Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Jo Koy's Mom is WHITE!

Episode Date: September 15, 2022

00:00 - Jo Koy and Fluffy sells the most tickets 01:58 - Netflix didn’t want Jo Koy either - “Too specific” 10:27 - Jo was the first comic Akaash ever saw in LA 16:10 - Jo Koy sells TICKETS - f*...** your algorithm 18:31 - Jo is single now 24:36 - Jo going to perform in a volcano 31:15 “Live at the Los Angeles Forum” is his best one 33:10 - Everyone’s trajectory - talent is rewarded 37:09 - Matteo Lane and love for other comics 47:42 - If not stand-up then it would be directing 58:56 - Andrew is Filipino 01:03:34 - Jo’s motorcycle accident 01:10:04 - Jo is a hustler - Comic View, Showtime and Def Jam 01:33:00 - Jo reps LA, comedy start in Las Vegas 01:40:06 - Jo might have quit Comedy in 2015 01:41:40 - “You’re the only one that’s gonna sell yourself” 01:43:11 - Steven Spielberg is a massive fan 01:46:00 - What our mothers went through for us to be here 01:58:50 - Jo Koy’s impact 02:04:19 - Immigrants can only do certain jobs 02:13:49 - Performing in the Philippines

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm not doing a Filipino accent. I'm doing the best impersonation of my mother. But the weird thing is that, like, your mother's the white one. I don't know if you know this, but my mom is a white woman from Little Manila in Queens. Yes. Yes. I know this. We're here, flagrant, with, honestly, I don't know if there's anybody on the planet that
Starting point is 00:00:22 sells as many tickets as you. It's like you and Fluffy, right? You and Fluffy, yeah. Is there anybody else? I don't know, man. Minister Farrakhan, maybe? You, Fluffy, Minister Farrakhan are the only people that can do
Starting point is 00:00:38 stadiums full of comedy, right? I don't even know. I mean, there's Kevin, you know. Oh, Kev, that's true. I mean, there's Kevin, you know. Oh, Kev. That's true. That's true. But it's crazy what's happening. I can't even explain what's going on right now.
Starting point is 00:00:50 But it's also weird because with Kev, he's also like this movie superstar. Yeah. And with you. I'm just at Nordstrom Rack. You're at Nordstrom Rack. Yeah, yeah. She was at Nordstrom Rack and I'm with a ticket. Yeah, we know.
Starting point is 00:01:02 You're Joseph. Yeah, I'm Joseph. You're Joseph. I'm Joseph. Yeah, man. So it's this weird thing where it's like you. Yeah, we know you're Joseph. Yeah, I'm Joseph. You're Joseph. I'm Joseph. Yeah, man. So it's this weird thing where it's like you're a boy, but you're also this like you go to Hawaii and then the state shuts down. Yeah. Like that's what BJ Penn needed.
Starting point is 00:01:13 He needed you to say you want BJ Penn for governor. Oh, that would have been dope. Why didn't you do that? You know what? You should have asked. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I'm joking. By the way, I'm joking, BJ. You've got to tell BJ when you're joking. I get it, brother. I get it. I get it. I get it now, brother. Talk story.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, yeah. Talk story. Who supports BJ Penn for governor? Who doesn't? Who doesn't? Who doesn't openly is a better question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Behind closed doors, there might be some people that don't.
Starting point is 00:01:45 But in front of them, I think the right thing to do. Yeah, you should always say I support BJ Penn. Always. You still haven't said who this guy is. I still don't know him. Oh, it's Joseph Coy. All right, Joseph! Joseph!
Starting point is 00:01:55 Joseph! Okay. Thank you. You want to start the podcast by bashing Netflix. No. Yeah, that was a weird thing. Why is God against that? Well, I mean, yeah, the new Netflix special
Starting point is 00:02:06 is about to drop. But no, what we were talking about... Oh, sorry, sorry. You want to promote the new special. No, no, no. I love what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:02:13 They don't mind talking about it. But you were saying something about how they weren't fucking with you or something like that. Yeah, they weren't fucking with a lot of us.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Right, right. But then you were like, yo, you need to suck this dick. Okay, that's... I don't think that's... And is when i get camp i do the hashtag i came in here i go i was on my story i was like about to go with andrew schultz hashtag and i left it blank and i i decided i'll fill the blank when i leave but i got the doll. Yeah, I know. Hashtag, it's been fun. Yeah. Retired now.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Okay. No, no. Tell this story. No, it's a great story. Like, they just didn't want to, they didn't want to invest in the special. Yeah. So when I found out
Starting point is 00:02:55 that they were doing originals instead of just leasing or whatever it is that they do. Right, now they're leasing. Licensing and whatever. So whatever they were doing. A little bit, you know. Yeah, but back then, like 2016, they were doing. Yeah, but back
Starting point is 00:03:06 then, like 2016, they were just getting stuff from Comedy Central and posting it on their platform. And then when they said they were doing original content, I was like, well, this hour is hot. You gotta see my hour, man. And they wouldn't even look. I was like, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:03:22 And Schultz, I was crushing, man. I was putting, wait, what? And Schultz, I was crushing, man. Yeah. Like, I was putting up numbers, man. Like, every improv, I was doing like 20 shows in a row. Like, anywhere in the country. It was just like, I can go to Chicago, do three weeks of straight improvs, and then go to— Fuck.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And then go to—I can do three. I can do La Brea. I can do Brea, Ontario, Irvine within the same month and do 21 shows, 24 shows, like 20 shows all in the same month. But yet they didn't want to look. People don't really understand. And they would have like this, they would have like an excuse, but I didn't understand. I was like, wait, what is your excuse?
Starting point is 00:04:00 They wouldn't say it directly, but they were just, I think I understood. What was it? I don't want to say. Say that shit. Well, the people aren't there anymore. But I think, you know. So now you can definitely say it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Because the new crew there is amazing. They're wonderful. But like, you know, the whole. I was thinking that one a lot. Wonderful. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. For you.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah, yeah. I got someone to pay me some money. No, but I didn't understand why. And then we were just like, all right, screw it. Like, we offered eight times. Dude, there was this one time where I said, I will fly you to San Francisco. Because it was a huge show.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It was a huge show. I was doing like 20 shows at the Cobb's Comedy Club. I was like, I will fly you guys in on a private, I'm not trying to even brag. Like honestly, I go, I will fly you guys in on a private jet. Right after work, just come to San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I'll get a driver to drive you and then I'll drive you back to the jet and you'll be in bed tonight. And they still turned it down. Like I was trying so hard to get them to come. And this is before Netflix was like the behemoth, everything, everything. This is when they were saying that they were going to get like all these comebacks. Like Chris is going to write a new special and Dave's coming back.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And everyone's coming back, you know, this year. This is while we still called specials HBO specials. Yes, yes. Right? Yes. And then so I wanted to be in that roster. I was like, I deserve specials HBO specials. Yes, yes. Right. So that, yes. And then, so I wanted to be in that roster. Yeah. I was like, I deserve to be in that roster. Fuck yeah. So then, and then they turned down. I was like, what? And then all of a sudden they gave a call and they were like, yeah, you know, we're just going to go ahead and pass. And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Before even seeing it. Didn't even see it. Like, you didn't even see it. Like, you didn't even send anybody in. What do you think it was? I don't know, man. What do you just think? You might have some ideas. Let's just say it was too specific. And to me, specific is just a very fancy word for we're racist. A very fancy word for we're racist.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Whoever's in at that time or whoever's in that position. Because to me, I'm like, what does that mean, specific? I have a specific story. What are you saying? I have a specific voice. I'm American. I live in America. And my mother's American.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And she lives in America. In fact, she's lived here longer than all of us in here. So she's really American. She has an accent, but so does Jeff Foxworthy. So what is specific? I don't get it. Other than we don't want to hear your mom's voice on TV. This is what I always say. Whenever I hear someone say something really sly or, you know, like, oh, he's doing that thing about his mom again.
Starting point is 00:06:53 It's like, okay, well, my mom's been living here since 1969. She works her ass off, pays taxes. She goes home and watches TV. And I always talk about there's a lot of nurses in Filipinos, in the Filipino community. I have a lot of nurses in my family. Yeah. And they go to work at a hospital 14 hours a day. And then when they come home, they turn on the TV and they watch a TV show about a hospital.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And not one Filipino nurse is on that show. Oh. That's very odd. Then you go watch a movie and you see a hospital scene. Just an emergency room scene. Let's just say that. We're not even one Filipino nurse is running across the hallway. And to me, how do you think that person feels other than invisible? You don't think she feels the hospital is more safe.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah. But no, that's funny. But how invisible do you think she feels? To live in this country and to feel like, oh, so then not only do you not want to hear my voice, but on TV, I don't even fucking exist. So thank you. But I've been here for 59 years. So thank you for that. Oh, and my son's going to do one story about me and you don't want to hear it because it's too specific.
Starting point is 00:08:03 So I'm the only voice So I'm the only voice. I'm the only voice. And like when people go, oh, he's just doing that Filipino accent. Motherfucker, I'm not doing a Filipino accent. I'm doing the best impersonation of my mother. I can give a fuck about any other person's story. But the weird thing is that your mother's the white one. That was the thing that was weird because most that your mother's the white one. That was
Starting point is 00:08:26 the thing that was weird because most people don't know this about you. Your dad is Filipino. My dad is Filipino. And that's the story I'm trying to tell. Joseph is super racist when you think about it. He was making fun of your dad. My mom is the racist I'm talking about in this story.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It's like, if you look at the comedy through that lens, you're the most edgy comedian I've ever seen in my entire life. It's like, if you look at the comedy through that lens, you're the most edgy comedian I've ever seen in my entire life. I don't know if you know this, but my mom is a white woman from Little Manila in Queens. Yes. Yes. I know this.
Starting point is 00:08:55 My dad was a mailman. Yep, Filipino mailman. Yes. And this is a story I've been pitching to ABC, and they won't buy it. It's fucked up because your mom will do the accent. She learned Tagalog or whatever it's called. How do you want to fuck up my.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Tagalog. Tagalog. Tagalog. It's tag along. Tag along. Yes. And this. Tagalog.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Tagalog. Yes, Tagalog. Tagalong. Tagalog. Tagalog. Tagalog. Tagalog. Tagalog.
Starting point is 00:09:22 There you go. Yeah. How does your racist mom say it? She says it like you. That's the perks of a feather. You know how white people say it. You pronounce it so specifically. You've got to bring your white mom on stage.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Like, I've never showed my mom, but finally the biggest show. How funny would that be if I brought out, and she went like this, Joseph. Joseph. Dude, in Manila like this, Joseph. Joseph. Dude, in Manila. What the fuck did Joseph do? Joe Koy sold us on this bullshit. I just count my money and go, fuck y'all.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I won again. Does your mom not want to be in the public eye? Does she not want to? Because it'd be ironic if she wants to be invisible and your whole career is giving her visibility. No, she loves it, man. She loves what's happening right now. But it sucks.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I'm not going to lie. It sucks. And people don't understand how hard that was. People go, oh, Joe blew up because of the Netflix special. I'm like, I shot that shit. And here's another thing that no one knows. Also, it takes a long time to blow up overnight, bro. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it takes a long time to blow up overnight, bro. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Oh, here's a story. Yeah. You were the first comic I ever saw in LA, 2007. Wow. This is crazy. I think Finesse Mitchell was headlining, super funny. But you and Tiffany Haddish were both the feature comics. And I remember thinking-
Starting point is 00:10:39 Laugh Factory? Laugh Factory, 2007. I just moved to LA. I remember thinking Tiffany had this star quality and like my boy and I were like, yo, she's a star. And then I remember watching you and I was dying fucking laughing. I don't, to this day,
Starting point is 00:10:52 I don't know if you were high or not, but I was fucking, and I remember thinking this guy is so free on stage. I hadn't really started comedy, but I was like, that's what I want. The freedom he has on stage, the jokes you were doing, telling stories about your mom were so good.
Starting point is 00:11:07 But 15 years, I've remembered that. And then, you know, as you're building, I don't realize what's going on. I'm like, yo, I swear to God, I'd be like, what happened to that guy, Joe Coy? So fucking funny. Then I saw the Comedy Central special. Then I saw the Netflix. Then I'm seeing arenas. And it was like, yo, man, that guy fucking grinded his way up and deserved it.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And it's so cool to see. Thank you, man. Of course, man. I remember up and deserved it. And it's so cool to see. Thank you, man. Of course, man. I remember seeing you that night and thinking the same thing about your eyes. I was like, how is he so brown and his eyes aren't? And maybe that's why I was. Did he deliver food or something? Yeah, how did you?
Starting point is 00:11:41 No, he just got me with his eyes. Kind of like right now. I can't stop looking at his goddamn eyes. Yeah, they did you? No, he just got me with his eyes. Kind of like right now. I can't stop looking at his goddamn eyes. Yeah, they're very nice. I was there ordering water because I couldn't afford even Diet Coke. Oh, yeah, yeah. Jamie Masada would lock everybody down. Okay, so then you go and you crush and you become a superstar.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Well, how do you get it onto Netflix? No, so here's another thing, Andrew, that no one knows. Two days before I was shooting, they call my manager and go, hey, we heard Joe Coy shooting his special. We just want you to know that we're really not interested in that special. What the fuck? That's a true story. Unnecessary. Something happened with the Philippines and the person who was the head of Netflix.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah, yeah. The person that's the head of Netflix, he's Filipino. That's why. Really? That's why. That's what it is, dog. He knows how annoying Filipino people are. And he's like, nobody wants to hear from these people.
Starting point is 00:12:30 This is too much. Nobody's going to like this. There's no way this is going to work. Because he knows them at their core. Yeah, yeah. Well, he is the core. He's the core. He's Filipino.
Starting point is 00:12:39 He's really Filipino? No, Andrew. Sarandos. His mom is white. What are we doing, bro? Does Sarandos sound like it? You're fucking up everyoneandos. His mom is white. What are we doing, bro? Doesn't Sarandos sound like it? You're fucking up everyone's name.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You're a China man. Oh, man. Holy shit. You've been lying the whole time. You've been lying the whole time. I had to flip it. I had to flip it. I felt the pressure coming on me.
Starting point is 00:12:57 There's another racist statement. What? Flip it? Flip it, yeah. Oh, that was racist. That was racist on your side. On your side. That was your mom coming out. That was your mom coming out. My white mom? I have a Flip it, yeah. Oh, come on. That was racist on your side. On your side. That was your mom coming out.
Starting point is 00:13:06 That was your mom coming out. My white mom? I have a white mom, too. My white mom's an immigrant. Oh. She has an accent just like yours. Let me hear it. Let me hear it.
Starting point is 00:13:17 How does your mom? Joseph? She's a singer? Your mom's an R&B immigrant? Joseph. Joseph. immigrant? Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:31 No. She's a Scottish woman. Yeah. And I was told that it was too specific as well. Really? Yeah. You're full of shit. I was.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I was told that. My whole family was told that. What they were doing was too specific. And then they were taken over by the Brits. And then, do you know where the queen ended up dying? Where? Scotland. Joke's on you, bitch.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Right? Guess who got the final word. That's it. Payback, baby. Not the queen. Not the queen. Not at all, dude. Okay, baby. Not the queen. Not the queen. Not at all, dude. Okay, okay. When she died, she went like this.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It's too specific. Specific. Fucking kick the can. Okay, so then you go. Two days before, they go, we don't want your shit. Yeah. Okay. We shot it anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And Ted called you specific, like himself? No, no. No, Ted called me specifically yeah no we shot it we cut it and then uh and then like we we submitted it and like literally like maybe an hour later they go we want it they knew wow yeah they knew wow yeah yeah what made you say fuck it i'm gonna film it anyway because i knew it was good you knew it was that good and i knew i was good and you and your intention if they didn to film it anyway because I knew it was good you knew it was that good and I knew I was good and your intention
Starting point is 00:14:47 if they didn't buy it you would just put it out yourself bro you know I you know you shoot two in one night that's what some people have to do when no one wants their specials yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:14:54 we just had to put it on YouTube and see what happens yeah it's also a great option yeah it's really great yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:15:00 some people innovate and some people follow that model yeah it is it works out it does you know what I mean it works out it does man you know what I mean, some people innovate and then some people follow that model. Yeah, it is. It works out. It does. You know what I mean? It works out. It does, man.
Starting point is 00:15:09 You know what I mean? It's fucking beautiful in here. It's beautiful in here. It's pretty good. You're so dumb. Okay, no, but go. So what happens? We shoot it.
Starting point is 00:15:26 When they ask for it, do you fucking double the price? Yeah. How do you feel when you get that call? I find out. Man, I cried. I'm not going to lie. I mean, because it was a year process. It was like 2015 was when we found out that they were doing originals 2017.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So they were going to shoot 2016. They turned me down in 2015. It was like, 2016 was just me getting the money, getting the directors, finding the venue. It was just a whole year of me just mapping this out. And my team, my manager, my promoters. It was a lot. It was a lot of stress, but we were like, we gotta
Starting point is 00:16:00 do it. And I didn't care. If they didn't buy it, I would literally make DVDs if I had to. Even though they didn't sell them, I was gonna sell it out of the back of my car. And I didn't care. Like, if they didn't buy it, I would literally make DVDs if I had to. Even though they didn't sell them, I was going to sell it out of the back of my car. Yeah. You were hungry. Yeah. You're a hustler.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But you also knew that the people want it. That's the thing about, like, being on the road. When you sell out shows, it's proof of concept. Yeah. That's why when they say algorithm, I don't get it. I'm like, what algorithm are you talking about? Yeah, the one where people leave their house? I don't understand that algorithm.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I don't know what algorithm. What are you talking about? Because I got four forums sold out. I got two Honda centers sold out. I got two Chase centers sold out during the playoffs. Suck your shits! It's Golden State, Joe Coy, Golden State, Joe Coy. I got Climate Pledge Arena sold out six months in advance.
Starting point is 00:16:43 That's a terrible name for an arena. Tacoma Dome sold out. Yeah. Stock I'm playing Tacoma Dome, sold out. Yeah. Stockton, playing the Kings two times. Two Kings. I'm up and down. Then Madison Square. No, I just want to know what your algorithm is.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. I want to know what your demo is, and I want to know what specific you're talking about. How much you get paid for the last special? I'm so rich. How much you get paid for the last special? This one so rich. How much you get paid for the last special? This one from Netflix. How much you get paid? Oh, not much. Not much. Come on, bro. No, not much. 10 million? I'm not going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:17:11 20 million? No, not much at all. Not much for him. No, it's high. Yeah. Not much for you. No, not much at all. 25? 25? Which one's my camera? Because they're all red. You guys just run all of them at the same time.
Starting point is 00:17:28 There's just one guy going, fuck! Yeah! Fucking Schultz! Okay, so somewhere between 20. No, we're not going to talk money. It's 20. It's not a lot of money. You deserve 20, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's not a lot of money. If you're selling more. Well, thank you. Thank you. I'm just saying, you deserve it. I appreciate that. Okay. 10,000 seats on a Wednesday in the Philippines. Like, it's nothing, bro. Something light.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I mean, they don't have nothing to do, but still. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, 10,000 seats. I'm not bragging, but I think after 33 years, I should be able to say these things. Damn! What were the seats made out of, even? Yeah. Well, out of my night?
Starting point is 00:18:04 Bring your own? For my night? It was Well, out of my night? Bring your own? For my night? It was a BYOC. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Bring your own chair. The hospitals. And they did that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So many. So many. So many. Joe, an Indian knows 10,000 seats in the Philippines makes as much as about 150 seats in the U.S. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So he sold an improv on a Tuesday. Yeah, I didn't hear anything you said because of your eyes. So you might not want to talk this whole fucking show. Because I'm not going to listen to anything. All right?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Just smile and keep your eyes bright. And he's freshly single, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Freshly single. From your fake relationship with Chelsea Handler. I mean, wait. Were you guys really in a relationship? Be honest.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Now, this is. That doesn't seem like a yes. That doesn't seem like a yes. That doesn't seem like a yes. Joseph! This is fun to even... Joseph! ...play with this type of conversation. Joseph!
Starting point is 00:18:55 I am your white mother right now. Joseph! Yeah. How do you know how to play with that? He's going through a breakup. Why are you doing this to him? What do you how to play with that he's going through a breakup why are you doing this to him what do you want to do with that can we pretend to laugh
Starting point is 00:19:09 and believe that question yes then we'll all laugh at that okay yeah I do not have a relationship with her no
Starting point is 00:19:16 yeah I mean you know it's a breakup whatever we're still friends but you know are you heartbroken no no not at all we you know
Starting point is 00:19:24 the way it happened the way it happened the way it happened at the beginning no because it's a you know it's a breakup bro it's like whatever but i really don't want to talk about it okay it's a breakup fair enough i don't want to make you feel uncomfortable here not at all but you did you ever hear people go like are they really yeah but i i always thought those people were stupid. On this podcast, maybe? Yeah. Those people are dumb and stupid.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And ugly also. They're also ugly. Yeah. And I also thought any one of the things like that was an insecure piece of shit. Piece of shit, yeah, yeah. But no one thinks like that. I mean, nobody. Not in this room.
Starting point is 00:19:58 None of us. Am I right, guys? None of us. Okay, now here's the thing. We're all adults here. We're not. Now that's a lie. Are we 14 again? Now that's a lie. We're actually not all adults. That's the thing. We're all adults here. We're not. Now that's a lot. Are we 14 again?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Now that's a lot. We're actually not all adults. Next thing you know, you're going to buy a bunch of electric bikes and donate them at Burning Man. No, we did do that. Is that what we do? We threw them out. Come on.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Right? Only children do dumb shit like that. Okay, okay. Now, now. Yep. Can we get this back on the rails? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Okay. You also have to be careful with that, by the way, because that's a voodoo doll. You know that, right? Oh, it's not. Now, now. Can we get this back on the rails? Yeah. Okay. You also have to be careful with that, by the way, because that's a voodoo doll. You know that, right? No, it's not. Yeah, it is. It's my Joseph. Check your asshole.
Starting point is 00:20:34 You're not going to believe what I put in that doll before the show started. I go, if he asks one question that's stupid, his ass is going to bleed. Now, you have always told me how grateful you were of Chelsea because she gave you that great opportunity on her show and you absolutely murdered it on her show. Yeah. So you guys. The way it rekindled was when I got the Variety magazine and they went to ask her for like a question.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And then we just, our relationship started and it was like, it was crazy. We just started talking. I just wanted to be friends. And then this relationship, it was cool. It was cool. She was coming at you, huh? No, it was cool.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Like, I don't like, I don't even, I don't even like spending time on this because it was like, it was a cool relationship and we broke up and unfortunately it didn't work out. Yeah. And that's fine but it was it was it was fun while maybe maybe the commentary is because you guys were so publicly in a relationship when we know that's that's what killed it too like i honestly we didn't know anything about
Starting point is 00:21:34 your love life before we knew you had a kid but i never wanted i never told anyone about my love life even my ex like you know i keep that private you know and you know i I just don't like it because I have a kid. He loved her. It was fun, man. But it was a breakup. Yeah. And when you're public, you don't want to be – I don't like seeing breakups where it's like they're fighting and it's like, oh, I'm going to throw this person out.
Starting point is 00:22:02 That's just stupid. That's juvenile, man. It's like my life is, I've moved on. I got a career to talk about. I got my son to talk about. I got, I ain't got time for all that drama, man. He made you look so bad. You look like such a piece of shit right now.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It's unbelievable. I look like a piece of shit? Hey, man. I look like a piece of shit? Hey, Andrew, no one has to tell you that. Did you guys just double down on me looking like a piece of shit? I'm a journalist here. I'm a real journalist, and I have to ask the hard-hitting questions, okay?
Starting point is 00:22:35 I'm looking, I'm caring about you. I see you in this relationship that you're very excited about. And then I would watch more of the content, and then there was moments where you looked frustrated. You guys were cooking. Yeah, that's called breaking up. Yeah, but you had to cook through it. Well, because we were so public.
Starting point is 00:22:50 But I mean, don't get me wrong. I still, I enjoyed, I enjoyed Chelsea. She's great. She's fun. Wouldn't she ask this question on her show if she was interviewing? I'm pretty, even if she did, I don't want to pay that any mind or attention.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That energy doesn't need to go there anymore. It feels like there's a new girl out there. No, there's... Why are you talking into my head like a microphone? Yeah, exactly. It feels like there's a new girl out there. Somebody. Do you feel him rubbing the back of your head right now?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Are you done with white women? No, no. Are you done with white women? First of all, you mean Filipino women. Wait, Chelsea's Filipino? Yes. Holy shit. They're everywhere, bro. Are you done with white women? First of all, you mean Filipino women. Wait, Chelsea's Filipino? Yes. Holy shit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:26 They're everywhere, bro. I fucking knew it. Bro, these are all groundbreakers, man. Huh? Handler. Roll the R. Roll the R. Handler.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Fuck, I'm so... Dude, I'm bad. I can only roll the R in the beginning of a sentence. I literally had to train myself. I lived in Spain, and I couldn't roll the R, so I'd walk down the street just going, rrrr, rrrr. Practice.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Every single day for six months. Dude, I still can't do it. Rrrr. Oh, there you go. But I can do it in the beginning, not the end. Handler, rrrr. So there's two names. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah, yeah. Her middle name is rrrr. Exactly. Exactly. That was feisty. Okay, good. So there's a new woman You're in love with And then
Starting point is 00:24:08 How did you guys meet What is that There's no one in my life No one No I don't like this Because you have so much Fucking love to give
Starting point is 00:24:15 You're one of the Sweetest guys ever You're incredibly talented And you're too rich To be single This is the thing Ever since he got married I'm married
Starting point is 00:24:23 He got married He wants everyone In a relationship Government half Wife half I have a little bit This is the thing, ever since he got married You're too rich, I'm married He got married, he wants everyone in a relationship Government, half Wife, half Yeah I have a little bit You have it all
Starting point is 00:24:30 That's not a fraction of work Four forums The staples I'll run the list again, yeah Go Honda Center twice You're playing the volcano in Hawaii Toyota Center twice
Starting point is 00:24:39 You're playing the volcano I was told you're playing the volcano in Hawaii I played it I was told Would you be mad if I told you I're playing a volcano in Hawaii. I played it. Would you be mad if I told you I'm playing it? I would not be mad. I'm actually playing a volcano. It's an amphitheater.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Joseph. Yes. Keep going. Because you want to know if you think I'm lying. I believe you. But you think I'm telling the truth. At this point, I believe everything. You want more to see if I'm lying. Yes. There's But you think I'm telling the truth. At this point, I believe everything. You want more to see if I'm lying?
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yes. There's an amphitheater in Kauai that's actually inside of a volcano. Get the fuck out of here. Do you remember we were there? They protested a 20-meter telescope. It's 40,000 seats. And they like this. It's 40,000 seats. 40,000 seats.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And that's Hawaiian seats, which are 10 seats. 10 seats. 10 seats. And that's Hawaiian seats, which are... 10. 10 seats. 10 seats. 10 seats. And I sold that shit out quick. Quick. Quick. And where will you put... Does your new girls go to the shows?
Starting point is 00:25:34 How does that... You mean girls. Oh! He's Mormon, too. You are Hawaiian. Let's go. That's 10 Hawaiian girls. Tongans.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Tongans are Hawaiian. Which is equivalent. That's 10 Hawaiian girls. Tongans. Tongans are Hawaiians. Which is equivalent to 40,000 white women. Wow. The conversion rate is high. That's crazy. It's crazy, man. Dude. Get with me, man.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah, I feel you. I feel you. Join the team, bro. Join the team. Join the team. You don't have to cut so many cameras, bro. One iPhone. That's all I got.
Starting point is 00:26:03 One iPhone. I want you to know I'm on board. Josh knows. I mean, Joe, it's truly remarkable. You're so dumb. You're dumb. You are a dumb. Hold on, now, Joe.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Hold on, hold on. Not the journalist glasses. He always does that. Not for me. Listen. Hold on. Hold on now. the journalist glasses. He always does that. Not for me. Listen. Hold on. Hold on now. Joseph, listen.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Listen. Listen. Listen. I want us to have a serious interview. Yeah. Yes. Okay. So then can we cut the last question?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah. That is that. So look. Here it is. In life, were you like the class clown growing up or something? Come on. You are the worst. You're the worst.
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Starting point is 00:31:11 to the show. Okay, Joseph. Yes. Just real quick, this Netflix special that's coming out right now, if you could objectively rank it. It's my best one. Really? It's my best one. I liked Wow. It's my best one. Okay, so then here's my question.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I liked how I wrote. You know, I was always struggling with my closer on this one, and then it just came right at the last second. I mean, for like almost a year and a half, I was just like, I can't figure this fucking thing out. I knew what I wanted to say. Story or? It's story. Okay. And I knew how I wanted to tie it in, but it just wasn't hitting everywhere I went. It was just long. It was too wordy. It was just like, I was trying to cut fat
Starting point is 00:31:58 and then it wasn't getting what I wanted. I wasn't getting the emotion that I wanted. And then one day I, you ever land on that one word that you needed? Yep. It's just one word. Yep. It's one fucking word. And it was this one night I hit this word. It just came out of my mouth.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I was like, there it is. And I had it. I was like, there it is. I want to ask you the word, but you just gave the best pitch for everybody to go watch the special. So I don't want to know the word so that we all go watch the special, so I don't want to know the word so that we all go watch the special.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Because I have to go see it. But there's a lot riding on this word. Is it the N word? No. No. And we'll be right back after these messages. Sorry about that. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Okay, so best special. Best special. Now, here's the question. How do you develop now that you're doing – because I'll be honest. I found it hard. Like, this was my first tour where I started to do what I think are bigger venues. They're a fraction of the size of the venues you do, but I think are pretty big. And I found it harder to work out on the road.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yours are big. They're not the fucking volcano in Hawaii. Yeah. Okay. But, but at the same time, I remember when you were doing this, dude, I remember watching you go from clubs to theaters to fucking arenas. And I remember seeing that, that jump. It was, it was really unbelievable. And, uh, but what I'm curious is, is, are you working out in clubs? I remember watching you at a club just working out, and my mouth dropped. And I hugged you. I hugged you that night.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Where were we? It was Gotham. Oh, my God. Yes. It was before I even knew who you were. I didn't even know you were fucking with Charlemagne or anything. And I walked right up to you. I ran up to you.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Aw. Yeah. Thank you. And I hugged you, and I was just like, you're fucking brilliant. I hugged you tight. I remember that. Yeah. Thank you. And I hugged you, and I was just like, you're fucking brilliant. I hugged you tight. I remember that. Yeah, man. When I see someone that's just like extremely.
Starting point is 00:33:49 What a piece of shit, dude. I didn't forget it. I didn't forget it. I didn't forget it. I remember that. Yeah, you forgot. It's fine. I did.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. That's your closer. That's the word. He said, yabba, dabba, dabba, doo.
Starting point is 00:34:04 No, but I remember, I just, I love watching a comic that, I don't know, like I love comedy so much. And you know when someone's being genuine. And like you can either have a story to tell that's very genuine or you can be your genuine self on stage. As long as you're doing those two things, then to me, you're a comedian. When I see you, when I can actually see the words on the page come out of your mouth, then I stop listening to you. It feels like you're reading. Yeah, I stop listening to you.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And then when I don't see, like, I know when you're ad-libbing and I know when you're improvising. I know. And I can also watch your act. Thisbing and I know when you're improvising. I know. Yeah, yeah. And I can also watch your act. This is just me, all right? But I can watch someone's act and I can already write a tag and I can also get a callback in there while you're on stage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And when I'm on stage, I like to do that. You hit. So, like, when I'm talking and it hits, it comes out right away. I don't censor myself. So, when I see that, I get really excited. You get excited, yeah, yeah. And I remember watching you that night, and I was like, oh, this is special. Oh, thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah, and I think that was like 10 years ago. Yeah, this is probably a while now. Or eight years ago. Yeah. Right? I'm pretty sure. Maybe before you came on Brilliant Idiots for the first time. Yeah, but even then, that was like a year or years after. Yeah, yeah, Right? I'm pretty sure. Maybe before you came on Brilliant Idiots for the first time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:25 But even then, that was like a year or years after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember hugging you. I still remember what you were wearing. What was I wearing? You were wearing a denim jacket and dark pants. Yeah. Dark pants and a denim jacket.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And you had to hurry up and go to another spot. And I just was like, oh, that guy's good. Aw, dude. Hi. There's a lot of guys I see. I saw, before the pandemic, I saw, I was, you know, because I like to go up at like open mics and shit, right? Dude, that, I love that.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I saw you go up at one in Hawaii. Yeah, I go up at, I did one in the Philippines, and it was in the basement. It's like some pool hall. And I went up, and then the two guys that went up before me, they were funny. I was like, hey, you want to go up in an arena?
Starting point is 00:36:07 And I put them up in my arena. That's so cool. How did they do in the arena? They ate shit. But you know what I mean? You gave them a shot.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You know what I mean? I gave them a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did all right. They did all right. I just... You know what she said they did all right?
Starting point is 00:36:24 They ate shit. They ate shit. And he's like, no, no, no, they did all right? They did all right. They ate shit. They ate shit. And he's like, no, no, no. They did all right. They did all right. That means they bombed. If Joe Coy says he did all right, you ate your balls. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:36:35 So wait, you go up and- I'll go up anywhere. I know. And then are you doing material? You just riffing with people? No, I'll just riff, yeah. Are you not worried about the pressure of all these people that admire you? No.
Starting point is 00:36:43 One time I was in Cleveland and I was doing some thing. At an open mic? And I pulled up on my tour bus in front of an open mic. I love it. That's so sick. I love it. It was so fun. I got out and it was like I was next to a TV set.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like they had like these fold curtains to separate the bar from like where I was going up. And I went up. And then I got everyone on my bus. I put those comics on the bus and then we went and it was fun. But I saw, I was, before the pandemic, before the pandemic I went to a pool hall, right? They were doing open mic and the big pool table in the middle of the room.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And then off in the corners where the microphone was and I was about to go up and this good looking guy with a mustache, muscular, he was just killing it, killing it. And I was just like, oh, oh, fuck, I'm going to fuck with this guy. Who is this guy? He's crushing. And he gets off stage, because I had to go up after him. And he got off stage, I'm going to talk to him when I get off stage. So I went up and I got off and he was gone. And I'm like, I was asking the guy I was with, I was like, do you know,
Starting point is 00:37:46 good looking, good guy with people. I don't remember his name and I guess he was just a surprise set or he just went up, his name wasn't on the list and no one would tell me his name
Starting point is 00:37:54 and then he haunted me for like six, seven months and then all of a sudden I went to Netflix and he pops up. He was on like some stand-up special and it was Matteo Lane.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I go, that's him. Hilarious. Yo. I go, that's him! I go, that's him! And then I DM'd him that night. I DM'd him and I go, bro, you're fucking brilliant. And when this pandemic's done, I want to fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Seriously. This is how progressive you are. That Matteo Lane you describe as handsome with a mustache and not gay. Not gay as fuck. And I go, I want to fuck after that. And we remained friends during the pandemic. We love Mateo. Yeah, he was incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And then I had him open for me at Brooklyn. And then he's going to open for me at Madison Square Garden. When are you in Garden? I want to come to that. November 10th. You have to buy a ticket. I'll support. I'll do whatever I can. No, I'd to come to that. November 10th. You have to buy a ticket. I'll support. I'll do whatever I can.
Starting point is 00:38:48 No, I'd love for you to be there, man. I just want to see it. Are you there right before UFC? Oh, that's the weekend of the big fight. The 10th is Thursday, right? I don't know. Oh, yeah, it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah, yeah, huge fight. Izzy, stylebender. Oh, Izzy? Yeah. Oh, man, I love him. Stay in town. Go watch the fight. You have other shows. It's that weekend, Yeah. Oh, man, I love him. Stay in town. Go watch the fight. You have other shows.
Starting point is 00:39:07 It's that weekend, right? Yeah, so you're there Thursday. Yeah, I'm gone. You have to leave. Yeah. He has other arenas to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you tell the story real quick about...
Starting point is 00:39:18 Well, I'm going to challenge some more guys. Oh, yeah, yeah, go, go, go. J.R. De Guzman, Andrew Lopez. Andrew! Asif Ali and of course Mateo Lane like those are my favorites
Starting point is 00:39:29 like those guys make me ooh like Beth Stelling like those when I see them I'm like ooh I like that I like what they're doing
Starting point is 00:39:38 can you okay now can you tell a story yeah yeah okay so is it going to be a real one
Starting point is 00:39:43 no this is this is well I don't know you gotta tell me when this is a real Okay. Is it going to be a real one? No, this is, well, I don't know. You've got to tell me when. This is a real story. Would you want this to be a real talk? This is a real story. This is a real story. This is, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Ready? We're going to, okay. Now I feel pressure to do a fake one. But it was real, what I wanted before. Yeah. Okay, it's the story about when you were, I think, taping the Netflix special for the first one, and you didn't like the first set,
Starting point is 00:40:10 and then the second set, you just kind of like winged it in the beginning. Yeah. The first set, I was so pissed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when I cried. And this is when you put up all the money. I put up all the money. They were like, we're not going to buy it,
Starting point is 00:40:21 so you have nowhere to go with that. I had nowhere to go. And then the first set, it was just, everything was fucked up, man. That's why if you're going to do, if you're going to tape, like, we're not going to buy it. So, you have nowhere to go with that. I had nowhere to go. And then the first set, it was just everything was fucked up, man. That's why if you're going to do, if you're going to tape, right, the cool thing about that is I learned everything. Yeah. And it's just like, you know, well, you shot your special, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, you know, like, you learn things.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Like, you watch other specials. You get it. We did four shows on purpose. Yeah, you have to. Yeah. I'm, like, the entire audience. You know that, right? Yes, you have to. Yeah, you have to. I mic the entire audience. You know that, right? Yes, you have to.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah, you have to. I had microphones in the second balcony all the way to the back. Smart. That's why people go, oh, he's got a laugh track. I was like, no, motherfucker. I got everyone's laughter on tape. 100%. Like, I got it.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah. But, like, I remember we shot that first one. That's so smart, by the way, because sometimes comics put out these specials, and it sounds like they're bombing. Yeah, because they're picking up all the audio from their handheld. It's like smart, by the way, because sometimes comics put out these specials and it sounds like they're bombing. Yeah, because they're picking up all the audio from their handheld. It's like, what are you doing? You need to recreate the sound of the room. The only way to do that is to have microphones in the fucking
Starting point is 00:41:13 room. And it's so funny because I studied every, like, I only watched the specials that I enjoyed watching to learn how to shoot my special. And what I fell in love with on sound was Dana Carvey's. I saw Dana Carvey's. I go, this doesn't sound real.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I go, what is this? Like this, I feel like I'm there. And then I gave it to my sound engineer. And he goes, oh, he just added more mics. He goes, that's easy. He goes, most specials, they only do like two boom mics on the stage. So stupid. Because they can just get in the front people.
Starting point is 00:41:48 They're only in the front. And it doesn't sound full. He goes, Dana went all the way to the back. And I go, well, whatever Dana got, double it. And that's what we did. You know who else did fucking amazing sound design was when Burr did the theater in England. The Royal Albert or something like that. Nice.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And I thought, because the bigger the venue, the harder it is to do a set. Way harder, yeah. Because you're starting to catch the echo of the mic as well as the audience, and you've got to find a way to separate those two, whatever. And the way that he did his in a venue that size with great acoustics, sometimes venues that have good acoustics. I don't understand that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, I'll play, I'm sorry to switch, right? Go, go, go good acoustics, I don't understand that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Dude, like I play, like I'll play, I'm sorry to switch, right? Go, go, go, go. I just don't understand. We live in a time where we got computers, we got everything that you need.
Starting point is 00:42:33 You can base, you can base the design of your room just by going to the perfect theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, you guys have perfect sound,
Starting point is 00:42:40 okay, let's get the best engineers and let's figure this out and we'll make it over here. Yeah. No one wants to do that. You go to San Antonio, it's like you're playing
Starting point is 00:42:47 in a fucking ice cave. It's like, what is wrong in here? I put every fucking microphone in here. We bought extra speakers. We brought everything and it sounds awful. And then you go to Phoenix. I'm just telling you right now,
Starting point is 00:43:01 you go to Phoenix and you play- The one in the round? No, no, that's Celebrity. I play arenas. I'm sorry. Where they play, you go to Phoenix and you play One of the round? No, no, that's celebrity I play arenas Where they play basketball? Where they play basketball Not where the convention is So silly
Starting point is 00:43:14 The sun Where the suns play Are you talking about the Tempe improv? No, that is the best venue I've ever been in. Interesting. Really? Yeah, it was incredible. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:43:31 It felt like I was playing at a comedy club. Yeah. I forget what it's called, but where the Suns play. Yeah, where the Suns play. It was incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? Never mind.
Starting point is 00:43:41 What? No, you're doing that thing now. No, I'm not doing that thing. No, you're doing that thing. This is incredibly important to me, the sound for a comedy special specifically. Yeah. He's obsessive about it. I'm obsessed.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Footprint setter. Good. I am absolutely obsessed with it. Even when I started putting out clips originally, I was like, yeah, this is the differentiating factor. It's like, well, obviously you need to have the jokes and all these things need to be there. But I feel like energy exchange between comic and audience is integral to enjoying it at home. And if the comic looks like he's giving too much
Starting point is 00:44:09 and the audience isn't giving enough, even if they are, but it feels as if they're not, there's this awkwardness that you feel. Yes, yes. And I don't ever want somebody at home to feel that awkwardness. And also-
Starting point is 00:44:20 And the people who get it, sorry, but the people who get it and who have done it well, the comics who've done it well, the people who watch the special don't realize what's happening. They just go, I just really loved watching that. Yeah. It's an unconscious reaction for them. And that's something that we need to be aware of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Because they don't know exactly what's happening. They don't know they're being brought into the room. Literally the beginning of the special we just put out, the first few lines is, turn up the volume on your TV. It's specifically been designed to bring you into the room. And yeah, I just love that you paid attention to it like that. And I also think that sometimes the old rooms... I like how you light up your room.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Okay, go on that. Well, I just know that, one, your crowd work is spot on. That's your signature. By the way, my crowd work is fucking amazing. No, I was just about to say. Where's my camera? I was just about to say. It's over there.
Starting point is 00:45:14 It's right back there. My crowd work is amazing. I don't know which one to look at. They're all red. Right here, buddy. Absolutely kill it. So this one? Yeah, just that one.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Just look at that camera right there. Yeah So absolutely kill it. So this one. Yeah. Just that one. Just look at that camera. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you have to like them. Oopsie. What a shame. Yeah. Do you have to show them? But I think sometimes the old venues that have the acoustics, they're basically built before technology. Yeah. They were built when people were just talking to a thousand people or two thousand people. Now you don't have to deal with these things. But sometimes when you put speakers in there, because the acoustics were so good naturally, it echoes like crazy when you add the speakers.
Starting point is 00:45:56 That's the tricky thing. That is the tricky thing. Not with the suns. It's a lot easier. Yeah. Because they're used to loud noises. But then there's also those venues that were made like 70 years ago and it's just like fucking perfect. Well, when did we get sound?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Like Bob Hope Theater, I think it's called. I don't know where it's at, but I just remember talking to the guy. I'm like, how old is he? He's like, Charlie Chaplin used to perform here. And I'm just like, this is incredible. He didn't have... Yeah, he was silent.
Starting point is 00:46:20 How did they even... Why would they care? He had no sound. He wasn't mute. Yeah, he was a mute. Do you think he was a mute? Look at me, look at me. How did they even, why would they care? He had no sound. He wasn't mute. Yeah, he was a mute. Do you think he was a mute? Look at me, look at me. Hey.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, Joseph. What? That was maybe the worst example of a performer that you could have possibly used for sound. Do you know what I mean? They captured his walk perfectly. They got every footstep. What?
Starting point is 00:46:44 He has a whole Charlie Chaplin, that's his whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joseph, don't take that. Don't take that, Joseph. I'm not going to say this, but I think he also did
Starting point is 00:46:52 Charlie Chaplin like an unplugged, which was like a reverse. Ah. Where he actually spoke. Like a Nirvana set. And then didn't do anything. It was like,
Starting point is 00:46:59 you know what I mean? He's like, I know you guys, you came to see me live. Yeah. You don't want to see me quiet because that's what you always see. This is me. Hi, I know you guys, you came to see me live. Yeah. You don't want to see me quiet because that's what you always see. This is me.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Hi, I'm Charlie. Holy shit. Yeah. And they have that. It's on Blu-ray. I was also wild to see an Asian person go, hi, I'm Charlie. Like that. He'll be right back after these messages.
Starting point is 00:47:22 But yeah, shout outs to Charlie Chaplin, dude. Big inspiration for you. He was one of the reasons why I do stand-up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, now I see. He was, dude. You know what I mean? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Okay, can I ask a question? Yeah. Okay. If not stand-up, is there any other form of entertainment that you think that you would succeed in? Directing. Ooh. So behind the camera. What about in front of the camera?
Starting point is 00:47:57 I like it. I don't mind it. But I really love stand-up. Yeah. And if I'm going to be in front of the camera, I want to perform that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But behind the camera, I love it. Do you want to direct stand-up specials for other people?
Starting point is 00:48:11 Yeah. We're already in the works. Really? Yeah. Can we talk about who? Well, after, no, we can't. But, yeah, we want to get these deals done. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:21 And I'm going to knock it out of the park because I'm going to do it the right way. Yes. Yeah. You get it. Yeah, you get it. I love watching. And I'm going to knock it out of the park because I'm going to do it the right way. Yes. Yeah. You get it. Yeah, you get it. I love watching. What you did was incredible, man. That was cool.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Thank you, man. Yeah. And yours was awesome too. Thank you, buddy. Thank you. I love it when people share the light, you know? Yeah. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I like seeing you with the platform that you have and the, what do you call this? This is beyond, I don't even know what this is. What you've built is just amazing. We built it. This is a big team. I know, but you say that all the time, and I love that, man. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:48:56 That's so cool. And your team is what makes you who you are. More fun that way. It's cool. Yeah, man. Like, I don't understand these gatekeepers, bro. Yeah. That old school mentality
Starting point is 00:49:07 is just so lame. I'm so sick of it. I wish you would shout out your team more. That was one of the things that I always thought about. Well, you were on my team. And then what happened?
Starting point is 00:49:17 Man, you... Too specific, right? Too specific, bro. I don't like Filipinos, bro. Dude, I really thought Ted Serrano was Filipino, man, when you said that. Because the name could be Filipino. Yeah, except his face. Oh, but I've never seen his face.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Oh, you haven't? No. No, it's not like that. Ted's very nice, by the way. No, yes. He's a great guy. Yes, he is. I like him.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Yeah. Ted is a figment of my imagination. He exists in the ether somewhere. But it's okay. You know what I mean? Stop price. Ted is a figment of my imagination. He exists in the ether somewhere. But it's okay. You know what I mean? Stop price. What are you going to do? This guy's an animal, right?
Starting point is 00:49:54 This guy's just an animal, dude. Ukraine or Russia? How many more commercial breaks can we do? That's an easy one. That's actually an easy one. Yeah, like, have you thought about which side you're on? I'll be on a pretty clear side. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah, man. Yeah, man. You know what I mean? Right? That's the best way to answer a tough question. Jesus. Yeah, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Totally, dude. Totally, dude. I totally. Ukraine and Russia. 100. 100. 100, dude. Totally, dude. I totally. Ukraine and Russia. 100. 100, dude. Like. You know?
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is, hey, what is your favorite number? Mine? Yeah. You know what it is. What is it?
Starting point is 00:50:39 Seven. Is it? No. But isn't there like a superstition in Tagalog? Oh, I knew that this was going to go somewhere when I started this line of questioning. Because you saw the eight on my arm? Yes. Did you see what I just did?
Starting point is 00:50:54 This guy. Chosen one. Listen. Okay. You chose the wrong number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is seven the most dangerous number? I don't know. Because seven, eight, nine
Starting point is 00:51:05 fucking asshole. You go, you idiot. I pulled back. I pulled back. Remember what I said earlier? I don't like those guys. I know. I fucking pulled back. I don't like it. Fuck, dude.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I like you too much. I can't be mean. Okay. But that is a very I can't be mean. Okay. But that is a very astute observation of mine. Yes. You want to ask him why? Wait, why is eight your favorite number? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I always liked eight. I like the infinity aspect of it that it looks. But it's also my birth number. All my numbers add up to eight. So my birthday adds up to eight. So I just like eight. That's my number, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I didn't think we were going to get this deep. Can I get my sunglasses? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck. No, man. Fuck that, dude. Sunglass koi is a problem, dude. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:52:00 Let me have those glasses, please. Can I see which type these are? Ooh. Black. Oh, black label. Oh. Oh, shit, bro. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Yo, do you know what I like that you do? I own these, by the way. I know. I assumed. Wait a minute. The company? Yeah. Oh, sick.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I assumed. This is mine. I assumed he asked for a reason, you know? Oh, that's nice. I'm just doing this because you're doing it. All right. I feel like an asshole doing it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:25 You're not an asshole. We're locked in LA together. I mean, you, wow, you're fucking intimidating with those glasses on. My eyes are closed, by the way.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I can see they're not. That was a racist joke you made. Listen, Joe. I can't do this. Joe, Joe. I can't, I can't, I can't. Come on, Joe.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I can't. Joe, can we do it for the culture? Yes. All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because some of y'all stink, smell like ass, walking around your mother's house, disrespecting her. Okay? I know you're upset because she got a new man and you're trying to stink him out. You're trying to stink up that house so bad that he stops smashing your mom's back out. But it's not going to happen.
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Starting point is 00:57:35 Yes. Has there ever been a person that came to your shows that really meant a lot to you? You're doing this big arena, and all of a sudden you find out, oh, my God. Good question. This person just showed up. They want to meet you. You're in this big arena and all of a sudden you find out, oh my God, this person just showed up. I think my favorite, I think my personal favorite is Chris asking about me, Chris Rock.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Oh, really? I thought that was like my, that was my. I don't know what that was. Moving. He said the editor's upstairs. They get rowdy. Do they physically edit? Yeah, yeah, they do. They don't use a mouse?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Yeah, they're chopping tape out. It's a straight edge cutter. Yeah, exactly, they did. They don't use a mouse? Yeah, they're chopping tape. It's a straight edge cutter. Yeah, exactly. It's actual film. Yeah, it's analog, you know? It's more honest. No, Chris, that was my favorite. What was this?
Starting point is 00:58:14 What happened? It was in the city, and he just was asking, he was asking my agent, I guess we have the same agent or something, and then he came up and we were talking. And I thought that was just like, oh, fuck, yes, you don't know what you did for me. You know what I mean? You don't know what bringing the pain did for me. And how far along were you when he came up to you? That was just recently.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Oh, really? Yeah, that was like two years ago. And I was just like, wow. Was he looking for a muscular guy with a mustache? That's the way he really? Yeah, that was like two years ago. And I was just like, wow. Was he looking for a muscular guy with a mustache? That's who he wanted? Yeah. He went Schultz? No, no.
Starting point is 00:58:53 You're thinking of a different Filipino guy. I'm Filipino, bro. Huh? I'm Filipino, dude. Bro, we're all Filipino. What about you is Filipino? What do you mean? Nothing about you is Filipino.
Starting point is 00:59:03 My box? Okay, that's a little Filipino. I dance. That's one Filipino, to be honest with you. That's is Filipino. What do you mean? Nothing about you is Filipino. I box. Okay, that's a little Filipino. I dance. That's one Filipino, to be honest with you. That's one Filipino. No, but I think Filipinos are excellent boxers. Brian Valoria. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:12 The Hawaiian Punch. Yeah. Okay. The Hawaiian Punch. But his name's his Hawaiian. That's his name. You know Brian. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:59:18 He's a beast. Yes. Okay, so other than fighting and boxing, I mean, ethnically you're not Filipino. Fighting and boxing are also the same thing. I think Filipino is more of like a feeling. That's what I feel. If you feel Filipino. You feel Filipino.
Starting point is 00:59:32 If you feel Filipino. I feel Filipino. When I'm around you, I feel at home. That's how I feel about you. That's why we're fucking Filipinos, dude. That's why we're all Filipino. Is it true that Filipinos sometimes wipe with the rock in the bucket? Is that a thing?
Starting point is 00:59:45 I need this guy to leave. Is that? I'm curious. I'm not doing the show until you leave. This is a cultural question. We do not do that. I need this guy to leave right now.
Starting point is 00:59:52 You fucking cracker. Which was my camera. Call him a cracker. You wipe with your hand, which is a little Filipino also of yours. I don't wipe with my hand. I wipe with the rock.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I use the rock in the bucket, dude. Is that what you do? Yes, I do. Don't you for the dingleberries and shit? Yeah, the hard parts. Yeah. What do you wipe with? Charmin?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Yeah. I use a wet wipe, okay? Dude, it's like the first world. It's like how comfy does wiping your ass need to be? Yeah. A little. Yeah, exactly. Do you know?
Starting point is 01:00:21 I use a bidet. See? Thank you. That's variation of you. Really? Yeah. G's up. I respect that.
Starting point is 01:00:31 G's up. Where's my camera? This one right here. Oh, you told me this several times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my camera right there. Are you really bidet? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:00:41 No, come on. You don't have one? I enjoy it too much. I just start fucking beating dick on it and stuff like that. It's crazy, man. You'd wash the front. Yep. He actually has one.
Starting point is 01:00:50 You would wash it. You would wipe your ass and wash your dick. He sits backwards a lot on the toilet. That's how Andrew would do it. Like that. And then wash my dick. Reverse cowgirl. I go reverse cowgirl, man.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Every single time. No, you'd just sit like this. Just wash your little dick right there. And then you wipe your ass like that. Why does it have to be little, bro? No, little dick is not describing how big it is. Oh, I thought it sounded like that. It's just funnier to say little dick.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Oh, okay. All right. He actually had a bidet and he couldn't install it. Yeah, I didn't know how to install it. You're not supposed to. I'm Filipino, dude. I'm not an installer of things. No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I'm a fixer. We're fixing people. You fix things. I fix. No, you're not. I'm a fixer. We're fixing people. You fix things. I fix. Yes, you do. Duh. It's one of the things, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:33 You're right. Can we tell everybody about us? Because that's the thing that annoys me. Filipino cuisine. You know, Filipinos love their food. Gluck Gluck. 3,000. Gluck Gluck 3,000?
Starting point is 01:01:43 That is my favorite. What is a Gluck Gluck 3,000? What is my favorite. What is a Gluck Gluck 3,000? What is a what? What? What are you talking about, Joe? That's a video game. No, it isn't. It's a video.
Starting point is 01:01:52 You're a fucking asshole. It's a video. That's a video game. It is. It feels like a video game. It's just like a little Filipino guy climbing a tree. Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gluck Gl cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck. Ba-da-doop. Ba-da-doop. Tree. No, but that is my favorite.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Yeah. Good. Yeah. I like that. I don't know. Filipino music? I mean, do you know anything about? Karaoke, mostly.
Starting point is 01:02:16 It's my favorite. That's a Filipino music. That is mine. Yeah. I like that one. Of course you do. Yeah. I mean, it seems like you're trying to question whether or not. Well, you don't seem anything like Joe, so that's why I'm bringing it up.
Starting point is 01:02:29 It's weird. Look at how we're sitting. Look at where our pants go. Watches, we're into it. Watches. You know, glasses. Great teeth. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Mine's fake. I wouldn't say that. Are yours real? Not, I mean, technically, but I got's true. Mine's fake. I wouldn't say that. Are yours real? Not, I mean, technically, but I got them moved around by something fake. So our smiles are equally fake. Invisalign. Veneers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:59 20 grand? Oh, God. 40? Did you get a gold one or like a diamond in there? No, I didn't. Oh, you should have. If I get veneers, that's what I'm doing. No, I spent a? Did you get a gold one or like a diamond in there? No, I didn't. Oh, you should have. If I get veneers, that's what I'm doing. No, I spent a lot of money on my veneers.
Starting point is 01:03:09 It sucked. It sucked. But worth it? How much did it change your life? Oh, so worth it. My teeth were so bad. Can I ask you? I fell on a rock when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Broke all four of my teeth. Were you wiping your ass? Yeah. It's a thing that we do, okay? That was one of the best callbacks. You're not going to shit on his callback. All right? Don't.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Let him enjoy that. Let him get his applause. That was good. That's a good callback. And he deserves all the flowers. Now, this is when you broke your femur? How do you know this? What do you mean, how do I know this?
Starting point is 01:03:38 You think that I do research? I'm a fucking journalist, dude. I know you broke your femur in an accident that involved riding a bicycle. Motorcycle. Motorcycle, sorry. Yeah. And do you think
Starting point is 01:03:51 that it was your Asian part was responsible? Oh, buddy. This is another racial year. Racist thing. It went from
Starting point is 01:03:58 something very nice to do these racist things sometimes. What is happening right now? You were nice. You made me do that. I didn't do anything. I said bicycles so we could stay away from it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Now you're a victim. You brought in a motorized vehicle. And then you went. And my brain fucking went there. And then your brain went. Prejudice. No. No.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Prejudice. You got very specific. Filipino. You got very specific. That's what my brain did right there. My brain was Filipino right there. And I hear even to this day that if we poke around on that little thigh meat, that you're missing a little thigh meat.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I am missing thigh meat. Oh, is that true? Yeah, it's a fucking devastating injury at 14 years old, bro. Don't take those off the heart. How does he know this? What do you mean, how do I know? You don't think that I do research when we have incredibly important guests? Then tell me what kind of break I had.
Starting point is 01:04:40 What kind of break did I have? You broke your femur. Yeah, but what kind? Gluck-gluck? Compound fracture. A gluck-gluck. You had a gluck-gluck. Compound fracture. A gluck-gluck. You had a gluck-gluck. No, you did have a compound fracture.
Starting point is 01:04:48 It's absolutely crazy what happened to you. Like, the fact that your legs aren't even different lengths. I know. Like, usually at that age. No pins. What do you mean no pins? They didn't put any metal pins or anything. Well, then how did they set the bone if it was compound?
Starting point is 01:04:59 They stuck a pin through my shin and pulled it with weights for six months. Whoa. And just let it grow back together. When you said no pins before. Yeah. And you just chose to lie directly to my skin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How did that make you feel inside?
Starting point is 01:05:11 Yeah, there's no internal pins. That was an external pin. All right, Al. Yeah. I forgot I had to explain. You do. Everything. Listen, what did you say earlier?
Starting point is 01:05:21 I'm dumb. I said gluck, gluck. That's what you heard. That is what I heard. Okay, so you got lucky that that thing straightened out. Yeah. Okay. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Yeah. And now still some meat missing here. A lot of meat missing. Jesus. Jesus, dude. That's crazy, man. I know. I'm not pulling my pants down, Andrew.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Can I poke him? You want to? I want it. Can you make me a little pokey ball? Will you poke it? I will poke it. Will you poke it? I will poke it.
Starting point is 01:05:53 If you show me the place that's missing the meat, I will give you a little poke. I'll give you a little tickle. Do you still feel? Do you still have the nerves? Are you in touch with him? I'm sorry. What did you say? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:06:02 He was asking, what did you say? Would you still feel it? Do you still have the nerves intact and all that? No, I don't feel right sorry. No, no, no. He was asking, what did you say? Would you still feel it? Do you still have the nerves in the back and all that? No, I don't feel it right here. Wait, for real? Yeah. So like right here, just this area right here. I mean, it makes sense.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Do you want to touch it? Yeah. This is so creepy. No, it's not. Wait, are you going to... Okay, go. I just need you to get a little closer. With my mouth or with...
Starting point is 01:06:24 With your mouth. That's the only way I can I got it I'll get you in it It looks special We used the headliner man Come on Look look look See the whole leg's messed up
Starting point is 01:06:33 Oh shit You were about to take a bite out of that Yeah You are Filipino That's crazy I can't pull this down No you don't have to pull it down I mean I could just put my finger in it
Starting point is 01:06:41 But it's fine You want to put Go ahead put your finger in it But bend over though Bend over No okay That has nothing to do with the fracture You don't have to pull it down. I mean, I could just put my finger in it, but it's fine. Go ahead. Put your finger in it. But bend over, though. Bend over. No, okay. That has nothing to do with the fracture.
Starting point is 01:06:52 And I still don't feel it. It was my little finger. It was the little finger. Put another finger in it. Ooh, he does today. Okay. So, and I was told you never drove a motorcycle again. No, that's done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:07:12 And I don't think anyone should ride a motorcycle. Wait, you have one. No. You have one? This guy has a motorcycle. I have an electric bike. I don't like those either. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I don't like those either. Yeah. Yeah, young shifty. Oh, yeah, electric bike's fine. Electric bike you should. Yeah, young shifty. Oh, yeah. Electric bike's fine. Electric bike's fine. He motorcycles. Well, what happened in your accident?
Starting point is 01:07:30 Did someone hit you or did you? Yeah, I hit head on with another motorcycle. Another motorcycle. See, that's the issue. If someone else is riding a motorcycle, that's where it gets dangerous. Yeah. If it's just me, then there's no problem. No, no, no. There was two.
Starting point is 01:07:40 What the fuck are you talking about? That made no sense. I'm just saying, you crashed into another motorcycle. It seems like it was his fault. No, but it was... But what I'm saying is it doesn't matter... Yeah, but if it was a car, he'd be dead. If you're on a motorcycle, it doesn't matter whose fault it is.
Starting point is 01:07:50 It doesn't matter. You're always going to lose. Yep. You're on a motorcycle. What if you dodge out of the way? You're not going to dodge out of the way. That's why it's called an accident. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:07:58 If you go fast... No. No. This guy's ridiculous. If you turn the handlebars when the car's coming... I don't want you to die. I'm not going to die, okay? Whoa!
Starting point is 01:08:07 I'm going to die eventually. You know what I mean? Yeah, but it's going to be a lot sooner than you think. I already know by the way you're answering these questions. You just go like this really fast. Yeah, man, that's what you do. And that's what Evil did too. And what happened to him?
Starting point is 01:08:21 He fucking... He got cancer. Yeah. He died of cancer. And he was a great golfer, by the way. Is that true? Great, yeah. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:08:28 He actually made more money golfing than he did. Good driver. Yeah. He's going to die. So this is probably the last... I feel like you're going to kill me. See, this seems threatening. Now I'm nervous.
Starting point is 01:08:39 No, and you ride in the city? This is the worst place. This is the best place to drive. Everyone drives so slow. The guy's crazy. Yeah. He's actually a concern about us. Is there a helmet law here? Yeah. Okay, well, at least that.
Starting point is 01:08:50 But they don't want to keep his brain. They want to use the other body parts. What would you use from him? I'm going to donate all of it. Are you? Yeah, whatever you want. It's yours. Hair. I'll take the fucking thigh. I'll take the thigh meat. I might as well give you some now. I don't even know if I have to die for it. I'll take some of that. I'll take the thigh meat back. I might as well give you some now.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I don't even know if I have to die for it. Yeah, I'll take some of that. I'll give you a piece of that as we're talking. Yeah, I'll take that. Now, Joe, listen. We know that you have a very busy day, so obviously we're not going to take all your time here, but Alex was a nurse and experienced prejudice from our people
Starting point is 01:09:24 when he was a nurse. Did you know that? Mm-mm. You mean I'm Filipino. Are you really? Come on, we brothers are. I didn't know that. When did you also become Filipino?
Starting point is 01:09:34 I would go to the club, and then they looked at my sneakers. They're like, too specific. Oh, yeah. That happens. I've heard that that happens. It's a lot deeper than you think, man. It goes so deep, dude. It goes very deep.
Starting point is 01:09:47 And on that note, try another finger. I'm pretty sure there's feeling in there. This is the callback thing. Don't tempt me. I love it. Don't tempt me. You're going to stick me in my own bobblehead. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:01 I was going to do that. What's that for? I know this doesn't fit the theme of the interview, but there's a question I want to ask you. Yes. Okay. You were talking about algorithms.
Starting point is 01:10:08 I saw a story on TikTok, and I think it was about you doing Comic View and how you hustled your way onto Comic View. I thought it was the coolest fucking story. Can you tell that here
Starting point is 01:10:16 for this algorithm? So Comic View was on the road. That was my favorite show. Like, I don't even know how old you are. 38. I grew up watching Comic View. So you watched Comic View. Yeah. books you remember Showtime at the Apollo
Starting point is 01:10:26 you remember when cable kind of sucked and there wasn't that much shit on TV I bought the Def Comedy Jam cassettes they would send them to my house every month I was in so explain that to these kids now this was before I was Filipino so explain to these kids now
Starting point is 01:10:44 it's like I don't know how to explain it, but like a black comic didn't get the best rooms or the best nights. Right. You know what I mean? So when you had a successful show like Comic View, they weren't going to put it, and I lived in Vegas, they weren't going to put them and I lived in Vegas they weren't going to put them in Caesars they weren't going to put them in The Mirage
Starting point is 01:11:08 because they were black comics we're not ready for that yet I rarely saw black comics anywhere and so they put them in a restaurant and this is Comic View this is one of the biggest comedy shows on TV
Starting point is 01:11:22 I mean Martin Lawrence Cedric the Entertainer I remember finding out about the comic view. Everybody was going, Ricky Smiley. This thing pushed out stars. But for some reason in Vegas, they had to play a restaurant called Country Star, which was like a Planet Hollywood for country singers.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Wow. And when I found that out, I was working at Dolphin Habitat and I was already like, this was like 1997 or whatever, 96. How long had you been doing stand-up at this point? I was like seven years in or so. And I was already like booking these theaters.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I would rent theaters and sell tickets and shit. I would make my own tickets. I love this fucking hustler. I would cut tickets up and sell them. And then this girl that I was working with, she was like, you know, Comic View's here. I was like, what? Where? She's like, Country Star.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I'm like, what the fuck is it doing at Country Star? And I went to my manager and told her, I go, can I please just leave early? I want to go to Comic View. And she let me go home early. And I was a tour guide. So I was already covered in sweat. And all I wanted to do was go home and put this suit on that I bought, right? Because I remember Eddie Murphy said, always wear a suit.
Starting point is 01:12:32 He always wore a suit. And I was like, oh, okay. If you're going to do a big show, wear a suit. So I rushed home, got my suit. I had a – and I was still sweaty. It was awful. And I grabbed this fake resume, this resume that I made that I opened for all these people, and I played all these clubs across the country.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Everything was a lie, right? And then all I did were the local comedy clubs, the local shows that I did. And then I brought this to the front door. There was a long line wrapped around a country star, and I walked up to the security guard, and I go, hey, man, I'm a local comic, and I just want to see if I can talk to the promoter
Starting point is 01:13:10 and maybe just open the show up. And never has a security guard helped anybody, right? And the security guard goes, I'll be right back. And he went and got the promoter. And I still remember her name. Her name is Yvette Anderson. And she came up to the door, and then I go, hi, I'm a local comic.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Everybody knows me. Nobody knows me. And I go, I'd love to open the show. She goes, oh, we already got our comics. Show's about to start. I'll take your resume. Next time I come back, I'll consider you. She goes, you want to watch the show? I go, fuck yeah. That's sweet that she let you watch. Yeah, and she let me in. And she sat me down next to all
Starting point is 01:13:42 her equipment, and she had this thing called a Canon 3CCD camera. It was like beige and maroon. It was like a huge camera back then. I always wanted one, right? It was like a broadcast camera that they were selling. It was like $8,000 or some shit. And I saw it, and I remember, oh, shit, that's the camera I want.
Starting point is 01:13:58 And I was sitting next to it, and everybody was late, right? Black. Yeah. I'm not going to say. Well, you're Filipino. This has nothing to do with you. Yeah. I'm not going to say. Well, you're Filipino. This has nothing to do with you. Yeah. I'm on top of both of them.
Starting point is 01:14:09 So, yeah, yeah. So, everybody's late, and the crowd's booing. Because they were like 45 minutes late. The show was like at 8. It's like 8.45, almost 9. And they're all booing, like, start the fucking show. She walks up to me. She's like, do you want to do some time?
Starting point is 01:14:24 No. Wow. She goes, do you want to do some time? No. Wow. She goes, do you want to do some time? Because they're a little late right now. And I go, if you can record it with that camera right there, I'll go up. And she goes, let me set it up. And she set it up. And then she brought me on.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Now you're going up to booze, or are they happy that someone's going on stage? I remember the DJ. There was no host either. Yeah. And then the DJ goes, ladies and gentlemen, Joe Coy. And I walked out on stage. I walked out on stage, all black, all black people. It was just a black room, right?
Starting point is 01:14:54 And you're not at all what they're expecting. Not only are you- Yeah, they were there to see Bo Peay. And I forgot who else was on that show. But Bo Peay was the big one on there. He was like the host. And he was one of my favorites, by the way. I loved Bo Peep.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And then I went up and I smashed it, bro. I remember this back in the day when they used to raise the roof. Oh, it's fire. And they were all raised the roof. And then I started doing it. And I got it all on videotape. And then I walked off stage and Bo Peep was standing there. He's like, who the fuck is this?
Starting point is 01:15:25 And she goes, some local comic. He's like, who the fuck is this? And she goes, some local comic. He's like, yeah, but you ever watch Comic View? And I go, I love Comic View, and I love you, Bo. And he goes, you own Comic View. I go, what? He goes, next week. I'm going to make them call you next week. You're coming out to Comic View.
Starting point is 01:15:38 And I went on and did Comic View the following week. Holy shit. That's so sick. You know how I got Debt Jam? No. No. Hold on real quick on this story. Two things. One is I have that on tape still.
Starting point is 01:15:51 One, I want to see that. Two, do you remember what you opened with? That's the fucking, yeah. I'm always curious when people go up in harsh scenarios, what their first thing And to be honest, I bet you if we watched the tape, we're going to be like this is fucking awful. You know what I mean? But it was honest, I bet you if we watched the tape, we're going to be like, this is fucking awful. You know what I mean? But it was like,
Starting point is 01:16:07 I was like seven years in, you know what I'm saying? And it's the 90s. Comedy's changed so much. No, I don't remember what I... I don't even remember the set. You know, it's also interesting. People don't think about... Nobody knew Filipino comics in 96. So just the idea of you going up there
Starting point is 01:16:23 doing comedy, I'm sure the whole audience was like, what the fuck is this guy doing here? Yeah, it's crazy. So to smash in that environment is crazy, and the opening must have been a haymaker. Yeah, and it was so cool. Oh, man. Oh, never mind. This is comic for you, or this is this one? So then the show starts,
Starting point is 01:16:39 right, and the emcee goes up. It wasn't Bo Peep. I forgot. Bo Peep was the headliner. There was an emcee. It was a young comic. I forgot his name. And he went up after me. And I remember he was like, he didn't know I went up. So I'm just sitting in the audience. And then he starts doing his set.
Starting point is 01:16:57 And no one's laughing. He's like, god damn, none of you motherfuckers laughing? What do I got to do to make you laugh? And this black chick goes, put that Asian motherfucker back on stage. Let's go. And they all went crazy. That was cool, man. And then that's how I got
Starting point is 01:17:10 the Black College Comedy Tour because I did BET's Comic View and then I did the Black College Comedy Tour. And that's how I met Gary Owen and Honest John. And I was opening for like B-Flat and Samar.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I love B-Flat. And Melanie Camacho, Michael Blackson. I was opening for J B-Flat and Samar. I love B-Flat. And Melanie Camacho, Michael Blackson. Yeah. I was opening for J.B. Smooth. Yeah. And I was bringing them to Vegas in like 98, 99. I was bringing them to Vegas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:36 And I had the, and Honest John goes, he goes, I want to get you on Def Jam, man. I don't understand why they haven't said anything. I want to introduce you to Bob Sumner. Yeah. I go, all right, cool. And I was working at like, I'm going to get you on Def Jam, man. I don't understand why they haven't said anything. I'm going to introduce you to Bob Sumner. I go, all right, cool. And I was working at like, I forgot, some hotel. And he goes, all right, we're coming. And by the way, this was Def Jam on the road, right?
Starting point is 01:17:58 And it was at another country place called Sam's Town on Boulder Highway. They wouldn't put it on the strip. That's what they were doing to like black comics. It was crazy. So I go to Sam's town on Boulder Highway and I'm sitting and my sister's with me Rowena
Starting point is 01:18:10 and then her fiance and I remember I got this camera and I go please whatever you do record this set I need this set and so now I'm backstage
Starting point is 01:18:17 and Bob Sumner walks up to me with Rudy Rush you know Rudy Rush yeah Rudy's funny dude yeah he used to host the Showtime at the Apollo yeah he's out of Dallas Yeah, he used to host the Showtime at the Apollo. Yeah, he's out of Dallas. But he was the host of
Starting point is 01:18:27 Showtime at the Apollo. He took over for Steve Harvey. Funny. And now he's hosting Def Jam this night. My bad. He didn't come backstage yet. It was just Bob Sumner and Honest John. And Bob walks up to me and he's like, Honest John. He's eating. I remember he was eating. He's like, Honest John speaks
Starting point is 01:18:43 highly of you. I'm like, yeah. He goes, all right, this is what we're going to do. We're going to let you go up with the house lights on because they're still sitting in the room. And we're not going to open the curtain. We're just going to open up a little bit. And you walk through the curtain, close the curtain behind you. Don't say, welcome to Def Jam. Just do your set.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And then just say goodnight in your name and then walk back through. Don't say anything about Def Jam. He didn't want me to be affiliated with Def Jam just in case I bombed, right? And then he walks off and I'm looking at my sister like, I don't want to fucking eat shit. Why am I even going to go out there? This is awful. It's like he's playing you a little bit. Yeah, it's like 2,000
Starting point is 01:19:18 people. It's like lights still on. They're still seating. They're still talking. Yeah, it was awful. And then I remember the stage manager walked up to me goes, hey, man, we're at like 70% capacity. I'm going to bring the house lights down a little bit for you. He goes, but I can't open those curtains up. He goes, I can't do
Starting point is 01:19:33 that, but I'll bring the house lights down. House lights is bigger than a curtain. Yeah, right? So literally, this is what happens. There's two guys holding the curtain and I'm standing there like this. My sister's like, I'm going to kill it. Kill it. You're going to kill it. And they open the curtain, and I crawl through.
Starting point is 01:19:49 And I'm like, hi, everyone. And it's just, everyone's like, hey. And I just go into my act, and like standing O, right? Wow. And then they start stomping. You can hear them stomping in the bleachers. And then I crawl back through the curtain, and it's Bob Sumner, Honest John, and Rudy Rush, who's the host. And Rudy Rush goes, man, who the fuck is this guy?
Starting point is 01:20:13 And he goes, that's Honest John's friend. He goes, what the fuck did you put him on now? He goes, what the fuck, man? You should have put him on the show. I got to go up after this shit? Oh, it's so sick. And then he goes, I didn't know this motherfucker was funny. They're saying this in front of me as if I'm not there.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my sister's crying like, oh, my God. You killed it. You fucking killed it. And then I swear to God, just like Bo Peay, Rudy looked at me and he goes, we're doing a comedy showcase on Showtime at the Apollo. You want to do it? I go, yeah, I want to do it.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And he goes, how my people call you? And he goes, and you're going to be on Showtime at the Apollo. You want to do it? I go, yeah, I want to do it. And he goes, how my people call you? And he goes, and you're going to be on Showtime at the Apollo. And then literally like a month later, I was on Showtime at the Apollo. Get the fuck out of here. And then I won Showtime at the Apollo. Fuck! Is that set on YouTube still? Yeah. And that's how I won
Starting point is 01:20:59 Showtime at the Apollo. Did you rub the wood for good luck? You want to know what's crazy? People don't know this either is I was doing these shows, right? But I didn't have any money because I was working at like, you know, like, I was taking an odd job.
Starting point is 01:21:12 So I was renting theaters and all this shit and I was getting sponsors to pay for it. So the back of the ticket would be blank, right? So I would go to Kinko's and put A to a page
Starting point is 01:21:22 and cut them up, right? So the front would say Joe Coy's Comedy Jam and then the back is blank. And I was like, ooh, I can make those into coupons and sell that as advertisement, right? So I walked up and down the street on Charleston Boulevard, right? If you're ever on Maryland Parkway in Charleston, there's a theater there called, in Vegas, it's called the Huntridge Theater. And it's not in the best place, right? It's pretty bad. So I'm walking up and down all these stores, and I'm just like, hey, I'm doing a show at the Hunt Ridge, and I just want to know, can you sponsor me?
Starting point is 01:21:52 I'd love for you to put your advertisement on the back of these tickets. It's already sold out, 800 people. You know what I mean? We could put your, you put like a discount coupon on here, and I'll charge you like a bucket ticket. And everyone kept saying no, and I got to this oil place. I still remember it was like an auto repair shop and I just I don't know why I just walked in and I just go hey I'm doing a show
Starting point is 01:22:12 down the street, Hunt Ridge Theater and I'd love to like sell the back of this ticket make it like a half off coupon for an oil change or whatever be like a bucket ticket that's already sold out to 800 people and he goes, all right. I go, what?
Starting point is 01:22:27 He goes, yeah, 800 bucks. All right, cool. His name was Paul Ogata. And I remember he grabbed a book of company checks and he wrote it out, Joe Coy Entertainment LLC. And he wrote 800 bucks. And I remember my mouth dropped like, holy fuck, he just paid for the venue.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I was like, what the fuck? And he ripped that check out. I couldn't believe it, man. And at this point, you hadn't sold any tickets. No. No, I haven't. But I knew I'd sell it out, though. You could get it.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Oh, yeah, I knew I would sell it out. Yeah, yeah. And then I was a fan of— How were you selling it out? Sorry. I was just good, man. I was good at, like, telling people to buy tickets. So you would go on the street, hey, come buy tickets.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Well, no, no, no, because people knew me from coffee houses. So so I knew that and then I was opening for people at Catch a Rising Star and and like Catch a Rising Star would give me two-for-one tickets and I would hand them out to my friends and like on a weekend show it'd be packed but it was all the two-for-one tickets that I handed out and I'm like well why am I giving this headline all this money it's me so then I started renting theaters and I was like I'm gonna take this money You're paying me 50 bucks a night, but I'm packed in the room. You know what I mean? So then I started renting out theaters and, uh, and that's how I started selling that shit out. And I was a big fan of Dada Footwear. Do you remember Dada Footwear? So Biggie would wear a hat, the tight hat and like LL Cool J would wear it. Yeah, they sponsored Chris Webber,
Starting point is 01:23:40 I think. So yeah, no, I was there during that production. And there's this thing called the Magic Convention. It's the men's apparel convention in Vegas. It's huge, right? Yeah, yeah. It's huge. And my friends were B-boys
Starting point is 01:23:54 and I used to throw B-boy events, right? It was called... Anyway... What's it called? Illest in the Game. Okay. And they were huge.
Starting point is 01:24:02 That's why I know the Jabberwockies. That's why if you watch In His Elements on Netflix, the B-Boy segment, the guy that's doing it, Ronnie, I've known him for 20 years. Oh, wow. And we opened for Snoop Dogg together, right, at the Blaisdell. That's so fucking sick. So, like, where I shot Coming in Hot at the Blaisdell, I opened for Snoop Dogg 25 years before that.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Blaisdell, I opened for Snoop Dogg 25 years before that. Snoop and Ludacris were 40 minutes late and they kept making me go back on stage. They wrote an article about me like, Joe Coy saved the Snoop Dogg show. I still have the article cut out. It was so crazy that the guy that wrote that
Starting point is 01:24:38 article wrote the article for my Blaisdell Netflix special. Black people's lack of punctuality has done so much for your career. Yo, right? It's really crazy. So these B-Boys, they were dancers
Starting point is 01:24:50 and they were like my friends. They were always doing my shows. And they had a gig with Tribal Streetwear. So they would dance at the booths, right, during the convention. And I knew Dada was in there because I was checking in.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I was such a big fan of the hat, right? And I was working the front desk at this place called Alexis Park. And this guy came up and he's paying for all the wounds in cash, right? Young black guy, right? Maybe 25 years old. And he's paying all the wounds in cash. And I looked it up and his name was Damani. And it said Dada Supreme. And I'm like, oh shit, that's that hat. And by the way, this is back in the day when there was no internet. So if you fell in love with that hat that Biggie was wearing, you had to find someone that lived in New York to get it for you.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Because you're not going to find it on, there's no internet. Or go through a magazine, you know what I mean? Like Source or something to see if it's in the back and maybe call the store. So I wanted that hat so bad, right? And I just looked at it and I go, yo, how's it working for that company? And he goes, oh, I love it. I love it. And he's paying for all the rooms cash. It's like 10 rooms cash. I go, damn, that's incredible, man. I love that hat. Biggie wears that hat. I want that hat. How do I get that hat? He goes, I'll get you a hat. I go, really? Oh, that's dope, man. Like, what do you do?
Starting point is 01:26:08 He goes, I own it. I'm like, what? Yeah, that's crazy. I go, what? He goes, yeah, I own it. His name was Damani. I forget his last name, Damani. And he sent his assistant.
Starting point is 01:26:18 She brought me all this merch. And I always remember what he looked like, right? And when my show started popping off, I was like, I'm going to walk up to him again and tell him about my show. So my friends were B-boys and they were doing tribal street wear, the booth. And the lanyards to get in were like five, 600 bucks to get in
Starting point is 01:26:38 and they had two. So they both went in and then he would take the other dudes and come back out and gave it to me. And I literally stood by the Dada booth for four fucking days I literally went every single day until he came and he finally came
Starting point is 01:26:55 and I saw him and I go that's that dude and I walked right in that booth and I go hey man I met you he gave me the hat and he goes oh yeah I remember you and I go yeah I told you I did comedy shows and he goes did you call Carlos because he gave me Carlos the. He goes, oh, yeah, I remember you. I go, yeah, I told you I did comedy shows. He goes, did you call Carlos? Because he gave me Carlos, the marketing guy, his name and number. And I go, I called, but he never picked up.
Starting point is 01:27:11 And he goes, oh, Carlos. And then Carlos pops up. He pops up from behind the rack. And he looks up. He goes, man, get over here. He goes, this dude I was talking about, he's a comedian. I met him at the hotel, blah, blah, blah. He goes, this dude I was telling you about, he's a comedian. I met him at the hotel, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:27:26 He's got a comedy show. And then Carlos is like, I'm sorry, man. I never got back to you. He goes, load him up with whatever he wants. So I walk out of the convention with a bunch of shit and then Carlos,
Starting point is 01:27:35 who's my friend to this day, one of my best friends, he goes, call me, man, because we want to do a comedy show and we'll sponsor you. And he goes, I'm sorry about that, man.
Starting point is 01:27:44 We've just been really busy because they were blowing up. They got the Chris Webber deal. They got the Snoop deal. They were doing big shit. And he goes, just come, come to the office. So I drove there in my Honda Prelude with one broken taillight, drove there, 2nd Avenue, Los Angeles street. You know what I'm talking about? The garment district. And I remember I made this fake price sheet. I made like a fake price sheet for a comedy show. You know what I mean? And I was sitting there. I was so nervous, man, because I thought I was asking for too much money.
Starting point is 01:28:10 I think it was like $5,000 for this comedy show. Because he's like, just give us a breakdown, and we'll see if we can sponsor it. He goes, Lance is a huge comedy fan. Lance is the other owner. He owns the footwear department. This is so much information. You can cut it down. You got four cameras to cut from.
Starting point is 01:28:26 And I'm sitting downstairs, right? I got this whatever it is that I made, this price sheet, and then this big, good-looking black guy. The biggest Afro bro. It's massive. He's got light blue glasses on, sunglasses, light blue. Everything was light blue all the way to the toes. And I hand him my thing. He goes, I'm Lance.
Starting point is 01:28:48 He goes, what's up, Lance? And he sits down. He goes, yeah, I'm a big fan. He goes like this. And he goes, so is this the price? I go, yeah. He goes, all right, cool. We'll do it.
Starting point is 01:28:59 And he put it down. And I go, that's it? He goes, yeah, man. Let's do this. I go, oh, shit. I should have asked for more. And I walked, that's it? He goes, yeah, man. Let's do this. I go, oh, shit. I should have asked for more. And I walked out of there. And from that day on, I was sponsored by Dada Footwear.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Like, from like 98 to like 2000 whatever. Just doing comedy shows. The American Express corporate card, like, they gave me like an authorization form or whatever. So I could charge it, all the hotel rooms. Get out of here. All the comics, yeah. That's so sick, man. And then all the flights, they would book it for me.
Starting point is 01:29:30 So when you see me do Showtime at the Apollo, you'll see me wearing that hat that Biggie wore, this tight hat. Yeah. That's because Dada paid for me to fly to do Showtime at the Apollo. That's so fucking crazy. Isn't that nuts? And at that same magic convention, that's where you met the Jabberwocky? No, no. I knew Jabberwocky because I was throwing B-Boy events.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those B-Boy events I was throwing, this is back when they were like 10, 11, 12. So when they're kids. I knew them when they were kids. So I knew all those B-Boy. I'm a B-Boy, bro. You and Russell seem like kindred spirits to me. You and Russell Peters.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Yeah, man. For real. You and Russell Peters. Yeah, man. For real. Like, he's a DJ. Yeah. But just in the hip-hop culture, Hustler's been doing it for a minute. Yeah, got your respect, doing fucking arenas. Like, yeah, you guys seem like kindred spirits to me. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, right? It's crazy how that all came full circle. They're 12 years old, or 10 or 12 years old, and then you see them explode. Yeah, but when I met Ronnie, he was like 16, 17. came full circle. They're 12 years old or 10 or 12 years old and then you see them explode. Yeah, but when I met, when I met Ronnie, he was like 16,
Starting point is 01:30:28 17, you know, he's with Full Force. He's like, he's like Red Bull BC1 champ. Like he's, he's the coach, he's the coach
Starting point is 01:30:34 for the Olympics now. But when I met him, he was 16, like 27 years ago. So these guys were already very established within the B-Boys. No, no,
Starting point is 01:30:42 they weren't. They were just kids. They were B-Boys. But you said, now they blew up. Oh, but you said when you met him, he was already sponsored by Red Bull. No, no, they weren't. They were just kids. They were B-Boys. Now they blew up. Oh, but you said when you met him, he was already sponsored by Red Bull. No, no, no, no, no. Now he's sponsored by Red Bull. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:53 But when we were just on the come up, like when I was trying to do stand up. And by the way, the shows I did at the Hunt Ridge always had B-Boys. And so, like, I got footage of all that shit. When are you going to put on a doc? Yeah. I should, huh? You have all these. i have it all man we're we're working on it but like yeah people don't that'd be a really i mean that footage alone from yeah it's crazy apollo or comic view any of those would be i got footage jb smooth smash when no one knew no i'm talking like when no one knew yeah but jb's When no one knew. No, I'm talking like when no one knew. Yeah, but JB's. But no one knew. Another planet.
Starting point is 01:31:26 But you don't understand. No one knew. Like, this was like in the 90s. It might be the hardest I've ever laughed. No one was fucking with, huh? It might be the hardest I've ever laughed. I saw it. I remember.
Starting point is 01:31:35 I'm telling you. I opened for him at a, I was on this thing called the Black College Comedy Tour. Yeah, you were saying. And like, I was the other. So the roster was a bunch of black comics. You were the college. Yeah, you were the college part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, I was the other. So the roster was a bunch of black comics. You were in college. Yeah, you were in the college part. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:49 I was college. So it was like, they had the book. They had to have diversity, right? You couldn't put two black comics on one show because there's too many black people. You know what I mean? At the college, that's too many. We need diversity.
Starting point is 01:32:03 And they were like, oh, we got diversity. What do you got? You have an Asian guy? We got Joe Coy. And they were like, oh, we got diversity. What do you got? You have an Asian guy? We got Joe Coy. Do you have a white guy? Joe Coy. Do you got a Latino guy?
Starting point is 01:32:11 Joe Coy. So I was like all the others. It was like me, Honest John, and Gary Owen doing it. I saw JB in like 07, so it was later, but it was on a show
Starting point is 01:32:21 with David Arnold hosting, rest in peace to David Arnold, by the way. Kevin Hart was there, I think D-Ray came through, and then they had J.B. Smoove close it out, and I was like heaven, this guy closed it out? Who is this guy? And he fucking lit the room on fire.
Starting point is 01:32:34 It was in like Englewood or something. What year was that? It was like 07, 08 maybe. Oh, you're talking about the casino. Maybe, maybe. That's crazy. Those were fun times by the way. He set it on fire. Like Cat in the Hat's room and all that? Yeah, maybe. I think it was Cat in the Hat. He did the leaning shit about the stone shoes. That Like Cat in the Hat's room and all that? Yeah, I think it was Cat in the Hat. He did the leaning shit about the gold shoes. That's Cat in the Hat.
Starting point is 01:32:48 That was back in the day-day. Those were fun nights. Yeah. Yeah, those were cool. Now, here's a question I have for you. By the way, Cat in the Hat for everyone watching, that's Cat Williams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He used to go by Cat in the Hat.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Yeah. Here's a question I have. I thought you were L.A. this whole time. Yeah. And then I looked up Wikipedia. It says you grew up in Tacoma, but I'm looking at you now. You got an L.A. hat. You you were L.A. this whole time. Yeah. And then I looked up Wikipedia. It says you grew up in Tacoma. But I'm looking at you now. You got an L.A. hat.
Starting point is 01:33:08 You got an L.A. tat. Yeah. Why you rep L.A. so hard? I mean, I'm not accusing you. I lived there for 22 years. But you feel like I'm an L.A. guy? Because that's just interesting. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:17 L.A. is everything. But you started comedy in Vegas. Yeah. I started comedy in Vegas. And went to Vegas to do comedy? No, I went there because my grandmother was, she had cancer. Oh, shit. So we all moved there to be with my grandmother. And thank God
Starting point is 01:33:30 because that's where my sister, because my sister's a singer, and I wanted to do stand-up so bad, I just didn't know how to get in. I would call, I would call every comedy club every week, at least twice a week, right? Because, you know, this back in the day, no internet. So I would just call.
Starting point is 01:33:45 And the only guy that would pick up was the comedy club at the Riviera. And it was called the comedy club at the Riviera. And I would call him. And he was like, hey, what's going on? And I was like, hey, I'm a comic. I'm local. I'm like 18. I was like, I'd love to just open the show, man.
Starting point is 01:34:00 I got some stuff I think you'd like. I don't have anything. I don't even know what to say on the phone. He goes, do you have the tape? I go, I don't have a tape, but I know I'd kill it, man. I got some stuff I think you'd like. I don't have anything. I don't even know what to say on the phone. He goes, do you have a tape? I go, I don't have a tape, but I know I'd kill it, man. I'm really funny. He's like, hey, look, call me back when you got a tape. And I would do it every fucking week,
Starting point is 01:34:15 and I would try and change my voice. And then one time, I swear to God, it's a true story. And then one time, he goes, this is like after the 12th time of me calling, he goes, hey, kid, I know it's you. He goes, look, you need tape. Stop calling me. Go to Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Work the rooms. Get in. You'll get a TV show or something. You know, maybe the Tonight Show will call you and get that tape. Get that tape. Then you pass it around to all the comedy clubs. All right, kid? All right.
Starting point is 01:34:47 All right. Bye. Bye. Click. Steve Schripper. Get the fuck out of here. The Sopranos. So Steve, that's right.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Steve was the booker of the fuck. I did the hockey show with him. You know the hockey show? He's one of the Sopranos. Steve Schripper. Oh, shit. Yeah. And he remembered me calling him. Yeah, he's big pussy. Hockey show with him. You know the hockey show? He's one of the Sopranos. Steve Schrepper. Yeah. And he remembered me calling him.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Yeah, he's big pussy. Yeah. Oh, shit. Pretty sure, big pussy, yeah. And Steve, that's right, Steve was the booker at the fucking RIV. It was called the RIV back then.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Yeah, the RIV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Comedy club at the RIV. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. And he remembered me calling. Bro, you don't understand. I would call like twice,
Starting point is 01:35:24 like twice a day sometimes and try and change my voice. Is there a fallout? I'd like to come in. Hi there. Can I ask you something? Woody the woodpecker is on the line. Are you the man?
Starting point is 01:35:35 I'm trying to do material. I do voices. Did you ever get up there? Never got up. Fuck. Never got up. But. Never got up. But he remembered me, man. He was talking to my manager at the time.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Yeah. And when he found out that I was from Vegas, he goes, I think that's the kid that called me all the time. And then I confirmed. I go, yeah, that was me. Fucking A. Called all the fucking time, man. Fucking A. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:02 And the only reason why I started getting on stage is because my sister was doing this thing. There was this thing called Star Mania. It was like a bootleg Star Search. Okay. And I went to go watch her because my sister could sing. She was amazing. And I was watching her and there was a comic that went up.
Starting point is 01:36:19 And my sister didn't even know that I wanted to get up on stage. And she looked at me and she goes, oh my God, you're so much funnier than him. didn't even know that I wanted to get up on stage. And she looked at me, she goes, oh my God, you're so much funnier than him. And I literally went home and I go, okay, this is how I'm going to do it. I'm not going to call Steve anymore.
Starting point is 01:36:33 And I called that number. And I didn't even tell my sister that I was on the same competition as her. And then I had to pencil in my mustache because I was 18. And these competitions were in bars. Oh, you had to be 21. Yeah, you had to pencil in my mustache because I was 18. And these competitions were in bars. Oh, you had to be 21. Yeah, you had to be 21. So I penciled in my mustache and I wore a tie.
Starting point is 01:36:52 And it's on Eastern and Tropicana. And the stage is still there, by the way, this bar. I just went in there recently. It's still there. How did you do in the competition? Oh, I lost to this Lionel Richie impersonator. And he was so good. He sounded like Lionel Richie impersonator. And he was so good, right? He sounded like Lionel Richie. And I bombed. It was so bad. That's your first time on stage?
Starting point is 01:37:11 That was my first time, yeah. And I sat down next to him. I remember I couldn't get off stage. You know how you bomb so bad, you just keep going? I've done that. For some reason, you just keep going. I've done that. I got to get a laugh, and it just wasn't happening. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, right? Yeah. And then I sat down next to him and he goes, and I remember I go, oh, God,
Starting point is 01:37:29 I go, that sucked, man. I go, I don't know why I'm doing this shit. And then he goes, hey, you may have bombed tonight, but I will say this, you got good stage presence. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:38 That's what he said to me. He goes, you look good on stage, man. You handled yourself well. And if he didn't say that, man, I probably would have quit. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I swear to you. Because it stage, man. You handled yourself well. And if you didn't say that, man, I probably would have quit. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I swear to you.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Because it was so bad. It was horrific. I remember I wrote this long set list and it disappeared. It disappeared the minute I went on stage. I remember clearly like it just all left. I remember practicing all day what I was going to say and how I was going to say it. I remember in my head I visualized some guy going, you're not going to believe it,
Starting point is 01:38:07 but we got the next Eddie Murphy here. No, listen, listen right now. You see what I'm saying? They won't stop laughing. None of that shit happened. Oh, fuck. But that little inkling of hope
Starting point is 01:38:20 from the guy propelled you. Yeah. I was talking about condoms and my mouth got so chalky that my tongue kept sticking to the roof of my mouth. Oh, Yeah. I was talking about condoms, and my mouth got so chalky that my tongue kept sticking to the roof of my mouth. Oh, God. I was doing this, like that, and I was trying to get off,
Starting point is 01:38:31 and I was like, God, your mouth ever gets so dry, your tongue sticks to the roof of your mouth? And I did a condom joke at the beginning of the set, and it was so stupid, right? Condoms don't fit me. It's just dumb, right? Hacky shit.
Starting point is 01:38:44 And then, I fucking said that. And the lady at the bar goes, put a condom on it. And fucking killed. Annihilate. Crush. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Have a good night. We're here all week. I wave her over, we both bow. Dude, a heckle when you're bombing is the most devastating. Devastating. A good heckle, fuck, you're done. I'm done. You're done done. And that's how I close it with her.
Starting point is 01:39:15 She closed it. Wow. Yeah. Fucking A, man. What a journey. Yeah, man. And now arenas. And volcanoes.
Starting point is 01:39:22 And volcanoes. Volcanoes. The volcano tour. So fucking cool, man. You really earned every ounce of it. Ah, thank you. The volcano tour. So fucking cool, man. You really earned every ounce of it. Ah, thank you. That's wild. You're always going to make it.
Starting point is 01:39:30 It wasn't an option. Like, I can't imagine a reality where you don't make it. You know what I mean? Oh, thanks, man. It's actually really, I think it's great for people to hear these types of stories, especially like how industrious you were. Yeah. Because oftentimes they just see the success.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Yeah. Right? And then they're just going to go, oh, okay, well, if I'm funny, then somebody's going to recognize me
Starting point is 01:39:50 and then somebody's going to put me in a volcano and then people show up. Yeah. It's not 30 years of like doing your own fucking shows
Starting point is 01:39:56 and putting on the suit and just hoping to get called. Hoping, calling every single day, sitting around for four hours every single day to get your Dada sponsorship.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Like, there's so much fucking grind that goes into this. Was there any other time you thought you were going to quit? Yeah, 2015 when they said no to me. Really? When Netflix said no. Yeah. Really? I was really depressed. Do you know why, though? Because you're making
Starting point is 01:40:18 so much money. I really wanted to quit comedy because I was just, okay, it's not going to happen. Like, it's done. But what's not? I'm 40. At that time, I was 2015.
Starting point is 01:40:31 I was, what, 45? But what's not going to happen? And I'm just like. It was already happening. Well, I just felt like. You're still in the 1% of comics. Yeah. You're doing 20 sold-out shows in a weekend.
Starting point is 01:40:41 I mean, that's insane. That's crazy money. Yeah, with no special. So you were validating yourself with the special. I just felt like, well, one, I knew that's what I needed
Starting point is 01:40:51 to propel me to that next level. Like, I didn't want to do 20 nights at a comedy club. Right, right, right. You know? I was doing it because I had to. Right. Because, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:00 selling 300 tickets to me was easy. Right. You know what I mean? So you just kept doing it. Like, I wanted to be able to do 2,000. I wanted to do Chicago theater. I have a videotape of me working, doing three and a half weeks at the Schaumburg Improv.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Schaumburg Improv. Schaumburg is, it's like a suburb outside of Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It completely sold. And it's a massive room. Big improv. It was like two and a half weeks. It was like 19 shows or something, right?
Starting point is 01:41:25 Too long to be in Schaumburg. Yeah. Two and a half weeks you don't need to be in Schaumburg. Yeah, you literally fly back for two days because you shouldn't
Starting point is 01:41:34 be in Schaumburg at a mall, right? And I remember just like doing press, right? Oh, by the way, another secret for all you comics that are coming up,
Starting point is 01:41:42 do fucking press. Yeah. Do it. Doesn't matter if you're sold out. up, do fucking press. Do it. Doesn't matter if you're sold out. Doesn't matter who the fuck you are. Do press. Do it all. Do radio, TV, everything.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Doesn't matter if you're sold out. Not everybody in that town knows you're there. Not everybody in that town knows who the fuck you are. So just do it. Like, I don't know, you're the only one that's going to sell yourself. Yeah. So I can be sold out. I'm still going to go do the radio. I posted this the other day.
Starting point is 01:42:10 I saw this great thing about Tyler, the creator. Yeah. And he goes, I don't know. I want to get it up because I'm going to butcher it. But he basically is like, I don't know what's up with these people who don't promote themselves. I don't know if they don't believe in their own shit.
Starting point is 01:42:22 But he's like, you put a lot of time, a lot of thought, your heart and soul into a creation, and now it's ready and you're not gonna push it do you not believe in the creation do you not believe in yourself like do you think that's what it makes you so thirsty like what the fuck is wrong with you guys i don't get it if you built it put it out there and tell people it's out there and it was so beautiful to see someone who is like ultimate indie grind who i I respect like crazy in terms of not only music ability but his ability to promote, to see him get behind promoting. Yeah. You should. I don't understand that.
Starting point is 01:42:54 If you open up a coffeehouse, you're going to promote your coffeehouse because you want to sell coffee. One thing about comics, we have no overhead. There's no chairs. There's no stools. There's no coffee. We are the stools. There's no coffee. We are the business. So you have to promote your business. So I don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:43:10 When my movie came out, you know what I mean? I flew to how many cities did I fly to? Ten. Ten. Ten in ten days. I flew out of my own money. Not Universal's money. Not Amblin's money.
Starting point is 01:43:23 My money. Tell Spielberg to cough it up, bro. He's flush. He's flush. God bless Steven Spielberg. He's a big fan, right? Dude, the way I got that deal was crazy. It was nuts.
Starting point is 01:43:36 We get a phone call. Was he one of the Jabberwockies? Did he take off the mask and it was Steven Spielberg? Steven used to open for me. Yeah, it was crazy. It was Ludacris was late. And Stephen was like, I got this. And then he just floated out.
Starting point is 01:43:59 But no, we get a phone call right after coming in hot, my second one. And we go to Amblin. I thought it was a development meeting, right, where you just talk, you know what I mean? Or a general, I'm sorry, a general meeting. Waste of time. And just, yeah, I'll tell you about me, you tell me about you, and then we leave and pretend that never happened. Pretend you're talking to me. Yeah, yeah. And that's what usually happens in these meetings.
Starting point is 01:44:22 And then I go there, and the minute the door opens, like every single person is like, Stephen's such a huge fan, man. So happy to meet you finally. Stephen this, Stephen that. Oh, my God, Stephen can't stop talking about you. Stephen loves your special. And then I get to the meeting, and it's like Jeb and Holly, the two execs, and then right away they're like, Stephen can't stop talking about you.
Starting point is 01:44:43 And I'm like, hey, look, are you talking about Stephen from accounting? Like literally. Yeah, because it's like there's no fucking way. And I tell this story all the time because literally that's exactly how I felt. There's no way Mr. Spielberg is a fan of mine. There's no fucking way. And they're like, no, Mr. Spielberg wants to make a movie with you. Do you have an idea?
Starting point is 01:45:04 Is there a movie idea you want to pitch? And I pitched Easter Sunday, and it was that fast, man. They just said yes, green light. They said yes, and then script yes, and then he was involved every step of the way, man. Wow. From picking the director, picking the cast, everything. Wow. It was all him.
Starting point is 01:45:18 That's so cool. And do you want to keep acting? Oh, I love it. You like acting? I really want to get behind that camera, man. You want to direct, huh? I love it, man. I love it. There's something about it. Like, I like pulling, I like pulling certain things out of people. Like, I enjoy it. Like, I can see it, and I, you know? Yeah. Like, I, like,
Starting point is 01:45:37 like, I'll watch things, and it's not like I'm watching it to enjoy. I'm watching it because I'm trying to break it down. I'm pretty sure you do the same thing. Yeah. You critique things. You're like, you get frustrated when you see it. Like, I don't know how many times I'll watch something and go, fuck, why'd you do that? Yeah. You didn't have to do that. Or I'll get mad at the camera.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Why didn't they go wide on that one? Yeah. Why didn't they follow him? What happened to the fucking back shot? Like, god damn. Now, do you still have that thing that wants, because you got your own movie now, but do you still have that thing that wants the industry acceptance? Because 2015, you're making good money, but you're about to quit because you can't sell a special. I was eating dinner with your managers, and they were telling me you were doing a sitcom.
Starting point is 01:46:13 And I was like, why? It's so much work. You're probably making so much more money doing the thing you truly love with no suits telling you what notes are. Is it this thing you still need? It's the thing of what I said earlier. It's like, it's making my mom proud. Is she not already? No, it's like...
Starting point is 01:46:32 That Asian mom's a hard boy. No, but it's just like... He knows. No, but what I'm trying to get at, man, is like, it's hard to explain to people. No, it's not. You know, we all get it. We know that this is kind of a fucked up country that we live in,
Starting point is 01:46:47 and it's starting to turn for the better. We got younger minds now that are thinking a little bit better, but they didn't see the hardship that my mom went through. I tell this story all the time. When my mom and dad divorced and we just wanted to color TV and we were at Sears filling out these raffle tickets. Like, I think she made me, Robert, and Gemma. We just adopted Gemma.
Starting point is 01:47:11 You know what I mean? She just came to this country. And then Rowena, we're just filling out these raffle tickets, man. We were going at it for like three hours. And I think all these other families saw us do it. But we just loaded up this fucking raffle drum. And we had about 1,000 raffle tickets in it. And we just wanted that TV. And we tickets in it. We just won that TV.
Starting point is 01:47:26 And we fucking won it. We won that TV. And we had to go up the stairs. And everyone was claiming the prizes, going up the escalator. And my mom loves kids, right? This is like 1982-ish, 83-ish. And we're going up the escalator. And my mom loves little kids.
Starting point is 01:47:40 And she saw this little white kid, right? And she goes, oh, hi. She loves it. Like, oh, my god, hi. What's your name? What's your name? And this fucking kid turns around and she saw this little white kid right and she goes oh hi she loves it like oh my god hi what's your name what's your name and this fucking kid turns around and goes like this and we all rose like i i didn't even know what the fuck that was i was a military kid so that type of racism we didn't really see because we're all mixed you know i mean like i've seen tiger woods before i know what that is that's a black man with an Asian woman or I know what I look like I'm a white dad with an Asian like we we don't know it's normal so now now that my mom
Starting point is 01:48:17 and dad's divorced and we're not on the base and now we're at a mall in America we just came from the Philippines and this kid pulls his eyes back and then my mom not reacting in any way because back then, if she does, she's in trouble. Oh, wow. What are you yelling at that kid for? He's just joking around, lady. You fucking go back to your country. Oh, wow. And that's the type of racism that my mom has to deal with. That's why they're submissive. How does she respond? Even though my mom will fuck up all of you in this room, my mom's got a mouth on her. But
Starting point is 01:48:49 imagine that environment. Like, I know my mom, but she froze. And then we all froze. And I was just like, yo, and I remember, I think I was like 11 or whatever, 12, and I was just like, the fuck was that? And my mom was like, no, no, no, don't worry. He's just being funny, Joseph. He's, no, don't worry. He's just being funny, Joseph.
Starting point is 01:49:05 He's being funny. Don't worry. Like that. So when you see that shit, that's why you do the TV show. Ah. You're getting emotional thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Because maybe that's your way of making some change. And then somebody else's mom doesn't have to go through that same thing. There you go. So when they say, are you going to do that accent again? Motherfucker, I'm going to do 53 years of that accent.
Starting point is 01:49:35 You should. Wow, we got all emotional shit. That's beautiful, man. But that's what that is. So when you hear shit like that, you're just like, God damn. Shut the fuck up. There's people that live in this country that aren't heard.
Starting point is 01:49:53 And it's important. I want to see Hasan Minhaj's dad. I love Hasan. I can't praise the guy enough. I love him. But I also want praise the guy enough. I love him. But I also want to see his dad's story. And we need that opportunity. We need to hear that accent.
Starting point is 01:50:12 I want to hear every fucking accent because every accent lives here. Akash said something to me that I thought was great and he was talking about when people make fun of his mom's accent or his dad's accent. You said, and you could phrase it better, but you were like, I love their accent.
Starting point is 01:50:31 I think their accent's beautiful. Not an insult to me. If you ask me to do an accent for an audition, I'm not offended. I'm only offended if the joke is the accent. That's what I fucking said in the movie. That's what I said in the movie. The joke's not the accent. Exactly. That's exactly what I fucking said in the movie. That's what I said in the movie. The joke's not an accent.
Starting point is 01:50:47 The joke's not the accent. Yeah, yeah. The only time the joke is the accent is when the person that's doing the joke isn't the accent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:57 Then it's a joke. Or if, yeah, the joke is. I do this one joke on my one special and I'm just like the differences between Asian people. If you listen to the joke I break
Starting point is 01:51:06 it down so good yeah oh that's a great fucking bit oh like listen to the fucking bit that's why if you try and see this cancel culture try and cancel me you'll see it look at the comments they got my back because I do it the right way only if they have an accent
Starting point is 01:51:21 and I think there's a little self loathing in that oh an accent is offensive I can't be funny have an accent. Yeah. And I think there's a little self-loathing in that, oh, an accent is offensive. I can't be funny with an accent. My uncle is the funniest guy I know, has a strong accent. Yeah. Fucking hysterical.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Exactly. So if it's a funny guy with an accent, that's my uncle. That's, to your point, that's beautiful to see that on screen. Exactly. But if the jokes... And what is it about that that you don't want to hear?
Starting point is 01:51:44 Because now when you say that to me, now I'm mad at you because that sounds like prejudice to me. But who doesn't want to hear it? But that's what I don't understand, Andrew. What is it about that accent that you're not liking? Because what you're saying to me is you don't like hearing my mom's voice. Can I tell you what it is? It's the fact that you're selling out a volcano. Because if you were selling 10 tickets at the Schomburg Improv, nobody gives a fuck what you're saying about the accent.
Starting point is 01:52:07 And I think when you reach a certain amount of success, I think that humans naturally, we have this feeling in us where we have to tear down the people that maybe we create or tear down the successful ones because they make us feel insecure. And the only thing that they can go to for you that they feel,
Starting point is 01:52:24 because they can't say you're not crushing, right? They can't say, oh, he's not feel because they can't say you're not crushing. They can't say, oh, he's not funny. They can't say you're not talented. There's 30,000 people there that are going to say, well, actually, yeah, he was crushing. I came here every single time he comes. There's really nothing that they can be critical about you. They can't say the industry gave it to you.
Starting point is 01:52:38 They earned it yourself. You built it yourself. You're up there and you're crushing. You've told us two or three scenarios that were really tricky ones that you ended up succeeding in, like, on your way up. You probably have maybe 200, 300 more of ones just like that. Yeah. Shitty rooms that you entered, then you flipped because of your talent. So there's really nothing that they can do to take it away. And what breaks my heart a little bit is it feels like you're a bit insecure about it.
Starting point is 01:53:08 It's like this is something that is your life. It's something that is hilarious to you. It's something that you find funny and these people also find funny and love hearing. Like who gives a flying fuck what three people say when 40,000 are coming out to the volcano? Don't even put, sorry to interrupt, but like, don't even put that out there. Don't even give them any credibility. Does it maybe hurt more
Starting point is 01:53:29 because it is such a vulnerable thing? Like, your mom, it seems like you look at her the way I look at my mom, which this is the most beautiful, wonderful person. And I feel like I'm doing, I'm paying homage almost. And then when you're shitting on that, it's like you're attacking this character that is the actual person I love more than anyone.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Yeah. And I get very protective about that. Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. Yeah. Yeah, I 100% understand that. And they don't understand that. It's like, I just don't get it. Pat Marina didn't have an accent.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Yeah, I did not know that. Pat Marina didn't have an accent. I did not know that. But he's going to go down in history as Mr. Miyagi. Yeah. And because that's the Hollywood he lived in. He's going to go down as Al from Happy Days. But no one's going to talk about his legacy of being a comedy story comic and running with Richard Pryor and Robin Williams.
Starting point is 01:54:18 We're only going to remember him as Wax on Wax off. And that's the kind of racist shit that we live in. So that's why. Right. That's why we gotta do shit like this. So do you feel compelled as you go to this part of your career, do you feel compelled to leave...
Starting point is 01:54:34 A lot of people talk about legacy, but it seems like your legacy is a little bit more selfless. Meaning you kind of want to see change kind of happen through your effect. That's exactly it. That's why my third special was in the Philippines. I just wanted everyone to be Filipino.
Starting point is 01:54:49 I was just like, I knew how hard it was for me to get on. And now that I have the door open, well then fuck it. I didn't make any money on In His Elements. I sacrificed all my money for that. I fucking loved it. All that went into production. I fucking loved it. I was supposed to shoot a third special in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 01:55:02 I didn't tell anybody that. I went to the Philippines. I got that little girl. That little girl lives in the Philippines. She's a rapper. After my show, she got signed by Def Jam. That's the kind of shit. That's what I want to do.
Starting point is 01:55:14 I want to be able to shine the light. Ronnie, I've known him since he was 17. He's so good. The first thing I said to myself was, we're going to the Philippines, bro. I got a show. He was the first person I called when I left Netflix. We're going to the Philippines. All those B-boys lived in the Philippines.
Starting point is 01:55:34 They're all homeless kids. We gave them a shot. So that's what you want to do with your success now. Yeah. You get the door open, you keep it open. I love that. Yeah, it's fire, man. Do you think your work will ever be done? No.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Nah. Not until everybody jumps in. What would make you go, maybe not I did enough, but what would make you look back and go, that was pretty cool? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Filipino Batman or something? Batman. Filipino Batman. Filipino Batman. And I want you to be Filipino Robin. We just have two of the coolest, whitest moms. No, what would make you go, like, not my work is done because the work is never done, but what would make you sit back and go, wow, I'm really proud of the mark that I left on entertainment
Starting point is 01:56:32 and how it's different now than when I was coming up and I wasn't given these opportunities? Oh, man, that's a, I don't know, man. Good question. It's a great question. You know, that's why everyone asks me, why am I doing that show? It was like, well, this is why I'm doing this show. Everyone's like, well, why'd you do that movie? It's like, well, because, man, we have to.
Starting point is 01:56:57 I think it's important to say this. For a guy like you that's touring, and other guys are in the same ballpark, you know, the Cavs, like a Cap Williams, even Fluffy, like to do a TV show or to do a film is to lose money. Yeah, that's 100. Oh, man. I'm so happy you said that. I know. And it's hard because I don't want you to say it because then it seems like you're like, look what I'm giving. But what people don't realize is there's so much money to be made on the road that to do a movie for two months,
Starting point is 01:57:25 you're losing so much money. And to do a TV show. What about a TV show? No money, bro. Because a lot of people go, oh, my dream is to be an actor. My dream is to have a TV show. My dream is to have a movie.
Starting point is 01:57:37 So they look at you doing that, and then they go, well, why would you do it? Whatever like that. You're willing to lose potentially millions of dollars. I don't want to count your pockets here, but millions of dollars to create some change or a platform for other Filipinos. I wanted to have a hospital with Filipino nurses in it. I think that's pretty fucking fire, man.
Starting point is 01:57:56 And that was the scene in that TV show. That was the opening scene to actually see a hospital. As it should be. That had everything. It had Latinos in it, black people in it, Indians, white. It had everybody in it. Jamaican nurses too? It didn't have Luke and Laura.
Starting point is 01:58:13 It wasn't General Hospital. You got Luke and Laura doing hospital administration, for sure. For sure, hospital administration. But maybe that, no. I don't want you Andrew in no way am I I'm not talking in like some kind of
Starting point is 01:58:28 hateful I don't want to it's still love it comes from a loving place I don't take it that way at all please don't think I'm taking it like that I'm taking it as someone
Starting point is 01:58:36 who felt kind of shunned by the industry and now you're trying to create opportunities in the industry with the success you have a lot of people just go to their house
Starting point is 01:58:43 in the hills and they sit there by themselves and they just collect their money. So I think given your situation, what you're doing is incredibly altruistic. And I also think this is something I wish people, those people who do complain about you doing an accent, they probably like a lot of, we see a lot of people that are minorities in this business who will use this struggle or injustice as a platform, get famous and then not really help
Starting point is 01:59:04 out their own. Yeah. And I think it's really cool that... Which is very common. Yeah. And you do something that these people might not like, but they have no idea what you're actually doing, the change you're actually creating, the lives you're actually changing for the better.
Starting point is 01:59:15 But it also... And that's why I think this is really cool that you get a platform to say this. Thank you. I love you for saying it. But I also want to, like... I heard your tongue hit in the top of your mouth. Should I put a condom on it?
Starting point is 01:59:29 Oh, if you would have said it faster. Who was it? You? God damn it. There you go. But also like this is another thing that makes me mad. For them to say something like, oh, he's doing that joke with the accent. It's like I'm telling a story about my mother.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Yes. So why are you choosing to say that? It's almost like it's more than offensive. It's like this ignorant battle of like you're being prejudiced right now. Yeah, well, this is. So when any other ethnicity that wants to talk about their parents if you're doing an accent to be funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:09 But they don't say that for anybody else. Yeah. Because I'll tell you what, man. One of my favorite jokes growing up was Aunt Bunny falling down the goddamn steps. Oh my God. Unbelievable. Oh my God. And not one note. Not one note. Not one note about Aunt Bunny God, dude. Unbelievable. Oh, my God. The Goonie Goo Goo. Holy fuck. You tell me why it's fire again?
Starting point is 02:00:25 Not one note about Aunt Bunny falling down the step. Oh, he's just doing that accent. Eddie Murphy, delirious, anybody who's wondering. It's one of the greatest bits of all time. It's the greatest bit ever. Yeah. And it's been ripped a million times. I've heard so many comics do their version of that,
Starting point is 02:00:41 that Aunt Bunny falling down. But it's just like. We did a whole analysis of that joke in one of our least popular episodes ever of this podcast. He was amazing. It was amazing. His album was amazing. Unbelievable. Hit by a car.
Starting point is 02:00:54 My favorite. It was fucking unbelievable. I synced it. Oh, shit. I synced it. Why are you syncing it? I'm not syncing it. Your leg.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Your leg. You look like this. You ain't going to need these shoes anymore. I'm gonna picture you there about 90 feet. God. But no one says anything about accent there. No. Two, this is what Andrew was saying earlier.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Again, a lot of people, and this is kind of the LeBron thing that we all shit on him for. You gotta wake up and be yourself. A lot of people can't deal with whatever unhappiness they have, so when they see somebody killing it like you, how do I pick this apart? Oh, it's an accident.
Starting point is 02:01:27 And then that's their exit ramp for their own insecurity. Well, I might not be successful, but I didn't do that. So they're just doing that to feel better about themselves, which I think is what Andrew was saying earlier. You can't personalize that. We love you, bro. I think what you're doing is you're literally in like the top 0, 0, 0, 0, 1% of comedians that have ever existed. There's probably like 10 total that have done – like total in history that have done the amount of people, right? And to me, that's what I judge as success.
Starting point is 02:01:56 It's like how many people leave their house, put on clothes, and drive to the show. Because there's a lot of people that we watch every – I mean, millions of people watch football every single day, right? They watch college football. Every single Saturday they watch college football. And then a new roster of kids come and play for that team. Yeah. Right? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:02:13 So they're not leaving specifically for those kids. But with comics – They're leaving for the laundry. Exactly. So with comics, it's like how many people are willing to leave their house and then go see you live. And creating that community and cultivating that career to me is just like the highest form of success as a comic. So I know that you have this other thing that you want to care about, Filipinos or whatever the fuck. You mean that we care about.
Starting point is 02:02:38 That we care about. But for me, comic to comic, when I look at what you've done, I think you've reached the pinnacle. I think you've reached the mountaintop. And to Filipinos. I love you. you've done, I think you've reached the pinnacle. I think you've reached the mountaintop. And to Filipinos. I love you. I mean, I love you too. But I'm like, please, if there is a moment where you can reflect on what you've done, like, I know I got this advice. I forget who told it to me, but a bunch of people told me during my wedding, they're like, just look at the people that are there for you.
Starting point is 02:03:00 Like, just take a moment and look at everybody who's there because it's easy to get lost in that moment with just you and your wife and my wife and I we looked at all the people who were there and I think that maybe every once in a while you need to reflect like I'm in a volcano 40,000 people got here like this is really good too and even racially
Starting point is 02:03:19 and the change you want to make and this is another reason I compare you to Russell when I saw Russell I knew what he did for, when I saw Russell, I knew what he did for me when I started doing comedy. I knew that when I did comedy, you've seen Russell, so this isn't fucking weird to you anymore. And this is from someone who wanted to do comedy.
Starting point is 02:03:36 If I didn't do comedy and didn't want to, which is so many people out there, they look at you and they think, yo, one of us made it and did exactly what you set out to do. He normalized us to so many millions of people. I got chills saying that. That's so fucking mind-boggling. I don't find them to be normal to this day. At all. And I find
Starting point is 02:03:57 you to be very weird. That's he's self-loathing. All two billion of you. He's self-loathing Filipino. You can't. This is the guy that's mad at your accent. This is the guy that's mad at your accent. This is the guy that's mad at your accent. But you should sit back and- Because my mom left me. And I didn't have one. But you should sit back and think,
Starting point is 02:04:15 you did exactly what the fuck you set out to do. Yeah. Just because it's not on- Have you and your mom had that moment? Yeah, my mom, you know, my mom is, you know, she's Filipino. Yeah. You know, and she never wanted me to be a comic you know she wanted me to be she wanted me to be in the hospital no not a b-boy either doctor she wanted if you have talent you know it's only until high school ends yeah yeah yeah the talent must stop now you need a a career. Now it's a hobby. Now you, yeah, that's, stop it.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Dancing, you're not going to make money dancing. So it's like, what are you, a clown? Like, what the fuck? And then, so yeah, so she wanted me to be. But imagine, like, I also, like, have a lot of empathy for those parents because it's like, imagine you risk everything to come to America, bust your fucking ass, and then your kid
Starting point is 02:05:06 wants to be a dancer. Exactly. I'm so happy you said it. It sounds better when you say it. Yeah. I'm white. You're white.
Starting point is 02:05:16 You're white. I'm white again. Welcome back. I'm back. Yes. He's white again. I knew I could trust you. No, but I'm glad
Starting point is 02:05:23 you said that because not everyone gets what you get. I feel for them trust you. No, but I'm glad you said that because not everyone gets it. I feel for them. You get it, but people that aren't Filipino don't get it. They just see, oh, you made it to America. Now, shut up. You made it. You're good.
Starting point is 02:05:38 You don't know that my mom left her entire family. She literally left everyone. You're thinking she might not see them for years. No, she didn't see them, but she knew it. And now I'm just going to provide a better life for my kids and also whatever leftover money I'm going to make, I'm going to send back to them. So that they have a better future.
Starting point is 02:05:55 But people in America don't see that. And you want to dance? And I want to dance. I want fat laces. Isn't that crazy? He hated me buying fat laces. Isn't that crazy? Oh, she hated me buying fat laces. You already have shoelaces. You have them.
Starting point is 02:06:11 You're going to fat? Why? Does it keep it on better? Well, you think of what they gave up for stability and security, and then you're saying, fuck all. That's why Asians always want their kids to be doctors. Asians I'm including myself in. Because doctors secure.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Well, you should. You're Asian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't do that. Oh, you don't do that here? But a doctor is... What kind of racist shit do you guys do? How are you oppressing this guy? He's Latino.
Starting point is 02:06:37 He's Latino. I don't get a chair unless there's a guest. Them's the rules. No, but they... I gave up everything up everything all my security to make your life secure so enter the most secure fecal possible be a doctor people will always be sick that's why it's the dream because this is what i came here for i gave up everything for me so you could be secure yeah and now you're gonna go have a dream you fucking idiot fuck you i had the dream yeah i got us here yeah Yeah. We're done.
Starting point is 02:07:06 We woke up. Whites are a little bit like, how do I say it? My mom immigrated here, right? So like I relate to this, but like most white people in America are a few generations away from the parent that left the homeland. Yeah. But America is a bunch of people who did what your mom did. Yeah. So like in our core, we relate to it. Yes. In our core, everybody had a family member who just left it all behind. Yeah. But America is a bunch of people who did what your mom did. Yeah. So, like, in our core, we relate to it. Yes.
Starting point is 02:07:26 In our core, everybody had a family member who just left it all behind. Yeah. Came here, probably didn't see their family that much. Yeah. And it came from maybe, like, a tricky circumstance. Yeah. And I think that white people are kind of maybe a few generations removed from it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:39 So maybe they don't get it. But if you ask, like, a white dude's grandparent how they would feel about your mom's situation, they'd be like, I was so pissed off when your mom wanted to be a fucking ballerina do you know what I mean like they would also
Starting point is 02:07:50 probably feel I hear you yeah there's a risk taker niss in our DNA here in America yeah so not all of us
Starting point is 02:07:58 but yeah always these specific people they always like bring up this trauma you know what I mean that story's a little too specific to tell
Starting point is 02:08:07 right now you guys but you do feel the same as black people mostly but my mom's experience
Starting point is 02:08:15 was so similar she took a plane willingly they love dancing do you know what I mean got paid when she worked but here's the difference when your mom wanted
Starting point is 02:08:23 to be a ballerina yeah ballroom dancer ballroom dancing they only looked But here's the difference. When your mom wanted to be a ballerina, ballroom dancing, they only looked at the white dancers. You know what? Not that dancer. And not that dancer. Even though that's the best dancer. And not these dancers.
Starting point is 02:08:39 He's just being funny. Don't be freaked out. I was really upset about that. Yes, yes, yes. There was less opportunities. Way to bring it down, Joe. But when did your mom come around? That was what I was curious about.
Starting point is 02:08:54 Like I said, she's old school. I don't know if you can relate, but it doesn't matter. Steven Spielberg, okay. Well, what else are you going to do, Joseph? Really? I mean, now it's a little better. And she sees the show. What about the bank account?
Starting point is 02:09:11 Like, do you just show her the straight cash? You bought her a house, I'm assuming? Yeah. You shit on some of your, like, medical professional friends? And a lot of cards. You know, my mom got so comfortable, she bought a car. No. Bro.
Starting point is 02:09:25 What type? What types? Yeah. Types. Types. But the last one, I didn't even go pick it. She already went. Already went to.
Starting point is 02:09:37 This is after the third one, right? Yeah. Already went to the place. Already purchased it. Sent me a picture of it, and goes, can you just send, what information do you need? What information do you need? I don't know. So many zeros.
Starting point is 02:10:05 So what do you need, Joseph? So I can just enjoy driving. Negotiation. Do you need? I told him Spielberg. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. What type of car?
Starting point is 02:10:22 Mercedes. Let's go, mom. Yeah. She got good taste. Yeah. That's all. Why did you tell her Mercedes. That's cool, Mom. Yeah. She got good taste. Yeah. That's all I'm talking about. Why did you tell her to ask one of her doctor friends to pay for it? Bro.
Starting point is 02:10:31 You know a dentist or something, right? That's all I'm going to say. My dad told me, I'm really impressed with how far you've come. I'm really just so blown away watching it. But I want you to know no matter how successful you are, I would still rather you be a doctor. I swear to God he said this to me. Swear. He loved titles, by the way. Life support.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Yes, I'm not a doctor! That's so funny. And I laughed and he laughed and he was like, I know it's stupid, but I'm an Indian father. I can't tell you any different. It's just who I am. And I wasn't even mad at it because it was so like authentic. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:07 But it was such a funny thing. I'll never forget. Don't relate to the doctor thing. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. It's so funny. It's the titles that they're addicted to. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:17 They love to say, they'll never call someone, oh, that's my friend John. That's attorney John. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Attorney John. And now you're comedian Joe? That's attorney John. That's Attorney John. That's Attorney John. And now you're Comedian Joe? That's Attorney John.
Starting point is 02:11:29 No, that's Joseph. He has money. She saw you on Netflix though. She's like, oh wow. I mean... Did she go to the Philippines withines with you she doesn't know she no because you know she's she's older now and you know and my stepdad is not doing too well and uh yeah but um she's uh she's very proud i mean everyone i don't know how to say it
Starting point is 02:12:02 everyone knows who i am in the ph. That's what I'm saying. It would be cool for your mom to see. Yeah. So she loves it. No, she loves where she is. Everyone knows my mom. Oh, she's famous. Oh, she's very.
Starting point is 02:12:17 Over there as well? No, she lives here and she's big. Everyone knows her. Real. Yeah, she does her interviews and she does all that. Take the napkins, Joseph. Take the napkins that. Yeah. Take the napkins, Joseph. Take the napkins. She's the star.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Take all the napkins, Joseph. I still remember from 2007 a joke about her teaching you how to fight and putting your keys in between the two fingers. And I was like, yo, Filipinas get it, dog. They're fucking wild people. You know what's crazy about that joke is everyone walks up to me. So that's why I get mad when you're like, you're not really listening. She's just being a mom.
Starting point is 02:12:45 Well, so everyone talks. I have people coming up to me, like, I do that same thing with the keys, you know. So here's the thing. The immigrant experience, and I think that a lot of comics who talk about it, especially with their parents being immigrants, have seen this. Like, your audience is not just Filipino. You have so many different people in your audience. And you've also seen this with Sebastian as well. The immigrant experience for
Starting point is 02:13:07 the Italian father or the Filipino mother is not that dissimilar. There's so much that they're going through, so then all these people get to relate to it. Oh, my grandma did the exact same thing. Dude, I'll go to San Antonio and there's no Filipinos in the audience. But they got keys.
Starting point is 02:13:23 They got the bootleg Tupperware. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They get the jokes. Sneaking in to the country. Fucking Mexican. What? Why did you just say? You get racist.
Starting point is 02:13:32 But he charged me up. Which one's my camera? That's why we should cancel. That's not the camera, you fucking liar. I'm trying to cancel him and you sent me to a stage light Joe we know that I'm sorry I have to ask one more question what was it like performing in the Philippines
Starting point is 02:13:53 how was that different than America because for me going back to India is always a fucking thing it was nuts that was nuts what felt different within you I used to live there I lived lived there for six years, right? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:14:06 So I was like from four to ten, the most memorable years of my life, right? And so like just right when you get off the plane, you smell something. I remember I looked at my son. I go, this just brought me back to my childhood. I smelt this smell that I smelled. And then just being with my son was just so yeah a moment you know right right right then it was a wednesday uh it's a wednesday bro and i sold out an arena like it was like on a wednesday that's so crazy like it was just amazing and everybody was there
Starting point is 02:14:37 there was did you feel more pressure was the big guy there was the big guy there? Was the big guy there? They were all there. Manny? No, Manny wasn't there. But there were people there. I don't want to say any names. Sure, sure, sure. I don't need to do that. But yeah. But yeah, there were people there. But as far as pressure, no.
Starting point is 02:14:59 That was the one message I was trying to get across, too, on stage that night is the whole, that crab mentality. Yeah. And I just wanted to let that be heard. Huh, Josh? That was one thing. I went on a rant for like 15 minutes. You know, we're so quick to just pull somebody down but not understand the struggle it takes to get to where we get to. Right.
Starting point is 02:15:20 Or understand what they're trying to do. You just want to take it down. Yeah. And then you wonder why the door's closed. Right. Because every time it opens, you close it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just help one another, man.
Starting point is 02:15:35 Well, that's that scarcity mentality, I think, a lot of times. I think that's where it comes from is when you're – I'm imagining, right? I'm a fucking white dude in this, but it's like when you're going, well, there's only so many roles for Asians. So you're like, well, if he got it, that means I'm not going to get it. Fuck that guy. So you develop this mentality,
Starting point is 02:15:52 which is like you're really competing against everybody else in your community for that like one slot. And if there's a bunch more slots, all of a sudden you get to support them a little bit more and say, hey, that's awesome you got that because there's some more over here.
Starting point is 02:16:04 And that's the beauty of the because there's some more over here. And that's the beauty of the internet, right? Yeah. The internet is abundance. We can all have a fucking podcast. We can all have a comedy special. We can all have a show. We can have everything.
Starting point is 02:16:12 Yeah. And the people that want to indulge in it get to decide what they like the best. Yes. So hopefully that goes away. No, we don't say hopefully. It's going to go away. It's going to go away. I mean, look what you did, man.
Starting point is 02:16:22 That's dope. Thank you. Right? That's amazing. And that's what i want to see more of that's what that was the first thing i said when i was touring my movie it's like dude i'm telling a story about my family in no way am i trying to like just only build this opportunity for this i want to hear everyone's story yeah i'm trying to show everybody that this is just a family. It doesn't matter what ethnicity they are. That's my mom, and this is my sister.
Starting point is 02:16:50 She doesn't have an accent. She does. But they're both Americans. They're a family, and you're going to relate because a mom's a mom, a sister's a sister. And you know it's proof that everything is changing. Every one of my opportunities basically was given to me by a Filipino. Yeah, exactly. We're giving people.
Starting point is 02:17:04 The Joe Coy of New York. That's you. I am the Joe Coy of New York We're giving people. The Joe Coy of New York. That's you. I am the Joe Coy of New York. I love that. Joe Coy of the East Village is what they called me growing up. I love it, man. Yep. And our new special is called Gluck Gluck.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Gluck Gluck. How are you guys? Gluck Gluck Live. Joe Coy, everybody. Yay! Make sure you check out his new special. Make sure you check out his movie, and make sure you check him out on tour
Starting point is 02:17:24 if there are seats available which we doubt there will be but go see Madison Square Garden oh you gotta go check out Madison Square Garden we're gonna all be in there supporting
Starting point is 02:17:32 let's go love you guys thank you so much my man I love you guys love you buddy

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