Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reveals HUGE Announcement, Apple Goggles are the Future, & Aliens Confirmed

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

YERRRRRR, TORONTO we’ve been building up to this for a decade now. Last time I was there I made you a promise. Consider it kept. See you where the Raptors play 🍁 We also talked about Apple Pro V...ision goggles changing the game, UFO's confirmed by the US Government, and Lily-Rose Depp's HEAVIES. INDULGE Presale starts June 7th - 12pm EST Code: ANDREW Tix @ TheAndrewSchulz.com --------------- time codes coming:

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. We got a big announcement, as you saw in the title and probably the thumbnail. There's a big announcement, and we could all just tell you right now, okay? But instead, we made a different video to tell you. It's still me telling you. It's just different lighting, and there's probably some music and stuff. I mean, look, we got a lot of people
Starting point is 00:00:26 on staff here and we got to find things for them to do. Can we just play the video? Yeah, this is losing steam. I feel like it's losing steam. I feel like we should try to draw this out as long as possible. Guys, it's a huge announcement. Do you guys have anything you'd
Starting point is 00:00:42 like to announce before we get to the huge announcement? I'm going to play the video Does anybody have any announcements There's a big Announcement coming guys But prior to that Miles Any milestones In your life you'd like to share
Starting point is 00:00:59 Milestones Play the video Okay I'm just saying before that Dove is there anything that you would also like to announce? This is an announcement time. I had a date the other night. No, stop it. Play the video. Just play the video.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Toronto, the last time I was on stage in your city, I made a promise. Some of you probably remember it. You see, I've been coming up to Toronto to do shows for a decade now. I remember the first show I ever headlined there. It was for 100 people in a great little comedy club on Bloor Street called Comedy Bar. And every time I came back up, a few more people came out, and we went from doing comedy clubs to movie houses to music halls to these majestic theaters. And even when that pussy-ass venue canceled my show because some of my jokes were offensive,
Starting point is 00:01:48 we switched venues and you guys came out in droves and that meant a lot to me. I assume that's because despite the venues getting fancier, there is one thing that has always remained the same, and that is that everyone gets these jokes. You know when you walk in the venue, everything is fair game. Now, for the last 10 years, every time I came up to Toronto, there was one venue that I would walk by. And I would look at this venue, and I would say to myself, one day, one day, I'm going to fucking earn that.
Starting point is 00:02:19 And I'm going to put on the craziest show this city has ever seen. And the last time I was on stage in Toronto, I made a promise. I just really appreciate you always supporting me. Next time we're here, we gotta do this shit where the Raptors play. I'll tell you that much. That's September 30th, the Scotiabank Arena.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I'll see you where the Raptors play. Hey! Okay. Rate the cringe factor. How were we? Where were we? One to ten on the cringe factor. The only cringy thing is I almost cried watching it.
Starting point is 00:02:57 That's the only cringy thing. You're very funny. That is fucking dope, dude. That's gross. That's my y'all. I don't give a fuck. I'm a cry, bro. Look how you're dressed calling me gay.
Starting point is 00:03:08 How fucking dare you? How dare you not cry dressed like that? This is the best part. I can't believe it. You remember what happened yesterday? We were supposed to record. Alex dressed like all three Golden Girls. Bro, Alex had his outfit on yesterday.
Starting point is 00:03:22 We were supposed to record. We did Patreon. And then he was like Dude I can't waste this outfit On Patreon He found it in the back room Oh Cause he said
Starting point is 00:03:30 I don't want to waste the fit On Patreon Son I look too good No no no I think Yeah I understood that I understood that You respect that
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah yeah Sometimes He's just a hater Sometimes you put on a fire fit And you're like Not enough people saw this Exactly Not enough people saw this. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Not enough people saw this. Run it back. I didn't run it back, but he did run it back. No, but he didn't wear it on Patreon. I'm not you with only three shirts. Hold on, hold on. That outfit was too good for Patreon? Yes!
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yes! That's what I'm saying. So he dressed like a bushwag girl. So Patreon's getting the B-sides? Yes. It was still kind of fire, though. Bro, you found it in a Bushman girl. So Patriot's getting the B-sides? Yes. It was still kind of fire, though. Bro, you found it in a lunch clap cabinet. I mean, I got some fire shit in here just laying around.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It was overalls. I found a diamond in the rough, bro. Anywho, Toronto. Hey, congrats on Scotiabank. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Toronto, very excited for this. This is going to be crazy, man. I'm very excited.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And so right now, go get tickets. Oh, wait a minute. When this is coming out, no man. I'm very excited. And so right now, go get tickets. Oh, wait a minute. When this is coming out, no, you can get tickets tomorrow, starting at 12 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. dandrushowls.com. It's on pre-sale. So just for you guys, make sure you use the promo code Andrew. Go get that.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah. Yeah, baby. That shit is major, bro. Yeah, it's cool. In our fucking arena. Yeah, it's cool. That's the first arena. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I mean, that's an arena, bro. Yeah, yeah. cool. That's the first arena. That's crazy. I mean, that's, how do you, an arena, bro? Yeah, yeah. There's only two I care to do. It was Toronto, Scotiabank, and obviously- Why Toronto? Toronto's been like the city that's held me down.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah. Like New York. Yeah, they do. For me, it's like, it's, yeah, since the beginning, to be honest. It was like the first,
Starting point is 00:05:02 I think the first theater I ever did was in Toronto. Yeah. And I've just been going there for so long, and people have been coming out for so long. Like, brilliant Idiots fans
Starting point is 00:05:10 from back in the day, they would show so much love when I came out there. You know what's cool, too, is Toronto's got such cucky policies. Yeah. It's great that the fans
Starting point is 00:05:17 are still flagrant. Yeah. I mean, the city policies are mad cucky. Bro. The fans still fuck with the flagrant. The last Toronto show, I think that was
Starting point is 00:05:25 their first live show since the pandemic. We did those three shows there and it was crazy. People were finally coming out. The six were fired up. Do you remember? All the security was all the six, all the Punjabis. I thought you were saying the six.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Is that why they all moved there? I was wondering about that. It actually makes a lot of sense when you say it. But they were all the security. And I was like, why? And it was the warrior thing. Yeah. And they were like, yeah, well, that's what we do.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, it is what we do. We added trucking. That's true. That's true. Yeah. So, yeah, I've always, I don't know, every time I went there, I was like, yo, I got to do this, man. And it was just so cool. The opportunity came. And, yeah, I've always, I don't know, every time I went there, I was like, yo, I got to do this, man. And it was just so cool. Opportunity came, and yeah, I'm really excited for it.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Really excited for it. And now we got to just make this show a spectacle, you know? Which you will. Yeah, we got to do it. Not even fucking question. We got to do it. We got to do it. We got to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:16 That's the thing when you do an arena. It's like, or when you get into these bigger spaces, how do you fill that fucking space? Yeah, but you've been thinking on that level since comedy clubs. Yeah. So I have no doubt. Yeah. We got some ideas. You can top Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I don't know about that one, bro. I don't know about that one. You can top Taylor Swift. I don't know about that one. She's single now. Oh, yeah. Wait. I'm asking you.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I can't tell. I bought her. I think she wears the pants in a relationship. How tied to the fact that uh her boyfriend was making real quick for you move on don't move on you're doing a fucking arena but i do need to ask you this if pre-sales on sale tomorrow are they annoyed that you're announcing this right now yeah we had a whole agreement positive there's a massive whoever you're working with was like hey announce on wednesday yeah we had a whole agreement and I'm positive. There's a massive, whoever you're working with, was like, hey, announce on Wednesday. Yeah, we had a whole agreement.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And they were like, you have to announce on Wednesday. And I was like, got it. Yeah, look at my email feed right now. Not good. He's up. This guy loves y'all, Flaygren. This motherfucker loves y'all. Yeah, it was a fun call.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And there's a press release going out at 6 a.m. Wednesday. And I was like, got it. No one's going to know until 6 a.m. Wednesday. And I was like, got it. No one's going to know until 6 a.m. Wednesday. You said pre-sale goes on sale tomorrow. And I was like, what? Yeah. Oh. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I didn't really pick up that that's weird. What they didn't know is that our podcast comes out on Tuesdays. So that's when it's announced. What do you want me to do? Not announce it on the podcast? They can't tell you anything, bro. No way. They can't tell you anything, bro. They can't even tell you about your own shows.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Or else you're going to tell everyone before it's time to tell them. You've got to keep it a secret from me. Wednesday, I've got to find out. Yeah, you've got to find out on Instagram. Oh, shit, I'm doing social media? If you were an NBA player, you would have to get found out you traded from TMZ or whatever the fuck. ESPN. 100%. I'd be the jet dude that showed up to the facility and his code didn't work.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah. That's foul, bro. And they had the camera waiting for you. Nobody even talks about that. There was a dude they hired. It was Jamal Adams, right? Yeah, Jamal Adams, I think. But there was a dude just waiting.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You know he was pulling up like, this is kind of odd. Yeah. Why is there a camera waiting at the door for one specific shot? Why is he smiling so big? But if you got traded, let's say you played for the Raptors and they traded you, you would for sure call your own press conference and be like, yo, you're not supposed to know this. I'm getting traded tomorrow. Oh, I'd be salty
Starting point is 00:08:36 on Twitter for sure. Oh, 100%. I would be salty on Twitter for sure. Actually, once I found out... You would have a whole video. Bro, once I found out that I was getting traded, I would say, i demand a trade so you know it's like breaking up with a girl before she break up with you you know even though she you know she's gonna actually do it so i demand a trade to whatever team i was gonna go to i would say i demand a trade yeah i'm going to orlando that's it yep my dream you are you know mean? You got to let the kids play, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:06 That's what, yes, 100%. Shout out Toronto. So yeah, I'm excited. We got to, yeah, we got to get some folks out, man. We got to get Drake doing standup. Oh. I love that. Wouldn't that be kind of fun?
Starting point is 00:09:18 He would actually be good at it too. He is. He's good at everything. He is shockingly good. I saw him do some roast of Nike execs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you guys see that? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And he did a thing that is very rare for people who don't know how to do stand-up or who have never done it before. Usually when they do it, they're very needy on the laugh. They're really delivering the punchline. They're super telegraphing it. And he did a thing that usually people who haven't done it before don't do, and he kind of almost threw away the punchline. They're like super telegraphing it. And he did a thing that usually people who haven't done it before don't do, and he kind of like almost threw away the punchlines.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So he wasn't like screaming for the energy back from the crowd. I was like, alright, that's kind of good. But that would be kind of wild. Yeah. I mean, you saw him when he hosted the ESPYs. Oh, yeah, it was good. And even the sketches he did with DeMar DeRozan, speaking of Raptors back then. I mean, the guy's fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:10:05 He just is. Low-key, the ESPYs have really good writing or hosts. Because John Cena killed that shit, too, I think. Our boys wrote for it. Yasser Lester and his brother wrote for it. Oh, really? But yeah, they wrote for them. Oh, that's fire.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. Yeah, that's fire. Drake probably watches. Yeah. I saw he caught on to the wave, you know. He caught on to the waves. Al is never going to shut up about the nails, bro. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:10:32 He's in album mode. I'm the boy. I'm the boy, bro. I'm the boy, bro. Nah, but he's watching. So, Drake, yeah, come out. Do some jokes, bro. Okay, so you think the nails are the new thing right now?
Starting point is 00:10:43 I mean, it is. They are the new thing, but Al acting like he started it, which annoys me. I found Mark. I'm super ticked. Remember Mark did this shit during pandemic and we shamed him out of it? Wait, you did nails? Yeah, he did painted nails during pandemic and we shamed the fuck out of him. He was with his niece or something like that.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Now I'm with my niece. Now it's excuses. He was gay before. He was gay when he did it before. But now you went to change you out of it and you stopped. Like, that's excuses. He was gay before. He was gay when he did it before. But now you went to New York. We shamed you out of it and you stopped. Oh, I like that. That's it.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Too flimsy. No, I leveled up. I leveled up. You still doing that though? No. Real talk. I did that shit in the 90s. Wait, when did I go to college?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Is that the 90s? Everything in the 90s to me now. Back in the day is the 90s. When was I in college? 2002 to 2006. 2002. It's almost the 90s. You know what's crazy? The 90s was 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:11:28 When people say 30 years ago, don't you think like 60s, 70s? Ooh, damn, bro. That shit hit my chest. 30 years ago? 30 years ago. About time I did this fucking arena. How long have I been in this goddamn career, bro? Holy shit. Nah, 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:11:44 We're living in our fifth decade oh whoa yeah that's wow that is wow what do you mean y'all shut up i was like no you also when were you born out 89 85 88 88 same 88. Same. Oh, wow. Old as hell. Same? No, same. You old, bro. Ow, ow. You too old to be painting nails. Come on, son. Son, the painting nails shit is cool, but you too old for that shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Son, Drake's older than me. Even? Drake's older than me. But now I got to stop it, because now everybody's off on a wave. Now it's too popular, bro. Yeah, I know. Damn, bro. I got to set a new trend.
Starting point is 00:12:24 What's the new one? Sucking dick? Nah, huh? Yeah, bro. I got to set a new trend. What's the new one? Sucking dick? Nah, you got that one first. You all can bid on that one. Yeah, you can't dick ride, man. Look, look, look. If it's not... That was nice of you.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Listen, what'd I do right there? What if it's not the nails, what would it be? I don't know. I got to figure it out. Okay. You got to figure it out. You got to figure it out, bro. How long did it take you to figure out the nails?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I know it's not the cut. Because I know that was only your idea. How do you figure it out? What's the secret? How do you figure out the nails? The nails was me. But how did you figure it out? Was it a dream?
Starting point is 00:13:03 No, you know, I just winked it. Off the cuff out. I hate you so much. I hate this so much, dude. I hate it. I really do. Once the haircut catches on, you know you're gonna take credit for that shit. He took credit for a guy that didn't
Starting point is 00:13:21 get the haircut. We haven't seen this haircut since 1941. So that was funny. Wesley Snipes had it in Blade. Yeah, Wesley did kill it, actually, in Blade. And everybody loved that shit. I think the 90s are really coming back. Was that the 90s?
Starting point is 00:13:34 What? What? What was the 90s? No, it was Demolition Man. Everything's the 90s. What was it, Blade? Nah, Blade. Demolition Man, he was blonde.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, but Blade, he had that exact cut. Yeah, I saw Luca. I got gassed up. Luca put a picture on his story of him getting his fade. But the barber set the line for the fade first, and he posted the picture. And it looked like it was just my cut. And I was like, they riding my cut And I was like They riding
Starting point is 00:14:05 I texted group I texted multiple group chats I was like yeah where's your jokes now When the greatest white NBA player ever Got my fucking haircut First they do it then they copy I think that's what I said It's true
Starting point is 00:14:19 I didn't even go to the next story Because I was so excited I clicked the next story Fade all in Regular haircut that he already has It is true. Next story. I didn't even go to the next story because I was so excited. I clicked the next story. Fade all in. Regular haircut that he already has. So it hasn't caught on just yet. But it's coming, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:30 It's coming. Don't worry about it. He will. No, it's definitely coming, though. It's going to come. Yeah, it's going to come. How many people are going to get the fade, bro? But you got to stay with it. Yo, I don't get fades.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I catch them, son. Yo, I don't get fades. I catch fades, bro. No, you give fades. Wait, let me try that one more time. You catch your fades. It was different in the 90s. It was different in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:14:50 He was workshopping his lines yesterday. I thought I workshopped them. It wasn't enough black people there. Listen, okay, okay. What is it again? What is it again? Hold on, what is it again? Come on, Blanche.
Starting point is 00:15:01 What was it again? Come on, son. Stop playing with me right now, Al. Al, stop playing with me. What was it? Come on. Stop playing with me right now, Al. Stop playing with me. What is it? I don't get. Wait. I don't get fades.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I give them. I give fades. I don't catch fades. No, I don't get fades. I give them. Workshop it a little more. Yeah, we can workshop it. We're back.
Starting point is 00:15:24 We're back. We're back. Sorry back sorry miles you got to make that cut uh listen speaking of this haircut kanye has been out and about with his girl i feel bad for his mannequin wife whatever it's just like every morning they wake up and he's like okay i'm gonna turn you into a flashlight and you're just gonna walk around la with this and then people are going to take pictures of us and that's what we're going to do today. Yeah, dog.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Right? I don't feel bad for her. Why not? She signed up for that. We saw the previous one. What was the other one? White chick. Kim?
Starting point is 00:15:56 Oh, Fox. Julia Fox. Yeah. Like, he blew her up. People actually cared about what she was doing during that time. After they split. It is a career come up. Slow and cared about what she was doing during that time. After they split, it's a little dry. It is a career come up. I never knew her name before this.
Starting point is 00:16:09 You saw her getting flirted with at the mall? Bro, getting rizzed out of control. That video was fire. Bro, I called my girl, and I said, watch this, tell me what you think of this. Like, I was like, yo, you need to, like like would you behave in this manner and what was the consensus she was like no this is crazy uh good like this is a married woman cheesed out of her mind her whole face is just wrinkled up she's so happy that this guy's talking to her and then we don't even know if he got the number or not nah she told him she's like no i'm sorry i'm married
Starting point is 00:16:41 and then the video cut she probably sucked his dick right there. She might have, dude. No, dude, it was crazy. She can't suck his dick through that thing. That's why she put her in a dog cone. It's like a dog collar you keep from... Put her in a dog cone and be like, hey, stop sucking everyone's dick, dude. They both got to cock back the foreskin. Dude.
Starting point is 00:17:04 What about his t-shirt? I love Jews, bro. Dove was like. I thought it was Italian. It's German? German. I was like, he's still on his racist shit. I was like, why?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Why? But Dove can do that with Kanye. Hold on. Because Kanye's got a history. A very recent history. Hold on. He's not looking for it. Why?
Starting point is 00:17:21 I'm not looking for it. Why? I just saw it and I was like, oh, it looks like an Italian thing. Yeah, but Kanye probably did that shit on purpose. Can you say what we're saying they about? Yeah, Kanye's shirt says police or whatever, which is German police. That's the German word for police. That's what they wear in Germany.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So it was a lot of countries in Europe. Did the Nazis turn into police? Was there police and Nazis? Yeah. So there was the SS and then there was just police. Yeah, but it was like the brown shirts became the party and then became, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:49 There was Gestapo. There was SS. SS were the worst. Probably Gestapo too. Maybe the police were good. Yeah, maybe they were good guys. Maybe there were some good Jew-loving police in Germany.
Starting point is 00:18:03 We don't know. Maybe they didn't do the Jew-hating is what he's saying. Maybe that was maybe they knew and Frank was up there. They didn't do shit about it the entire time. So maybe he's maybe he's turned a new leaf. Maybe this is this is Jew positive Kanye. Actually not really because if it is for skin around her, he's like really driving.
Starting point is 00:18:20 He's like, I love for skin for skin is the best thing ever. Here's my German shirt. My German dick. And why are shoulder pads racist? This shit is going to catch on, bro. Oh, God. The shoulder pad thing? You non-shoulder having motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:18:36 This shit is going to catch on. I don't know. Why is that racist to have shoulder pads, though? Is that part of it? Or is it just the Germans? What's racist about this? This could be the current police. Why that police? Why that police?
Starting point is 00:18:49 It's not Nazi Germany anymore. Oh yeah, are all Germans Nazis too? If he was just wearing a German flag, would that be... No, but you're also not allowed to wear a swastika in Europe. That's not a swastika. I don't know. Germans never do anything good. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Listen to Beethoven. What is it called. Can Germans never do anything good? Listen to Beethoven, do you not? Once, what is it called? That thing that happened in Germany? The Holocaust. Did that happen? No. No, no, no. Once World War II, obviously Holocaust happened. Is everything after that Germans are bad? Forever?
Starting point is 00:19:19 There's got to be a good... You worked in Germany. You lived in Germany. The Germans. See? You lived in Germany? you lived in Germany. The Germans. Love them. See? You lived in Germany? Yeah. Wow. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Dove is Mossad, low key. Yes, dude. I think this entire time, like every time I see Dove a little bit stressed and I'm like, I have to remember, he's also an international spy. Yeah. So he's managing all of this while also finding a way to like keep down. All right, all right. It is Earth. Those who shall not be named. I fuck with it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 You like it. Wear it. Go. Wear it. Do it. It's growing on me. Do it. Wear it.
Starting point is 00:19:57 No, the shoulder pads, not the polizier. I mean, the whole look. What are the police supposed to wear in Germany? But that's like riot gear police. Like, what's he doing? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I mean, he's, what is it called? Dog whistling? Yeah. Is that the term? Yeah. Yeah. You can't. Yes, I can.
Starting point is 00:20:15 You can't call anybody gay. That's what I'm saying, bro. If you're of the culture, you can call me that. There you go. Oh, if you are gay, you can call. So you meant it as a compliment. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Very good. Fair enough. Come you meant it as a compliment. Very gay. Fair enough. Come on, you're very close. This, I don't know if this is gay. Very close. Nah, son, you look like a greaser. Yeah, I'm a greaser. If he was at Pride Parade, you don't think that would fit?
Starting point is 00:20:37 That outfit fits. If he's on one of the floats. I think if I take this off and I go like full Freddie Mercury. Oh, wow. Yeah. Then it's this. But just this. I'm just like a fucking stud.
Starting point is 00:20:47 What are you doing? The mustache and the slick is always going to be this. Super hot, sexy guy. Yeah, I get it. The girls just want to fucking throw it all the time. I understand what I'm giving right now. I'm not saying, to be honest, top half is not gay. It's fire, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:04 No, no, no, no, no. It is not. No, the top half is fire. And you know I like the sneakers. The pants are just new. They're interesting. Yeah, I know. Giants.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I like Giants. Where did you get them? I actually got... I was joking. That was good. That was good. That was good. He was excited, too. That was cute. That was cute. I was going. He was excited, too. I was cute.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I was cute. I was going to snitch on myself. No, wait. Where did you go? I was going to snitch on myself. A fucking Instagram ad got me, bro. No! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:33 You can't be wearing Instagram clothes, bro. What did they look like in the ad? Just like this. No way. No way. No way. No way. Come on, Mark.
Starting point is 00:21:43 No way. Stop. I bought stuff off Instagram ads, and it does not look like what I thought I bought. So you bought something new that looks like it's secondhand? Yeah. Like, seriously? Like, that's what you did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:54 There's a whole market for it. Why ain't all Mark's flannels, son? Yeah. He loves his flannels. I know. He's so upset that Derek Poston only wears flannel, son? Yeah. He loves his flannel. I know. He's so upset that Derek Poston only wears flannels on the road. Yes. Because now Mark has no clothes left to wear.
Starting point is 00:22:12 That's why he got co-headlighted. Yes. Flannel boys. Flannel boys. Yo, flannel boys, bro. Honestly, it's a movement. Okay. What else we got?
Starting point is 00:22:22 We got aliens confirmed. Shannon Sharp is out. The Idol. Oh, let's go to The Idol. Yeah, let's talk about The Idol. Let me tell you something about The Idol. What is this show? Shout out to The Idol.
Starting point is 00:22:33 New HBO show from Sam Levinson. Sam Levinson is the guy who wrote Euphoria. It's absolutely fantastic. It's produced and starring Johnny Depp's daughter Lily Rose Depp and The Weeknd bunch of other famous actors in it as well it's about this young
Starting point is 00:22:53 music pop star artist named Jocelyn and she's just come off a mental breakdown or something, she's about to put out a new album, whatever or new song, whatever, or new song, new sale come out. Anyway, the plot of the first episode.
Starting point is 00:23:18 First of all, before we even get to the plot, I get a text. The thing comes on at like nine o'clock. At nine and 30 seconds, Vala is already texting me, son, Lily Rose Depp? Crazy. I'm like, what's going on? I don't get to see until 11 o'clock. Bro, the opening scene. No, bro. Bro. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:41 You shouldn't be able to be that skinny and that heavy at the same time, bro. It's like an optical illusion, bro. It's an optical illusion. It's an optical illusion, dude. It's nice. She's so skinny, but she's so heavy. It's an optical illusion, bro. It's an optical illusion, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Like, I'm looking at her, how skinny she is, but she's so heavy as fuck. It's an optical illusion. Bro, it's an optical illusion, though. Those motherfuckers sound like Dr. Ubald, right? Bro, it's an optical illusion, and I need some donations. Dude, I didn't know what to think. I'd never heard of this girl until Vala yesterday. Vala spread the word, bro. So I didn't know what to think. I'd never heard of this girl until Vala yesterday.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Vala spread the word, bro. So I didn't hear about her. Vala's like, yo, this girl, she's the one. And I'm like, who the fuck? She's the one. I'm like, who is this? I've never heard of her. He pulled her up.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Pictures on Google don't do justice. Yo, they're regular shmegular on Google. No disrespect, Lily Rose. No, all disrespect. Whoa, bro. Yo, they're regular shmegular on Google. No disrespect, Lily Rose. No, all disrespect. Whoa, bro. We got to big up right now. We're going to objectify this girl. Come on, we're celebrating.
Starting point is 00:24:53 They don't do her. Yeah, disrespect to the photographers. To the photographers. True, true, true. Catch her angles, bro. Bro. And the angle is all of them. Straight on and to the side.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Bro, there is a moment where you see her nipples. Son, this is going to sound crazy to say. Son, we might have to. I really did think I was in Chimp Empire for a second when I was watching the show. I put my knuckles on the bed. My girl was like, what's going on? I was like, don't worry about it. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I started grabbing branches, throwing them all over.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Hey. Bro, the nipples. Nah, they ain't that nice. Wait, but how'd you watch this with just shorty though? What like I got a That's the nipple right there, bro That to be cgr That to be CGI. That had to be CGI. That had to be CGI. That had to be CGI.
Starting point is 00:26:12 That had to be CGI. That's so funny. Hey! No. That's fine. You got to just find the scene. Go to the scene. I'm trying to find it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Because you see? It's an optical illusion. They made that heavy there. It might be CGI. It's an optical illusion. How've got heaviness. It's an optical illusion. How do you just get heavier? It might be angles of CGI or something. We're looking at pictures right now. I need to put this on my lap, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:35 If we're going to watch that scene, I need to put this pillow on my lap. How'd they get heavier with nothing else getting heavier? No, no, but she has body. No, she don't. When she's dancing outside? For Al, no. For you, yeah. For you?
Starting point is 00:26:51 No. Stop. I'm used to the wagon. That's what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying? Hulk's game. Hulk's game. Come on.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Dumpers. We do dumpers over here. Come on, sir. For LA, for Beverly Hills, LA, where you were born and raised, I see why you think that that is body. But we're still off the nipples. She got two crickets coming out. Look at them crickets. Look at them crickets, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Oh, my God, bro. Chimpanzee time. It's chimpanzee time. Come on, bro. Look at the profile of that nipple look at that extension she got a little chode come on bro wow
Starting point is 00:27:34 that's an optical illusion that's an optical illusion that has to be an optical illusion Al Al that would that would shoot straight through your shirt. That would shoot straight through. There's no question. Your blouse would be shredded.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Your blouse is dust. Dude, this is with all due respect. She just hangs her shirts up behind her. With all due respect. With all due respect to Johnny Depp. With all due respect to, I can't even watch anymore. Is that a gif? It's the gif that keeps on gif anymore. Is that a gif? It is the gif.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Is that a gif right there? What does gif stand for? Shit. I'm not saying it. Wow. There you go. Yes, sir. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:28:19 God damn. Okay, so. What? Oh, so he has said it's the new Sidney Sweeney. Oh. But just less heavy. And I was like, then it's nothing. Then it is nothing.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Until I saw the show. I saw the show. I saw the Sidney Sweeney trying to act. And then that movie came on after. until I saw the show. Shout out to Sidney Sweeney trying to act. He's done. And then that movie came on after and I was like, oh, she's done. No, she's done.
Starting point is 00:28:50 They're trying to get her out of here. They're trying to get her out of here. Don't let them do it to you, Sidney Sweeney. You are milk queen number one. You are milk queen number one.
Starting point is 00:28:59 But guys, stop being sexist over here. You're right. That's my bad. Y'all really tapped out of this conversation like we all not married. I'm done dragged me
Starting point is 00:29:06 into a single guy conversation. I'm done dragged you into it. You done dragged me into it. You started it. Dude, it's an optical illusion. I'm not even here, man. I was about to lick your nipples. This an optical illusion.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Shit. Fuck. God damn. Dude. But isn't the show that the girl gets cummed on? Don't give some smart fucking... Oh, no, that wasn't smart. She got cummed on in the show.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Okay, yeah, this is the plot of the show. The plot of the show is she gets cummed on in her face and took a selfie of it, and that goes viral. That's the plot for the first episode. And they show the picture of her getting cummed on. Yo, Sam Levinson is the wildest motherfucker. Wild boy. Holy shit. Come on, son.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's great. What's going on? Like, at what point is it just porn? If she's covered in cum and is on the TV and you're watching it alone. That's real life shit. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:29:57 At what part? About 35 seconds in is that what part when my fucking blanket was hopping up and down left and right. That's what part? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Are you kidding me, Mark? I asked my girl, I was like, what'd you do this year? She was like, oh, I watched The Idol. Yeah, she watched it with my wife.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah, why? Well, because I told my girl about it in the morning and she managed within five minutes to completely ruin Lily-Rose Depp for me. What did she say?
Starting point is 00:30:21 I was like, wow, I just watched The Idol. She's a very beautiful girl, Sydney Sweeney. Why would you even do this? Bro, what'd you think was going to happen, I just watched the idols. You're a very beautiful girl, Sidney Sweeney. Why would you even do this? Bro. What did you think was going to happen? I know.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Why are you snitching on yourself, yo? Maybe I didn't even say that. I probably said it another way. I was like, yeah, there's a dairy factory over at HBO. Sidney Sweeney and Lily Rose Depp. And I'm feeling lactose intolerant. Okay, I just pulled my neck. I'm from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:30:50 There's another actress that's going to make an appearance. Don't do it to us. Should we wait until next week? We don't want to see that now. Yeah, we do. What is her name? Sophie Mudd. That's a fire name. Let's go, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Wait, what's that? Sophie Mudd. I mean, that's a fire name. Let's go, baby. He's like, what am I dapping right now? What am I dapping? Bro. Wait, pull that up. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I was dapping. You had to give it up. Pull that up. There we go. Oh, my God. Listen, this is with all due respect here. Honestly, what we're talking about right now, we're talking about. No, no.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Okay. Can I just clarify what we're talking about right now? We're talking about her parents. We're not even talking about her. Her parents came together to create this. Holy shit. That's what I'm saying. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Can I take your order? Can I get this? My painted nails. Can we get your order? Can I get my painted nails? Can we get some credit? No, this is, what is going on exactly? What's happening even? So she'll be in five eps. She's on creative of the show.
Starting point is 00:31:56 He's a revolutionary. Yo, Sam Levinson. Sam Levinson need a high five. Sam Levinson needs a high five. He needs a different hand, though. Lefty, you gotta go lefty, because my right is sore. It's like Sam Levinson and Martin Luther King, just like right
Starting point is 00:32:11 here. Martin Luther King, Martin Luther Cream. Like, holy shit. God damn. Now he knows good TV. Why'd we get away from it? That's what I'm saying good TV. Why we get away from it? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Why we ever get away from it? God damn. He's a 90s boy. Son, can I be objective here? Oh, I'm in trouble. Please. Hurry up and get there. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:32:39 These young bitches got fat fucking tits. I mean, Jesus Christ. It is just, I think it's the vaccine, bro. I'm going to be honest with you. Titties like this wasn't out in the 1990s. It wasn't out in the 2019, 2020 to 2023. Post-pandemic titties, bro. It's that banana bread they were eating.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's the vaccine. It's the booster. Thank Fauci for them shits, boy. Yo, Fauci? Exonerated. Fauci's been exonerated. There we go. Holy moly. Just trying to get everybody's more calcium and vitamin D in this world. We need it.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You got Johnson and Johnson. Can I be honest with you? What do they say is the number one thing that protects you from COVID? Vitamin D. Vitamin D. Double D. Jesus Christ. All right, listen.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Oh, she's going to steal the show. But this is all due respect to her family to put this together. That breeding put this together. I don't know. How do you grow your own titties out? No, no, no. I mean, yes. Son do you grow your own titties out? No, no, no. I mean, yes. Son, you can't admire a building without admiring the architect.
Starting point is 00:33:49 There's something in the face. It looks. Al, Al, we doing neck down today. Okay, okay. What am I doing? What am I doing? What am I doing? With all due respect.
Starting point is 00:33:59 With all due respect. This is just with all due respect. I was like, the work. I don't know about the work. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I'm sure incredibly talented, but with all due respect. She looked like a young Kate Moss face. Think of young Kate Moss and then think of her face.
Starting point is 00:34:13 They look almost like- What did Kate Moss not have? She had that heroin chic look, but she did not have- The vaccines. She didn't have them vaccines. She didn't have that. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, but you know how we can look at a tall person?
Starting point is 00:34:28 We can be like, oh my God, they're so tall. That's how we should be able to look at these physical specimens, these unique physical specimens. We have to be able to admire an incredibly skinny girl with huge fat fucking dumpster fire tips. We have to be able to. Just like on the street, like an old lady's like, oh, you're so tall. Do you play basketball?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Yes. Big Carap gets that all the time. Hodor gets that all the time. Hodor gets it all the time. Every time I'm taller than you. Do you play basketball? He goes, no, I edit videos where I have costumes.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah, exactly. Right? So what should other people be able to say about this? No, I'm not saying that we should be able to go up to him and just fucking brewskim.
Starting point is 00:35:04 That's not what we should be able to do. I don't think we should touch them. I don't think we should. But to go up to him and just fucking brewskim that's not what we should be able to do i don't think we should touch them i don't think but to be able to talk about a skinny girl that for whatever god-given reason has just a super retarded fucking tits on her tits i mean that is just so unique that we must be able to talk about it. We have to reflect on it. We would be inauthentic if we weren't talking about them. We're just appreciating God right now. What do you think of the show?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Like the writing? Honestly, honestly? Why not? Okay, he didn't get to it. No, I did, I did, i did listen the show who's seen the show here i've seen you seen it of course no i haven't seen it what's it on brothers that's why they don't know what's going on i don't see the vision i don't know you have to men of culture listen i mean my girl describes me exactly how you described it and so i understand where she's
Starting point is 00:36:02 coming from yeah but i haven't seen it myself. I mean, the last scene, bro, when he makes her Muslim, when he makes her a Muslim bride. Do you remember that one? Oh, my God. I remember writing that shit back. Oh, God. Shots at a weekend. Yeah, yeah. Breathe, breathe. Bro, there's a scene in it when she
Starting point is 00:36:19 masturbates while choking herself. Yeah. This is just porn. It was artistic. It was very... This is just porn. No, it was artistic. Why is it not just porn? It was artistic. It was artistic. Yeah, it was artistic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Music is beautiful. Shot, yeah, beautifully. Beautiful, beautifully. Yeah. It was shot beautifully. Yeah, you probably got a couple beautiful shots on it. It's real life shit.
Starting point is 00:36:37 You don't choke yourself by... Come on. You don't do that? That's not your Tuesday night. Bro, but think about the dexterity because a lot of people can't rub their belly while they pat their head. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I would just stroke my neck off and then put pressure on my neck. That's kind of what she was doing. But she was really getting in there. I wonder if they put a pad or something. Because if they didn't put a pad, she would definitely enjoy that. Method acting, Doug. It might be method acting. That's real acting.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm talking about Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah. Yeah. She does her own stunts, bro. She really does. She really does. Okay. She's real acting. Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah. Yeah. She does her own stunts, bro. She really does. She really does. Okay. She's Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Can we talk about the story? I don't even know if we're there yet. Are you okay? I have to pee. Do you really? Yeah. I have to pee. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah. I'll be back in about 90 seconds. That's all I need. Okay. You go pee. You go pee. You go pee. But we're going to keep talking. Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. Because we can't stop. I have to I need. Okay, you go pee, you go pee, you go pee, but we're going to keep talking.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. Because we can't stop. I have to jerk off. What do you do? Now we have, I thought it's an interesting perspective. I think that,
Starting point is 00:37:33 I don't know what the rest of the season is going to be, but I called somebody who will remain nameless and I want to get their take on the show. And he had an interesting thing to say, because I think that this is going to show the artist side, what it's like to be a young artist who has all these
Starting point is 00:37:53 handlers who maybe don't have your best interest at heart, they have their best interest at heart, which is making money. And there was a cool line in the show where she's talking to the weekend and she basically said i don't know maybe he says like why do you like me or something like that i don't know what it is she he says why do you like i don't know but she says the line like she goes when you're famous nobody tells you the truth and i thought you'd be enough of an asshole to be honest with me. And in that moment, I thought there was a beautiful line. And I was like, oh, is that why you see these pop stars dating bad boys? I thought, or religious figures. Bieber had Carl Lentz, right? And you see a bunch of, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Britney Spears had Kevin Federline, et cetera, right? And I'm like, is it with religion, with God, you can trust the honesty? Because you're like, a man of God isn't gonna lie to me. Or is it with the bad boy? You're like, they're just such an asshole. They're gonna speak to me and behave in a way that maybe isn't nice, but it's reminiscent of normalcy. And I can actually trust, you being mean to me, I can trust that.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Nobody's fake mean to each other, right? Like being fake mean to someone doesn't make sense because you can't get anything from them. So you almost trust that meanness more. So I asked a friend about that. And he had an interesting perspective. so i asked a friend about that and he had an interesting perspective he goes he goes i'm sure that's what the show will will show but um i don't think that's what it is i think that these stars in order to be a a star he's this is not everybody but most of these stars are unbelievable narcissists and dating the bad boys or even
Starting point is 00:39:47 being with the religious figures is an act of rebellion. It's still rebellion to those people who are handling them. And it flames out once the love bombing stops because the only thing that they really care about is fulfilling their narcissism. He goes, it is possible. I go, is it possible to not be that narcissist and still be successful? I understand why it's an advantage, but it's kind of gross and I've spoken to these people and there has to be another way to do it. He goes, there is a version of it where talent can trump it. Ed Sheeran is so talented that he can also be a good guy. Yeah. Now, that's not to say that people don't have like, there's a spectrum of narcissism.
Starting point is 00:40:33 We all have some of it. We want to get on stage in front of people. We're recording this podcast. We want to do these things. Without narcissism, there's not a lot of incentive to do this. 100%. But you can also be low enough on the scale where you can be a good person to your friends and family and the whole world doesn't literally have to revolve around you
Starting point is 00:40:49 and what you need to get done. And that becomes very isolating, I can imagine. Now, I think we're going to hear it all from the artist's perspective, but I thought that that perspective was really interesting about famous people and about the relationships they get in and how the act of rebellion is still serving the narcissism. And they get rid of that person that they're dating the second that that narcissism can't serve. Maybe this is where we start talking about Taylor Swift, right? It's like Taylor's 34 years old, every single boyfriend. It's this fucking machine that she runs them through, a huge calamity. They also get famous for good or for bad. This thing with her current boyfriend she just broke up with, Matt Healy, who's, I guess, a lead singer of this band. 1975.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And he's also a fan of, like, comedy podcasts. I think he was on Comptown. Freeland Show, Comptown. And he had some jokes, I guess, about I-Spice, okay? All of a sudden, I-Spice comes out on Taylor's tour. Now, granted, she is a huge artist right now, so that could have been already planned. But it could have been a PR move to protect. She comes out on Taylor's tour, and then a couple days later, Taylor breaks up with the 1975 guy.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Right? Yeah. Coincidence? Yeah, when you put it like that, it don't seem like it. I wonder if she even knows. I wonder if Taylor's just in this narcissism spin cycle where it's like whatever feeds the beast,
Starting point is 00:42:18 whatever is necessary to feed the beast, she will eat. And the beast is building up and becoming the most successful artist in history, and she's arguably there, one of them. And the beast is building up and becoming the most successful artist in history. And she's arguably there, one of them, right? But I wonder if she can even tell the difference. In the same way that Kardashian's dating people, it's like, I do like him. Well, do I like him? I don't know. But I like the attention that I get from liking him and dating him. And maybe that's the same feeling of me actually liking someone's personality
Starting point is 00:42:45 and enjoying their company. And when you're feeling good, you're not distinguishing what's making you feel good. Exactly. That's a lot of analysis to say what's making me feel loved.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Do I really like this person? Do I like the attention? What is it that's actually serving? Yeah, it's hard to discern what it is, especially if you have a tumultuous childhood. You'll yearn for the love
Starting point is 00:43:02 that your parents gave you even if it wasn't good. You know what I mean? Yeah, explain that. If your parents were cold to you, for some people, they'll yearn for a cold love from other people or from partners because that's what their parents gave them.
Starting point is 00:43:16 That's what their love is. And that's what they think that it is, and that's what feels good to them. So again, I don't know what her childhood was, but if she's looking for spectacle and attention through her relationships, that might have been what it felt like with her parents or something. And so she might not even be able to
Starting point is 00:43:32 discern because she's like, oh yeah, this is what my whole life has been. This is what childhood is. This is what love is. I actually, I think she might have gotten into the pattern of using her dating life as a crush. Creative inspiration. Yeah. So it's like, at this point, we've seen it happen creative inspiration yeah so it's like at this point we've seen it happen so many times where it's like okay what's my new muse dude that is so fucking true you hear
Starting point is 00:43:54 about this a lot of time in like fashion with like designers having a muse right there's a model that they really like a singer a person kanye right? So interesting muses, yeah. But basically, yeah, that's really interesting. You get to a certain level of success, and she is at the top of it, right? I'm sure you guys may have even felt like we get a little bit more comfortable. There's less things irritating you. Like when we were in Miami, nothing was irritating me. It was hard to write jokes. Like life was just so good. I was just enjoying everything. Imagine that times a million when you're Taylor Swift, you're fucking almost at a B, you can do whatever you want to do. You know, the biggest tour in the world. What is the motivation to write? What is the motivation to sing? What is the motivation to pour your heart out? Maybe that only comes in the form of these relationships and heartache.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So she's seeking it out to fill the beast that is this creative machine. And maybe she doesn't even notice to give her some credit, because I do think she does it intentionally. But maybe it just happens like your brain associates, oh, I date a guy, I break up with a guy, I get more famous. It's all just good feelings. Like the breakup, I just write a song about it. Everybody thinks I'm great and they're shitty, and I get more famous and more love and more isolation. And to defend her, I would say like, why can't she talk about her relationships? Why can't she talk about her experiences?
Starting point is 00:45:13 We're comics. Like we would talk about the things that go on in our lives 100%. We're on a podcast talking about dating, talking about our wives, talking about all these things. So it's not weird that she doesn't. But just seeking out experiences and people in order to do it. That's where it feels. I would also love the Taylor Swift song that's like,
Starting point is 00:45:31 I fucked up too. I would love that song. Hey, I made some mistakes too. She's got a couple songs like that. Oh, she does. I'm the problem, it's me. Kick Swifty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:41 That's self-aware. Yeah. I'm not familiar enough with the music. I mean, I know that obviously the bangers, but I don't know the music enough to say if she's completely self-aware about what's going on. I also think it's very easy to criticize the people who are most successful. So I want to make sure we're being fair. Oh, she's for talent wise.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's insane. She's so talented. And the tour is amazing. Apparently, everybody who's gone to it has said it's insane. She's so talented. Unbelievable. And the tour is amazing, apparently. Everybody who's gone to it has said it's incredible. She's putting on a concert for hours in these stadiums and entertaining. 40 songs is nuts. Yeah. I just want to give one take. So the show, The Idol, how the girl is like, your theory, she might be a narcissist and that's why she gets with these bad boys to push back against, to rebel. Yeah. That's why she gets with these bad boys to push back against the team.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yeah. I think it could also possibly be, you know how like people in authoritative roles, they sometimes have like kinks that they want to be like shamed. Like they'll go to a dominatrix or some shit like that. And so I think somebody like real and Wolf of Wall Street. Yeah. So somebody in that role,
Starting point is 00:46:42 it's like they have all these just people around them, all these people that are just nice and they want to hear it Wall Street. Yeah, so somebody in that role. It's like they have all these just people around them, all these people that are just nice and trying to make them. They want to hear a no. Yeah. Yeah. It's just having one person that could be like, tell me no once in a while. So she's in such a power position.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. That the lack of control or lack of power is what would turn her on. Yeah, because think about that. Like she choked herself, so it's like she's only getting off by having to cut off oxygen to her body just so she can get off. And then he does a very similar thing to her. Oh, wow. But nobody in her life would ever do something like that to her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 So I think that might be what they- Yo, dude, that's why I also think specifically young stars, it's so difficult because they don't have the opportunity to build real friendships before they're famous. Because if you can build real friendships before you're famous or on the way up, you can have a level of honesty with people. If you're famous at 14, you have friends, but nobody even knows what's going on at 14 years old. You don't even know if you like each other. You just both like the fact that you make jokes about the teacher in math class. There's not a lot of real connective tissue there.
Starting point is 00:47:55 So you don't have the opportunity to build those real friends. And then all the friends that you make in your early adult years, you're like, do these people only like me because I'm successful? Yeah, exactly. Oh, man. Man, you don't even know who you are, really. 100%. We all thought we knew
Starting point is 00:48:11 who we were at 19, 20, 21. We had no fucking clue. And we didn't have people telling us who we are at 19, 20. Oh, yeah. We had the opportunity to find it. We just didn't.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah. You got your publicist telling you you're this person. You got your agent telling you you're this person. Also, your agent telling you you're this person. Also, all your friends are also famous. And when you're 18 and not famous and you say some dumb shit, your friends can be like, shut the fuck up. They will.
Starting point is 00:48:34 There, they're going to be like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. Keep doing that. And everybody's singularly focused on this one thing. And each person is almost like a lily pad on your way there. one thing and each person is almost like a lily pad on your way there. So it's like, you don't know if that's a true friendship or if it's being around you as clout. Yeah, the insecurity you must feel. I understand why a lot of them probably abuse drugs. It's just like to ease that anxiety. Every interaction, you're anxious. Everything you tell somebody,
Starting point is 00:49:03 you're like, oh my God, are they going to tell that to TMZ? Imagine how many times you get your heart broken by the people you trust the most. And you just have no trust for anybody. That's also probably why it's hard to make these relationships work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Because just from, you don't trust anybody? Like how do you, everything seems transactional. Everybody seems like they want something from me. Why would I trust you to be different? Just because you're famous too?
Starting point is 00:49:26 No, you're narcissists just like me. You're probably getting some out of this just like me. It's tough, dude. It's not like they're such victims and it's a hard life, but that aspect, that ain't easy. Bro, you can see why God is helpful. If you're very religious, you know what I mean? Because you have someone you're very religious oh yeah you know what i mean because you have someone who tells you no yeah right there's at least one person yeah who's like no bad you're doing this wrong and you are told as a famous person by everybody on your team you're
Starting point is 00:49:57 the biggest person but god is if you're religious god is always exactly everything i do serves god and then these guys everything they do serves me. If I don't have God, whether it's people actually do that or not, or religion gets applied, but the theory of God. Comparing it to with God or without is what I'm saying. If you knew your kid wanted to be famous, make him a Catholic or something. Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, like just give them something Hindu, but just like lock that in as well. So there's something that is
Starting point is 00:50:32 grounding for them. Like Rami is a great example. Rami is super religious. And if you talk to Rami, you don't get the sense that he's like angling or narcissistic or any, he just so it's all serving God. And there's this groundedness to him that you really admire. And that's a guy who does religion correctly, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Also, you're, ideally, you're imam, you're pastor,
Starting point is 00:50:54 you're, what is the Jewish ones? What are they called? You're rabbi. Rabbi. That's my dad. No, no. That's my dad. The rabbi, like, ideally, like,
Starting point is 00:51:03 they don't care about your fame. They're going to be impressed by your fame. Don't get me wrong. But not more than they're impressed by God's fame. So it's like, not all of them. People are flawed. But if you have a good one that's like, listen, the biggest celebrity of my life is God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:21 It's cool that you do this thing and shit, but that's the biggest celebrity in my life. Yeah. My life is God. Yeah. It's cool that you do this thing and shit, but that's the biggest celebrity in my life. Yeah. And so when you're acting wild,
Starting point is 00:51:27 he's going to sit you down and be like, yo, you know, like, let's, is this the guy that you want to be? Is this the person you want to be? Is this a girl that you want to be? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:34 It's an advantage. And that's probably why these guys seek out spiritual advisors. Cause you need somebody. And again, people can misuse it. A lot of these Scientology, it's all these things that are're craving some sort of normalcy. Somebody to sit you down and say, hey, man, are you serving something larger than yourself?
Starting point is 00:51:49 Because we all want to feel like we are. Yo, sorry. Speaking of Scientology, you heard my man was raping? Yeah, hi, dude. Yeah, Danny Masterson. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was method, bro. My man was keeping his 70s, bro. He was keeping, bro. I mean, it was keeping his 70s, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:06 He was keeping his 70s. He was super 70s. Bro, that trial's been going on for 20 years, I feel. They've been out there forever, bro. They were out there so long, I'm like, yeah, he had to have been. Yeah, it keeps going, right? Yeah, it's crazy. Apparently, they had insiders from Scientology testify at the trial or something like that, that basically were
Starting point is 00:52:25 saying how Scientology was trying to help cover up the story and silence the accusers or whatever. Yo, that is great marketing for Scientology. People act like it's bad, but it's great. We will hold you down. Think about it. Think about- Yeah, that's horrendous. That's horrible.
Starting point is 00:52:42 That's horrendous. Everybody already thinks Scientology people are the weirdest people on the planet, right? Like, nobody is going, ah, they're just normal, like, religious folks. I think you're only speaking from a man's point of view, to be honest, and I don't normally criticize that. But I don't think a woman is going to be like, yo, they be letting you rape in this moment. I gotta get there. But what if she's thinking, oh, if they'll defend a rapist, they'll defend me when I get a
Starting point is 00:53:05 D.Y. Yeah, but I might get raped and then they're gonna cover up the rape. I'm assuming he didn't do that to Scientology girls. I'm assuming he did to whoever. I'm assuming this is when he was a fuckboy in Hollywood running around with, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:22 So this is pre-Scientology, or this is like, I'm getting into Scientology, but I'm still a fuck boy and I'm still doing a party scene because he was doing a party scene with the Yo Mama with Fez or whatever. Wilmer Valderrama.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah, right? And it's like- Don't put that on Fez, bro. Yeah, I don't know what Fez did. No, but Fez did. And again, I'm not saying how it went down, but Fez fucked everybody.
Starting point is 00:53:43 His list of celebs he fucked is crazy. Really? It's crazy. Especially for where he was. I didn't know that. Yeah, Boomerhead game. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:53:51 The roster is bananas. He ran it down on Howard Stern one time, and it's like, yo, this guy fucked everybody. He had a nice run. A successful Latin lover released on Hollywood. Also, weirdly, before him, Scott Baio fucked everybody. That's not weird at all. Okay, I didn't get it. Heio fucked everybody. That's not weird at all. Okay, I didn't get it. He was a stud.
Starting point is 00:54:08 That's Charles in Charge. Put some respect. Yeah, it was one of the greatest shows ever. I liked Charles in Charge, right? Charles of our days and our nights. I don't remember the song, but... Charles in Charge. This guy?
Starting point is 00:54:22 And our nights. This guy. Yeah, handsome motherfucker. This guy fucked This guy. He's got fucked everyone, dude. He looks like Bob Saget's kid. Yeah, he does. Where does lips go? He got the man shoes right there. It's too fucking cold in here, Doug. Can you please?
Starting point is 00:54:36 He got the man shoes, right? You better start looking like Lily Rose. So I might show some side titty on the next episode. Do you think they just always like that or before the scenes they take some ice?
Starting point is 00:54:51 That's a lot of ice. Can I be honest with you? They used to be regular. That was one of the things that stopped her and me too, which is wild they even had this. But they stopped having girls ice their titties before scenes.
Starting point is 00:55:05 That used to be before every scene, get your titties hard, director. Every scene? Every scene. Of every movie? Look at every scene where there's a- Schindler's List? This movie? Scarlet, look at every scene. He's being method Hollywood right now, like old school Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Every scene of every movie. Every scene, obviously of movies where there's an attractive lead. White t-shirt, hard nipples. You can't find a soft nipple. That's the Jennifer Aniston shit. Jennifer Aniston. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Friends all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Every single scene. They know what they're doing. It was getting in there. Bing. It was getting in there. Dove, can you confirm? Attest to this? The director was like, yo, perk it up.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah? I mean, yeah. So before intimacy coordinators, it was whatever director, whatever they said. Oh, that shit's a real thing, that intimacy coordinator. It makes so much sense to have it. I mean, it sounds crazy, but it's like, oh, this is a pretty intense thing.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Can I tell you something? People are going to fake fuck, yeah. Real quick, there's a scene in it, right, where she's, according to her NDA, she's not allowed to be nude. And this is in the idol. Contract. Contract, yeah. Clothes, a nudity cloth. They called her her nude rider.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Yeah, the nude rider. So she's not allowed to be like fully nude, you can say side titty or whatever. And she wants to go nude. She's like, it's my body, I'm making the decision, I wanna do it. And then the guy who was the- Intimacy coordinator. Intimacy coordinator goes, that's fine, but it takes 48 hours for that decision to go through, so we'd have to shoot later. And at first, you're like, this is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:56:38 This is this girl's body. Why can't she do what she wants with her body? And then they explain it, which is, we need to make sure you're not being coerced. And I thought it was kind of a cool look into it because at first I was like, yo, wow, there's this rule here
Starting point is 00:56:51 that is completely robbing this woman of her agency, but it's actually to protect the girl from making a decision while she's drunk or all these other things. So somebody's fucking, these rules are good.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah, I've seen that on a set before and the actor will be like, they don't want to let that, you know, just a sex scene that doesn't need to be fully nude. They're like, why does it need to be this? Nobody asked me that shit.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Nobody asked me that shit for my gay scene. Wait, there was no intimacy coordinator? There was no intimacy coordinator. He was pre-me too. But also, he wanted it. He did. He was actually asking 48 hours yeah so fuck that yo can we talk about this alien there's aliens every time we could we shouldn't have started
Starting point is 00:57:40 with the idol bro why because now you can't think about anything else. Deadpools, bro? Yeah, they're out of this world. Let's talk about the aliens, bro. Yes, let's go. This UFO guy? He got nipples? Yeah. Do you know about this? No. So basically, there's this guy that works high up. I forget exactly which agency he worked in, but apparently
Starting point is 00:58:00 and I guess his credentials. David Grush. Air Force veteran. He's a former intelligence official and he was assigned to the UAP Task Force, which is the unidentified aerial- Either aerial or anomalous. Anomalous- Phenomena. Phenomena. So it's a new term for UFOs, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And so basically, he's coming out, and he's petitioning Congress to, I have notes here, that's why I have my phone, but to reveal the evidence that they have that we have actual spacecraft from aliens. We have wreckage and spacecraft that is, I guess, in its entirety. And apparently also pilots. Pilots, yeah. Whoa. That's the crazy part. That's fucking crazy. That's where it's like wild. It gets also pilots. Pilots, yeah. Whoa. That's the crazy part. That's fucking crazy. That's where it's like wild.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It gets very exciting. You're very exciting, et cetera. We all want to believe it or whatever. But here's the thing that he admits. He claims he has no proof. Yep. He has never seen it before. No, no, sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:59 He claims he's never seen it. He claims he has proof, but it's all hearsay from people who are involved with these agencies. To me, this is a guy who's really into aliens. He believes they're real. He's dedicated his life to become part of the Air Force. And now he's part of all these committees where he's thinking he's getting closer and closer and closer. And he just wants to know.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And then he heard some fucking rumor for some dude. Oh, we got spacecraft and we got something weird. Maybe it wasn't even spacecraft. It's just like, hey and we got something weird. Maybe it wasn't even spacecraft. It's just like, hey, we got something weird. I don't know what the hell it is, but I've never heard of these materials before. And I think he just flipped and went off the deep end and his obsession made him go, I'm this close.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I just have to know. I just have to know how this happens. It was kind of just- Why are we giving this guy any attention? If you don't got no proof. He said he has proof. So then if he hasn't come out with it. Yeah, why don't he come out? He's going to Congress with it because he is,
Starting point is 00:59:56 this is the thing where it gets a little goofy. He goes, sharing it would be a violation of, what is it called? When you have a special access, what is that called? A clearance violation. Yeah, it's a clearance violation. Shut the fuck up, bro. You dry snitching. But he gets a congressional pardon. He's able to be protected as a whistleblower if he brings it up through Congress. Whereas if he just leaks it, then he can go to prison. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Whatever, dog. So my man wants to know. So when Congress says no, then he just don't do it? Yeah. But also, what happened to the trust in the people that we hired to work for these agencies? If you're part of the men in black, don't tell motherfuckers that you work for them. That's part of the job. You get to know about the aliens, or you get to know about what the top dudes say you can
Starting point is 01:00:33 know about, and then that's it. Fall in line. Why can't they just tell us about aliens, though? There's no aliens. Cuz we don't have a big enough thing yet. Trump would have showed us. That motherfucker, he's like Andrew with a fucking secret. Maybe they didn't tell Trump. Yeah. would have showed us. That motherfucker, he's like Andrew with a fucking secret.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Maybe they didn't tell Trump. Yeah. You know why I think they can't tell us? Maybe David Gorsh knew it, but Trump didn't. Think about that. Fuck out of here. I don't think the president knows everything. I don't believe they tell the president everything. I think they're also selective with who the president is.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Like, these guys aren't like, here's the protocol, the president gets to know everything. Yeah, but anybody who didn't do anything Trump wanted, he fired him. Got rid of Comey, he's like, ah, you got to look. Isn't that what you do when you're the boss? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but they can also just lie to him. Yeah, but they could just lie to him and be like, no, there's nothing. Yeah. We'll tell you some stuff, but there's nothing there.
Starting point is 01:01:20 It's very easy to lie to somebody. What's the first question you ask him when you're president? Who kills JFK so I can know who's getting me? Do you really want to know about that? I do think it was Oswald, but I'm curious. You think it was Oswald? Yeah. I don't care about that JFK shit, man.
Starting point is 01:01:38 You're so passionate about this. That's not even my first question. What's your first question? Where are the aliens at? You want to know aliens? That's yours? Aliens would be far because that has so many geopolitical implications. It's like, my first question. That's not even my first question. What's your first question? Where are the aliens at? You want to know aliens? That's yours? Aliens would be fired because that has so many geopolitical implications. It's like, okay, shit.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Now we have spacecraft. Are we using it? What's going on? Oh, no. Al, what's your first question? Where's Monica? Great. I was like, yo, where'd Bill get topped off?
Starting point is 01:02:00 Jesus. Jesus. He knows me. Yeah. Where'd that happen? I mean, the point is the question, will they actually tell you the truth, though? Yeah, where that happened. Is the question will they actually tell you the truth though? Yeah, they'll tell you the truth. They have to. It's three wishes.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Hypothetically, yes. It's three wishes. You have three things. They go listen, we'll tell you three things. You ask three things, we'll tell you the answer. And the answer might be no. You might ask are there aliens? They go, we don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But that is the truth. You have three things you can get the truth for. What do you ask? Who actually runs it? Who's actually running this whole thing? That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Now, you have to be careful because you might learn some of these things by being president. I imagine if you're president, you're going to interface with the people who are actually running the country. Yeah. So don't waste one of your wishes on that. But you get brought into the room immediately. Three things you can know. What about like what's the technology coming?
Starting point is 01:02:55 Like 15, 20 years. They're wildly at it. In 15, 20? Or what do we have now that nobody knows about technological technology? Yeah, in my mind, those are one and the same. Like what we have now that nobody knows about technological, technological. Yeah, in my mind, those are one and the same. Like what we have now that nobody knows about is going to become technology that is available to people in 15, 20 years. Okay, so you want to know what is our. What's our most high tech shit that nobody knows about.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Okay. Okay, that's fire. That's fire. Al, anything else? No follow ups? Come on. It's the important thing. Where Trump gets hopped off.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I would want to know JFK, who killed JFK. Thank you. I want to know the Epstein shit. I'm interested in that. I'm like, just explain the whole Epstein thing, who's connected. Why was he doing it? Yeah, break the whole thing down. Break the whole thing down.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah, that'd be good. I just want to know it. I just want to know. It's annoying, It's right there. How much does Alex Jones write about? How about that? That's a good question. You see the island got sold? Epstein's Island?
Starting point is 01:03:53 Bro, this is crazy. Some dude bought it for a couple mil. Wild. And bought it from who? I guess it maybe got surrendered to the government or something. I don't know how it worked. But he was able to buy it, and now he's trying to resort. I mean, wasn't it not part of the U.S.? That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah, I think it was the Virgin Islands. Yeah, so who would they buy it? Oh, no, it's not. Not for long. Yeah, I guess the Virgin Islands is a municipality of England or some shit. I think. It was British Virgin Islands and the U.S. I think it was British.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I don't know. Anyway, yeah, that's a wild i mean whoever buys it they have to make sure there's nothing they before them the they's here have to make sure that there's nothing left on that island like i'm sure we've had american soldiers on the island right looking for all yeah i'm sure they sweep the entire the entire i mean there's videos of just people going to it. I've seen a couple of those on YouTube. They'll fly a drone over it and just snoop around.
Starting point is 01:04:50 But I'd like to know that. That'd be cool. That seems like the biggest conspiracy of our generation. You're going to know all the kiddie fuckers. You might be one right next to you. I mean, oh. Am I being powerful? If I'm fucking kids, that's not to you. I mean, oh. Am I being powerful or not?
Starting point is 01:05:06 If I'm fucking kids, it's not on Epstein's Island, bro. You gotta start somewhere. It's the diocese. Yeah, someone bought it for $60 million and they want to make a resort out of it. That's crazy. You even, one article,
Starting point is 01:05:19 like, oh, where's the resort? Oh, it's Epstein's Island, but you know. I have a question about that. Like, how long, how much time has to pass before we forget something awful happened in an area and we could put something fun there yeah as soon as I can get a deal on it yeah exactly literally it was a huge right answer so yeah I would but making a resort is crazy because so many people can make the judgment of it if it
Starting point is 01:05:41 was just your you got a deal you're flattening the house and redoing it and that's your island now? If a woman got raped in the apartment before you, but because that happened, you got a discount on it. Are you not sleeping on it? I'm not doing it. But he would. I'm not doing it. No broker fee? I'm doing it immediately.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I'm not doing it. What happened there previously doesn't matter. No, that shit is foul. There's a bad energy in that place. We're not a god in energy. You're in America right now. Yeah, we're all in Indian bones. All the bad energy that goes on in. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:06:11 A certain amount of time, we forget about what happened. If it happened in my, I was thinking this. If it happened, when you asked, if it happened in my lifetime, I'm not going to be cool with it. My kids will probably be cool with it. Their kids will for sure not give a fuck about Epstein's Island. So it's the next generation. We'll be like, yeah, it's not that big of a deal. And the generation after will absolutely not give a fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:30 No. I mean, this is a horrible thing to say, but like, on all those islands in the Caribbean, there was absolutely disgusting amounts of slavery. You know what I mean? Like, repulsive. I mean, I grew up in Texas, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And then all those places where there You know what I mean? Like repulsive. I mean, I grew up in Texas. Yeah. Yeah. And then all those places where there were sugar cane plantations and just awful slavery are now resorts. So there's a certain amount of time where you can put a resort over a tragedy. Also, in the house is different. Like living in a home that was a plantation and it's the same home, it just feels... Yeah, you gotta move the foundation somewhere else. You destroy that house, you build something new, it's gonna feel
Starting point is 01:07:13 different. Can I tell y'all something? No, no, no. A couple lines of paint. Yeah. I could live in an apartment where someone got murdered before me, but a house would be spooky. But an apartment? If someone got murdered in the apartment, I don't know. Is it all the other apartments around you, maybe? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:07:36 You just feel a little bit. There's like 100 apartments here. This one happened to have one bad thing happen. So if you're a ghost and you live in a co-op. Yo, you're a broke ghost. You are a broke ghost. You loser. Come on, bro. What are you a broke ghost. You are a broke ghost. You loser. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:07:47 What are you doing, man? Get out of here. They're in the same co-op you live in. Yeah, but you could go through walls. I've got to sleep somewhere. Yeah, go live on an island. Go find a house in Long Island. Live.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Yeah, go to the Hamptons. Why are you holding on to this project? You're going to haunt the studio? Isn't that what they say? Ghosts are, we should ask Charlemagne. Aren't ghosts confined to the area where the thing happened? Yeah. They be saying that shit.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Move on, yo. This shit was never, you rented. You can't even, yo, you can't be a ghost in an apartment you rent. Yeah, you're on the lease for a little. You were out of here. You were out of here four years anyway. Like, no, sorry. If you got a mortgage, it's different.
Starting point is 01:08:23 If you're a ghost mortgage, then it's fine. If you own the home, you could be a ghost. You're entitled to that. But if you were renting... That's some white shit. Hey, ghost, why don't you just go colonize a new house? Yeah, I know. You deserve it. You got an evicted ghost, bro. Afterlife, you deserve it. Go get yourself a home. I'm not living on that fucking Epstein Island,
Starting point is 01:08:39 though. Did they say what L.A. Comic bought it? Or does that not... It's not out there. I'm curious. It's a Jewish billionaire. Of course he bought it or does that not it's not out there i just i'm curious swear to god do you think he bought it as like a cover-up or what financier steven dekhoff i'm like really founder of black diamond he's the founder of what black diamond capital black it just sounds evil yeah it just sounds so evil wow black is black? Yeah. Black rock capital. That's why it's black rock is the evil one. And black diamond is like just a bootleg version.
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Starting point is 01:12:28 So Skip leaves first take with Stephen A. Starts a show on FSN. FS1. FS1 or whatever. Gets the bag, yeah. Gets the bag. Supposed to be no-name channel. Nobody gives a fuck about.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Builds it up into viral sensation. Yeah. Finds an unbelievable talent in Shannon Sharp. Shannon is memes. Shannon is culture. Shannon is, I mean, sayings. His energy is infectious. I mean, he's just incredible.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Shannon decides that he no longer wants to be part of the show. Leaves. Why do you guys think that he left? I think Skip is insufferable after a certain point. I think there's a lot of shit you'll put up with because Skip will have the crazy take that you can bounce off of and you know how to play with skip you'll elevate your profile but i think and again i have listened to skip since i was a kid in dallas before he was famous he started on tiki wiki when i started he started like when
Starting point is 01:13:38 tiki wiki started none of those guys have really great experiences with skip overall right so i just at a certain point you're like you know you know what? I don't need this. Also, the ratings on the show weren't actually good. Clips would go viral, but the ratings on the show itself weren't that great. So I think you're just like, I'll just go to the mouse at ESPN. Oh, do you think Shannon has offered something over
Starting point is 01:13:58 at the mouse? I think he can leverage something good out of this. And he's like, I don't need to put up with this anymore. I think it's got to be a money thing. Yeah, I think for someone to leave, there's got to be money somewhere else plus a hostile work environment. For some reason for them to go and then some other way to get the same or more money somewhere else. I agree. But the combination of both.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I want my own thing. I could probably get a bigger bag someplace else. I built up my name. People tune into this show probably for me a little bit more like you see my memes go crazy and he has his own podcast so he's really doing his solo thing already yeah so yeah i think it's just a play for the next venture i think he probably saw skip as a come up from the beginning he probably knew what he was getting into
Starting point is 01:14:42 and then he i think that's why he started doing Club Shay Shay, which is his podcast early on. As he built his thing, he started building for himself very quickly. I'm sure people talked to him and he talked to people and he was like, alright, this is what this is. I know how to play with this guy. He'll say some crazy shit. I'll have fun as me. I'll use him. I'll raise my
Starting point is 01:14:59 profile and then I'm out. And I think Skip might be salty because he's used to using. Is he used to using? I'm like, I don't know. I think what Skip did was unbelievable. He built it again. Like, he built... First Take hasn't been the same since Skip.
Starting point is 01:15:15 They going through different hosts. It didn't work with Max. I think it's still the highest rated show on ESPN. Regardless if it's rated, it's not culturally relevant in the way it was with Stephen A and Skip. We can all acknowledge that. Here's where I give some pushback. I don't disagree with you or think you're wrong, but I think that generation still cares about ratings because that's what drives their salaries. Being culturally relevant at ESPN, they haven't figured out how to monetize that. So they're going off of who gives us ad dollars, ratings gives us ad
Starting point is 01:15:42 dollars. This show matters. Yeah, but one, I don't think the ratings are what they used to be. They're not. Yeah, but that's TV. Exactly. So what matters to me is the cultural relevance that you're going to get from all the clips going viral on Instagram or Twitter or different accounts picking them up, etc. To me, that's how I'm looking at a show being successful. And then they have to find other ways to monetize that. But I'm like, okay, this is success. And the reality is like, Stephen A is a fucking superstar, but he hasn't found that other person to bounce off of in the same way that he did. Stephen A, one of the best qualities that he has is his ability to condescend hilariously.
Starting point is 01:16:19 He is awesome at condescending. And he had the perfect foil in Skip, a guy who is saying absolutely ludicrous takes. And then this eloquent dude who is just condescending the shit out of him, right? Tell him why he's wrong and bullying him. And it was magic. And they haven't been able to replicate it. I mean, Max was too logical yeah steven couldn't condescend it just came with like logical facts every single time and it's like this isn't entertaining you're making a great argument i have to fucking agree yeah and if you
Starting point is 01:16:55 like it just didn't work some of the funniest clips is where people have cut up you see skip arguing against himself oh yeah have you seen skip arguing aaron rogers against himself. Oh, yeah. Have you seen Skip arguing Aaron Rodgers against himself? Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. If you can pull it up, it's like, it's not, it's unbelievable. But he's pure entertainment. Like, that's the way I look at him. It's like, he doesn't care about sports.
Starting point is 01:17:16 He cares. He is an actor. Yes. And he's trying to say the funniest thing in the moment. I hope Stephen A and Sharp aren't behind the scenes planning to do a show together. Because they won't. Because I don't think it would work. No. They have too much respect for one another.
Starting point is 01:17:35 They kind of play the same role on the show. Yeah. So it's like, who's gonna be the Skip? I mean, Stephen A needs someone he could be an asshole to. Yeah. And Skip provides you all the opportunities to be an asshole to him. Yes. He is an asshole.
Starting point is 01:17:50 So it's like, it was magic. And yeah, everybody else that they've matched Stephen A with, Stephen A is just so interesting that he's gonna be able to carry whatever the fuck he's on. I have no question about that. But in order to get that fucking lightning rod that was first take, I mean, you had to watch it. This is when nobody was watching TV anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Everyone still watched first take. Are you watching first take now? No, I wasn't watching first take ever, but yeah. What? You never watched first take? Because I was like, they're both just playing characters. As great as Stephen A. is, he still, I don't think he believes everything he says.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I know Skip doesn't believe anything he says. So for me, it was like, all right, well, I'll just walk to SportsCenter and see what's actually happening. But I know I'm the exception because that was the highest rated show on ESPN. So I'm not saying I'm right. Now, what I will say is I do think Stephen and Shannon could make it work. It won't be the same dynamic at all. I don't think so. But I think they're talented and smart enough to make it work. It won't be the same dynamic at all. I don't think so. But I think they're talented and smart enough to make it work.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I don't think so. It'll be different, but I think it'll be good. And also, I think Steven A, it's cool that he won't ever dog out Skip because what they did together. But he says little things. Even just him saying like, Steve, Skip came to me and begged me, let's do a show. I need this. We need this, whatever. And then he had a message to Shannon on video.
Starting point is 01:19:08 He was like, Shannon hasn't told me why he left. I have a pretty good idea. I think I know. I think Stephen A is taking little shots at skip. Like he's acknowledging working with skip sucks. Well, why do that after it's done? Cause you got to say something. Cause if you're in a shitty work environment and you never, at a certain point, you just, you say little things they come out it just happens ego unresolved tension unresolved tension
Starting point is 01:19:30 my guess more than ego but ego for sure he's steven a's great but he got an ego he'll tell you that yeah so i think there's a little bit of that hmm yeah i hope that steven a and shannon don't do it together i don't think that's the show i think think Stephen A needs a pompous guy to talk to. Mm-hmm. Who was that fat guy that gave horrible takes on one of the other channels? That chubby black guy.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Fuck. Oh. Came to your show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Whitlock. Yes. Jason Whitlock. Jason Whitlock.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Oh, I mean, that would be nonstop. That would be nonstop between the two of them. That would be fireworks. I think Whitlock has Jason Whitlock. Slammed on that motherfucker all day. Oh, I mean, that would be nonstop. That would be nonstop between the two of them. That would be fireworks. I think Whitlock has just made himself so toxic with some of his takes. Perfect. I think ESPN probably couldn't hire him.
Starting point is 01:20:14 We can't do that. But he would be so good. But exactly that. That type of person who's going to have incredibly strong opinions that Stephen A. could condescend to, and it would be masterful. But you have to be strong in those. I think there's a little bit that's happening that with Perk right now, with Kendrick Perkins. They found a little bit of a dynamic right there where- You see in the Reddick clip, JJ Reddick is trying to make a point.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Bro, it's amazing. And you hear this heavy ass breathing. JJ Reddick is on first take, okay? Stephen A, JJ Reddick, and Kendrick Perkins are on first take. Perk is not even on the screen. You just hear this breathing. J.J. Reddick is making some really smart basketball point. He's amazing. And then he goes, stop midpoint. He goes, Perkins, is that you breathing on the microphone? What is that? That's awful, dude. Stephen A. comes in. He goes, yeah, are you dying over there? What the hell is that?
Starting point is 01:21:00 I mean, sports commentary kind of needs less facts. Yes. It's inherently a subjective thing. You're debating people being good at sports. It's inherently, there's some data, but it's really kind of subjective. That's why it's fun, because there is no right or wrong. And so I think it's almost better. Who's the dude that was like, I'm taking Iguodala?
Starting point is 01:21:18 Who was it? Oh, Max Kellerman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the most illogical thing Max Kellerman has ever said in the history of his career. And it's the funniest thing he's ever said. And it's viral. Yeah, it's like you almost want less facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the most illogical thing Max Kellerman has ever said in the history of his career. And it's the funniest thing he's ever said. And it's viral. Yeah, it's like you almost want less facts when it comes to sports commentary. If we really want to call it what it is, that's why Skip's the GOAT.
Starting point is 01:21:34 No, no, no, listen. Shut up. Stephen A is the greatest in terms of journalism. Skip is the greatest in terms of creating an entertaining show. Because he did it again. He recreated first take with a guy that we all knew Shannon Sharp, but we didn't know him as a broadcaster. And another superstar emerges. Yeah, but Stephen A kept it bubbling even once that guy left.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Yeah, because nobody watches Undisputed. Every clip I watch from Undisputed that goes viral that I remember is Shannon. It's Shannon doing the thing. But Shannon needs, what I'm trying to say is he's the kingmaker. Shannon needs somebody to react to. What we like about Shannon is the passion. What we like about Shannon is the excitement, right? And he's finding a way to get that out of him.
Starting point is 01:22:24 You gotta give him credit, man. You can't do it twice. I mean, maybe the greatest B-Mike. Great, call him a B-Mike. But again, he's creating the show, right? He created First Take. Didn't he say, I want Stephen A. Smith? No, I thought
Starting point is 01:22:39 Stephen A. Smith had, maybe I'm wrong, I think Stephen A. Smith had First Take and he was like, get me on this show. That's the way Stephen A. Smith tells it, Skip like begging him basically. Oh, I thought it was, I'm not doing the show unless it's with Stephen A. Smith. That's what Skip said. I think they both have different versions. And then there was a little tension because Stephen A. Smith told a story like that, something along the lines of what I said, and Skip was annoyed by that. And then Stephen A. Smith had to clear the air and say, this is what it was or whatever. But his retelling is, I think Skip came to him and said,
Starting point is 01:23:08 I need to do this. But also to what I was going to say, the moments I remember going viral from Undisputed, with Stephen A. Smith, he needs to condescend. With Shannon, it's pulling out the fucking Henny in the black and mild and then just going, Skip. And that's not even, he'll do that with anybody. skip skip skip it's just him being a fucking character so here's my pushback on that he has a podcast where he interviews people yeah any clip that's going viral from that podcast is the guest all the clips that go viral from the show with him and Skip are him. And Skip is bringing something out of him.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Just like he brought the best, most entertaining version out of Stephen A, he brings the best, most entertaining version out of Shannon. And if there's someone else that they're gonna put in there, he's Belichick, dude. He's gonna bring the best, most entertaining version out of the person across from him. And it's because he's so fucking ridiculous. You ever have someone who's kind of like ball busty and mean to you and then it gives you that like that freedom to be an asshole to them too? And there's something liberating about that? Like there's sometimes people like really kind or nice or polite to you.
Starting point is 01:24:22 You're like, I can't fucking kill this guy. It forces you to kind of be polite. Be kind and polite. But the fact that somebody's coming in just being a jerk, you could be like, oh, I'm going to give all my opinions. What we've built with each other, 100%, right? But we bring out the best of each other. No, but you bugger right up.
Starting point is 01:24:38 You sound like Pippin talking about Jordan right now. So stop it. Stephen A is that dude. No, no, no, no. Stephen A is the greatest. I said it right to his fucking face right herehen a is that dude no no no stephen a is the greatest we i said it right to his fucking face right here i believe he's the greatest but skip best put it this way stephen a skip is steve nash everybody around skip is gonna get a way bigger fucking contract if you sit next to skip i'll get paid if you sit next to Stephen A, you might get paid less. If you sit next to Stephen A, you might get paid.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Max making less money. Stephen A could be Jordan. Skip could be Nash. Stephen A is Jordan. Okay. It's his show. I can agree with that. It's his thing.
Starting point is 01:25:17 He's doing it. But Skip, if you sit there with him, you have a career. Yeah. That's a kingmaker, a career maker. I don't disagree. And again, I don't like Skip, so I'm gonna be hesitant to give up credit, but I could see that. And again, I'm not trying to give him credit as what he says is true. What I'm saying is, he's gonna create an environment where you're gonna speak to him
Starting point is 01:25:35 in a way that is entertaining. And if you have skill, he's gonna bring it out of you. And he's specifically looking for people, I think, he's specifically selecting people that he feels he can have the most entertaining dynamic with. And so far it works. I give it up. It's like the clip that's going around that everybody's saying, oh, this is maybe the reason why he left was when they were talking about Brady. And then Skip brings up Sharp like, yo, you have to retire at like 30-something. Look at how he's playing at 45. And then he's like, yo, why are you going to take a personal shot?
Starting point is 01:26:11 It's like, yeah, he dug it a little bit and he knew he was going to. And that moment was like this beautiful, like vulnerable, authentic feeling, right? I'm just saying, Skip needs his flowers a bit too, for what he can create. Yeah. Not for the journalism. You can't be untalented and be that big. You can't be an idiot and get that big. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Twice, to your point. Got the bag multiple times. He'll do it again. And it's hard to get your flowers if you're the heel. A hundred percent. That's right, he's the heel. Yeah. You have to look at him.
Starting point is 01:26:39 If it's wrestling, he's the heel. And there can be heels that are unbelievably popular, but without them, you don't get The Rock. The Rock needs someone to go against. So the cool thing about Stephen A is he's a lovable anti-hero. He's like Chael Sonnen. He's the Chael. He's almost trying to be the heel, but he's so good and so lovable that you actually like him. And you need somebody, you need the opposition to be very specific for that. You need somebody who's like even more of an asshole. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I'm trying to think of like a comparison between, because I know there's been players and coaches like this with Skip where you go there and initially there's success. And then eventually this guy's personality will wear out with everybody and it's going to go up in flames. So this isn't the right example, but you could maybe say something about, oh, Terrell Owens back in the day. T.O. goes to your squad. You're going to win games. In the immediate future, you are going to win games. He's going to put up numbers. At a certain point, that personality is going to destroy the locker room.
Starting point is 01:27:48 That's just what he did everywhere. He did in San Francisco. He did in Philly. He did in Dallas. He's going to divide everyone, and it's going to be fucking up in flames. Your quarterback is going to have his best year. Tight end is going to have his best year. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:28:00 And then eventually, he's going to start calling Jeff Garcia gay or calling Donovan McNabb fat. It's just what it's going to be. And that's going to wear on you. But yes, that's going to start calling Jeff Garcia gay or calling Donovan McNabb fat. Yes, yes, yes. It's just what it's going to be. And that's going to wear on you. But yes, that's great. Great example. Speaking of little hot takes, did you guys see the game, game two? I did.
Starting point is 01:28:14 I did. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, yes. A little bit? No. We know he didn't. It was a good, hmm. At least you asked so he could say no up front.
Starting point is 01:28:23 He caught you during the idle, too. He went to him. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't hear about it. I actually did hear about the idol. I heard about you when ChatGPT thought about the idol. Okay, so Game 2 proves Eric Spolstra is the most criminally underrated coach in the history of the NBA. Unbelievable what he did. He has never won a Coach of the year award, I believe.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Oh, wow. And I think I understood that a little bit more when he had the super team and was winning the championships. I think it was very easy for people to just go, you know what? This is, you have the greatest stars in the league right now are on the same team. It's not Spolstra, it's the players. But his ability to maintain his team's position, and he's constantly playoff threat, and now to go from eighth seed to taking a game off of Denver
Starting point is 01:29:14 and specifically confusing the shit out of the Joker. Out of one of the smartest players ever. I mean, if you really look at what happened, they were switching in and out of that zone defense. What was happening in the fourth quarter? Jokic was turning the ball over, throwing the shit out of bounds. He was rattled. He was really, no, don't get me wrong. He had fucking 40 points. He had a great game. He had a great game, but he was rattled in the fourth when it's game. The fourth quarter, the whole Nuggets squad was rattled early in the fourth. Now they came back, but early in the fourth, you're watching that first half of the first fourth quarter. And I was just like, yo, they look so flustered right now. They look completely discombobulated.
Starting point is 01:29:55 And that's coaching. And that is fucking coaching. Also assembling that team, masterful. A couple things they did. One, if you notice at any point in time on the floor, they four ball handlers turnovers kill you in the motherfucking playoffs especially against a team like the nuggets that can execute right it might be five if bam is your center yeah because bam can kind of handle the ball and he can pass the only time where they don't have a guy who can dribble and pass is when the white boy's up there what is zeller or whatever his name is cody zeller's up
Starting point is 01:30:23 there besides that duncan robinson is your worst ball handler yeah and he's gotten he's still a guard you know what i mean like think about think about the knicks now we have some guys that can handle the ball whatever but in the playoffs there's certain guys that get it and you're like get it get the ball brunson just get it out of your hand son jalen brown that's all we were saying i love jalen brown i'll turn over Yeah, but can't handle the ball. Force him left. Force him left. Force him left.
Starting point is 01:30:48 That's all they do. So, and then everybody, or no, at least three guys at any point in time on the floor are knock down three point shooters. Yeah. Lights out, knock down three point shooters. And they, on the heat. Hot and cold though. Because if they're not hitting, they lose. And they, on the heat. Hot and cold, though. Because if they're not hitting, they lose.
Starting point is 01:31:07 That is a three-point game. This playoffs, outside of that game one, they have been hot the whole playoffs. And I think that they're just good. At a certain point, you can't keep saying it's just hot. Caleb Martin, Gabe Vincent, Struess was shooting his ass off. Obviously, Duncan Robinson,
Starting point is 01:31:20 one of the best three-point shooters in the league. And then, what's his face? Jimmy's going to get to his spots. Yeah. You know, and shoot at a high clip. And it's like they're finding ways to score and put pressure on. And then when you can shoot from behind the arc, it opens up the actual floor a little bit more because you have to defend further out.
Starting point is 01:31:40 You have to run around every single screen. Now you're going back door and then Duncan Robinson is getting fucking layups and dunks on guys. That should never happen. You should never have Duncan Robinson beating you to the basket. But it does when he's that much of a three-point threat. It's so impressive to watch. So impressive. I think if they win, it's the greatest championship run in the history of American sports. I don't know football, like European football, but I can't think of anything. Somebody brought up the Giants in 07. They were like a fifth or sixth seed. But in the NFL, you can get hot and win four games. And they had a ton of talent on that team and they kind of underachieved throughout the season.
Starting point is 01:32:18 The Heat have won seven game series against the number one seed in the East, the Bucks, who might've been the number one seed overall. Everybody thought they were going to win it. The number two seed in the Celtics, the number four seed in the Knicks, didn't get to play the number three seed. They were to watch Philly, no question. And now the number one seed in the West, Denver. And they're 1-1 with them. And convincingly beat them.
Starting point is 01:32:39 And they were down in the play-in game. If they were down by three with like three minutes left or whatever, if those three minutes don't go their way, they're out. They don't make the playoffs at all. What were they seeded going into the playoffs? Eighth. Eighth, wow. And they had to win a play-in game for the eighth seed. So they even played more games.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Have they played more games than the Nuggets? Yeah, because the Nuggets swept. They swept LA. They beat Phoenix in six, and they beat Denver in five. Think about that. Think about that. Minnesota in five. Think about that. Think about that. Think about this for a second.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Interesting statistic. The Miami Heat beat the Nuggets in high altitude. Yeah. That is something the Lakers with AD. LeBron. LeBron. Who else? Phoenix didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:33:22 No, no, no. Who else is on the Lakers? I mean, the Lakers had a little squad. Austin Reeves, D'Angelo Russell, Dennis Schroeder. The Stars are already in Brownsville. You know what I'm saying? Like, that is something that a Laker team could not do. And the Suns. Suns couldn't win a game.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Yeah, that was crazy. In high altitude. Booker and Durant. Now, I don't know how much of an advantage playing in Miami is because Miami basketball fans are not the best or most devout. It's just not like a cultural thing down there. But like still the fact that you take one away at home. Yeah. Now you took game two.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Everybody thought they would take game one because Denver would be a little bit rusty. And then all of a sudden Denver is just going to lock it in. And Denver will make adjustments like Mike Malone is good. He's a good coach. Really good coach. And Denver will make adjustments. Like Mike Malone is good. He's a good coach, really good coach.
Starting point is 01:34:08 But to see a team make an adjustment and visibly frustrate another team from game one and game two, I mean, like really confuse them. There were moments in that fourth quarter where Denver's like, what the fuck is going on? There were some late fourth heroics that kept it close. Jamal Murray just shooting out of his fucking mind. But outside of that, I mean.
Starting point is 01:34:24 So here's the thing I noticed with Murray. He is streaky to me, and I feel like he's less streaky as he gets older and more experienced and better or whatever. But he's kind of like AD on the Lakers. If AD goes, the Lakers pretty much win. If Murray goes, they pretty much win. Braun is always going to get his. Jokic always going to get his.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Jokic is the best player in the league right now, and I don't think it's close. But Jamal Murray, if he goes, that motherfucker gets hot, it's over. You're not beating him. And he only really kind of got hot at the end of the fourth quarter, and that's when they pulled it to within one. I have a lot of respect for Jokic, but I can't call him the best player in the league
Starting point is 01:34:59 if he's having fourth quarters like that. Like, this is the finals. Again, you have to see him the whole playoffs. I'm giving him one quarter off. Game one, this is Jokic. This is where I think the brilliance of him is. He had 27 points in game one. You know how many shots he took?
Starting point is 01:35:16 12. Think about taking 12 shots and getting 2.25 points per shot. Not per make, per shot. Kobe would get like a point a shot, and I love Kobe. But that was like, let's get at least one point a shot or whatever. It wasn't 2.25. And the guy is just incredible. And he had a triple, averaging a triple-double.
Starting point is 01:35:37 He's great. He's great. I'm just saying, I watched him play, and I was like, wow, that's really impressive to see a big move like this. He's always on balance. He's got great fucking touch. Don't get me wrong. Great court vision. He's looking to make the right pass.
Starting point is 01:35:50 And, you know, guys are scoring. It's hilarious. But what? It's like, this is the first time that even black people would give it up to this guy. And the fact that you are giving him that number one spot right now. He's the blackest. We can't say that. Y'all are sellouts, bro. We've never given it.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Even when y'all was talking about Luka this, Luka that, it's like Luka was balling, but nah, he wasn't that dude. Joker right now, son, this motherfucker, he might be that. It's undeniable that the best players in the NBA right now are white. Stop it. But that is a fact. There's nothing that we can say about that. The best player is white.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Luka's top five. The best player. No, Luka's number one. But that is a fact. There's nothing that we could say about that. The best player is white. Luca's top five. Best player. No, Luca's number one. Luca's top five. Jokic is number two. Tyler Hero. Tyler Hero. Is there even a good
Starting point is 01:36:33 black guy in the league anymore? But Jan is not African-American. Jan is Greek. He's Greek. He's Greek. He's Greek.
Starting point is 01:36:40 He's European. He's European. The best players are European. The best players are European. That's a fact. Three-fifths of the top five players in the league are European. The best players are European. That's a fact. Three-fifths of the top five players in the league are European.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Who are you guys? I thought this was America. So did we. We thought they were alcoholic. Let these fucking Europeans come in and bully us, bro. Come on, black people, step it up. What the fuck is happening here, bro? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Do it for America. I don't know. This is sad. This is really sad. This is our sport, bro. Immig't know. Do it for America. I don't know. This is sad. This is really sad. This is our sport, bro. Immigrants, bro, taking your jobs. Yeah. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Those are the real aliens. Fuck. I think Jimmy is going to neutralize Jamal. I did have that fear. I still think the Nuggets win, but that is a valid fear. And even the last position. Once Jimmy switched onto Jamal, it was locked on.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Jamal got a good shot off, and it looked good going up, too. I thought the D was so good, though. Yeah, he did. But I agree with you, though. I think that Jamal is going to be the difference maker. I think that Joe gets 40 whenever he wants to get 40, and I think he does it efficiently, and he's very impressive, don't get me wrong. But
Starting point is 01:37:43 if Jamal doesn't also get it up there, it's going to be tricky. Yeah, man. I, I think they will figure it. I also like, I don't know a ton of like X's and O's whatever, but like, I just felt like I saw a lot of blown defensive assignments on the nuggets and they're not a good defensive team, but if they can play decently, I think they win that game. Decent defense. Like the amount of just lazy D, I thought, on screens and whatever, wide open shooters, everybody's not communicating, being sloppy. I was like, oh, I think if
Starting point is 01:38:11 they fix their defense, they can win. And realistically, a lot of series go to 1-1 with two good teams. And even though the Heat are an 8-7, they're a fucking good team. So I think, I still think Nuggets in 6, maybe 7, but dude, the Heat are like you said, man, they had
Starting point is 01:38:27 the Nuggets flustered. They're just so well coached, so disciplined. I still think Nuggets in five. I think they take one back. They have to win out now. They have to take both in Miami. It's the next three, right? It's two in Miami, but if they're going to win in five, they have to win the next three. Because it's 1-1.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Yeah, you're right. Okay. Spider-1. Okay. Spider-Man came out. Everybody is saying that this is the greatest Spider-Man movie ever. A lot of people are saying this. It is the highest grossing Spider-Man movie in history. I think including cartoon and
Starting point is 01:39:00 not cartoon. Okay. So far, like opening weekend or whatever it was. But just look to make sure. People are saying it was absolutely amazing. Al fell asleep. I did. Now, why is that?
Starting point is 01:39:19 Not because it wasn't good. I was just tired, bro. Okay. Oh, man. But the parts that you saw, you didn't like? No, I think I was tired tired, bro. Okay. Oh, man. But the parts that you saw, you didn't like? No, I think I was tired going into it. So it's like I wasn't even all the way listening. You weren't locked in. Yeah, I wasn't.
Starting point is 01:39:32 I got to watch it again to give it a real. Is it possible you don't relate to it? A young black man, you know, having a relationship with a Caucasian woman from another part of the world. Is it possible that there's nothing there that you can kind of connect to? Was that why I was boring to you? I was like, bro, I lived this. I think you relate too much.
Starting point is 01:39:55 They might have to give you some money, bro. Yeah, you might be entitled to it. If Miles starts painting his nails, that's a weird thing. If Miles Morales comes in with painted nails, that's Alex. Yo, Miles Morales, a Hispanic black man. Wow. From New York. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:11 A Hispanic black man from New York has a relationship with a white woman. I inspired the highest selling Spider-Man. There we go. That's kind of fun. It's the best opening ever for an animated Sony film. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Oh, animated Sony film. Yeah. Gotcha. Because I think the Tom Holland, his last one, that was the biggest one. That was the biggest one. And that one was phenomenal. That was phenomenal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Yeah, he's great. Yeah. He's great. This one was, from the people I spoke to, it's a good, crazy cliffhanger. And I think the next one is going to be crazy. Do you know what the cliffhanger is? No. Why are we even talking to this guy? cliffhanger and I think the next one is going to be crazy. Do you know what the cliffhanger is? Why are we even talking to this guy?
Starting point is 01:40:49 I thought he was going to have a take. Did you guys see it? No! So why are you breaking it up? Because you saw it! I just, kinda. You know I kinda saw it. I saw Black Little Mermaid. What did you think about it? It's also very funny that Mark put Little Mermaid in the notes.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Yo, I thought the movie, my wife loves all of it, so we went and saw all Disney movies I have to see. It was too long, but that girl, Halle Bailey, is fucking incredible. Really talented. Son, the first song she sings, I was like, this is beautiful. I look at my girl, she's crying at the first song. I look at the girl next to me, also with a miserable boyfriend, this girl crying. I look at the girl next to my girl,
Starting point is 01:41:32 they're crying. One song in. Which song? What's it called? A part of what is it? A part of that world? Come on. A part of your world. I want to be where the people are. I want to see them dancing. Walking around on those, what do you call them?
Starting point is 01:41:52 Feet. Feet. Feet. Feet. Stop. Bro, who likes feet more, me or Little Mermaid, bro? Oh, that's a tough one. That's a tricky one, dude. Who wanted Little Mermaid to get feet more, me or Little Mermaid, bro? Oh, that's a tough one. That's a tricky one, dude.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Who wanted Little Mermaid to get feet more, me or Little Mermaid? How are the feet? Do they do a little thing? And is the reveal good? Not bad. Not bad. Just not bad? Not bad.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Are they Halle Bailey's actual feet? I think so. Is she old enough for me to discuss this? Yeah. Okay, good. I've looked into this. Did she paint the toenails? Yes. Whoa, did it come with toenail polish?
Starting point is 01:42:29 Disney not going to have her own. Come on, it's Disney, bro. Disney knows what the people want. You get feet and a pedicure? They're fucking fresh. Like a pearl color, I believe. Bro, can I tell you my joke? Can I tell you my joke that I made on Brilliant Idiots? You know how Little Mermaid's mom died?
Starting point is 01:42:47 How? Yeah, she did die. She did die. But do you know what she died from? No. Sickle shell anemia. Scotiabank Arena. Scotiabank Arena is the top 30 of LA.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Okay, so you love her ability. And I thought these people who are outraged at a black little mermaid, pick a different one. I get that you're upset that they're trying to make everything overly diverse. But like my wife said, this girl looks like a Disney princess. She's a beautiful girl, big eyes, like pretty smile, all that. She's always been diverse. I hate this argument. That's also true.
Starting point is 01:43:22 It's like they've always had fucking Asian or black or whatever Disney movies. I think the weird thing is when you're, there's this trend of taking existing characters of one race or color and switching them out for others. I think that's when people get weirded out. But nobody was like, Mulan, what the fuck is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if they did remake Mulan with a white lead. Fire.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Fire, dude. Fire. That'd be awesome. They should do that. What do you mean? Why can't it be white? What's weird about it? What's wrong with it being white?
Starting point is 01:43:50 You see how you walked right into that, right? Let him walk right into it. Let him walk right into it. But now I'm thinking, if that Depp girl was it. That's what I'm saying, bro. Good saying. That's Mulan. Good saying.
Starting point is 01:44:01 You tied it in with an old thing and everything. Bro, you said The Depp girl And I started to get goosebumps Behind my ears That was weird Stop it dude Stop it I wonder if
Starting point is 01:44:21 She does well enough where she Are we talking about Depp or are we talking about We just jumped off Yeah because let's go to what matters I wonder if she does well enough where she. Are we talking about Depp or are we talking about Loma? Where like. We just jumped off Little Mermaid. Yeah, because let's go to what matters. Let's go talk about Depp and them fucking lighter nipples. Dude, her nipples. Her nipples look like Bic lighters.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Look at them things. But like children of huge stars. God damn. God damn. They have to do something crazy to like get out of that shadow. I mean, Johnny Depp made some nice little. We're going to take a break real quick because you're getting your skin care right with geology, but you don't know that you can also get your hair right with geology.
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Starting point is 01:47:40 What's your take? One thing I thought was really cool. The goggles, it looks as if they're translucent, meaning you see the eyes. So if I'm wearing them, there's a mode where you can see my eyes. It's actually not my eyes. It is a projection of the inside of the goggles on the outside. And you can turn that on or off. Now, when it's quote unquote off, right? So, or on, so you can see my eyes. It lets you know that
Starting point is 01:48:14 I can see you and look at you because I'm looking at everything around me, right? So it's really Jarvis. Like remember with Iron Man, like you can have multiple screens going on. You can look at your computer right there and then it will mirror what's on your computer, because it's obviously synced up to all the Apple stuff, and then just pop it up into wherever you want in this world, and then you move it around with your fingers. All you have to do to, I guess, click on something is just do this with your fingers. And it's locked with your eyes. It seems that intuitive that it'll actually move. When Marquez was doing it, it was actually moving it around? They don't show him using it.
Starting point is 01:48:51 He's just describing his use of it. And I'm sure there's certain limitations. But it's not coming out for another year. Some of the goggles that are out now have the augmented reality where you can do that same thing. But you're doing it with a controller, I believe. Either a controller or you wear some gloves. Or the gloves. Yeah, so this is dope.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Yeah, he's like, one of the things he said is Apple's charging $3,500 for it, which is much more expensive than all the other goggles on the market. And he goes, but like Apple often does, there is nothing to compare this to. They're setting a price point because you cannot literally compare this technology to anything else out there. The fact that it's registering your eyes. So if you're looking at a certain app, it will, it knows how. Like if you're focused in on, let's say your music app, it will go to the music app that's on the screen in front of you. It's like you're looking at a computer, essentially. And it will highlight it in a way. And then if you want to click it, you just go like this.
Starting point is 01:49:52 It just knows where your fingers are, knows where your hands are. It's registering the reality around you and this fake reality that's creating in front of you and allowing you to interface with the fake reality. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Is this not a little scary to everybody? It's scary. Break that, break down the, like,
Starting point is 01:50:09 I think how much we're addicted to our phones, how much that takes us out of reality. I can't sleep for shit. A big reason is the phone. I know how addicted I am to it. You're just immersing yourself even more with this. Like there's no reason to not live with this all the time. I can just go wherever I need to go, do whatever's got two hour battery life yeah it's only gonna get better you know you're 100%
Starting point is 01:50:31 it's only gonna get longer it's only gonna progress quicker and quicker i do think that it creates um i i understand why you're scared because it enables you to live your life completely within a screen. Yeah. And sorry, one more point. There's been no study that says human beings are happier with smartphones. Yeah, but they don't care about our happiness. Yeah, they don't care about our happiness. But that's another reason that I'm a little fearful. It's like, this is only going to exacerbate whatever that is. We don't care about our happiness either. So what this allows you to do, it's quite interesting. It's like, okay, we've got nine hours
Starting point is 01:51:06 of phone time or seven hours of phone time that you're doing a day. And then I have the Apple Watch. So it's like, I'm always kind of part of you. This does enable it so that you can live within a screen your entire day. So you can put that in eventually. You could put these things on and I'm sure there'll be like really small versions of them. And you could put them on and you could go about your day. You can order coffee. You can FaceTime. This is awesome. You can FaceTime and what the person sees on FaceTime is a AI generated version of your face that you first do with your iPhone. So when you first are setting up the goggles, it creates this version of your face,
Starting point is 01:51:45 and that's what's projected. So you and I are FaceTiming. I got the goggles on. You don't see my goggles. You see my face talking to you, but it's AI generated. So it looks like you're out here just talking to me? No, no, no. You on your regular phone. You're not on your goggles. You just see me talking to you, but it's not me because I have the fucking goggles on. You just see me talking to you, but it's not me because I have the fucking goggles on. Now, it probably will feel a little bit weird. It's like, okay, I'm talking to a computer, but eventually it will look exactly like you. Does it mimic your, like if you're laughing, does the AI version laugh?
Starting point is 01:52:17 I imagine. It will get there eventually. Yeah. That's what that girl Sinead said. She was like, technology, the trend is that it gets smaller and closer to your body. Yeah. And that like as these progress, they will get smaller and smaller. Oh, yeah, you had aad said. She was like, technology, the trend is that it gets smaller and closer to your body. Yeah. And that as these progress, they will get smaller and smaller. Oh, yeah, you had a futurist. Futurist, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Yeah, futurist on Camp Yagnon. Yeah, Sinead Bovell. But she was talking about this, and she called us out four months ago. Really? On your pod? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like, this is going to happen, and it's going to progressively get better, and it's going to replace a smartphone.
Starting point is 01:52:41 So we're not going to be using our iPhones on a day-to-day basis, and this will be eventually what people are using, whether it's the goggles or whether it's just glasses or contacts or a neural link. Google tried it with the Google Glass, and it just didn't. Well, Google can never do hardware because they just don't have culture. And it probably was a little bit before its time. It didn't have the technology. I don't think people will walk around with a headset that's that big. What I can see them potentially doing, and apparently it's a little bit heavy and cumbersome right that big. What I can see them potentially doing, and apparently it's a little bit heavy and kind of cumbersome right now, but what I can see somebody doing is working with it. So instead of taking your laptop to work, you take that to work.
Starting point is 01:53:14 You know who's not looking over your shoulder to see if you're actually doing stuff? Your boss, when you have it all in your goggles. It's going to get more comfortable. You can monitor things. You can text. You can do everything you need in complete privacy right here. And you can see what's going on in your world around you. So it's not like you can't see what's happening in the office. You're not worried about somebody bumping into you or throwing something at you. I can see you, Alex, while I'm typing on my computer right here. And multiple people work. Sorry, real quick. Multiple people to that point. Multiple people work with two screens, two monitors. And you can have four.
Starting point is 01:53:46 I didn't think people would use this at the office. This will be the new way to work from home because now you can get rid of that big desk and get rid of the office space in your house. That you need the four different computers. Imagine you're one of these Wall Street guys that has three different TVs going on at the same time and a ticker on every single one of them and all your reports. You're tapping in between all of them. Now you can comfortably be on your couch, just have all your screens right here. Yeah. She predicted that this will change the way people decorate their homes. Interior decor completely changes because you no longer will need physical workspaces. You'll no longer need physical TVs. And then on top of that,
Starting point is 01:54:20 you're going to be able to walk around and you won't have physical advertisements. You'll have curated ads the way you have on your phone that will pop up in the world virtually as you're walking through. Oh, wow. And then you can take them off, and then there's no more billboards that are clogging up all over the streets. Question, isn't this kind of the idea of what NFTs was? Like, we're eventually going to live in this world, and the art will be in this world on these glasses. Oh, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:54:42 You might still have billboards. Cheaper. But those billboards can be curated to your specific desires and interests. Right, yeah. So there's just a QR code on it, or not a QR code, but whatever the equivalent is,
Starting point is 01:54:58 it's a green screen. It is whatever it is. A city would actually probably look uglier like this, or maybe they find a way where it can look beautiful, right? It's like the billboard itself can just be a piece of art when you don't have the goggles on. It also doesn't matter because we're all here anyway. They do that for soccer games where
Starting point is 01:55:11 the little banner that goes around the field changes depending on where you live. They'll change that. Smart. Smart. But they'll still be billboards because not everyone will be able to afford this. Most people actually won't be. So there'll probably just be more billboards.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Within five to ten years, though. All the legacy. It's only going to get cheaper. It's only going to get more accessible. Eventually, people are going to have it. But what I thought was really interesting about this is the... Oh, I forgot. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:55:41 I think the cool thing in the future when they have the Neuralink and then you have these things, so then you don't even have to do the whole clicking with your hand. It's like you're just thinking everything you want to do on the screen. Spotify, play this song, and you're just thinking in your head. Yeah, that's going to be the next shit. Yeah, but everyone predicted it was going to be VR, whereas that NFT space where things were all virtual, you're putting on the Oculus and
Starting point is 01:56:05 now you're just completely immersed in this quote-unquote virtual reality. And it seems like AR, as of right now, is the better bet, where it's an augmented... It's so much better. And don't get me wrong, VR creates way funnier videos for the internet. Like people fighting a wall and running into shit, freaking out.
Starting point is 01:56:21 Like a little rail over New York. But AR creates the comfort to actually work. I would feel uncomfortable if I was doing work in an office and I didn't know who was next to me, close to me, around me, anything. Yeah, that's weird. Like, you'd think that you'd bang your coffee.
Starting point is 01:56:39 There's so many things that could go wrong. That was my issue with the Oculus, just trying to watch a movie on it or play a game with it. I would constantly be like, is there someone? Right here. No, that's the thing. It has that setting already built in. Like it has the. What I'm saying is you can, with this, what we're saying is you can opt into it, but it exists also an augmented reality where you can see is augmented. You can see everything around you. Yeah. Yeah. So, which
Starting point is 01:57:00 I think is important for most of the use. Like if you're checking email, you're looking at all these other things, you want to be able to see the environment around you. If you're watching a movie and you want to totally lock in, sit down, you know you're not moving, lock in. And if at any point in time you want to see what's going on around you, you just turn it on. So there's a space for both, but this allows you to live your day-to-day. And then when you really want to go into the VR world, you do that and that alone. This is more functional for day to day. Yeah. 100%. And I think that's what Apple realized. Yeah, I think that's what Apple realized about it. Also, I thought it was really smart. That's what I was going to say. The fact that they're announcing it a year ahead of time. So it's not
Starting point is 01:57:39 coming out for a year. And they did that so that the companies start making apps for this. Because it's a different operating system. It's the Vision operating system or the Vision Pro operating system. You basically have a computer in your head. That's what it is. And so they're going to make their apps for it so by the time it comes out, you're not limited. Like when Oculus came out, you could play one game where you grab the fucking gun and you shoot the shit in the environment. Like there wasn't just a lot to do with it. When Oculus came out, you could play one game where you grab the fucking gun and you shoot the shit in the environment.
Starting point is 01:58:06 There wasn't just a lot to do with it. For me, I bought them, and then since I really couldn't do that much with it or I felt I couldn't do that much with it, I just kind of lost interest. This, it's got to be seamless. The second I put it on, I got my email. I got my Apple ID. Everything's ready to go. I'm watching movies. I'm on a flight with it.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Think about us when we're flying almost every weekend. Yeah, on a flight, this is amazing. I like the fact, and Brownlee pointed this out, but I like the fact that the battery pack is external because it takes away the weight. Off your head. Adding all the weight to the already heavy thing, fucked up. You have it external and it's just something that you plug in and then it can be in your pocket or it can be your backpack or whatever the hell it is. So then it almost feels like a headphone wire. Yeah. And then you can get two battery packs if you're going and you need more than two hours.
Starting point is 01:58:57 You know you're not going to be plugged directly into the wall. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So and Apple historically has done a good job of like making cool technology completely consumable by everyone where it's like, okay, the computer is like this niche thing that people are using in specific spaces. Let's democratize it where everyone can use it. Like the Palm Pilot and like work phones is like a very niche thing for like business people. Blackberry. Let's democratize it.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Everyone can get a phone. And hopefully this does the same thing where it's like, okay, the Oculus is cool. It's within this gaming community and people are using it for specific stuff. Let's democratize it. Everyone can use it for everyday life. So it'll be interesting if they can do it again. And if they can, I feel like this would be the third or fourth time that they've successfully done it. So what would
Starting point is 01:59:31 we use it for? Miles, I know that you're into the tech stuff. What are you looking forward to using the Vision Pro for? I don't know. That's the hardest one for me. It's cool they're giving developers a year
Starting point is 01:59:48 to use it because I remember when the Apple Watch first came out, they did the same thing. They gave it six months until it actually came out and then they gave it to a bunch of people to actually make apps for it. In the beginning, I was like, I'm not going to want an Apple Watch. When it first was announced, I was like,
Starting point is 01:59:59 it doesn't itch anything for me. So I'm excited to see what use cases developers come out for with it. Same thing with Apple Watch. In the beginning, I was like, I don't know if Apple Watch is that impressive. And now I'm like, yeah, Apple Watches are wildly impressive. Tax Call, the Ultra, all of that's gone really crazy and done cool stuff. So with the headset, I'm eager to use it.
Starting point is 02:00:21 I'm so eager to try it out. But I don't know the exact use cases yet. And I'm excited to see other people find those use cases. You'll see someone use it and go, oh, I need that. Oh, I can do that. Yeah. That's kind of what happened with me with the Apple Watch is I saw you guys using your, I think, competing with workouts or something like that. And I was like, oh, okay, it can track certain things.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Yeah. Alex, you probably use Oculus the most out of all of us. Well, I did, but just like you, I lost interest. Like this, I still don't really see a time I can use it, but I can see streamers loving this. Because if it can mimic your face, now it's like I can be a Twitch streamer, a YouTube streamer,
Starting point is 02:00:58 and it's looking like you're looking straight at me. And at the same time, those streamers are looking at multiple screens while they're pulling up stuff and all that so it's like if you can integrate that I can stream you're seeing my face I'm looking at this screen I'm pulling this video in and it'll be a much easier setup
Starting point is 02:01:13 than having a camera like and you have your mouse that you're doing all this clicking it's better if you're just running around I'm really excited for the content side of things like content creation and content capture. So it takes three dimensional photos and videos. We using all the cameras and outside.
Starting point is 02:01:30 Oh, that's right. That's going to be like, imagine we're taking 3d videos. Our, our kids are, our parents took photos of us on like film. And then we're taking kids,
Starting point is 02:01:38 pictures of our kids or future kids on like iPhones. And then like, it's going to be insane to think that like you're sending a video to someone and you put it on and you're like in the room watching Avengers end game with Tony Stark and his dad, that memory that he just lives. Yes. You're just in that shit.
Starting point is 02:01:55 And you get to put on the memory and you get to take it too. You can just hit the button and then it does the thing. I'm excited to see content creation. This is some old man shit to say, but it is very cool to see, and I wonder if past generations have felt the same way, but it's very cool to see technology catch up with the movies that we watched
Starting point is 02:02:17 that were exhibiting technology that was far beyond our years. So what we saw Tony Stark doing with Jarvis, we will very soon be able to do with the Vision Pro, versions of it. But we have ChatGBT, which is something that we can ask questions, get answers to, interface to like Jarvis. I mean, once they integrate their version version of ChatGPT with this. Think about that. Apple's AI. Let's call it fucking banana. What is it? Hey, banana, can you bring up my schedule for today? Schedule pops up on your Oculus. You're brushing your teeth. Move that thing to this thing. What over here? What's the
Starting point is 02:03:02 best way for me to get sushi before 8 o'clock? These things are suggested. Could you call the, maybe it can, maybe it can. Could you go on Resi? There's auto schedulers and stuff, yeah. It's going to be upgraded. It's going to be Jarvis. But what I'm saying is since it's completely seamlessly integrated
Starting point is 02:03:19 within your Apple world, everything can be done through Siri or whatever their AI function is. Whereas the other auto schedules, you have to go to that schedule and then it will apply it to the different schedules. Right? Like, dude, eventually we're just going to be apples.
Starting point is 02:03:36 Right? Is that the future? Do we just become the product ourselves? That's why I think the big loser in this is Meta. Meta's big bet was we're all going to be on the Metaverse. We're all going to be Meta. Facebook. We're all going to be in that thing.
Starting point is 02:03:51 We own, it's called the Metaverse. Let's just call ourselves Meta. So the Meta world, we'll just call it the Metaverse. It's indistinguishable. Everybody's going to live. Everybody's going to be ours. Then Apple just bodied these motherfuckers
Starting point is 02:04:02 with the hardware. And then they got the Apple App Store is Apple gonna create their content, movies, TV shows specifically for the Vision Pro is there a way that they can shoot it like
Starting point is 02:04:18 do you shoot it I don't know if this gives you any advantage but like shooting it wider than it really would be so that when you watch it with the vision pro you can actually kind of turn your talk about instagram no i'm talking about like the ted lasso and all the shows like so just utilizing 360 cameras more but then you'd have to light 360 which would be really difficult yeah but there's like on the oculus for example there are youtube channels that put stuff up that's 360 yeah you can potentially like that becomes eventually use ai to fill in
Starting point is 02:04:50 the gaps that aren't present yeah what would the rest of this stadium look like what would the rest of this and they i bet you they could just fill in a generic plate to be like okay i'm in the soccer stadium yeah and i'm only seeing this square but the rest of it would be this. Dude, you know what else they could do? They could shoot. They could shoot wider. I mean, things might start to get a little fuzzy on the edges, but they could shoot everything just wider, film everything wider, crop in for what the regular folks that don't have the Vision Pro would be watching. And then if you do have the Vision Pro, you can, with it, access the angles yourself just by looking on the edges. Imagine our podcast. Yeah. You either, A, are allowed to jump into each camera or there's one in the middle and they're just like able to zoom in and go, this is the shot I want.
Starting point is 02:05:38 I want to focus on Andrew. Oh, that's the NBA games thing. Am I suspicion those are people? Do you have a little space on the couch for everybody? I don't think people will actually you have a little space on the couch for everybody? I don't think people will actually want to do that, personally. I don't think people will want to be too immersive too frequently. I think, sorry, I think if they can find a way to do it with the person you want to watch it with. Like if we all wanted to watch a movie and we found a way we're all sitting in that bitch.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Or we want to watch an NBA game. We find a way we're all sitting courts, talking to each other, having the experience. We're all watching Game of Thrones, Battle of the Bastards, in the battle. Because right now, it's just going to be your headset, and then you're going to talk to your wife about it. If we're at it together, it might be we can just chat and have the whole thing. My suspicion is that most people won't do
Starting point is 02:06:17 that. My feeling is that they'll be like, okay, there'll be a screen where I'm watching things, and then there's also going to be Instagram and TikTok. There's also going to be my email and that's how I'm currently watching TV, which is like the screen here, but mostly Instagram and then looking up and then checking my email and kind of flicking through stuff. And I think that's going to be more what the layout will be. And it won't be necessarily as immersive and maybe that will be an option, but I think it'll be more like multi-plane with different softwares. Yeah, I do subscribe to that
Starting point is 02:06:46 because that's kind of how we watch things right now. Like right now, somebody has this on, they're looking at their phone for something and there's their laptop where they're working. And if they have these, all those things could be operating harmoniously and they could be tuning in to us, going back to their email whatever without
Starting point is 02:07:06 even clicking out of windows just simply just kind of looking to the right yeah slightly and that would be like the entertainment experience and then i think the work experience is like oh i'm doing dishes around the house or i'm cleaning or i'm going to pick the kids up from school or whatever and while i'm driving i'm able to kind of like see a profile of a thing or my email thread or my text thread and it's like i mean seamlessly integrated once once they have i don't know if they can do this legally but once the apple text thread. And it's like seamlessly integrated. Once they have, I don't know if they can do this legally, but once the Apple car comes out, then it's just a different version of that where you're, what is it called?
Starting point is 02:07:32 The- Probably be autopilot anyway. What is that? Yeah, where your windshield. Okay, so if you're on autopilot, you don't have to worry about the driving. Now your windshield becomes an interactive screen, right? And it's just your computer screen so you're
Starting point is 02:07:46 looking out if you want it's like that augmented reality thing but it could also have your movie that's up here your text coming in instagram all the other stuff ah when do they make kid sizes for this shit and i just you just see a bunch of kids sitting at the restaurant and their goggles like no that's i think that's when it'll fuck us up oh i think right now that like you don't believe that you can yeah like nothing can you i mean you were acknowledging earlier like i'm on my phone way too much yeah but i feel like when we start to interact with a piece of technology we're like oh this isn't going to take over my life this is going to do anything to me i'm an adult i have you know can make my own autonomous. It's once you see a kid scrolling an iPad nonstop that you go, ooh, that's an issue.
Starting point is 02:08:27 They look addicted to that. Watch a Coca-Mellon nonstop. And if it's the only way the parents can calm that kid down and it's like you see all these iPad holders, like the rubber little alien or something, they just hand them out. Yeah. That's for the plane. I will say this. Restaurants have gotten so much quieter. Yes.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Yeah. It is. I mean, they should. You know how they were like, you need a suit jacket to eat here. They should hand kids out. You need a rubber iPad. Yeah. You need your iPad or the kid cannot enter the restaurant. Also, I think the idea of autonomy is like kind of an illusion with technology and adults. I think they've hacked our brains so much that we think we're in control of when we look at the phone, we have no fucking clue how often we're on the phone. Because we're like, oh, we're autonomous. We're making this decision. How many times have you opened up the phone and not know what the fuck you're looking for? All the time. And you're just like,
Starting point is 02:09:11 why am I on this? All the time. They just hack the fuck out of our brain. That's why I'm also scared of it, because they are in there. They know how we think better than we know how we think. As dope as this looks, I still don't think it's going to work. I think it'll be another VR Oculus. There'll be a community for it that it works for,
Starting point is 02:09:29 but I think for most people, especially if you live with someone at home, it's like once you put that thing on your face, it's like that person's checked out. And it creates a really weird dynamic when you're at home. Great call. Great call. I walk around my AirPods and I have full conversation.
Starting point is 02:09:46 You can literally see your face. I can wave really quickly and get your attention. Now, if I'm watching something with this thing on, I either have to yell loudly at you or tap you to get you to check you out. If it's AR, it's like, oh, you can still
Starting point is 02:10:02 see. Yeah, but you're still looking at screens. They have to go in front of oh, you can still see. Yeah, but you're still looking at screens. There's a disconnect when someone has ski goggles on. They have to go in front of you, get in your line of vision. It's just not as immediate as like, yo, hey, Mark. I completely agree with you. That was the biggest issue with me when I got the Oculus, is that I was completely disconnected from my wife. And it wasn't an issue for me.
Starting point is 02:10:22 It was an issue for my wife. And I understand that. That makes perfect sense. So the way to fix this is to make them glasses. And the only way for them to be glasses is for them to start like this.
Starting point is 02:10:33 And then it gets smaller and closer. Doesn't this look like the first, what was it called? Was it the iMac? What was that like? There was an Apple computer that had like... The round one? It was a little bit round and it had translucent different colors computer that had like. The round one.
Starting point is 02:10:45 The tree was a little bit round and had translucent different colors. And it had a little handle on it. So the iMac. It kind of almost looks like the first iMac. Like it's a little bit like kind of round and big. And it feels bulky now. But once it's the size of your glasses right there. And it will fucking get there.
Starting point is 02:11:02 You can be in the. It's like your home. Yeah. Yeah. I think it just takes longer than what people think. It'll be five years. No, I think it'll take longer than that. 10 years?
Starting point is 02:11:13 Because they've been working on Oculus for 10 years and it hasn't changed that much. Fair enough. But. I think it's less. Yeah. Well, who knows? Who knows? Whatever it is, it will get there.
Starting point is 02:11:21 But in order for it to get there, this has to work. If this flops, they're not going to keep improving it and keep putting in the money for R&D. But if it does all right- That buy-in, that's steep. But maybe they price it at a point where they're like, this is only for the enthusiasts. Early investors. Exactly. We don't need this to be an iPod. We don't need this to be a iPhone. We don't need this to be that type of sensational breakout. It's priced at a point where just the people who are obsessed are going to buy
Starting point is 02:11:50 it and we can break even or make enough money where we can continue the investment and it's worth it. Because I agree, the price point is high. This is not like a traditional consumer good. But if the technology is groundbreaking, then the technology will persist. All of the Apple products in the beginning were more
Starting point is 02:12:06 expensive than I think you remember. The OG laptops, OG iPod, OG iPhone. That iMac was thousands of dollars. Yeah, the original. Thousands, thousands. The original MacBooks were so $7,000 in today's money. iPods were more expensive than you remember.
Starting point is 02:12:22 iPhones were incredibly more expensive. And super... They didn't have, you couldn't send picture messages on the original iPhone. Like there's things that people forget. I think I remember the first iPhone not being very impressive. It was impressive for the time, but when you look back on it, it's like, this is damn near primitive. So like by the third or fourth iteration of this,
Starting point is 02:12:39 you'll be like, oh, it's cheaper, ubiquitous, and I want it. And does more. And does a lot more. Yeah. It's going to be really interesting to watch. And does more. And does a lot more. It's going to be really interesting to watch. And also there's going to be other companies getting... Android has started pushing Apple into doing a bunch of shit that Apple didn't do. That's what competition does.
Starting point is 02:12:55 There's going to be other companies doing their thing now. Oculus will step its game up. Other new companies are trying to come in. They're going to go off of that, add little improvements. It's just going to keep pushing each other. Thinner, better, whatever. Maybe. We'll see.
Starting point is 02:13:08 Okay, guys. Anything else before we get out of here? This is one random thought based on what you said about watching technology that we saw in movies become reality. You think the only thing that makes a science fiction type movie stick around is we still haven't gotten the technology yet? I'm thinking of Back to the Future. There was another movie I was thinking of oh star trek star trek stuck around because we are never we're still we still can't teleport back to the future we don't have flying cars we don't have time machines and there's probably tons of sci-fi movies that were huge back in the day but now we got all that shit and we're like so it's not sci-fi yeah yeah yeah it's
Starting point is 02:13:42 just that's just reality yeah yeah and i've been Iron Man in 2023, or 2033, 43. They might look at it and be like, yeah, this is what we do. We have a flying suit. I mean, that's kind of how I feel watching old Batman. Like, you ever see, like, the old Batman movie from, like, the 60s? And it's like, I got a rope. I'm climbing the building. I'm like, that's not really super.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Yeah. I'm not. It's like, there's a guy, like, Alex Honnold does that, like, for fun three times a week. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah'm like, that's not really super. Yeah. I'm not. It's like, there's a guy, like Alex Honnold does that for fun three times a week. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:11 I've been thinking a lot about this recently with like every Marvel movie that comes out. It feels as if every movie or the new generation of these superhero movies is intertwined with different realities. This idea of the multiverse. Every movie has the multiverse tapped into it. Why? Why is there this obsession with the multiverse? To bring characters back.
Starting point is 02:14:38 So is it specifically to like re-infuse old IP into the newer stories. For the most part. But this existed already in the comics. But they realized like there comes a time where either the hero dies and that was the big hit. And so they found ways like, oh, you know this, we can bring the hero back by doing this. Here's what an idiot I am.
Starting point is 02:14:59 I thought this was like a theory that we all could play with now. Yeah, I thought this was new revelation. Oh yeah, that is possible, that there's infinite universes and I'm indifferent in every one of them. I think it's kind of both. I think it broke into scientific lexicon, like the idea of a multiverse. In my
Starting point is 02:15:16 opinion, it feels like it has reached society in the last five, ten years. So I think it's influenced culture, but it's been in the comics for a while. And the money, I think the money's greater with a multiverse, and on top of that, I think it's like influence culture, but it's been in the comics for a while. And the money, I think the money is greater with a multiverse. And on top of that, I think it's easier to write. Because you're like, when you're confined to this little parameter of what this reality is, there's only so many stories that can be told within it.
Starting point is 02:15:36 And once you're able to be like, wait, they can transport to a different universe where the laws are completely different. What is that term? Deus Ex Machina? Ex Machina, yeah. Yeah, it is that term deus ex machina yeah yeah it's it is that in a lot of ways it's like you're dead but you and another multiverse isn't dead and god comes through and saves you and now the story is different that's why it's like i think marvel
Starting point is 02:15:55 going forward it's going to be really hard for them to have like high stakes because it's like now if anybody dies they don't really. I don't like the multiverse. I mean, I have to watch this movie and I did like the other Spider-Man movie, but for that exact reason, I don't like infinite opportunities, possibilities. I like being confined to reality. Bro, I almost had a fucking mental breakdown. I'm doing a crossword yesterday with my wife.
Starting point is 02:16:21 And no, no, wait till you get it because it is bad, bro. It gets it's worse dude we're doing a crossword it's not even the sunday one sunday is the toughest crossword this is like a thursday cross midweek cross midweek crossword this is a run-of-the-mill crossword i cannot get this fucking word even though i know what it is probably a hard word no no no what was the description it's probably tough um? I honestly cannot remember, but I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 02:16:49 I go and it's the app so you can actually try each letter. You can kind of cheat. I go through every letter of the alphabet. It's none of them. I'm like, I found a faulty crossword. I'm like vindicated. I'm like, I knew I was right. I knew I was right. I knew I was right.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Okay. If there's no fucking way and I reset the app, I go back in. I type the letter that I think it's supposed to be. It's not it. I go, did I break the crossword? I try a number to be sarcastic. They put numbers in the crossword. So it was a year.
Starting point is 02:17:29 They're using numbers, and the way you spell the number, those letters count within the word. I'm done. Wait, so how do you spell a number? T-W-O for two. Oh, okay. O-N-o for two oh okay o-n-e for one so now those letters count in the spelling of the actual word this is infinite possible this is the multiverse there's infinite possibilities now
Starting point is 02:17:55 it's too many possibilities i start getting anxiety i don't even want to do this fucking crossword we all just hear the same thing. There was never actual numbers in crossword puzzles, so you would have to always spell out the number. He's saying you can put the number in. Oh, so it's the other way around. In that one box, you would put, let's say, two.
Starting point is 02:18:17 Oh, okay, okay. But the spelling of two counts. Whoa. That's kind of hard. So, for example, let's say the word is one up. One up. No, because that's like
Starting point is 02:18:32 there are ones where it's like bro, it's too sophisticated. 21 Pilots, the band. Petite Folles. Petite Folles, what is it called? They're appetizers. Petite Folles. Petite Fours. Petite Fours. What is it called? They're appetizers. Petite Fours.
Starting point is 02:18:47 Petite Fours. Okay? It was French appetizers, something like that. I go, that's Petite Fours. I know that. It's Petite Fours, right? I spell Petite. Petites.
Starting point is 02:18:59 I'm like, I got that part right. There's too many more fucking boxes. I'm like, they're not enough boxes for me to spell Fours. What the fuck is this shit? Petites, the letter four, and then an S. That's crazy, because that's how you spell that word in French.
Starting point is 02:19:13 F-O-U-R. There's infinite possibilities. This is not MAGA. We need to make America great again, bro. Where's's- We need to make- What is that doing to MAGA? To finish that- We need to make America great again, bro. Where's Trump?
Starting point is 02:19:28 We need Trump back, bro. What does Trump have to do with the crosswords? Honestly, this is the most disrespectful thing the New York Times ever done. This is fake news. This is fake news. This is the most disrespectful thing. You can't go into a crossword and now the possibility of numbers has entered. My brain shuts down.
Starting point is 02:19:43 It's not endless, It's just an additional. It's endless now. Because if you know the answer in my, I don't know, I don't do crosswords. But if you know the answer, then you would just. Well, if you don't do crossword. Then you just, I can't be F-O-U-R-S, so it must be number four. There's only one more possibility now. But every word could also be spelled with the number.
Starting point is 02:20:04 No, not every everyone has a number. But only words with numbers. Do you know how many different words could potentially fit into these things? Okay, so we are here at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys don't do crosswords, so you don't know. You guys are clear, clear don't do crosswords. The hints for the crossword are very simple.
Starting point is 02:20:20 It's like, be quiet. What's a- Shut up. Or silence. Or there's a million different synonyms for shut up, and any one of those can fit there. But you're like, if you only have enough letters for shut up, you would go, okay, well, it has to be shut up. Now you introduce numbers. But how would a number be- A five-letter word can be a nine-letter word. How would a number be in shut up? That's what we're saying. It's petite force. That has- It's petite force. That has what we're saying. It's petite force.
Starting point is 02:20:46 It's petite force. It has a number. Yeah. But it doesn't have the boxes for it. Why don't you get it? I get it. So your frustration is like, hey. Dad seems to agree with you. Frustration.
Starting point is 02:20:59 Frustration is agreeing with you. Your frustration is the letter four. That's why he threw it. He kept saying the letter four. That's why he kept saying the letter four. Here it is. But there were four boxes for four. There were two boxes. No, there was one. One box, four. And then
Starting point is 02:21:15 the end was S. Oh, they gave you the S. I had to find the S. That's insanity. Two boxes left. Petite's for S. That's insanity. Yeah, so I get that frustration. Let me make it more frustrating. If it was just one box- Then it makes sense. Then it makes sense.
Starting point is 02:21:32 But the two boxes that- No, no, wait, wait, let me get crazier. But now you know. Let me get crazier, ready? So now it's not that crazy. These make up a skeleton, what is it? Bones. I like this. Okay, but what if it's only three boxes?
Starting point is 02:21:49 B1S. No one would think that! That's wild. No one would think that! That's not an option, though. That is what they do now, Alex! One is in bones. Exactly, one is in bones.
Starting point is 02:22:04 No, that's not. No, no, no. They do it. You're justified. That's not. They do it. They do it. They do it.
Starting point is 02:22:11 My bad. My bad. It's disgusting. This is the first time ever he's justified in his stupidity. First time. I don't think they want to do that. That is what they have. You want to say why force doesn't seem that crazy? Because it's the number four. That makes more sense. B1S is asinine that. That is what they have. You understand why force doesn't seem that crazy?
Starting point is 02:22:25 Because it's the number four. That makes more sense. B1S is asinine. But that's what they do. Shut down the New York Times. Shut it down. If that's what they're doing. Shut it down.
Starting point is 02:22:34 If that's what they're doing. I don't think that's what they're doing. I don't believe they could be that fucking crazy. These liberal cunts are turning numbers into letters. I think he made it up. Nothing has an identity anymore. There's translators, dude. There's translators.
Starting point is 02:22:44 Bro. Nah, you justified, bro. There's trans letters. Bro. Nah, you justified, bro. I don't believe you, but you justified. What do you put on a lure to catch a fish? Feathers. Worms. B, eight. Bait.
Starting point is 02:22:58 They did that. No, they don't. They did that. Two letters. They did that. How do you catch a fish? No, because it's not even eight. It's E-I-G-H-T. And bait is not even eight is e-i-g-h-t
Starting point is 02:23:05 and bait is not spelled b-e-i-g-h-t i'm progressing the form all right they did one like that too no they didn't bro i'm telling you i don't even i don't even think let me tell you something i think he's lying al al let me tell you something right now i swear to god i've never been this frustrated in my life. I stopped playing it. I was like, you got to let me know if letters is in this motherfucker. All right, wait. What was worse, this or the guy who put the salad dressing from his keyboard?
Starting point is 02:23:37 Which one was worse? This is worse. I would eat that salad daily before I play another crossword that has fucking numbers in it. I mean, it just erodes all your confidence. You're like, there's no way I can guess this. There's infinite possibilities. I still don't believe it.
Starting point is 02:23:56 I'm going to spin around. I don't know what to do here. Get up the New York Times fucking crossword right now. Do you have it on your phone? You're a crossword nerd. I'm messaging a crossword puzzle constructor for the New York Times fucking crossword right now. Do you have it on your phone? You're a crossword nerd. I'm messaging a crossword puzzle constructor for the New York Times. He's a magician and enigmatist. These guys are wild boys.
Starting point is 02:24:13 Tell him. I said, fuck you, you dumb fuck. What did you just say? It's enigmatist. They're at the Kennedy Center. I tell him I'm so fucking upset at him for this stupid shit. Which day did you do it? It was like a Thursday or something like that. I can actually give it, are you at the New York Times app?
Starting point is 02:24:30 Cuz I could tell you the- I'm trying. You pull it. I'm on the website. No, it's the New York Times crossword puzzle. I actually looked up the people who did the one. Name? You found them? Yeah, cuz it tells you on every single one who the people who constructed it.
Starting point is 02:24:43 So- If Bones is B1S, that's a real problem. It gets more complicated. It was Bones was within. It was like the lovely Bones. And Bones was spelled B1S. I have to see it because in my mind, they can't be that fucked. They can't be that stupid. That's stupid.
Starting point is 02:25:03 They're that fucked. Nobody can get that. Nobody can get that. Nobody can get that. I'm sorry, what? I'm sorry, what did you say? Why are you behind him now? How are you thinking, got, got? He's justified in this one.
Starting point is 02:25:15 How are you thinking, got, got? If what he's saying is accurate, he's justified in this one. This is the first time he's justified in his frustration ever. Michael Schlossberg? Let me pull it up. It would be. It would be. It would be.
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