Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz on Guy Accidentally Saying N-Word, Ronaldo vs Beyonce, & Try Guys Ned Fulmer CHEATING

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

Happy Thursday flagrant family, LETS GET IT! INDULGE! 00:00 - Salesman calls Neighbor the n-word?! 08:54 - Weekend Sports Predictions 20:53 - Post Malone Breaks ribs :( 24:50 - Body Challenge - Schulz Vs Dov 28:34 - Most influential: Beyonce v Cristiano Ronaldo 39:35 - Taylor Swift rejecting the Super Bowl 43:41 - Rihanna is that guy 47:18 - The Try Guys Ned Fulmer and Boston Celtics Ime Udoka

Have you seen this video yet? No, I haven't seen this video yet. Okay, let's go. So, I mean, the title of the video, no jumper poster, says, Salesman accidentally calls his black neighbor the N-word. I mean, it's a good title. Gotta click it. First time I see this, I go, how do you accidentally call a black guy the N-word?

I don't understand. This is what happens. He just rings the ring doorbell. Here we go. Hello? Yes, sir. Hey, how you doing? Hey, sorry to bother you.

I'm Fernando. I work at Pick Energy. We're a few doors down. We're in 1845. Okay. So we do solar around here. We're just coming around talking to... Sorry, dude.

Neighbors. I apologize. Oh, shit. Oh, my God, dude. No, man. That wasn't even... Oh, my God, dude. What was the name of his dog? Oh, my God, dude.

And then he just stands at the bottom of the stairs and just looks longingly at the door. Rubbing his neck like, what the fuck? Oh, no. He's like, my life is over right now. I mean, that is tough. Oh, no. Oh, no. How is this not more viral?

I mean, it's making us round. It's making us round. Bro, it is crazy. I got sent this like a good 40 times. I thought you were going to say, I called this a good 40 times. God damn. That's crazy. Has that ever happened to you, Al?

A Freudian slip? No. Yeah, a Mormon missionary? No. We're just here trying to spread the gospel. It hasn't, thankfully. I'm... Are you good, bro?

What happened? You can tell how embarrassed... Like, he was so embarrassed by it. Yeah. Oh, I... Yo, yo, yo. This guy just met him. Yeah, that's crazy.

Trying to sell him something, and it turns out he lives three doors down. Yo, you got to see him every day. Oh, man. That's rough. That's fucking rough. So the question is, like, does he say it? You got to move, bro.

You got to move, dog. You got to move, bro. You got to move. Because you told him what you—I live at 1843. Because this guy's bringing down the property value. Oh, sorry. He said what door he's in. Yeah.

Son, son. He said the address and his first name. Hey, I'm Fernando. I live in 1843. Like, literally lives in 1843. God damn, bro. And then I'm curious, the neighbor's reaction. I'm so disappointed.

The neighbor just went back inside. Nah, the neighbor said, nah, it's dead. Yeah, but I mean, like, that's it. I think he handled that shit right. You stuff him. Or at least get upset. Like, he didn't really get upset. He was clearly upset.

I think the grown-up way is, we're not talking. There's no conversation. I'm not listening to your apology. I'm out. I think that's the best way to handle it. Because the guy didn't do it on purpose. You didn't knock on the door like, hey, I'm selling solar panels to, you know what I mean? That's the mature way to handle it, but nah. What are you really going to do in that situation?

Also, he can't even get no solar panel. Think about that. What do you mean? You don't think he wants solar panels? Son, you don't think he's going to get free solar panels after this shit? He better get some free solar panels. Nah, that's what he should have said out there. How expensive are they now?

Yeah. How much are they now, dude? No, that's crazy. Because what if he'd been waiting to be asked? Like, he goes, yo, Fernando down in 1843 got these solar panels, brother. They're going to drop the energy bill down to zero dollars. And he knocks on the door and just N-words him right to his fucking face. The craziest part is he touched him afterward. He's like,

I'm sorry, buddy. Real slip. You don't touch me. He's like, yo, are you fucking crazy, dog? The dude's reaction is crazy. Like, the fact that he ain't do nothing. What would you have done? Like, I definitely would have got loud. Maybe, maybe a shove. Maybe a shove. You can't, well, he's not coming at you with

Come on, bro. He's not coming at you with... Come on, bro. He's not coming at you with anger or violence. That's the thing. That's why it's like, what if someone politely calls you the M word? What? Excuse me, mister. Like, if somebody says, pardon me, mister. Yeah, I'm getting loud. Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Like, you get... And then he was like, I said, pardon me, mister. And then back. You'd hit him immediately. If he doubles up. So you get loud and he apologizes, then what? Then'm back. You'd hit him immediately. Yeah, if he doubles up. So you get loud and he apologizes, then what? Then I apologize. What if he had a Borat accent?

Yo, get the fuck out of here. Okay, but... And then it's over. That's your big beef with this guy? He ain't do nothing. He just ate that shit. He did the same thing without saying anything. Bro, you know what the crazy thing about fighting over someone calling you the N-word?

Is that... If you lose that fight, bro, everybody calling you the N-word. Like, there's even more pressure on the black dude. Not only do you got to fuck the dude up that calls you the N-word. No, sorry. Not only do you have to do something, you got to fuck, you can't lose. Yeah, you got to win. Yeah, but he's not going to fight back.

Because he's in the room. He knows he's in the room. That's how you know he's not really racist. Yeah, but he's not going to fight back. Because... Because he's in the wrong. He knows he's in the wrong. That's how you know he's not really racist. Yeah, but this is how you get a free shot. He could have got a free shot on dude. Dude can't hit him back. You get a free knockout. World star, let's go.

Slap. It's a slap. Open hands. Oh, yeah, backhand is so much more disrespectful. Bro, you seen that video in like Hawaii or something where my man, you ever see, yo, he like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the Will Smith shit, too. The guy tried to kiss him, that reporter or whatever, like tried to punk him by kissing him.

And he just like, just like one time. Back of the hand is awesome. Yeah, back hand is cool. But this dude knocked the guy out with it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, that's insane. The other thing I'm curious about with this is like he chooses to post this on the internet. What's your take on it?

What do you mean? The black neighbor posted it on the internet. It's not a ring camera. Yeah. So I'm assuming he posted it and goes, you guys won't believe what happened. Yeah, this is your payback. You gotta get your clout up. You call me the N-word to my face, I didn't beat you up, you're gonna get publicly humiliated.

Bare minimum. Now, to Alex's point, would you rather get beaten up if you're Fernando? Mm-hmm. I would. Oh. Private humiliation. Oh. Private humiliation.

That's private. Private humiliation, you get slapped up. Alex is actually being more humane, just beating the guy. Alex wouldn't do this. See? Son, you're right, I'm wrong. Of course, if I knock him out, I'm supposed to do this. What the fuck are you talking about?

What? Charging pay-per-view. No, you come the next day, yo, Fernando, I'm going to need that ring footage. Fernando, do the right thing. No, that's a great point. It'll be like eight and four now.

Let's go. Private humiliation over public every single day. Oh, yeah. And also, if you fuck him up, you can't even really be that angry at him no more. Yeah. Like also, if you fuck him up, you can't even really be that angry at him no more. Yeah.

It's even. You have a neighbor again. Yeah. It ain't even awkward. Just come get beat up, and then we'll have Sunday dinner or something like that. Yo, I'm really sorry about that. Yo, me too, man. I was a little crazy, but you did a thing.

You can be friends. Probably could. Yeah. That's the best way to make friends with a black neighbor if you really think about it yo if you really think about it the best way the best way to make friends with your black neighbor the casual brush off is the fun it's the fucking craziest part he actually has like nothing hey oh my bad buddy it's like it's like you called him the wrong name yeah he was like, oh, Steven.

I thought it was fucking mind-boggling. Like, you don't realize this is, oh, my God. You got mortified, walk off, holy shit, I'm so sorry. Go to the end, though. Hope you don't get fucked up. Bro, I can't fast forward. Why not, son? Because it's Instagram.

There's literally a ticker at the bottom. That's a screen recording. Oh. We know. You guys are both 40. You guys are 40. You guys are both 40 equally. This is insane. Wait, are we dumb

to think that that's... Yeah, we're not dumb to think that. No, you guys are super smart. Okay, here it is. It's better with the buildup. Hey, how you doing? Hey, sorry to bother you. I'm Fernando.

I work at Peak Energy. We're a few doors down. We're in 1845. Okay. So we do solar around here. We're just coming around talking to niggers. Sorry dude. Neighbors.

I apologize man. He's laughing. No man, that wasn't even a sound. Sorry dude. I'm sorry dude. Oh, fuck. I know. Son. Son. Sorry dude. I'm sorry, dude. I know.

Son. Sorry, dude. It's crazy. Alex, you got to give him one stiff bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to give him at least one stiff bitch. Remember Danny Brown? Oh, yeah.

You got to give him at least one stiff bitch. So that's what I'm saying. He had to do something, bro. Something. I'm Oh, yeah. You got to do at least one stiff bitch. So that's what I'm saying. He had to do something, bro. Something. I'm sorry, dude. It was so like, that is the weirdest part of his behind.

Yo, let's look at the comments. And it's like a nervous chuckle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Van Lathan, what the fuck? Is there any funny comments?

I have a feeling there's not. Bro went off script a bit. That's good. Bro. off script a bit. Bro. Now, can we talk about something that is completely unrelated to race? Yes. Please. Okay. Please. Football. Obviously, there's no racism

in that. Football is racial unity. It is racial unity. Race is coming together to play sports. Like, remember the Titans. You seem to remember the Titans. I remember. I'll never forget the Titans. Left side. Strong to play sports. Like, remember the Titans. You seem to remember the Titans. I remember them. I'll never forget the Titans. Left side. Strong side. Right side.

Not in the movie. Okay. Well, my point is, can I brag? Yeah. If anybody listened to me and bet what I told them to bet last week, they'd have won money. Is that right? I said, bet on the Ravens. To cover the spread, they won. And then this week, where are we going?

What's our cautious pick this week if we're trying to make money? What's our cautious pick this week? It's hard to bet, but my safest bets are the Seahawks are not going to cover the spread against the Lions. They're like, they're favored to, I guess the Lions are favored to win by four and a half. I think they're going to win by more than four and a half. I don't think the Seahawks are good at all. And I think the Lions are, they're one and two, but I don't think they're that bad.

I think they're better than their record. The other one is the Rams and the Niners. Because I think the Niners are, they should be good, but they had a quarterback who I thought was going to be good. Maybe Trey Lance, he got hurt. Jimmy Garoppolo, we know he's in. But their left tackle, who's like maybe the best in the league, he's hurt. So for a quarterback who's right-handed every time you go back to pass,

your left side is the one that you got to worry about because you can't see it. And that's, we ever heard a quarterback is hearing footsteps? If that left side is giving up a lot of pressure, you start, your whole fucking mental clock is off. Because you're worried, yo, I'm going to get fucked up on the side I can't see. I could break ribs. I could do whatever. So I think, and the Rams have a pretty good D-line,

I think that's going to fuck with Jimmy Garoppolo. I made a movie about that. The Rams are... The blind side? The blind side, yes. That's the whole thing. Wait, really? Yeah.

That was the idea. The highest paid person on the line. Yeah, usually the third highest paid position on the team-ish is the left tackle. And that's the left side strong side. I don't know if that's Remember the Titans, to be honest. God damn it. No, left side strong side is Remember left tackle. And that's Left Side, Strong Side. I don't know if that's Remember the Titans, to be honest. God damn it. No, Left Side, Strong Side

is Remember the Titans. No, but that's on, they're both on defense. The Blind Side is a movie about Michael Orr, who was an offensive player and in... No, but he was adopted

by a family that didn't see color. And that's why it's called The Blind Side. This is about the white people being heroes. Yeah, obviously. And not about

an amazing journey that a young black kid overcame unbelievable obstacles to become an all-star. No, it's called The Blonde Time. This is about the white people being heroes. Yeah, obviously. And not about an amazing journey that a young black kid overcame unbelievable obstacles to become an all-star. No, no, it's about a lady who happened to house a kid and then he went to the college she wanted to go to. Yeah. Coincidentally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's out of love.

That's why they're the heroes. Yes. It's not about this kid overcoming destitute poverty. No. It's about people who own 80 Taco Bells. Exactly. Yes. It's about rich people just making another gamble and then it worked out.

That's what it's really about. That's what's so heroic. Did they make money on this? Say again? Like did the family make, like did they get any of his money when he went to the league? I don't think so.

I don't think they needed money to be honest. They were like rich. Also, he apparently said, he was like, y'all made me sound like I can't fucking read. Like what is this depiction

of me to y'all? That is also true. He was like, I wasn't retarded yeah there was some green mile in it and it was it was fucking disgusting we'll take my hand boss in it yeah i didn't i didn't watch it no good for you because i knew what happened well what happened the black guy made it to the league yeah he got in yeah okay he got in i didn't watch passion of the christ for the same reason oh yeah Dove did you watch Passion of the Christ I watched it with him

and that's for the joke I was gonna let him finish what were you doing he was just there with his eyes closed yeah exactly

I took Dove as a punishment yeah cause you know it's like wait you cried oh falling never forget

but for him we'll never forget yeah every tragedy has like a memory-based slogan except that one. You ever notice that? What do you mean? A day they'll live in infamy. Never forget. No, it's this one. That's it.

Right there. Never again. But I'm saying Jesus died. There's never like, oh. Yeah, it is. I'll be back. Yes, Arnold. No, that original was Jesus. Oh, really? Three days later, no? Wait, do Jews say hallelujah?

Sure. Yeah. That's their celebration. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Oh, you think they're celebrating when Jesus died? Yeah, they killed him. Hallelujah.

Whoa. Yeah. That's y'all shit. They were killed by the Romans. The Romans. I heard different. He told me it was y'all people. Wow. You did. Yeah. The other day heard different. He told me it was y'all people.

Wow. You did. Tweet about it right now. The other day yesterday you told me it was him. Tweet about it. Post that. I'm just going off

the knowledge that I learned. You know what? I support you. Post it. Wow. I won't unfollow you. He's calling you pussy right now. He is, bro.

He's calling you pussy. I don't think he is. He's called stiff pussy. You know they're making a sequel. To what? Passion of the Christ? How? It's called The Resurrection. I don't think you are. You just called me stiff. You know they're making a sequel. To what? Passion of the Christ? How? It's called The Resurrection.

I don't know. What do you? What? If any movie in history deserved a sequel, it was Passion of the Christ. But what happened after he came back? Because I thought they show when he comes back, don't they? Yeah. In the first one?

Just a lot of light, right? Yeah, it's kind of just light. But explain to me, what happened when he came back? Were there cool stories when he came back? He comes back, he links up with some of his boys. He sees Thomas. Thomas doubts that he actually resurrected. He's kind of like tied up some loose ends, you know?

A lot of loose ends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then what happened? He goes away again. Yeah, and then he's like, I'm going to go ascend and be with the Father. We're allowed to have four matrices. We can't have two Jesuses. Yeah.

You know what I mean? We can't have two passions of the Christ. You can't have a passion twice for Christ. Yeah. Wait, when he came back, how many days was he like rocking out before he was like... No clue. Oh, okay. I got no idea. Maybe that's in there. That's probably in the movie. Yeah.

That's probably the big reveal. I thought he just like hung around. He's like, yo, what up? And then he's like, I'm out of here. Yeah. He walked on water. After he came back? No, that was before. No, that was in Galilee. Okay. I was going to say,

if I come back from the dead and you still need me to walk on water, suck my dick. Yeah, right? Fuck you. Why am I doing miracles? Can I ask y'all a serious question here? Do you think that we would have killed Jesus today

if he was doing all that shit? Because we've killed people for less. Well, today, today, like... David Blaine's still walking around? But we know he's not really walking on water. But, like, Martin Luther King was trying to help poor people. Got him. Right?

Like, everybody who tries to help the poor and disenfranchise, murked. Dude, Mr. Beast better look out, boy. I'm just saying. That's actually my concern about Jimmy actually running for president, is that, like, right now he's unanimously loved. Children, adults love him. And running for president is going to make people hate you, especially if you're, like, attacking the power structure in any way. That's the thing.

Is it poor? Is it helping poor people or is it, like, disrupting, like, the government? Like, oh, don't go to Vietnam. Who does the government serve, though? Yeah, but, like, if you're, like, running a charity. Real estate developers. Yeah. But if you're like a charity. Real estate developers. Real estate developers. Yeah. But if you're running a charity, I don't think anyone cares.

But if you're like, oh, don't join the war effort. They don't care, son. Joseph Kony fucking, remember? Remember those guys that was just trying to stop Joseph Kony? Yeah, yeah. Remember? And they made one of them go fucking crazy and jerk off in public in San Diego. They MKUltra'd him.

They MKUltra'd him. Mm-hmm. 100%. Maybe. Don't fuck with the status quo. But if the status quo is keeping poor people poor and rich people rich, then you kind of fuck them with people's money, bro.

Yeah. Selfishly, I want him to run. Yours is a valid concern. I'm just saying, like, you're so loved. You're gonna have to sacrifice that love. Yes. And you're going up against a machine. And you're gonna be so wealthy. It's like, that would be the ultimate selfless act. Yes. And you're going up against a machine. And you're going to be so wealthy.

It's like, that would be the ultimate selfless act. Yes. It's not only are you not attached to money, you're not attached to love. You're willing to give up

all the love, be hated. Also, as president, you got to do some shit that's not super likable. Yeah. It's like, oh, what do we do in this war?

And it's like, all right, we got to kill a bunch of people. Yeah. We blew like, oh, what do we do in this war? And it's like, all right, we got to kill a bunch of people. Yeah. We blew up a country and saw who survived. You don't want to be a part of all of that.

That shit sucks. That's kind of fire though, dude. It'd be sick. YouTube content. He's almost preparing for it right now. Like, this island is yours. And it's like,

what part of the Middle East? That is actually cool. We could translate those videos brilliantly yeah yeah how has nobody hired him buried alive yeah shouts at jimmy yeah okay just to bet online yo and shouts at bet online bro yo honestlyline's getting two spots this episode because we initially were talking about sports because we talk about our shit for BetOnline. So BetOnline, by the way, use the promo code FLAGRANT.

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For context, who's Jimmy? Say again? For context, who's Jimmy? Mr. Beast. Thank you. Thanks, Miles. Thank you very much. You can do no wrong.

He's right. It could have been Garoppolo. You can do no wrong. How did I pronounce Garoppolo the other day? Garoppolo, I think? No, I was doing something. I forget what it was. It's like Mr. Walken when he said it.

Yeah, Garoppolo. Garoppolo. Who are you trying to be? You're trying to do some accent. I was doing some fucking accent. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Point is, you're not thinking, you're not going to put any money down on Jimmy.

Oh, I'll put money down on Jimmy. You think 49ers got it? Oh, no. Over the Rams? Son. This shit. This is the greatest ad that's ever happened.

This is the greatest segment that's ever happened. There's two different bets happening and you guys don't even know it. You see how I got confused? You see how I got confused? I've only modeled this here for context. We've got a really huge you right there buddy come on that one right there i'm gonna admit was your fault i'm gonna admit that that was your fault you know what i mean most times i admit it's my fault but that was you right that was on you okay would you put money for jimmy on president well i would put money down on jim for president. Garoppolo. Garoppolo.

Yes, 100%. After he split the shit from that porn star, remember, last year? I think it was last year. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. No, it was two, three years ago. Last year.

Fine. You want to put some money down on that? It was... You said last year? Yeah. I'll put money. Damn, bro. You know you lost right there.

Fuck, dude. Okay. My point is, is that you go in you lost right there. You know you lost. Okay. My point is, is that you go in Rams over 49ers. Rams over 49ers. You go in Lions over Seahawks. Lions over Seahawks. One more game. I put money on the Eagles over the Jags.

They're big favorites, but I just, I don't know. They just look really fucking good right now. Unbeatable. Not unbeatable, but they're in their, the season is long, but right now they're the team. BetOnline.ag. Run it up. Guys, massive announcement. The Big Dizzy Energy Tour, the one that I started before the pandemic,

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You gave me my wife, so I love you, but I also hate you a little bit. Anyway, get your tickets at akashsingh.com, and let's get back to the show. Let's do some feelings, no facts. Can we just do feelings, no facts? I'm going to rifle through a couple stories.

No, this has been too many facts this episode. A lot of facts. I'm sick of all the facts. A lot of facts. I'm going to rifle through a story. You just tell me what your feeling is, okay? Post Malone goes up on stage, falls into a hole, allegedly breaks a bunch of ribs. Did you see the video?

Yeah. This poor guy, dude. Check it out. Also, the nicest dude, it seems like. I know. But he's just doing his thing, walking. Oh, fuck, bro. Oh, fuck, bro.

People probably don't think it's real. Oh, shit. Okay, pause. What jersey is he wearing? St. Louis Blues, probably. Don't bet on that, too. Yeah, don't bet on that, too. That's smart.

Absolutely ridiculous stage design. That's kind of crazy, right? I mean, so stupid. Especially if you know that you're doing it in the dark. Like, there are segments here in the show that are going to be in the dark.

Yeah. And you're just going to have an open hole in the middle of the stage. I think instruments or something were supposed to come out from there? It was something...

I imagine he came out from... Yeah, it was either him or they probably just didn't close it after. There was some sort of moving stage section, right? And somebody was explaining to me,

I understand why they have it like that, but the second that it changes, that has to be filled immediately. Or it has to have some sort of barrier. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, no way. No fucking way. So whose fault is this? Is this the venue? I think it's stage design. Because I imagine they do the same

stage design in every venue that they go to. Gotcha. Or every venue that can handle it. And that's on your stage designers. Now, the crazy thing is, like handle it. And that's on your stage designers. Now, the crazy thing is, and I don't know Post, but like sometimes, like I know how I am. I want a thing a certain way. And I tell motherfuckers that it has to be this way. Even if they tell me it's dangerous because you could fall into it.

So, it might be a creator thing. Yeah. And he goes, why would I fall into a fucking hole? Like, I know how to walk around. I know how to see a hole. And then, for context, Radio City Music Hall, Andrew Schultz, when we went in there to plan all the creative, he wanted to use everything.

They've got the lights. They've got different lifts. The elevator. Three different lifts, elevators. Giant lifts. And this is, like, the craziest union in the game, like the first union. And I remember the person from MSG was like, hey, just because you can use everything, it's not a cart. We're using a 100-foot LED wall.

And I'm just like, who wants to use it? Who wants to use it? You know that thing that we were coming up from? The other thing I came up when I did the intro or whatever like that? That was what, $20,000 to do that? No. That's what you told me. No, no, no, no, no.

We saved you $20,000 by getting you off stage. Yeah. It was $80,000. A minute before. Yeah, exactly. It cost way more. I wasn't trying to flex. I swear to God, I wasn't trying to flex.

They don't charge per thing. It's all included, but they have to have the crew to do it. They tape off the elevator, so there's no real way to calculate it. But she was just about safety, about saying, like, you're using absolutely everything. You're not paying for it. They're taking it off of what you make. So you're just deciding how little you want to make with all of the time. So it was really important that I got off early and Mark ran his time.

Every time he brings his stuff, okay? By the minute. I'm just saying. One minute. Do you know how hard it is to get off stage? I'm just saying. You're all going, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark. And I'm like, guys, stop it.

Stop it. Go back to it. Crazy. Take their shirts off. Intrusive thoughts in your head? Yeah, it's in my brain. If you fell, though, that was a 15-foot, 20-foot drop. I thought about that when I was going up, but they put like a little netting or some shit.

But like, if I just had my foot. Are you worried of getting your, sliced? Yep. That's crazy. I was like, what if I just got really nervous and I passed out here and just my arm leaned in? Oh, God. Just destroyed. You're fucked.

A vice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smash. Would you finish the show, though? Yeah, of course. Of course I'm going to finish the show. You were facing forward. Good thing your nose didn't get wet. Yeah, it got hit. Smash. Would you finish the show, though? Yeah, of course. Of course I'm going to finish the show. You were facing forward. Good thing your nose didn't get wet.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it got hit. You fucking jerk. Yo, Dove, you looking skinny, huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did we talk about the bet? Nah.

No, we did talk about it. We should find a way to get a bet online to do that. Did we open up with a bet on that? Oh, we should bet. We should be able to bet on that. That's a prop bet. We need a bet online to do this. So Dove and I have a $1,000 bet that in the next 40 days,

we're going to take a picture of ourselves and whoever you guys decide looks better and it has to be objective. $1,000? I'm an objective guy. Yeah, $1,000. This is Dove's idea. That doesn't seem like, I mean...

Yeah, it's not that much motivation. Right? It could be $10. That's why I think he's going. It could be $10. It could be $10. Nah, here's the thing, though. Public humiliation will drive him.

He's not driven by the money. True. But losing to Dove on the public platform. Yeah, the money is nothing to me. It's the idea. We know.

We got it. Guys, you got it. Smash on yourself. It cost $60,000 for the elevator. I was lying when I said 20.

You should have taken the stairs. It was actually much more. It was way much more. I think Dove is going to have a lot, I think Dove is crazier. Yes. I think Dove is going to have a lot. I think Dove is crazier. Yes. I think Dove is like too afraid of humiliation, whereas you'll be like, ah, it doesn't matter.

You know, we're good. You know what, though? If Dove loses, he just won't pay you, I think. No, that's easy. I'll take the money out now, and someone holds it in escrow. One of you guys. I will hold it. Me, me, me.

I will hold it, okay? That's not awful. My body's like, no. Let me hold it we have to lay out a couple things here it's not who loses the most weight obviously Dove is capable of losing

way more it's who looks the best and how do you determine who looks the best you guys decide can we do a vote like a poll on the internet no it's unfair to me or Dove. I was going to say it's unfair to Dove, but it's like, it could be unfair. Dove feels like people hate him.

That's what he feels. No, no, no, no. Some people are just going to vote for it. What if we do a poll on the street and we take the heads off? Well, that was the other idea that we could just go objectively walking up to different people on the street that don't even know and then just show the picture whose body is better. Dove also doesn't want to see the back of his body because it looks like a surfboard. I think it has to be everything below. It's below the chin above your pubes.

360? Mid-section. Mid-section. Take your shirt off. Who looks better? 360. 360. No, no, no.

In the front. We talked about this. You just said it a minute ago. No, it's the whole body. It's the whole body, no. In the front. We talked about this. You just said it a minute ago. No, it's the whole body. It's the whole body, dude. The whole torso. A shirtless picture. A shirtless picture.

Yeah, of your front and back. No. What's wrong with that? Why are you so afraid of your back? Because we said 40 days. What's wrong with your back? And I knew what I'm able to do. I have love handles that only God can take care of.

Months and months. But from my front, which you call out my little little gut right here it's your breast more they'll turn into pecs but they'll still be kind of breasty but

I'll have a six pack in 40 days that will be very visible with a great tan and you will look like a pumpkin well I'll get tan there's no question

I will that is the hardest part for you I will get a tan no that's the hardest part for you that's the hardest part for you

I'm gonna go to a tanning bed for this. Oh, you're going to go to a tanning bed? I'm doing black body. Whatever he wants to do. I'm doing black body. I will do black body like one of those workout guys. 100%. What does he want to do?

It's a huge advantage you have just because your parents are from Africa. He's got to do what he's got to do. Your parents are from Africa. Say it. You have a huge advantage. Wild boy. He's the most African-American person on this podcast. That's 100%.

He is. Way more African-American than you. Stop it. Stop it. Yeah, so there's no question. I'm definitely going to get more tan in this section. I won't tan anything else. This is fine.

Because we have to do this film still. I'll just tan from here to here. And then that's still. I'll just stand from here to here and then that's it, 100%. Yeah, that's cool actually. Yeah, this is great. $1,000, done. Perfect. Okay, feelings, no facts. Hit us.

There's a debate on Twitter, Cristiano Ronaldo versus Beyonce. Basically, this girl said that Beyonce had more global influence than Cristiano Ronaldo. Prove us wrong. You're the football fan here. She was basically like, look, I look at soccer players. I don't know any of them. I live in America and if you're trying to sell to me, you've got to go with Beyonce. That's the only person I'm going to connect with.

And all these people from all over the world were like, bro, Cristiano Ronaldo is the most sold jersey of all time. Kids in the Middle East, Africa, everywhere. What's his influence, though? Did he change football? Did he change anything? What do you mean change? Well, that's what influence is.

Influence, you can also turn around. A bunch of people want to play tennis. Everyone wants to be him. There you go. He's influenced all these people to want to be him, like him. I think Beyonce and J-Lo. Remember in the 90s how much we liked mainstream America? This is an interesting discussion.

We're not talking about who's more famous. We're talking about who's more influential. I'm sorry. I think the original claim is that... Well, let's do this because it's in the thing

and it's more fun. Okay. Who's more famous? You just look at the fucking IG followers. I think the claim is popular, but influential might be more significant.

Yeah, popularity, it's without a doubt Cristiano Ronaldo. It's not even a question. I mean, I believe it. I agree. Yeah, but influence is really interesting because there are people who are incredibly famous, but you might not do anything because you don't want to be them.

And influence has to have like an aspirational quality. And even influence in terms of just the way things change. Like Ronaldo, there was always Messi. So how much can you change the sport? Whereas I really think in the 90s, it was always Messi. So how much can you change the sport? Whereas I really think in the 90s, it was like, mainstream beauty

was like super thin girls. I think Beyonce and J-Lo helped more than anybody pushing it toward like, no, we like more full-figured women. You don't need to be that skinny.

You don't need to be anorexic and all this shit. Look like a woman. I think that's Beyonce. How did Cristiano, and again, I don't know the effects on soccer,

but like, is there something specific that he does in soccer that makes you want to play like that? When Allen Iverson, okay, so what is that? He came up with a flashiness. He made an entire soccer cleat his own. The Mercurial Vapor, everyone saw it and was like, I want that because Ronaldo wears those.

It was the fastest one. He was the fastest player on the field. So everyone was like, yeah, I want to be flashy, handsome. But shredded. Hold on one second. Shredded. like flashy handsome but like shredded but that's not influence like what steph curry did to like steph curry is way more influential than lebron it's not even a question yeah in terms of like the game of basketball correct steph has changed the way that every player plays game basketball alan iverson way more influential than lebron in terms of basketball changed the way that people played basketball lebron more popular, LeBron better, but that is influential. Jordan, same thing.

You could even argue there was a white basketball player named Jason Williams whose impact on basketball, white chocolate, was way more than people that were way better than him and the people who you could even say more

skilled and all these other things just because of the way he played the game was so different. With Ronaldo, I don't know enough about soccer to say, but I don't watch him and go, damn, he's playing soccer so different. When I see a guy like the Brazilians, like a Neymar who's got all this crazy footwork. I would say, though, that Neymar was inspired by Ronaldo. Okay, so break it down. I don't know necessarily either how he impacted soccer before, but for me, at least least growing up with Ronaldo,

it was like, oh yeah, everyone wanted to be him. And he brought a flashiness to the game, especially when he was younger. He was like 18. He would just stand in the corner and just do crazy moves. And in my opinion, watching Neymar come up, that is... He's a product of...

Yeah, he's kind of a branch from his tree. Playing with super flash. I mean, he's a product of – Yeah, he's like kind of a branch from his tree. That like playing with super flash, like not – I mean he's like a team player but still likes the attention on himself. And like just that component alone, like on such a team sport, I think is probably unique. But I don't know if he's as influential as Steph Curry was to basketball. Yeah, because again, I don't know anything about soccer. But when I watch him play, it doesn't seem like he's doing something so different than when like Maradona I see videos of him

there's certain guys you just see and you're like whoa this is just a different type of maybe what Dove was saying with the healthy lifestyle shit influence beyond like that viral video of they have the Gatorade or the Coke on the table when he's doing the press conference and he puts it down and he says don't drink that, drink water.

And it's like, maybe that influences the game. So it's bigger than just the game. There's little things like the celebration, like the way he would line up for free kicks. Everyone would just do that shit. I mean, even the celebration. Everyone does the suey shit. Do it in the UFC. Yeah, they do it everywhere.

And that's all from him. It's hard to answer this, though, because influence how singers can't really copy one another. Like, rappers maybe can, but no one can sing like Beyonce and perform like Beyonce. So it's like they would like to, but, like. Wasn't Beyonce the first one to do the unannounced album drop just all at once in the middle of the night? That is very true. Now that's the way you do it.

That's, yep. Oh, that's huge. But you're influencing singers. Like, it's a smaller number than around the world. every single person in the world outside of the U.S. You influence music around the world. Yeah, beauty standards, I think, again, to touch on just those two are pretty— I think Beyonce became like an archetype of a person that you want to aspire to be. She became like a North Star for women.

What would Beyonce do? To the left, even if she didn't follow her own shit, you're like, what would Beyonce do in this situation? Oh, tell that guy to leave. Girls run the world. Girls are powerful. And I think that influence to women was there, to gay men was there.

I mean, she was, like, super influential to dick lovers all over the world. But in terms of, like terms of like, yeah, the influence is so interesting. And that's why I think like, like, okay, to your point about music, like sometimes the micro influencer, like the person who influences the famous people is arguably the most influential because that blood enters all these other people who then give it to the masses. You're more upstream. The most furthest upstream, like the producer, like a new producer comes out, and all of a sudden,

all the songs are done by them, and then everybody's copying the sound, but it's all coming from Metro Boomin or somebody. I don't know. I'm just using somebody, Arbiter, in this situation. So yeah. This might be more of an example that's like a gatekeeper than an influencer, but apparently Atlanta strip club DJs, basically,

they decide what gets played in Atlanta in the strip clubs and that decides what the hot hip hop is. Interesting. That's a thing I've heard is like, they are the guys.

If you get your shit that starts popping in the strip clubs in Atlanta, you're hot. That's it. Nationwide, you're hot. Career, ready to go. It's clubs in Atlanta, you're hot. That's it. Nationwide, you're hot. Career, ready to go. It's like in art, there's like four galleries.

And if you're in one of those galleries, you're legitimized as an artist. And that's fucking influence. When you take somebody with zero intrinsic value, give it a cosine, and now it's worth $10,000, $20,000, $100,000, $1 million. That's influence. So the gallery has the influence? Yeah.

Okay. Anna Wintour, Kanye. I was talking to this dude about some art stuff, and I was like, what makes something like, he called himself

a treasure hunter, which is the most fire fucking term, because it wasn't just art. He was just a guy who could hustle. And I was like, what gives what gives something, uh, well, two different dudes, the art guy that was talking to him was like, what makes art value? I don't even understand this shit. It's super fucking intimidating. Like what? And he goes, you want

to look for three things. You want to look for, um, somebody who came in and is part of an artistic movement. So there's different, there's like post-modernism, there's like right now graffiti is acknowledged as like a form of art. So like who is the earliest graffiti person doing graffiti on subway cars in New York? If you had a piece from them, now that it's an established type of art,

you want someone early in a form of art that is now recognized. Someone who's been accepted by a gallery, who's been in one of the top four, and then also someone who has results from an auction. Those are the three things that establish value. People are willing to pay for it, they're part of a movement of art, and they're in one of these fancy galleries or museums. They're part of a movement of art, and they're in one of these fancy galleries or museums.

And I was like, okay, now I at least have a basis of how you fucking vote on or decide what art is worth. Because I don't know. You know what I mean? I could look at a picture and be like, wow, that's absolutely beautiful. But I don't know what makes it $500,000 or $10,000. Yeah, people say invest in art, and you're like, what is a good investment and what's not? I'm just throwing money at art? Yeah, but it kind of makes sense now. It's like, oh yeah, this was a time period where

this type of art came out and he was the originator. He started it. And then this other guy who was like this treasure hunter dude, and I was like, what makes something a treasure? He goes, rarity, intrinsic value, and then mechanics. Something built brilliantly,

something that is incredibly rare, and then something has value outside of it, of just like the parts. Do you know what I mean? The queen's watch is valuable because people care about the queen and that was hers. So like watch is the story is important with the watch? And the mechanism, but also how many. Yeah. You know? He was showing me this fucking $10 million car he used to drive around

in like London. Now it's a $75 million car. And I'm like, why is this worth that? He goes, there's only four of them. There were two and then two more got converted

and now there's four. But that's, in the world, there's only four. And people who have tons of money want to buy the things that nobody else can have. Yes.

And they're going to insert that value. He's also told me, he's like, I'm kind of out of the treasure hunter business. I'm like, why? He goes, you can't make any money anymore. I go, why not? He goes, everybody can Google the prices. Back in the day, I could go buy a watch off of somebody

in fucking Houston for 200 bucks, right? Because they're just selling it. They're in a downtime. Then go back to LA, sell it for 10,000. Now that person looks up the price. Yeah, you think about that. The antique road show type shows don't really exist. Because, yeah, I'm just going to Google this.

That's it. Pawn shops, like, everybody knows how much their shit is worth by the time they go to the Pawn Stars show. Oh, well, that show specifically, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you could just go, okay, I have this watch. That show's, like, scripted. They're, like, finding people.

Of course, of course. And it's great TV. It's fun. But, like, nobody's, they can't really rip off the people that bad. If there were cameras there, they're beating them motherfuckers in the head. Sorry, it's fake. I can give you $50. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Flipping it for 20 Gs. Yeah. Let me bring in my friend. He's an appraiser. And the appraiser's like, this is bullshit. Like, throw it away. What is wrong with you? Why would you waste my time?

Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. But cool way to launder money, though. With art, right? Yeah. Every art gallery I see that's just filled with art in, like, midtown Manhattan, I'm like, I've got to be laundering money. Yeah, of course.

I mean, that's the system, you know? And you can be like, they're like charity donations, too. So you don't even have to pay taxes on it. I mean, it's just. Yeah. You just have to hope everything doesn't fall apart because the first thing that's worth nothing when everything falls apart is the thing that's useless. Yeah.

You know? NFTs. Okay, what else we got? I have a question. Why did Taylor Swift not want to perform at the Super Bowl? Like, why would a pop star turn down a Super Bowl halftime show? Apparently they don't pay you, but also she seems like she's no fun.

Her reasoning was that she's still in the process of recording all of her albums again. That makes sense. Made it through only a few and wants to wait to go through all of them, then completely on her music again. Do you want to explain why she's doing that? Basically, her library

was sold, and in order to be able to control your music again, you re-record your masters, which is unheard of. It's like saying, Paul McCartney, go re-record. An album being owned by somebody is the recording in which they purchased. It's not the song. It's that recording of the song. So, and maybe they own it for like a few years after that or something like that. So you can re-record that song and then own that version of it.

Yeah. I think they own that recording, I assume, into perpetuity. And so you just say, all right, well, I'm going to do it. They own that recording into perpetuity. Here's my recording. This is the one we're going to put on Spotify. This is the, I'm going to do a recording. They're recording into Puppeteer. Here's my recording. This is the one we're going to put on Spotify. This is the one

I'm going to sell to our sponsors. These are my now and my masters. Which is a brilliant move on her part to take her masters back. No big brand. Unilever is not going to

go around Taylor and buy the other music for the same price. Well, here's what's going to happen next. She's going to fuck artists out of being able to do this. Because now every new contract is, we own this song.

Yeah. In perpetuity. Right, right, right. Because I imagine the old contracts were just like, well, yeah, we own the song. It is what it is. You're not going to rerecord the song. Like, that looks in bad faith.

Now it's, we own this intellectual property. That's us. But maybe you can charge more for it. And maybe? Yeah. But like, could I do that where I record a Disney song

and then put it out and then I cover some famous Disney song and then get paid from the streams from that song? Yeah. Yeah. Like,

do you have to get covers cleared? Yeah. You know what I mean? But you'll still have to pay out to the original song. If you have permission from them. Yeah, you have to get permission. You're saying, could you do it without their permission?

Yeah, because she's basically covering her own music. Look, it's the same thing. You could play a song from somebody in the club. You're on tour. You can play a Taylor Swift song. She could come for you. Or the record label could probably come for you. Hey, you're making money off of my...

But they're still cover bands. I just don't think people would make that big a statement. But the company that owns her masters, could they come to her and be like, oh, you're covering

something that we own? No, because all they own is that recording of the song. So does Disney just own that recording of the Little Mermaid? What if they own the intellectual property

of the Little Mermaid? I think the artist, which is her, she owns the intellectual property of the song. But maybe the writer that helped her gets a piece of that. Maybe she needs to get their permission. But she's known for writing her own

shit, so she made the song. Doesn't the producer own a piece too? Yeah, producer gets half. So she's going to use the same producers, do the same thing. Depends. I don't know if she's going to get the same producers. How much work is that? A shit ton of work. Is it?

Yeah. Because she's just got to sing the song she sings anyway. You've done written them. You don't sing the same. And you also have every single beat needs to be redone. So say if it was live instrumentation, now this person has to learn how to play that song. And you want it to sound good.

You don't want it to be like, eh, the second verse is kind of me. It's got to sound exactly the same. Yeah. This is a valid excuse. Because in my mind, it's like, you can't take three weeks off. No, no, it takes a long time.

You don't think that they're, you don't think she's upset that she would have to share the spotlight with other artists? I don't, yeah. I tend to think the worst of Taylor Swift all the time. I think it's a great business play.

It's like, nah, let me own all my shit so then when I do go on the Super Bowl and have another run and everybody's listening to my music, now they're listening to my new shit. She doesn't want to get that Super Bowl bump, and then they're all playing her old shit. Interesting. Yeah, so that makes perfect sense. And then as far as Rihanna taking it, there was so much hype around it,

and I couldn't really figure out why. It's Rihanna, man. Yeah, because Rihanna... I don't think that... Rihanna's big, but I'm like... She's like... Michael Jackson did this. Like, Jimi Hendrix.

Like, every big musician does a Super Bowl. Yeah, but Michael Jackson was 30 years ago. Yeah, but like... Jimi Hendrix is long dead. Who did it last year? Long dead. Did he do the Super Bowl, by the way? I think so.

I don't know. I think he did Woodstock. Yeah, maybe I'm thinking of Woodstock. Is that different? Are you. I think he did Woodstock. Yeah, maybe I'm thinking of Woodstock. Is that different? Are you thinking of Prince? Yeah, Prince. Maybe I'm thinking of Prince. The one where it rains, right?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, 15 years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm like, what is the... Issue with Rihanna doing it? Why are people so stuck? I think people just love Rihanna. People love Rihanna.

She's bigger than music. But every year they get a huge act at the halftime. And every year people get excited. Yeah, but we haven't seen Rihanna. People get excited for the commercials. Oh, what do you mean? She hasn't put out an album in almost like, I think, almost 10 years now. Rihanna is...

It's been so long since her last album. That's a good point. And she doesn't talk. So now it's like, holy shit, we're going to see Rihanna. There's an air of mystery about Rihanna that's really exciting. Whoever's managing her, and I'm not talking about like, Jay-Z manages Rihanna or whatever. I'm talking about whoever's day-to-day crafting her career has done a fucking awesome job.

I mean, she's a billionaire. Yeah, I think it's more so just her because she's like, she went out on a banger of an album. Like the last album that she put out was like instant classic. Crazy. Everybody loved it. Yeah. And so, and then she had the Fenty and like, so the makeup and then the clothes, that shit blew. She's bigger than music.

Yeah, so now it's like she's making so much more money from the other shit. It's like, where's the motivation to still do music? It's music. It's like you've got to bust your ass. You've got to learn these fucking choreography. You've got to go travel places. I could just make money. She has two things.

That, bigger than music. She's like a mogul icon, whatever you want to say, and she's still culturally relevant. The Super Bowl has not had both of those things. Dr. Dre, bigger than music, sure, probably a billionaire, whatever. He's not culturally relevant. Again, Beyonce was a big deal. This is not the only time we've gotten excited about the Super Bowl halftime show.

I don't know if you know this. It's been a big deal before. Yeah, I just don't know. I'm like, every time they get a big person and every time it's a good show, and I'm like, but for this time, it's like, I cannot believe they got Rihanna. I'm like, why? They have unlimited money. No, they don't pay.

Nobody's excited that they can't believe they got Rihanna. They're just excited to see Rihanna. Yeah, and they don't pay you, for the record. But go on YouTube. You can Google Rihanna. Maybe they changed it very recently, but until very recently, they did not get paid. And also, Rihanna't pay you for the record. But go on YouTube. You can Google Rihanna. At least maybe they changed it very recently. But you don't see it live. Until very recently, they did not get paid. And also, Rihanna, if you look at her hits, she has the greatest collabs.

So she should be able to get Jay-Z, Kanye. She should be able to. Fucking fire. But that's what makes those shows the best. She's the perfect guest for the Super Bowl. Because the songs are amazing. She's got a million fucking hits to choose from. She has ones that obviously—

She has techno. Yeah, she has every different genre. I don't think that there's a I-hate-Rihanna music person out there. No, every person likes a song. Right? Like you said, she has the house shit. She's got R&B. She's got hip-hop.

Like, it satisfies everything. There's probably even like a rock song. No, there is a rock. There's a country song with um... There's a country song. Oh, Paul McCartney? She's got a country song. I think so. That's Beatles. Oh, that's not a country?

No, that's not. White people shit is all... It's country. Okay, what else? That's the song I'm talking about. Oh, with Paul McCartney. Yeah. And Kanye.

So that's not? It's not really country, but it is like acoustic. Fuck you, that shit is country. That is a good-ass point. Give us one more, Mark. Okay, there's this crazy shit happening right now with the Try Guys. Do you know what a Try Guy is? No.

Okay, Miles, can you explain what a Try Guy is? The Try Guys were a group of four guys that were... Temperature. I don't do it anymore. Who is this guy? I need my nipples hungry. I've had too many. Because when I say it, you already know what it is.

Temperature. Temperature. Go. When we do the shirtless competition, it's going to be at 50 degrees. many because when I say it you already know what it is temperature go when we do the shirtless competition it's going to be 50 degrees keep it tight the chai guys were four guys that did viral videos for buzzfeed where they would try to do things

they would have all these videos and then they got bigger than buzzfeed they left buzzfeed took the name the IP all of that stuff and made their own channel they're beloved on the internet. They're sort of quirky. They are just really well-liked. And there's a guy on there named Ned, and Ned was married to this woman who he also made content with

that was super well-loved, and then he cheated on his wife with a producer of the Try Guys. And they've had to fire him from the Try Guys. It's really imploded them. It's big on the internet. Did they fire him for sleeping with the producer? Yeah. Why? Because it was like

he was her boss. He says it's consensual. He says this. It's a consensual relationship that I made a mistake on. You're trying to make a new video. Let me try to sleep with my producer. Yeah, exactly. The crazy thing is it blew up internally first, and they were like, oh, you can't be banging our producers. You gotta go.

And then he was caught in public at a bar with the girl, and someone took a picture like, yo, this is the guy that makes wife content, and then posted online. It's like, why is he kissing this girl? And then he makes wife content? He's basically monopolized his relationship, or I guess commodified his relationship? Like he's like basically monopolized his relationship or I guess like

commodifies his relationship where he's like I'm the wife guy and I love my wife and me and her we do TikTok together and this is my wife and like our relationship.

Every single time. Yep. Every single motherfucking time. Yeah, that's very fair to say. The harder they fall, bro. It's like that Adam Levine fucking thing.

There was that picture that came out of him. It was a real long time ago, but he was at some concert. He had a blue shirt on that just said feminist on it. And it's just like every single time, the more perfect they seem, the more piece of shit they are.

And people are so afraid for some reason to just be a piece of shit openly when we like pieces of shit. It makes us feel normal. It makes us feel okay. That's why I love Michael Blackstein. He's like, bro, I get girlfriends sometimes. Yeah. Me and my wife, we have a thing.

We're cool. Like, that's what he does. But he's just, like, super open about it. He's like, I don't have to hide this. This is what I'm doing. God bless. But it is wild that he, I don't know. I'm like, sleeping with your producer, yeah, I get.

That's worth getting him out of there. Wait, no, why? Why? Because he works there. Power dynamic, they're cuffs, it's a thing. No, no, no, I don't subscribe to this. I don't like this idea that humans are not capable of making decisions. And I think that's what that is.

I understand you have to set up rules to protect all these people because there are these bad actors that are willing to take advantage of the people that are working for them. But I also think that you can develop a consensual and loving relationship with somebody you work for, or somebody that works for you. So it sucks that we're basically, like, eliminating those relationships. And I bet if you look back, like, in time, the majority of fucking human beings have probably met their wife by working with them. It's a huge percentage.

Huge. Like huge conflict of interest. Don't you think it kind of throws the vibe off a little? There's also like declarations. Or creates the vibe. Yeah. You're both passionate

about the same thing. You both have all that in common. You're spending so much time together. You're building like a real foundation of relationship based on like mutual interests. But if their brand is built on being good guys

and you're out here sleeping with someone else. We're not talking about that. We're talking about... What you're talking about, though? Consensual relationships in the workplace. If you go to HR, you have to close the relationship, then you're fine.

There's no question. If you go to HR and disclose the relationship, then you're fine. What Mark is saying, I think you were saying, is that the relationship itself is null and void because of the power dynamic that exists. No, no, no.

They can have a consensual relationship, but I get why they would want to either change her around or, if he was not disclosing the relationship, terminate his employment. Yeah. So what you're saying is— He's being sneaky because he's cheating on his wife, so he can't say, I'm in a relationship with the producer. So he can't go to HR. So then they find out. He can't legitimize it. And then I get why they're determining his employment, because he's not disclosing.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, he's a hypocrite for being wife guy while also doing it. But at the same time, it's like one of those people that, like, find their fucking shtick, and now they're, like, a prisoner of the shtick. Yeah. Like, he's not wife guy as much as he, like, he's not in love with his relationship as much as he is in love with making money being wife guy.

Yeah. Being in love with himself. And it's also scummy on the girls' part. It's like, yo, you know this guy's got a wife. You see her every week. She comes in. They make content together. Now here's the question.

He's been fired, obviously. Power dynamics, many things happen in the reason he's fired. There's not word, as of from what I know at this exact moment, if the producer has been fired also. She shouldn't get fired. Wait, why not? She also broke the rules, right? No.

Only the senior person breaks the rules. Interesting. Yeah, because of the power dynamic. What if he pressured her to sleep with him? Consent can't exist with power vacuums. It's like, hey, if you want to keep your job, you got to suck my dick. I think that's a bit black and white.

Isn't it? Consent cannot exist with a power dynamic. You know what I mean? Well, there's always a power dynamic. That's the other thing. It's like even if they won't work for somebody, there's always going to be a power dynamic. Yeah, it exists, so then disclose it. I mean, if we really want to talk about it, the power dynamic is wildly skewed towards women.

We cannot have sex with them unless they say, okay, it is illegal. That's not 50-50. That is zero, 100. If a woman marries a rich guy, if a rich guy dates a beautiful girl, is he taking advantage of the power dynamic, the fact that I'm a rich guy? 100%. They take advantage of the access to all the things he different has. Of course.

Yeah, but we're saying in the workplace it's different. In the workplace, somebody can hold their job over you, and that's the deciding factor. That's fucked up, and there are guys that do that, and that's fucked up, and that's horrible. And I think the real mess up here is when women, and this is the Weinstein shit, it's like when women complain about this, and they cover it up and protect the person in power, like that, these people right here that are protecting the guy who's fucked up destroys consensual work relationships.

Because now that woman has no recourse to keep her job and protect herself. And then every other girl in the company's like, I better not say her off so I'm going to get fired.

But if every time the woman complained, they just fired the fucking boss who broke the goddamn rules, then we can have consensual, sorry? Yeah, or it could happen the other, yeah, go ahead, then we can have consensual, sorry? Yeah, or it could happen the other, yeah, go ahead, sorry.

But we can have consensual work relationships because any time it was uncomfortable or a dude crossed the line or a woman crossed the line and that was complained about and that person got fired, everybody's free. But now we have to build all these fucking rules because these assholes in HR and like the shareholders in these fucking board meetings are going, hey, we can't get rid of this fucking CEO, we can't get rid of this fucking CEO. We can't get rid of Weinstein. He's really good at picking movies.

So protect that motherfucker even though he's a rapist. It's like all those people should be going down with Weinstein. Yes. 100%. 100%, bro. 100%. If a girl says, hey, this guy fucking raped me, and you go, well, don't you want to work in Hollywood, blah, blah, blah, blah. You are aiding that rapist. The guy that the girl went to.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The guy at HR. But the girl shouldn't. No, no, no. The girls who kept quiet. No, no, no, no. The guys who quiet the women. Or the women who quiet the women.

But the ones who protect the fucking rapist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with that. And I'm like, that whole, it's like the rapist and the protectors are the people that make it so uncomfortable for the, I guess, the women or even the men that are subordinate. Is that the word? Yeah. Yeah, like, you're completely powerless in that situation.

And now you can't even raise within the company because now you're terrified these people don't have your protection. If you're comfortable being vocal, there's not the power dynamic being exploited nearly as much. Thank you for articulating that. But that's if the systems that you're talking to are even willing to hear your complaint. To his point, that's the problem. Yeah. The problem is that, because like he said earlier,

most, not most, a huge percentage of relationships begin in the workplace. A lot of those relationships before this, a lot of those relationships, there was a power dynamic, like just in the sense that one person was a boss and one person was not a boss. So if we have an environment where this subordinate person is comfortable

being vocal, if they're, if this person is making them uncomfortable, then that shit is all, we can just have more questions. But do you feel like most workplaces probably favor a really talented, powerful racist? Yes, they do. And that's why you should punish the people who help cover up for that guy, that powerful

man or woman, that person that helps cover up should be just people who help cover up for that guy, that powerful man or woman. That person that helps cover up should be just as culpable. But you're saying it's like, oh, it's those companies that fuck it up forever. I'm like, I think that's probably just most organizations. It's those people that cover it up, that fuck it up forever. To be honest with you, I think the system that's set up is by the shareholders or by the protectors. It's like, why don't we just make it so nobody can fuck anybody here, and then our CEO won't fuck it up

by screwing some of the employees and then pissing them off. So we're just going to make this blanket rule to protect our real golden goose, which is the CEO, not his secretary. And if it does both, they're like, yeah, but... And it's probably just an easier way to legislate. I don't have to get into the nitty gritty and waste fucking time with who's right and who's wrong.

You didn't disclose, you're fired. Yeah. We're saving a lot of time. That's why this shit is crazy with the Celtics coach. Yo, that story keeps getting more and more. My man is a wild boy, bro. So at first I was like, kind of, I wouldn't say on his side, but I'm just like, nah, it's foul to fire him if it was a consensual situation. You didn't fire him initially, right?

It was like he was going to get suspended. They told him to cut it out. Yeah, they were like, yo, cut it out. So it's like, Joey Gladstone. So they knew about this shit. And they were just, everybody was just like, yo, just chill out with this shit. They were letting it rock. But then, my boy was a

wild boy out here, and he's like, nah, you gotta go. So what are the most recent details? I saw he was sending, he was making a lot of women uncomfortable, and inappropriate comments, inappropriate messages, I think. And one of the women he had a long-term relationship with was also helping Nia Long fucking move to Boston. His wife. She would handle the flights for the team.

That was one of the things that she was doing. So part of that is flying the family. Which is he may do it with Udoka's fiance, Nia Long. But this is also Boston and any news that comes out of there, like, they know how to make

somebody look like shit. What do you mean, why Boston? Boston Sports Media in particular. Now let's go to every single female staff member

and be like, has he ever made you feel uncomfortable? We need you out of here. And it's like, say the right thing. I didn't know that. Boston Media is crazy.

Perfect. Like, for Boston. Yes, yes. It's like Russia. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, the only thing getting out is exactly what we want out to make us look the best. Yeah.

But yeah, it's crazy, because I think he was smashing the, who's the fucking, Brad Stevens, who was the coach and is now, I believe, the president's the fucking Brad Stevens who was the coach and is now I believe the president of the team and he's a VP or the GM VP whatever it is Danny Ainge is probably

the president Danny Ainge is with Utah now oh they okay so maybe he's the new but whatever it doesn't matter he's front office role I think he was smashing

his assistant and it's just like buddy what do you fucking do that's gotta be sex addiction right or power power that's got to be sex addiction, right? Or power. Power.

That's a power. But sex addiction has got to be power addiction too, right? Like in a way. Yeah, I think addiction manifests itself in weird ways. And it's just like, does he really need to get the nut off? Or is he just like, I'm going to fuck your assistant, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah, this guy.

I bet there's even wilder shit that we don't know about. Because if these are the girls, like, is this right? Remember when Adam Levine came out and four more bitches were like, yeah, he was doing this with me too. It's like, we got like one or two. If you're doing it with two, watch that. Yeah. If you're willing to roll the dice and throw it all away. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's probably way more. And it's just crazy. I mean, this guy had everything. He had a good career in the sense of like, he always had a team. He, in his first fucking year, took the Celtics to the finals. Wife, knee along.

She's wearing your fucking jerseys, rooting for your team, and then you're just out here trying to fuck everyone on the team. I don't want to go crazy conspiracy, but I think that, I think a lot more people knew about this. Oh, got to.

And I think outside of just the Celtics organization. Yeah. Oh, you think so? And the reason I think is because you have a first-year black head coach that is doing incredible things. Yeah. In Boston. Goes to the finals in Boston, right, with a major team. Boston Celtics are a major NBA franchise. And this is the first time I'm even seeing this guy's name.

Like, usually this is a story that the league goes, hey, put some gas on this. This is what we need. This is a great opportunity. Right? Like this is one of the things you almost virtue signal about, especially a historic franchise

like the Celtics, which is, dang, I could say racism. The city of Boston doesn't have the best reputation. I mean, LeBron called them out last year.

Exactly. LeBron called them out. Now the organization, I mean, they had Bill Russell and then Bill Russell became head coach. Yeah, Red Auerbach made him

the first black head coach. First black head coach, right? And obviously earned one of the greatest players ever, but still. So the organization itself, maybe you could say, hasn't been super racist. But still, an awesome opportunity for the league and the Celtics to go, here's our golden goose. The fact that that never happened, that a lot of people are finding out this guy's name for the first time right now, lot of people are finding out this guy's name for the first time right now yeah to me says maybe it was one of those fucking things where it's like the hr people are going yo he's a kind of wild boy so we're gonna look the other way and we're not gonna make him the the pride and joy brad

stevens was the fucking pride and joy and maybe he got a lot of love if you watch but not like you would think in the in the fact that his name make it to y'all. Genius coach. Oh my God, he's so brilliant. And look at what his play calling is here. This story, especially if they won, and they came very close to winning. If they were a little older, they would have won. But it would have been a fucking movie.

It was like out of every movie. First black head coach, first year. They start off not good. They're like really struggling. They're thinking about trading Jalen Brown. And then all of a sudden, they just turned it around. It was like fucking Hoosiers. And then they just went on this crazy tear the back half of the season.

I think they knew, bro. So what happens? I think it's also harder to say his name, so people kind of avoid saying it. Yeah, that's the point. We haven't said it one time because none of us know how to say it. That's the Celtics coach. Ime Udoka. It's not as hard as it is.

What is it? Ime Udoka. All right. Brad Stevens is good. Yeah, Brad Stevens is different. Did he do anything illegal? I can't believe you're defending them names, bro. No. This guy a wild boy.

No, no, no. This guy a wild boy. Your name is too hard. I went for the joke. I went for the joke. No, I don't think he did anything illegal. He did something that maybe was against the rules for the organization. Company policy, whatever.

He can't go to jail or nothing. That's not what it is. He's not being accused of assault or anything. No, no. No, he's just smashing everything. Yeah. Like, what an idiot. Like, you have to be a fucking monumentally dumb guy or addicted to be able to kind of fuck however you want.

Like, you're a good-looking young coach. It's not like the DMs ain't there. Yeah. Like, you can't. That's true. Now, maybe he's like, I'm going to keep it close and just fuck around here and then in the organization nobody will say anything. Maybe. That's the definition of shit and where you sleep, right?

Literally. Yeah. I mean, it just seems crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it just seems crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And apparently the guy they got to replace him also,

fuck, he has like a DUI, maybe there's an assault and battery. He has some shit on him too. Yeah. But this story's so crazy.

A DUI in Boston. That's true. Whatever it is, it's some shit that he has some character knocks too, but this story's so crazy, we're like,

whatever, man, let's just quiet this the fuck down. Hey, son, they had to know. and this is another thing to your point the NBA by all accounts is like a very small

tight knit circle these stories motherfuckers know the LeBron's mom story from what I understand motherfuckers knew knew inside yeah

the whole league knew yeah you gotta understand like a lot of these guys have been playing together since they're 12 years old yeah they're like talking group chats all. You know what I mean?

They're talking, group chats. All this, like, when they bark at one another, and then they go, how can they be on the same team? And it's like, they've been barking at each other since they're 13. Yeah, yeah. AAU, like. Yeah, they know. Did you hit up your boy about this? Yeah.

Did he give you anything inside? I found out who the real affair was before it came out. And that was like, and I was like, God damn. You went after the fucking head dude's assistant? That's crazy. That's crazy. Now, the one thing I'm curious about is if, let's say, like a higher up person hooks up with a secretary or a younger person in the thing. He gets fired because he didn't disclose.

Nothing happens to him or her that's a subordinate? No. Like, are they seen as a liability? Like, oh, this, like, hypothetically, let's say there's a secretary that hooked up with, like, three CEOs in a row and they all keep getting fired. So that's the thing about the, that's the thing about, like, being perceived as a victim. Like, you can't even fire her because she go, I was taken advantage of and I thought my job was on the line.

Even if that ain't really what would happen. If it happens twice? Oh, she's been smashed by multiple people? Let's say it happens two times. Let's say this situation happens again

with the next head coach. Still. Same girl. Still. Still, she's a victim, bro. They held her job over her. They're going to try to get rid of her some other way.

They're going to know she's structure. Yeah, she's not going to get any, what is it called, advancement in her career. Of course not're going to know she's trouble. Yeah, she's not going to get any, what is it called, advancement in her career. Of course not. You don't need to promote, you just can't outwardly fire out of nowhere. You kind of want them to quit.

And it's not on the woman to do this, it's on both of them to do this, but like when you're looking at the staff that you have and who you're going to reward, like you want the girl who's slapping dicks out of her fucking face, right? Like, you know what I who's slapping dicks out of her fucking face. I know it sounds crazy. The dick shouldn't be there, but you also want the girl going, yo, what the fuck are you doing?

Yo, we're in a finals run, you idiot. Are you about to fuck this whole thing up for a dick suck? You could take this team to the finals. If I hear that I got that chick on the staff... You're the coach. You're the new coach. You'd be the dick suck help take them to the finals. Yeah. Like if I hear that I got that chick on the staff. You're the coach. You're the new coach.

You'd be the dick suck help take them to the finals. Even before. It had to be before. If the dick sucks going to the finals everybody's quiet. That's why they wait

until after the season right? Brad Stevens is like smash it out. I get another assistant. You know what I mean? Day one annoying birthday day.

Yo I get it. Guys thank you so much for listening to Slaver Man. I appreciate y'all so much. I get a text from your boy. He texts me and goes, yo, happy birthday. Hope you have a great day.

I didn't respond to it. I was busy, you know what I mean, podcasting. Today, emphasize it. Who's my boy? Jason. Yo, he want that fucking reaction. Shout out to Jason, dog. If you say happy birthday.

Hey, thanks for wishing Mark a happy birthday, dog. This thankless piece of shit. I'm going to get back to you and say thanks so much. No, but you saw it. And you chose not to respond. I didn't open it yet. I didn't open it. But you saw it and you chose not to respond.

I didn't open it. He does that so much. Oh, my bad. We were doing a podcast. Why don't you repost my birthday story? I don't like to put it on my Instagram. Because it was a Jewish thing, huh? Yeah, yeah.

It was a menorah. My mom follows me. Yeah. No, I know. It's just the whole thing. I don't want people to be like, oh, it's your birthday. See? It was a menorah. My mom follows me. Yeah. No, I know. It's just the whole thing. I don't want people to be like, oh, it's your birthday. See?

See? You gotta not respond to their texts. Yeah. Why'd he make it about him, Jason? And why did Dove make it about him? Thank you. Two Jews made it about them. Oh, oh.

You guys did that. I'm saying it. Say it to someone happy birthday. Oh, that's interesting. You don't need to follow up. You don't need to be like, hey, circling back on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, bumping this up. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for making a little less happy. Say that to him. Thanks for't need to follow up. You don't need to be like, hey, circling back on this. Hey, bumping this up. Thanks for making a little less happy. Say that to him. Thanks for making a little less happy. I didn't know I had to do work on my birthday.

I had to respond to you. What? I don't know. All right, this just happened. I'm frustrated. Yo, just go, who dis? Just hit him with a who dis. Just got a new phone.

Lost all my numbers. Sorry. All right, listen, but we got to get out of here, man. Guys, guys, we've been watching Play Great or something. We'll see you later.

Have a good night. Peace.