Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Kanye West Made Alex Jones Look WOKE

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

Well... He did it again.. Kanye West Made Alex Jones Look Woke. Is this the end for Kanye? Schulz discusses why Art Basel sucks, why Ronaldo should come to the US, and why the Twitter files arent surprising. INDULGE! 00:00 - Jesus isn’t enough for Ye 07:30 - Manosphere love being cucks 24:37 - Dov is a Mid-Value Man 29:44 - Tate is a loss-leader of Islam 33:48 - Art Basel was the worst parts of Miami 57:29 - Child acting is abuse 01:03:53 - Andrew LOVES hanging out with MEN 01:17:05 - What is kismet? 01:18:24 - Ronaldo insane Saudi offer 01:26:23 - Zlatan’s confidence is insane 01:30:17 - World Cup predictions 01:34:38 - Crypto millionaires keep dying 01:40:48 - Hunter Biden Files + Twitter + Owning the internet

You know who I think the big winner is in this whole thing is Alex Jones. What? We might have found his road to redemption. If he just keeps interviewing people crazier than him and forcing him to be like, well, that's not true now. We can't just hate people. I love Jewish people, but I also love n****s. Oh, man.

Well, I have to disagree with that. Yeah, you know you've gone off the deep end when Alex Jones is interviewing you and he's the rational one. When he's got to keep you in line. I like Hitler. I don't like Hitler. And I know you're trying to be shocking, but that... I'm not trying to be shocking. I thought this man was Barbara Walters.

You can't just say these things. He kept giving them outs, too. He's like, you're not really... People are saying you like the Nazis, but you're being hyperbolic. No, I'm a Nazi! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Poor Kanye. Poor Kanye.

But it is exhausting, right? Are you guys exhausted by it yet yeah dude yeah i'm just exhausted by it yeah yeah i was on uh i was on the pbd podcast patrick but david was great and uh we were discussing it and it's just like it's really fun kanye is trying to do uh you know what what he does for music, but like with thought. Yeah. Like he's just trying to like handpick a few interesting sentences that he's heard and then organize them into one cohesive thought, right? Because that's how you make a beat. Because that's how you make a beat.

And he's done that throughout his career and it's been absolutely amazing. He just grabs them, puts them together, and he has a real talent for that. But with thinking, you can't do it. It's like there are political parties spend millions and millions of dollars on these things called think tanks. And they organize thoughts. And it costs millions of dollars and tons of people who went to fucking Harvard, Yale, Ivy League, all the smartest people in the world that have nothing else to fucking do, sit around and think. And even they can't convince us to stop getting abortions.

Do you know what I mean? Like, even they can't convince us to stop going to war. Yeah. You know, it's just like, but millions of dollars just made. There's probably been, like,

20 interesting thinkers in history. We're still talking about Socrates. Yeah, that's true. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, there's only a few people throughout history

where you still remember the shit they said. You're like, I might have been on to something a little bit. Right. And Kanye is just trying to remix. And it's just not how it works. It is easier to make beats than think.

I hate to break it to you musicians. It's easier to make beats than think. Also, just sample better producers. You know what I mean? Like, sample more Socrates, less Mein Kampf. There you go. Just do more like, I think, therefore I am. People will be like, sample more Socrates, less Mein Kampf. Yeah. There you go. Like, just do more, like, I think, therefore I am. People will be like, man, this Kanye guy's really deep.

Yeah. Like, Jim Carrey sampled, but he sampled more, like, esoteric shit. Yeah. Wait, what? Or, like, Jim Carrey, when he was like, oh, nothing means anything. Like, he was just, like, pulling thoughts. Oh, I thought you were saying he was stealing jokes. Oh, no, no.

That's a huge shot. You're taking Jim Carrey for no reason. He's sampling, like, ideology and worldview. Remember when Jamie and Willow were doing the whole, like, they're super philosophical? Philosophers were like, yo, they're actually taken from a lot of good philosophers here. And, like, it doesn't make a ton of sense, but their thoughts are, there's a lot to it or something. Kanye's taking from the worst philosopher. Well, it's so interesting because he's, like, he's taking from Jesus and Hitler.

It's just fascinating. Fire and ice, bro. Yeah. He's making fire and ice. He's a Tartarian, dog. Hitler, bro. Isn't that crazy? That is wild when you think about it.

To look at Jesus and be like, wow, this is the perfect human being. The way that he is able to forgive and welcome people into his kingdom. And then Hitler who's like you have brown hair the least forgiving guy in history sweet and salty bro that's it that's what it is in no way is he listening to the ideology of Jesus

and going I don't know if this Hitler shit lines up at all but that is musically kind of what he does like he'll take rock music black skinhead now we're getting it Jesus wasn't enough for him That's kind of what he does. Like, he'll take rock music. Black skinhead. Black skinhead. No. Yes, that's what I was going to say. Now we're getting it. Jesus wasn't enough for him. Isn't that crazy?

Oh, that's crazy. Kanye's a bad Christian. Jesus should be enough. You don't need Hitler. Yeah. Unbelievable. Jesus should be enough for you. But Kanye is such a bottomless pit that he can't even be filled by the greatest filler

in history. Truly. There you go. Yo, I'm just saying. Super filling. Do you know what I mean? Ask Mary, fam. You know what I mean?

What? What? What? What? Because she was pregnant with him. She was pregnant with God. Yeah, exactly. First me too.

Yeah. Literally, Kanye could have sampled the devil, and I think people would not be as mad. If he was like, I'm a Satanist now, people would be like, all right. Way more forgiven. You just can't go Hitler. Because not even atheists like Hitler. Atheists are like, God sucks, but they wouldn't go as far to say Hitler's good. Yeah, you could have philosophical

discussions about Satan. Satan was an angel. He felt spite. It all comes from a place. You could be a Satanist. You can't do that about Hitler in art school. You know what I mean? You can identify as a Satanist. You can't identify as a Nazi. No, that's too far.

No, no, no. Believe in the epitome of all evil. But that's not as bad as Hitler. That's not as bad as the actual evil. What the fuck

is this guy talking about? Whoa. Hitler went to hell and the devil was like, it's great to meet you. I've heard a lot about you. Everyone's been chatting about you.

I think he went there and he was like, you took it a little far. How am I going to torture people like you down here? That was evil, even for me. Thanks for warming up my seat. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a wild thing right there.

Even an atheist recognizes that Hitler is crazy. Yeah, yeah. Whoa. Yeah. What do atheists, no, not even atheists, a Satanist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would be like, yo, this is crazy. What is the purpose of Satan religiously?

What do they teach you about? What do they teach you about Satan? He's a bad guy. Used to be an angel, great at music. And then got cast away because of his pride. Got cast into hell. Yo, Jifty, why are you laughing at this? Is that not true?

Come on, what is that? Is that not true? Let me find out Mark knows less about God than soccer, bro. But wait, wait. Is that not true? Why is that not true? Is Satan responsible for all the evils in the world?

Yeah, I think so. So technically, Satan would be responsible for Hitler. Yeah. But the Jedi became the master. There it is. There it is. Young Anakin. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is it Anakin? Yeah. Yeah. Now here's the question. If Kanye likes Hitler, who's the embodiment of all the things that Satan represents. Is Kanye not a Christian? Is he actually a Satanist? Ooh! Is he using Christianity to bring people to the dark side?

What did God always say about Satan? He's an ugly guy. No. I don't know. Right? Isn't he like a false prophet? A liar and the father of lies. John 844.

He'll come to you as everything you always wanted. He'll come to you as everything you always wanted. Which is? Fire beats. Yeah. Fire beats and also relationship with God, Christianity. Oh. What did he literally do?

Didn't he do that? What was that Sunday service? Yeah. What was that Sunday service for? Oh, are you saying he's the Antichrist? Black Sunday. Are you saying he's the Antichrist? I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. It seems like something, who's the fallen angel? Gabriel? I don't think so. He ain't fallen? No, no, no. I think Gabriel. Which one of these clumsy ass angels fell?

Lucifer. It was Lucifer? Yeah. Okay. And a bunch of other angels went with him. Did they? Yeah, they chose up. Cox.

Is that the first Manosphere? I don't know who I'm more tired of. The fucking Manosphere or... I don't know if I'm more tired of the Manosphere or Kanye. That was the Red Pill, dog. Hell. That's the Red Pill. Is there one Red Pill dude whose girl didn't get fucked while he watched in their life?

red pill dude who's like girl didn't get fucked while he watched in their life is it is there one of them who there

isn't a story where like their girl didn't get fucked while they watched and is is being is being in the manosphere of the

red pill alright you know how like and I'm curious about this you know how like you're like the most homophobic guys secretly want

cock yes okay yeah right yes do they secretly want cock? Yes. Okay, yeah. Right? Yes. Do they secretly want cock? They secretly want cock. You keep talking about cocks and all this other stuff.

Is that you trying to throw the scent off the cock trail? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm wondering a little bit. They're the most blue pill. I think that's what people do with trauma, though, on a real note. When people are traumatized, they try to act it out in like a sexual fantasy. Was my note not real enough for you? No.

You just said they're all cucks. What? You can't just call people cucks. What in the world did my fucking note live in? Huh? I thought mine was a joke. It was pretty goddamn real. It felt condescending.

Okay, go, go, go. But like people will try to use like sexual fantasies as a way to like get control over some bad shit that happened to them. So like a lot of these dudes that are into like cuck shit, like their people try to use, like, sexual fantasies as a way to, like, get control over some bad shit that happened to them. So, like, a lot of these dudes that are into, like, cuck shit, like, their girlfriends cheated on them. And then they're like, oh, I'm going to get control of the situation and, like, watch it happen under my terms. It's, like, this weird warped way to, like, gain control. Like when girls enjoy being a slut or whatever. Yeah. They probably went through some sexual trauma and they're trying to desensitize themselves to sex.

Yeah. So, like, trauma wasn't as bad. People have like an aggressive assault fantasy, like a rape fantasy or something. They went through some type of trauma with that and now this is a way for them to get control over the bad shit that happened. That makes sense because if this, if sex means nothing, then this horrible thing

that happened to me also means nothing. Actually, it's a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're a cuck. So if you watch the woman you love get fucked her brains out of in front of you, I could totally understand why you would be like, oh, yeah, that's cool? Wait, what? No, I don't think they have a cuck fantasy at all. No, it's like they're girl-cheating on them.

Yeah. And then they're like, damn, that hurt me really bad. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, I'm going to gain control of this by the next girl I'm with. Yeah. Some dude's going to just have sex with her brains all over the floor. This isn't Manosphere because Manosphere pretends to be. Oh, oh, I'm going to gain control of this by the next girl I'm with. Some dude's going to just have sex with her brains all over the floor.

This isn't Manosphere because Manosphere pretends to be. Oh, yeah. Let's go to the real note. This is the honest reality. Can we go back to reality? But it's closeted.

That's my point. Can we go back to reality for a second? They're closeted cucks. I'm agreeing with that. No. In all seriousness, I think the frustrating thing

about the Manosphere is that I remember having all those feelings. Right? And I think that these feelings, they come from you're younger, you go through a heartbreak, a girl cheats on you or some shit like that. And you have this frustration where you're not in control of your sexual destiny. And there's a vulnerability in that.

And as a man, you're not. Women control sex, right? You can't have sex with a woman against her will. Yes. Right? I mean, I think Patrice even had a line about that. You can't control, you're going to have sex with a woman against her will, that's rape. Yeah. Right? So at the end of the day, they are in the driver's seat with sex 100% of the time. If you want to be a remotely decent human being. Exactly. So

the other thing that you can do is you can develop like certain skills to increase your chances of sleeping with the woman that you're really interested in. But at the end of the day, you got to hope that they want to sleep. Right. And I think that that's what a lot of guys go through. They're like, okay, that's what I did. My dad gave me that book about the pickup artist and I read it and I was like, oh, that's cool. You can learn these skills that eventually will help you get laid. And it was really appealing to me at that young age. But I think what happens is if you're a smart dude, and a lot of these guys happen to be intelligent guys, is when you have a resentment for women because you're not in control of your sexual destiny and you've probably had something pretty shitty happen to you from a woman.

Like a girl took advantage of you, maybe used you, maybe cheated on you and like fucking broke your heart. Yeah. You match that with intellect, you can justify your feelings. Yes. And that's a scary thing. Dude, that's the most dangerous thing on earth is people who are smart can justify your feelings. Yes. And that's a scary thing. Dude, that's the most dangerous thing on earth is people who are smart can justify anything. This woman is awful.

Let me think of why. Yeah. And why all women are awful. Yeah. And that's how I'll protect myself from what I experience. I can't get, I'm not, I don't have the sexual destiny I want to have,

so how can I blame everyone else? Everyone else. Except me. Yeah. And make it rooted in logic. Yeah. It's actually not me at all. It's completely logical.

And it might not be your fault. Like, that girl might have went through some horrible shit. Yeah. You know, we are the sum of all the interactions we've had in our life. She might have had horrible experiences, relationships, even seeing with her family. And then she cheated on you. She did something really fucked up to you. But it doesn't mean necessarily that you're bad.

Yeah. But it also doesn't mean all these women are bad. And I think what happens is you eventually get a little bit older, and then you fall in love with a woman who's maybe right for you. And that resentment and bitterness that you have for the opposite sex goes away. You're also now way more in control of your sexual destiny because you guys are in this consensual, beautiful relationship where you won't have sex with each other all the time.

So for me, I'm looking at like the anger and the resentment and like the almost fear of women in the manosphere community. And I'm like, I get that. It's a younger thing that you will grow out of. So it's hard for me to look at it and take it seriously. Though I do understand the feeling that those guys have. I just hope that they develop these relationships. And the last thing I want

is them to take this advice of, I don't want to never be in a relationship. I always want to be single. I always want to have a bunch of bitches. Like, you're not going to lose that resentment. You're not going to lose that anger. You're not going to lose that bitterness. It's probably going to build.

It's going to build more and more. Yeah. And you're also going to attract the exact women that you hate because those are the women that are even going to tolerate the bullshit that you're talking about. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's like... A woman who needs your rejection to... Validate herself. Validate herself is so empty you're going to tolerate the bullshit that you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like. A woman who needs your rejection to. Validate herself. Validate herself is so empty. You're going to look at women as empty because that's. Yeah. She's got a void.

Yeah. It's not her fault or whatever, but like. Yeah. You know, I've also noticed like I had friends who were great. I miss that resentment, bro. I have some fire women-a shit jokes. It's so hard to write women-a shit jokes when you love them. Yeah.

And you think they're great. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's difficult. It's also like to write women-a-shit jokes when you love them. Yeah. And you think they're great. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's difficult. It's also like a different time. Like, imagine, like, you got like a book that wasn't even that bad. Yeah. But imagine if you went through that same shit when you had, like, social media, podcasts, like, telling you clips all the time.

And also, like, clipping certain women that are exemplifying the behaviors that these guys resent. And you see every example of it. Like, gold digger, screws off guy, whatever. Oh, this one last thing, the ick. I saw a random thing popped up on my Instagram, and it was a girl talking about, oh, he told me he was going to be late. And I was like, oh, that gave me the ick. I'm about to be done. And there's this idea that women can be done with you at any moment.

Now, I have a lot of female friends growing up. I've also dated a lot. I know that the ick doesn't exist. The ick doesn't exist. Women will say a lot of things just like guys say a lot of things. It is absolute bullshit. If a woman likes you, there's no ick. You've seen a woman.

Kind of like when guys have deal breakers. It's like if a girl is hot enough, you ain't got no fucking deal breaker. Dove convinced me every week he loves a new girl that's fucking brain dead. It's a mean guy. It's not mean. They just don't have what I ultimately want. Yeah, a brain.

You got the ick for someone? No. No, I just have a list of things that I'm looking for. So if you look at this video like, oh my god, these girls are so unrealistic. Look at these tiny little things that give them the ick. It's like none of that shit

gives them the ick. They just didn't like you. It's like liberals of TikTok, but for the red pill. Like you find the worst example of this party that you don't like. Exactly. And then you're like,

look at how they all are. This is how they all are, which is not. The left does that with the right too. Exactly. They all fucking do it. Yeah. But it's just, yeah,

I look at it and in a little bit, it makes me sad. Yeah. Yeah, it makes me sad. But it's just, yeah, I look at it and in a little bit, it makes me sad. Yeah. Yeah, it makes me sad. But I understand the feeling because I had the exact same feeling. So what do you do if you have that? What do you do if you have that feeling? You're 22, you got cheated on, you fucking hate all women. You're like kind of listening to these man to spirit podcasts. And you're like, these guys make a lot of sense. It makes perfect sense. And the things aren't lies. You could flex numbers in whatever way

you want and it works out perfectly. So what do you do? You hope that you fall in love with a girl and then she makes you feel like, you know, she makes you feel like, you know, that's that person for you, and that you're safe around her, and you can be vulnerable with her, and you're like, oh, shit, wow, women can be absolutely amazing. And I think because we don't get to, I didn't have a sister growing up, you didn't have a sister growing up.

I know a lot of guys who were good with girls who had sisters growing up or raised by their mom or whatever, and they weren't mistreating them. They just understood women. And it's like, hey, you're just as vulnerable as me. I can treat you well and then move on and have sex with as many people as I want to, but I don't have to mistreat you to do it. And I really think there's a lot to like, you just don't know women. They're just as vulnerable and scared as you. But because they're in the driver's seat in terms of what the outcome is, you think they're, like, super drunk off of power and fucking— Yeah.

They're just as insecure as you, just as, like, scared that they're going to get rejected as you. Yeah. And if you can just meet that and be like, hey, we're both in this moment. And if she moves on, that's not a reflection of you. It's a reflection of her. 100%. Or whatever she's feeling at the moment. Don't take that personally.

Yeah. I think if we didn't take rejection so personally, a lot of this would go away. Well, that's the thing. I think if we didn't take rejection so personally, a lot of this would go away. Well, that's the thing. Like, when you are sensitive and insecure, like we all have fucking been, rejection feels that much worse. Like, rejection is brutal, painful.

Yeah, because it validates all your worst fears about you. She's not saying that. She's just saying, hey, I'd rather not go out with you. You're saying, oh, I'm ugly, I'm stupid, I'm X, Y So isn't it nicer to chalk up rejection to their personality defaults and not who you are as a person? That's what I would do if I was sensitive and insecure. That's what we've all done. It's, oh, they're all a bunch of gold diggers. You would say that if you don't got no gold. Yeah, yeah. Right? Like, if you got gold, you're like, she finally appreciates my personality.

Yeah, yeah. Right? Like, we all want to be appreciated for what we have. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, that's the tricky thing is, like, these are defense mechanisms that we all build out. Yeah. And it's hard to realize their defense mechanisms until you have a healthy relationship. So, I guess the advice is, like, keep dating and have faith that that will happen. You know, it's not like every single person is miserable in a relationship.

We still have relationships for a fucking reason. I've yet to meet this happy guy with four girlfriends. I've yet to meet him. I've yet to meet this happy, fulfilled, not stressed. I have one wife. I can't have two wives. Do you know what I mean? That's an absolutely absurd notion.

There's a lot of unhappy married people, too, to be fair. Absolutely. But I'd never seen the guy that's juggling women all the time and is like, oh, I feel so happy, so fulfilled for a long period of time. Short-term fire. These people that are in marriages that complain about them, that's what you're supposed to do.

I'm calling my boys, yo, fellas, I had the greatest lunch with my wife. You don't do that about anything. You complain because complaining is funny. That's when it's really dangerous.

If he starts telling you how great everything is, you're like, oh, no, this guy's hell. Oh, he's beating her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's hitting his wife. Yeah, we got to save someone.

He's hitting his wife, bro. Isn't that fucked up? Yeah. That's some crazy ass shit. I don't trust you, dog. If you're like, oh, my wife and I just get along,

so we never fight, I'm like, yo, either y'all gonna break up or you're a monster. Yeah. Yeah's some crazy ass shit. I don't trust you, dog. If you're like, oh, my wife and I just get along. So we never fight. I'm like, yo, either y'all going to break up or you're a monster. Yeah. Yeah. Every time someone asks my wife and I how our marriage is doing, my wife offers up this piece of information. She goes, well, we hear the first year is the hardest. I'm like, why do we got to share this with Sharon and David? Who the fuck are they to know about the first year is the hardest?

Why are we sharing with Sharon so much? Who the fuck we sharing with Sharon about the first year's the hard? Why was Sharon with Sharon so much? Why the fuck was Sharon with Sharon? Do you know what I mean? What do you mean the first year's the hard? You know what I mean? You know it's hard

paying for these goddamn vacations. That's fucking hard. You know? See how much more fun this is to complain? Self-deplaining is good. Go out there, complain.

Get it out. Get it out the system. Yeah. But have faith that there are beautiful relationships out there. And beautiful relationships don't mean that every single fucking day is peachy

and clean and happy. You're gonna still argue. You're gonna still disagree on things. That's what life is. That was huge for me. I didn't know, because I grew up with all fights being huge. And then when I actually learned, like, yo, fighting's supposed to happen. It just doesn't have to get crazy.

I was like, oh, oh, this is normal. We're okay. I think you also, so much is fear. But what I was going to say to you, one piece of advice, I think we're all kind of realizing that alpha male, beta male shit is kind of like, eh, not really real. But I would say this. If you had a picture of what an alpha male was, would it be somebody who's so insecure that he needs to mistreat a woman to keep her with him? Or would it be somebody who's so insecure that he needs to mistreat a woman

to keep her with him or to be somebody who's like hey I'm going to treat you well and if you move on that's fine I'll get another girl

if you want to bang all the dudes in front of me that's cool that's fire I'll watch that would be sick that's the most alpha

that guy's awesome that guy's awesome that guy's the most alpha the coolest guy just take a smash from my work who needs a towel that guy's really cool yeah guy's a redneck. That guy's the most alpha. The coolest guy. Just take a smash from my work. Who needs a towel? Yeah.

That guy's really cool. Yeah, that's the most alpha dude. Yeah. Yeah, shout out the Manosphere, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How much longer do you think that exists? Forever. I think a while.

Yeah? Just different iterations of it? Probably, yeah. Yeah. You know how we had Atkins, and now it's just called Keto? There's going to be another Manosphere in 10 years after this goes away. It's going to be the same shit, different name. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, as long as it produces funny shit. Like, you could argue that Patrice is so much of my shit, Manosphere, but be funny about it at least. Like, to be honest, that's what was working for Tate. Yes. The dude was fucking hilarious. Funny and unique takes. Unique takes, man. That's it. was working for Tate. Yes. The dude was fucking hilarious. Funny and unique takes.

Unique takes. That's it. That's so redeeming. Yeah. I never heard it put like this before. It's like a comic has a great airplane joke. You're like, God damn, how do you do that? That was good. How do you do that?

I still think of his Bugatti thing. He's like, I don't let a woman drive my Bugatti because have you ever thrown a ball to a woman and seen her catch it? Hilarious. And I said this to my wife and she goes, that's not true. And I go, okay. I literally threw her like a peach in my hand.

It just immediately. Actually, no. She caught it, and then her phone fell out of her pocket, cracked on the ground. True story. Yeah, you can't let it go. I swear to God. I was like, there's no way. There's no way, dude.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My wife doesn't let me drive. What does that mean? Am I an alpha? You're an alpha. You're an alpha, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm 100%.

Yo, it's that simple. Just be funny about it. Yeah. The angry manosphere dude or the one who takes it seriously. Yeah, clown. Anybody want to hear that? Yeah, that's terrible, dude. Like, even when you're hanging with your boys and you're making jokes about women, it's funny.

Yeah. There's no dude in the group who's like, yo, fuck these bitches, bro. That guy's weird, man. That's weird, bro. Too much. Too intense. What's wrong with you? Yeah, we're just having a good fuck these bitches, bro. That's weird, man. That's weird, bro. Too intense. What's wrong with you? Yeah, we're just having a good time. You got some pussy or something, man.

Yeah. That's crazy. How do you angry a woman unless you dump a load on her belly? What? They let you do that sometimes. Yeah. How are you angry at that? That's what they prefer, I think.

It's because you can't do it. That's why he's angry. Oh, you're saying they don't get any pussy? Yeah. Oh. Because all these chads and giga't do it. That's why he's angry. Oh, you're saying they don't get any pussy? Yeah. Oh! Because all these chads and giga chads are out here just banging all the chicks. Oh! What is a giga chad?

I thought that was a toy of some kind, like on a keychain. That's that ultra chad, bro. You seen the guy with the huge jawline? Yeah. That guy's a giga chad. So they're getting all the girls, is what they're saying. Oh, dude. But that's how the world works.

Name a species that doesn't operate like that. That's true. Hold on, these Manosphere dudes are all of a sudden communists with the coochie? They want to equally spread around?

I think that's why. So you want to have millions of dollars to have fancy cars, but when it comes to pussy, you want that shit to be, what is it, Adam Smith?

No, the other guy. Karl Marx. Karl Marx? Yeah. You know what I mean? No, no, no. No, I You know what I mean? The opposite guy. No, I think they're saying that's why you need to be a high value man so you can get these girls.

That's like part of it. Yeah, but they don't want to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'd love if the pussy was just there, right? So the fact that you have to go achieve this thing, what are they understanding that these are the rules? Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Hmm. So not everything they say is some toxic shit.

Like, yeah, sure, go be that. Go make all the money you want. But then actually feel that on the inside. Don't just make money and then be like, oh, if I don't get this girl. Yo, you can get laid. I mean, I know people are going to say, like, you're 6'2 and beautiful, but like. No one's going to say that. No one's going to say that.

I know they're going to say, like, you're 6'2 and absolutely beautiful and have a full beard, but like. They're not going to say that. That's what people always tell me. You're 5'7 and gorgeous and you've never had sex with anyone except one person. Exactly. So, you know. That ain't like, that doesn't make sense. But I need knowing, though.

But I need knowing, though. Yeah, high value, bro. High value. Yo, yo. If you ever want to feel good about yourself, tell a dude that don't get no pussy that it's easy to get pussy. Because he'll explain everything about you that makes you get pussy.

Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's easy for you to say. You have all your teeth. The perfect teeth and your long legs and your great ass and your abs are fucking amazing.

It's like, god damn. I think he wants to fuck you. I think he might want to. Yeah. That's the thing. I don't get why they're so mad at women. It seems like they're mad at other dudes

that are banging all the women. Like, you're mad at the other dudes that are higher than you in the hierarchy. Yeah. So, like, direct banging all the women. Like, you're mad at the other dudes that are higher than you in the hierarchy. Yeah. So, like, direct your anger towards them. Also, don't make money before you get pussy. Get pussy first.

You don't have to make money to get pussy at all. But make sure you get pussy before you make money because I don't think you'll ever be able to respect women if you didn't get no pussy, then you made money, and then you start getting pussy because that confirms your worst nightmare. And you're probably hanging around women

that genuinely like you for your money. Exactly. That small percentage of women that only do that, yeah, you're going to get confirmation. And then when you find a girl

who doesn't really care but actually likes you, you're not going to trust it at all. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's number one. Do not become a high-value man before you get some pussy.

The worst advice I could ever give men for truly loving and appreciating women is becoming a high-value man and getting some pussy. Get some pussy. The worst advice I could ever give men for truly loving and appreciating women is becoming a high value man and getting some pussy. Get some pussy when you're the lowest value man. Yeah. Because then you look at these women like they love personality. Yeah. Right? They love chat. They want to be entertained. Look at Dove. Yeah. Dove a medium value man. He's approaching high value. He's approaching high value right there. No, Dove, Dove done beat out high value,

meant high value. Listen, listen, let me define high value. High value, what they call high value is just rich. Yeah. What we call high value is something else. Dove is great value. That's what Dove is. Dove is high value, but he's not rich.

Great value is great, dude. You mean like the store brand? Yeah, exactly. Oh, God, Dan, you call them BJs, bro. Oh, God, Dan. Like the Walmart store brand? No, but great value. Like you get all the things you want on a date, you know, funny, charming. I'm a Tesla right now. Not unattainable, you know?

I'll be a Bugatti. He's going to be a Bugatti soon. I guess what I'm trying to say is like Dove is proof. Obviously intelligent, good-looking guy, but amazing chat, knows how to make women feel comfortable, right? And got laid way before you, when you were in debt. Motherfucker was minus. Alex Jones. What?

You were in debt, getting pussy like crazy. It was the first girlfriend thing. Nobody loves women more than Dove. That's true. Think about that. Think about that. You love women, don't you? The first love story was still to be like the hottest girl.

That was like the Chris Rock episodes, like never let your son date the hot girl at school. It's getting boring. Hold on. It's getting boring. Uh-oh. No, I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Go, go, go, go, go. That was mean. I was mean right there. That was mean. I just complimented the fuck out of you. That was mean. I don't need these anymore.

I just complimented the fuck out of you. Okay. No, but in all seriousness, go. You have the first love story. No, that built the confidence. The fact, no, I felt like you, oh, I guess. Well, I didn't know you before. But the fact that you could come back from the first big breakup? No, no, just that I could get that girl based off of just in high school, being personality, being fun, being cool.

Wasn't the captain of the football team. I was the captain of my volleyball team, though. Was captain of the volleyball team. Oh, that's high value. That's high value. But still, was not the richest kid in school or anything like that. No. But was incredibly likable.

Not at all, right? You were like living in an apartment at a super fancy private school. I'm not saying that to make fun of you. No, no, no. Beverly Hills High School. Wow. That's fire. This is like the opposite of an insult.

Yeah. It's like, you get girls despite the fact how shitty you are. It was a public school, just with a cool name, Beverly Hills High School. Oh, I thought it was a private school. You have to live in Beverly Hills so you could live in a mansion or an apartment. And you lived in? There we go. What'd I say? No, no, he had a beautiful home.

No, no, no, but in high school it was an apartment. They got an incredible deal on, probably. Probably figured out some way to finagle the system. Moved out of hard work. They were squatters, let's be honest. You guys were squatting? Yeah, squatting the Hollywood Hills. There would be a guy who would come knock on the window, and all of them would just jump to the floor.

Maybe they thought it was Kanye. No, it was the Palestinians. They were like, Palestinians? I know. But my point is, you have zero resentment for women. I don't want to say zero, but I don't see you as someone who hates women. I don't see you as someone who talks badly towards women.

You appreciate them. You also know how to connect with them, right? and it doesn't seem like you have that much resentment I remember like when you were dating a bit in LA it was there was a little bit of frustration with the apps because they took away yeah but they took away what was so great about you with women which is the charm the chat hanging out it just became the meat market where they're just swiping on pictures it And it's like, I know how this story ends because I would be around girls who would tell me about all this terrible dating they're going through and I'd be like, yo, ask me why this

is happening like this and you basically become guys. No, that's actually what's really interesting is like the apps have forced them to focus even more on this high value male type situation. Whereas before, when you had to meet a girl, you had to meet them out in public,

and the guys who were willing to go up and talk probably were better at chopping it up. You know, a little bit funnier, more charisma. Now it's just bio data, bro. Straight bio data. Sam, we were onto that, though. Maybe these Mansphere guys are right, dude. Maybe they're fucking right.

I think so, dude. But then you could also say that, like, faking value in a picture is the easiest thing you could ever do in your life think so, dude. But then you could also say that faking value in a picture is the easiest thing you could ever do in your life. Oh, yeah. Rent a car for a day. Picture. Done. That's good value. That's great value. Yeah.

I guess what I'm trying to say is you seem like the one that has the least resentment or animosity towards women at all, and you do incredibly well, and you're not out here flaunting billions of fucking dollars so what have you learned you're still single but what have you learned i mean i actually say it's getting worse really like what i feel that i'll be the head of the manosphere in the next six months

no but someone would really have to impress me that it's that different. Wouldn't it be funny if he left the pod, joined the Manosphere, and then was richer than all of us? Yeah. That'd be great.

But I don't want the money, guys. I want the love. That's what I'm chasing. Chasing that feeling. Yes. So hopefully they realize this. Hopefully a lot of guys that are influenced

and realize this. But also still appreciate the jokes. Yeah. Keep going with the jokes. Jokes are great. I haven't heard a good banger from Tate in a minute. I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss it.

Yeah, he's been off. He got to get special permission from an imam. Yeah, yeah. To be like, yo, you can still say that wild shit. You know what I mean? Allah has a sense of humor too. He's like a loss leader for the brand. You know what I mean?

Exactly. You can do whatever you want, but you're helping bring people in. You know what I mean? Exactly. You can do whatever you want but you're helping bring people in. Get out there in the world. He's a loss leader. Start mixing it up. That's so good. Get out there

but just bring people back into the flag. You know what I mean? That's what it is. I need some bangers, bro. That's a good one. That shit about the driving a car.

That's good. That's brilliant, dude. Great. Test it out. Go home. Don't even ask. Just toss a tennis ball. Just see what happens. See it out. Go home. Don't even ask. Just toss a tennis ball. Just see what happens.

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I don't even know. You don't need to go to that ship. Art Basel is everything that I disliked about Miami squeezed into one week. Nice. Why did you go? Well, we went because it was a friend of ours engagement party, which was phenomenal.

Oh, okay. And congratulations, by the way, O camilla beautiful amazing party but our basel itself looking at art is really fun cool thing about art is you don't have to have taste it's what affects you you know i mean like if you see some picture and these fucking people don't like it but you like it go buy that picture go buy them painting yeah so it's you know Reaction is going to get evoked in you, and then you can buy that piece of art. It doesn't matter what they fucking think. If you're buying it so that you can have some sort of investment,

now you've got to care what everybody worries about. But if you just want to have it up in your room so you can look at it because it makes you feel a certain way, that's great. Do it. So seeing the art was really cool. But I think what happened is that what I loved about Miami was there was this great Latin cultural influence where people were having fun. And they were so fucking welcoming and happy and smiling and wanting to party, wanting to have a drink, wanting to eat some food.

It felt like the holidays every single day. It felt like family. There was positivity that you often don't see. And listen, I'm a New Yorker through and through. I love it. But a lot of times we can get, you know, caught up in a rat race a little bit and not have that same like outward positivity.

Yeah. But down there, it was a fucking positive. If you walk slow, you'll get yelled at in New York. Exactly. Let's go. We got a place to be. Yeah. So what Arbazel was,

was just a combination of the things that I did not like about Miami, which was like pretentiousness, not even pretentious, like just the clout chasing, money hungry. The thing about Miami is it didn't feel exclusive. It was like everybody coming in together, let's fucking do it. And this was exclusivity.

Yeah. It was like, which I didn't feel these things regularly when I was in Miami, or seldomly I felt them, but this week it was like super heightened. Everybody looking to see if they're about to find a famous person. Everybody trying to be in this picture at this cool party or getting on the list of this. I was just like, yuck. This is super exclusive though, right? What?

Getting into Art Basel. You have to be invited. They have to accept your invitation. No, no, no. You can go and see the exhibits. I mean, it's genius. It's like five people are buying these expensive works, but they'll charge 60 bucks a person to get into one of these halls. Museums in the gallery or whatever.

The gallery where, you know, there'll be ones definitely for emerging artists, but that's what you're doing. You're walking around, but then there's music festivals. There's DJs. Just to walk in a hotel, it's like, you know, you have to show up. 40 minutes for an Uber. It's like, to me, the party didn't feel any different than a regular party weekend in Miami.

That's the thing. So it's like, it's no different than what you can access in Miami. But now the Ubers are 40 minutes. And the hotels are way more expensive. The traffic is insane. It's just like, it's all the worst things squeezed into four days. And apparently, I was talking to a buddy of mine who runs a gallery up in

Palm Beach, and he was just like, the real Art Basel is Monday, Tuesday, where the people who actually care about the art go. And you go look at all these works, and then you go to some parties that are run by some art people. Not a party where it's just like every fucking IG model is there. You're going to see a lot of talent, but the fact that like they're all there, you know

that they don't give a fuck about art. Right. I don't give a fuck about art. Yeah. Right? But I was going, oh, is this a unique cultural thing? And of course our friends are getting engaged and throwing a party for it. Yeah.

So I'm like, you just, it's like everybody is here to be looked at instead of look at shit. And the whole part of art is you're looking at it. And you're even about to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I don't know. I would not go back. No interest in going back to the park.

That said, the Thursday party with Blondish, plus the engagement party, but talk about the Thursday rave that we went to. That video of you running by is so funny. I sent it to the group. No, you retweeted it. I did. It's just Blondish spinning, and then you just see Andrew run back with just a white beater on, his hair flapping in the wind, just looking mad happy. I don't know if you're on mushrooms or what. Mad people sent me that video.

Like, my personal friends were like, yo, come get your boy. Like, what is going on? You were just going crazy in the booth. Son, I rave, bro. Yeah, you're a raver, dude. Plur, dude. I fucking plur it up, dude. Now, there's a, yeah, Blondie does this shit, man.

She throws an absolutely amazing party so connecting with her was dope and that was fucking fun that was cool she seems great

she's fire I mean her show the show was just incredible any other cool link ups? did we? eh not really I just

what I would say is like you could go Blondish is one of the best DJs in the world right now. Go see her at a non-Basel. Exactly. Like see her, wherever she is this weekend,

go see her. If she's in your country or city, just go see her. She's great. You don't need to put yourself through that fucking Basel. 40 minutes for an Uber and it says it's eight minutes away

for 40 minutes. Yeah, it's infuriating. And then once you get in it, you're still waiting. That's the best part. You're in traffic. No, we just love staying at the house. We hung out with the culprit guys.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out Dylan's speedy recovery. Shout out, guys. Broke his foot. Oh, yeah, Dylan broke his foot. I've been there. At the engagement party. I've been had a broken foot listening to Blondie.

Now you're a little bullshit to get to. Was it a Liz Frank? What was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. Son, me and Des Bryant got the same injury. What can I tell you? I mean, that's crazy. Did you put your card in the mischief ATM?

No, but that guy, I'm sorry, I'm fucking forgetting his name right now, but he hit me up. He's like, yeah, you got to come down to the ATM. Did you see it when you were there? No, because I don't think we were at that one. And I wanted to go, but I literally didn't because I was like, do I want to wait for an Uber for 40 minutes? Really? Yeah, it just ruins the vibe. It feels like what people in LA go through where you're like, your friend can ask you to come over, and you have to calculate how much traffic you'll have to go through coming back.

Yeah. And that will stop you from just going to your friend's house that should be 20 minutes away, but now it's an hour and 20 minutes away. All my text messages were telling people how I can't link up with them. Like, you are in your group for that weekend, and just don't even bother. So Mischief, who's the brand that's behind the Lil Nas X, what's it called? link up with them. You are in your group for that weekend, and just don't even bother. So Mischief, who's the brand that's behind the little Nas X, what's it called? Sneakers. They do a bunch of cool shit.

They did the car, did you see this? The Key for All? Where they basically have one car, it's a PT Cruiser, and they sold like 5,000 keys. And all the keys unlock the car and can drive the car. Oh, that's far.

And the idea is like, okay, we're going to just put the car in some random place, and everyone has an app that gets you to the tracker that tells you where the car and can drive the car. Oh, that's far. And the idea is like, okay, we're going to just put the car in some random place. And everyone has an app that gets you to the tracker that tells you where the car is. So once you buy a key, you know where the car is and you have a key that unlocks it. So people are like flying from LA to like Boston to like go get the car to unlock it. I think it started in Brooklyn. I believe.

And now it's... Casey Neistat started with the car. Yeah, Casey like drove it right at the beginning. And now literally like people will just meet you. And the rules of the game are like, if you see them, you have to trade keys. Or you have to trade off the car. So you'll pull up to someone and be like, hey, I have the key, and they go, all right, you take it. It's like tag.

Yeah, literally. That's cool. It's just this collaborative effort to be like, okay, how long can the car stay alive for? And so some guy got it who's a mechanic, and he brought it into his shop and cleaned it up, detailed the whole thing, and so it was in great shape. Another guy was an artist. He painted the whole thing. So it's just like

this big group effort just to do shit and so Mischief did it it was dope yeah they're fucking great yeah so they basically put this ATM that displays

your account balance yeah and people were going and running it up and I was thinking what is the game with this because I was going to go there and I'm like

I don't want to win you know what I mean it seems like a no win like if my account balance is mad high I'm going to get anxious because everybody's going to know it's not going to go there and I'm like, I don't want to win. You know what I mean? It seems like a no win. Like if my account balance is mad high, I'm going to get anxious because everybody's going to know. It's not going to be number one. But even if it's low, I'm going to be fucking embarrassed. There's a complete lose-lose.

Yeah. It's like how do you find a way to – your picture is displayed. The amount is displayed. I don't need all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there is a fun game with it. If you're going to have debt, that's kind of funny. Debt would be funny. How do I be last?

Having negative is kind of cool. And I asked, and there was like a big line. I was like, yo, if I come by, I'm not waiting on that fucking line. He's like, okay, I can get to the front of the line. I'm like, okay, what is the game that I can play? I'm not about to like move some funds and try to win. No, if you move funds to lose, though, that'd be hilarious. Move funds to lose is dope.

Yeah. How do you become guaranteed last? That's zero to lose, though, that'd be hilarious. Move funds to lose is dope. Yeah. How do you become guaranteed less? That's zero. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or negative. Negative. What else could you do? ATM?

I mean, have a funny number, like 666 or some shit, 69, 69. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. But yeah, that's kind of it. That's really the only way to win. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

I thought it was a good idea. It was a great example of not only marketing, but also art. How do people have that much money in their checking account? That's what I also't know. I thought it was a good idea. It was a great example of not only marketing, but also art. How do people have that much money in their checking account? That's what I also was wondering. Because nobody's paid taxes yet. Nobody's paid taxes yet, so you have all your money that's in there. Also, aren't you investing in something, though? In your checking account?

Just move it for a dollar. Five million dollars in a checking account? That seems stupid. You take it out of your fucking whatever money market savings account. That's not a lot of work. You just move it over. No. With Bank of America app, you could do it, switch from savings to checking.

Right, right. But still, usually people would have those types of money. It's probably in a different account. I'm calling Goldman Sachs to move money into my checking for it. You know what I mean? Like, come on. Yeah, for a little clout, for a little clout. So why are other people going to Arbazel?

Are they trying to network and connect with people? No, it's the most attractive scene, if you actually want to just rage. Yeah, there's tons of beautiful people there. Every big DJ's out there. I mean, you guys were there, so yeah. Yeah, we're the beautiful people. But for what we know about it, moving around the way we did and having that freedom, it's just you could get everything you want.

I'm sure we didn't do it right, to be honest with you. I'm sure we should have seen more art. We should have probably went to some parties on some fucking yachts or something like that. I don't think we did the best version of Art Basel. Speak for yourself. What are you talking about? You decided

not to go and do this or that. What are you talking about? What do you mean? What just happened? You wanted to stay at the house and then you were, oh, I want to see some art. What are you talking about? Yeah. What do you mean? What just happened? You wanted to stay at the house, and then you were, oh, I want to see some art on the day after. What are you talking about? You're saying that we would have done it right. I thought we did it right. I'm happy with what we did, but I don't think we did Art Basel.

In the way that people say you need to enjoy Art Basel. Yeah, like we didn't go to some crazy fucking late night yacht party. We didn't do any of that kind of stuff. We went to a mansion party the first night. Yeah, like we didn't go to some crazy fucking late night yacht party. We didn't do any of that kind of stuff. We went to a mansion party the first night. Yeah, mid. We went to a Don Julio host dinner. That mansion party was supposed to be like the party to go to. Bro, this thing sucked, dude.

Tell me the girls weren't smoke shows then. Oh, yeah, but it's like so what? But I'm just saying it's what. This is just a married mindset versus a non-married mindset of what you're saying, though. But just the idea is like- Well, where did the yacht party have been? We live and work in Soho, New York. I didn't see more hot girls in that part of Miami than we see right outside the studio every single day.

Soho is absolutely bananas. Soho is specifically bananas. We can go outside. The greatest concentration Of attractive girls Really? It's the same one right? I think How many did you

Did you do anything? Did I not Some other things? Yeah no Okay okay I'm just saying Listen Seeing a lot of hot girls

In the same place Isn't like the most shocking thing So it's a disappointing But you did it Is what I'm saying You did it right You just didn't like what I'm saying. You did it right. You just didn't like it. I don't think we did it right. Don't be insulted, but

I don't think we did it right. Tell me what you didn't do right. It sounds like you did it right. It sounds like it might just suck. Yeah, you just didn't like it. We didn't go to Yacht. You just knows that around Dubbo. I didn't do any Yacht stuff He just knows that around Dubbo. He's just like, what is the one thing that we didn't do? I didn't do any yacht stuff.

He went to a sponsored event by the not Don Julio 1942, but like 1942's fucking Papa Bear. The extra Yeho. You did these events properly. You just didn't like it. It's okay. Not for you. No, I didn't like it. So there you go.

I wouldn't go back. The opposite of Burning Man. Yeah. Exclusive closed off IP. It seems like the opposite of Burning Man except the people are still rich. Can I tell you something? One-eighth of the amount of attractive women

that were at Burning Man. Like, imagine a party at Burning Man and then just pick just the ugliest of the women and that's what the best party was. That's who Doug was hooking up with? No, no, Doug was talking to a beautiful girl. It seems like Burning Man is almost like rich people kind of like, this is going to sound more meaner than I mean it to, but kind of cosplaying what poor people go through.

100%. And then Art Basel's rich people being like, let's just be fucking rich. Yeah, yeah. How about that? Yeah, yeah. Let's be in mansions and yachts. Burning Man is Montana in the desert. Yes. You know how rich people go to Montana because. Burning Man is Montana in the desert. Yes.

You know how rich people go to Montana because they're like, I want to be a cowboy. I want to get in touch with humanity or whatever like that. Burning Man is that. I want to be a desert person. I want to be Mad Max. But while you're in Montana, you do get in touch with nature. It feels good, right? You're like, wow,

it's nice to look at these mountains it's nice to be on the river it's nice to fish this is really enjoyable even though you're putting on the costume i'm getting away from all of it it's kind of nice to get away and the same thing i think happens with burning you put on the costume but then it fucking works i can't remember what the hell it is what was that goddamn something wager pascal's wager you know live a god-fearing life even if god doesn't exist because you actually feel better doing it. And then shit, if you end up doing it, if heaven's real, that was a good wager you put up. It's a good upside, yeah.

Yeah. I'm curious if this is you getting more well-known. Events like this are less interesting. Because some people go and they're like, I mean, it was pretty cool, but also Andrew Schultz was there, and this TikTok guy was there, and this other person I know was there. And so that was really cool, but you're a part of their attraction. You see you whenever you want. And then you go, and you're like, I don't really care about the TikTok guy I met and the other thing. This is interesting.

It's like once you remove exclusivity, the party is the party. Yeah. Not even remove exclusivity, you are the exclusivity. Like you bring the exclusivity, the party is the party. Yeah. Not even remove exclusivity, you are the exclusivity. Like, you bring the exclusivity. I guess what I'm trying to say is, like, once you're invited or allowed to be at a place or people want you, now you're just judging the party as how fun the party is. Yeah. See what I'm saying? Whereas before that, if you shouldn't be in a place

and then you get in, you're just excited to be there. Yeah, exactly. If you're in the club with P. Diddy, you're having an awesome time. But if you're P. Diddy, you're like, I'm just in a club.

It really depends on the party at that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? So it's like, if you're P. Diddy and you're at this party, you're like,

oh, the DJ's fire. That's the thing. The Blondish thing is like, it wasn't fun just because we were there with her. It was fun because she's fucking a great DJ and she was rocking that shit. Right?

So, yeah, it's interesting. You have a more objective perspective on the party. And maybe that's why Burning Man's great. It's because it's like, fucking A. It's so much goddamn fun. Not for all of us. Or every one of you, I don't know, if you guys felt this way on the way in, I was like, ugh, the RV's going to break. We're

not going to get in. Well, you definitely went through it. You're like, I'm not going to be able to get here. It's not going to be able to happen. Then you finally do go. But yeah, that is an interesting perspective. I don't want to take that away from people who are really excited to be in that place. But once you can go. I wonder if that's what happens with chicks or just people, not only just chicks, but people in relationships with others because of the clout or because of the financial benefit. Once you have the clout and you have the financial benefit locked in, now it's really, do you like that person? And if the relationship falls apart, it's like, well, you never really liked it. You like the clout.

You like people talking about you. That tells you everything you needed to know. Yeah, it strips away all the other shit that would make someone interesting. But in that moment, it's hard to be self-reflective. You're dating somebody, you're getting so much clout from it, you actually might think that that is butterflies for that person. Right, right. Yeah. I don't think people are doing it maliciously. No. Where they're like, oh, I'm using this person. That's what you theorize about Kanye and Julia Fox was they were getting, they got together and they were getting

all this like attention from everywhere and everybody's eating it up. So they were both like, oh, we're getting all these great, we're getting this great feeling from the outside, but we think it's probably us two giving it to each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That same void is being filled. Yeah. So it's hard for you. You can't discern if it's external or right here. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think people do that where they go to parties and they're like, dude, the party was insane. I met this guy. And all these hot girls were there and whatever else. And then you're like, okay, if you take away the things that you valued in that situation with this social hierarchy, then was it actually good? And you're like, yeah, the music kind of sucked and I was kind of drunk and that was it.

Yeah, this house party, which was like the one on that day, I don't know, it was just like, I don't know, boring. Everyone else probably. That's what I'll admit to it. It was. Everybody's looking to see if somebody's there. They're looking at you. Everyone else had a great time because they're like, bro,

this fucking comedian I love was there. Yeah, he's going to be like, dude, this party sucked. I just kept getting stared at. It's fucking annoying, man. And then notice the things he likes. He's like, dude, I wanted to go into nature. Like, I wanted to be out in the woods where no one was there. Like, that was awesome.

Yeah. Or just have cool conversations with people, like, about art or something. That would have been kind of cool. Yeah. But. What, dude? art or something that would have been kind of cool shut the fuck up what dude that'd be cool oh god that was so good

he was just so like outwardly he wants to meet 20 year olds and talk about how many TikTok followers yeah exactly that's what he's really into what do you like about it, Dov? I actually didn't go expecting to want to see art. He didn't say you wanted to see art one fucking time before that.

That's actually a lie. No. When you were there. I believe Dov. Beforehand. We went there for an engagement party. Yeah, I went to the engagement party. Yeah.

And then when I was there, I was like, I'd like to see some art. This is an art festival. Okay. And you had the option, again, on Friday. And you wanted to stay at the house and just fucking hang. That is on me. 40-minute Uber, though. 40-minute Uber.

Who's going to do that? Someone who likes art. I don't know. I do think that's an interesting thing. I kind of understand. I don't know if this is necessarily true. But you see movie stars that do this where like they'll get famous and then like they'll have that turn where they're like i just want to like like brad pitt's like making art and shit and i'm like like he's like painting

and like sculpting and he's like this painting means this and i do think that like if you're removed from like those normal social circles and every single event kind of feels like a little bland because people are looking at you and you can't even experience the thing anymore and again it's not anyone's fault it's just the nature of like how the hierarchy works then you're like okay now i'm interested in like creating something and personal connection and like real shit that like actually matters could even just be like when johnny depp you remember we stayed at a place he used to live at in the hollywood hills it was super like you could not fucking get to it we couldn't figure out how to get out then he went and lived in fr. It's just like I don't want to be.

You strip away all the other shit, like all the fame and all the lights that I'm used to now, I don't like any of this. I'm just going to go live where the fuck I want to live. I don't want to be around it. That is actually. I'm not saying that's you, but I am saying I've seen that happen with other people.

I think it's a little bit different in the way that I have kind of played the game. Obviously, I'm not even close to a level of a guy like Johnny Depp or whatever, where they're going to be doing some super weird shit. But I've consistently wanted to do the same things, which is collaborate with my friends, and go on adventures with my friends. Burning Man was an adventure. We didn't make any money on Burning Man. We demonetized the episode specifically to go along with like the Burning Man values, right?

But I wanted you guys to all be there and I wanted us to do something fun together and enjoy that together. Even doing the pod is like let's do something fun together.

To me, when we go to, and Dove fucking hates this, but when we go on the road, I don't want to party after. What do I want to do? Eat. Yeah.

It's not about food. No, it's the hang. I don't want to party after. What do I want to do? Eat. It's not about food. No, it's the hang. 100%. I want to just talk to you guys, and I want one of you guys to say something wild, and then we tease this person. It's like the podcast. The reason this is natural for us is because this is just kind of like what we all enjoy to do. Before this, we're doing it out there, and then after it, we're going to do it out there. So for me, I guess going to one of those fancy cool parties before I had any level of fame at all, I guess was exciting for what you mentioned earlier. It's like, oh, my God, these people are going to be there.

When you're 25 and you're in L.A. and you get to go to a party and meet a celebrity, it's like, oh, that's cool. But I never really enjoyed the dynamic at those parties because it's not the thing that I enjoy doing. But when you get to see, it makes up for a lot. Your emotions are conflated where you're like, did I like this or is it because of this famous person? Yeah, I like that there's that famous guy. And it's still exciting to see it. Last night, fucking 50 Cent is on the flight coming back. And it was so cool.

I introduced him to my wife, but I called him my wife and Emma. It was weird. I was like, oh, hi, this is my wife. Did that on the phone with us? What's that? You were on the phone with us. I was on the phone. We were talking about... It was 50 Cent. I did not know that was 50 Cent. Oh, you guys didn't. He said it. No one else heard it, I guess. I literally go, I go,

babe, this is an absolute legend. And then I look at him, and I go, this is my wife. Hey, you. While I'm, and then he kind of smiled and he was, this is how much respect I have for 50 Cent. I thought he was in the seat behind me directly and I didn't even put my seat back for like an hour.

That is a lot of respect. I gave him an hour of a three hour flight where I was like, he might be crammed. You know what I mean? That's 50 Cent. Like, I love, I get crammed 50 Cent. Then I found out it was my wife's seat where I was like, he might be crammed. You know what I mean? That's 50 Cent. Like, I love it. I get crammed 50 Cent. Then I found out it was my wife's seat, and I was like, boom.

I just dropped that shit back. What's up, 50? Can I get a head massage? Hello? So, like, I think there is that. Having that, there is that excitement that we all have in being around these people, blah, blah, blah. Dude, like nine years ago, my friends went to 4040 Club to watch the finals and one of them got a high five from Jay-Z. They still talk about it

to this day. Yeah. It's the fucking coolest thing that will ever happen to them. Yeah, and I don't think that ever goes away when you're really excited about the people you're meeting.

But when the people at the party are some fucking private equity douche, I'm like, oh, God, I shook hands with the guy who makes money off of people's money. He trades money overseas

for different money to make more money. Wow. Whoa, dude. That's crazy. Like, fuck that. I'm dropping my seat immediately. Before we take off, I'm dropping my seat. You could use some discomfort, you fucker.

Yeah, exactly. Fuck you. Yeah, get a private jet. Anyway, so yeah, I think that's a good point. Yeah. Being able to focus on the things that bring you joy. And I'm so fucking, I think about that. I'm so lucky that I get immense joy from hanging around with my friends.

Like, that is the pinnacle of joy. Yeah. And my friends, my wife, even spending time with my wife, like, that's a fucking awesome time. So, shocking. Shockingly. That's an awesome time. No, but how lucky. There are people that they need to jump out of a plane to feel anything. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people, you have a good group, but imagine you were 10 times more well-known and had no social circle. You didn't hang with the people you went to college or high school with. Dude, back in the day, you moved to LA. You left everybody you knew behind. You go to LA. the people you went to college or high school with. Dude, back in the day, you moved to L.A. You left everybody you knew behind.

You go to L.A. The people you meet are also just trying to be famous. You probably feel like most of these friendships aren't real. Then you get all the fame and all the shit that you wanted, but then it's this thing that you're feeling magnified times probably 100 because they had five channels back then. You can't trust any relationship. That's why I'm low-key empathetic to these crazy celebrities that do crazy shit where they think they're all distant and saving the world and think they're whatever the fuck.

Because I get how—I mean, granted, it's their fault. They've removed themselves from all the people that were around them to go pursue this thing and left a lot of people behind. And that eventually, I think, bit them. But I understand how those circumstances take place and can kind of warp your brain. And pre-internet, you didn't have really an option to be famous in Des Moines. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you've got to go to Hollywood. You had to remove yourself. You can't. Dude, that's

an interesting point about them. And now look at a famous celeb that's been famous since they were a kid. Yeah, your brain's fucked. They never had the opportunity to develop those relationships. Like, we all went to high school, we went to college. We're sitting in this room with our friends from college. Every well-adjusted child star is a fucking miracle.

Yeah. I don't think they exist. You see some that seem cool enough. Maybe there's a couple, but it's very rare. But I understand that. Like, that makes perfect sense. And the only way I could see them being well-adjusted is if their family was incredibly tight-knit. And I don't know how you can have a good parental figure and allow your kid to be famous. Like, you said this once to me.

You were texting me. You said, like, it should be illegal to want your kid to be famous. You said this once to me. You were texting me. You said it should be illegal to want your kid to be famous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That should be absolutely illegal. When you look at the numbers, right? There are parents who go, I don't want my kid playing football. Why? Well, it could hurt his brain.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How could you let your child be famous? That's an initiative we need to start in the city. No more famous kids. You do an audition, and if you bring your kid, you get arrested. You go to prison. Like literally. You go to prison. Like literally. You go to prison forever.

Forever. It's like Chris Hansen but for bad parents. Yeah, exactly. Chris Hansen should do that. He should show up there. That's his next iteration. That is,

you could save a lot of kids. You could do it with Catch Predator. Be like, hey, do you want your kid to be the other kid that the people come and meet? And if you want them to be that actor,

go to jail. Go to jail fucking immediately. And then you're there with the pedophile. You guys in the same cell. Talk it out. Where you deserve to be. You both abuse kids. Both trying to fuck your immediately. And then you're there with the pedophile. You guys in the same cell. Talk it out. Where you deserve to be. You both abuse kids.

Both trying to fuck your kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. Yeah, it's just a shocking thing. And I always bring up this example, but I'll watch these SVU episodes because my wife loves these crime shows. And SVU specifically has a lot of molestation shit in it, right?

Because it's special victims units, really fucked up crimes that happen to sexual assault and also child assault or whatever. That they play at three in the afternoon. Isn't that a little wild? That's hilarious. Coming home. Let me put on something to calm me down. Daytime TV. But the fact that there's a child

playing the role and there's a parent, I know I've said this on other pods before, but there's a parent that is reading the script and going, I think that my daughter would be good for this. My daughter would be a good rape victim. Crazy. And then crazy. Can you act a little more raped?

No. There's a director that has to look at a child and be like, be a little more raped. Nope. Get Hasbulla to do it. Yeah, that's what you need. He's got to play every role. Every single one. Every kid role, you got to be at least over 18 to play the kid.

I believe in that. Get Hasbulla. Use the midgets or whatever like that. Every single one. Every kid role, you got to be at least over 18 to play the kid. I believe in that. Get Hezbollah. Use the midgets or whatever like that. Yeah, exactly. For real. And then they're like, that kid looks a little bit like a dwarf. Thank God. It fucks up the scene a little, but it's for the best of humanity.

100%. It fixes society. Yeah. Let's sacrifice a little bit of art here. Yeah, exactly. Use your imaginations, guys. That's what this whole thing is about. Can we use AI?

Yeah. Like Smeagol. Smeagol wasn't a real actor. AI the kid. Yes. Use a regular, like an old person who's been raped, who's gone through that, and they have those experiences that they can actually pull something out of. Yes.

And then Smeagol it. Facetune him, make him young again. There we go. Yeah. Use the AI. They're doing that for Harrison Ford. They're going to make him look young for 1923. You know they're going to make him look 1923. No, they're doing it for the next Indiana Jones.

And he's like, they're going to do, he's going to do Indiana Jones as young Indiana Jones. And they're doing that anti-aging shit where they like reverse his face. Do that with every child actor. There it is. Yeah. We can fix that. Yeah, there's something wrong about that. It's fucked.

Like wanting your kid to be famous. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of times it comes out of desperation. So it's like kind of a double like compound. They can't be that desperate if they're taking them to auditions. Get a job, bitch.. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of times it comes out of desperation. So it's like kind of a double compound. They can't be that desperate if they're taking them to auditions. Get a job, bitch. Yeah, get a job, though. Fucking tell me.

Right? Like, the fuck are you so desperate for? How are you free on 2 p.m. and you want the kid to make money? Because she sees the upside. She's like, okay, if I can get my kid in this thing, I'll take one shift off. Play the lotto, bitch. What the fuck are you talking about? So you're planning to use your kid like a dairy cow.

Yeah. You're going to take the money from your kid that they're getting fake rape for. They're desperate. That's my point. They're desperate. They take their kid and bring him over. Scratch off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Get another addiction. Just as much of a chance. Yeah. What brought us to this, though? Oh, yeah, them not having a chance to be like normal, like fulfilled human beings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's a sad thing.

Without some type of anchor, whether it's like religion, family, friend group, relationship, parents. Well, go, go, go. Getting well known just will warp your brain. I completely understand like why these religious figures can so easily, I don't want to use the word infiltrate, but maybe infiltrate. Like Carl Lentz, the Hillsong dude. And like him being able to build these like deep relationships with a guy like Bieber and a bunch of other celebrities and basketball players, etc. It makes sense because when you look at basketball players, specifically athletes, they are also child stars in a way. Ever since they're young, they're organizations that are reaching out to them, trying to get things from them, not really speaking to them in an honest way, using them for their ability, and their whole

life becomes so transactional. They might have teammates that they love to play with. Hopefully they've built those bonds, but then those break when they go to the whatever charter high school they do to play, or whatever college they do to play. They don't always get to take their friends with them. So,

fuck, man. Everybody's trying to extract something from you. Not only is he not trying to extract from you, he's trying to give something from you not only is he not trying to extract from you he's trying to give to you oh exactly so now you have these religious figures they come in

they try to give you they try to help you they're the only fucking person in your life that's trying to help you and give to you I completely understand why that works

completely yes it's a unique feeling for these guys how many people go to Justin Bieber and go hey can I help you

can I just hang out you want to talk you want to talk about your life? I don't want anything from you. I don't need a single penny from you. Just tell me what you're frustrated about. Dude, Bieber's life is incredible, but I feel bad for the fact that since you were 11 years old, the entire world has had a very strong feeling about you one way or the other,

and you have just been in the center of, you're in the paparazzi headlines when you're like 12 years old or whatever. It's just crazy, man. I feel bad for that. Like how he grew up to be normal, if it wasn't for God, I don't think it happens. He needed that. Yeah. It's really interesting. Like having those strong religious ties, at least there's like a community and I'm sure within the community, there are people who will try to extract things from you, but at least they know it's wrong what they're doing. Like if you're going to church to get in touch with God, you know, you don't need to count my wrong what they're doing. If you're going to church to get in touch with God, you don't need to count my pockets while we're

at church. At least there's this moment, but having that space, yeah, dude. I will say, I don't really feel bad, but I do empathize. I bet you if you asked me, you were like, yo, what would you rather have? Overall, his life is great. I feel bad for that one thing. One million percent, yeah. So that's why I'm like, I empathize when people are overly critical,

but I'm like, nah, I'm sure he's probably... No, I don't want to make it seem like I feel bad for that one thing. One million percent, yeah. So that's why I'm like, I empathize with people who are overly critical, but I'm like, nah, I'm sure he's probably like... No, I don't want to make it seem like I feel bad for him and not kids in Africa. I'll be honest, I feel bad. What do you mean? I don't know. And I mean this sincerely. As high as I've gotten off of Tesla or Ecstasy,

I have felt that by laughing with you guys and laughing with my boys. Like I've genuinely reached chemical levels of ecstasy without drugs. Yeah. Just by hanging around with friends and absolutely dying laughing at a situation or circumstance. Yeah. Staying laughing at a situation or circumstance. Telling stories together, reliving those stories, just having meals, plotting what our goals are. Like, I've reached those levels.

I've experienced that just by camaraderie and friendship. And if your life circumstances have led you into these situations where it's much harder for you to build those and actually trust them, well, i feel bad you don't know how dope this shit is like you don't know how going out to dinner with like four of my friends going out to dinner with you guys like what it feels like that is amazing and you don't know what that's like, and that's not even human. Our existence is supposed to be that. There's supposed to be a fucking campfire. We're supposed to be all busting balls about how difficult it was to hunt some bison, and then we go to sleep.

You're missing out on the human existence. That is... Yeah, if they're missing out. I don't know. I guess I'm curious how many of them have that. It's hard to paint the case for pity for multi-multi-millionaires, but yeah, I do believe in you. 100%. And there's so many people who, like, there's so many, like, incels out there who don't have that.

Yeah. There are also people who are poor that don't have it. And I feel bad for them, too. Yeah. You know, and I hope that they get to develop that. Yeah, that sucks twice. That sucks twice. Because you don't have the money to distract you with.

You've got to sit in that, you know? So, yeah, Bieber, I feel bad for that one thing. And, like, even if you try to treat him normally, it's like it's still Bieber. Bro, I mean, yeah, no, no, you're right. I don't know. I remember when I was living in Barcelona, I would go watch these old men play bocce ball. Oh, yeah. And I would watch, like, every day after I played ball, I'd walk back to my place,

and I'd go sit down and just watch them. And I can understand what some of them are saying. They're speaking Catalan, so, like, I didn't understand exactly. I'd walk back to my place, and I'd go sit down and just watch them. And I can understand what some of them are saying. They were speaking Catalan, so, like, I didn't understand exactly. But it wasn't about understanding. It was I saw a bunch of guys who were 70, 80 years old busting balls. Yeah. Literally.

Literally. I mean, busting balls, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is good. I didn't even get it. But it's like busting balls, having fun, teasing one guy. Like, I saw my friend group in real time. And it gave me so much, like,

hope. I was like, oh, wow, this just keeps going? Like, we can all be 80? Like, I was playing basketball and I play going, one day I'm not going to be able

to play like this and it's going to suck and what's going to happen after that? And then I saw these guys playing this stupid game and it wasn't about the game. It's about the excuse

to get together and I don't care if it's fucking golf. I don't care if it's podcast. And it wasn't about the game. It's about the excuse to get together. And I don't care if it's fucking golf. I don't care if it's podcasting. I don't care if it's fantasy football. Look how much fun guys have with fantasy football. Who gives a fuck? It is funny that guys do need an objective, though. You need an objective.

Not an objective. I actually disagree. I don't think it's that. I think it's an excuse. We create objectives. That's my point. We always do that. But you can't just be like, you guys just want to go

and talk? I think it's an excuse. Yeah. It's, I got to tell my wife, I'm hanging out with my friends, but I can't just say, hey,

I want to hang out with my friends and not you. Even before you had a girl, though, that's a thing. Even before you had a girl, would you hit up your boys

and be like, do you guys want to talk today? No. Let's talk. No, no. Let's hang out. Let's call it hanging out. Yeah, but it'd be like,

oh, you want to watch the game? You want to dig a hole? We're too insecure to say let's talk and get vulnerable, but do you want to hang out? It You want to dig a hole? We're too insecure to say let's talk and get vulnerable, but do you want to hang out? It's the same thing. We've got to normalize talking. You know what?

Hey, let's just talk. But that's what we like. But we also like having something there so that we can explore something. But yeah, the excuse is the game. The excuse is the other things. But I'll be honest, I don't want something that's too draining and too absorbing. When I'm hanging out with my boys, I don't want soccer. Soccer is the worst game to hang out with your boys.

Because you have to watch every second or you're going to miss the thing that's happening. So now you miss out on all the chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Food is the best. There's just enough distraction, but you can also talk. Everybody's sharing. That's why America's pastime was baseball. Yeah.

It was a talking sport. Ah. I kind of feel like that's why soccer didn't pick up in America in general. We couldn't talk shit. You can't run ads while the game's going the whole time. There's no commercial break. Every American sport, people are like, there's like, okay, focus, and then hang out, talk. Yeah.

And then focus, and then, oh, yeah, talk. It is a nice thing about football is there's always just a break to talk or whatever. Yeah. I mean, even actual football. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about football. I'm talking about NFL football. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's like, oh, every five, ten minutes, there's going to be a break for two minutes. We're chatting. We're talking, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if you're alone, you're texting your homies or in the commercial, hey, XYZ happened. Yeah. And basketball, you don't even got to pay attention to the fourth quarter, really. Like, you can lock in if you want, but you don't have to.

You're not going to miss out on too much as long as the score is close. And if there is an absolutely crazy play, they're going to run it back, put on the jumbotron immediately. But, yeah, having that ability to kind of just connect, man, that is a— And when you're famous young, you don't get that. If you got famous at 24, no matter how famous you get and how crazy it gets, you got your homies from back in the day who still see you as that guy. When you're famous at 11, 12,

Macaulay Culkin, fucking eight years old, it's like nobody, you have no friends. You have this distrust too, man, because everybody's trying to just extract from you. Yeah. So it's like even if there is someone new, it's hard to let them in. Yes.

You know what I mean? And also people know that everybody's trying to extract from you, so they operate with you differently. Right? Yeah. Like, if you're around a person that you know doesn't believe that you want anything from them, you can be completely normal. Yeah.

If you're around someone that you think they might think that you want something from them. I'm off. It's hard to be your true self. I'm off. So you don't even get people's true selves. And that's, I think, why a lot of the times these guys have, like, hanger-ons that are really good at making them feel comfortable, but

might not be, like, the most pure people. Yeah. They just know how to be comfortable around someone that induces discomfort. And it's almost, for that person, that famous person, it's better to be around someone who's at least comfortable knowing that they're extracting than around these other people who don't even know how to behave around you because you're so famous.

Yeah, I envy those guys who can be natural because I can't not think about how famous you are. If you're like somebody I admire especially, I have to just tell you. Otherwise, we're being completely phony. I'm inauthentic. I just want to get it out the way. Yeah. And even then, I'm still going to be a little bit, but at least we know why.

Isn't it funny? You meet a famous person and then you introduce yourself. And then they say it back and you're like, oh my God. But you do that fake thing where you're like, oh yeah, nice to meet you. What was your name? Every time, any time even Rogan came through, I was like, oh yeah, nice to meet you. And my name is Mark. And then he had to say Rogan came through I was like oh yeah nice to meet you and like my name is Mark and then he had to say his name

and I was like why are we doing this like I kind of agree with you I'm like I wish I could just come forward be like I know who you are I'm a big fan yeah say that

I say I'm a big fan I try to get it out right away if I'm a big fan it's been like let's just say it and now we know yeah I think I clammed up

a bit around Burr when we met Burr because I just got into a car and you were just like yo yo, get in this car. And then I'm sitting next to Burr, and that felt like a weird time to be like, hey, by the way, man, I'm a huge fan of Inso. So we just let him be Burr,

and I was just sitting there like this, like this is the coolest shit in the world. Yeah, yeah. I felt the same way. It's all, yeah, it's meeting the people you admire. You know, it's an interesting thing when you see those, the titans, like Bill Burr's talking to Chris Rock or whoever.

Yeah. There's like an unspoken thing when you're that big where it's like, I know you can't possibly want anything from me. Yeah. Let's just talk shop. Yeah. And this is, it's like a pure thing that happens that I've seen that it's like so fucking cool to me because it's like, yo, we're being completely unmasked here. You get it. I get it.

Only there was like a thousand people in the world who understand what we understand and we don't want anything from each other let's just relate to one another

yeah nah it was a beautiful thing that was what was great about that show that Gervais put out with him talking funny or whatever it was called

yeah yeah Seinfeld and Louis yeah there was some like really genuine fucking moments there where you're like oh shit

they actually really captured it's hard but they captured the cameras was like when comics are just hanging around most of them both i'll be honest i hope that people get that from this pod man i hope that yeah i hope that's what we're putting out there in the world we always talk about the greatest hang on the internet but at the end of the day it's like i hope people are tapping into that camaraderie and uh i hope they get a little of it. Maybe they're working at home or working remote, and they don't get the opportunity to be hanging out

with their friends as much. And hopefully they're listening. Hopefully they're listening right now. And they're like, oh, yeah, this feels like that nice, beautiful, cozy feeling I have when I'm with my guys. Yeah. And yeah. We'll give you that every week, three times a week,

but still call your homies. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell them you miss them. Tell them you love them. There's nothing wrong with it. Yeah. I wonder if that's what I like about the movies that I'm like,

you know, I always talk about Ocean's Eleven. It's like I just love the relationships. Yes, yes. Every movie you like. Yeah. It's so funny because I loved Ocean's Eleven, it's like, I just, I love the relationships. Yes. Yes. Every movie you like. Yeah. It's so funny because I would, I loved Ocean's Eleven, but I was like, I don't feel like that many people have seen it or is a movie most people just left behind. Yeah.

But I'll like rewatch it as almost like comfort food sometimes on Netflix where it's like, you know, it's just guys. It's also cool because they're so famous. Yeah. But they're like, they just have chemistry and camaraderie and friendship and you're like, oh, this is great. Yeah. It's just a great, I didn't like 12 or 13.

I think you liked. I thought they were fine. I just, yeah. I just love them all. I just like the whole, like, it's new, but it's like they've been friends forever. It's just cool. Yeah, I love that. That's, you know, even fucking, if I look back at the movies that were influential to

me in my life, Swingers, White Man Can't Jump, like, I'm looking at relationships that people are building. Yeah. And, yeah, and just that camaraderie. I really think that's what it comes down to. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think. What was it about every Nicolas Cage movie you think?

Well, he's just so great at creating relationships. Also, the way he can find treasures in America. Yeah, exactly. Crazy. A lot of people can't find treasures like that. I saw a Nic Cage movie that I liked. Fuck, what was the last movie called? The Unbearable Weight of Massive Expectations.

It's really funny. And you watch it, and you're like, yo, Nick Cage is great. He's good. He's self-aware. He's funny. He gets it all. Watch that movie, and you'll be like, okay.

Imagine if he was at Art Basel. How much would you have liked it? Oh, bro. Dude, if you walked into that party, that mid-mansion party, and just Nick Cage was there, and he's sitting there like, this shit sucks,

and you'd be like, bro, that's Nick Cage. Yo, that is so funny because I absolutely, it would change my view of the party. A million percent. A million percent. And then he'd be on someone's podcast and be like, dude, our castle sucks. These fucking guys. It's everything I hate about Miami. Yeah.

He could take you to a walk around and see some art. Yeah. That is another weird thing about getting some level of fame is that now just fame in general isn't impressive to me. It's like what you – not like it was before, but it's random that you see somebody that you've seen in a movie or TV show. Growing up in Orlando, I would meet someone that has a million Instagram followers and be like, what?

That's crazy. And then now you meet them in New York, and it's like, oh yeah, I'm an influencer. Everybody's an influencer. I guess I think now it's more like if I really like the thing that you create, I get excited. I don't give a fuck

if everybody else at the party doesn't know who the fuck you are. If I die laughing at a thing that you make, that to me is the qualifier. How much do I just love the content? And that's what really fucking excites me. Well, that's cool. Rogan will have someone on his podcast that isn't that famous, but he'll be like, dude, I watch your videos all the time. You have awesome takes.

This thing that you did. And you can see he's really enthusiastic about it. And you're like, wait, Rogan likes someone that's smaller than him? You kind of forget in your brain, oh yeah, he just likes cool shit and isn't thinking about, oh, here's where I am in the social thing. Even though you just look at everyone when you're at the bottom, it's just so much

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I'm going to be at the Wilbur Theater. Bam, bam, bam. Let's go. You need to be careful now. One of the most iconic venues on the planet. Most iconic, especially comedy venues on the planet. I'm so honored to be there. Thank you, guys.

I cannot wait. Tickets will sell out, so you need to make sure you buy them. Boston, get on it. Get on that shit. Also, January 20th and 21st, I'm going to be in Las Vegas at the Virgin Hot there. Thank you guys. I cannot wait. Tickets will sell out, so you need to make sure you buy them. Boston, get on it. Get on that shit. Also, January 20th and 21st, I'm going to be in Las Vegas at the Virgin Hotels. What's goody? Shout out to... Did you pick that?

Yeah, dude. They knew. Dude, honestly, it was kismet. They knew. Did they really? Yeah, they knew. It was kismet? Oh, kismet.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, don't do that. Do what? Oh, mozzarella. Did you just mozzarella? It's a word we use in Hindi. I'm going to say it. How often do you use kismet when you're talking to your parents?

Kismet sounds disgusting. How often do you use it when you're talking to your parents? I'm sure once or twice. What is kismet? Kismet is like fate. Destiny. He says kismet, which is disgusting. Huh?

Yeah, no one says that either. You heard that? Yeah. You heard kismet? I've never heard this word before. What? You know all the words. I've never heard this word before. What? You know all the words. I've never heard this.

You're the word guy. I know, I know. Everyone 9 through 11, punchline, Sacramento, I'm going to be there. March 9 through 11, Miami, I'm coming to our future home. Get your tickets at akarsingh.com. It's kismet. Bye. Should we do some feelings, no facts?

Do you want to do feelings, no facts, dude? Yeah. Well, hey, Cristiano Ronaldo is Muslim now. They should put that in the deal, man. A million percent. That's amazing. Add that to the fine print. Be like, hey, here's 500 million, wherever the fuck.

Come to Saudi Arabia. And for two years, you also have to be Muslim. Wow. Dude, Andrew Tate did it again. He started a trend, man. He changed the game, bro. Yeah. He changed the motherfucking game.

He'd be kind of smart. So this story, what you're saying is, you want to break it down real quick? Yeah, basically a Saudi team, Al Nasir, I think is the name. I think they just confirmed it today. They offered him a multi-hundred million dollar deal. I think it's $200 million a year for two years. Yeah, $200 million a year for two years to play in Saudi Arabia, in the Saudi league against only other Saudi teams.

Crazy. Can I ask you a question? That's a crazy amount of money. What is negotiations like with a Saudi team? Where it's like money is not even real to you. I feel like I can say any number I want to until you might behead me. Yeah, literally. Is that what it is?

Is that what you're trying to figure out? Like what number will make them not feel disrespected and cut my head off? Yeah. 200 million. Why can't you say 201 million? Like, they're not going to say no. 500 million a year. Who cares?

You could just go up by million dollar increments, and they'd be like, all right, fine. You know what I mean? Like, why not? Yeah. It means nothing. He should have asked for 500 million a year. I bet they'd have said yes. Yeah.

Messi, if you go to the Saudi team, 500 million a year. What's weird about this, that like, for example, Beckham's deal. He came to LA Galaxy way back in the, this is like 10 the Saudi team, $500 million a year. What's weird about this, for example, Beckham's deal. He came to LA Galaxy way back. This was like 10 years ago now, probably. And I think he got crazy money. It was a record-breaking deal. And I think he got a piece of the MLS. The entire MLS?

I think it was a piece of the league. An entire league? A piece of the league. And then he got the option to buy a team at any point in the future at a capped price of $25 million. Holy shit. Did he buy the Miami team or something like that? Insane deal.

He got so much value. I don't think you can ascribe the same value. I mean, granted, the MLS is different, but in fairness, most of the MLS teams are profitable, whereas in Europe, there's a lot of teams that are not profitable. So I'm like, okay, even if you buy an MLS franchise, it might not be that big, and it might not be that successful, but it'll make money, and you have an actual asset.

For Cristiano, he's like, okay, I'm going to go there, get a bunch of money, but you can't really leverage to own a part of the league. And I don't know enough about the Saudi league to think, oh, is there a deal where he can own the team, and would that actually be an asset that's worth having? I feel like they're not giving up ownership of nothing, bro. They don't even let their wives drive cars.

But you could ask for any amount of money. But why would you want ownership of a Saudi team? Well, maybe there's money in it. I don't know. Wait, what's that? Maybe there's crazy money. No, you're right. But I assume everything is just propped up.

But listen, $200 million, so $400 million or $500 million, whatever it is, are you telling me that it's not worth for him to come to the US and get a piece of I don't even know if it's the MLS but if it's fucking the Miami team what if he came this is what I would do if I'm him but maybe he's too competitive

wherever Messi's going which is I think like FC Miami or something like that I would go too I'd join FC Miami or something like that, I would go too. I'd join FC Miami with Messi. Oh, that'd be crazy. I'd say, I want a piece of the team. That'd be crazy.

Messi, you get a piece of the team. This is going to be the most popular team in the world now. Maybe in soccer history. In history. We're playing on the same team in fucking my...

I'd go back to Art Basel. I'd go back to Art Basel for that. That's the only condition that I'd go back to Art Basel. I would go back to Art Basel for that. That's the only condition that I'd go back to Art Basel. I would say give me a team. I'm taking ownership of a new team, and it's me and Messi. We're co-owners 50-50. That'd be a great idea, too. Miami's the perfect city for the both of them.

They're both Spanish speakers. They both are probably way more familiar with, definitely Messi, South American culture. They both got famous through the Spanish League in Spain. Absolutely. Like Real Madrid and Barcelona. I mean, this would be, this to me is such a no-brainer. Are you going to make less money now? Sure.

I don't want to ever tell somebody he doesn't need more money. But you probably have half a billion dollars or something like that. All right, yeah. You can take a $100 million deal now to then have it be worth another half a billion in 10 years or whatever. You're getting that piece. MLS is only going to explode, especially after what you guys do. Now, he could still technically do that. After two more years?

Do get half a billion dollars in Saudi Arabia and then at 39, go play in MLS. It's two years of you also missing out on the brand deals you can get in the US that Messi's gonna get I mean he ain't got no 200 million dollar brand deals that's the thing

no no add them all together no matter what you got from the MLS could it come close to 200 to 450 million or whatever

unless you get part of the team or an option or something and even then even then what are you selling an MLS team for 80 million

I'm just low balling it's skyrocketing right now so get in early 250 you'll be fine team. Even then, what are you selling an MLS team for? $80 million? It's skyrocketing right now. Get in early. You'll be fine. The big franchises are actually pretty good. LA Galaxy is worth a lot. I'm just saying Miami, it seems

to me, is a perfect place for a soccer team. Basketball, nobody shows up. Because Miami is the Latin American version of the United States of America. Just like I've said this before, Hawaii the Latin American version of the United States of America. Yeah. Just like I've said this before, Hawaii is the Asian version

of the United States of America. The things that are popular in Asia are going to succeed in Hawaii. Okay? Simple as that. The things that are popular in Latin America are going to succeed in Miami. Simple as that.

There's one comedy club in Miami. Stand-up isn't popular in South America yet. Right? Of course, there's just going to be one. Yeah. Right? I guarantee there's's just going to be one. Yeah. Right? I guarantee there's a whole— I'll be there March 11th through 13th.

Hey! But Messi can be in New York, Spanish speakers. LA would be a great thing. And by the way, values on the teams, LAFC that just won $900 million. Oh, shit. Galaxy 865. I am completely wrong. Atlanta 855.

No, no, the sport, I think, I want to check it, but in attendance of past NHL, it's like it's after football. Bro, get a piece of the team. You both get a piece. Even if you don't play with each other, with each other is just crazy because who's going to not go to that game? Yeah.

We have to. If you have the opportunity, you have to go. Yeah, it does crazy for the whole league. Can they play well together? I don't know their games enough. I mean, probably. I'm not going to say they can't, especially in the MLS. They're both so many leagues above the entire league itself.

But stylistically, there are certain NBA players that you can't have them play with each other. I don't know. It would be tricky because both the teams, you're ideally trying to build the team around the stars, and if you have two stars, is it tricky to build the rest of the players? Did they used to have a rule, though? You could pay one player X, and then the second player... You break the rule. And then it's even across? Yeah, the MLS

would be like, alright. Because every single game... But yeah, I think he was right. And a lot of European basketball teams do this. You can have tops four American players, and then the rest have to come from the rest of the world or your country. But yeah, every game they play, anywhere they play is sold out. And then you can take them globally. Just like in the offseason, be like, hey, we're going to go do a match in Saudi Arabia and wherever.

We'll play Liverpool in Saudi Arabia. I mean, this is just. I've gone to those, like at the Coliseum. Yeah, it's the Harlem Globetrotters at that point. You get Cristiano Messi on the same team. But he could still technically do that. And maybe they're too competitive to play together, but. Maybe, or maybe they finally just want to.

It's fun. They don't give a fuck about playing in America, right? This is just a bag that you're going to cash. Yeah. And, I mean, this just seems like such a fucking no-brainer. But he could still do it. He could go two years, make crazy money, and then come back and be like, hey, I have all the leverage.

Like, you can't offer me enough money. You've got to offer me equity. Yeah, but at least now there then come back and be like, hey, I have all the leverage. You can't offer me enough money. You've got to offer me equity. Yeah, but at least now there's this feeling that they're, yeah, they're not in their prime, but they're not too far removed. Right. They're still playing World Cups. They're still competitive. They're still scoring goals.

Messi's still scoring in the World Cup, right? Like at 39, you know, last thing we want to do is see Walsh, Messi, and Ronaldo. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of what it was like with Beckham, right? We saw Walsh and Beckham. I think he, Messi, and Ronaldo. Yeah. That's kind of what it was like with Beckham, right? We saw Washed, Beckham. I think he won a championship, though.

Yeah. No, I mean, he was competitive, but you're getting everyone out of their quote-unquote prime. Yeah. Who's the other guy

that came? The French dude? Black dude? In Mbappé? In the MLS? No. No. No.

No. Came to Orlando. Oh, Thierry Henry played in New York. Thierry Henry. Yeah. Henry played in New York. Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

Yeah. Son, Zlatan came to LA. This is the most fire story. Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Yeah. Son, Zlatan came to LA. This is the most fire story. Zlatan Ibrahimovic, like all-time confidence human being, comes to LA and he takes an article out in the LA Times. And it goes, LA, you're welcome. Zlatan is here, or something like that. Whole page article.

Fire. He gets sent a jersey from LeBron James yeah signs it sends it back to LeBron James that's fire

is that not that's fire is that not the most boss move oh my god that's good LeBron sends you

a jersey like who how big was Zlatan he must need an autograph like I mean is he good. LeBron sends you a jersey like, who? How big was Lata? He must need an autograph. I mean, yeah. Is he bigger than LeBron theoretically? Globally? Is soccer so much more global?

Globally, probably. Probably globally, yeah. I mean, he was an elite player for Barca. Yeah, he played for AC Milan. I mean, he kind of like went all over. Yeah. But he's older too. He's like 40, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's kind of interesting. But I still think Ronaldo does. And it looks like Messi is confirmed to go to Miami. I mean, why would Ronaldo go to Miami too? Or go to another team in America? You're projecting. I am.

Yeah, the last thing you want to do is go to the Middle East. You're like, go to Miami. The goodbye post was hilarious. He goes to the Galaxy fans, you wanted Zlatan. I gave you Zlatan. You are welcome. The story continues. Now go back to watch baseball.

With that grammar, too. Yeah. Legend. Yeah, he's a legend. All right, look. While we're talking about all this soccer stuff, listen, let's do these World Cup predictions. Let's do these World Cup predictions. We got some big matches coming up.

Some big simulations of war. Yeah. England going up against France. Yeah, France got that. That's a dub. You think that's easy? Easy dub. First time they've ever won?

What do you mean? First time they've ever won a war against England? Did they? Have they ever won a war against England? Have they ever won a war? I don't know if you've ever won a war. Napoleon got to win a war somewhere. Oh, that's true.

Yeah. Napoleon must have killed the English in some capacity. I don't know enough about Napoleon and the Napoleonic Wars, but I think he got it. I don't think so. Maybe he fought the English off of his land, but I don't think that France ever ran England. Bro, Napoleon owned a bunch of shit. Watch, I'm about to look this up. Napoleon ran it.

Watch. How soft is France that they locked his successful ass up? That's crazy, dog. But also, was Napoleon like the Hitler of his time? Low key? Oh, apparently, yeah, you said this. Before people say, oh, he's like Hitler, they used to say, oh, he's like Napoleon. Wow.

Yeah. Before Hitler was around. Like a history drink. So they did the right thing. Yeah. They exiled him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

And do you think that's how people saw Alexander the Great? I mean, probably. And Attila the Hun or whatever his name is? You know what? He branded himself so well, though, the Great. I think you're like, nah, this guy. Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan, apparently.

My dad told me he used to slaughter one village and try to make it so awful that they would tell the next village and they would just surrender as soon as he got there. Jesus Christ. Yeah. You probably do it with any empire, though. Because an empire, in order to be an empire, you've got to kill mad people. And then once the empire gets dethroned, then you're like, yeah, that old dictator sucked. Yeah. You probably do it with any empire, though. Because an empire, in order to be an empire, you've got to kill mad people. And then once the empire gets dethroned, then you're like, yeah, that old dictator sucked. Wow.

Eventually, if one day America doesn't exist, people will be like, yeah, that guy was like fucking Clinton. You know what I mean? Whoa. Because you'll just bring up some guy like George W. Bush. He just killed a bunch of people. Yeah. Crazy. Fuck.

Yeah, dude. But they're going to bring him up in a positive light. No. It seems like that's what they do with Napoleon. What? No. Napoleon syndrome? If someone called you a hero. You have a positive light. Seems like that's what they do with Napoleon. What? Napoleon syndrome? If someone called you a hero... You have a Napoleon complex. You're a real Napoleon, dude. Bro, I thought Napoleon was the guy

that was inside Notre Dame forever. Quasi-modo? That's the hunchback. That's the hunchback. I don't know, they were like little and I thought... He's a dwarf. Napoleon allegedly is short, but even that's not true. That was propaganda. How tall was he? I think he was like 5'8 or something. But for the time, he was doing great.

But apparently it was like English propaganda. I'd take 5'8 now, be honest with you. I can use an inch. Allegedly. I don't know if that's true, but that's what I've heard. Okay, listen. We got this World Cup shit going down. So you think that France got it.

Easy dub. Easy dub. Let's see. We know we got Croatia versus Brazil. That's Brazil, right? Brazil just smoked Korea. Why don't they just let their women mud wrestle? Why don't you just do Croatian women versus Brazilian women mud wrestling?

I think the Croatians would advance there. I bet on that. I would definitely bet on that. Where would you bet on that? Because I don't think BetOnline has that. HorseWrestling.com. HorseWrestling, yeah BetOnline has that. HorseWrestling.com. HorseWrestling, yeah. HorseWrestling or HorseWrestling?

HorseWrestling.com. If we wanted to bet on the World Cup, these games coming up, we could easily do that at BetOnline.ag and you know they're going to match 50% of your initial deposit bonus up to $1,000. So if I put in $1,000... You get $500 free to gamble. Now, right now they do not have the infrastructure built out to do whores wrestling.

Yeah. But I think that we should do a world slut and they have you do every four years you have the world slut and then you do just mud wrestling. Yeah. Yeah, that would be crazy. But only select nations. You're not going to put everyone in there. Yeah, okay. I think that's great. You know what I mean? Scotland? Scotland, I

don't know if anybody wants to see all that. Nobody wants to see all that. You think they're losing qualification? 100%. And also, I don't know if anybody wants to see all that. Nobody wants to see all that. You think they're losing qualification? 100%. And also, I don't know if India, you want to do it, because the guys watching, they're seeing mud and women, and they just might not be able to control themselves. We're pretty comfy in the mud, to be honest with you. I think we'd win, too. Okay, so there's too much

of an advantage. So we have to be very specific with how we book this. No India, no Scotland. Okay, I'm fine with that. Yeah, that's the deal. Who fills out the bracket? You got Morocco, Spain, and Portugal, Switzerland playing tomorrow. Soccer and mud wrestling. Honestly, if you're going Morocco and Spain and mud,

the hair, it's too much. It's going to be too much. I think you're going to have a lot of drowned women. So Spain wins in the mud wrestle. I think they're pretty, they could yeah. And in the soccer. They might. I think Spain wins. I think Portugal wins. And I think

that we're doing Spain, Portugal. It's just war. That's all we want is war. Yeah. It's going to be Spain against Portugal. I mean. England, France is going to be hype. That's going to be hype. That's going to be hype. That's going to be hype. The winner of England-France versus Portugal-Spain. No, it's the winner of Netherlands.

No, I'm going even further. It's the winner of Netherlands-Argentina. Do you know how brackets work, though? On the bottom. Bottom, stupid. Bottom right, stupid. Yeah, you're kind of wrong on this one. No, the winner of England-France

plays a winner of Netherlands and Argentina. Oh, no, you're right. I'm a dumbass. No, no, no. I'm wrong. No, keep looking at it. I'm wrong. I'm wrong, for sure. You know what's not on there? India. Nowhere near top rocket race. Just driving it, dude. Billions of people. Imagine winning

an argument and then still being unlikable. How'd you do that? That's crazy. That's so impressive. What do you think they're doing out there in India right now? That's my Moroccan side or my American side? You tell me. What are they doing in India

right now, Duff? Yeah. What are they doing in India right now? I was just asking. What are you doing? You said they're not there, so what are they doing?

What activity are they doing? I like Indians. Say again? I don't like this Indian. That's actually fair. That's actually fair. That's actually fair. No, I think, to be honest, who wins it all? No joke?

I think Argentina got it this year. I hope so, dude. I think Argentina got it this year. And what about in soccer? I think in all, oh, in soccer? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. You were thinking mud wrestling?

Yeah, I was thinking mud wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's France-Portugal. No, it's France-Brazil in the finals., yeah, yeah. Oh. You were thinking mud wrestling? Yeah, I was thinking mud wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's France-Portugal. No, it's France-Brazil in the finals. I mean, what a final. Amazing. What a final. Amazing.

And then who takes it? France. Mbappé? Easy dub. Mbappé. I mean, he's unbelievable. He really is. Did you see the last game?

He just got the ball on the top of the 18, turned, and just put it in the goal. Everyone else, it was like, it doesn't matter what you do, it's just going to go in. So he's tied now in terms of goals with Ronaldo?

Yeah, yeah. I think he's leading. I thought Messi has the most goals. I don't know how a bracket works. He's 24-9, dog. I'm still looking at it.

I think I got it now. The challenge is your whole worldview. That took me mad long, bro. Ogrosh is a sports guy. That actually took me mad long. Sports are your identity. I know, man.

It hurts. It hurts, dude. I know a man. It hurts. It hurts, dude. I know a lot. All right, give us another question before we, or another topic before we focus on this anymore. This is very embarrassing for Akash. We've got to move on to something else, not sports related.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you give us something? Yeah, let's do this one. Crypto guys are dying. Akash is next. Dude, I'm worried. You know what I mean? I think they're coming for me.

Thank God I just lose my crypto instead of my life. Yeah. If you get killed, it's your wife. Look no further. Yeah. But yeah, it's... This is crazy, man. I mean, I don't know necessarily if all these are confirmed, but it looks like four different crypto whales, quote unquote.

So billionaires in crypto. Yeah, like high value crypto people are all dying of like-mysterious circumstances. One's found in a hotel room. One guy dies in a trip or something. Yeah. And these are just kind of getting memefied and put on social, and it seems like, oh, all these crypto guys are dying all around the same time. Kind of suspicious.

Has there been a group of people that there has been less empathy for their deaths ever? I mean, maybe like a king somewhere. Yeah. Nazis probably. Hitler. I wasn't particularly. But isn't that crazy that they're next to Nazis? Yeah.

Like these guys die. And I feel like there's some people that are like kind of happy. Yeah. But people don't feel this way about lottery winners. That's the only thing. Lottery winners that are dying? Yeah. Can I tell't feel this way about lottery winners. That's the only thing. Lottery winners that are dying? Yeah. Can I tell you the honest thing?

Lottery winners are less obnoxious about it. They win the lottery. They want to usually— They think they're lucky. These guys win, and they're like, I'm a genius. We're smarter than you. I'm a crypto genius. I knew all these things.

Bullshit. That's a good point. That's a great point. Also, the idea in my head is that everybody made all the money on crypto except me. Right? Like, I think I feel that. Do you not feel that way a little bit? Like, everybody got rich on crypto.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? So, lottery, I haven't met anybody that won the lottery. Yeah. The friends that I went to high school with didn't win the fucking lottery. And if they all did and not me, I'd hope they died too. That's true. Do you know what I'm saying?

No, that's a valid point. I'd be absolutely fucking furious. That's a valid point. But also, you lost on crypto. It's not even, I'd hope they died too. That's true. Do you know what I'm saying? I'd be absolutely fucking furious. That's a valid point. But also, you lost on crypto. It's not even you just spent a $1. Not as much as you. Yeah, exactly. That actually makes me feel good.

Yeah. Yeah, it makes me feel good. I got you. It makes me feel good that you've lost money. Is it equal and opposite, though? Is the rage that you felt? No, I've lost more billions than I've made, but I'm still a billionaire. Is this what it is?

I don't know the math, how it checks out. But is it equal and opposite? When Akash was making all this money on crypto, that rage that you felt, is it opposite? Do you feel the same joy, though, lost that I've achieved? The shot in front. Can I be honest with you? The rage was way more. The rage was way more.

I don't actually feel happy that you're losing money, but I don't feel sad at all. Like, I don't feel sad at all. You feel glad, maybe? Yeah. I don't feel sad at all. Like, I don't feel sad at all. You feel glad, maybe? Yeah. I don't think about it. When I do... Which is good. It brings a smile to my face.

Okay, yeah. Yeah, like I go... You'll breathe air out of your nose a little bit. Hey, man, I'm glad. I'm glad. Help each other out a bit, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't want you to die.

When I think about you smiling, and then I think about the fact that I'm the reason you lost the money on Bitcoin, I feel good. You feel better, right? It's a nice thing. Everyone's happy. It's a nice thing. That's beautiful.

It's going to come back. It's going to come back. But yeah, I think the real story is why no one feels bad. No one even wants it to be researched. You know what I'm saying? You just want it to be true. This is fiat propaganda. That's what it is.

Yes. That's really what it is. It's big fiat at work. This is the Federal Reserve being like, push the stories out. Get people thinking, oh, you buy crypto, you're going to die. That's what's going on. Now, here's the thing. Do you think this is some cartel shit? In other words, these guys in the crypto world are talking to cartel people. Listen, you got all this cash. You can't spend that cash. You can't put that cash in the bank. People are going to find it.

Maybe you want to dump it in crypto. It's a safe place for you to make tons of gains. Now, all of a sudden, it goes to zero. The cartel guys don't operate the same way that we do. Yeah, they're not holding on for dear life. They're not doing New York Times interviews with SBF, right? They're going and saying, hey, listen, get in this helicopter. I can't get in. That shit might crash.

But wouldn't they make it look like a sign, though? I feel like cartel people are not exactly known for being nuanced or subtle. They're like, we're going to kill you and put your head on a stick and then hang you from the bridge so that everyone can see and be like, that guy fucked up. And we still wouldn't care. We're going to roll your head down the street. I think you would smile more.

I think you'd do a whole ha-ha-ha. Yeah, I'm genuine. Is there anybody that feels bad about this? I can't find one. Usually, if there's a story of somebody dying. I think it's a little crazy. There's no GoFundMe. Salsa.

No? No, I, you know. Boot licker, bro. You're a boot licker, dude. You're a boot licker. How dare you, Dove? Isn't that crazy? I don't even know any of their names. Yeah, me neither. There's been

four of them. Son, a lot of people have been getting killed. I know all their names. Faking their death? Is that possible? You got all this money, everyone's hitting you up, especially if you're in a poor country, everyone's like, dude. They ain't hitting you up now. That's what I'm saying. You just fake your death, die, and then you're like, dude, I'm just going to take my $200 million, go to Saudi Arabia, play some

soccer. You know what I mean? But no, you could just fake your death and then go away. But we would be able to see. Everything's on the blockchain. We would be able to see if they're spending that money. Yeah, but give it to your family. It's in a trust. Give it to your friends. Something like that. And then you don't see... Yeah, exactly. You don't see where it goes. You just see

how good is that movie. Taylor Sheridan, The Goat. Great movie. I want to see the will. If the will is like, I'm going to pass this off to my brother that also has a similar name as me that looks just like me. I want to know that shit. Is that possible? Is that what you think is happening, genuinely? Not really. It's a fun theory, though.

It is a fun theory. I'm a grifter, okay? Do you not know this about me? No. I'm a conspiracy grifter. Okay, go. I see stuff. I come up with cool conspiracies.

I kick it around in the Ethernet, let the web take it. On the chance? Yeah, exactly. For money. Yeah. That way one day I can buy crypto. Yeah. Yeah.

What is going to happen with crypto? Is it coming back a bit or what? I do think it will come back, but last time it was down for years before it came back, so I'm not counting it. So we're holding. Yeah, I'm holding. I mean, you know, do whatever you want, because my advice to you has always been wrong. So do whatever you want. All right. I'm going counting anything. So we're holding. Yeah, I'm holding. I mean, do whatever you want, because my advice to you has always been wrong. So do whatever you want.

All right. I'm going to hold. Hey, G's up, dude. G's up. I just think you don't know how to sell. Yeah, also that I can't get into my Coinbase. So I got to hold. Oh, I put all mine on a drive this Thanksgiving.

Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I mean, not the ones that are in BlockFi and whatever the fuck else, Voyager. But I can help you, theoretically. Yeah, I need that help. Okay. Okay, I'm going to do that. I got that shit. Okay, one more, not the ones that are in BlockFi and whatever the fuck else, Voyager, but I can help you, theoretically. Yeah, I need that help. Okay. Okay, I'm going to do that. I got that shit.

Okay, one more and then we're out of here. All right, Twitter files. Elon Musk told Matt Taibbi that Hunter's dick has to be off Twitter. Yeah. The most interesting thing about the Twitter story is that I thought the big expose was going to be about how there was one bias with Twitter. And it looks like the bias existed both ways. It just leaned a certain way. Exactly.

There are just way more liberal employees at Twitter. And the things that they were canceling or silencing really had to do with your access to Twitter employees. So the Republicans had their guys, their girls, and the Democrats had their guys, their girls. It just, there were way more liberals that would work at Twitter. I mean, yeah.

So to me, I'm like, all right, this is more, this is a non-issue almost. Yeah. What do you think Silicon Valley is going to be? You know what I mean? So I guess what people are frustrated with and what Matt Taibbi highlighted, if people don't know, is basically Elon went through the internal back end of what's going on as far as Twitter censorship, told Matt Taibbi, who's an independent journalist, what's going on, and then he put it on a thread on Twitter basically saying that the Biden administration, specifically around the Hunter Biden laptop leak, was messaging internally with Twitter employees being like, hey, can you take down this tweet or this link because it's violating their hacked material policy.

Yep. Well, yeah, hacked material and also revenge porn. But there was like a few excuses they were using that weren't even working. Like they were basically going through their constitution and then finding reasons why they should be able to take it down. So they were scratching backs, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is fucked up.

But he also points out, Taibbi also points out that they were also scratching Republican backs. Yeah. Just not as much. So I guess this is like a, you know, interesting, I don't want to say pay-to-play situation, but as long as you have some connect over there at Twitter, you can get some shit taken down. I do understand the frustration, though. With what? Like, I understand how people feel like this validates

a liberal slant to social media and like censorship. Well, there is 100% liberal slant to social media. I just think the slant, okay. I don't think there's a liberal slant as much as there is a liberal employee slant. Yeah. And because of that employee slant, you're going to get those relationships built and people serving those relationships. Yeah. Right? It's not like, hey, you're at Twitter.

We have a liberal ideology. And this is the same thing with Hollywood. It's the same thing with a lot of businesses. It's not like there's a meeting where it's like, we are going to push liberal ideology down people's throats. It's simply there are people in power positions that are liberal, and they're going to serve other people,

in this case, the Democrats, and they're going to serve their ideologies. There are also people in power positions that are Republican, and they were serving Republicans just far fewer. So if you want to rectify this situation, you can, I guess, hire 50-50, or you find a different way

that you can kind of police your own employees. Yeah, I think the cronyism is what frustrates people. Yes. They're like, oh, these people are just like helping their friends that are elites and all the elites are helping each other. That's the thing that I'm saying. I guess that's, for me, with Hollywood,

I thought it was the same thing. I thought it was like, hey, here's what we're doing. The agenda is trans, put it in all the movies. Here's what we're doing. The agenda is gay marriage, put it in all the movies. Here's what we're doing. The agenda is gay marriage. Put it in all the movies. And it doesn't exactly work like that. What happens is maybe there's a lot more gay fucking writers or something like that.

And because of that, that ideology gets put into scripts and then nobody wants to push back on it because they don't want to lose their job, et cetera. So, yeah, I think that we assume things are, you know, organized in the most nefarious way. There was this plot that everyone in America knew about to take down the towers. And it was everybody from George Bush to Dick Cheney and all these senators, and they all knew about it, and they organized it, and they executed it. Instead of, there's a plot by these other people who wanted to do it, and they executed it. Instead of, there's a plot by these other people who wanted to do it, and maybe there were rufflings that this thing could happen,

and they didn't act on it, but I don't think there was a bunch of people in a room, Americans, going, this is how we're going to do it. This is how we're going to start the war in Iraq. Maybe they took advantage of an absolutely horrible thing that happened. Maybe they had information that it was going to happen, they ignored it, but I don't know if they planned it themselves. Right. Well, some Pearl Harbor

shit. They said the same thing about Pearl Harbor, which is like, they might've known that this thing was going to happen. They're like, how do we use a tragedy? But to act as if they're the ones in control of it, as if Twitter itself was like, hey, this is the goal. This is the objective. Top down. Hey, Jack Dorsey, what do you want to do? Hide the Biden story. We got to ride with, hide the Hunter story. We got to ride with Biden. We got to win this election for the Democrats, which is kind of how it was pushed out. Did you not feel that that was how it was pushed out? Yeah. So. And I don't think that that could very well be the case that like New York Times where they just didn't really talk about it. It could very well be the case. But with this, it didn't move the needle for me because like you said, they're

doing it on both sides. It's just a company based in Silicon Valley. There's going to be a lot more liberals. What do you expect? Also, both liberals and conservatives, are you getting off this fucking app? You complain about it all the time. Republicans think it's biased toward liberals. Liberals think Elon took over, and it's going to be filled with hate speech. Y'all still using this shit.

Find another app. Go to True Social. Whatever you want to do. But you're not getting off. Yeah. Like, I'm just tired of all this fucking. And nobody's going to Truth Social. Nobody's going to Rumble.

No one's going to Parler or any of these fucking places. You're not doing it. You say you're going to do it. Yeah. But I think what happens is like, in the absence of any sort of like moderation, you just get the people that are trying to troll the hardest.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you're in that app, right? And you're just covered with all this nonsense and you start to like miss the moderation. Yeah, yeah. But it probably pulls you more toward the middle. You're like, God damn, these guys are crazy. Yeah, because you're only getting the lunatics.

They can't say whatever crazy shit they want to say on the regular app. So it is a weird thing. It's like, as long as you understand why you have, I mean, I can't believe

I'm even saying this, but there are certain like moderations with, is it moderation? Am I using the wrong word? There are certain ways that you monitor

free speech. Like even in America, you can't yell a fire in a crowded theater or whatever like that. They had to learn that the hard way. There are people taking advantage of free speech and Like even in America, you can't yell a fire in a crowded theater or whatever like that. They had to learn that the hard way. There are people taking advantage of free speech and then people are fucking dying.

And so they're like, okay, let's put in a couple little tiny rules. And I think this is what every company goes through. It's what every city goes through. You can have free speech in Montana. You're never going to hear your neighbor speak. They're four acres away. In New York, turn off your music

at 10. Is it confirmed that Twitter was helping to take off fraudulent tweets and stuff like that for Republicans? He says it in the thread. He says it was happening for both. It was just happening way more for them.

There's just way more liberal employees. So it's happening way more for the Democrats. Just happening through interpersonal connection, you mean. Seems like it. Yeah. Let me email my guy and we'll see if we can have him take care of it. Gotcha. But government people who are congressmen? That was my thing. Twitter is

a private company. And the Biden administration, especially at that time, was a private organization. He wasn't president at the time. Trump was president. So it's like you have two private organizations that are working together to try to make this thing happen. It doesn't seem like it's in a violation of... But there were government officials on both sides

that were doing it. And I understand the spirit that, yeah. Like, there were people, look, if you look at the thread, it says the name, I'm forgetting it right now, but it was a Republican congressman asking for something specifically to be done. Right. And then it being executed.

And I'm sure on the Democrat side as well. But I hear what your argument is. Like, private organizations can lobby a private business. Right. But when you see government officials doing it, now it's proof that big tech and government are working to suppress speech, both liberal and Democratic. Right.

And that is a little bit difficult, right? You're like, uh-oh. Now, we think of these social media platforms as like a utility. We think of them like gas or electric or water. Yeah. But like you said earlier, they're not. They are private companies. Should they be allowed to do the thing? Or do you get so robust that eventually you have to be governed by the same principles of the Constitution? Right, which is a different combo. And I'm actually skeptical that Republicans would be like, oh yeah, this should be seen as a public good. Let it be run

and sort of sanctioned by the government. I can't imagine they want it to be regulated. They don't want more government influence? Yeah, I would be surprised if they would want it to be regulated in that way. But at the same time, I do get the frustration where it's like, we felt like they're fucking always against us. All the liberal media, blah, blah, blah,

like the rhetoric that people kick around. And then you see this and you're like, fucking. Proof. Yeah. There it is. Yeah. Yeah. And I will say, the interesting thing,

someone actually brought this up and I was like, what is the likelihood that the laptop was dropped off at the Delaware repair shop? That's the part of the story that I always heard. And I was like, oh yeah, probably. But then I was like, who brings a laptop to a repair shop and then's the part of the story that I always heard. I was like, oh yeah, probably. But then I was like, who brings a laptop to a repair shop and then never fixes it? I was like, is it more likely

that his iCloud got hacked? Yeah. And then they just got all this stuff and then instead of being like, oh yeah, this was... Or someone stole his shit. Yeah, that's what I assumed it was. But I think if you say it's stolen, then it's harder to run the story. Yeah, you can't. You have to say he dropped it off. But you're right.

Who's ever dropped off a laptop for repair? And then just, like, never picked it up? Dude, I got some great crack photos I got to get back. You got to say it's not a joke. Just like a random thing. That's the one part of it that I didn't completely understand. So I think it's probably more likely, like, someone hacked it, sold it to New York Post or whoever else, like, ran the story. And then they're like, fuck, we can't run this, but it's so good.

So what is the best kind of thing we can wrap around it? And then Hunter's not going to come out and be like, no, that part's not true. I was smoking crack in my iCloud. You know what I mean? Because I don't think they've said anything about it. Have the Biden administration or Hunter or anyone come out and denounced it or said it's not true or anything?

I haven't necessarily heard that. So I think they just kind of were like, okay, let's kind of make up a story to make it seem like it wasn't stolen, that it was left. If the pictures are forgotten somewhere, then we can use it. I don't know. This is again. That makes more sense. Conspiracy grifter, bro.

You know what I mean? I'm just making shit up, coming up with conspiracies. No, but that makes sense. Right? That's what I'm saying, bro. The laptop got stolen or it got hacked. Exactly. Right, dude.

I'm with you. Why can't you share information on Twitter with you. Why can't you share information on Twitter like that? Why can't you share people's private information? We see videos of people's private shit go viral all the time

on Twitter, so it seems like a convenient time to take it down. I guess they just have access to the people, but if you were getting in a fight on the street,

you don't give your consent for that video to get shared all over fucking Twitter. I think if it's public and you're in public, you can be filmed. You don't think that's a violation of the law necessarily.

Also, if you're hacking into somebody's shit and taking it off of their hard drive or off of their whatever, I like that rule for me. I wouldn't want someone to hack my shit and share it all over Twitter. I would definitely tell them to take that shit down. All these feet pics, what the fuck?

Remember the fappening happened? Found all those people's pictures. Those pictures, if you post them on Twitter, will be pretty quickly taken down because they're already ran through a filter. As dope as that was, Twitter doesn't allow that to be up to the point. It's good that they don't do that.

That's a good limit right there. That's a good rule that Twitter has. Twitter's going to be fine. The idea that you think Elon Musk, who makes fucking rockets that are going to go to Mars, can't figure a social media app out. Well, it is social, and he's a little not social. Yeah, but these tech guys ain't social either. It's not like these other motherfuckers are the best conversationalists you've ever seen. All these fucking nerds from Silicon Valley can't hold a conversation.

Yeah. But you see geniuses in one thing that are not geniuses in other things. Like who? I don't know. Some rappers sometimes will be really good at making beats. I just don't think you have to be a genius to figure out Twitter.

Just let the people tweet the things. Find the limit that works the best for the brand and for everybody else. It becomes the source for news. You don't have to do this whole badge and all that kind of shit. I don't think anybody cares. Build a user base up to a billion people, and then find a way to monetize it. The issue is that if your MO is, oh, I'm going to disrupt and change up and drain the swamp,

and then you get in there and realize that everything was kind of running the way it was supposed to be, and then you get in there and you're like, oh, shit. Do I default on what I said before and don't change anything and keep it exactly the way it was which was running pretty good or do i go in there and change it up and then affect it in order to pacify my own like uh declaration before and how do you make money you change it up enough well number one you change up enough right you let back a few people that were banned for reasons you didn't think were fair yeah and you change it up enough, right? You let back a few people that were banned for reasons you didn't think were fair. Yeah. But then immediately re-ban them because it was fair.

Yeah, re-ban them. But at least you put out what is at the olive branch, right? To the people who thought that Twitter was too... Be good. Yeah.

Well, also just to the base who was like, you know, Twitter's only canceling one type of people. We're going to give them another shot. Kanye goes out

and posts a fucking swastika. Nobody's like, let him back on, or a few people. But they're like, yeah, he was acting like an asshole on this platform. We're not going to fucking do it. You said, how do you make money on it? Maybe there's a subscription model for the corporations that use it. And I think any one of them- But $44 billion is a lot to recoup, is all I'm saying. 100%. But I think, one, you're working with valuation, not actual money that you're making. And having one platform where a billion people are on and everybody can have a conversation at the exact same time is incredibly valuable. It is.

I also, though— Never before in history have people been able to speak about events in real time to each other in one place. You can text back and forth, but it can't exist in a public fucking place. Yeah. That's a pretty awesome thing. It is incredible and historic. Yeah. Like, that's a pretty awesome thing. It is incredible and historic. Yeah. My feeling when Elon bought it was like,

it's $44 billion you're paying, which is a lot of money, even for you. And then if he puts in all this work and then sells it for $50 billion, that's not worth shit to Elon Musk. But maybe it's- A $6 billion profit? I don't think that this is about profiting.

I think if he wanted to just profit, then he would just focus on his many other business ventures that will make him way more money. I think this is, he genuinely thinks this is the right thing to do, and he's trying to do, he's trying to use his power and influence to do the right thing. That's given him best case scenario, but I genuinely, because of the scenario you just proposed, which is it's very hard to make tons of money on this, he has to think that there is a moral obligation or ethical obligation. He went against the car companies. He went against NASA

because they just dogged him. And now he's going against the media companies that also dog him. That could be enough, but to set up the scenario that Mark just said, where he gets there, he truly thinks he's going to make a difference. And he's like, oh, me making a difference would actually fuck things up.

Things need to run this way. Now what's all this for? You're not really going to make money. You're going to be there, away from Tesla, away from SpaceX. It just didn't seem like a smart move from the beginning. But then you have control over the marketplace. Richest man in the world, get into information. The MSNBC shit,

the MS is Microsoft, Bill Gates is like, yeah, let's get a little piece. Amazon, Washington Post. He did the smartest thing. It's like instead of buying one of these news networks, you buy the place that the news goes on.

If you own the marketplace, it's like, yeah, you're invincible. It's like Elon, or like Bezos is like, I'm not going to own books. I'm going to own the place that you sell everything. It's like Elon, or like Bezos is like, I'm not going to own books. I'm going to own the place that you sell everything. It's like, yeah, you break the game.

Yeah, I'm going to own the website hosting. Like, that's the internet. He owns the internet. He found a way to buy the fucking internet. Isn't that crazy? I think I brought this up. The most clever shit that Amazon ever patented was the one-click purchase.

Did I tell you this? Like, they created it in like the that Amazon ever patented was the one-click purchase. Did I tell you this? Like they created it in like the early 2000s, like the one-click purchase where all your info and card stuff is all stored. And so you see something you like and go one-click and then it's coming to your home. It's terrifying. They patented it and Apple licenses it from Bezos. So all these other companies, any other place you see a one-click to purchase, Amazon owns that. So they get paid every time you one-click to purchase, even if it's not on Amazon. Dude, having to type in my credit card information will almost make me not buy something.

Truly. When I see Apple Pay just pop up as an option. Where is my credit card? A shopping cart? No, I don't want to go to the shopping cart. What is all this? Just buy now. Just buy.

Dude, Amazon, you can buy things so fast that I remember the first few times I was like, did I buy it? Yeah. Like, I needed, like, an email confirmation or something to let me know I actually purchased it. Knock, knock, knock. It's at the door? It's at the door. How? How did it do that?

Bro, they don't even ask you if you're sure. You've got to have confidence to shop on Amazon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to. But that's the best part, though. Even if you're not confident, like, you have, like, a day and you're like, actually, I changed my mind. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just the whole thing thing of just like, get it now and think about it, you know? Just to have it.

Just see. Yeah. I mean, it's brilliant. I wonder how many news organizations are on, what's it called, are on Twitter. And I wonder if you could charge all of them $10 a month. Every news organization. I can't imagine. I wonder how many are in the world.

Yeah, outside of like state-run shit in China or something. And it's like, every single one of them would pay $10 a month. And you can get your own little news badge or whatever the fuck it is, and the platform would make you adhere to the rules of any news organization that exists on Twitter. But to me, you might

be able to start making some serious fucking revenue right there. $10 is nothing when you're writing it off to the corporation. But for every single account, you might be able to start making some serious fucking revenue right there. $10 is nothing when you're writing it off to the corporation. But for every single account, you can do 10 for every single account. CNN, you need. If there's 100,000, you're making a million dollars a month.

There's still nothing. 100,000 is a million a month. He reacted like you disagree with him. He goes, 100,000 is a million a month. That's a great point. 100,000 is a million a month that's a great point 100,000 is a million a month and that's such a fucking drop in a bucket

it's like okay that's cool 12 million a year with a million a month yeah it's gonna take Elon probably like 5,000 years

and that's assuming there's 100,000 accounts out there that are like no we need news yeah we're news so you need to get a significant portion

of the user base. Just to say $44 billion is such an astronomical sum. Yeah. I think he's kicking himself right now, I think, to be like, what the fuck am I doing?

The value of the platform is not the subscription, it's the information, the data. It's like, hey, show our product to a lot of people. That is true,

and that I don't factor in. But that's how money doesn't... That's where the valuation comes in. It's from Coca-Cola and McDonald's being like, yeah, we'll pay to show this in front of people. It's like once you take that away. But Twitter ads don't work.

I never clicked on something because of Twitter. Instagram ads be getting me and Twitter ads, I'm just like, what is this? Every time it sucks. It gets in there. It gets deep in your brain and you need insurance. You're like, oh, yeah, Geico's pretty good. It's just like slowly eroding your brain. Maybe.

That's all ads. That's pretty good. It's just, like, slowly eroding your brain. Maybe. That's all ads. Yeah, literally. That's also true. But, yeah, so I think it's, yeah, profitability for him with that is tough. Yeah. Being able to control the news is huge. I don't know how you don't get corrupted with that, though. He's corrupted.

But, like, imagine you own Twitter. You spend a fuck ton of money to do it. And all of a sudden there's, like, a conspiracy going around on Twitter about some shit about you that's like hurtful that you genuinely don't like. Something that like attacks your character. How do you not just like. I would absolutely take it down. Turn the dial on it a little. Yeah, so fast.

Less people see this. So fast. And there's no way to prove he does it. Like until someone else buys Twitter and then does what the Twitter files he did to him, no one will ever know. Now here's the question. And I'm not selling it to that guy. Is he going to do it for the other investors on Twitter? You know, when the Saudis own 40% of it or whatever the fuck it is.

How do you not let it corrupt you? Like, everyone's like, oh, just do the right thing. But it's like, bro, like, you haven't been there on the internet when the whole of Twitter is talking about, like, oh, your family is this. Especially if you went halfsies on it. Especially if it's true. Yeah. Especially if it's true. If it's not true, then it's just hurtful.

But if it is true, you're like, fuck, I gotta do something about this. I don't know how you don't let it warp your brain and go, yeah, let's just turn it down. I would. I wouldn't even need to have my brain warped. Didn't that happen with Reddit? I would do it right now. Didn't that happen with Reddit? They say it happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where like China, like Tencent I think is the company. That bought 50%?

They own a large percentage. I don't know if it's a majority, but they do own a large percentage. And a lot of like Chinese, like anti-CCP posts and things like that will get censored. So it'll be like the Tiananmen Square massacre. And then it'll be up. All the free Hong Kong shit got taken down. Yeah, and it'll have like 50,000 upvotes and like millions of views. And then it'll just get taken down because it violates a violence policy.

Or the poster got banned because their other content was violating whatever, whatever. And then you basically create a constitution that's so detailed and so nuanced that you can just get anyone for anything that you want if you can make it detailed enough. If a poster is in violation, all their posts can go down. So you just find a post that they made, go through all of their post history, find a place where they violated something else, and take down this post. Oh, shit. So it's like,

yeah, you could just murk someone's whole account if you wanted to. Nah, that's lit, actually. That makes me want to buy a social media account. That's my point, right? Yeah, yeah, that's fire.

You get, like, that is ultimate power. If information is power, like, that is the ultimate power. Yeah. Seductive, for sure. I don't know how you don't let it just, like,

just rot your brain. Son, all of us would have pristine reputations. Everyone. It's insane that he lets anything stay up there. But anyone that thinks, no, I would do the right thing, and I would let people speak their mind, I'm like, no way. I think what they say is that's why you shouldn't have

billionaires or whatever. People shouldn't get this powerful because it would corrupt all of you. But if it can't be the noble billionaire, and it can't be the government, it's like, who the fuck is supposed to run it? Yeah, that's true. I don't know. You're not signing off. I don't know what the answer is.

Well, if you do do it, you're not so noble. I mean, you just hope it's some type of reluctant king that wants peace for everyone, that's going to take care of everyone and always do the right thing. Power corrupts absolutely, dog. I don't know if it's possible. So you think that we're going to see

a corrupt version of Elon? I don't know. I mean possible so you think that we're going to see a corrupt version of Elon I don't know I mean who's to say he's not already somewhat corrupted I don't think he'd become the richest man in the world by like always doing the right thing by everyone and I like Elon I think he's great but there's no way who is he fucked over I don't know

again I'm not saying that but I'm just saying in general people that accrue like enormous like fortune but his wealth is speculative right it's not like Again, I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying in general, people that accrue enormous fortune. But his wealth is speculative, right? It's not like Tesla makes that much money. Yeah, I don't know. So that's the other thing. It's like we've got to find out how much money Tesla actually makes and find out how much money they make without selling those electric vehicle credits or whatever the fuck it is.

Oh, yeah. How much actual dollars does Tesla make? What is their net? Not even their gross. What are they netting without those EV credits? Yeah. Because I'd be curious. Because, yeah, he's the richest guy in the world

based on, like, what we think of him, but not based on, like, what the companies are actually generating. Now, maybe they believe that some of these companies are going to generate so much wealth so we're all invested. Like, maybe SpaceX, for example. We believe that we're going to go mine an asteroid and become the richest nation in the world again, or whatever the fuck it is.

I understand why you would put money in there, but if it's all speculative. Yeah. Who's the richest, like, I got cash guy in the world? Saudi. Saudi, right? Got to be real family people. I don't even think Vlad, right? It's got to be Saudi, right? Putin, we don't even know, right? It's got to be real family people. I don't even think Vlad, right? It's got to be Saudi, right? Putin, we don't even know, right?

Gold bars. Oh, because he's one dude. Where Saudi is like the whole family. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. You want to lighten the mood? Four kids got murdered in Idaho.

That's pretty good. Guys, that's been another episode of Flagger. Let's just talk about that. Lighten the mood. We appreciate y'all so much. We'll see you later this week. Someone snuck in the house. We got something fun

for you later this week. Yeah, we do. I hope everything goes as planned, but we got something very, very fun for you guys later this week.

We're going to keep it extra **** later this week. No, what? What? You think I gave it away? It's just the worst of surprises, bro.

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King shit only, you know? Let him live, dog. Come on, bro. Let him live. I'm, uh, yeah. Listen. You guys want to grab a beer, like a n***a or something like that? Yeah.

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