Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - New Epstein Files Get Even Worse, & Bad Bunny Super Bowl Reaction | Flagrant 691

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

YERRR – the boys go full investigative-mode on Bad Bunny's Half Time Show, Trump, and the Epstein files. It's fun and celebratory up top, but gets chaotic, and conspiratorial fast. We’re talkin’: – Super Bowl halftime politics, TPUSA, and why Jake Paul is corny – Epstein theories: redactions, and whether “he’s still alive” – Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Peter Attia, and sulfuric secret code words – Ghislaine, Wexner, Reddit mods, game-economy laundering, and “sacrificial lambs” No one is safe, everyone’s implicated, and the rabbit hole goes way deeper than you think. All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 0:00 Schulz told you! Gaga was unnecessary? 5:56 Embracing this Americana + Landscaping 9:02 Trump’s response was scheduled 10:15 TPUSA Half-Time show + Tap-dancing 13:07 Arg. against Bad Bunny? Jake Paul = corny 19:17 Low amounts of guilt + Recording at WTFMedia 22:07 Epstein files, are the rest coming out? 27:18 Epstein still alive? Dorsey + AI to confuse 30:00 Craziest claims, Bill Gates + David got roasted 36:05 Sulfuric Acid, Code words + Peter Attia 39:47 Is Elon Musk the corniest + Wildest party?? 44:50 Leverage w/ gov, Bannon interview + Middle men 51:04 How early does it go? Epstine? Bear Stearns 56:11 Why him? Inheriting Maxwell’s wealth + Reddit mod 1:00:54 Epstein meeting with 4chan creator 1:05:44 Epstein still alive? Laundering thru game economies 1:09:22 Procuring people, Sacrificial lambs + Redacted names? 1:13:23 Epstein was cooperating + Trump et al lied 1:16:26 Don T redaction, Kash Patel + Too big to fail 1:21:02 Elites + Feared than loved 1:26:16 Clintons’ public deposition + Howard Lutnick 1:29:40 Overseas impact of files + Nothing will happen 1:31:49 Where are the victims? Epstein didn’t self-del? 1:42:37 WH response + Trump friendship timeline 1:48:00 Trump is implicated + Bannon 1:51:09 Are we just Greek? Wexner is Epstein’s BF? 1:53:31 Come on forehead + What’s the story? 1:54:56 Ex-gf crypto scandal + Island = no rules 1:57:56 Kaaba covering, Temple + Satanic rituals? 2:01:47 Victims, Congressmen + Wealth inequality 2:04:47 DA reducing Epstein’s charge + Go to the Island? 2:07:55 Eric Weinstein, Goy hurts + Chris Tucker 2:12:13 Blaccent, Fake Citizens + What’s the real? 2:14:21 Catholic Church + Stoking fear This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, everybody. Welcome to Flavitry. Boy, Shultzzi, Alex Media, Markey, gags in the building. What's up? Shout out bad buddy, you did it. Yes, Benito. I told you. I told you.

No. I told you. No, no, no. Did I not? You did. I said the biggest artist in the world, and he would conquer the Super Bowl 100%. Conquer. Let's go.

You were talking crazy on my men's. What? On me and Al's men, right? On our men. On our Latino men. I said if this would be probably one of the, the greatest Super Bowl performances all the time. Wait, really?

I think so. I don't think he said it. Thanks to him, he kicked him out of Williamsburg, so now he could perform. He displaced them. You displaced the Puerto Rico. That is true. That spot right there, by the way, that's a block from my house. Really?

The Caribbean Social Club? Yeah. She's holding off a dear life. Dear life. What you mean? She's a Super Bowl. Yeah, but they don't pay them. Pepsi's not giving her any money.

Pepsi's only paying Theo Vaughn. Pepsi's only paying Theo Vaughn. She's not given no money to this poor woman. What's her name? Tonita. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. My neighbor. Stop, Stop saying, yeah. Friend of the show. I know, Al. We know this shit.

Come on. No, no. No, no. No. We're not doing it. Benito. Maw's playing my shit right now. Please,

you know. You're not about this. You're not about. You're not about the Puerto Rican culture. You brought up a really good point. If you like thick Latinas shaking ass on TV, you're a fucking weird, you're a big time.

You're a fucking live. The chair makes you do that. Oh, the chair. Hold on. Hold on. Now I get it. What the hell is happening.

Search Al's name in the files. Immediately. Search out of me a ball. I'm just giving you a little bad. You know how all those girls were? Give you a little bit. You didn't ask their idea. Nah, that's grown woman.

Nobody's ever said that. No, I've never said that coming back from the Virgin Islands. If you like these thick Latinas, you're a live, dude. You're such a real. You're a socialist. You're a market. you're a mental retard. You're a vampire.

You're a vampire. You're a vampire. You are a vampire. Vampire. A hundred percent. D all the above. You know, can we just be honest? Like, did they need, and I,

Lady Gaga shouts to you, unnecessary. No, no, no, no, no. It felt like, it felt like they were trying to throw the white something. They were, exactly. They were trying to throw some for you. You know what I mean? Yes.

Yeah, they gave Os Benito. They gave Os Benito. They tried to throw you. Benito. That's what it says. It's a babyito. Like, what is it? Is that Benito?

Benito. I don't even know how to say it. It's Benito. Benito. But you say it with a V. Isn't it Benito? No, it's Benito. You're fucking idiot.

You're going to let him do this to our culture, right? You're really going to let him do this to that. I can't wait for this one. You said, what is it? Benito. You know, fucking it. You know, we need a good You're trying to

You know, hey We need my shit We need Luke Combs Okay, we need Luke Combs We need we need Garth Brooks Where is it so wrong Gonna be American again?

We need a party in this box Okay? Quit it with these fine-ass Latina shaking ass Yeah, that's just Extremely uncomfortable That is so lived up It's un-American

You're so right about that Bendito, come on Why do Only liberals like fine ass, like he's shaking ass. Joe. He's trying to move it off. I'm sorry.

Jesus is. I thought you were a fucking idiot. And let me just be honest, you thought you were one for about three seconds. Savage. Yeah. I was like, oh no. Oh, no, I can't.

Is there a idea I forgot about? I can't let my people down right now. I got nervous. I was nervous. I was nervous. I was nerd. Mental retard. Yeah.

No, no. I'm like, did we need lady guys? Oh, were they just throwing a bone to the white? No, they're trying to throw a bone to the whites. It is funny, because they had a lady guy singing a Bruno Marr's song. Which is also confusing, but he is Puerto Rican. Yes. But it's like, okay, we can't get Bruno Mars because it's going to be too.

We need a white person to sing. We need a white to do Bruno Mars song. Oh, that was a Bruno. I thought. I mean, I might be off the fan. It's a Bruno Mar's song. I might be off the fan, but I don't know. Someone check.

What was the song? See, we don't even know the words of that one. Stop acting like you know any of the words to any of the songs. Yeah. But he took one of his. lyrics and said, oh, is this what you really want? And then cut it off, and then that's why you got a white girl performing.

So in Spanish, he says, is this what you, I think is this what America really wants? And then cuts to her. How do you say it in Spanish? I mean, let's just party, guys. Come on. Hey, come on. Oh, I'm nailing myself out of everything today.

Yeah, let's go. Party time. Hey, go, go, go, go, go. Hey, go, go, go, go. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt. I'm not trying to burn back himself out of a bomb. I ain't scared anymore.

Hig it! King it! How did you stand for a music cue that wasn't there? They're late, man. Come on, Joe. All right, so what's the logic with Lady Gaga? What's the lie? Do they sit down with Jay Z and be like,

yo, this shit is, it's been like six years without a white? Yeah, I think so. We need to give him something. The last white was Eminem, I think. Didn't he do it with 50? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was the last one. He's passing.

But what they, he's white passing. Eminem is white passing? So is he guy? This fucking Dallion. I know, dude. He really didn't really live this fucking Dallian. You got some American song on America's biggest stage. Come on, dude.

Oh, this was wonderful. This was wonderful. Why don't we just embrace this part of Americana. We too love Big Moody Latinas. We too love pure vibes. We too love dancing. Amen. We too love some chupitos from the abuela.

This is what we love. This, for example, right here, this we do not want to see, right? This is socialist. This is cultural Marxism. This is what Jordan Peterson warn us about. How can anybody be mad at this stuff? No, but that's what we're discussing right now.

Like when you look at these fine-ass Latinas shaking it and you enjoy it. It's just too political. That's my issue. You get these fat-ass, latina shaking ass, making twerk when go through the grass on the field. And it's like, it's just so political. Why does everything have to be politics, Martin? Exactly. Why can't I just watch football?

Exactly. We don't get these hot Latinas shake-ass. Yeah, fuck that. We want white chicks with no ass and zero tits with pom-poms. That's not political. That's not divisive. But we're a fat Latino, no, sorry. Look at that.

Oh, come on now. Don't you hate America? Yeah. Don't you hate America and our decisions? I hate it a lot. Yeah, dude. All right, all right. He's throwing.

I should got him going on. He just throwing it. See, we need to make GLP-1's illegal. Where? Why is that? Because you got girls with thick Latina ass trying to get on a GLP1. You're going to ruin it. For what?

To confine to white beauty standards. To get to white beauty standards. You're kind of talking. Which is not what we want as proud. you know, rasa, right? We don't, no. It's that Mexican? You get what I'm saying.

You get the vibe. You get the vibes. They're not all the same. They're not all the same. They're not all the same. I see how you feel that. I know. Also, Rasta.

La Rasta. He doesn't discriminate who does this long. And that's the reality of that. Okay. Why can't I get these people to my lawn? Because they. Well, we don't have lawns. But they cleared out that grass so quick, though.

Did you even see it? Did you? Why did that? make them do landscaping. I think that is a little bit, I think that is a little bit racist. And maybe that was throwing a bone to the whites. Maybe that was Goodell being like,

listen, if you're going to have Latinos out there, at least make them move around some grass. It's all white people in the grass. No, is it really? There's nothing but whites in the grass. No. You know how I knew that? The sway was a little off with it.

Right? It didn't have like a nice little salsa of a bachata to it. A ton. Every once in a while, white just peeks in the little face out. Like, pim-o. They're taking over. But this was good. No, it was awesome. And he gave a shout

to my people at the very end. Can Iro. Oh, now are you Canadian? They did. I'm just saying what he said. Question. And did you guys, did you guys put up anything on Kalshi

for Trump just a drone hooking him? Off of it. I didn't even know what was up on Kalshi. There was a part of me thought like in the middle of this performance he's going to jump out of something. Before his feet even reach the platform,

he was just going to get claw machine. Claw machines right out of there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I saw that one, I'll go, I would have been. Okay, fair enough. Those are the things you need. Well, some people are saying that Trump's response was scheduled.

Because look at the time that it came out. 8 p.m. This is central time. It came out at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard. Okay. But it basically says worst halftime show ever, knows creativity. This shit sucked. Also, we do need to fix the NFL kickoff rule.

It's crazy. Make America Great again. And people are like, oh, this was a vague, scheduled post that someone made. Hold on one second. What time was the performance? Like, was this after the... I don't know. I don't know. It did come out after the performance,

but it was scheduled at exactly 9 o'clock. They were like, oh, yeah, it'll be done and we'll just schedule it for the hour. Got it. Okay. We're supposed to sit here and believe that Trump doesn't enjoy watching some girls from the island's work?

Is that what we're supposed to believe? You would never, dude. There's no way, right? These girls are the wrong migrants, all right? They need to be Eastern European on a private jet. But are you alleging, are some people online alleging that he already had a response baked up

prior to the performance? You're saying that he didn't watch the performance objectively and then react? Well, it's funny is I think he did actually watch performance. That people are calling a Trump a traitor. Why? Because he was popping his head to that? Because he was apparently watching it. He didn't put on the turning point USA one. I just saw that on Twitter. That might be

not true. Did you guys watch the turning point USA one? Yes, of course, man. That shit was gas. I saw, you know, white speaking English, you know, bar with the bar, the bang the bang. Yeah. I was on stage. I was on stage that. I was on stage that's like, that's the same joke.

It was like, I was listening to the one in Spanish and I was like, I don't understand anything of this. And I turned to the turning point of USA and it was just, blah, what to ball in the pain? I was like, nobody's speaking English in America. But that's the thing. That's so annoying. People are like, dude, I don't even understand the lyrics.

I've never understood the Super Bowl halftime show lyrics. Never? Like, do you know the lyrics? Like, Shakira did a Super Bowl halftime show. La da da da da da. What is the rest of it? I don't like how you actually tried to sing. I don't like,

nah, I'm sorry. You're like, no, no, no, no, no. I don't like, I don't like, hold on, talk it.

Now, you're going back to Canada. You know, no, no. I don't like that. Canada. You made an effort to sound. I'm sorry, but you have a good voice, okay?

I'm sorry that God granted me with these unbelievable pipes, dude, and I just know how to sing. Also, I do have an ear clogged. I have an ear clogged right now, so I haven't, I have an ear clogged right now, so I was even maybe a little off pitch.

but all that is say Shakira does his halftime show No one knows what she's saying Lady Gaga saying in English I don't even know what song it was I mean He got a little bit of a point But fuck

I don't know the lyrics bro Like I don't know any of the lyrics This is us This is us Who's that on the right That's Erica Kirk Throwing it down So what is the argument

She sings? Yes bro This is AI Please tell me this is AI It's not Bro is not She's a No fucking wait

He's a studio recording artist. Stop it. What? Branley Gilbert. Oh. Brandly Gilbert. All right. Yeah.

No. No. Come to Joey. What is? Joey. Take the computer and smack it over your head. Take the computer, close it, and then break it over the top of your head. Come on.

This is Gabby Barrett. Oh. God. Yeah, but she got Erica Kirkface. What does that mean? It's like a little... You know what I mean. Al, Al, Danz.

Yeah, he go. That was Miles with the racism and Al allowing you. That, he doesn't feel uncomfortable. I need to put that together. He told you to tab dance and you were up there

hitting the pants, Alex, and you immediately got a, whoa. Oh, man. I was trying to get out of them. I didn't think about it either. I know. See, see. You know my heart. Love beats hate, man.

Love does be hate. Love beats hate. And these are haters over here. Miles watched 15 seconds of the turning point halftime show and immediately told a black man to dance. No. I'm sorry, man. That's on me.

I wasn't thinking. Damn. So what is the argument against bad money doing the halftime show? Is it that he said things that are not supportive of America in the past and they're upset about that? Like, let's say he was like a Cuban-American, like, die-hard America, conservative, love everything about America, and also performed in Spanish. Would they be that upset about that?

Well, I think there's a lot of dumb Americans that think Puerto Ricans aren't U.S. citizens. That's part of it. They can't truly believe that. No, there's like some, some get punched in the head a lot, and then they think they're fake Americans. Oh, wait. I feel like this is targeted. You know, I'm just saying there's some people that are dumb and think that Puerto Ricans aren't you of citizens. To those people, I would say, fuck you.

But like, who are you talking about? I'm just saying, bro. I'm just saying if they're talking about Jake Paul. That's what it feels like right now. Wait, wait. Is he dumb? Does he not know that American? I mean, Puerto Ricans are American citizens.

Well, he must know because he lives there. I mean, I would think he knows. Wait, wait, wait, wait, turn off the halftime. A fake American citizen. Oh, no, he's a dummy. he's a fucking dummy so fuck Jake Paul and fuck everybody

you had him on the pod you invited him on the pod guess that was him it was Logan no you invited Jake on the show you wanted to talk to him specifically yo y'all all look alike

because I thought we had the other one we had both of them on when we were talking to Tony and Uncle Murrow last week did you think it was just you were seeing double they were twins I wouldn't say that

no but this is really corny and I see you backtracking it now so if you So what did he initially say? Why don't you bring up the initial tweet, Joey? I think this is the initial one, yeah. Was it?

Yeah. Okay, he goes purposely turning off the halftime show. Let's rally together and show big corporations. They can't just do whatever they want to without consequences, which shows too much of my accent. Oh, sorry. Which equals viewership for them.

Turn off this halftime, a fake American citizen performing who publicly hates America. I cannot support that. Dude, he got hacked, bro. he said he got hacked. No, he didn't. Maybe there's a typo. Maybe he typed it wrong.

Maybe. Uh-oh. Yeah, that's what happens when you start talking about Jake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Miles takes your mic. Shut your ass up and go back to the answer. Yo, Miles, fix my mic, bitch.

Damn. There we go. Deserve. All right, we got, we back. We go, we back. All right, so what happened? So Jake said that, I don't understand the fake American citizen thing.

I don't even make sense. He knows there American citizens. He lives there. I don't think he does. I think he got punched the head too many times by Anthony Joshua. So you think he forgot? Yeah, yeah. I think he's like acutely aware that it's part of America

because there's a very favorable tax code there. Oh, that's true. But maybe that's all he knows about the island. Ah, so it's like a tax haven. Yes, yeah. Bro, it's being misinterpreted, bro. He's literally said the problem with my tweet is that the word fake is being misinterpreted.

He's not a fake citizen, obviously, because he's Puerto Rican, and I love Puerto Rico and all Americans who support the country. More so, Fat Bunny's fake because his values and criticisms are a great country. You were intentionally trying to misinterpret his tweet because you're a hater because you have JDS. All right. So if that's funny. You have JDS, dude, you got Jake to rage.

That is funny. You're hating on a friend of the show. One of your homies that you invited come on the podcast. You're just hating on them for views and clicks. You're rage baiting right now. If his apology is genuine, I'll give him grace. But I think that came just because he got a lot of backlash. And if that's the case, then fuck him.

This is an unfortunate thing because, like, Jake did just get knocking. knocked out, but lasted way longer than anybody thought. And people were, like, really supportive, I think of Jake. After that, there, of course, there are people like, you know, this is what happens when you fight a real boxer, et cetera. But I think deep down there's a little part of like, holy shit, this kid's kind of brave. He starts boxing his 20s, and he goes and gets knocked out by Anthony Joshua, jawbroken.

And maybe like the first time in his entertainment career post like Disney, where it felt like there was kind of unanimous, not unanimous, but majority support. Yeah. People then maybe had a little bit of respect for him. Maybe respect is a better thing. It's like, I don't like your antics and I don't like some of these fights, but I respected you were able to go in there and get your ass kicked and tried your hardest. Yeah. And then he says this and people are like, what the fuck you're doing? It was so crazy. I thought he was trolling. Like I was like, oh, Jake's working towards some fight with somebody. I thought so also. And then if you go to his grant, he's doing a hard shift to

of that, the MAGA crowd. He's doing a real hard shift. Interesting. And so, hey, if that's what time you're on, then, how about that? That's it. Well, he says, if you're publicly criticizing ICE from just doing their jobs, then

he's going to speak on it. So you might get clipped. You might get clipped. Do you think he's coming for us? Yeah, bro. He's calling you a fake citizen, bro. Am I a fake citizen? You're a fucking Puerto Rican. You're Bodecoe. Hit the music, Miles. Come on. He's really calling his Puerto Rican.

But yeah, that is, it is funny because people are mad at bad bunny. He's literally, I mean, I saw someone say he's more American than Trump. I thought that was a funny take. Because technically, he's been on Puerto Rico and like his family lineage in Puerto Rico goes farther back. And Puerto Rico is a part of America for farther back than Trump's ancestors. Ooh. Because like this. I like Scotland in the 30s or something.

I don't have the data. I don't want to be critical of your take, but like. Not my to. I don't. I, but, you know. once you're American you're American. Nobody's more American because their family is here longer.

No, dude, you're more American. If you're George Washington's kid, you're more American. My ancestors were here for a long time. 100% do our ancestors were here from hell long. Yeah. Unlike your Scottish ancestors that came over. Yeah, yeah. In the 80s or whatever.

That's good. At least they weren't... So there's level... Yeah, exactly. I missed all the bad shit. Exactly. You know, you less American, but... Yeah, so you got to catch up. You got to make up for it.

You got to start doing bad shit now. No, I can't do that. I can't support that. Crime. I did get lucky, though. Because, like, my German side came here before... For Hitty? Before, yeah, before Tucker Carlson's favorite time in history.

And when my Scottish family came after all the fuck shit. Yeah. So this is, like, perfect. Like, they got after slavery before World War II. I'm in a nice little zone in terms of, like, low amount of... of guilt. We just got to get your name out of the Epstein files. Did you search people's names behind? Of course. I searched somebody.

That's a first thing I did. First I searched mine. See if I'm popping. Did you get any shots? Nothing. Nothing? Nothing. Damn. Nobody used the studio? Fuck. What did Steve Bannon used when he did that interview with Epstein? He did he go to WTF Media?

Nah. I think that might have been that. Bannon did the interview in Alex's studio. And you know he would have taken that money in a heartbeat. They would have given me a discount. There's no quick. Give me some tax advice. Nah, nah. We taxed those guys.

Would you build a studio in 2015? You're saying that you're looking into the criminal record of all the people that you build studios for? Or do you have a policy where if people have prior convictions, they're not allowed to record in your studio? Trader. I think I'm going to dance now. Come on. Hit the music. How many criminals?

How many career criminals? What the fuck is happening? I've recorded in WTF Media Studios. Guaranteed the next step see list. Whoever the next step scene is like 20, 30 years from now, 100% some of his cronies recorded there. Hey, my studio's popular studio. That's what I'm saying.

You're like the island. Everybody wants the ghost. So we can't use his actual name. The fuck you do. You can't use his actual name, even though we should search it in front of all of us. Yeah. Nah, but I definitely searched everything. I searched the fake one, the real one, everything.

Mm. Nothing. Yeah. Clean. Clean. Damn. There's a lot of gags in there. I'm just saying, there's a lot of gags in there.

Miles didn't give me so much shit because he was like, yeah, dude, like my family's not in it. No way. I searched his last name immediately. He was like 10 results. And I was like, all right. Yeah. Let's say you that, Mouse. It's a woman on the board of trustees for an event that Epstein wanted to go to.

How convenient. Is it a relative? So he couldn't even get into your family. Not that I was fired. You think that my family is on the board of trustees and a prestigious New York charity? Why not? The part of the family I don't talk to your side. But no, I looked it up.

I looked deep in it. I was like, all right, well, let's see. If my last name's in here, I want to know what's going on. Bro, the Epstein shit is just so crazy. We were talking about this before. How do you actually even untangle the web of debauchery and criminality that's connected with all the most elite institutions and people around the world? I don't know how.

I don't know if there's like a singular thread that like ties everything neatly together. Yo, sometimes he just puts together a set. You love that. Yo, I can try to recite the shit and it's not going to come out. I'll sing him. It was nice. I should have a carrot. God, damn.

It's insane. My mom was right the whole time. Yeah. That elite satanic pedophiles are running the government. You know his mom's a lib now? Oh, yeah. You were saying she went full out. Yeah, she's fully swung all the way back around.

Respect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's just crazy. Like, you go through the emails and you're just like, okay, everyone's kind of connected. Yeah. They've only released half for the record. Yeah.

And it's enough to incriminate everyone. Isn't that crazy? Wait, it don't have. I thought we're like that two thirds now. I don't know, but there's like a few million more. Jeez. I think the total, like, that was recovered, like, six million individual files. And they've released like three million or something to that effect.

Wow. When Massey and Roe and the rest of Congress got to see unredacted files that were still redacted, those are of the three million that we've all seen. I'm not sure. It's certainly that because they're looking at some of the stuff that's censored and redacted, that they're like, we're going to just go on the floor and say, all the names. Yeah. But it seems like, to me at least, that they're also getting access to the

unreleased. As my suspicion, I don't know exactly that, but that's what I think. But you think they've seen those already. And then what about us getting, what about us getting the unreleased? Well, there's conversation about are they going to release more? And are they able to release more through Trump's administration still, you know, protect

their interests, whatever they may be? What are the odds we get? What does Cali say? Is there a CalChi market for will we get the rest of the Epstein files this month? We're not getting that shit. There's no way. There's no way, right?

Like, if it's this bad already and they're giving us, and these are the sacrificial lambs, there's no way we're getting more. There's this, that will Trump release more Epstein files this month? 37% chance. I don't believe it until, like, some random account bets a million dollars

the day before the release. Like, you can really tell who has the insider information when a fucking trillion dollars get put on an obscure bet. Is Maduro going to get captured? And they'll just a million dollars the day before? wonder why you thought that. I wonder why you're willing

to put up a million dollars. And then Trump's talking about Barron, like, yeah, he just does the stuff with the computer. He's amazing. How does he figure it out? So what was to say? 37% Trump will release more Epstein files

this month. No way. No fucking chance. I mean, it was at 10% it seems like it's going up. But after this fallout, you think they're willing to release more? In my mind, I'm like,

what does Trump have to lose? Everyone thinks that he's already implicated. Everyone thinks that he's already, like, his reputation has already been dragged through the mud so much. Well, what's the other half? If we got the half that's already... That's my point. Everyone already, he's the president of the United States and everyone thinks that he's already done the most treacherous, debauchous crimes. What he has to lose is that all the information of him actually being all that shit.

The confirmation. But it affects everyone else also. His reputation is already tarnished. He don't give a fuck about other people. But I'm saying if all the information comes out, like a rising tide lifts all boats, A lowering tide lowers all boats And he's already at the bottom of the ocean So he's like, yeah, just bring everyone else down

And he's the last one standing Because his reputation is already destroyed I don't know So you think that what is he worried that like There won't be enough room in the jail Like what is it? Like yeah we all go down Maybe I won't go to jail

Because it's too full I mean I'm just saying Is that what they're building those concentration camps for? What if it's not for ice? Oh, what if it's for the elites? Then we like it. All of a sudden we're okay with it Exactly.

If they just got all locked up in those things they're building, that's fine. And we get to view them. If they were building like pretty resorts, then I would believe that. No, make them fucking suffer. Don't you think? You want pretty resorts for the people

that have been trafficking in children? Trump is building his future home, so I think he would make it nice. Yeah, but he doesn't think it's for him. But we know it is. You know, come on, man. Allegedly, this is all allegedly. Allegedly, all the people that are in power,

we just want to let you know. all legions. Yeah, exactly. No one did anything wrong. No one is done anything wrong. Which, for the record, I'm not an expert on this. I'm not a journalist. This is just me with an internet connection, Google and shit, trying to figure it out. Yeah. We should get an expert. Well, next week, we're going to have an interesting one for you. Put it that way. We're going to do a nice little deep dive.

So they can break it down for real, but now we can just beefs. Now we're going to talk our shit. Yeah, yeah. That's a lot of shit. Let's us get to the bottom of it. All of our tour dates in less than 30 seconds. Providence, Rhode Island, March 28th. Los Angeles, with jelly roll, the Greek theater, part of the Netflix comedy festival.

That's May 8th. August 8th, Halifax, Nova Scotia. Mark, go. Washington, D.C. and Charlotte, North Carolina, the weekend of February 19th. I can't wait to see you guys there. Peace and love. Are those images of the guy that looks exactly like him in Israel, real?

Have you seen this? No, you guys blow up my plan. Somehow Al doesn't know about this. You've been so important reconsidering since the half time. The only thing about Epstein that's on my timeline is Jayzee. That's the only fucking thing. Did you see Jack Dorsey wearing, he's the guy from Twitter? Yes.

Wearing the Epstein shirt right next to Jay in the booth at the Super Bowl? No. So him and Jay are in the booth together. As AI. Wait, I see him. What is AI? Stop it. Go get the picture of Jayzie and Jack Dorsey, I think his name is.

Yeah. In the Morgan Epstein shirt? It's just a black shirt. with the yellow writing that just says Epstein on it. And then right next to him is Jay-Z. I'm sure the shirt means like, hey, release the files, right? That's like some... I'm wondering if it's like a protective thing,

which is basically like, I'm going to be in a booth at the Super Bowl. The chances that 90% of the people around me have fucked kids on an island are high. I need to wear this shirt to make it clear that I'm not down with that shit. Okay. That's a weird way to do it.

Apparently it's fake, sadly. Oh, really? Oh, see? Hey, come on, you fucking boomer. He's wearing a shirt that apparently says Satoshi on it in the same color. Like the crypto, the Bitcoin. You can get coal by the way. I asked it.

I asked it. I don't think you act. You said, did you? Do you think they rolled out? Do you think they rolled out AI on purpose? To fuck with you? It's not. No, bro.

That's a great conspiracy. What? There's a great conspiracy around this. Which is. That like letting the Epstein files out at the same time that AI is becoming like incredibly hard to tell the difference between was a planned timeline. Yeah. Because now you just completely disorder reality. We don't know what to believe.

We don't know what is true, what is false. And every bit of information we consume, it looks so salacious that it can't possibly be true. And we're consuming things that are not true that aren't even that crazy. Like him just wearing the Epstein shirt, that could be done not out of support for Epstein. but he's basically, it's like when people wearing the Epstein didn't kill himself merch, you remember that? Like, I thought he was doing it out of protest of the powerful individuals he might be seated next to in the booth. The shirt's kind of tough, to be honest.

The Satoshi one's kind of fire. But yeah, it's like a hell of a glow up too, man. He looks like Jason Bourne. Oh, Dorsey? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, he's kind of a piece. You're not going to crazy. Yeah.

He's good, good hair line. He can. He sees that forehead. He's trying to do. Don't try to make big forehead. That's what I'm saying. I'm the worst guys ever. Big brain time.

That's what it is. Stonehenge right there. All right. All right. So let's go. What are the craziest things we've seen in the Epstein files? Bill Gates catching an STD.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we talked about that on Patreon a little bit. Oh, you did. For the record, hilarious. A hilarious. Why was they said? Patreon is for Patreon. Because we had David filling.

Oh, yeah. And the comments were just ripping. They're killing them. They're killing them. They're killing them. Just all the comments being like, I try to give this guy a chance What a douchebag

Put his foot on the table the first minute What's wrong with him? Who called David a hate sponge? Oh, Miles. Me. He just absorbs all the hate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you ever have a controversy,

if there's some heat on you, you hang out with David, people go, that guy's worse and then just sucks to him, dude, immediately. Yeah, it's kind of smart. Keep them mind. Keep that in mind, dude. You know, David.

Okay, so is the... The Bill Gates thing's wild. Is it true? Is it an actual email correspondence? Kind of. From what I'm able to understand, they did obviously meet up and talk post 2008 conviction. Right.

But we know that. There's like two different kind of things happening in the emails. There's the emails with Bill Gates reaching out to Jeffrey Epstein asking for stuff. And the story as it's coming up on Twitter, which again, I'm not an expert allegedly is on all this. Don't sue me. But basically he's saying, basically Bill Gates is saying, I need antibiotics from Jeffrey Epstein. So I can surreptitiously put it into my wife, Melinda's drinks because I did contract an STT after being with Russian prostitutes.

Now, why is he going to Epstein? What's all this about? The most interesting thing to me is that there's an email from Jeffrey Epstein to himself, basically laying all of this out in very plain English about Bill Gates. And it seems like it's supposed to be sent to Bill or someone within his circle. Basically, what feels like a blackmail email, basically saying, like, you know, if you want to do this deal, that's fine. But, you know, let the record show that I helped you out with this. And you've reached out to me for this thing. And you reached out to me about these antibiotics with these Russian prostitutes. Whether that email actually got sent to Bill, we don't know.

But the fact that it's drafted to himself in such a way that makes it seem like he's trying to extort Bill Gates is crazy. Yeah. And just really validates what a lot of people feel about this guy being, you know, some type of espionage spy blackmailing the operator. I think he meant to send it to himself because like for me, if I want some to keep something important, I'll text it to myself and now I just go to my text history and I know all the important shit right there. And you keep it on deck and that way if something happens, you can just fire it off to him immediately. Exactly. So that's sort of the story with that. Why is Bill Gates reaching out to Epstein specifically?

So yeah, this is to Jeffrey Epstein from himself, which J.E. vacation is still just like the funniest thing to me. But he's doing like a vacation email is how he's like conducting like his entire criminal enterprise. Like Jeffrey Epstein's sweepstakes and Jeev, it's just like hilarious to me. Regardless, he basically says towards the bottom, I've not come to this decision quickly or without a great deal of thought during the past few weeks. I've caught up in a severe marital speed between Bill and Melinda. I have the greatest respect for my friend of seven years, making the date, very specific. I wish them both well. In my role as his right hand, I have been asked on multiple occasions, and in hindsight,

wrongly acquiesced into participating in things that I've ranged from morally inappropriate to ethically unsound and have been repeatedly asked to do things that get near and potentially over the line into illegality. Though it was kindly suggested I would make a transaction to a new position over my six years of service yada yada generous package i felt it would be dishonest to myself from helping bill get drugs in order to deal with consequences of sex with russian girls to facilitating his illegal trists with married women to be being asked to provide adderall for bridge tournaments hilarious detail i feel i owe it to my friends and future colleagues to admit a moral failure to ask forgiveness and to move on with my life so it's like this stepping down email to a bunch of people where he includes all the fuck should the bill ever ask him to do

including getting Adderall for a bridge tournament, which is just so funny. What's bridge? It's like a game. Old people play like a card game. But imagine it in the best you'd be like, yo, I need the Addies. That's. I need the addies because we're playing cars. And Bill Gates is like, I'm not getting fucked over by Larry Summers and Tom Fritzker anymore

at this bridge tournament on the island. He locked in him. Yeah. I need to be absolutely dialed. It's just so funny to me. Okay. Crazy, right? Why would he send that email to himself?

having it on deck so that he can fire it off to... Is he sending a warning shot to all these different people? Well, I don't know who got sent to. I'm assuming he got sent to himself to log it. Yeah, and does someone else, i.e., some intelligence agency, have access to his email? And this is like a reminder to them. Hey, by the way, we got something on Bill in case you need it. Possible?

Why would you not just call? Was email technology so new that all these boomers were like, there's no way they'll be able to hack it? Right? Because they're speaking quite comfortably on email. I mean, he's been navigating in this world for a long time. But the other guys are also doing it. Yeah.

Like the other people emailing him are doing it with no regard for their own personal safety. Yeah. Especially if you're, like, involved in nefarious activity. You think that you'd be like, I don't want there to be a paper trail this. Yeah. Like, this is Bill Gates a billionaire drawing a hooker. Allegedly. Allegedly.

Like isn't that like number one Thing you don't do? Like even if you have nothing You don't raw a hook owl I'm saying like if he's a wild boy And he's moving around like this But the cost of raw is a hooker to all of your other Like fathering a kid out of wedlock

Yeah Insane to a guy like that Yeah But I also think he has a type of money He can have people disappear if he wanted to So now you're adding like Crazier layer there Which is like okay

If I do get this girl pregnant they'll just be sulfuric acid. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Wow. That's some gnarly. Which apparently industrial amounts of sulfuric acid was sent to Epstein's Island.

Yeah, the day after he was indicted, right? Seriously? And then like 30 gallons of it are sent to the island. And that's probably for other stuff. Yeah. You know, it's probably not to just melt the body of children. A guy can't buy some sulfuric acid anymore. Just for you and the boys?

Yeah. You got a big bridge tournament? You don't know what's going to go on. You gotta light some shit on fire. Bro. Yeah. Imagine playing a car game with your boys being like, I need drugs from a pedophile. I mean, bro, you're taking it way too serious.

Also, there's no way you can't get Adderall at the office. Like, you work with engineers. They're constantly- Call the guy that invented Adderall. Exactly. Why are you going to fucking Jeffrey Epson unless Adderall is code for something else? And Bridge is code for something else. Oh.

I need Adderall for Bridge. I actually need. Viagra Four kids Oh they fucking got them You guys fucking cracked See we cracked the case Every single stuff

This is not funny Why is he so happy about this Because it rhymes At the end of the day It's just like ooh That was clever Just you guys be like bro We fucking got them

That's the other part of this Is like solving it You do feel like Scooby-Doo a little bit Yeah You know Everybody's detectives with this shit It does put you in that position and there is something. Like, imagine why?

Kids are getting fucked. Sorry. I know. Yeah, this is not funny. You look like Howard Lutnik. I know, I know. What a fucking sociopath. Is that all this is also?

It's just like when you collect sociopaths at the highest level and they're all engaging with one another, they can operate with somewhat normalcy while all this is going on. Like the average person would be like shitting themselves. Right? Yeah. Like the average person that had sent insane emails

to Jeffrey Epstein is probably not coming on the podcast and being a dick when Mark asks him what his stack is. The average person... That was great.

I just love the fact that he was shitting on you, but... Oh my God, Mark was so happy when he read Peter and Tia's name all over the files and Peter was acting

like the loosest motherfucker on the planet. He wouldn't even tell you what supplements he took. And he's fucking emailing Epstein. Oh, I wish you had your life. You're such a naughty little boy. What was this personality that he was devoid of on this podcast?

He asked to come on. I know. Yeah. I asked him about supplements and he was like, I don't want to talk about supplements. And I was like, his pussy carb free. And he was like, dude, I'm glad you brought up. How'd you asked? Yeah. I know you felt good about that one. No, bro. Come on. No, because you don't want, I don't want bad things

happen to people? I don't want, I don't want this to be true. Exactly. I don't want the reality of the world to be that all of our institutions are run by satanic pedophiles. But if that is the case, a little piece of when they're mean to me. Yes. Yes. That was God right there.

See? God works a very mysterious way. It's the most mysterious ways. This guy was sort of subtly passive to Mark. Well, guess what? He, but his whole family's reputation was destroyed forever. Girl. Yeah. Shout out of God.

Dude, this is mysterious. This is beyond me, dude. I don't get it. Yeah. Any other thoughts? I mean, it's just insane. It is insane the amount of people connected and how sycophantic they were towards him. Yeah. There's an interesting element of like,

just like high school locker room dynamics never really changing. Like, obviously Epstein was running like this extremely vile and treacherous sex trapping operation, much of which involving young women, and also was convicted for trying to procure a young woman for prostitution in 2008. So, like, he's obviously, you know, debauchous. Yeah. But the fact that he has access to women, prostitutes, drugs, most likely, this island, extreme connections with all these people, that type of influence just draws in everyone. And the fact that everyone's, like, think that's an element. I think it's an element, at least from the Elon emails that Elon's reaching out to him be like,

hey, is there a party? And Jeffrey's like, oh, maybe. And he's like, I want the craziest party of all time. I want the wildest one. That was the saddest shit I've ever seen. And Epstein's like, oh, yeah, man. Like, he's trying to talk in code. He curbed Elon. He was too hungry.

Is Elon the corniestest billionaire? Dude. I mean, they're all wildly corny. He might be the corneous. He might be the corniest. Bezos's not in it at all. I'm really shan. Like, he's obviously like on emails and like different dinners and shit because he was selling books online

Giorgos is on to big booty Latinas, bro. Exactly. Bezos is on the Bendito tip. He was on Bandito, dude. It's Bendito, Al. It's Bendito, get it right. It's Benito. We're trying to figure out this web

of pedophile elites. We can't figure out this guy's name. My boy, he's so funny. She's hard. So, so Bazzo's not. So Basil's not involved at all? I can't say that for sure.

Or his name isn't up in it? I mean, I haven't even heard anyone mention his name. It seems like there was like an email for like dinners and shit like that. But I don't know if it's like he's implicated in the way that Elon and the rest of the dudes are. But I don't know. The fact that Elon is trying to go to the parties and Wow. And Epstein's just like, hey man, we actually canceled the parties.

The island blew up. We don't do that anymore. And he's basically dead in the whole thing. It's so funny. He sent that email on Christmas Day. This guy got like 11,000 kids. And on Christmas Day, he's wondering, where's the crazy party up? Ain't that crazy?

So here's the thing. Elon's on this whole tirade where he's trying to expose everything online. Like you see him doing PR on Twitter. And I'm going to pay for the defense of any of the victims if they want to talk out and they're worried about getting suit, et cetera. But it is, he is in like a unique situation because, yeah, he didn't go to the island, but he desperately

tried to go to the wildest party. Like if Ebstein was like, ah, we just kind of have like a normal party today. He was like, well, when's the wildest one? Right. And that means he must have heard that wild shit happens at the island. Absolutely. Because why even suggest that?

Yeah. Like if you're going over to your nerd friend's house, you're not going, when's the wildest dinner? You know your nerd friend is boring dinners and you're like, okay, I'll just come to Andy Turner. He's specifically asking for the wildest shit. So that means bare minimum, he heard some wild shit goes on.

So bare minimum, it's hoes on the island. Legal hoes, bare minimum. Bare minimum. Right? I mean, I think he says so much. He's like the amount the ratio or something like that is going to make your girl jealous or make her feel uncomfortable or something like that. He's like just the amount of women that are going to be there is going to make

Touloula uncomfortable. Because does he try to go with his girl? That's what one of them says It's like it's just gonna be me and me and my wife So he's basically writing back like Yo don't bring you bitch Epstein was basically like Yeah

Why is he trying to bring his girl Yeah it says understood I will see you at St. Bart's So this is not The ratio on my island might make Talila Toilah but Tallulah is actually Yeah Tulila uncomfortable And then ratio is not a problem for Tallulah

Whoa Which laptop factor. Also, how does Epstein type so bad? Every email has a typo. Like, what is... Well, it's very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Every email is a typo. Lots of dots. Some of us... Can we just hold on a second? Of all the things there are to be upset about this. Okay, no. We've already talked about the things that are upset about. Spouting and punctuation are the ones that are really viling you up right now.

That's part of it. That's the thing that makes me most uncomfortable. This fucking Epstein guy. I know. Right? It's the hypocrisy. How does he misspell people's names? It's the hypocrisy.

Okay, that's really what it is. What was that? Who said that? That's Norm. He's talking about Cosby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, yeah, you know, the worst part of the Cosby thing is the hypocrisy. I think he's the child.

Yeah. But yeah, it's like, oh, the fact that everything is misspelled. I'm just trying to understand that, and we've been talking about this before, but I'm just trying to understand the leverage point that he has on all these people. Right? Like, you look at the, he did this interview with, Steve Bannon, who's trying to, like, rehab his image, right? Yeah. And he's unimpressive in it.

Like, you know, he doesn't seem like some, like, mastermind genius. You know, he just kind of seems like a goof a little bit. Now, I'm not saying that he can't also be a smart guy and understand finance or whatever the fuck it is. But clearly he has some sort of leverage over powerful people. And that leverage might have nothing to do with the kid fucking. Like, I think he must have leverage over the government. That's interesting. I don't see it as leverage.

I feel like he's just become like the fixer. He's the go-to guy for everything. You want the hose. You want the drugs. You want the weapons. You want fix my image. How do you do that without fear of retribution in some way? And I think you need to have leverage.

Right? So like my assumption with him is that like he was doing money laundering. By money laundering, I don't mean like breaking bad shit where you're putting money through a fucking car wash. You don't have to pay taxes. I'm talking about like moving weapons from different countries. Yeah. Right. In order to do that, like in order to get like American weapons into Iran so they can fight Iraq, you need some sort of middleman now. I think there was a time back in the day where America could just do it

itself. And then you were bringing up, it was like the Church Act or something like that. Yeah, the Church Committee. The Church Committee, basically, where now you need to disclose exactly what's going on. And then the United States government is like, well, we can't do that because we're fucking breaking the law around the world. So they needed these intermediaries. So my assumption is they pluck this guy from finance. Now, if you're a brilliant financial dude, you're just going to go make 100. of millions of dollars in finance. If you're a guy who's not very risk-averse at all, but might not think that he can climb the ladder of finance,

but it's still a sociopathic fucking maniac who wants power and wealth, you might be willing to do a job like that. And if, in fact, he starts working for our government, other governments, and you would work with these other governments, because in order to get these weapons over there, you might need to hit up his room, be like, okay, we're going to pass through here and get them there. Great Britain is going to.

to know about something going on because they're an ally of ours. So now you're interfacing with their spy networks. You're interfacing with their, whatever, their version of like a CIA is. Ami-6? You're interfacing with all these intelligence agencies around the world, and they kind of know you as this intermediary. And now we, quote, have to have one so we can do bad shit around the world without it coming back to our pocketbooks, which you can check.

So now all of a sudden, he's in a position of leverage with the United States government because he gets to go, listen, if you guys arrest me for this little tax thing that we're doing over here, why would you do that? Is it really worth it to do that to me knowing what I've done for you guys? And God forbid, that got out. And as long as none of this stuff became like a massive news story, because my first thought is like, all right, well, why don't they just kill him? If they know that he has this leverage over them, just fucking kill him, get him out of him. And no one knows who he is. And then I found out that once it became a massive story, within a month, they killed him. Right? So like he gets indicted. And I think within a month of

him being indicted, he's dead in jail. And what about the first time, Rooh? Well, the first time around he gets that little sweetheart deal, he probably gets a sweetheart deal because he's connected. But it's not such a massive story that they have to get him out of here. And he's still useful to the government. And they did kill the story because there was that one girl that was about to put story out. And then they killed the story. So, like, all right, this doesn't become a national news story. And things were much easier to control.

Remember, back in the day, you have a handful of people that were organizing the, you know, what we're consuming on everyday basis in the different media organizations. And those handful of people were probably on that fucking island with him or doing a little. nefarious activity. Like, we see how connected the billionaire in elite class is. It's almost like every conspiracy that you could possibly concoct about the ultra wealthy has been proven true here. Like this idea that, like, there's this, what is it? There's a group of insiders.

What was Julian saying? There's that famous quote. It's like, there's a great big club and you ain't in it. Yeah. You know, and who said it? George Carlin. Carlin said it. Yeah.

And so, yeah, to me, it's like he must have. have some leverage on the government. And then I was speaking to Saga about this. And he said that multiple times he, what is called, FOIA? FOIA. FOIA. Yeah. Foyed. Freedom of Information Act.

So multiple times, and he pressed whom for that? The CIA? I don't know. The FBI? I don't know what the, anyone can do a FOIA. Yeah. About yourself. About anything.

Well, he did it. He asked the government to look up his file or his connection. He did the Freedom of Information Act. And he did that twice. On himself. On himself. And to me, what that is, it's a messaging to the government like, hey, you might want to look up. Like, things may have changed and the people in charge may have changed, but I want the current ones to know what I've done.

So I want you guys to do a little research. Now you know, you're going to let me get away with this shit. Or now you know, hey, listen, this bank, you know, they did some tax evasion shit. I think the Rothschild Bank in Switzerland there was an email. And like they paid Epstein like $25 million to like decrease the settlement for them. And it's like, well, why was he able to decrease the settlement? sediment. Settlement. Well, it's like, well, maybe he knows some people on the inside. And he has some leverage in the United States government. He's like, hey, can you do me a favor? Let's not

make this ugly. You know? And, but again, in order for all these people to have such a sycophantic relationship with him, he needs to have leverage over somebody incredibly powerful. And then with that leverage he has over the incredibly powerful people, he can then gain leverage over all these other people. But he needs to come from a point of strength at one point. Right? Like, why else is everybody kissing his ass? So where did it initially come from? Exactly. Because he's rich. It's like there's so many people that are rich. Right? Like there needs to be some power structure that is put in place with him. And my assumption is that he basically had dirt on not only our government, but every other government that he was working for or working with. And that put him in a uniquely powerful situation where he didn't really have to abide by the law. And when he did break it, they would let him get off. And it seems to be that is the case until the story got so popular that they were like, all right, well, now it's just, it's cheaper to kill you is what they thought. Yeah again, I don't know, poke holes in this, tell me where I'm off. No, the thing that I'm so curious about is like how early it goes.

Because like his whole come up is still so vague. Like we think we kind of understand it, but like he, you know, goes to school in New York, graduates, whatever. I don't think he graduates. I think he doesn't even. Graduates high school. Yeah, high school. Goes to college, drops out of college. Yeah.

And then is immediately hired at like the most prestigious. This private school. The Dalton school. Dalton. And the headmaster at the time. is William Barr or Donald Barr, which is William Barr's dad. Yeah.

And William Barr, before he was the headmaster, started what will be the CIA. Right. I think it was called something else back in the day. We can look at that. Do you know what it was called? Prior to, no. Anyway, it was under a different name at the time.

The OSS. Office of Strategic Services. You're right, OSS. Damn, my boy. Okay, Jorge. Come on, Jorge. Jorge. I think he did.

I'm not. You got the test. I got it. He's all my fact that. Okay. But yeah, it's like the fact that early on

he's getting connected with these elite circles and from that school is allegedly when he starts meeting really prominent parents of kids that are going there and then is connecting with these parents and then moving up the ranks,

getting to bear's turns, etc. So he gets to bears. But I'm like, he gets this first thing. And I think people overlook that. How difficult is that job to get? To get a job as a teacher at a private school?

The most prestigious private school without having a college degree. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. So is he already being groomed at that point? Is he already being set up to do this? You don't think that's crazy? Is he getting set up by the time he's 19, 20 years old to run this life as a spy?

Like to be a teacher at a public school, you need a master's? Not back in the day. We're talking about, like, I think they would let any idiot teach back in the day. I actually think it was actually quite common. We're like, look this up because I think you're talking a shit right now. Also, the weirdest thing about this photo, his name is spelled wrong. I always thought that was so weird What the

It's I before E? No, it's this T-I-N-E His name is T-E-E-I-N That's what I see right That's what it says No, E-P-S-T-I-N-E Oh, you talk about on the board Oh shit

Oh And he wrote that I was that like it's like a joke I don't know Oh, that's not even his name It's just a weird ripple to me I'm like why is that like that Anyway

That's not Hold on Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Go back to the image because I don't know if people know. Okay, so it looks like, and zoom out a little bit. So it looks like a yearbook picture or something was taken.

And at the bottom, printed is his name. It says math science teacher. And his name is spelled correctly. On the blackboard in the background of the image, his name is spelled E-P-S-T-I-N-E. And the E is kind of cut off.

And why would he spell his name incorrectly? Or is it a student that's spelled his name. Is he doing like a joke? Like, oh, I'm the teacher. I'm the new guy. I can't even spell my name. Like, I don't know.

Okay, so you're thinking that he could be groomed from a very young age. So the question is, and then he gets on the Rockefeller board. How soon after this? I don't even know. Maybe like four years, something like that.

And his explanation with Bannon is so weird. His explanation with Bannon is this. I think he's like at Bair's turns. And he's like, yeah, you see at the time, like, you know, if you had a calculator, one of the T.I.84 calculators, you could do all these very professional computations you had a huge advantage.

And so they poached me and they say, you're going to be on the board of the Rockefeller thing. Because I had a calculator. I'm like, what? Because you have a calculator. You're now on the board of this extremely prestigious organization.

At what age is he on the board? Like 20 something? So this is before Bear Stearns? Why he's at Bear Stearns? Okay. So he spelled booed with his calculator. Yeah, my mind, bro. And like, whoa.

Like, calculators? So got you win? I'm like, crazy. What division was he working at at Bear Stearns? I think he was just like a traitor. And then, like, he was like, working his way up. My understanding is that they placed them in a specific division, right?

And that division could have been used if you were going to launder money to, you know, what's it called transfer weapons around the world. Like if the United States government is doing it, they're not doing it through their own banks. So you're going to have to find a bank with influence where you can't transfer these funds or do other stuff. I forget what the division, BRCC or something like that. Can you look that up? Like what division was he at Bear Stearns?

I think you just said one of the names of our sponsors. He swiftly moved up from an options trader working in the special products division and then advised the bank's wealthiest clients. That's all I have there. What was it? Oh, yeah, Black Rifle Coffee is my bad. I think it was that. I think it was working with Black Rifle Backer. America's Coffee.

America's coffee. A bad ass. Special products division. Special products division at Bear Stearns. advanced it would be wealthy clients on tax mitigation strategies before becoming a limited partner. And then he gets fired, right? Following a violation. But I'm like, look, we can all speculate how he gets his money.

Is it Les Wexner? Is it, you know, Robert Maxwell's secret fortune? Da-da-da-da-da. Or is he being set up from the time that he's 19 years old to be inserted into these institutions? So why him? That's what I don't understand. What does he show at 19 years of age that they're going to let him be one of the most powerful and influential people on the planet.

That's what I don't get. It could have just be coincidence and that, of course, the person that's going to get connected to all these things is the person that's in these institutions, so therefore it's just like, you know, survivor bias.

I don't know. Julian Dory hit us with a fantastic... I don't even... What would you frame this as? Because he's not presenting this as fact. A theory. A fantastic theory. A story, a narrative.

Not like this. Soap opera? So, I guess the lawyer... What was his name? Edwards, who was representing some of the girls that he had assaulted and trafficked down in Palm Beach. I believe of them, I'm not mistaken. The lawyer something Edwards. I believe I could be butchering this. He gets access to interview Epstein's long time, like house cleaner, house manager.

Yeah, Bradley James Edwards. I'm pretty sure this is the case. and they do an interview with him and one of the things he says is like yeah it seems like kind of wealthy like you know when I knew him he was living on the Upper East Side or whatever like that and then in 1992 shit changed

he gets the mansion houses they're talking about buying jets and everything so like something happened around that time and then Julian says in 1991 Robert Maxwell

is he found guilty or is he killed he passes away suddenly after falling off a boat. Bart Maxwell's Galane Maxwell's father. Yeah, this story I'm familiar with. And people are saying Mossad spy but he was also like this media magnet

in the UK. And falls off a boat. Falls off a boat, dies, you know, always happens. But what it happened is that he was getting... He just tried to do a backflip. Backflip

for the first time. That was it. That should happen. Very common. But what had happened apparently his companies had gone broke and he was stealing money from the pension funds of people in the UK and you've heard this story what Julian posits is that that is not the case and they didn't go broke and that

he hired Epstein to essentially extract all of his wealth using his ability to like move and launder money without detection around the world and he takes the wealth on himself and Galane is at his hip because that's her access to his fortune,

or which is really her fortune. But if it maintained under Maxwell's name, obviously we'd go back and pay all those people that they stole money from, etc., all the wealth would be seized. Like they seized everything else, even though there was, I guess, nothing there besides like real estate.

Anyway, interesting theory, how he can go from 1991 to 1992, be worth hundreds of millions of dollars out of nowhere. Who knows if it's actually true? And having money is important... Maybe she's the mastermind in order. Well, some people say that. Yeah, I've heard people say.

Some people say that he's actually working for her. Because it's working up for her. What was the Reddit shit you told me about the other day? Oh, yeah, the Maxwell Hill thing. Did I say about this? This is, no, that the account that was being... Yeah, that this theory is that she's the one that is moderating world news and a bunch of other massive subredits on Reddit,

controlling the daily narrative of what people digest about the world. Learned it from her dad. Her dad, obviously, a media mogul. And, yeah, it's basically just like learns how to control information. She starts the account shortly after Epstein is allegedly. starts the account if this is her shortly after epstein is arrested in like 2006 and uh yeah basically is posting every day 12 times a day about world news geopolitics all this stuff under this account called maxwell hill and then in 2020 when she's arrested the account goes ghost doesn't post

to this day so people are like yeah it's pretty obviously her she has like different sort of british little uh aphorisms inside the messages and things that she's posting she says that her birthday is in December, like the account person says that her birthday is in December, her birthday is December 25th. There are gaps within when she posts that line up with her mother dying, like a three or four a gap, and then also another gap where she's speaking at a conference of some sort. So it could be coincidental. It could be the fact that there's an account with the Maxwell thing, Gleine Maxwell, that's all lining up as possible. And then moderators have so much power on Reddit to make some stuff more popular than others.

so now you're controlling what people see. Yeah. I mean, have you, I mean, the fact that Epstein is meeting up with the Fortune, dude, way early in the game. Yeah, can you break this down? I mean, to my knowledge, basically, the emails revealed that, like, in 2010, 2011, something in that window, Epstein is meeting up with this guy Moot, who is the creator of Fortune, which is just another sort of anonymous messaging board that is massive and can really, like, sway sort of public opinion on the internet.

And basically, after meeting with Epstein, the subreddit poll, politics. is created. Now, is that because Epstein wanted him to create it? Is it because he met this guy and was like, oh, this guy is like a power player? Like, I should create a subreddit or like a, you know, 4chan board to like talk about him, yada yada yada. Why it was created? It's difficult to say. It was created the day after they met.

Yeah. Yeah. But the fact that Epstein is like keeping tabs on these media power brokers in this new era of information and information transfer is very interesting to me. That at this point, he's probably like, what, like 50? something and he's tapping in with like deep cut internet shit did you know about fortune no in 2010 you know what i mean so like he's more savvy about what the new wave of propaganda and media is than almost anyone else and to me that's just like another really illuminating part of this whole thing that like if galane is doing the redid thing and he's tapping to the fortune guy it's like oh they're actively trying to

control what the narratives are around this new generation of media and they were completely right about how people were going to consume media in the future a big bet that he makes you know 15 years ago on Fortune and on Reddit, it turns out that they actually are the hubs of where people get information. I don't know. I find that to be very interesting. Now, it could all just be coincidence and bullshit. Who knows? I'm not an expert.

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Or the Fortnite thing Oh, go go over this I have I heard that the Fortnite debunked it Is that what it was? Yeah There's a theory that went around that was fantastic That basically But also like Fortnite debunked

But also is the CEO of Fortnite In the fucking Pyle You go to the theory I mean to my understanding as it came up. Okay, yeah, it says Epic Games, debunks, viral Epstein, Fortnite account claims.

Basically, there was this thing where Epstein had an Apple account, I believe, that was connected to an Xbox account or something to that extent, with the name Littleest Jeff One. And then someone found a Fortnite account with the same name. Right. And they made this jump basically to say that these are the same people. So Epstein legitimately had a Littleest Jeff One account, But then there's also this other Fortnite account.

And the account had been buying stuff through the time that Epstein was alleged to have died. So people are basically saying, is it possible Epstein's alive? And he got discovered. There's multiple cool wrinkles about the Fortnite thing, because he recognizes the value of like in-game money. And essentially is a form of almost like crypto. And he's seeing this and he's going, oh, wow, people are buying gold or whatever to buy profit. within the game, and this money within the game is actual utility. Yeah, there are robust digital economies that the Fed or the SEC has no access to.

So now, if you're a guy who's in money laundering and you're looking for clever ways to move money around the world undetected, in a world that has become increasingly, I would imagine, skeptical of how money moves around. Maybe not. Maybe all their leads are down and they're part of it and they're making it possible. but I don't think it's that crazy for him to be like, hey, I play this video game. I'm going to transfer you $20 million to do whatever fucking horrible thing that you need to do in this game.

Now, I wonder if they could track them in the game. I wonder if you can get Fortnite to hand over whatever documents. World Warcraft is also. Gamer nerds are pedophiles. That's crazy. Who would think? World Warcraft is also involved in this. Like the idea that people were, they were buying money

from a company that Steve Bannon owned in China that would get in-game money for World Warcraft that you'd be able to buy and then buy in-game items and sell. So there was like a laundering idea that Steve Bannon and Epstein were laundering money through World of Warcraft in 2008. I mean, again, I don't know how

this exactly works, but let's say you are doing it. Let's say you're in China, right? You need to get your Chinese money out of China. You don't trust it. You're buying all this stuff within the video game. Maybe China allows this video game. And then someone on the other end, you're buying that from. You're buying all these things that you don't even fucking need. And then so on the other end that you're buying them from now has your actual real

money and that's turned into whatever currency you want to be turned into. So now your money's out. Now you don't have to buy a duplex in Vancouver. You don't have to go through this whole rigamarole to like own real estate that you're not even going to use to get your money out. Anyway, he's clearly looking for clever ways to move money around undetected. Now, why would you move money around undetected? Now, you're a rich guy you want to not pay taxes, which it seems like none of them do and fuck all of them because of that. But what if you need to move money around because you need to do some pretty nefarious shit around the world? You know, what if you need to pay underage prostitutes?

You know? Well, that was another... I don't think they were getting paid. Somebody's getting paid. Maybe not them. That was one of the emails. Like the procurement process is what people are talking about this. This is a guy, C-O-D, if you could look at the files, S-I-A-D.

It was his last name. And basically, it just went through this whole sort of system with... this guy, I forget his first name, but last name is Siyadh, or Siyadh, I think. And then Jean-Luc Renel, and then, yeah, this guy, Daniel, Daniel Syed. And Jeffrey Epstein basically saying, hey, this guy's going to find us people around Europe. He's going to procure women for us. And then he will then be compensated $3,000 a month for these services. Say again?

Euros. Euros. Sorry. And basically in these emails, it lays out this whole thing, allegedly of how women would be procured through these modeling contracts to then get into Epstein's web, which was just another thing that a lot of people speculated, like, oh, how did this all work? It was a very systemic, organized process that was very businesslike, whereas, like, you had this person that brought in women, and then women would then come in, they would likely be victim slash survivors, and then

they would also, many of the women on the inside would then act as procurers for other women. And so they would be on the inside. And it was like an MLM. Like, you would basically bring in women, either they would get brainwashed, they would be victimized, they would be given a deal, I don't know, and then they would then procure other women. And it was just this entire web. And this email, once again, just kind of puts into concrete detail of how these systems work allegedly. Why aren't the women saying names? Well, I think, one, that's a good question. But two, it's like, if it is a complex web, why don't we know any of the other figures that are involved? Like, why are we just hearing about this Daniel Syad guy? The FBI said there is no one else

involved. Oh, okay, so it's probably nothing. Exactly. So, I mean, in 2008, there was, like, other co-conspirators that were named in that original conviction that all kind of got swept away. Epstein was the only one. And then served, like, an extremely reduced sentence. And, like, all of his charges were reduced.

Question about this. Question about this. Specifically, and then I want to hear what you have to say. It's like, okay, it seems obvious from this late, the latest tranche of files that just came out, right? You have all these people, incredibly wealthy, powerful people that are connected, right? And while some of them might not have done anything horrendous, like maybe Piratea didn't do anything horrendous, maybe he did, who knows?

Right. Yeah, fuck him for being mean to mind. But like, well, he maybe didn't do something horrendous. We don't know. There's no proof of that just yet. And just being named in the files is not implication of criminal activity. It could be, but not everyone that's named is a pedophile. It is for everybody, except Jayzy.

Yeah, except Jayzzi. Yeah, yeah. In the court of public opinion, you're immediately crucified. Yeah. And so they've given us names of very powerful people, right? Yet they're still protecting names. Yeah. What that lets me know is that these are the sacrificial lambs.

Ooh. Like, the Gates is a sacrificial lamb. Oh, so that's a power. That was at one point the richest man in the world. Like, I know there are people that have more money and they're not even on these lists. Because if you were actually the richest man in the world, you would. wouldn't fucking let people know who you are. But like, if Bill Gates is part of the sacrificial lamb crew,

who are the people that are still redacted? I mean, Thomas Mazze and Rokana. Shout out to them. Shout out to them for pushing this like crazy. They just saw more files and they were like, their still names redacted, 70%. But they said they're six, was it co-conspirators? There's six names of co-conspirators that were,

did they get access to their names? or they were... I mean, Thomas Massey, it seems like, got access to all their names. It is basically putting pressure on Congress to be like, either unredact these files or I'll just say who they are. Because there's no reason that they should be redacted. That guy got courage, bro. Both of them got courage.

And they're doing the right thing. But you know what they do. The reason it's courageous is you know what they do to people who look like they're going to cooperate because Epstein was cooperating. That's another important thing. Epstein was... What's he going to? That's what...

I think we can look it up, but that's what I was... talking to Saga, he was saying he was cooperating, and then they mark him. Oh, I thought we didn't even get that far. My, that's my understanding from, you know, my convo is Sager. Okay. Again, who knows? But that's even more of an indictment when you think about it. Like the second, the guy who's organizing it all goes, okay, I'll let you guys know what happens. He kills himself in the prison. That's why it's also weird. It's like, Glein speaks with Trump's former lawyer, and then all a sudden now she's in a nice, cushy place, and all of a sudden she's pleading the fifth.

And she's saying, I'll... That's weird. I'll laugh if you let me out. No, she says if he gives me... Immunity? Immunity? Or clemency? Is that the word? What's the difference between clemency and immunity? I thought clemency, you take away the charges.

Immunity is just like... You still have the charges, but anything I say can't be used against me. Got it. Okay, so she wants clemency to talk to clear Trump's name. And it's like, well, if his name... name was clear, why do you need clemency? But then it's before, clemency's after. That's what they're saying. Got it. Okay, but like to me, like

if she's shrewd enough to indict him that way? Like, is she smart enough to go, yeah, I'll clear Trump if you give me clemency. Well, if he's clear, why are you even putting that on the table? That's.

Right? Like, just she might be shrewd enough, but she doesn't have to be because her attorneys are meeting with her being like, hey, just say this. You know what I mean? Like, you have enough smart people working on her behest, like, hey, here's what you're going to say in order to put pressure on the right people. Okay, so now that we know that everybody from

Trump, Patel, Bondi, Bongino, like everybody that was involved in this, ah, this is just a hoax, we don't have anything. They're all on record saying versions of this, right? With the latest tranche, all of that is a lie. Yes. Has it been proven effectively

that is complete falsehood? What exactly is it falsehood? statements that this is just a Democrat hoax and this is, I don't even know what that means. I guess he's trying to frame me like this is a witch hunt against me. I did nothing wrong. They're trying to use this to slander my name. And they wouldn't use it when they were in power? Like to me, they also know, like both sides are incriminated in this. And that's why it wasn't brought up when Biden was in power.

Like they had the opportunity to go look into this stuff and they obviously didn't expose it. Now, him framing it that way, I don't think is... Like, they're just waiting for Trump to be back in office so that they can do it. It just seems so peculiar. Like, it's obviously you're protecting something. Maybe you're protecting your friends. Maybe you're protecting yourself, right? And I'm being delicate with language here, right?

But, like, bare minimum, if we have these six co-conspirators, that their names were redacted, right? And anytime Trump's name is in the files, almost it's redacted. Yeah. Right? I mean, we can talk about the one Don. T. Oh, yeah, this is interesting.

Like, there's just a random redaction on the word don't. And you can clearly tell that it's don't. Like, the sentence is like, I, blank, will go there. Or I don't want to go there, whatever. You can go on the same. And basically, don't is redacted. And people are deducing, like, oh, they just went through with some type of LLM to redact anything with Donald Trump. LLM is like an AI.

Anytime Don, Don, Donald, Don't. Just black it out. And you have so many files that it would be. probably impossible to go through every single one with a human being. I'm talking about 3 million emails or something like that. Right? So you kind of have to leave it up to AI a bit. Bro. It's low-key, like, have you seen the office?

There's a scene where Michael Scott writes a whole book, and he puts Dwight as like this dumb character, and then Command F changes all of it. But then they're reading it, and then there's one that's DeWitt, and he spelled Dwight wrong, and he didn't change that one. So then they realized that he actually put Dwight as the dumb character in the book, and then it became this whole drama. but literally it's the office in real life

like in the files that like they're trying to redact these things and accidentally redact on the wrong things that show their hand so Ricky Jervais was in all the whole time what you're trying to say is he implicated this exactly but like so what happens like cash Patel for example he said he looked at everything and there's nothing there

yeah what did he say on Rogan what kind of bullshit propaganda was he regurgent that there's no credible evidence that there's co-conspirators in a sex trafficking web to something like it's worded pretty peculiarly if you really look at it oh you think that he's delicate enough where he can defend it i think so where it's like technically there is no da da da da da da he's like if i saw anything illegal we would be investigated in it right now yeah exactly and it's like no the sort of sex trafficking operation was state sanctioned because it was done with impunity from the da da da da da da like some type of legal magic to try to make it seem like technically the statement is true but the spirit of the statement is obviously not because he of course had co-conspirators. Right. So he has been given orders to protect powerful people and devise language that will allow him to tell the truth while lying. I think it's probably the most likely thing.

There also might just be like a realization when you're in Patel's situation that you get in and you go, oh, if all of these files leak unredacted, all of the institutions that hold up the world order will change. So there was a part of me that thought, and I wonder if they were going to play this hand. But there was a part of me of thought that they were going to bring in Congress, or those of the people that were on the board that actually want to see all the files, etc. There's a part of me that thought they were going to bring them all in and go, here it is. You guys, ready for the world to burn? And they were going to walk out and go, guys, there's nothing here.

Now, I don't know if they will. They're also so pot committed. Their reputations are on the line. They're saying that these powerful people are involved and they're being protected by Trump and the administration, and Trump is also protecting himself in it. But is there a version where it goes so high up and it's so entrenched in all these different countries

that there's a version where government itself would implode if the information got out? Is there a version where even the people pointing it out saying that they're going to expose it, trying to protect it. Is it too big to fail? Is it the banks? Is it the housing crisis? Is it, are we going to bail out these bankers? Are we going to do it again? Are we going to bail out the people that put us in this fucking mess? If history tells us anything, probably. And that I think is the most frustrating part. And I think if you ask the American public in general,

would you rather uphold a system that exists for the purpose of child sex exploitation in order to do all the nefarious deeds that need to get done? Or do you want to just tear down the whole system because it shouldn't exist in the first place. Turn it down. Everyone would say tear it down. And that's why I think they're not giving that as an option. Because the American people, and I think people of the world, don't want to live in a system like this.

The fact that this exists at all, I don't think is an aberration from the system. People are like, oh, the system failed, da-da-da. I think this is exactly what the system was set up to function. Yeah, and we just got privy to it. Yeah, this is a feature of it. It's not a bug. This is built in to how it works is that you get at a level of wealth, power, and influence, and you're able to operate outside of laws and regulations.

any of that shit. Yep. So I think it's a built-in thing and that if you want the system to change, you fundamentally have to change the whole, you have to tear down the system, which... So here's the question.

Change the global order. When people reach a certain amount of wealth and status where they have access to this insider club, right, the club that none of us are invited to, are there people that have access to it? And, like, let's say, like a Bezos or whatever like that, can they operate? like Bezos is promoting Trump

he's there at the inauguration He's dumping the money in He's making the Washington Post change It's narrative a little bit To be a little bit more favorable Are these people Is it possible these people are working Within these systems of power

Because they go Well in order for me to get what I want I got to work with these bad actors And that's the only way that I can achieve the things that I want to achieve Is it possible that these people are doing it and know about the nefarious activities and are turning a blind eye to it?

Or is it possible that they are unaware of the nefarious activities, meaning like child sex trafficking, this type of blackmail leverage? And they are going, but I'm still going to operate above the law because that is the privilege of the powerful and wealthy. I think it's all the above.

And that every person probably has a different foray into it. But in my opinion, like just the way that the system is built, that once you get to a level of power and influence, any other identifying feature goes away. Like your nationality, your race, your sexual orientation, all that shit is gone because your entire motive is just personal growth, aggrandizement, and protection of your own capital interests.

So you just get to a level where like, none of that shit even matters. It's just all alignment. So who's aligned with making me more money? Oh, is it Trump? Okay, well, I'm going to give him whatever he needs and I'm going to stand behind him at the inauguration, and I'm going to cozy up.

Exactly. And like all this other shit is just sort of, of like a flowery kind of moral veneer that you put on stuff to make it look like you're doing the right thing on behalf of the people but none of that shit matters. What's interesting about the files is you don't really see any like athletes or entertainers we were talking about this. Have you noticed that? Yeah, like Jay-Z's name comes up, but it's like barely and it's some like unverified.

Yeah, that was some bullshit. Whatever. Yeah. But again, you don't really see all these like actors or you don't see all. all these people that we view as kind of famous and influential. Yeah. And my assumption on that is that the real elite don't see actors and athletes as actual elites. They see them as toys.

They don't actually respect them. They're like, you don't actually move markets. You don't actually create something. And meaning, like, you can't actually generate and create wealth. Like, you can shoot a basketball. to a hoop, but the second you're 40, like, you stop being able to do that and you're no longer of value. Whereas, like, if you're creating business and moving markets and changing geopolitics, now you're a player and you're someone that I have to fear. And I feel like at this level,

it's not even do I like you? It's do I have to fear you? And I think it's pretty obvious that Epsian had enough connections where you had to fear him. And there's this sycophantic. It's like, They wanted his connectivity. They wanted what he had, and it was obviously beneficial to them. Like there was that strategic alignment that you're saying. But I think that there's also something deeper, which is simply, do I have to worry about that individual? If I do, I'll be nice to him.

Because it's more beneficial to me to cozy up than to go to war with someone who can actually hurt me. An athlete can't do anything to me is what I think these billionaires are thinking. They're just toys. We just, you know, we have fun and we watch them do the thing. but they don't need to be part of this system. Yeah. It's kind of interesting. I think they're also easier to neutralize

where it's like, okay, if this person is outspoken with a big public audience that can sway public opinion, that could be dangerous. But I could also hire them for a birthday party and pay them an insane amount of money, become friends with them and we're like cool and then that might, you know, neuter any type of bad PR against me.

So this is the thing where it's like actors or entertainers never really had that kind of influence outside. of, you know, saying whatever virtue signaling thing made them look good when they accept an award type of stuff. With the invention of, like, new media and podcasts, all of a sudden, the influence of legacy media dips down, and now there are these new sources of influence,

which forced the elites to have to pay attention to what is going on here. In the same way, they forced to pay attention what's happening on Reddit, force to pay attention and happening on 4chan. They're like, oh, shit, narratives are being moved outside, of the traditional structures that we already kind of owned and operated with and we're friends with. Now we've got to worry about this other stuff because they can influence the world in that way.

Whereas they never had to worry about entertainers before because like Billy Elish isn't really moving the needle that much. Like she can say no one's whatever illegal on stolen land or whatever like that, but it's not actually changing structures in America. Yeah, it's kind of wild. Yeah. It's been really interesting to see. That's a piece so bad. Yeah, go, go, go. With Bill Clinton and Hillary.

Yeah. Like how they requested for the deposition to be public. Yeah. Like, that's interesting. Well, what do you think that means? I think they don't want to be, like, use as pawns and, like, not be able to control what comes out of that deposition. So they have a private deposition, and then the powers that be leak whatever they want for them. Yes, yeah.

Now, also, if the powers of the B are working against them, against the Clintons, if they're willing to just kind of discard them because they're like, you're the old world order, we don't need you anymore, you guys are about to die anyway, who gives a fuck, we're going to, you're the sacrificial lambs as well. Making it public, if the Clintons have anything on the other powers that be, it all of a sudden makes them go, if I go down, you're going down. So asking for it to be public might stop it from happening at all. Oh shit.

Right? If it's private, they could redact all the shit like them and redact them from the emails. It's going all in. You're gambling, you go all in. If I'm going down, you're going down with me. And then all of a sudden they go, well, we don't really need you to do this. Yeah, they'll fold their hands. I thought they're just going to be like, oh, well, this is public now.

So now you guys have to behave in terms of the question to ask me. No, you're also right, Al. But in the more nefarious version or like the more conspiratorial version, it's... I think, yeah, it protects them. So protects them in multiple ways. It's like one, you're not going to leak information that's going to be negative about me. Right? I can control what goes out.

And two, you know what I know. Yeah. Yeah. And if you want to get cute, I'll get cute. Because if everybody knows. This is going to be interesting. Right? I'm tuning in for that.

This is nuclear war without the nukes. Yeah. The war is your connect. The nuke is your connection to Epstein. Right? Like if you are connected to them, if you're homies with them and you've been lying about it, you're Newt. You know, like, I'm curious what happens with Lutnik.

This guy who, I think he said, he stopped having contact with Epstein in 2005 or something like that. And he told this story about him and his wife or like, you know, when I saw him, it was disgusting. I never want. And then I don't know when he goes to the island with his family, but I think he takes his family to the island. Which is odd.

But again, if you're lying about connectivity to that person, right? Yeah. Well, on some level I get, we're talking about Letnik. On some level I get lying, right? Because you know if you're connected to him at this point, it's over for you. Yep. So for self-preservation, you're creating as much distance as possible. I get it.

But if these files are coming out, you would think that they would try to get ahead of this. These things are amazing, by the way. Shout out of your own God. I was like a little like, you know, out of this. and I'm locked the fuck in. Anyway, so, God bless. But yeah, it's like, I think he said in 2005, that was the last time they connected,

and then they show that there was like many more connections even up until, when was it, 2013, or I don't even know when the latest is. But, yeah, I'm a little disappointed at America right now. Talk to me. Because I keep seeing overseas, anybody mentioned in the files is like they're being either stripped

of their titles, being fired or even people like I fuck it well we have Prince Andrew of course but then there's another guy right now they're Mendelsohn? Yeah and like they're upset at the prime minister just because Kier-starmer just because like he recommended some guy

who was connected to Epstein I'm like god damn so just recommending a guy who is close to Epstein is getting you clipped like they're standing on business over it. He's ambassador to America? Yes I believe so. Right. So it's like they're standing on business. I think they're standing on business when they start

clipping people with actual power and influence. The ambassador of America is like a cushy position where you do jack shit. Being Prince Andrew, he's like a meaningless enough. He's still in a man to moveball prince. They're still in the prime minister. They're being critical of the prime minister. They haven't asked him a step down.

They're trying to. But they haven't done it yet. What I'm saying is we're doing the same thing. We're holding the people about like we have people in Congress that are going, hey, the president is protecting a child pedophile ring. That's true. Right? And we want the names and they're redacting and the FBI is stopping this from happening and all of his

cronies are lying about it. So it's like we're pushing too. I don't know how far the UK or any other country involved is pushing to get people actually ousted. Okay. It just seems like they're doing more. If Keir Starrmer is forced to step down or they call some, I think they can do like special elections with the parliamentary system, right?

So if they can do that and they get them out of here, I'm like, Okay, that's a big move. Yeah. What you got, Miles? It's just so frustrating no one's actually going to be held to any standard. Like, there's no... That's what I feel. I'm trying to be too sentimental.

We can ask here, Siramor to step down. We can kick Lutton it out. We got Acosta in trouble. There are so many people within these files that are like actually bad people who did insanely bad stuff that we aren't going to be able to have. Like, there's going to be no jail time. And all the people that actually were ever in these files are dead. or Galeen is in a cushy jail.

Those are options. So I think Alex, you brought up this question earlier, right? And it's like, where are all the victims? Yeah. And how can we give the victims a platform to speak? And will the victims recognize these people? And that is another question I think is important, right? Which is like 20 years ago you hooked up with some like old fat white guy.

he didn't tell you his real name you don't know who he is like are they and like the owner of the giants I forgot a few of my bodies I wasn't traffic but no but that's the thing like this is like horrendous that you're trafficked

and you're like with all these random things it's like are you able to point out the owner of the giants allegedly like I don't know what the owner of the giants looks like could you tell who he was and do you know how he's different from these other people I wonder if there's a circumstance like that

where like I went through all this horrible stuff. They didn't tell me the names of the guys, obviously. They're doing illegal shit. So I don't know who they are. And they weren't necessarily famous at the time. We're talking about rich and powerful people that weren't known. It's not like it was actors doing it.

Then you'd be able to go, oh, that's the guy. I wonder if that's part of the reason why they've been hesitant to come out and go. I think there's a bunch of reasons. Of course, what you're saying, like, the nature of the operation is compartmentalized information. So, like, Epstein knows one,

thing, these guys coming in for a party, you know, another thing. And then the women that are actually being trafficked that potentially are a part of this blackmail operation only know what their specific duty is. Do this or else we're going to come out to your family, destroy your life, your reputation, etc. All the other like intimidation and coercion tactics that go along with such. And we're lying to about who these people are. Sure.

They're purposely confusing these girls. These girls might not know that it's recorded. They might not know that there's a payment situation. Again, we don't know the exact details of how it actually operates. Also, where are the recordings? That's another thing. Apparently you get 80 cameras set up in every room or something like that. We don't have a single recording.

That's the smoking gun. That's the shit they keep him from jail. At this, I don't want to see kiddie porn, but that's where the shit is at. At this point. At this point, there's not a single person on the planet that believes he killed himself, right? And some people still think. I mean, he might have been allowed to kill himself. He might have been allowed.

That was going to be my saying. As they come in, they say, it's going to be us or it's going to be you. tonight's your night you're gonna do it that would be like the most I don't think he did that's the most

gracious version of it because didn't the coroner say like the way his neck snapped there was no way you can do that no he said that like the wounds were somehow connected with a fixia through like someone's hands

so it's possible it could have been that but also through a roof yada yada I don't think he killed himself yeah name I don't either and as time has gone on I'm even less confident

that he's dead like it's possible like he might just been fucking scooped up. I don't know. Yeah. That's just like my general vibes. At this point, I'm like, I could believe anything.

I mean, it would be easier to kill him than try to sneak him out and keep him alive. It depends how much leverage he has. If there's a dead man switch, I don't know. So I had a... Ooh, dead man switch. I had a person say this to me. Take this with a grain of salt.

Because everybody, it's a person told you that talked to a guy person. So this is all like, whatever. The... I'll take it. Yeah. The rumor was... Because he had three

dead man switches. And the intelligence agencies found two of them. And upon finding the third, they killed him. Who knows if this is any of this is fucking true, whatever like that.

They found his horrocks. They fucking killed him. That's fire. I heard that joke. Oh, sorry. No, his? Oh, I thought you were doing a pun off of whore. No, I wasn't, but dude

He was chosen, dude Anyway We need dead man switches For what out? I don't know Did you just incriminate us? Did you just incriminate us out? Why would you need a dead man switch?

You have a dead man switch If people are trying to take you out And you want to compromise them with blackmail So who's trying to take you out And what kind of blackmail do you have that would ruin someone's reputation? I mean, I know I know you don't shower all the time That we tell.

You know how I knew he showered? He came into the Brilliant Idiot studio and it was like a bouquet of flowers walked in. Like I've never had him walk in a room and it smells so pleasant that I kept like sniffing around because I didn't understand what it was but you and you use a fragrance when you're shampoo

shampoo? No, that was just cologne. I got a cologne. What? I did. I should rough at home? No, it was the half-time show, brother. You cheered. Half-time show going to be five. Don't. Dude, bendito.

Dude, bendito. Joey, what happened to pheromones and all that fucking gay shit you used to say? Bro, it became a problem. Isn't it became a problem? Just more pheromones? No, bro, it's different pheromones. Yeah, but they work better. It's like steroids.

He said his wife, oh, loves his natural pheromones and all the shit. No, you're up to something, bro. No, but it is been, that problem is my natural pheromones for getting too much attention. Wouldn't they sell body odor if that's what women wanted? And they do. I actually just talked to a perfumer not too long ago about this exact thing. Oh, yeah? So the stinkiest people made perfume and cologne. The people known for smelling like shit.

Who? The French. Okay. We didn't know about those over there. The Old Spice. You called it Old Spice? No, we didn't know about them just yet. So the French were known for smelling like shit, and they're like, we got to do something about it. So they made fragrances.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, they tried to throw a durn on my name. Yeah. You French Canadian. Exactly. Come on. Dirty in, you're nice.

What you're just calling? 30-end, guys. Nice, yeah. Okay, so what's a deal? Do we ever find anything? I mean, oh, my God. I don't think so. But the videos, where are those?

Is that part of the other? Hey, Cash Patel said there's no videos, dude. There's not a single video. You didn't remember that? The guy was recording nothing. So the crazy parties that Elon wants to go to? Like, no, I don't want to see the videos. He said there's no.

Blackmail? He said something specific. Why don't you look it up? That's what I'm saying. The language they're using is just... It's particular. Yeah. I mean, he's an attorney.

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Visit medcan.com slash moments to get started. Really interesting is, I remember this summer, the first time they said something about kind of discarding the Epstein stuff. Do you remember we said something about it on the pod? We immediately were like, oh, I guess we're the idiots. I guess what the assholes, whatever like that. And then the White House responded. Yeah.

Do you guys remember that? So the White House gave a statement. They're like, oh, Andrew Schultz, I think that, you know, he should be happy. something blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, okay, I do remember that. And I was like, I should have known right there. Like, I should have known right there that they were, I mean, obviously I felt that they were covering it up. And that's why I was like, what the fuck is going on?

But to even respond to me, that means that they're in like immediate, oh shit mode. Right? Like, I knew it. And I pushed and I was like, what the fuck is going on here? But it was so peculiar because they campaigned so hard on exposing it. Like the Bongino guy. Yeah. And cash and Trump are.

campaigning on exposing it and immediately getting office. Is there part of you that looks at it and goes, like, where do you take that? Do you go, the only way we can squash this is if we get an office? No, because the Democrats had it and they weren't going to expose it because all their donors are in it as well. I think they underestimated how fervent the base was for truth on this specific issue. How could they do that? Usually they're pretty calculated and understanding.

That's my assessment. They go, look, we're going to get all these influence. that control the narrative around your right-wing discourse, and we're going to bring them in, we're going to give them these binders. They're going to have all these files. This is when Pam Bonnie invited all them to the White House. And that's going to be what we need to get this whole thing covered in. And I bet you that was the plan from the beginning.

I mean, how stupid. What an unbelievable miscalculation. And now you see Trump going like, hey, Bill Clinton's a nice guy. Why would he? Oh, are you saying that now? You haven't seen it? I like Bill Clinton. You know, he's always been nice to me.

They asked it the fuck. They asked him, they're like, what do you like about Bill Clinton? He's like, he's always been nice to me. What do you like? What do you like about him? Hey, what do you like about Bill Clinton? I like that he could make me look like a dang 13-year-olds. I'm not nice to him.

That's what I like. Allegedly. Oh, man. So what are the chances that he's, okay, here's something. Do you think that Trump's timeline with his friendship with Epstein mix is accurate? No. Meaning you think he maintained the friendship after? Yeah.

I think they just had like a small falling out because they were like fighting over that woman or girl. I don't know. Go on. And that's that's not the falling out. The falling out is even, you would hope that that was the falling out. Oh, it was like they wanted the same property or something like that and he stole the property from something like you. So the, I think the illusion with a lot of like the Trump like loyalists is like he saw that Epstein was trying to take girls from. Mar-Lago and he kicked him out. He said, no, no more. And that would be really great if there was

somebody with that type of moral compass in the office. Yeah. But the fact that he said that, I do think there's a little truth to it. It's like, I think he just took one of his girls out of the place and he was upset about that. Fair, but apparently they were beefing over a piece of real estate. And that was the final straw. It's like, you could take the teenagers out of here. But if you go after that fucking property out of war. It's hypocrisy. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. You hate it. It's just... Okay, so the timeline being, like, they stopped being friends after that real estate thing. Do you believe that?

Do you think that they maintain? No, I think they maintain. Because I think if, like, for Epsi to be such a big player, especially in Florida, because he's right there, the island's right there. So I'm like, you can't really just be like, fuck you. It's like, I'm not fucking with you. But, you know, we still share a lot of friends. We can be cordial. I just don't really mess with you.

How powerful are the people that he's protecting, that he's willing to... let's say for example hypothetically speaking the timeline that is is accurate meaning stops being friends with them after that I think that's when 2005 or something like that then he gets the pedophile charge in 2008

he gets convicted in 2008 2008 conviction never talks to him again after that right so how powerful are the people that Trump is protecting or does Epstein or the powers that be have incriminating evidence on him prior the 2005 evidence of him doing any you know i don't even want to mention horrible fucking

things um where he's willing to go down with the ship instead of just exposing it because if he did stop being friends with him and he was sure that they didn't have anything knowing trump wouldn't he just sell everyone else down the river that's what i'm saying it might be such that it implicates literally everyone. Like monarchs and heads of state. But when does Trump care about them? But if he's like, we have this oil deal and these people would pressure me saying,

hey, if you don't redact our, you know, king's name, we're going to not sell you this oil. And then oil price in your country are going to go up. Like, we can extort you through economic means if you don't get rid of our stuff. Or this like financial thing. How much leverage do these other countries have over us? I don't know.

It might be personal. It might be like, hey, We're going to give you this jet, or we're going to give you this, like, private thing in order to cover up this thing that someone in our country to... The problems these files are giving him right now. If he wasn't implicated,

yo, put this shit out. This shit is... Look how quick they folded on ice, right? They get pushed back on ice, and immediately they send home and in there. They're probably... Maybe they fire him. I don't know if they do. They take out the other guy, what was his name? Bovino.

Bovino, right? They go... We're going to prioritize. criminals. We're going to do. So it's like they do bend to the whim of the people and to the markets. Right. And that is that is somebody I was talking to Michael Moynihan who was saying this. And he was like, shout out, Mike Moyna. And he was like, that is to the argument about him being authoritarian. There's no question he has authoritarian tendencies. But authoritarians don't bend to the whims of the public. Like the leader of Iran is an authoritarian. You guys are rebelling. I'm going to shoot you all.

Yeah. Right. So they're bending to the market. they're bending to public perception. Knowing Trump, you don't think that he would just lay all these motherfuckers out in a silver platter unless... In my opinion, I think like 20 years ago by and we'll be like, how did we ever think that he wasn't? Yeah.

But I think he's obviously implicated in some way by proxy. But I also think it implicates legit everybody. So if Epstein is the guy to go to him, he's a fixer, he's a guy who can like massage your reputation to the public and I'm about to run for presidency, You don't think I'm hitting up this guy? Also, like, the guy who was going to do a PR rehabilitation for Epstein is a guy named Steve Bannon, who was Trump's campaign manager for the 2016 term, and his White House, what is the position when you essentially...

What was Bannon's position in Trump's White House in 2016? And then I think he eventually gets fired. Yeah. And then right after he gets fired, he goes and... Rehabs Epstein? Links with Epstein. White House chiefs. strategist. He was white of chief strategist.

Come on now. So, come on. The tentacles are in. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it seems pretty obvious from all the circumstantial evidence. It's kind of shocking that there's not like one singular like, yes, look,

you know? But what about is Bannon? Is Bannon getting the shit from his people? Like, yo, why are you trying to help this dude? I mean, he got to be out of here. I don't even know why people let that dude speak. I've always felt this way about Banda. He operates as such a weird kind of murky figure. I don't even know really

his story super well and like all the details in his 70s. Sagan? He's also rich in his 70s. Like he doesn't, there's no like company he's going to get fired from. And I don't know if he has like fans. I just think he's an operative when he's probably a spot. Oh, I thought he has like a huge fan base. I thought he has like he's like he's

MAGA. I think he's in a co-op to some MAGA people. He's like a mouthpiece for existing what doesn't he decide like what's MAGA or not like? I don't think he has that type of polar influence. I don't think he has that type of gravity. I think that he can like organize thoughts for these groups. And then be the most sensational about them, probably say things that the politicians can't say to really, like, rile up those bases.

But I don't think that he's actually, like, moving people or markets. Oh, okay. I thought he was, like, one of the main guys trying to kick Tucker out the shit when he was speaking. I think he's too unhealthy looking. Like, you have to. He looks at he's dying all the time. I don't stop him. Look at Trump.

So here's my question, right? You know how we, like, look back at, like, history and you look about, like, the Greeks, right? And, like, all the Greek aristocracy. the rumor is that they had these little boys that they would fuck or these little eunuchs that they would fuck and we're like oh this was commonplace at the time that like the rich and powerful would have sex of children and all of them had a little concubine

in a thousand years do they look back at history now and be like oh yeah the rich and powerful would just fuck work here has nothing changed in 2000 years yeah but I still thought that shit was disgusted and nasty of course we think it's disgusting nasty but we think it's disgusting nasty but we think it's like the past. We go, oh, look how weird the past was. Look how obscure and like, look how just,

I don't even want to call it primal, just like disgusting this behavior was, but it was commonplace 2,000 years ago, but we're dignified. This is ancient, we've civilized over time. Yeah, we're civilized beings. We would never do something like that. In a thousand years, they're going to look back at us,

like, with the fucking Greeks. We just switched to girls. They're like, oh, they stopped being gay around the year 2000, and then they just kept it with young girls. Did they? That's the other thing. It's wild. It's like, we don't hear about none of the gay shit. There's nothing. Hmm. Well, there was some email leak that talked about Epstein and Wexler, I think.

Having a relationship, like a sexual relationship. I heard, well, the rumor about Wexner is he's been sweet this whole time. And that's part of the reason why he was so tight with Epstein, pun intended, is because they were fucking... Epstein and Wexner. That's what I was reading on to it. So we're supposed to believe that, like, Epstein... The job line is this shit, bro. That shit does not come across my shit at all. What?

You've been so Puerto Rican since Bad Bunny happened. He's like, I don't see anything. I don't know. I don't have internet. My electricity is now. Don't make money in their electricity. They put it on the Super Bowl. That's sensitive top.

They put it up there. They did have the electric poles up there for that reason, right? Yes. Okay. And it was a metaphor for what? The bad infrastructure that they have in Puerto Rico. Because we're supposed to be connected to America, but we can't get funding.

For electricity. Yeah. Well, tell those guys Stop playing dominoes and start working on some electricians. You know? We need those guys. Those guys are retired. We're president. Engineers.

We need them still. They visit a foreign war in World War II. Yeah, man. So I think the web is deep. I don't even know if anyone knows, like, the story. Like, I think it's... You know something. You know a lot of his story.

Yeah, tell us. What are you thinking? Come on, boy, head. Come on, boy. Take your head off. No. He's doing that. He's not about four.

I mean, again, I don't know if anyone knows. I think anyone that's like, here's what happened, it is lying. Because I don't think there, I bet I'm willing to say this is probably so compartmentalized that people intimately involved might not even know. Like, does Jean-Luc Brunel know how deep Epstein's, like, intelligence ties go? Or is he just like, oh, yeah, he's just like a real. rich guy that likes young women. Like, does his connection with Alexander Acosta that gives him the sweetheart deal, does he know about his like foreign passport with Vienna?

Like, does anyone actually know the whole story? And does Epstein himself know how he's being utilized by these foreign actors? Like, he obviously knows the most, but now he's not there. Galane probably knows the second most, but she's in prison taking her Fifth Amendment and right. So to me, I'm like, does anyone actually know the entire thing? Yeah. I think it'll be years until all of it is unpacked.

They got to take down his team because it takes us 15. people to do a fucking podcast for him to have that type of ring with two people yeah like come on bro yeah like i mean and of course there's people that are connected to it that are just quiet like his assistants his co-conspirators his former girlfriends that are just not being affected by this like that to me is also crazy like they must have known or at least should be questioned about what they knew and they're going to just got off scot-free oh yeah the ex-girlfriend that's yeah korena shuliac Karina Shuliac. Miles got his eyes on her.

Yeah. I mean, she got a hundred mill. What was her thing? She just started, she's like, I'm going to reveal it all. Then it was just like a crypto scam. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, she was on Twitter talking about how she's going to reveal it all. But she's a dentist.

She's a Belarusian dentist that apparently was doing dental work on the island. You've seen the pictures of the dentist's office with the masks? With all the weird faces and shit. It's so weird. Some people say, oh, Epstein was just super particular about teeth and he wanted everyone to have perfect teeth. And so if someone needed dental work, he wanted to have a perfect teeth. so if someone needed dental work, he wanted to have a dentist on the island at all times, who he coincidentally was also dating, allegedly.

Now, is it also possible this was used to remove people's teeth so they couldn't be identified and then thrown in the ocean? Yo, how do you go to a dentist office with that? Weird, right? That's strange. This is just on the island. I just seems like a cover. Oh, this is actually on the island.

To my knowledge, this is on Little St. James. Oh, I thought this was like her practice. No, but it's weirder that is on an island. Like, imagine someone gives you an island. Like, you won Beast Games. Yeah, you got an island. Would you put a dentist on? Like, it's just so strange to me.

Okay, so I saw some pictures of the island. I saw this take on Twitter. I thought this was a great take. It goes, if anybody, if you believe that any of these billionaires are going to this island for the views of the amenities, you're out of your fucking mind. And I saw the pictures, and it does just look like an all-inclusive resort. It doesn't

look that fancy. It's like a Marriott somewhere. Yeah, but still, private island is fire. Well, well, well, well, well, there's a use for it. Why is it fire? Why is it fire? I think just being on a private island is got a fire. And why is that? Why is that? I ain't doing no fuck shit. I don't know where you get that. But you could do drugs. No, it's the same reason why being on the boat is fire.

Being on someone's yacht is fire. Because there's no rules. Okay. That's what people get. When you're in the middle of the fucking sea, there's no cop that's pulling up and telling you what to do. So if you're going to the island, you don't need all the fancy amenities because the amenity is there's no rules and we can do anything here. You want to go skinny dips, sure. You want to do drugs out in the open? Do it.

It's like when we're kids, you build a fucking treehouse or something like that. It's this idea that you have a space and there's nobody there watching and you can do whatever the fuck you want. That's what fucking old, you know, this is what these billionaires are doing. So the question is, if you're not going to make it fancy in this like ultra luxurious experience, it's not the Amman, right? If it's just a place that has beds and sleep and some food, what is there that's bringing the people there?

What's the valley prop? What was that big square thing? That's the color of the Israeli flag. Oh, the mosque? Yeah, what is that? It's an empty temple with nothing in it. That was the wildest wrinkle where they found like there was like a piece of the cloth that covers. The Kaaba.

The Kaba. Mecca. Like some, they gifted it to them or something. And the story was that he was using just like a, like a on his foot rug or whatever. Prayer rug? No, that he was using as like, this is a story. I don't know if it's true, but it's extremely sacrilegious if it is, that he was using it on like a, like a floor mat.

Oh, my God. That's what the story was I saw on Twitter. Someone fact-checked me on that. Muslims come for. Yeah. No, but what was that structure? Like what happened in there? No one knows.

It was a building, an outhouse, a shed. But it's empty inside? Like, is it furnished? Like, what is it just? They did it is a line. That's where they were doing the dance. The whole thing was a dental operation now. It wasn't even finished inside.

It was like partial walls and shit on inside. Oh, they weren't done. Okay. Or that's why we see now. They busted it down. They built it to make it look crazy. I don't know. I also think there's an element of like the satanic ritual abuse stuff that I've heard

people say this. I don't know if it's true or not. I don't even know necessarily how prevalent satanic ritual abuse is. Like this kind of got like kicked off with like the satanic panic through the 80s. and then kind of got like written off like oh this is just like you know mentally deluded people or schizophrenic people with these crazy delusions that are not true

and then young guy bust into that spot and Cali which guy? The one we had in the podcast with the weird voice you were just quoting him RFK no fat guy we had him on a pot crazy dude conspiracy theory Alex Jones yeah yeah yeah and he busts into

that place and he was in the same first name as you and you couldn't Yeah, he snuck in a Bohemian Grove. Yeah. And saw this ritual. It's difficult to say necessarily of what was happening in Bohemian Grove was like ritual abuse.

It's possible, but I don't think he necessarily documented like children being sacrificed or sexual abuse. With that said, part of me goes, is this done to poison the well to make these claims seem so absurd? Is what done? Like, satanic ritual abuse. Like, it's possible that these people are interfacing

with like a spiritual satanic force that controls the whole world i'll leave room for that i'm less moved by that theory i'm more moved by the idea that these people do these things in a ritualistic way that seems absurd and theatrics so that if someone ever snitches on them they go what are you telling me there was like all these famous people and there was a fire and everyone was dressed up like this is obviously absurd but it allows them to get away with it with some impunity because the story is so crazy now that not to mention the victims of any type of sexual abuse, typically have trauma from it. And if they stay in the system long enough, they oftentimes will develop, like, you know, emotional attachment issues, you know, chemical

dependence on drugs or alcohol. And that also affects their faculties later on so that their testimony of what happened to them is even more stripped from reality. So you basically have this pool of the most vulnerable people in our society that can be abused with impunity because 20 years down the line when they go to testify. Nobody will believe them. No one believes them. There's stories crazy. There's holes and there's gaps in the stories because potentially they were on drugs when it happened or they had a substance abuse issue after it happened, after they survived this trauma. And then on top of that you have a society that's like, ah, these bids would be lying. So all that.

And then on top of that, it's like, oh, they signed a deal that they would basically not testify against Epstein in 2008 because that's a part of his settlement with them. And that they can't say anything and implicate anyone else. So you have all of these things. You have the legal system going against you. You have the court of public opinion going against you. And you have, I mean, straight up, like, biology and physiology and your own psychology being done against you through this trauma. So I'm like, yeah, why are women not coming out about it now? Like, look at Virginia Gouffray.

She got killed. She is dead. Suicide. She might have. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, did I say she got killed? I said, yeah, she's dead. I mean, it is wild.

Like, the most famous one who comes out just ends up killing. Yeah. Sean, what was his name? Brunel. Jean-Luc Brunel. Yeah. Also kill himself. Suicide. And what was Brunel again? He was the Wrangler?

He was connected and had like a fashion house in Paris and then was close allies with... So that's the other thing. It's like if you're a congressman, you've got to be worried about them taking you out. And at first they're not going to take you out directly, right? They're going to try to malign you and destroy your reputation and, you know, get the internet to come for you and just try to do whatever they can to strip you of your power. If you can get past that, then you got to be worried about them just straight up killing you. And that's if you're a sitting member of Congress. If you're a girl that has been trafficked for her, not only adult, but like juvenile life, they already think of you as disposable. You can't even imagine what they would do.

And you would hope that your lawyer would have some sort of protection. But there's also a version where it's just like, what law agency is taking this claim up, knowing full well the people they're going up against? You don't think that they're getting some nods and some phone calls? Like, hey, it would be in your best interest not to take. take up this case. Yeah, which is why I think like the material conditions that underline all this, like wealth and equality and all that shit, is something that should be acknowledged because Epsi was able to do so much of what he did. He was able to travel on a private jet to a private

island to commit crimes because he was rich. He was able to meet and connect with all these really powerful people because he was rich in just aggrandize more power. When these victims were doing these things and taking these modeling contracts and in many ways were being coerced because of their They had nothing. Their financial conditions, they weren't able to get lawyers because they were poor. The other people that were surrounding. They were estranged from their families. They were intimidated, coerced.

They couldn't get legal support. And then all the other people surrounding this that all are hush about it are also hushed because the material conditions put them in a position where they need the money. And they're not going to speak out against generational wealth for their family. Also, they're in a very peculiar situation where it's like, if they do speak out about it, they indict themselves. Yeah. Right?

So it's going to take somebody who's willing for the whole world to be like, you aided and abetted pedophiles in the destruction of children. That being said, by doing it, you maybe get to expose it. So it's not, you're not going to be ever looked at as a hero, but it is a brave act that doesn't take away from the horrible destruction you did, but it does, before you die, you get to at least do one good thing. But then you go, okay, well, those people now have families. They have kids in school.

Like, what happens? So all these people that ate and embedded that might not even. be doing that. They might have even been the business anymore. They might be selling insurance somewhere. They might be have a fucking coffee shop somewhere. But they know what they were part of. Are they going to speak up? Are they going to stay silent until their name is revealed?

Think about it. There's a woman going through that right now. She was a former New York city-based DA. And she's the one who argued for Epstein to have a lower level of sexual, whatever that's called. Charge. Yeah.

So that he would either be like a sex predator for a year on the list or for like his whole life. Right. Levels within it. She argued it should be lower, yada, yada, and then she's backed out of the DA and got herself out of it because her name's all over the list. And it's like, was she, it was a compartmentalized? Was she aware?

Was someone talking to her in her ear? Like, it's a tough thing to navigate. Was she a bad person? Yeah. Doing bad stuff. I don't know what person argues for you to have a lesser charge for trafficking children. The argument is she only had. the data in front of her from the Florida thing.

And in the Florida thing, it's a super light charge. So she's arguing, yeah, it should be fine. But apparently if you look into her past and her history, she's attached to Weinstein and all these other things. And it's, yeah, yeah. There's people in the files who are actively changing their lives right now. Yeah. Some guy bought Epstein Island.

Yeah. If you guys go. Would I go to the island? No. I mean, now it's not. Not Epstein. Oh, wait. Now she's just an island.

Well, who buys it, though? That's what I'm saying? Who buys it? What if it's a cool guy? A cool billionaire. Wait, wait. Are you going to go to party? I'm just saying.

Would you just go in general? Some guy bought it. I mean, for what purpose am I going? What is the conditions? Hey, this is like, this is the new saint parts. Do I get to investigate? Can I get to go around and check out the bunkers and report all of it on the YouTube? No, I'm pretty sure everything's knocked down.

It's just new. It's just like. Oh, no. they just read it. If I get to go do like a cool YouTube documentary explored around, like that guy, I don't remember his name on YouTube, did this where he stuck on the island of 2023 and that's where we get a lot of the images.

Hell yeah, that's awesome. They're like a part of an uncovering. You're part of the... Yeah. Getting the information out there as far. Yeah. But just to go part in an island, bro, at this point I'm good. I got a kid.

What did the island do to you? Dude, you are poor reading, bro. Islands are beautiful. Nothing wrong with an island, you know? I'm saying I'm saying, but we're going to punish the island Yeah, the island was there before

Epstein is going to be there after That's exactly. You got to pull a Billy Eilis. You know what I mean? Come on. Come on, that's a good point. Are you never going to go to Germany? You know, you never going to go to Poland?

No, you got to give us some time. You got to give it some time. You got to sit on the island for a little bit. You can't build anything there. What do you even put there? What do you even put there? What could you put there to? Yeah.

And we got to at least wait 18 years. Jesus Christ. We're 20. I mean, we don't need to put that specific going to a number. I'm just saying. You're silly or not. Our topic is silly. You're finding it.

I don't try. I actually respect this effort immensely. True. I don't. Yeah. But, I mean, no, I'm probably going to go. Probably going to skip on that one. Has there been anybody who went to the island that described their experience?

Yeah. Who? I think Brett Weinstein, I don't know if he went specifically on him, but he met with Epstein. It has been like very forthcoming with the entire, the nature of their conversation. And what did he say? Basically, like, Epstein just had an interest in, I mean, this is again paraphrased. He had a hilarious thing. He was talking about the way that they were speaking about non-Jews in the Epstein files. Did you see his tweet about that?

And he's like, I've known Jews my entire life grew up with Jews. We have never spoken about non-Jews about like this once ever. This has never happened. This is something completely unique to Epstein and his cranes. This has never happened. And it's just like, dude, just watch Jackie Mason's comedy. It's not that crazy. This is what people did back in the 70s.

You're just like, this is our group and other groups are different. And we'll make fun of them because of it. I grew up in a Jewish family with many Jewish friends. There was Jewish pride, but I never once heard anything like the derisive exclusionary talk in the Epstein files. It is grotesque, anti-American, anti-Western. There's no place in our society, especially near power. That is true. But to say you never heard that.

Yeah. It sounds like a goy to me, dude. Yeah. He's just spitting goy slop. He's just spitting goy slop. Because now everyone uses goi. You know what I mean? But we've kind of reclaimed our word.

We've taken it back. Dude, we finally found a word for white people that were offended by. Really? Black people have been trying to do this for years. Oh, I got to tell all my people. Just start calling white dude. goy. That shit hit. That's all in work for real.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, the problem is you're also a goi. No, no. What do you mean? I just, I don't want to be down. You are a goi. You're a big old fucking goi. You're an island goi. You're an island guy. That's what you want. You're a guy, dude. You're a little goyem.

You're a little goy cattle. Did you like the Super Bowl watching a little goy slop? Just eating it up? No. Chris Tugger, I think he spoke about it. He spoke about his time on the alley. Could we find that? Could we find that? Because I think...

Also, as an addendum. He went on the plane off you. It was Eric one son that talked about it. Not Brett. Eric. Brett may have talked about it also, but the guy I'm talking about specific was Eric. I blame Epstein for the reason why we never got another rush hour. But aren't we getting one now?

Bro. Did you see Jackie Chan talking about rush hour? This is so funny. Jackie Chan is doing an interview talking about rush hour. And he's like, I went in and I did this movie. I'm not going to do the accent. He's like, I went and I did this movie, and it was the worst movie I'd ever read. I thought it was a terrible script. And then my agent calls me and goes, the movie's number one.

They want to do a sequel immediately. I was like, what? And then we did the sequel. He's like, I just don't understand American humor. American jokes make no sense to me. Never touch a black guy's radio. Why? He's white.

He did the whole movie. Three of them didn't understand any of the jokes. Jackie Jen has no idea why it's funny. Maybe that's why it's funny. Yeah, because he was acting dramatically. He wasn't acting, bro. It's unbelievable. Oh, man.

All right, let's see what Chris Tucker got to say. You know, we flew Bill Clinton and a lot of different, well, that was a humanitarian trip to Africa. And I met him on that trip because it was his plane. I didn't know who plane we was getting on. But it was a whole bunch of dignitary people who was with a delegation. And, yeah, I met him. And, you know, you don't know people, what they do, or they pray. private lives, so, yeah.

But tell me that, Chris. He was on that private plane. And you could tell that it was a private plane because they called it, what did it? Lolita Express. Oh, yeah, it was a private plane. Yes. Oh, yes. Well, wait a minute.

You didn't never go to that island, did you? No, no, no, no. Oh, I thought he said. My bad. I thought he was talking about it. But I thought he was on the plane multiple times. With all due respect, who was he talking too. Is he talking like the bad guy

and true detective? No. But he's on Instagram live getting interviewed about the Epstein shit. So you went to the plane. And Chris is like, yeah, man, I went,

I jumped out on a plane. It's like, this is news. I'm just so fun. Why would you do black accent, but you won't do Asian accent? Come on, bro. I'm trying to get an SNL.

I don't want to do Asian accent. You can do black accent. That's fine. All the black people are Americans, all right? Hazes. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Digging.

You, yeah, keep digging, motherfucker. Yo, shut up, boy. Yeah, you got to stretch and gorehe. He just said to all ages. They're fake citizens. Oh, the Jake Paul. No, I don't know why.

Why is that? I guess I wasn't, because, yeah, no. I didn't really have a like to stand on here. For it. Hold, let me die. I'll have to go ahead. I might have been doing it. Puerto Rican accent. Who's the realtor said?

So you went on to play. Who is that guy? So we're going to have someone break all this shit down for us next week. Yeah. In a much better way. Exactly. We're going to get the guy that interviewed Chris Tucker. He's going to get to the bottom of it.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I do want to know the real shit, though. Like, I think, well, you know a lot, but I still think it's like surface level shit. I want to know the real. What is the real? Who's reading all these fucking documents? That's what I'm going to speak to that first.

What's the real? Who actually read the documents? That's what I want to know. Yeah. It'll also be awesome to see if Thomas Massey starts naming shit in the next week. Yeah. What does he have to lose outside of getting murdered? Like, what does he have to lose by doing it?

Outside of that, not much. I mean, his family, but like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, his life, his reputation, they'll find a hard drive on his computer. It's like, oh, look what we found out of your place. Isn't that great? crazy. You were projecting this whole time. People, this is a dirty game, right? Wouldn't they have already

done that? That's what I'm saying. That means he's clean. He knows he's dirty game. I don't know. I don't know. You go up against the institutional powers that be, they have many ways to take it down. I don't know. But then he would have stopped already. It seems like he wants to do it. Him and bro. I think if they did it, man. Just start naming shit on the Congress floor you're saying? Yeah, like, are you

you're a hero? Now, granted, you have to make. sure that these things are investigated. But who do you trust to investigate? That's also the thing. It's like, who do you trust to investigate? How can you make sure that they're actually investigated? I'm sure that's what the FBI is saying.

It's like, oh, the reason why we're redacting is because there's a current investigation into this? It's like, oh, is there a current one? Yeah. Have you been investigating this for the last fucking 20 years? Is that what's happening? Oh, yeah. Then they like open up another investigation just so they can like not release certain shit. I would be surprised.

I remember like right before they were going to release it. Yeah. They like opened up another investigation. Yeah. And then there's all these people that like, I basically was saying this thing on camp where I was like, yeah, I just like, what do I do? Like, what do you do with this information? Like, how do you react? Like, knowing that the world is run by the most evil people ever, like, how do you deal with that?

And I was like, you focus on what you can control. And then people were mad. They were like, no, man, you can't do that. You got to speak out. You got a revolt. What does that mean? Like, the people I talk to don't want to, like, destroy everything. and don't want to, like, protest.

People are expecting that. People don't want that to happen. I was going to make a bad joke. I was like, I mean, it's the same way you still go to the Catholic Church ever since. So they got rid of those people. They moved them to a different parish. I'm sure.

They just all stop being pedophiles over there. Exactly. Well, the Catholic Church is a good example. It's like, let's say that they didn't, let's say they didn't just move them to a different parish. Is they call it parish? Yeah, yeah. Let's say they locked them all up.

The Catholic Church still exists. The institution still exists. And I think that there is this like, you even heard Massey and Roe talking about it, like, you know, if these names come out, we could look at the implosion of foreign governments and those other stuff. I don't know if that happens. Like I think a lot of these people in positions of power, we replace them regularly. So we can replace these people. And the whole idea of democracy that we're actually going to have one is that people are replaced. We don't want Pelosi in there for fucking 60 years, right?

We don't want these lifers. We want people to be in and out, ideally. And the new people are coming in and reflecting the people. problems of the people currently, not people that are talking about managing or maintaining the status quo because it just benefits them and their cronies. So the idea of like the system imploding, I don't think the system implodes. I think that you get a new version of people who are running the system and they will ultimately, if they're not already, ready, be corrupted, of course, and then those people need to be shed it again. And that's just how it goes. I mean, because when we don't

shed the people in charge, you look at the countries that have these like dictators for long periods of time, It just gets more and more corrupt. Like absolute power corrupts. What is it? A power corrupts absolutely power corrupts absolutely or whatever the animal farm quote is. But so yeah, this idea like everything falls apart. I don't know if it does.

Oh, the CEO of some bank needs to step down. Okay. What does the bank also close? No. Right? People are going to still pay their fucking mortgage. The banks can still lend out money that they just print. And the system continues.

Yeah. At the end of the day, at least there'll be justice. That's what I hope for. But this idea, like, what if we let these names out? The whole, there'll be a global financial collapse and governments will fall apart. It's like, no, they won't actually. Yeah. Like every four, eight years, we have a new dude that just goes in and takes charge of the most powerful country in the world.

It's kind of like an insane concept, right? You don't think we can manage locking up a couple of these fucking pedophiles? Yeah. It's lock them up, man. It seems like a stoking fear to pacify the public. Yeah, yeah. It's like the too big to fail thing. It's like, we're just going to bail them out because the alternative, we're,

would be disastrous. Disaster for everybody. He's like, will it? Well, let's try it out. Let's try it out and see. Yeah. I'd imagine we'd be pretty resilient

knowing that powerful people were given justice for their heinous crimes. I'd imagine that we'd be okay with it. I don't think that we'd be, I don't think we'd be riding the streets if we know that there was justice that was given to them.

Yeah. I think we might be riding the streets if we know that they were avoiding justice. Another cover-up. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if Epstein's dead or not, but I know he's in hell. And he's proven to,

me that we're all in hell with them. You know what I mean? Just looking around like, all right, what do we do? This whole thing is run by the worst people ever. All right. It makes me sad. But the Super Bowl was good. You know, at least we got that. The circus was good.

That scared me a little bit. No, Super Bowl's fine. All right, guys. We're going to go on a Patreon. Talk about Tony A. and Uncle Murder Pressing J'Rule. Yeah. Okay? Before Mark slits his wrist.

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