Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up everybody? Welcome to Flay Grant. Listen, did you guys watch the Super Bowl? I heard about it. You heard about it? What did you guys think? Bottom five experience of my life. Oh, why? I watched it with my wife who's from Philly and all her family who's from Philly. Oh, God. They made an ice cream cake for me.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Yeah. They said fly Eagles fly and then it had an eagle on it and my face on the cake. And they're just chanting that stupid retard anthem. Fly! I was like, oh my God. I hope your wife bought it with your money Of course. Yeah, dude. I don't need my feelings. That's what I'm gonna do. Stay on my diet, watching this game though. What is your diet? I just get fatter every year. That's my diet.
Starting point is 00:00:52 That's my diet. But there's been different versions of this diet. That's what I'm trying to understand. No, it's over, dude. That diet I lost weight, but it's too unsustainable. What was the diet about where you had- Too unsustainable. He's losing too much weight.
Starting point is 00:01:03 No, I couldn't keep eating, dude's losing too much weight protein fucking cereal pack every two hours and then one real meal and I doing that for about a month you came in you were drinking sour patch kids beverages yeah but there's no way there was it was a way it's just all fake he has to plan a special with special taping maybe plant a special then he While he's telling us well, he's telling us he's What did you think what did you think of the halftime show? Phenomenal. You thought it was phenomenal? I actually did like the halftime show. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah. It was phenomenal. Why is it? It was phenomenal. It was a phenomenal show. Yeah. Why am I the worst? I'm trying to be objective here.
Starting point is 00:01:56 No, you're not. Listen, obviously there's been a little bit of smoke or whatever, there's been a little bit of beef, but outside of that, I can look at a performance and I can say it was good it was good. It was colorful. Colorful. It was colorful. They had a lot of symbolism. Red, white and blue.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Yeah. I had to read a few days later what that meant. And it was like mind blowing. Really? What was it? What did it symbolize? It was the American flag. Did you guys pick that up? Yeah. You did? Yeah, you did. Yeah Okay, okay, okay, and all honesty I thought I thought it was I thought it was all right, I thought it was all right It was decent. I thought I thought it was all right. It was decent I wish he had better song selection, but he did perform a lot of his best hits when he performed with Dre and Two Super Bowls ago. Yeah, we just watched it. And he played like all those tracks
Starting point is 00:02:46 that were popping at the time. So he couldn't perform them again. I mean, he could. He could have, but I don't think he wanted to. I also think my general feeling on all Super Bowl halftime shows is, if, and we said this before, if you like the artist, you like the halftime show,
Starting point is 00:02:59 if you don't, you don't. Usher, we all like Usher, we were like, that was maybe the greatest halftime show ever. What was your family's group text during the Usher performance? Trashing it. I remember we talked about this on the fly. Your friends that didn't love Usher were trashing it. Very few performances. I didn't know anybody that trashed it. That was the greatest super-roll of Ford's ever seen. It's literally on record from a year ago. Just go back and watch. Yeah, my family didn't get it. They're like, who is this guy and what is he talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And that's impossible. He's singing while roller skating. They thought it was fine. They just have never heard the songs. Like Usher for my family, for French Canadians, it didn't cross over somehow. If you don't like the artist, you probably don't, almost certainly don't like the performance.
Starting point is 00:03:40 That's it. You're telling me that when your dad's running around gay bars in Paris, he didn't listen to any Usher songs? No, he played the same song. Freddie Mercury or whatever. Gay bars in Paris. That's a Kanye song. Ball so hard. Okay, yeah, it is a tricky endeavor, right? You need to be so universal that everybody knows the songs. There's like a handful of people that can do it. Yeah. And I guess to some people Usher wasn't big enough. Which is insane.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Which is insane to us, but you know, so who is big enough? Is Pitbull big enough? I don't think so. I think people trash, dude, JLo and Shakira got trashed because people were like, what's JLo doing? So it's Beyonce, Taylor Swift. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 People who are too big, who feel like they're too big to do it. Coldplay. Adele. Adele, Coldplay. What if you did like a Medley? Black people would fuck with Coldplay. Medley. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 LA, I also think we brought up Dr. Dre. They loved it in LA. But it's also Dr. Dre and Snoop in LA. So even if you're an out of town guy visiting LA, you understand how hype this is. All right, then so to Kendrick's credit, instead of trying to win everybody over, do you just try to win your base? Yeah, he just did a show that was for his fans.
Starting point is 00:04:52 It was a little, did you see a little video of him just doing this after? I think he got exactly what he wanted out of it, and he's always kind of been for his fans, and that's it. Right. But it is a weird thing, because it's not your show. It is weird. It is weird.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Meaning that when you do your show for your fans Like people are coming to your show to watch you do whatever you think When you agree to go to the other people show those football players So you are trying to do a show for everyone else I feel like speaking to some Kendrick fans that were let down a lot of them said this I didn't like the song choice like they were making a lot of, I don't even wanna call them excuses. They just had criticisms about it, and I think the overall feeling was,
Starting point is 00:05:30 hey, this is our guy, this is my guy, and I want the world to know why I think he's so great. And I think a lot of people felt let down about that. This whole year, they were like, I told you he's the best, I've been riding with this dude for 10 years, look, he took out Drake, he annihilated him, and he's about to do the Super Bowl, and I'mma prove to all I told you he's the best, I've been riding with this dude for 10 years, look he took out Drake, he annihilated him, and he's about to do the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:05:47 and I'mma prove to all of you why he's the best. And then to see people go, who is he? I don't know these songs, I don't even really know what he's saying, I don't understand what's happening. And he's not like jumping out of a cannon or doing something insane, like the choreography was cool, the videography was cool, but there wasn't any like wild Michael Jackson-esque antics
Starting point is 00:06:06 that could maybe help you cross over. And so I think that's where even Kendrick fans were a little bit let down. They wanted to prove to the world that he's the best. And I don't think that that performance made the casuals go, yeah, he's the best. Yeah, because I think to Al's point, and none of us thought of this until we rewatched the we were just rewatching. Like, oh, he did a lot of these songs two, three years ago. So it was a very recent history.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So that's where I think it's a little tough. But I overall actually liked the performance. Everybody I was with liked it. So that's why when I got, I saw some of the texts I was getting and then I went online, I was like, oh, there's a lot. And then I just kind of clicked with me. Like if Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers,
Starting point is 00:06:42 I remember not giving a fuck about that halftime show. But if you're a Tom Petty fan, that's awesome. This was great. Prince, people say is the best ever. I liked Purple Rain, but I liked the song Purple Rain. Looking back at a lot of the halftime shows, you kind of need one stadium anthem. You need like a big orchestral, like shut down the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:01 You don't even need music, just let everyone sing type song to really win that. So that was the other thing we were saying is like, there are certain abilities that just crossover primally. Like it doesn't matter how good you rap, it's not gonna penetrate in the same way as like fucking Adele singing. Adele singing, Bruno Mars, I remember
Starting point is 00:07:18 not being a huge fan watching that performance and being like, oh, I just got this. If you got pipes, bro, you could win people over that don't even know who you are. That's why like the national anthem, like if you have some you are. That's why, like, the national anthem. Like, if you have some girl singing the national anthem. Wendy Houston does the national anthem. I didn't know, I remember being six years old
Starting point is 00:07:30 or whatever watching, I didn't know who she was, and I remember being like, this is awesome. Yeah, it's goosebumps. Yeah, so, but if you're a rapper, you don't have that. That's not part of your repertoire. So you could make the show extravagant, and there are different versions of that, or you could have a universal smash hit. Or you could have a universal smash hit.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Not Like Us is a universal smash hit. Like, I was humming it the rest of the day. It's so fucking catchy. Yeah. Outside of that, there was no other song that was universal smash hit. Yeah. And outside of non hip hop fans, no one knows Not Like Us. That's another thing. It was it's niche. It's like this is we're having this conversation other days like Bad Bunny is the biggest artist in the world, right? Yeah, he can't do the Super Bowl. Yeah, don't you disrespect?
Starting point is 00:08:15 The amount of white people playing Bad Bunny's album right now, I think he could do the Super Bowl with this latest out chance I think he could Al you know, New Whites. They're half Puerto Rican. Yeah. Bro, he just sold out. They just all, like, you don't know Toledo, Ohio white people playing Bad Bunny. I bet you a fucking thousand dollars. It's been a while since you've been on the road.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm kidding. Granted. Yeah, yeah. In the end, New Yorkers. You start playing Bad Bunny in Cleveland, there's gonna be an issue. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:41 All right, all right. I just don't think it's, it's not universal. You can be massive within groups, but the universality, Pitbull sells less tickets than Kendrick. More people know Pitbull songs across all genres. Flowrider. Flowrider? This guy's got fucking. It sounds crazy. Can you bring up Flowrider Spotify?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Unfortunately. No, no, no, no, no. I'll give you Pitbull, not Flowrider. Stop it, stop it, stop it. You're hating because the name is stupid. But the music is incredible. Bro, I mean, just in terms of bangers. Flo Rida is a bigger artist than Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Wow. I'm just being honest with you. I'm just being honest with you. I thought you said you wasn't going to hate today. That's not hate. That's facts. That's hate. That's data. Look at Spotify.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Is Flo Rida even alive? It doesn't matter. No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't know. He guessed what I'm saying. Flo Rida is like one of them dancing Asians that wear their masks. Jammawalky.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Just Jammawalky. It's like Blue Man Group. You could put a new Asian guy in there. Flo Rida is an idea. They don't all look alive. What does he say? But he don't even wear a mask. That's a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:44 If Flo Rida walked in this room. He doesn't wear a mask. Would you know what Flo Rida looked like, be honest, if you walked in there? I do know if it's Burner Boy. A lot of people don't realize they're the same guy. They look so different. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Do they really? So different, it's unbelievable. Once in my case. It's exhibited. They told all. I think it's. Actually, I think. That's Flo Rida?
Starting point is 00:10:03 That's Flo Rida. I think that might be Pitbull. I don't know, to be honest with you. That's B. of it. You can mix and match it. It's an idea. It's a good idea. I'm telling you. He would win. These last two look at him in that black wife beater right there. That's not even no. That's not him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down.
Starting point is 00:10:21 He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. He was shut it down. him in that black wife beater right there. Wait, what? That's not even. No, that's not him. This one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, I'm telling you, he would shut it down. Oh, actually, I think that is so.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah. You thought it was Kevin Gates? Yeah, I did think that. I did. Come on, bro. Anyway, so who who can do it? Well, Drake, Drake could do it. You know, I mean, that's the I don't know. I think again, I don't know that he could. I'll tell you who could actually do it.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Kanye. Oh, Kanye could actually do it, Kanye. Oh. Kanye could actually do it. That doesn't make sense. Actually do it. I think you might have said this. Kanye would have probably the most epic, it would be the last Super Bowl, but it would be the most epic Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah. The last and greatest. Yeah, it would be the last. They would stop the Super Bowl after that, 100%. Yeah, that's fine. It would be over. I'll imagine putting an end to the Super Bowl halftime show. There would be no more Super Bowl halftime shows.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I don't think they would let black people even play in the Super Bowl after. But Kanye's the only rapper I can think of who can, is stadium anthems. He understands the orchestra's coming in like you said. I don't know. 10 years Travis Scott. Travis Scott. 10 years Travis Scott. Travis Scott.
Starting point is 00:11:22 But if Drake did all his collabs and he just brought out Breon this person that person this person then then he does it Drake and that's one thing I will say I wish Kendrick brought in collabs for sure. Yeah, Drake if he brings in collabs. Yes, absolutely So imagine imagine Wayne did it right and brought in the collabs So imagine Wayne brings in Nikki Wayne brings brings in Drake. Juvenile. Juvenile. Oh my God, juvenile? That would be nuts. I still think it would have been one of those things only hip hop bands would have liked
Starting point is 00:11:50 that everyone else would have liked. But if it's a new artist. That's a crossover. That's the only one. But if it's in New Orleans. Name another one. Al, that does help. Then the same way Drain Snoop in LA went crazy,
Starting point is 00:12:00 I think the issue from what I was seeing, some of the recent Wayne performances are not like what we know Wayne to be. We know Wayne as like peak Wayne. I'm the issue from what I was seeing some of the recent Wayne performances are not like what we know Wayne to be. We know Wayne is like peak Wayne. I'm just trying to think of who would get Mark's family to get excited. And I don't think of Kanye. Well, they would love Kanye. They probably love Kanye now more than ever. He might need Garth Brooks.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I've seen Garth at the Super Bowl. I think he did. I think he did a couple of the one of the Cowboys ones. I think 95. I think it should be a resident suit. I think he did. I think he did a couple one of the Cowboys ones. I think 95. I think it should be a resident suit. I think every Garth again, like when I was a kid, we gotta go see Garth We gotta go see Garth I need to see like a proper country. No, what is that thing called stagecoach? Yes, but a stagecoach new country Yeah, it's more like pop country?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah, I mean I think they have like legacy acts and stuff. I think it's just like a it's an event for country lovers. Alan Jackson. Dastraditional country. Oh yeah. Alan Jackson. No idea who that is. I grew up in Texas though, of course I know Alan. No, I said I have no idea. I can't wait to show you more white stuff. That's the best. He's doing white stuff. He jumped in the ocean the other day. Cold ocean. Yeah. In the cold one? Yeah. Yeah. All the way. He's doing white stuff. He jumped in the ocean the other day. Cold ocean. Yeah. In the cold one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:07 All the way. And I donated a look. Were you wearing socks? Oh, you donated? I did, do it for the kids. I love the kids. You guys know that. That's fire.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I love the kids. I hate this guy. I will say. I just hate him. He's so hateable. We asked him a week ago. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna jump in the cold water. We're like, okay, what are you donating to? He's like, you. We asked him a week ago, he's like, yeah, I'm gonna jump in the cold water.
Starting point is 00:13:26 We're like, okay, what are you donating to? He's like, you gotta donate for that? Yeah, I'm boating too. I was like. So what kids, by the way, did you donate to? Make a wish. You make a wish? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Got it, got it. And you just have to buy the hoodie. And then it donates some money immediately to make a wish. Boom, you gotta make it easy. There you go. Jump in some cold water. Y'all should come next year.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I will never. Y'all some rich motherfuckers don't do any charity. Yo, horrible people. Yo, how did this get on us? Yeah, yeah. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I don't answer with charity all the time. My wife's bag collection. She always buys from a charity in my house. Why is the activity always associated with the charity? Well, why can't you just give money? Yeah, well, I'm sure people have done jokes about this. But why is it always a race?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Or why is it running into the water? Why does there have to be something that you get out of it to help the kids? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great point. You need proof that you did a good thing. Oh, that's it. Yes. It's really so you. That's a great point. You need proof that you did a good thing. Oh, that's it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:26 It's really so you could say you did it on Instagram and people can't shit on you. Because they're shitting on the guy that gave $20 to the, you know, kid who's going to die. 40. You gave 40? 40. I sent the kid to Disney World, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:39 He got a pretzel on my dime. There we go. Andrew gets to raise awareness. Yes. Why are all these black guys jumping in the water? Because of make-a-wish. There's just one, just one this year, but I'm hoping for more next year.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I thought your boys went with you. Oh yeah, sure, two. So when you're on, okay, let me just ask this question. And I just went one black friend. No, I am a Filipino friend. I need an honor. We're a United Nation. Okay, honest question.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Okay, you're at the polar bear thing, okay? He is wearing a white feet. It's a bunch of. Yeah, they're about to go in the ocean and you're on the beach Is there any feeling of them going like I wouldn't is he gonna just take our shit when we Know with any looks did they was our going first like a phone? I'm nervous if I was you it's more of the medic start circling cause they're like, is he gonna make it? Do we have a lifeguard on Dilly? I'm too nervous. I'm too nervous.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'm coming around. The tide is coming in. I just wanna let you know. Like if you wanted 20 white people to kill a black person, the best thing they would do is let's get them in the water. It really even out the odds. I'd be nervous if I was you. I'm a strong one, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I make it out. Can you? Yeah. Half Latino. Yeah. It's nice, Puerto Rican. Yeah, come on, man. Guys, very cool announcement that I'm incredibly excited
Starting point is 00:15:54 to make. My new special life is going to be coming to Netflix March 4th. Go, go. Yeah. Come on, Max. Come on, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Let's go. I'm very excited for you guys all to see it. Thank you to everybody who came out to the tour. It was absolutely incredible. Every dream I ever had in comedy, that's what this tour was. And I'm really proud of this special. So I would love it if you guys go to Netflix right now
Starting point is 00:16:16 and hit that remind me thing. Apparently that's really good and gets in front of tons of people's eyes. So you got maybe three weeks to do that. So go to Netflix. It's up there right now. You can hit that remind me button and, you know, hopefully that helps.
Starting point is 00:16:28 But yeah, let's run this up, man. Let's run this up to the moon. It is his best special and I am obviously a fan. I'm gonna keep saying it. This is your best. I'm so proud of you. I cannot wait for them to see it. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Thank you guys so much, man. I really appreciate all the support. So go there and then on March 4th, we're watching as a family. Spread the word. Tell everybody. Yell it from the rooftops. Let's run it up.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Now let's get back to the show. Also guys, we got Brea next week. This is crazy. We sold out four shows, added a fifth. Tickets are almost gone for that. We're trying to see if we can add a sixth. I don't know if we can. I wanna keep adding.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Obviously, let us know. You guys see the show as possible, but buy your tickets now, because I don't know how much real estate there is in a given weekend. Also, the week after, Zany's in Nashville, February 27th through March 1st. I don't think those tickets are selling out as fast,
Starting point is 00:17:13 but I know those will go, so buy those. March 14th and 15th, this is important. I forgot I had shows in Tulsa. My bad. Tickets are live, buy them, please. 21st and 22nd, Omaha 28th and 29th Columbus And then the Tampa shows tickets are already low April 11th and 12th And I think we will add the 13th as well, but tickets are low for all the show
Starting point is 00:17:33 So hurry up and buy those akash singh comm we're gonna announce more dates soon. But in the meantime, I love y'all Thank y'all so fucking much. This is crazy. How many of you guys are selling out these shows? I'm very grateful. I love you guys Thank you. What's up guys world world's shortest ad read, Baltimore. I'm gonna be in the Goobies Joke House, February 27th. I cannot wait to see you guys there. Also, New York City, I'm gonna be doing my monthly show with Joey Avery on February 25th at Mary Lou. You can get those tickets on my Instagram.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I will see you guys there, I cannot wait. Come hang out with me. I will say, my family in regards to the Super Bowl, they did say this, which I thought was interesting. They didn't know anything that was going on. They're like, who's Drake's Kendrick, but they did say I like seeing a Super Bowl half-time show That wasn't sexually gratuitous Which I actually think is interesting points sizzle came out dressed very appropriately. Yeah, and like you watch with the whole family There was no like overtones of like her voice is incredible
Starting point is 00:18:21 What crazy yeah, she killed that shit your family don't want to see a Jenna Jackson titty real quick. Yeah, she killed that shit. All the stars. Your family don't want to see a Jenna Jackson titty real quick? Oh, God. That's the best. Okay, here's a question. What did y'all think about the Serena Williams dancing? Oh, it was a good touch. Good touch.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I think Drake has been taking a lot of shots at her and her husband, and I think she's just like, fuck this guy. What would you do if your girl wanted to do a dance on a diss song to one of her exes that you know has a huge dick bigger than yours? And it's proven because video came out of it. If you're a white guy married to a black girl, you've made your peace with that. If you're a white guy married to a black girl, you understand where you... It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I'm okay with it. You've had enough black guys just walk by you and're like, yeah, you can't handle all that. Yeah, he's all glowed up now, you know. He's slagged out. So yeah, he's good. And if he's shitting on me, she could easily just be like, nah, whether it's true or not, she could be like, I don't like that he keeps taking shots at you.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Fuck him. And then, you know, she has that out. Also, you're not telling Serena Williams what to do. I don't care who you are. But it's a one and a half second cutaway during the halftime show where she's doing a sea walk. I feel like you're a billionaire. You're the greatest female tennis player in history.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Like, why do you even need to be there? I wonder if there's a little part of her that's like, wait, I get to be in a NFL halftime show, like at the Super Bowl, and I don't have to do anything. I'm just gonna show up. You don't like pettiness? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For me, that's not petty. That's like hurt. No, that's petty. I'm just gonna show up. Also, you don't like pettiness? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That is awesome. For me, that's not petty, that's like hurt.
Starting point is 00:19:46 No, that's petty. Here's what I feel like she misses. She wasn't at the end. She wasn't at the pop out though. She wasn't at the pop out show. So that's probably why. Here's also what I would say, the same thing that, athlete wise, female wise,
Starting point is 00:19:58 there's no question she's the closest to Jordan. There's no part of you that ever forgives if you're like that. There's no part of you that forgives. There's no part of you that forgets. There's no part of you that ever forgives if you're like that. There's no part of you that forgives, there's no part of you that forgets, there's no part of you that allows that person to win. I don't give a fuck what it is. If Jordan's playing tic-tac-toe with you and you beat him once, I'm not forgetting that. So what's the best way to get Drake back if you're Serena? Super Bowl halftime show. Go to dance. Literally. I guess figuratively, not literally. You're dancing on his grave.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Say you were 16 when you met. That's the only way to get Drake back. There's enough of those. There's enough of those. There's none of those, okay? That's an alleged leak. That's an alleged leak. This is like a Stockston joke. I know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:20:39 He goes too far. This guy is convinced. I go too far. You do. We're friends. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. Serena also has a perfect cover to be like, no,
Starting point is 00:20:48 I didn't do it for the Drake. I did it because I'm from Compton. I was just representing LA. Like, it was an LA experience. That's all. Yeah, I guess. But I still wouldn't want my wife doing that shit. Would you want your girl doing that?
Starting point is 00:20:56 Like, your girl goes, yo. To grip walk? No, if my wife grip walks, I was like, what's she even hating with? I asked my wife to do it on the street. We're waiting for her. She's been singing that Glorilla my wife to do it on the street. We're waiting for her. She's singing that Glorilla song, big G-L-O.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And she's walking around our apartment singing that song. I'm like, what happened to you? She's like, it's all over TikTok. I'm like, yes. What is the song? And then I go, can you Sea Walk while she's doing it? And her version of Sea Walk, oh, god. I bet it looks like Dove's.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I go, Sea Walk, she goes, she goes. Hey, get your hands off of me. I got a good one. I got a good one. My wife is singing white women songs now and I'm annoyed by that. Sabrina Carpenter she loves and I'm just like, what's happening? No, that girl's a problem, man. She's great, but it's too many of them. She just knows all the white things now.
Starting point is 00:21:42 She likes Alex Earl. I'm like, this is too many of these. It's nice, right? Let's get back to the, this is too many of these. It's nice. Let's get back to the shop at Rainbow. It's happening. It's happening. My wife, she shopped at Rainbow. What happened to that girl? What's the Alex Earl girl is is the thing to women right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's yeah, she's it. Should we start trying to like get dressed more?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah. Like, apparently, yeah, like, apparently getting ready is like, uh... Yeah, you're getting ready to not go to work, it's crazy. We'd be out here building studios for all this money, trying to have hot takes about, you know, topical issues. We could just get ready and be trillionaires, right? Like, this girl got Carl's Jr. for life from getting ready. Yeah. And you know, damn well she throws that fucking Carl's Jr. on the media.
Starting point is 00:22:24 There's no... Very nice Jr. on the media. Very nice girl. Very nice girl. I have no idea who you're talking about. No she's a very nice girl and her man is Braxton Berryless. Yeah plays for the Dolphins. Who's the fucker man? Shout out Braxton. Yeah. Yo Braxton bro. Also you made a good point. You're like the fact that there's any OnlyFans girls ever that take their clothes off for money when you could make- When you could put them on and make more. Crazy, right? Not everybody got a father. She's a singer or just a get ready with me girl?
Starting point is 00:22:50 No, she's a get ready with me. She's one of the best at getting ready I've seen. Yeah. Like she gets ready so good. You gotta watch her get ready. Can we get a video up of the getting ready? Yeah. Yeah, let's get it ready real quick.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Let's put it in reverse and then just loop it. No, but imagine you're an OnlyFans girl. That's a great point. Imagine you're an OnlyFans girl and you're like great point. Imagine you're an OnlyFans girl, and you're getting naked and doing all these photo shoots, and this girl is just putting on makeup and making millions of dollars. She look a little Bonnie Blue in her face.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Well, Bonnie Blue's pretty. Bonnie Blue's issue isn't her looks. It's the amount of dicks that go inside of her in a given hour. That's a good point. That is true. That is a good point. Thousands of dicks in an hour is crazy. But like I just love how she gets ready. Like she like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I feel like you're being a little bit sarcastic right now. Are you being mean again, Mike? I'm not being mean. It sounds like he's being horny right now. I'm being more horny. I got no one to get ready with. No one's supposed to get ready with. How's freedom? Two weeks is awesome. You got two weeks. Yeah, I got food poisoning on day two.
Starting point is 00:23:52 So, I heard about this shit. I called it. You were pre-retarded. Did you hear about this food poisoning? Yeah, I fumbled. Because I was like, look, I'm not going to eat crazy. You know what I mean? We had extra chicken in the fridge from pre-retired the oven. And here's the crazy thing. I thought you got to wash the chicken with soap.
Starting point is 00:24:12 It was chicken. It was from three days ago. I was like, oh, that's fine. I ate the whole thing. Call my girls. She's like, would you be for dinner? I was like, oh, I had the chicken you ordered. She was like from a week ago. I was like, yeah. She was like, I ordered that seven days ago. So you definitely should not eat that. I was like, babe, I'm not. That's chicken. What are we talking about? Yeah. And then woke up in the morning, threw up four times,
Starting point is 00:24:28 called Dove, threw up on the phone with Dove. Dove starts throwing up, contagious from across Manhattan. And then, yeah, I couldn't make it to the pod, so my apologies. But other than that, things have been great. How dare you. Yeah, other than that, I've been having a great time, dude. Yeah. My apartment is a disaster. The cat litter has not been cleaned out.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And then the cat sitter snitched on me. Cleaning lady, baby. That's the move. What is the thing that you... Why you need a cat sitter if you're home? Because I left, I went to Florida for the weekend and the cat sitter put in the group chat like, yeah, everything's going great.
Starting point is 00:24:57 The cat's doing awesome. The cat litter box had a ton of stuff for me. Oh, she was snitching. I was like, what the fuck? You gotta say that. She texted me privately. Yeah, all the time. I forgot to do it on the last day, regardless.
Starting point is 00:25:08 So what is the thing you did the most now that you're a wife and a son? Drinking a urchin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just trying to make sure. How many days you wait, or was it day one that you just sat on that toilet? No, you gotta edge.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Hour, dude, how many hours did you wait? Stop it. No, you gotta edge. I edged for three, four days, and then just. What do you mean? Yeah, bro, you gotta edge. Did you ever watch girls get ready for three, four days and then... Yeah bro, you gotta edge. You just watch girls get ready for three years. That's what I was doing. I was getting ready.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I was getting ready. You're a psychopath. I'm trying to see how many I can get out in a day. We got reggings to break. That's what I'm saying. I had a 12 for one day bro. That's the show we're staying on. What? 12? You can't judge Bonnie anymore. 12 or one day bro Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:51 12 is not that's my record I tried it. When I put my effort into something, my... When I put my mind into it. This is a real thing. Apparently, Team Master Race 56 times. The dyes of a heart attack. Is that a real story? Of course it's a real story. It's from Punch News. Where I get all of my news.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But yeah, so I only did 55 just to be safe. Alright, we could talk about the Super Bowl, but it was, it was ass. It was the worst day of my life. It was, yeah, it was the best day of Tom Brady's life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there's a lot of Brady stands out there. They were very happy. Oh, so happy.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I saw Vala, he was so excited. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, it was interesting. I didn't think it was gonna be that dominant. I did not either. So I didn't, just briefly, were the Eagles just that much better, or did the Chiefs suck? That much better.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Also, here's what, this one guy, Brian Baldinger, very smart football guy, he basically brought up that any, So I didn't just briefly were the Eagles just that much better? Did the Chiefs suck? That much better. Also here's what this one guy Brian Baldwin's a very smart football guy. He's basically brought up that any no matter how great a quarterback is the way you normally pressure them is you send a blitz meaning you have your four linemen and then you send another guy to like put pressure on them. Any great quarterback will eat you up if you blitz but if those front four linemen can cause hell for the quarterback that's how the Giants were great. That's how the Bucs beat Mahomes and quarterback, that's how the Giants beat Brady, that's how the Bucks beat Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:27:06 and that's how the Eagles dominated the Chiefs. The Chiefs weren't as good as they used to be. They were eating up that line, but it was crazy. But Mahomes is still so good, but if your four linemen, especially the left tackle and the Chiefs, which is maybe the most important lineman, has been bad all year, and somehow they kept winning and getting away with it, and then the Eagles,
Starting point is 00:27:22 their defensive ends are really good, just single-handhandedly that line, especially that position destroyed the game Yeah, and my homes had no time to find anybody and the rest of the team is not as good So it's just a dominating horrible day of my life. And that's just really God's way of telling me that plus Luca is like God's way of tough week You know God has like an 8 life. Yeah, you had a tough week. You had a tough week. You know, God has like an eight billion point plan. You know, and one of his points is this little fat Indian kid needs to get on Ozempic and stop watching so much sports. Really get his life together.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah. Because the Luka trade, we haven't talked about in public. I'm so fucking broken for this. I've never seen an organization do this. How do you play with the Lakers? I didn't watch the game last night. It was fun. I didn't. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I watched it. It was good? Yeah, it was fun. He had a really great moment where LeBron's on a fast break. LeBron looks way younger. First game with Luka, and he's on a fast break. LeBron looks way younger first game with Luca and he's on a fast break and Luca looks up court and sees him and literally big smile tosses it up to LeBron. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be awesome. Been watching that guy for 20 years. And you get to throw him an alley-oop. I mean also I was at the Knicks game and I was it was Knicks Lakers
Starting point is 00:28:22 It is so hard as a 41 year old man to not root for Lebron. Like everything he did, I was like, get them young motherfuckers. Like I was so excited for him, I couldn't believe it. Like I would get up after sitting down and my knees would hurt, right? I'm sitting down and I'm drinking tequila and I would get up and I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:28:41 ooh, I can't celebrate that much. Like it had to be a big play for me to get up Right and the Knicks were down the majority of the game I think we were down 14 and we like hit some three and I got up at one point I was really excited. I got back down. I was like, that's all I'm getting up for the rest of the game And I'm watching LeBron dunk from the fucking dotted line. That sounds crazy. You went home to your wife She's like how was watching LeBron. You're like babe my knees hurt My knees are killing me. So I was like, yeah, I don't know, it's just.
Starting point is 00:29:06 He had a triple double. Who did? LeBron in that game. LeBron, yeah, I mean, he was just phenomenal. So it's, I'm rooting for him. I'm rooting for him as an old man. I'm rooting for Luca, I'm rooting for LeBron. I love JJ Reddick.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I'm rooting for LeBron the way Chinese people rooted for Jeremy Lin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't feel representation in the league. And now that I see LeBron just dunking on people at 40 I'm like I could do that shit with Paddle. All things are possible. All things are possible. I need to be on whatever he's on. Yeah. He's Barack for 40 year old men. Yes. Yeah I didn't know this was possible. It's just so amazing to see. It's amazing to see. I feel like such a piece of shit when I come home from work and like my daughter wants to run around and I'm like why don't we just stay in a playpen. I can control you in the playpen and then I see
Starting point is 00:29:53 LePron just tongue for the fucking free throw line. Yeah he sees it. Jackie Robinson of old guys. He really is dude. He broke the age barrier. It's insane. Yeah not a lot of people yelling shit at him. I'm broken. Yeah, it was crazy. It was also crazy to see like people root for Bronny. But Bronny, they were, the whole garden, notorious haters, like boo. If you're bad at the national anthem, like in the middle, they're like yelling shit out. They're cheering for Bronny to come on.
Starting point is 00:30:23 He comes on, hits a lampup, and they go crazy. I would think New York would maybe boo him. Yeah. Yeah, I'm surprised about that. If he's playing alone without LeBron, boo him. But it's bigger than basketball. It's a story. New Yorkers love family.
Starting point is 00:30:38 It's like Fast and Furious. There is something about that though. He seems like a good kid, man. I played well in the G League, so it's not like he sucks. Fast and furious there is something about that though He seems like a good kid man like I Played well in the G League So it's like it's not like he sucks and he's got the highest expectation of any player in history without The expectation of the skill so like everybody goes all Ronnie sucks, and then when he doesn't play amazing They're like he fucking sucks
Starting point is 00:31:00 It's like every like 90% of the players that are drafted no matter if you're drafted number one You're driving number fucking 50 suck. Hmm. Yo the difference between LeBron as a father and MJ as a father is crazy Gets his kid in the league puts him on his team. Yeah, MJ in his Hall of Fame speech is like sucks to be y'all He puts him on his team. MJ in his Hall of Fame speech is like, sucks to be y'all. You know that part? I feel sorry for y'all. You know what I think?
Starting point is 00:31:27 MJ was proud of his son when he was piping Pippen's ex-wife. Sure. Do you think he'd be the ultimate competitor? He'd have that from me. Yes, that's what he did. He don't care about you. He getting arrested, coked up, and MJ's like,
Starting point is 00:31:38 ah, what you gonna do? LeBron really is MJ LeVar Ball put into one guy. You know what I mean? Like perfect dad, perfect player. Just like helping out his family. What a guy, dude. No, it was cool to see. Yeah, cool for y'all.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I'm broken. I don't think I watch sports anymore. Really? It's over, dude. The Mavs fucking ripped my heart out. The Cowboys suck every year. The Eagles won the Super Bowl. It truly is just not, it's not for me anymore.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I'm out. I'm out. I'll keep betting on it with steak. That's it. I'll do it with no hard balls. Shout out steak, man. Yeah, I guess we only got, we. I'll keep betting on it with steak. That's it. I'll do it with hard balls. Shut up, steak, man. Yeah, I guess we only got basketball to gamble on.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah, yeah, it's over now. Yeah. I like betting on sports. I won my Super Bowl box. What was your box? Zero, two. Like I won the final score on my Super Bowl box. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It's fun, right? What the fuck? No, it's just like, how does that work? Yeah. It's fun, right? What? The box thing is specific. How does that work? So basically you just get two numbers and that has to be the score at the end of the quarter, end of the half, end of the game. So if it's like 12 to 7, whoever had 2 and 7 ends up winning. And it's a fun way to keep people interested in the game even if you don't have a team
Starting point is 00:32:43 in play. That's how bad the Super Bowl was. That zero held up for quite some time. Oh, bro. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah, it's a... I didn't even see when it happened.
Starting point is 00:32:50 No, I left. Yeah. Because I think the score was right at the end. Yeah, I couldn't leave. Yeah. I was stuck. Can we bet on Akash's happiness? Is that possible on stake?
Starting point is 00:33:00 Fucking negative. I would take the over on him just being miserable forever. Yeah. Just watching sports. Tug, these young kids who are like, I support the players, they got it. My brother was saying that. The team fuck you all the time.
Starting point is 00:33:11 LeBron is never gonna let me down. The organization, some fucking retard who can't even run a casino properly when gambling is legal, he could buy your team and trade your best player. Fucking gopher looking motherfucker could do that. But that was Nico that did that. Nico did it, but the owner signed off and the owner said,
Starting point is 00:33:26 hey, if you don't work hard, if you look at all the greats in our time, like Shaq, they worked hard. Shaq says all the time, I never worked hard. He's like, I didn't work out in the off season. I use the regular season to get in shape. So if your issue is you need to be in better shape, don't choose Shaq as the shining example. It just lets me know you don't know anything.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Apparently also, if you say anything negative, like if you're wearing anything remotely negative that kick you out of the stadium, they wouldn't show fans on the Jumbotron because they were so worried they were gonna say negative things. They raised season ticket prices two days after trading Luka by 61%.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Like these guys are fucking monsters. They're trash, fuck them. Wow. I don't care how much you support Israel, leave my Mavericks alone. Let them be them. You know what I mean care how much you support Israel. Leave my Mavericks alone. Let them be them. You know what I mean? Do whatever you gotta do over there.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Leave my basketball team. Don't turn it into Gaza. The Adelsons. The Adelsons who own. That's funny. Yeah, they're big guys, real guys. What is the Mavericks arena? AAC.
Starting point is 00:34:19 What is it called? The American Airlines Center. Yeah, the American Airlines Center is your Gaza. Yeah. Yeah, they're leveling it, dude. Anyway, if you want to gamble, you can do it with Stake. Stake is the leader in global betting in U.S. social casinos. Bet on top sports and political events and use the promo code FLAYGRANT for your welcome
Starting point is 00:34:38 bonus. Now, let's get back to the show. Bet against the Mavs. Guys, now that we've maintained our masculinity by talking about the Super Bowl, can we talk about what we actually wanna talk about? Yes. Well, if you could guess, what would it be? I know. I mean, just take a wild guess.
Starting point is 00:34:51 What would it be? Guys, where are we? The Middle East. Almost. It's honestly, it's a conflict that I feel like. This is a much more interesting conflict. Yeah, it's more complicated. It's far more complicated and it's longer lasting.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Yeah, yeah. What is it? What would you think? Al, you're an expert on this particular topic. It involves a white woman. It involves, oh, a little Taylor, a little Blake Lively, a little Baldoni. Justin Baldoni.
Starting point is 00:35:16 You're watching this now. You're making me excited now. Finally, let's start the pot. It was crazy, because you guys were talking about it. I didn't really know anything about it, and I was sort of like, all right, let's see whatever this is. And then I got into it and it-
Starting point is 00:35:28 You have the least white wife in this entire group, that's unbelievable. Yeah, she didn't know it was on. My wife been on it, yo. Yeah, I explained it to her and everything. I've been teaching my wife. It might be a black thing, I'm gonna say. I'm like, babe, you gotta sit down right now.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah. It did bring out the little gay fat boy in me, to be honest. I read all 500 pages of the amended complaint, as well as the important timeline of events that Justin Baldoni released on his website this morning. Okay. So, Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds,
Starting point is 00:36:02 and kinda Taylor Swift. Yeah. Until recently, it seems like she's distancing herself, according to an inside source, which is a release of TMZ this morning. Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and kinda Taylor Swift. Until recently, it seems like she's distancing herself according to an inside source, which is a release of TMZ this morning. She's smart. Allegedly. Okay, so where does this begin? Oh my goodness. There's a book.
Starting point is 00:36:14 It ends with us. My wife actually read the book before. Really? Yeah. My wife too, no big deal. Really? Wait, your wife hasn't read Fourth Wing? What? Oh, I'm on that now. I'm a white woman, too!
Starting point is 00:36:27 You guys won it, finally! Okay. You guys let your wives read? You read? Fourth Wing? Yeah. It's good? I'll check it out.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Audio book, bud. I'm on it. It is so fun. It's good, J.A. I need to read it all the time. You need to write books for women because once one is popular, every single woman devours that shit. Yeah. Fourth wing, it ends with us, I think there's another one.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I told you about... What's that? A Court of Thorn and Roses was big. That is another one. Outlander, remember I told you about this? Oh, the TV show? My girl read all of Outlander, which is the most insane show. It's not a TV show?
Starting point is 00:36:58 It is a TV show, but it was a book originally. And it's about a woman that goes back in time so that she can cheat on her husband, like, consensually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's literally the whole thing is time travel's real so she can fuck, like, an old Scotsman and, like, justify cheating. That's the entire book. My wife's like, it's just amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It's like history. I need to talk. I was like, oh, I know. It's not history. I love this concept. It is kind of firework. The first season goes so crazy. Yeah, like, Elon, what you doing?
Starting point is 00:37:22 Make some fucking time to talk. If I could double the number of women I've had sex with. Yeah, yeah. You had sex with me? And the first season goes so crazy. It starts in World War II, goes back to the Battle of Culloden where the Scottish try to get independence, and then they also do the American Revolution in the same season. You said a lot of words.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, it's all bullshit. And it's a whole lot of shit. It's history plus cheating. It's fire. Okay. But anyway, so basically they make this book. It ends with us. You guys read it.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Justin Baldoni, who's an actor, hot guy, but he's like really big into like not- He's a stud. He's a really handsome guy. He's like very like what is masculinity? And I listened to a little podcast he did. Attractive people, I don't really listen to when they talk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I just objectify them. I gave this one a chance and I was actually impressed. Oh really? You started listening to him? I started listening to him, well I was like 10 minutes before I was like, I need to see him. Yeah, I just need to jerk off. You got a hedge, dude. But he's basically like, you know, what is masculinity? And I think he's like, I don't like the term toxic masculinity.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It's too like political. And masculinity is not toxic. So he's not like a complete cuck. He talks like an actor, which is a little annoying. But he's not like a complete cuck. He talks like an actor was a little annoying, but he's like, I just think. I like that angle though. Yeah, he's like, men, if you have trauma, you should work through it
Starting point is 00:38:30 because most of the time you're with your girl, you could do a lot more damage to her if you don't work through your trauma than she could do to you. What was his trauma? Did he talk about that? No, I didn't listen to that. He does have some trauma.
Starting point is 00:38:38 What's his trauma? So he says that he was sexually assaulted as a young man. I get that though. By an older, I think she was older, by a young man. I get that, though. By an older, I think she was older, by a woman, and that's how he lost his virginity, and it was not really... 20? Yeah, it wasn't really consensual. She kind of like coerced him into it,
Starting point is 00:38:53 and then he felt guilty and has trauma from that. That's a part of it. He was also introduced to porn at a young age. I think he was like 12 when he was introduced to porn. That's everybody. Guys, guys, guys, guys. What's happening? I got a sex bomb.
Starting point is 00:39:04 He had a porn addiction as well that he talked about that he recovered from. How do you recover from it? Edging. So you just never come and you're not addicted anymore. Fair enough. Wait, 12 times in a day, is that a problem? I think so. You're a serial killer.
Starting point is 00:39:18 12 times. Yeah. But that's my record though. I was going for it. Yeah But most I could do but he gets the rights this book like five years ago I keep his email and the author Colleen Hoover like hey, I'm starting this production company I would love to make a book about this thing. It's important Five feet apart remember that movie we watched on an airplane. He made five feet apart. Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:43 We were traveling to Russia to Russia. Oh, yes. I'm traveling to Russia and I love this movie. She has cystic fibrosis. Yeah. So sweet life is that Godi's in it. I don't know what that is. Yeah. The actor Cole Sprouse, yeah, yeah, yeah, with the long hair. He's kind of dreamy. Yeah. And a lot of hot guys. Hot guys. Hey, hey, hey, hey, the show's not all we object about women, too, OK? Don't think we're some fucking libs like you. No.
Starting point is 00:40:13 No, but, uh, speaking of which, David said something insane. Guys, this show's becoming way too lit, OK? We need to talk about women, fast. OK. Bro, I was hanging with David, and literally Archer was hanging with us, and he leaves, and then David goes, bro, I swear to God, if I was a girl, I'd let Archer hit.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yo, what the fuck? Yo, David. I was like, bro, what? David, facts. Yes. Yes. Archer, you can get it. You're the baldoni of the studio, Archer. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:42 It was supposed to be Mark, but he fell off. Yeah, he did. I had a kid, bro. He fell off. He fell off. Yeah, he took a whole lot of time. I had a kid, bro. You had a kid, he fell off. Now Arch got that little hockey haircut. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:50 We see you, Arch, not wearing socks. Bro, wait, what? Why are you looking at me? Check it out. I ain't looking at his ankles. That's crazy, bro. I ain't never looked at his ankles. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Whatever. I didn't call H.O. for that one. So that's great. My bad, my bad, my bad. So Baldoine gets the rights to his movie, right? Yeah, yeah. And they start working on it. No, we talk about the cystic great. My bad, my bad, my bad. So Baldoine gets the rights to this movie, right? Yeah, yeah. And they start working on it? No, we need to talk about the cystic fibrosis.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Fibrosis. Keep going. We're watching this movie, and we're just watching whatever's on the screen. I look over, and Al's watching this movie, and he turns to me, he goes, yo, I ain't gonna lie. This movie is fire. Put this on.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I go, all right. I put it on. It's just like rom-com with people who can't be around each other, but you fall out. There's no calm, really. It's not even calm. It's just like a dramaticcom with people who can't be around each other, but you fall in love. There's no calm, really. It's not even calm. It's just like a dramatic romantic. It's like The Fault in Our Stars, which I've read.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Exactly. OK, whoa. Yeah. Whoa. OK. Fantastic. About like an hour in, I look over. And Al is taking the blanket.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And he is blowing his nose because he is snot crying on the plane. And he goes... And he looks at me and goes, yo, this shit is crazy right here, bro. This shit is crazy. And you know what's coming. That's the crazy part. There's only two movies that made me cry I'm playing like that that will buy you blue by you which I didn't watch on my own screen I watch that the Bonnie blue movie Justin Chong Chong Justin Chung, okay, and and I watched that on the screen next to me and me and the guy next to me
Starting point is 00:42:20 Cried I didn't have any words Me and the guy next to me were crying together and And it started like he was annoyed I was watching, and by then he was like, no, this shit hit right out of there. Dude, that is unbelievable. It gets you so badly. Oh my God. Shout out, Justin. And what's it called? Strong Side. Left side, Strong Side. Remember the Titans.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Also Coco. Coco is that's about it. Oh, Coco was a banger. I cry on land, I cry on anything. Lion. Lion? Lion. What's a lion? Is it some Jewish shit? Lion is a Deppertown movie.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It didn't make me cry though. Why is the mic so low? I know. It's actually like a straight entry. Bring the mic up. Lion. He's doing a lion fade. He got the mic.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Lion is fire. It's based on a true story. Indian kid. Ain't nobody cares. That's a good point. That's a good point. And then Five Feet based on a true story. Indian kids. Ain't nobody cares. That's a good point. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And then five feet apart is where you cried at. But okay, back to this. On the way to Russia, they didn't listen to the country for being gay. And we had to go home. That was crazy. Remember when they asked us about that? They were like, oh, you have a black friend who's very gay. He was crying in the movie. How did you get around that, Al? I don't remember. Oh, you have a black friend who's very gay
Starting point is 00:43:28 How did you get around that out And he shows that to Colleen Hoover and she's like you, you're amazing, you're perfect for my book. And they go ahead and get into pre-production for the movie. They get Sony to be the partner to actually make the movie come together. And then it's produced and directed by Justin Baldoni and his company Wayfarer Studios. Coincidentally, it also is starring Justin Baldoni. Fire.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Does he play the abuser? Yes. And so the book, could you explain what you know about the book? This girl meets this guy in high school. She's from an abusive household, like wildly, violently abusive. This guy is like homeless and then they form a friendship that turns into something more. They've drift apart, college, whatever they move, I guess.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And then she falls in love with this guy who's like, he seems nice, but he's also like neurosurgeon handsome does all these things that are like kind of possessive, but she didn't really catch the red flags earlier, whatever. They get married, have a kid, he becomes more abusive. He sexually assaults her at one point. That's Baldoni? Yeah, and they have a baby. Character.
Starting point is 00:44:35 And then at the end, the decision she makes, you should know this, I'm not spoiling anything, she leaves him, it ends with us. A cycle of abuse and violence that I grew up with is going to end with this. I'm not going to let my kid see this. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fairly dark movie. Yeah, that seems pretty dark. There's romance, but it's pretty dark.
Starting point is 00:44:49 And so that's important to note. We're supposed to believe that she left Baldoni. That's... Is that what we're supposed to believe? It's funny, my wife was showing me TikToks after of a bunch of girls being like, a bunch of girls left the movie being like, leaving the movie knowing I'd take him back. I'd take him back.
Starting point is 00:45:02 100% beat once a month. You get to walk around with him every day. Neurosurgeon? Neurosurgeon. and leaving the movie knowing I'd take him back. I'd take him back 100% and beat once a month. You get to walk around with him every day. Neurosurgeon? Neurosurgeon. Oh, yeah. You didn't fix it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah. Yeah. So that's what the book is about, which is important to note, because it comes up later with all the backlash that Lively gets. So basically, Baldoni, Wayfair, and Sony approach Lively. They get her cast as the main character, as Lily. Which in immediately, my understanding, even my wife was like, I don't, she's like a fan of
Starting point is 00:45:31 Gossip Girl and all that. She's like, I don't love this casting. She's a bit too old to play this girl in high school and like, or whatever. Just like, it doesn't work. It doesn't work to me. But everybody feels that way. I guess so. I guess a lot of fans are generally like that. I remember when Tom Hanks was cast as Da Vinci Code, I was tight. But that haircut ruined that whole movie. No, it wasn't a haircut. It was like when I was watching it,
Starting point is 00:45:48 I just imagined him being so handsome. I imagined Richard Gere. I read all those books. I read Angels and Demons. I read every one of those damn brown books. You're coming in hot. Can I tell you something? Flaming hot.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Flaming hot. Did you imagine Tom Hanks? No, but I wasn't mad because he wasn't handsome enough. I was like that's fire but then that stupid haircut was crazy. The haircut was crazy anyway. All right anyway. But Tom Hanks in like a tweed jacket like I don't you know but Richard Gere in the other hand. Do you know what I mean? The guy was fighting Crawford.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Miles New. Miles New. He got excited. Who'd you want him to be? The guy was piping coffee. Miles at a corner. Miles knew. Miles knew. He got excited. Miles, who'd you want him to be? Christian Bale or something. Yeah, like a hot guy. I remember Christian Bale popping back then. He had an American Psycho, but that's it.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Anyway, go ahead. He had a body in an American Psycho though. Basically. Had a body. They start going, another one. Like, you might have killed him. Another one. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:39 It's what it is. What is that called? Murder. Murder. Murder. Murder. Murder. Murder. Murder. Murder. You know what I mean? Like, another one. You know what I'm saying? It's what it is. Murder me!
Starting point is 00:46:54 This is why female serial killers, it could be the easiest job in the world. Right? Like, remember that girl, what was her name? She killed like four. She killed like four. And it was like, alright. Like, we're supposed to be impressed by that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Okay. There we go. So basically they do the movie, start getting a pre-production, okay? Again, everything I'm about to say also is allegedly, there's lawsuits flying everywhere. I don't want to get embroiled in this. It's all allegedly.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I'm also- Hey, embroil us, Mark. I'm trying to also be unbiased, okay? Because if the allegations are true and Blake Lively was sexually harassed, that's bad Yeah, but if Baldo needs whole career is getting skewered. It could be worse, but it's bad Could be worse with bad that's all I'm saying could be worse like I could be sexually harassing her? That's worse. That's worse. Yeah, and more likely. That's way worse. Just those eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Stereotypically slightly more like... Why smile? You got an egg. That is crazy. The last thing you see is your big beautiful eyes. Give me vaginine, Bob. Give me vaginine, Bob. Give me my genome ball! So, give us some good sex overrasing you learned back home.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It was like that cat from Alice in Wonderland. So, this is going into pre-production, right? And they're going back and forth, they have the script basically done, and then slowly it seems like there's things that are coming up that are potentially red flags. Now, there's also a piece of this that I think is very important. Blake Lively, prior to doing the movie, like months before, just had her fourth child. Wow. Beautiful. So, she just delivered a baby, and she's now raising a newborn while on the set, but also is recovering from nine months of pregnancy. Beautiful. So she just delivered a baby and she's now raising a newborn while on the set, but also
Starting point is 00:48:45 is recovering from nine months of pregnancy. Yeah. Which I think is a big part of this that I think some people leave out. So they start getting to pre-production and then slowly she starts to kind of like not be super easy to work with, it seems like according to the text that Baldoni's released. So she hasn't read the book. That's a problem. And initially, and I don't know if she
Starting point is 00:49:06 reads it later, but according to the text, in the pre-production, she hasn't read the book. She wants to just be living in the script and be married to the character in the script. Actually, I like that. Can I be honest with you? That's an excuse to be lazy, yo. That's what I say to every movie when I don't want to read the whole script. Yeah. I go, I just don't want to know what happens next because my character wouldn't know. I swear that's the excuse I use every single time. I'm just too lazy to read it. And I usually read it after and I'm like, oh, that happened? Like I didn't even know I was gay
Starting point is 00:49:31 in that TV show on Hulu. I showed up today and I had my hands on the wall and I was like, what the fuck is this about? I'm just as surprised as you. You weren't annoyed when they were like, you're perfect for the role. Well after the fact, now look at me, perfect, you listen to his podcast or something?
Starting point is 00:49:46 Good God. So, and then there's another thing that happens early on that's a little bit of a red flag. Baldoni's really, really strict on getting intimacy coordinator. He wants an intimacy coordinator. He wants an intimacy coordinator. This is someone that comes into the production
Starting point is 00:50:00 that is able to supervise all the sex scenes. To make sure nobody feels uncomfortable. And also to coordinate the sex scenes so that they play more realistically and that they sort of can tap into the audience that they're trying to reach. Realistic and still safe. That's your whole job. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:13 So, but if that was one of your man's, you could hire him and be like, yo, watch me work. Right? Like, how do we know that that person's a professional and that it's not like Joey, you know, Tuba from New Jersey who's like, yo, make this shit intimate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do we have a track record?
Starting point is 00:50:32 So he says to Blake in text, you can meet... There's an interview coordinator I love, would love for you to meet her and get your sign up before we move forward. She says, no, I'm good. We don't need to meet with this person. Now, she says specifically, I'll meet with them once we start filming, but she declines it in pre-production. Got it.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And so some people look at this and say, oh, she's- Again, that's lazy. She declined to, she's also working on other stuff. People say, oh- This is a mom, she's got four kids, she just had a kid. Like, she don't have time to meet up with this intimacy coordinator. Also, she's not assuming anything crazy is gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So people are saying she's denying the- She's a white woman, she's always assuming something crazy. Constantly searching for something crazy. And you're the lead of this, like you gotta be all in. And then other people say no, she didn't decline the intimacy coordinate, she just postponed it for the scenes that required like, you know, full on intimacy, birth, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:51:21 So that's like the big note that everyone's pointing at, she declines it. And then slowly addendums and changes to the script start to happen. So April 9th, 2023, she starts having notes on the rooftop scene. This is like an infamous scene where the two of them meet for the first time.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And she wants to kind of like change the script a little bit. She wants to like revise it. She does her version of the scene. It kind of changes up a bunch of stuff. Sends it to Baldoni and says, hey, I revised it. Before she sends it, she also makes a statement where she goes, a lot of times on these movies, I will rewrite whole scenes. I will add stuff to the movie that gets added in and I never get any credit. And sometimes I add stuff and people don't
Starting point is 00:51:56 even want to hear it. Like I'm intimately involved in the production and no one gives me the time of day. And that's really frustrating as like an actor and all the stuff that I've done this far in Hollywood. She, you maybe didn't mention, she's also a producer. Yeah. And that's really frustrating as like an actor and all the stuff that I've done this this far in Hollywood. She Maybe didn't mention she's also a producer. Yeah, then he's a later. No, I think from the beginning. She's a producer Yeah, I'm if someone of her size that's stepping into a role in more independent film So it's not just an actress wanting to change a scene. It's also someone with power now dove What are the rules in Hollywood about that? Is there like producer name only or is there? No, I mean if you're a producer,
Starting point is 00:52:29 you have the rights to communicate with, she's powerful enough that she can speak up. I mean we got some producers on, on my special did have no right to do anything. Yeah, we just kind of put them in there. But you're a little different than Baldoni turns out. Hopefully. Hopefully in the right way.
Starting point is 00:52:46 No, but Baldoni's very accommodating. And I'm confirming, there can be a million EPs, but as a producer-producer, the ones that would actually win an Academy Award if it got to that point, I think a four, five, maybe, she's a proper producer on this one. Okay, good. So, he's like, yeah, yeah, you can send me over your change. By the way, when I was talking about producers on the special, I'm just talking about Scooter Braun.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Okay? That's the only one I'm talking about. Everybody else did a lot of work for it, and thank you very much. Scooter, that's for you, okay? I didn't go to the Nova exhibit, so Scooter, you get to be in my producer special. All fair. Fair trade.
Starting point is 00:53:20 My bad on that one. My bad on that one. But she makes changes and then sends it over to him, and then he basically responds this. And I also think it's worth noting that it seems like Baldoni is potentially on the spectrum a little. That he says stuff and does things that are so well-intentioned but that come off weird.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Okay. And so he basically says, hey, I really appreciate your passion on this, this is awesome. I think realistically the final version of this will probably be like a blend between like the original version and your version. That's what I expected.
Starting point is 00:53:48 That's someone on the spectrum. You think that Al would work at anything like that? So the way that. After I put it in Chad GBT, yeah. That doesn't seem expected at all. That seems like high emotional intelligence. The way she interprets it. How do you pronounce the other AI?
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yo, shut the fuck up. How do you pronounce the other AI? Art's talking right now. Art's talking. A white man is talking. Shut up. That's also the P out. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I needed that. Go, go, go. But so, what do you call it? I don't know, I just wanna hear him say it. What's the other chat she'd be taking for like history and stuff? Perplexity. I don't even know if.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Perplexity? I don't know this one. I swear to God, I don't know this one. Go ahead, my bad. So. I'll use the one I don't know this one. No, go ahead. My bad. So I'll use the one you could say. She interprets it as him going, Blake, hey, we're not going to use this, but I love your passion.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I love that you're so like into this, but we're not going to really use this. That's the way she interprets it. Oh, see? I didn't know that. So she's pissed off. See, I didn't sense that. Yeah, they do that, right? They do that, right?
Starting point is 00:54:44 Don't they do that? Like, he said one thing and she heard something. She heard a totally different thing. She managed to find a way to make a negative, asshole-ish thing. Even when you have your best intentions and you try to accommodate their feelings. Yeah. And what about that spectrum, do you honestly?
Starting point is 00:54:57 Well, there's a couple of other things that come up a little bit later that are like... Did he know the exact train times for arrivals? All right, guys, you've seen the colors of change in the room. You already know what time it is. OK, Valentine's Day is approaching. I hope you're ready. You know how to be ready.
Starting point is 00:55:12 You know the thing that you need to deliver. If you have that date, you need to be the best version of yourself, OK? You need to deliver. You need to be rocked up. You need to be rocked up. You need to be hulked. You need to be put in a situation where you're proud of the veins in your shit.
Starting point is 00:55:32 How do you do that? Kachit? I wouldn't recommend that. Not at all. Don't break up your family, okay? What you should do is give your wife, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, Justin Baldoni,
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Starting point is 00:57:17 to like work on the script and to hash out scenes and do like regular production stuff. Got it. So when, let's stop there. How would y'all feel if your wife. I ain't going. That's what I'm saying. Wait, you ain't going, you were not invited.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Your wife's getting piped out by Jason Baldoni. Of course you're not there. Yeah, I'm not there. I'm not gonna be, I'm putting my foot down. I'm not gonna go alone to this handsome guy. You're not the star of the movie. I'm not gonna play. Who's going to the movie? If I'm Baldoni, I'm not going. Oh, oh. If I'm Baldoni, I'm not even going. Oh movie. I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What was going on? If I'm Baldoni, I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Oh. If I'm Baldoni, I'm not even going. Oh, no. I'm actually about, like, if your wife would start a movie, and she's inviting Baldoni over. You're not even doing the movie. What are you talking about? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:56 You're not even doing the movie. You're a housewife. No, no, no. You're doing a movie with an ugly guy. OK, fair enough. Ugly guy, by all means. There we go. Jonah Hill, move you to an ugly guy. Okay, fair enough. Ugly guy by all means. There we go. Jonah Hill, come over.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah. Workshop some lines. He's skinny now. Yeah, now I feel bad. Now you made me feel bad. Yeah, he sure. I thought we could all get on board on that. He's like, duh.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yeah. It's a good one, that's a good one. He's skinny now, I said you're skinny now. Yeah. He was saying he was. Now you're going now. Yeah. He was saying, you're saying? Now you're going too far. Now you're going too far. You can't take the compliment of being skinny
Starting point is 00:58:30 if you were never fat, never. It's normal, it's normal. But you know like when fat people get skinny, you kinda got like, you got like post fat body? Bro, when we were in Turkey, he couldn't buckle the life vest. He put on the life vest and it wouldn't buckle. He said, yo, yo, can you loosen it from the back?. He said, yo, yo, can you loosen it from the back?
Starting point is 00:58:46 He said, can you loosen it from the back? I was like, no, you're gonna drown, you're fat ass. Why do you need a life vest? Yeah, you float, that's nice. That's not a problem. So basically, Baldoni shows up to the residence of Blake Lively and greeted at the door is Ryan Reynolds. He's very excited to see him.
Starting point is 00:59:03 He's like, dude, we're so excited to work on this movie. Blake's been super obsessed with the script. This is going to be great. They sit down and they go through the script. And then at that same meeting, all of a sudden a quote mega celebrity walks in and is also talking about the rooftop scene that Blake had adjusted. And she's like, oh my goodness, we love Blake's version of the rooftop scene. Everyone loves the way Blake did the rooftop.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Oh, so putting a little pressure on Baldoinito. Now, this mega superstar is not strictly named. I have noticed that in the timeline of events from Baldoinito's website, there is actually an uncensored version. I don't know if it's on purpose or on accident, where they do say Taylor, which we can presume is Taylor Swift, who is the godparent
Starting point is 00:59:40 to Blake Lively's children. Son, we got to send Mark's wife away more often. Not in detail. He is breaking his down with an absolutely serious issue. If anyone can diagnose autism, it's me. All right? I mean the ways. He didn't read a lot of reading while he was edging.
Starting point is 00:59:55 That's what I was edging to. You pop a couple zins, you're locked in. And so basically there's a little bit of pressure being applied to Baldoni, it seems like. Everyone loves Blake's version of it. And this is actually important to note because later Blake will admit that it was actually not her that rewrote the rooftop scene
Starting point is 01:00:13 that it was Ryan Reynolds that rewrote the rooftop scene. To which Sony and the screenwriters are like, well we have to give Reynolds a credit on this, we're violating our SAG, like union obligations, this is like a huge nightmare, you can't say that. But she goes on and says it anyway. But regardless, in the moment she says, I rewrote it. He leaves and is basically like, okay, this is kinda wild.
Starting point is 01:00:32 That was on the 12th, all right? And then, in you go ahead. One second, isn't that so manipulative? She goes to the guys like, oh, no one ever takes me seriously when I offer suggestions. You're using that by saying, I rewrote this scene, meanwhile, it was your husband who rewrote the scene.
Starting point is 01:00:47 That's fucked up. Great point. So now she's playing into his identity of, I support women, I believe women, and we need to be better and not playing victim with no one ever takes me seriously. I work so hard, I'm such a creative person, you didn't even do nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:03 You didn't read the book, you didn't rewrite the scene. What the fuck did you do? It's a good tactic though. Like you know that this guy doesn't wanna tell a woman that's the producer of the movie and the lead that she can't have a say in it because it goes against his identity publicly. So you can manipulate him based on that.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It's a good idea. That man, it's not a nice thing to do. No, no, I'm not saying it's nice, but I can understand why she would go that way with it. Gotcha, okay. Right, because it'd be way harder if she was like, I'm the producer and this is what I'm gonna put. He'd be like, ah, no, I don't really wanna do that.
Starting point is 01:01:32 But if she goes, I'm a woman and I've been in this business forever and nobody ever takes me seriously and yada yada yada, now he has to be like, well, fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta say no kindly. I gotta say it's gonna be a blend. Blend, yeah. And I'm pretty sure it is at this point that he basically says something to the effect
Starting point is 01:01:47 of like, hey, I loved your revision, even without the cosign of Taylor and Ryan, like you didn't even need to really bring them in, like your work stands on its own. And I thought it was great. And then she, I believe at this point is when she sends the Khaleesi text that has now become famous, where she basically says, if you ever get around to watching Game of Thrones, you'll appreciate that I'm Khaleesi. And like her, I happen to have a few dragons, for better or for worse, but usually for better, because my dragons also protect those that I fight for.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So really, we all benefit from those gorgeous monsters of mine. You will, too. I can promise you. And I think she's talking about Taylor and Ryan Reynolds as her dragons. Now, the irony in this is that Khaleesi was pretty famous for, like, fucking the closest guy to her throughout the game of Thrones. So I don't know if you really want to say...
Starting point is 01:02:29 And dies at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she loses her fucking mind. Horrible metaphor. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And then I believe it's also around this point that he leaves her a voice note
Starting point is 01:02:37 after she's sort of like expressing like, yeah, I didn't really like the way you responded to my original sort of addendum to the script. You kind of brush me off. Baldoni feels bad about it. They have this whole intervention kind of with Taylor and everyone. And this is when I believe he leaves this voice note that has now become released to the public.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Oh yeah, I heard that. This is a whole seven minute thing. And just to give you a vibe, people also point to this to indicate how creepy Baldoni is that he's sort of like manipulating her, da da da da. Nah, the first few, just do the first few seconds. It is Two in the morning pause. You know take that sexy voice off, bro. Guilty. Yeah Don't start no fucking voice note to my wife with is two in the morning and thinking about you Stop. Nah, stop. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Pause again, why are you breathing loud? Voice note just get the information out. All right Ryan beating off FaceTime or see each other in person soon and get to talk more. But I'm just gonna send you a few thoughts and hopefully it's not gonna be more than a few minutes, but that I don't have the best track record.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I'm not a Minuteman. I'm not a Minuteman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy's flirting, bro. I didn't even pick up on that one. Yeah, he's got girl brain, bro, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, message, my heart sank. I'm really sorry. I for sure fell short. And you worked really hard on that and the way you framed it and. And how that made you feel, I just want to say thank you for sharing that with me.
Starting point is 01:04:43 He goes on to say, like, hey, I'm not a perfect person, I'm gonna do better going forward, and I'm so sorry for the pain it caused you, and I'm really excited to collaborate on this project further. Way sexier, though. Way, way sexier. Yeah. Slightly sexier than I did.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Don't leave my wife a voice note. Something like that, bro. If I'm his wife, I'm tight. Like, why are you sending other bitches' voice messages at two in the morning? Yeah, have we spoken to his wife yet? I don't know. She came out in support of him. out and supported her. She's come out in support of him, but she hasn't really been vocal in the whole saga. But she has obviously come out in support. She's a keeper. So that's kind of where things are at right now. So he records this voice note. When
Starting point is 01:05:19 does he start recording all the text and everything like that? Because that's a little bit fishy to me. That he's actually the first person that decides to record everything. So I think it comes up later that they're actually taking like metadata recordings where they're downloading all the like PDFs and everything. But I think they have all the text correspondence from their entire collaboration. According to Candice Owens,
Starting point is 01:05:36 at some point early in the filming when Blake Lively starts kicking up a fuss, that someone on Justin Baldoni's PR team, there's also like a PR thing that happens where like his original PR lady is like a real. Are we gonna get into that too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's like all crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:49 But at some point they say, hey, this movie's filming in New Jersey, y'all are all in New Jersey, you don't need her consent to record anything, just record all of it, keep track records of everything. They didn't go to New Jersey to do it or whatever, the movie's filming there, so it's like. But because they were there, they couldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Do this, just be safe. Got it, okay, so something happened filming there. So it's like. But because they were there, they could do this. Just be safe. Got it, okay, so something happened, and I wanna know what that point was where he felt that Blake and maybe Ryan did not have his best interests at heart, and he's like, I need to start collecting information that is potentially protective for me and incriminating to them.
Starting point is 01:06:21 You know what I think it was? Probably the day after this. I think he sends that voice note, I think he's probably talking to the director. Didn't they try to buy the script from him? I think that's coming around. That's what I thought. Oh, that's later? Basically, the voice note comes out and again, we're fast forwarding, but like people are
Starting point is 01:06:36 using this. This basically acts as like a mirage or like an optical illusion. Like if you think that this guy is a creep and a sexual harasser, then you hear this and you're like, obviously, if you assume he's just like a good well-intentioned feminist type dude You're like, yeah, he's being so nice. Everything he's saying is good. Yeah, but the way he's saying it The voice is creepy, but the words are the right and everything says he's like dude. I completely creepy. We're like dream He's saying I don't believe it don'tums. I've heard the rhetoric so much from people that I think are full of shit.
Starting point is 01:07:08 That was my initial issue with him. From what I've heard, he seems more sincere, but he does talk like that, which is like I think an actor way of talking. There's an LA thing throughout all the texts. If you read all the correspondence, the way that all of them talk to each other is sort of insufferable.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Actors are insufferable people, and they think all their words carry such a weight and they talk as if everything is a Shakespearean novel. I would give the earth to work with you again and the moon and the stars. We're destined to make this project. There's no disagreements, by the way, when you're just sitting on set. Everybody's just talking about the thing, complaining about the same thing and agreeing and then moving on.
Starting point is 01:07:41 All being fake nice. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It is the most boring. That most horrible. It's awful. It is. It's like the antithesis of a podcast where we just sit here and disagree with each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Oh, yeah. But the difference is that we actually like each other and then we argue in front of people. Whereas these people don't really like each other and they're all so nice. Nice to each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 01:07:57 So the next phase that happens escalates things crazy. So that happened on April 14th, 2023. April 22nd, like a week later, Baldoni goes, in the movie, in the script, in the original script, there's a scene where his character lifts up her character, like picks her up. And Baldoni has a bad back. He's had many back surgeries.
Starting point is 01:08:20 He has like a bulging disc in his back. He got that Luigi. Yeah, he's just been blowing out, or he's got his back blown out. And it's like a bulging disc in his back. He got that Luigi. Yeah, he's just been blowing out, or he's got his back blown out. And it's like a whole thing, right? So he goes to personal trainer. He got his back blown out? I don't know. What did you mean by that?
Starting point is 01:08:32 I don't know if actually he's got his back blown out. Because you've been saying the facts for the last like 20 minutes perfectly, and then you just said something like that about Valdoni. What do you mean? So what did you mean when you said that? No, I meant he was blowing out backs. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:43 You get a back from putting too much work in. Putting too much work in. from putting too much work in. Yeah. Which is, that's a red flag. That is. You have such a good back. Yeah. Strongest back. The only good part of it. Okay, nice. And basically he goes to the personal trainer and says something to the effect of, hey, I want to avoid injury. So how much would you estimate Blake Lively weighs? Ballpark. Just as a fruit, as a collection of fruits. If you had to guess, it's like 10 watermelons. What are we talking about? He goes to the guy and says, how much does she weigh? And it's not really stated what the personal trainer responds with. But basically this comment gets back to Blake Lively. And she's pissed and offended and thinks that it's completely inappropriate to be asking about
Starting point is 01:09:30 the actress's weight as like the director or as an actor. Which again, he's playing both. So there's- If you gotta ask, you can't lift her. Right? He doesn't wanna be embarrassed. What if she, you know. No, I'm just saying like, if you have to ask,
Starting point is 01:09:43 it's cause you're concerned. Yeah, yeah. And if then you gotta change it, I'm just saying like if you have to ask it's cuz you're concerned Yeah, and if then you got to change that you got to rewrite it Yeah, so that it becomes a problem. Okay, and that happens on April 22nd. Yeah now How much how much you think she weighed cuz she's not small right? Like she was a model at one point tall She looked tall. How tall is she? I don't know how tall she is at one point. Tall lady. She looked tall. How tall is she? I don't know how tall she is. Five, nine, five, ten probably. So she's probably around like a buck fifty. She's as tall as Albert tends to be probably. So she's what? Like a buck fifty. So he's got a deadlift of buck fifty with a bad back. Damn. What? Is that? How you put 150 on her? Is that a lot? She's 5'10". Yeah, I feel like that's a good amount of shit. Yeah, but they don't eat.
Starting point is 01:10:28 She's probably like 120. No chance she's 5'10". 120 at 5'10". That's crazy. No, no, no, no, no. No? Well, I don't know bitches. So again, this is like some spectrum thing where it's like, okay, you're asking,
Starting point is 01:10:39 you wanna do the right thing, you have a bad back, you wanna make sure you can do the scene properly, and also you don't wanna make her feel bad if she goes to lift her and then his back is fucked up and he's like, oh, it's not you, it's me. He's really treating her as an equal and she's like, treat me as a woman. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:10:52 Like, treat me as a woman in Hollywood. Don't treat me as an actor, treat me as a woman who is concerned about my weight because I just had a baby, I put on some weight, I'm working out every single day. Now you're going to my trainer like, yo, she got the weight down yet? Because I gotta lift this fucking chick.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And you're concerned. I think you gotta just lift her or put her on an Apple box. What do they do with Tom Holland? Whatever they do with Tom Holland, just do that with- Back brace or something. Yeah. There's gotta be a way. What do they do to make the cameras not move?
Starting point is 01:11:19 Gimble. Gimble. What if you did that? What if you just attached her? A harness? You could do like Wicked and make her fly to fly gravity. There's got to be a way. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:32 So apparently I think they ended up working and rehearsing with like a body double while they're like trying to get the scene worked out. And then three days later, according again, this is to Baldoni's sort of online testimony of like evidence he's putting out that he's summoned to Lively's penthouse in New York where he's greeted by Reynolds who swore at Baldoni, accused him of fat shaming, quote, how dare you fucking ask about my wife's weight? What is wrong with you? The tone from Reynolds and Lively was so aggressive that Baldoni felt he had no choice, but again,
Starting point is 01:11:59 to offer repeated apologies and for what was a good faith reasonable question to the trainer, not Lively, and demanded that Belladonna, Reynolds demanded that they remove the lift scene completely. Now, later, Lively claims that the lift scene was never in the movie. It's not in the movie currently. I'm pretty sure it's in the book,
Starting point is 01:12:17 so it'd be in the movie. But they said that it was never even in the script. There is versions of the script that have it in there. They say it was removed in the edit. Again, yada, yada, yada. So that is, I think, where things really kind of start to turn, okay? And I think that is when they started recording everything.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Yeah. After this argument. Yeah. Now he's like, now he's concerned that they could paint him in a certain way. You could use sexism against him. And that is his brand. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:44 It's like, I'm a male feminist, I love women. And then I'm fat shaming women on my side. And Ryan Reynolds is much more powerful than me. Taylor Swift, much more powerful than me. And her whole thing is taking down men. All she has to tweet out is, yo, this director was super creepy. He was like, ask me how much I weighed.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah. Now it's worth noting that at this point, Lively had already expressed concern over her body. She's already told him, like, hey, I wanna be like in shape, I really treat this thing seriously. That's how I know this bitch got fat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:11 She had a baby. She had a baby, I'll tell you. Yeah, she should. She shouldn't be skinny after having a baby. Exactly, yes. But if I'm a lifter, I need to know what she weighs. But she's already expressed, hey, I feel sort of insecure with my figure,
Starting point is 01:13:20 and he assures her over and over, don't worry, we're gonna make you look amazing, don't even worry about this, this should be the last thing in your mind, you're a great mom, don't even worry about it. I think he says shit like your body's beautiful or something like that. And he says like, yeah, you're great,
Starting point is 01:13:29 like don't even worry, I don't know if he says specifically beautiful, he might have. But basically he's assuring her it's fine, and then later is asking about her weight to the personal trainer. Some people see that as an infringement in some towel. How important is this lifting in the air scene?
Starting point is 01:13:41 It's not like dirty dancing, right? It's like that, right? Like, you know. Maybe had that type of significance. Ah. Maybe. Never read the book, I can't say. You read the book, Akash?
Starting point is 01:13:50 No, but my wife did and- By osmosis. Yeah. You read the book. Yeah, and I think it's like the idea of him is like he's very masculine, protective, made her feel protected probably before everything, and like that's part of the whole, like,
Starting point is 01:14:02 this guy's just like, this hot masculine doctor. He believes it adds to the story that he's a strong powerful guy And that's the way that he subverts her in order to abuse her later So he thinks it's integral to the story that shows that he's dominant over her he's able to move her around got it So why the train of snitch though? Broke over not even yeah, I mean yeah, I guess it should be but at the same time It's like you'll just say anything to curry favor to the I guess it should be, but at the same time, it's like, you'll just say anything to curry favor to the people that are paying him. In this same meeting, Lively tells Baldoni that if he can't get on board with how she
Starting point is 01:14:33 works, she has, quote, two weeks to recast her. He knows it's impossible to recast her at this point. They're already in pre-production, wardrobe's already getting bought, and he's like, I'll work with however you want to work. You got it. Now this kinda tips the scales, pun intended, towards the side of her gaining more power over the whole production. And then the wardrobe thing becomes another big issue.
Starting point is 01:14:56 So basically, the first day of principal photography, they capture her wardrobe. Apparently she's doing all of her own wardrobe. She's dressing herself. They already spent all this money. And there's like a whole issue with the money. The money thing is crazy like they have a budget allocated like half a million dollars or something like that. She's spent like six hundred fifty thousand. Again some people say that's completely normal and that they should
Starting point is 01:15:16 return stuff and shrink down the budget later. Other people saying that she's being gratuitous with the spending and is not worried about the budget that's getting put up. But again this becomes another point of contention where they're talking to her about the wardrobe stuff. Also, when the pictures leak of the wardrobe, everyone hates it. All the fans of the book are like, this is not what the girl looks like in the book.
Starting point is 01:15:33 She's also wearing like two pairs of pants and shit like that. And it's like, who the fuck dresses like this? So like, this is an actual message that they even put in the group chat to discuss her wardrobe. And they're like, this is not how she looks. And this is from two years ago and all the They're like, this is not how she looks. And this is from two years ago.
Starting point is 01:15:45 And all the comments are like, this is atrocious. That's six hundred dollars. Some as a thrift shop in fucking Williamsburg right there. Yeah. So that's adding to everything, right? So she didn't read the book, so she doesn't know how to character dresses. Yeah. So this is now getting black backlash. Sony's talking about it. Everyone's like now concerned with the casting and the wardrobe.
Starting point is 01:16:07 It's just causing problems on the set. And then basically right around this time, there's the writer's strike. And so the writer's guild is basically on strike, and now there's picketing going on at all the production days. And then on May 29th, right before they stopped filming officially, Wayfair was made aware that LiveLeap had placed calls to Sony to share grievances. So here are a couple grievances. One, Baldoni made a comment about her looking sexy on set in regards to her wardrobe that the character Lily was wearing. Apparently
Starting point is 01:16:39 she was also shown pornography is how it was sort of described in the press, but then in this complaint to Sony that she was shown a birth video. And then lastly, she shared that one of the assistant directors wanted to replace her, like get her out of there. So Baldoni has responses to all of these grievances. Do you wanna hear those,
Starting point is 01:16:58 or this is just where it's at right now? Baldoni says that like the birth video thing was like a non-issue, like there's a birth scene, and they asked her, like, hey, do you want to see a picture of one of the other producers' home birth? And she was like, oh, let me finish eating.
Starting point is 01:17:10 And he had it on his phone, but never showed her. And it was completely consensual. It was not pornography. It was just video of birth. The sexy comment came because Blake Lively was talking about how she wants the character to be sexy. She says it throughout the text. She's like, I want the character to be sexy.
Starting point is 01:17:24 I want the character to be sexy. And then he goes, you look sexy. like, I want the character to be sexy, I want the character to be sexy. And then he goes, you look sexy. And then in one of the scenes, she's wearing like a onesie with a coat on. And he goes, oh, take the coat off, because like it'll make the character like more sexy. Okay. She interprets that as like, what the fuck is this guy doing? He's like leaving me voicemails. He's like, this is like, he's such a creep.
Starting point is 01:17:39 And now he's telling me I should be sexy, da-da-da-da. Yeah. And then the directors, the ADs that are asking to replace her, the ADs end up getting removed. And Baldoni's like, yeah, they were causing trouble on the set, they wanted to recast lively, I said, you guys gotta go. And so that's where things stand,
Starting point is 01:17:55 and then on the 14th, they go on strike. And so production stops. And then it's in this whole time that, again, power starts to shift. All right guys, stay bright for a second. This podcast has been brought to you by Squarespace. If you're looking to build a website, you need to look into Squarespace, man.
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Starting point is 01:20:59 So even more stuff than now she's flagging to everyone. Sony, everyone involved. And the non-negotiables are everything from the stuff we read before, but they're more egregious. I can go through them one by one. But basically, he's basically saying, these are, we're not gonna-
Starting point is 01:21:13 I'm not coming back to film unless y'all give me these things. And so we need an all-hands meeting. I need access to the dailies. I need access to script revisions. I need people to not be walking into my trailer while I'm breastfeeding, because you guys walked in
Starting point is 01:21:23 and you were trying to see me breastfeeding, which later she says in text, I know you weren't trying to cop a look, but it made me uncomfortable. I think she actually invited him. She said I'm breastfeeding coming in. Exactly. He released that text. Precisely.
Starting point is 01:21:34 He releases that to show it wasn't really a problem, that there was one time where multiple people walked in, and then they kind of turned away, and it wasn't really an issue. Again, he said, she said. What I'm seeing on the internet is a lot of accusations from her and then him delivering as the internet says receipts. Yes. Right. And I think that, and then Candace organized all this stuff brilliantly. Yeah. Uh,
Starting point is 01:21:56 shout out Candace Owens, the most feared person on the internet. Once again, Candace, if we mentioned on this podcast, we want no problem. No problem. we mentioned on this podcast, we want no problems. We want no problems. I call her Deebo. Deebo, we want no problems with Deebo. Candice is coming. Candice is coming, we want no problems, okay?
Starting point is 01:22:12 We think you're doing amazing work with this Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively situation, okay? Maybe this is some great work with what's happening with politics in France. Outside of that, we're not speaking on it, and we want no problems, okay? Okay, we got our white Candace right here. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:29 And he's gonna go. Yes, I'm a man. Jesus is a kiss. Yeah, exactly. Tell us what's going on. So basically the shooting resumes in January. Who's the president of France married to, Mark? Not his dad.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Okay, just making sure. A woman. A woman, right? I don't even know how, Candace is on that ass. Bro, I know a little bit about it. You don't know how wild it got. woman, right? I don't even know how, Candice is on that ass. Bro, I know a little bit about it. You don't know how wild it got. Oh, really? Candice said that not only was Macron's wife a man,
Starting point is 01:22:52 she's now alleging that Macron's wife is actually Macron's dad. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. You know.
Starting point is 01:23:03 I believe you. Some people may. Hey, we believe you over Some people think. Hey, we believe you over here, Kavis. Just keep that energy open. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about them. Talk about them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Everything's bad over there. Anyway, go on. So she's got all these demands. They kind of capitulate against the advice of some of the other producers. They're like, yo, stop giving her all this power. And so she's just gaining more and more power. I want addendums to the script, dah, dah, dah, dah. And give me the drama... Give me the drama.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Give me the gossip. Okay. Give me the Perez Hilton. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. I gotta pull up one more thing. So this is when things... Let the hair down. You might get a little...
Starting point is 01:23:33 Get your Baldoni on. Uh oh. This is where things go a little wild. January 4th, Baldoni, another one of the executives from Wayfair, a Sony executive, and an A-list producer that was brought in by Lively and Reynolds meet at her apartment. Another one of the executives from Wayfair, a Sony executive and an A-list producer that was brought in by Lively and Reynolds meet at her apartment. It was January 4th.
Starting point is 01:23:49 As the team prepared, the production binders on, they have the production binders on hand, and basically Reynolds then starts berating Baldoni, demanding that he apologize to Lively for the actions that either had never occurred or had been grossly mischaracterized. Baldoni resists apologizing for things he had not done, which further enraged Reynolds. Again, this comes from Baldoni's testimony here on his website. Everyone, including the new producer,
Starting point is 01:24:12 that lively have requested to join the production and the Sony executives. They quote that they had never seen anything like this happen in their productions or have never seen an executive or director spoken to in such a manner during a meeting. Later the Sony representative shared that they often reflected on the meeting regretted not intervening to stop Reynolds tirade against Baldoni. So Reynolds is involved. Yeah. He's talking that shit. And tensions are rising. So everyone's pissed off. They somehow complete the filming and then it's basically in the aftermath of the edit that everything just gets fucked.
Starting point is 01:24:46 So they're now fighting over the final cut of the film. And they're doing pre-promo, where they're filming all this stuff before the trailer's announced. Baldoni's not involved in any of it. So they hire Reynolds Company to do a lot of the production stuff. So now it's the whole cast, it's Blake Lively,
Starting point is 01:25:01 it's everyone else in the movie, it's the book writer, the author, and Baldoni's not involved in any of it, which is very strange that the director and the other co-lead is not involved in the film. So film gets released and then they're basically like, okay, who's going to do the final edit? Baldoni has his version, but then Blake Lively has gained so much power over the production and she's like, I want to do an edit. And then she slowly creeps in.
Starting point is 01:25:22 She's like, I just want to sit with you while you edit it. And then she goes, actually, I want to work on it alone with my own editor and the producers like don't do it Don't do it Baldo. He capitulates. He's like, okay fine. You can do your version. I'll do my version Let's test both of them and then whichever one gets a higher thing that was Sony's solution Don't use those better. It doesn't matter. They go with blakes Precisely and Blake I think use some like Taylor leverage with a song or something So she's now saying like oh, we're gonna have going to have Taylor in, we're going to have Taylor's song on the thing, but she only wants to be in my edit.
Starting point is 01:25:50 And it's like a whole back and forth. Apparently, she's adding stuff in from Baldoni's edit, but claiming that it's still her edit. It's like a fucking- They don't let Baldoni's side see the edit at all. It's a shit show. So now they do a bunch of press with Adam. This comes out, the movie's released, crushes. Movie crushes.
Starting point is 01:26:07 They made it for 25 million, they made it for 350 million dollars. But people were annoyed before we found out any of this, at just like how she was marketing the film, where they're doing like funny ads, they're doing funny ads where like Ryan Reynolds is jealous of her love interest in the movie, and like talking about his ass and how nice it is, so it's like if you're doing... They're treating you like a rom-com. Yeah. And it's not a rom-com at all.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And it's like it's a domestic violence movie and Blake Lively is promoting a hair care line and making a big point to wear like florals and talk about the fashion. And Ryan, I mean, Justin Baldoni, it seems when he talks about the movie seems to be about abuse like why do men do this? This is what the point of the movie is, etc. Yeah. I mean, do you think now he has a better understanding of why men be women? Do you think going through this process? He's just like I get it actually.
Starting point is 01:26:55 I didn't understand it before but now after knowing the Dragon Lady It's called it starts with us It starts with you. So, this is one of the press things that happen that sets people off. And they're like, dude, this is a book about domestic violence. Is this how you respond? Let's jump into this. And Blake, I'm going to start with you.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Most of us, if we're lucky enough to run into a celebrity in public, we only have a few moments to maybe speak with you guys. But for people who see this movie, who relate to the topics of this movie on a deeply personal level They're really gonna want to talk to you. This movie is gonna affect people and they're gonna want to tell you about their lives so if someone Understands the themes of this movie comes across you in public How would you recommend they go about it like my address or my phone number or like my location share. I could just location share you and then we could. Social Security number.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I'm a Virgo. I'm like, are we talking logistics? Are we talking emotionally? So people point to that and be like, I mean, he asked you a pretty genuine question. How should people talk about domestic violence? And then she makes a joke about it ostensibly is how people perceive this. And they call him this the J-Lo era? That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I remember, again, my wife was into this. She liked the book. She was talking about this shit too. She's like, it's weird, how's it being promoted? She didn't like the movie. She walked out being like, we don't need to see it again. And my wife will re-watch anything she likes at all. She saw Wicked twice, Wicked came out,
Starting point is 01:28:22 wanted to watch it a third time. This, she was like, we're good, you don't need to watch it. Another short excerpt that adds to the fire. This with us is in theaters now, so grab your friends, wear your florals, and head out to see it. And people are like, why are you talking about like grabbing your friends and wearing florals, da da da, like this seems inappropriate. Now to Blake's defense, she's like, this is supposed to be a movie about triumph, about overcoming domestic violence, I don't want this to be painting women as victims again. I also think once you create a narrative, she's got what, 20 years in the business?
Starting point is 01:28:48 It's so easy to do that with us. We talk two hours a fucking week on a podcast. If you wanna paint us in one way, you can grab a 30 second clip and make us look bad. So I think you can do that with her. I don't think they're looking through every interview that she's done to show how seriously she takes film. No, yeah, I just remember before any Baldoni stuff
Starting point is 01:29:04 came out, people were like, what is she doing? Why is she promoting a hair care line? What's going on? That narrative existed before. Yeah, yeah. I just feel like once the internet decides that they don't like something, they just search for proof and then execute.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Now, she could've, this could be justified. She could've been a huge bitch in this production and try to take it with them and use Reynolds' power and money and thinking that like, Baldoni doesn't have that same support, which it seems like he does from Wayfarer or whatever. So maybe they thought that they could just take the movie, get the rights, make 300 million on this one, do the prequel or the sequel, whatever it is, make another 600 million on that one, now they got the next billion dollar Twilight franchise.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Yeah, they probably thought they could do it. And maybe she didn't like the guy so they're like, you know what, fuck this guy. He's kind of a dick. I don't care if we destroy his character, if we can get this billion-dollar franchise. That's possible. And to contribute to it, right around this time, a different journalist released another interview
Starting point is 01:29:55 where Blake Lively is shown to be a, quote, mean girl. And this is the one that went super viral. Again, this is associated with a different film. This is Cafe Society. And this woman releases this sort of unannounced, unprovoked, she just puts it out there, the Blake Lively interview that made me want to quit interviewing forever.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Congrats on your little bump. Congrats on your little bump. What about my bump? She's trying to save it. You've got two nice ones. And these, they are kind of bumps, aren't they? No, not bumps. Who's the girl with her?
Starting point is 01:30:28 I don't know her name. Dawn Girl, I forget her name. I don't know, but like I've been that person. Yeah, where you just try to be like, oh, this is awkward. Like, yeah, somebody says something mean and you're like, I just need to cover the dead air. Like, that's what that was. Yeah, no, 100%.
Starting point is 01:30:41 And so they kind of salvage it. In this film specifically, this is not obviously, it ends with us, she asked about the wardrobe, which is apparently super important to the movie. Did you guys love wearing those kind of clothes that you? Yeah. Yeah. And you know, working in digital.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Everyone wants to talk about the clothes, but I wonder if they would ask the men about the clothes. Oh God. I love Jesse's suits and how he. He has some beautiful, that's what I'm saying. His wardrobe is beautiful. I know, Corey's wardrobe. She's not looking at the girl in that sweater either. Corey's those high waisted pants. He's so cute. Jesse's Saying his his wardrobe is beautiful
Starting point is 01:31:08 I Sorry, I know Father with his with his tank top seems like they had beef before this shit Yeah, like something seems off they go on to talk for like two or three minutes like did they have beef with the interviewer? Yeah, not disclosed. It's possible. I'm saying like, did the interviewer review one of her movies five years ago and said she's horrible and she looks like shit?
Starting point is 01:31:31 She's been on the list. Now it's like, oh. I think a lot of times, like, you assume that celebrities don't look at what people say about them. Oh. They look at all of that. These messages will prove that they're looking at everything.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Everything. They're posting random girls' TikToks. Like, did you see what this girl said? Yep. She's saying this about this. Yeah. Like some girls like a thousand likes on a TikTok. Do you remember the first celeb that responded to you on Twitter when Twitter first came out? Yeah. Who was it? Pusha T. Pusha T. Do you remember? I wasn't on Twitter early. Like I got that late. Michael K. Williams from The Wire. Oh, fuck what's his name? The Wire? Omar. Omar. In that his name? I think it's The Wire.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Omar. Omar, Omar. In that moment, because I just tweeted something, I was like, oh, we need the prequel to The Wire, The Omar Years, and then he responded like, that's a great idea. And then that moment, I was like, holy shit,
Starting point is 01:32:15 I'm having a conversation with like a famous, this is insane, but there's another part of them that's going, holy shit, they read everything. They read everything about themselves. So yeah, she's, if we know that they read everything. They read everything about themselves. So yeah, she's, if we know that they read everything, she's looked at, oh God, they're probably melting right now. And then the New York Times drops the article saying that Baldoni orchestrated a smear campaign to quote, bury Blake Lively. The New York Times article is bad. It doesn't look good
Starting point is 01:32:41 for Baldoni at all. And there's pretty crazy lines in here. It says, Baldoni wants to make sure that we can bury Blake Lively. Apparently, Baldoni's PR says, you know that we can bury anyone. And then there's other messages that are in there where they show an article that shows him in the Daily Mail that's slandering Blake Lively's character. And the PR people are talking to each other,
Starting point is 01:33:00 Baldoni's people, and they're saying, hey, you did a great job with this one. And then they're responding saying, that's why you hired me, I'm the best in the biz. And this is all put into the New York Times article and everyone's like, oh, they hired a complete PR machine to destroy Blake Lovett's career, this looks crazy. And if he's not guilty, why is he hiring a whole PR team
Starting point is 01:33:18 to try to protect his character? Now, he's come out with all these receipts saying that these texts were completely taken out of context. That like for example with the that one situation where she's saying, wow you did a great job with this. They're all responding that there is a natural narrative against Blake Lively that's brewing and that they're just monitoring it. And so they're just seeing what the narrative is so that he can put out a press release to assess what the sentiment online is. And so that's what they're claiming that they're doing.
Starting point is 01:33:46 So when they see this article that's slandering Blake Lively, she goes sarcastically, hey, you did a good job with this one. I don't know how we're getting so lucky with this, but you killed it with this one. And she goes, yeah, that's why you hired me. And puts emojis in there that show that's sarcastic. So Blake Lively is like Drake. You could say. White woman? No, like there's a successful PR campaign
Starting point is 01:34:08 that is waged against him. And she's basically like, it's gotta be bots. It's gotta be orchestrated. There's no way that people really feel this way about me. This has gotta be orchestrated by some higher power. Yeah, PR campaigns. Probably just organic. Maybe that's how the people feel.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Maybe people, given this information, are reacting according to how we all would act, right? Yeah, and so again, if you read the New York Times article, you'll be like, oh, this Baldoni guy's fucking crazy. Like, there's notes in there where like, his PR people are like, this is gonna be completely untraceable. The Times allege that Miss Nathan, Bald Baldoni's PR person floated proposals to hire
Starting point is 01:34:48 contractors to dominate social media through quote full social account takedowns by starting threads of theories and generally working to change the narrative all of this is untraceable what women do we believe like which version of Blake do we believe because I believe Blake that's why I'm on Justin's side. I believe that woman when she says, yo, come in, it's fine, I'm just pumping, it's totally cool. I believed her when she said that. I don't believe her after the fact
Starting point is 01:35:14 when she's trying to get the rights to the movie. And so I'm, you know. I believed when she said, I got dragons. Exactly, I believe that when she's threatening Justin Baldoni and using the Me Too movement against him. I believe that. Now this is all from Baldoni that's being released. So you're believing just his side.
Starting point is 01:35:30 No, I'm believing the text. She has heard it. I believe what she says. No words. That's true. She has not released counter text messages either. So you're saying we got to stop believing all women. I mean, right when we were believing them.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Finally. Oh boy, you were. I was pretending. Believe some, believe some. I think that's a fair position. Believe the last thing a woman says. I think that's what the movement really needs to become. Okay, believe the last thing a woman says.
Starting point is 01:35:55 So now Baldoni countersues the New York Times, or rather just sues New York Times for 250 million. Blake Lively now officially sues, after that, Justin Baldoni for sexual harassment. Civilly or criminally? I believe criminally and it's gonna be taken to the New York Federal Court. Oh, they don't want that.
Starting point is 01:36:12 I don't know, I'll tell you. They gotta drop this. I mean, they gotta drop this, just lick their wounds, put it under Deadpool. Baldoni countersues Blake Lively and Reynolds for 400 million for defamation and libel and assassination of character and all that shit trying to destroy his reputation and Then then they release imagine Ryan Reynolds loses all of his mint mobile money
Starting point is 01:36:33 Because Justin Baldoni couldn't lift up his wife Imagine they got to sell the house they got to sell the apartment Tribeca, and when you're explaining to the four kids, it's like, well yeah, your mom put on a few pounds after the last pregnancy, and this guy has a back injury, he couldn't lift her up, and your mom went fucking batshit crazy. So. I mean, dude, that's what this really comes down to, right?
Starting point is 01:36:59 Yeah, I was at a private school in Tribeca, or a public school in fucking midtown Eastern. Aw, dude. So now people are saying like, oh this is, they're calling it DARVO. This is what sexual abusers will use. They say deny, attack, reverse, victim, offender. Oh boy. So this is what Baldoni is doing allegedly. Is that he's the aggressor but now he's flipping it and reversing it using this tactic called DARVO.
Starting point is 01:37:20 It's her fault. Is that now he's the victim and that she's the aggressor. Yeah, yeah. And no one knows what to believe. She says in her criminal complaint, which again, there's a whole bunch of fucking bureaucracy with this, but she says in the criminal complaint that during one of the scenes
Starting point is 01:37:34 where they're slow dancing, there's no audio, he's like caressing her, he's like touching her lips, he's trying to kiss her, she feels uncomfortable, she doesn't want it to happen. Then they drop the clip. And then they drop the clip with audio, which no one knew at that time, at least, that there was audio. We can watch some of it. Again, this is another like, like cultural mirage, where depending on what you believe, it's what you see. Nah, I don't think there's any mirage here, my man.
Starting point is 01:37:56 You keep giving these hoes too much credit, Mark. I'm not with this. It's a sexist podcast. He got his Baldoni bun on, son. He knows what time it is. She got to be six feet tall, bro. There's no way. Yeah, I don't know, bro. I got to see that in the script, man. I got to...
Starting point is 01:38:13 I don't like all that improv. Like, if I'm Ryan Reynolds, I don't think I'm into that. And so she's suggesting, hey, we should be talking. We should be talking right now. And he's like, oh, I think it's more romantic if we just look at each other. Almost kissing is also good. And she agrees.
Starting point is 01:38:30 And she says, but we're still talking. I mean, it's a movie where people fall in love. Yeah. If you're Ryan Reynolds, do you not think this is gonna happen? But at this point, I'm pretty sure they hate each other. Yes. Oh, that's what the allegations are.
Starting point is 01:38:43 They hate each other? At this point in the film, I don't know the exact date that this scene happens. I'm gonna lower the audios. She's a good actor. I mean, I believe it. Yeah. Alright, so where are we? They come out with this and say this is proof that no sexual misconduct occurred.
Starting point is 01:38:59 That everything's being talked about, multiple people are there. There is no intimacy coordinator. Which they say Lively turned down. Lively said, I didn't turn it down, I just didn't need it for this scene, because in the script, there's no intimacy. It's just us dancing. Lively's team says this is absolute proof that this guy was being sexually inappropriate on set, that he was abusing his power as the director and the producer to have a sexual moment with the lead that he's also the co-lead with.
Starting point is 01:39:26 And then, that's basically where where it stands and people are like, hey, what does it mean? He puts out the voice recording at this point where people are like, see, this is more proof. Then there's a trial date that's set. All right. So now we can have fun with this? Yeah. That was a lot. That was a lot.
Starting point is 01:39:40 I can't believe you actually did all that research. I'm very impressed. That was amazing. That was a lot. I can't believe you actually did all that research. I'm gonna be honest. I'm very impressed. That was amazing. That was amazing. Let's cut 80% of that. Yeah, we're gonna cut 80%. Why didn't you tell me what we're doing? We're gonna trim a little bit.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Just make sure I don't look guilty. You did the right thing. You did the right thing. You did the right thing. You did great. You were fantastic. Can I have a sip? No, you need another one of these.
Starting point is 01:39:59 You need to keep moving. Okay, wow, that was a lot. And you know what? You did it in a way that was so diplomatic. I'm like, you know, like you kind of made arguments from both sides and everything. It was like really, it was more Candace winning and just pick a side and tell the story from that point of view. Who's really a man? This is why Candace wins. Her attention throughout that story is going to the roof. And ours is like, oh, but it's so gray.
Starting point is 01:40:27 No, we don't want gray. I need the strong, bold colors. Yeah, I don't know. Now I actually, oh man. I know. All right, tell us, tell us Akash, go. Hey, the second a white woman in Hollywood is talking about sexual harassment, I'm skeptical.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Oh my God. Okay, okay, keep going, keep going. What, just because they subscribed to the New Yorker, I gotta pretend I believe these hoes? I don't, I don't, I don't trust them. Tell us, tell us, tell us. Well, none of this seems like it's a fucking movie where they fall in love and you expect us
Starting point is 01:40:59 to have a platonic dancing scene? Yes. Are we doing a movie or not? You're an actress, you would be uncomfortable with your wife doing it. She's not an actress. You don't, she's not signing up for that. You'd be like, what the fuck are you hugging this guy for? If your wife is an actress, the day you meet,
Starting point is 01:41:13 you met her on a fucking movie, Ryan Reynolds. What do you think she was doing? That's why to me, if there's a love scene. I feel uncomfortable with the daddy daughter dancing my wedding. I'm dead. I said, back it up. daughter dance to my wedding. I'm dead! I said, back it up!
Starting point is 01:41:30 Back it up, doctor! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, it's gotta be a chicken dance or something. Yeah, we can tune all this. It can't be a cute song. What's going on here? Just in general, I think if you've grown up around actual abuse and you see
Starting point is 01:41:40 people calling certain shit abuse, you're like, what are you fucking talking about? If you know actual sexual assault victims and then they start saying, oh, this is sexual assault, it's very obvious because he mentions his wife a minute in, first of all, like whatever, it's so obvious what's happening.
Starting point is 01:41:55 No, it's not. This is not sexual assault and painting this as sexual assault is insane to me. So they're like all abuse matters and you're like, just yours. Correct. You're just yours matters. Just saying it. just yours? Correct! You're like just yours. Just saying it.
Starting point is 01:42:06 I was uncomfortable ain't abuse. You were uncomfortable. Bitch! If you read my fucking book you would know they fuck. I heard two fucking, I heard 20 minutes of an audiobook. They fucked in those 20 minutes. What did you think was gonna happen? Were you not gonna be uncomfortable with that?
Starting point is 01:42:22 Maybe you should have had an inter-music coordinator the whole fucking time. It's insane to me that we let these people go on with this fucking narrative and we're like, oh my god, see? He's sniffing her. Of course, bitch, you're gonna be cheek to cheek. It's a dance where you fall in love. What do you think this is supposed to be? I'm not dancing like that. I'm not doing this movie. I'm not handsome enough to be a lead in anything. You're right. 1000%! Al got me, dog handsome enough to be a lead in anything. You're right. 1000%!
Starting point is 01:42:45 Al got me, dog! Al keeps it afuck with me! People also point out, like, why would he, this guy that has a Hollywood career, sexually harass a woman who comes from, like, a legacy family that's not, like, young in the scene, she's not, like, a fringe character, she's the co-lead and a producer, and he's... And according to him, she's fat! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It can't be both! Yeah, yeah. It can't be both.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Yeah, but no, it can't be. If you gotta go to your trainer like, yo, how much, bro? It's not sexual, it could be harassment. That is another thing that, have we spoken about that? Like, it could be harassment, but adding sexual, you don't know my intentions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:43:21 Like, if you just were like, hey, I felt harassed by you talking about my weight, that's fine. But you're assuming I want to fuck you, which is arrogant. I'm Justin Baldo. I think one of the techs he put out, he's like, I'm not even attracted to you. Like he's told it straight out. That is, that is, what is it called? That is a little bit of, what is it?
Starting point is 01:43:39 Presumptuous. That is presumptuous of you to assume sexual harassment. Now does sexual harassment mean how you feel? Like, do you feel sexualized and then it just means sexual harassment? Yeah, like if you comment about my feet, that's sexual harassment. But I mean that way.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Okay. Yeah. If I'm talking about your feet, I mean that. You made Arthur uncomfortable earlier. Arthur? Arthur is crazy. Arthur? Archer.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Archer, see? Oh my God. He's been here for a year. It's close enough. He's been here for a year. But you? Oh my God. He's been here for a year. It's close enough. But you guys know my heart. He's been here for a year. Hey Arthur, get your arm. I'm gonna lift your arm.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Give me your arm, yo. So, give me your arm right now. Give me your arm right now. You can lift Archer. Ben Ma's gonna have to blur it out and stuff. He's been saving my eyes, I realize, appreciate that. People also point out that in this scene, she makes comments about his nose,
Starting point is 01:44:24 which he's publicly talked about being insecure about., and she's like yeah, don't be too Like at a certain level of good-looking you're not allowed to talk about your yeah Like you could be insecure, but you don't want to complain about them Yeah, like if you're the guys fucking handsome, and you got a big nose, which is awesome and girls loving Things so fucking hot and it gets them so wet. They say that. They really do. You're just missing all the other stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:47 That's why she had to wear two pairs of pants. Because that big nose, though. One pair is gonna soak it up immediately, right? So you need that second pair just in case. That's sexual harassment. Noses are very sexual. Noses are. I mean, the greatest men in history have huge noses.
Starting point is 01:44:59 That's true. You know that for a fact. I know it. Did you know why Hitler made his mustache so small? Make his nose look big. Make his nose look big. That is true. Why did he hate Jews?
Starting point is 01:45:08 Why? Because why? He was ashamed of how small his nose was. You're saying Jews have big noses. I just want to point that out. That was such a pussy-wit. You should have stood on it. You should have stood on it.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Don't got that shit. Take your heart back. Take your heart back from him. Then you go here. You go there. You go there. Take it back. You your heart back from him. Then you go, you go, you go. You go, you go, you go. Take it back from him. You know, it might be just the first time a guy hadn't been into her in a long time.
Starting point is 01:45:30 She's also insecure about that. This is a beautiful girl. He's like one of the most beautiful women. Yeah. Like widely acknowledged. And then this, this hot guy, you had your fourth kid, you're probably a little insecure. And then this hot guy is like, I'm not into you. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:45:42 I'm very much in love with my wife. Who the fuck are you? That might have driven her crazy. And she's reading online all,'s reading online all everybody saying you're too old to play this part How old is the girl supposed to be in the movie I don't know in the 20s I think 20s I believe mid young to mid 20s. Yeah, I did something that happens when you're in your 30s Like you think you look 20 still. I still think I fit in the club. That's the deal. It was great.
Starting point is 01:46:08 And then I just hide in the court. I'm like damn, I'm not going to get in. You'll find out. I was walking down the street with my wife and I saw like a group of young girls. And I was like, yo, how old do you think those girls are? And my wife was like, oh, they're in college. I was like, that's what they look like.
Starting point is 01:46:21 That's hard. I thought they were like middle school or something. That's crazy. So we fell off, but we still think we look 27. Yeah. Like, do you think you could play a character who's 27? Yeah. Yeah, I believe it. You could tell, right, by my voice. No, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:46:39 That's your voice. How do you think you look? Forty-eight. Forty-one. You're black. For a black dude, you look forty-one. No, that's a different scale. So how young can I not? No, that means he looks horrible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:55 For a black guy, he should look much younger. Oh, you're saying Alex Pat. Yeah. You think so? Yeah. Take off your hat. No, I don't do that. Why are you doing that? Do we need an intimacy coordinator? Do you feel uncomfortable? I feel uncomfortable seeing El's forehead.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Can I see your forehead? No. Why not? I don't have a cut. I don't feel comfortable. You're making me uncomfortable. Am I making you uncomfortable right now? The lead is 23 in the book.
Starting point is 01:47:18 Yeah, and she's 35. I mean, what are we doing, dude? And then on top of that, she's dressing older, it seems like. So like the character is already already like the character's 40 Yeah, why do we why do you think that this is such a huge story? Why do you think that people care so much about this? I think it really captured a lot of men felt very angry by the me to movement I actually truly wasn't all jokes aside. I'm not that guy, but they love this story because it's a it's a the woman
Starting point is 01:47:42 Seemingly it's proof. Here's an example. It's proof that they're all, now you don't have to believe any of it. So they just fucking glom onto it and they run with it. And I think that's the reason the right wing is really eating this story up. Candice and Ben Shapiro doing this story is wild. It also proves.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Yeah, but they're, I mean, like, Ben is just gonna do the story about whatever the most popular thing is. Like he did a story on Wicked. No, he's doing it because he sees Candace's numbers and he's like, oh shit. Oh, we gotta eat that. Yeah, 50,000 people on live, dog. Who is it?
Starting point is 01:48:11 Candace. On YouTube alone. Oh, Candace, I believe. Yeah. I don't need to hear Ben Shapiro talk about what is this called? You don't want to hear him sing WAP again. It also proves that the Hollywood elites are bad people. Oh, that's true as well.
Starting point is 01:48:25 That's what I'm trying to say. What are the little tent poles? What are the things this is touching on? I definitely think it's this feeling that the Me Too movement was kind of used as a weapon. Right? So that definitely is going to rub some people the wrong way. Maybe there is some Hollywood here.
Starting point is 01:48:39 But where is Hollywood? We didn't even touch on any of the Taylor stuff. It's also just people with power taking advantage of people who are essentially powerless. I don't know if I look at Justin Belanger as powerless, but what's interesting is here's this guy who exemplifies the fake male feminist that all these right-wing dudes have hated, right? The liberal cock or whatever like that. Now all of a sudden, because he's being taken advantage by this Me Too system, he's their...
Starting point is 01:49:07 He's our guy. I don't even want to say their hero, but he's the person that they want to defend. It's kind of an interesting thing. You defend the exact guy you hate. Yeah. Because you hate someone else more. You see these people that are like, oh, fake woke
Starting point is 01:49:19 and like they want everyone to be happy and they want equity and they're donating to brown people in different countries. And then the second someone focuses their money, they're coming for it, they're slandering him, they're taking his name, they're running through the dirt. Yeah. You know what's really telling the fact that
Starting point is 01:49:32 Taylor Swift distanced herself from her. This is a friend of 10 years and Miss Taylor... God parent of one of the kids. Taylor's like, oh, believe women, everything. I remember she came to like Kesha's defense and like gave her like 250,000 when that guy, like the producer smacked her butt or something like that. So this, your best friend.
Starting point is 01:49:52 You don't even know if that's what happened. I thought it was like a legit. The producer could have brutally. I thought that was what it was. Now I'm trying to make it into like, yo, good singing Kesha. Boy. Nice job, Turner.
Starting point is 01:50:04 I'm trying to saying it was legit. and you're just like, ass slap. I mean, it's a little ass slap. At least, at least. I'm just saying, normally, like, normally, Taylor would come to someone's, another woman's defense who's claiming sexual assault. But the fact that she's stepping aside is telling. And everyone was like, very conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 01:50:24 And they're like, oh, Taylor's gonna be the Super Bowl and Blake Lab's gonna be right next to her. And she's gonna show that that's her girl and that they're riding together. Yeah. And that she wasn't there. All right, so if you're Blake. Super telling. If you're Blake and Ryan, how do you get out of this?
Starting point is 01:50:35 If you're Ryan, you're a billion dollar business, right? I don't know what Blake's career is right now. But if you're Ryan, you are a billion dollar business, right? Obviously you're getting phone calls from Marvel, Sony, all these different production companies you're involved in. You got the football team out there, like everybody that you're making money with, and you are the celebrity CEO, right?
Starting point is 01:50:53 Like he's decided I'm gonna be the CEO of Minter Aviation. Mine is touch, dude. Everything he touches blows up. But it's not just like touching and move on. You are the ambassador. So as your stock goes down, so does the stock of these companies you represent. It's the you are the ambassador. So as your stock goes down, so does the stock of these companies you represent.
Starting point is 01:51:07 It's the gift and the curse. But a man is not a career alone. A man is a career and a family. And now he's committed to his wife, he can't just let his wife drown. Now you gotta separate himself. He gotta separate himself. He's like, I'm taking some time away from Blake.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to do that. But he's in a tough spot, because if he rides with Blake, it's possible he could tank his career. But if he distances himself, then it's possible he could lose his family. So what do you do?
Starting point is 01:51:31 Do you, hmm, what do you do if you're there? We have an all-hands-on-deck meeting at the house. Blake, shut up. There's another project out there. You can have your acting career somewhere else. We're letting this go for now. There's a billion dollars left. But can have your acting career somewhere else. We're letting this go for now. There's a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:51:47 But I think Ryan is the one who wants the project. You know what I think you could do? I bet you. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Oh, I think he wants it, of course, but he ain't getting it. I bet you they could call Baldoni.
Starting point is 01:51:58 My assumption is Baldoni really wants to be seen as the good guy who cares about women and wants to change the image of like masculinity or whatever it is. Akash, that exists. There are guys that care about women in the world. You ain't want them. I love them. We know. Fucking drop them off at the clinic and go get a Coney. What the fuck are you talking about? I bet you they could pull Baldoni aside and say, listen, we want to publicly apologize.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Is there any way you can help us save face here? We'll drop the lawsuit. We want to say that there's like misinterpretations. You get to be the good guy, but is there a way that we could not be so bad? And you get to be the hero here. You get to be the person that forgives and doesn't understand and there was misinterpretation and you understand why she felt certain ways but we apologize and we completely vindicate you and then we come together we even make the next movie but I bet he cares so much
Starting point is 01:52:55 about his image that he would drop everything. I 100% disagree. Definitely not. He got that billionaire backing him he's like let's go to war. My case is so strong. Like. Yeah, if you're not giving me $100 million, that apology, Gizzy, what are you offering me, the good guy role that I already seemingly have? Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:53:14 You're gonna, hey, we're gonna make you seem good. It's like me telling you, hey man, if we had a beef, imagine I came to you and was like, hey man, I'll help you sell some comedy tickets. You just be like, you'd be like, I'm already selling fucking arena, I need you. Yeah. Fuck you offering me. Yeah, but I care less about public perception
Starting point is 01:53:28 than Justin Bell, though. Yeah, but I was saying, the public perception's already on his side. That's true. So you're offering him something he already has. That is true, that is true. In a way that some comic comes to you and he's like, I'll help you sell out MSG,
Starting point is 01:53:36 you'd be like, done. That is true, but while you're, he's not radioactive because the people think he's a good guy, but it's not selling in court yet. So I don't know if he's getting work. And there's that saying in Hollywood, right? You could either work or you could sue. And I wonder if he's like, I wanna get back to work
Starting point is 01:53:53 and I wanna get back to making movies. But you know, I can't make a movie because no studio's gonna fund a movie while this court case is held up. So I literally cannot work, I cannot make money, I can't even use all this positive press that I got because this court case, and they're gonna string this shit on as long as they possibly can, and they got Big Bank.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Right, they only got some big backers, but I don't know how much money he actually has, I don't know how much he wants to spend on court fees. So I wonder if they code him like, yo, we're gonna squash this all, you get to be the hero. But we need you to just make her and me not look horrible, it was some misinterpretation. Let's move forward. Let's make another movie.
Starting point is 01:54:27 This is our bet. The suit is also levied not only against Baldoni, I'm pretty sure it's levied against the production company and the other billionaire producers. The Blake Lively lawsuit. Yeah, that lawsuit. So here's what I was gonna say. And they're friends with the other people
Starting point is 01:54:40 producing movies and they're gonna go, do you really wanna make a movie with this guy? He made this girl feel uncomfortable. This is what I'm saying, this is a web, this is not an individual situation. Like all these producers are gonna look at him, and right now he's the hero of the internet. And you know, Candace has got his back,
Starting point is 01:54:56 and all these girls on TikTok have got his back for this month, they're gonna have a new story that they care about next month, but that lawsuit's gonna still be going. I wonder if there's a conversation behind closed doors where they just go, you get to be the hero, we will apologize. We'll say we misinterpreted things and it was fucked up and there's things that we
Starting point is 01:55:10 wish we could have changed, but now we see it from your side and there's some sort of reconciliation and we move on and everybody gets to work. What's tricky is that they already tried to force him to put out an apology. So they wrote an apology for him when they had all the producers there. Who was they? Blake and that. When Reynolds was yelling at him, they gave him an apology for him when they had all the producers there. Who was they? Blake and the others. When Reynolds was yelling at him, they gave him an apology and they said,
Starting point is 01:55:27 you gotta put this out. We wrote it and it says, there's been problems on the set, I take accountability, that's what it means to be man enough, quoting his podcast name. And it's my fault and there's some misunderstandings, but everything's good. So they tried to get him to do an apology and he said no. I don't think he gotta apologize.
Starting point is 01:55:43 I think that he's just gotta go, I see where they went wrong and I really appreciate their apology. I don't think that they're bad people. They misinterpret some things. I think now they understand where things are coming from but I think it's best that we all kind of move on and then we made a great movie that people love.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Let's make more, let's continue to work. Because he doesn't want to be four years not working because people will forget about this movie. Remember, memories are short. Four years from now when he wants to make a new thing, people are gonna go, thank God Justin Boudon is back. Here's why, here's why. But he still has the rights.
Starting point is 01:56:10 He still has the rights to either their sequel, or their prequel, or something like that. You can have the rights to whatever you want if a producer's not gonna put 25 million up for you to make the movie. It ain't gonna happen. Well, the production company's got his back. If the agency isn't gonna put actors in that movie,
Starting point is 01:56:21 there's no land. But the agencies might not put the, and the actors might be friends. I'm telling you, it's like, yes, it makes sense on the surface what you guys are saying, but did you see how quickly Blake got the feminist chick that hosts the podcast with him? They know each other.
Starting point is 01:56:35 They do a podcast every week with their friends. She knows who he is intimately. And at the idea of a better opportunity, she immediately went with the, this is a girl who built her whole identity online around being a feminist, immediately throws this guy down the river for the people she doesn't even fucking know
Starting point is 01:56:50 because they're more powerful and offer more opportunities. Here's what I would say. I'm just saying, if that's some podcast host that's gonna do it, you don't think some fledgling actors in Hollywood would also do it in a heartbeat. So here's what I'll say. That's why the whole cast, real quick, that's why the whole cast was supporting Ryan and Blake.
Starting point is 01:57:05 It wasn't, I don't think it's because they 100% believe they were right. They believed that their future salvation was in Ryan and Blake's hands and in the studios that support them and not this independent. But that was before the tech scandal. True, if you're settling you better attach a big number to that settlement or like if you're whatever apologizing, I need some money. Also the saying you can sue or you can work, I do believe that. The second, they sued him. They put him in a position where it's like, all right, well, my only way out is to counter sue,
Starting point is 01:57:32 but since I'm suing, I have to ask for such an enormous amount of money, I never have to work again, because I'm probably not going to work after this. And then there's also, there's one great scene in The Office where like the main character, Michael Scott, is trying to like negotiate with the company that he works for, Mike, whatever, Donnie Mifflin.
Starting point is 01:57:53 And they're like, you know, you don't have time. I know what's gonna happen. You can't sustain your business. You can't whatever. And then he says, essentially, listen, I don't, I just have to wait you out. I just have to wait you out. I don't need to win anything. I don't need to make business. I just have to wait you out. I don't need to win anything.
Starting point is 01:58:05 I don't need to make business. I just gotta wait you. If I'm Blake, if I'm Justin Baldonia, I say to Blake and Ryan, you don't think I can win this lawsuit. I don't think you can lose any more than you're already losing. Your public perception is being fucking tanked.
Starting point is 01:58:18 And I think that drives you way more crazy and hurts your net worth way more than it hurts mine. I just gotta wait you out. So if you're gonna give me 100 million, cool. Wayfair gotta wait you out, not Justin. And at what point does Wayfair go, all right bro, I had your back, but now we're five years into this lawsuit,
Starting point is 01:58:34 I've done 50 million in lawyer fees, we still haven't gotten anywhere. No, but if they sued the billionaire also, that motherfucker got empty, endless pockets. Yeah, and Justin and Blake don't have endless pockets. Who's your backer? Because if it's your backer versus my backer, if your backer is you, I promise my backer can a big bank gonna take a little bit.
Starting point is 01:58:54 This is so many lawsuits. And if he wins, that is the ultimate victory. That is Goliath and whatever the guy is. I got money. I got public deception. I'm on a roll guys. I didn't seep all up. I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:59:10 We always root for the underdog. I get what you're saying. I think the people root for it. I do think that you underestimate people's attention spans with things. And I think the people are eventually just going to stop caring about this. Like they stop caring about any trending topic. There's going to be a new thing. And then when the people are eventually just gonna stop caring about this like they stop caring about any trending topic There's gonna be a new thing and then when the people stop caring
Starting point is 01:59:27 Who's in the advantageous position? I think Baldoni. Yeah, I think I was in person six months from now Let's say nothing changes and it's just a stalemate waiting for court. I think people go and they oh, yeah It wasn't Blake Lively a bitch Yep, I think that's what the average person. That's what I'm trying to say. But if I'm Ryan and Blake, I'm like, there's no way, I'm assuming there's no way they win this lawsuit, right? So the only thing they can do is stretch it out to the point where like there's a settle or people decide to go their own way, right?
Starting point is 01:59:56 Cause it seems like with the information out there, they can't win the lawsuit. A court date is set. They can't push it back anymore. They don't want to go to court. But that's what I'm saying. So it's like, it's going to get settled sometime before March of next year.
Starting point is 02:00:06 So you can settle but you have to cut a big check when you can't just say hey, we'll apologize in a song. If I'm Baldoni, I'm like you can apologize. That's great. I need a hundred M's. Otherwise you're out. If they pay any money, it's over for them. That's the thing. But the terms of settlement don't get released or that could be part of the agreement. That always gets released. Well, so Baldoni's lawyer's making their life hell. He's saying, like, oh, Taylor Swift was involved in casting, which is what one of the actors said.
Starting point is 02:00:30 So now she's the producer. Oh, Taylor Swift was involved with the music, and she was in production? Oh, okay, she helped rewrite one of the scenes? We gotta depose her. And now he's trying to leverage that, which is why Taylor's now saying, like, I wasn't really involved, or her soloing from her camp.
Starting point is 02:00:41 He's trying to make everybody around them's life miserable, so that they start putting pressure on Ryan and Blake and go yo get me the fuck out of this Yeah, if you're gin aviation if you're mint mobile if you're the fucking FX producers welcome to Rex or whatever It's called Rob McElhaney who does this. Are you not looking at them? Like what the fuck are y'all doing? Yeah, Baldoni's guys are saying hey fight the good fight. We got your back Their guys are saying our net worth is tanking because of you. Yeah. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:10 I just think that's a bigger deal than I can't get in that. I just think the only the only cards that they have to play are reconciliation with Baldoni and playing into his ego. And the only thing they can do right now, it seems like. And a lot of money. Yeah. You got him dropped from his agency like he's already tainted in Hollywood. And that's what they're alleging is Ryan Reynolds had already been putting pressure on WME to drop Baldoni. And if you are WME, you're going to want to side with Ryan Reynolds the second
Starting point is 02:01:36 that article drops. All right, fine. Now we got a reason. Let's go. You're out. I mean, this is a tough thing. If you're an agency, you like that check that Ryan gives you every single month. Exactly. You'd be paying more money for you than Baldoni. Way more money than Baldoni. I don't fall WME for that either. So that's what you do. All of those people, like how many people
Starting point is 02:01:54 are pot committed to Ryan Reynolds? How many people are gonna fight tooth and nail to make sure he doesn't lose this lawsuit? And Baldoni has to decide if he thinks it's winnable knowing this many people are trying to take him out. But Baldoni is in such an advantageous position, which is why also this is such a big story because all the texts are leaked. It's just feeding the fucking gossip sites for generations. And don't mean he doesn't back you. They'll drop you at any. They'll drop anybody at any point.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Any agency will drop anyone. They'll drop anybody at any point. Any agency will drop anyone. Valdoni needs to donate millions of dollars to whatever cause Candace Owens cares the most about. Because what she has done to shift the online narrative about this. It was already there, but she definitely. I think she organized it.
Starting point is 02:02:43 And she just made it, like it was there and it was kind of fractured and like some people believe this and I would ask people, I'd always ask like, I'm his friend, I'd be like, yeah, so how do you feel about this? Who do you think or whatever? Once Candice started putting those things out,
Starting point is 02:02:54 it was a unanimous decision immediately from every person I asked. And I know they only watched three minutes of TikTok, but it was unanimous. Like I don't think my wife has ever watched Candice before. Right. So dumb of her, Candice, by the way. No, but like, and then the first thing she referenced when she was talking about it, she was like, I was watching the Candice break this whole thing down.
Starting point is 02:03:15 It was crazy. It's interesting. Yeah, I think the I don't know if like if what would you do if you're Ryan and Blake? I would I would drop, you know, drop it immediately. Whatever you need. And if I'm thinking of the pressure they must be going through, again, What would you do if you're Ryan and Blake? I would drop, yo. Drop it immediately. Whatever you need. And if I'm thinking of the pressure they must be going through, again, you're worth upwards of a billion dollars.
Starting point is 02:03:31 Even if you're not there, you're getting there. This ain't worth it. What are we doing? It was a fucking cute movie. Get out of here. We're getting out while the getting is good. I would have never taken it this far. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:42 It depends on what they have. It depends what their hand is. You know, I mean, like Baldoin just showed he's like, you know, I got, you know, two kings. They're playing blackjack. And it's like, maybe they got an ace. Like, you don't know. So you just got to wait.
Starting point is 02:03:52 And then if they fold and it's like, yeah, they were bluffing. And if they go to court, then they're like, no, we think we got. I'm inclined to believe if you had an ace and you have you're losing that much. Yeah. You play your. You show your hand. Call. Do you want to put it in the court of public opinion to let it then get potentially thrown out in court? Or do you just wait till the court date? We're going to sit on it because we know we're going to win in court.
Starting point is 02:04:13 I mean, that's fine. That's a year from now. What happens to Ryan Reynolds if they lose? I don't think much. I think Reynolds would be OK. Yeah. I think Reynolds would be OK. Blake toast? Yeah, Blake.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Because Reynolds can hide behind, listen, I was supporting my wife. My wife was telling Reynolds would be okay. Blake toast? Yeah, Blake. Because Reynolds can hide behind, listen, I was supporting my wife. My wife was telling me she was feeling uncomfortable, blah, blah, blah, I gotta go do this. She says she doesn't like this guy, so I'm gonna make fun of him in my movies. I got her back no matter what, I'm a supportive husband. I would have liked if maybe there was a little bit
Starting point is 02:04:38 more transparency about what actually happens, but I gotta support my wife. I think that we can get behind him on that 100%. And I think she gotta take that on the chin. To your earlier point, you need Candace to get behind me. Candace right now is doing a number on Ryan Reynolds. She's the one saying, I think he's behind all of this.
Starting point is 02:04:55 He's the one driving it. He was insecure. He was jealous. Well, to save Ryan, Blake gotta take the hit. Blake gotta be like, he wasn't part of this. I did this all myself. Maybe I misinterpreted some things clearly,
Starting point is 02:05:09 I fucked up, I was in an emotional state, I just had a kid, I didn't have my fucking brain with me. And Ryan was just trying to be a good supportive husband, I fucked up and we take accountability for this entirely. And then Ryan just gotta be like, listen, I'm gonna support my wife no matter what. Obviously we wish things went differently but I you know it's my family and I got to support it I think dudes can be like I like yeah I
Starting point is 02:05:30 had to support my wife through some dumb shit yeah million but they might be able to get out of this but Blake got to take the whole thing on a chin yeah you say say pick your battles yeah I didn't understand that till I got married and this is Gettysburg. I'm dying on this one, yo. I'm dying on this. We divorcing or you're taking us on the chin? Oh yeah, you're taking us on the chin. This is on you.
Starting point is 02:05:51 This is what it is. That is an interesting way out. Blake takes it all on the chin. They still gotta pay him though. Still gotta pay him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Best than their whole fortune. But it will save you a lot in the end.
Starting point is 02:06:01 All right guys, well listen, clearly that's what you all wanted to know, right? Everybody wanted to know exactly what was going on with Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni and Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift, so we delivered that to you, okay? This was for you, this is not for us. Obviously we have no interest in this at all.
Starting point is 02:06:16 None, none. Obviously it's not dominating our lives. Our wives, our fiancés do not care about this at all. We've not been discussing this at home. We discuss it here for you. I have no personal investment. Zero, zero interest. Zero interest at all, okay?
Starting point is 02:06:30 These are things that we do for you because we love you. Okay, and we have, you know, we have more. We have more to discuss. But what else do we have to discuss? You're talking about a USAID being a CIA soft power in order to take over the world? When did we stop trying to take over, when did we stop being confident about taking over the world?
Starting point is 02:06:47 Yeah, we got very cute about it. Yeah, like why are we embarrassed about that? I think Afghanistan. Because we stopped being good at it. Vietnam was a one-two. But you're not going to take over the world by doing like the trans plays in Iraq. Or is that the perfect way? Is that the whole reason why we're building up the trans movement here in America?
Starting point is 02:07:10 That's what some people are saying. Why does it destabilize, what does it do? That's what some Russian guy said. You remember that clip with that Russian guy saying, like, this is how you destabilize America? Is just make everything trans? Yeah, you just cause a lot of identity politics issues and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:07:22 Have you ever seen that clip? No. You guys have seen that clip, right? Yeah, it's like a famous YouTube clip of some guy from like 25 years ago or 30 years ago being like, this is how you would cause instability in a place like the US. You make it all internal,
Starting point is 02:07:32 have them fighting about things that don't matter, like identity politics, and that would cause enough stability. And then you fund the minority power, and then you create the need for American imperialism to be present in the country, because now there's this culture war that's stoked. Ah. Or maybe they're just trying to help artists in a disenfranch now there's this culture war that's stoked. Ah.
Starting point is 02:07:45 Or maybe they're just trying to help artists in a disenfranchised country. I feel like that might be a two. We'll figure it out on Patreon. Yeah, we'll probably figure it out. Patreon.com slash Flavor It. We'll see you guys over there. Peace.

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