Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts: Johnson & Johnson vaccine paused

Episode Date: April 16, 2021

Schulz Reacts: Johnson & Johnson vaccine paused by

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Finally. The vaccine was working too well. And Mark was like, fuck, bro. I knew Johnson & Johnson wasn't ready. Yeah, that one shot. They got a real history, too, of being shady and their baby powder's killing people like this is a fucked company yeah they don't really do their due diligence they don't do shit my girl did like an internship there in college or something like and they were like they were they weren't even allowed to manufacture product or something something like

they had or did she not she was a co like a co-op in her business program where you would work but not like in the factory like on the other side yeah yeah but they weren't even allowed to manufacture products for like six months because they had so many violations of some kind and then they had this big celebration when they could finally start like reopening or something like that something to that effect and she's just told me for years she's like this company fucking sucks don't trust them for 3.9 billion in talc settlements yeah for like their baby powder shit well your baby powder is killing people or giving people cancer that sounds like such a fucking like lizard people thing like no baby

powder not giving people fucking cancer that shit was giving people cancer that's the thing with these lawsuits though is there's like a drop in the bucket like because they've made 10 billion on it yes all right i think if they had any kind of evidence that they this person was wrong their lawyers would just win out four billions a lot yeah and also they're not paying that they have insurance providers that pay all those yeah premiums or they're paying premiums so they don't have to pay when those lawsuits happen i i there was a really funny uh chris scopo joe chris scopo is a buddy of ours yeah yeah he has uh says i don't want to butcher it but I posted my story the other day, but something like, are you really going

to trust a vaccine from the guy who owns the Jets? That's so good. Like, there were two in 14 last year. True. A couple other tags,

it was really funny. But yeah, this is a, it's a really interesting thing because this is what the vaccine conspiracy theorists want, right? They want justification

for not wanting to take it. Right. So where do we go from here like i thought that all the vaccines were the same why would they not be the same well this one is one shot so it's not the mrna thing that like alex jones was saying the mrna that's what fucks up your dna i think this is a different one it's only one shot it doesn't have to be cooled in these crazy storing these crazy cold temperatures i'm pretty sure like the one shot is not as high maintenance essentially as the two shot gotcha but actually a part of the reason we got vaccinated early is my girl was like yo johnson and johnson i'm not trusting that shit let's get it before that's even an option and i was just like fine

i guess i don't know how shitty i kind of believe you johnson and johnson is shitty but like it clearly sucks dude that from the beginning it was like 64% effective. And we were all just like, what? We're putting this out here in the wild for people? 50-50. Yeah. Coin flip. That's crazy.

And everybody's like, yeah, it's still more effective than the flu shot. This ain't the flu. The flu is not a pandemic shutting down the country, the world. This is a different thing. I don't want your flu shot. Suck my dick. Get that out of here. AstraZeneca, where you at?

Fucking bums. What you been doing this whole time? So just to clarify, the vaccines that we have now are Moderna. And Pfizer. Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson. Right. AstraZeneca is? It's another pharmaceutical company that was developing, I believe, a one shot.

And then somehow it just never passed the... So that one never came out. Yeah. Okay. Or it's going to be in Europe, right? Maybe. Maybe. Okay.

So, Mark, what do you think the repercussions of this? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think the conspiracy people are going to go crazy. But it's also like a low number of people that have been confirmed. So it's still like a big deal to them. It's their lives. I don't know if any of them died. Out of 7 million. Yeah. I mean... Wait, they's their lives like i don't know if any of them died out of seven million yeah i mean when they died no i don't know if they did but i don't know what

their long-term like health repercussions are so i don't want to minimize clotting issues only 10 people have blah blah like it's 10 people's real lives but it is only 10 people in 7 million shots or whatever okay so those are the confirmed ones there might have been more yeah like in what other case are you giving so many people one thing at the same time so that you actually see data that's like oh shoot i understand the stakes for the vaccine are a little bit higher but like you know not everybody got their fashion merch you know so like a certain amount of a certain amount of shit gets lost in the mail you know what to your point and to what mark was saying if you get any medicine there's always that thing of side effects

may include and it's just horrendous shit and you're willing to do that for allegra you know what i mean i got allergies i'll put up with the potential side effects if you had a johnson and johnson vaccine commercial and they were like side effects could include blah blah blah in rare cases blood clots have formed you would still be like yeah sure i'll take the vaccine though you know what i mean so to y'all's point maybe it's not as big of a deal as we're making it out to be so it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting what the repercussions are and it's also i think it'll expose an interesting thing with like vaccine lawsuits so like as everyone because historically you couldn't sue for like vaccine side effects

so if you got a vaccine and got injured from it like you didn't really have a ton of like legal repercussions but as more and more people are getting vaccinated and if there's people that are getting side effects from it there actually might be and they're being required to vaccinate yeah exactly there might be legal and like uh like more legal ramifications so what is the legal recourse to a mandatory medical procedure right like for kids to go to school you have to have your vaccinations yes let's say one of these vaccinations does something to your child right you can't sue but your kid was forced to get the vaccine yeah it's kind of weird right yeah i'm trying to understand like i actually wonder if it'll benefit people because i think like

this is where people get all fucked up with the vaccine stuff. There are side effects to any medication. And even though the medication is good, the side effects could be bad. And some people are getting injured from vaccines. But because there's immunity from lawsuits for vaccines, people go, what's happening legally? Why is there protection against these companies? And there might be an actual reason to protect the companies. But then people are like, oh, no, there's no side effects.

Vaccines are perfectly safe. And it's like, why are you saying they're perfectly safe? Is there some side effects, blah, blah, blah. So I think actually having mandated vaccines for everyone could potentially change the legal future of it, which actually might make it more equitable and make people less conspiratorial. So the interesting thing about this is that like, and I'm not a very big fan of a litigious culture,

but a litigious culture does often lend itself to a safer product. Now, sometimes the product becomes so safe that you can't even put it out, right? Or there's so many fucking building laws and regulations, whatever, that you can't even really functionally live there. Like you're always kind of doing something illegal and it makes society hard,

but there is a protection from putting out some bullshit and just jabbing it into people's veins. If Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, these companies knew that they were going to get sued if this vaccine didn't work well, then they're going to be extra scrutinizing with the process of making the vaccine. But then the vaccine never comes out. Potentially they don't bring it out. Exactly. Or, now here's the other check to it.

The vaccine never comes out and now we're fucked fucked the other check is these are publicly traded companies oh yeah yeah so you might not get sued directly but the net worth of your company could drop so drastically yeah if people were dying from the vaccine that that check right there the free market is is in a way making you protect your brand and therefore making the best product. That would require that there's media attention to whatever the brand is. Which in this case there would be. Yeah, exactly.

I think especially with a vaccine that's this popular. Yeah, exactly. Which is why, which is to my point, I think that because it's so widespread now, there's going to be more focus and attention on it and it could actually change people's behavior towards vaccine vaccine and vaccine liability the thing with the coveted vaccine the government passed the prepped act which gives all these companies total immunity from getting sued for the public vaccine because they had to be rushed out because they'd probably go hey it's

not worth us not worth it for us to rush this out because if we could get sued, I mean, there are going to be issues with this thing. So they go, hey, we'll give you the protection because people need to get it. And if a higher percentage of people are fucked up by it, so be it because we'll benefit the greater society. If you compare it to the number of COVID deaths, it's like, oh, this is nothing. On top of that, the government's just going to say, yeah, we didn't mandate it. It's not mandated. It's not even FDA approved. They're doing this weird thing where they say it's not mandated, but then they're making it incredibly difficult for you to live a normal life without one.

You have a vaccine passport, but that's where we're going. And I'm a guy who doesn't mind the vaccine passport, but it is weird that you're saying it's not FDA approved, then making us get it. So your government won't back it, but also isn't forcing everybody gets it. It's an odd thing. Yeah, Yeah. It's one of those things where like, we're going to find out how much we value entertainment, travel and ease of life very soon. And I think people who are even, you know, skeptical of vaccines, like Mark, don't let me speak for you, but you might have a little higher skepticism of some vaccines than like the average person who doesn't think about it. Maybe. Yeah, I guess you could call skepticism.

I just view it as like just a natural approach to medicine, like medicine as side effects, all medicine does. And to approach any medication thinking like, oh, it's 100% safe. I just think it's like maybe not skepticism is the right word, but you're not as willing to just take a vaccine. Yeah. Right. Maybe skeptical is the right word. Yeah. I don't think whatever, however you want word but you're you're uh you're not as willing to just take a vaccine yeah right maybe skeptical is the right word yeah i don't think whatever however you want to classify it but like this is one of those situations where you're gonna have to decide if you want to travel to greece more or if you're more nervous about the vaccine yeah no i recognize i'll probably just have to get it like i don't care so much for me. And I think most people with vaccine stuff, they don't care so much for them.

It's more like their kids. Oh, no. Listen, I completely understand that. And the nice thing about having COVID is it doesn't really affect the kids at all. So in my opinion, I'd be like, don't even shoot up the kids. If you're under a certain age, you're going to be fine. I guess you can be a carrier and then go to school. Right now, I think there's not kids doing it.

It's not even available to kids. Apparently, kids are getting COVID now, but they're not getting the vaccine if you're under 18 right um but i've resolved i'm gonna probably have to get the vaccine i guess what i was trying to use it as an example for like someone who values the freedoms that you have in life more than you are upset about potentially having to take a vaccine like and i didn't want to take it i was like i have antibodies like alan and i were talking about this all the time we're like why do we need to we have the fucking antibodies but the second i find out oh if i want to go travel or if i want to go to a fucking event or if we want to shoot a special you know whatever these and the only people that

are allowed to go or only way we're gonna allow to go is if we're vaccinated then i'm just like it's just fucking easier to do cave son you cave, son. You caved. I caved, bro. What if in lieu of a vaccine certification. Luxury made me cave. It's not even luxury, though. That's like, I don't even believe that because it's also just like human beings want to be together again. So it's not even just,

oh, we're so spoiled, which we are. We have great lives in America. Okay. But it's not even just that. It's, dude, we have not been together. Human beings are tribal. We haven't been allowed to be tribal for over a year we just want to do that if it's a

free fucking everybody just get together and talk in union square it's pretty gay but we'd all be like i'll do it fine okay okay one one question about that all right guys we're gonna take a break from this exclusive patreon clip because i gotta tell you guys about lucy okay lucy is the nicotine company that's founded by caltech scientists and former smokers looking for a better and cleaner nicotine alternative finally tobacco alternatives that don't fucking suck okay it's researched and developed for three years to be made for the people not patients lucy has created a nicotine gum with four milligrams a nicotine gum with four milligrams of nicotine that comes in three flavors that are absolutely delicious. You got

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argument. I'm not trying to make that. Once we know about ourselves, how valuable socializing is and going to these events and doing these things, the let's say, let's just call them like the luxuries of life. Let's just call it. Once we know how valuable those things are to us, right? Isn't it easier to manipulate us based on those things? When I was in high school, I loved being on the basketball team. It was so much fun. So did all my boys. And anytime we got in trouble in school, the first thing our school did was take away our basketball. They go, oh, you're not allowed to play in that game. If you're in detention, you're not allowed to be on the team, blah, blah, blah. So if the government wants us to do anything yeah i'm not saying this is where

they're going with this but if they do all they have to do is limit our ability to enjoy these luxuries and we'll cave in a fucking heartbeat 100 it's kind of scary to know no yeah yeah they just game us against ourselves like no pass no play is what they call it in texas if you don't pass your all your classes you can't play sports you're on a high school team because they know these guys need this so this is how we incentivize them to do what we want them to do yeah now you're more likely to go to class now you're more likely to stay you know what i mean try to stay out of trouble we can we can easily manipulate humans into doing what we want them to do you just have to trust that your government has your best interest in mind it's's like, like whatever that thing may be.

Like some companies will do it with like, they do it like opt-in versus opt-out things for like, like retirement funds or like organ donation and stuff like that. Like certain countries

will have like mandatory opt-out or it'll be opt-out for organ donation. So automatically, you are an organ donor unless you say, unless you opt-out. I think you're,

I think that's what your license has, at least in New York. Oh, no. America's opt in. Oh, we're opt in. Yeah. And it changes the rates like 80-20 flip. Yeah. So it's crazy.

So if the government's like, yeah, you should have organ donation or you should have whatever, you just have to trust that the government has your best interest in mind. But yeah. What do you guys what do you guys feel about organ donation i'm a donor donor no why a little superstitious like they won't save you as much yeah isn't that weird yeah isn't that weird i guess the argument is that like if you are an organ donor and i don't think this is true but if you are an organ donor, and I don't think this is true, but if you are an organ donor, some people say that if you're on the border of life and death, and it looks like it's

not going to be life, then they'll be like, oh, at least we got these organs. But if you're not an organ donor, they'll do anything in their power to keep you alive. I think you're assuming they know the people that are getting the organs. Like the doctor has a patient who needs kidneys, and I know what's going on. No, not even. The list for organs is incredibly long so organs are needed yeah i know but they don't have like any attachment to those are nameless faceless people they know people need organs but they're not like they don't have like an emotional attachment they're looking at you

i'm willing to let this guy die to save someone i don't even actually know exists it's a hypothetical person that i'm sure exists but like if anything he's the doctor is more attached to you the patient he's trying to save right then that random person he doesn't even know that's a good point i never thought about like that but um i think the only thing with organ donation like again i don't really think doctors are making decisions in like operating rooms being like ah like do i save five people or save the one guy with an organ donation? I think also a lot of organ donations go unclaimed because of timing and shit.

So it's like, I don't really think it's as nefarious as that. I think there's sometimes a money play that in certain countries you can get money from organ donation and shit like that. So in that regard, there's some haziness, but in America I don't really think it makes that much of a difference. Does the hospital that has the organ get paid a fee because these hospitals are

businesses right for the surgery and like the transferring but the surgery might not be oh the surgery is done there to remove the organ remove it to put it back in to transport it to keep it like yeah the hospital is making money off the whole process hospital see yeah i don't fuck with it i mean there are policies and you probably know more about this al but there are policies of treatment that certain people receive based on the insurance they have right yeah so i know it sounds fucking crazy but if you have better insurance, you get a better treatment for the same injury? You get better care. You get more people focused on you. So like maybe a team of doctors.

Instead of nurse, blah, blah, blah. Chris Rock said when he got rich, whatever his dad got that that killed him if he was rich when his dad got sick his dad would still be alive to this day based on the treatment just he's like the level yeah he basically saying he's like rich people live lives that poor people like if they knew how good it was for us they would for sure like kill us all but that was his point it's like even health care if you're rich you just have access to everything so now i guess my question is uh sorry to cut you but my question is like is it possible that that is also baked in to the hospital's bottom line in other words if there is an organ donor and they're on their deathbed we don't need to waste money trying

to keep them alive when we could make all this fucking money harvesting those organs i think you still make money keeping them alive, though. Like everything. Like, Al, if you break your leg, you're going to go to the doctor. They're going to treat it. You're going to get billed out the ass. You're still going to go to the doctor. You're not going to be like, yeah, but just, you know,

I'm not trying to make you money. You probably have to be there for like a week. Yeah. Charging $20,000 a day. Every day you're there. They are making money every single thing. I think you make crazy money on organ donation because it disproportionately benefits the rich.

Yeah, like surgeries make the most money for hospitals. Like Steve Jobs needed all these organ transplants and shit, and so he flew to Tennessee to go get some transplant for his lung or whatever. You have to have access to a private jet, be able to be there in eight hours, that kind of shit. So it's disproportionately ultra wealthy. I know someone personally that's like having all these experimental treatments done just because he's ultra wealthy.

Now, wait, wait, what's that about? Just like a personal person in my life that I know that's like, and what, what's wrong with him? A heart condition.

And he's looking for a new heart. Yeah. So he basically has to sit on ice until somebody has his same blood type or all these other things. And like exorbitantly wealthy and has had like multiple situations and like things haven't worked out exactly. But just has enough money to keep on throwing at the issue. And so like things like organ donation affect and benefit wealthy people. I would say two things.

One, I think if more people donated, then that wouldn't be as disproportionate because there'd be more access right now it's an access issue oh who yeah yeah yeah uh i think he'd be comfortable with me saying it's brian's daughter when she passed his baby girl they donated her organs and they like kept in touch with the people who have like her heart and her kidneys and it's like this really cool bond of like and it's like kids that got it sometimes like some parents are like yo your daughter saved my kid's life and we make sure they know about your daughter every day and it's like kids that got it sometimes. Some parents are like, yo, your daughter saved my kid's life, and we make sure they know about your daughter every day. And it's a really beautiful way that they feel like I kept my daughter alive. They can listen to their daughter's heartbeat again.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen videos of that. Like a father will listen to his kid's heartbeat inside the person where the heart is now. There's also a great um yeah fuck there's a great video i think i shared it with you guys where like this guy is out to dinner he's an old man he's out to dinner with his family and he's in like baltimore or some shit like that and they go where you from and he goes oh i'm from uh ohio or something i'm from cleveland ohio whatever like that and then the table next to him goes oh we're from cleveland ohio and he goes he goes yeah you know my son's blah blah blah this

that the other i forget exactly what it was and he goes uh yeah your heart's inside me the guy just starts like breaking down he can't believe it yeah it was pretty powerful yeah but yeah that's also just like the profit structure where it's like and you can almost even rationalize it when it comes to like benefiting wealthy people. It's like this huge CEO of this massive company that is doing all this work for the world. Like Bezos is like improving our lives. If he needs a heart transplant,

should it go to him or should it go to like some worker in his factory? You know what I mean? In terms of like societal good. You could make the argument. Right. That's the utilitarian mindset. I could see how they justify it to themselves. And I could also see how like a hospital justifies it to themselves. Like when you're doing so much good, when you're helping so many people,

when you're saving so many lives, you're probably only chipping away slightly at all that like good equity that you've put into the world when you're going, eh, we have to prioritize this thing and we have to charge a little bit more for this. It's almost like, yeah, I'm sure we all fall into this trap. Like you feel like you do so much for your significant other or something like that, right? That like when you fuck up and stuff, you're like, yeah, but I do so much. Yeah, but I do all this shit. Yeah, I have to fight all the time. Right.

Yeah, yeah, but I do so much. So shut up. So deal with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is to that person they're like oh this is fucked up no to the poor person that doesn't get the fucking heart yeah they're like yeah i understand you saved these 30 people but i'd like to fucking live too yeah yeah dude maybe we gotta have somebody on to like really break down the whole

like break down how a hospital functions yeah i would love that because it is about that here's the kind of the, I guess, both sides of it is like if it was a socialized health care or whatever, there wouldn't be the profit structure, but they would still do organ donations. But then you would never question the mindset of, are they just doing this for profit or are they just doing this to save lives? Because the CEO salary is capped. The hospital can only make so much money. the ceo salary is capped the hospital can only make so much money yeah but then the argument you hear from big capitalists is yeah but health care in those countries isn't as good which goes to your point of yeah but since they're not motivated by profit they don't do quite as good of a job because their salary is where you just bounce and you just go yo america's not doing that shit i'm out i'm going to fucking mexico they got this doctor that'll do it and i can just pay him

and then you're fucking over mexicans that can't get the medical attention and shit like that you're always gonna find someone to take advantage of yeah it's the tragedy of the commons all right guys you just listened to a clip from our weekly patreon episode if you want to continue to listen to that episode subscribe join the asshole army patreon keep it tight and keep it flagrant with us you can do that at patreon.com slash flagrant to indulge.