Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts: Chappelle’s New Netflix Special

Episode Date: October 8, 2021

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What up people, Shultz here and you guys are about to listen to a clip from our weekly Patreon episode. If you want to sign up to our Patreon, support the flagrancy, support what we are doing, completely uncensored, flagrant content, you go to patreon.com slash flagrant2. With no more interruptions, here is the exclusive clip. So are we going to talk about chapelle special or what we were talking about this before and it is a tricky one and i know i'm going to seem like a complete hypocrite because i guess i've been quite critical of past ones but i i for whatever reason maybe i'm growing i'm becoming a better person or something like that but i do feel feel difficulty in being critical of a stand-up's work when they're doing stand-up.

Yeah. If you're a stand-up that is moonlighting as a late-night TV host and you're putting out corny shit, it's like, okay, that's not it. But if it is your art and that is your thing, I understand the vulnerability of putting something out and having the world be able to criticize it. That is a vulnerable thing. I understand the vulnerability of putting something out and having the world be able to criticize it. That is a vulnerable thing. I'm sure musicians feel this way when they put it out. I'm not a fucking musician,

so I don't really care as much about the thing, but I do care a lot about stand-up. So it's tricky to come out here and be like, oh, let's criticize the greatest working comedian. here and be like oh let's criticize yeah you know the greatest working comedian right um so i want to start out with like some praise yeah for it and i think he is and i've said this on the podcast before the greatest storyteller that i've ever seen in my entire life yeah it's fucking unbelievable the story at the end if you're watching the special and then you maybe you don't like it or something like that and you halfway through you turn off you're missing the special and then maybe you don't like it or something like that and you're halfway through, you turn off, you're missing out on the greatest part of the special in my opinion, which is the final story that he tells.

Unbelievable. It's probably 10 minutes, maybe even more. And it is masterful. Like playing with energy, like using comedy as a tool to drive the story. It's really genius. It's almost like stand-up is just this tool he has in the shed, and he's choosing to use it during the storytelling right when he needs to to keep pushing the story on. I always think about, remember those crews in USA, the race car game?

You've got to pass the checkpoint to get a little more time? Right. Using the jokes as that pass the checkpoint so you can drive the story that we're really curious to hear like what happens and it's a fucking beautiful story

and not only is it beautiful it's like strategic and like pointed and really executes the exact thing that he's trying to say throughout the special

it was masterful right I mean I thought it was absolutely brilliant what did you guys think about at least that section that was incredible I do wish he ended it right, like 90 seconds earlier, the special.

If he ended it 90 seconds earlier, I thought it would have been fucking perfect. On the line that says. Yes. Yeah. I mean, we're going to give it up. We're going to assume everybody's seen it by now. And if you haven't seen it, it's okay. You'll still enjoy.

But on the line that's like, and I want to have that conversation with him. I knew your father and he was a great woman. Yes. I mean, that is. That's the perfect ending. Drop the it would have been the fucking like his emmett till ending in equanimity when he told the emmett till story was incredible yeah yeah this would have been even better yeah i wish he ended it right there it's still so good but i wish he ended it right there yeah and i guess maybe he had another point that he wants to drive home yes like yeah i'm doing this for my people or something like that i don't you know but like as a pure storytelling finale that is the final point

fucking perfect maybe he felt he had to round out the whole piece yeah add more but like for me yeah that's the metaphor for the whole piece yes i could love you even though maybe you and i disagree on some shit and i'm still gonna say some jokes and they're still gonna be funny yes even though i really fucks with you yes that'd be hilarious if he did not set up that fun for the kid like that i would respect it more this kid is just tweeting like where's his his phone? I'm 21, Jay. Where you at? This is good. Okay.

Your guys' thoughts on the final story. Just off that one, I agree with you. I wish he did my trap right there, but I understand why he included that last line. What do you think? I just kind of feel, in his head, he is really taking some shots at us. Like, he feels like he's taking some, I think, I'm assuming, I think he's taking, like, oh, I'm

taking some career-ending possible shots. Like, I'm really going at the trans. I'm really going at Jews. He's like, hey, I need to let you people know, like, I gotta explain it to you, the reason why it is. And I think he needed that just so, like, I got to explain it to you, the reason why it is. Ah.

And I think he needed that just so it's like, yo, you guys attacked me, this is the reason. It's protection. Yes. If you didn't get it

throughout the special, it's like, this is it. I think if you couldn't see the humanity of Dave in that story in and of itself, you're the problem.

Yes, people are dominating. Sure, there's some. I also, he gave you two endings. Yes. He gave you the smart, artistic ending there's some he gave you two endings he gave you the smart artistic ending and then he gave you

the dumb twitter ending yeah like if you didn't get that I'm gonna make this very easy for you to get the fun thing about art is you leave it open to interpretation and that's the scary thing the issue with cancellation is that it's open to interpretation what do you really mean by it?

Do we let him live or do we fucking kill him? Okay, what were your thoughts on just the story? I didn't see the whole thing, but I saw the story live when we were in Austin. Yes.

So you can speak on that. And it was cool. I really enjoyed it. I actually was misdirected by the ending. I didn't actually see how it was going to go. And it seemed sort of like

a return to form for him based off of his previous specials like and i guess like his set in general that night and it was a lot more polished than the night that we had seen we had seen what i was saying so i was like i'm happy to see that he's taking that turn and i'm pretty sure this is his last special with netflix right uh for a while or like his last of like the deal yeah i thought he only had to do like three for the deal i'm sure he got more and then he re-upped again maybe i'm sure but yeah i think he can keep re-upping whenever he wants it's not like um no he said no he said for a while he said that and then he also said uh i'm not talking about you guys anymore yeah i'm trans community i'm never talking about

this community and like And that was after, which I wish he also just leave it. Like you just left it so beautifully. But my one pushback on the kind of covering his own ass,

you can't cancel Dave Chappelle. He doesn't want to be in your movies. His stand-up will always be worth $40 million a pop. He's worth nine figures. He has Chappelle's show

that he owns now and he can get the fucking whatever residuals,. He's worth nine figures. He has Chappelle's show that he owns now, and he can get the fucking whatever residuals or whatever it's called forever. So you can't cancel Dave Chappelle. He doesn't need your new opportunities. But he wants to drink in bars in Michigan without being bothered.

So he needs that. He has a problem drinking in bars in general, I think. So I think one of his friends needs to talk to him. I'm just saying every person can be canceled depending on how you look at cancellation. Like, say, if he actually does want to put out a special event, say, if he gets so much pushback from the Jewish community and the trans community, trans community, LGBT, whatever. Yeah, I think it's OK. trans community trans LGBT whatever yeah I think it's okay so Akash is speaking more towards cancellation in terms of opportunity financial industry and you and him probably have different perspectives you that's enough money but you can't decide how much uh is enough money to someone else

he may believe that he wants to make 500 million dollars and donate 200 fuck a million to uh the dead poet society for whatever it is but just just to just to finish the point so and he's allowed to have that feeling as well even though that's enough money for you and maybe when you get there you'll decide i'd like some more money too and i want to continue this i think it's not about i think it's not about money. I think it's about lifestyle. And I think he is a comedian. He cares about what people think of him. Yes. It is very important.

We all do, yeah. As we all do, right? If we knew who we were and we felt validated every single day, we wouldn't go up in front of strangers and try to tell them to validate us through laughter, right? try to tell them to validate us through laughter right like so i think it is painful i'd imagine is painful for someone who cares about what people think of him to think of him as something that he does not identify as so if he's walking around all day going these people think i hate gays they think i'm homophobic they think i'm transphobic that's probably way more painful than not being able to be in the next paramount movie right okay so that i think is the thing that's the impetus for the other.

Yeah. But you're 100% right in terms of like the industry can't withhold anything from him. Him specifically. Specifically. And I didn't even just mean financially. I meant opportunity wise. Like he's not a hundred millionaire off of movies or TV shows that you wrote for him. Right.

He wrote one himself and then he puts out his own standup and like opportunity wise he's, I think. But yeah. But that makes a lot of sense. The emotional cost. And he's a sensitive, and I don't mean that in a negative way. He's a dude that's like empathetic and like a human. Thoughtful.

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And then the people that can do something for us, we're like, oh, we got to be polite. Everybody got to get these jokes, bro. Yeah, I hate saying you can't punch down but i also hate not punching up yeah like if you said we we're like yo fuck that punching down you can't punch down shit but then if you're scared to punch up you ain't shit either it was funny that the last joke about the punch down i think i was talking to mark about this this was like maybe last week i think i was talking to you about this but i was like with the punching down thing and i was like uh was it you maybe somebody else but like, I had thought about the same thing.

Like, I don't like the concept of punching down because you make me, you're basically like, I think less of everyone. Yeah. Like, you can't remember when we were dealing with

like some notes process and they're like, we said that here. I think we've had this exact conversation. Yeah, okay, we have said it here. Yeah, I always hate that

because it's like, no, you're placing them beneath you. I don't see it that way. I see me punching somebody that's equal to me. You decide they them beneath you i don't see it that way i see me punching somebody that's equal to me you decide they're beneath you that reflects your own bias and it also creates a social hierarchy of social oppression yeah who's below what but look they're gonna take it on the chin i'm gonna fucking take them everybody's gonna take it on the chin i think once you start to realize that and feel that there's like a safety and security built out there

right and maybe that's the shitty thing about like being able to yank a joke out of a special. You're just like, oh, you see this joke he made about Asians? It's like, were you listening to the joke he made about the Puerto Ricans five minutes before and the joke he made about the Jews seven minutes after? Once you understand the context not of the joke itself, the joke itself could be hateful. But the context of the whole piece yeah you're like oh okay i get what we're doing here yeah and that's why roasts nobody cares about right because you walk into the roast going we're gonna be hurtful for fun yeah yeah the comedy special

you walk in going this is just gonna be a great old time we're gonna laugh yeah so maybe we should like start the like a disclaimer or like call the special roast for fun or like this fucking when you walk in this is the deal yeah everybody gets these jokes i do that at the top of every show i try to like i'll say like we all laugh at fucked up jokes like we need this like we're all gonna laugh at fucked up things that's the best i think that's part of the reason why Chappelle had the caveat in this discussion. Like, hey, I'm just trying to make you guys laugh.

I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. I am trying to make a point in terms of like a political statement. Yeah. I'm not trying to do it at the expense of other people. So if you feel that I am, you've misinterpreted me.

And he probably feels that he could have done a better job than tell me or whatever it is. But I think he needed to add that caveat more for himself. Right. So people know he's not white. He had another caveat that I typically think is bullshit, but I believe this one where he was like,

if you listen to everything I've said on every special about trans people, I do not, I'm not complaining about trans people or something he said. I'm complaining about white people. And if you think about all this shit he's saying, it's like, Oh,

I see what he means with like the entitlement, the white entitlement that comes from the white trans people who tend to be complaining, who tend to get heard the most, et cetera. It's like, Oh, I actually believe that when he says this is about white people and not

trans people. And I think that he's using trans people as an example or gay people as an example of what black people can't do. Yes. Right. So he's just juxtaposing the black experience and this other oppressed groups experience and going, yo, why can't we get motherfuckers out of here like this? And he said that I'm not transphobic. I'm jealous.

Yeah. How effective your movement has been and how we're stuck here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How'd you guys already get ahead of us? Now, do you believe that that is the sentiment or do you think that that is convenient logic to... Probably a little bit of both. Maybe.

It probably starts off a certain way and then as you get hatred, as a human being would, as people start telling you you're a piece of shit, you're like, you know what? Fuck them. And then you also start using their rules against them. Yeah.

It's like they're like... That's the g like he's a master and i mean this in the best possible way like manipulator and as a comedian you do have to manipulate the emotions of an audience right even to induce laughter but like that was masterful it's like oh you set the rules as don't punch down i'm gonna convince you we're below y'all you better not bully me yeah you see what you did to your own. You got your own offing themselves from bullying. Right. The feminist move.

He's like, hey, this is a feminist. Hey, you just want women to be equal. And then you wouldn't allow the black feminist to speak at whatever movement or whatever. Yeah. So it's like, even for a movement that's about women, you're still putting black women below. And I think he added that point so he can make his final point of view. Right. He's like, even for a movement that's about women, you're still putting black women below. And I think he added that point so he can make his final point of view. Right, right, right.

It was cool, man. Look, you know that there's always going to be a reaction to a Chappelle special, which is, well, I didn't laugh as much as I thought I would laugh, or something like that. That seems to be a lot of the reaction. I think, Al, you brought up a really good point before, which is basically you're just comparing it to other Chappelle specials. Yeah. And you brought up the Drake analogy. Say that. I thought this was really poignant.

So, let's serve our love of boy. People are saying this is not one of Drake's best albums. Yeah, because they're there to Drake's other album It's like your best work is gonna come in the beginning It's like yeah lifetime of thoughts that you want to get out Yeah, and now you're having two years to put together special but at the same time it's quality of work still so Beyond everyone else. Yeah And like would it be would drake's album be the best da baby album ever yes yeah you know i'm saying like if you were if the baby put out drake's shit right here you'd be like oh my god this is the most amazing one so

he is competing with himself in that regard so that even more so with comedy. Who has it for 20 years? Chris Rock's last special. What was his worst special? Tambourine? Had some beautiful moments. Slow as fuck the first half hour. Who is still funny? Bill Burr is the one guy I can think of

who's been doing it 20 years, and he's still so strong. But even then, I think it's a fame thing where you're so famous, you're just performing for your fucking sycophants or whatever your fanatics and they're gonna laugh at everything so you don't necessarily get to cone and craft and whatever and it's this superstar level where it's like that's not sustainable for most comics

yeah you always hit a plateau and he doesn't seem like i'm used to me maybe i can't tell but it doesn't seem like he's performing for his fans. Like he, it seems like he's, Hey, I'm going up there for myself. And this is the shit I want to get off. Like this, this is shit that's bothering me. So I'm going to talk about it.

Even if you dislike the fact that I'm talking about trans in the last three specials, it's like, this shit still bothers me. So I'm talking about, yeah, I respect that. That's more artistic to me than like,

Oh, let me just focus on the big political things that are going on at the moment yeah like talk about the shit you care about yeah yeah that's the weird thing with chapelle as far as like performing for his fans i feel like if you're a comedy fan you're probably a chapelle fan you know what i mean yeah like it's not really like music where you're like oh i don't listen to that i only like this i only like that like yeah most people that are fans of like comedy nerds they're like oh yeah i'll go watch chapelle yeah you know what i mean like he's legendary and it was good to see him doing comedy again yeah yeah unforgiven and all that i was like jokes yeah yep first half

first half was jokes i do think it's probably harder though for him to get the same type of like laughs per minute into jokes that he might have had previously in his career simply because he's getting a much bigger reaction off of less funny jokes by proxy of his fame like that that's just like so it's not even his fault it's like where maybe he was younger he would it would be like tag tag tag yeah another misdirect another misdirect keep building keep building and like now he's getting huge explosion off of premise yeah you know punchline and i think that that is the nature of fame and maybe that's why he's gone and like put time into developing these stories right because that's something that doesn't change no matter who's watching right

right it's like i'm gonna build out this other thing i already getting this huge pop off of this one idea that maybe 10 years ago i'd have to drive a bunch more punch lines in and really do it but i can execute the exact point i want and get the intended reaction way quicker let me develop these stories and make these stories have these crazy arcs and like beautiful thing that's something i can actually do despite how much the fans love me appreciate me right etc and in my opinion i feel like that's a bigger flex because i see it with you guys it's like uh you're able to stretch out a story and fit in jokes whenever you feel like you fit in little uh pops yeah when you feel and you can go like a cheap pop or it's like oh no i give you a poignant pop yeah and so when you get when you feel, and you can go like a cheap pop, or it's like, oh no, I give you a poignant pop. And so when you get, when you're operating at that level,

I think it's harder for him to say, hey, how long can I get this story and still keep you engaged? Like, that's the flex for him, because if he wants to make you laugh, he can make you laugh. Yeah, yeah. If you wanted to just make people laugh on cheap shit, just make them rolling laugh, then you can

do cheap jokes throughout the whole set. Right. But you pride yourself and be like, no, no, no, I want to send a message between these jokes. And that, to me, is like... It's harder. Yeah. Yeah.

So when you're operating at that level, it's like, I'm not going to knock what he's doing because I think he's doing it for himself. So what do you say to the person that's not familiar with Chappelle's early work, but sees Chappelle and assumes that this is the greatest comic alive because that's what they're hearing all the time right but they just enter this stage of his career is it similar to what i probably went through with carlin where like i was told he's the greatest and then i

watched the later work and i'm like man this guy's really smart and he's saying like really thoughtful fucking things but like I'm not dying laughing but I recognize he's a really smart guy and I recognize everything. Great writer. The writing is great the observations are really brilliant but like I'm not dying to laugh the same way

I'm dying from watching David Tell or watching Eddie Murphy Chris Rock whoever. You know what I'm saying? What do you say to somebody? Because it's hard for me because I'm as a comic. Like, it's hard for me to remove it. But what do you say to that person? Like, if my girl watches or something like that.

I feel like with most art, like music or even food, it's like you have to, you get in on the easy stuff and then once you realize that that stuff is easy you appreciate the hard stuff more so it's like for somebody who just gets into chicago now i'm gonna tell them no go back go back start from the beginning you can't appreciate now unless you go back the other tricky thing about everything, art, sports, whatever, it always moves forward. Very few things age well. If you go watch Wilt Chamberlain highlights right now, you'd be like, this is the fucking guy? This is the guy we're talking about. Shaq would body this motherfucker anywhere.

That's just the nature of how these guys push everything forward. Jay-Z said it to Lil Wayne and the Carter. He said, go farther, go further, go harder. Is that not where we came? If not, then why bother? That's it. Chappelle pushed the envelope so the next great guy can push it further. And Chappelle got there because Rock and Pryor and whoever else,

they all pushed it further. You watch Pryor now, it's funny. It's not changing the world, but you don't realize comedy wasn't like that until him. But what are you saying to the fan that's catching the end of the journey, not the beginning? And their reaction to the end is based on a wealth of knowledge or lack thereof of Chappelle, right? Like, you've only seen maybe two specials and you're like, everybody keep telling me this is the funniest guy that's alive, but I'm not laughing as much as... I would just tell them to start from the beginning

and know that they might not get it because it just always evolves. In the same way, your dad tells you Bill Russell is the greatest basketball player of all time because he changed the way defense was played.

Yeah, yeah. And if you watch Bill Russell, you'd be like, that's just the way the world moves. Right. I just gotta accept that some people aren't ready. Like, I'm not, my eyes aren't as developed watching comedy as your guys yeah yeah so it's like maybe cheaper jokes might be funnier to me than they are to you yeah you're like ah that was so easy

i don't think that chapelle's early stuff was cheap no i'm saying yeah the way he did comedy was like oh i know the best way to get a laugh. And it's like, even though I'm still making smart observations, like the laughs are quicker. So it's like, you don't, he didn't take a long story to make you laugh. What he does with the trans story, level of difficulty, even though I fucking love Killing Them Softly, maybe my favorite special, the level of difficulty in the trans story is higher than anything in Killing Them Softly. Yeah, favorite special. The level of difficulty in the trans story is higher than anything in Killing Them Softly. Yeah, but to me, the trans story wasn't great

because it was funny. It was just a beautiful story. Yeah. Imagine if you didn't laugh at all. You would have been like, this is not gonna happen. He is such an amazing storyteller. I mean this sincerely.

And I knew going into it, I've said this, as long as you've known me, I've said he is the greatest public speaker alive. Okay, but the last time he put out a public announcement, you're like, this is a comment. Shitty story.

Shitty story. Nah, story was good. Three Card Monty was a good story. No, he's talking about George Floyd. Yeah, yeah. Should he just throw out on YouTube or whatever? Yeah, he did the Three Card Monty thing after, but yeah, I see. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about the George Floyd thingorge floyd thing no i'm just saying like if there's no jokes in between i can see you not because you know him as a stand-up like hey

where are the jokes i could i would be critical if it was called a stand-up piece i guess but like in terms of actual just stories that like i looked at that story like i was watching the moth i don't know if you guys remember that but i i was watching The Moth and I was like, oh, this is the greatest piece that's ever been said on The Moth. I could watch that no matter what. It was so brilliant. I remove it from any category. I just go,

here is content to watch. It could be a TED Talk. Fucking amazing. It doesn't matter what it was. It was just so great. I guess I'm just trying to understand the new eyes. If someone it doesn't matter what it was. It was just so great. I guess I'm just trying to understand, like, the new eyes. Like, if someone doesn't really know Chappelle that much, like, and then they start watching a special and they don't laugh as much, what do I say to them? Do I go, I don't know, what do you think, Mark? I mean, comedy is unique because you're not only consuming the art in, like, its fundamental level.

You're consuming the person as well. Whereas, like, with music, you're consuming the person as well whereas like with music you're kind of just you can can just consume like oh this is a song i heard but like with comedy it's so intrinsic to the person that's saying it that it kind of requires having context of that person insofar as they require that you know them and chapelle is so intimate when he speaks it's like especially at this stage in his career it's like yeah you are kind of required to know him as a person to really truly appreciate what he's doing at this point. His early stuff, you didn't need to know him, and he knew that because he was unknown.

So are they wrong to say that it isn't as joke-dense or funny as other comedians that they're familiar with? I don't think it's wrong. Like, if my girl says that to me,. I don't think it's wrong. Like if, if my girl says that to me, I can't go, you're wrong. Not in an objective sense, but if you judge him and say he's not as good as a comic holistically than other comics,

I think it's just a hasty judgment that I think, I think that the knee jerk reaction is often like, it was really, it was like really interesting. I just didn't laugh that much with this stuff. And, and, and what I try to tell people, I'm like, I don't even, I did this with, I think Patrice put out Mr. P and it was an audio

album and I was sitting in a car with a friend and he was watching it or he was listening to it. We're just listening together. And he like really wasn't laughing. And then I was, and I told him before, I was like, this is the greatest ever. Yeah. And I realized I might have not even laughed that much, but I was just so in love. Oh, I can't go multiple times. Sure. Yeah. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. I was just so in love with the guy and his viewpoints and his thought process and how

he creates a joke and where he creates Mr. X. Because you know him. Because I know him. And this new guy is like, yeah, he had some really good ideas and there were some funny moments. I laughed. But it was that moment I was like, yeah, he had some really good ideas and there were some funny moments. I laughed. But it was that moment I was like, oh, shit, have I been mesmerized? Does somebody have to like – have I been hypnotized?

Does somebody have to shake me out of it? No. It's not hypnosis. It's just – What? It's a little bit. It's a little bit of that. But at the same time, it is hard though because like Drake's early albums, we love them because he just put out bangers.

He's like, how can I put a bunch of bangers on one album? Now he's focused on like, yo, I'm going to tell you about just a story about some girl I used to fuck and how she wanted money and shit like that. He's doing it more for him. Here it is. No, no. You just hit it. You just hit it. It is this.

Remember when nobody knew you and you had to go on stage? You had to prove yourself every time. You had to prove yourself every time. So, of course, in that stage of your career, the jokes are going to be crafted in a way that if someone is experiencing you for the first time, they're going to enjoy it the most. Exactly. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're the funniest, but the jokes are going to speak to things greater than just maybe your experience. And they're complete. Exactly, right? And yeah, you're going to be

I got to prove it every 10 seconds, otherwise they might not realize I'm funny. I got to, every time, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. It's specifically crafted to the person who doesn't know you. Yeah. As you develop, the specials are specifically crafted to the people that do, because oftentimes that is more interesting to the people that really love you.

They want to know about your experience, what the fuck you've been through. Like when Richard Pryor lit himself on fire, we're like, fam, tell us why you were on fire. And you've also evolved as a person and you're aware of your prior body of work. And comedians' careers are holistic in that way like game of thrones like someone watches season five and they're like i didn't like it it's like yeah you joined at the middle of the show