Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - HOW TO NOT PAY TAXES

Episode Date: July 16, 2019

This week Andrew, Akaash, and Kaz discuss: Westbrook to the Rockets, white girls dancing better than black girls, how to not pay taxes, this week’s flagrant thoughts, Ben Simmons and more. INDULGE!...!

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Tell the world. We love friends. Tell the world. We love you. Keep it tight. What's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of Flagrant 2. No easy buckets. Analysis by assholes. Water cooler commentary for your sports needs. I'm Andrew Schultz. I'm here with Akash Singh, real life cast, Alex Media, and Eden on the ones and twos. And we have a very important message to make. I'm not sure if we spoke about this on the Patreon, Akash. Was it the Patreon that we spoke about?
Starting point is 00:00:54 The kid who- Patreon, OG Smurf. OG Smurf's sister. Cousin. Or cousin. Yeah. Had a fucked up liver. Needed a liver transplant.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Yes. Or was going to die. Yes. So he came out to the Patreon. He came out to the people. He was asking for a liver. Needed a liver transplant or was going to die. So he came out to the Patreon. He came out to the people. He was asking for a liver. Now, turns out a couple days later
Starting point is 00:01:13 someone dies and then his cousin gets their liver. Right. What? Just the way you say it. Your inflection is funny. Someone died for that to happen. Somebody has to die. That's how transplants work. That's true.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Okay? This isn't Slovakia where you can just take your fucking liver and you wake up in an ice bath. Okay? This is the United States of America. All right? That's what they should do
Starting point is 00:01:37 before they kick the Mexicans out is take their organs. That's why it's ice. You know I got it. Y'all thought it was gonna be little I thought it was gonna get real fucking dark And I was like ah There we go Good save
Starting point is 00:01:53 So check it But then OG Smurf told us Within those What three days I caught Within those three days Hundreds of patrons
Starting point is 00:02:02 Reaching out Saying yo My blood type is O positive yeah i got you with a piece of my liver bro which is crazy great then just got a message today i screenshot it because i want to give my man's credit i want to give my man's credit where's he at where's he at where's he at well i don't know where the fuck he's at we're not gonna take too much time in the group chat no no this is this was a different one but still a dude hit me today and he was like yo i'm o positive ask if og's i've reached out to og's brother i haven't heard from him
Starting point is 00:02:35 but if he needs a liver or he needs a piece of liver i got you that's crazy bash from discord the guy who made the discord texting me he, he said, I'm going to just drink a mine anyway. So give it up. Yo, so just think about that. What an amazing community to be part of. Motherfuckers are giving organs. I'm so proud, man. I'm so proud. When we said the army provides, we meant the army provides.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And it's just an amazing fucking thing. I'm not going to lie. I thought your cousin was going to die, bro. I mean, honestly, when you said it, I thought it was a an amazing fucking thing. I'm not going to lie. I thought your cousin was going to die, bro. I mean, honestly, when you said it, I thought it was a wrap for your cousin. It's like, damn. Three days later. When it gets to the point
Starting point is 00:03:11 when you're asking for total strangers on the page, it's like, okay. Yeah, so here's the thing, and you know what? I mean, it's fucking dire at that point. Your cousin might have fucked up because he took the first liver he was offered. Right?
Starting point is 00:03:22 You don't know what that liver went through. We had some assholes out there. They could have had a much better liver, a stronger liver. Listen, Akash probably has never drunk in his life. His liver is probably pristine. Akash got the worst health of any human being. My lungs ain't shit.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I'll keep my lungs. They ain't good for nobody, but I've been my liver good. Have you said this before? Did you have the immune system of the other Indians? No, you said that. Maybe that was on a Native American. Yeah, you got the other Indians' immune system of the other Indians? No, you said that. I said that. Maybe that'll go on a joke of mine. Yeah, you got the other Indians immune system. I've got stage getting sick, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Always sick. No, that's right. So your liver, you got to keep. When I go to your house, I don't take blankets. I just sleep on a couch. Son, I had a bit in fucking the Toronto show, man. Yeah. It was a little wild.
Starting point is 00:04:05 We're releasing it for the inside joke shit. Maybe I shouldn't talk about it. You guys can see it on the inside jokes. The Toronto show man. Yeah, it was It was a little wild Inside joke shit. Maybe I shouldn't talk about you guys could see it on the inside jokes You'll see it on the clad Indians came through in Bangladesh represented. I have Bram live dash out there for sure We'll get to that in a minute but I want to talk about OG smurf and how fucking dope it is that like Like what we've created in a community that we're all part of did like literally everybody listen to this right now This is nuts, right? Yeah, there are people they sign up to this right now, this is nuts, right? Yeah. There are people, they sign up to be on these lists in the hospitals, right?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah. For years waiting for an organ to save their lives, right? They're on dialysis and shit for years. John Q is about this entire thing. Boom. If John Q a patron, he good. Ain't no moving. So basically, you have this situation where most people in the world that need these organs,
Starting point is 00:04:47 they end up fucking dying because they don't get them. And everybody listening to this podcast right now, you got another liver out there. You got maybe a few hundred. How fucking unbelievable is that? All right. Don't get carried away. I mean. Because you're going to have a bunch of niggas drinking wild crazy like
Starting point is 00:05:05 oh, I'm good. As long as they pay their $5 a month to the picture you will get you a liver. You know what I mean? You cancel that membership, you might be canceling your life. It's up to you, dog. That's not even in the captain privileges. From now on, if you want body parts
Starting point is 00:05:22 you got to be at least a lieutenant. He was a captain. OG was a captain. He was a captain. He pulled up the price a little bit. OG Smart was a captain. OG Smart was a captain. That's why he deserves all that shit. Facts.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Don't be out here with the infantry talking about, I need a heart. I need $25. You could get a pinky toe. Yo, infantry could get a pinky toe out here. You get cuticles out there, bitch. So real talk i thought it was an absolutely amazing oh yeah that we were capable of and like whoa so cool so keep us posted about your cousin let's make sure everything's good and if anybody else needs some shit obviously
Starting point is 00:05:56 you know where to look man wow that's from the family bro come to the flagrant black market you're ready to start that shit next oh we need to start doing that like we should like sponsor some love you know we're trying to get we're trying to get bitcoins on this bitch find us some bitcoins out here yeah wait you want to buy a bit bitcoin i'm probably gonna at some point invest a little bit yeah wait till it's a drop again and then you cop it if it does what if somebody wants to drop they always drop but the thing is that with bitcoin how what made me feel like it might be the real deal is when Trump tweeted about how it wasn't. And he had a very calculated tweet.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Clearly, some people in power wrote that shit for him. And they were like, if you look at it, there's a series of tweets. And it don't sound nothing like Trump. And if you can bring them tweets up. Trump tweets in a very, maybe like sixth, 6th, 7th grade level of English, right? No, you're giving them way too much. Fair. Okay. But this shit was kind of elaborate, and he had a
Starting point is 00:06:51 specific point, and he was coming right at the Bitcoin. Is this the shit right here? Yeah, look at this. Similarly, Trump ain't saying similarly ever. I was about to say, that's definitely not his vocab. I'm not a fan of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air. Unregulated crypto assets can facilitate unlawful behavior.
Starting point is 00:07:11 When would Trump ever say that sentence? Unregulated crypto assets would facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity. That's not wrong, actually. Real quick question. U.S. dollar also based on thin air. We'll get to that. But let's finish these, right? So it's like similarly Facebook's Libra virtual currency,
Starting point is 00:07:33 and this is where I think Trump was really going after because Facebook is starting its own digital currency. They have their own cryptocurrency called Libra, right? And that's where shit gets fucked up because Facebook has more people on it than the United States has people in their country. If you have a currency where they could operate, everybody on Facebook could be trading money, spending money. Not only does
Starting point is 00:07:52 the dollar go down, what is the security that you'll be paying taxes on any of that money? What is the security that these goods will be exchanged? If I want to exchange goods from someone from another country, why don't I just pay you in Libra instead of US dollarS. dollar? It is a dangerous – it's a potentially very dangerous thing, right?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Okay. So because at least when you have to exchange money, you got to go through a bank. You got to go through Western Union. You got to go do something. You want to pay somebody in China, you got to go do – you know how easy it is to Facebook message somebody some fucking Libra probably? Boom. So anyway, we have only one real currency in the usa and is stronger than ever both dependable and reliable it is by far the most dominant currency anywhere in the world and it
Starting point is 00:08:30 will always stay that way it's called the united states dollar tell me that's not a promo ad that's really creepy that's really creepy because it looks very copy and pasted and this looks like somebody who who said that out of being afraid. Like, oh shit, this is really happening. It's not afraid. It's smart. It's being told. Yeah. We assume that the people with power, like the president is the most powerful person in the world.
Starting point is 00:08:54 No, absolutely not. There are elite motherfuckers who are worth billions of dollars that influence what the president does. Now, Trump happens to be one of these motherfuckers. So he's a little less influenced than, let's's say An Obama or like a Kennedy who like well? I guess Kennedy's came from some money, but like presidents who aren't like part of that billionaire club like the bushes do what the bushes want Yeah, they already believe So the real people who make make the moves are the Soros is the Koch brothers like these motherfuckers who actually got the bread Yeah, right, so they hit up my man and they were like yo that that and Trump
Starting point is 00:09:29 was like yes daddy yeah everybody answers somebody and it's just I don't know how we got to this I don't know just let my hair be shitty I just wanted some Bitcoin and then we got here we need flagrant coins, son. We need a currency. Oh, yeah. So you brought up a very good point, right? Everybody's like, Bitcoin's not worth anything.
Starting point is 00:09:51 There's nothing backing it. Yeah. Right? And you brought up the very point, which is the dollar. So it's the United States dollar. Right? Yeah. At the end of the day, the US dollar, right, used to be up into the 70s backed by the gold
Starting point is 00:10:02 standard, right? So you could literally trade in your dollars for gold. Now, you can do that now because you can just go buy gold. So I don't see how that's that different. But this is what I would say to you guys, and I'm sure you've already gotten here. I think the difference real quick is the values aren't tied together. Like the value of gold can skyrocket. Dollar stays the same, vice versa.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Right. So there was a point in time where the value of the dollar was the value of gold. Whatever the value of gold, and then the dollar would fluctuate that way. Got you. Here's what I would say about gold. Why does that have any value? That's exactly what I was going to say. Even back then, there's
Starting point is 00:10:38 another finance book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad, if y'all want to read it, but I just re-read it. That's one of the things he talks about. Money used to be backed by gold. It's more secure, I guess. But even gold is just a value. Money is, the sentence is money is whatever we agree it is. So if we agree that these cryptos are valuable, then it becomes something of value. There's a great episode of South Park.
Starting point is 00:10:59 There's real quick. There's a good point. It is whatever we agree it is. But what helps us agree on it is the difficulty of replication, right? It is difficult to get gold or at least perceivably difficult. We're like, you got to be in a river with a pan and fucking Levi's and shit. And hopefully you find some like there's a whole Discovery Channel show, right? It's like, this is difficult to get.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Therefore, you have a piece of, you know, you have a gold necklace. You're like, yo, it took some white guys a long time to find this. So it's valuable. If we just go straws are currency, anybody could get a straw anywhere. This shit not going to have value. So the thing with crypto is I guess they've done it so that the amount of hours it would take you to what I believe is called mine the crypto. That amount of time to actually mine it would equate to value. Like you'd have to spend X amount of dollars.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I think there's only a finite amount too. I think there is, but I think you can also create more. It's just essentially costs. So the fact that it costs creates. It has value. It creates the value. What were you saying? I was saying there was an episode of South Park that goes directly to that,
Starting point is 00:12:06 where fucking aliens come to South Park, and they're trying to make them join this elite planet club, and they make up some fake alien cash or whatever, and the whole fucking county goes crazy, killing each other over this fake-ass alien cash, and the aliens come down, and they're like, why are you fighting each other? This was a test.
Starting point is 00:12:22 This is nothing. This is a thing of space cash or space jail. We just made all this shit up, and you guys gave it value, and then they failed and kept them on the shitty planets or whatever Earth was at. But yeah, what gives gold value? It's just like, oh, this is shiny. Let me give you the best example for it. The casino. You go up to the teller or you go up to the guy at the table
Starting point is 00:12:46 and you go, hey, can I have $10,000 worth of chips? He gives you a meaningless plastic coin that has some writing on it, right? That if it says $500 on that coin, you guard that motherfucker with your life. It is immediately instilled value.
Starting point is 00:13:03 You give that to a human being and they'll look at it and go, oh, my God, thank you for giving me $500. Now, try to give that coin to somebody in Cambodia. They're not going to give a fuck. They're not going to Caesars anytime soon. I wonder if it would be a smart move for Vegas to have a universal poker chip currency that you can use anywhere in Vegas. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, you could take your chips from casino to casino and they accept it because those chips at the end of the day are all based on your dollars. Every time you're using a chip, you're not taking money out of our pocket.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yo, why the fuck? Because chips are so easy to replicate. Why don't people just replicate casino chips and then go into a casino and be like, yo, let me get my money. So a couple of- Well, another thing, casinos are wildly, wildly secure. So like when you walk out, like there's millions of people watching you on that shit. Like you wouldn't even make it past the- But if you can make-
Starting point is 00:13:58 He's saying if you can make counterfeits, you could just go in with chips. So I think what Kaz was getting at, which is, let's say you did have a counterfeit and you were caught oh yeah they'll murder you it's over like it's over and and they used to be back in the day you got murder you got taken down to the room downstairs now that it's all corporate you get locked up and casinos got a weird thing i didn't even know this was true they're not a public space if they don't like you you you're banned. They could just ban you. I didn't know that. With Blackjack, you know counting cards? You know that thing where
Starting point is 00:14:30 Ben Mesnerick, I think his name is, spoke about it. Yeah, it was like the first hangover. When homeboy Galifianakis goes into his Rain Man and knows how to count cards. You're still not guaranteed to win money. It's just a system of beating the odds. Yes. And basically find a way to calculate how many more cards worth 10 are in the deck and then from that you can you can do better right there's nothing illegal about counting cards right you are you're not cheating you're not
Starting point is 00:14:54 doing anything you can do with other people which would potentially be cheating but like it's truly just learning how to beat the game even then if i don't know i've played blackjack without knowing anything for like 20 bucks i ask people hey you think i should if I don't know, I've played blackjack without knowing anything for like 20 bucks. I ask people, hey, you think I should hit? That's right. The guy's not like, you're cheating. Get the fuck out of here. Matter of fact, if you do the wrong move, it affects him. So it is in a lot of ways a team game.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And a lot of times even the dealer is like not trying to tell you to hit or what, but they won't fuck you over. No, no, no. They'll give you the exact rules. So if I'm counting, you can win. So here's the thing. You learn how to count cards, right? You have a skill that is not in any way cheating.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yep. If the casino knows that you can count cars, they ban you from the casino. You'll get banned from all the casinos in Vegas. Now, imagine the NBA banned Steph Curry. Yeah. Right? They were just like, you're too good at hitting threes. You gamed the system.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I practiced these threes. We don't care if you practice. You hit too many, you're no longer in the league. Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy. Isn't it? It's a good point. It's like, I mean, I guess we love the rush of gambling,
Starting point is 00:15:59 but it's so funny that these casinos basically said, listen, if we can't fuck you in the ass you can't play the house always wins you're only allowed to get fucked in the ass yeah the house always wins that's the reason why
Starting point is 00:16:10 casinos even make it they make it like they will throw you out if you start winning not only do they always win by law they will always win by casino law
Starting point is 00:16:18 that's right yeah yeah yeah last thing before we move on I want to say this about bitcoin I don't know if this is right I don't know friends I have who are much smarter than me
Starting point is 00:16:24 were telling me at 600 I needed to buy this about Bitcoin. I don't know if this is right. I know friends I have who are much smarter than me were telling me it's $600 I needed to buy. But my money was too volatile. $12,000. Okay. And that's down from $30,000. Right. But when I think about it, everything is flat and connected with the internet. And I don't know if it's going to be Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:16:36 But we're all just so connected now all over the world. The idea of one currency, it seems so fucking inevitable to me. Of course. That we all just have a currency that we all exchange. Let me show you how on point you are, Akash. You ready? Yeah. This is how on point you are with what you just said.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Oh, here we go. Right? Yeah. That's the currency. You have a credit card. That was a very heavy stunt move. That wasn't just, I'm not going to pick it up and show the numbers. No, no, the numbers on the back side. That's what I'm saying. That was a very humble flex move. I wasn't just, I'm not going to pick it up and show the numbers. No, no, the numbers on the back side.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Okay, that's what I'm saying. That was a very humble flex right there with the Amex. That right there, not even the Amex. Actually, Amex sucks because outside of America. It's worthless. I love Amex's fucking brand. What they say, American Express. Everywhere you want to be.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And then you're in Toronto and they don't take it. And you're like, I guess I shouldn't be in this. It's a genius marketing tool, right? They're basically saying, nah, you don't want to go there. For a decade. If you can't use this card, you don't want to be there anyway. But I like Toronto, Amex. Nah, there's other places.
Starting point is 00:17:32 For a decade, Visa's entire marketing thing was, but they don't take American. They would talk about some dope-ass place, but they don't take American Express. That was all. And Amex was just like, keep talking about us. Being mad jealous. We're going to get Seinfeld. But what was that? They had Seinfeld. Who, Visa or Amex? Amex. That's all. And Amex was just like, keep talking about us. Being mad jealous. We're going to get Seinfeld. But what was that? They had Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Who, Visa or Amex? Amex. That's right. They just go get the big people. We won. We're good. They're Nike. Yeah, we get the rich people.
Starting point is 00:17:53 But annoying because you can't use it. Yeah. But the point is, if you have a credit card, let's say a Visa, that's universal currency. Never once did you convert your shit when you were in- You never needed to convert it, but there's a lot of places that are like no i need cash oh really i mean like you're at like a stand you know what i mean like go to the atm machine 100 right i'm saying as we gravitate towards digital like all over oh yeah like as more and more places have that little kiosk or a little swipe thing like if everything is this bro my dad used to have a joke this you know you have
Starting point is 00:18:26 your dad jokes yeah so my dad one of his dad jokes was when the check comes he goes do you accept cash all right yeah it's a dad but i'm right like because in his mind he comes from a generation where everyone accepted cash yeah i tried to get some ice cream at Van Leeuwen. Yeah. Very good ice cream place. Bomb, yeah. They refused cash. John, a lot of places in New York. A lot of places. This is new.
Starting point is 00:18:51 A lot of places in Williamsburg. What's that salad spot you love? Sweet Green. No cash. What? Yeah. Like, my office in Brooklyn, all, like, the little vegan hipster spots, it's a very, it's almost everything on that block is cashless.
Starting point is 00:19:04 They take, like, Apple Pay. They take the cards with the chip vegan hipster spots. It's a very, it's almost everything on that block is cashless. They take like Apple Pay. They take the cards with the chip, but no cash. All the dope new restaurants where you want to be don't take cash. Is that right? Yeah. So, so. That's why I started using the Apple Pay more. Because like a lot of actually, it's mad convenient.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And a lot of times the places that you go, they don't take cash. Even the ATMs, like they're starting to make the ATMs with no card insert. You literally just do the double click and then you're there. From your phone? Yeah, from your phone. That's genius. The face ID, all that shit. There's a Bank of America right down the street from my crib. You just run over there
Starting point is 00:19:38 and do the face ID and get cash real quick. These restaurants are so stupid with the cashless restaurants because the ones, the old G restaurants that stay in business it's only cash speak on it these places are thriving all the time because they don't pay as much taxes like oh we only made this much today so here cal say what explain what he's saying explain what he's saying so you know what alex is saying is if you only accept cash let's say you make ten thousand dollars in a day you can easily tell the government oh i only made
Starting point is 00:20:04 four thousand dollars today and how could they and there's no way for them to miss to disprove Let's say you make $10,000 in a day You can easily tell the government Oh I only made $4,000 today And there's no way for them to Disprove it whereas with a receipt There's always a copy I can easily just not ring up a sale Take your cash put it in my pocket Government doesn't know now Here's the thing and this is why shit I think is going to card
Starting point is 00:20:17 Every one of those restaurants started using That digital software called Micros or whatever You know when you type the order into the machine. That does a sales report. And the sales dictate how much money you made that day. So when the government comes and goes, oh, you only made four grand Saturday?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Let me see that sales report you got. Why does it say it's 10 grand? You're like, oh, they walked out on that. That made me six grand. They ran out on that That made me 6 grand They ran out on that But back in the day What did they used to do When you went into a diner
Starting point is 00:20:49 Was there a micros No it was just Yelling at the dude How much do we make today Yeah Right on their little piece of paper So I think that's why It was easier for them
Starting point is 00:20:58 To transition To just digital Cause they're like I can't I'm snitching on me If I try to keep Something in cash You see what I'm saying no i'm not fully clear so yeah so so you're saying the restaurant wants to do this or the government makes them do this what i'm saying is the restaurant
Starting point is 00:21:14 uses this program because it's easier it's seamless it's more functional everything's in the system right you can track what you're purchasing etc you can track what is waste everything's in the system and also all restaurants and bars use it. So when you get new employees, they already know. Don't have to retrain them. No tickets get lost. Like go into any diner, right? It's a dude on a microphone yelling to the guys in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And then you wonder why when you said no cheese and it came with cheese, you're like, yeah, because the guy's just getting screamed at in his second language. It's a Greek guy who doesn't speak English screaming at a Mexican who also doesn't speak English. And you're surprised there's broccoli on your fucking hamburger? I thought you said broccoli. So it's like there's a little shit lost. When it's put in the computer, ain't nothing lost. So once it's already in the computer, that sale is registered.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You can't lie about how much you sold. Correct. And some of the way the taxes work, because they know the restaurants were getting slick, what they would charge you on, like for alcohol, is sales. Right. They don't care how much. It's not about what you bought. It's how much you sold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Or no, it's taxed on how much you bought from the place right but it doesn't matter point is there's a record right where they used to not be yeah and once there's a record yeah motherfuckers like i ain't playing so his point is his point i mean originally these restaurants are stupid for doing that because they could keep all this money tax free yes yeah i got you and i also think the old ones the irs ain't even looking at them because they've been reporting minimal sales for so long. They're like, well, this ain't different. That's interesting, too.
Starting point is 00:22:50 But also, Alex, that's easy for a mom and pop restaurant to do. I was about to say, the mom and pop shops. Sweet green, and you got 50 locations, and more are coming and coming and coming. You can't just be like, hey, fuck credit card. We're cash only. Yeah, you're right. And there's always human error as well, too. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:04 You can always forget. Human stealing. Exactly. Now you're right and there's always human error as well too you know what I'm saying like you're always like human stealing yeah human stealing exactly now you talking that's when it gets really fucked up
Starting point is 00:23:09 it's harder to steal from your restaurant when you got everything locked in I remember I dated a bartender she showed me how she steals
Starting point is 00:23:15 the whole thing they fucking they get a lot god damn I would say they probably pocket at least 50% of everything they ring up
Starting point is 00:23:22 especially if it's cash and this is like almost all bartenders do that shit. And you're still an animal if you don't tip on like a beer purchase. Yeah. No, but outside the tip, what they'll do is you'll ask for a Bloody Mary with like a special vodka.
Starting point is 00:23:33 They'll just ring up Bloody Mary, but they're going to charge you for that Grey Goose. Yeah. Right? So now that $10 Bloody Mary, you got charged $25. Right. Where's that $15 go? That's my pocket Yo, but I'll be honest
Starting point is 00:23:47 There is value in being in being truthful because my parents business my dad was always like an honest motherfucker when it comes to stuff They believe in paying the taxes. You should pay like I could have start my like I incorporated my business right in New York I remember everybody in yeah, everybody in New York that has a business Incorporates in Delaware Cause it's cheap There's no business tax They're incredibly friendly Toward corporations It's like That's where you should incorporate
Starting point is 00:24:11 They're like Like the Bahamas But in America Yeah The Swedish I was about to say Is that what Swiss Yeah
Starting point is 00:24:17 So you go to Delaware right Cause they got no business Or nothing in Delaware So they're like Fuck it We'll just be a tax haven And my dad goes to me Well where do you do business?
Starting point is 00:24:27 And I go, well, in New York. He goes, well, then you should put New York. But yeah, but they're going to charge way more. And it's like, he goes, but where do you do business? So I got to do it, right? This is what happens. My parents have this business, dance lessons, teaching dance lessons. And they took a lot of cash.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Some people back in the day would just pay cash for it. So they had, but they pay their fucking taxes. My dad was an honest dude. 9-11 happens. Every business downtown is decimated. Right. All these restaurants destroyed. Nobody's going downtown.
Starting point is 00:24:56 People also don't have money. Terrified and shit. Yeah. And also they lost their jobs. So many people. So they don't have the extra money. Everybody's being tight. So the government was giving out bonds and the bonds were based on how much revenue
Starting point is 00:25:12 so if you were doing a good business all right so like if you were so my parents were honest they were not all the revenue exactly so then when the but when they asked for the bond the government's like okay well yeah you made this here you go So many businesses Were like Well can we have Some money to run And they're like
Starting point is 00:25:28 Well how much money Did you make last year And they're like Barely any Because they lied On their fucking And they made 100 But they only reported 30
Starting point is 00:25:35 So they got $30,000 With the bonds now And that's the only thing That kept my parents' Business afloat Oh shit Isn't that fucking crazy That's crazy
Starting point is 00:25:42 That's crazy He better than me I'm lying I understand why certain people do certain things I'm gonna just keep it at the last thing I'm gonna say if you want to check out this book the thing that I took from it even when I was 19 when I read it the first time but the thing I took from it is this idea that taxes are to punish the rich rich people make the tax laws they will always put in loopholes that they can get around and if they're not necessarily written there they'll
Starting point is 00:26:13 find a way around it every rich person you know is cheating in his taxes matter of course your boy on the podcast what was the name james outtooker out that's yeah that's all he was saying the richest people don't pay no fucking tax yeah you guys listen it's a great podcast i did interview with uh with outtoucher and he explains really how rich people operate without paying any tax that's all i've been trying to figure out like in the past like five six months here it is ready yeah and again this is super leveled up this is not you know where we are we can't do this but this is one year if you're you know but this lets you know figured motherfuckers right and know. But this lets you know.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Nine-figured motherfuckers. Right? And then find the legal loopholes. Yeah, exactly. So this is what they've created, right? So what they'll do is this. They'll have a publicly shared company. Like Berkshire Hathaway is for Warren Buffett.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Okay. Right? And he'll work for that company and he'll get a salary of $1. Because all of his salary is stock options. All of the stock in which he owns, I believe, or something of the majority. Which makes it seem like it's so altruistic. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Oh, we'll get into that later. Yeah, yeah. I always wonder why people do that. So check it. So what happens is this. They make no money, but you need money to operate. So what do you do if you need money to operate?
Starting point is 00:27:22 You take a loan against those shares. Now, if you guys know anything about loans, you don't pay tax on loans because that's not income so now you have this money to operate and you don't have to pay taxes on it now if you want to pay that back you can pay that back in shares so you can be like hey here's x amount of shares to my company to pay back the millions of dollars that that i borrowed that i borrowed from you now you've you've just got millions of dollars cash and paid zero dollars to the government. They've created an economy that exists outside of our economy.
Starting point is 00:27:50 This is how rich people operate. Listen to the whole interview if you want. It's truly fascinating. I'm definitely going to listen to it because I've just been fascinated on how just being around these super rich motherfuckers and just trying to figure out how the fuck they find these loopholes.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I called my business manager. I asked if I could make my company a publicly shared company so we could do this, and he almost hung up on me. He was like, you're not Warren Buffett, fam. No, motherfucker. I was like, we could have five shares. There don't got to be that many shares.
Starting point is 00:28:19 But there is a little shit that's legal that you can do that you should look into. Just learning money is so fucking valuable. You have a corporation, you write shit off. you should be incorporated yeah no i am incorporated yeah boom so there you go you're writing off your meals you're writing off every single thing that you know for traveling for like nike stuff for like wwe stuff like any type of fucking shit that i get to work with other companies that goes through i'm gonna pay edin for revolt shit that comes through my llc there you go operation so if you get is there a difference between llc and incorporation?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah. So LLC is a limited liability corporation, and I have something that's called an S-Corp. There's also C-Corps, and I'd be lying to you if I could tell you the exact details, but each one is a different level of incorporation, and the LLC, I would say, is like the beginning level of it. and the LLC, I would say, is like the beginning level of it. And there are certain benefits for an LLC, certain benefits for a C-Corp, certain benefits for an S-Corp. And I think as you kind of level up, you change within that.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And I'm sure there's something completely different when you have a publicly traded company. I'm sure that's probably outside of corporations. My understanding is the C-Corp. Oh, yeah, you know tax law. Not a little bit. No, very little. I have a C-Corp because my dad studies taxes and was like this is what you should do now but i don't even know that it was right but like c-corp is if it's like multinational that's usually c-corps i probably i feel like i should have gone s-corp he's saying with trump's new
Starting point is 00:29:37 laws c-corp trust his ass man yeah they know but find people who know money and then learn as much as you can about money and i remember another thing I just read is like poor middle class people get their expenses. They have to pay all their expenses first and then whatever's left is theirs. Smart people, rich people with money who are incorporated pay all, they take all their money and then pay their expenses. So when you get a paycheck from a W2 company, you work at, I don't know, Nike. They tax you first. Then whatever's left is yours and then you got to pay all your bills blah blah and then you get a little bit left if you're
Starting point is 00:30:09 incorporated all this money is yours anything i pay for that's expenses that's my business meetings that's my mortgages it's my suits whatever that you can write off you write that off first and then whatever's left that's the income that gets taxed you can probably word this more clearly than no no what you're saying is brilliant It's pretty spot on So exactly what it is It's the difference between a tax refund and then paying taxes So the average person with a job Gets a tax refund
Starting point is 00:30:33 And what that means is the government took more money Than they should have taken And we get so fucking happy And we get happy that we get our money back This is how crazy it is The government gets a free loan on our money. Yeah. Right? That means you pay throughout the year. They're getting that money that you're giving them for free. They can do whatever they want with that money.
Starting point is 00:30:50 They're taking it. Yeah. They can invest it. They can make money on the money that you've given them. Let's say you gave them $50,000. They could put that in a bond. Uh-huh. Right? Make $5,000 on it. You get none of that $5,000. Right? They just give you the money back that you deserve because you might have paid too much. And then you get excited that you get your money back, that they already made some money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Right? What rich people do if you're incorporated is you get your whole check. And the government goes, yo, April, you've got to cough it up. Yeah. But we assume you're rich and responsible. So we're not going to take your money. But you're going to have to pay. And that's why rich people get audited.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And poor people, you never heard of anybody in the projects getting audited. No, never. You know what I mean? Like the IRS doesn't break down. They got random audits. I got a random audit once. But here's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:31:37 You might have some shit. No, this is before. When you get a check. This guy's got different shit in his name. Oh, yeah. They're trying to spell differently. This guy's got 888 numbers Calling him a lot You know what I mean I got some numbers
Starting point is 00:31:53 I ain't picking up no numbers So when we lived together This motherfucker had all the 800s calling him And he would just send them shit as a voicemail Put me on to it It's so funny That they think Calling me
Starting point is 00:32:06 Is gonna make me Do anything Like you're not Getting your money back But caller ID son Is literally this Okay That's it
Starting point is 00:32:14 That's all I gotta do Before I pay you Thousands of dollars Now I got the auto dollar So when like You call them And you don't hear Nothing for a while
Starting point is 00:32:20 And then they pick up And then you just say Bye See you later Yeah my folks Open a restaurant In my name Shut down I did never pay that back i'm not good i was 22 or something why would you and then uh the hospital i have that health care but i don't know if you guys have heard it but i
Starting point is 00:32:32 owed like five thousand dollars after insurance and on principle i was like oh fuck yourself you never paid it and then i went broke so god got me back but uh but anyway here's the other thing i was going to say what i was trying to word is if you have a job and they take your taxes out then whatever's left you have to pay for all your expenses with right i have to pay for my wardrobe i have to pay for my my company meals whatever the fuck my meals if you are incorporated you pay your expenses first all those things are written off write-offs and those are an income as long as I can find a way to tie it to my business, now it's not my income. So if I made $100,000
Starting point is 00:33:08 and $50,000 went to my expenses, I'm only getting taxed on half the money I would get taxed on normally. And that saves me $20,000 or whatever in the long run. Real talk. So incorporate, guys. Learn money. Get it. Learn, bro. I certainly don't know yet.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Some of y'all are going to be selling your livers to make money, man. I know how y'all do. If you buy some fucking bonds. Get it Learn bro Get their money up I certainly don't know Yeah that's the one thing I really didn't know What I was doing bro To make money man I know how y'all do To buy some fucking bonds That's real shit man That's shit that they don't Teach you in fucking college Or even younger than that though
Starting point is 00:33:32 So if you can If you get some money Make sure you learn that shit Hey real talk If you don't want to learn money Maybe you don't deserve the money Facts That's the biggest fact
Starting point is 00:33:41 Some motherfuckers That's how You know Broke ESPN 30 for 30 like the worst thing about that is that you
Starting point is 00:33:47 give a bunch of 19 year olds millions of dollars for the first time they don't know what the fuck to do with that shit and that's why
Starting point is 00:33:52 they go broke yeah no it's a lot yeah I mean still I think I'd be able to manage I think 30 something
Starting point is 00:33:59 year old would be alright no but it's like we always do that be like he's only 19 years old how could he possibly have that much money it's like I can figure that out He's only 19 years old. How could he possibly have that much money? I can figure that out.
Starting point is 00:34:07 You've had different circumstances, man. Your parents owned the business. Your parents knew some shit. My parents were financially illiterate. When I was younger, I blew so much money. But you didn't have millions, fam. I did not. But for my age, I was doing relatively well because I was selling drugs.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And I had a decent job. And I didn't have many bills. That's hysterical. You sold drugs and had a stand-up job. I had like fast money coming in and it was just like, oh, bottle service. See, I never did bottle service. That was the most corny shit to me. You won't say what you used to do
Starting point is 00:34:37 before the podcast, which is a stand-up job that's respectable, but you will say that you used to sell drugs. So that's back in the day. Everybody sold drugs. But why are. But you will say that you used to sell drugs. So it's back in the day. Everybody sold drugs. I didn't sell drugs. But why are you so afraid to say what you used to do?
Starting point is 00:34:50 Because then when I say bad things that I did while I was on the job, it's almost putting those people who are currently doing those things under the bus. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Alex always got a rationale that's sound. Yeah, it is pretty good. Dude, I didn't realize how good Alex was at white shit until this week recently. Son. Yeah. This guy is... this week. Son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 This guy is. Archery? Son. Is that what you were doing? Nice. Okay, we did two things. We went to. He was feeling to get us to bowl before this.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I know. Yeah. I knew that something was up. When I saw your story, I was like, oh, he's been bowling. Like, out of nowhere, we got a group text like, yo, what we should do for content is all go bowling and have a competition about it. I didn't even respond the first day. I was like, what the?
Starting point is 00:35:23 I didn't do this shit, bro. I knew exactly what it was. And then I go to the story, and he's bowling a strike, like, mad nice. He got his leg kicked to the side like the reverse Heisman. You said it in form, son? You said it in form. The form was on point. The Fred Flintstone release.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, this shit was incredible. So we're in Toronto, right? And we were doing some shit for Dropping In. And we went to this thing that's called a Rage Room. Do you know what that is? Yes. Yes, I do. I saw your idea your fashion that's all i know so so shouts of fashion so boom the rage room literally is it's like you just break shit they give you bats and fucking pro bars there's like tvs in there there's vcrs there's bottles there's everything you can imagine
Starting point is 00:36:05 shout out to Desus this is peak caucasity yeah super peak caucasity yeah we're saying that's how Canadians can be nice is like they have
Starting point is 00:36:13 a place for all their rage right just go and fuck shit up so we go in there Alex is doing fine in the rage room not exceptional but fine
Starting point is 00:36:20 but before we leave Alex goes to me he goes hey bro do you want to do that and he points to this thing with bow and arrows and I'm Alex goes to me, he goes, hey bro, do you want to do that? And he points to this thing with bow and arrows. And I'm like, what's that? And he goes, it's like bow and arrows, but like, he goes, it's a dodgeball
Starting point is 00:36:32 with bow and arrows. Should we do that? But what? Bro, we, it's You're dodging the arrows? Fam, you get a bow, you get an arrow. At the end of the arrow, there's like a tennis ball sized tip. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:46 But it's- Cushioned. Is it like foamy? Yeah, like super foamy nerf. Imagine like a nerf ending. Okay. You get the real bow and arrow. There's a whole big course like on some paintball ship.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Not too big, but like the size of like elementary school basketball. Right? Elementary school gym. Okay. So what happens is they put all the arrows in the middle. There's a place where nobody can be shot in the middle, and then there's two sides with a couple things blocking it. Bro, they got rubber machetes that you could throw at each other,
Starting point is 00:37:16 rubber bottles, everything. It was two on two, and, bro, we played this fucking bow and arrow shit. Alex was Hunger Games in it out there bro real life catniss dog this guy was fucking bit like he was shooting like the black guy shoot guns he had his bow and arrow tilted you know what i mean it was like popping out of like hidden shrubbery like yes bro you had one position he had all his shit in the one but I got like time it black guy but it's like bro it was unbelievable dude dude it was on something came out I was like I was fucking yelling at market show I got you know we have mark mark is a little kid he was in that little kid
Starting point is 00:38:04 show where you front like you didn't get hit. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you know when you play dodgeball? Hey, boy, he touched me. You out, motherfucker. Bro, Alex was getting heated. He touched you, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I hit you with that shit. Stop playing. Give me my shot. Bro, I was just chilling in the back trying to dodge shit. I could barely shoot the shit straight. Who are the teams? Is it you and Alex? Me and Al versus Marlon and Mark.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Okay. Marlon, good, funny kid. You guys probably know him on Twitter. His name is DadDudeMcFly. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's funny as shit.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Very funny on Twitter, man. I like him. So he pulled up to the Toronto, man. And shout out to everybody who came out to Toronto shows, man. That was crazy. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:38:42 That was a peak for me in my career, man. That was so crazy, bro. You deserved that, man. That was dope. Thank you, man. But that was so that was that was why my career man that was so crazy bro that was deserve that man that was dope thank you man but that was so fucking surreal man it was it was an awesome awesome time in toronto toronto's held me down more than any city in the world maybe new york obviously that's home so it's hard to compare but y'all can have been close to new york i think toronto's bigger it might be bigger than new york y'all got to come out, bro. November 22nd. But, man, it was such a fucking special experience, man.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Thank y'all so much for coming out, dude. It was just so surreal, man. I still don't even. I've been trying to put in words. I haven't been able to do it. I was watching that video while I was in Georgia. And just like the fucking ovation. Like the line around the door and the fucking ovation.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I was like, this shit looks like a comedy special. Dude. was crazy it was dope man it was good to see man i was happy to see that that was the first time where like there's been times after shows where like people stood up you know like but i'd be so embarrassed i'd just walk off stage real quick like i didn't want to feel like i was waiting for a stand so i'd be like oh thank you so much and then i leave right this is the first time where like both shows motherfuckers shot up and like just to like oh man bro that's a that's a crazy experience bro aren't all of it aren't the experience anybody who knows andrew knows this shit is earned every bit of it is this guy just maniacally working bro craziest person i know working man it was so fucking you know what's so cool about it is
Starting point is 00:40:05 like to just be there knowing that like everybody there told somebody else right like like the a group text or a group email yeah is what made my career it was all viral right it's like word of mouth grassroots literally word of mouth it's like that that's why if you hate on me you're a hater bro because like you're a real hater if you hate on me because i'm not here because of me i'm here because people are like yo you probably like him yeah you probably like even this podcast is like yo you probably like this you would like this you listen to this it's like you got no ads you got no magazine write-ups no company i don't ever really see you doing like press runs with like a publicist and shit like doing the people yeah yeah every fucking year my agent or somebody like yo should we get a publicist for this i'm like for what the publicist is you put out the content and if
Starting point is 00:40:54 people fuck with you they're the best publicist man it's like there's unique even people listen right now there's like a subset of people i know that listen to every podcast right everything we do and they're the influencers they're the people that will take an episode and share it with 10 Even people listening right now, there's like a subset of people I know that listen to every podcast or everything we do. And they're the influencers. They're the people that will take an episode and share it with 10 people. Right. Or post it up on Reddit. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Or post it on Twitter. Or Worldstar. Yeah. There's groups. And I feel like in a weird way, and maybe it's just us, but the reason why we've been so impactful, this and Brilliant Idiots and just the stand-up clips, is the people that we've gravitated towards, they're the people that celebrate us the most. Yeah. Yeah, man. To see that happen.
Starting point is 00:41:31 There's something different about when I first got into this whole game, the first thing somebody told me was make sure you're of the people, not of the industry. Oh, yeah. Because the industry can turn on you fast. But if you got people, and they do. And they do. And they do and they do but if you got people that legitimately fuck with you they will support you through thick and thin like through the good times and the bad and you'll always be straight if the
Starting point is 00:41:54 people fuck with you so man it's good to see that bro it really is it really is that's how you have a career man people give you the career people don't i mean it's like i think these sometimes industry they just don't understand it it's like the people. I mean, it's like, I think sometimes the industry, they just don't understand it. It's like, the people are a wave, bro. It's like, you got to ride it or get out the way. Yeah. The people are a wave, man. I mean, you experience it.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Al, did you feel it? Done. You remember, I didn't even know how big the venue was. I was like, oh, we're going to Toronto. This is going to be cool and shit. And then he told me the size of the venue. And then it was back, oh, we're going to Toronto and it's going to be cool and shit. And then he told me the size of the venue and then it was back-to-back sold out.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Like, after the second show, something hit me, almost dropped a tear. Thug crime. But it was just like, just the amount of love and that many people.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Like, we were just there last year and it was maybe a third of the size. Yeah, we did. I mean, this was crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:40 It's only the beginning, man. It's only the beginning. I feel like everybody that's been a part of this, the growth of this podcast is really starting to hit their stride. I'm watching your shit as I'm at the Peace Jam. John Calipari sitting next to me with Juwan Howard, Patrick Ewing, Penny Hardaway like the top coaches in the country that I'm calling and I'm not no comedy guy
Starting point is 00:43:06 but like there's guys that listen to the podcast coming up to me going like this like while I'm doing the fucking the Nike shit
Starting point is 00:43:13 I'm just like yo this shit is fucking crazy bro and then I'm looking at my Instagram story and I'm seeing like the fucking venue
Starting point is 00:43:19 and like doing all that shit I'm just like yo right now is like a very fucking special time for everybody man so like it was really fucking this week I was like really special for like tell this whole this whole world star it's a way bro yeah that clip hit world star man the Sylvia clear that's Sylvia Sage man I had to spend two days in the doghouse but it was worth it for the He was upset or what? Why? She was a little upset. For what? You didn't do anything. I didn't. I know you were just throwing the oops.
Starting point is 00:43:46 That's what I'm saying. She's like, yeah, why do you always got to have porn stars on the show? I'm like. Because that's just slapstick. It's good content. I'm saying. You never asked me why we always got to have heat. Why we always got to have a roof.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Why we always got to have an apartment. Like, what you mean, bro? That's why. Because we got porn stars out here getting them clicks, bro. Son, you know how many people, their lives were made when they found out all they had to do was get $1,200 to fuck their favorite porn star? Dog, what the hell? People were going crazy in my DMs. They were like, fam, did she really say $1,200 or $12,000?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Bro. It became so attainable. Son, I think her price just went up. Son, supply and demand, she got flooded with supply right now. Demand right now.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Facts. I mean, somebody from ESPN, I'm not going to mention their name, came up to me and was like, 1200 seemed kind of low.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Damn it. Hold up, wait, real quick, you better mention that fucking name on the Patreon. Nah,
Starting point is 00:44:41 that Patreon, I'm doing a Patreon. Amin said that? Nah, Amin wasn't out there. White ESPN or black ESPN? White ESPN. White the Patreon. Nah, I'm doing a Patreon. Amin said that? Nah, Amin wasn't out there. White ESPN or black ESPN? White ESPN. White ESPN.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Ooh, this is interesting now. Kobe. What? Jacoby. I'm not going to say it now. Patreon. Patreon,
Starting point is 00:44:55 I got you. That's Jacoby. Shouts to Jacoby. You just picked a white guy with a black name. I see what you did. That's the only white guy's name on ESPN I know.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Scott Van Pelt. Scott Van Pelt. Scott Van Pelt. Keith Overman? Fucking Keith Overman. K.O., man. K.O. is my guy. Always guilting people and adopting dogs and shit. Is that what he does? You ever follow him on Twitter? Nah. That shit is a fucking guilt trip, bro. Keith Overman.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Nah, nah, nah, nah. Bro, follow Keith Overman on Twitter. His entire timeline, if it's not highlights or like politics shit, it's just like stories about adopting dogs. And like, boom. As soon as you click over there, right, he has a whole story on either one. Keep scrolling down. You feel like you give a fuck about a missing cat?
Starting point is 00:45:35 You gotta read the tweet because he will absolutely guilt trip the fuck out of you. They have a new baby except the 10-year-old cookie is suddenly aggressive and may die tomorrow. They say she growls and resorts guards, yada, yada, yada, and then they give you a link and all that shit to go and adopt a dog. And he does this literally every single day. He's just bored. This is what white women do. I'm saying this is boring.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I respect it, though, because I love dogs. He has nothing to do, and he needs a purpose in his life because he no longer got his show. Yeah. But he still does SportsCenter for here and there like the big one is gone i thought he still does like the big sports center no i was a minute ago they brought him back they did he had that he had his own show his own like little politics show for a while then they brought him back to espn yeah he had bars or whoever was writing for him had bars yeah yeah but then he got so angry and so political it's like fam we don't want that. It's sports, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Just tell me who hit the home run, who dunked it. It's not that crazy. It's such a weird transition to think you could go from ESPN to politics. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck? What's his face did that, though? What's his name? Craig Kilbourne? Remember Craig Kilbourne?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Oh, was he on ESPN? He was on ESPN. ESPN, then Daily Show. But Daily Show was still comedy. Satirical, yeah. It wasn't like real news. Their slogan was, when news news breaks we'll fix it yeah and then stewart came and knocked it out of the fucking park took it to a new level so even that he struggled with a little bit but like i don't
Starting point is 00:46:53 know bro i still remember him being like the asshole from was it knocked up was it knocked up before no no no no no no uh old school old school old school that's what it was my fault all those movies just fault All those movies Just blend together Those movies Slap man Old school Wedding Crashers
Starting point is 00:47:09 Little white dudes Back in the comedy How about that For a flagrant thought We could give some Of the trans comedies To white dudes How about that
Starting point is 00:47:21 For a flagrant thought Of the day Yeah what's our Flagrant thought of the week That's mine My flagrant thought of the week I've, what's our flagrant thought of the week? That's mine. My flagrant thought of the week, I've been had it. Man. Okay, go.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Two summers ago, I'm so glad we got over it, how hard it was to pretend to not watch football. Wait, wait, wait. Like when the Capodix shit was happening, they had to pretend that I didn't love football for like two months. That shit fucking sucked, dog. I'm like, because I'm feeling so hard. I'm watching training camps and shit.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I'm watching Sam Darnold and Le'Veon Bell get into it. And I'm like, I'm not like a football junkie like I'm a basketball junkie. But I'm just like, this is better than fucking baseball. And God, how fucking miserable was I two years ago? I love Kaepernick to death and all that. But I was like, fuck, I got to pretend I don't love this shit. People got fucking smashed. He settled.
Starting point is 00:48:06 So I settled for Channel 4. But yeah, I'm glad all of us is- I'll settle into this couch and watch six hours of football every Sunday. How about that? I'm glad we all got past that, though. That was dark time. Hey, you sat in it. I'll walk right past that motherfucker as soon as I heard about it.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Oh, he's kneeling? Let me walk by him so I can get to a TV and watch him. I mean, I respect that. You know, clearly. I high-fived him on the way. God damn. The whole time, I'm like, there's got to be a better way, Kaepernick. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:48:38 The fuck am I doing on Sunday? Watch Big Little Lies? The fuck that? That show was awful though What the fuck That show's pretty good though Is that show about Nike supporting Colin Kaepernick?
Starting point is 00:48:56 Oh man Fuck it though So football's coming back Yeah I watched Jerry Jones' grandson Play over the weekend What's my Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:49:02 Flavor and thought of the week Oh wait a minute Wait a minute Wait a minute Wait a Week. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I got one. Okay, go. You go, and then I'll come back tomorrow. Guys, let me... I got to cop a few pleas before this one. It's a little harsh. So, I love black women. Oh, God. Stop.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Where are we going? Where are we going? I know what you're saying. Can you stop?
Starting point is 00:49:21 If you got a premise, I love black women. I know what I'm saying. I got to cop a few. Please stop. Let me help you, Alex, before a deal, I love it. I know, that's right. I got a concept. Please stop it. Let me help you, Alex, before. No, no, no. Chad, stop it. You got to let him get through this.
Starting point is 00:49:30 You're not going to woke ourselves out of this fun. This is good. This is good. This is good. Go, go. Kaz, you go sleep for this time right here. I love my beautiful black queens. Listen, I'm here with you, Alex.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I love my queens. So, and this doesn't pertain to any West Indian women. Okay. Toronto white women dance better than American black women. Oh, no. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Let me just, because y'all might have spoken over that a little bit. What Alex said was that Toronto white women, white women in Toronto, and he has a great argument for this. He told me this argument. Toronto white women dance better than American black women. Now, I think you have to be a little bit more specific with what
Starting point is 00:50:12 you're saying. So American black. No, no, no, but they dance better to what? Oh, to reggae. There it is. Whining. They can whine better than... Toronto white women dance better to reggae than American black women. Now, make your argument.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Because he said this at first. That makes sense. And I was like, man, what the fuck are you even talking about? And then he made an argument that I thought was very good. Go. Okay, so out here, you have all the choices of music. We're super diverse. This is in America.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So not all black women grow up in like reggae culture and get experience to it. Every single white woman in Toronto is experienced to reggae early in parties, and they learn how to dance very early. West Indian culture got a big impact in Toronto. So in Toronto, right, or in Canada, we should say, they don't have black people. They have people from the West Indies, people from Africa, people from England. Same way. Right. So it's like everybody there has brought their culture.
Starting point is 00:51:16 The sense of cultural identity in Toronto. Correct. Right. So America has black people. Toronto has Jamaicans, Trinidadians, et cetera. So the music and the culture that exists in Toronto, and often why this is why Drake gets clowned. We were talking about that, Drake. When he speaks Patois and shit. Why are you speaking Patois?
Starting point is 00:51:34 Because that's how black people spoke there. It's no different than like, I don't know, you don't experience this as a black dude, but I've dated girls that don't know anything about New York. And they're like, why do you talk black? What do you want to be black? And it's like, they don't realize this is a black dude, but I've dated girls that don't know anything about New York, and they're like, why do you talk black? What do you want to be black? They don't realize this is how we talk in New York. So his argument was that's the type of dancing that they did because the reggae permeated the Toronto culture,
Starting point is 00:51:56 so these white girls are dancing at fucking middle school proms, all this kind of shit, whereas black chicks in America, they might not dance. You're working with some ass here, back here, making cash here. Which is still a skill, which is like their type of culture. I need some more important skill, honestly. I'm trying to see some whining, bro. Let me show you a video.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I love me some whining, bro. Look at white women whining. No, no, no, no, no. It's a lot more sensual than a straight up twerk. That's the only dance that I do. Yeah. Because if you whine. Let me see you whine. No, no only dance that I do. Yeah. Like, because if you whine, let me see you whine.
Starting point is 00:52:26 No, no, no. I mean, with someone else. Like you whine with, yeah, you know. Yo, let me see you whine.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Most American women is just a traditional twerk where you break a sweat and try to see how fast you can go. But a whine is a lot more sensual. It's a lot about like
Starting point is 00:52:42 proximity and closeness and like rhythm to the body. Whereas twerking is just like ass, ass, ass, ass, ass, ass, ass. I don't even like when bitches twerk on me. I mean, it hurts sometimes. I'll look at them and do it alone. And then you put this up that I'm sending you. Go on, keep going. It hurts sometimes, though.
Starting point is 00:53:00 There's certain women, when you ever get into a girl trying to twerk on you really fucking hard to the point of pain. Yeah. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. This isn't fun for me. It's fun for you. I'll stand here and be the human statue. But it's just not. It hurts.
Starting point is 00:53:17 What, when they twerk on you? Sometimes. Because they'll get ball. They'll get all ball on one good twerk. And you're just not enjoying it anymore. Now it's just load management. Question. Like Kawhi Leonard.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Do you get hard when girls dance on your dick? Nah, it depends. Depends. I mean, I've been dancing at parties like this since I was in the fourth grade. So you'll not get hard when they're dancing on your desk? No. Okay. Okay, so I don't relate to you. Sometimes, though.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Sometimes, though. I mean, if I want to. If they're pushing it up on me like that, I get hard. And then I have to decide whether I keep it hard pointing down. But that's the thing, though. Or do I flip it up and put it on my belly And then they're like And then they're like Rubbing against belt buckle And it's a whole like
Starting point is 00:54:08 Moral thing That's how I think girls Get the long like labia and shit Their pussies get all fucked up Is that they're rubbing Their pussy against belt buckle And like jeans and shit When they're dancing
Starting point is 00:54:16 As like teenagers I think that's how it is And it like Pulls on it You know what I mean It's just like It's nagging Okay so
Starting point is 00:54:24 So this is a video a little Duval posted. I hope that you guys can get a close-up on this in some way. There's no way. This is fucking unreal. She's got a solid foot.
Starting point is 00:54:34 She has a little arch. Wait till you see what she does and you're not even thinking about her feet. Are we ready to go? Press play on this goddamn video.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I mean... This is the greatest wine twerk, whatever you want to call it, I've seen in my entire life. Look, look at what she's fucking, I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:53 just the core strength. I was about to say, like, that's just athletically impressive. What is happening? She's balancing on her head. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yes. Oh yeah. Oh, she's in a, she's in a stand, a headstand. She's in a headstand just on her head Oh my god Yes Oh yeah Oh She's in a She's in a stand A headstand She's in a headstand Just on her This is some Cirque du Soleil shit
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yes it is Holy shit I mean oh my god And just built beautifully Is she not Look at that Where is this Wow
Starting point is 00:55:17 Black man with a G Black man with a G Black man with a G I get it I get it Matter of fact I'm gonna look away right now. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I'm going to end up back in the doghouse again. So if you go back just to the beginning of it. Go to the beginning of it. Yeah. Watch this. Go to the beginning, right? Let's say her pussy was super wet and leaking. Ready?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Just watch. She could drink it. She could drink it. She could drink her own pussy juice from that position that is one of the most amazing things i've ever seen that's the only thing i saw or you could bust in her cream pie and then it could leak out into her own mouth wow that's porn jesus christ dude anyway So Her fucking forearms How strong do you gotta be
Starting point is 00:56:06 This woman Jesus Christ Is a marvel Is a physical marvel She's gotta throw 90 on her 90 miles per hour Okay let's Let's pull back
Starting point is 00:56:13 Let's pull back It's like Ricky of the year Guys Okay Shall we talk about Some deportes Mid-roll now or later Let's do a sports story first
Starting point is 00:56:22 And then we'll get into it Sports Okay Yeah the biggest sports story. Russell Westbrook trade. Yes. Oh, we didn't talk about that? No, we didn't. That happened during the draft. Can I say something?
Starting point is 00:56:34 Please. My new favorite team. Wow. My new favorite team. The Houston Rockets. Your team sucks. The Houston Rockets. You got horrible taste in teams. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. What is going on here? If I'm not allowed to watch the Knicks
Starting point is 00:56:50 past February this year, which is usually the case, I will take my allegiance to the Houston Rockets. Absolutely. They're going to be fucking fun. They're going to be fucking fun. They're going to be coming out to the fucking NBA-style hallway looking like fucking Zoolander with him and P.J. Tucker. They're going to be the best to the fucking during the NBA-style hallway looking like fucking Zoolander
Starting point is 00:57:05 with him and P.J. Tucker. They're going to be the best team in the league. Are you kidding me? Like, bro, in Houston, the way that fucking crowd gets hyped up, all that ISO ball, all that go-to-hell bullshit, like, they're going to run zero plays. Like, it's going to be the most fun, chaotic
Starting point is 00:57:22 They're not going to win shit, obviously. Right. But they're going to be the most fun, chaotic basketball team I think I've ever seen. As long as you think they're not going to win. No, no, no. I don't think they're going to win shit. This is going to be my favorite team to watch. How far do you think they get? I don't even know if they make playoffs, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:36 You don't think they make the playoffs? I don't even know. I mean, the West is good. The West is very good. They're going up against good teams. They're a, you could quote me on this, they are a first-round exit. Without a doubt. First-round exit.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I'm curious what they make in the first round. They're the textbook first-round exit team. They'll be a great regular season team. I think they'll be a 5-4, 4-5 team. So where does Westbrook play in Mike D'Antoni's system? I think he plays the same way that Chris Paul played. There's going to be games that he looks great. There's going to be games where it's like,
Starting point is 00:58:09 where the fuck's Russell? That's James Harden's team. Like, they're not going to change what they do. But what would you do with him, right? You have this guy who has elite skills. What do you do with him? So the one thing that I think is going to help him out is that Russell Westbrook's probably
Starting point is 00:58:22 the best rebounding guard ever, right? So if you're not setting him up, a lot of the offense that comes with Russell Westbrook's probably the best rebounding guard ever, right? So if you're not setting him up, a lot of the offense that comes with Russell Westbrook is get the ball and just push. And Houston has a lot of fucking shooters, and they got a lot of rim runners. I think that's where you see Russell Westbrook at his best. So Russ scores in transition.
Starting point is 00:58:37 In transition. Half court, I don't know what the fuck you do. I don't even know where to place him. I don't know what the fuck you do. Does he become the TJ Tucker in the corner? Here's the thing. People knock Russell's jumper. I just think he takes poor shots.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I think he just has poor shot selection. I don't think he's a bad shooter. I think if he's taking corner threes, I think he'll hit that at just as high a clip as any other good shooter in the league. In a weird way? If it's a corner three, I think that's completely in Russ's range. I think when you go out to that foul line extended three, it might be a little far for him.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Same with Melo. It's like Melo's a good corner three guy, but you bring him out to that real three-point line, it's out of his range. He just can't shoot it. So I just don't know where you play him on that team, and I know that he's not going to be okay with just not touching the ball multiple possessions.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I mean, for most of last year, he let kind of Paul George take the reins on that team. It's just that, you know, he wasn't necessarily. For Harden, I think Harden will be better off the ball, but I just don't see why you changed what's been working for you if you're Mike D'Antoni and that's your guy. Yeah. Do you bring him off the bench? Westbrook?
Starting point is 00:59:43 No. No, no, no, no. You do not do that. Even if that's the right thing, he won't. And you know he's not going to. No. I wish he would because he's going to have to start getting treated like Mello if he won't. He might be.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Really? Russell Westbrook? Dude, it's just not the right team. I mean, you're not willing to. You got to defer to. He was the MVP a season ago. You got to defer to James Harden, right? a season ago you got to defer to james harden right yeah you have to go it's his team you got traded there but you're the one honestly you need the ball in your hands you're not that effective without the ball right james harden
Starting point is 01:00:18 isn't that effective either but he's more effective than you what i do think helps is um i think james harden's way better off the ball than Westbrook is. And I think he'll be off the ball because Westbrook will be a rebound fiend and will be stealing rebounds from like Capella and I guess Tyson Chandler and those guys, whoever the fuck else they got down there. I think if I'm Harden, I probably make myself play a little bit off the ball more. I think you try and get that two-headed dog thing going and just have them run a little bit more because James Harden's a way better shooter than Westbrook.
Starting point is 01:00:50 He's a great catch-and-shoot shooter. And he's played it off guard before. Like when he was in Oklahoma City, unless when he was fresh off the bench and Durant and Westbrook were sitting down, Harden played the two guard a lot of times. So I don't know. I think it'll work. I think it'll be fun, but I just don't think they're going to win shit. off the bench and Durant and Westbrook are sitting down. Harden played the two guard a lot of times. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I think it'll work. I think it'll be fun, but I just don't think they're going to win shit. I just don't know where Westbrook plays in D'Antoni. It's going to be fascinating to watch, man. We'll see. I mean, D'Antoni's an offensive genius, but he's an offensive genius within. No, that's without a doubt. He changed the game of basketball.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, you could say he didn't, but like. No, I know he changed the game of basketball. Oh, for sure. You could say he didn't, but like... No, I know he changed the game of basketball. Even your team, the Mavericks, play D'Antoni's offense. I understand he changed the game of basketball. I think Nelson did a lot
Starting point is 01:01:38 before D'Antoni. I don't think D'Antoni... I get that he's very smart offensively, but it never really seems to translate, and it's crazy to me that you could be such a genius and so married to a seven-man rotation, and that's why you never win and you never change. So, and here's the thing, and I'm not saying that's not a good argument, because I think you do have merit. But, like, you've got to, okay, put it this way.
Starting point is 01:02:00 If D'Antoni wins one ring, he's considered one of the best coaches in history. Right. Because then all of a sudden everybody's going to go, well, not only did he win, but he made it to the Western Conference Finals every single year. At the bare minimum, he made playoffs every year of his career. Like, you'll start looking at what he'd accomplished, and you'll be like, wow, this is amazing. Team USA, gold medalist, all this shit. Even, like, as a player, he was like that dude in Italy. Well, outside of player, coaching
Starting point is 01:02:28 in Italy. Developing the system he had to do, right? So the issue is without that ring, we go, none of this works well enough to get the ring. And then once he gets the ring, we're going to start going, wow, he was able to go that far with just those guys with his offensive system. So let me amend what I'm saying. I get he's an offensive genius, but it drives
Starting point is 01:02:44 me crazy to watch him refuse to develop a bench in every year it bites him in the ass yeah it drives me fucking nuts 100 so that's where i was but yeah i get that he's offensively genius sorry continue and and you know what to your point offense is half the game fam yeah very true maybe being an offensive genius doesn't make you a coaching genius. Right. Because coaching is two sides to the ball. Yeah. Simple as that.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah. But just from the people I speak to, like all of our favorite coaches that we respect the most. Love him. Worship him. They really respect him, dude. They still do those seminars where he hosts and pretty much tells coaches how to run offenses. And these highly regarded guys, guys who have won championships. Orange County. Every year, all the coaches
Starting point is 01:03:30 in the league, they go watch him talk and listen to him talk about offense. Why? He's the Marty Schottenheimer of the NBA. Maybe that's great. We just know you're really good at offense, and even though you may not win, we still want to know, if I take some of your offense and apply it to what i do with my team yep then maybe we'll we'll be all right that's
Starting point is 01:03:49 how much they respect them as offensive player coach i also think offenses schemes are easier to implement i think defense is like i think you have to have defensive instincts i think like a real quality defensive team um requires much more cohesion you know to understand yeah understand coverages and how you're gonna play pick and rolls and all stuff like offense is you go there you go there you go there yeah I you set the pick and then you roll it's not crazy you still have good offense if you don't make shots like if I could draw up a wide-open shot for somebody every single time down and they'll make the shot nobody's's like, you got to hit those shots.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Like, they're doing that. But we got the shot we wanted. You got the shot you wanted. That's the term. Defense, I think, also requires emphasis. You got to emphasize defense more. And I think D'Antoni emphasizes, it seems like, offense more. Yeah, in his mind, he's like, I'll go bucket for bucket with you.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Yeah. He thinks no different than, like, Kyrie does. Yeah. Like, Kyrie's whole thinking is, okay, you scored on me, but I'll go get two. He's the mellow of coaches. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for real. Yeah, brilliant offensively.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah, it's like brilliant at offense. He doesn't really care about defense and doesn't win. Yeah. But like, yeah. So I guess we'll see what happens with that. I'm just curious to see if he even wants Westbrook on the team. That's another thing. He's on a one-year deal.
Starting point is 01:05:05 He decided not to renegotiate the deal. Who, D'Antoni? Yeah. He's like, this is the last year. And he's like, well, we'll figure it out afterwards. Maybe they'll figure it out during the season. But I like that. If you want to re-sign these guys that I don't like, I don't want to coach here.
Starting point is 01:05:19 What the fuck's the point? Do you think Harden and Westbrook argue over the ball? Nah. Harden and Westbrook are like this, bro. That's what I heard. I heard Harden and Westbrook argue over ball time? Nah. Harden and Westbrook are like this, bro. That's what I heard. I heard Harden and Westbrook are pretty close. But it's different when you're playing together. He's not wrong. And you're used to putting up numbers.
Starting point is 01:05:33 He's not wrong. They're both different players than they were when they played together. Continue. I think it was Zach Lowe I read talked about this, but they both have become very ball dominant since KD left and since Harden left. 100%. But I think what Alex is saying is that as best buddies as you could be off the court, when you're on the
Starting point is 01:05:51 court, that personality often is the same. An extension of that, they're close because they were close in OKC. Harden seemed like the guy that they were both closer to. They grew up together. Yeah, they played ball together. They played ball together. That makes sense. And then they're both in OKC playing together. They played ball together. And they're both from LA. That makes sense. And then they're both in OKC playing together.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Right. So they've made it through all that. There's another thing. They're both from LA. I'll just say gang time. Crips. They were all at Nipsey's funeral sitting next to each other. It's difficult for them to put on that Houston red. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Didn't, yeah, I remember you telling me that and I forgot. But anyway, yeah, I think they'll be fine for that. They should have played for the Clippers, bro, and just do that one LA Clippers jersey. Did you see what Karan Butler tweeted over the weekend? He said what they should do this year to, like, honor, like, Nipsey and, like, gang unity. Yeah. Have, like, they, I think, like, somebody mocked up, like, a Crenshaw Lakers jersey. Oh, I thought that was real.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Nah, it was, like, somebody just mocked up like, a Crenshaw Lakers jersey. Oh, I thought that was real. Nah, it was like, somebody just mocked it up, and it just went viral. And they were like, could you imagine if they have a game, at the Englewood fucking forum, and have like,
Starting point is 01:06:53 the Lakers and the Clippers, one team, with Crenshaw, yeah, and like, they bring out all the fucking, all that shit, and do it for Nipsey, whatever,
Starting point is 01:06:58 and I'm like, I mean, we'll never do that, but like, that's a nice thought. Keep that shit in the two league, dog. I'm saying like,
Starting point is 01:07:05 I'm like, oh, I don't know if they're going to go that far. They love Nipsey in the NBA, but it'd be nice to see, but I wouldn't say that. What were you saying, though, Ankar? They're just both, I think I was saying, now they're both so ball-dominant that as close as they were, even in OKC, playing together, it's going to be different
Starting point is 01:07:21 now. And I think it's going to be the Miami Heat the first year, where it's a lot lot of like, I defer to you, you defer to me, we don't really know because neither one of us wants to. I think it will be the opposite. I think they were way too polite in Miami. I think it was way too polite. That was the issue. Is it yours or is it mine? I don't think Harden and Westbrook
Starting point is 01:07:38 have that at all. I think Westbrook's like, I want that rock, and Harden's like, I want that rock. I want that rock too. I think it works though. I don that rock too. But what I think is – I think it works though. Okay. I don't think it works, but what I – I don't think it works, but I think it – I think they can both handle each other better than Chris Paul. Like Chris Paul is annoying, right?
Starting point is 01:07:57 Because while the players in the league respect Chris Paul's ability, they don't see him as a bucket getter. Like nobody in the league, at the end of the day, the alphas in the league get buckets, right? So when they see a guy who's like cute at passing, they're like, that's adorable, but that, like you're not a real basketball player. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:17 Like none of these guys look at John Stockton and go, he was dominant. Can you get buckets or can you not? So I think they look at Chris Paul like, yeah, just set me up. Do your little cute shit where you put your hip in the dude's groin. Get my man on you and then give me the ball so I can get buckets and do what men do. I forgot who said it.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I think Kendrick Perkins said the one thing about Chris Paul that people hate playing with him is because even coaches, he has to let everybody know that he knows the most out of everyone on the court. Right. And that could wear on a lot of people. Like, if you're the L.A. Clippers and, like, Blake Griffin's young and DeAndre Jordan's young and all these guys are, like, willing to listen to you and Doc Rivers just won the championship and he trusts you with all this shit. They didn't get along. That could work. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And they didn't even get along because he always thought he knew more than Doc Rivers. I'm not telling you about Chris Paul. I said he's the type of dude whose grandkids won't like him. Grumpy ass Chris Paul. Real talk. He literally is that type of personality. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:12 I just feel like this situation with Westbrook and Harden, there's more respect because Harden's like, all right, I know I can't stop Westbrook. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Like, I know Harden looks at Chris Paul and goes, I can stop you if I need. Yeah. You're going to get your little foul line extended jumper line extended jumper last smash that you can't stop me But Westbrook and hard and look at each other like you want to go or what? Westbrook's a force of nature bro like that and so far and so it's hard but in different ways Yeah in different ways. Neither of them are stopping each other. So you have to respect them like
Starting point is 01:09:44 Yeah, in different ways. Neither of them are stopping each other. So you have to respect them like Whereas I yeah, I just think that we kind of overrate Chris Paul's respect in the league I don't really think guys respect. Oh, I don't think they like him. No, they don't like them I think it's double. I think they don't like him and I think they're like he's alright I mean he's getting to that point now though Cuz remember and I always used to say this I always just say like yo give the same energy To Chris Paul that you give to Melo. Because they have essentially the same accolades. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Right? But people kind of give point guards a little bit more, you know, leeway. Because, like, oh, you're a point guard. You must know this, this, that, and the third. Well, Melo was just the guy with, like, I'm a scorer and that's it. And, you know, people didn't, like, think he could. Well, you can see Chris Paul making the game easier for his teammates on the court. I just think off the court, the fact that you're unlikable has probably impacted you in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Of course. Imagine how unlikable you've got to be where when you play with that person, you undeniably play better and you still hate him. Still hate him. Think about how wildly unlikable. This guy makes me money and I still hate him. He's going to make you $5 million more minimum on your next contract just by being on the team with him. You're going to average five more points a game minimum just by him being on your team. You're going to get all easier shots.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Everything goes up. But he's so mind-bogglingly fucking annoying that you'd rather him not be on the team. You know what just hit me? The fucking – so the Rockets just signed Tyson Chandler, right? Oh, yeah. And they said – I like that move. I like that move.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And they said he was thinking about coming back for another season, but he had to wait to see what the Rockets were going to do. And the fact that they got rid of Chris Paul. Oh, shit. After they got rid of Chris Paul, that's when he was like, all right, I'll come play for the Rockets. And they were teammates, too, so he knows Chris Paul's annoying. He's legitimately, like, you can put numbers,
Starting point is 01:11:22 so he's legitimately made him millions of dollars. And Tyson Chandler was still like, eh eh I'll wait till you get rid of him Did you guys see Now they're saying that this is bullshit, but did you guys see The press conference after the Rockets lost with Harden Where he says To ask them what do you think you need to do in the offseason
Starting point is 01:11:39 He goes, I know what we need to do, and they're like, what is it? He goes, no, we're going to talk to some people Now, everybody's applying that to the trade He's's saying it's not he's saying it was like some administrative shit this that the other but that is administrative shit like logan it's like i know what we need to do we need to get this bum off the team right with no bicep definition yo chris paul got fat girl arms like if he goes like this is yo real talk if you look at chris paul's arms they look like beyonce fans oh that's how the beehive is built no that's how the beehive is built you don't even like black women bro i love your white bitches from toronto and shit oh my god got as much facial hair as a beehive, too.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Let's say the barbs. Let's just say the barbs. The barbs. They don't exist anymore. The barbs fell off. Holy shit. The barbs is gone. Man, remember that?
Starting point is 01:12:35 Son, Andrew beat the barbs. Ain't that crazy, son? Andrew took down the fucking barbs, dog. Let's go, son. Y'all don't want this smoke. They got shook down by the Kens out here, son. The barbs took themselves out. The Kens out here, son.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Running shit. Flex on them. Hopping my Wrangler, bitches. The asshole army and the hot girls took them out. Real talk. Real talk. I fuck with hot girls, bro. I fuck with the hot girls, man.
Starting point is 01:12:58 That's the Megastallion. City girls, all their fans. I love this beef. The city boys versus the hot girls. No beef. The city boys versus the hot girls. No, no. City boys versus the hot girls. I don't even know about this. It's fucking brilliant.
Starting point is 01:13:13 It's just fun shit, man. You got to follow Duval. He's doing play-by-play on it. So basically, any time a girl fucks over a dude, let's say kicks a dude out of her house or makes a dude look stupid. It's like hot girls up by 20. Back to you.
Starting point is 01:13:27 They get points. And then anytime a dude does some shit like this dude kicked his girl out on the on the on the freeway. And she just started walking out the car on the freeway. And some other dude was filming like, oh, shit, that's 50 points for us. City boys killing it. So they've created this like hilarious dynamic. And you like make this down he gets all she's absolutely like so tweet stuff and be like oh man it's a
Starting point is 01:13:51 long summer we're still we're still down but we not out and I don't like any Thompson should happen to them like future Twitter some shit is even in the game huh they're in the consolation bracket. The Barbz are about as real as those unicorns. Beehive is at the game. They're just at the concession stand getting fucking Raisinets in. Yeah, see, I'm still not going to fuck with Beehive, bro. I'm not going to fuck with Beehive, bro. I'm Beehive.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I saw mine. That's how I know they're annoying. No, no, no. You're not Beehive. You like Beyonce. You're a Beyonce fan. We're Beyonce fans. We're not fat girls with nothing to do.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Oh, my God. Fat girls with nothing to do. Oh, my God. Fat girls with nothing to do are beehives. Right? Fat girls with nothing to do, bro. The only exercise their arms get is tweets. That's why they look like fucking Chris Paul. Just fat ass arms wearing a white beater. Fuck out of here, bro.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Built like a pile of mud. Built like the Dookie emoji. Real talk. That's how they built like the Dookie emoji. Real talk. That's how they built like the Dookie emoji, bro. That's what they say about Thor in Endgame. They look like melted ice cream.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Real talk. Thor in Endgame is how these fucking Beyonce girls look, bro. I mean that 100%. Built like a honeycomb. Oh, man. Built like...
Starting point is 01:15:01 Built like a honeycomb. Real talk. Built like fucking minions Will be who said that shit they look like the mucinex Because it was some girl had like green on just like some girl had like green on just like shit. Oh yeah, it looked like the mucinex, son. Bitch looked like a wisdom tooth.
Starting point is 01:15:27 I saw that one. That shit killed me. Somebody posted Who was it? Somebody posted this dude. It was Duval. Had a dude in his, what's it called, shorts? In his rich broke shorts. And he was fat up top and he had skinny legs. Some shit goes, he looked
Starting point is 01:15:43 like a wisdom tooth. You know how the wisdom tooth so fun making fun of fats oh fatties son beyonce fans but shouts to beyonce though we love beyonce love beyonce queen b queen b hate that motherfucking Beehive. That Beehive is some shit. Kingdom don't deserve you, then Beehive don't deserve you. Facts, facts, facts. You see the Lion King this weekend, bro?
Starting point is 01:16:13 I ain't seen no fucking Lion King. I got my ticket. See, I got my ticket with Beyonce fans. Exactly, bro. God damn. You better get there early so you beat these bitches stampeding in the fucking theaters. No, real talk. I heard they used actual Beyonce fans to kill Mufasa.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. No, they did. All the extras. They were going to CGI it, and they were like, why don't we get these fat bitches to be tweeting about Beyonce all day long to just run down this hallway. They made quite an impact in cinema. I remember Jurassic Park
Starting point is 01:16:45 when the water would just shake. Real talk. That was a Beyonce fan breathing. Breathing is what I was going to say. Yeah, that was a Beyonce fan.
Starting point is 01:16:51 She just took one deep breath. She just went Just the nose. Water just shaking. Are y'all trying to say instead of wildebeest the wildebeest?
Starting point is 01:17:04 Yo, the wildebeest was doing that shit yo we're gonna get back to making fun of these uh beyonce fans a second but yo we got a new sponsor y'all oh we got a new sponsor we got a new sponsor y'all we out here killing it now akash um this is the beauty of of when we get sponsorship is when there's organic symmetry yeah so i was telling akash about the new sponsor and he goes oh i know them i already of when we get sponsorship is when there's organic symmetry. Yup. So, I was telling Akash about the new sponsor and he goes, oh,
Starting point is 01:17:28 I know them. I already subscribed to them. Been subscribed. Been subscribed. I was like, word? He goes, yeah,
Starting point is 01:17:33 absolutely. I said, Akash, then take it away, my brother, because you know this. Go for it. It's my first time
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Starting point is 01:17:45 The company is The Athletic. Yes. It is a sports website. I love The Athletic. That's awesome, bro. Yeah, that's my friend. That's awesome, bro. Bro, we out here.
Starting point is 01:17:54 We got that. Synergy, dog. Go on, talk to us. It is a sports website. You have to subscribe to it, but it is legit, good, in-depth journalism. It's not like a bunch of shitty pieces that you read on some other websites or like you gotta pay a really high price to read the good articles.
Starting point is 01:18:09 This is a reasonably priced website that has good sports articles. I've brought articles from The Athletic to do segments here. Oh, really? We had one about LeBron and Kyrie and how everything split apart and like evaporated with them too and that was an article I read on The Athletic. Right. Couple news from The Athletic. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:25 A couple of dudes from The Ticket, The Station I always listen to, write for the Dallas pages. So like I pick my favorite teams are the Cowboys and the Mavericks. And there's dedicated writers. So you can follow certain teams or you can follow cities as well. You can follow certain teams.
Starting point is 01:18:37 So I don't have to follow the Rangers because we don't want to give a fuck about baseball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Frank Gassolo who writes all the Knicks stuff and the NBA stuff for them. Oh, I know Frank Gassolo. He writes for the Post, right?
Starting point is 01:18:47 He got Shams, dog. You remember the Shams is over there? Oh. And my boy Big Was, who did the show together for Uninterrupted, LeBron James. He has the Count the Dings podcast with Amin and all those other guys. That's on The Athletic as well. Interesting. I fuck with The Athletic, man.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah, that'd get dope, man. Yeah, dude. It is from, you know, obviously I looked it up a little bit. I wasn't as privy to it as you guys were. But for me, it seems like it's more of the in-depth article. It's not just recapping like the stats. No. This is like a theory or an opinion.
Starting point is 01:19:16 There's some really good articles on there, yeah. Yeah, and it's cool. And what I kind of like is when you get into this downtime of sports, the baseball time of sports. Yeah. The baseball time. Right? There actually more time to cook up theory. I think this is when articles are actually at their best in sports for me. Because now we've got some time to think about something interesting about basketball. During the season, it's like, okay, we're off to the races.
Starting point is 01:19:39 What's good? Okay, are the Rockets going to do it? But when you've got a little time, we're going to tell you how that offenseets going to do it? But when you got a little time, we're going to tell you how that offense is going to work in Houston. We're going to tell you what the Clippers should do during midseason, this, that, the other. So I don't know. It's cool.
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Starting point is 01:20:59 So you're that devout in terms of like following a writer and their perspective on a team yeah i mean especially with this and like finding the topics i try to read a bunch of sports stuff but then sometimes that's like kind of work and then it's like oh i could read about the cowboys it's just fun we're probably not gonna talk about it do you will you read an article about something this is for you too cas will you read an article about something that you might not really be that interested in but you like the writer so much that you'll all the time yes all the time yeah absolutely there's a few guys i really like from sports illustrated uh i like chris mannix a lot from um si i think he's at yahoo now okay um i forgot the dudes uh lee jenkins another really
Starting point is 01:21:43 good writer he's somebody who Anything He did the LeBron letter Who did MJ at 50 Wright Thompson He had one about Tiger I wasn't That interested in Tiger
Starting point is 01:21:53 And I read it And it was a fucking great So there are certain guys That you You believe in so much That you're like Okay I'll give this Article about baseball
Starting point is 01:22:01 A try Or give this article About volleyball a try Because you're gonna have An interesting perspective Yeah another guy Don Van Nat I was looking up his name. Don Van Nat, another guy. Writes like crazy
Starting point is 01:22:08 in-depth pieces that are like, if you're remotely interested in the subject, just read it. It's good. One of my first favorite writers was We should get one of these guys here that does long form pieces. Not the quick shit like the guy here. Don Van Nat is a dude who writes in-depth. Same with write in-depth. They spent
Starting point is 01:22:24 Don Van Nat has spent a whole summer with Jerry Jones. See, I'm curious about that process because a dude who writes in depth same with right like in depth they spent now i'm in at it's been a whole summer with jerry jones see i'm curious about that process because that piece is a written documentary yeah that's what they are right that's what they are it's not like oh we caught a few minutes with him after the game it's like no they follow you yeah to wherever it's like oh he had something for breakfast and my man just drank johnny walker blue with jerry jones every day for an entire summer we gotta find out like what makes these guys wanna do that
Starting point is 01:22:47 with the written word and why I mean that's what I wanted to do for most of my career really yeah I mean that's what I did
Starting point is 01:22:52 with like rappers but you also did television too you've produced you know these guys don't have a huge interest in being in front
Starting point is 01:22:57 of the camera being a celebrity yeah like I mean that's you know that was my break when I was at the Source and like Hip Hop Wired and Stash
Starting point is 01:23:04 and all that shit like it was following you know the careers at the Source and Hip Hop Wired and Stash and all that shit. It was following the careers of rappers and some athletes. And the only reason why I got into the athletic stuff was because I wrote so much good shit on rappers that they needed somebody to go cover the sports shit. And they wanted to be in those stories with hip hop culture as well. So that's how that all worked out. But yeah, people make a great living doing that shit too man just like making those great stories when you know i mean it's a little harder now because it's digital and like emotional motivation i mean the emotional motivation is like me when i grew up like i grew up on these magazines you know and
Starting point is 01:23:40 i think the written word just kind of got a little devalued a little bit just cuz you know shits digital now and you know I guess and it's a different it's a different feeling there's definitely power to the written word it's just it's a little different when something clicks now and it goes viral and a lot of people are reading it but to me it was just the fact that I could hold something in my hand like I created this like that was it for me like I didn't need any more something about a quote that like it becomes factual yeah right like if something is written about you right and and we use that excerpts it's like you know Akash Singh is is a marvel of a comedian is this generation's Indian voice or something like that it doesn't matter really where that's written. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:25 The fact that it's like written in quotes, for some reason you're like, okay, that's- I believe that. Why the fuck is that? I don't know. Why do we, why is it- Because it's journalistic integrity, man. Like, it's not just somebody-
Starting point is 01:24:36 So we still value the words that are on paper more? It depends who. I just believe what people tell us. And something about seeing it, yeah, this is I guess what you're getting getting at but seeing it somehow makes it more legitimate than hearing it I think also it's like a hard bar in rap yeah so you'll remember a bar you won't remember the song you might not even remember who said the bar but you'll just remember your favorite rappers favorite rapper whatever it is
Starting point is 01:25:00 you like so it's like a real did real songs with big no made-up shits yeah those are hard bars. Hard bars. Like to put in words together, even comics, like when you guys, if you just say something a little bit differently,
Starting point is 01:25:12 it like can change the whole meaning of it. So you're saying it's more than just the fact that it's written. It's often that this thing that's written is... Just done so well.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Is done with art. Yeah. It's done with care. Okay, I think that's fair. And there's something about these in-depth pieces that I identify with as a stand-up where like there's so many fucking bloggers out there and like soft articles that mean nothing and i look at them like that's cool they serve
Starting point is 01:25:34 a purpose it's like vine videos that's cool that thing but then like an in-depth thing where you follow the guy for a whole summer and you write it's like stand- up to me it's like i get there's not as much room for this maybe but like this still is art that you put something into or like this is a journalist okay go ahead when you have one of these long pieces we're talking about like a long piece right when you sit with that are you consuming that in one sitting or are you knowing that you're coming back multiple and i enjoy like i don't want to finish it i want to come back to it when i'm like bored i think that's why i get fucked up is because i'm in this pressure yeah i'm like wait do i have to finish
Starting point is 01:26:14 this right now maybe i have to remove myself from that expectation and treat it more like a book yeah right yeah it's a mini book. It is a mini book. Yeah. Interesting. Okay, what were you saying? No, I mean, like, just, I got a journalism degree. Like, that was what I went to school for and all that sort of shit. So when you're making a...
Starting point is 01:26:33 So when you're doing these long pieces, like, you're essentially saying, like, this is an authorized telling of this person's life. It's almost like a small autobiography that you get from them because they're giving you the access they trust your word you've built up your reputation enough so you know fucking this rapper who's or this person who's very well known trust you with this person's story yeah you can't write an autobiography for everybody that's like a novel
Starting point is 01:27:00 long but if you can give a small window into someone's life for that long especially now with the advent of like social media you can kind of see instant reaction right whereas back in the day if you wrote like a bad story and you know the person that it's on didn't really fuck with it they just kind of had to eat it or like they'd catch you in traffic or some shit but y'all that shit that you wrote about me was fucked up yada y, yada, yada. Now it's almost like you spent a week with Donald Trump, and here's the story on it, and Trump is like, this is a great story. You're kind of looking at it like, all right. It's almost like a cosign.
Starting point is 01:27:37 You know what I'm saying? It's weird. It's weird. There's so many other things that come to – There's other layers, especially for people listening right now that aren't as old as us and grew up completely in the digital age. Maybe they don't have the same connection to it, but there was a time where there was a lot less things said. Yes. That's the perfect way to put it.
Starting point is 01:27:57 And where they were said was often in print. Yeah. And there were a handful of names that wrote about things, right? Especially sports. We can name the sports writers of our childhood. Oh, yeah. The Peter Vessies. Bob Lee.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Woody Page. All of those. So think about that, right? There were a handful of opinions. Even Skip Bayless. Skip, right? There was, realistically, nationally, there was probably 10 opinions on You can skip Bayless. Skip. Right? Like, there was, realistically, nationally, there was probably
Starting point is 01:28:26 10 opinions on basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe less. There was one show. It was the sports reporters on Sunday. Dude.
Starting point is 01:28:34 They would have all the reporters sit in the fucking desk and they would talk about their fucking takes of the week. So think about that. That was pre-first take, pre-all that shit. Saying that a player
Starting point is 01:28:43 was overrated. Right? It became truth. Yeah. a player was overrated right it became truth because there was less to dispute it now one article is saying lebron is the best ever and the next article is saying lebron's not even top five and the credibility takes a hit because everybody needs attention so let's just say the wildest thing which is skips mo you didn't have to do that because you were the attention and that's where the journalistic integrity was a big fact it's like why do i i don't need to say some shit-to-back. Because you were the attention. And that's where the journalistic integrity was a big factor. It's like, why do I?
Starting point is 01:29:05 I don't need to say some shit I don't believe. Whoa. Not that many of us. So this fake news thing, it's not that fake news has always existed, but it is a product of a lack of interest in news, or rather a product of competition of ideas. Oversaturation. And it's also a product of more voices. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Oversaturation of ideas, right? So it's like just as you increase production, quality goes down. You know, like when you start as a clothing brand that has one store in Soho, the shirts are made with the finest silks or whatever. Eventually, when you're in Walmart, you're down to like cotton hybrids. Free birds burritos in Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara is amazing. And then it becomes. It became a chain and now it's whatever.
Starting point is 01:29:45 It's whack, right? So the same thing happens with journalism. It's like when you have way more opinions, we have to water it down. Yeah. Or they end up getting watered down. So in order to spike up and get some sort of interest, you have to have the craziest idea. Yeah. That's kind of why I got out of the game.
Starting point is 01:29:59 That's why fake news exists. Yeah. Yeah. That 100%. That's the thing with bloggers. That's why they're hard It's easy to shit on them They're easy targets
Starting point is 01:30:07 Because it's like Yo, your whole thing is just Trying to make a career on an opinion So you pick the wildest opinion Right Say what? Oh yeah, that's right When they fucking
Starting point is 01:30:17 What was the article? People are more likely to click Oh, it was the seizure clip Yeah People are more likely to click Andrew Schultz makes jokes about woman seizure than Andrew jokes Andrew Schultz makes light of tense
Starting point is 01:30:30 situation in comedy show you know what I mean I gotta get people to click we're all trying to eat everybody trying to eat I mean like I guess we're in that same we're in that same boat the tricky thing with us is like I think you lose value with
Starting point is 01:30:46 your listeners if you lie so we have to find the sexiest way to describe something that you feel actually satisfies the expectation so when we say like the economics of porn or the real way porn stars make money motherfucker it better be the real way yeah they make money right it's like because you lose credibility man and and before when you lose credibility you would just kind of like write another article you can write another article and make it up but like now if you lose credibility that can literally affect your bottom line well i'm not clicking on that shit because you lie to me yeah like i used to watch vlad tv all the time and then like five years later when i just see it's bullshit half the time and just like all right i when I just see this bullshit half the time I'm good I used to do it a bunch and I appreciate Vlad
Starting point is 01:31:29 for putting me on you know giving me that opportunity yeah but um it was weighing on me like I would get an Instagram every single fucking time it's just like the Adam 22's of the world like the no jumpers like that get like even that's how DJ that. That's how academics got on. I fuck with Adam, though. I fuck with Adam. Why is he called no jumper? I have no fucking idea.
Starting point is 01:31:51 No, it wasn't a Gucci main balling like this, but I got no jumper or something. I think it's a Gucci main. Balling like a whatever, but I got no jumper. Why don't you fuck with Adam? He got to Tiana Trump first I just think the shit he does is kind of like very detrimental to like hip-hop community like what like the shit that he like the shit that he perpetuates because he has such a strong following right that you know and one
Starting point is 01:32:21 time you know hip-hop culture granted it's great and how healthy it is and there's different avenues for different shit, so you don't just got to be like, oh, this is what I like. That's everything. It's like, fuck it. But now it's just like when you know that the negative shit works and you just do it over and over and over and you kind of really don't care
Starting point is 01:32:40 about the blowback from any of that shit because you're kind of eating off it, even though you're kind of destroying a lot of people's lives that you may not notice it because you kind of got horse blinders on right it's it's it's real distasteful you know what I mean like and you know motherfuckers like die over shit like that like why would you think that he's he's promoting people's lives being destroyed and that's the thing like he's not outwardly doing it but like I feel like once you get that sort of power, you kind of use it.
Starting point is 01:33:06 You got to use it responsibly. And I don't think he does it. I'll say what Kaz is trying to say. He finds all the young SoundCloud rappers, which tend to be black, takes advantage of them because they're young fucking drug head, pill head. And they're not at his experience yet. Yeah. head pill head and they're not at his experience yet and so he exploits all the fucked up shit that they're doing because these
Starting point is 01:33:27 young kids don't realize you know the full rape of questions that can happen and Adam is just profiting off that how are you going to
Starting point is 01:33:34 try to cliff nose Kaz and then talk for longer than I know I know I understand what you're saying I understand what you're saying I guess and
Starting point is 01:33:43 maybe Adam looks at it like I'm I'm curating these guys' careers. Like sometimes you come on my platforms and I post your shit and you could do tours and actually make real money. Yeah, so talk about the music. Don't talk about the fuck shit. But we all know that we care way more about fuck shit than we do music, right? Yeah, which is, you know, that's why Worldstar. He knows that they can get in trouble.
Starting point is 01:34:03 So it's like he knows that this stuff – But he's not forcing nobody to say anything, right? I think your argument is like they're young and naive and it's like you know that this is maybe bad for them. Yes. Right? So it's like you're – They look at it as predatory. Yeah, you have like a social responsibility to it.
Starting point is 01:34:19 But what I'm saying is maybe – just because I fucked with Adam. All I've been cool with me and I've been cool with him. Maybe the way he looks at it is here are these young kids that I'm actually giving an opportunity to make legit money so they don't have to be out here doing this hustle shit, do this fuck shit. Like you can actually just make your music and if I give you the outlet and I organize these tours for you and that kind of stuff, now you don't got to be selling drugs in the street and fucking shooting people. Which I totally understand. I just don't need to respect it no and i'm saying maybe that's his like remember i'm always trying to judge people off intent no i get it maybe that's his i totally get it and obviously and honestly like i'm sure there's a lot of truth to that but at the same time it's like i don't need to respect it like i've seen it done a different way i've
Starting point is 01:35:00 seen it done better ways that didn't lead to other shit so it's like all right i see what you're getting that and i can't hate on you for getting your money and getting other people's money, but I've seen it done ways where it doesn't lead to something so destructive. So I'm just like, I'm good on it. That's fair. It's almost the way I look at TMZ. It's like, they're pretty credible most of the time. It's just
Starting point is 01:35:17 the way they have to go about getting their clicks is like, come on, son. I just feel that way. You can do it better, but you choose you know i just feel that way like you can do it better but you choose to just go about it that way yeah which i don't respect as much but i still see why you do what you do and and to be fair that's kind of how i looked at barstool at first before like i really started to you know see you know visit the site and visit the content kind of see what they were going at i kind of used to look at Barstool like, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:47 like it was kind of like fucked up content that they would post and the way they would do it. The biggest misconception of Barstool is that people don't realize they're in on the joke. Yeah. Like if you actually are a fan of Barstool, they're making fun of themselves. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Francis Ellis is super self-aware. He's not Barstool anymore, but super self-aware of how you see him. Even if you go to the account, they're calling these white dude bros that are doing shit, they call them Chad. Oh, yeah. If the caption is like, Chad, finding the love of his life, and it's like a dude just making out with his pit bull or some shit like that.
Starting point is 01:36:21 They've commodified bro culture. They've commodified it, but they're not un-self-awareaware of it right they're like we understand the absurdity of this we will absolutely absolutely but the average chick that writes about it and says it's sarcastic she has no clue that they're also making fun that's the thing that's what i didn't get at first before when i used to watch i used to be like oh man this is fucking terrible how did i know it wasn't until i knew like it's almost like it's more of a condemnation on how you feel about it, the way you react, than how they do. You know, like, it's like, if you're offended by this, you're kind of part of the problem because they're in on a joke. Like, how are you not in on a joke?
Starting point is 01:36:57 You think it might be the same with Adam, you know, Jumper? It might be. I just know that there's different ways to go about it. Like, I get it more with Barstool because, toool because to me I guess Like sports is a little bit more fair Whereas hip-hop like this I just I know the politics of it like I know the politics of why Yeah, like most losing on that at the end of the day like you say whatever you want to trade in killing nobody Yeah, right Well, you could say whatever you I could say fuck Boston all day long like all they do is just beat the shit out the Giants
Starting point is 01:37:23 And the Jets all year and it's like, all right, well, there's a fairness in sport that there isn't in music. That is fair. All right, what else we got? I wanted to do some of the Discord jokes. Ben Simmons got a Max Wimbledon final World Cup of Cricket. There's also CB4,
Starting point is 01:37:39 a quote I sent you guys, and also Pernell Whitaker, if you wanted to say something. Yeah, I was about to say, I'd I would give you the floor to talk about that. Pernell Sweet Pea Whitaker, rest in peace. This is the greatest defensive boxer, arguably, in history. Over Floyd. Some might say over Floyd. And, I mean, literally impossible to hit.
Starting point is 01:37:59 And he ends up dying by getting hit by a car. The great irony that that is. That literally could not be hit in the ring. And then when he was walking down the street in Virginia Beach, I mean, he was born and raised in Norfolk. I guess he's in Virginia Beach and he just gets hit by a car and he fucking died. But he was truly one of the greatest boxers I've ever seen in my entire life. I would watch his YouTube compilations of him dodging punches.
Starting point is 01:38:22 He had this amazing ability to be within punching range but not punchable. So he was a guy who could stand toe-to-toe with you. And he just knew exactly what you were going to throw, when you were going to throw, how to dodge it, how to move, and then counter you beautifully. And he was just one of the best boxers in history. So rest in peace, CP. Shout out to Max Kellerman, man. I used to watch his show back in the day before he really blew up. And Pernell Whitaker used to always be on the show.
Starting point is 01:38:51 And that's how I kind of really got to know him and how dope he was. Because it was like in the era of when heavyweight boxing was super popping, like the Tysons, the Holyfields, and all that shit, and just big knockouts were the thing. His show was popping because nobody could hit the motherfucker. Nobody. He was fucking magic in there. So I used to love watching his shit.
Starting point is 01:39:11 And rest in peace to Sweet Pea. There's a great clip. I'm sure it's popping all over Instagram right now. But of the first time that or when he fought Oscar De La Hoya. And De La Hoya ended up winning the fight by decision. But De La Hoya throws maybe 15 punches in a row at Pernell Whitaker, and he misses every single punch, like some real deal Matrix type shit. And he's just lunging with another one, another one, another one.
Starting point is 01:39:34 He just keeps missing. He does a little dance, and then the round ends. And it's like that is sweet pea right there in a nutshell, just un-fucking-hittable, man. I mean, look at this. Watch this. Here's the clip. Watch. This is, I don't know if this is the exact one I'm thinking of but it's probably now and it starts maybe
Starting point is 01:40:01 I heard it. Miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss. Salsa on that ass. Let's go. I mean, this guy was fucking majestic. Look at this. Jesus. Jesus. That's unreal.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Shout out to Judge Mills Lane, man. The legend. Oh, yes. The rep. Hell yeah. But no, there was something else that I texted you today. What was it again? Drake's crib.
Starting point is 01:40:29 No, no, no. You just mentioned it. The Discord jokes, CB4 and Mello, the tweet. Oh, Ben Simmons. Oh, yeah. For some reason, the Philadelphia 76ers have maxed out Ben Simmons. Yeah, that was a funny laugh. That was Kaz, by the way.
Starting point is 01:40:50 There was no little girl that just came in the room. What the fuck is going on, Kaz? I could not believe it. How do you max out Ben Simmons? He has proven that not only can he not shoot, he doesn't even care to learn.
Starting point is 01:41:06 He's been in the league three years. You don't even learn how to shoot in three years? You know what? It's kind of admirable. It's kind of admirable. No. Like, how does he get good at every, like, he's good at everything.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Because he's 6'9". Except the one thing you need to be good at. He's 6'9". That the one thing you need to be good at. He's 6'9". That's why. You know why Benjamin is so fucking fascinating to me? He's like the walking analytic study. Like, he's the reason why plus minuses and fucking, you know, true shooting percentages and all this bullshit exists. He's the product of that shit.
Starting point is 01:41:43 I don't think he's treated as a superstar if he blows up in the 90s. If he's in the 80s and 90s, I don't think he gets superstar treatment. I don't think he gets maxed out treatment. But he's not good at three, so how is he... That's what I'm saying. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Because even if he can't shoot three, he can't shoot at all. He doesn't take them. Literally cannot shoot the best. He does not take them. You pay him max money. How? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:42:04 It's one thing if you can't shoot him and you just miss him and shit. He doesn't fucking take them. So, like, but he's a great passer, great rebounder, great defender, athletic as fuck. You can't play with him in the playoffs. The guy is, he will single-handedly lose you a game. I mean, lose you a series. In the playoffs, it really matters. You can't have a guy out there that can't shoot.
Starting point is 01:42:31 How do you max him out? Can someone tell me how you max him out? I think nobody's going to say it now, but definitely, I think you're going to be right in a few years. Definitely, if he doesn't start shooting at least this year. You got to at least take one a game. You got to shoot him. You have to shoot one a game. You fucking have to.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Let's say he develops a 12-foot jump shot, 15-foot jump shot. Just something where you could pump it. We're not going to pump fake a three or anything like that. He has a hook shot. Fuck the hook shot. I want you to be able to stop and pull up. You have to be able to do that. This is the NBA. You should be able to stop and pull up. You have to be able to do that. This is the NBA.
Starting point is 01:43:06 You should be able to stop and then pull up. I don't even think he needs to stop and pull up. Catch and shoot. Let's just try that. Like if a motherfucker's past you in the baseline. Don't even dribble. Just catch the ball and fucking shoot. Can you just put one up?
Starting point is 01:43:19 Dog, it is embarrassing. It's just embarrassing. I can't believe Akash can't go an hour and a half without taking a piss. I think that we gotta take away your water. Yeah, I think we give him a lot of water, bro. No, you're not allowed to drink water during the show anymore.
Starting point is 01:43:35 I'll deal with your thirst. We'll deal with your thirst. We'll deal with your thirst. The guy cannot go an hour and a half sitting down without taking a piss. We need to have a montage of baby bladder moments with Akash. He's the opposite of a camel. Whatever a camel can do, Akash is the exact opposite of that.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Who can't go an hour without peeing? He's like 4'11". The trip is quick for that water. It's fun. No, but the funny thing is that he pees for bad long. Bad long. He'll start before me. I go, and then I finish, and he's still going.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Really? Yeah. And I know it's weird that I'm like- How's he storing all this liquid? I'm like observing his pee. That's why he goes to the bathroom so much. You sit there and study his man's pee behavior. I don't even get it.
Starting point is 01:44:29 I do not get it. I swear he'd be calling his girl during his pee break. That's got to be it. He got to check in or some shit. There's no way. Hour and a half mark hits every podcast. He has to pee. How is this humanly possible?
Starting point is 01:44:46 There's no way you can't hold a pee. I think we gotta restrict water. No, first of all, there's no more two. He has to ration. He has to ration. We have to ration.
Starting point is 01:45:02 We're gonna give him one tiny cup of water. He gets a cup Nah we got to treat him like a pregnant bitch He only gets ice chips This is what you get from that one You got to deal with that That's what you got to deal with I'm going to give you a full glass of water
Starting point is 01:45:19 I think you can make it through a whole episode If you can do just one full glass I think I'm going to still have to pee. Let's just try. I can't. I mean, it's just unfathomable. What were we talking about before you left? The Simmons bags.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Oh, no, no. I want to get off of this. I just think it's such a horribly awful thing to do. Why the fuck would you do it? It's shocking. What else we got? We got where Chris Paul ends up. We got where Chris Paul ends up.
Starting point is 01:45:44 We got the Discord joke. So we had a picture of Carl Anthony Towns' fake off-whites that we put up on the Patreon. And Akash put it up in the Discord, and the Discord had some jokes about it. So we're going to see if you guys are funny. Let's see. Let's see where we go. All right. So.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Makram Merham. He's an effing bum. Why do you say effing? I don't know why. He's a fucking bum. Laughing my ass off. I let a holy shit out during the Nike broadcast. Dude cares about his shoe game like he cares about his career.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Doesn't give a fuck. Meh. Makram, we could do better. Next. Next. Cap brought his Nike. Yo, I got my own emoji. Look at this shit. I got my own emoji in the Discord if it's funny. Next. Next. Cat brought his Nikes. Yo, I got my own emoji. Look at this shit.
Starting point is 01:46:26 I got my own emoji in the Discord if it's funny. That's hot. That's hot. Cat brought his Nikes from that store Akash was running in India. That's good. That's funny. Cat rocking the Gujarati Ford. Shaska Finesse or Hudgens.
Starting point is 01:46:36 That's good. I like that one. Live footage of Cat trying to get some authentic shoes. That's good. I should have started with this one, Eddie. That's good. I should have started with this one, Eddie. That's good. And now, for those of you guys who can't see, it's a picture of Cat trying to back Boogie down, and he just cannot move him at all. All right.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Slim Reaper said, them shoes still worth more than any WNBA team. Damn. Damn. That's good. Those are definitely the new Megan Rapinoe Nikes she deserves. Sauce Boss. Oh new Megan Rapping those Nikes She deserves Sauce Boss Oh oh Megan rapping on Nikes
Starting point is 01:47:08 She deserves Oh you just read the tweet Okay Sauce Boss I need you to come harder With the I'll read this one for you You read the next one
Starting point is 01:47:14 Yeah yeah You think that the nigga Saving money on this thing Is able to find a way To pay for his mustache To reach his beard That's good So what if you
Starting point is 01:47:22 If your mustache Can't reach his beard Which y'all talking about That's Sometimes So what if you must have But y'all talking about that Sometimes that happens Looks like Kat and Ak got the same style Oh cause they got Ak with the fake Supreme He was rocking How did he tell?
Starting point is 01:47:38 How did he tell if that's fake Supreme? Supreme just never released that Ah okay They never made that? Alright Discord Y'all did alright Because Supreme just never released that. Ah, okay. I was like, they never made that? No shit. All right, Discord. Y'all did all right. Yeah, it was all right. A couple bangers.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Y'all came harder before. What's the trash? Those are the good ones that I got sent. Now, do we want to talk where CB3 goes? There's also a Chauncey Billups quote that I sent. Love it. Ellen. The meellow thing?
Starting point is 01:48:08 Ellen? Yeah. Ellen, can you pull that out, please? Wait, are we going to call him Ellen from now on? Hey, yo, it's Ellen. Dude, DJ Ellen, bro. That's your new nickname. You're going to get all the gigs.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Ellen DeGeneres. That's a diversity show. Swag. Ellen about to start dancing and shit. So basically, Chauncey Billups, you don't need to post So basically, Chauncey Billets basically said this. He goes, you know, Melo is an unbelievable player. The problem is that he always cared too much about scoring 30. And he goes, he might score 20 and the team would win,
Starting point is 01:48:40 and he wouldn't be that enthusiastic. But if he scored 30 and the team lost, he'd be going around the locker room like, come on, guys, we got that. I hate those guys. I hate those guys, bro. That's Melo. That's what Chazzy said.
Starting point is 01:48:52 And Chazzy said, and I've said this to Melo, scoring 30 means more to you than winning. And then he said that story of like, yo, they would win, but Melo wouldn't put up points and he'd be down and upset. Jesus Christ. He'd be upset? Sounds like it. Sounds like it. Sounds like it.
Starting point is 01:49:05 And he basically was saying that's why he's not in the league. He's like, he deserves to be in the league the way he can play and score. He's a league talent. He's a league talent. But he just cares too much about them buckets, man. I talked to Justin Jackson over the weekend, Sacramento Kings. He used to be on North Carolina, Tar Heels, whatever. And me and Van was there.
Starting point is 01:49:21 We was just talking about what's the difference between the league and just regular shit. There's way more politics than you think. There's so many people that should talking about, what's the difference between the league and just regular shit? It was like, there's way more politics than you think. There's so many people that should be in the league that aren't in the league for political ass shit. I was like,
Starting point is 01:49:32 is that how the metal shit's going? I was like, yeah, you could say that. There's so many people in the league that don't deserve to be in the NBA, but they just know people. It's crazy how you can take our point, agree with it,
Starting point is 01:49:42 and then make a point that completely disagrees with our point. I mean, it causes conversation, doesn't it? He's like, no, actually, I do see what you mean because Mello deserves to be in the league. Because it's just politics is why he's not here. No, he deserves to be in the league, but I'm just saying it's an addition to it. If you have the right agent. Listen, if you're a bum, the right agent can keep you in the league.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Absolutely. If you're elite, you're elite. There's not a single elite player that's not in the league. Because talent is the commodity. And Melo is elite at one thing. Scoring a basketball. And only wants to be elite at one thing.
Starting point is 01:50:17 And only wants to be elite at one thing. J.R. Smith is available now. You think he makes a team before Melo? Absolutely. I think they already said he's going to LA, right? That was the conversation piece? He got released just now. He just sent me this story. Even though he didn't get the text I sent him.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Who, Ellen? Ellen, yeah. Ellen, what were you saying? Maybe I sent it to Edna, not Ellen. Maybe that's why I got fucked up. Probably, yeah. Ellen, you really don't like that name, you Ellen-ass Ellen? Stupid fucking Ellen.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Fucking Ellen. Fucking Ellen, bro. Fucking Ellen, bro. Yo, show us your pussy Ellen can we play the remember back in a day when you could say that to your secretary go back in the day if you just worked at like an ad agency, we're talking about like the 50s, like you could be like on the phone trying to sell like Goodyear tires and then that shit wouldn't go well. You'd be pissed off. You'd be like, Patricia, come here and show me your pussy.
Starting point is 01:51:15 I'm pissed off a lot. Like that was just part of your day, right? Pour me a scotch and show me your cunt. Come on. It's like Mad Men. That's what he gets described. Episode one. Literally. That's how it worked okay ellen so tuck that cock between your legs and source that fucking china oh my god yeah it's funny i think um those weirdo chicks with that dress weird and with
Starting point is 01:51:41 all the tattoos i just think that pussy's different goths? yeah like the weirdo joints like the Portland women yeah the pale bitches that got tattoos yeah the pale bitches exactly yo you watch Euphoria?
Starting point is 01:51:52 no I heard that shit is wild it's a wild show it's a great show hold on what were you saying about these Portland bitches? I don't know it was just an observation
Starting point is 01:51:58 what about them? that their pussies are different? yeah just different in a way that I just don't know like like how? like the land of the unexplored and you just I don't get it. How does their pussies look like you know how they say Asians are sideways
Starting point is 01:52:10 We might have to edit that out Yo, first of all Rockaway coming out of this dude right now. We might have to edit that out. Yo, first of all, let me just ask y'all something about this. So, no, no, no. I gotta ask. I gotta ask this. Help me. I gotta ask this, right? Because, all right, look, right?
Starting point is 01:52:34 They say Asian girls' pussies are sideways, right? Who says that? Oh, you never heard that? That's a very common thing. That's a common thing. So they say Asian girls' pussies are sideways, right? That's like a common joke, right? And then you ask thing so they say asian girls pussy the sideways right that's like a common like joke right and then you ask your friends like yo why why they say that shit and they're like yo because their eyes be like that
Starting point is 01:52:51 their eyes ain't different they're not a lizard their eyes is just more closed so you could say their pussy is more closed But not their pussy is sideways Where does sideways come? I don't know Alex, why do you think? Please tell us why you think their pussy Open up sideways Please tell us
Starting point is 01:53:20 Yo, Alan, pull it up No, we gotta get to the bottom of this. Why do you think Asian girls pussy? Like, where was the logic in your head? When you first, like, when you hooked up with your first Asian girl, did you, like, slide your hand in there, like, opposite? Did you swipe it like a Metro card? Yo, like, you know how you finger a girl like this? Like, you go down there and go like that?
Starting point is 01:53:45 Like, did you go down there with the intent to, like, go back? Like, winch your wipers? You know what I'm saying? Like, you clean her out of gutter full of leaves, bro? Oh, my God. Shout out to the Asians, man. I love y'all. Shout out to the Asians, bro.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I never thought Asians' pussies were sideways. Yeah, that was just stupid. I thought they were a little smaller, man. I love y'all. Shout out to the Asians, bro. I never thought Asians' pussies were sideways. Yeah, that was just stupid. I thought they were a little smaller, though. They are smaller. Yes, man. They got to fit. You know, everything's made for the... Built for elasticity.
Starting point is 01:54:14 Can we say that? Of course. Look, a first baseman or a softball mitt is bigger. Do you know what I mean? Than the baseball mitt. Did you just Google? No. Sideways pussies? No, it's J.R. Smith's stuff. Oh Did you just Google? No. Sideways pussies?
Starting point is 01:54:25 No, it's J.R. Smith's stuff. Oh, okay. Not with that. No sideways pussies. What? A pedophile joke? Oh, no, no, no. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:54:33 No, no, no. That'd be wild. That's a wild-ass joke. Alex thought of a wild-ass fucking joke, bro. Well, you're not going to say it? I'm going to say it just because... I'm going to say it. Basically, I was doing this Comedy Central, this shit, this last week, this week at the Comedy Cellar.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Comedy Cellar, right. And they gave us some topics we had to write bits out. So we're coming back from Toronto Sunday, right? And I'm like, all right, Al, you got anything for this, man? I can't think of nothing. It was this Jeffrey Epstein guy, right? And you were like. Got quiet. Jeffrey Epstein is this billionaire who's like a Epstein guy. Right? And you were like, Jeffrey Epstein is this billionaire
Starting point is 01:55:08 who's like a pedophile. Right? And he goes, he goes, yo, like, maybe he's just got a small dick. Right?
Starting point is 01:55:18 And then I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, that's why he fucks girls. Like, because that's what fits. Wow. So, he said that shit. why he fucks girls like cuz that's what fits hundreds of thousands of people listen to this so this where it gets even crazier right behind a camera yeah that was Ellen this is where he gets yo then he goes i don't know if it was you or me that said the r kelly shit it was
Starting point is 01:55:50 you okay then he goes he goes and then r kelly like maybe he had a micropenis too you know it's like because he fucks little he fucks younger girls too right but they're a little bit older because yeah he had a micropenis but he's black so it's a little bit older because yeah he had a micro penis but it's a black one so it's a little bit bigger I thought it was a good joke I thought it was good I thought it was pretty good I liked it I used it
Starting point is 01:56:20 for the commisensual shit I like the premise it was alright the line with the premise. I like the premise. It was all right. The line with the R. Kelly shit hit. Because that's like the clever, absurd one. But there's no way in fucking hell that they would post that. There's no fucking way. But I think it's funny.
Starting point is 01:56:36 It's going to be hilarious. I'm watching Comedy Central this week and that's the clip. Yo, that's a funny joke about like the way I switched the joke when I did for the Comedy Central shit. Yo, that's a funny joke about like the way I switched the joke when I did for the comedy says the shit I said, I was walking by this Epstein protest and I saw these women holding up signs like, you micro penis piece of shit, you small dick pedophile bastard. And I started thinking like, oh shit, maybe that's why he's a pedophile. So I made them like, because that's what fits. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:04 You know what I mean? And then they're like Guys this is just physics I don't have any stake He's just trying to find something Alex said I went too far My thing on Epstein was that he was kind of genius Because like
Starting point is 01:57:18 Remember back in the day How weed was illegal in America So we would go to Amsterdam To smoke weed where it was legal right and it's like well girls was illegal in america so he bought an island that didn't have rules he just had pedophile amsterdam and then he got he got his own little hamster dam He got it That didn't make it Oh jeez
Starting point is 01:57:49 Yeah You should have hit the cutting room floor God damn it We'll see We'll see if we get some shit Alright what else we got before we gotta get out of here We wanna talk about Drake's career We wanna talk about where his CP3 is going next
Starting point is 01:58:00 What else we got We got anything outside the box Wimbledon Wimbledon was fucking wild Oh yeah you care about tennis. Make us a... I might be wrong. I might end up... I don't know how much longer they're going to say Roger Federer is the greatest
Starting point is 01:58:11 ever. This is why I say he's the greatest ever because the top three tennis players of all time, men's wise, are all playing right now. And he is playing against the other two all the time. And pretty much any tournament that gets won is getting won by one of them. So to have the most wins of all time playing against number two and there's no sport where this has ever happened right it's like michael jordan playing against bill russell
Starting point is 01:58:34 and whoever your third best player is now now again this is me just throwing out something else here but uh some might say that michael jordan was so much more elite than his competitors that there wasn't even a situation where the three best could be playing at the same time. Because he just won everything. Tournaments always, first of all, it starts with like 64 people, and then you work your way up to. The fact that the finals is always these three guys, two of these three, means that they're all the same.
Starting point is 01:59:01 They're all the best. And he's been, his first Grand Slam, they have like four majors like golf, his They're all the best And he's been His first Grand Slam They have like four majors Like golf His first win was 2003 And he's still And tennis You're supposed to stop
Starting point is 01:59:11 Being good around 30 Now technology The guy who beat him Is five years younger And he might end up With more wins Djokovic Might end up with more wins
Starting point is 01:59:18 Than Federer even It's so fucking crazy I've never seen a sport That's this top heavy Right And at 37 years old The guy's playing tennis for 5 fucking hours Unbelievable
Starting point is 01:59:26 It's the longest match final of that tournament's history I saw this, it could have been a clickbait article That said he sleeps like 12 hours a day Is that real? I don't know, I just know I've never seen anybody make anything look easier Why? Okay, so what I don't understand
Starting point is 01:59:42 And maybe it's just age But he loses in the final yeah but all the articles are about how incredible he is he's 37 there's 37 we also love him and we don't like the other guy jokovic and he was kind of young and punkish and there's something about him that like he gets really upset when the the crowd cheers for the other player and everybody just loves federer he's very classy but not like phony. Like I remember 10 years ago, whatever, when he was just beating the shit out of everybody,
Starting point is 02:00:07 they asked him after he won a tournament and he was like, yeah, I don't know. I'm just really playing unbelievable. It's just like, it's really crazy. It wasn't like cocky.
Starting point is 02:00:15 It was like, I don't get it. It's just unbelievable. He was like sheepish about it. It was just like, he owns it, but he's not being an asshole. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:21 It was like, he wasn't trying to brag. He's like, and he's right. That's one thing I do love about tennis though though, like how they get like interviewed like it's a sitcom and like the fucking, the crowd, it's like a laugh track. It's always like a fucking episode of Family Matters after every final. There's a cool thing.
Starting point is 02:00:36 I grew up, my uncle loved tennis and that was like my dad. So like, I just got into it. But like, there's a little cool moments. I remember a tournament, like think about the entire arena rooting for one other guy. It's two people on the court. And everybody hates you because you're not this guy. And I remember one match like five, six years ago. He was playing Federer.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Everybody, US Open's cheering for Federer. Federer's got match point. And he's serving. And serving's like a big advantage. So Djokovic looks up. Everybody's on their fucking feet. He just looks up. And then he just goes, okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:01:05 And then he gets into a turnstance, hits the serve back, this crazy shot, and then he just stands and stares at the crowd for like 15 seconds. And I was like, there's some Coliseum-type shit to it that's just like dope. Two men enter, one man leave type shit. Yeah, and this is just like if you like greatness, this is a cool time to watch tennis. Do you think he'll win another major? I don't know if Federer will because he's 37 and this guy just looks kind of unstoppable.
Starting point is 02:01:28 He's going to be in the way every time. And then the other guy, Nadal, there's one tournament that he wins every year. He's 13 French Opens and the number two guy has like five French Opens in history. Nadal is on clay. Clay, unstoppable.
Starting point is 02:01:40 13 French Opens, which is clay. Number two of all time is like five or something like that. It's insane. How much worse is he on the other fields? He's not as good. He's like noticeable. He's just definitely not as good. He's not awful, but he's definitely not as good. And those other
Starting point is 02:01:55 two are good on any surface. Is tennis the only sport that has multiple surfaces? I think so, yeah. It's kind of weird, isn't it? Well, football. I think it developed... Oh, that's right. Yeah, football has turf and grass. And sometimes baseball fields. But there was also like, there was an astroturf.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was a fake turf. Oh, that's interesting. I think it might have developed out of necessity where they just like, the U.S., it's too expensive to maintain grass courts. So they had clay and French had clay. Then concrete came around. Yeah. And they were like, yo, this is even easier to maintain, cheaper to maintain.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Let's do that. So now most tournaments. So US is concrete. Yeah. Now most tournaments are concrete because it's just the easiest. Put this in one time. It's going to last as long as not much maintenance. Let's just stick with that.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Have you played on grass? I haven't played on anything except the hard court. And I also haven't played in like 15 years since high school and a little bit of college. Do they say it's that different when you play on grass? Apparently it's much different. It's like wildly different. Yeah, grass is supposed to be real fast.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I was about to say, like I feel like the- I feel like you slip around all the time. You slip around. That's a thing you got to account for. On clay,
Starting point is 02:02:53 you got to account for slipping. Hardcourt, you got to be- Oh, that's right. Clay slides like crazy, right? Yeah, and hardcourt, you can't slide.
Starting point is 02:02:59 You'll tear your fucking ACL, so you got to play differently on all three surfaces. That's the thing with these sports. They don't know how to market them, man. I almost, maybe one day when we're fucking old, we'll have a marketing agency where we help sports out. Because like, to me, that's how you sell.
Starting point is 02:03:15 We'll get tennis exciting. Yeah, like, yes, we understand the tennis fans get it. But the casuals, like, tell me that someone could bust their ACL unless they play different on this concrete. Tell me this clay shit is going to be different. Like, show me the new stimulus every time I watch. It's exciting. There's a monotony to baseball, right?
Starting point is 02:03:34 There is a monotony to basketball even, right? A lot of people go, I'll just watch the fourth quarter. And tennis can be monotonous. You never know when the point's going to come. It's like a crazy rally. But, like, I'll zone out. I'm not, like, a fanatic. I enjoy it. But I'll zone out. I'm not a fanatic. I enjoy it.
Starting point is 02:03:46 But I'll zone out early in a match. Right. But I also just love individual sports and seeing this guy, Novak Djokovic, used to choke all the time. And me as a guy. He got over it. He just got over it. Now he's a fucking champion. And you see one person get over this thing.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Jordan had to conquer it. But he has teammates. He's the best by far. But he's got teammates. If it's just fucking you doing anything yeah it's crazy and you're not even allowed to consult with your coach that's what serena got in trouble for you know it's bad marketing because you said to me he's like oh i went 35 years and i never understood the point scoring process i was watching uh you love white sports I was watching He was watching Wimbledon
Starting point is 02:04:26 Yeah The thing When we were at the airport And it dawned on me I truly don't know How it's scored Yeah it's weird It goes like
Starting point is 02:04:33 15, 30, 40 15, 30, 40 Love is win If you Love is zero Point game Love is zero 15, 30, 40
Starting point is 02:04:41 And then you win And if you both have 40 That's a deuce And then it's basically Win by two Win by two And And if you both have 40 That's a deuce And then it's basically Win by two Win by two And then When you win that thing
Starting point is 02:04:48 That's called A game And you need How many games to be a set? Six If you're tied at six You go to a tiebreaker Right
Starting point is 02:04:55 That's what you were Explaining to me So the first to six Six win by two Win by two Or straight seven Or straight seven Yeah
Starting point is 02:05:03 Okay Six win by two or straight seven. But then the last set, that's why it went that long. It was like a tiebreaker. So that shit just kept going back and forth. How many sets do you need? Guys need to win four sets? Guys need to win three.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Three sets. Best of five. Women need to win two. Win two. Yeah. And that's why the girls' game is shorter. Yeah. And that's why it can go on forever because if they're tied.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Yeah. And there's only certain tournaments that are like the Grand Slams, I think three of the four have these things where you've got to win by two and then Wimbledon had an Andy Roddick Roger Federer match where the last set was like 49 to 51 or something crazy, so then they were like
Starting point is 02:05:38 and there was another game wasn't important, but it went like 80 to 79 or something like that so they're like look after 12 we're just gonna do tie breaks and if we're not gonna fucking do this anymore so that means whoever wins wins so at it was 12 all they went to it yeah they went to a tie break yeah no maybe we should go to the u.s open when is it late august september yeah late august early september i've been there before it was super fun yeah go to a night match and we should buy tickets to like
Starting point is 02:06:01 one of the later games like where it's good people playing yeah and we should it's a great atmosphere too you know what i kind of liked i uh i was walking around and sometimes you have guys that were really popular when we were kids right and they're kind of falling off but they're still professionals they're still playing right so like a journeyman nba player will still be on nba team yeah but again like you said it's an individual sport yeah so there was a guy named leighton Hewitt. Yeah. I remember Leighton Hewitt. He was like, at one point, he won. He was incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:28 His whole game was just, I'm going to make you fuck up. Yeah. I will. I have unlimited fitness. I will get every ball back until you fuck up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then I think they said Agassi was good at that too.
Starting point is 02:06:38 Like return anything. He could return anything. But like within that, that's like whatever serve you hit, I can get it back. Leighton Hewitt's game was like, I'm not going to try gonna try to hit crazy shots i'm just gonna make you hit one more every time and i'm waiting for you eventually right yeah okay so i saw him play because again when the u.s open happens all these matches are happening at the same time like you said there's 64 people they need to whittle them down so not every match is on the big one with the stadium there's like the ones on the side that only fit like 100 people.
Starting point is 02:07:06 I'm watching this Leighton Hewitt guy that I saw in SportsCenter. I didn't know anything about tennis or anything. There's two bleachers. Literally two rows of seats. I could have walked right on the tennis court and just interrupted a fucking game. Got a selfie if I wanted. It's rare you get to see it felt like summer league
Starting point is 02:07:26 yeah summer league where you're just that fucking close in the action so maybe we could do some flagrant shit maybe we could like
Starting point is 02:07:32 get some tickets and click on some content I'm down I'm going my cousin regardless so like oh you're like you're into it yeah it's better
Starting point is 02:07:39 US Open at night it's also kind of like a fun because it's New Yorkers so like London is mad classy like if the other guy makes a mistake you're not supposed to cheer that's like an unwritten tennis rule new york at night if we like federer and they love everybody loves federer like even in america he's
Starting point is 02:07:54 more popular than like the great american champions like pete sambers whoever if federer is in a tight match and the other guy fucks up they don't care we're yelling shit we're clapping we're getting rowdy like it's new york you know i mean it's still new york even if it's classier motherfuckers that like tennis it's still new york it's kind of fun i still like the fact that like they'll cheer while crazy but everybody shuts up right before yeah like it's like they still respect them like yo we're gonna give you your quiet for it's that golf shit too right like aren't supposed to not make a sound yeah yeah when you tee off but then you can say whatever golf shit too right like aren't you supposed to not make a sound yeah when you tee off
Starting point is 02:08:25 but then you can say whatever as soon as it hits it's like get in the hole yeah alright maybe we pulling up I'm with it
Starting point is 02:08:32 guys that has been another episode of Flagrant 2 why don't we why don't we tell some people where we're gonna
Starting point is 02:08:38 be at man oh this weekend I will be in Detroit, Michigan for Ducey Palooza at the Masquerade. Masquerade? Sorry.
Starting point is 02:08:48 Yes, this Friday, the Masquerade. No, sorry about that. This Friday, Detroit, Michigan, July 19th. Wale will be performing full set, performing his new single, On Chill with Jeremiah, which will be really tight. And let me just pull up the other DJ before I fucking forget. Goddamn. Shit.
Starting point is 02:09:09 You can go ahead, Andrew. Fuck. I can't find the shit. I'm sorry. Kaz struggling. Yeah, I'm trying, bro. Kaz struggling. Yo, I'm going to be at the Montreal Comedy Festival.
Starting point is 02:09:19 I'm going to be going up this week. I'm going to do the Nasty Show, which is a series. If you guys are in Montreal, there's going to be a bunch of very funny comics on it. But we're also going to do Inside Jokes and Unsafe Sets up there. So I think the Unsafe Sets show is sold out. I think Inside Jokes might be sold out, but it's pretty close. And I'm excited to do it, man. I'm excited just to be up there.
Starting point is 02:09:40 So I'll be up there for the next couple weeks. Alex is going to come up not this weekend but the next weekend for the Unsafe Sets and Inside Jokes shows and he'll be capturing some of the nasty shows as well. But yeah, if you're in Montreal, definitely pull up.
Starting point is 02:09:55 Come by. That'll be a lot of fun. And then I'll also be, after that, going to Tokyo. If you've got any advice about Tokyo, I'll be there from the 2nd to the 11th. And you're finally taking a vacation, guys. I'm going to Tokyo if you got any advice about Tokyo I'll be there from the 2nd
Starting point is 02:10:06 to the 11th and you're finally taking a vacation guys I'm gonna take a little vacay nice I need a little vacay you still doing Burning Man
Starting point is 02:10:11 you doing two vacays or just the one there's Burning Man has to do with some news that I'm I want to tell you guys but I can't tell it just yet
Starting point is 02:10:20 but I want to tell about you know what I'm talking about I don't I'll tell you... You know what I'm talking about. I'll tell you. You do know. Burning Man is dependent on that because I might have to be here to oversee some shit. Hopefully, we'll be able
Starting point is 02:10:34 to share that in a second. After I get back from Tokyo, we're going to be back on the road again. Matador Tour. Come see us in D.C. What is it? The 15th through the 17th or something like that august i mean we're there thursday friday saturday sunday a bunch of shows theandrewschultz.com for that then we're going to be out there in chicago um the first show sold out for chicago
Starting point is 02:10:57 so we added another show thalia hall beautiful theater there in chicago man pull up can't wait to see all motherfuckers out there and And then we're going to be hitting up, I think we have another date, and then we got Russia. Russia. Then we're going to be in Australia. Those tickets for Australia are moving, by the way. If you haven't got them, get them now
Starting point is 02:11:14 because their ship is about to be gone. Remember, I'm not coming there all the fucking time. So get on that shit. Tell your friends. Spread the fucking word. Keep it flagrant. And then TheAndrewSchultz.com. We keep adding more and more shows
Starting point is 02:11:25 so i'm very excited for y'all to continue seeing this this is crazy seeing us go from clubs to to theaters to sold out theaters it's just a wild experience man so and to see the audiences man it's just like leaning into the flagrancy to see the comics that i have open because i'm i specifically choose guys that that fuck with the flagrancy and to see them perform in front of a crowd that actually embraces it and embraces like dark humor and fucked up jokes and like gets off on it. When they come off stage, it's so crazy because they're like, yo, your crowd is fucking unreal. I'm dealing with these PC motherfuckers all the time, and I'm scared to tell some jokes, and all of a sudden I tell this one fucked up joke, and they're going crazy.
Starting point is 02:12:08 I mean, bravo. Anyway, they love y'all, so it's a treat for them to perform for you guys as well, man. So yeah, TheAndrewSouls.com. Get all those dates. Cast off. My fault. I finally got the right fucking information.
Starting point is 02:12:19 Went to Majestic. Not the Masquerade. My fault. Detroit and 4140 Woodward Avenue. DJ Twist. DJ Slick B. DJ BJ will all be spinning. My boy Chris Oslow, Key Hosen, Wale, will be performing his new album single and as much as other shit.
Starting point is 02:12:36 And pull up this Friday, man. And if you're going to Complex Con after that, hit me up. I should be around there as well. Akash, all you. Yo, we're building out this tour. I'm headlining. I'm bringing my boy magbool along to feature a very funny comic so we are going to houston september 6th at the secret group group two shows 8 and 10 30 then the 7th we're in austin at the fallout theater at 7 o'clock we're there again on the 8th fallout theater 7 o'clock
Starting point is 02:13:02 uh not september 13th, San Francisco, Piano Fight, two shows, 8 and 10, 30. September 19th, The Comedy Store in the Belly Room, 8 p.m.
Starting point is 02:13:10 September 20th, Portland, Curious Comedy, 7, 30. And then October 5th, Minneapolis, two shows, 8 and 10,
Starting point is 02:13:18 at Sisyphus Brewing. And also, I'm doing another ABDC show. We're calling ourselves Brownish now. Nobody knew what the fuck this he meant. So we're calling ourselves Brownish now. Nobody knew what the fuck Desi meant.
Starting point is 02:13:26 So we're calling ourselves Brownish. And we will be at New York Comedy Club on 4th Street, August 15th. Yes, sir. It's a hot show. Come through. Sounds good. Andrew, if you're in town, come through. Kaz, if you're in town, come through.
Starting point is 02:13:36 I'm pulling up. Pulling up, man. Got to, bro. I'm pulling up. Absolutely. Guys, thank you all so much for listening to Flagrant 2. Spreading the word. Spreading the flagrancy.
Starting point is 02:13:44 But keeping them fingers tight Oh fuck very important message. Thank you Al and maybe we should put this in the beginning as well So this is gonna be the second time you heard this but the flagrant to YouTube channel is up We are separating the YouTube channels I mean This is what happens when you guys watch fucking YouTube videos. The shit starts to blow up, man. So we're going to give Flagrant to its own YouTube channel. Please go subscribe.
Starting point is 02:14:09 I put a link in my Instagram. I'll put another one up tomorrow. What's the actual URL? So we can't get a custom URL until we get 100 subscribers. Got it. Okay. Which I think we have now. But I just posted about it yesterday.
Starting point is 02:14:23 Let me go check. But basically, please go subscribe to that. Also, the same thing for Brilliant Idiots. Please go subscribe to that as well. So we are just breaking these channels up so that we can put more content out on each one and everyone doesn't get overflooded. I'm just very excited about it, man. Thank you all so much for watching the videos and sharing them
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