Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Ja Morant GUN suspension, Trump Roasts CNN, & Kanye back w/ Adidas

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

Boys’ episode this week. We’re talking Ja Morant flashing his weapon, Donald Trump burying his rivals, Andrew pulling guard in Phoenix and KSI’s Misfit’s KO was a clear accident. INDULGE! 00:...00 Why’s Ja Morant willing to throw it away? 09:35 Stand-ups being in a contract year, every year 10:48 Ja can have guns; just don’t show them 13:24 Ja Morant ain’t a kid no more AND he signed up for it 20:47 They’re gonna humiliate Ja 22:40 Ja has to leave Memphis + The Knicks NEED him 25:16 Real Gs didn’t throw it up + leaning in too much 32:06 It’s all rappers’ fault + having “f*** you money” 38:13 Donald Trump has already bodied DeSantis 40:50 Hillary was human on Breakfast Club + focus grouped to death 42:42 “Unfortunately or fortunately” + Trump saw Andrew’s joke 46:18 Can’t be pardoning Jan Sixers + Trump was right on Ukraine/Russia 51:41 CNN backlash for Trump Townhall + Fox in a tough position 01:06:32 Suga Sean v Schulzy - pulling guard in Phoenix 01:13:52 Practice really does make perfect 01:17:47 LeBron’s insane recall 01:19:36 Tim tapped out Andrew + Jiu Jitsu cardio is insane 01:21:58 Mark gets COMPETITIVE 01:25:52 Bad Friends appearance + missing being on the road 01:31:44 KSI’s KO - clearly by accident 01:37:28 Boxing has forgotten how to promote 01:44:32 Fighting across disciplines - kicks are difference maker 01:46:42 Seb Maniscalco is unbelievable + Bobby DeNiro is good at acting??? 01:51:23 Martha Stewart does not care + still a smoke show 01:53:31 Feet surgery is coming + Cilantro tortures Andrew + Thai open sex 01:58:17 Hotel Manager sucking dem thangs + Al’s SUSPICIOUS 02:06:03 Who has the best feet at Flagrant? 02:11:08 Jamie Foxx seems to be ok - but does seem off 02:13:05 Charla’s bet on Ye - might have to suck toes 02:14:18 Ye’s wife is Kim & Amber put together + Ye is back, BABY

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What up everybody, welcome to Flagrant. Lot to discuss. Kanye West and Adidas are back. Where's Charlemagne at? We need answers. What's your bet on Kanye getting back with Adidas? Mm-hmm. You think that'll happen?
Starting point is 00:00:10 I'll suck some. Trump put a bullet in DeSantis' head. That campaign is over. If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day. How would you settle that war? I went out to Phoenix. I had to spar Sean O'Malley. I had to put the paws on him.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Got dangerous. KSI knocked out a kind of professional boxer. Maybe. But first, we got to talk about the face of the NRA. I mean, the NBA is Ja Morant. Let's begin. That seems to be the biggest story going on right now. And it is a fascinating story. And I think it's all wrapped around this idea of why does he not care about $200 million? I think that's why people don't get the behavior. They're like, why would you continue to act in this way when you could lose out on $200 million?
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yeah. Right? Yeah, also, additionally, secondary maybe, we love him and watching him piss it all away is like bro we invested into caring about you but it's all away
Starting point is 00:01:08 yeah you see what I'm saying like the real core the common denominator here is like why would you keep doing this inconsequential thing yeah
Starting point is 00:01:15 and then lose the 200 million dollars and that's what I'm saying secondarily we wouldn't be as mad about doing this sure so if we weren't invested into him
Starting point is 00:01:21 then whatever but the 200 million dollar thing I was really fucking fascinated by this. I'm like, why the fuck would he be willing to just throw that all away? Because I think so many people who do not have that money are like, wow, that's my freedom. If I had that money, I'd never have to work again. My parents wouldn't have to work again. Why is he willing?
Starting point is 00:01:37 He came from humble means. Why is he willing to throw away for his family, for his kids, his kids, kids? Like, what the fuck? That $200 million, that's the Grizzlies contract number? That's his new contract that he's already signed that he's about to get, right? This is what you want. After your rookie contract, you get that big max contract.
Starting point is 00:01:52 He doesn't care about the money, but that is a function of being in the NBA, okay? When you're in the NBA, you get a paycheck every two weeks, just like most people get paychecks. Let's say his paycheck after taxes every couple of weeks is half a million dollars. If they win five games in a row and he averages 35 points a game, how much does he get? The same money. Half a million dollars. If they lose five games in a row and he's a bum every single game, how much does he get? $500,000.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You start to disconnect. I've spoken to some people about this and the players start to disconnect the money that's coming in and with the work that's being done to make the money. Especially a superstar like that that knows he's getting max.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Right. Right, because there is a cap. If you could pay LeBron what he's worth, you'd pay him a billion dollars a year. But there's a cap. It's 30 or 40, whatever the fuck it is now. So having that come in every two weeks, you become disassociated.
Starting point is 00:02:54 You become disconnected with it. It's the reason why, I know this sounds crazy to make a parallel, Russell Westbrook never seems accountable for his style of play. Ah, yeah. It's the same thing, only in different ways. He's like, the money comes in no matter what. never seems accountable for his style of play. Ah, yeah. It's the same thing, only in different ways.
Starting point is 00:03:09 He's like, the money comes in no matter what. Like, whether I take bad shots or good shots, I still make the same amount of money. Small pushback on Russell Westbrook. Isn't he a free agent now? Did he get a smaller contract? I'm talking about for the last 10 years when he's been taking bad shots, and he keeps on getting max contracts.
Starting point is 00:03:24 So what's happening with Ja is he's not thinking about the $200. It's not even in his mind where all of us are going, how do I not lose this $200? How do I not lose this $200? His behavior is not attached to the money coming in because his on-the-court play is not attached to it. And realistically speaking, I'm sure this is not the first time that the organization has heard of things that he's been involved in. Yeah. These are the only times that have gotten out to the public. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:51 The organization has what are called handlers for their star players. And they go around. One of our boys was Dirk's handler. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's his job to make sure Dirk don't get nobody pregnant, to make sure Dirk is not fucking hollering Hitler in the goddamn bar in Texas somewhere. You know what I mean? Like, that's literally their job.
Starting point is 00:04:08 That's a jump, bro. I'm just saying, you never know. A haircut, right? Come on. I kind of like this job. So it's like, it's basically what happens is there's a guy who's with Ja that's from the team. And he's telling them.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And he's telling the team, yo, he's out here. He's wilding. He's doing these kind of things Like he's a wild dude. It's like can you control him? Probably not. He has his friends who are all clout Goblin gold digging idiots cuz you about to fuck up the gold mine. Yep. Yep. Like don't put your boy on live Yeah ever. Yeah that if you are living off of him don't put him on live ever What's the point?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Come on, man. I'm being for real. You're letting Josh skate on putting himself on live the first time. Yo, yo, it's not about, it's like, I'm not saying that he's not accountable for his actions. He needs to be accountable for his actions 100%, 100%. But if that's your man and you really fuck with him, you don't want him to get in any trouble. So you're not going to be putting him on live in a fucking strip club, taking pictures and throwing money on ass.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Have you been 21 before? Say again? Have you been 21 before, 23? I hate that excuse too. I hate that excuse. I did some of the dumbest things at that age. Yeah, but you were broke. You had nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You were AT&T. Not necessarily. You didn't care. Nobody cared what you did. Your whole initial point was you get disconnected from the money. Yeah. So him being broke doesn't make an impact because these guys are disconnected with the money. So they're not thinking about the $200 million on the line.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Wait, wait, wait. Break that down. Your whole point was you're not thinking about the money that's on the line because you get disconnected from it. But why? I don't think you understood the initial point. The money comes regardless. Yeah, he never got the money. Jotted?
Starting point is 00:05:51 No, Al never got the money. Yeah, but they're also not— He doesn't think he's broke. He thinks he has so much money, and it doesn't matter what he does. They're very different situations. I'm not saying the situation is the same, but the mentality is the same. I'm not thinking about the money, so let's go on live because I'm disconnected from this action. No, Akash, no.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It's the same reason why if you're in a gang, you don't give a fuck what's going to happen because you don't know if you're going to be here tomorrow. That's a very different situation than somebody who's operating like a prince who's like, nothing can go wrong with me. I'm going to be fine no matter what. There are no repercussions to my actions, and the money is going to be there no matter what. It's the same reason why Prince Harry dresses up as fucking Hitler on Halloween, right? Because he's like, what could happen? What realistically could happen? My point is either way, you're disconnected from it. You're not thinking about the action. Sure. Maybe you can word it better than me.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I think that there's not a big difference between 50 million and 100 million when you haven't seen that type of money yet. He's like, hey, all my friend group around me, all the people online, well, all the people, all my supporters are like, yo, I fuck with that shit. He got positive reinforcement after the first thing with actual rappers who are recreating that scene in their videos because they fuck with him and all that type of shit. So he's like, yo, fuck it. I, whatever y'all find me, I got to sit down a couple of games. I don't give a fuck. Like to him it's like i'm nice you're gonna have to give me the money regardless so i'm going to keep doing my
Starting point is 00:07:09 shit that's why he did it again he just don't give a fuck about what people think about him because he knows i'm gonna get the money regardless so what you drop you don't give me super max but i still get a max that's why that's why that's why what i think that's why he doesn't care to have repeat the same dumb step again and that's why what? I think that's why he doesn't care to have repeat the same dumb step again. And that's why the friends around him, he's telling them, yeah, we're going to be good. It don't matter. So what? They'll find me a little something.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yeah. I mean, yeah, he's an idiot. There's no question whether he's a stupid person. But what I'm saying is why a dumb guy like that has that disconnect happens. It's like, yeah, maybe he never thought he'd hit 50, but he needs to hit 100. But another thing you got to understand about how players operate and how they identify themselves,
Starting point is 00:07:50 it's by the contract. It's not by dropping 30. Are you a Max player or not? There's the white boy Max, which is the four-year deal, right? No black dude that's a superstar wants the white boy Max. They want that five-year, give me it all,
Starting point is 00:08:04 the Kevin Love deal, they don't want. Why the fuck does Cristiano Ronaldo go to Saudi Arabia? That's the only people who wanted him. That's the only people who are willing to pay him. Everybody else was like, oh yeah, you could come on a discount. Yeah, the price point. We want it for the price. Exactly. So if they cut his salary,
Starting point is 00:08:20 if they're like, sorry, you're not worth it, it's only 10 million, and you become this $10 million player, oof, that's going to hurt. You know his style of play. There's no way he's going to become the $10 million player. Yes. Every team is going to be willing to give him the max regardless of all this little gun shit. So that's why he's, I think, this is just my opinion, I think he's
Starting point is 00:08:36 like, I don't care. You're assuming that every player cares about that super max. What if he don't? Alright, so maybe he doesn't. Maybe he does. If he cared, he wouldn't do it again. I think you're underestimating your ego being on the line.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Cristiano Ronaldo went to Saudi Arabia because that contract I can point to and say, I'm the best in the world still. Mentally, every NBA player got an ego. Every person that's successful on some level has it. You got an ego. We got egos. They got fucking massive egos.
Starting point is 00:09:09 They're the best in the world at a sport that everybody plays. Every human being we know has dribbled a basketball and shot it. John Moran is one of the five best in the universe at that right now. Amen. And he got a fucking ego to get there. So he's going to define himself. If he gets $100 million instead of $200 million, and he sees somebody he thinks is shittier than him getting $200 million,
Starting point is 00:09:27 that is going to fucking destroy him on an ego level. And I agree with you that he doesn't think he could lose anything. That's what I'm saying. But what I'm saying, that comes from a place where behavior and money are not connected. If you go on stage, or if I go on stage and I keep sucking, what happens to our deals? It's up in smoke. Exactly. So we actually have an incentive to deliver a great fucking show every single time because the price continues to go up.
Starting point is 00:09:54 With him, it's locked in, and you just completely become desensitized to it. And you don't think. To your point, you know how players play the best in contract years? Yeah. We're always in a contract year because I'm coming back to this club in one year. So if I don't come through— Lose 15 pounds, drop an extra five points, rebound and defending. First year of the new contract, gain 15 pounds. Three less rebounds a game.
Starting point is 00:10:11 But if you knew every show for the next five years would be the same money, what is it? I don't give a fuck. The next five years. Right now, I don't give a fuck. Human beings are literally motivated by security. That's all it is. And that's what I'm saying. I think he's looking at his game and be like, yo, if I don't get it from my team, I'm going to get it from some team. Some team will
Starting point is 00:10:30 offer him a super max because of the way he's balling a fuck out. Sure, sure, sure. But you have to acknowledge that there is distance between actions and repercussions. He had a sit down with the NBA and he is the NBA union. Being young and dumb. And they initially, they go, listen, we saw you doing this shit, pulling a fucking gun out, whatever like that. First of all, a lot of people have made a big deal about like what he did was illegal pulling the gun out. I don't care about that. Well, well, there is something to speak on it, right? Because if he broke the law, that is, that's illegal. And then now there is recourse to remove funds from him. There's recourse to kick him off the team. They're banning him from the league.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I don't think he brandished it in a menacing way. That is the law. You're allowed to show your gun. I'm sure we're going to see a picture of fucking Jokic in wherever the hell he is from this summer with like a shotgun over his shoulder going to hunt deer. Right? That's normal. That's okay. Going to fight Russia. Step up. hell he is from this summer with like a shotgun over his shoulder going to hunt deer right that's normal that's okay going to fight russia there it is we see politicians in their christmas photos now this being said if your jaw the deal is very reasonable from the nba it's very reasonable it's
Starting point is 00:11:41 you get 200 million dollars to bounce a fucking basketball, try to get into the hoop, and pretty much lose every season because you don't have a fucking chance, right? And you get $200 million. That's what it is. And just don't pretend to be in a gang on camera. You can pretend to be in a gang. Play dress-up with your boys. Throw your fingers up in goofy ways.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Tote the guns. Do all the goofy shit. Get in the security of your own home with the cameras off. Don't go outside. goofy ways. Tote the guns. Do all the goofy shit. In the security of your own home with the cameras off. Don't go outside. Hey, do it at the club with no cameras. Do it in your car with no cameras. This is why I'm saying the friends are fucking stupid. And he's stupid for engaging with them in it. The second the phone comes outside, I've had friends that are in positions where when I was coming up, they could lose something by being associated with me. And we kept those relationships private.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I knew I was saying some wild shit and I knew them being around me in their corporate positions could hurt their job opportunities. And these are best friends, like closest friends in the world. And I'm on a podcast every single fucking week talking about my friends.
Starting point is 00:12:43 We've told stories about them on this podcast and these people have no clue who they are because I'm protecting them from what I know I could do. And this is jokes. Imagine real life shit. Idiots. To me, it's just you don't care about your friend. You care more about your fucking Instagram live
Starting point is 00:12:59 than you do about your friend. You care more about yourself. That's why you clout chasing goblin gold digging right now. You're not wrong about the intention. I think that still lets him off the hook a bit where it's like, yo, he might want clout off of you, but you see you're on IG Live. You've done this exact
Starting point is 00:13:15 thing. He's number one idiot. What's the hierarchy of idiots? He's the dumbest person that you can be in the NBA. Young, dumb, and immature. No, no, I'm tired of this young, dumb shit because they got 19-year-old Ukrainians out there that are getting fucking shot up in Russia, right?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah, but they're toting their guns, though. So go to Russia! John Moran, go to Ukraine! You know what I'm saying? If you want to pull out the strap, there are places you could do it legally and be rewarded. They can play ball, too, probably. They would love you.
Starting point is 00:13:46 There was a dude who was a crip. I think he was a brick boy or some shit like that. He was rolling 60. And he was like, yo, if you want to be about that life, come be with us for a weekend. You want to touch your little guns? Come spend a weekend with us. I'm definitely not saying what he's doing isn't dunking. He was like, do a ride-along.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah, it's a ride-along. It's like a study abroad. Is that open? Can I do that? You know how much fun it is to go like that? That seems fun. Yeah. It's like a study abroad. Is that open? Can I do that? You know how much fun it is to go like that? Like, that seems fun. Yeah. Like, I imagine you dunk on someone, and you just want to throw something up with your fingers.
Starting point is 00:14:10 It's great. You saw the cop that did it? What'd he do? There was a cop in New York. Oh, but he was making fun of the gangbangers. I don't know. Apparently, people were like, oh, he held it up so good. Like, he's got to be affiliated.
Starting point is 00:14:19 He might have. But he, like, popped that shit out. I was like, yo, this is crazy. But he's, like, in full uniform, just, like, yo, this is crazy. But he's like in full uniform, just like repping. Boom, there it is. I guess what I'm saying is like, we acknowledge that the behavior is stupid, but this is a 23-year-old man, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:35 23-year-old man. Stop calling him a kid. That's that, honestly, that's more racist, to be honest. Why, how is this about race? Because you're just making it, you go, you're like, oh, he's just a, to be honest. Why? How is this about race? Because you're just making it. You go, you're like, oh, he's just 23. He don't know how to make decisions. No.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Would you hold the same thing? I'm not saying he's. If Luka got caught with a gun, would you be like, he's 23. He's breaking the law. He's 23. That's his point. I don't think that's fully wrong. I am not.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I'm saying he needs to have accountability. You got to have higher expectations for black people. No, but one thing that is bothering me is there is a racial component here. If it was a white dude with a fucking gun, he was out in Montana hiking, hunting or whatever like that, nobody's making a big deal of it. The fact that he is showing the gun off in this like archetypical hood way. But here's the other most cliche corny way to do it. I think the context is also important
Starting point is 00:15:28 because he got priors in the court of public opinion. He apparently allegedly beat up a 17 year old pulled a gun on him at a pickup basketball game at his own fucking house.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Apparently him and his boys train lasers on the Pacers team bus. These are all allegations. They're not for sure but you hear this. Then you see him
Starting point is 00:15:44 at the strip club pull out the gun. Then you see him at the strip club pull out the gun. Then you see him another time with a gun, and you're like, yo, what the fuck? Take a race out of it. If Bo Jackson has a shotgun,
Starting point is 00:15:51 I'm like, this motherfucker going hunting. His black ass is going hunting. That's a hunting ass black man right there. He's made some money. Now he's hunting. So there's this thing where I think, you're 100% right.
Starting point is 00:15:59 There's this thing where we don't want to look like sellouts. We don't want to look like whatever, and I get that. But a lot of black people are letting him off the hook. And it's like, bruh, come on.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Nobody's letting him. No, there's a redirect. You said he's a child. No, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm saying that. It's been in the public eye since he's 16 years old. I'm saying what he's doing is dumb, but also I can relate to the fact that he's 23 years old and all the fucking kids around his same age, especially if he's a big fan of these rappers and they're doing the same thing in their video. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Just like us back in the day, think about 15 years ago when AI was doing all the stupid shit out in the streets. We heard a bunch of stories, but there was no social media back then. Tour announcement coming to Salt Lake Memorial Day weekend. Just adding that last minute, so look out for that.
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Starting point is 00:17:02 It's great to be back on the road, man. I'm so excited about it. So thank you guys so much for coming out to those shows in Phoenix. That was crazy. And I hope to see you all out there soon. Peace. John Morant is being dumb.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Yeah. But, like, I think people are, you're saying, oh, he's the dumbest motherfucker in the world, da-da-da-da-da. And I think you're being a bit harsh on a 23-year-old who is just emulating
Starting point is 00:17:22 some of the fucking rappers that he looks up to. If we're gonna, and I understand you're saying it, but you're saying he's young, but, and the but is what people are always going to focus on. So if we, okay, fine, I can live in a world where young people are allowed to do dumb shit,
Starting point is 00:17:35 then you don't get to make $200 million. If you're under 26 years old, you don't get $200 million. Because you keep fucking up because you're young and dumb, so you're going to keep fucking up. If we pay him $20 million, $5 million, whatever, well, you're young and dumb, so you get let off the hook. Cool. But you only get $5 million.
Starting point is 00:17:50 You don't get $200 million and then skate on repercussions. You don't get paid grown-ass man money more than most people will ever see in their entire lifetime through their lineage. And then be like, well, yeah, but you're 23. But he's still going to work and doing his job. Work at McDonald's, yo. Work at McDonald's. No, no, no. If you want to act like that, work at McDonald's because nobody cares. He's still going to work and doing his job.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He's going on the court and fucking balling out of control. Wait, wait, wait. It's not his job. It's part of his job. Outside of the job. No, that's not. No, no. That's part of the job. You sign an agreement to not engage in behavior that is detrimental to the league or your team. He got slapped on the wrist for it.
Starting point is 00:18:30 He can also not go skiing. If he goes skiing, he could injure himself in a way that could be detrimental to the team. So when you sign on the dotted line for the $200 million, it's also don't be out there with the guns, waving them, being in a strip club, getting caught. That is part of the contract. The reason I'm calling him dumb is because he was given the opportunity to rectify the situation, and he went right back to doing the same exact thing. Yes, and I agree. Like, that's what I'm saying. We're not disagreeing.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm not saying he's not dumb. I'm just saying I think the way people are coming down on him, like, how could you? And we are going to act like we were in our early 20s and doing some dumb shit. We all did dumb shit. But yes, we expect more of him at the level and everything that's on the line. We expect more of him. But at the same time, he's still a fucking 21 year old. This was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:19:16 First of all, like the gun shit is really tricky, obviously, because he has a legal right to own a firearm. The reason why they didn't prosecute him with the strip club shit I think is because Denver was just like, so now we have to prosecute every single person that drops their gun in the strip club that's legally owned? This is America. And I don't know if you can write laws to remove people's constitutional rights as part of their job. Weirdly, I think that one, he actually said that wasn't his gun.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah, he did. He said it wasn't. Yeah, maybe it wasn't. But I think what, from my understanding, what the police said is like, we can't prosecute every single one of these circumstances. Because he was holding it. Right, at least in the club, which would be legal if you have a license to carry a gun. I believe in Colorado you can have a license to carry a gun. It seems like a big nature state you would have fucking a reason why you would need a gun or own it. So I think that what he did wasn't illegal. The issue here is he made an agreement.
Starting point is 00:20:07 He's like, okay, I see what I did was wrong. I'm not going to do it anymore. And as part of the $200 million I get, this is one of those little things I just don't get to do. My friends get to do it. I wish I could do it. You know what else I wish I could do? Cocaine, because that shit looks really fun,
Starting point is 00:20:21 but I can't because they drug test me. You know what I mean? There's all these different things you wish you could do, but you can't. And you get 200 million for it. If you want to do them things, work at McDonald's because McDonald's don't care. McDonald's has no anti-gun policy. McDonald's has no anti-cocaine policy. Like there are so many different ways you could live that life. I think it's required. I think cocaine is actually, it's a part of it. What is the max though at McDonald's? That's tough. Oh, literally the max.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Let's go. Here's the unfortunate thing. In order for him to be forgiven for this, because he will be forgiven, it's not really that big a deal in my opinion. I defend him more with the gun because guns are legal and it's a constitutional right. It's more the disrespect of the agreement that he had with the team after the first punishment. So what they're going to have to do now, and this sucks, they're going to humiliate him. They're going to make him take
Starting point is 00:21:10 all of his guns to a gun buyback place and he's going to have to publicly say guns are stupid. Melt it down. Yeah, they're literally going to go bad boy and spank him. They're going to spank him fucking publicly. And it's like, do you want that, bro? No, absolutely not. And that sucks. And this is what I was thinking. It's disappointing. And that're going to spank him fucking publicly. And it's like, do you want that, bro? No, absolutely not. And that sucks.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And this is what I also think. It's disappointing. And that's going to make him rebel more because he's like, oh, they're just making an example out of me. Fuck that. All my friends think I'm pussy. All the rappers I look up to think I'm pussy. So now I got to make them feel like I'm not pussy and I'm going to go do some crazier shit and this is going to keep on fucking happening. Two things.
Starting point is 00:21:41 One you touched on earlier, which is what I think you're forgetting. There was a lot of buildup to this. He had trouble once. We didn't come down on him on this podcast. We didn't insult him, shout him down for 15 minutes. Multiple times you've done,
Starting point is 00:21:54 son, you've beaten up 17-year-olds over a pickup game. That story's hilarious, too. That's insane. He was doing a pickup game at his place, at his mansion, and people came over and he got into an argument with one of the guys that came over.
Starting point is 00:22:03 He was 17 years old playing pickup. 17 years old. Beat his ass, pulled a gun on him. He goes inside, gets his gun, allegedly, puts it in his waistband, then comes back outside and then keeps arguing with him and then lifts up the waistband to show him the gun. So you don't think this is the
Starting point is 00:22:15 dumbest guy ever? Which is hilarious. You don't think he's one of the stupidest people? He's like, I gotta get my gun really quick. And then goes upstairs and he's like, okay, which way is it? That's what I'm saying. We're not coming down on him for no reason. It's not the first time. He didn't pull a gun out once
Starting point is 00:22:29 and he's the model citizen. He been dumb as fuck. I bet you he flashed his waistband and was like, oh, fuck, I don't have my gun. And then ran upstairs and got it. And then he's like, yeah, now look,
Starting point is 00:22:36 this is what I meant to do. And I think the only hope you have is you gotta trade this guy. I think the only hope you, I was talking to Derek Poston about this, shout out to Derek, but weeks ago when we were in Denver together
Starting point is 00:22:46 and I was like, yo, what happens? Because Memphis, from what I understand, they don't fuck around. They can swallow you up. It got young Dolph. And I was like, how does he get out of this? And he was like, he doesn't. You got to trade him to Sacramento or fucking-
Starting point is 00:22:58 Orlando, let's go. Orlando? Send him to Orlando, baby. Put him in Disney World at a Disney restaurant? Bring all that gun energy over here. Let's go. Send him to Orlando. He was a Nick right now. I'm not restaurant. Bring all that gun energy over here. Send him to Orlando. He's a Nick right now.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I'm not alive. He's a Nick. He didn't do nothing. There we go. He didn't do nothing. He's 23. He's a kid. He's a child.
Starting point is 00:23:13 He's a kid. We're all immature. We're all immature. We're all opps. You're not opps right now. So get your life together, dumbass. You also forget New York
Starting point is 00:23:22 will send Plaxico Burris to jail for having a gun. They don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck. He'd be in jail already if he was in New York. New York, that motherfucker be in jail. We getting rid of a few players. You don't think I'm trying to get his ass over here? Hey, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Hey, come on, son. Yo, New York, we love you. Listen, New York Knicks, we love you. And by you, we mean Jalen Brunson. Okay? And maybe Josh Hart. Yes. The rest of y'all could go.
Starting point is 00:23:50 The rest of y'all could go. Anybody saying anything about JB taking that, making that last turnover, everybody else on the team was like three for 50. He's the only person to score. Who the fuck he gonna pass the ball to? He's doing it himself. He's supposed to.
Starting point is 00:24:05 The whole fucking playoffs. And did you see the effort Randall made to even get that pass? He let a fucking two guard. Randall's what, 6'9"? He's 6'10", 6'11", something like that. Maybe not that. Do you think he's that tall? He's a tall motherfucker, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I've seen him. He's tall as fuck. Fair enough. But he let some fucking two guard stop him when he was coming through the lane. Run through that motherfucker, grab that pass, and redeem yourself for your, they want it more. They do want it. They want it more than you won that last play.
Starting point is 00:24:34 He's 6'8". The moment he said that, the fucking, I knew he was going to lose. Come on, you don't say that shit. Even if you feel it, you don't say that shit. Yo, we got to find other ways to be gangster besides the gun shit. Yo, you know what's interesting also about like showing the gun? Guns aren't expensive.
Starting point is 00:24:52 You know what I mean? It's not a rich flex. I'm tough flex. Well, the flex is, I ain't going to do what these motherfuckers tell me. Oh, interesting. That's the flex. The flex is the rebellion. Yes. No, no. He's saying is the rebellion. Yes. No, no.
Starting point is 00:25:08 What I'm saying, he's saying it's a tough flex. No, no. It's rebellion against the league and against his team. So if it's rebellion against the league and the team, the league and the team got every right to be like, all right. Do you think it's also compensation for how people perceive he grew up? He might be overcompensating because people think he's a suburb kid.
Starting point is 00:25:23 There's that family photo of him and the polo shirt with his mom and dad. Can I also say this? I didn't hear that coming out until the first gun charge. He started acting crazy and then people were like, that ain't you. There's a few gangsters in the league. It's well documented
Starting point is 00:25:38 and some of them are maybe out now, but they were still involved in the life. They were throwing up signs during the game. The real ones? No, no, no. The real ones never threw it up in a game. No. The real ones that were doing work still, that were involved in it, you would never know.
Starting point is 00:26:00 You would have no clue. Even the way they played, you're like, there's too much fundamentals for you to be playing. There's way too many. How are you going to initiate it? Like, your handles are insane. How is that possible? Yeah, but I'm saying those guys, the ones who are throwing it up
Starting point is 00:26:14 grew up in the neighborhood, but they weren't doing work, and that's why they throw it up because they're not worried that anybody could come back to them and want some shit. And you might even have an agreement where it's like,
Starting point is 00:26:21 look, you can throw our shit up. We're going to, you just be safe. We're not fucking up. You're not fucking up. You will be safe. The crib dude told him what it was. it's like, look, you can throw our shit up. We're going to, you just be safe. We're not fucking up. You're not fucking up. No, the Crip dude told him what it was. He's like, yo, you want to throw it up? You're going to have to pay the Crips. There's a price. There's a licensing fee.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Yeah. We got royalties, bro. We got to protect the brand. Yo, they made it a hot song. Like, they made it a hot song. So yeah, you got to pay for that. You don't get all the cool clout by throwing it up without paying for the dudes who put in the work to make it that way. You should have to pay the Crips.
Starting point is 00:26:50 That's a blue check. That's a fair trade. 100%. He was like, Draymond will throw it up, but Draymond comes back, gives the fucking backpacks and lunch to the community. He gives back. Fine. Throw it up. That's what he's also like, Jai, you don't do nothing for any of us. What's Draymond throwing up? He said, Draymond will throw up the Crip shit. Really? That's what that dude said. Where's Draymond throwing up? He said, Draymond throw up the Crip shit.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Really? That's what that dude said. Where's Draymond from? His soundbite. I don't know where he's from. Michigan, I think. I know he went to school there, but yeah, yeah. Wow, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:27:13 You should look at some offers. Kind of see what people are, how much it costs. For us to throw up? For us to throw it up. Just to see. You know what I mean? How much a month? I think we're bad for the brand.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You think so? If I was throwing up Crip, I think they'd be like, I don't really care. I'm like, you're getting bad. You guys say a lot of care. It's a bad look for us to have you throwing a crib. A lot of offensive jokes. You guys say a lot of crazy stuff. We don't want to be associated with that. We kill people. We don't insult races.
Starting point is 00:27:34 The cribs are going to become your club promoters and be like, I want 20% of the door. I'll fix the club. Let's talk. Yeah, that's the funny thing. You need to give us 10 for protection and you're like protecting from who yeah us the calls let's go but yeah i feel like i just feel like i knew kids like that like i knew this one dude that his parents are african and like he lived in orlando kind of like a rough neighborhood and didn't feel black enough for the
Starting point is 00:28:02 kids he was around but didn't feel white enough against near the white you had a black friend yeah it was my one it was my one but he wasn't black enough for the black friend yeah he was African yeah he's from Liberia but uh he like kind of got into rap started hanging out with the kids started doing lean got face tattoos and kind of went off the rails and I was like oh you're overcompensating for how that group perceived you and you could have kind of gone one either way and And so I had compassion for him. I was like, yeah, you're rebelling against the way you grew up. And you're just trying to fit in at the end of the day. Yeah. And so I'm like, is Ja
Starting point is 00:28:32 doing something like that where he's growing up in a very, like, I don't know what his upbringing was like, but if it is, like, people are perceiving him as pussy, and he's like, no, I'll show you. I'm going to prove to all the people around me that the money's irrelevant. You know what's weird? He's just doing fun shit with his friends, and he's got a lot of money to do. Yeah, but I never perceived him as pussy.
Starting point is 00:28:49 That's the thing. And it's not because he did the gangster shit. To be honest with you, it's because of the way he plays the game. Thank you. Yeah. That was a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:58 That's exactly what I'm saying. Nobody thought... Birdie a hole? That was crazy. That was a great point. Nobody thought he was pussy because if you just watch basketball, that motherfucker is not, he's the anti-Steph Curry. He's not sitting out there shooting threes. He's driving to the rim on Giants, taking a hard fall.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Nobody ever thought he was pussy. So this idea, I don't even believe because if you watch basketball since he was in college, you were like, yo, this guy plays the game in a way that's so fucking bold. Jimmy Butler, perfect example. Yes. Listening to country music, drinking fucking wine, zero gangster shit associated. Charging people for coffee in the bubble. Making espressos in the bubble, right? Does anybody question how tough that motherfucker is?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Nope, not. You are not trying. He will beat your ass to some Luke Combs music. Yeah, baby lock them doors doors you better lock them doors and turn the lights down low yeah yeah so that's the thing it's like i think the fucking yeah i think that i think ja had all the credibility yeah we loved that's why i don't buy this because everybody loved him for how he played the game and nobody thought he was soft. The fans, the fans. I don't know what he's dealing with. I don't know who the people he's around, the guys in Memphis that are like, oh, you grew up in the
Starting point is 00:30:13 suburbs. You have both your parents. And he's like, why do you need to hang out with people from Memphis, dude? Insecurity, bro. He's hanging out with his friends, bro. I don't know. Who are his friends from the suburbs? They don't think he's tough enough? No, but the kids that are on that live are his friends. Like, they are. They're just having fun, playing music, jumping around on top of the car. Like, they're just having fun. It's stupid fun. It's fun that's going to get him in trouble, but they're just having fun.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And I'm, like, you guys just have this huge disconnect because you expect him to have. We're all friends here. We're all friends here. We're all friends here. How often, how often do you guys start going on Instagram Live, not tell me, let me behave in whatever way I want, and then put the camera on me? How often has that happened
Starting point is 00:30:57 in the entirety of our relationship? That's pretty rare. Never. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Never, right? Now, you can make the argument we're older, et cetera. That's fair. But my point is the reason I think you guys don't do that is because you're like,
Starting point is 00:31:11 God forbid Schultz has some wild shit and he doesn't know he's on live and then people record it and then now the guy gets canceled. You're looking out for my well-being. You're going, in that moment, you're like, yeah, it might be fun if we had a cool live and all this other stuff stuff but it's not worth sacrificing everything that he's got going on for this mistake
Starting point is 00:31:28 especially with him getting in trouble before the difference protecting me the difference though is I'm going hey I'm going to go on live you want to go on live with me
Starting point is 00:31:35 and you go yeah I would love to go on live with you and then I make a joke and then you pull out a gun and I go bro why'd you you're assuming you're assuming that
Starting point is 00:31:42 he was like hey we're about to go on live in my opinion I think he knew he was on live He's done it on live before If you watch the video his boy holds up gun hands And he goes oh I have one of those That's a very good point His boy is doing the gun hands
Starting point is 00:31:57 And then when the gun comes out His boy does immediately be like yes But again that's Ja being a fucking idiot His boy has the camera. Nobody's disagreeing there. You know who else is to blame for this? NBA Youngboy. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:32:10 That's who he was listening to. He put out a banger of an album. He was floating the Grizzlies for the whole season. It's a parade inside my city, yeah. And then he drops another album that's amazing. And then that's what they were listening to. Yo, you know what? You got to take some accountability.
Starting point is 00:32:23 He should have made cute music. I was at this wedding for some friends, beautiful wedding in New Orleans. No, it wasn't in New Orleans, but everybody there was from New Orleans. They were strapped up. No, I mean, I don't even know what the gun laws are, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. The point I'm trying to make is that the Boosie song came on Wipe It Down. Wipe Me Down? Gas tank on E, Wipe It Down. Wipe Me Down? Gas tank on E,
Starting point is 00:32:46 Wipe Me Down. Wipe Me Down, yeah, yeah. That one goes crazy, bro. Everybody at this wedding was white. Everybody was at this wedding. There might have been like a Greek person
Starting point is 00:32:55 or something. That was like the darkest. What you just saw right there, they put on Wipe It Down and I like kind of heard the song before, but I'm not exactly sure about the song, right?
Starting point is 00:33:05 And the song comes on, and there are a hundred white people in New Orleans white. Do you know what I mean? Not poor New Orleans. Rich New Orleans white. A hundred white people, word for word,
Starting point is 00:33:20 doing the whole thing where they're wiping down their sneaker. It's just an amazing thing. I know how famous Boosie is, but because I'm from New York, I'm peripherally aware of the music. But in his area? Oh, yeah. That shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Bro, you remember this guy? At Mardi Gras? Yeah, let me see. He's in New Orleans, and he went crazy viral for this. Just knowing the words to a Kevin Gates song, I think. You don't even really seem to know the words. Yeah, but that was a horrible example.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Maybe that was a lag or something. Miles got so excited at the example. I saw him. That's a great example. That's the exact example. It just didn't play well. It just didn't lag. It's the video's fault. It's definitely that. There was just one word he said. He didn't run bar for bar. He literally said one line. Yeah, I know. It's definitely that. There was just one word he said. He didn't go bar for bar.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah, he literally said one line. Yeah, I know, and it went insanely viral because of one- I didn't think I heard the song out of that line. I never saw that. A white guy knew one word. No, no. And it went dumb viral.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I just don't see how that relates to the whole job thing. I think you got excited that a white guy knew rap. Yeah. Because white people know this shit in New Orleans. It's approaching exactly the same. It's all good, man. They ain't all gonna go in.
Starting point is 00:34:24 You know what I mean? They ain't all gonna suck it. Fitz gonna go in. You know what I mean? They ain't all gonna go in. Fitzfire, though. Fitzfire. Gas tank. That's it. Come on, baby. Not that shit.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yo, you know another thing you gotta think about with Ja, this young shit. He got a kid, bro. You don't get to be young. It's over. You can't lose everything and then tell your daughter, man, I was young. What you gonna do? Sorry I lost the 200 million. That's what the kid should say. I was youthful. The kid, man, I was young. Sorry I lost the $200 million. That's what the kid should say.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I was youthful. The kid's like, I was young. I was as young as you can be. No more I'm young. You got a kid? Yeah, he got a daughter. That's why, because the parade in my city thing, it was an interview with him where he had her say it's a parade in my city. That's how I remembered it.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Post-game interview. I know sometimes, I don't know if you guys say this jokingly or whatnot, but you said, what's your number for like fuck you money or whatever the case is. That's not a joke at all. Okay, so it's like. Wait, let me get that number. I think, I'm not saying he hit his number, but imagine if you were his age and you have money coming like that. It's like, fuck y'all, man. Like, he's already had fucking money.
Starting point is 00:35:18 That was the first thought that I had. I agree with you 100%. I was like, I think that he reached a number where he's like, I'm okay now. And maybe his accountant even said that I had. I agree with you 100%. I was like, I think that he reached a number where he's like, I'm okay now. And maybe his accountant even said that to him. And then I was speaking to some folks in the league and they were like, there's a weird thing that happens with money where you start to disassociate yourself from it. And everybody's making this big deal about that 200 because we all go, wow, what we could do with that. But I do agree. Once you reach a certain level, he probably has an accountant that sat him down and said, listen, you're getting this much from Nike. You've already made this much
Starting point is 00:35:47 from the Grizzlies. You don't have to work again anymore. We're going to look after this money. I'm going to give you a, what is it called? Like a stipend. There's another word for an allowance or whatever like that. Yeah. I'm going to give you your allowance, but we should be good and your family should be good. We're going to manage this money right for you. And then once you feel that, like, am I not going to take my gun out? I see what you're saying. I get it. I get it. I just, it sucks that now I feel a little bit bad
Starting point is 00:36:13 because he got a kid because like, yeah, you don't want to. Coming down so hard and he's so dumb for doing it. I feel bad for him because I'm like, come on, bro. Like, do better and I expect more, but at the same time, it's like, bro. I don't feel bad because I'm like, come on, bro. Do better. And I expect more. But at the same time, it's like, bro. I don't feel bad because we let it slide so many times. And now it's like, all right, bro, you didn't learn at all. And it's okay to come down on him. Listen,
Starting point is 00:36:33 it's not like we're saying, we've also been on this podcast. We've spoken privately about what an unbelievably gifted basketball player this kid is. He's one of my favorite players to watch. And he could be the face of the league. And I think that was what Akash was kind of saying before. It's just like it's not just the money. It's like everything is yours. Like you, Simba. As a fan, I'm disappointed. The NBA is just going, here you go.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Just don't bring your gun out on camera. Off camera, do whatever you want. But on camera, please don't bring your gun out. The league is yours. He had the culture behind him. Yes. Musicians behind him.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Little white kids want to do the fucking gritty just like him. Like, he was his, and he got spanked. He got in another thing of trouble. All the shit that's happened behind the scenes that the team knows about, which is probably 10 to 20 times more little infractions than the public knows about. And then he just keeps doing it, bro. He's looking at it. He's like, look at all these
Starting point is 00:37:33 old head on TV telling me, fuck this, you're being so stupid. But all my young people around me, all the rappers, everybody. Keep it real. Come on. Nah, bro. I hope he turns it around. I hope he listens to the people around him that want
Starting point is 00:37:47 the best for him. And he's not going to do it without saying, you're just being a dumbass. Like, that is, but at the same time, like, we have a podcast. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I feel you. We have our jobs. We have to do our jobs, bro. And that means we have to call strangers that could beat us up dumb. Yeah, yeah. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah, you were talking kind of crazy before about this, son. You were talking crazy, son. He's going to go back at a house call and get the strap. Yeah, yeah. I told you to. Yeah, you was talking kind of crazy before about his son. You was talking crazy, son. He was talking about his kid. He was going back at the house call and get the strap on you, bro. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Anyway, listen, talking about someone else who refuses to listen to the criticism about him, your boy Donald Trump literally just, I think it's not even dug the grave of DeSantis. He's finished putting the last bit of dirt.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You know when you already have the body there? Yeah. And there's that last lump of dirt and the dirt is now higher than the grass because the body's in there? Seedlings are starting to sprout and shit. DeSantis is six feet under the ground still crying about Disney characters.
Starting point is 00:38:45 We don't give a fuck. He really think we care about Disney being gay. We don't care, bro. Yeah, who cares, dude? Talk some shit about women being ugly. Tell me which women you don't fuck. That's how I like you. That's how you'll be my president.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Tell a woman to her face, you not getting this dick. Mood. That's it. That's how you become president, bro. Tell a woman to her face, you're not getting this dick. That's it. That's how you become president, bro. DeSantis is dead. It's not even close. And I don't think there's anybody, what is it? The fucking Healy or whatever the girl is?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Who? Nikki Haley? Oh, Nikki Haley. Oh, yeah. You're not even in a fucking ballpark. Whack. Forget it. Whack. This dude does whatever the fuck he wants and the Democrats better hope that they come up
Starting point is 00:39:29 with some fucking idea. Literally, the only chance I think that the Republican Party has is if he goes to prison. It's not even if he's convicted.
Starting point is 00:39:37 He got convicted of sexually assaulting that girl, came right on TV like she was 60. He said this, he goes, I fucked her in a closet.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I own the Plaza Hotel. Next door. I could have smashed it in a room. He almost was like, she raped me. He was like, she brought me in the room. She pushed me up against the dressing room. Why would she do this? He said a little bit I loved.
Starting point is 00:40:00 He was like, we went into this closet, which are all locked. She forgot that, but I guess this one wasn't locked. He was bringing out these little bits of information to prove that it was absolute bullshit. And then he starts talking about her pets. She has a cat named Vagina. I don't know what you want to do with that, but a cat named Vagina? What kind of woman is this?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, what kind of woman is this? A cat named Vagina. To fuck a man in a closet with a cat named Vagina? I just met this woman. I was dying laughing. Bro, my point is, how is DeSantis going to compete with that? The poor guy who's probably way more qualified in many political ways, et cetera, and by all means a smart dude, he's a veteran,
Starting point is 00:40:37 he's going to be a shell of himself the second he is across from Trump and Trump just starts fucking landing haymakers on him. He needs a writer. But even the writer shit. He's even losing Florida. You know what it is? I think this is the Hillary thing too. Did you ever see Hillary with the Breakfast Club? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:56 No. God, dear God. No, no, no, no, no, no. It was the most human she's ever looked. They asked her about the hot sauce in the bag thing and Charlamagne I think goes, when you said you the hot sauce in the bag thing, and Charlamagne, I think, goes, like, when you said you had hot sauce in your bag, like, were you just pandering to black people? And then she just goes, I mean, did it work?
Starting point is 00:41:13 Like, she had this moment, like a big dick moment. Where she forgot she was a politician for a second. And to the credit of Charlamagne and the Breakfast Club, they were able to pull that out of her. But what happens to a lot of these political figures is they Breakfast Club, they were able to pull that out of her. But what happens to a lot of these political figures is they get involved,
Starting point is 00:41:27 they're like locked into these typical structures, right? Where every single word and every single sentence that they say is like not called field tested, but something tested. Curated maybe. No, no, it's like focus groups. Focus groups, focus groups.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yeah, yeah, it's focus group. And they're so paranoid to veer off of that. They lose all their authenticity. And then we usually can't see that when both of them are doing it. But when you have one that is not doing it, and then one that is, it is. Night and day, yeah. Oh, my God. Night and day.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And it's like, I think DeSantis is literally locked in that Hillary mode where it's like, it's mine. The Republican nomination is mine. I could fuck it up. I could fuck it up. You think he's had it for too long and that's how it got in his head? He's playing, what is it in football? Prevent defense? Prevent defense.
Starting point is 00:42:13 He's playing prevent defense and that's going to prevent his ass from getting that nomination. Because he hadn't even officially announced that on thing that he's running. Bro, apparently they had all of his advisors come meet him up over this past weekend where they have to like re-strategize what they're going to do. I think he thought it was going to be an easy, it was a layup. And I think we did too. We were like, ain't no way Trump could come back from this. When he wants attention, he gets attention, bro. It's unbelievable. It's un-fucking-believable. Also the stuff they're prosecuting him for is like, this woman is saying, and you know, if she gave five and if it really happened and she got five million
Starting point is 00:42:45 and she's happy, God bless, but she's like, he grabbed me by my vagina. He said he does this on tape. Wait, was that the grab the pussy? Was that the grab the pussy? Well, he didn't say it about her,
Starting point is 00:42:54 but that's what, when you're famous, you just grab women by the pussy. But that's how it's been for the last million years. Yeah, yeah. But here's this girl being like, he grabbed me by the pussy.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Fortunately or unfortunately. Bro, that line. That line. No, no, unfortunately or fortunately. Or fortunately. Ending with fortunately is even or unfortunately. Bro, that line... That line, bro. No, no, unfortunately or fortunately. Or fortunately. Ending with fortunately is even funnier. Bro, bro, it's so funny
Starting point is 00:43:09 because it's like... It's like sometimes it works. Do you know what I mean? Like you don't know until you try it. And he's basically saying, I've tried it. And it works. He said one here where he's like,
Starting point is 00:43:21 I said let. I said they let you. I didn't say do it. You don't have to don't do it, but they let you. I didn't say do it. You don't have to don't do it, but they let you. I took it as unfortunate for women, but it's fortunate for men. That's the way it is. I was like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I think he meant unfortunately for the circumstances that don't work out, fortunately for the ones where the girl did want that. She wanted to fuck a star. I didn't take it like that. I took it like unfortunately for women, but fortunately for guys like me who are famous. He's saying women want to fuck stars and for the last million years
Starting point is 00:43:49 they've been wanting to do it. So you just grab their pussy and they'll let you do it. There might be a situation where they don't. That's unfortunate. But fortunately, it works out the way.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I took it as if you're rich, it's fortunately for you. And if you're poor, then unfortunately, no matter how nice of a guy you are, they won't let you do that. I think that's similar to what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Just the situation where it didn't work out, they weren't rich enough or successful enough. Life is good for rich people is what he's saying, fortunately or unfortunately. Yeah, he watched my joke. Yeah, that's okay. He remixed it and it wasn't as good, but he tried.
Starting point is 00:44:16 He did a good job. He did a good job. That was pretty good. He didn't come close, bro. That joke was fantastic. I almost, yo, you know who followed me? His son's wife. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Kimberly Guilfoyle. Yeah, yeah. You know how Instagram tells you why someone followed you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She literally watched the Trump grab her
Starting point is 00:44:35 by the pussy reel I posted and it followed. No. It said, Kimberly Guilfoyle followed you after watching your reel.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And then you clicked it? And it was like, grab the pussy, check it. That's so funny. See, women don't care your reel. And then you clicked it? And it was like, grab the pussy, Chuck! See, women don't care, bro. You think Trump saw it? 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 00:44:53 He's like, get this kid. I need this kid. This guy's got good, this kid's got good territory. He's got the pre-order and everything. I happened to get a deal from Truth Social immediately after. It's a great network. It's better than Twitter. That's for sure. You heard that one? He's like,
Starting point is 00:45:06 now my tweet on Truth Social. He don't even believe that shit, bro. He don't even believe he can tell when he gets shaky. That was the only thing that he was inauthentic about. He's like,
Starting point is 00:45:14 I got him, fucking. But that's my issue. Like, if liberals want to take him down, you're not going to get him with this. If you could get him in jail with the Georgia vote shit,
Starting point is 00:45:22 that's the only thing you should prosecute. Everything else, you're only making him stronger. Nah, wait on it. It looks worse if he has a bunch of shit. Even if the sum of the other shit is just so small. But what if?
Starting point is 00:45:36 Imagine he has the Georgia shit, the New York shit, the rape shit. Like, if it's a lot of shit, he's like, god damn, this motherfucker's toxic. Instead of just one thing. I don't know, man. Because to me, what you're saying is rational. Yeah. But people aren't rational. That's true. And I think all it takes is one thing that he's specifically pushing back on that you identify with for you to reject him, right?
Starting point is 00:45:55 And as long as he keeps fluffing or supporting his followers and saying the things that they want to hear, he should be good. Yeah. I didn't like in the town hall the January 6th rioter pardon. Oh, when he was, he said, he was like, look at the tweets. Yeah. He was like, I didn't incite it. Oh, no, no, no. That one was fire. He got the receipts. He's like, should I do it? I'll get the receipts. But they said, will you pardon the January 6th rioters? And he was like, when I get
Starting point is 00:46:22 in, if I get in, many of them will be pardoned. And that was like the main thing that I was like, come on, bro. Yeah, that was too far. He was spitting all this funny shit and like fire. And then he's like, yeah, you got to pardon someone.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I was like, come on, dude. You can grab a six-year-old girl's pussy in a Nordstrom's. You know what I'm saying? But you can't be out here pardoning a January 6th. Who cares? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:43 That's the one part I didn't like. You can tell he's kind of still pandering to Elaine. It seemed like everything else, he was just being him, like authentic, like with the money shit, with the Ukraine-Russia. Do you want Ukraine to win? And he's like, yo, fuck that question. Honestly, people tried to make him out to be like this Putin dick sucker right there. That was the most politically neutral, rational answer to the Russia-Ukraine conflict. This is going to be Afghanistan again. How many Russians
Starting point is 00:47:09 need to die? How many Ukrainians need to die? Yeah, I thought that was cool. It seemed like a very anti-war approach. Yeah, yeah. And people spun it immediately like, oh, this guy's a fucking puppet for Putin, etc. It's like, no. You have a situation where Russia's not going to stop. They're going to keep blowing people the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Just like we didn't stop in Afghanistan and Russians didn't stop in Syria, whatever this intervention is. How many people need to die? Can they come to an agreement? Can they carve out some spaces and just fucking stop? That is what a leader should do in that situation. She doubled down on that question and he went back at it again to prove her. What's that? I sound like some loser shit right there.
Starting point is 00:47:48 It's a proxy war, bro. Bro, we chose a side, bro. Yeah, we chose Canada against America. I'm just saying. You know what I mean? You ain't no winning, bro. I know, but it don't matter. We chose a side.
Starting point is 00:47:59 How many billion do you want to send them, bro? No, that's the thing. Why don't you care about black people? We just got to keep printing that shit. Take it out of the paycheck. We do it in our writing, bro? No, that's the thing. Like, why don't you care about black people? We just got to keep printing that shit. Like, come on. Take it out of the house paycheck. Take it out of the house money, bro. You can either send money or Americans.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Let's just send them the money. Neither. Neither. No, I want all our money. We send this fake money. I don't want it. Like, come on, son. I don't give a-
Starting point is 00:48:16 He's got Biden's face on it. They're like, this seems weird. A trillion dollar bill? Like, how does he even make that? Yo, but that's the fucking- That is the wild thing, though, is that people are not rational. And people are going to have that emotional reaction, which is, nah, it's us versus them.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Let's continue to print ourselves into debt, devalue. All your money you got saved, just think, every time we give Ukraine money. Comedy podcast. No, no, no, no, no, no. Like, come on. No, no, no, no, no. All your money you got saved is evaporating for them Ukrainrainians i hope you like that bro it's ftx bro you got your money in the fucking i hope you like it for a lot of reasons it's not just
Starting point is 00:48:52 the ukrainians we thank you our cause yeah we use this yeah of course but that is a reason that we can remove ourselves from we can't remove ourselves from paying everybody 1200 in a stipend because it's what is it uh nobody's working during a pandemic, but there are certain things that we don't have to do. That being one of them, it seems to me the easiest thing to stop giving a trillion dollars to Ukraine. That seems like the easiest thing to stop right now.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yeah, I don't know how that works. Because the end of this, if we not, because here's the thing, we're not ready to go buck. We're not ready to go out there and start fighting, right? So this shit is just going to last forever because they can't put enough pressure on you, on Russia to stop. Because here's the thing. We're not ready to go buck. We're not ready to go out there and start fighting, right? So this shit is just going to last forever because they can't put enough pressure on you, on Russia, to stop. And you know what's happening?
Starting point is 00:49:32 Your people are buying that Russian oil. Your people are fucking it up. Yeah, I wish we weren't doing that. Dude, Texans are buying it? India's buying Russian oil. China's buying Russian oil. Japan is even starting to buy Russian oil. So the sanctions ain't fucking working. This shit is embarrassing, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:46 This is we losing power, bro. Don't you think? Yes, yes. So what are we going to do? Are we going to keep losing money and power? You might need to start a book.
Starting point is 00:49:52 So then what's the solution? What's the solution? Well, look then. We pull up. We either pull up or we pull out. It's a parade inside my city. Send John Moran to Russia.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Let's go. Let him see all of it. Pull it out. Even the way he held it, bro. That was actually smart. He's like, I him see all of it. Pull it out. Even the way he held it. I was actually smart. He's like, I didn't brandish it. I wasn't noticing. He's like, it was a key change.
Starting point is 00:50:11 We should get rid of these. All the proud rappers do that. They always hold it just by the extender. Just flick it around. Once the Russians hear NBA Youngboy, they know it's over. It's a wrap. That's what it is. They just need to blast that while we roll up.
Starting point is 00:50:23 That's fine. But we can't pull out. We really can't. We can't at this point. We are too invested. Yes. That's going to look like a crazy L. But what we can do.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Ukraine immediately is going to be like, all right, you got it. Take whatever you want. Wait. Ukraine will be. Like to Russia. If we stop funding this war, Ukraine is going to have to be like, all right, Russia. Can I tell you what's going to happen? You're now our daddy. In 10 years from Can I tell you what's going to happen? You're now our daddy.
Starting point is 00:50:45 In 10 years from now, this is what's going to happen. Or 10 or 12 years when this thing is finally done. Russia's going to have the exact amount of land that they have right now. They're going to have the exact positions. Ukraine's going to keep the exact ones. And it was 10 years and trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of people dead for no fucking reason. We'll see in 10 years, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:03 We saw it with Afghanistan. The Taliban is back in power. Literally nothing changed. 12 years. Think about all the people that died. The same thing's going to happen now. And only this time, they're God-fearing Christians. That's fucking worse.
Starting point is 00:51:19 You want white people to die? You know what I mean? You want white people to die? But they over there. Hey, white, white. White, white, to die? You know what I mean? Like, come on. You want white people to die? But they over there. Hey, white, white. Hey, white, white. If he's a man, white, white.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Bro, there's levels to this. Eastern Europeans not white, white. They're not white, bro. I think you told us this from the jump. Yeah, they're not white. They are.
Starting point is 00:51:35 They are, though. But they're that zip-zip. They are that zip-zip. They are, but they're not. Yeah. Real quick, what did you think about the backlash CNN got
Starting point is 00:51:43 for having the town hall? Did you hear what Anderson Cooper said? They deserve, but tell me, Tom. He said something like, you have every right to never watch this network again. You have every right to be outraged. But let me ask you a question. Do you think, this is the Republican frontrunner, do you think it's good to just stay in your silos? Do you think that's helping?
Starting point is 00:51:57 And that shit infuriated me. Like, bro, y'all built the silo. You built the silo for motherfuckers to get into for 10 years, and now you got a problem with it? I mean, they're trying to re-correct. They're trying to re-brand it. It was a crazy hop, a crazy jump in, though. Oh, no, they are trying to re-brand it. No, stupid as fuck. The way they did it. But I like the fact that they did
Starting point is 00:52:16 and I think that we should see more of it 100%, but I think your criticism of Anderson specifically is perfect because don't be part of the problem and then immediately criticize the people who are criticizing you. You're the hypocrite. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:52:27 Because you guaranteed Anderson Cooper can be seen on TV going, why would you platform such a person? Thousand percent. Yeah. And then they do it immediately and they have the biggest views they've probably had in fucking years. Since 2020 probably. So what's interesting about it to me is they can no longer say that they weren't part of the reason why he is elected president. Yes, they used up their plausible deniability. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Even though I think there were a massive reason he got elected, and I think they wanted him to get reelected so fucking badly. Because if Trump wins, people are watching again. They made some comments. I forget who it was. It was like the spokesperson for CNN or the president or whoever. But basically they were like, oh, we highlighted. Because people were like, why are there so many Trump people in the audience? Like he's getting applauses after everything. I think the whole audience was.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And he made a comment where he was like, we didn't highlight the Trump voter enough in 2016, which I think gave a disproportionate view as to what the election was, what was happening with the election. So we try to make it more proportional to like how America actually is. So real quick, by highlight the Trump voter enough, you mean they weren't reflected within their viewership? I think they were basically saying no one was covering the Trump voter.
Starting point is 00:53:31 They were pretending it didn't exist. Or they were just some stupid hillbilly racists that they don't even need to consider. And so Trump's at a thing and it's just all white liberals from New York and LA and Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And then everyone's watching and going, oh, there's no way he's going to win without realizing, oh no, there's a lot of regular people in the United States that want to vote for Trump. That's actually a great catch. We wanted to highlight that. And then secondly, he said another thing that bugged me. Who is he?
Starting point is 00:53:54 I forget who it was. It was a spokesperson. It was a comment made by CNN addressing the backlash. Okay. Philip DeFranco commented on it in his. Was he the new, there's like a new CEO. I think it's the new CEO. Yeah, new CEO.
Starting point is 00:54:03 He's been there for like a year. What's his name? Chris Licht. Yeah, I think so. He's been there for like a year. What's his name? Chris Licht. Yeah, I think so. I'm trying to find the exact comment, but he made a thing where he goes, at the end of the day, the woman that was hosting it did a great job,
Starting point is 00:54:12 and we made a lot of news, which is our job. And I was like, whoa. Yeah. Make a lot of news. Your job is not to make news. Make news is weird. Don't make news. Report on the news, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Wow. I thought that was so weird. Freudian slip, for sure. Maybe. I don't know. I'm trying to find the exact comment to make sure I'm not taking it out of context.
Starting point is 00:54:28 But it's the equivalent of Stephen A. Smith getting in a fight with someone and being like, yeah, you know, we're making sports. We're making sports. It's like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Report the sports. You don't got to make it. You don't got to get into it. It's like him running on the court shooting the hoop and being like, that's the job.
Starting point is 00:54:39 That's what it is. You have to make fucking news. We do want Stephen A. Smith to make headlines. We do enjoy that. If he's going on the court trying to play defense, it's like, no, this is not the job. Don't be making news. But yeah, I just thought it was like, I thought, yeah, it annoyed me.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I'm like, dude, just report. You don't have to be trying to rile people up. I didn't have a problem with them doing the town hall. Like you said, it's good. It's good overall. I just think suddenly now, and maybe you've been, I have a feeling it's a new CEO saying, hey, let's get ratings. But to suddenly say, hey guys, let's not stay in our silos.
Starting point is 00:55:10 You have encouraged this behavior for a decade. Yeah, yeah. I honestly, like you might just, might as well just fire Anderson too, because he's not going to fit the new silo that they're probably trying to occupy. I imagine Chris Licht or whatever his name is, has seen a shift in American sentiment towards political ideology and is like, yo, why don't we pull this shit back to the middle? We can prove we're going to do that by having Trump on and not having a bunch of fucking liberals in the audience booing him, but show people liking him and, or just have at least some of his fans there. And then if they
Starting point is 00:55:41 can occupy that space in the middle, maybe they become the trusted space for news that they were when you and I were coming up. Yes. I mean, I remember before Trump, when I want to know what happened. Yep. What did you do? CNN.com. It was ESPN.com, CNN.com. Yeah. And I just looked at those things as the truth. This is just what happened. It wasn't interesting. It wasn't sexy. Matter of fact, when Bourdain went to CNN, I was like, why would you go to the boring news place? I literally
Starting point is 00:56:12 was shocked. I was like, you have so much charisma and character, you're just going to go to the place that just says what it is? And the jump that they've made from then to now. And maybe, who knows, maybe they were biased back then and I didn't. That's what I was going to say. I was like, I wonder if we were just like too much
Starting point is 00:56:28 in the sauce where we just like, we weren't aware that they were so one-sided. Yes, I would think it started with George Bush Jr. Where the Iraq war happened in Afghanistan where they're like, oh, there's a, and then Jon Stewart was the first guy to start really getting ratings and headlines by shitting on Bush Jr. and the war and everything.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I think they were like, oh, there's a market here. We can do this. Fox is going left. I'm going right. We can just go left. And now, hey, look at us. We got a little thing. And then it just built and built.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And then Trump was the snowball. Fox is in a tough place now. They have made it pretty clear that they don't exactly want Trump to win. They probably wanted DeSantis, but DeSantis is six feet under the ground. So there's no chance that he could ever become president. No, it's a wrap. I mean, we could have another zombie president.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Honestly, I wouldn't be upset at zombie DeSantis. I don't think that that would be that bad but even though he might be better at managing the political system that wasn't something that Trump was good at at all he didn't know how to navigate politics but he knows how to get attention and as we know attention is what wins elections so who the fuck do they support and which way do they go? Their viewers are going to be caught up by Trump 100% because I think you mentioned this all the time. Charlamagne mentions all the time. Republicans fall in line. Yeah. And their viewers are then going to be at odds with the candidate that they're promoting. So then they will lose viewers to Newsmax
Starting point is 00:58:06 or One America News or something like that. They're in a really tricky place right now. I think what they always do is they read the wins and then they fall in line. I remember Trump got pissed. Yeah, Trump was pissed because in 2020, they announced, I think, New Mexico had gone for Biden and then Trump got upset.
Starting point is 00:58:24 And they were like, yeah, they conceded the election, Biden won. And then once they read the wins being like, yo, the election was stolen, now Tucker Carlson's getting on at night being like, hey, this election isn't legit, blah, blah, blah. They're going to fall in line with Trump, no problem. Why do you feel that Fox News has distanced himself from Trump? Because all the stuff that came out was behind the scenes of their anchors that were saying, we don't fuck with him. But publicly they were saying. I thought that the powers that be were putting their money, time, and energy behind DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:58:56 That's kind of what I thought. But I don't really have any program to support that. like program to support that. I will say this, like the people, the characters at Fox News, like the political pundits, anytime I spoke to them,
Starting point is 00:59:14 they thought Trump was a goofy. And when they're on air, that wasn't, they were not keeping the same energy. So that speaks to what you guys are saying, which was, you know, they're ready to fall in line and support whoever's going to keep them in their position, not necessarily of power, but authority.
Starting point is 00:59:31 It's a finalist, but it's a winning strategy. You guys watched the session? No. They had this past episode. It was basically like the... And it's like they were covering election night, and they were like, if we kind of call this area first, even though all the numbers aren't in, it can sway the public and then create the doubt and all this shit. It was like.
Starting point is 00:59:53 That's some real shit. Yeah, that's real shit. Like, it was crazy. And then you're like, oh, we call it first. We'll be in his favor. And then, you know, we have to wreck that. So just to clarify to everybody watching right now, maybe it's not even from America. And I'm sure this happens in your shitty countries too, but what basically happens is when these votes are counted, we have different time zones, et cetera, you can call a district or a state with a very small percentage of the votes that are in.
Starting point is 01:00:26 percentage of the votes that are in. It doesn't need to be 90% in. They can judge based on the first, I'm going to fuck up the percentage, but they can judge on a small percentage and be like, all right, this is probably going to go in this direction. So I think what was happening in certain districts is they were getting the Republican districts in before the Democratic districts, and they were calling or trying to make that call based on those Republican numbers, knowing full well when like the urban center number came in that it was probably going to skew it back to Democrats. Yeah. So, but that is crazy. The strategy behind that, somebody might go, I don't need to go out and vote today.
Starting point is 01:00:58 This guy's already going to win. Because you're trying to reduce numbers, right? That's the idea. Ooh, man, that's diabolical. And you create the doubt because it's like the whole night they're reporting, it's like, ah, he's winning, he's winning, he's winning in this state. And then all of a sudden at the last minute, the state went the other way, even though you were reporting that this person's up. Oh, so that creates the- Oh, this election was stolen.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Oh, wow. They just flipped it at the last minute. You know, wow. They did because they called it the wrong way first. Because imagine being awake because most people fall asleep, and then you wake up to the fucking news of it, like depending on what coast you live on. That's really interesting.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Imagine you go to sleep, my guy's up, you wake up. So the seed of doubt has already been sown. Interesting. Action is scary. It's like they put the score of an NBA game without the actual points, just like kind of who's passing the most. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got a lot of possessions, so they got it. They is scary. It's like they put the score of an NBA game without the actual points, just like kind of who's passing the most. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got a lot of possessions, so they got it.
Starting point is 01:01:47 They're winning. They got 15 with 20 minutes to go. In the first quarter? Yeah. Yeah, like my fucking knicks. Did you guys see the fight this weekend, by the way? Sorry, real quick, but this is the same thing Robbie brought up that was interesting. Our friend Robbie Slovic, very funny comic, left-leaning for sure, but he said in 2020 when Trump tried to overturn the election.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Don't put that on Robbie. No, this is a for sure Robbie thing. I'm going to fuck up. No, he's saying left-leaning. Don't put that on Robbie. Robbie will tell you. You're calling him a cuck, dude. Come on. Robbie's a cuck. Robbie's a good guy. Robbie's a cuck. I'm telling you he's a cuck. He's a right-wing Robbie.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Yeah. We got a mole in Jon Stewart's camp. He writes on the Jon Stewart show. Yeah, so that's how we get that good information. That's how you know he's a cuck. Every once in a while, Jon Stewart will say some wild shit. He'll be like, yeah, you should just punch a 60-year-old bitch that got a cat named Vagina if you want.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And then it's like, how'd that get in the script? I don't know, Robbie. How did it get in there, Robbie? But he said in 2020, when they tried to overturn the election, electoral officials, most of them were like, no, you can't do that. So what Republicans did was replace those electoral officials with guys who were like, yeah, I'll play ball. If y'all fight the election, let's overturn it. Who gives a fuck? And that could be crazy in 2024 if they got guys in important districts who are like, no, we're just going to overturn it.
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Starting point is 01:06:10 Both shows were fucking amazing. May 31st, I'm going to be in Cleveland, Ohio at Hilarity's. June 1st, Columbus, Ohio at the Columbus Funny Bone. Schultz says you got the best chicken tenders on earth. I don't really believe you, but we'll see. June 14th, Buffalo, New York. June 15th, Rochester, New York. I got a bunch more shows. Go to my website,
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Starting point is 01:06:41 Yo, I feel bad about doing it at his own gym. If we went to a private gym, you know what I mean? Have some sympathy for the man. Exactly. We weren't videotaping, but those are his people. He's going to have to fuck him up like that at his own gym? Yo, that's, I feel bad about doing it at his own gym. If we went to like a private gym, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have some sympathy for the man. Exactly. We weren't videotaping, but like those are his people. He's going to have to see them tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:06:50 He's going to have to see them next time. You put him on IG Live, yo. I know, I fucked up. How dare you? I did, I did. I waved the gun on him. That was disrespectful. Fucked him up, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:56 That was very, very disrespectful. Fucked him up. No, no, no. Give us some backstory, though. Well, that was, most of the story was my back was on the mat. That was the, the whole story is the back of the mat no it was it we were in phoenix doing shows and um and i hit up uh sean and uh his uh his coach tim
Starting point is 01:07:15 yeah and they have a gym that's like maybe like 20 minutes away from where we're staying so we went out there to work out and uh yo first of all sean if you can get the the striking one up yeah obviously sean's nice as fuck like these guys are elite athletes it's great but it is really it's always really interesting being in there with a guy who um is like an elite elite striker and him talking about the things that he's doing to make it really difficult for me now we weren't really sparring we weren't even touching each other, but more just kind of like throwing the strikes. But he does a couple things that are really great.
Starting point is 01:07:50 He fully extends on his punches. You know when people train, you're training mitts, you're training bags, it's very easy to just kind of like, yeah, yeah, what is it called, T-Rex arms it or whatever, right? And if you watch him, everything is full extension, full extension, and what that does is
Starting point is 01:08:05 allows you to strike at distance. So like, here's a guy who I'm taller than, I'm longer than, but is able to close distance and kind of pretty much hit me whenever he wants. It was really impressive. Now I'm imagining, now I'm 200 pounds. He fights at 135. God damn.
Starting point is 01:08:23 So I'm thinking like, if there's a guy, he's got to go up against Aljo, right? He's fighting Aljo for the belt. You know what I mean? So like that's something Aljo, who is elite as fuck too, it was also cool to see Sean acknowledge that like Aljo is nice. Yeah. Like it wasn't like hate or shit. It was like, yeah, he's nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:40 But that's something Aljo's going to have to deal with. Looking at someone who is striking from a distance and not, and using the full length of the arms. Do you have the video? I realize I don't have it on my phone. Yeah, I'll send it to you. And then I did this jujitsu shit. I ain't never done jujitsu before. That, you know, jujitsu kind of might be real, bro.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Kind of might be, huh? That's shitty. Well, he's probably having this. Bro, I didn't think jujitsu was real, and I didn't think wrestling was real. Bro, this guy, Tim. Hold on. Do you want to pause for a minute? That's just a little horseplay. No, I'm going to give it to you right now.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Okay, sir. Jiu-jitsu is just a little horseplay. Wrestling? Is this all wrestling? That's funny. I don't know if that shit is one of those videos. I thought jiu-jitsu was horseplay, too, okay? And I genuinely thought, I was like, all I got to do is wrestle.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Like, all I got to do. Like, legit. I was like, all I got to do is wrestle. Like, all I got to do. Like, legit. I was like, all I got to do is kind of grab you, whatever, like that. But, dude, the way he little brothered me once, bro, I hope we don't have it on video. I was on the ground, and he just had his hand behind my neck, right?
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'm 6'2". I'm 200 fucking pounds. I'm a man. All right, maybe. You a man to me. In some districts. Yeah, we might have called that district a little too early. But this dude had his hand behind my neck,
Starting point is 01:09:51 and I couldn't get up. Like, I literally couldn't get up, because any time I would shift my weight to a position where I was trying to get up, he would shift it and just keep my weight over my center mass or something. It was a weird thing going on. And then just choke me out whenever the fuck he wants. He just liked being held.
Starting point is 01:10:10 He's like, damn. That hand feels good right there. I'm not talking about this one against Tim. I got up real quick on Sean. I got up real quick on Sean. Wait, where did Sean or Tim? Oh, where Tim was holding you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:22 This one I got up. But that was the shit right there. Hold on. Got that under leg or whatever that is. Look at it. Okay, now you back. Now you back, Schultz. Jab. And what's this fucking delay is killing me. Yeah. Yeah. But it's actually, I look better in the delay, so.
Starting point is 01:10:39 You do. You do. It looks amazing. Keep this delay when you put the video out, too. Yeah. Yeah, look at it. Look at that spinning kick. Fuck, bro. delay when you put the video out. Yeah. Yeah, look at it. Look at that. That spinning kick. Fuck, bro. Yeah, you said the spinning.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I asked him. I was like, yo, what was the thing that tired you out the most? Was it the cardio from boxing? No, this kick right here. Watch, watch. He lands. Oh, look at that shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:10:56 No, watch. Boom. That one right there. Pause. He lands. I think it's called a teep or something like that. A teep. And it's just a front kick to the belly right here.
Starting point is 01:11:07 You ever been hit with a body shot in like sparring or whatever like that? And you know how it's just like your oxygen level, let's say it's at 100, it just takes it to 50. It's video game shit. Your body feels like a video game. Usually when you get hit when you're inhaling. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, so it's like you're on inhale. You're loosing. And then somebody so it's like you're on inhale. You're loosing.
Starting point is 01:11:26 And then somebody hits you right while you're going in. Oh, because if you're squashing, it's not removing any air. Bro. Yeah. Interesting. Do they try a timeout, you think?
Starting point is 01:11:34 Nah, ain't no way, bro. Is there any way? Ain't no way. You're just throwing. But dude, that right there, that little, and he just like kind of tapped. I literally felt 50%,
Starting point is 01:11:43 50% of the oxygen go. And I was like, oh my God. And it's different than like a liver shot. That's what Ryan got hit with by tank. That is just your oxygen going away. And you need a few steps to get that oxygen back. But yeah, I don't know why I'm even talking about this. I just blacked out.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yeah. I think CT, I got CT. why I'm even talking about this. I just blacked out. Yeah. I think he said an interesting thing. Like, uh, he was doing a lot of looks. He was doing Southpaw regular kicks or whatever. And I was like, yeah, it was kind of like, uh, it was like paralyzing in a weird way, you know? And he's like, yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. Like, I'm trying to make you think about what I'm going to throw at you so that you get confused. And when you're confused, you really just throw what you're most comfortable with. So I kept kind of throwing jabs. Because I'm reacting instead of going, all right, let me set up one, two, then a pull, and then another. But now I'm just going, fuck, how do I block the leg?
Starting point is 01:12:42 He's strategically applying pressure to put you into the thing that's most predictable. Yep, literally. And then now he knows who I'm going to throw because he's confused me into making me a right. He goes overhand right. Exactly. Okay. I'm going to scare him overhand right uppercut.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Exactly. So it was, it was, and I knew it was happening. I'm going, I know he knows I'm throwing a jab, but he's also waiting for the jab now to counter it with a spank back fist. And you can't break from your routine. Exactly. No matter how much you're trying, if you're confused, you're just going to go to it.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And they've said that even, I've seen some MMA dudes talk about this, where it's like, once someone feels, it was a, it was a, what is my man from, Jorge Masvidal. Okay. Remember, he lands a flying knee on Ben Asprey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes, I knew that if I charged him, he would revert to what he's most comfortable at, which is wrestling. This guy is one of the most amazing wrestlers. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:31 In, what's it called? In MMA history. And the knee, if in wrestling, you do what's called shoot. You shoot for somebody's legs. Right, right, right. So he runs at him. He goes to wrestling brain. He knows he's going to shoot.
Starting point is 01:13:43 What am I comfortable with? Shooting. Exactly. And then we know he's going to shoot knee right in the face. That's brilliant. It's interesting, the psychology of it and like the importance of, the importance of like putting yourself in those sparring scenarios over and over and over again so that you are comfortable at everything that's coming at you. I've seen this with NBA players that have been playing since their kid, like the Ball Brothers have been playing since they're so young
Starting point is 01:14:07 that there's rarely a scenario where they're uncomfortable in. They're on a fast break. Somebody charges at them behind the back. It's like they've gone through 10,000 hours of all these different things. And then you find the guys that got the game later. They're 18, 19, 20 years old.
Starting point is 01:14:23 They just don't have the hours. That's the thing. Like, I think that is the differentiator in every elite industry. In any industry, the thing that separates the greatest from the goodest is the ability to override your body's natural compulsion. When you're in a stressful situation, you're doing standup, you're fighting, your body's going, oh, my throat's going to get dry. Oh, I'm going to start getting sweaty. Oh, I'm going to start reacting. And when people go, oh, that person's unhuman, they're unnatural. They're freaks of nature. They are because they're overriding
Starting point is 01:14:48 what their body's naturally telling them to do. And the way that you do that is just by repetition, repetition. Doing it intentionally to create intentional confidence that then becomes passive. It has to be passive. There's a beautiful system one that turns into a system two. Playoff experience. That's what I was getting at.
Starting point is 01:15:04 LeBron used to choke in the early days. Then he has so much playoff experience, and this motherfucker is like Zen Master. I've seen it all. I've been here before. I know exactly how to handle the situation. There's a great video of John Calipari, the coach. He coaches Kentucky. Kentucky, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:18 And he is shooting some shots with, I believe, Rod Strickland and Derrick Rose. Okay. And Derrick Rose has just got into the NBA, and Rod, I think, is maybe done with his tenure there. And I think Calipari was Derrick Rose's coach in Memphis. Yes. I believe it's Rod Strickland. I'm not exactly sure.
Starting point is 01:15:35 And he goes, yeah, so what we got to do is we got to hit 10 shots in a row from the baseline. And if you miss one, the other guy gets to go. And you just got to keep on trying to hit 10, and the other guy gets to go. And he goes, now I'm going to let Rod do it. Rod's been in the league for over 10 years, so he can do this no problem.
Starting point is 01:15:50 There's no big deal. He's been in high-pressure situations. It's not any big deal. And as Rod's shooting, he's talking. He goes, yeah, he got this. This is easy for him. Eight, nine, he goes, he's been in the league, whatever. Now Derek goes to shoot.
Starting point is 01:16:00 He goes, now Derek, he's just been in the league two years. He's going to fuck this up. He's going to guarantee he fucked this up. He goes, Derek gets to seven. It's guaranteed because he's just been in the league two years. He's going to fuck this up. He's going to guarantee fuck this up. He goes, Derek gets to seven. It's guaranteed because he hasn't been in the league that much. Eight, clank. Wow.
Starting point is 01:16:12 He goes, and it really is what you were just saying. It's like making that passive, that anxiety can start to build up. And the more time you have in every one of those experiences, the more comfortable you are. And the guys that have been fighting since they're a kid, like a Tank Davis, there is no punch that hasn't been thrown at him. There is no punch, you know what I mean? There's no defense that he hasn't seen. There's a beautiful video of him setting up Ryan Davis
Starting point is 01:16:33 for that first knockdown. It is beautiful. Tank is a southpaw. Ryan is conventional. And Tank posts. He doesn't throw a punch. He just puts a right jab out straight. And there's a video of Ryan throwing the same left hook over the jab.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Right? He posts. Ryan throws a left hook over the jab and misses. That's one. Tank posts again. He's like, let me see if that motherfucker threw that same hook again. Throws it again. So he knows on this third post exactly what Ryan's gonna do post again
Starting point is 01:17:06 Ryan goes to throw ducks under and if you're throwing over he could duck under and boom but he but it was like he made him throw the punch yeah Ryan thought that he was throwing because he wanted to yeah take me juke he was going to was comfortable yeah and it's that that what is Ryan's punch what does everybody know it is yeah automatic recall it's just the is Ryan's punch what does everybody know it is the left hook yeah automatic recall it's just the experience they asked Magnus Carlson they're like
Starting point is 01:17:28 how do you feel so comfortable that's the chess guy the chess player yeah how do you feel so comfortable when you're in like a chess match the finals
Starting point is 01:17:33 world championship and he's just like yeah I have this automatic recall of every position that's ever been played that I've ever seen yeah so it's like
Starting point is 01:17:39 oh son there's a sorry go ahead you get into that position someone plays this thing and I go oh this is Kasparov 1994 I know what to do there was a, sorry. Go ahead, no, go ahead. You get into that position, someone plays this thing, and I go, oh, this is Kasparov, 1994. I know what to do.
Starting point is 01:17:47 There was a great fucking clip going around on IG, Warriors-Lakers, I believe it's game four. So the Warriors have the ball to tie the game. This was fantastic. And if they make this shot, it goes into overtime. If they win, it's 2-2. If they lose, they're down 3-1. The play they run is a play that they ran in 2018.
Starting point is 01:18:03 LeBron has a photographic memory. He always says this. But just from the setup of the play, you can see LeBron in this year, 2023, whatever pick they set, he tells Anthony Davis, go over there. Anthony Davis gets in the way of Klay Thompson, who's going over there, so you can't pass the ball to Klay Thompson. LeBron knows the next option is to go to Draymond Green. He gets in front of Draymond Green because he's seen this exact scenario hurt them in 2018.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And now, five years later, I got all the experience. I've seen this exact thing. Magnus Carlsen recall, hey, AD, you go down that way. I'm going to come in this way. They bungle the last possession or whatever, and then the Lakers win.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Strictly off of a recall. Yeah, but it's more than fundamentals. It's just the experience. You give your jokes now to you 10 years ago, even if it's the exact same jokes, they're fundamentally better, but their performance won't be as good as it is now because you don't have the experience. Yeah. And the experience is not telling them. The experience is the reaction to telling them and how you react to a big reaction, a poor reaction, a mid-level reaction. That is the experience. Even a new joke, when
Starting point is 01:19:06 you're telling it, you don't know how to tell it when they don't react. You start to forget parts of it because you haven't had that experience yet. You get a heckle, a cut breaks. Exactly. All of a sudden, now you're out of it. You watch someone that's really good at negotiating. Have you ever seen a genius negotiator? Even some of the watch guys. Yeah, even Dove. Dove could tell you what to do, and you still won't do it as well as someone that's just in the moment because they know how to react to someone applying pressure. It's crazy. Unless you're in Morocco, then you're
Starting point is 01:19:32 fucked. You get fucking rinsed. Okay, you want to see me get tapped out real quick, my Tim? Yeah, this one's great. Let's see. This is on Mark's IG story. So fast. Your face. It was funny at some point
Starting point is 01:19:51 I was like to actually do the chokehold. Hold on. Look at my tongue. Don't I look like an orca coming up from the ocean? You ever seen like a killer whale
Starting point is 01:19:58 in SeaWorld? Look at your eyes. Yeah, I'm dead. And what's funny is that in order to complete the chokehold you gotta grab the other arm. Oh yeah, it's not even completed. Dude, I almost you got to grab the other arm. It's not even completed.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Dude, I almost tapped. It's not even done. It's not even completed. I almost tapped. He don't know this. I almost tapped just from him wrapping up my belly tights. So he got one leg on my belly and squeezed. And I was like, oh, you're going to go there.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I think all my air is in my stomach or something like that. Yeah, you made me fart. Fuck you. Yeah, dude. Bro, I tapped him out. He did the funniest shit. I tapped him out. What did he do? But I didn't win.
Starting point is 01:20:32 He let me put him in a choke and he refused to tap. So I was like, here, I'll tap for you. Like, I... The first time in history, someone was in a winning position and then tapped out.
Starting point is 01:20:41 He was choking him out and Tim was like, keep going, keep cranking. He let me put him in a triangle. Keep cranking. And I felt it was so tight and he was like you're getting there and he's starting to get red and I was like it's okay it's okay I tapped him while he was winning but no because he actually he wasn't like you have it in he was going I need to feel the oxygen going and me feeling the oxygen going is very quick.
Starting point is 01:21:05 He's been doing this forever. I imagine black belt jujitsu. So he's like, literally, when is it going to go? And I'm like, I don't need to take you there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? That's overriding the biology. Yeah, I'm not overriding that shit.
Starting point is 01:21:18 But I will say jujitsu, the cardio on jujitsu is crazy, or just the grappling. And I see why now elite strikers in MMA get so exhausted when somebody takes them on the ground. Because the cardio is completely different. Completely different. You are kind of, like in striking, you're using your cardio when you're actually throwing. But outside of that, you're in a pretty passive state. Grappling? Every single muscle in your body is tense, flexing, trying to reposition your... It feels like climbing.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Do you know what I mean? You can't really take a break climbing. I'm hanging up here. I wrestled Derek Poston as a joke. Y'all weren't joking. Y'all were wrestling for who gets a feature for the wrestling tour. They were going at it. It was a good yeah, no. I mean, we were going. No wrestling for who gets a feature for the wrestling tour. They were going at it.
Starting point is 01:22:06 It was a good wrestle, though. No, you guys had a good one. Yeah, it was awesome. You wrestled other people. He gets competitive, right? Derek is wild competitive. It was the most fun. It was awesome.
Starting point is 01:22:15 But it was like. Oh, that means I got serious. Oh, dude. Because Mark had him. Mark had him. And there was a moment where Derek was like, this is not about to happen. Really? Oh, bro. Mark had him. Mark had him pretty much pinned. I thought you had him, and there was a moment where Derek was like, this is not about to happen. Really? Oh, bro.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Mark had him. Mark had him pretty much pinned. I thought you had him pinned. And then Derek was like, I can't let this happen for my people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did it end? It was a truce. I think Derek got back on top.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Yeah. Wait, what? So Derek won. He didn't get up? No, we got the video. But it was a truce, though. What you mean? You didn't say the video.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I got the video. No, no, no, it's fine. We was all fun. It was all fun, though. I saw it in real life. Did he not get back on top? No, because he had more strength, but I had more cardio. You're saying he didn't assume top position after you had top position?
Starting point is 01:22:57 And then I got top position back. Well, that's not what I said. But you said, how did it end? Did I get top position? Oh, end. Yeah. I walked out after that. How could you leave that how could you leave the pressure on you guys you know what I mean like yeah but like I've realized oh wrestling with your friends I realize this I'm there watching, you know what I'm saying? You never wrestle with your friends. I realize this shit is awesome.
Starting point is 01:23:26 It is different, you know what I mean? It's different when you've got to, like, if you just got nobody you know there, you could be silly. But when the boys are there, like, it's got to be serious. Relax, relax. You're all tense and shit.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Yo, it's all good, bro. Yeah, tense game. Bro, it's all good, dog. I know you are. If he got that position. He's so bad. I know he's so bad. He's so bad.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Because there's a thing. We were actually playing wrestling for fun. Next week, he's at Gagnon. World wrestling champion. Seven times. Subscribe. Check it out. I'm going to go pull up Jack Chibiti.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I'm looking up YouTube tutorials. I got all the videos. No, but you look like you had a little wrestling background. No. He's from Florida. Yeah, he's seven. I feel like that's just like their pastime. Hey little wrestling background. No. He's from Florida. Yeah, he's a seven-ass boy. I feel like that's just like their pastime. Hey, wrestling.
Starting point is 01:24:08 They wrestle. I took out a gator from a young age, bro. I mean, Derek looked like he had one too. You guys actually have technique. Derek's a real athlete. He played college football. Yeah, he's legit. He should have never let you take him down.
Starting point is 01:24:19 But then after... Why are y'all adding gas on us? We literally had a fun play fight. We should have never let you take this fight. Of course, Derek did good. He was an athlete. It felt like once Derek was like, oh, we got to be serious,
Starting point is 01:24:31 then he bodied it. He absolutely dominated it. But the beginning when he wasn't taking it serious, it was good. It was pretty good. You got to get your get back, bro. Wait, on who? On Derek.
Starting point is 01:24:41 You didn't let him body you like that. Come on, bro. Come on. What's wrong, bro? We had a fun play fight, and now you guys are making something different. Why is it play when you lose? Because we're best friends, bro. We were just having a fun play fight.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Oh, now you're best friends. You guys don't wrestle. That's what it is. Now you're best friends. I was wrestling. No, no, no. I wasn't wrestling. But y'all don't wrestle.
Starting point is 01:25:00 He's better against Tim than you did against Derek. 100%. 100%. No, against Derek. 100%. 100%. No, be honest. 100%. Did Derek actually try? Like, you were on your back? Stop it, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Bro, it was crazy. Stop it, dude. No, that was crazy. No, I made Derek do the, ugh. I made him do the tongue. He did the orchid. You didn't put it out? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:16 We threw a condom in the ring. We were like, yo, you don't need this, Derek. Derek, don't catch anything from Mark. You don't need this. You're right. Bro, I was smelly. I think that helped me, honestly. I had a stink to me.
Starting point is 01:25:26 He thought you were a tread. You had a fat ass and a beard. Yes, sir. I was wondering why he pulled my hair. Bro, he pulled my hair. I was like, bro, what are you doing? I was like, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. He was getting more serious than that.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Yeah, he felt the beard, then he stopped. He was like, I don't like being on top. You get on top. Oh, he let me assume position. Then he knew he didn't know what you were doing. Nah, it's a dude. Shout out to Doug. Shout out to Poston.
Starting point is 01:25:52 That was fun. Man, it was fun. It was great. Thank you, Phoenix, everybody, for coming out to the shows. That was great to just be back out on the road. It's been literally over a year since we were all on tour again. So that was so much fun to be back out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I love it. Yeah, I love it. Where was the venue? We were at Stand Up Live in Phoenix. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And a great club. Yeah. And then we pulled up on the Bad Friends show.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Oh, yeah. And Santino and Bobby were in town because they were doing their live pod. Yeah, yeah. Which was like down the block. So we popped into that. That was cool. We brought Sugar Sean in there too and the crowd went crazy. Yeah, yeah. Which was like down the block. So we popped into that. That was cool. We brought Sugar Sean in there too, and the crowd went crazy.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Fire, fire. And Santino came and popped in on the show at Stand Up Live, and that was fun too, man. Yeah, it was just a great weekend. I missed the road. It's easy, I think, when you... It's the best.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Yeah, when you cut something out, I think it's easy to... Hmm, how am I saying it? Like, I think you can get numb to something when you're doing it so much, right? And then when you stop doing it, you can... If you stop it for long enough,
Starting point is 01:26:58 you can forget what an important part of your life it was. Because I was still getting up in the city, so that itch was getting scratched with the standup, but being on the road, like being able to put together your set, you know what I mean? And like the changes that you can make and like realizing where the gaps are and then like finding new things that are really funny.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And, and just being with the guys, like we had like a fucking great time. Yeah. Like it was really funny just hanging around busting balls like it was just it was great i've missed it and i'm really looking forward to this to this summer and uh get a little tour going on yeah yeah i didn't get to headline for so many years that i'd never take for granted doing 45 is the fucking best feeling in the world to me as a
Starting point is 01:27:42 comic it's just the best. Stretching it out. We were in St. Louis this weekend and it was so funny because last time we had such a miserable experience. I was there during Corona. Mad death threats for no reason.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Complete bullshit thing. This time we went back. Everything was sold out. The audience was great. And immediately I went from hating St. Louis to be like, I could live in this.
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Starting point is 01:31:44 KSI, should he be disqualified for this knockout? People are saying KSI illegally used an elbow in this boxing match. There's another angle that's better. Let me pull it up. There's another angle that's better. Okay, and even before that, he lands a massive overhand right. Okay. I need to see that
Starting point is 01:32:07 because I keep seeing the elbow. No, he lands a massive overhand right and stuns this guy. The guy is trying to hold on because KSI is coming and then KSI hits him with an elbow.
Starting point is 01:32:17 There it is. That's the elbow. Go back. I mean, there's no question whether it's an elbow or not. We can all see. Oh, shit. But I don't think it's his intention to elbow him.
Starting point is 01:32:27 No, no. I think the guy is grabbing him, and he's trying to throw strikes. What is the rule on that? So it depends on the, what's it called? The commission? The sanctioning body there. Yeah, the commission in London, like what it's sanctioning. So some people might say
Starting point is 01:32:45 it's a no contest. I don't know what the deal is with, if it's an accidental elbow that changes the fight, you've seen like an accidental headbutt that causes a cut that stops a fight. Right, or eye pokes, some shit like that.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Exactly. That is a no contest. So what he's arguing is it should be a no contest. But he being Joe Fournier. But I had it written down here. Go. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:33:07 I think it should be a no contest. Yeah, I don't think KSI did that on purpose. And anybody who does, I think, is lying to themselves because they don't like KSI. But he did elbow the fuck out of him. He knocks out with a great elbow. I mean, kind of a textbook elbow. Yeah, it's tricky. It's tricky because, like, the guy is leaning in, grabbing,
Starting point is 01:33:28 and clearly hurt from the punch that happened before. He lands a massive overhand right on him. Yeah, and it's possible to see that because I keep seeing this. Even so, if the shot that takes you down is an illegal shot, it's like, you can't call that a win. Yeah, I don't think we're even saying he should have lost or whatever, but I could see it being. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the rules are the rules.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Maybe that's it. Maybe that's it. So maybe it has to be no contest. If that's the rule. I got to look at what the local commission. No, but when is it ever? Like, I know they can change rules for a fight, but I don't think there's ever a time where an illegal shot can be marked as a knockdown. So you can't mark a headbutt that knocks somebody out as a knockdown.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Or a knee or some shit. So what they'll do a lot of times is they'll go, that cut was caused by an illegal headbutt, and then if the cut stops it, then they'll go, but it has to be marked. Whereas the ref right there, and reasonably so, there's no way I would be able to tell elbow just from in the ring like you have this angle looks like a punch exactly so so the ref i guess didn't see it didn't call it they didn't have playback and then when the playback happened
Starting point is 01:34:33 then they go oh that was an elbow yeah i don't know if they would change it afterwards to no contest i don't know this overhand right is crazy it It's a little laggy, but you can see. Boom. Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck. So he goes big. Boom. Yeah, knocks him back. And that's his big punch.
Starting point is 01:34:55 So the guy. So now, so the thing with this is like, in case I was saying, yo, I'm fighting a real boxer. He's a professional boxer, 9-0, right? I don't know. Listen, with boxing, like the earlier fights in your career, you're fighting what are called tomato cans, people that are loose. There is, and he's not the only person that has done this. Every boxer has done this. Floyd did it like every pro boxer. Now the question is, is this his full-time job? No, he's done other things. I think he's been in like a business and nightlife, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:35:26 So if you go to the Dominican Republic, most people know this. You go to the Dominican Republic, you get these tomato cans to fight and they're basically put there to lose. So we don't know how padded the record is, but you can make the same thing about Tommy Fury. You go, well, yeah, he's got X amount of fights and he was fighting tomato cans. You know, the combined losses of all his fighters way more than the combined wins. Like, so they set you up with whatever so we can't really tell exactly how good he is
Starting point is 01:35:49 but i think that was the idea with this fight is i'm gonna fight a pro and beat him jake tried to fight a pro couldn't beat him i'm gonna do it so the question is does he go and fight i don't think there's any point in fighting this guy again no no no no, no. You kind of have to. If you're an actual fighter, you do. But if you're fighting in the purely entertainment part of it, nobody needs. They're not going for belts. They're going for belts. What round was it? Second.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Oh, second. Okay. And was he winning the whole fight, KSI? I don't know. I didn't watch the whole fight. Yeah, I don't know. Because that's the thing. What if the guy had a great first round?
Starting point is 01:36:26 Then it's like, nah. So that's what happened with Roley this weekend. Roley's the guy Gervonta knocked out before Ryan Garcia. Do you guys remember that? So he was losing this fight against a guy and then lands a couple shots and then the ref steps in and does a horrible stoppage. Like one of the worst stoppages I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:36:45 Even Roley was like, no, he shouldn't have been able to continue, but he won a belt. So that one, I think you got to run that back. But for these guys, it's like, I don't need to see him fight Fournier again. He lands a big shot. He fucking knocks him out with the elbow,
Starting point is 01:36:55 but not on purpose. Like, okay, go fight Tommy Fury or go fight Jake Paul. Yeah. Like, I think this part of boxing is just like the biggest fight. Yeah. I don't care to see this fight again. No, not at all. Even with like Tommy Fury, I don't know if I'd be, like, the biggest fight. Yeah. I don't care to see this fight again. No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Even with, like, Tommy Fury, I don't know if I'd care to see him fight Jake again. I only care about the Tommy fight because he'd be, yeah. Because Tommy beat Jake. And it's, like, building up to the Jake. Yeah. Like, okay, let Jake fight Nate. You go fight Tommy. Like, you could probably turn around quick and fight because this only went two rounds.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Yeah, ice your elbow. You're good. Yeah. Yeah. Ice your elbow. Yeah rounds yeah yeah so yeah I don't know I mean it's amazing what they've been doing with these fucking boxing events like they just became a boxing promoter and they're just putting up all these guys like these yeah it's so kind of embarrassing for boxing they really exposed boxing they exposed the lack of, they exposed the number one issue with boxing, which is
Starting point is 01:37:46 a complete and utter lack of a promotional tool. Canelo Alvarez fought last weekend, two weekends ago. Yeah. Did you guys even know? I knew,
Starting point is 01:37:57 but nobody cared that I know. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, one of the ghosts. We didn't have a, the so-called face of boxing is fighting
Starting point is 01:38:04 in Mexico. We don't, yeah, the so-called face of boxing is fighting in Mexico. We don't. Yeah. I don't even know the guy's fighting, this guy Ryder. I mean, respect for him going in there with Canelo, but at the same time, like, why are you fighting a guy we don't even know? Yeah. Like, what is happening in boxing? The problem with boxing, there's so much money in it, and there's not one person that owns it.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Like, UFC, you got Dana White who's like organizing and trying to make this one thing the best it could be. With boxing, you have all these different promoters and all they care about is just their fighters. And so now they have a bunch of fake belts just so I can call my guy a champion. How do you have six belts in one
Starting point is 01:38:40 fucking division? It's retarded. So it's like it just cheapens the brand and now it's like it's happened so long where it's like people really aren't caring about boxing anymore. Unless the fighters make it a big deal to care about. Could it also be that Canelo lost in losses in boxing? To your point about having so many bodies
Starting point is 01:38:55 and not one that can control it. Losses in boxing, way more detrimental to your career and eyeballs you get than UFC. A loss in UFC, you've said this many times, if you have a good loss, people are more excited to see you. The only reason why I say I agree with you and I think that that does make sense with boxing, the only reason why I say I don't think it's that big a deal
Starting point is 01:39:13 is because he's coming up in weight so much to fight these guys. Like Canelo shouldn't beat the guys. He should be fighting at 154, 160. He's a short guy. There's no business fighting six foot plus dudes who are also world champions, but he was so good that he's unable to do it. So like, I don't think we look down on him taking those challenges. You know, it's like, let's say John Jones went up in weight and he lost. It'd still be like, bro, he put on 20
Starting point is 01:39:41 fucking pounds. Like you're not supposed to, or like, is he losing against Jan Blachowicz? It's like, you're putting on so much fucking weight, but I agree with you about the boxing loss. But even then, I don't think that the fight that he lost, we didn't care about. That's true. Right? And I think it was just badly promoted.
Starting point is 01:39:58 You're right. And I think that, look, you have these YouTube kids that are masters of promotion because that's really what they've learned to do more than anything. So they've applied that to a physical live event. They can't do standup. They can't, well, KSI can do music, but like, this is another version of taking your promotional ability and the content and the relationship you have with your fans and then monetizing it in a live event. And boxing is the highest fucking stakes. You can take all that beef you have,
Starting point is 01:40:27 all that drama, all the things that you're so good at curating because you've been on the YouTube space for years and instead of just doing a vlog about how you hate that guy, let's bang it out. Bang it the fuck out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:38 The oldest. Boxing shouldn't have resisted it or tried to let it go away. They should have absorbed it and been like, oh, these guys know how to promote. We know how to fight. Let's work together and create an awesome thing.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Put them on an undercard of like an actual thing. They can't be controlled. So in boxing, they like to pick up these young kids who don't have any experience. And then they're like, hey, I control you. I'm going to promote. I'm going to take all your money. Also, to your earlier point, there's so many different people fighting for it. Whereas UFC would just be one company.
Starting point is 01:41:03 Yeah. And they did do that. They partnered with Nelk, they partnered with all these people. And WWE does the same thing. Yep. One company. Yep.
Starting point is 01:41:10 100%. Yeah, it's, I mean, the NFL, the NBA, it's one company. You can organize the products, whoever you want. Market it however you want. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:41:17 And then the, and yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody that's fighting within that company helps you win. Yeah. You are associated with the winner no matter what. It's not two promoters.
Starting point is 01:41:29 It's not Bob Arum and Don King going at it and one of their guys has to lose and then that's it. It's just one promoter. So whoever wins, you keep on riding that horse. But I think the specific thing with the boxing is no different than what happened in our industry with stand-up or even with podcasts. It's like a lot of people were listening to radio and it just sucked. It was kind of boring. They were the greats, obviously. You look at The Breakfast Club, you look at Howard Stern, but like for the most part, radio sucked. It was hokey games. It was dumb. And then podcasts come in and you're like, wait, I can listen to this whenever I want. Yeah. And they can say whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:42:05 They can say whatever they want. They can say whatever they want. And there are people who are funnier. They're not restricted by the FDA shit at all. Is it FDA? FCC. FCC. Or the FDA. And the FDA.
Starting point is 01:42:12 They can eat whatever the fuck they want on the podcast. And then with standup, it's like sometimes these old structures that create this like great moat for their protection, the moat makes them lazy. It's like they don't even have to fight. And if you don't have to fight, you get nice and fat. You know, pigs get fat. What is it? Hogs get fat.
Starting point is 01:42:28 They get slaughtered, right? And same thing happened with standup. It's like, there are all these restrictions and the comedy, they thought that they could push the comedy in whatever direction they want because there was no competition. And then all of a sudden we found a way to compete and steamrolled them.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Like how fast Comedy Central just became absolutely obsolete. You're talking about in like a couple of years. The biggest platform on cable television for comedy is completely obsolete within a couple of years. And that's you not curating the product. That's the same thing with boxing. And that's exactly what's going to happen. Is these YouTube guys have made the traditional world champion boxers obsolete. Nobody knew Canelo fought. We're talking about KSI. Nobody
Starting point is 01:43:13 knows what the fuck is happening in, or nobody knew Roley got a belt this weekend. I knew, but like I'm a boxing fan. Everybody knows Jake Paul is fighting Nate Diaz. Yeah. What's the dude, uh, Devin Haney. Devin Haney is going to fight Loma Chanko. a boxing fan, everybody knows Jake Paul is fighting Nate Diaz. What's the dude, Devin Haney? Devin Haney is going to fight Lomachenko. And I think in like a week. That should be the biggest fight in boxing. Haney is so good. I didn't even realize how good he was.
Starting point is 01:43:37 And I found out about him from a podcast. Who'd you watch him on? I think he was talking about Bradley Martin. And I'm watching it and I was like, oh, this guy's really funny. I wonder if he's good at boxing. And I looked at him and I was like, oh, yeah. Some really funny. I wonder if he's good at boxing. And I looked at him and I was like, oh, yeah. Some say he's pound for pound and he's going to fight the other guy that some say is pound for pound. This should be the biggest fight in boxing.
Starting point is 01:43:51 I had no idea. I don't even know who this guy is. Dude, he's amazing. And that's the problem. The problem is they thought the belts were the promotion. And it existed when there was no competition. Having a belt, they thought people really cared about that. We don't really care about belts. We care about beefs. We don't need a belt to be involved. We want to see a beef get settled. And I think the UFC figured that out immediately. They're like, you know what? People
Starting point is 01:44:13 really love Cowboy Cerrone and they would rather watch him fight somebody that's more on his level than watch him just get brutalized by a Conor McGregor. Yeah. Unless you love Conor, and then obviously you want to see Conor get victories. But there's a way to match fighters so that it's entertaining. Speaking of which, I was actually curious what you thought. We've talked before about fighting people
Starting point is 01:44:35 in different weight classes, and I think all of us on the pod were like, oh, at Featherweight, we could fuck up even a really good guy. Not me. You were on. You could fuck somebody up. Now, being in there with Sean.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Yeah. Granted, he was at like 145 or 115 maybe when we were hanging with him. Yeah. Did that change your perspective at all as far as like a brawl? His quickness, his fight IQ. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he could do what he wants. Yeah. Even though he's so much lighter.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Yeah, but it's just like, to be honest with you, the legs change everything. I've had a good amount of years of boxing training, but it's once you add legs, the striking distance is so completely unrecognizable. For boxing, you have to be kind
Starting point is 01:45:20 of close to one another. If you really want to land, you have to be kind of close. And because of that, it's exciting and dangerous. And like everything is this adjustment. When kicking is involved, you could be in another room. It feels like, like I asked him to stand where he could kick me. I was like, just stand distance wise where you can kick me versus where you can punch me. You're talking about like two feet away. If he wants to kick me in the head, he's got to be at maybe punching range, but leg? Just to chew up the leg?
Starting point is 01:45:50 Size alone, did it change your perspective on fighting a female fighter? No. There's no female fighter that could beat me up ever. Even with a fire leg kick? No. She's tall. She's a little bit tall. I'm upset you gave it up so quick even if it's a dude, bro.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Come on, son. You got 50, 60 pounds on this motherfucker? Like, stop that. You weren't in there, bro. Stop that. You weren't in there, bro. It's the leg kicks, dude. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Dude, just grab him. You weren't in there, bro. Don't let him go, though. That's it. Do a little horse play. Get him down to the ground. Bro, grab something on the street. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Horses can kick hard, bro. You don't want to get in there. That kicking shit, bro, is... I ain't challenging nobody, but fuck that. I still got him. Okay. This is just a silly thing. Martha Stewart became the oldest woman to get a Sports Illustrated cover at 81 years old.
Starting point is 01:46:41 So, I saw Martha Stewart the other day. I was at Sebastian maniscalco's premiere for his movie which was great it was so much fun robert de niro is an unbelievable actor oh yeah like so funny whenever he wants to be he got a tear out of me at the end bobby d squeezed it out like Like, and he really, yeah. I mean, I put this on Instagram, but I saw Sebastian Maniscalco perform at the restaurant I managed
Starting point is 01:47:12 while I was going to college in Santa Barbara. I didn't know that. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's a cool story. He came up and he did this, he has this great joke, this Ross joke where-
Starting point is 01:47:19 Bruh. Yeah, yeah. Son. Yeah. I saw him, sorry to interrupt, same story, but in like a fucking Trippin' on Tuesday, which at the comedy store was the all black night kind of hood.
Starting point is 01:47:29 He gets on, well-dressed white dude. Audience is dead silent. It's kind of tense because it's like, who's this white dude? And he just does, he goes, okay, I like that. A girl woos and he's like, no, I like that confidence. He does this fucking Ross joke. I mean, unbelievable the reaction he got. I've never seen an audience fall in love with a comic
Starting point is 01:47:45 that hard in my life. Ross the store? Yes. Go look up the joke. You can watch it on YouTube. But, so yeah, he does that
Starting point is 01:47:54 and he just fucking kills and he's just, he's like really good and I remember thinking of, there was a few guys that I saw come up there and I saw Tig Notaro come up. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:48:04 Yeah, Tig actually did fantastic. She like controlled the energy of the room in a way that I've like rarely seen happen in comedy. It was really impressive. And she was very alternative with the comedy, but she really controlled the energy. She had everyone behaving themselves in a restaurant where she was like performing in the window in a corner
Starting point is 01:48:23 with people walking by. It was like a horrible situation potentially, but it was very impressive to watch her control the room. So yeah, we had guys come up and, but I remember him specifically. I was like, wow, this guy's like really fucking good. And then I went and saw a movie that is about his life starring, co-starring Bobby De Niro.
Starting point is 01:48:48 I mean, that is like, it's hard to not root for that one. Like as a comic, you just, it's so exciting to see comics getting movies made about them. Same thing with Bert with the machine. But also to have, if you're an Italian guy, to have king Italian. Who's the biggest Bollywood star? Shah Rukh Khan.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Imagine Shah Rukh Khan is playing your dad or your mom. I'd cry every day. You'd prefer your mom be honored. You know what I mean? Or the biggest, what is her name? The beautiful Hollywood actress. What is it? Bukha Bada Khan.
Starting point is 01:49:24 There's one that has like the light skin eye. Ashwari Rai. Ashwari Rai. Imagine that she's playing your mother in a movie about you guys. It'd be unbelievable. I'm watching this knowing I saw this guy perform in a shitty failing restaurant that was majority my fault that was failing. And like I'm seeing a movie with him and Robert De Niro. And he's holding his own.
Starting point is 01:49:43 He was great. I came up to him. I was like, bro, you can fucking act. Yeah. Like, I was like, you go into these things with low expectations. I'm going to go into
Starting point is 01:49:51 any comic movie I go in low expectations because being a comedian and being a comedic actor are polar opposites. The better you are as a comic, I feel like the worse you start off as an actor.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Comic is try to say something funny. Comedic actor is try to be serious and because your character is detached, it's funny. Comedic actor is try to be serious. And because your character is detached, it's funny. Yeah, in a funny situation. Exactly. Will Ferrell is never trying to be funny, which is why it's so funny.
Starting point is 01:50:12 They're different things. So like, yeah, it was just like this crazy outer body experience. I mean, I saw this guy when I was fucking 23 years old. Like that's, how many years? I'm 39. What is that? 26 years? 16. I can't do math, bro.
Starting point is 01:50:27 I'm a psychology major. So 16 years later, dude. Yeah. Like in the same place where I started comedy the first time like I went up. Yeah. Is there like it was just fucking insane. Did he give you credit for starting his career? I started his career.
Starting point is 01:50:44 No. Also, Ali Wong in Beef. Have you seen Beef? I mean, she's fucking unbelievable. And I wasn't sure, because she's a great comic. I was like, I don't know if she can act. I walk into this movie, I mean, this show, and she's fantastic. Really?
Starting point is 01:50:59 And it's like, it's kind of a dark comedy, if a comedy at all. It's pretty serious. And I forgot she was a comic for so many episodes. She just became this character. And Santino. Santino's always great. I mean, we've seen Santino.
Starting point is 01:51:11 He's incredible. Beef's good. It sucks that it got overshadowed with all that shit. The drama? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because just as a show, it's phenomenal. It's a great show. All right, I got to check it out.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Anyway, so I'm at the premiere. And sitting in front of me is, let's phenomenal. It's a great show. All right, I got to check it out. Anyway, so I'm at the premiere, and sitting in front of me is, let's see, there's like, I'm like three rows, sorry, three rows in front of me is that gay dude who's like Kim Kardashian's friend. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that guy's name? I forget his name.
Starting point is 01:51:39 But like he became famous by being like friends, I think, with the Kardashians early on, and I think his Instagram is like food boss or some shit like that. It doesn't matter, whatever you'd recognize him if you saw him. And he basically is sitting like three rows ahead. Right. And,
Starting point is 01:51:54 um, and popcorn keeps getting hit and getting thrown at him. And he doesn't notice it. And it keeps getting popcorn thrown at him. And it's a pack theater. So it's like the popcorn could also hit other people. It's a nice place too. Yeah, and it's like everybody's dressed up and everything and then just popcorn just keeps getting thrown and fucking hitting this guy in the back of the head and he keeps turning around.
Starting point is 01:52:18 I go to see who's throwing the popcorn and it's 80-year-old Martha Stewart. Holy shit, that's so funny. And also famous dude. that's so funny. And also famous dude. That's so funny. And eventually he finds out why, and then she just dies laughing at him. And then that's it. And then they watch the movie. And I was like, this girl does not give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:52:34 That's the best. Yeah. God bless, dude. God bless. And kind of a piece still. That's what I'm saying. I mean, you see it. Keeping it together.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like an 81-year-old. Let's find the woman's body that they photoshopped this off to. They might be a little airbrushed, but she still looks good, though. She's no more airbrushed than any other Sports Illustrated model. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:52:53 I mean, you saw her in person. She was pretty, very pretty. I didn't see Bod, but she was very pretty. She didn't stand up all the way. Who's throwing the popcorn over there? I mean, it was cool. Yeah. Anywho.
Starting point is 01:53:05 That's the only pick yeah I think so that was the cover they might have other music if you had a cover you got like a spread they probably haven't released it yet
Starting point is 01:53:11 so that's a tease or whatever oh also some fire shit happened I wish Dove wasn't here might not be worth talking about without him but Al told Dove
Starting point is 01:53:20 that he was going to F1 and Dove was like wait how how are you going to F1 oh yeah we talked about this on Patreon alright I'll watch it that he was going to F1 and Dove was like, wait, how? How are you going to F1? Oh, yeah. We talked about this. Oh, you talked about it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:27 All right, I'll watch it. All right, do we have anything fun to leave us on? He's a hotel manager who apparently snuck into a guest room and was sucking
Starting point is 01:53:39 the toes of the guest and then the guest woke up and was like, hey, why are you sucking my toes? Again, I need to see the video. That's y'all in five years. There's just a lot of weird stuff
Starting point is 01:53:47 about this, you know? Slippery slope. Maybe too soon to tell. I need to point something out here and I said it to you guys this weekend, but the surgeries for the transgender surgeries have become absolutely outstanding. Something that, you know, I mean.
Starting point is 01:54:05 This is where you start. Just trust me, just trust me. So, and I did a special long time about this where I spoke about like what would happen. That's all it would take. It would take the transgender surgery just becoming incredible for so many people to be into it. There is one thing they don't have a surgery for.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Feet. It's interesting that you say that. So what will happen most likely in the near future is that everybody will become a foot man if they want to avoid sleeping with a trans woman. So you could say that we're weirdos or you could say we're ahead of the game. It is what it is. Or you could say you're transphobic. Yeah. Well. You could say any of those three Ds. If it's transphobic to not want to sleep with a trans woman, then I'm transphobic. I have a preference.
Starting point is 01:54:54 How dare you? I'm fatphobic. I'm uglyphobic. How dare you? How dare you? Yeah. I'm Indianphobic. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:00 That's not allowed. That about you. My favorite thing about you. Yeah. I don't like to call that a phobia. Yeah. Yeah. No, we mean- I'm not afraid of food I don't like.
Starting point is 01:55:11 I'm just repulsed by it. You're a little afraid of cilantro. No, I'm repulsed by it. Yeah, that's- I am absolutely disgusted by the idea- Transgender people taste like soap to him. Exactly. Putting my-
Starting point is 01:55:24 Now, cilantro can exist. You guys can enjoy cilantro. I'm totally okay with that. Are you going to call me names for that? But the idea of me ingesting cilantro, blech. I had such a good laugh. When we were in Miami, we had one of our family dinners at the sushi place. And one of the rolls we ordered was like a vegetable roll, and it was like filled with so much cilantro.
Starting point is 01:55:44 And like I told my shorty, I was like, watch, watch, watch. I told you, I was like, yo, you have to try this one. It's so fucking phenomenal. Like I sold it up and he took the whole thing. Son. Oh, I just, it just popped in my head this past weekend.
Starting point is 01:56:00 I just started dying laughing. It was so good. You remember that too, right? No, I don't remember it, but I remember how horrible cilantro is, so I can imagine that happening. It was fucking cool. It was absolutely...
Starting point is 01:56:13 Damn, dude. You should have said dude, B-Bro. That's like setting your boy up with a trans woman and being like, bro, this girl really feeling you, bro. Yeah. I'm sure dudes have done that. I'm sure dudes have done that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:23 There's a marketplace for it in a country where it's the number one thing to do. You know what's weird is Thailand, I was talking to this Thai chick, and I think, and she was just like, it's interesting. It is an incredibly conservative country,
Starting point is 01:56:38 but when it comes to sex and sexuality, there is almost zero pushback. She was like, yeah, I was a lesbian for years. Now I'm married to a man. What religion is Thailand? Like Buddhist? Buddhist? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:53 But she was like, yeah, very conservative. But when it comes to that, just being a girl and being a lesbian, no big deal. I guess being a kid, being gay. I wonder if you could rebound from the ladyboy shit. Can that be like a phase? You know what I mean? It depends how far you go. But isn't that wild?
Starting point is 01:57:08 Like what a crazy. And even, I mean, this is less of an example, but Tim DeLaGhetto was on Wildin' Out with me. I remember asking him, he made a lot of sex jokes. I was like, is that cool in your house? He's like, yeah, my parents, my whole family, we make sex jokes all the time. Oh, he's Thai. Yeah, he's Thai. Yeah, Tim Chantarangsu, I think is his full name, his Thai name.
Starting point is 01:57:24 But he was just like, yeah, it's just a thing we all do. And it's interesting because it is so much like India when I go there in so many ways, but then sexually, they're so much more free. The Abrahamic religion's got a stronghold on sexual purity. I think that's what it is. As soon as you get out of that, I guess India is like— Hinduism, very—I mean, the family's very—we're like, we don't talk about it. We don't deal with it.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Yeah, I guess Buddhism—I wonder if in like Buddhist ideology, they have like a strong sexual thing. But what's weird is that it's, Buddhists is like remove desire and sex culture is pure desire. It's true. Or have we been taught that it's desire? Have you been taught that it's something
Starting point is 01:57:58 that you should lust for? When really it's just the natural way. It's like food. It's like anything. I mean, flying to Thailand to bang a 15 yearyear-old ladyboy seems like desire to me. Yeah. It's imprinted in them, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Tom Lissetta with a knowing laugh. I know that's right. Okay. Is this the toe sucker? Yeah, this is the toe sucker, dude. David Patrick Neal. He snuck in. Apparently, he was casing the joint the day before because he was trying to like change out the TV or
Starting point is 01:58:25 Help the guests with the TV okay, and then the guy was woke up with him in his room And he said oh, I thought I smoked Brandon reportedly scream when he found out Neal sucking on his toes Definitely notice if a dude's foot is nice or not. That's crazy. But sucking on a toe is crazy. Also, he's doing the trans thing in reverse. Yeah. He's looking at a girl's foot being like.
Starting point is 01:58:50 This guy is twisted, dog. Damn. Lock him up, yo. This is a fucking pervert. You know what's funny? That man let him suck his toes, yo. Ain't no way I'm going to wake up mid-suck. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:59:03 I'm going to hear somebody in my fucking room, and I'm going to wake up mid-suck. Do you know what I mean? I'm going to hear somebody in my fucking room, and I'm going to feel someone sucking my toes. There's no way you wake up three minutes into a toe suck. He was getting his toe sucked. He liked it. He thought that that dude was snitch, and he was like, oh, he's the gay one. 100%.
Starting point is 01:59:17 This guy is like fucking Grandpa Simpson, bro. This is crazy. You let this man suck your toes. Maybe he's having a dream. Maybe he's getting his toes sucked and thought it was just a dream he was having. Maybe someone else was sucking his toes in the dream
Starting point is 01:59:27 and then he woke up and realized it was... Yeah, we got to talk to this Brennan guy. I think he was Rick Moran. According to the science and y'all logic, he's the most straight
Starting point is 01:59:34 because y'all are ahead of your time by adoring feet. He's a gay man and he could have went for a dick, an asshole, a mouth.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Motherfucker went toes first. You got to see the toes, though. That's the straightest thing about it, bro. We got to see the toes. What is this guy's name, Brennan? Do we have him on Instagram? I feel like butthole is more straight than toes for a dude. No, but I'm saying—
Starting point is 01:59:55 You can't look at two buttholes and know what's what. I can look at feet and know what gender is what. No, but he's a gay man. That's a really good point. That's a good point. Thank you. He's a gay man, and's a really good point. That's a good point. Thank you, though. He's a gay man. And he saw this.
Starting point is 02:00:07 15 love. Peter Brennan. Yeah. I'm telling you. That's super straight. No way Peter Brennan got nice feet. There's no way he's letting his name be put out there. Don't let your name be put out there. If you're sucking my toes, I'm dying with that information.
Starting point is 02:00:19 That's John Doe. It should be John Doe. I'm going to die with that information. You cannot torture me to get that out. Are you crazy? That's a good point. You're getting your toes sucked, and you're just going to be like, yeah, I'm pressed to die with that information. You could not torture me to get that out. Are you crazy? That's a good point. You're getting your toes sucked and you're just going to be like,
Starting point is 02:00:27 yeah, I'm pressed charges. Peter Brennan might be a little clumped trout. What is that? If you're getting your toes sucked, you got to live and let live. That's crazy. I bet you got to OnlyFans. Keep going down a little bit.
Starting point is 02:00:36 I need to read this story a little bit. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, the lawsuit alleges that Neil cloned the key to Brennan's room, entered the room during the early morning hours without knocking or announcing himself. He screamed when he found Neil sucking on his toes, which is kind of rude to put in the article.
Starting point is 02:00:49 The fact that he was like, oh! When he found Neil sucking on his toes, Amelia recognized him as one of the two hotel staff members who had been in the room the previous day to help with the TV. Following the incident, Neil told the officers that he entered his room because he smelled smoke, wanted to check on him for safety. Neil did not report a smoke smell to hotel security, and no one else smelled any smoke, according to police.
Starting point is 02:01:06 That's funny. All of my life you just have a sense of security and a sense of peace, right? It's not like you're camping. You have to keep one eye open, Brendan told the local outlet. You have that security that's yours and when you close your eyes you feel like you're safe and you're protected. Was he sleeping above the blankets? Like,
Starting point is 02:01:21 I don't, or was it like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory where like the toes Are coming out Might have been a Buddy the Elf situation Sometimes I do Climate control Where it's just like
Starting point is 02:01:30 You kind of stick a foot out But I don't sleep toes up This guy's weird This Peter Brennan dude Is weird You sleep on your belly bro? Yeah No no
Starting point is 02:01:39 You don't sleep toes up So that means Your toes are down So your belly Could be side Could be side My belly's funny So he goes So this guy's supposedly Sleep toes up. So that means your toes are down, so your belly... Side, side, side. I go side. My belly is funny.
Starting point is 02:01:52 So this guy's supposedly just sleeping like this, like a vampire. Wicked witch of the west. Yeah, like this Peter Brennan dude is... I don't know if I'd trust this, bro. I think they might have had a little situation and he got caught by someone else. Is there a third party? I don't know. I got it. It was the Hilton Hotel in downtown Nashville. might have had a little situation and he got caught by someone else. Is there a third party? I don't know. I got to... It was the Hilton Hotel in downtown Nashville. That's terrible press, bro.
Starting point is 02:02:11 You staying at a four-star hotel that's happening? Or great press or something. Which is funny. His attorney was like, you know, the Hilton hired this person. They have to do better background checks. I'm like, what background check? Is Peter Brennan gay? He might be gay on the low. If he's gay, then this shit is there and it's together. 100%.
Starting point is 02:02:28 He gonna sue the Hilton? It's a setup. 100%. He might be secret gay. Secret gay. 100%. How much did Playmaker get from the Marriott? He sued for 100 million.
Starting point is 02:02:39 I don't know how much he got. Who? We're talking conspiracy corner. Irvin sued because they made up some shit that he said to a lady, et cetera. Oh, that's what's up. So they want a crazy lawsuit, so maybe they're just trying to run this up right here. That's weird. Nobody sleeps like this.
Starting point is 02:02:55 Your toes are underneath the blankets. Also, hotel blankets specifically, the most tucked in under the desk. Yeah, that's true. Except I always untuck them. I used to, but that's too much work. I can't be doing all this work And then you're like this the whole night Nah but still Toes out up weird
Starting point is 02:03:12 Toes are not up If it's out it could be to the side So you didn't hear this guy come in You didn't feel him lift the covers You only noticed midway through the suck Nah bro this is a setup Either you were super drunk and knocked out unconsciously.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Yeah, I never got your dick sucked. In your sleep? Alex. I'm just saying, I'm asking maybe... By the hotel desk clerk? No, no, no, no. By like whatever.
Starting point is 02:03:39 No, Alex, we didn't get our dick sucked by the hotel desk clerk. No. While you're sleeping, I'm just curious. No. Not while we're sleeping.
Starting point is 02:03:47 You're in that gray area. You got your dick sucked while you're sleeping? Yeah, it was a fantasy button, and it was all right. So now you don't know if one of your boys sucked your dick while you're sleeping. No. No, no, no, no. This is actually a good point. You cannot confidently say you didn't get your dick sucked when you came by your friends.
Starting point is 02:04:03 I woke up. Oh, now you woke up. Yeah. So now you wake up. I'm trying. You started with, y'all never got your dick sucked when you were a kid by your friends. I woke up. Oh, now you woke up. Yeah. So now you wake up. I'm trying. You started with, y'all never got your dick sucked while you were sleeping, but now you're waking up to the dick suck. Okay. So I asked, I was like, hey, I would like to be woken up to my dick getting sucked.
Starting point is 02:04:16 So it's like, you know how sometimes you get hard while you're sleeping. Yeah, yeah. You got the wake up blow job, but that's different. This is not that. Yes, it was this. He was just hoping that when he woke up, he was going to like it. And the guy woke up and didn't like it. That's what he was hoping.
Starting point is 02:04:29 That's a brave request if you don't know. I know I'm going to get in the head, sleep, or awake. If he sucked his dick, the guy probably would have liked it. He probably picked up on some signals, like cross signals. He's like, oh, you know, I'm changing the TV. Ah, this guy's kind of flirting with me. Maybe he wakes up to me sucking on his toes. He's going to be like, all right, let cross signals. He's like, oh, you know, I'm changing the TV. Ah, this guy's kind of flirting with me.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Maybe he wakes up to me sucking on his toes. He's going to be like, all right, let's go. Oh, I 100% think that they were flirting. They had a little kind of understanding. 100%. Yeah, but then if the guy getting his toes sucked fucking called the cops on him, then apparently... Yeah, I think that they had a little flirtation, a little something going on, and I think
Starting point is 02:05:01 it was on some gay shit where it's just like, yo, it's on site. Like, gay sex is on site. Yeah, so that's why you call it gay beef. It's like Bloods and Crips, right? It's just like, oh, we got the ops.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Pound them. You know what I mean? And I think what happened was they thought it was on site and then the dude was like, yo, not at five in the morning, son.
Starting point is 02:05:20 I need my sleep. You can't be sucking my toes and shit. Yeah, that's all this is. Gay problems. Maybe he was just my toes and shit. Yeah, that's all this is. Gay problems. Maybe he was just a bad toe sucker. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, if he went for pinky toe first.
Starting point is 02:05:32 Oh, come on, dude. Apparently he suffered post-traumatic stress disorder and struggles to get sleep in the wake of his alleged toe sucking incident. I mean, if that is all true, I would definitely have PTSD. But what does that even look like? Son, how are you going to fall asleep? Is somebody going to suck my fucking toes in my sleep? Is that what happened to you?
Starting point is 02:05:49 Maybe I repressed it, yo! You guys are repressed. Toe-sucking madness. Jesus. You got to do hypnotherapy. That shit definitely didn't happen. I see his feet. Who the fuck would get near nothing?
Starting point is 02:06:04 He got shit feet, I feel like. I think part of the reason I'm his feet. Who the fuck would get near nothing? He got shit feet, I feel like. I think part of the reason I'm into feet is because mine are ugly. Probably the same for you. Don't bring me into your goofy ass fucking feet.
Starting point is 02:06:15 No way. You don't got good feet. I got better feet than you. Mine look like feet. What do his look like? He got monkey hands, bro. 100%, dude. He could peel a mango. That's fair, but that's people that have feet.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Dude, this guy's feet are fucking insane. I've never seen- Don't say that's fair, stop it. Fight back. No, no, no, no, no. Shut up, Al. You got the feet. You got the gayest looking feet, for sure.
Starting point is 02:06:35 Wait, why do you got- I do. Yeah, they're sexy. You have like an ugly woman's feet. Yeah, you have grandmama's feet. I got the best looking feet here. I'll take that. You got ugly fat bitch feet.
Starting point is 02:06:45 You got flat ass feet. You got a bitch that's cocky, but she's just a fat girl. And she gets her toes done like the rest of her age. This is weird for you because you like feet and you checking out my feet? That's weird, bro. Mark got Greek statue feet. I know everybody's feet.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Mark got better feet than me. Greek statue. He said that Mark got better feet than me. Come on, baby. You have objectively scuba diving feet. No arch, bro. Your feet look ugly. Oh, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 02:07:11 This is the most disrespectful shit you've ever said on the podcast ever. I don't think you got balance. You take better care of them. They're more manicured. They look beautiful. But the structure is... Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 02:07:22 They don't look good. They're just taken care of. You got phlegm, Steve. We gotta have a fetal. Because they're not ugly, but they're not cute. They're just well taken care of. Are you trying to get the dogs out right now? No, no, no. No, Mark's got the group stuff. Let's get the dogs out. Let's get the dogs out.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Gas tank on him. Wipe him down. Let's go, baby. I haven't got them done in a while. He's a little worried. He hasn't got them done. Wait, you're not gonna bust them out? No, no, no. I got a crazy amount of growth and shit. Where my dog's at? I don't know. I'll come back.
Starting point is 02:07:48 Where my dog's at? I'll see you Wednesday. What's up? What's up? You having a dog off, man? What's up? Let's have a dog off, dude. We got to weigh in.
Starting point is 02:07:56 Make sure we both in the same. Nathan's international, baby. Let's go. I think Mark might have the best feet. I don't even want to see Miles' feet. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't do that. Yeah, I don't want to see your feet. No, don't do that. I got good feet. I thought I'd been one in the foot cup. No don't even want to see Miles' feet. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't do that. I don't want to see your feet.
Starting point is 02:08:05 I don't do that. I got good feet. I thought I'd been one in the foot. Nah. They're manicured. They're well done. Miles said you got good feet? They're well done.
Starting point is 02:08:11 Dude, Dove's feet are the worst, dude. Dove's nails, about three to four of Dove's nails on each feet look like they should be hanging from a cave. Like just stalagmite toenails, bro. It is absolutely fucking repulsive. Remember when he took his shoe off and a bat flew out? Do you remember that? I do. Do you remember?
Starting point is 02:08:28 I do remember. There was a bat sleeping on his little toenail. And then his feet are so corroded that what he does is paints the nails that are already green. Oh, that's rough. No, he has to paint them the same color as his skin so you kind of don't notice it. That's hilarious. So he has three or four nails that are painted like this, like, what is he like?
Starting point is 02:08:50 I don't know, he's killing you right now. Kind of whatever, I don't know, Moroccan tan or whatever. Yeah, it's bad. It's really bad. He's such like an elegant manicured man. Yeah, I know. So it doesn't look like it would make sense. And there's nothing that he's done in his life
Starting point is 02:09:03 that would suggest that he's put his feet through hard work. You know, he doesn't do cardio. It's not like that. It is just, he was born. Yeah, he has the nicest hands in the world. The softest, most beautiful nails and everything like that. But something about, God forbid, he actually did like some sort of like manual labor
Starting point is 02:09:17 in his life. Because from just eating pasta, four of his toes have almost fallen off. Like, it's kind of crazy. That's funny. I'm still dying to see Shifty's nail. Because you talk about it, and I've never seen it. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:09:37 Oh, you've seen it? Yeah, he's working through something right now. That's crazy. My dad's are the worst. My dad's nails are the worst. Oh, we've seen that. We're going to have to put them under to cut them. It's so painful for him that he can't get them cut,
Starting point is 02:09:48 and they're just growing like curling. Oh. So he'll probably have to go under. And nobody wants to be the one to suggest it. God forbid anything happens. I know. You know what I mean? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:58 But it's so long, and it's so painful. Every time he goes in, they try to cut one. He's like, no, don't do it. Oh, my goodness. They can't do like a local anesthetic? Really? I don't know why. Damn. Maybe it's just so like, what would you have to do? You'd have to roll them home afterwards because you
Starting point is 02:10:14 put the whole foot? Yeah, I guess. I don't know, but he's like, yeah, it's like excruciating pain. Oh, that sucks. Yeah. And they're gnarly looking. When is that happening? We've been trying to do it for fucking years. Oh, it's not scheduled. I thought this was like something scheduled. happening? We've been trying to do it for fucking years. Oh, it's not scheduled. I thought this was like something scheduled.
Starting point is 02:10:27 Oh, when we're going to do the anesthetic. I mean, that's the only recourse we have now. It will be satisfying, though. We have to do it. Getting the perfect manicure. It's going to be satisfying.
Starting point is 02:10:35 His feet are going to look lovely after. They got to make a TikTok out of that. Don't have him in no hotel rooms. Oh, God. Oh, God. Now Hilton's downtown for this man. Yeah. His feet are suck-proof.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Maybe that's how you got to do it while he's sleeping. Yeah, you just go in there. Get this guy to be a little gerbil. Just nibble him off. Yeah, see, this guy can suck him soft. You know what I mean? Just get a little moisture on him. Yeah, be like, hey.
Starting point is 02:10:56 Like, when you get out of the shower, is the best time to clip your nails? Yeah, that's right. That for his tongue. It's either five years of prison or we have an amazing punishment. The judge is like, you want to hear it? That's funny. All right, before we get out of here, thank God. It looks like Jamie Foxx is
Starting point is 02:11:11 doing all right. Oh, thank God. Do not believe everything you hear on the internet. It looks like Jamie Foxx is doing all right. His daughter posted that he was at home recovering, even played some pickleball. So it looks like he's going to be back. That was scary. I think there was a lot of blogs posting that it looked like it was turning for the worst. People were praying for the worst is what they said. Yeah, that was crazy. I don't know. Something about that situation just seems a little off.
Starting point is 02:11:34 Really? Yeah. What do you think it is? I don't know, because they were like, the fact that TMZ was jumping out the window and saying that he was bad, TMZ usually doesn't get their shit wrong unless they have, like, credible evidence. Fuck. And I was like, that's weird.
Starting point is 02:11:51 The fact that he's been home for weeks, but then they're reporting that he's bad. And then people very close to him, like friends of him, are saying, please pray for him. It's not looking good or whatever. And then his daughter says, no, he's actually been home playing pickleball, like, what? That is an interesting interesting, though.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Maybe he surprisingly got better, and then they were just reacting like, oh, this is an overreaction. Like, maybe he was bad, but then miraculously got better. And then they're just trying to point out the media just being like, yo, stop reporting bullshit. Even if it wasn't completely bullshit. I don't know. But that is a little confusing. And TMZ usually does pay top dollar for that information. And then they check and fact check.
Starting point is 02:12:29 They double check, triple check. So that is weird. And also, I mean, we're all so excited if it's true. I'm hoping it's true. But there's no pictures of him, video of him. Yeah, we need to see it. Maybe they're just letting him recover. But that is.
Starting point is 02:12:40 What does TMZ stand for? I don't know. What's your guess? I don't know. 30 Mile Zone. Oh? 30 Mile Zone. 30 Mile Zone. Is that like the area of like urban LA or some shit? Yeah, it's boring.
Starting point is 02:12:53 I won't talk about it. Thank you, Caseta. Thank you, Caseta. Appreciate you, my dude. And then lastly, I mean, maybe this is more Brilliant Idiots Convo, but Kanye, there's a lot to be made of this. Oh, this is a Brilliant Idiots convo for sure. But Charlamagne said it on flagrant.
Starting point is 02:13:14 Yeah. So he's like, yo, I'll blow Kanye if he gets back into business with Adidas. Now, there is a caveat here that Charlamagne will bring up. There is a caveat here that Charlemagne will bring up. I still think that, I don't know if he's going to have to blow them, but he's going to have to at least acknowledge that he didn't say that they would sell the rest of the inventory. They're not going back. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:37 They said they severed ties with him. And now they are paying him out for the rest of the inventory. But as Charlemagne did say that, though. He said, because I think someone said they would restock the inventory. He said, that's not getting back with them. I'm pretty sure on the episode. He said that on this?
Starting point is 02:13:50 I'm pretty sure on the episode. I run that back. Somebody said something. Somebody said, like, they're going to resell the inventory. And he was like, that's not getting back with them. That's not getting.
Starting point is 02:13:58 He's talking about getting back and making new shoes. Yes. Yes. As his attorney, as his legal team. Yeah. We got to run back to tape
Starting point is 02:14:06 because I don't think he said that. He might not have to fully suck dick, but... Yeah, you gotta suck a toe. You gotta suck a pinky toe or something. Bro, it's funny. Kanye really built like his
Starting point is 02:14:22 new wife is like Kim and Amber Rose put together. Like it's crazy. He like mashed them and she's a really beautiful woman. Have you seen pictures of her? I saw pictures of her. Oh my. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:37 And you see the new fashion trend he's pushing? Yeah. With the slippers. With the slippers, but also these. He's wearing. Someone said, why is he wearing Muay Thai shin guards?
Starting point is 02:14:45 Yeah, he was. They're literally Muay Thai shin guards. They're like from the brand. And this is like a part of his... But he just copy wrote these slippers. There's another one of him walking in them. Which actually, I mean... It's like the Yeezy sock or whatever.
Starting point is 02:14:57 Yeah, is that... I think that's what like the patent is. Yeah, it reminds me of foot soldiers. Oh. What is it? Ninja Turtles. Oh, yeah. But look at her. Yeah, she's beautiful. God damn, bro. It reminds me of foot soldiers. What is it? Ninja Turtles. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:06 But look at her. Yeah, she's beautiful. God damn, bro. I mean, God damn. She seems awesome. I don't know if this is true, but he's petty as fuck if it is. His new Yeezy store is like three doors down from an Adidas store right on Melrose. It's hilarious. Get out of here. Hilarious.
Starting point is 02:15:27 Get out of here. That's hilarious. He's on some Trump shit in terms of like demanding attention. Getting the people going. They're similar people. He was not wrong. That's the same shorty? Yeah. I think so. She died of hair.
Starting point is 02:15:43 It's crazy. You can feel the energy shifting a little bit. I think that if he puts out stuff, people will buy it. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. It's not that crazy.
Starting point is 02:15:54 You have a Jewish best friend. A lot of people don't. You say sorry. No, it's not only about the Jewish thing. It's like shouting out Hitler. It's like Hitler killed Americans too, bro. He went to war. There's a lot of motherfuckers who shed blood over that. It ain't just a Jew
Starting point is 02:16:06 thing. Like, a lot of people's great grandparents. He killed people with special needs. You know what I mean? He killed, like, if you were gonna be... Yeah, I wasn't caring about them at all, but that's a good thing. If you're like, you know, a lot of these people, you might not care about one group of people. My mom always brings up, he killed Catholics. There's a lot of Catholic priests that got killed.
Starting point is 02:16:22 That's facts. They probably earned that shit, to be honest with you. I think we give him a little bit of grace because we can identify he was having a mental break. I feel like, come on. I hope you're right. That wasn't a sane person. I think just if you make good music. Eddie Murphy had a bit about this.
Starting point is 02:16:39 If you make good music, get away with everything. Yeah. Yeah. But no, but I'm saying, because I think if a sane person said the things he said, oh, they're done forever. I think we can identify like, yo,
Starting point is 02:16:48 this guy's clearly. I think that's our excuse for ourself. Son, I want to like the music, man. You know what I mean? I mean,
Starting point is 02:16:56 blue square, Jeff. What's up? No, I think that's. Perfect timing. Yeah, he sensed it.
Starting point is 02:17:01 I think that that's. He wants to like it too. What? No, no, no. I don't start this nonsense. We'll get to it in a second, but I think that we have that excuse so that we can keep doing something.
Starting point is 02:17:13 So not we personally, but I think he's a goofy, but if you like Kanye, you want to keep supporting him. You want to buy his shit. So you go, oh, that horrible stuff that he said, that was just when he was crazy.
Starting point is 02:17:25 And that's your justification. That allows you to sleep at night basically supporting this dude that, you know, said some super foul things and tried to promote super foul things. Yeah, that was fucked up. You know? But the slippers look fire.
Starting point is 02:17:39 I ain't gonna lie, bro. Yeah. And the girl looks fire. He knows what you need. You just need a little arm candy. Do you think it's calculated? He's like,'s like people like me more when i have a girl they like relationships like let me just get in one with a fine chick who looks good at my shit i think you give him a lot of credit with the calculations i think he's to alex's point
Starting point is 02:17:55 got mental illness and he's just going and it works out his intuition is good and so and that's why it's succeeding maybe yeah and i wonder if he can't even tell the difference i wonder if he's like yeah i wonder if he's like yeah I feel better when I'm in this relationship. And he doesn't realize that he's getting more attention because of it. He's just naturally getting a math. And we think it's calculating, but he's like, no, I see numbers. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:16 Yeah. So it's interesting. It is very interesting. Who big numbers like that? Yeah. Those are tens. Yeah. Apparently they're married.
Starting point is 02:18:23 That's his wife. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's like legally married, but they had like a ceremony or something. Yeah. Wild. yeah those are tens yeah apparently they're married that's his wife yeah yeah I don't know if it's like legally married but they had like a ceremony or something yeah wild
Starting point is 02:18:29 so he's getting after it alright guys listen that's another episode of Flagrant we will see you on the Patreon this Friday join that ass okay
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