Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Legion of Assholes ft. Luis Gomez

Episode Date: September 20, 2019

This week Andrew, Akaash, Kaz, and Legion of Skanks' very own Luis J Gomez discuss comedians vs bloggers, Logan Paul vs KSI, white girls twerking, the Giants benching Eli Manning, OBJ’s first TD as a Brown, and much more. INDULGE!!! Want to listen to the full episode? Become a Patron! www.Patreon.com/Flagrant2

What's up everybody welcome to another episode flagrant to noisy buckets analysis by assholes water cooler commentary for your sports needs this is a patreon episode we got a special guest in the building we have a New York legend to be a cure the curator along with others but we're going to give you the credit right now, of what I think is the gem of New York comedy now. I think it is the only thing in New York comedy that represents us right now. Comic base. Not necessarily club base. Obviously, there's the clubs and stuff, which is Skank Fest.

And the owner and curator of one of the most potent podcast networks in New York as well. We have Louis J. Gomez with us here. I've been trying to get Louis on this podcast for,

Louis, I don't know how long this is now. I know. We are both very busy. It's difficult to- We're very busy and you do a podcast with Michael Bisping,

former middleweight champion, middleweight champion, called Believe You Me, which, and this is so typical of the YouTube era. I have probably watched 100 clips of this podcast on YouTube that aren't even through your

guys fucking youtube it's like these other mma channels get your videos posted i've never listened to a full episode i listen to hundreds of these clips and that's why i leave those out we don't take our copyright claims do you know we know we do though what's that this was the smartest shit ever we started reaching out to the people who own those channels and they put these clips because these are MMA channels that have massive followings and I was like hey we won't take

our copyright claims on you all you gotta do is leave in our ad reads so then we get conversions off that we can use that for that's great

so you sometimes a clip will go viral and get a million hits a lot of the time they're most I'd say 80% of them leave them in

20% of them don't respond. And we still leave them up because fuck it. It's still people discovering the brand, but it's tons of people talking. It's how I find about it. Yeah. You know, it's like,

I, I'll, there are a few guys that I'll click on for MMA stuff. It's you too. There's another guy, uh, bad guy, Inc.

Chelson. And I was, I knew you were going to say, and he's got a great setup and he's a great talker. He's very kind of like wrestling in his background in a way. Do you know his background as a fighter? Well, very vaguely. I know his Bellator days.

No, no, no. He used to be in the UFC. He's got the best story ever because he was sort of like, he was like, I would say, a middler for a long time. He got to the UFC, and he was somebody uh, you know, I would say a middler for a long time. He, he got to the UFC and, you know, he was somebody that not, you know, a very tough, gritty wrestler who,

you know, just won a lot of fights and, but it wasn't somebody that, you know, people were really talking about. And then he ended up getting, um, a silver fight.

He ended up talking his way into the Anderson Silva fight. Essentially. If you watch his shit talk, you can probably pull up highlights of Chael Sonnen, like his like shit talking. He straight up just took highlights of Chael Sonnen, his shit talking. He straight up just took a page out of Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, old school pro wrestling. That's how I found out about him, man. And he's funny, dude.

And he was saying racist shit. He was telling a story about the first time he met the Nogueira brothers. And he's just being as serious as possible. He was like, yeah, we got off this bus. He was like, this is how dumb they are. He was like, Brazilians, they don't even know. He was like, they thought the bus was a horse. They were trying

to feed a carrot to the bus. And I'm watching him and I was like, it's a bus. What are you guys doing? And it's one of the funniest fucking things

I've ever seen in my entire life. And I'm like, and this is an MMA fighter. And some of these guys, MMA is a beautiful sport because some of these guys, they have these really

great personalities and they really go big. And even the guys that sort of miss, I appreciate the effort. Like Colby Covington, who's a guy who's kind of cringey right now. But he's still trying to do this pro wrestling thing. He wears a Trump Make America Great hat

and he trolls people and people are furious. I saw him going into Whole Foods with his team a few weeks ago when they were at New York for the fight. And they were looking so York for the fight and they were looking so fucking badass and like mean

but walking in Whole Foods it was just the most hilarious like he mean I think we kind of recognize each other from whatever but it was like

I couldn't put together Colby Covington and the Make America Great Again that shit so what I've heard about Colby is two things one when the act is gone, nicest guy. I'm sure.

I bet all these guys are like that. Nicest fucking guy. Two, I heard that he is a WXWWE writer that puts together all of his stuff and he has lines that he's like prepping before he goes on for these news conferences. I would 100% believe it. And I have no problem, I respect it.

That's how you make money in this business. There's also other guys, because not every guy, I don't think that Nate Diaz, when the cameras go off, he starts making eye contact. Because he's already a fucking psycho. That's who he is. He's that thug from Sock in California. And there are guys that are real.

Michael Bisping is Michael Bisping on the show. He's Michael Bisping in the car. That like that guy's very very real and very funny but you see there's so many different personalities in the sport and I think that it's kind of in my opinion why it's taken um this the the taken sort of the the space is the number one combat sport it's because you know the the UFC took so much from the WWE and they were like wait a minute

we can put these guys sort of in the spotlight and we can make stars and I feel like there's not that many personalities in boxing we're watching chicks fight yeah

that is a headlining card with a 0% chance of titties gonna pop out we all would watch chicks fight we all watch chicks fight and Wendy's not in a wig I'll watch a chick fight in the street I'll watch a chick fight

all day long you see some of them just tear their clothes off no dude the marketing is is phenomenal it's way better and because it's part of

one organization much like WWE you have so much more control of all these different fighters that you can prop up whereas in boxing it's a complete

fucking free for all so it's not like the WBC can like brand guys that have and have some sort of like tournament difference between the wbc wbo who knows like even watching the tyson fury fight it's like the linear heavyweight we don't know what that means yeah i'm like i see a guy with a green belt i'm assuming he's the guy it is it is the marketing leg of it is phenomenal and it seems like the guys are starting to realize the buying power behind the story. We were talking about this on the episode,

what was it, today. Today's Tuesday, but this is coming out Friday. And we were talking about how skill is not as important as story. There is a fight that's coming up. Logan Paul, he's a YouTuber. You know him? Yeah, I know him. And he's fighting this guy, KSI. It's. Logan Paul, he's a YouTuber. You know him? Yeah, I know him.

And he's fighting this guy, KSI. It's a rematch, right? Rematch. You know where they're fighting? Where? Staples Center. Yeah. The fucking Staples Center.

It's sold out. Staples Center. The Fortnite World Championships was also at the Staples Center. Oh, shit. No, it's not. No, really. The cheapest these were $250.

I was going to go. I was going to go because I play Fortnite and I was straight up going to go. But, yeah. it's not. The cheapest these were $250. I was going to go. I was going to go because I play Fortnite, and I was straight up going to go. It's story. It's what people are invested in. They don't really care how great your striking or jiu-jitsu is. They care about how great your background is.

Nate Diaz has a compelling background. He's going to get people excited about a fight. The UFC story, it is the foundation of this sport. They created a sport. So I think because, and they're also the most respected brand, they're the Coca-Cola of MMA. That story in itself gives them validity.

So it's just so, it's different. What KSI and Logan Paul are doing, it's sort of in a category of itself. KSI and Logan Paul, if they were doing a rap battle, they could do it at the Staples Center. If they were playing fucking thumb wrestling, they could do it at the Staples Center.

Their fan bases are going to just watch them compete against each other. But for an individual fight to blow up. rap battle, they could do it at the Staples Center. If they were playing fucking thumb wrestling, they could do it at the Staples Center. Their fan bases are going to just watch them compete against each other. But for an individual fight to blow up, like any UFC fight I've heard about, it's because of a story behind it.

Right. You know what I mean? That's why 24-7 happened. I heard of Conor McGregor because of his personality and that story, personality, that kind of thing.

Yeah, and you get certain guys that they sort of have everything, right? That story is what, you know, this is what makes them stars because it has to be because it has to be a bunch of different factors. And it's sort of weird because you see, like, George St. Pierre wasn't necessarily the most exciting fighter in the world,

but he became the most popular fighter in the world because he sort of had this, like, quality in him that people, you know, I mean, he had an entire country behind him as well. The country helps. He was handsome. Yeah, he carried himself really well. He kind of seemed like you could see him with other athletes and he'd be like the face of that brand. Kind of like Jon Jones for a second where it was like,

I don't really care how good of a fighter you are, but I could see you wearing Nike shit and doing those commercials. It was a different time because back then there wasn't social media the way it is now. These guys weren't tweeting the way they are. They didn't have an opportunity to build a brand for themselves. So really back then, we're talking about when GSP was coming up 10 years ago, he became the biggest fighter ever.

They had two, three minutes in the cage to have an interview with Joe Rogan after they win, and they create those moments. Or in a press conference or in an interview, there was very controlled moments and George St. Pierre, there was a great moment where right before he got the title shot,

he got down on his knees and begged, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it and he was like, Dan White, please, please give me the title shot

and the crowd's like, ah, people are crying. It's one of the most amazing moments and that was like, it's one of the things that stand out to me. It's not him fucking getting into a fight in a bar

or crashing his car into a telephone pole. It was sort of this very controlled thing. It's like we pay more attention to the negative shit, but the positive shit works as well. Yeah, of course. Pro wrestling, man. Yeah, exactly. You're going to have heel and you're going to have...

He's going to cut your promo and he's a babyfazer. It's pro wrestling and most people play the heel, but I guess we just ended you can also play the good guy. Of course. Justin Poirier, right, has been the sweetest guy post-loss with Khabib. Khabib obviously helps out the charity and there's a perfect opportunity for him to be the good guy and then face him up against some heel that we all hate and then we're all rooting for Justin.

If he wins, he wins. If he doesn't, he doesn't. I mean, like, you can sell positive fights. Fuck the Gaethje fight with the cowboy this weekend. Like, that moment that they had afterwards? Yeah. Dude, that was super sweet. I was smiling, thinking about it,

and my girl was like, what are you, like, what are you smiling about? Like, because she thought I was thinking about her or something. She's like, what are you over there smiling about? But it was this beautiful moment where like Gaethje was like he wanted to keep going

like you could tell they fucking cared about each other you know and yeah I don't know I think it's in a good space Gaethje got very emotional

because like you know it's a guy who you know he doesn't have any ill will towards the guy who he likes and the referee

didn't stop it so he sort of got mad at the ref yeah he's like dude what are you doing I'm hitting this guy in the head an extra 10 times because you can't just fucking stop the fight it's

done right um yeah and that dude that's it's an amazing thing it's why it's why in my opinion it's the best sport in the world it's like there's all of these different factors and then on top of it on top of the story on top of everything else these guys get they get into a cage and they fucking beat the shit out of each other it It's like, you know, you could, I just think it's like the absolute, you know, the highest level of like competitiveness, the highest level, and it's not an original thought of my own, it might be like an old Joe Rogan thought

or even Dana White or one of these guys, but it's like, in all these sports, that aggression, they come out of the gridiron of football, and they're like, ah, ah! And then they're gonna go stand behind a line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bend over. What are you doing?

They want to kill each other. Kill each other, motherfuckers. What is it? Sport is supposed to simulate war, and this is the closest you get. This is as close to fighting as you can get. It is fighting. It is fighting. It is fighting with a few rules.

I can grab your balls and fucking put my thumb in your eyeball. If I'm fighting, I'm going to take this bottle, I'm going to hit you over the head. Yeah. It's a little different. It's the closest. It's the closest thing you can get to the real deal with keeping it civilized.

And I mean, the reality is the fact that it is as popular as it's gotten and you really look at just sort of the trajectory. It's civilized within man's rules

of how to be civilized. You don't hit another guy in the balls. You don't fight dirty. But a guy is concussed on the ground and you can hit him one more time. Yeah, it's the one.

Right? You get one more. To a man, it's like, you got to make sure you win. If a referee doesn't pull you off, you do hit him one more time. You have to. That's the rule. Dude's rules are, you got to win. You can't lose.

So if you got to hit him one more time, that sucks, but that's what you got to do. These guys, there's something about it, which I love. It's like, it reminds they're when I it's all it reminds me when I was a kid I remember there's a few times it was almost like

we're gonna meet after school 3.30 in the parking lot right and it's like there's something about there's this weird gentlemanly thing

where I agree I'm gonna fight you you agree to fight me we're gonna stand there it's a duel yeah it's a duel one of the guys go down and that's that

you're like alright we've settled this. And usually you shake hands. This is my whole childhood. Every one of my friends I got into some dumb fight like this with at one point. And then you're buddies again. And you weirdly got closer to them through that weird fucking thing. And I love that in MMA. And you watch it happen.

You watch guys that talk all the shit in the world to each other. And they go to war. And they try to kill each other in that case they leave it on the line then at the end of it they fucking break down and hug each other and they have this beautiful moment because they legitimately went through um you know that relationship is something that very few people in the world will ever experience going you know training and then you know obsessing over a person for three months and studying what they do, what they think, trying to get it in their head. That's a whole other level.

It's like when your girl gives birth. It's like you watch your girl give birth, right? It's rare you get to see someone give maximum effort. It's hard to not fucking respect someone who you've seen give maximum effort in life. Remember when we had Izzy on the show? This was right after he just won the, you know, interim title. Yeah.

And he just had a fucking war with this guy. And we're asking him all these questions about, like, yo, just what's your mindset at this point? And you're looking at him and he's like, one, he was willing to die at that point. And he knows the guy crossed their cage is willing to die also. Yeah. And, like, it's a different respect. Like, you can't pretend. Like, there's no pretending. And it's so personal. It's also. And it's a different respect. You can't pretend. There's no pretending.

And it's so personal. It's just very... It's a one-man sport. It is a really personal thing. And I have so much respect. I did that dumb comedian fight for charity for Ellis Mania last year. Yeah, I loved that. I went through that whole process with Ryan O'Neill.

And it was really humbling. Wait a minute. We need to do one of those with the bloggers. We need to do a comic versus blogger MMA match. Oh, please. Like nine fights. I'll get in there. That's the only fight I can get into where dudes are in my weight class. Hold on.

Me versus Sadie Doyle. Come on, Mitch. Yeah, genderless. You make the rules. There is no gender. We're binary. Yo, what's up? This is Akash.

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