Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Knicks WIN The East & Chelsea Handler Takes SHOTS

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

YERRRR we got Nate Jackson here today, discussing: - Kevin Hart Roast - Comedy still feeling segregated - Schulz being inspired by Russ - Enhanced Games flopping - Massie getting got - Heightism vs Racism And much more - ENJOY Timestamps: 0:00 Nate is good luck + NY is LOUD 3:06 Sonics are BACK + Boojie Nate 6:09 Win for America, Paranoia + OKC x Seattle 11:14 Roast = Comedy Super Bowl + Hinchcliffe was crushing 14:20 Chelsea finding "issues" + Zionist comment HURT 19:31 White people for change + Comedy segregation 23:58 Def Comedy Jam, NY diversity + "Mainstream" 25:34 Austin, Oregon skinheads + Black nights 29:59 Grabbing who was safe + Black comedians subsidizing 33:19 Marketed as "urban", Diversity + Archetype 38:22 Power of the algorithm + Culture shock 44:03 Racism in the clubs + Marketing differently 48:58 Schulz's journey, specific algorithm + relentless work 56:40 Intimacy in comedy + Crowd work is pure 1:01:01 Josh Johnson's method 1:02:39 Enhanced Games = flop 1:09:48 Fox News Mask? 1:12:56 Thomas Massie loses his seat 1:16:23 Colbert ends, Fallon + Music 1:20:57 Inspirations + Lil Duval 1:29:19 Edible "creativity" + Russ is the source 1:33:07 Andrew's work ethic + Quality over quantity 1:35:52 Blue's Clues, Familiarity + Curation 1:41:38 Comedy running 24/7 1:43:37 Plane hitting paraglider 1:45:13 Fake speaker 1:46:38 Feet juice for sale 1:48:33 5'2 White or 6'5 Black guy + Kevin's MEAT 1:51:51 Jalen Brunson hit your girl? White boy fun 1:55:03 Recreating Comedy Jam This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody? Welcome to Flagrins. And today we are, today we are feeling optimistic. Today we are feeling good. The New York Knicks have advanced after 27 years to the NBA finals. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Big, big, big applause. We got our boy Nate Jackson here who came to celebrate the Knicks victory. He was in Harold Square. I appreciate it. You guys probably know him from his comedy. You see maybe his Netflix special. You've seen him online. But even Nate, a person from the West Coast, wanted to feel greatness in this city. He booked his shows at the Brooklyn Improv. He did two weekends in a row to make sure that he could be here just in case the Nix extended past four games. But they swept, obviously, is what we do in the playoffs now.

So, Nate, thank you so much for your contribution to New York's Knicks' lore. I think I'm the reason you guys won. Just because, like, you needed somebody who missed basketball as much as me. to be in the city so that they just felt that energy. Yeah. Buckets, you know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know if this is good for the city or bad.

Obviously, it's, like, good because you needed a win. But, like, you guys don't know how to act. Like, this is ridiculous. Yeah, yeah. We're united, man. This is, this feels like 9-12. You're united in, that's a list. You're united in anarchy, though.

Like, they're literally, like, there's, like, I saw a grandma crowd surfing. Like it's, yeah. Yeah. It's panamonium. People think New Yorkers are relaxed. I don't know why. We've never been relaxed. That's never, nobody has ever been like, let's talk about New Yorkers.

Yeah, people think they were just vibing and cooling. Definitely, L.A., that's us. Oh, is that you guys? You guys are well-up. What's up, yo? What's up? It's a brick out here, yo. What's up, son?

Oh, my God. Son. Look at that. Wow. But you've usually just see us angry and disappointed. Right? You guys are loud. But we're loud and positive.

No. No. You didn't see positivity oozing in the streets right there? It's not positive or negative. The normal New York that I know is just like loud. And it's not, they're like, peanut butter. My girl left me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, it's not sanity. That's insanity. Yeah, we're insane people. We're passionate people. We're passionate people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You got... Paul... I mean, people are just going crazy. There's a million in these videos. And that's his inside voice. That's what I'm saying. And that's the women. That's ridiculous.

But doesn't it remind you when you were to a basketball team? Yes. Go Sonics. We're back. They approved the two expansion teams. So Seattle's Sonsonics. We'll be back. Are they going to name them to Sonics?

Yeah, we kept our name. Really? Yeah, that's why Oklahoma's the... What are they called? Don't hate now. Don't hate now. Don't hate now. You salty.

So we kept our name and brand. And then Vegas is the other expansion that they... An NBA team of Vegas is just bad news, bro. I mean, that's what we said about hockey and they did that. Hockey, I'm not worried about because they're going to drink anywhere. But they... And then the Oakland A's are... I mean, they're the Vegas athletics now.

Yeah. They're going to have very... every sport. Yeah, it's just going to be bad. Like, NBA players know how to actually party and people know who they are. Baseball players, nobody really knows who they are. Hockey players, nobody really knows who they are. Well, the baseball players don't speak English, so they don't kick it how we kick it.

How do they kick it? At Latin night. A little carnaceada? Yeah, little rooftop. Yeah. Still wearing cleats. So, you would never complain about your hotel 10 years ago, Nate. I wouldn't?

No. Absolutely would. Always been bougie. That's not a boogey complaint. I've been there for 11 days. By the time you hear, you can tell what shoes they got on. I'm on the 10th floor of the rooftops of the 11th. No, I was cool for five days of it.

You just caught me on the back half of like, really? On a Sunday? It's Memorial Day weekend. They've been kicking it extra. But 15 years ago, when you're on the road and you're at some comedy club and you're at like a motel for the weekend, you're not even worried about the sounds that are coming out of the room. next to you, right? Now you're at a different level

of success where Latinos can't be stomping on your roof. Oh, they had a black night, a white night, a Latin night. But what was the loudest? A Asian night. Really? Yeah. Just you'll hear them run and then it'd be

quiet for a second and then it'd be real loud. I don't know, is that a kick? They got wooden sandals, that's why. It's extremely flicking black people. If you go peep to Asian night, you got at least luck. I didn't go through it at all on any night. Really? Yeah, but they do go way longer than West Coast parties, because we're

wrapped by like two at the latest. Yeah. They're winding down at four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're 4 a.m. And then they had it, they had day parties too. So it will go from like that brunch, like 11 a.m. all the way until 4 in the morning. This is a real, it's a real city. We have

real drugs, bro. It's not, we don't like smoke. We didn't do it. And y'all own them. Y'all on the hard stuff. Yeah, you guys are out here. It comes here first. And that's what's in these videos. I see drug abuse. I see a little bit of just a little bit just a little bit of, you know. This is patriotism.

I mean, this is beautiful. Look at that. That's an epic shot. America! That's America's team right there. Something's on the flag. Something's on there. We don't got to worry about it. Oh, yeah?

Let's not make a political statement. They're just invited as a city. We're coming together. There's something on that flag. We want to talk. Back to blue. There's only flag he had in his house.

You didn't worry something. You can't always plan. No, it's amazing to see. Al, how are you feeling, man? I really feel this is a win for America right here. It is a win for America. This is a win for America. Why do you feel like that?

Because like New York is America. Like all the other states are just like, you know, you're there. But this is, you know, you know what it is. If New York is up, if New York is up, the country's up. Yeah. Okay. I mean, this is crazy. This guy just crowd surfing on the street.

That's insanity. They come. God, that's just. Come on. There's someone in that car trying to leave. They honked, and this is what they're responsible. And this is just the Eastern Conference. If we win the finals, they really got to shut down the city.

No, I saw that. I literally, my car, my car was fighting. Literally. We were about to leave and make a left out of there. And they were saying the barricades up right. I was like, we can't go left. Like, they made us go straight. And that bus driver and that pre-vost bus was turned.

He was up in the window, hung up. So he's a reason that everyone was like, yeah. And then when the clock expired the game, all the cops were like, like hitting him so the whole street was crazy. Like, this is a problem, you guys. Like, if this is your control, this is crazy. You're going to have to do things shit.

You know when he, like, blew up all the bridges and Batman? That's the only way you're going to stop pandemonium in New York at the Nixon. They're going to tear out a Statue of Liberty. They're going to tear up, what's it, Moynihan? they're tearing that up. Where did you watch the game? I didn't have my house. And what was the emotional breakdown

quarter by quarter? I mean, it was a blowout by half. So it was really just like, don't fuck it up. They won't by like 40. Yeah, it was great. I know, but the paranoia of New Yorkers specifically next man. I didn't answer to group chat until there was three minutes left

in the fourth. A lot of people have been like, they're like, don't talk to me about it with because they've torn my heart out many times. Literally my hands were doing that. Dan Sodor is at the cell of time. He's like, yeah, you guys are up 20, and I'm like, Dan, don't do this right now. Do not ruin this right now.

Everything is okay. Everything is okay right now. So, yeah, I'm absolutely terrified. I'm still fucking terrified. I'm putting on, like, fake bravado. Who's on the other side then? What do you mean? Aren't they still playing?

Yeah, they are, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, too, too right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where does Kalshi have the Western Conference, like, odds? Can you pull that up most? They still got OKC up? Yeah, okay C's at 61%. San Antonio at 40%.

Yeah, I think, uh, I don't know why I think San Antonio got it. So it's either the alien or the refs. Or the refs. So here's the thing about like if OKC play. And you probably got animosity for OKC because they used to be the Sonics and they left your ass. I have just nothing for them. You feel nothing?

Nothing. Not at all. Not at all. There's not a little nostalgia play. There's not like that you see me on a franchise and they yanked it away from it. Of course there's nostalgia. There's nostalgia. Yeah.

They had a Durant game And they just like whatever team Kevin was on at the time They came back and played in Seattle And it was just like it was like we were back Yeah It was just to watch Kevin Durant You know what is kind of crazy is like Great Sports City

Seattle To lose the franchise is the most peculiar I don't know. I just don't understand We didn't even know they were for sale It was like July 2nd, 2008 And kids were trying to get into the arena And they just put it, somebody just came up and taped a lined piece of paper, college ruled. They're now in Oklahoma City.

Yeah. Wow. Dirty. Go Thunder. Dirty. All that money out there. Apparently that was the Starbucks guy. Howard Shultz.

He did what? He sold it? According to Chad Chivit says he owns the Sonics, the team was losing money. No one put that on me now. And wanted a major renovation. They're a billionaires now. He might have had a tea. He might have a tea.

It sounded. How did you say it? his name? Howard what? Schultz. I don't hear the T-pronounce, man. That's a lot of T-N-N-A. There's too much T-N-A-F. Fuck that guy.

Fuck Starbucks. So in order to upgrade the arena, he tried to do this whole thing, but officials didn't want to give him a deal. So in 2006, he sold the team to OKC led by Clay Bennett. Can someone explain this shit to me? Why is it that we always have to pay for the arena to get upgraded, but we don't own the team?

I don't know. But Green Bay owns their team, and I'm just jealous sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, but that's the only way they're going to have a team there. Yeah. Because if it was one guy that on that team, that team would be in Vegas already. Yeah, that's for sure. The only way you could keep a team in Green Bay, Wisconsin,

is if every single person in town owned a piece of that team. I haven't had a good time in Green Bay. You've done shows? Yeah, I've been out there. I haven't had a good time yet. Why? I don't know. It's just like it's not my speed.

I feel like everybody's got the inward on the tip of their tongue. Where else do you put? What part of your tongue do you place? I got a tip for you if you. Speaking of, what do you think of the roast? I was there, man. I thought, first of all, I don't think anybody's talking about how easy it is to just get caught up in the moment. Because it was like a comedy Super Bowl.

Yeah. And a lot of while shit was getting said, but you're like, fuck hey. You're eating a charcutory board off a table. was a camera in your face. Oh, did they catch you laughing at some crazy shit? On the live feed, I was in like seven times, according to my nieces, and then in what ended up staying on, I guess I was in three or four times. Really?

So they were like... Did you get shit for laughing at stuff that is? No, no, no, no. I didn't get shit for laughing. I think one of my big ones, like, I was cracking up hard, and they caught me, but it was when Cat Williams said something about that. Oh, that's fine. But it was like, and people got to understand, like, what people are...

Because if anyone's seen it, you've seen them there's been like, I don't know if you call it a hater. A little backlash. Yeah, there's a backlash. There's a backlash. Yeah, but this thing was three hours long. And so if you took the time it took to say every word that piss people off or whatever, it's like they're mad about about 50 seconds of content out of the whole thing. But I said that when Charlotte Man asked me on the breakfast,

but I'm like, I feel like Hinchcliff had it. He didn't need that last joke. Yeah. He had it. He had every household. He was crushing. He had every household. He had five times the last per minute than anyone else.

Yeah, he was on fire. It was nuts. He had notes. So he was going teleprompter from his mind, from his notes. Like he was like, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. And then at the end, he says to George Ford thing, I literally was like, I turned to Dionne call, I was like, he ain't had to do that, he had the country. He had everyone.

And then he just was like, and by the way, tear back in hat. He had everyone. So you think there was nothing else that he said, you think that he would have been just unanimous best part of the roast. If he didn't go there, we might be nitpicking over something else he said, but it wouldn't have been something that is so blatantly, like both sides were like, yeah, he went a little far. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It would be an easy to be like, you're tripping, funny's funny. Like some of that stuff was like, eh, on paper, yeah, that ain't that funny. Yeah. Even with delivery, you know what I mean? But it wasn't necessary to say, you know? I mean, look at how hard he, he went so hard.

He just lobbed Cheryl his second career. You know what I'm saying? She's back. She got a book on Netflix special. She killed it. Absolutely. And she's a beast. She's been a talented for decades, man.

Facts. I was a kid watching Cheryl. Both. So that's what I'm saying. And it was epic because she said everything that needed to be said. And then got a chance to defend herself. And then you saw her going to having fun. And then telling everyone why it's okay to have free speech.

She kind of touched on all four things that needed to be said in the moment. Yeah. But the first, if Tony didn't go that far, that hard, I don't think that is received just as much, you know what? You think that was the one thing that framed it? Because it seemed like, I don't know, I don't know, like there's been some people talking about it. I mean, Chelsea's been talking about it a lot lately. What did Chelsea say? She's really like saying like she's like casting them out badly.

Yeah, I mean. What do you mean? Like, she's like, they're sexist, they're bigots, they're, like, there's nothing to do with what's funny. And she even, she even brings up what Cheryl wasn't offended by and says that she would be. So she's trying to tell Cheryl what she's offended by. No, you can watch it right there. She's on a pod with Dion. And this is basically what she said.

This clip got like 14 million views. Did it? But, yeah, I mean, it went crazy viral. But this is basically, we can cut through a couple parts. Tony Hinchcliff and Shane and their backgrounds. I had girls, ex-girlfriends blowing up my DMs that had dated Shane and were telling me stuff about him.

So based on that, I was like, oh, these guys are pretty bad. So you had something on him that you was about him. You pitiful. Tell us now. What? It's just everything we know that they're racist, that they're biggest, that they're sexist,

you know, that they think they're like invincible, that they've been canceled for being like, you know, Shane got fired from S&L, but then, was on SNL years later. So he got fired. So what happened in between those two events? So he believes this is Perra, one of his exes, that he's invincible.

He's like, it doesn't matter. I can say anything I want. Yeah. Do you think that now a lot of white comics, they feel as though that they can say something racist and it's more further their career? Well, yeah, they're going to get into that group of like Roganites and that Austin group of Joe Rogan and all of those guys. And I just, you know, like that's.

their M.O. Even some girl comics have started to do it to be like in with that group. Man, that Epstein comment hurt her, bro. That's got to be down to her. She said she was at the island. Not even the island. She went to like a small dinner.

Small dinner's worse. Like if you had like a big event, he was at like if you were at Coachella's like I didn't know he was going to be at Coachella. But if you had his house with like seven other people, damn. Yeah. But what if you don't know? You just still not know. I know who's at the

dinner with seven other people. Maybe. How many of you've been to with seven other people? That's so exotic. You're like, just trust me, we're going to this bomb-ass island. We're about to have dinner.

I don't think it was at the island. Yeah, I think it was in New York City. Yeah, I was that it. Either way, we're about to have this bomb-ass dinner. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And if fairs and Chelsea, I think she talked about it a bunch before this.

I think she did like in a book and like did it in like her special. And like, she talked about meeting them before. So why is she like framing them in this light? This is why don't understand. Oh, I don't. I thought it was the Zionist comment that got her. That's what I thought turned her up too. Because right now, that's radioactive right now.

Oh, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. So she's, what is she? She's saying she's a Zionist. No, he said that. Yeah. He said it all in one in her intro. Yeah, yeah.

Just a throw away. And chuckled all the way through it. Like, no, I'm seriously. Which, it is funny. She really didn't go to a dinner. It's fucked up, man. Anyway, it is funny that, like, she's sitting there and saying that, like, Shane and Tony are Nazis. and she's sitting next to Dionne Cole

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Like I'm okay with her being like, I don't want you talking about lynch and black people as a joke. Even if her, even if the soapbox she's standing on is tattered. Yeah. Somebody got to say it. You know what the difference? You know what I'm saying? Oh, you prefer if it's somebody else saying. No, I do prefer if it's us, but somebody needs to keep that going so it's not like, the blacks are still mad?

You know what I mean? Yeah. You've got to date your anger when somebody else is saying. It's not about, we're pissed already, but you guys don't respond and you guys being white. You guys don't respond until you see other white people involved. Like, look at the history of what it took to get real change in the civil rights movement. Like, they had to see some white people getting around. Like, oh, okay, now they've gone too far.

Yeah, yeah. So you're saying that white people are the real good guys. Phenomenic. Yeah. It's just when you make the real change. It's just when you get what you think of it. win the way you act it's all the same

they used to have the same size parties and it wasn't for winning so I'm just glad something was said but I you know I hate that we have to sit back like do you ever have to battle that like you're like I'm a comedian and I say fucked up things versus

I'm a black dude of course but I walk up to the line of what's acceptable I might put a toe over and then I back up off of it. Like, I'm not... Some people are enamored by what it does across the line.

Like, what are they going to do when I get on this side and then I play over here? Like, let's play in this area of, like, like, let's elicit responses. Like, the response I want is laughter, so I just want to stand on the funny side of things. Yeah. As far as the black part, like, I am.

Like, there's nothing that I can do to be being... Like, comedy segregated. What do you do? Yeah. You know what I mean? Comedy segregated. Yeah. Meaning what?

What? Like, there's black crowds. Honestly, I don't see color. So, like, so we never made any sense. His podcast is segregated right now. I was like, why there's so many water fountains? They should have made you ballrog. You would have seen color after that.

You're going to be a black character. Let's see how you feel. So you mean, like, in terms of, like, there are circuits. There's, like, the black circuit, the white circuit. There's the Latino now that's building up. Yes. That's literally what it is. But you've done both.

I've done both. came up in the black circuit. Facts, but why does that to be a circuit? It's only because of necessity, black people wouldn't have to be like, we're going to do it our way over here like this

if there was a fair inclusion. I think it's two things. I think it's fair inclusion, but I also think it's like people want to see the comedy that they relate to reflected. So like if you go to some like mainstream...

I'm performing in theaters that black people weren't allowed in. Like, we aren't in new theaters. The last time you were in a brand spanking new theater. No, no. I'm not, I'm not, they're all old. Like, they're all, yeah. And literally black people weren't allowed.

Of course, of course, of course. And we built it. So, I was at the rhyming like, naked, naked, naked, naked. I hope everybody understands and that needs to be said by me on this stage. Now let's start the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mexicans build a rhyme in because they redid it. But I think the initial version.

Of course, I think people in the rhyme and have said that were before. A lot. Yeah, a lot. Before you all were alive. They're like, finally. Back to what music is right here. But there's, we went to, we went to, one theater in it, they still, because it was

like, they kept it historically, what did you see? It's in Alabama, we were there. And it said? And there's a colored section that they kept up in the back where black people used to sit at shows. We did that one. You did? Well, this isn't what I was talking about, but this is very interesting. And I didn't make black people sit there. I actually...

You should have. So... Progressive. No, what I saw was there was one that kept their sink. It was like, this was a black's only sink, and it was in the back. And it didn't work, but they were like, just so you know, like... So all these theaters at one point, not allowed. Then they let mezzanine seating. Then it's like, now y'all can come wherever.

And then we were allowed to perform. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So it's not that far off. We're not talking. I'm like, my dad remembers. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. You're a dad remembers. I saw that video y'all walk in MS. He's old enough. Yeah, my dad is his Alzheimer's. He hasn't remember. You don't see color. He doesn't remember colors.

It doesn't remember color. It's a very progressive. Yeah. He thinks the world is perfect. You know? That's funny. But no, it is. It is, yeah, I guess that is, I don't know, it's also like, it's weird for me because my introduction to comedy was deaf comedy jam, you know, and it was like, I don't even think I saw white comics.

Like I was, like, aware of like Seinfeld and that, but I never saw Seinfeld stand-up until late, years later, I saw the show first. So it was this, like, thing that I saw and observed. And I also, like, grew up in New York. So it was a little bit different, obviously, for me than somebody who, like, never saw diversity at all. Like, it wasn't like a weird. You guys are definitely. very cultured out this way. But I do agree with you,

less representation into mainstream clubs, way more now, but definitely less initially. Why are we calling that mainstream? Do you should I'm saying? All of these definitions are because somebody was like,

nah, let that be over there. Well, I think they called it mainstream because of that reason, right? It was like, it was called the Chitlin circuit when I was coming up, which was like the black circuit.

Because you guys love that food old. Yeah, they would give free Chittling out at all the show. dude that's why I went I got five minutes and a bucket of Chitlins too that's like that's like a big

shout out of the Smokey Suarez man I love you Smokey I love you thank you I never got any tickets she had the parrot and shot this shit I put smokies on my drink Oh yeah I want to talk about that too So if you look at the definition

of chillins it's literally is why it's called the chilling circuit It's the part of the pig that nobody wanted to eat They're like here y'all can have that And then they made the most of it Yeah And now it would get cultural

Delicacy or whatever So yeah I'm not trying to like rah-rah for like the black comics. I just wanted, I'm just saying it is. It is what it is. And the fact that you have to circumvent and go around or whatever. The proof is in the pudding wing. Part of Hollywood goes, let's just go to Austin.

Explain that. Well, Austin is very red. Austin is not. Austin is like. Texas is red. Texas is red. Thompson girl was like, what you wanted to be in the blue city and a red stain. But isn't that every like,

conservative state. It's like the capital's always like the most like liberal place. You go like the reddest fucking state. Facts, but they're like keep Austin weird. Like they put effort into it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what being democratic is in a real thing. These guys are fucking weird. Like gay people get married. Yeah. It's fucking odd. But isn't, isn't Washington

like that too? Isn't Washington super red except for? No. Washington's blue. I thought Washington was like where to KKK went or some shit. And then like Seattle. I think you made me thinking about, I the hole. No. Maybe Oregon. Or maybe I'll think of Oregon.

Potentially. Medford, Oregon. Those are the same to me a lot. All my dad was like, don't stop there for gas. That's all I know. When I was younger, yeah. When we were on college road trips,

he's like, there's a lot of places you can get gas. I wouldn't recommend Mattford. Gresham. They just had a high population of skinheads. Like, legit. Just like, yeah. Tight black boots, tight jeans, big boots.

You know? Now that you can go to Turkey. I feel like that skinhead shit is done. I feel like they were leading into that a little bit because of, you know, like, hereditary reasons. Germany, too? They had hair over there. Not the ones that were in the boots.

They didn't. I thought they had, they used to say to my haircut look like that. That's the old school. Back in a day, the old one. Or the old one. We got sideburns now. Now I got sideburns. That was the thing.

I knew nothing of it. And I was like, who the fuck is that? But, no. No, it's a segregated thing. And that's why, like, kudos to you. Like, I give roses because you come up cultured, right? Like, Matt Rife, right? Matt's little Ohio kid.

He's been, I mean, came up cultured. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's not like, it doesn't feel like because of a thing that success is a thing. I'm just saying, like, it's, like, this is how crazy it is. Chocolate Sundays? Yeah, yeah. No, I love it. Mo Better Mondays.

Tripping on Tuesdays. Wiling out Wednesdays, crack them up Thursdays. Those are the black shows in L.A. And you can legitimately do those your whole life. Yeah. And never do. The star of Chocolate Sundays come down on a Tuesday, they're going to be like, you all right?

You must be here for a check. So just to describe them. There's a refried Wednesdays. Yeah, but just so it's, that's Richard Viams brand. I know. Slant in comedy? I'm kidding. That's Edwin San Juan.

That's the Filipinos. You think I'm making it up. Guess what they call white night? What? College night. I swear to God. No way. Yes.

And the weekend's like all-star comedy night where somebody from each one can pop in on a Friday. It's called All-Star. Yeah, but there's never white people in the All-Star game. What do you mean? Look what they're in this. Have you seen it all-star game? We have to do something called the enhanced games. Dirk!

Yeah, but he's German white. He's like, we don't really claim foreign whites. Yeah, that don't count. You know what I mean? Like, Luca's kind of white. But look where the one black show that's, the one produced black show is at the store. What you're describing was the L.A. comedy scene

where there was like a night, there was a black night for all these different days. It was. It's still like that. Yeah, but like. What's jazz? Do you think it has the same cultural impact that it did maybe 10, 15 years ago. Like, I remember

those nights, to be honest, were the only nights that the clubs were sold out during the week. Now you're talking that shit. But like, this is... Okay, then how come industry don't go to those nights? So here's a thing that's interesting to me is that industry did start to go. And then those guys

did start to pop off. And then those guys started to become part of the All-Star lineups. And then all of a sudden, now the mainstream show or the All-Star show, or whatever you call it, Now it's just a kind of normal show where like everybody's involved in it and then that took I think some of the heat

off of the Black Knights. I don't. I think that they went to Black Knights and they didn't grab they grabbed who would say Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, like I'm from Seattle. I see it all. I'm black but in a wildly diverse and or heavily white area. You just see it.

I just see it. So you think they were taking me the crowds are there on Black Knight. Why aren't the cameras? I'm telling you. You just said it. I'm telling you what? For the last 50 years in comedy.

As long as we could perform publicly. Who's been the top five grossing comics? Oh, I mean, yeah, no question. But like... No question of what? Who it's been, like, color-wise? Sure. I mean, in the last few years, maybe it's different.

Facts, you hit the scene. Shane is also absolutely crushing it, you know. And all of that's fine, but I think. But yes, you're talking about Chappelle, right? First of all, everyone is welcome to do Staten. I don't want to be like, oh, I'm a separate. I'm just saying, here's what I see. Yeah.

And then I know my own journey. Well, pull it back even for it because I think this is an interesting. So back in a day with the clubs on the road, there would be like a week and a month that they had like a quote-unquote black comic come in. Yep. From what I've been told, that weekend would pay for the rest of the weeks at the club. I've never heard that before. Wow. Wouldn't doubt it though. Because the whole community would come out.

And again, this is a community thing. Like you've seen it also with like Latinos, you've seen it with Asians. It's like when a community has representation, and I think one of the things that happens is like when whiteness is ubiquitous, you need to be like specific about your white. Like, whiteness doesn't have a culture around. It has like, okay, here's like white nerd culture. here's white angry at women culture here's white blue collar culture here's the what were those guys that did

like uh it was called blue collar comedy tour right so it's like now you need to be like specifically niche within it and I think that's also starting to happen with non whites which I think is very cool right which is like okay here's a black nerd archetype and I'm going to build a fan base around that here's the hood superstar here's the

black like a sophisticate whatever like to me this is the what happens when something becomes bigger than just the niche group. Right, but there's certain acts that are for everyone. Yeah, exactly. But back in the day, it was like one black comic that would come to the club

and the whole community would come out. Trust me, I get it. But what I'm saying is, in the black community, we don't get to have those different, whatever, you're just the black guy. But I think now that's starting to happen. You got on glasses.

You don't see that, you don't see that. You don't see that. Oh, my God. Get them on college side. You need a black, Dimitri Morin. Chocolate Sundays. Yeah.

Basketball tournament. This is a thing. But do you feel like it's changed at all? Or do you think, like, for me, like, you're a perfect example of you building your own audience, people coming out. Now you're doing these venues that, like, maybe would not be afforded to certain people 10 years ago, 20 years ago, they're in your position. And you're just proven through commerce that's basically like they have to come to you if they want people to come to the club. 100%. But that's not my goal.

I'm from a place that's very not black. Right? Like my crowds are 40, 40, and 20, black, white, and then other. Like, I have very diverse crowds. Yeah. Right. I can tell when a club puts me in the, let's market him urban, right? How, how, how?

Well, first of all, there's not enough ranch for the customers that are coming. That's first. I had to tell Gary Advo, it's sex. I had to tell Gary Advo stop ordering chicken and order pepperoni pizza. He's like, yo, I'm so glad you called me and told me that because we were leaning into the chicken order. I said, the crowd's not going to be all black. It affects everything. You don't even think about that.

Because you own a club so you get it now. Yeah. I'm telling you. I know it's hilarious. The club got an order is so funny because I remember early in my career, my crowds were majority black, right? I was doing like damn TV shows and I was doing brilliant idiots with Charlemagne. And I remember having this moment every single weekend. It was my first time in a club where the old.

where the owner or the manager would come to me and he'd basically be like, he'd say like, wow, there's a lot more black people than we thought without saying that? He would, they'd just... It's diverse. Exactly. Look at the diversity.

They say the same thing they need, but they don't know how to say it because when people say diversity, it's white with other things. Black with other things added. It's a cold diversity. That's just called, I guess y'all welcome to the barbecue. He's like, it's like, your show is not.

Funny is funny. You see what I'm saying? Funny is funny, right? Like, and what I saw was, my videos, if I'm interacting with Samoans or white people or a gay couple, that's what I like that pronunciation. I like that. I like that pronunciation right there, the Samoans.

Yeah, Samo. Yeah. He's got everybody. That's the barbecue. Connections. There's a hell of Asians. We call that the luwow. Yeah.

Yeah. But, but. Because if you look on my page, I'm talking to everyone. Yes. I'm looking for the funny in your life, in your life. So that's who's coming because you feel welcome if you see a video. Oh, okay, he's not bashing gays. He's at least talking to us and having fun.

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I'm inclusive in that sense. And so it's a trip when I see that with me as being as inclusive as I am, how I can be marketed because somebody in their mind was like, he's black, run it black. Bro, they're not used to it. It's just like, and it's something that... Who's not used to it?

The clubs, I think. No, it's not that. They think it's the archetype. So they go... Why do they think it's the archetype? No, they're not used to me coming in breaking what they thought was the mold. Facts. No, I can see every time.

It's a part of our advance. We're like, just so you know, you're about to get... We have to. Oh, wow. We have to have it in the events. They're like, hey, there's going to be not black people here. Yes. You have to say that.

Yes, because it affects their liquor order. Try having an Asian headliner. and you don't and you didn't order hell of hands whiskey yeah yeah you're screwed you're like what do you mean you out of bottle so business effect like if people are paying it it affects it right so I can tell when I come and do

13 shows of Brooklyn Improv 98% black even my openers are like what are they doing different because this is very very black I'm like I know what is the club doing different yeah you think that they're promoting you specifically to black people they look at you because then I went and talked to the guy doing market

And he was like, I mean, I mean, you know, who it goes out to? And then like, you're obviously furious because there's only black people there, right? No, people are coming to laugh, man. They're coming to laugh. But if my crowds were normally 40, 40, and 20, and we did 13 shows with just black people. Yeah. There's another 13 with white and there's another six with non-white of people missing. This is what we always said.

I could have done a, I could have, I don't know. What's the garden hold? spend 15,000, 18,000 to pack. I could have tiptoed up to the small configuration. You should do it. You should do it. We should. That way they know everyone's welcome. Listen, yeah.

I mean, I think it's cool what you're doing. Like, it's weird. It's like, we're always the first people to know what our audience is and who we are. And it's like, we can be annoyed at the club for not knowing it. But also, like, they haven't experienced this type of thing in comedy, especially

if you had a comedy club for like 30 years. they don't know what to think, right? I'm sure like when they first had Gary in some of these clubs, they're like, wait, what's going? There's all these black women here? What, what? Like, there was no expectation of Gary to have that

if they're not doing a research. And they do the research on you? Yeah, but look at the researches of his career now. Of course. It's because other is now, even to the crowd he had this whole time. Hmm. He's like doubled up.

Yeah. No. Everybody, Gary, Gary Owen, by, if you, close your eyes, that's a black headliner. If you go off of the audience that's sitting there. If you walk out and had to guess who's performing, the Black Headliner. He's the host of Comic View. Okay.

Now, because of social media and the algorithm and stuff that he's done that different people helped him do and what he's built in the footwork, the algorithm doesn't look at him and say that same thing. The Internet looks at the algorithm goes, this is a white man. Send this stuff to white people. Right, so he's doubled that white audience with black guys.

It is lines. And it's beautiful. The line is checkered all the way down. Right. Right. And same goes for like a Joe Koi. Yeah. Hysterical. Yeah.

But the internet, the algorithm is going to send them to every nurse in the tri-state area. Not just the Filipino. But that's because it is typecasting us. Whoever is at the place. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I can't get, you can't. There's no way to be like, hey, Facebook marketing.

When I say these interests, I don't mean the black people that are interested. sit in that. Let me just put, you know what I'm saying? I'm not going to be running ads to cauliflower fans. What is the key words for how we get to the white folks? Because they like laughing at me. We share funny. We have a good time.

But they look at it and they're like, oh, big black dude. No, put them over there. But I've always dealt with that. I won the Bay Area of Black and they're like, what kind of black are you? I'm from Seattle. But what do you mean you won't a Bay Area Black and who was like, what type of black are you? Memphis black people, Mississippi black people, Florida black people,

New York black people are like, he had different kind of, like, I went to Florida Memorial College as an undergrad, straight out of high school. It was my first time seeing more than two types of black people. Because in Washington, you got, I moved here to raise my children, blacks, and then you got, look, cuss, it is what it is, that's right. Those are the two blacks. Okay? I got to Florida.

Tell us. I mean, there's accents. So then you know what I'm talking about? It's the Caribbean. Yes. I mean, I met Trinidad. The I, Tobago's. I met, I met Jamaicans.

I met Jamaicans from New York. Jamaicans from Jamaica. And they had beef. We call it Oxdale. That's wild. I met Haitians. That was the first time you met black people with an identity. I had a culture shock.

as a black man. But is identity outside of American blackness? Because that's what you're describing with people who have Caribbean heritage. Yeah, but their identity it's like when you meet an Italian, they could be from Jersey, they could be from New York, but they have this identity that is outside of America and outside

of being white in America. And the same thing exists when you meet a Nigerian that grew up here, Jamaican, et cetera. There's like this other culture that is framing their world, the way that they eat, the way that they interact with, they speak. And when you're growing up in Washington, What do you call an Italian from Italy?

Gay, gay, gay guy. He's a gay guy. That's what we call. Okay, the straight ones moved here, and then they're out there making pasta. What do we call in Italian from Italy? Yeah. Yeah, Woppa.

I don't know. What do you call? Sounds like Guinea. A fucking Jenny. She's a wet-ass pussy? What? Yeah, exactly. So,

I think that, like, the fact that we have that, but somebody on the outside is, I'm like, those are the Italians. Well, that was the interesting thing that happened with Sebastian. But do you get that? Yeah, on the outside of go, those are Italians. I would go, those are the Jamaicans. And they're like, Rosklaude. Yeah.

Jamaica, Jamaica. New York, Jamaica. Yes. Yeah. New York, Jamaica, like Southside Jamaican, Queens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Upstate Jamaica. Yes.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Canadian Jamaicans. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But to me, not knowing anything about the culture, I go, that's all the Jamaicans. Yes.

Put them all over there. They can argue inside the truck. They can argue inside the building once they're there. What kinds you are. Yeah. Okay. Italians, you, if you're familiar, you're like, that's a wet-ass pussy one. Yeah.

And then this is a-Jerzy Italian. Okay. Jersey Shore. That's different, right? Brooklyn Italian. That's different. They act different. Yeah.

Okay. So, but I'm sure. That's the Italians. Now, but you know, like, when you grow up in the city, you know that. That's what I said New York is the exception because you guys don't have a choice. Yeah, you just have experience with them. You see people live in other lifestyles. You got to at least get familiar.

Yeah, it's wild, though. So, but even then there's different types of Jewish people. Yes. Right? Yes. But if you don't know, you're like, them to Jews. Right. And they have to tell you like, well, no, I'm a different kind of that.

I'm a acidic, Jewish. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So if that's what it is, then please know it's the same thing for blacks. To be like those are the blacks.

Yeah, yeah. It's chocolate. They don't share. Dominican blacks aren't even black. It takes effort to be like, I'm going to show that I'm not just with the blacks black. I'm going to go out of my way to go to the other nights. I'm going to make a point to not just go where they tell me I'm welcome.

I'm going to go everywhere. And the person that does that does sound, move, talk, and walk different. Maybe it's more cultured or whatever, but they just do. Like, I see a cultural difference between, Kat Williams, and Chris Rock. Of course. Yeah. Right?

There's somebody pulling some strings that doesn't. They're blacks. You also didn't see it until you went to school in Florida. Facts. So it's an education process. Which I'm not knocking at. But I think that... And you're the education process for a lot of these people.

I'll take all of that. But if you own a comedy club for 30 years, if you're in the industry, there's no excuse. Well, there's also racism. I don't know. There's also racism. Like all of that to get back to explain. Yes, it is. When you're asking for Friday, Saturday, and they're like, but you're black, we're going to put you on Sunday.

Yeah, you're Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday. You guys go during the week, you sell it the whole thing and it pays for the whole month. The deals are different, too. Interesting. For sure. You weren't just getting a whole door, even when you did during the week? Who? You? Like, if I threw my own show?

If you were doing like a weeknight, they would obviously give you the majority of the door. By the time I was eligible for door deals, yeah. But then you're doing weekends anyway, and then you just. Yeah, but there's some leapfrogging that happened with me and the internet, but I own a club. I own the biggest black-on comedy club of America at 280 seats. I get the calls from the agents that are like, do you want this person?

I wish I could say names that you would understand. They're like, here is African-American female beast for X amount. I'm like, that's doable. Also, if you have a weekend open for unknown, never heard of white guy, 85%. Interesting. And then what do you have to say? Are you out of your mind?

You're paying her that and him that? Why wouldn't you be offering me his deal for her? That person has 30 years in comedy. That person is hysterical. That person's, like, what's the difference? Yeah. And it's not even about asses and seats. You just got this person's 30-year career set up to be half-papered forever.

Wow. Interesting. Even though that person's a draw, and you know that that person's going to sell it matter where they go. It's not about selling out at that point. I mean, for... I know my guy wasn't no draw. They're like, let's grow it together. Oh, wow. So even the way that they're marketing clients to you.

You don't even know it. Holy shit. People don't realize it. And that's what I'm saying. When I'm sitting here talking, I'm not, I could easily just be like, oh man, he's all wound up. Or I could literally be seeing this shit every day. And then when I go into the city and I see a hundred percent black audience, I'm like, somebody missed something. Or if it's all white. I'm like, okay, we went too hard the other way. Like, I did it, where do you look at flyers?

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Wayfair, every style, every home. Hearing this is refreshing, but it's just interesting. Like, my trajectory with the business. I came before they were defining what pocket to put you in. That's the thing. And so it's like, you know what I found out? Yeah. Matt Reif, you were his impetus.

He saw you posting the videos and he was like, I'm going to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was mine. He came to my club. He didn't sell one year and the next year he did and then he was, I said,

what did you do? He was like, get on TikTok. Yeah. That was it. Yeah. That's the rest of me. But yeah.

So, thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was yours? Who's, who's this, who's the start of this? Let's tell myself and put it online. Did you see someone do something?

Russ. Russ, the musician. Really? I thought you were going to say Russell Peters. No, I mean, shout of Russell Peters. And Russell Peters gave me a glimpse. So, like,

Early in the career, it was basically like I want to make it through like the traditional ways, whatever. Get a premium blend, get a fucking Comedy Central, a half hour, all those things. I was never, you know, given any of those opportunities. Me too, but they wouldn't put me on the channel. Exactly. I go on Black Entertainment television. So I couldn't even get on that. Right.

Well, I did. I got an MTV2, which was basically Black MTV2. They just didn't want to say it like that. And it was awesome. And we got all these crazy things. And then I did the pod with Charlemagne and Charlemagne was just the fucking man. and like, you know, all of this is downstream from him, by the way. But, like, I, you know, I was able to kind of build up a little audience online,

and then there was some maybe residual of the MTV stuff. But I was never, like, really selling out with the MTV stuff. Okay. Tried to do one more shows, like, for Vice or something. I was like, if this should don't work out, I'm putting everything online. And I put out a special that I couldn't sell anywhere online. And then the next weekends, I, like, sold out a club, but it was like paper sell out. Either way they came.

Bro, you know back in a day, if the room was full, I move the needle. And plus the people don't know anyway. They have no idea. They're the only ones to pay five free to hunt. They're the only ones to think that they didn't pay. Yeah, each one is like, I got a deal. Exactly.

So I put it out and then I saw Russ doing this thing where he put out a song a week. I saw that too. And I was like, I don't know how long his run was, but he was on it. He was on it. And I was like, I'm not working hard enough. So I started putting, I was like, I'm going to do 52 weeks of comedy. And for every week, I put out a new clip. And I was just cutting him myself a lot.

Same. And captioning was a bitch So at first I didn't understand captioning And then we figured out The idea was basically like Most people are watching this shit on the subway or the bus So they can't put it loud You know they can't have the volume on unless they're Puerto Rican

I'm like they're sneaking at work I figure they're sneaking at work So I'm like okay we need to at least engage them so much So there's other things that we started to like find You know different things something's happened by accident Like when we were doing to turn your phone videos We just didn't want to re-edit the whole shit vertical. So we were just like, turn your phone.

And it was so funny, like, the way that people reacted. They were like, they found an engagement hack. When you turn your phone, you can't scroll. And we were like, oh yeah, that's what we did. But anyway. I thought that was so ingenious. That was Mark and I and Alex and just like just locked in the fucking room. And shout of Robbie Slovic.

But like, we just put out, we just put out content and then things started to build. And it built in the coolest way because it just sent it to people who fuck with the comedy. Were you jellip prompted for those? For when I did the turn your phones? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it had to be. It was just too bad. I was like, how big is this motherfucker's brain? I was sitting on my toilet like, God,

this had a lot of words. Very small brain. But yeah, it was like, anyway, putting the stuff out there and then all these different people got to access the content. So when I did hit the road, it wasn't this like, hey, let's build this act together like they used to, you know, kind of like pitch the clubs back in the day. We were able to get people in.

They still do it. But then you got diversity right away. Because you got the internet that's like, I like this guy. Exactly. Yeah. And I hate to say, but the internet doesn't see color unless we literally make an effort to show. Yes. And if you don't force them to, everybody's just going to come to your stuff.

Because you're watching it all in private. Yep. And even if you're a little old white lady and your whole community, there's no black people. Yeah. In that, would you get into the right algorithm, you're like, this is my. thing. So then when that person's coming to town, here's a little white lady. He had a

show where you were like, okay, I did a show in a theater. They had another theater. William Shatner was there. Okay. The staff was like, literally couples were coming up and they're like, you guys going to see William Shatner? Yeah, they're like, wow. You know, they're going to see Nate Jackson. Yeah, yeah. You guys

go, like, my manager's assistant's dad and his girlfriend came. These are like really old wife. They just came up and they just started guiding them to William Shatner. Yeah. Like through both lobbies. I'm like, where are you sitting? They're like, we're here for Nate Jackson. Like, really?

Oh, well, go back that way. Follow the blacks. Like that. And so that's the most genuine form of it. I agree. But what I am concerned with a little bit is like now that there's so much content on the internet, not just stand up, in an effort to get it to the right people, the algorithm gets more sophisticated. And then I think you lose a little bit of the diversity.

like the algorithm doesn't take a chance like it used to where they would just send a clip that you did to Filipinos that got nothing to do with Filipinos but they're like they like stand-up so they'll probably like this thing. Now I think it's getting so specific that it might send it to the exact group people they think will like it

and then you lose a little of this cool flavor of somebody experienced something that had nothing to do with them they actually enjoy. So I'm like, there's a little part of me that goes like does everything just become heightened in a specific niche, especially in this time. Yes.

Are you noticing the same thing? Yes. You put out a lot of... Yeah. I put out like 40... I don't know. I'm putting out something between... Probably three hours and...

Somewhere between three and four hours of material a month. It's crazy. It's going out. Yeah. Wow. It's the volume is... Wow. And so I know it's getting niched off.

Right. You know what I'm saying? You feel it, right? Yeah. But I make an effort to be like... we're posting the fishing video we're posting the video with the amputee we're posting the video with the gay couple

like oh interesting so you're actively fighting back against where the algorithm wants to send you I'm paying attention to what the internet's doing and I'm adjusting my set which is what we all do right like you saw I sat down on stage I used to very physical because the biggest

physical guy big old just running around me and akin to like a Rodney Perry and then I ran out of the video I ran out of the damn screen I ran off camera two three times I'm like let me sit my fat ass down so then I sat

on the stool and that's why they're like does he even stand up right because I didn't have people I just had a tripod I set it in the back when I ran off and nobody was there to be like get back between those lines now it's different but yeah I remember those days

and you got the tripod on the back half the clip got like a server's clattern air and she ain't even serving she's just like watching the show yeah yeah she can't be upset in the way the people laughing and the camera shaking yes you know like this is but this was at a different time in the internet

where like rough things were really valued because people thought that they were almost stealing they're like I get to watch staying up for free I can only watch it on HBO I can only watch that on Comedy Central yeah and then we were serving yeah not to get caught up in nostalgia but like There is a beauty to the roughness of it.

I always think about, like, how do we bring a version of that back where it feels heightened, but it has that intimacy of the early days? I thought of a couple ways. Talk to me. Stop bagging up phones and encourage them to film. Bro. I want you guys to start filming when you leave home. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Film from the house. Like, make a vlog. And I want to see it from your little dirty. angle with the fat guy's ear and your shot and all that. Like, you're just getting it out. Like, you know, because we're, we're doing table kills. Like, you'll take that table out, that table out,

put the tripod right there. There is no way someone's in the way. But if you're like, just, like, getting gully with it, like, you take and you guys all air drop it to this MacBook before you leave. And then you got this wild footage from all over. Aren't you worried about losing material? Because I know you're doing a lot of crowd work, but like, you obviously have to.

That's the conversation. We have a lot. I don't, I don't, I don't Post jokes. I don't. But I have, like my set right now, I'm trying to get it back down. But it's, I'm doing like 88 minutes on average right now. Wow. And so there's like 35, 40 of just, I just come out on their ass, pause. Now are they?

And then I'll open it up to crowd work. But are they? So basically, whatever you give people is their expectation for you. So if you give people crowdwork, they're going to go, okay this whole show is going to be crowdwork oh they're for sure online being like all he does is crowdwork and people like go to a show it's way more no I'm saying when they show up

yeah I've had that too and are they upset when they don't see it no because they get it got it it's not like it's not like me doing my material keeps it here and then I go all right crowd work and then we come up here your material is conversational in the same no I'm ripping I am sweating wet wiping my brow and then I'm like are you motherfuck's ready for some crowdwork

after that then they're like oh like the other night a guy was like, look at that wasn't the crowdwork? Yeah. But he didn't even realize I'm just, I came out. Yeah. I'm trying to, that's that hunger, that young, you know, when you're like, I got to kill, I got to kill.

I still have that. And now it's a chip to where I'm like, okay, y'all think the crowdwork is, how can that possibly be better than something I that I lit that twice? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, how can it be raw? Like, if it's the second time I said it, I'm trying to channel how I said it so that it felt as authentic the first time.

Right. The crowdwork is the most authentic Purist form of stand-up Period Otherwise you're just You're just You're a teleprompter Yeah

Do you get them saying? Yeah The pushback The pushback I would say Is that like I don't think that a joke you really believe And care about

Is inauthentic I think that I don't create that moment But I wouldn't say that's pushback I'd say that's just A different conversation Yeah If we're talking about material

Bet Yeah. Like you're talking, let's say the material is about your father, right? Like, how can that be inauthent? Exactly. Right? Right. But if you talk to somebody and right there, they tell you they have Alzheimer's and then you are pulling from your, yeah, of course.

What you know about it and make it. I think people not crowdwork and I don't think it's fair. I think there's a lot of frustration around comics who maybe they don't, there's one, a lot of shitty crowdwork out there, but there's also a lot of shitty just jokes out there. Yeah. But like, I also think that there's a lot of comics who, like, they just don't feel inclined to talk. to the audience, they're really not curious about the audience and they're maybe not good at it, but they see crowdwork

as the way to succeed. So there's like a little resentment maybe for it. But I think if you're genuinely curious about the audience and you enjoy the interaction, you shouldn't shy away from it, like, because some people are being critical of it. I feel the same way about impressions.

Some people like hate impressions. They're like, it's not stand-up. It's cool, but it's not a joke. But then there are some people that do impressions that have jokes built into it brilliantly. you're like, that's unbelievable. So I just think there's levels to all these different styles of comp. People are going to get money.

I think people are upset or frustrated by crowdwork just because they see so many clips of them. Like those are the clips that people are putting out more than their actual. Because that's what you can recreate. You can't put four hours of jokes out every week. So now people are just like, oh, this is what everybody does now. Well, that's what I was tempted to do. Because, like, I like how Josh Johnson is like, I'm going to focus on this one thing and lock in. It's unbelievable.

And just pin game in. It's all good. He has a writer's table. I don't get me fuck. I don't think Josh does. I'm sure it's all him, but I'm just talking shit. But I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, on what flight did you write that hour?

Well, here's what he has that you don't have is autism. And that allows you to lock in and put the pen to paper for seven straight days for an hour of new material about it. It's unbelievable. Yeah, we were asking him like, yeah, how do you do it? And he was like, that's just all I think about. He told us. He has like, I just spent the whole week. week working on it. He also said he has like memory

tricks to remember it. Like he was like I create these like memory loops in my brain. He's like I'll think of a word that's the first letter of each chunk and I go through the word and hit all the letters. Oh like nionically. Yes. So he'll do a set list. It's um cars,

women turtles and he memorizes CWT. Yeah exactly. Something like that. People do that for scripts too. Right. Yeah. That's basically And he's got a script that he got to remember every week. Right.

But even when I'm like breaking down sides and stuff, we're about to go acting to a scene. And I'll take the most powerful word from each, whatever, each block. And then I'll remember it. Right. You need triggers. It's miraculous. There's somebody out there that goes, another black.

Should we rip some feelings of facts? Yes, let's rip some feelings of facts. Have you? seen the enhanced games, people online are panning it. But basically it is a... Do you know what it is the enhanced game? I just bought stock in it. Is you really? Are you shitting me? No, not good.

I did it. Not good. I mean, it's just like a... They're just trying to pump up peptides, right? Like, that's all this. That's not peptides. Well, they're trying to get people to... What I imagine is, is like, the people who are owning the enhanced games are also like deeply invested in all these pharmaceuticals

that like help you... Is that today? Yeah, that's in the red. My boy. I don't know. How much is that drop, though? 40%. Oh, just 40. Yeah, but what's the monetary value of it? Right now it's trading at, what is that, like $3.

$3.18? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I should buy more right now. You buy the dip. For anyone that doesn't know, this is an Olympics that is basically you can use steroids. Enabling and accepting.

But you can't really use steroids. So there's all these restrictions in it. Like, your testosterone can't be over 2,000. Because there's liability. Like, if you just get juice to the gills and someone dies, then it's on you. You can't even use BPP was it BPC 157 so there's all these peptides you can't even use and then the worst thing that could have possibly happened is the dude that didn't use any steroids in one of the swimming race is won. That also happened with a sprinter as well. So it's like what you want is a guy who just ran in high school to get on juice.

Yeah, but that's what we watched. I say the opposite. So you got a bunch of average joes juiced up keeping up with a pure athlete. Like this guy was just on his couch two weeks ago But these guys aren't average dose These guys are elite guys That lost to a dude that's not even on steroids So they're elite as well

Yeah But what made them elite? They're like former Olympians Or they're like high level Like this guy was a former Olympian But the drug Look at all that meat I come off his back

That's drugs Yeah that's the drugs Right And without that But imagine what do you look like Without any of that muscle mass Just an accountant No because he was an Olympian

Before all that muscle mass Yeah What colors below bronch? I guess the point is, like... He won, though. Did this guy win? I can't, I don't know specifically. Yeah, he won like a porpoise.

No, but I don't like the fact that they put limitations on this shit. Just let us go. You can't. Because they'll die. Yeah. Like all these waylifting dudes die at 40. So we watch UFC fights. Sammy so-so is white now, bro.

Like, they get carried out. I think that's a before and a half. But I'm just saying, we watch you. We watched. He went from Deadpool to this? Yeah. Yeah. So Fred Curley ran 100 meter in 9.97.

I saw that. But how old is this guy? How old was he in the picture on the left? Because that says 20, isn't that 2008? What is that behind it? Which Olympics is this? I don't know which one that is. I can find out, though.

He looks a lot older in the face on the right. Yeah, I mean, steroids will do that a little bit. Yeah. Starros will age you. Now, if he's only six months, different. I'll be like, okay, too shit. But the claim was that these were going to smash all the records. And I think

this guy even said, like, you know, give me a million bucks, I'll juice to the gills and I'll break the room. Well, that was the thing. If you break a record, you get a million bucks. I think a couple guys might have did it or like one guy did. There was one swimmer that did it, I think with the swimsuit that was banned in 2008. So that's not even you. And so it's not nationally, it's not recognized by

any governing body, even the ones that would acknowledge a steroid one. Because they're like, well, the swimsuit plus the steroids, and then he just beat it. So I was talking to his trainer, he basically said The problem is, is like, the elite guys don't get that much benefit from steroids because they're already genetic freaks. Now we're saying the same thing. Yeah. Whereas like the regular guys, like us, if we got on juice, maybe we get closer to those guys, not on juice.

You're still seeing shoulder blades and butt cheeks, but you're way closer to Hussein Bolt. Yeah, yeah. Right. And I think even the people in like the 100 meter, for example, like he ran a 9.97. Yusain Bolt was like a 9.5 something or something like that. But I think like the high school Texas state championship would have still beat this guy. So it's like, yeah, but there. Any better steroids guys.

Exactly. But also now people are saying that the regular Olympics, as an allegation, is also the steroid Olympics. Yes. Without getting caught. Yes. What is it? They say you start the cycle and you get off of it within enough time where it doesn't come up in any samples. They try to test.

It's not like boxing that they can just test them randomly? don't think they test all year. So they stay out of the testing pool. And then there's like a, you know, a few months or whatever it is. Now, these guys are all always in a tournament if you're doing it, but the Olympics is once every four years. So there's probably a way to get as juiced up as possible, get it out the system. And then when you're in the Olympics, you're already on it. So people are saying this is the, the Olympics is like the enhanced games with the most elite athletes, whereas the enhanced games is the second tier most elite athletes with steroids. Yeah. So they're like, hey, we're just telling you we're enhanced.

Yeah, exactly. The Olympics is enhanced. Yeah, exactly. That's what people are saying. So they're like, the Olympics is already the enhanced games. And this is kind of proving that to some people, then other people are going the other way saying,

nah, this proves that steroids doesn't do anything in the face of elite. That's silly. You can look at a person on Roids and be like, golly, there's changes. It does something. Yeah. Oh, it makes you look amazing. Yeah.

But the enhanced game isn't who looks the best. But I think people are saying like... Which I get. But we're taking average people and turning them into my... monsters and then letting them go out there with gifted people who... Well, they're not even average. These people are like Olympic competitors.

No, they were. That guy is way younger on the left than he is now. I would love to see the difference in age. Plus, the Olympics, do you train four years? It's not eight or your whole entire life. And this seems like they're like, hey, man, we're about to do enhanced games a six months. Get your needles.

You know what I'm saying? They got to just do it with us. They have to take people who are at most high school athletes and then pump them full of shit and see how competitive they can be. And I think some of them are still happy with this. So like the dude, Curley, I've read his name, or Fred Curley. Like, I think for a regular event, he might win like 20 grand if he wins 100 meter or whatever. He, I think he won like 250,000. You did. Wow. So even for him to not break a world record to just show up and beat everyone at these enhanced games, he still got a

crazy payday. Yeah. So for him, he's like, yeah, I'll do it. Where's his aired? I know. It was completely private. Oh, really? He was invite only. He was invite only. So how to fun the day? This is why I bet I was like, I'm betting that. Because as soon as they have tickets for sale, who wouldn't want to go see a human teradactal doing gymnast stuff?

And then people were even saying that this dude started like sinking the water, I'm pretty sure. Like that was like what people like... He wasn't buoyed? Yeah, because he's like so muscle-distance. He was jumping in the water and like sinking. So to a certain extent, like all this extra muscle mass might be a detriment when it comes to like moving through the water.

Oh, wow. But if they figure out the right regimen for a swimmer, It's over with. Yep. Unless they've already figured it out, and that's what they do in the Olympics. What else we got? Interesting. Maybe.

What else we go? Okay, there's a couple other things right here. Hold on. Let me pull this up. There's a guy on Fox News that was allegedly wearing a mask. Yeah, this is crazy. Did you see this? I think the neck was loose.

Yeah. Here, I'll pull it up right here. This is a... But why are we saying allegedly? We all saw the neck. Well, he wasn't wearing a mask. Well, it's difficult to. said. So this is the clip to

him and borrow. Does he have a smoking thing? He's in the position to demand those. So I think in that sense he controls the narrative and when he would strike. So you see the neck part here. Yeah, so we're saying that's a skin flap? So you see, people see this video, plus

they also see Fox News having a history of bringing on people that might not be the people that they're interviewing. So like there's been a bunch of clips where it's like former Antifa member talks about how they're going to destroy cities and it's just like a dude with a mask. And they're like, oh, this is just like an actor, someone that they brought in to like... Really?

Yeah, to like talk crazy shit. So that's what the whole allegation is, and everyone's kind of run with the story, that this is a guy wearing a very realistic mask. But now people have come out, specifically this guy, Captain Disillusionment. He says this is called like a double shadow. This guy rules, by the way.

If he watches YouTube videos, he breaks down... Dr. Disillusion breaks down a lot of stuff on the internet. He's very cool. So he's saying that you have lighting in the studio coming from above, that creates this, lighting coming from below that creates that. And then in certain effects, when you put them together, it will create a shadow from his neck, from the collar on his shirt.

On to his neck. Let's go back. That's a mask, bro. It's probably a white table. Nah. And people are saying that's a shadow coming from the bottom of a shirt, interfering with the shadow coming from the top. Nope.

Nope. If he had eyebrows, maybe, but no. Right. That's a lizard. It might be a lizard, bro. It doesn't help that he looks like a mask anyway. It is. And they didn't even finish it.

Like, they didn't give him hair. They didn't give him any sort of like, yeah, not a single wrinkle. They got seven years old. Like, there are other issues with this 100%. Yeah. That's not shadows, man. It's too crispy. Right?

So this is what people have been online and debated. But I don't know. He sounds like he's wearing a mask. Like, those are new lips. That's how it's saying. But now, the only thing that makes me think it isn't is that if you were wearing a mask, you would have a turtleneck on. Like, you wouldn't unbutton three buttons because you know you're wearing a fucking mask. He's supposed to be buttoned up.

Somebody's like, we got to mic you up. It has to be outside of your thing. And he's like, well, I'm a rat. So how do you want to navigate this? But it seems like these are an obvious mistake that even if you're running some type of sciop to cover someone up, I'm like, I feel like you would fix that. Unless that's what they want us to think, Mark. That's a mistake. That's a mask. So you're saying mask?

That's definitely a bad. I'm not convinced. I think it could be a double shadow. Oh, did Epstein kill himself also? Come on, man. And then go viral? Hey, that is not me. This guy's not had eye around since 2011. I'm trying to find a whole photo.

Oh, he's fine a good one. Do you got his knack in 2011, though? Okay. Thomas Massey loses his seat in Congress. I don't know if you saw this. Nate, what do you think about that? I don't know what we're talking about. Well, there's this guy who's.

basically saying, like, we should expose all the people that were, you know, involved in the Epstein stuff, and he's like, why are we going into this war in Iran? And he's like, why are we ballooning the budget? And then people were like, that guy seems like an asshole. We shouldn't vote for him. Yeah.

He was a whistlebower, basically. Not even. He was just proponent for Epstein transparency. And he just went against Trump's agenda. Where? In Kentucky. Kentucky. It wasn't even it was a primary. It wasn't even the main election.

So they just brought this guy out of nowhere. I've never even heard. Is that a guy? Ed Gallerine or something like that. Really? Yeah. Ed's whole thing was like, yeah, let's not expose anything about Epstein and let's send your kids the diner on and let's pull him in the bucket. And then people in Kentucky were like, that guy sounds like an American, dude.

That's a real patriot. Yeah. And Trump kind of blew up this whole thing in like a small local election in Kentucky into like this national news story and use his leverage to get him out. And all these lobbyist groups spent fucking millions of dollars. He brought national. Yeah, yeah, Trump's going hard being like we've got to get Massey out of here. Because Massey is a Republican but votes against the party a lot.

Oh, well, yeah. That's what time it is. He votes against a party in times where he should. Yeah. But they don't want, they don't want it. He doesn't want anybody to be pushing for. Exactly. So, yeah, where I can get you out, I get you at.

But they just spent so much money. They spent $30 million on this fucking. In the little primary. In a primary, not even the main election. For who's going to be the Republican candidate? Yeah, that's insane. And as groups, they got nothing to do with it. I don't like that.

The packs don't even have nothing to do with Kentucky. All the packs. And the packs aren't even, they're not even pushing the agenda of the pack. They're just being like, yeah, this guy is an asshole. I didn't, I, what I think is interesting is, like, if I'm gigging and I'm, like, in a place, I will actually, like, be exposed to it to see how ridiculous it is. But, like, now it just sounds crazy shady to me. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So now people are very disillusioned. Like anyone that had any symbols of hope Where they're looking at a Thomas Massier like a Roe Con to be like These guys are fighting a good fight Yeah The second they do it

He's more dangerous now though Oh what are you going that Because now he's his own He's his own boss Yeah That's not his boss anymore By way of how politics is set up You can make way more noise outside of politics

So he could keep talking his shit Without the restrictions of the government Martin Luther King Jr. wasn't no senator He was not a mex And people say he's gonna run in 28 For president Yeah that's interesting be way more agitating if you're not in the system.

That's interesting. That's a good point. And he seems like successful on his own right, like before politics. He went to like MIT. Went to MIT. Started and sold his own tech company, independently wealthy. Now he can really focus on agitating. Yeah.

Right? Like he was doing his job and being an agitator. Now just agitist. Just agitated. And you got the information because you were on the inside. Like you knew who the Epstein client list was. I heard him say he was going to say before he left, which would be fire. Yeah, his final day.

He was going to drop the bomb before you like, say the names. Yeah. He was like, Jesse Handler was there. Yeah, he said on his final day he's going to like out it all. Because he's also in all these closed hearings. Yeah. Hearing all the real shit. They're like, I think he went through all the unredacted files and all that stuff.

Yeah. So it'd be interesting to see. Light it up, man. Light it up. Colbert officially had his final episode. Did you watch? No. Not when it was ever. Nope.

Did you ever do a late night? No. Was that ever a dream of yours? Yes. Really? I've liked my own late night show. Oh, but that's different. Did you ever want to do like five minutes as a comedian?

Yeah. And who was your goal growing up? Like, what did you want to do that, five minutes on? Well, I was watching, you know, like Johnny because I was just a kid. How old were you watching Johnny? We watched reruns. You don't watch reruns and stuff? The reruns of late night?

No, Carson was a different thing. So I've watched clips. There's a phenomenon. Like, you could do five minutes on his show. And if he says, come over to. to the couch, the next day everything is different. Oh, really? Because there was four channels. It was like 25 million people

watching every episode. I think when he got married, they filmed it or something like that. I think he got like 50 million people. The last episode got 50 million people. That's like a quarter of the country at the time. Yeah. Like these are insane numbers. That's like small Super Bowl numbers. Yeah. But I wanted to do

Fallon just so that I can rock out with like the roots or something after it. feels pretty inviting. You can sing too. Yeah, not now, though. Why would happen? I just lost my voice yelling, 13 shows.

Oh, not now meaning this day. Yeah. But like your vocal cords aren't fucked up forever or nothing. No. I saw some clip. I saw a clip of you when you were saying, and like you actually have a great voice. Yeah, I grew up in. Did you grow up in the church?

Tenor. Oh, wow. Yeah, I could sing. I have two songs. I put out. No way. Yeah. They're both about pretty much

eating coochie, but one of them's got it. I got featured. One of them's got two short and zero from Texas, and then the other one has Twister.

And so I was like, I should keep going. Because it is possible to be a number one. You can make a number one. Lou Doevo? I was just going to ask you, is this like fun comedic songs

like Duvall? No, I'm talking about seriously eating cooceece. Nothing funny about it. just see like this is called beat it up okay I can't play that in church beat up that Lord

beat up that yeah but yeah so the other ones called a cookie monster remix but we don't have to make this spot

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Thepeople.com slash flagrant or dial pound 529 and let them know. know that we sent you. This is a paid advertisement. Now, let's get back to the show. Were you inspired by Duval coming up? I'm inspired by everybody coming up. Everyone. Yes. There wasn't a single person that didn't inspire you? I'm just, okay.

But I find inspiration in that too. Honestly, with me on the club and even running nights or whatever, like, I see people that have, like, where the vices have taken over, their brains. And I'm like, inspiration. Yeah, don't do that. Exactly. But Duval did your club, right?

Yeah, two or three times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Duvall is a huge inspiration for me, like big OG for me. Like, he's another person and I should have brought him up around left. But when were you with him? I mean, the guy code days. I don't do it all forever. Oh, facts.

Yeah, so. Like, I fucks with him. He was the guy to me that I saw doing comedy on the internet. Like Russ did the model, but he did comedy on the internet. He was like the soldier boy for comedy. Yeah, I mean, like he just knew audience and knew how to get things out to people, knew how to communicate with the audience constantly. And still does.

Still does brilliantly. I think he just throws a bunch of shit against the wall because he's just high and having fun. But every now and I don't know if I have anything to do with it or if he's already masterminded this shit. But like how he's sitting there squatting in front of that waterfall right now. Like a couple months back, he just did one fucking round. And I was like, more of this, then throw your own camp flognaw.

And now it looks like it's happening. But he's been doing a camp duval for a while. Yeah, I know. But it didn't feel like that. Well, he didn't get that property until recently. Right. Either way, I'm a fan of it. I'm a fan of, you know,

being your own boss. You know, I mean, he's flying a little, he has his own little planes and all that stuff. Yeah. He flew to your show. Yeah, he came when we were doing Jacksonville. Yeah. He came.

But, like, just his understanding of the game, like, he may be, even one of the smartest people I've ever met in terms of just, like, understanding human condition. Yes. And, like, pure. absorption, right? It's not like he got the chance to go to some fucking fancy school where you just study it all day.

He literally watches people and sees through them what they actually want, no matter what they say, what they actually want. And he's just a genius, man. He's just a fucking genius. Yeah. I do you. Oh, you remember this?

I'll leave you my number. And you better call a nigger today. As a matter of fact, You just give me yours too And bitch, I call you Instead of you bitch Because who you think you just misslays Boo boo written on my phone head

I don't bought them drinks But she is my girlfriend I don't want it That she thought you just came up To have a nice time out And just chill What a ledge Go.

That's so funny. Yeah, he came twice. And what I thought was the most, he did something really dope, right? Because he came from Florida, he brought like Erica Duchess, nod, and I didn't realize that none of them had seen snow.

So he got like a rental car and they drove to Mount Rainier. I love it. And it was like spring or summer. And he posted a view of them throwing snowballs. I was like, where did he go? Where did he go to find snow? He went to the mountain.

Like actually white, let's go. let's go to it. Duval can find snow anywhere. He figures it out. He's like, he's also like the most traveled dude ever. Like he's everywhere. Before it's hot.

Like when he stops going, that's when it will get hot. Right. Like it's, yeah, like every vacation. He's there beforehand. He's always there before.

And you can never like surprise him with a location. Oh yeah, I was there and they got some really good chicken wings. That's the other thing. He eats fast food whenever he travels. Yeah. And like we were doing like some MTV award. Because he can trust it.

Mm-hmm. And I'm like, we're in Germany, dude. Why don't we just go have some fucking German food? He goes, man, I don't trust this shit. And I'm like, dude, we're not in fucking Thailand. Like, this is Germany. Literally, everyone on the crew except him got sick. And he was like at McDonald's like, listen, I know, I travel.

This is good for you guys. I know what happens out here. Yeah. Yeah. But what I thought was the dope was part of it, wasn't this he just went and found snow. That I knew he was cultured enough. Oh, to go look for it. He's snowboards.

Yeah. No, it was that he wanted to show. his opener's that. Like he took a whole day, spent whatever. Y'all get in the car, I want y'all gonna see and nods country have like, God damn, they get married, like, god damn, dog, and shit.

My niggum, my cuck, my hands shodding the cubs. It was like a fucking upward bound trip with the inner city kids. They came, and they showed them to the club, like, man, I show a quarry, my eye, and I was like, no shalade, man, what do I really?

a little fuck, man. Anybody call him a fuck, nigga, I'm a kennel, man. I'm telling you. I remember I went to his place in the Bahamas, and he took me to just like a... He has a place in the Bahamas? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's where he flies back and forth. That's one of the places he'll go back and forth. And like, and, first of all, it's funny, like, his level of clout in the Bahamas. Like, I came there with, like, cameras and shit, because I was doing this, like, little vlog with him,

and I just wanted to, like, experience life with him, whatever. And they stopped us at Cust. And they're like, you can't take cameras into the country. Like, you need, like, a permit for this. And I was like, I was like, man, I'm just going to hang out with a little doable. And I swear to got the customs person was like, all right, yeah, you know. Turn up.

Only film him. Oh, yeah, this is it. Oh, that's, wow. Look how clear that water is. This is recent. I was narred. You have to understand. Like, he's taking me to places.

And I'm like, there's no way I'm jumping in that pit. Yeah, this is this pit. He's like, he had to jump in. You're going to be good. And he won't do it first. He won't do it to trust his word. Like, if he jumped, he'd be like, all right, if I can, let's go. Look, I get it.

In the tree, you know, man, it's like, come on, man. So you just want to go. Yeah, use the rope. I don't like how that rope looks. I'm just bullshit. That is Shane Gillis' rope? Man, it's not too cold. It's age of the green.

How deep is you're thinking it? How deep is it? It's about 50. You're not gonna touch the bottle. I just want to put a little more water in it. That's right. Some color? Man, no, I say,

there's not somebody here. There's somebody coming. Hey, there's not. There's somebody going. Nobody know your white ass here on this black ass out. No one's I say Chelsea. You don't want to be?

Maybe they'll go first. Maybe we'll just make sure that no one. It's not weird that nobody is here? It's not weird to nobody but you? Why would you? the only ones of this beautiful shit, bro. Come on. Because I don't let everybody know where it said.

Jump! Jump! This is hysterical. Bitch, we've been ready. Jump! Yeah. He did it! He did it!

He did it! He didn't. He never put a blood down. Now you got to climb the wall with crabs on you. Tell me that fucking part. You didn't tell me that shit at all. Oh, man. What day of the week is this?

It's the weekday, obviously. Yeah. We work, so. But this is years ago, man. Yeah, but he's got that part figured out. Like, that right there, this is inspiration. I have, I have to have more fun. I'm a...

He's going to live his life. I'm a work hobby. You're going to work... I'm the same way, but it's like, if you don't live, you got nothing to talk about. Facts. And, like, he will prioritize live in his life and enjoying shit.

And he'll just be on a doc. on his property smoking weed looking at the fucking stars just enjoying shit getting emotional looking at the stars he had me just sitting there

with him looking at the stars I don't smoke maybe I should like He didn't either You know he didn't do it He didn't smoke or drink Or anything like that I don't think he drinks anymore

But he didn't smoke And then one day he's like Yeah I think I'll smoke now It's the most fascinating person But I've watched people do it And then they get off track You need to have Discipline in terms of like

What you're gonna do Or you have to be the type person I can smoke and then still do stuff, which I think he is. He is, I can't. I'm a vegetable. I'm a vegetable. You can do shit.

You smoke, you made a whole play out of a lamp. Oh, yeah. I took an edible when we were in Portland and then I started recreating the Pixar theme with the lamp. Okay. You know how the... But you made the lamp a character too?

The lamp was the character in Pixar. And I thought it was the funniest shit ever. I literally, I was like, I think I got five new minutes, bro. And then the next day they showed me a video of me And I was like, man, I'm retarded. Like, I am the most retarded. I could never do weed again.

Oh, I was so perfect. I wonder. People tell me it matters which one you do, right? Like, they say end the couch. Yeah, I know. I'm always in the couch. I never smoked weed and I got energy. Yeah, one time I did a sativa and I was creative,

but everything that I made up was like trash. Yeah. But it was hilarious in it. So I understand. Yeah. But there's people that are just like always, they're always on it, always up. And I just kept, like, my uncle's like that.

My entire life, I've never seen him sober. You're saying, like, he can still be functional and he's own. Yeah, he owns a landscape and architect company. Like, but I've literally never seen him not high. He's always been high. I mean, that is the type of company to own if you, if you like, yeah, grass out there pushing the motor shit. But he still has to negotiate and go get paid and do all the things and run a business.

But I've just, I'm telling you, my whole life, I'm really kind of having an epiphany right now. never seen Dennis, not high. Wow. You got to do a weekend with Duval in the Bahamas, man. Really? It's weird to say, but it's just like he's like a Sherpa in a way. Like you just talk to him for like two hours and your mind would be fucking blown.

Just a wise guru. Also, like no judgment. Like anything that you think. Yeah. There's not, you know, some people are kind of like critical or like judging. Yeah. He will assess it through you being honest about that feeling. And then you feel incredibly comfortable sharing.

Yeah. because you're not worried about being judged for this thing that you're failing. Right. Like he might disagree with him. He may like, oh, that's from this. But he won't be like, you're bad because of that. I think if you say certain things, he might be like, I can't go for that. He can't do.

He absolutely would. No, but I like Little Duvall. He's one of the people. That's what I'm saying, there's inspiration everywhere. But what was the trip and I really wanted to know? Like, where to, because Matt just was like, get on TikTok. Yeah. People will write off whatever I've done and be like, he must have to sat you down and gave you the keys to the city. No, you got to do the words. I had to literally figure out what the hell was going on in that. Absolutely.

But for him, I saw it on a post recently where he was like, yeah, shout out, it was because it's so, boom. So I wanted to know what it was. I wanted where Russ's was or is Russ our. He might be the, he might be the, he might be the way. You think Russ is the pure source? He could be the pure source. He's been independent so long. Someone got to inspire him, you know, someone's got inspired. Everybody's going to. Everybody's going to. have an inspiration. You know what I mean? Like somebody inspired Steve Jobs. There's somebody that's the original thing.

Adam. Outside of Adam. Eve was tripping, man. Like, Eve. Eve didn't have the discipline, bro. Like, shit. You know what I mean? Like, Adam was locked in.

Adam was happy. Adam was living life. Eve needed more. He was Duval. He was Duval. He was Duval. We're Eve. Right.

We're working seven days of me. Right. But I think, I think the creativity, like, there is somebody that, you know what I mean? Like, even if you trace the Steve Jobs thing, like, you can be as motivated as you want or inspired by Steve Jobs. But if you can't code, you're just going to be wearing black venex. Like, what is the thing that inspires you about? I think. Where did Russ get the, like, you were like, I'm going to put comedy online and I'm going to do it at this frequency.

And I'm going to, like, I'm going to be, I'm going to care. I'm going to post material. I'm going to post whatever. I'm a post, if it's funny, it's going online. I'm not going to hold back no more. According to this article. I still hold a lot. I had material because I would go, I was like a road dog.

I would go to a new market every year and I always wanted to do new. Yes. So like I had an hour or more of stuff I wasn't doing anymore because next time I go to Columbus, I don't want to give them the same show. Right. Because there might be 40 people there that could saw it. So I was able to put some stuff out. And then the reason I started doing more of the crowd.

I could generate. I can continue to put it out. I'm sure why you do it versus material of why everybody does it. But yeah, and then like volume is probably the game right now for better or for worse. I don't know. I think there's been a shift.

Talk to me. Within the last 15 days. Ooh, I like this. I think that you can get more traction right now if you don't throw everything at the wall. if you throw the best moment and wait, because if my thing is I want to put one to two videos out a day,

the quality, like it just is what it is. Now, if I hold and I go, okay, out of 13 shows in Brooklyn, give me the craziest two moments. And so then I just post once a week, like the quality of that clip will go. I'm happy with the level of quality I'm hitting even at this quantity, but it's exponential. If I go, if I tell my whole team we aren't pushing for one, a day.

What we'll get, if I go, just give me the best video for a week, and you can scrape everything from the last five months. They're coming back with monstrosities. There's just been some moments. See what I mean? That's what I think.

That's what I think has always been. I don't, because I went to TikTok and they're like, just keep on phousin. Well, I think what happened with me, when we blew up on TikTok, I had, all these people on TikTok hadn't seen years of stand-up that was

already on Instagram, on YouTube. Right, right. So then it got to flood TikTok. So we got to flood with heat. So I'm doing Snapchat now. Exactly. Never been on there.

So it's like you get to flood with all your Super A plus. Yes. And that stuff works cross-pop from because it's good. Yeah, it's great regardless. And all the shit even more, man, I posted some clip randomly

that was just old recently. And it just went crazy. Same thing happened to me, but it was the Brooklyn Improv just took a clip they liked, collabbed me on it, and it went nuts again. Because great shit works.

And great shit will cut through when there's a lot of slop out there. Tell me. What you think about this? Talk to me. The blues clues. You know what I'm talking about? No, like I know the show. Okay, yeah. So what people don't realize is about the show because we're adults and we just put it on to walk out the room. Is that they play the same episode all week long.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every episode. Really? The kids actually like... So by like Friday, I think it was in a Malcolm Gladwell book. I'm not... Yeah. So I don't want to act like this. I'm psyched. But anyway, so... Outliers? By Friday, yeah. The kids are literally standing in front of the TV, reciting the episode with and we were watching it like

what do you mean where's the iron it's right but the kids are like on Monday they can't even see it Tuesday it's gonna be on this side of the screen by Wednesday they're up touching the screen pointing by Thursday they're like they're yelling while they're introducing the segment you got kids no

you got to put it on not in them you put it on them not in them go ahead new song coming soon No, what happens is when you read a kid a book, they're like getting used to the book. Books are like music to them or TV shows are like music. They want to hear it more.

With us, I think our brains are so developed. Like after you read it once, you're like, I don't need to read this again. I've already digested it. I'm with you on this. But like, so Blue's Clues figured that out with kids. They're like, yo, we don't kind of need a new one every cent. They actually prefer to milk that shit the whole week.

It will drive parents crazy. but the kids will like it. But I think the familiarity. The familiarity. But so also, I notice if I'm in a movie, the scene that people laugh the hardest at is the one that was in the trailer.

It's obnoxious. I'm like, we saw that for four months. Why are you? But that's why they put in the trailer. Which I get, but it's not that, they're not laughing because I haven't seen it before. They're laughing because I'm like, oh, there's a familiarity with it. What do you mean, you people?

The Tropics Thunder, like, we saw that for six months, then went to the theater, than the moment happened and you laugh at me like oh that's from the oh that's from the nostalgia it becomes it becomes music facts yeah but what if we shifted and did that with if i if i if i all right this week's gonna be this bit and i'm gonna drop that every day bro this has happened like and i mean that's like the tic-tok music play which is like hey let me just drop the same part of the song over and over three times a day with maybe a different voice over maybe a different thing like they changed the visual stimulus but the same part of the song there's a girl that blew a song up by playing it

She posted, I think she said, 200, or 2,200 times straight. This is what, yeah, this is what. And then, like, the 1700 one was the one that went viral. It just caught the right wave. Yeah. Yeah. So there is a familiarity aspect. Now, according to Russ, he says he dropped 11 projects, none of them broke through,

and all of his albums were getting buried. But then he saw people that had singles that would catch on. And so he was like, let me just drop singles. Every single week. And then I'm just going to drop single after single. and according to him, that was the thing that inspired the idea. I also think when you reach critical mass, there is an important play, which is like, now less can be more. So when you reach the point, like, you're already beyond it, I think that less but high quality stuff or incredibly random thing.

Like you said, there's something to happen with like an amputee in a crowd or whatever like that. It's just such a random concoction of events that it's like really special. And I think that that does work because now you don't need to like introduce yourself to people as much. Now it's a reminder and you're bringing new people in with heat. Right. But I'm facts. But I'm looking at the five people I see posting the most content right now. And I think that there is schools of thought on it.

Like I think I think maybe Ali posts once every two week a stand-up bit. I think Mojo's doing one a week. And then here I am throwing like five a day. Yeah, so maybe there's a version where she's like, well, what is the tip of the spear? Well, I think there's, it's a risk to me, I think, because somebody can be like, let's see what all the hype is. I'm, you know, crowd work, whatever. Let me check out Nate Jackson. And then they see one that's not a banger, banger.

They're like, oh, it's not even, you know what I'm saying? Did you just hurt a ticket or help a ticket? But I'm confident that, like, one will get you to go like that and see the next one. Well, that's the other thing. It's like more shots on goal is more goals, right? And it's only going to take one of those to go crazy. And then you can also let the algorithm decide too, which is like if it's not that good,

not that many people will see it. If it's crazy, a lot of people will see it. So there is that version of it. I can archive it too. It's not ready. This ain't the one I want out there. But you know what I used to be able to do, which I think we all came in.

Like once you get a feel for the audience or you, you'll be like, we got a bang her. Yeah. Oh, we got a bang. You know, like wait till we post this one with this lady where she would have effort. Right? Yeah.

And you would post it and then it would do what you thought it would do. Yeah. And now there's a disconnect. Now you're like, I know I got a banger. You put that one on there

and that might, it might just like barely. And then you're like, oh, no, man, just post the next video. And then that one go crazy. Yeah. I'm in the comments

of the one going crazy but look at the last one now. No, y'all got it wrong. Yeah, they didn't get this one right. And that's where it's like putting out the things that you're proud of or you think are really fun

or you think it really interesting, ideally can be the thing that offers a satisfaction. But I almost want to keep the, this is what I'm thinking. I want to keep the consistency that we're at because that's what I pay people to do. But I think like putting like a gold ribbon on ones that I'm like, this one's a little nutty. I think might be something.

Maybe it's like a watermark or something. Maybe. You kind of hedge it. Or it's a specific day where you drop like Friday's, this is the clip of the week. Right. And then they have all week to whatever to get it. Yeah.

Yeah. And I saw you on your YouTube channel, you have, like, comedy just gone for 24-7. When did you start that? Yeah, that's a new thing. You like that? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what you're talking about?

Yeah. Yeah. They just hit me up, the people that do it. And I was like, who do you already work with? And they were like, we work with Ali Sadieke, and I was like, what does he play on there? Because he has so many specials. You just run the old stuff.

You treat it like TV. Yeah, but what I didn't like, Ali's long for him. He's storytelling. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like my, because I'm such quick clip that's like chive TV, you know, you go sit in the bar and see the guys like all the little tricks and all that. Like, when you go to the bar and you watch that,

the blooper reels, that's chive TV. So I feel like if I have a ton of four-minute snippets, like I would be perfect in the live space. Can you go to my YouTube? It's up right now. I was like, oh, fuck, shit. I mean, we basically took all my crowdwork joints. It's been

Maybe three months It's also a good Like monetization thing It's like you get in ads throughout the entire day But I mean it's just always on And then they're commenting They're going What I'm trying to get them to do

Is enable super chat over there So that You know what I'm saying Which is where I thought the green comments were I opened it one day and was like You mean they all pay me a dollar But they're in there talking I don't know. Does this how many people are in there right now?

Look at this nice white audience shot. 215 people watching right now. That's crazy. Wow. Imagine if 214 people were sitting right there. Wow. This podcast is pet. There you go.

But look at that. I don't know where we are, but that's my crowd makeup. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's fascinating. Okay, you want to rip through a couple more films? Yeah, let's do it.

All right. This is, I mean, the white people don't. white shit. But I don't know if you saw this is fucking a wild clip. This is a woman in Austria paragliding. I think I did it for plane hits it. She's flying around. Oh. Yeah, I just see that. It's so crazy that even though I said that

it's still crazy. No. Pulls out the emergency parachute. Yeah. The emergency parachute is not amazing. Is it ripped up? The first one? Yeah. No, the emergency one is the white one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

That's fucking terrifying. And then you got to figure out how to land with the emergency one. Oh. Your emergency shoot's not going to slow you down as fast. So you're just landing. How old is she? Hard. She's not a young lady, huh?

Yeah. This is how married I am. I'm enjoying those moans. I was going to say, she's not making enough noise. I ought to be like, woo. Survival. So those grandchildren did something? I got across my leg.

Nice to hear of rub her right. She didn't fake that landing. You know, she didn't fake that landing. It's for real. She's a little for a while. Wow, that's what it sounds like. All right, one more than we get out of here, my man.

You, that's crazy. Crazy, right? Yeah. And she survived, and then the people in the plane were apparently fine. They're, like, doing an investigation on how the fuck that happens. I mean...

There's a lot of space up there to get in an accident. That's what I'm saying. That's intention. This was a clip, though, It also shows you how fast planes are going. Bro, this guy cracks me up, man. What's the name of this? There's a name.

Derek, is it Derek something? Let me find it. Oh, what's the name? Yeah. David. David understood comedy. So. Pause.

Pause. So what he does is he could do every accent pretty much, and he can also, like, fake speak the language. But he's not saying anything. Okay. And he walks up to people and then he starts fake speak in their language. Right. And then that's the video. And he does it with every walk up to Chinese people.

He fake speak Chinese. And everybody hit him? Not because they're trying to figure it out. They see a white guy speaking Chinese. And they're like... And they're like, enough to be like... You'll see it. Running from the beginning.

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We just started eating Okay I mean we got a couple Other random Feelers, no facts This is I mean this FAA sent this one in

Because he wanted you To see it Okay It's a woman who's at an event and sells feed juice. So she has a sign that says feed juice for sales. She dunks her feet in here, and then people drink up the feed juice. Nah, this gives up for the bad name, bro.

This is... Wait, what do you mean us? Just the people who enjoy feet. Oh, you're a foot guy? He's one of those. I thought I was until I saw that. Yeah, this gives perspective. I mean, yeah.

When you say you're a feet guy, what's that mean? I don't like to do anything. to them, but I just think they gotta look nice. Yeah, for sure. Like, I don't want you to grow fucked up feet. Like back of the day. Yeah, but this is, this is a lot. No, this is weird. But let's just say you saw like a very attractive woman and she had bad feet.

You not smash it? No, boomerang out. Does that mean he's smashing? No, it's the movie. Eddie Murphy. Oh, no. He gets from Robert Gibbons and she's crazy badly. He pulls back the covers and her feet are just like. Can't do it. And you won't do it. Yeah.

No, that wasn't her feet. That was Iva Lashon's, no. Either way. A beautiful woman. He laid in the bed. He was literally like, let me see. The cover. And when they pulled back, she had like your feet.

And so then he sneaks out of the bed and out of the room. But that's what you would do? I want attractive feet. No, I still do it. Are you one of them brothers that's like, you ain't smashing the feet? Like, what if I want to? Touching the feet. What if I do want to smash the feet?

No, I'm not touching the feet. Like, if the body's right, like, that's, you know, of everything else is right. For wifey? For wifey? Or just like for one night, obviously, who cares? No, you one night. If they had bad feet, you wouldn't even. When I was in Argentina, I was looking for a girl who's missing a finger.

Like, if you're there for just like an amount of time. Yeah, I said it was that far. No, but like if it's white fee, like obviously, you don't have to look at those things all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, we understand. This guy brought up an interesting hypothetical.

Would you rather be a 5-2 white dude or a 6-5 black dude? Oh. 5-2 is pretty short. Yeah, 6'5 black dude. Yeah. Yeah. What would you rather be, Nate? Never thought of that.

I don't know the life of a 5-2 white guy. Was it just rejection everywhere? Yeah. But you might not get harassed by police as much. You know what I mean? You won't. You might get... You are the police.

You got to be a cop. I'm kind of like it. this journey I'm on here in what I got. But that is interesting. Is heightism worse than racism? No. Yeah. Because, no.

Boy, you'd rather be a 6'5 black dude. I can't tell how tall he is in his car. Fair. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I can't tell. He can wear heels. Yeah, that's true.

You can't wear heels as a guy, man. No, they got those healed boots. Yeah, who would ever do that? Yeah, you know, Josh. They never wear some left, style? Give you a little extra. You know, it's not wrong with that. 5-2 is crazy.

Five-two is too. There's a number where you do it, but like 5-2 is crazy. All right. Would you like to be a 5-2 black guy? That you can't be Duval or Kevin Hart. Hold on, 5-2 black guy or a 5-2 white guy? Nope. Just a 5-2 black guy.

Or just a third one. The third one is, so I could be a 6-5 black guy, a 5-2 white guy, or a 5-2 black guy. Or a 7-foot Asian. Oh, that's fire. Seven foot Asian is kind of lit, to be honest with you. Seven foot Asian, 100%. Yeah. Yeah?

Even though you have the smallest dick out of everybody on the way. But it's seven foot, it's Asian dick. No, it's small for Asian dick. You're adding another comment. Hold on. Hold on. Well, she doesn't have a downside. Why wouldn't we all want to be the gigantic Asian, man?

There's no backside. Gigantic Asian guy with a pretty big dick, but it's not big for seven. feet, but it's pretty big. No. This is, this is, this, microbeaters are terrible. Fuck it. Yeah, you're a gigantic Asian. Yeah. Pinky toe. Nah. I love feet.

I love feet. That's a tough one for me. Seems like I just got more foot. Yeah. You got an extra toe. That's kind of nice. No, I don't know. I can't do micro penis. Even if you're seven foot Asian, because what's the point? But you go to the league. If you're a seven foot Asian and you sell your jersey all

over China. Yeah, but you got a micro penis. girl painting is not that's crazy now what would you do you got to be 5-2 black dude right yeah with a massive hog that's not bad that's what they keep saying about kevin heart you got what's uh yeah that's what's yeah that's what i uh for the whole week of the um rose yeah i kept seeing all these videos by um what's the white guy that paints his nails that was on the rose big j o'cerson kept on dropping videos about how big kevin's dick is really yeah i just all week i was like hey yo oh come on come on Fairwood.

You got a different algorithm. What's your algorithm, man? I didn't see any of those videos. I don't know. I just saw Chelsea Handler whining. I thought as much stuff about roasts as I could see. Yeah. And so I just got, I was like, and that's enough.

I saw everything now. On the topic of uncomfortable hypotheticals, and this might maybe even be a good place to really try to focus in our energy. Okay, okay, go. This is what people are talking about outside of the Knicks Stadium. I think we're going to girl for the Knicks to win it off. I would let Jaylor brunt to suit my girl.

my mother, my sister. I let him sleep with anyone he asked for it. Would you let Jayne and Brunson sleep with your girl for the Knicks to win at all? For the Knicks to win at all? Yes. Did you let him sleep with her girl for the Knicks to win at all? I let him sleep with his girl. So this is the question.

Nah. No. For the Knicks to win at all, bro. No. I'm going 42 years without it, man. There's nothing you're not used to. I'm not having a championship. I got too used to it.

I'm unfortunately comfortable with it. Sleep with you. girl is crazy. There was one where a dude says that he would take strokes. He would take a back stroke. He would take black black dude, by the way. This is probably. Nah, but he's from Jersey. Wait, wait, but what's that got to do with anything?

There's no way. What's that got to do anything? You're just no way. Do you tell him he's more progressive than New York? There's just no way. Are they gayer in New Jersey? No, that way gayer here. A black New Yorker would not say that. So he's not, we're not claiming it. I think New Yorker's gay. But a

black New Yorker did say it. He did. You just put it on Jersey. But no, I think Jersey is like a few years back. I don't know if they're playing with the gay fun yet. Thing? Nah. New York is there. White boy fun has crossed since of black culture in New York.

How do you feel about white boy fun? You know how they're all the dick shut. You got to get used to it. But like, who taught you about it? I'm from Washington State. Oh, yeah. So the whites, the whites introduced? Our football team was not checking.

Really? Yeah, like, they were like, run down to the goalpost and come back. And on the way back, if somebody's bushy, like, the coach would see it like, stop. Like, here's the whole thing. Stop, not checking, they really play. So did you grow up with it? The quarterback was not checking the center.

Like, we couldn't even run a play. So, hold on, so did you grow up with it and it was normal, or did you get introduced to it at a certain point in time and then you had to acclimate? It was just normal. From what I remember, like, middle school, high school, like people would just be playing too much. Now, did you ever play with other black dudes that didn't know anything about it?

And they're like, you know, what is going on? As a matter of fact, I remember very distinctively Big Irish Jay, a comedian from Boston that's in Vegas now. He's still a place like that to this day. And he'll get you. Like, you're like, oh, my God, I can tell him. It's fucking my left nut only is ridiculous. But he came to something where it was like, it was like a pretty urban function. And he was in there on that same energy.

And I was like, man, seriously, like this is not, we're not. with that today. Really? Yeah. Like, full on truce, no nutjacks. Truth. He should have to call it truth. It's the death jam after party.

Please, I got on a tux. He's like, this is the best time. I know it's shiny right now. I'm like, Jay, I swear to God. If you get me in my nuts in this goddamn party, I'm like, we can't be friends anymore. He's like, yeah, no, no, it's cool, school. I'm Jay!

They don't care. No, they don't. Okay, before we go, I want you to do this. Let us know about the thing that you were recreated. Oh, Comedy Jam? Yes. Yeah, so I did comedy jam because I felt like it was needed. It's been a very, very long time since we've had a structured show with microsets.

And so I brought 54-56. I'm not sure something like that. Like, the thing was 54 comics, flew them out to the club, spent about $160,000. And you did it all at your club? I did. Wow. Yeah, so it's intimate. and it's there. It's there. And nobody had a bad set. And it sounds great. It looks great. It's the same team that I did my Netflix special with. So there's a lot of people that should see some, you know, a needle push. Even this is just to give them some phenomenal content on their own page.

Where you're your channel? Yeah. My team is actively trying to sell it right now. But I was like, no matter what you do, this is going to be on my YouTube. Yeah. So I don't know how, I don't know what that handshake looks like, but it's going to have to like maybe it drops simultaneously. Or the TV one says, go look at this or something, but it's going on my YouTube. Started with that intention. So it's called The Super Funny Comedy Jam, and it's starring 54 of the funniest comedians in the country. Who are some names? Smokey Suarez. Smokey.

Rob Stapleton. Rob. Tony Roberts. Yeah. I mean, names I think people would, I mean, Ryan, Davis did it. Ryan's great, man. Reg that just did

it was in the finals on Funny A.F. Black Ron, Just Nish, Clayton Thomas, Martin Amine. Martin Amini. This really funny white dude I've seen when I do the showcase in D.C. named Matt something.

He was really good. I have to look it up. And maybe I'll shoot it to so you can like, look at that's name once. But, no, it was just great. Like, we did four comics, three or four comics per episode. How many shows did you do? 11.

I wanted to do 10. And then I was like, I'll do an 11th because I just couldn't keep saying no to certain people. Right. And so then I was like, well, the 11th one will be my pilot if I'm going to take it out or whatever. And then my team was like, no, just go out with 11 of them. Yeah, why not? It's always better. We'll see.

So we'll see. I mean, we're going to see if there's a network that wants it or whatever. But everyone right now keeps on saying, like, oh, no, we don't want that format for comedy. Right. I'm like, well, it's in the top five on Netflix right now. It seems to be doing all right. Yeah, you don't want short form comedy? Yeah.

Wow. But I just remember when we came up, you could watch Comic View, Premium Blinn, you could watch Def Jam. There was always something where you could see. And then just for the last 25 years, there hasn't been anything, really. Yeah. Nothing that stuck. Like Def Jam had a chance, but then Russell got the Me Too, so then they swept it under the rug.

And so that's the, that's the itch that gets scratched with this. And so I'm hoping that it moves a needle for some people. At least it puts them in a conversation to be doing clubs to make somebody to possibly, you know, build some money on the tables. Yeah, that's it. And so Super Funny Comedy Jam. And if anybody's interested in the Comedy Club,

it's Nate Jackson Super Funny Comedy Club in Tacoma, Washington, biggest black-owned comedy club in the Combingy Club. Country. Shabbas to you. Yeah, Tommy Davidson's coming here soon. Oh, legend. Yeah, we have a time. Can you click View All at the bottom?

Yeah, so let's see who we got coming so people can be proud of us. Hey, Fion. Tricks from Funny AF, Tiffany Haddish, Tim Troopshire, Funny Marco. Oh, great, dude. Yeah, just ripped Michaels, Bill Bellamy. Bill Bellamy. And then, so we do the opposite. So go to hell, bam, Rosebudbaker.

There you go. Once a month, we have white. And that will pay the bills, for all the blacks to come. No, I want, and to be honest with you, I want the most diverse lineup possible. When I say diversity, I don't mean a hell of black people. I mean, I want, everyone we can say on the screen, that should be, I don't, we don't need this many, it looks like an N-W-ACP meeting. Like, it's hell of black

people. But the agents assume because it's black-owned, those are the clients that they read off to me. And then people just don't take a serious because it's not a big chain club. Our text message from six years ago has an offer in it from me to him. Great offer. Really? Great offer.

Yeah, great offer. I came strong. Oh, gosh. Can you share it? Strong as you can come. From Jersey. I don't want to put it out there because he might have less strong offers. You can say it. I'm full transparency. I talk money.

Yeah. Yeah. You're going to, it would sell out like that. Come work on some shit. Yeah. It's nothing. You eat good, hang out with good people.

I definitely want to go. Come see some snow if you want. Hell, hell, hell. Yeah. But, yeah, and those kind of offers are out for particular people that I'm a fan of or inspired by. And we've had a few with another, you know. Yeah. So I don't know what it takes to crack through the noise of all the different places people can perform and all that stuff.

But we do well. So. But I just want to see more people that I'm already like. Like, I think people will get it. Like, Dave was at the Netflix brunch and he was like, I'm going to come down your clap, man. Oh, that'd be far. Yeah, but I also think like it makes people go, oh. There's a thing.

Exactly. Yeah, you know, man. So it's exciting stuff. I appreciate you having me here. Nate Jackson, man. Everybody go check out Nate. Thank you, bro. Thank you so much, bro.

Appreciate you, man. Thank you, bro.