Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - How Schulz Made The Wildest Netflix Special Ever

Episode Date: December 18, 2020

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What up, people? Shulte here, and you guys are about to listen to a clip from our weekly Patreon episode. If you want to sign up to our Patreon, support the flagrancy, support what we are doing, completely uncensored, flagrant content, you go to patreon.com slash flagrant2. With no more interruptions, here is the exclusive clip. But what I was saying, as far as the phony shit, you being in LA with execs and all these people in power, if you know they're frauds and they're corny, how do you do that? And this is somebody who can help your career. You know what?

I've done everything in my power to not feel like I have to rely on anybody for my success anymore. not feel like I have to rely on anybody for my success anymore. So now when I enter relationships with people, I don't need them for what I want to do. Like the whole goal was build this so that we can have control of what we do with our careers and have put stuff on a platform that doesn't have some sort of middleman that allows me to upload it or not. Right. And now when I enter business with like people in entertainment,

you know, Netflix or whatever it is, that relationship is very different. I've had the best time. But is that a level thing? It is a level thing. But if you're a young comedian, that wouldn't be your. No. But what I would say is you got to do what I did, like depending on how you want to navigate the business. But like one of the things I'm most proud of of the Netflix special is like we got to create the special we wanted to create. specials like we got to create the special we wanted to create and the only reason that we're able to do that is because we built up so much equity netflix was down to allow me to create the special that we wanted to create right if you're a brand new comic they're not willing to

roll the dice on that but we built up that equity ourselves we built up the following we built up the interest and we built up the show so that's what i would tell anybody it's like stop you know hoping that networks will be charitable. Create your own charity and then enter this business relationship. And those relationships are amazing. I can't say so far. I mean, we're, you know, recording this before the special technically has dropped. So fingers crossed everything works out.

But so far, I can't complain about a single thing from them. They've been incredibly supportive. Now, that's not going to be a young comics first time on Netflix experience. So I can't complain about a single thing from them. They've been incredibly supportive. Now that's not going to be a young comics first time on Netflix experience. So I can't speak to that. But what I can speak to is building up enough power and equity where you can have that relationship with the people you do business with. So, so it's like,

you're not being fake with me. You're just being supportive of me. But I also create some dope shit that you want to support. And back. Yeah. I just, I just see a lot of times, especially walking around now that I just see a lot of times, especially walking around,

now that I'm in a content business, being with people who can help or hurt you, my energy changes. I try to catch myself. Yeah. You know what I mean? I try to like, don't do this because you know he can help you with this.

Stay, like, walk in the room, be the same guy. But also know who this guy is and how he can help you and how he can benefit you. But don't switch because then you feel like, man, I really don't like this dude, but I know he can help me with this and he can help me with that. You won't switch when you don't need them.

Right. But you got to get to that point. You got to get to that point. You got to get there. Who's willing to get there? I don't know if you're there. Are you there? No, I'm not to the point where it's just like I could walk.

But I'm to the point where it's like if I don't like a project, I don't have to take it. Whereas before, agents would send me on these auditions. I'd be like, this sucks, but I'll take it. Now, I might take it just to do the work. But it's like, if I don't want to do it, I don't do it. And I've told them, if it won't work with my podcast schedule, I'm not doing it. That's a great place to be in. I remember I told my agent, he said, Jeffrey, what's the Jeffrey, Jim Jeffries has an NBC show coming out.

They want you to audition. And I was like, yeah, where does it film? And they were like, LA. I was like, I can't do it. And then he was like, yeah. And he was like, do you understand how much money? So you're not nervous. And I was just like, I understand.

And I understand what I'm doing now is what I want to do. And it's maybe not the same money, but it's close enough that I'm good. And he just couldn't like. Yeah, I think I would be too paranoid not to take it. Because I'm... But you can't give up your thing. Like when it's yours, if it's comparable pay and it's what you want to do, I'm not doing some shit I don't want to do

for comparable pay. Just for the check. For what? If it's level up and if it works with this and that's what he's brilliant at is creating the leverage. I always say life is a leverage game. His leverage is always,

look, you can come or go. I'm ascending no matter what. And they see that. Everybody could say it. With him, they could see it. Yeah. My strategy is create the product, create the heat. And then if there is a deal to be done, let's do the deal. And then that deal looks a lot more like a partnership than it does like I'm working for somebody. And that's important to you. Well, because I get whatever i want out of the deal like even when we were negotiating this we started the negotiation but my feeling was i have to be able to continue to do whatever i do on the internet with complete and total freedom you know you hear a lot of times like uh athletes or musicians talk about like these like slave contracts yeah and i understand

i never understood what that was because i'm like, you're making so much money. Why are you a slave? It doesn't make any sense. But then I started to go, oh. Control. Yeah, you're a quote unquote slave because you don't have the freedom to do what you want with your life

outside of that contract. So the most important thing for me was I need to be able to keep doing me. Right. And I realized the only way I could do that is if I gave finished products to these networks. Because if the product is finished and I'm already profiting off of it and things are great, they don't have as much leverage to offer me stuff. They can only offer me more eyeballs or more money.

But if I already have eyeballs and money, you're offering me more. You can't take my freedom for a little more you know if there was another league that LeBron could play for where he could make a little bit less money but he had the freedom to do whatever he wants the NBA don't have a lot of leverage so would you call that the Chappelle is that what he did recently well I mean you're talking about

when you create your own content you control everything is that something where I feel like dave i feel like they i might know dave ignored the bag he went to africa came back and now he has this he's a free thinker he says whatever he wants he's electric every time he opens his mouth now um i just feel like a lot of times you don't i think as a comedian how me looking at him is he's he's one of few that can do that. Not every comedian can do that. Yeah. He built enough. I would say he.

Yes. Equity. Yeah. He built enough equity before where you're willing to do business with him in any way you can. Right. Whereas there are some people who like I was talking to another, but, you know, Neil Brennan, right?

So, Neil, there's a show I really want Neil to do, and I've been telling him to do it forever. It's so fucking funny. I won't say it now, but I really think and it's about him and it's just it's perfect for how he's funny.'s a great device and uh he's like yeah i might just like write a treatment and then we could like pitch it to a network and i'm like neil neil now just make one sketch of it make that sketch funny then make another sketch and make the people so interested and curious and find it so hilarious that they're begging for more and then make 16 weeks of it. And then by then you've proven the product, you know it works,

you have all the leverage in every bit of the negotiation that you walk into, and you can go anywhere with this thing or you can keep creating it on your own. Why give it to a network and then have them look at you and go, well, we don't know if this is going to work or not. So we have to create a deal that's a little bit more advantageous to us and protects us, which I understand because they're a business they got to protect themselves too right but if i show you that the people love the cookies they're gonna sell whether they're with you or they're with me you know like what is the first thing they ask is shark tank how much money you making on this yeah right off top and if it's not

profitable they usually don't want it i'm out it's not profitable but i think you have you have the recipe i think you have the blueprint a lot of people don't want to see it through they just want to create and let go and that's i find myself like that right now like i just want to create it and it'd be like all right it's going to come back something's good from it but you're like no create it stay with it build on it keep building keep building and then you'll get to a point where you don't need anybody's input because the people are going to respond to it you know you got something good that's hard yeah that's hard for a guy who's not a comedian a guy who's just coming off the field working for barso man you you constantly have to be in this mind frame like what can i create what

can i do are the people going to like it you got to push it out there and like you guys have stage work i don't i've never been on stage in my life. Yeah. So I don't know. What do you love doing? I love radio. See, that's what I always focus in is like, what do I love to do and what do I want to do? And then I build everything off of those places.

And then I start analyzing the marketplace and I go, what is the marketplace missing? You know, but like, what do I love to do? It always got to start there because i know i could work harder than anybody if i love it right if i don't love it i don't even care to do it yeah i'll stop some shit that's successful if i don't love it you know what i mean like we can make a sketch that everybody loves if i do not have a good time on that sketch and it's boring i'm not doing this no more like i could make money doing anything yeah i choose to do the shit that I love so that's what I would focus on you if you love radio

you're great at it you are naturally great at talking to folks with a microphone in front of you so it's like if that's the thing you love what are the ways you can continue to do that and get even better at that and find ways that more people can find out about

it that's what i've i've focused on yeah i think i get jealous of comedians because you guys get to work out your shit yeah all the time yeah we always have an outlet like being already like where i'm on radio from seven to nine my brain's not even on bro so i'm stumbling and mumbling so i'm waking trying to wake myself up but i'm not up to like eight o'clock yeah i'm blue a whole hour just me being in zombie mode yeah comedians you guys get to be on and vet and talk to the crowd the crowd gets to talk to you guys you guys kind of you guys have that that release you know my release is for like two hours then i'm hoping to back up and even on social media you don't mind having a camera in front of your face but you don't feel like i just like that engagement that you guys get constant

engagement instant engagement from the crowd. Yeah. If you're a content provider, that's everything. Yeah. Have you ever tried, maybe not doing stand-up, but like doing the pod in front or the radio in front of like a live audience? We've talked about that. It's just a logistics thing, what that would look like,

how we would get it done. But I just like that interaction with the crowd. I've watched you do it. I've even seen your stuff. Like, I've seen you guys. You can tell you guys are in your set. And then, like, especially you, you're a bag on somebody in the first row. And that just spawned, that just spiraled into a whole fucking rant.

But that energy will make you go home with something like, man, that was amazing. You know, this fucking Asian sitting down with this Irish dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You you know how did that date happen you know and to go down that and to constantly have that that kind of you know being being fed all that energy and that content being a content provider it's hard to get that because we're we're reactionary i'm wondering if like there could be something with callers for you callers i was reacting to callers like because that is someone that is feeding you something

that you can react to. We do. We do react to a lot of the callers. But I think for me, I wish more women called out show. I love women from... Women are... They vary.

Guys are kind of like, oh, we're all kind of same in some way. Women, they just come from different angles. Wouldn't you easily do like a ladies ladies day or every Thursday we take? I would love to. I would love to do.

I wish I would talk to more women. Do you have a chick on the show? The last one we had was JSB, Julie Stewart-Bakes. I don't know her. She's a sportscaster. She's doing her own thing now, too. I think she's with Pluto or something like that. Right.

Because sometimes that helps man just having like a female voice i don't know i i love having a female voice in the room always like it just always it's dope because like the way the conversation goes you're considering what she is thinking and then i think when like the female listeners is taking it in like you never want to have a female co-host we don don't have a specific co-host, but Taylor is in a lot of our episodes. Oh, girl. And she takes notes,

but we also give her a mic because she's hilarious. To me... Yeah, female energy just... Yeah. Maybe it is just you're considering the female perspective when she's sitting right there.

Yeah. But the female energy is just... And they got to be able to roll with the jokes. Yeah. You can't roll with the jokes, get the fuck out. Yeah. If they roll with is just, and they got to be able to roll with the jokes. Yeah. You can't roll with the jokes, get the fuck out. Yeah. But if they roll with the jokes,

then it's just fun, yo. Do you say it just like that? Yeah. Do you? Yeah. You can't roll with the jokes, get the fuck out. Yeah.

But she's the best. Barbara. Yeah. She's a wild girl, bro. Yeah. Like, she's just funny. Yeah. She is funny.

She's a funny girl. Yeah, Karen Feehan. You know Karen. Yeah, yeah. She's awesome. She's been on the show a bunch. And she's sharp. She's witty. Butitty but then like you see her take some punches you're like are we gonna get in trouble for that oh we good but just but i've never had a part of a corporation you have

to worry about like hr departments and she have a real hr department yeah and it was was wild now it's not even hr twitter come for your ass yeah you know it's social media come for your ass if you show out of bounds you know i mean yeah we kind of like barstool kind of has like to sling it or just serious exam or whatever you say anything you want to do whatever you want but when you see yourself say something that can get your ass canceled like oh that could get me canceled right twitter twitter is where people go to die and bleed like they would drag you so um like talking to a woman or having that kind of back and forth jokes,

you're always cautious. Like, man, was that the line? She smiled. She laughed. Man, fuck the line.

Go past that shit. See? Yeah, just go past it. I wish I had that. That is the foundation of this podcast. That's what it was founded on.

Literally, yeah. I wish I had those nuts. Yeah. I don't know how I had those nuts. I think you can have them if you're working for yourself. Oh. That's easier because at the end of the day,

the only people who can fire us are the people who listen. Sure. Right? Like, we can't fire ourselves. But if our listeners are like, nah, we don't like this shit. And our listeners would fire us if we weren't flagrant. That's what they're signing up for. Yeah.

I said, I was on air the other day, and I said that Tim Tebow was like Homelander from The Voice. And people came for my ass. What did they say? People just like, oh, you're comparing Tim Tebow to be a racist, homophobic, da-da-da-da. I was like, no. I just, Homelander, anytime he's in front of the camera, he was fake. I just feel like Tim Tebow's the same way.

And it was like, people thought it was the worst analogy. Really? People came for my ass. And I was so dumbfounded by it. Yeah, but you know what we've learned those people, you weed them out. The people who get you, who are your fan fans, will be like, no, that's funny.

Some people got it. Is he fake? I've been around him. That's all an act? No, it's not all. He works his dick off, super passionate about whatever comes out of his mouth, like overly passionate. Yeah.

But I just felt like – so there was one story. I think he had a bad practice before I got to the Jets. He had a bad practice, and the media was just waiting for him outside the gates. He knew it, and so he took his shirt off and ran by the media. They didn't ask him questions. They just showed him jogging with no shirt on. Most quarterbacks, you throw eight picks. You throw four picks in a practice, you're somber, you're upset.

You know, you got to address the media. He wanted to deflect all that by just taking his shirt off and fucking just running by the media. So the media didn't even talk about the four picks he threw. They were just like, Tim Tebow's in amazing shape. Yeah. It totally deflected from the practice. That's a move but it was also like bro like stand in the fire take a shit like the rest of us got to yes it also shows he knows how the media works correct

he acts like he's just this like sweet little christian boy but you gotta motivate and manipulate got a little ellen in him yes i got you is he pounding puss or is he a virgin? No, if you Google his, I think if you Google his girlfriend in college, she was like a smoke show. Supposedly, he never touched her. Head? Supposedly. I think it's bullshit because she was gorgeous. He probably got wild head, yo.

Yeah. Oh, he's probably a soaker. A soaker? What does that mean? You know Mormons, they soak. What is that? They just put the pee in, but they don't move up and down. Yeah, they just soak it up. What? That's what Mormons do. I. What is that? They just put the pee in, but they don't move up and down. Yeah, they just soak it up.

What? That's what Mormons do. I've never heard that shit. Yeah. Hold on. There's no way. Hold on. Break this down.

You never heard of soakers? No. I mean, it's a pretty descriptive term. I'm surprised y'all can't really put this together. So you insert. Your penis. And then. You just lay on top of her.

And then leave it there. Don't move because moving is the act of sex correct inserting is not it's called soaking but how do they get around it legally that's what because you don't move it's not a verb you're not fucking you're not fucking if you don't move it's not an action but you still penetrate you penetrate it yeah but it's like placing the dog in the bun it's only only a, that's the wrong analogy. I had it, then I lost it. No, I don't know.

That's what they call it. I have buddies who are Mormons. It's bullshit, but. I have buddies who went to BYU, and they was like, bro, yeah, we would soak all the time. I was like, what the fuck is soaking? Yeah, we would just slide it in, but we wouldn't move. So what would you do? We would just kind of just kiss, but I couldn't do the hump.

I wouldn't do the hump. I mean, this is hilarious. Those are like the Jewish girls I grew up with that would only give head or give ass. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's the same bullshit. White girls are amazing. White girls, I'm a virgin, but like sucked 50 dicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and got fucked in their ass.

All the Catholic school girls got fucked in their ass. They thought God wouldn't know. That shit is so arrogant to try to trick God. God not at the pearly gates just like waiting there watching your fucking gaping asshole walk through. Come on. But soaking is different because soaking is penetration. Yeah, but it's not fucking. Did they do that with or without a condom?

And you're not coming. I don't know. Yeah, you can't come. You pull out and you come. Yeah, but you got to pull out and beat off. You can't come and like you just put it in and stay still.'s the lube to beat off i don't know yeah yeah yo this is crazy i can't believe that some call it soaking others parking marinating or the provo float or my personal favorite the dock and talk and uh doc that's so good no thrusting no grinding

no climax just pop it in and hold the fuck still. It's like planking, only your dick is inside of a Mormon. That's Urban Dictionary. It's a real thing. I play with a lot of dudes who went to like, like I said, went to BYU and all that stuff, and they would talk about it. They're like, yeah, we used to soak all the time. And the first time I said it, I heard it.

I was like, oh, like, you know, that's a salt bath. It was like, no. They're like, no, that's a salt bath. He was like, no. They were like, no, bro. We would put the pee in there and we would just be still. You think they would brag about how many girls they soaked with? Like, nah, bro, I killed her this week. Five different bitches I soaked with. I'm out here like motherfucking Scotchgard or whatever that shit is.

Scotch Brite, bro. I don't get it. Can you be a soaking slut? Yeah. So you're just getting soaked out every night, but you're not technically fucking. Nope. But Hyman destroyed. To pieces.

To pieces. To pieces. Bro, that's crazy. I just couldn't imagine setting that up. Like, hey, you know, we soaking tonight. I don't know what the fuck you think going down. Hey, get the Mr. Bubble, bitch. We are soaking tonight, bitch fuck you think going down get the Mr. Bubble bitch we are soaking the night bitch

it is going down imagine getting an STD and you didn't even nut that is crazy bro you can get STD soaking soaking transmitted disease that is suck what happens if you don't fuck it up your soap game is so piss

you don't even have a time to soak. You just nut as soon as you get in there. That's what I would do. I feel like I get it as close as possible so I'm nutted on the insert. So it would just be one stroke. Because you technically get one stroke. No, but you don't want to break the rules either. The rules don't want to break the rules either.

Both of them are. I'm not breaking the rules. I'm soaking and then I'm unsoaking. No. You're not allowed to nut. Yeah. And I don't think Mormons are allowed to masturbate. I'm not breaking the rules. I'm soaking and then I'm unsoaking. No. You're not allowed to nut. Yeah. And I don't think Mormons are allowed to masturbate if I'm not. Yeah, they can't masturbate either.

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I'm so fucking proud of Andrew because I came up with this guy, but also so proud of Mark, so proud of Alex. Dove, you're here. It's your first one. My first Netflix one. Nah, but it was unbelievable. When you saw all the work, I would come in. I tried to take over as much podcast shit as I could because I knew he was working hard,

but I saw it translated. It wasn't like work that didn't show all the work I saw show in the special it was so fucking so good there were so many times

where I just like grabbed his shoulder like that's so good they're not even gonna get it thank you man well thank you guys you did it your own way bro

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