Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts: Chappelle Makes Trans Employees WALKOUT?

Episode Date: October 15, 2021

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What up people, Shultz here and you guys are about to listen to a clip from our weekly Patreon episode. If you want to sign up to our Patreon, support the flagrancy, support what we are doing, completely uncensored, flagrant content, you go to patreon.com slash flagrant2. With no more interruptions, here is the exclusive clip. anything else from and uh the special seems like the outrage continues it seems like i don't want to speak too soon but it seems like this might be the tipping point yes it seems like the executives might have realized that they could push back and there will be more support in their pushback than there will be in their cancellation. And I think I think Chappelle is an example of someone who's too big to fail. Right.

In other words, like at the end of the day, like these people are capitalists. Right. They're not moralists. They're capitalists. Right. So as they should be, they exist in a capitalist country. capitalists right so as they should be they exist in a capitalist country and uh when we're talking about like saying words and saying jokes you're not listen i'm not going to define like how you're actually hurting somebody but you're not basically saying you you're not equal to other people right

right being spoken about is different than treating someone actually differently in terms of like the law like if if the head of netflix came said like, yeah, we just don't do any trans shows on this platform, that would be wrong. Right. But if the head of Netflix is like, hey, we have jokes about black people. We have jokes about Jews. We have jokes about Puerto Ricans.

We have jokes about Asians. Everybody gets joked about on this platform, including trans. There is more consistency, even if you're outraged. All of those groups can also be outraged. Correct. But he is big enough where it's worth the scrutiny. Yes.

And maybe that's unfortunate for a younger comic coming up, but at the same time, you get to look at it and you go, oh shit, there's a tipping point. I can get successful enough to say what the fuck I want. I had the exact same feeling, and I said this, I didn't think in the same terms of pure capitalism, but I said this, when Chappelle did Sticks and Stones, to be honest, it's my least favorite of the six Netflix specials, but it was really important that that guy was going at cancel culture.

We can be forerunners of flagrancy and all of that, but Chappelle is the guy that has enough cultural currency where if he fights back against it, the silent majority feels a little bit more like being like, yeah, yeah, I can. Now they can get a little louder and say, yo, Chappelle funny you can act like he's offensive but i don't give a fuck he's funny and i'm very confident saying chapelle is funny and y'all are wrong and once he started doing that and leaned in and didn't back off i think you heard every dude i remember bossa posted something a week ago about it and the comments in Bossip tend to be pretty liberal. But they were like, yo, the special is funny.

These guys need to just let it go. Funny is funny. And that is where I think I was like, yeah, this is the tipping point. This is the guy that needed to do it. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's like, I don't know. There's something to having that currency, having that value as an entertainer where you have earned the right to get away

with these things because the corporations don't take any loss. Yeah. You know, it's similar to being a feature on the road. Like, let's say you're featuring for somebody in stand-up, right? You can say whatever you want to say when you go on stage before that headliner. And you can say whatever you go on stage, you know stage when you're performing that club for the first time. But your goal is to continue performing at the club. Now, you can be the hard ass.

You can choose to go, I'm going to say whatever the fuck I want. I don't care if these venues let me play, et cetera. And then you might not get any stage time and it might be harder for you to develop your act, et cetera. and it might be harder for you to develop your act, et cetera. But you can also choose to play by the rules that the venue has imposed on you or the headliner has imposed on you. Right. And then learn how to succeed within those rules

and build up your audience, build up your leverage to the point where you can make a Chappelle-type situation where you can get away with whatever you want. Yes. And look, we found different ways around it when we were starting out. What we basically said is,

well, we're going to produce our own shows. Producing your own show is like being your own Netflix. Yes. A microcosm of it, but you can't get canceled from your own show.

Way less subscribers to our Patreon than Netflix, but it's ours. Yes. We can't fire ourselves from it. Yes. I mean, I guess Patreon could do something,

but what I mean, like live stand-up shows. You know what I mean? But if you're willing to play within the system, that's something that you're going to have to negotiate with and see how much clout you could build up and what you can get away with, you know?

And also, this is again hammering my point home, defending Chappelle as a human being doesn't require much bravery. If you want to defend me, who nobody really, like people don't really know like that, you got to be real fucking sure I'm funny. But you can very confidently as just a fan be like not chapelle is funny y'all are wrong defending a guy that's

kind of obscure or whatever it doesn't have nearly the spotlight it just takes a lot more strength for a common person to even tweet not chapelle is funny these guys are wrong it's also the perfect group to pick to be canceled for because the majority of people truly don't understand trans so people do understand gay even if they don't like it they understand it right they empathize with it they have an uncle that's gay they have a cousin that's gay they have a friend that's gay there's something about homosexuality that's just way more understandable they've seen characters in their favorite TV shows that are gay. They understand it.

You probably have a gay family member. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I don't know if it was gay. My bad, yeah. So it's just way more digestible, homosexuality. So when you're saying something that the gay community is offering pushback for, all of a sudden you start thinking about that human being that you know and love. Yes, yes.

Right? Trans is so foreign to the average person right like I know Mark you said you have a trans friend but like anybody else here have not only trans but like a trans person in any way in their life yep who Mark's friend that he just said that he knows

anyway I don't like someone that you personally interact with it could be literally the person that serves you coffee at your favorite diner. Yeah, no. Not at all. It is such a small part of the population that occupies such a large part of the conversation, right? Because I'm sure it's thrown into this culture war a little bit. But it's the perfect group that if you have to get canceled for something, because the majority of people, we're not talking about industry.

The majority of people have no fucking clue what the trans thing is so they're kind of like i don't really care what you say it's like getting canceled for like the mong chinese population it's like how many is that exactly so so now if you're a network exec you're like hold on i'm gonna cancel the biggest comedian for a group of people that don't even got a netflix account like yeah you know what i mean like i don't point one percent of netflix accounts are for this community i'm gonna cancel my biggest comic for that yeah i'm a capitalist right and that don't make no fucking sense yeah yeah so it is the perfect group to beef with like if you want to die on the horse of racism you're gonna be dead yeah yeah you know what i? You want to die on the horse of homophobia, you're going

to be dead. You want to die on the horse of some sort of religious bigotry? You know what I mean? Like attacking Christians or something like that. Christians are a little bit easier to go after, but still, you're going to have a large percent of the country going, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Really, any religion. You go after Islam. I mean, he attacked Jews. Yeah. Say what? Well, he attacked Israel. And he barely didn't. It's just a joke. It's a couple of jokes. Nothing crazy.

If he said what he said about Jewish people, about trans people. Oh, forget it. It's over. If he made the whole special just about the Israel-Palestine situation like he did about the trans thing. Gotcha. Oh, we're going to have a conversation. All right, guys. We're going to take a break from this exclusive patreon clip you can find the whole episode at patreon.com slash flagrant too though but i gotta tell you about

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I just wish black people had the same rights as trans people. So if you cancel Dave Chappelle, you kind of prove his point if you pull him from netflix it's like oh you're canceling the black guy for saying hey please give us the same rights as trans people ah now it's a very clever positioning that's that's the way i'm trying to word it yes because he wins either way yeah his point is proven if you cancel him yeah and if he doesn't get canceled, then awesome. Yeah. I mean, he says this brilliant line where he says, if you think I'm transphobic,

you're not listening or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, that was so good. I gotta use that on my girl. Yeah, I know. If you think I'm wrong, you're not listening

to what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Like, say, even in the middle of a fight, like, if you think I don't love you, you're not listening. And she's like, what? I mean, it's brilliant.

I didn't even know we were talking about her. I heard you say that, and I'm like, yeah, you must love her. Yeah. I love you. Why are we arguing?'s like what i mean it's a brilliant i heard you say that i'm like yeah you must love her yeah i love you why are we arguing yeah yeah why would we be disagreeing about how much i love you and then she's like we're not even fucking talking about love right now yeah i guess he's brilliant he's brilliant man such a simple ass line just get you like good anything yeah it makes you question your own like am i an idiot did i not care

am i stupid maybe I'm not listening. And what he was saying was 100% transphobic. That's the genius of it. It was by definition transphobic. No, no, no. 90s out of the book. By trans people's definition of transphobia

it is by the book transphobic. But also by their definition 95% of people are transphobic yes because 95 of people are ignorant to what they define transphobia as yeah yes 95 of people just sitting here like bro like i i don't get it yeah you're a guy or you're a girl yeah that's all you know what i mean like we we do not understand all this other shit. Yeah. And it gets cloudy

with the million different genders. it just keeps changing. It feels like they're not losing, but you ever play a game with like, your cousin when you're kids

and then he just keeps switching the rules up to win? Yeah. It's like, what's going on? Yeah. That's kind of,

I think, an underlying emotion we have about like, what is two-spirit? I wonder if trans people, like the OG trans people are kind of annoyed by all these like new genders. Yeah.

But they can't say anything because they're fighting for the same cause. Yeah. So it's like, you know how like gays were kind of annoyed by trans when trans came out? Yeah. Because they were like, we got to include them, but God damn. We just got this shit. Yeah. Come on, yo.

Stop clowning it up. Where you been this whole time? Right? We got all the rights, now you're here. Yeah. And then to trans, maybe they feel the same it up. Where you been this whole time? Right? We got all the rights, now you're here. And then the trans, maybe they feel the same way about Two-Spirit and all these other ones. Because it's like, they're out here like, listen, gender is fluid. And then these other people are like, oh, yeah, it is.

Oh, my God, bro. We just want them to accept the fact that I don't have a penis, but I think I'm a guy. Yeah. Apparently, there is beef. Have you heard of this dude, Buck Angel? Yes, the fucking workout guy. Yeah, yeah like og like trans person from like the 80s the 90s yeah and like has all this beef with like new trans people because like he would just do shit that was like yeah he would like call himself a transvestite and he like did porn because like he didn't really know where to fit in the world he's like i'm i feel like a guy like so i guess what i would say to trans people is like the way y'all feel about the two spirits

yeah most people feel about y'all right like so whatever emotion you got when you hear someone saying i'm two-spirit and yeah i'm 69 j i'm i'm asexual i'm part whatever got when you hear someone saying, I'm two-spirit and I'm 69, I'm asexual, I'm part whatever. When you look at them and you go, oh my God, here we go again. That's unfortunately for you how most people that just identify as male or female view the trans community. So have a little empathy. Because even though you truly feel what you're going through is real and it is real to you, I'm assuming it is real to you,

as ridiculous as these other things are to you, you might be just that ridiculous to somebody who just grew up and I'm going to throw this in quotes, normal. Yeah. Right? Yeah, have some empathy.

Have some empathy. It's an easy position to have empathy for i think which i think most people do it's just like all the twitter shit like again i think matter of fact there was a trans comic on the show that i performed with and i said and they were mad cool he was mad cool i guess the whole time and we're just talking shit and then at the end he says something i go yes ma'am and i'm like yo my bad i didn't mean to and then he just goes it's all good man it's fine i appreciate you apologizing reaches the hand out and it's like oh if he took that opportunity to shame me i'd have been like yo fuck these motherfuckers dog but he was like hey it's

cool i appreciate the apology i was like oh okay oh it's a girl the guy girl the guy if again if they took that high horse opportunity to be like how dare you i'd have been like hi motherfucker can i not just make a mistake yeah exactly how i treat it. It's like, yeah, it's all good. You made a mistake. That's another thing. I bet most trans people are okay with the mistakes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, man. That's how this comic that I know, that I'm friends with, I'd like, I said, guy, it was guy to girl, and I said,

yeah, what's up, man, or something like that. I was like, oh, my bad. And then she goes, I mean, it's cool. I didn't know I was a girl until like two years anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like, all right. It took you 17 years to figure this shit out yeah i'll give you a few months like you'll figure it out so like i don't know most people i know i mean i only know one trend yeah all right just my last question like when they got a piss real bad like if you're a trans woman but you still got the schmacks you know when you got a p bad you like rolling up to the urinal like pulling your dick like you're a guy in that situation right like yeah you can't not be a guy.

Like, even the way you rip your cock out real fast. Oh, yeah. Like, there's nothing female about that moment. Like, when you're, like, pacing from side to side, like, moving back and forth. Well, you can pull your dick out like a woman. How? I don't know, like, more delicately, like, with the fingers, like. I'm saying, when you got a go-go, are you sitting down on the toilet,

or are you whipping that shit out, and you just having that moment? But you can whip it out femininely. How? Just with your finger, like, I don't know. Nah, nah. If you gotta pee, you gotta pee, bro. You do it like that. No, I'm like Willow Smith. Just whip your hair back and forth. I just whip their dick out back and forth, son. You can whip it out.

Nah. You can pull it out like a lady. You can pull your dick out like a lady, bro. Pinkies up. Nah, dog. But it's not... You have to pee bad. Yeah, but just because you have to pee bad doesn't mean you're not gonna be a woman in that moment. You have to pee bad. Yeah, but just because you have to pee bad doesn't mean you're not going to be a woman in that moment.

We're not going to keep arguing. We're radicalizing. But the whole trans community doesn't even agree with itself. Because Flame Monroe is a trans woman, but doesn't consider herself a woman. She doesn't identify as a woman. She says, I'm a trans woman. No, no, no. She says, I would never say i'm a woman she says it's offensive to women yeah she says i'm a trans woman oh yeah yeah so it's like even that it's like they're fighting within their own community in terms of every community black people gays like asians like every community is fighting amongst themselves like we can't look at them as a monolith. This is what we all go through.

Yeah, they're figuring shit out. America was like, everyone's equal. Almost. Nah, still trying to figure it out. They need a trans civil war. It's the first one the women are going to win. Yo,

trans civil war? Gotta make it happen. Yeah, so it is what it is, man. I think gays and lesbians still trying to figure that shit out well that's the craziest thing is you have this whole community the lgbtq plus community and like i just know a bunch of gay people like yeah i don't fuck with the trans shit yeah like really i just assumed you guys were all on the same page you're like nah yeah yeah because they never had anything more than them and then trans are gonna get some shit more than them yeah and they're gonna go through the same thing yeah that's what i was kind of saying earlier like it just gets it just gets more and more extreme you know what i mean like you've heard about those like a body uh dysmorphia

people who feel like they shouldn't have their leg so they get their leg amputated yeah and it's illegal in some places but like i. I've never heard that. I mean, should it be? But I was actually thinking about this exact thing. Your body. Yeah. No, you're just making everybody's life harder.

Everybody. Wow. Why? You're not making anyone's life but yourself harder. If you feel like your finger's not yours and you get it removed, why shouldn't you?

First of all, you get the ill-ass parking spot. That's a good point. If you do it just for a party spot, that's fucked up. There's a person that was born with no legs that would love that parking spot,

probably. Yeah. Second of all, we got to wheel your that would love that parking spot, probably. Yeah. Second of all, we got to wheel your dumb ass around everywhere. No, you wheel yourself. Oh, you ain't ever helped a person in a wheelchair? No. Let's go finger. Just finger off.

Finger off. All right. It's got to be a line, though. You know what I mean? You can't do whole appendages. You want to lose a toe? You got that. Well, that's the thing.

I was actually thinking about this. We think, oh, if you get a body part removed, you're fucking crazy. You're insane. But women get breast reductions all the time all the time and we go yeah they get the fucking uterus scooped out Angelina Jolie got no pussy hollow

Angelina Jolie hollow because she was worried about getting pussy cancer no she got a breast chopped off she got breasts and her pussy she got her pussy vacuumed. Literally.

Took the whole shit out because she was worried about getting ovarian cancer. So she's trans. No tits, no pussy. She's a dude. That's a great point that he's making right now. Isn't pussy too? What? I don't think it's pussy too, but if it is pussy, she's a dude.

Look it up. She got ovarian. She was worried about getting ovarian cancer. She probably has some cysts. You put your ear up to her pelvis, you just hear the ocean? Yep, you can hear it. And if you put your nose up, you can smell it probably.

So yeah, I just think, look, we're doing it already. We have those weirdos that get the fucking gauges in their ears and shit. You know, some of them get their ears snipped so they look like a tiger.

They get their noses. You get part of your nose removed. Yeah. To look better. I hate them too. You know what's weird? You get part of your nose removed. Yeah. To look better. I hate them too. You know what's weird? You add something to your body and it's way more understandable.

Like taking away is what's weird. Like if you're a girl and you have fucking crippling back pain and you reduce the size of your tits, we're like, yo, what is wrong? Like that's weird. It's something like, get out of here.

Like what's happening, right? But if you get huge breast implants that make your back hurt, people are like, there we go. Yeah, that's cool. There we go. It's like surgery to make your life easier makes sense surgery to make your life harder doesn't yeah and that's the equation we're trying to solve turning yourself into a trans woman or trans male we look at and we're like yo your life is about to be tough yeah you

were just a cis regular person now all of a sudden you're a disenfranchised minority you asked for it right even though you did it but like we're looking like why would you do this bro just like identify as a chick but just dress normal so that your day is okay right even though i understand it's hard for them to do that as the outward perception of ease of course because you look at a girl with big tits you go oh man your life must be so easy but the back is killing her back's killing her hates her's killing her. Hates her life. So walk that shit off, bro. Yeah, maybe that's one way of doing it.

But what about rods in your back? Why can't you just if you're going to get something added, get like rods in your back. You'll last posture your whole life. Yeah, have great posture, make your back strong and then your titties can hang freely. Oh, but maybe you can't bend over with the rods in your back. Unimportant.

You have big ass titties. Please believe. that's good oh but maybe you can't bend over with the rods in your back unimportant yeah it is weird it is weird what we accept what we don't accept