Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts: Mainstream Media Comes for Joe Rogan AGAIN! | Flagrant 2 Patreon Clip

Episode Date: May 21, 2021

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What up people, Shultz here and you guys are about to listen to a clip from our weekly Patreon episode. If you want to sign up to our Patreon, support the flagrancy, support what we are doing, completely uncensored, flagrant content, you go to patreon.com slash flagrant2. With no more interruptions, here is the exclusive clip. They're coming after the goat once again. They're gonna stop they're really never gonna stop they're really never gonna stop so basically joe rogan is having a conversation about uh the limitations of uh what we can say now i think in like a corporate environment he was talking more so but like and he's saying basically it's going to get to the point where if you're a straight white male you just can't have an opinion you can't say anything and obviously he got crazy pushback because you know joe's a straight white male and he's been

able to make an incredible living saying pretty much whatever he wants i mean obviously he gets tons of like backlash and pushback but he's still able to do it and now he's part of a corporation and he's able to continue to do it even though he's part of a corporation. And there's things that he walks back. There's things that he apologized for, as you should if you say something that you didn't mean or something was misinterpreted or you get new information. I'm not angry at that at all. But I don't think Joe is speaking for him. Like Joe is a very unique situation. I don't know if ever in history there's been an independent guy that became the largest media personality in the world. I don't know if that's ever happened.

Usually those people are tied to some sort of corporation. They have some sort of mutual interest with super billionaires, etc. For whatever the fuck reason, Joe was able to ascend to that superstardom, right? There's a trust. People valued what he had to say. They valued the voices that he brought on the podcast. And they truly believed that he was the person that was going to help share truth and add a little bit more perspective to the world, right? He's not talking about him. I think he's talking about the young person that doesn't have that type of leverage. Yeah.

And how those people could get caught up in the game. And those people could feel like if they're in a corporate environment, they're at work, they just can't share their opinion about something because they might get fired. Yeah. And I don't think that that's untrue. It's interesting. like it's this seems like the more liberal response whereas like the conservative response was whenever like lebron james would come out and say like oh there's a wealth inequality in america or like black people have a heart in america and people go oh you make so many millions of dollars like that's you know that's so hypocritical but he's not talking about him he's talking about black people in america yeah i think he got hyperbolic and then people took that literally

when he was like it's gonna get to the point where and he did say i'm serious but i assume he was being hyperbolic like it's gonna get to the point where white dudes can't go outside we can't say anything because of our privilege yeah i don't think it's gonna get to that point but it is you guys aren't allowed to say much yeah and and the left will say you can say less because you're white which i don't that's not my philosophy i see us as equals and we can say whatever the fuck we want i'll give a little pushback on that you can say whatever you want yes you just have to accept what comes with that some people aren't willing to accept what comes with that and some people don't have the leverage to do that i mean like you can't sit on this podcast and say they're like white guys can't say whatever they want because you sit across from a white guy who's

straight and literally says whatever they want every single Tuesday and Thursday. Yeah, that's fair. I think the new, sometimes the consequences outpace what was said. Right. There's not, I'm not going back in every case of a white guy ever getting canceled, but there are literally people on the left who are like, no, you can't say as much. You're white. You can't punch down. Yeah. We're 100% same pitch. Yeah. That's a real thing. And I think when Joe was like, I'm serious, he's going to get to the point where you can't go outside. People were like, what are you talking about? I think he was being hyperbolic because I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I also don't think his general point of, yo, straight white dudes can't say as much as everybody else.

That's not false. The left will acknowledge that. You're not allowed to say as much because of your privilege. So a couple of things I think are going on here. And I think like one thing that people aren't considering is the value of clickability and how that influences news and how that influences a story. And once your name becomes synonymous with views, people are going to try to have a comment on whatever the fucking story it is okay so for example like joe rogan talking about straight white males is gold i would say bitcoin but now it's fucking worth nothing is literally gold right to left-wing uh writers left-wing blogs left-wing pundits commentators right because if they can criticize the biggest name in media

and attach it to a philosophy that all their people really care to hear opinions on, but justify their own opinion, which is, hey, white male, you should shut up, or white males have privilege, or white males, whatever, and you attach Joe Rogan to that story, to the moon. Hundreds of thousands of views, maybe millions of views. They're salivating once they get that story, right?

Just like I'm sure right-wing media uh places are salivating the second lebron says something right the second he speaks out about how people should be treated while it kind of ignores what's happening in china or is totally willing to capitulate to whatever china tells the nba they should do right so the clickability drives the story. It's not like truth drives the story. Clickability does. And right now, you know, Joe Rogan is such a fucking lightning rod that whatever he talks about that's gonna serve either side, they are gonna go for it. Because they're gonna make money on it.

It's profitable to talk about Joe. We're talking about it right now. Right? We're probably gonna release a clip of this. Right? People wanna hear about it. It's view worthy to so many fucking people so i think that there's this two things happening i think there's an illusion of care

right and an illusion of fear i don't think like the average white guy is like concerned like that they can't say anything i think the average white guy is like concerned like that they can't say anything i think the average white guy is like i think that that could happen i do think in like public settings maybe i won't be able to say some stuff i do feel like maybe i'd be fired or maybe i wouldn't be looked at as a job for uh looked at for a job first like you have a straight white guy is going like i might have something against me for getting a job at some corporation. Right. But I don't think they're actually walking around fearful. Do you think that? Maybe I'm detached. No, I don't think they're walking around fearful. I just think there's an idea that you can't say as much because

you can't punch down, which is to me, I maybe this is too broad, but like that general idea bothers me because if you say punching down automatically, you're putting yourself above that person. Right. The idea of punching down a hate. So we we're all equal so we can all punch in my mind i know white people have been given privilege throughout this country but i just think that that there's only there's a limit to that and i think that's what i think that's what joe is trying to say there's a limit to like how much that should restrict them within society in terms of what they can say is it weird that like punching down is funnier for me like it's just funnier it's like meaner you're like oh yeah maybe because it's more shocking

and like taboo and elicits more of an emotional response and if you can break that tension that builds higher tension so if you can break it with something funny it makes it that much funnier yeah like punching up it's kind of easier because you're supposed to laugh at it i hate it that's why i'll sit here and defend straight white dudes because right now y'all got it yeah i got it it's so easy everybody just claps and i fucking hate how easy that is so give me the hard thing yeah oh you're saying like if what's that let's make fun of that yeah yeah it just seems way more risky yeah you know especially in this environment like maybe there was a time yeah like if yeah dude I loved hating white guys my whole life. That's all I did is hate white guys. You remember when we met? Yeah.

I hated white guys. It was so fun. Yeah. That was so hack. Yeah. It's so hack if you hate white guys. Yeah. Move on. It's just the easiest thing to get a clap from the audience. Yeah. It is. But I mean, if the joke is good, write the joke. Like I'm not angry. If there's a good joke, great jokes are great jokes. Great jokes are great jokes. But it does feel like this term, you can't punch down. I mean, I don't know, man. I think punching down is the funniest fucking thing, dude.

Because it's the riskiest, like you said. Yeah, maybe I just like that. It's also subverting the expectation. But so much of comedy is subversion. And if you're believing that you can only go one way with something, once you bring up a topic, you kind of know the direction you're going to go yeah bring up like you know some disenfranchised minority group and you know that the confines are that we have to punch up then you know oh this isn't going to be a joke about them it's going to be a joke about the

power structure against them whereas there's no necessarily like infrastructure for what the punching up or punching down or punching across is like oh this could this could go anywhere. And then that raises the tension, thus making the joke funnier, I think. I think punching down is back, dude. I think punching down is back. The weird thing with punching down is that it doesn't contextualize power

across other countries, but it also doesn't acknowledge power in the way that they interlink with each other. Are you talking about intersectionality of punching? Kind of, yeah. Whoa. Break it down.

I don't know. I was thinking about this the other day where people say, oh, you can't joke. Basically, you create a hierarchy of where the punches are. Yes, yes. There's supremacy built in

into who you're allowed to make fun of and it's inverted that's what but that's what akash is saying it's just like it's white supremacist to not think you could make fun of minorities because you're basically going i'm better than all of you yeah i can't do good to make fun of you what have they been through so much they're not capable of handling this yeah it's like adding weight classes to races yeah the heavyweights we can only punch like a kid with the disability is allowed to make fun of a gay guy and a gay guy is allowed to make fun of a black guy right unless like the black guy has a lot of money and then that's punching up again and so like there's intersections where like right you can be disenfranchised but then have other things that enfranchise you yeah but then bring you out

of this hierarchical system of punching up or down. And there's no real outset for what the rules are. If you're a black billionaire, who can you make fun of? Yeah, I don't know. Like, does billionaire take you out of your position of oppressed

minority because you're black? Or do you get to maintain all the different people that you're allowed to make fun of because you're black even do you get to maintain all the different people that you're allowed to make fun of because you're you're black even though you're a billionaire i mean this is the conversation about like will smith's conversation about you know lebron james is like at a certain point in time you also have privilege right because you're so wealthy maybe not them because they came from different but their kids lebron james jr but even them that's privilege for sure well i mean now they're in a privileged position but like jaden smith was born

in a privilege right you were born to be a multi-millionaire celebrity family i don't care that's just a privilege you can find the race whatever you have it better than a white kid in a trailer park and if you disagree with that i don't know what to tell you right 100 um but i guess what mom's saying is like you can switch your privilege within your life right okay okay i see what you're saying but i completely agree with what you're saying right there which is like yeah you were born into this privilege and that's that privilege still exists regardless of what your race is right right and there's going to be situations that jayden is in that you know the average white kids like him are not going to be in but jayden might be

more privileged than that average poor white kid right but le But LeBron, who came from no privilege, and then has an incredible amount of privilege right now. I mean, if you call yourself king, life is pretty good. Yeah. You don't call yourself king because of how horrible your life is. Right. Right? So does he have to acknowledge his privilege?

Does he have to check his privilege before he gives opinions about the world? Yeah. Perhaps in that regard. But should anyone in America be allowed to make fun of anyone not in America or anyone in a developing country? Exactly. So if we're the heavyweights when it comes to countries, who can we make fun of?

Can we make fun of Sweden? Can we make fun of Norway? Or are we punching down? Those would probably be equal. But could we make fun of them? Why are they? Why? Why are they equal?

Because they're developed nations. Yeah. But who decides that? Can we make fun of Canada? They can't even get vaccines. Are we punching down? Yeah, that's the thing. And I think this is, can we make fun of Canada? They can't even get vaccines. Are we punching down? Yeah, that's the thing. And I think...

Can Canada make fun of... Sorry to interrupt, but can Canada make fun of us when it comes to healthcare shit prior to all this vaccine? We don't have healthcare. Are you punching down? That's right.

Are you teasing us? Yeah. I think anybody can talk about anyone as long as you use nuance and take a chance of trying to empathize with that group of people. I love that. That's the discerning factor. We can acknowledge white privilege exists, but that with that group of people. I love that.

That's the discerning factor. We can acknowledge white privilege exists, but that doesn't mean white people can't say anything. Yeah, so exactly. Just say it with nuance. So a lot of times, I think we try to create these blanket rules because it comforts us.

Don't punch down. There's just a blanket rule. And it's also easy and simple. It's easy, simple. If everybody abides by it, then my life will be more comfortable for example we have these like little uh what lanes on a highway we maybe don't need lanes on highway you ever drive in egypt whatever i don't know why you would but we i went to egypt there's no fucking lanes and if they are lanes like nobody really abides but there's not that many accidents at least what i saw it's no

different not crazier than miami where we right now. But the lanes just make everything comfortable for everybody. If I stay in this lane and everybody stays in their lane, then we'll be good and my life won't be hurt. The structure helps people. It makes people feel comfortable, right? So the don't punch down thing is a nice structure, right? It makes people feel comfortable.

My feelings won't get hurt because motherfuckers know not to punch down. And I won't hurt feelings because I know all I gotta do is punch up and everything's fine, everything's cool. But what I think that we've learned is that if you actually know something about a culture, right? I mean, it's been really helpful for me in my career is if you know something about a culture and the person that you're making fun of feels like you're not just doing a hack joke about them, but actually like you've taken a

second and kind of learn a little bit about them they're cool and comfortable with that and they almost appreciate it more yeah they're like you're not doing this surface level joke matter of fact you've gone beyond the surface you care to like learn a little something about me and i didn't expect that of you and it reveals intentionality like my intention is not to make you feel bad yeah like if a black guy makes a joke about black people they know the intention is not to disparage black people because you're a part of the group. But if a white guy makes a joke about black people, he's like, okay, which side are you on? Are you with us?

Are you against us? But if I show that I know something about your culture that maybe you didn't expect me to know, now you know my intentions are pretty good. Right. Yeah. For the most part. I'm sure we can find circumstances.

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a week into a fucking microphone, you're going to say some things poorly. And maybe that's something we empathize with more than most people because we talk for five hours a week and shit comes out poorly every single hour. And that's a great point. And that goes right back into what we're saying about the clickbait culture is that there are people waiting for him to say something poorly because they know how many fucking views it's going to get. They know how many clicks the article is going to get. They know that it's going to sell those fucking ads. So they're just waiting 15 hours a week. I'm going to listen to a whole shit.

You're going to say something that's going to make a good article. 100%. Boom. And to those people I say, if you talk for an hour a week, you would say shit every hour. They'd be like, what the fuck did I say? That came out wrong. We're all human beings. None of us are perfect.

And that's kind of to Joe's point again of we're painting ourselves into this culture where we all have to be perfect all the time. And none of us are. To err is human. To forgive is divine. Maybe try being divine sometimes. But that's the thing. That's where I think cancel culture will end. all have to be perfect all the time and none of us are to air is human to forgive is divine maybe try being divine sometimes but that's the thing that's why i think cancel culture will end like like to joe's point he says like it won't ever end and granted i didn't ever grow up in a time where there didn't exist yeah like i don't really have a metric like we were even talking about this

in the context of what he was talking about watching super bad and being like whoa like i can't believe these jokes flew even. Oh, yeah. Say that. 15 years ago. So, like, I just watched Superbad recently for the first time. And I was like, I can't believe this is like fine. So who directed Superbad? Judd Apatow? Was it Apatow?

Jonah Hill? No. It was Seth Rogen? I don't remember. I know Seth Rogen wrote it, right? Yeah. Jonah Hill was in it. Yeah.

But I don't know actually who directed it. 40-year-old version was judd apatow there's an entire scene with him and paul i think him and paul rudd just saying for four minutes seth rogan and paul rudd i think it is going you know you're gay and then they just make fun of each other with that for like four minutes in the movie which is hysterical it's a hysterical scene now you're they get canceled that whole movie's tanking because that one scene but it was just crazy to watch super bad with the context of like and again i thought it was funny but watching it and being like i can't believe that this was the number one movie yeah and people still today go oh that's the best you know teen movie of all time and and i think to akash's point

which is like these things can exist at this time and we can celebrate them and then people can evolve right yes i think the biggest issue we have is you know a guy like judd apatow who's who's been very critical of certain things being made fun of or certain viewpoints etc it's like you evolved you got to give these other people the exact same room to evolve as well yeah if bare minimum you gotta give them the room to evolve because it took you time that's bare minimum yeah right they might not but you gotta give them the room because you expect people to give you the room you're not canceling you yeah yeah yeah to me it's an empathy thing have a little bit i don't even mind if you criticize someone if you've done something bad you grow like if someone's like

in a gang they got out of the gang they grew and they go yo the gang shit is fucked up even though they made a ton of money while they were in the gang yeah it's not that they're criticizing it or trying to change it it's that they might not if they don't have empathy that's where it's fucked up yeah man what are you guys doing you guys are idiots for making these jokes you guys are the worst like you guys are canceled if it's coming from a place of empathy where they go look like i've been here like i remember when i was young and in comedy and i did some dumb shit you got to grow from it like that's a different thing than if it's coming from a place of empathy where they go, look, like I've been here, like I remember when I was young and in comedy and I did some dumb shit. You got to grow from it. Like that's a different thing than if it's just outright trying to cancel people doing the same mistakes you made.

And maybe that's Tamar's point of why cancel culture will end. And maybe it's a better way for Joe to say, when will it end? I don't know. I tend to think that it will once it becomes like endemic. When every single person on the Internet has a footprint that they're not happy about and they're not proud of then people will be much mutually assured destruction I think it will just be quicker to recognize their own frailty and they'll go oh like yeah like this guy's gonna cancel for this but like I did that before and I'm not gonna put a ton of fire on the left and the

right or Russia and America in the set in the 60s it's just like we all got nukes a point let's go what we gonna do so I think it'll hit a time and a threshold when people realize like yeah, yeah, we've all fucked up. We've all done dumb shit. What was like? And I think that people will be generally more nuanced. And I think this is an overcorrection from an era when, like, you could literally say

anything and it was just crazy. Yeah. To now people overcorrecting. And now it's like you're getting canceled for one tweet that you posted a while back. And I think it will kind of level out as things go forward. People recognize, like, the nuance and the intentionality. I don't see it ever canceling. I think people are just getting more adjusted to the times where it's like, all right, let me not put this out there because I know this would get me canceled.

Like we still have these thoughts in our head, but it's like we're just doing a better job of trying not to get canceled. And so we're basically just being bigger frauds. Which also bothers me. Yeah, that bothers me about the cancel culture. We don't change our thoughts. We just change our words. Yeah. I think that it might be a mixture of both but um i understand the point mark is trying to say i don't know if it ever just like completely goes away i i usually think that like finances dictate these things so i think what what's happening

right now is that um for lack of a better word like cancel culture is forcing people to go independent in order to continue to create the art that they want to create. Right. Right? We're a perfect example of that. Right? You create that independence, that insulation,

and then all of a sudden, all the value will be with the creators that are independent and all the eyeballs will be with those creators. And then the only way to have access to that for the big corporations is if eyeballs will be with those creators and then the only way to have access to that for the big corporations is if they do deals with those independent creators netflix special perfect example we do the exact next netflix special we want to make right that could never have been done five years ago the first time we do a netflix special whatever the

we want to do yeah i would i would say some level, like they're very few outside of like the Chappelle's and stuff. That's very rare, but we cultivated something so that that could happen. I think that will be the end, if you will, of cancel culture. It's create an audience, have autonomy,

have all the leverage in the world to do your thing. Yeah. And then you can partner with these corporations and the corporations will go, well I need to pay the bills and I need to make money. And the way we do that is with these independent guys who have this massive audience. And then there won't be any value to the scrutiny because the second you get scrutinized, you get canceled,

you go, well I just won't work with that company anymore. Like I'll be honest, you know, actually no, I'm not gonna say that just yet. But I think that is the trajectory we're going. Yeah, and I think also entertainment is getting so splintered that we can all just kind of go to the guys we like. The I think that is the trajectory. Yeah, and I think also entertainment is getting so splintered that we can all just kind of go to the guys we like. The far left can find the guys that don't offend them.

The far right can find the guys that don't offend them. The rest of us who are just looking for humor can find it wherever we want to find it. Yeah, and you know what ends up happening? The only time you hear the pushback is when a watering hole streaming platform or a watering hole television show unites them. So for example, like the far left guys

or the far right guys, they have their own audiences, they live in their ecosystems, they don't touch anybody else. The only time it's really an issue is when one of those guys comes to Netflix or comes to HBO. How are you platforming this person? How are you doing?

That's the only reason, right? Yeah. That's the only time the bloggers and shit like that are talking all this stuff. Yeah. When they're existing within their own little ecosystems, nobody's blogging about Stephen Crowder, how fucked up he is.

Yeah. Maybe they are, but it's just not. I disagree because it's like, there's everybody has their own side. So like what's going on with Joe right now. Yeah. Hey, if I want some clicks, let me just go see what

he's doing over there i think his platform let me clarify behind a paywall let me clarify what i was saying uh you don't have people pushing back against stephen crowder as much because he's existing in his ecosystem right uh in the same and and excuse me um and the same thing on some like super left-leaning one what was that podcast that the obama writer did i don't know hot save america or something like that i'm not basically those people existing in their ecosystem and they have their people that support what they do right but i guarantee if crowder did a special for netflix you'd have all these left-wing people going, how the fuck could you put him on your, on your, do you know what this guy said? Blah, blah, blah. And I guarantee

if the extreme left podcast or show did a Netflix special, you'd have all these people on the right going, how the fuck could you platform these communists? What the hell are you doing? Etc. It's only when they come to the watering hole where both sides got to unite to watch fucking Game of Thrones or Shadow and Bone or whatever thing thing both of us are now in this same place where we have to go oh my god why are you putting this stuff in front of me and i think to his point like rogan being on spotify is the watering hole and like he didn't get any flack or any heat prior to being on spotify but now that he's in the central youtube now when he was on youtube he got a lot but also also he was just the biggest but now that he's platformed centralized. No, when he was on YouTube, he got a lot, but also he was just the biggest.

But now that he's platformed by a major corporation. Now you can hold the platform responsible. Right. Exactly. And because remember, you can't put heat to someone who owns their shit. If somebody's like, Schultz, how dare you put yourself

on your YouTube channel? Right? I'm like, yeah, the audacity. Right? But if you go Spotify, the audacity, right? But if you go Spotify, how dare you? Now Spotify got to worry about all their other businesses, all their other relationships. Oh shit, do I want these people who are listening to music,

which is 90% of our business, 95%? Do I want them to stop listening to us? Oh fuck, now I got to make a decision. Is it worth all this scrutiny? Yeah. And I can empathize with them too. Like as a business grows, you get less attached to the people you work with.

Like, I don't know if I should talk about this, but you have like, you have a company that does ads for podcasts, right? You bring on podcasts right now that you like. As it continues to grow, with God willing it does, I'm trying to look for, hey, you get this guy, this guy, this guy.

You're just gonna get less attached to each person that adds to it. So 100 podcasts down the, with God willing it does, I'm trying to look for, hey, you get this guy, this guy, this guy. You're just going to get less attached to each person that adds to it. So 100 podcasts down the line, God willing, somebody might say something that's crazy, and you don't know that guy. If 85 South says something that's crazy, Carlos is my guy. I'm not getting rid of Carlos.

Fuck you. But 100, when you're Spotify size, I don't know this guy. Get rid of him. What do I care? He can figure it out. He's causing too many problems. He's causing problems in my life.

I don't even know this motherfucker. Get him out. I'll go to bat for my guys that I started with. After that, hey, man, you were here as a business transaction, and it was great while it lasted, and now it's not worth the headache. Tony Hinchcliffe. Don't even know me. Drop some.

You probably didn't even see the video, the full set. Didn't even understand the context. It's not worth it. TMZ did a story, and they're like, we have to separate ourselves from this because we're a publicly traded company. And it is an issue. Like that's a real issue with being part of WME right now. You have to understand like they're concerned

about their stock price. Yeah. And if you could affect their stock price negatively, snip, snip. Yeah. And as a creator, as somebody who would consider signing with wme you have to take that very seriously yeah now before they were public they'd probably snip your ass if you were

bad for what the company looked like in general so i don't know it might not change it but now it shifts it it's now it's magnified stock price is volatile shit bro if it's you're gonna drop my stock twenty dollars get the fuck out I don't need a thousand investors calling me going fucking nuts I just don't need it get out you're one motherfucker be out that's a really it's just really interesting it yeah it's really interesting you got to make that consideration when you're choosing an agency right now especially if you think that you have a voice that could be volatile and you have a voice that could shake shit up. Yeah. And yeah, that's something to consider.

Yeah. So any like concluding thoughts on the Rogan situation? He's the best. No, again, I thought the rest. Yeah. I don't think he said it.

Well, I also, again, empathize with not saying shit. Well, when you do a podcast, we do half the episodes he does. The episodes are shorter.

And every week I walk out of here being like, ah, that didn't come out right. So like 100% empathize. And I think also the cancel culture, to your point, they should be, people who are supportive of it should be mindful of the fact that at some point, if you're not perfect, it's going to come for you.

Chrissy Teigen, Judd Apatow, these are people that Chrissy Teigen came for, Judd Apatow could easily come for. And if you've been supportive of this, they're going to enjoy taking you down even more. Because then the right will be like yo fuck fighting for cancel culture this guy fought against us take that motherfucker down yeah let's go all right guys you just listened to a clip from our weekly patreon episode if you want to continue to listen to that episode subscribe join the asshole army patreon keep it tight and keep it flagrant with us you can do that at

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