Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - How Adam 22 & Lena the Plug DOMINATE OnlyFans

Episode Date: June 28, 2022

Akaash is still away on vacation, so Adam22 & Lena The Plug hung out to talk about OnlyFans, Mommy Milkers, PlugTalk, NoJumper, and more! Come hang out Filmed 6.13.22 Timecodes 00:00 - Start 01:01 - Greatest Talent scout in the history of the internet 07:57 - PlugTalk, Adam22 doesn't need PEDs 19:41 - Adam22's worst NoJumper interview ever - Boonk Gang 33:39 - How Lena the Plug deals with stalkers 48:56 - Signing Yeonmi Park to OnlyFans 51:44 - Adam22 family is the illuminati 01:11:44 - Dov to do OnlyFans + Feet guys 01:18:49 - Does Adam's mom have the heavies? 01:20:06 - Weird trends + Lena’s Mommy Milkers 01:28:18- How to make a successful OnlyFans? 01:33:58 - Sharp and the future + NoJumper roster

Are there any porn trends that you think are too weird? No, like, you know, talk about, like, my mommy milkers and stuff like that. Like, I'm kind of not into that. They're saying, during the, please use the term mommy milker. Yeah. But I don't think you would like that. Because your mom's Scottish. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just the accent would throw me off. Like, to hear my mom talking about her mommy milkers like that. Have you had your milk today? Your bones are strong, aren't they? Well, at least one of them. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Today we are joined by some folks I'm very fascinated with. I probably message you maybe like once a week

about a random YouTube clip that I'm watching. We're with Adam22 and LennonThePlug right now. I mean this sincerely, and I feel like I just send you random compliments, but I'll just be watching a video, and I'll be like, this guy's the

greatest talent scout in the history of the internet. I will send these random things to you. Right. And I'm wondering if you are aware of your genius zone. It occurs to me that I'm utilizing a lot of talent from time to time that probably other people wouldn't have necessarily noticed or thought of. But do you go, all right, I'm good at recognizing talent? Yeah, I've definitely started to feel like that over time a little bit. And not traditional talent?

No. Not like, oh, this guy's funny. He can sing. He can dance. Like this guy, wow, this person has an interesting story. Right. People are going to listen. But I don't think I can notice musical talent early on that well, like from like nothing.

But I definitely think I can notice like on air broadcasting. Okay. So you're better with the podcasting than with the music, even though it started with the music. Yeah. But I feel like I can't, I can't see an artist from nothing. I have to see some level of development before I could start to have faith in them. Whereas as a person, I feel like I could kind of like sign a homeless person to do a podcast. I believe this. Yeah. A hundred percent. Right. What is it? It's just charm,

charisma. I don't know. It's hard to put your finger on who's, who's interesting. I feel like who can, who can have a real debate or a conversation on camera without, I think one of the biggest things is, can you discuss and debate ideas without it getting too serious to the point

where your feelings get hurt? You know, and like some of those episodes of the bed, like seeing sharp spaz. Yeah, okay. Is incredibly entertaining too. Yeah, but that's still like a debate. You know, it's still a conversation.

Like the one biggest thing that I've noticed with people I've tried to put on camera is that when their feelings get hurt and they get sulky. Nobody likes it. Nobody likes that. If they're passionate about debate, then it's okay.

Even anger is fine. Yeah. You can be full of rage. Yeah yeah but as long as you can still come back to relative normalcy yeah i feel like that's big yeah yeah i mean it's just amazing the world that you've created and like appreciate that yeah i don't know i'm just very impressed by it i'm just really impressed by it and i find it's like the algorithm has decided that i'm impressed by it because i'm getting videos from fucking six months ago, just like random characters that now I'm like really fascinated. Like I found myself Googling what happened to T-Rell's arm, you know, and I know I'm like I'm such a boomer asking these questions. But this is how somebody gets into the content. Right.

It's one piece at a time. I probably watched like five clips before I even recognized that his arm was a little wonky, right? Right. And then I'm like, oh, how'd this happen? I'm like invested in this fucking story. Right.

It's just like... Motorcycle accident. Spoiler. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Save you on Google. Yeah.

I should have just went right to the source. Sometimes I go right to the source and I'm like, what happened the next one? But it's just interesting that you do this. And then I see what you guys have done with your relationship, and I refuse to watch any of the porn. I just want to let you guys know.

I won't watch it. But you can. You do watch the podcast. I watch the podcast. They're a podcast together. With violence. And you stop it before the fucking? I don't.

I watch the Instagram clips. I watch just the Instagram clips, but I don't watch it because if we're going to hang out, I don't want to imagine it. I don't want to see you guys. A lot of my friends say that and it's weird to me. I don't want to imagine it. I would gladly watch their girlfriend's fuck. But would you want to watch them fuck and then come into your office? Yes. I don't care. I would love to see a stroke.

Jules' stroke game is trash. I don't have a stroke. He's admitted it. I'm on the back. I couldn't believe it when you said you were getting married because I remember doing a podcast with you back in the day where you said that you desired to have sex once a week. Stayed the same. Your boy's consistent out here. Yeah, I mean, how many times

are you fucking off camera? Sometimes twice a week, sometimes not at all that week if you have a lot of work to do, you know? It kind of depends. Sometimes we'll wake up in the morning, I'll fuck her in the bathroom before I get in the shower. Then we'll go on set, fuck two more times, and then we'll wake up in the morning I'll fuck her in the bathroom before I get in the shower

Then we'll go on set, fuck two more times And then we'll go home And be so turned on from the day's activities Then we fucking get it But this is not like every week No, that's very unlike you Sometimes They're doing once a week off camera

You fuck like a porn star, bro Yeah, I fuck like y'all I might fuck more than y'all And I do it for the love of the game, though. You don't have a kid. That's a good ass point. Once you have a kid, fucking... Morning sex? Bye-bye. Really? I'm not a big morning sex guy. I feel like that's when you're

at your worst. I used to love it. You're not a big sex guy. I'm asexual. Yeah, yeah. Wait, what do you mean? Why morning sex? Well, just because the kid ends up in your bed every morning. They're like, wake up before you. You want to go go back to sleep you bring them to the bed you know breastfeeding it's not really sexy yeah you guys did the pregnancy porn too that was wild that's like the one category i don't go to i've never watched it either but she she was so determined she wanted

to keep working up until she was like six months in we did one scene where she was so huge and just full of babies yeah that she was just like you fuck emily willis i can barely breathe you took maternity leave basically yeah but like okay so when i was pregnant it was peak pandemic and that was the best time for only fans like the numbers were just through the roof everyone had their stimulus check you set the record right i mean those were my record months for sure like i was I was not going to stop working. Yeah. So it was just, I'm pregnant, but we're killing it with money.

And then there are people who are probably extra freaky, want to see the pregnancy stuff. Can you feel the baby kick? Is that weird? Like, you got your hand on it and it's like giving you a pound? You asked me what I wouldn't want to talk about. And I had nothing to say, but this is it. What am I saying? You're on my line. I'm just saying. You can't ask that You can ask Adam Did you feel it?

Soccer kick to the head I don't remember The truth is I really don't remember Do you guys think you've completely revolutionized how people see porn? No. In terms of stigma? I think you have. I think the OnlyFans revolution as a whole has.

And I think she was very, very early on to be like a normal person who just started in the OnlyFans. And like the level of attention that she got when she first started was insane because it just really felt like you were a normal person who chose to do OnlyFans or Private Snap at the time. And there was definitely like something about that. Whereas I feel like the public is maybe a little disillusioned to that now where they realize like, oh, they can make a ton of money. That's why they're doing it. Yeah, I think maybe it's like the number hits and then American greed, like it's like baked into our DNA. We start saying, oh, that's a reasonable way to make money. Yeah.

Like we're totally fine. Like with a pharmaceutical company, we're totally fine with that. I'm sure you guys have gone through these like moral gymnastics where you're like, oh, there are things that should be scrutinized, but they're not. And this thing is very heavily scrutinized. Well, a lot of OnlyFans girls get to like, you know, 20K a month or something. And they're like, oh, I've made it i'm done we're we're the greedy ones who are actually like no how are we going to take this to the next level and really make a real fucking business out of it and then that's like the mentality that led us to like well maybe we could do a podcast that's also a porno

and this is plug talk only plug talk.com okay so this is i mean mean, plug everything. Because I do it. No, it's fine. Okay. It's fine. Throw that in there. Plug talk. Plug talk. Interview the porn star. Have sex with her afterwards. Yes.

Keep the mics on. No, we switch to the boom mic, which is so annoying because it would be nice to just fuck, but you've got to deal with the headset thing. Now, do you need, like, I don't know how your system works, but, like, do you need to, like, you need some performance-enhancing drugs? Everybody asks me that. Come on, man. Like, don't lie to us. I'm never done. You know.

No, I wouldn't. Okay, I would never want him to do them. He doesn't do them. Wait, why not? Why not? Because all those guys, when you see, like, we've had other guys come on set to fuck girls, and they're like, BRB. I'm going to do another Viagra. Like, in the middle of fucking.

They rely on it the same way people rely on Adderall for studying. They feel like they can't do it without the drug anymore, you know? You had a scene the other day where it was basically this guy and he's supposed to fuck this girl, right? And he can't do it. I'm kind of like outside smoking and

chilling and thinking that they're fucking and then I walk in and he's sitting in the room in the corner of the kitchen by himself with his phone propped up, watching porn off multiple Viagras, beating his fucking limp ass dick. Trying to get hard. And he can't get hard to fuck this girl who is hot. It was two girls and they were both really hot. Yeah. You guys will have guys with you guys, too. both really hot yeah wait you guys will have guys with you guys too so sometimes we do episodes where we'll interview the girl and then for whatever reason we'll have another guy banger instead of

me or her just to kind of spice it up we have this girl emma magnolia who lost her anal virginity on on our show and i don't know like we didn't even discuss that i'm gonna prove that you can't prove that is a good point but she had been on you don't have to prove it you're just saying but she had been on no jumper saying that have to prove it. You're just saying. But she had been on. No jumper is saying that she hadn't done. I need authenticity, okay? So I like dared her. If you tell me T-Rell's arm really works and that this was a ruse the entire time, I'd be fucking furious at you. That would be brilliant if we started inventing storylines.

That is, a disability is not where my mind would immediately go. I saw him cashing checks just now. Okay, so what happens? What? The situation. Oh, so, uh,

yeah, he's wait, what does he end up fucking him or no? Oh yeah. He finishes, but it's like, it's a whole thing and it gets awkward on set. Yeah.

And it's kind of weird for me because I'm the guy who's just like managing this, this shoot. And I'm thinking in my head, like I could get hard in five fucking minutes and do your job for you right now and some of these guys some of the guys do great like that guy who fucked the girl in the ass he did great some of the guys it's just an absolute disaster but then you can't act judgmental or like super concerned because if you were to say like bro you're being a fucking jabroni this is insane even more it's gonna be so much worse and the girls

some of the girls are good with it. Some of the girls, like we had one girl who we overheard her in the other room going like, are we not hot enough? Which is like, that's what you really don't say. Because then the wheels start spinning in his head. Like, oh my God, I'm making them feel bad. There's more pressure on, yeah. Yeah.

So like, but the girls who are really cool, they'll be really nice about it. And they'll start acting intimate with you. And that's the weird thing is, like, a porn star girl could have a whole fucking husband at home, and maybe, like, they're thinking that the girl's just fucking on camera. But in reality, when she's there, it's part of her fucking job to be treating you right and jerking you off. And I even—I interviewed one girl— When you're not filming. Just to get you in the zone because sometimes the guys can't get there themselves i interviewed one girl who is mayor who was married at the time and she told me that the guy couldn't get hard right sucking dick off camera she no she ate his ass for a half hour

she ate his ass for a half hour while texting her fucking husband not yeah there's a limit that's my life that's my life that's crazy like i understand if it's your job you're doing it on camera but if you're like jerking off the guy what fluffers that's what fluff yeah but if you don't help him finish then nobody on set gets paid that day including you so it's like you want him to finish and you have to help him get there now would you guys ever have a dude be in your scenes no no, no. We got a one way thing going here. One way thing. I mean, we're monogamous in our private lives and then we do shit on camera with other girls. Right. I got too much money to have her getting dunked by some fucking linebacker.

I can't do it. Should I use that same logic on you? I've got too much money to let my man do this. If you want to cancel plug time. Now, is there any jealousy ever? It's been years, I think. Because in the beginning... Seven years into porn. Do you get jealous when I fuck other girls up? Is that like a situation?

So I think our first scene. So I can deep throat, but I can't deep throat like Carmen Karma. I can't deep throat like Adriana Cechik. Can you bring it up? Yeah. You know, like. She made like a different sound. Bring that up just so we can see.

Not her. No, he made like a different sound when they were deep throating him. And I was like, oh. What'd you say? It was kind of like a. Yes, he made like a different sound when they were deep-throating him, and I was like, oh. What did you say? It was kind of like a... Yes, it's that. And I was like, he didn't make that sound when I do that because I can't deep-throw as well as them. Their mouths are just way bigger than mine.

There's like a genetic jaw unhinging thing that I've experienced a couple times, and it's not like something that I'm like looking at you. On our wedding day, I will not be staring at your eyes thinking only her jaw unhinged. But, you know, the you know, some of the girls that we deal with are like legitimate fucking athletes. I mean, that's why they're superheroes. Yeah. But like I think in the beginning, I just deal with that sound. I was like, OK, he likes that. And that's OK.

I can't do it. And that's OK. You know, I just have to like mentally talk myself through that. And it doesn't make me jealous anymore. Now I'm like, good job job deep throat him he loves it wait so you can you have that much control of your emotions like because like he doesn't remember half the girls we fuck if you put if you put them in the lineup he'd be like i can't remember you know it's like it so it doesn't matter to me because i know it's not that serious she's seeing how heartless i am

in general like emotionally with the girls i'm not one of those guys who's all like know, flirting with them after and I'm getting the number and I'm texting them. Like, that's just not how I am. Like, I fuck them and I fucking go in the back and I smoke a blunt and I fucking forget about it because it's just kind of work, you know? And we do have a lot of fun. Like, obviously, I'm not gay. I'm fucking these girls. It's fun, you know? But I'm gay.

No one thought you were gay, bro. If you're not out of your job, you're gay. but i'm just saying like you know i do really like it but it's not my wife seven times a week i'm not trying to do it the next day you know it's like we do it it's fun it comes out on camera i feel like i'm gonna beat off to the shit when i'm 50 for sure yeah yeah yeah you got a nice little like uh playbook not now but later on maybe okay what about a trans chick i don't know i don't think so to me if you ever had a dick that's kind of a deal breaker yeah that's your and i realize that in this day and age that makes me a transphobic monster no i don't think it does yeah i feel like if you had a dick before that that's kind of going to be a deal breaker the hole needs to come from god is a way i like to put it yeah yeah okay right you know yeah i could see like there is a part of me that's like oh we're doing porn we

should be pushing the limits yeah that's how i think of everything else like we should fuck a 400 pound woman together. Oh, that sounds sick. But then there's another part of me that wants to enjoy my Tuesday afternoon, and I'm just not, why take it there? And knowing that the audience

does not seem like they would want, I think that if- I would pay to see you fuck Lizzo. If we had to- I wouldn't see you fuck Lizzo. Lizzo, yes. But if we were to do, if we did a plug talk episode

where there's two gay dudes fucking afterwards, I feel like a lot of our fans would unsubscribe. Yeah, I was going to say, we would lose a lot of subscribers. So it wouldn't really be worth it to take the risk, I feel like. But what if they were like, we want to see you with this trans porn star? Of all the comments I've read, I haven't seen anything like that. Really? Yeah. Squares?

I don't know. I just feel like we're cultivating a heterosexual audience. Maybe we could have somebody else do it. Okay. But you would have maybe reservations you wouldn't really have. She's just scared to say it. I am scared to say it. I'm like, don't JK Rowling

me over here. Don't you fuck. She's a very nice person. It's a real liability. You are very nice. it's a real liability you are very nice we're really opposite yeah well i don't think you're i don't know i haven't experienced like the dickhead side of you but i always see you as kind of a nice guy i just tell people how i feel straight up and i mean yeah why have you gotten in trouble for this being a dick i mean yeah for sure but i mean you know over i mean that's the weird thing with having so many people on my platform is I can't afford to pick every fight.

You know, like there's a lot of shit that I just. OK, like you're an anti-vaxxer and you're fucking throwing these crazy memes of like all this stuff in the chat. I just have to like, you know, at a certain point, like it took me a long time to get there. I can't argue with 10 people in the group chat every day. You know, it's like certain stuff. I just have to kind of let it go at a certain point. I've learned that, yeah.

Now, are you ever concerned for your life? No. But I mean, yeah, sometimes. Yeah. A video popped up yesterday of Lil Housephone, I think that's his name, pulling up on you and pretending to point a gun at you when you didn't know. Yeah. This is on your No Jumper page that you posted.

But this is old, dude. He used to love to do that to me. He would just, like, run up on me and be like, give me all your money and, like, pretend to shove a fucking gun in my stomach in public. That's not a funny joke. But now it's real. Like, that could happen. He claims he won't do that again because he said, oh, that could really happen. Maybe I shouldn't be doing this.

I'd be more worried to be him because what if your security sees a guy run up on you? Yeah. So what I'm concerned about is you're making all this money doing plug talk. At a certain point in time, do you remove yourself from the elements of danger in your life? You have a kid now. I feel like I'm taking the appropriate measures to avoid said danger, but I can't, you know, you got to dance in the water and try to not get wet. Okay. You can't just avoid the water altogether. That was some sharp shit. But you don't think you'll ever just pull out and be like, yo, this is my organization.

These guys have their podcasts. They're all brilliant. They all have their talented shows. But you're not as involved in each. I mean, I'm already not on any of the shows besides the Tuesday at 6 p.m. one, the No Jumper show. So it's kind of like I already feel like I have a lot of separation. Like sometimes I go on their shows and shit. Like, you know, but I mean, to me, if I wasn't doing this on camera all the time, I don't know what the fuck I would be doing.

Because this is just, like, the most obvious thing. That even if there was no money on the line or if there was no kind of connection to success with it, I mean, just talking on camera seems like pretty much the best thing you could be doing. Yeah, that's awesome. I can't find anything that I would be more interested in. And I actually feel like I gravitated towards doing this because of the fact that like, like I have friends who run clothing brands and I have a lot of respect for them. Really, when I think about their career, they're kind of just like putting a logo on different clothes over and over and over. And like, there's a lot of creativity within that. But I also feel like I would get really fucking bored

over time where I was like, talking to a different person every day is just a different challenge, you know? I rode BMX for like 20 years and at a certain point

it just became like, I can't just keep going to the skate park. I can't just keep driving around looking for a rail. Like, this is just not keeping my mind satiated,

you know? What was the worst interview you ever did? I mean, the one that comes to mind is when I interviewed Boonk. And this is when we used to do everything live. Yeah. And he shows up and he's like blackout drunk

or on pills or something. No one tells people who Boonk Gang is. Boonk was this dude who in maybe 2016, 17, et cetera, he became viral because he would go on Instagram and he would, he would like go to a- Steal something. Yeah, he would grab a piece of fruit or, you would like go to steal something. He would grab a piece of fruit or, you know, a hamburger from your fucking restaurant and then run away and

scream boom gang into the camera. And this is like early Instagram. Everybody's incredibly impressed by this. And I, I, he, he was getting fucked up on drugs at this, at this time. And we had an agreement for him to do an interview, but we're live and he shows up and I have almost no staff. There's like one guy smoking a blunt in the parking lot right and like i don't i can't get him to not come on camera i keep telling him no like i'm not doing this like get the fuck out of here i'm not interviewing you like this and he's like come on come we're gonna do it he's like he's done yeah yeah and then he sits down he does this interview it's so fucking stupid it's just him repeating himself over and over and then when he gets up to leave he fucking collapses and smashes his forehead on the wall and like i'm in hawaii the next like week

and some fucking waiter is like i loved when that guy passed out in his head that was a big moment of me realizing like the dumbest thing that ever happens on my show is gonna be way more viral than a great conversation but like that kind of thing like i remember there's a new york rapper sosa geek that i interviewed okay i watched some other interviews with him and he seemed super full of life and like just so full of energy and then i interviewed him and he comes in with a big ass bottle of lean and it was just like you know just nothing to offer like i was just like why couldn't you have given me the molly version of yourself yeah you're not against drugs yeah i mean if you're gonna take an upper and come on the podcast that's all right by me i mean you know is there a drug that makes for a better interview yeah coke molly all that shit you're gonna be like a fucking lunatic on camera that would be great

yeah oh wow and i've had some spaced out uh like mushroom Weed can sometimes get you there, you know, not Andrew so much, but. Oh my God. I'm out. I can't do it. Like you don't even feel high right now. No. You just smoked before. But the downers on camera, like I don't want the people I interview to take fucking ecstasy

and shit because obviously it's very dangerous. But. If they had to. If they did, if you're going to do something, I would rather you go on that side of the spectrum. Whereas I've had people come on on xanax and they're talking like five words per minute you've never had anyone like too drunk right just like no one comes on i feel like drinking would be the most obvious thing to do when you go on a podcast but it's because you don't have alcohol airspace yeah yeah i never see people really drink i guess uh the crit mac

uh guy and that was fascinating to see that bubble up. Well, he's different levels of like drunkenness, stoneness, and just on the, like the schizophrenic spectrum. Oh, is he?

Yeah. He's, he's talked about being schizophrenic before. So like he could kind of just come in a completely different version of him on any given day, which is really fun. Yeah. The one that stands out to me of people getting too drunk was we we met these girls on the street at the store yeah we started talking to them

they're like big fans and they want to fuck and this is back in the day before they just came up in proposition she wasn't there tim so i get on facetime i'm like yo these girls are cute and they want to fuck and uh she comes through we're on the podcast and as soon as they said they wanted to hang out like that i fucking sent one of the employees to the store to buy a bottle of Hennessy. Within maybe 10 minutes of the podcast starting, one of them was in the bathroom puking her fucking face off. And then the other ones tried to abandon her and leave her with us. And I was like, I don't want her here anymore. You have to take her away.

And so that was a real learning experience about alcohol on the podcast. And did you guys kill those girls? What? They went on the podcast back. Oh, you had them back on? A few times. Oh, okay. Like a meme in No Jumper with Blackout Girls.

The Blackout Girls. I got a cease and desist from fucking Tristan Thompson because they're talking about banging him while he was married to what's-her-name Kardashian. Wait, he's cheated? Yeah. Whoa. Really? He sent cease and desist?'s-her-name Kardashian, yeah. Wait, he's cheated? Yeah. Whoa. Really? He sent cease and desist? His legal team got in touch, yeah.

Fucking A. Who's the biggest cornball that you've experienced in Hollywood? I don't want you to actually get in trouble. You don't have to say anything. But I'm just like, I imagine you're interacting with these people, and you have a certain, like, you have a level of, like, connection, but you don't rely on them for anything, so you can actually be real with them. Right. And then you get to see if someone's corny or not. Hmm.

Has anybody, like, really let you down? Anybody in the industry? Like, is there anybody that you were really excited to meet, and you're like, oh, fuck, this is all fabrication? For sure. Your whole personality. I'm combing the inside of my brain trying to think of somebody I could name that I wouldn't get into a situation.

Yeah, it sounds like a leading question. I don't want you to, but I am curious because there are very few people that are in Los Angeles that are not directly plugged into Hollywood. But I interview almost nobody who's tapped into that world. Like I don't even, I don't know. Some musicians, I think. Sometimes, but most of the musicians I interview are really like not on that type of time. Like a lot of our biggest,

like my biggest interview this year, I got 3 million views from interviewing this dude, 10 90 Jake, who's a white blood from Massachusetts. That's another thing I text you about. I'm like, I'm just watching white gang members. I was just,

I did 10 90 Jake, the milk gang guy, Pino. Right. I'm seeing them all beef with each other and I'm watching their shit. It's unbelievable. 10 90 Jake, just for the people at home and shout out to Pino, because I think he's a good guy. But he basically was able to go into the legal system and spend money to obtain a copy of a 13 year old interrogation that this dude Pino had done where he got arrested for somebody was stealing something. And he's basically snitching in the video. He's like telling on some girl that was involved with it or whatever.

And 1098 got a 13-year-old video of him in the back of a police station doing this interview and made a YouTube video about it, which that really tells you a lot about what's going on in this YouTube world. Because, I mean, if you were to get pulled into a police station and they were talking to you about something tomorrow, are you even thinking that there's a chance that that video becomes public? Adam, I'm snitching. Right. Let me just tell you right now.

But like 13 years later, like that just really blew my mind. The level of this bullshit has really changed. Yeah. I mean, there's money there. Yeah. When there's money there, people are going to keep making the videos. Yeah. All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because some of y'all need to wake the fuck up, okay?

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That's thefreezepipe.com. Code is flagrant for 15 off shop today your throat and lungs will thank you let's get back to the show what i'm curious about is like do you have to uphold the code like you're doing these pots with all these gang members they have their own code do they look at you like a square and they go okay you don't have to operate like us or because you're operating with them you have to uphold it i think there's a lot that's expected of me in terms of just not you know obviously if i were to talk to a cop about something that was said on my podcast like but but can you hang with bloods oh yeah so even the dudes that you you roll with that are

crip or cool they don't expect any of that kind of shit from me. Okay. No. And even most of the crips in LA don't have problems with the blood specifically. It's like set per set? Yeah. It's like they'll have a problem with this neighborhood and this neighborhood and a bunch of crip neighborhoods, et cetera. It's not like crips versus bloods at all, yeah. But, yeah, no. I mean, okay, this is one thing. this is one thing a lot of people think that i'm having conversations off camera with rappers about street shit that they would never say on camera which i i also consider that kind of part

of the code that when i i know that fredo bang and nba young boy for instance like people around them have killed each other basically they're like both parts of opposing gangs there's all kinds of murders tied to the beef between them and stuff. I'm very close with Fredo Bang, had a lot of long, in-depth conversations with him. Never has it crossed my mind to be like, okay, who killed young boy's cousin? Who killed this guy? Like, I don't ask them that kind of shit. And I don't think they would tell me if I asked, but I don't ask that kind of stuff because it's like, why do I need to know that?

You know, and yeah, me as a rap fan, I to know but i don't i don't cross that line so i don't feel like even if there's a cop in my face trying to get me to tell him everything i know incriminating about rappers i can't really think of almost anything that i know that isn't already out there that like you know it's like just i don't really wade into like wanting to know that kind of stuff that's crazy has an interview ever been used in a deposition not mine i heard about a nick interview ever been used in a deposition? Not mine. I heard about a Nick Cannon interview being used against A.R. Abb, I believe, who's doing like 50 years right now. Yeah, the Philly.

Yeah. We interviewed him once on Idiots. Yeah. Oh, wow. I think we had A.R. Abb on Idiots once. A.R. Abb, I don't want to call him an idiot, but if you go watch the videos of him snitching on himself, it is mind-blowing.

Hopefully, there's never another person who snitches on themselves like that in interviews. Because he's really, in some of these old interviews, being like, I robbed so-and-so for these bricks. And I fucking ordered this and that. And it's like, just search Arab snitching. It's like some of the most mind-blowing shit you'll ever see on YouTube. Okay. Now that they're using the lyrics to get these dudes in court crazy how much does the music change one and two will we ever see real street rappers again yeah i mean i think they'll always find a

way around it because a lot a lot of it's like really coded language like when i look at some of the instagram stories or whatever from these dudes in the bronx who are like the craziest drill rappers ever yeah to a normal person you would not read this and think that this was like basically them talking about murder yeah but they use like a lot of really weird slang and shit that it would be very and and that's not just for the courts that's because you know if you were to write like i so-and-so killed your brother on your Instagram story, it would probably get taken down, right? Right. But if you write something more coded and use slang and shit like that.

So a lot of times I'm reading this shit and I have to read over it like two or three times before I'm like, ah, that's what they're getting at. Or even like we've put out videos where there was K-Flock who's currently facing a murder or whatever. Like he had a vlog that we did, and on one of it, one of the dudes around him is saying, hey, we smoking rah-rah. And then I find out that rah-rah is this, like, 16-year-old kid in the Bronx who got murdered. Oh, I thought it was weed when you said that. Well, yeah, but they call their—

they say that they put their dead ops in a blunt, right? So at this time, when I heard that, I didn't know that they were talking about it. And, I mean, you know, I don't really want to like celebrate that. I probably would have bleeped his name if I had been able to because that shit is just like, well. But you have no idea. I didn't know at that time. You're just like agreeing with him on video.

You're like, yeah, we are. And you're like, oh, no. I don't want to be a part of that. Do you cut things out if you think it'll get the person in trouble? Because I know like Vlad used to take slack for that. Sometimes if it seems over the line. Or we'll cut it out if it's like, I just don't want my platform to be used for actually aggravating gang beats. If a rapper wants to sit there and say, I have a problem with this rapper and here's why. That's one thing.

If a rapper is going to sit there and say, fuck blank. And there's all these words for different gangs that like, you know, you're not really even supposed to say or whatever. I mean, the obvious ones is that Crips call Bloods slobs and Bloods call Crips crabs. Right. And so like, you know, I would never let somebody say that kind of shit on the podcast. Because it's just instigating. It's like almost guaranteed to cause bloodshed, you know? So it's like there's stuff like that.

If you want to say, I don't like this rapper or I don't like this guy over here, whatever, that's one thing. But when they're throwing this like whole, cause that's like the kind of thing that's just going to aggravate so much tension. People start pulling up to the studio. You guys are potentially in danger. Yeah. How are you not more worried about it? I'm more.

I don't think they're going to take it out. They're not going to take it out. Like, but I don't want to be a part of it either way. You say that, but you never know. Yeah. I mean,

obviously, but like, I could see somebody doing something dumb for clout. Like, you see people doing dumb shit for clout all the time. You know? And it's like, I don't understand how you're just so calm about everything. I want to know what your life, like, ethos is. He's a hard man to argue with.

No, besides argue, just, like, in life. Like, how do you not—do you get anxious? Are you— Yeah, I mean, every time he leaves for work, like, little scenarios go through my head and when he comes home i'm like okay everything's fine everything's fine everything's okay and especially after the like you know it was a fake gun the incident on melrose but like that was definitely scary yeah um but you know we live even with like from even with like like like i'm sure there are people like get obsessed with you like with the porn stuff like do you worry about that like people creeping trying to like i worry a lot

about like the people who pretend to be me online and then will convince someone that they're in love with me and they have a relationship with me and uh you know they'll use like photos of me and my daughter and act like we're like some poor family we need money and then you know they'll discover me online and they'll think like but like I was in love with you this whole time. And so they'll send me crazy amounts of emails and I just have them all in a harassment folder. Like I just collect them so that if I ever needed to use them

for a police report, I could. But that's the kind of shit that does scare me. I mean, I haven't been like- She doesn't have like the real stalking. Yeah, I haven't had any like weird following situation going on like that. But it's always like some guy in the middle of America who, like, was sending me money

and thinks that, like, we have a real relationship. Whoa. And he's not actually sending you money. No, he's sending it to probably a dude. To some fucking stranger,

to a dude who's talking on him. Yeah, exactly. There was a guy that pulled up to my apartment building that happened to him, and he's come multiple times. Wow.

Came multiple times, somehow got into the apartment, and he was, like, knocking on the fucking apartment door, and he's like knocking on the fucking apartment door and he's like, no, we're engaged. Like I gave her $20,000

so she could do this. He came with luggage and everything. Wait, is this someone else that lived in the building? And the person that opened the door,

like I don't know who the fuck you're talking about. Like I'm a guy. This girl doesn't live here at all. That's crazy. So this shit is real. This happens a lot.

It happens so much. I mean, every day on Instagram, Instagram will suggest to me to follow a page that is using fake photos of me. Like it's real. It happens a lot. It happens so much. I mean, every day on Instagram, Instagram will suggest to me to follow a page that is using fake photos of me. Like, it's that frequent. You would like these pictures. I just block all the accounts. And I had a girlfriend before her who was, like, kind of, like, a much less known influencer.

She had, like, 10,000 followers. And she had a stalker that was so bad. He was showing up at her house, showing up at her work. Like, the craziest shit. And she was very much, like, not that was so bad. He was showing up at her house, showing up at her work, like the craziest shit. And she was very much like not that well-known. And this guy just invented this scenario in his head. And this is so early in her career is like, you know, doing shit on camera. And it was, it was nuts. And it was nuts for me because I lived on the other side of the country. She lived over here and I couldn't do anything about it. You know? Yeah. Fuck you're powerless.

Yeah. It's a weird feeling. I mean, you could have moved there to L.A. Or the Middle East. Yeah. Even better. He'll never find her there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, are you popular in Armenia?

I feel like Armenians have a weird relationship with my job. It's the same thing with Kim Kardashian. I think most Armenians are, like, proud that she's put Armenia on the map as a real place that you can barely find when you look for it yeah but then she got her start like with a sex tape so and they're very conservative i actually got an email recently that scared me it was like i'm surprised the armenians haven't given you showed you your lesson yet because armenians can get very aggressive and like there's armenian gangs and stuff that she told me veryy. Very early on she said hey, I know you joke around a lot.

I know you make fun of different groups etc. Don't disrespect the Armenians. They don't play. Mere kunimboza. You just gotta say it. Something about fucking your mom. Oh. I'm not gonna say it.

I will not say that. It's very Italian mafia type. It's over-encoded language. Very cryptically. Yeah, I wonder. Like, I don't know. You guys have just such an interesting relationship. You're doing all these things, operating

these spaces that are like supposedly taboo, yet with so much normalcy in the way that you treat each other and the way you treat everyone around you so it's hard to not pay attention it starts not look like i'm so curious like your kid like are are you gonna have what standards are you gonna have for your kid what rules are you gonna have that they can't break like what would they be okay would you be okay if your kid was in a gang would you be yes really i would encourage it like no i mean that like not okay not okay to be in a gang not okay and even porn or even doing only fans like i'm sure these are things that you're going like

okay i'm gonna get asked this they're they might ask luckily we got about 18 years before we got across that bridge but yeah i mean i i think if she wanted to do you know her thing uh i would guide her in like a way that i would watch out for i would hope she would do something different just because of the stigma and because of the fact that like oh every girl i know who does only fans of porn has body dysmorphia, has fucking anorexia, has some sort of thing where it's like you're really focusing on your physical appearance so much to the point where I feel like it's kind of bad for your mental health. And I won't put that on every single girl, but almost all the girls that I talk to. And really, it's like just a common thing in LA. But that is

something that I fear for about her, even with just like, you know, someone approached me about like child modeling when she was six months old. And I was kind of like, do I want her to audition her face like already? Sorry, you didn't get it. Why? You're not pretty enough. Exactly. And so it's like I don't want to necessarily like teach her those values.

I want her to know that she's creative and intelligent. But if she was like, mom, this is exactly what I want to do. This is why I want to do it. And this is my plan. And I'm going to be safe or whatever. Like how, who am I to tell her like, no, you cannot do that. You know, when I did that. Imagine having that conversation of like, listen, no, you have to go to law school and

we're going to spend $80,000 a year for you to do to maybe get a job as a clerk and then you're going to make like $80,000 a year and you're going to have you know all this student debt I guess we're going to pay that so she won't have student debt

but like I do imagine that kind of being a hard conversation at a certain point but I mean I don't know like I would just hope that

they would go down a lot of different roads and try different things before they decide to make that decision because we see a lot of chicks who get into only fans at 18 fucking day up and that to me i mean but then you talk to a lot of girls like and and you realize that they were planning on it since they were 15 or like they always felt like they knew that they wanted to

do this which even that is kind of like wow what a fucking society we live in i'm so glad i didn't get into it till I was 25. Like, I went to college. I graduated. I almost went to grad school. I just, like, lived a very different life than the life I have now. And it was a very, you know, direct decision that I was going to do this thing. It wasn't like, oh, that looks like it could be fun and glamorous, you know?

It wasn't, like, dangled in front of me in that way of, like, oh, look at my car I got from OnlyFans. She was a blue-ha hair lesbian for a long time. I did not have blue hair. I remember this. No, in college. But I was like a hairy chick that didn't shave. That's a lesbian. I did have a girlfriend.

I was a lesbian. Yeah. Wait, really? Yeah. I had a girlfriend for like all of college. All four years of college. And then he turned you back to guys? No. A bunch of other guys turned her back to guys. i got a whole phase and then i got no but she said that

the other day that she is so thankful that i didn't introduce her to the idea of only fans because if i had introduced her to it then she would have always had to wonder like like did i really choose this yeah you know for myself because i do see it with some people where it's like maybe the guy's in porn and then it gets the girl in of course and probably the porn thing is like better than what she was doing before she was just working for an hourly wage somewhere yeah but you know i would always make me wonder like did i do this for myself like could i be proud of this morphia thing that you brought up is interesting because like you see women's bodies changing and like the expectation of how they should look changing.

Right? Like, even, like, lips or cheeks or all these, like, fillers and these types of things. And it's, like, a girl who doesn't have it seems like she's missing something for the category. And I'm just wondering if, like, the average girl going into porn already sets up what she's going to get done. Like, Oh, for sure. For sure. Well, I think first of all, a lot of the girls who get into porn or have gotten into porn previously started as strippers. And that's like a number one place where you're like, Oh, well she's getting more tips because she has boobs. So I'm going to save up my money and I'm going to get that. But we were just talking about how here

the plastic surgery and the filler thing is way different than in LA. LA, every girl has filler in her lips. And if you don't have it, I feel like I kind of stand out as someone who doesn't have really massive lips. And it's weird. So yeah, there is a standard. But you say in New York, it's not as prevalent, right?

No, you don't see it that much. Way less fake tits and shit. It's very interesting. And even the way that girls dress Way less fake tits and shit. It's very interesting. And even the way that girls dress here, like, everything's super baggy. Like, it's almost like they're trying to— And it's cold, usually, so it's like— Even in the summer. Baggy in the summer? But we know some porn girls who clearly, you know, they treat their fucking face like a guy who's really into cars treats his car.

It's like they want to do every single thing that they possibly can to make their face prettier. You know, she's done barely anything to her body or face. You know, I have my schedule. I'm like, oh, I'm going to get wrinkles in three months. I got to get that because it shows. It's like everything to make yourself look more youthful because it's your career. I mean, that's why, like, having a kid and then coming back was really hard. Were you worried a little bit?

I feel like I'm going to be more worried on baby number two. I'm like, I put my body through the wringer, and she still looks pretty good. But what happens the second time around? You know? Like, how many times can you get inflated and then deflate? Yeah, because I've been amazed at the level. I mean, and she eats super fucking healthy. I worked on my whole pregnancy.

I work out now. She got, and she eats super fucking healthy and she exercises like crazy. I worked on a whole pregnancy and workouts now. She got her waist small again so fucking fast. But, you know, a lot of girls are just, they're just literally tuning themselves up every couple months. And you see how they get fucking pathological about it at a certain point. And sometimes they look great. But you're also just like, you could have not done all that stuff and you still would have looked great. I'll have like a fucking 20-year-old girl on the Patreon or whatever talking about her body and how – and she looks fucking great. None of us would even think that she should get a surgery and she's like, no, I'm going to get a BBL. And it's like, you know, you could do that at 25.

You could do that at 28, 30. You're 20. Are you able to suggest against it? Like is that stepping out of line? But it doesn't work for someone who has the mindset already like their whole life and waiting to get a nose job or whatever it is like you're really not going to be able to convince them and i do agree that like if it if it makes that person happier then you know they should be able to do whatever they want but it is a slippery slope when you come in and you

feel like you have to make yourself stand out and go crazier crazier that's where it gets tricky it's like make yourself happier. But if the happiness is a goalpost that continues to move, then you're going to be carved up and fucked. And the most beautiful girls in the industry are the most fucked. They're like, I need a forehead shortening surgery, like things I've never even heard of before. And I'm like, are you kidding me?

I could use that. Unbelievable. They'll make them surgeries that just don't exist. I'm like, how could you possibly think that about yourself? But I'm, I'm not like any better. You know, I'll look in the mirror and be like, ah, if only, you know what I mean? And so that's what, that's my fear about someone getting into the industry is like the things that I have to deal with and other girls have to deal with. Don't you guys manage some of the girls now? We have a couple girls, yeah. And so are you like coaching them like, hey, you guys don't need to do this to –

No, because the first girl that we signed is a great example of that. This is this girl, Sky Breeze. She's from Pennsylvania. But she's like perfect. Right. Her body is amazing. And, you know, she's definitely like having conversations with other girls. And I don't know if she's really mentioned it to you, but, you know,

we have to kind of like remind her, you look great. Maybe think about getting surgery years and years later. Because she's a beautiful girl. You look at her in person and you're like, no one's dimensions and proportions are actually supposed to really look like this in person. I could see a model in a magazine being a little more modified to look that way, but she really looks like that in person. And she's so tall while we get her up um have you ever thought about just gaming like i feel like if you're a hot chick and you play video games you just are rich they have that already i mean how many do it a lot of the girls in the industry are really

getting into twitch but it takes so much time. Think about parenting. Her as a mom, I think that would be probably one of the main things I would suggest you do is just stream on Twitch or YouTube regularly. But, I mean, being a mom, geez. It's not efficient, you know? Yeah. So that's why I hated camming and things like that. Making the videos and just selling them over and over again makes a lot more sense. Yeah, I guess. And Twitch makes it hard. They can't be in bikinis and stuff like that the making the videos and just selling them over and over again makes a lot more sense yeah i guess and twitch like makes it hard like they can't be in bikinis and stuff like that there are some girls that are really toeing the line and they're doing really well

are you back on instagram yet it depends on what day you ask me right now i have eight instagram it's not my original instagram but yeah it's like every day i'll wake up and it's gone why did uh ask fucking instagram i don't know she had none of the plug got it up to like three and a half original instagram but yeah it's like every day i'll wake up and it's either gone why did uh ask fucking instagram i don't know she had none of the plug got it up to like three and a half million that disappeared one day she's gone through hell trying to get it back not sure where that stands but she has at free land of the plug which is up some of the time but it's like it's it's just instagram makes it so unbelievably easy for people to game the algorithm and target girls that they don't like. So, so many girls in the porn industry, even, and I know there's a lot of girls who get deleted just because they're fucking dumb and they upload all kinds of crazy shit.

Nudity, they link directly to their OnlyFans, etc. But there's a fuckload of girls, including the biggest girls in the game, who just don't really post anything particularly explicit, but dudes have a grudge against them or whatever, and they're able to target them and get them taken down. And Instagram just has no answer to this. They refuse to acknowledge it. They refuse to do nearly anything about the problem. And the problem is that there's this whole shadowy underworld of dudes charging money to get girls their Instagrams back, either because they know a Facebook employee or whatever. And I mean, a lot of this has been well documented. I had a girl named Kitty on my podcast who told me all about how she got her Instagram deleted. So she goes

on LinkedIn. She starts finding a bunch of different Facebook employees and then systematically banging them until one of them got her Instagram back. And. Let's go. This became a huge story. Taylor Lorenz tweeted about it. All of a sudden, everybody's fucking covering it. And then guess what happened? She gets her Instagram deleted. Dumb ass. I knew that was going to happen from the second the story went out.

Yeah. I kind of almost felt bad putting it out since I was pretty sure that that was going to happen. She got an OnlyFans spike from the story. At least she got a bunch of attention from it. But it's like the system is so fucked up. adam moriarty give me a fucking meeting is he the guy from he's the head of instagram and like he went on the breakfast club and it was just like the most tell charlotte man it was pathetic because they just if they could have had me sitting there like a like tim pool when they went broken dude i could have fucking laid into him

because there's so much bullshit that happens on the platform. Well, you know what happened to Duval, too. What? Duval's Instagram gets taken down every week. Right. There's nothing he can do about it. He's spoken to them. Exact same situation.

I think that some people get a target on their back. Yes. And I think they don't even try. Yeah. I think they don't even try to make sure that you can exist on the platform. I get deleted for impersonating myself all the time. What? Yeah.

So I have like a photo of a heart as my default picture so that you can't target me for impersonation because it's like not me. There's this guy. There's this guy, Yola. He has a podcast. This is Kitty? That's Kitty. God damn.

I thought it was Yomi Park. You know who Yomi Park is? No, I don't, but it sounds fun. The North Korean defector who got the huge tits who was on Rogan that ate rats? Oh, what? I didn't know about that. That's amazing. You didn't see that?

No. Bring up Yonmi and them soups. This dude, Yola, he's on his 28th Instagram just for being a dude who smokes weed. Yeah, that's too much. They just take him down, all left and right. He barely posted anymore, and they just won't let him exist. She defected? Yeah. Yeah, she's hot much. They just take him down, all left and right. He barely posted anymore, and they just won't let him exist. She defected? Yeah.

Yeah, she's hot as shit. Yeah. Yeah, she did that, bro. Yeah, you got to sign her. I don't know if that's a... Yo, can we get Yeonmi Park on OnlyFans? I would love to. She has some nice boobs.

She seems like she could do great. Yeah. No, she's crushing. She's absolutely crushing. Okay, so you guys are in the city for how long? A week. week yeah we're leaving wednesday at six when do you guys get to just do shit you know with y'all like go to dinner like do vacation like we're working on this we haven't taken any vacations just us two yeah so

we got a bunch of trips this summer and we we came out here with my mom because with the kid it's like i know we needed to get your mom on yeah we had a whole thing planned can we talk about that yeah tell all right so i had this big idea because i've never had a conversation with my mom about the fact that we do porn and so i text andrew and i huh you never had a conversation she 100 knows she totally gets it and she just kind of chooses to turn a blind eye to she's very very polite she said she's never even watched one of your podcasts so it's not like she's not just paying attention to the porn. Yeah, because even her

watching me like swear and smoke weed, she might not be super hyped on watching that. But anyway, I told Andrew, I go, I have an idea. It's my mom's birthday. Today, my mom's birthday.

Happy birthday, mom. And I said, let's have my mom come on the podcast and you can ask her about me doing porn for the first time. Embarrass the shit out of her.

Do some real Bam Margera shit. And then I basically told, I guess, my sister or my brother-in-law. They were so worried about how she might react that they spoiled the fucking joke and told her. She's the nicest lady. She's a retired. You should still wish her a happy birthday. I think we should call her, bro. I wanted to bring some Bam Margera

energy to the table. He wanted to punk me. Can you believe it? He wanted to punk me. I did, dude. So she's aware. Can I ask? Parker might be sleeping. Don't go crazy. Just say happy birthday. I'm just going to ask? Parker might be sleeping. No, don't go crazy.

Just say happy birthday. I'm just going to ask him to say happy birthday. I'm close to him, Mike. Okay. Oh, yeah, that's right. We have to talk about you being in the Illuminati also, remember? Oh, yeah, okay. I feel like old people don't answer their phone. All right, we'll see if she calls back.

So, okay, tell me about how you're in the Illuminati. What? Why is he in the Illuminati. What? Why is he in the Illuminati? Because he's part of it, dude. He's part of, like, you know, the whole Clinton mafia. So, uh... Break the whole thing down. My pops...

Do you not know this? You haven't heard about this? You don't subscribe to the Clicks channel. She doesn't know. Anyway... He's bona fide Illuminati. Yeah. What?

Yes! I take back my engagement ring. You just wanted to show off the ring. Oh, I take back this ring. My dad was kind of like a low-level Democratic operative, like, you know, helping people's campaigns early on. Of course. In the early 90s. 92.

Helping out. Just helping out. He was an alderman. Yeah. In the city of Nashua, New Hampshire. You know, it is what it is. It's kind of like as low

as you could really be on the local governance totem pole, but he was doing his thing and he wanted to be mayor or something. He figured he could turn it into something.

We have a real skeptic on our hands here. Can we bust out some conspiracy corner? Oh. Right now. Hold on, hold on. Wait for it.

And action. Okay, good. Okay, as you were. As you were, Mr. 22. Okay, New Hampshire. Low-level operative. Right. You kind of have to win New Hampshire in the primaries, at least then, if you wanted to have a shot at winning the presidency.

Kind of important then to be a low-level operative in New Hampshire in the primaries, at least then, if you wanted to have a shot at winning the presidency. Kind of important then to be a low-level operative in New Hampshire, right? He was clever enough or lucky enough to serve on Bill Clinton's first election campaign, you know, in New Hampshire, helped him win New Hampshire. Probably realistically didn't play that big a role. Probably not.

Probably had nothing to do with it. Last name is Grand Mason. Probably had nothing to do with it. And then what I mean? Last name is Grand Mason. Probably had nothing to do with it. And then my dad caught a charge, a federal charge, for mail fraud because he allegedly was using his role as an alderman to basically get the construction company that he was employed by work, get jobs. What's an alderman for us dummies? It's just basically like a really, really low—it would be like a senator for a tiny city helping to make decisions or whatever. He allegedly was using his power to get more work for his boss. The way he told me is basically that the feds wanted to get his boss and that he wouldn't snitch on him.

So he ends up having to do a plea deal he does one year in federal prison around 1995 and then when plug talk right and then when bill clinton leaves uh when he leaves office bill clinton issues a series of presidential pardons as they do he issued like 30 i think 40 pardons. And all the people that Bill Clinton met in his life that went to prison, he chose to pardon someone who was already out of prison, but it made it so that he was no longer a felon and he could vote, which was very important to my dad. Wow.

Helped him kind of clear up his name there. I would assume my dad is, you know, not talked to Bill Clinton since, or probably before that for like maybe 10 years. Has he been on the plane? There's been a lot of talk of that. Has he been on the plane?

He never knew Epstein. He never went to the island. Oh my gosh. You're hearing about this for the first time? I'm just like, the plane. Somebody made a YouTube video. Somebody made a YouTube video about him in the Illuminati. I thought it was just because your last name had Mason in it. That probably is.

Grand Mason. They're not even hiding it. They're audacious. It does mean big house. But who's invited to the big house? Should I not change my last name when we get married? No, absolutely. And that is how you'll join the Illuminati

and then I'll get to tell you about all the cool shit we got going on. Oh, man. That's how he has the connections to all these different people. You remember the Stonecutters? The Masons? No, the Stonecutters from The Simpsons? No. Damn.

Why go? No, it was just like Homer had a giant boulder chain to him and shit. It was like the best episode ever. When he could drive underneath the whole city, cut traffic. Oh, really? It's like you find out in the episode that everybody in the whole town is in this secretive group. Called the Stonecutters.

The Stonecutters. Hilarious. This is this awkward thing where you tell somebody about a really funny episode of a TV show. They're not cultured in any way,

so they have no idea what you're talking about. And then you just project the insecurity that nobody knows about the show. When you two were walking around New York,

who gets noticed more frequently? Really? I did have Phony on the plug when I was on the phone with my dad, though, and I was like. Her content is kind of secretive. Not even that. Like, they can't run it. Like, we had Daisy Taylor on the podcast. You know Daisy Taylor?

She's a trans porn star. Right. And it's like, she said, like, people will notice her and then make, like, a knee-jerk reaction to be like, Daisy! And then catch themselves because they're admitting they like trans porn. So, like, I imagine people notice you and they're about to be like, Lena! And they're like, with their girl. Yeah, does that happen? A guy will see you and be like, like, double take three times?

It did happen to me the other day. And then the guy saw me later and was like, I like your work, but, like, your YouTube, too. It's okay. Trying to be supportive. It's fine. Yeah, it's like, it's fine. I just like like i like your work but like your youtube too it's okay trying to be supportive yeah it's like it's fine i just like i like your what is the best way to be a porn fan yeah how do you compliment a porn star the best i think just saying hi i like your work is totally fine when you're like kind of weird and like oh my god like just don't get it's awkward when they start telling you how hot you are don't tell me that happens that happens I'm hot. Wait, that happens? That happens in front of you? Like you are the hot,

no, not in front of me, but like. At the porn convention, yeah, there's some weird fans over there. At the porn convention, you see all kinds of shit. All bets are off, right? I feel like an elephant tamer

when I'm at the porn convention. Because I'm like walking her around and rushing her through that group to the end. We're holding hands and guys are still like. They're still just. Ready to propose.

It's so weird. But I know i'm halfway famous because i see a ton of people googling me right in front of my face they'll look up yeah yeah they'll be like at a distance on their phone and glancing up at me i know they're googling me and like kids come up to me with like youtube with like they'll search no jumper and they'll be like this is you and that's always kind of weird i'm like i mean it's cool it's nice but it's i know it's not a hundred percent clicking with them no it's cool. It's nice, but I know it's not 100% clicking with them. No, it's clicking.

Yeah, a little click. They know what it is. Now, have you ever been asked if you're a waiter because somebody recognized you but didn't know where from? Wait, what? Like, sometimes people go, like, their brain is just trying to understand who you are. Like, how they know you. So they position you as another job, and then they go, oh, no, I watch you and your wife fuck. Oh, no, not a waiter. Has watch you and your wife fuck. Oh,

no, not a waiter. Has this happened to you? Yeah. Like different jobs. Well, you look much more like a waiter than he does.

Is this a jacket? He has a face. Is it a jacket? Yeah, exactly. I would never be hired. Can you tell me how your hair grew back?

Oh, I got surgery on it. Yeah, T-Roll did too. I'm going to air him out. Air him out. We have a bunch of homies who did it.

So I feel like the whole like porn world kind of rubbing off on us. Went to Turkey or you went did too. I'm going to air him out. Air him out. We have a bunch of homies who did it, so I feel like the whole porn world kind of rubbing off on us. Went to Turkey or you went to... No, I went to Beverly Hills. And it was just... I mean, this is amazing. He got a fucking deal. He got that for free in Turkey, by the way. Who? T-Roll. Oh, I didn't know he went. Yeah. But you have to go to another country. That seems like a lot of work. That's what I'm saying.

Well, it's crazy cheap. Actually, someone took a funny picture of people coming back from Turkey, the flight back. It's just a bunch of guys with handkerchiefs on their fucking heads. I've actually had it done twice. First time it didn't stay? No, it worked, but then I needed more. And it's like the first time I did it, there's two different types. There's one where they slice a strip of skin out the back of your head.

You did the micros? And then the second one I did where they remove a bunch of individual follicles. Oh, you can't see the scar. You can't. And I got a big fucking tattoo back there over it. yeah yeah yeah yeah but uh it stayed though dude it's crazy the surgery is getting so good i want to get it again but the follicle one let's talk about that again oh yeah it's done is ready to go it's got it's just the individual follicles i mean it doesn't hurt that bad like they give you a bunch of painkillers i i i was still hiding it from my

fucking uh employees and everything when I did it. So I didn't go into work for a week. I just sat on the couch and watched TV. And then I go back into work. Nobody fucking noticed. And then one day we're on the podcast. And one of my homies, AD, was just like, just admit it. Admit you did it.

And I just started laughing in his face. And all of a sudden, I couldn't deny it anymore. And I was like, yeah. But then me doing it has caused a shitload of people i know today they start feeling more comfortable yeah people are so fascinated by it but now i feel like a lot of people fucking know about it whereas when i got it the first time i'm 38 now i got it when i was 28 when i first moved to long beach and i didn't know you got it back in the day yeah before i met you yeah and i got another one after but but i i didn't want people to know then because I'm like 28.

I'm feeling like this is so early for me to be getting it done. Like nobody I knew even had any fucking clue what it was. Now I don't give a shit. Yeah. I mean, now if you're not keeping it with the keeps or hymns or one of these, you are getting the plugs. It's a choice. Like, why wouldn't we? Don't you like it more?

Yeah, I love it. I like your shape tattoo, but this looks great. the plugs. It's a choice. Like, why wouldn't we? Don't you like it more? I like your shape tattoo, but this looks great. If you're a dude, what could you do with money to increase your looks? Lie about how much money. The needy L thing. You haven't heard about that? They put like a metal fucking rod in your leg. You can get like three inches taller.

Yeah. Or that guy that got the dick on his arm. Don't tell Al that. You're actually going to grow? Yeah. I don't know if Al will be able to walk. No, you can't walk for a while. Is it like a year?

I think it's almost a year that you can't exercise or run or anything like that. Imagine when the technology gets better, if they could make you like six inches taller. Oh, yeah. It's so painful. But it's going to be fucked up because you're still gonna have these stumpy ass little arms you look like a t-rex yeah that's why you can't go too much or you stretch out the arms a little bit too which is that's now you're just out of control you're gonna do all your fucking body it's crazy there's no dick surgery to make your dick bigger oh there is it does it actually work a lot of porn dudes inject fucking silicone or some shit no that's

a different thing they also inject some shit into their dick that makes it hard as fuck for like four hours stop and i've had some men that's crazy they just like fill it up with like it's a tiny little pin prick if you if you really want to learn about this rico strong told me all about it in his interview but he uh it's like you prick it and your dick becomes like ridiculously hard you're not gonna come or if you come your dick stays hard and i guess it's like dangerous like you're not supposed to fucking do this but old guys do it and some porn stars do it and if you ever watch a porn and the guy really looks like he's just fucking the shit out of her for like a crazy amount of time there's like a decent chance but then a lot of the porn stars have this like goop that they fucking shoot into their dick that just kind of stays chance but then a lot of the porn stars have this like goop

that they fucking shoot into their dick that just kind of stays in there and a lot of times if you see a dude where it kind of looks like he has like a permanent boner like his dick doesn't get that much bigger when it gets hard he's got these injections into it yeah oh that's crazy but they're all like illegal right they're not like supposed to be sold i don't know how regulated they are maybe they have to go to another country or something but do girls ever get not get wet do they just like i'm sorry i'm not wet today uh i feel like that's a good-ass question like we can't get hard we got all the responsibility we got to get our dick hard but y'all just gotta just we suck dick we get a lot of spit it goes everywhere but also i notice like when i go down on a girl there's always like

a taste down there like a sweet taste so i feel like a lot of girls. We get a lot of spit. It goes everywhere. But also I notice when I go down on a girl, there's always a taste down there, like a sweet taste. So I feel like a lot of girls will go and put... You don't have to say all that. Why do they make you a ghost? No, they put lube that has a taste to it

in their pussy so that before you go in, it's not dry. Oh, so the lube has a flavor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you girls ever told a girl she got to fucking wash it up? Have you ever been like,

wash it up? We all have a time where we break and we go and do... And they put their little flavor on? That's kind of cute. Like at the dentist when they ask what flavor of toothpaste you want, you're like, oh my God, run it up. Give me the cherry. Yeah, that's kind of fun.

No, sometimes the girls have a little bit of an odor, but even the worst one that we've encountered was like, not really. I honestly can't think of any situation on Plug Talk specifically where it was like, that was awful. I'll never want to work with her again. She smelled, ever. Who got the most fire pussy outside of your wife?

I don't know who he's going to say. Who? Kira Noir. What? Who? Kira Noir. Kira Noir? K-I-R-A-N-O-I-R.

Let's get that out. So before we worked with her on Plug Talk, I did a lesbian scene with her. And I think that was one of my first times doing a scene where I was genuinely so turned on. I wanted her to come back and just fuck me off camera. And then Adam got to fuck her on camera. And we got to kind of enjoy it together. She was just really making love to us.

She had the softest lips. She would look you right in the eyes. She was beautiful. It was great. I didn't, you know, I thought she was hot before or whatever, but I really didn't expect it. I mean, when it's past a certain point

in terms of sex, it's like it goes beyond them being hot and it's just like the vibe or like the aura they bring to it. You believe like a sexual energy. Some girls fuck like you're the love of their life. And for that 20 minutes, you just feel like you're being showered with so much affection. It's kind of weird for me because when the girls are really staring into my eyes, I feel like I'm kind love of their life. And for that 20 minutes, you just feel like you're being showered with so much affection. It's kind of weird for me because when the girls are really staring

into my eyes, I feel like I'm kind of cheating on her. And that kind of freaks me out. The funny thing is the girls that I feel like we've had the most fun with. Yeah, that's terrifying. Guys, that's so terrifying. Have you ever had that dream, that nightmare? Yeah, where you don't have any teeth and you're fucking somebody else besides your wife.

And you wake up and you're like, oh my god. Oh my lord, why are my God. Oh, my Lord. Why are my pants wet? I'm going to get high. You'll be all right. Yeah, dude. No, so how do you cope through that trauma? Like, what do you do in that situation when you're really worried about that?

I just got to remember that, you know, I love my girl and I'm not, she's just playing games with me. She's just doing it because you got to remember she's doing it for the camera because to look up is kind of like the proper thing to do on camera. And it's really hard. What do you mean? When you're down there and you're trying to look all the way in someone's eyes, it's not really like, it's hard. Try it right now. I can't. One of my eyes doesn't go all the way up. It doesn't.

They're so tall and they're up here and you have to be like looking pretty and looking all the way up. It doesn't. There's the hole, and they're up here, and you have to be looking pretty and looking all the way up into the eyes. And it kind of hurts your head. Keep that in mind for the thumbnail. I want to see you. Put something in. And then I have to look lovingly? Some girls really have the crazy eyes.

There's this girl that we did a scene with, Peyton Presley. She's hot but the way that she looks on camera is like fresh out the asylum like her eyes are just like like fucking blowing out of her head like she just looks nuts when she does porn but it's like really hot and good on camera but it's like she's she's clearly like paid attention to how she looks on camera and she knows what she's leaning into it. All right, guys. We're going to take a break for a second because y'all need to make some fucking money on my boy, Izzy, the last style bender. I diss on ya.

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Oh, Adriana, yeah. That, oh wow. Yeah, and look at her eating that guy's ass. That could be you, Andrew. Yeah, dude, that could be you.rew yeah dude that could be you i could be eating his eyes but you have to be lovingly you have to do it lovingly and look up yeah no yeah yeah the the girl with the broken neck bone or whatever it is adriana yeah that's a real she's like a pro wrestler with this shit bro because she's crazy with, we don't really do any positions that we wouldn't do in our normal sex life, to be honest.

Like, we like to keep it very natural. We like to be comfortable. We basically treat it like we're just hooking up with the girl on camera. Who's on top? We switch. Yeah, we switch all of them. You don't just go straight back? Oh, my gosh.

Andrew doesn't believe in being on top. Come on, dogs. What are we doing? Why do we get so successful to be on top? He's a little pillow princess, bro. Come on, working all day. You're a nimble guy. Why are you staying thin for if you're not planning on be on top? Come on, I'm working all day. You're a nimble guy. Why are you staying thin for if you're not planning on getting on top?

No, I'm out here like that. And then every pop, I hit him with a pop. And that's all. Every fourth stroke is a pop? Yeah, I do a pop. Once you slow down, I hit you with a little pop. You pass the checkpoint. So you're using blue shoes to lay down?

Yeah. Okay. But some girls are just grinding. Because it's fighting the rush of blood. They want to get on top of you And just grind that clitoris to you Yeah that's like a type of chick That's it the best type You described the best

Some girls only want to do that Wait you want to be on top the whole time I mean I get on top a lot I'm the pillow princess but I do get on top once in a while What's a pillow princess You That's what I'm the pillow princess, but I do get on top once in a while. What's a pillow princess? You. That's what I'm talking about, though. On your back.

That's real G-shit. Do you ever lay on your stomach? Say what? Yeah. I lay on my side. Sometimes I lay on my side. You ever put your heel behind your head? You ever do that?

Sometimes. Every once in a while. Porn really teaches you to enjoy missionary in your private life because missionary is really not that great on camera. It's like kind of at the bottom of the totem pole. But then in real life, you can kiss them. You can look them in the eye. You can grab a titty. You can grab their ass.

You know, it's like missionary is fucking great. We do a lot of missionary. But then, you know, if you're doing it on camera, it's kind of whack. You're like covering her whole body. Yeah, you're covering what everybody wants to see. That's the thing in porn that people don't realize is there's a lot of like opening up where you like, you want them to see the full insertion as opposed to when you're

actually having sex where that would never even cross your mind. But like you gotta open up a lot. That's why you see a lot of fucking porn dudes who are doing this or this where they like put their arm behind their back. You know, your instinct when you're fucking a girl doggy is to put both hands on her ass but as a porn guy

you really kind of want to leave that open so they can see what's going on you ever tried doggy but you're laying on your back you ever try that you're just in it and then you just lay back

and then you're just in the best position ever that's what that's called play dead it's called play dead you never tried play dead you never tried that play dead

that's actually one of the best ones when they're fucking riding your dick from behind and you can just sort of film fish and get all in there. Not at all filming. Tuck it under the butthole. Fish, bro. You go fish-eyed?

On the iPhone? Yeah, it makes your dick look so much fucking bigger. It's like a skate park. It's cool. My head looks bigger. I'm over there with a freaking alien head. You're not worried about her at all? No.

You got to be careful because some of the angles you'll hit, they'll fucking seven head looking nuts. It's insane. Yeah, that's what Dove says whenever he's on the outside of the fisheye picture, and he looks a little inflated. And he's always like, no, no, it's the fisheye, dude. Yeah, he thinks that the 0.5 lens at the iPhone makes him look like he has breasts.

He thinks it's just the 0.5. We've been trying to start an only fans for dope actually i'd crush no he does he has he has amazing breasts for him for a guy he's like and i mean this sincerely you think i'm making this up take your shirt off let's go i i'll take my shirt off with you but we both have to take our shirts off but he does have like an old remember women's breasts back in the day had like a do you you know what I'm talking about? Like they would, they would come out to like almost like a teepee and like he has

a 70s breast from a woman. Take your shirt off side by side right now. I think Dove could do it. Right now, two days before your honeymoon. This is not an episode

of Plum Talk. Two days before your honeymoon, let's show what Italy is going to be getting with you shirtless for a week. I would be more than happy to do before and after, but you have to take

your breasts out. Same time. Fair. And we go. We take your breasts out and then we squeeze whatever's in them into those glasses. Leave your capris on. Take your shirt off. Let's go.

Is there... Well, a lot of guys ask me to help usher them into the porn world, but I've never heard it pitched like this. Yeah, because most guys don't go off their tits. I'm saying that guys' tits are going to be the new part of porn. Well, if Brendan Schaub's fucking assistant can make $100,000

a month... She was not making $100,000 a month. That's what they were saying, yeah. And they got mad at Rogan for exposing it, right? I mean, you can go see it. It's public information, isn't it? No. Not the income. Oh, she had it private. Oh, my God. I'm into the feet. Right. Are you a feet guy? You're a feet guy. Hers are calloused and blistered right now, so I've been trying to... I have more feet fans than the average girl, and I don't know why. Are you a feet guy? You're a feet guy. Hers are calloused and blistered right now.

I have more feet fans than the average girl, and I don't know why. I don't have cute feet. I will admit this. I have really big feet for how short I am. What size are those? These are 8 1⁄2. That's a fucking... As long as you're not in double-dedge.

No. If you're not in double-dedge... Do you have a read on feet guys? If a guy's really into feet, does that mean he's maybe weird in other ways? Yeah. What are you trying to say about me? Nothing, bro. It seems like you're trying

to say something about me. I'm asking about her and her fans. Okay, so I've, like, worked with girls, and they'll just start, like, licking my feet and putting them in their mouth, and I'm like,

oh, I really like this. So I kind of feel like I understand the feet people I don't do anything sexually with them. You just want to look at them? I just think they look pretty like an ocean.

But you know what? This guy's a surfer. He's literally in the ocean all the time. I may drop an anvil on them. They have to be done right and they have to be beautiful and everything, but I don't need to do anything sexual with them. I just think they're a beautiful part of the body.

You don't want to touch them? Nothing. Like your eyeballs. It's like you can look at someone's eyes and be like, wow, you have beautiful eyes, but you don't want to do anything sexual to their eyes. I hope not. That'd be weird. I thought you have beautiful eyes. But you don't want to do anything sexual to their eyes. I hope not. Yeah. Right? That'd be weird. Yeah.

So, yeah. I thought you guys were more into kinky stuff. I feel like it's not neutral about feet. Like, it's just I don't really feel like showing it. I like when someone touches my feet or licks them. She likes a nice foot rub. I like just nice light touching all over. So, I like feet touching.

But I feel like a lot of times I'll be fucking her and I'll just kind of shove the foot in my mouth. And that kind of freaks her out because I'm not like easing my way. You put my foot in your mouth and then you stop and you went, did you walk outside barefoot? We're in the middle of sex. What the fuck are you asking me?

I had just taken a shower in front of him like five minutes before and I'm like, if you're gonna put my feet in your mouth. He tasted ground on you. He tasted ground. You got to eat dog shit. He tasted ground. This is the equivalent of when he tries to get all kinky and put his fingers in my mouth. And I can smell the blood on his fingers.

And I'm thinking about like, you didn't even wash your fucking hands. And you're putting it in my mouth right now. You're taking me out of it. So I had to get you back. That is true. It does take you out. Yeah, of course. His hands smell. I'm like a wine taster when I shove that foot in my mouth right now. You're taking me out of it. So I had to get you back. That is true. It does take you out. Yeah, of course. His hands smell.

I'm like a wine taster when I shove that foot in my mouth. I can taste everything in the whole thing. Oh, there's hints of dog shit. And a Mexican possibly working. Barefoot. Oh, is that a car heart? Yeah. Do you guys still dirty talk?

We get into it. I feel like we talk more like lovey-dovey because our porn life is like more dirty talk that I feel like we kind of swang it the opposite way. We're like, I love you. Can you tell when you guys are like saying lines that aren't natural to one another during porn? Like, can you tell when you're faking it a little bit? I would like to one another during porn? Can you tell when you're faking it a little bit? I would like to reveal something. What? One time, she

fake ate my ass. She got back that one time. Normally she does it for real. But one time, she just like, I don't know, the other girl's giving me head and she just decides to get back there. I don't know if she smelled something, but she wasn't licking my ass. She was licking the area immediately above it and afterwards i just

called her out in the car like what was that okay you had a post-game conference let me let me explain yeah please really really big butt cheeks okay and if you're like this and the girl's giving you head but you're standing upright what i'm supposed to open the curtains and put my whole face in it? Like, you need to bend over a little bit. Yeah, you need to bend over, dog. Open me up. So I just, like, I'm like, you know,

because I can't get all the way in there. Plus, like, I'll lose a fucking eyelash. I mean, it's like, I keep wanting him to let me eat his ass in different positions, but he doesn't like feeling feminine, so he won't, like, bend over. But, like, that's better. So what's the most masculine way to get your ass to eat?

Like George Washington on the fucking Pope? Yeah, yeah. Just like that. Just like that. I can actually see the outline of his penis head right there. That's crazy. The best way to get into it is you're just getting some head. She's getting it real, real sloppy.

The spit is dripping down, so she can't taste the fecal matter on your butthole. And then slowly your legs just kind of go up. It gets deeper in there, you know? Cannonball. Cannonball. I do want to hit the cannonball. Let's all do it, bro.

That's a good position to get your ass in. But that's too vulnerable for him. You can roll me around and hit it from a bunch of different positions. It's wide open. What position do you most want to eat it in? Probably in that position. Sometimes he tries to sit directly on my face, and he's like twice as big as me. That's hot.

And I'm like, okay. Why? But like... I like to like lay her down flat and be like fucking her face and then just sort of plunk your asshole down on her mouth.

Yeah. I like to be a little more in control than that. Yeah, that's fire. Happy birthday, Mrs. Grimm, Mrs. Grimm. Don't mention her name. Real bummed that you missed

the podcast today. Thank God. You missed she's not here. You missed an absolute banger. Thank God she's not here. I'm so glad she didn't come. But it would have been really fun to talk about this. And she's sitting right there. Just imagine.

That would have been crazy. She would have left. She would have cried. Really? It would have been bad. She's the nicest lady you've met in your entire life. I have a feeling. I have a feeling. I have a feeling.

It doesn't make sense that he came out of her. Shut the fuck up. It doesn't make any sense. People have been saying that to me my whole life, but it hurts coming from me. She apologize to me all the time for stuff. She's like, I'm so sorry. She feels like it's his fault when he does stupid shit. She's like, I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry he plunked his ass on your face after that blowjob. No, not at all. He doesn't know anything about that. I mean, we've talked about moms on the show in the past. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We talk a lot about our moms. And our moms all have quite big tits. So we talk a lot about that.

That's how I knew you were a real one, Adam. You know what I'm saying? If your mom got that headpiece, that's what's up. I'm serious. We don't know for a fact. We do know about Mark, right? We know nothing about Mark. He's fucking embarrassed. He's scared to admit it. That's my point, okay?

No, no, no. My mom is a pious woman. A woman of God. No, but it's fire to have a mom with super fat tits. We all love that. Well, she's starting to like kind of get put in the MILF category, don't you think?

I mean, you are literally. I'm not 18, so yeah, I'm automatically a MILF now. Is that the rules? Kind of, sometimes. It depends on your look, but you know,

some girls have a more like youthful look. We had a girl that someone was like, do you want to work with her the other day? And she swore to God she looked 13.

I was terrified of her. She had like the tiniest limbs, but she was like 22. I was like. I was terrified of her. She had like the tiniest limbs but she was like 22. I was like, I cannot, no way. She just looked too juvenile. So young.

Really, really young. It looked like she put a filter on her face, those ones that just make you look so young. It would have been a creepy visual. I kind of felt, you know,

a lot of people would not have necessarily like paid enough attention to be like, oh, she's a grown woman. Yeah, because they're not looking at the license at that point.

They're just looking at the human that looks like a child yeah are there any porn trends you think are too weird oh like any stepsister thing like the sister brother thing well i feel lucky that we don't have to do that well i feel like i get approached a little bit more like as in the milf category so i feel like they want me to do like mommy talk and stuff like that and like i'm definitely what is that i might be into that what's that give us an idea no like you know talk about like my mommy milkers and stuff like that like and i'm kind of not into that what the fuck they're saying during the porn please use the term mommy milker. Yeah.

Okay. But I don't think you would like that. And like, they want like your breasts to be like fed to them. And it's like weird. Because your mom's Scottish. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just the accent would throw me off. Like to hear my mom talking about her mommy milkers like that.

Have you had your milk today? Hey, your bones are strong, aren't they? At least one of them is. Oh, my God. I feel like I'm watching Game of Thrones right now. My mom's going to watch this. That's the crazy thing. She watches them all.

Oh, man. She does. It's crazy. Do you guys do any studio scenes or is it all OnlyFans stuff? We did one. We did one for Pornhub, and I think a director from Brazzers shot it. And after that day, especially because you got cum in my eye, like directly in my eye, I was like, I am not built for this shit.

Why didn't you blink? That's what we always do. He was like, don't fuck this up. Don't close your eyes. Look pretty. And then he just like, it stays red for like many days, and it hurts. Like, I can't even explain how bad it hurts. It's like stinging.

Does he have a salty nutter? Everyone does. I feel like it hurts that bad. We're driving back from downtown LA. We fucking dead stop traffic and her eyes are so red because I had busted a nut on her face, got some in her eye. And then they're like, no, stop. And they're like filming it from all different angles and taking pictures. there was an outro after the cum shot which is like more acting no i really should have not came in your eye for that one or any of them ever again yeah wait why

didn't you try to do it so it just splatters across the whole face and not just directly in the eye that seems more crazy i was i was kind of in a rush to get it over with they had us fucking on this blue couch that was like super low so it was almost impossible to get a good position on it and then there was a lot of like lint like my dick I was almost seeing like balls of little blue lint. And then you would put it in my mouth and all the carpet pieces would be like

in my mouth. No! Yeah I like had a hard time being in just the sex that day. Can you break from that and like fix it? Like fix the Lent situation? Well, I feel like if it was my own set, I would be like

much more comfortable. Like, I'm like, okay, let's do this. When someone else is directing you, you're kind of like, oh, I don't want to piss off the director

and I just want to get this done. And you're like this, that the scene, the idea was that she, I was interviewing this other porn star and then Lena snuck in

and was giving me head under the table. While he was doing the image. That's fire. It's a good idea, right? That's a great idea. Now, in reality, when you have a table

and you have a chair, they don't really, like, match them up size-wise so that there will be enough room to give a head. So she experienced multiple concussions from that. She's just smashing her head.

Just like, coom, coom, coom. And it was just like, oh, and she's having to do it good for on camera, right? And it's like, it's really difficult. And I'm, like, opening up under there to, like, having to do it good for on camera, right? And it's really difficult. And I'm like opening up under there to like try to make it. It was.

I really respect people who really turned us off to doing sort of like scenes. And they're like, what are the positions you guys got in you? We need five minutes of each position. And I'm like, and they want like five or six positions. I'm like, you want us to have sex for fucking 50 minutes? Yeah. And like do pile driver and shit? No.

No, fuck all that. Back. Nobody. Back. Hello, princess. That's it. What we make from the average plug talk scene is so much more than anybody would ever pay What do you guys make on plug talk?

Many, many hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. I believe that. She hates when I talk about it. But I think it's good to get it out there. But the fact that, like, nobody's going to pay us, you know, 50, 60, 70 grand to do a fucking porn scene for them. So it's like we're kind of priced out of doing stuff for anybody else. And after girls do those scenes, do their OnlyFans bump?

Yes. And that's why they're, like, super down to do it. That girl, Sky Bree, we signed her, and her revenue went up 100 times what it was on OnlyFans. She was already doing OnlyFans. Fucked with you guys. Yep. And where'd you guys find her?

So she was a fan of No Jumper, right? Okay. And then when we started doing the Patreon, which is kind of like light plug talk where we'll like interview OnlyFans girls and they take their titties out, shake their ass, whatever, and have this like sexually charged conversation, charged conversation whatever but it's not we don't do any sex stuff right she just fucking hits up my guy who was booking it doesn't mention that she had already been dming me for like years and years and then she comes in does the whole fucking interview and by the end of it i'm convinced like i gotta tell lena about this we gotta manage this girl because she made it perfectly like she i couldn't believe that someone this hot was working at Target for like three years. And then she

came out. Could not be like a bottle service girl or something. She was from Pennsylvania. I don't know what kind of town she was working with. Like clubs or whatever. Nobody had realized her beauty yet at that point, I guess. Really? So were you at all like jealous at first when she's like deeming Adam? It was the first time he came

home to me and was like, this girl's hot. We need to sign her. So I think at first first when she's like, It was the first time he came home to me and was like, this girl's hot, we need to sign her. So I think at first I was kind of like, oh, this is like a weird conversation to have. But then I was also able to put that aside and be like, okay, this is a good business move. And then we built out the contract, we flew her out. And I don't know, I've always liked the idea of coaching a girl through

so that she doesn't make a bunch of stupid mistakes, fall into like, there's all these OnlyFans, like, agency-type people. They're like, well, we'll run your accounts and we'll take 50% and whatever. Oh, wow. So it's like, you know, if I could guide a girl who obviously had a lot of potential and is very successful in proving herself in that way, like, to not be making those mistakes. But I come home at, like, 8 p.m. telling her about this hot 22-year-old I met and she's covered in baby puke. And she's just like, can we maybe talk about this later? I'm just like, okay, I'm feeling really ugly right now.

You got to pick your times to talk about stuff. But at this point, I feel like she's so toughened up to it that our rules are kind of so set in place that it doesn't really bother her that much. Well, what are the rules in the scene? Is there a rule? Don't fall in love with them. But can they get the her that much, you know? Well, that's, what are the rules in the scene? Is there a rule? Don't fall in love with them. Yeah, I mean, that would be cool. But can they get the nut? What do you mean?

Like, can he come on them? Yeah. Yeah, I don't care. If they take the nut, then it's like, she's just going to swoop in and lick it off like a seagull anyway, so. Like a seagull? I'm going to run to the bathroom and spit it out. Like a seagull.

That is kind of the thing, is like, even even if in a normal threesome if you and your girlfriend have a threesome then you really need to fuck your girl more than the other girl right but like when we're doing plug talk it's kind of like she's in every scene so it's it's kind of like more important that we highlight the other girls so there is kind of like a balance yeah yeah yeah there's a balance but you know it works out is that the future you guys managing a bunch of these girls i mean that seems like an incredibly lucrative business that you guys are it takes a lot of time though like you got to spend your time scouting and then doing the investing and promoting them and everything and then you never know if they're gonna dip out but it forces you to have this like

really analytical mind state about how much money a girl could make because it's like a girl who can make 10 or 20 000 off only fans is kind of like easy to find to find a girl who can make like multiple hundreds of thousands a month is a little bit more difficult so it's like you know in your normal life I'm sure you find a wide variety of women hot right but it kind of like forces me into the mentality of like really looking at a girl and trying to figure out what guys would think of them which is it's fucking weird but also it's like for me because i'm the one who's most communicating with the girls like i i need her to be like smart because i'm not gonna like teach her every last little thing about this is how you use the like button on social media or

like hey go shoot content and then she's like doesn't do it you know it's like i don't want to babysit she also has to be like um emotionally uh stable you know like a lot of girls that are in this business don't have that and then you're dealing with their emotions and you're managing them they could be out doing drugs they could be fucking with random dudes yeah it's kind of tricky other shit what's the difference between a five thousand dollar a month only fans girl and a two hundred thousand dollar a month like is it a content strategy is it a look i feel like it's not just a $200,000 a month. Is it a content strategy? Is it a look? I feel like it's not just a look. I feel like it's a viral hook and story.

With Sky, we played into the fact that she worked at Target, and so we did this TikTok outside of a Target where we made it seem like she was bringing out our stuff that we bought to our car, and we picked her up that way, even though it didn't actually happen that day. That way, and it really worked. and also target's like a super relatable place

for a guy who feels like he can meet a hot girl right maybe at target and so she like took a bunch of photos in her target uniform and stuff and uh that really worked the best girls who really have the most explosive start in the only fans game like with her when she came out she was doing a good amount on a private snapchat before only fans, when she came out, she was doing a good amount on private Snapchat before OnlyFans. And then she came out with a YouTube video where she said, I'm going to do a sex tape if I get to a million subscribers. And it gets written about by every fucking website. And it just became the most ridiculously viral thing. And then at the same time, she did a vlog on her YouTube channel that was just called, I let my best friend have sex

with my boyfriend, which I don't really like think of that as something that would do incredibly well on YouTube these days, but it went fucking crazy. I got like 10, 20 million views, whatever. Those videos have so many millions of views, but you don't know. And it was like an accident. She already clearly was somebody that like people were attracted to and they were buying her OnlyFans. But then those like viral stories, it was just this like ridiculous way. So you're not only selling a look,

you're selling a story behind it. In the best case. Yeah. But then, I mean, there are some girls who like have no personality, but have like the biggest fucking ass you've ever seen in your life. And they're rich as shit.

Yeah. You know, or like they have amazing boobs and sometimes it's just fake boobs. Sometimes like it'll be a girl who just has like massive fake tits that you almost can't even believe exist. And you wouldn't really think that that many guys that you are friends with would be super attracted to her. But, no, she's rich as fuck, huge fan base. But, like, it's a combination. If it could be personality, look, and having, like, a narrative, that's the best case.

And that's why I think with something like fucking Shab's assistant, somehow her being his assistant, that's relatable to them. It just makes it seem real, you know? Right. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, Bad Barbie was not like a dream girl that anyone was like, I need to see her OnlyFans. But yeah, it's definitely not all appearance. Oh, she doesn't.

And she makes crazy. Like the environmentalism girl, the same thing. I forget what it was, but she was doing like nudes to save the environment. The charity girl. Right, yeah. And she makes crazy money. Like, the environmentalism girl, the same thing. I forget what it was, but she was doing, like, nudes to save the environment. The charity girl. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was something about the trees in Australia or something. Yeah, like the wildfires in Australia.

Yeah, I know. She made a ton of money, too. But, yeah, it's, like, it's just the hook. Like, it does—appearance is definitely not all. But then you have some girls who kind of take it to the extreme, like Kazumi. I don't know if you know about her. She's on your pod sometimes. Yeah, this Asian chick. kind of take it to the extreme like kazumi i don't know if you know about her she's on your pod sometimes yeah this asian chick and she like she she will think she's some fucking viral

marketing genius and she'll think of a new hook like every week or every couple months or whatever and like one of them was like i'm sending free nudes to people who prove to me that they're vaccinated and it was just getting written about like by all these places that are just super gullible or just see it as something that'll go viral or even like the girl who was selling her farts and jars yeah so you gotta be kind of smart and like figure out this is the game and like how can i play it bella delphine with the bathwater right but now i feel like the people are getting more and more kind of cautious about buying into narratives because they've sort of seen it all like the the thing about her making the sex tape at a million subscribers, I don't know that anyone would really

care. Because it was early in the game. And eventually what's popular now will be rejected and that will be the new thing that's popular. So once everything becomes a narrative and game, someone's just going to go, I got fucked in the ass. And it'll just be so different from everything else that's out there.

Do either one of you personally subscribe to anyone else's only fans? I did maybe like early on, but pre pandemic because only fans is not like the simplest platform to use.

And sometimes you kind of have to like figure it out all the different functions. So I subscribe to people as like, well, for actual research

purposes. Yeah. To see how people were running their accounts. Yeah. Same. Same.

But how many accounts are you subscribed to? This is actually, I don't have any. I've been close. I've been very close. How close? Like Reddit? You've been close to spending $5. I'm not rolling in it, but I could if I wanted to.

There's been a few girls I've met over the years where it was just like, I've got to see what's going on in here. I've got to find out. But then you subscribe and you're disappointed because then it's like they have twerking videos or something. Sometimes. And sometimes it'll be like you realize you pay the fucking $10 or whatever. And then you realize, oh, I'm not seeing shit unless I hop in the DMs, you know, which to me is kind of almost like unethical.

You know, like we like we put all the plug talk episodes just on the feed. You don't have to pay more money to get the. But most girls are doing the pay-per-view things in the in the dms but i just think that like but if i can't see one dick going in your mouth on the feed if you have a free page i don't think you have to have anything on the feed and you can sell everything in the dms but if you're charging a fee just to subscribe there should be some stuff on the feed for free do Do you have global data on where people are subscribing from? Number one in Mexico City. Let's go!

Because they think you're Mexican. That was Pornhub data from years ago. Oh, really? Yeah. He's making stuff up. I don't know if they have global data. Or any Pornhub data where you're like, wait, really? Like Morocco or something like that? Mexico City, right? I think Mexico. I was highly ranked there a

few years ago they always put out at the end of the year all their are their all their statistics of like what countries are into what porn and things like that yeah that's always fascinating okay i have a question before you guys get out of here because i know you guys have a busy day sharp how do you come across him is this somebody that you saw and you thought he was talented did you know right away what is the growth for him sharp uh so there's a podcast called soft white underbelly well not podcast he just does these interviews mark uh mark stills what's his name stills or something mark fuck i forget uh latia a lot he's got some great interviews too yeah um yeah and he has a studio in downtown la and he just does interviews with a lot of street people, prostitutes, escorts.

Drug addicts. Pimps, drug addicts, yeah. And Sharp is someone who went on there. He allegedly was a pimp earlier in his life. And he's a huge deal in that scene too because he's won like player of the year, pimp of the year or whatever at these big conventions that they do and stuff, which I'll be honest, I'm kind of in the dark about how you get to be viewed as number one in that. What's the data? What's the metrics? Magic Don Juan was kind of like the king of that shit for a long time and is still like an icon in that game. But yeah, I saw him on Software Underbelly. Somebody reached out and said, would you icon in that game but uh yeah i saw him on a on on

softwood underbelly somebody reached out and said would you be down to have sharp on i had him on it does like two million views right away and i just was like oh you know i should we already had like a couple different hosts like ad and t-roll on the channel and i just figured you know why don't i just try to get this guy to do episodes on my channel because i really i the thing that came to mind immediately was like i need to see this guy talking to women. Like, I just really want to know what the energy is going to be like, you know? And that's what we did just from the start. And to be honest, he was a little aggressive early on.

Like, he was really, really just kind of talking over them and just like barking on them. And I feel like he's gotten a shitload better on camera where he's having like, you know, real mature conversations with a lot of them but then at the same time i mean he has a lot of triggers like if you call him a bitch oh my god the girls keep calling him bitch but but in like a girl way of being like bitch and oh my god he just gets so fucking pissed but yeah i mean he's been he's definitely one of the biggest uh things that we got going on the channel it's just been insane seeing the way that people gravitate him too much,

so much. And I've been in Vegas with him and seeing the way it is on the street where there are a shitload of sharp wannabes who are on various degrees of the spectrum. Some of them almost have like his look. Some of them just kind of are trying to talk like him and trying to talk to girls all reckless on the street and shit. But I mean,

we couldn't go anywhere without him getting stopped left and right to take photos it was fucking insane yeah and then what's what's happening in his life like is has he made this transition to legit business and and how is that changing him is i mean he's a very mysterious guy we really like i facetime him sometimes and he'll be the middle of the night and he's just like with his daughter he's like fucking apparently got a kind of normal life that i don't even really like ask that much about but he uh he definitely keeps an aura of mystery but yeah he's definitely on the up and up as far as the illegal side of things i believe at this point yeah yeah yeah yeah he's just really interesting character you guys should check him out you guys have these great guys i love you

got i would love to get him out here to talk to you. Yeah, let's do it. Oh, my God. No, I'd love to have a conversation. I'm just curious about that life. But also, Duno, AD, T-Rell, all those guys are just fucking... Yeah, you guys have got something really cool going on. Are you on to Flaco yet? No.

Oh, my God. Send me something. I'm sure you two will recommend him soon enough. He's a portly guy from North from north dakota well he's actually from liberia um which is just the gnarliest part of africa apparently because that's where general butt naked is from do you remember him from the vice documentary yeah yeah oh my god he's a comedian that guy is the fucking pastor at the church that this kid flocco grew up going to for real i guess yeah but then he moved to north dakota when he was young

and then we've got him on the channel and i've never met anyone who is less afraid of having a controversial opinion in my fucking life he's off the chain with it oh that's he's he's just like what are some of his hot takes well like people uh getting uh thrown in prison like rappers and stuff and he'll just be like hey lock him up like up. He's fully wishing prison upon them based on the accusations. So we're trying to coach him into it. These are just accusations. He hasn't even gone to trial yet. You can't be wishing prison upon people.

That's crazy. Yeah. And he knew General Butt Naked. I think if no jumper doesn't work out, he might end up in General Butt Naked's army. You got to get him. You got to get General Butt Naked. Oh, my God. my god was that not the most time have you not seen this guy he's an unbelievable he's like a standard comedian they did a doc on him where they interview him like in africa like doing comedy right like this is the guy we're talking about yeah and he would talk about how he would

he would eat a baby uh before battle yeah he would just consume a baby. Yeah. Which was kind of troubling. You're an insane human being. Liberia is... What? Yeah, no, it's Africa. But didn't like America play a role in the creation of Liberia? I don't know. But it was also like warlords.

We did, right? Yeah, I'm not sure. Conflict times? Yeah. Yeah, I have no idea. You have all these guys under the no jumper banner. You ever get afraid

if they say something that it can affect the company? Well, we don't really make that big a percentage of our money from like advertisers or anything. So even if somebody were to try to kind of get us canceled, I don't know how much it would really do. But yeah, there's definitely been times like AD when he first came in, like we were doing the news

and we were talking about 6ix9ine snitching and he just looks right at the camera and he's like, well, if it was me, if I couldn't get to him i would kill his mom and i'm just like okay that's gonna fall into the category of things we can't say you gotta be a dad about it there are things that you know when you're dealing with people they they he didn't know and now he. And now he's much more professional about saying stuff like that. So there's a lot of blocks, learning blocks over time. I caught that AD China Mac beef to friendship.

I thought that was really cool. Yeah. Right? Yeah, it was cool. They had a little squabble or something like that. And then, because we had China Mac on the pod. Oh, wow. Back on Brilliant Idiots.

Oh, right, right. Yeah, and this was, like, years ago. But I thought it was cool. They, like, worked it out as dudes. It didn't get violent besides, you know, the hands. And then they're, like, doing content together, doing the cooking show. It seems odd to me that they were beefing over food vlogs

in the first place. This is your fault. I mean, I had a lot of people putting it on me. I mean, I guess China Mac is just kind of protective of his food vlogging content. But yeah, I mean, it was overall pretty good because, yeah, AD's been doing these food vlogs that are just going crazy. They just did one at Blue Face's soul food restaurant and shit. Right. Shit's going crazy.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, shit, man. I'm ready to end the podcast, but we need Lennon to wrap it up. I'm just taking a fucking 50 wiper back there. How was that? I took the longest pee of my life. Was it really a 50 wiper?

It was not a 50 wiper. 50 wipers when you go wipe 50 times. When you go what? You wipe 50 times. Yeah, I got that. He's a one wiper. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't wipe. I don't wipe.

That's how clean his system is built. Yeah, I trust myself, bro. he's a one wiper yeah yeah no I don't wipe I don't wipe I don't wipe yeah that's how clean his system is built yeah trust myself bro he's that Jewish yeah actually not at all okay

guys thank you so much for coming tell them where they can find you even though they probably already know Adam 22

and Lennon the Plug on many socials yeah you can find her Instagram on my Instagram if. You can find her Instagram on my Instagram if you can't find it. And nojumper.com,

onlyplugtalk.com. Watch our porn. Her podcast launching soon. Oh, my God. I hear you. Oh, really? Deep, real conversations with sex workers.

Yes? Adam bought me a freaking full, legitimate podcast set up for Valentine's Day and is making me start a podcast. Wow. And telling everyone about it so that I have to do it. Are you interested in it?

I am interested in it, but I usually need a push. But he's very pushing. What are you nervous about doing it? I don't know. People like her on camera, but she kind of got out of the loop of just doing consistent content. Really, you were never that consistent. I feel like I don't know what the kids are talking about now that I'm a mom.

I feel like I'm going to say the wrong thing. You guys are okay with being controversial and hated. I cannot handle it. That's my fear. I think it would be good. I just need to fight with you more so that I have stuff to talk about on the podcast. We need to beef. Content, content, content. I'll throw myself on the podcast. We need to beef. Content, content, content.

I'll throw myself on the floor. Well, we're going to beef with you at Flavorant. Yeah, that's going to be our first beef. Okay. My first beef. Guys, this has been the Milky Mommy's podcast. The Mommy Milky's podcast. Guys, make sure you check out No Jumper.

Check out Lena and check them both out together. I will not because you guys are my friends and I don't want to watch you have sex just yet that's fine deal thank you peace thank you