Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz's WWE Appearance, Israel’s PR Problem, & Sam Seder’s 20 v 1

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

YERRR Schulz got ambushed at WWE's Monday Night Raw by Logan Paul and it's now on sight for him, Ian Carroll is fueling conspiracy theories, Israel has a perception problem and, Stephen A has beef with LeBron. All that and more on this week's episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE 00:00 On sight for Logan Paul 3:00 Andrew still jumped on the top rope 5:37 Passing physicals + Face of Bad Sperm 8:18 Miles & Dave love story 9:44 Appreciating the Wrestling + Elite talent 17:15 Why is Mark lying? Never gonna WWE Champion 19:28 Macaulay Culkin was hype + Wrong MJ 22:05 Ribeye of the sky 22:57 Miles had a wonderful New Year's Eve 32:02 How much to reenact? 38:01 Feedback on "Life" 44:20 Overcorrection to Weinstein + Everyone knew 48:52 White lips + Dinosaurs aren't real 55:16 Menthols are amazing + Giving up for Lent 57:26 Sam Seder on Jubilee + Basis of our morality 1:16:26 Cuomo's comeback + Eric Adams is OUTSIDE 1:21:06 Ian Carroll's target 1:25:09 What are we getting out of support for Israel? 1:32:30 Perception is reality, Subversion + What is an Israeli? 1:46:55 Nuance is uncomfortable + Propaganda is dead 1:56:01 Hypnosis is fake + Mark's Show 1:59:01 Ye & Fake Rogan + Padel & Tennis holidays 2:04:49 Stephen A v LeBron 2:14:59 Ukrainian ceasefire + Conspiracy is king Follow us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/join/Flagrant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Listen, I just got to start off the show by saying I did not know that that was going to happen last night at Raw. I mean, Logan mentioned that, like, hey, I might, like, point at you or something like that. And then this fucking Judas runs up on me and tries to make me lie to everybody at Madison Square Garden. If we were at, like, the Brooklyn Nets arena, whatever that's called, okay, I'll lie all day. I'll do whatever bulls**t you want for the wrestling, right? Not in Madison Square Garden. So I tell him the real, which I think you should do to someone who I thought was a friend. The guy invited me to his f***ing wedding last week.

So I have to tell him, like, listen, nobody's f***ing here to see you. You're not even wrestling tonight. His ego is so fragile, he grabs me, he pulls me over that front of my wife. That's pretty emasculating. I just put out a special about how my balls don't work. And now I get bent over a railing in front of my wife and in front of both of them both of my wife Clutching their pearls just a word man. If it's on a cycle That you didn't pull up bro. No, I was a little too far back and you know, we're far back

You were like second row or something like that. I saw you know too much effort Bro, I felt like because I saw you. It was a little too much effort either. Honestly, I felt let down bro. I felt let down. Because I had my boys right there. I had my boys right there and I thought you were going to jump in that rank. Thank God for AJ Styles. I mean you're a die hard wrestler. Thank God for that perfectly timed take by AJ Styles. Well when did you buy tickets for this?

Say again? You bought tickets for this? Yeah I bought tickets for it. I gotta check my calendar. When did you buy it? When did we buy the tickets for it? Yeah, I bought tickets for it. When? I gotta check my calendar. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we bought the tickets for it. Like months ago. Yo, months ago. Like the second it was announced, I was like, oh shit, Raw is coming out.

I'm going to that shit. Like when who was fighting? When Seth Rollins and I had seen it before it was announced. They were going to be headlining a Steel Cage man. Have you ever fucking seen a Steel Cage man live before yesterday? I've never seen a Steel Cage man. And it changed your goddamn life. Yeah, I thought it was Sega's hell to me. Yeah, so did all of us

That's why 18,000 people were there Okay, and you guys couldn't have my back you could have had your moment, okay He got brand new Air Force ones. He wasn't gonna ruin him for that Why don't you take off your shoes like that little Asian girl wrestler that came into the ring? Madison is going to get it! You know, it's the best. Mark got a video of that. That was cool. She was cutting her promo and she was just leaning into that accent. She was going for it though.

And she slapped the shit out of those girls, man. I like that kind of energy. You saw the jewelry fly everywhere? Yup. Yeah, it was fire. Yeah, I like that kind of energy. You saw the jewelry fly everywhere? Yup. Yeah, that was fire. Yeah, I like that kind of energy. You saw a dove reaching for it. What? What? What?

Jim. What? What? He's like that thing from Fantastic Beasts. Yeah. I was going to say that. No. No.

No. No. No. Anyway, now, Logan needed to get his, bro. I ain't going to lie. I thought that gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I historic record. I think I'm the only person in wrestling history to be pulled over a railing, thrown down on the floor like a rag doll, rolled into the ring,

put in a suplex, not officially suplex, and still jumped on a top rope. Nobody in the history of wrestling has done less to get on those top ropes. So you look at it, and he was like, fucking, I'm going to go. I wasn't going to do it. And AJ was like, yo, go do it. Go jump up there.

And I was like, I ain't going to ever get this opportunity. Not worth it, though. It was worth it. Me and Miles was like, oh, man, he's going to hurt himself jumping down. I was like, he's going to pull something when he jumps down. There's a moment where I thought I was gonna catch my foot

on the way up. I didn't know if you jump on the top rope or the second rope. And I was like, I thought about the top rope, I was like, ain't no way I can bounce on that motherfucker. I actually kinda like went like this one. And he went face forward off it. Scorpion. They got a stretch to stretch her mouth.

He would have left looking like Rey Mysterio. Thanks to fuckers. There was a match, I don't know if y'all saw that, when Rey Mysterio, he did that, like jumped off the thing. Is it really him? I think it's like Shamu. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know how like Shamu, they would flip out with another Shamu, but they don't speed? Oh yeah, yeah? I figured that. Yeah, exactly. So they hit a fucking home depot, you know, whatever, and then you get one whatever city you're in. That's the mystery. That's the mystery.

You never know who's under there. There's no way. That motherfucker is incredible. That dude's like 50 years old. And he did that one move, I don't know if anybody saw it, I thought they were gonna stop the match. He did this one move where he like flips off and he is like, ankles are supposed to go on the guy's neck

and then flip the person. Okay, yeah. He was on like the top. Oh yeah, yeah. He does it, but when he's coming down, he hits his neck on one of the ropes. Oh shit, oh I missed that. And like his head slams back.

Yeah. And I was like, oh he's dead. Just 100% dead. Son, so many times last night, I was blown away. Careful reaction. I was blown away. I was blown. I felt like I was at a Bonnie Blue meetup.

There was like, rooms everywhere. When they're doing the punches and shit, you're like, all right, that's not where they look real. Like, whatever. But any time they're jumping off a ship, it is insane. Yeah. Like you still gotta land from 10 feet in the air. I don't know how these guys, I mean I'm 41 years old,

there's no way I could do this and then do anything the next day. Yeah. I mean you rolled into the ring pretty good. My hip hurt, I did PT this morning. You're feeling it? Say what? Are you like, you feel good?

Tell me I'm all right, I'm all right. You look fucked up. Because he passed the physical feel good. Tell me I'm all right. I'm all right. You look fucked up. Because he passed the physical remember? Yeah, I passed the physical. You had to pass the physical. You can't pass the physical to get in a rift. If you don't pass the physical you can't get in that rift. Exactly. Shout out to the New York State Athletic Commission.

Let's go. Sometimes bureaucracy works. Okay, protect the athletes. That's why I didn't jump in. I didn't want to get you in trouble. Because you didn't pass the physical. I didn't pass the physical. Hank, he did the physical. He didn't pass the physical. I know. Pussy, bro. Hey, hey, hey. Pussy, bro.

Big time pussy over there. That's crazy. No, I'm on a juice bet about juice. That's great. What was the last time you got a physical? Other than last night. I think I had to get one for Netflix. I told him that shit.

I was like, by the way, I already got a physical for Netflix. And then he was like, yeah, I think it might be a little different physical. How come physicals in high school, they had to touch your balls? Do you remember that? No, they never did that with us. Mark, tell us about what happened when you were fucking home schooled. Tell us what happened when you were home schooled about this physical you got.

So your priest gave you physicals? No, bro. It was not a priest. Every time I was home. Why is every school story so fucking traumatizing about you, bro? Did this not happen with you guys when you had to do physicals for high school sports? They would touch your balls. Yeah, if they did that, they would know

my shit was just sitting at the bottom. So I'm the face of sperm that sucks. Yeah, I know. You know how many dudes coming up to me on the street, like, yo, I got the same problem. There was a dude on a city bike that literally hunted me down on the street, just so he could be like, yo, my sperm sucks too.

What do I do with that information? I mean, you just dap him up. I did. It's like when you do an advertisement for AIDS and chill like that. Yo, fuck you. Fuck you. I hope you get that shit.

Chuck, you're a magic joss. You're a magic sperm, bro. That should be the marketing for Netflix. We should do a billboard, like an IVF thing, but just like your face. Shut it. Shut up, Mark, you piece of shit. You're a real jerk.

You're a real asshole. You're a real jerk. All those years you was complaining about how one bowl was just crazy big. Your sperm is great. Why did you ever get it checked out? Why didn't I get it checked out? Yeah, when you had that bowl issue for mad long.

Well, I don't know. It made for great content on the pod for years. Yeah, yes it did. But I think it's probably because I'm not like somebody on this podcast that tries to get his balls rubbed by every man in his fucking life. Oh, tell us about that. Yeah, tell us about that.

No, I've, OK, Miles. And when you were in high school and you did a fizzle, first sprint that you go through, Miles. Was it a Florida thing? I can't tell if you guys are fucking with me. It's not a Florida thing, OK? When you did a fizzle. Stop talking about balls before David comes in here and swabs them on Miles' nose.

No. Miles gonna beat him to it. He's not scared. Yeah, and David's in the building today so we can talk about this little gay romance that's going on. I can't wait. You gotta fill the people in for anyone who didn't watch the Patreon. Bro, we hired three women in the office.

I didn't realize that Miles was gonna fuck the guy who was already working here. Is that an HR violation? Well, I said nobody harass the women. I said specifically to all of you, I said, listen, there are women that are working here and there's gonna be no fraternizing with them at all. We need to respect, we have a rule. There's a rule, you do not fraternize with the women at all.

I'm a rule follower. Yeah. I followed all the rules correctly to the T. I did not mix this up. So what are you trying to say? I'm just saying you set a rule and I have not broke it. I'm a good employee. And then you are a good employee.

Thank you. You do no wrong, but are you having a sexual encounter with David again by any chance? No, there were no, I did not have sexual relations with that. As man. What'd you call him? As man. As man. As a nickname in a bedroom. As man.

It's like Mad Men. Oh, fuck. Damn, Miles. We gotta bring David in? Yeah, we gotta bring David in. We gotta bring David in because the people know, right? We were talking about a public episode. No, it was Patreon. Oh, it. Damn, Miles. Oh, we gotta bring David in? Yeah, we gotta bring David in. We gotta bring David in, because the people know, right? We were talking about it on a public episode. No, it was Patreon.

Oh, it was Patreon? Yeah. There's no way. It was on Patreon.com. Patreon.com slash flagrant? I think so. Oh my God, that felt like a shameless promo. That one exactly.

It felt like a completely shameless promo. It felt like me showing up to WWE Raw the week after my special came out. That was real good. Even though I bought those tickets months, when did we buy those tickets, though? Do you remember? 2022. 2022. You know those tickets months, when did we buy those tickets, Dove, do you remember? 2022.

2022, you know what's funny about wrestling? Wrestling fans are like, I actually really like this about wrestling. So back in the day, there was this illusion that like wrestling wasn't scripted and all these like punches were landing, whatever. Now the base is so acutely aware that it's scripted. Now you don't have the facade, there's no like thing,

there's no lie that needs to be told. Now you get to get them on story. But they appreciate, they know all the terminology. They know like baby face, they know heel, they know all that kind of stuff. They know like when you get a move done on you, it's called a bump or whatever. So, you know, they're seeing this thing happening

and they're reacting to the thing as if it was a script. Which honestly really hurt me, because I didn't realize that this whole fucking thing was gonna happen in the first place. Yeah. But, and I felt... This is your close friend. Yeah, this is my close friend whose wedding

I was gonna not go to already, but now I'm really not gonna go. But I did get an invite. And it's on site for him. It is on site. Okay, but I do appreciate the wrestling fans as well, I'm trying to say. I was surprised to see the amount of adults there.

I thought I was gonna see way more kids. Like, it was like, maybe 5% kids. You realize Marc and I are the only people that have kids in all of New York City. And maybe there's two toddlers in New York City. And Marc and I own them. Yeah, that's maybe it. The whole way Al kept on leaning over,

he's like, yo, where are the kids, dude? Yeah, you're a fucking creep. I was trying to Yeah, that's maybe it. But that was surprising. The whole way Al kept on leaning over, he's like, yo, where are the kids, dude? Yeah, you're a fucking creep. I was trying to keep him away from this guy. I was trying to keep him physical. This is very strange. What were you guys' takes on it? What did you guys think about the whole spectacle?

Oh, it's great. It's nice because it's sports, but you're able to interact with the athletes in an honest way. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like if you go to an NBA game, you can't talk all the shit you wanna talk.

Whereas like with these guys, you can go crazy. And just like it's- They talk shit too. Yeah, it's fun. This motherfucker, one of these guys was talking crazy shit to me. Saying what? I watch a special, that shit sucked.

Whoa, that's crazy. Yeah, so now I'm like reflexive. My wife is right there, you installed me, and I'm like, hey, why you got knee pads on? And then the dude came up. Got him, he really got him. So the guy comes back afterwards and like, I'm like trying to dap him up and he goes, he's like, I can't slap your hand in front of all these people.

He's really keeping up the catering. He's like, I can't slap your hand in front of all these people, but I just want to say I like you, you're a funny guy. And I'm like, oh, thank you. And he goes, I can't slap your hand in front of all these people, but I just want to say I like you. You're a funny guy. And I'm like, oh, thank you. And he goes, I can't slap your hand in front of all these people. And I'm like, okay, you're a piece of shit. Like I didn't understand. I didn't know how to be angry and positive. But it's a, yeah, the commitment to it. Yeah, dude. Also, you know, it's a, what's, what's, this is the most embarrassing thing is when you're not in the action, you don't know what to do.

So like, I have a lot of respect to the people who aren't doing the thing. They're not in the action, you don't know what to do. So like I have a lot of respect to the people who aren't doing the thing, they're like on the sidelines, but they're like invested still. They're doing their little thing, they're like emotional, or they just did a move on, someone did a move on them and they're like reeling, but they're committed to that shit. Cause there's a moment where I'm just sitting

on the ropes, I'm like, so what y'all doing? Like, this seat is fire, you gotta get this front row seat. I'm just there, one, I just shook the ropes and didn't know what to do. You need to go to the bathroom. I didn't know what to do in that moment. If the camera... I don't think there would be anybody telling me.

No, no, of course. I didn't even know I was gonna fuck. It's raw. It's Monday night raw. It's raw. Yes. It's raw. But there is one where you get thrown

and you're like, hoo, hoo, hoo. And then AJ comes in and you're like, all right, nice. Yeah, exactly. And then AJ slaps you, you stand up, you're like, yeah. It's my deep breath.

You're not injured anymore? Not at all. He gave me the energy I needed. Telling you, it's raw out there, bro. You're 100% right. You're raw. That's amazing. What's up, guys?

World's fastest dates ever, OK? Don't fast forward, all right? We're going to be at Mary Lou in New York City, March 25. I'm going to be in Portland, Maine, April 27. I'm also going to be in Bangor, Maine on the 26th and then a bunch of other dates They're gonna be announced very shortly. We got Atlanta. We got Charleston. We got Indianapolis. We got Portland, Oregon We'll be later Buffalo Philly and Raleigh all coming up that will be available on my website the mark Agon.com and We'll see you guys there. Thanks so much. You take that stupid picture of the three of us. This is nice

I feel like my wife hiding from us down? This is nice. Just my wife hiding from the camera. This is beautiful. Dove showing off his jawline. Looks good, honestly. Yeah. The other fans that were there were awesome because we were with the hardcore fans.

And tell me their reactivity. What are they? Going crazy. And they're aware of all the storylines. They're aware of everything. Oh, yeah. And they're talking shit. They're like, oh, we're on the road to WrestleMania. Just get ready after WrestleMania.

It's gonna suck. Everyone's got their own directorial cuts on what should happen. Love it. There was one dude in the very front. So everyone that bought a front row seat got a commemorative chair to take home with them. And there was-

Wait, what? So if you bought the front row seats on the lining, they gave you a commemorative like WWE folding chair like the logo and stuff all of the logos. So they just get you to clean up Find a way to get the fans I like it out with chairs. Yeah, and there's on there and there's a guy in the very front in a wheelchair Oh, no, and they were like do you want your chair and he was like, yeah, and they were like, all right We'll take it. He's like I I can't. I'm in a wheelchair. And so the management and MSG

is like, take the chair. He's like, I want it, but I can't. Can you mail it to me? And the guy's like, no, I can't mail it to you. So now they're like trying to hang out in the back of his electric wheelchair. Oh, I miss this. It's like the whole thing.

He's there with his dog. The dog's barking at everyone. It's a wheelchair with a dog. Dude, that's fine. Yeah, he was like a like a husky. He was motionless. He was flying. You never see that.

The disabled Eskimo has fire. What was your favorite match? Mmm... I mean, Steel Cage is crazy. The ending with Roman Reigns? Yeah, it was it. That motherfucker, like... There, certain dudes are just, they are it. He's like a superhero. I didn't get it until I saw him

Presence. Yeah, see it live There are people that can really like command the energy and they like milk the energy Yeah, and also there's a physicality to it. Like he's a huge guy. That's incredibly agile And when he did that spear or whatever the fucking is was it was like right in front of us, it was unbelievable. Also to see him punk and Seth Rollins dudes, this is another thing I look at, how much do you believe what's happening is really happening? How much do you believe the pain

that you're enduring is really there? If you watch them, they believe it. They are 100% in. They're sweating, they're exhausted, and we can kind of become part of that reality if they actually commit. Oh yeah. I mean, CM Punk's sitting in the cage

as people are leaving. He was the last one to leave. I think he was just sitting there the whole time, just milking it for the next 35 minutes. Yeah, it's awesome. No, it was, seeing those two guys, that was really elite. Yeah.

Like those guys probably doing it decades, but that was elite wrestling in terms of commitment to that match. Oh, I mean taking a suplex off the top of the cage. Nah, crazy. It was insane. Yeah. Like the way the crowd reacts.

Yeah, it was like, I didn't realize how hard the canvas is. Like it's like a hard, I thought it would be like springy. Yeah, you should see how hard the floor is. It's even harder. Wait, is it padded? I actually wanna- No, it's not padded. My hip was a padded.

It landed right in my fucking hip. It doesn't have like a little like- It ain't got a pad, it's like a yoga floor. No, that shit is made out of concrete. They make it look like padded for the people at home, but in reality, for those of us, the professional, the people, for those of us who are actually professional wrestlers and been in that environment, it's harrowing.

That experience is harrowing. For real, dude. You would make a great professional wrestler. I mean that. Listen, that's the last thing I want to do. Why are you allying him? Like, do you know what I mean? I think so.

Why are you going? I understand. Before you make that decision, can you just kind of show you one move real quick? Dude, you're telling me. Hold on now. You're telling me that this doesn't introduce excitement and crap?

Dude, that's calm. Like, you shook it like it made noise. I dumped it. It doesn't make noise, but it felt like it is. It got the fans into it, though. It got us into it. Like that. It got us into it. No, no, noises, but it felt like it is. It got the fans into it though, it got us into it. You know what I mean? Like that. It got us into it.

Nah, nah, nah, nah. Like, he's being out, so I'm like, damn, man. I didn't know where to put my hands, I think I almost grabbed his tuchus. Oh, they threw you over there. Now watch this, watch this, watch this. There you go, ready? Hold on, watch this, watch this, watch this. There you go, ready? Hold on, watch this now.

Yeah! Yeah! What the hell? That's right, you was in it. You was in it. Yeah. So then I don't know what to do. I'm just chilling at a bar.

Yeah, you're supposed to be hurt in the corner, man. Yeah. So I mean, awesome. That's crazy. Yeah, that stuff is great. It's just crazy. Yes. So I mean, awesome. That's crazy. Yeah, that stuff is great. It's just crazy. Yes. So here's this moment right here where, like, I want to Dap him,

but I don't. OK. So before that, I wanted to go Dap him, but I didn't want to, like, mess up his celebration and just be out there like this. And then he turns around. But he was great. Shout out to you, DJ Styles, man. Well, we missed out on John Cena, though.

I was trying to see heel John Cena. Yo, we got to see heel. I mean, like. You should have snuck in, like missed on John Cena, though. I was trying to see heel John Cena. Yeah, we got to see heel. I mean, like you should have snuck in like a leg drop or something, just something a bit surprising. That would have been that would have been that would have been. That's the other thing. Like, I wonder if I did some extra shit, but it was it actually worked out. I don't know if WWE would be that mad.

Why would they? But if it doesn't work out, yeah. That's even better though. Then I'm never gonna be WWE champion. That's a good point. And that's another thing that's probably really important. But not working out would be way funnier. You going up on the ropes and falling over Scorpion on the ground. Through a table, ruin Rey Mysterio's whole match.

But they'd be like, yeah, this is perfect. This is actually way better than what we thought was gonna happen. Yeah, dude. You versus John Cena. That's what I wanna see. Hell yeah, man. I'm sitting home alone there. He was hype. He loves his wrestling shit.

Yeah, he really loves wrestling. He really loves McCauley Culkin. McCauley Culkin. McCauley Culkin. Yeah. You didn't see McCauley Culkin? No. He was there all the way.

He was hype. No way. I asked him about the MJ shit. On the way out. I asked him about the MJ shit. You're lying. On the way out. I just said, hey, man. Oh, so I'm the one who asks crazy questions.

That's crazy. You can't act about that shit. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Didn't they sleep together or some shit like that? What? Didn't he do like sleepovers at his crib?

It was physical. He got a physical. It's not anything weird, bro. How do you act that? I just, no, I just went up to him. He always not anything weird, bro. How do you ask that? I just went up to him. He always pressured me to, like, damn, J, fuck your butt when you were a kid. And how'd you ask that? Like that.

Like that. How did you ask him for it? I asked him. I was like, yo, did MJ fuck your butt? Did he jerk you and other kids off? And he was like, yeah, that happened. I was like, how'd he do it? No, no, no. No, I didn't.

I was supposed to be like, hey, pleasure to meet you. What's up, man? Damn. Yeah, yeah. What would you have said? Now you're about to tell me the truth. He sucks, bro. He's a legend, right? Two Reprosodas, what do you say to McCauley Culkin?

Son, Michael Jordan Jackson was a legend, right? Two Reprosodas, what do you say to McCauley-Colgan? Son, Michael Jordan was a legend. I mean, both were legends, though. Both were legends. It's fucking. You wouldn't say that. You would go, yo, Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan did what to you? He'd be like, nothing.

He'd be like, see, he proved it. See? He's innocent. I'll be honest. The only thing that I don't like about WWE is the fact that we can't bet on it, okay? Yeah, that's kind of bullshit. I thought it was Logan Paul, but.

Also, there's two things I don't like about WWE. Okay, it's Logan Paul, okay, this part-timer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, the fact that we cannot bet on it. And, but luckily for us, there are plenty of sports that we can't bet on. Obviously, great UFC card. I mean, Justin Gaethje is back in the fucking win column.

Amazing fight against Fiziev, however he pronounces last name. Perdida versus Ankolyev. That was wild. I did not see that coming at all. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I need to have a talk with Izzy about that. That was crazy. Anyway, plenty more UFC. We got VULC fighting in UFC Miami. I think that's 314.zy about that. That was crazy. Anyway, plenty more UFC. We got VULC fighting in UFC Miami.

I think that's 314. I think that's April coming up. That's gonna be wild. That's a great card too. Plenty of ways where you can put some money down. Stake, by the way, is where you're gonna do it. It's the leader in global betting in US social casinos. Bet on top sports and political events

and use the promo code flagrant for your welcome bonus. Now let's get back to the show. You know, take this bird. The Sandhill Crane. His brother's eating majestic birds. Oh, yeah. What is the situation? All the president's. Oh, shit. Mark's plugging his fucking tongue.

I get my views on my bad. My bad. Shut out camp. Shut out camp. Now, my brother called me and I was like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm cooking up some Sandhill Crane. And I was like, what is you doing? He's like, oh, I'm cooking up some sand hill crane. And I was like, what does, what does, what do you mean? He's like, yeah, it's the rib eye of the sky.

It's like one of the nicest cuts of meat that you can buy this side of Mississippi. So now he's gotten into exotic meats and apparently you can buy it online. It's super, super rare, very expensive. It's delicious. Is it legal? I think it's legal.

Okay. Yeah. I killed one of those ones. Really? On a golf course, did not mean to. I was like, there's no way I'll I killed one of those ones really on a golf course did not mean to Oh, it's like there's no way I'll hit that one bird and square in the fucking head But your friend said y'all kiss you on the mouth Yeah, so so I don't know if any of you guys have listened to the patreon did we say exactly what happened not exactly Alright, so a New Year's Eve. This is a very quick version of it guys have listened to the Patreon. Did we say exactly what happened? Not exactly.

All right, so on New Year's Eve, this is a very quick version of it. You can hear the full story in detail on Patreon. But basically, New Year's Eve, David allegedly says, yo, I want to come kiss you or whatever on when the ball drops. And then Miles is like, bet. And then Miles hits David up later because David hasn't followed up at all. And he goes, yo, by the way, you made a great decision to stay in like it's rainy outside, which to me in retrospect is like, you were you fell rejected and you're like, I just

want to make sure that you're not out. And then David's like, all right, but I'll come kiss you whatever if you want that. And then so he comes to meet you and you're already there with two other gay guys. You're hanging out with a bunch of gay guys. And then 20 minutes after the new year, so nothing to do with the ball dropping or anything, you guys share a kiss with your lips, one lip on top like that. Also his birthday. No, no, 20 minutes after my birthday.

Okay, so that is... Oh, I is, okay. I forgot that part. What, it's a birthday kiss. Okay, so David. Yeah. That's special. I don't know how much you heard of how I just broke that story down, but is this more or less true?

Yeah, sure. 100%. Yeah. So again, did you feel a little bit like sad for him? Like you would like flippantly said, yo, we're gonna totally like make out on your birthday or whatever, like make out on New Year's joking around You don't follow up because obviously you're not gonna kiss miles right you guys like work together. You're also both like women and Then he hits you up later in the night like does hit me up. Yeah

Can I ask my question yeah, please your memories bad like a lawyer Would you agree that your memories bad leading to witness Can I ask Miles two questions? Yeah, please. Miles, your memory's bad. I'm like a lawyer. That's not really a question. Would you agree that your memory's bad? Leading the witness. Look at him dominating you, son. Now I understand why you like him. He didn't even ask a question. He said, Miles, your memory's bad.

Miles goes, what? Yes, daddy. It's so bad. I would say at times it can be. Your memory's bad, okay. And you would say my memory is phenomenal Yeah, yeah, okay. I wanted to clarify that these are a member when you hit in front of back All right, so your memories bad you your memories phenomenal, okay, okay

So what do you think exactly is going down? So what happened was we were at dinner for Miles's birthday. Yeah. With Shifty. It was me Shifty and Miles. And I was saying like, oh shit, I've had like a phenomenal streak of having a New Year's kiss for the last seven years. Yeah. Can I ask one question? Yeah. What's up? David, on New Year's Eve, I don't have a great memory. So maybe you can remember this really well. Yeah. On New Year's Eve, I don't have a great memory, so maybe you can remember this really well. On New Year's Eve, have you ever kissed a guy besides me? No. He's lying.

He's lying. Miles, the worst fucking lawyer in Israel. He's lying on the stand! I'm going to jail. You are the worst! This is my time to talk. You're lying on the stand. How can you prove that I'm lying?

You've told me before that you just said that so you wouldn't suck his dick. Wow. He said what you wanted to hear. You, you guys are both talking about your fucking- He's lying. Wow. Got him. God damn. Yeah, okay.

You ain't doing that to Logan, though. Oh shit. What the fuck, dude? All right, go, go, go. So I'm like, all right, my streak's at risk because the woman I was speaking to at the time was out of town, so I'm like, Miles, if I see you around New Year's, I'm gonna go after it. As a joke or serious? that risk because the woman I was speaking to at the time was out of town. So I'm like, Miles, if I see you around New Year's, I'm going to go after it.

As a as a joke or serious? It was kind of as a joke. Oh, yeah. The fuck is con? Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on, Miles, you might be back. Miles, you might be back. Oh, fuck.

It's the con. Look at Brandon's face up there. Brandon is one of our guys. Brandon is disgusting. Brandon is disgusting. I don't get you. What the hell? What the fuck is going on?

He's a guy, man. Brandon is just like, what the fuck? So go on. So I'm out in East Village, and I'm texting Miles. I'm like, hey, I'm at this party. It's kind of after the ball drops. I'm going to come to you, share your location. I go to the bar.

Miles is at the back table with him, his girl, and then a gay couple. I walk in and Miles gets up and meets me halfway. So he initiated this pack. I initiated it by going five blocks out of my way and meeting me at the bar. I don't know, I was going there to say hi to you for New Year's. Oh, shut up.

Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. That's crazy, you play that. That's crazy. It's so good.

I didn't Uber to you. I was at Studio 151 on 10th and C. It's crazy he ubered to me and I stood up and he's like, you fucking. Yeah, yeah. Now some might say that you put more of a commitment into it, but you could also say that your excitement, right, made you leave your table and, you know, go. I'd never left my table and walked five steps to go meet a friend to come back, sit down. Like that's a weird thing.

I was on my, it was on the way to L. So I'm like, I'll stop by Yeah, yeah on the way exactly miles went out of his way and met me in the middle of the bar So, okay, so he walks up he grabs you by the way Okay, and then we packed Miles lean Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so miles did turn his head a little bit. I was like I was like this you went straight Okay, and then we packed Miles lean in Okay, yeah, so miles did turn his head a little bit. I was like I was like this you went straight Yeah, no, but not even straight. I kind of like touched my chin in yeah, and then miles went No Oh Brandon, what are you thinking bro? This is un- I thought y'all were bullshit.

I thought you were gonna kill me. And then they're just like, who else have you kissed besides me? Yeah, that does seem jealous right there. He's lying on the stand and saying this is untrue. I'm being slandered right now. Okay, so hold on. So you obviously are approaching David, right? So David has a slow- I gotta dab him up. That's not true He's on time. That's not already

And I was like God damn bro get away from me and then they do then he grabs my face That's not sure that's not sure you grabbed his head. No, I couldn't get away. That's not sure well He met me at the bar. Why would I initiate it if he's already walking towards me? You came to my bar. You gave a bouncer your ID. Are you old enough to get in here and you're like, yeah, I am and also I'm on a mission You did a lot of steps to come see me. I'd been at that bar for hours. You were on the way to the L Like it was convenient for me. Convenient? That's crazy

Okay, who pulled away first What is that? What the fuck? Now they're both mad about it. I know. Now they're both angry. Yeah, what went wrong, man? What happened afterwards? Yeah, this feels like something personal.

Yeah, I feel like there's something else going on here. What happened to you the rest of the night? I went back with a girl to her apartment. And? Because she was so horny. I'm all horned up. Did you guys end up hooking up at the apartment, you and the girl? Yeah. And did you guys have sex?

And did you think about David's face at all during it? No. No images of it popped in, no thoughts of the kiss at all during the entire sexual encounter. There was no point where they were like, oh, that was funny when we kissed or whatever. No. Yeah, that was almost like a threesome because she had both of us alive. That's a good point. That was a devil's triangle there. What did the gay couples say about the kiss? Did they rate it? Because she had both the Ocelot

Triangle there, but what did the gay couple say about the kiss did they rate it? With the gay couple that you guys just had a kiss I think they saw I think they watch they saw yeah, so the whole bar saw Yeah, not everyone was a gay bar. No, sir. It East Village. What was the name of the bar? You guys tried. They turned it down. They take over. It was a good bar, it was a nice bar, it was a good time. And has it been awkward at all between you guys since?

No, no one says so. Our relationship got stronger if anything. So trying to play us around. No, we're great, We're very good friends. Do you guys think it'll happen again? No. No. Would you guys just do it now for funsie onesies?

Like, would you guys just- How much money? No, no, no. Yeah, hold on. Yeah, they're trying to get me to- No, they're trying to get me to- They're trying to get me to paste in my own mouth once for like 10 grand and- You said no to that?

Yeah. For 10 grand? On the pod, yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Would you guys- could we reenact it? Hold on, could we reenact it? So one of you comes down the stairs and then one right here and then- Come Yeah, hold on. Hold on. Would you guys what can we reenact it? Hold on. Can we react it so one of you comes down the stairs? You just meet right in front of the foliage one little pack and then we just move on to show me

It's so much to discuss. Come on. No, it's David's dad We'll kill him next time he sees him and we can't have that's not true. It's just a fun little game We'll blur it. We'll blur it. No. Yeah No We'll blur it. We'll blur it. No. Yeah He's not insecure about Make you feel comfortable at all like we could show how progressive we are What's the number what's the number Make me feel he's more straight than you they don't like he's just like this doesn't matter at all I could do it for like 20 bucks or whatever

I'll pay you to do it I'll pay you to do it. I'll give you guys. It's something you did for free or? Yeah, you already did it and the world knows. So we might as well just see you guys do it again real fast. No big deal. It's a fun little thing. It's wrestling. Hey, David, David, just get out of there. It's everything's wrestling. It's a fun little thing. Gayfabe. No wrestling's incredibly real.

And this is fake. So it wouldn't be the it wouldn't be right. Well, the kiss is might be scripted, but, you know, the love is real. Two grand. Two grand. What the fuck? no, no, we're not gonna I mean they're starving kids in Africa, bro We're not gonna give you guys. Yeah, there's a poor gay couple in this Listen you guys hold on you guys do it and then me and Alex will do it after you after is the most insane sentence we'll do it right afterwards

guaranteed you have you have Alex's word we'll do it afterwards I've never used Alex in my life I'll never never lie'd never lie. No. So we're not gonna get any little pack? Just a pack! A pack! No.

Right into the blue chewette. We do a pack. No. That's honestly great for the sponsors. That's a great, that's a great sponsor. So I call them admin. But no. This would be a bad idea, dude. Miles, come on, bro. For two grand, Miles. Each.

Each two grand. We're gonna get, we're gonna put a Go go fund me or something. We'll have no I don't but they're not gonna pay no No, it's too great. He's considering You're gonna say no to 2500 2500 oh for us. That's something you've already done. You've already did it. Yeah This is Wein it happens in Hollywood, bro. Exactly. This is Weinstein's hotel room. Facts.

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I appreciate you guys so much for doing that. Yeah, it's just been been crazy, man. Thank you, everybody who watched it. I appreciate you guys so much for doing that. Yeah, it's just been really awesome, man. We beat Robert De Niro. That was fire. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, we beat Bobby D. We beat Drives to Survive. That was cool. Meghan Markle. Love is Blind. I think it's still charting on Netflix right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in the top three right now.

So we've been vacillating. Fucking Kate Hudson and Chet Hanks, though. That's a banger of a show. Yeah, bro, Chet Hanks, that's a tough one to go against. He don't lose. That motherfucker never loses, man. Fucking Chet. Nah, shout out to y'all, man. But yeah, it's been so cool, man.

Honestly, maybe the coolest part is just a lot of people who went through IVF and way more harrowing stories than ours, sending me these long DMs and shit. And I try to read them all, and just kinda about their experience, and then some of them will be just laughing about it, and then some of them will be really emotional things, and now they got to laugh at this experience that was really brutal for them.

People going through it for 11 years, and then they would always end the message about with their kid or just how excited they were to have their kid. And I think that's maybe the coolest thing is seeing how excited people are to have families and just this unbelievable enthusiasm to bring life into the world.

And yeah, every message is like, I'm here with my one-year-old and I'm watching this shit and yeah it's just a that to me has been just unbelievable. Random people have been hitting me up like from high school that I haven't talked to like 10 years. No way. Just being like bro just put on the special crazy like didn't know what to expect like but we're going through the same thing right now like I didn't even know this about them. It's like popped up within like IVF community forums. Oh, that's fire.

Some people send me links where they're like, yo, there's this forum, people are talking, it's like 100 comments long, just people being like, this was our, like he's just talking about our experience. Oh, that's so cool. So that's fire. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm getting DMs of people just like showing me their miracle babies of what they're saying. It's like, ah, I know you're probably getting that times a million. No. It's awesome. Yeah, it's just. You touched people's soul with this one.

Yeah, I feel really good. I feel, yeah, I just felt really proud of it. You know, I was obviously proud of it before when you're editing it, but you're also watching it so many times that you're like, you just lose sight of everything. You know, you're just like, is this even funny anymore? And then hearing the reaction to it is very validating. And then, like, even having people say, I did not know what to expect. Like that, like a lot of people getting emotional at it.

That was really cool. Just to make a piece, a piece of art that they could, you feel all these, the gambit of emotions and yeah, I guess surprising people. Like even articles that will come out where there are people who, they, you know, they definitely did not maybe expect to like something that I did. And they were maybe kind of offended by some of the topics. But the story penetrated past their, I don't want to call it like prejudice of me, but like this, this woman wrote this article and it

was like really cool and she had went through it and it was for like parenting magazine or something like that. But the jokes were not necessarily jokes that she would laugh at. And that's fine. People have their different types of sense of humor. I don't care. But like it's so cool. Like the story allowed her to laugh at some of the jokes and allowed her really relate to the journey.

And I thought that was awesome. One for her to even relate to the journey. And I thought that was awesome. One, for her to even feel comfortable saying that. Like a lot of these people, even writing an article like that, they're like scared about the scrutiny. And so many people are like terrified of like pissing off their publication or pissing off their community or whatever it is. But yeah, the fact that she felt compelled to share that. And then all these other people commenting on it, just saying how they also watch it,

it was really cool. And hopefully destigmatizing people commenting on it, just saying how they also watch it, it's really cool. And hopefully de-stigmatizing it a little bit, because I know it can be, that shit can be lonely and isolating. So if we can just make it funny, and make it a source of pride, not embarrassment, like yo, I'll do anything to have a kid. I will fucking pay any amount of money,

I'll inject anything in my body, that's how much life is important to me and like family is important to me. And I think that's how you should look at it. That's how I said, like initially I was embarrassed as fuck, don't get me wrong. I'm like, well, my wife even wanna fuck me anymore? Like, I literally went through those emotions.

Like, will she not see me as like a virile man? And like, will something instinctually shut off for her? But eventually, you know, getting to that point where it's like, nah, like this is, that's amazing how much that she wants to have a family with me. And like, that's amazing how much we want to have, how important it is.

That the love is so strong that you would go through such a difficult process. Anything. Yeah, I'm gonna lie to my kid, I'll tell him he's IVF. I'll be like, I didn't shell out money for you. I think everybody should do this shit. Yeah, I'm pretty sure, he's like, you got me for free? Yeah.

I'm like, damn, show this kid, they put down cash for this, they need to go through some shit. He's like you got me for free Kid they put down cash Through some shit is real It's real Let him watch this better. Yeah, so mine's either surrogate. I'd be like, yeah, we love you so much. We put her you in another body No, that is yes, so that's been very cool, and just super grateful. And there are people just sharing it. There's so many people posting and going,

yo, friends, check this out, or saying, go check this out. And that's really how I realized things where you could do awesome promo. We had some very cool promo, like shout out Matt for doing, you could do all these things, but if at the end of the day, the people don't share it. Yeah, word of mouth is the best. The word of mouth is really the only thing that moves it.

It's like if the people watch it and they share it, they tell their friends, that's what's gonna happen. And yeah, I think it's possible, you see a lot of people, they pop into the top five, or they pop into the top 10, and then they kind of leave quickly, they get a big bump. And just to be there throughout the the week is just like awesome.

Just fucking awesome. So many people have hit me about the outfit specifically. Oh, word? Yeah. Which I thought was a fire outfit, but the amount of people being like, yo, where can I get this? Shout out to our mate, man.

Shout out to Teddy, bro. Have you gotten those messages? People are like, yo, I need that outfit. I was like, all right. I've been sending them links. I've just been, I've been lining them up. That's an age difference for sure, because everybody hitting me up is just like,

man, I went through this shit. I know, yeah. Everybody's like, where the pants from, though? Yeah. Anyway, so I appreciate y'all, man. Thank you so much. If you haven't checked, go check it out on Netflix. And yeah, thank you, bro.

Dude, I had a heard an interesting take from somebody who remained nameless, but somebody was saying that the, I even hate the saying the word woke, but the wokeness of Hollywood was a reaction, like an overcorrection to what happened with Weinstein. So everybody felt, not everybody, but I guess a lot of people there felt

as if Weinstein was an example of, don't even go anywhere. Fuck that. Was Weinstein was an example of what all of Hollywood was. So they're like, the world thinks that we are all these horrible, just bringing girls up to hotel rooms, et cetera, so what we have to do is prove that we are not that, and then they overcorrect

in the other direction. That's a good take. I thought it was interesting. I mean, it could be one of these like, you know, with posthumous justifications. Yeah. But I do see that like, because that is kind of the stain that Hollywood had,

and maybe even still has for a while, right? Like, you know, Hollywood is just a bunch of pedophiles. They're just saying that about everybody in Hollywood. Yeah. So they're reacting to like online chatter, right? And they're like, oh my God, they think all of us producers we're all just a bunch of these and we fuck with kids and we just don't care about people at all.

And it's uncomfortable environments for women. And then maybe all this rhetoric gets pushed during that time period. Yeah, I think that plus Trump. Oh, of course. I think it was right around like 2015, 2016. All that converged. But it's kind of interesting.

I never thought of that as like reactionary to Weinstein. I thought it was just like this cultural impulse. But having specifically Weinstein being like emblematic of Hollywood and then all these other producers going, oh fuck, are they going to think that's us? Especially because everyone knew the Weinstein shit. That's everyone. It was an open secret. Everyone was like, yeah, this guy's a creep. Like Courtney Love's like, yeah, don't go to his hotel room. Like everyone knows. Some of these motherfuckers will tell me like, yeah, everybody knew about it. They'll like tell me in conversation, like, because they think that like they're telling me something that, I don't know, they're like sharing with me. They're like, yeah, everybody knew about it.

And I'm looking at these motherfuckers like, well, why didn't y'all do something about it? Like is there something we don't understand about this? Yeah. Like, I mean, that was a crazy conversation I yeah with a dude who's like related to an agency And he was just like yeah, I mean people knew they were just sending girls to his hotel Wow, but they're like we make a little mermaid black then we're fine anymore Things are swinging back and all the woke shit's done are they back to

Yeah, there's a lot of new stars in Hollywood. Yeah, we should have told them that. Like, hey, you don't have to do all the DEI stuff. Just stop the f***ing. Yeah. And that's fine with us. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that is it.

Okay, so that's the other thing. It's like now, let's say it's all merit-based, right? Like acting is pure merit-based and like nothing else matters, right? You're just going to hire Meryl Streep to do everything, right? But these executives and producers, they're like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're

going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to be like, you know, they're going to and like nothing else matters, right? You're just gonna hire Meryl Streep to do everything, right? But these executives and producers, like they don't want to have sex with Meryl Streep, right? And she doesn't want it. I mean, speak for yourself. Would you take down Meryl Streep? Miles, would you do that?

For sure. Oh, I know you like that. I know. What's the other Meryl Streep? What's her name? Oh, Sally Field. There's like two or three of them. Sally Field. No, no, there's another one too. Helen Mirren. Helen Mirren. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Meryl Streep. She's fucking good. Not even for the story. Not even for the story.

What are you talking about, dude? To have a romantic tryst with Meryl Streep, that'd be insane. She's pretty, she got a little of that, uh, who's the woman who knows all about, um, She's pretty she got a little that uh, who's the woman who knows all about um? Home decor Martha Martha she got David lips That was kind of crazy. Brandon does that face, that's how you know it's you. That was wild. Oh no. My bad, my bad, my bad. I'm making him look bad. Ain't on my bad. Nah, I'm making him look bad.

David's sitting in pitch black, and you know the exact shape of his lips on Helen Mirren's face? He got some lips on him. I got lips. He's like, low key, you got some. Is that something that you see in men sometimes? I mean, now that the focus is on him, he got some lips. You just mad because he got lips that you don't?

First of all, you have this big ass mustache that hides the fact you don't got a lip. I'm peeing, gang. If you don't have a top lip, you got to get some cover. Yeah, you just get a big ass mustache. And I just focus on my bottom lip. My bottom lip is nice. I'm more bottom lip.

I got that from my mom. Your bottom, yeah. I'm like, all right. That's the term. The lip community. That's the term. Don't you go there. That's the term. The word community. That's the term. It's the term.

It's the term. It's the term. Oh, man. Actually, I don't even know if my mom got a bottom lip, man. I was looking at my, I was at the museum. I went with Shiloh to the Museum of Natural History, and I was looking at all these dinosaur bones, and I was like, that's what my mom's mouth is hiding.

I'm like, it's just John John. Just clamp, clamp. She's a herbivore. My mom doesn't like a herbivore. Damn, Larry. Shout out Larry Legend for that one, right? That's what I'm talking about. That's pure love.

That's true love. I'm gonna watch this. With all due respect though, mom. With all due respect. Bro, come on. With all due respect. That's my, that's my camera. Like that. Bam! Can't say that. Andrew, stop letting your friends run holes in my walls!

Yeah, bro. Look at that. Go to the National History Museum and think of your mom's crazy stuff. Bro, constantly, constantly. I told you, my mom took my nephew to the National History Museum. She was like, none of these exist. I literally, I'm not even joking. I'm not even joking.

Did I not tell you this? We went and little Ollie was like, I saw a dinosaur at the museum. And my mom was like, what did you really see? And he was like, I saw a reenactment of dinosaur bones. And she was like, what did you really see? And he was like, I saw a plaster mold of what they thought dinosaur bones would have looked like.

And my mom was like, see, there you go. They've never discovered a dinosaur bone prior to 1826. And everyone's like, yeah, dinosaurs aren't real, whatever. Ruins the dinner. Then my mom leaves over and goes, but dragons. Dragons, my friend. No way.

She's like, dragons are in the Bible. Look into it. Ah. I love your Bible, man. Our mom should go to the National History Museum. I mean, that would be a wild experience because my mom will believe anything. Like, I get that from my mom.

The last article I read, that's the truth. My mom is 100% on that shit. She'll just be sending me, I don't even want to get into it. But like, I know how, like she's not built for the internet at all. Cause my mom likes to research, she likes to read. But before you would go get a book from like Barnes and Noble

and there was someone who looked at the book to make sure it was somewhat true. And now my mom's just on Google. Getting caught by ads. Oh no, it's not good. It's not good at all. Bro, I was with Derrick Post and I saw him get caught by an ad.

Oh yeah? Like we were scrolling on my phone and he goes, wait, doctors hate this trick? I swear to God. No way. He was like, what's the trick, what's the trick? And I was like, Derrick, this is an ad. And he goes, no.

Yo, Derrick, Derrick, I get Derek, Derek, I get it, bro. I get it, man. I get phished almost every day. I got to send screenshots to Tanya. I got to send screenshots to Tanya every single day. The group chat is just his defense against internet hackers. Somebody added my email to their security email. They made a fake email that kind of looked like mine.

It was like, **** or something like that. And they're like, they added my actual email to that. And I got this notification from Google about it. And I at least now can check if it's a real Google notification. Cause used to, I would get these notifications from like a super Google at something.net. Gmail.

Yeah. I would get those. I'd be like, God damn, they got me. Yeah, it's Gmail. Yeah. So, and then I hit Tanya with that. She's like, please don't ever respond to anything. She's like, the way that you should respond to any of these concerns is just ignore all of them. Yes.

Also, he should just fish the fuck out of himself. I mean, I've done belief. You go, hey, it looks like my email. Say it out loud. No, no, I said the fake one. Yeah, I said it looks like yours. Damn it, man. I'm really not built for this. I said the fake one Come on yeah, just trying to sneak out again. All right, David. Thank you Anyway, go to the natural history museum with your kid is like the coolest thing ever You should definitely do that when he is like a little bit older where they recognize shit because they're still at the age where they don't Know what's fake and real so like every doll that my daughter has,

or every like, she's like gloves animal, so every like fake stuffed animal, she believes is a real animal. And then she sees my dog and she also believes it's a real animal, because it is. But she cannot discern between the two. So when we're at the Natural History Museum and you see these like beautiful recreations

of like what a wooly mammoth was, she's like that's an alive animal Oh, that's awesome. And she's just losing her fucking mind I mean, it was the coolest you get everything like nothing is actually made for adults It's made for your kid to look at it and go crazy and you just sit there smiling for hours. Yeah Oh, it was I mean it was so but she's gonna start asking you questions in and you're even better But then you're gonna have to come with answers. Now. You just make shit up. I Have no problem making shit up. You're like our dinosaurs real. Are you gonna a hundred percent? Okay, okay, yes

You're gonna lie to her. No, I'm not gonna lie. I bet but yeah, I think that they're real. I think they were birds Yeah, they have feathers and shit. I got something I learned like They got some good little information at some of these booths So on islands, right, that are remote. Museums, yeah. They've got some good information. They do. It's not just pictures. So on remote islands, and the information informs like the world that we live in, right?

So on these remote islands, the small animals tend to be much bigger because there's not as much natural predators there. Right, so there's more of an abundance of food. The big animals tend to be smaller, right? Like they have these like tiny miniature elephants that exist in some parts of the world. And they're like the size of a dog. And they get smaller because there's just not enough food

for them to eat in this tiny little island just walking around all day. Insular dwarfism. Yeah, is that what it's called? Okay, yeah. And then what do they call the gigantism is what happens to the small animals. And then that's why, like you'll see like Samoan women are so big. And it's just because- Because, no, that's not- What do you mean?

It is- No, I think because there wasn't enough natural predators so they could just eat all the taro. Is this you putting it together as the museum? I did a little bit. I think there was like a line of thinking and then I took it there and I Was a good gigantic small women. There was nothing to eat them. So they ate everything we need to bring Roman And then on this little island And I think it's because they have all the coconuts or whatever they eat at their disposal and there's no real big natural predator.

Oh, wow. What's the Simones natural predator on an island before white people? Heart disease. Seriously. So if you get a heart attack from eating pineapples, you don't deserve to live. White people really brought heart attacks to the islands, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing.

We brought Fanta and they started dying at 50 years old. Before that, they would just live in eternity. They're eating vegetables. Yeah. Sugar and cigarettes. Yeah. You guys did it. Is that the thing?

Sugar, cigarettes, and alcohol. I thought that the Native Americans were on to smoking shit way before us. I mean, tobacco, right? Oh. Yeah. Little peace pipe. But y'all start putting shit in it. What us. I mean tobacco, right? Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little peace pipe. But yeah, I started putting shit in it.

What do you mean? Like, put other chemicals. Like menthol. Yeah, yeah. That's what we're putting in it too. We're making new for it. They weren't sugary enough for the black. I know.

Exactly. I turned that shit into a hookah. So who am I breath to smell good before killing myself? I ain't gonna lie, menthols are amazing. Yeah am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I?

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I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like, who am I? I'm like up for Lent. I'm glad you brought this up. Bullshit. I gave it up for the Lord. You ate a Reese's last night. I threw it away. I watched him throw it away.

I really did watch him throw it away. Fuck, I was trying to correct him. I was like, yeah, don't throw this away. Miles fished him out of the garbage bin. You really gave up sugar for Lent. For Lent, come on, dude. And you only have to give up one thing? You can give up multiple.

You can give up multiple things. Wow. I knew a guy that used to inflict pain. He said I'd have nothing to give up, so I put a little little like bead in my shoe, so I feel pain throughout the day. So stupid. Sorry guys. What did you give up? You're Catholic.

You're a good Catholic. You gave up something? Absolutely nothing. Did you even do Ash Wednesday? No. Did you? Nah. I'm ashy enough.

I just didn't put lotion on my forehead. Is your forehead's too big, then you're good. But yeah, I didn't get to do Ash Wednesday. I missed out on it. We were in Austin. I would have gone. Yeah, I saw one dude. Churches everywhere.

You could have did it if you really wanted to do it. Yeah, that's the thing. You could make the sacrifice. We were doing potty. Take some dirt off the fucking ground and put this shit and walk around like an idiot. It's bigger than that. I just prayed, I've been praying, so I just prayed to God. I asked him why I should give up, he said sugar.

He said, it's his will for me to get shredded for the summer. That's what God wants for me, okay? So I'm just following the Lord. Shout out to the Lord, bro. The Lord always looks out on you. Did you do Palm Sunday? I used to like that day,

because I was just like. Yeah, you could turn it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, that was cool. Are you giving up anything for the lens? No. Come on. But I did see an interesting conversation. There's this guy that was... There's this show online where somebody goes and they sit in like a room full of people, right?

And you sit in the middle and then other people can come sit across from you and then you guys debate for like three minutes. 20 v 1. 20 v 1. 20 v 1. Yes, it's like the balloon popping for white nerds. And then, so there's this guy like Sam Cedar sitting down and then there's this Latino kid who sits across from him and he's having this argument about the importance I guess morality. And I think Sam, he was asking where his morality comes from. I mean, we can probably bring up a clip, or it doesn't matter. But it was interesting, this take that he had, you need a religious foundation for your morality, otherwise you end up just justifying whatever

makes you feel good. And you can't just keep doing whatever makes you feel good, because you won't have good societal outcomes from that. And he was taking it to the extreme of, you can't just keep doing whatever makes you feel good because you won't have good societal outcomes from that. And he was taking it to the extreme of you won't even have procreation. Like if you take it to its furthest logical conclusion, just doing whatever makes you feel good in the moment will lead to population collapse. How?

Because if you fucking make you feel good and a couple gonna get past the goalie. Yeah, but maybe you fuck with a rubber because having a kid might not make you feel good I mean It's Monday night roll every day watch this Are you an atheist? I'm a reformed Jew. I should say that the way that these shows are set up I don't think he knows what everybody else's arguments are gonna be used against him But it seems like everybody else there knows what that person in the middle thinks and they're there essentially to

Refute whatever their beliefs are. Yeah, and usually they'll bring up a topic and then whoever wants to go can run it Yeah, got it But but everybody comes there with ammunition and that person in the beginning is not I mean you should be prepared to defend your beliefs But you're going up against somebody who's already thought about every argument against you. So like one person is prepared, the other person is not, but continue. And so we have a civil society, we have laws.

That is an interesting point that he was making right there, which is like, if laws are based on like societal cohesion, but not some like moral framework, right? And society chooses to do something that we might morally object to. If you go along with the societal decision, you could get some shitty outcomes. So the idea of having this like moral framework

that informs the societal decisions, much to their chagrin at times, can sometimes protect the human experience. So if society all goes, hey, we should have slavery, and then the moral opinion is, no, that's wrong to subject people to that sort of behavior, you can thwart what society wants. I mean, this would be the argument,

like why you want something out of simply what makes people feel good to be what drives your like moral compass. But couldn't you say the same the other way around? It's like if you have the moral framework of religion then we'll never have like gay 100% that's why this is like a I'm not trying to say one is right or wrong I'm just saying it's kind of exposing the limiting factors of both It's like we want the the moral framework of religiosity when it comes to how we treat one another, but then there are certain hangups with that religiosity, and then we go, actually, we don't want the religiosity.

So it's kind of like we're picking and choosing what we feel like is right. I think he's using the term what civil society is, but civil society throughout history has believed in some pretty nefarious shit. So, yeah, it's an interesting, I think it's like, keep on going, I don't wanna interrupt at all, but I think it's like a really interesting discussion. Like how do you figure out what is the best version of society for the most people?

And the reality is you kinda need to pick and choose from both. You know, you need a moral framework that you might object to that's brought to you by God or some higher power or something else, but you also need to break that framework so that certain people can have the rights that they deserve as part of this idea of a civil society. I don't know if you get there without both. You can't just rely on people to make the right decision. I think is what I'm trying to say. Well, I guess if you are an atheist or a secular person, you could argue that, oh, all of these religious dogmas just come out of basically the same exact thing. So you're saying that the morality is internal before religion. If God doesn't exist, which I think would be his argument, that there is no God, so

therefore, the rules that are laid out within Judaism, Islam, Christianity are just human beings creating what they think the social structure should be. And then the pushback someone might give is like, yo, we've created some fucked up rules that really hurt a lot of people. And so that's so hard. But I think over time, we've gotten better. This is the best time to live ever in the history of-

100%, I guess my question is, and I don't have the answer, my question is like, what is the impetus for that? What made us realize, was it this internal morality that we have? Was it kind of like erupting and we realize, hey, this is actually wrong. This goes against what we want internally and we like turn a blind eye to it. Like what? Well, secular people might lean on like natural law and say like there are certain things that violate what it means to be like a fruitful human. So like infringing on someone else's

life or like sexual violence, stuff like that. So we know that internally as a species that that is not good. So you could come to that conclusion outside of the DA. But why the fuck have we done it throughout the majority of history? If we know that it's so wrong, why have we done it continually?

Like murder and things like that. Murder, assault women, all these things. Like why you pointed at him? Look at him, look at him. Like why you pointed at him? That was kind of crazy. Like a hawk deterred. I said the same thing. You're about to put the gloves down.

But keep going, keep going. Like Alex O'Connor? He'd be a good person to... He's great. But he popularized this idea. I forget what philosopher came up with it, but I think it's ethical emotivism. So basically it's this idea that you can basically just say like, something that happens, you could say, oh, boo that thing.

So like murder, you're not saying like murder is right or wrong, you're not putting like a truth value on it, you're just saying boo murder. So like your emotional attitude. Reaction to murder. To something is what justifies your moral compass, and then ideally whatever the majority feels about a specific thing, then creates the social fabric for how that's enlisted into law.

So then how have we been so comfortable with murder throughout history? Well within our own civil society we're not, but then when it comes to like war that's not murder. So there are these little spaces where murder can exist. Right, if it's justified, self-defense. And what if it's a duel? No, then if both parties are consenting, then it's not murder. Oh, it's a...

It's no victim. It's not murder, what would it be called? Just killing. Yeah. So murder is the idea that one party is not consenting. And I guess both parties are consenting to whatever happens. It's like a boxing match where one person ends up dying. But I guess with a duel, like the explicit purpose is to kill that person.

One of us will die. Yeah. And if they're both consenting to do it, assuming there's no coercion, then... I guess maybe there's like a... So I guess maybe Sam's position is a little bit more optimistic about the human experience. It's like, hey, we are internally good and we know the right thing to do. And when we're put in situations where we're allowed to freely access our internal morality, we will act right.

Yeah. I agree with that. And then, but also I have empathy for the other guy because it's like, he might subscribe to this idea like there's been a lot of times where we don't act right and we act horribly towards one another. And then having this moral framework that's given by God or religion or whatever

is a constant reminder that we cannot fall victim to our instinctual desires in these moments. But sometimes they've used that moral framework to do horrible things. That's why this is an interesting discussion. I'm not saying that you're wrong about it, but that's why it is really interesting because there's so much evidence to us doing horrible shit. And it would be nice if there was this framework

that we could look back to and be like, hey, hey, we're doing horrible shit because God says it. Or now I guess we have in America, the constitution says it. It seems like we need something to remind us constantly and that we can do a lot of justification for horrible behavior if we want. And we can even use religion for horrible behavior too. I mean, people have done it throughout history.

It's happening right now, right? They're like, murking these Christians out there in Syria. And I'm sure that there's like a moral justification for that. There's not this like boo murder. They're going, nah, you know, the man upstairs justifies this in some way. Yeah.

I know a lot of these shows are like based on like dunking on one another, which is kind of unfortunate. I wish there was a lot more good faith conversations for people online where it wasn't like, I'm gonna win. It's more like, what do you feel? Oh, that's an interesting perspective, and I feel this way, and then that person goes, I can see why that's important.

Unfortunately, this is this dunk culture that gets a click. But I thought this- They set it up that way. But the discussion is like, No, it's good. It's like, here, keep going. You have low reproductive birth rates.

I just don't see a justification for being gay outside of it just feels good. Pause. So, that's like, here, keep going. You have low reproductive birth rates. I just don't see a justification for being gay outside of it just feels good. Pause. So, that's, okay, so it's an interesting feeling is like, usually I think with, at least in America, the feeling of, hey, this feels good, and this is good that we're talking about this, Miles, is that like, this feels good to go like kiss your friend.

We should let the experts speak on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, fuck. If someone's in the room, there's really no reason for us to talk. This feels good to go like we should like the experts But he goes it's not like it's right or wrong It's just I don't feel a justification for it outside of this feels good So his I guess argument hinges on this idea just be as something feels good doesn't mean that is best for society Mm-hmm, and he'll he makes more wild shit He came ready. This guy came ready, right? And this, I think we've even had this discussion

here, which like, okay, you have people that are related, having sex without the fear of reproduction, if they are consensual, is that okay? It feels both good to both of them. They're adults, they're consenting and it doesn't I guess negatively impact society Should we restrict their ability to do that? Yeah, it's a fire philosophical debate Yeah, like the one of the first day in my philosophy class and like college. This is one of the questions They brought up. This is the what was it doctor small? Yeah, Dr. Same-sex incest. Yeah, is that unethical because same-sex removes the fear of Producing a child that has some sort of issue.

So what's wrong? So what's the problem? Now this is where we go back to the O'Connor argument where it's just like you have this innate feeling of boo, that's bad. What does that come from? Is that- Because we've been told incest is that- Well, that's the thing.

Have we been told it or do we innately feel it's wrong? Like is it built into our personal constitution and you could argue on a biological basis that humans feel that it's wrong Why like through like pheromones? So like a person would be more attracted to a Like a dissimilar person than to a relative stuff of guys pheromone levels of stuff like that Okay So like for the reproductive health of the society most people would go to diversify their genetic lineage. But then you look at throughout history and probably the- Except these guys. I mean yeah, Doug's entire family looks identical

to one another, so there's been a lot of inbreeding in his family and it's kind of worked out for them, maybe others it hasn't, right? But there's a lot of similarity. I mean like- Yeah, but they all have asthma, so it's like the good of the bend. How do you have asthma at that nose, right? You feel like you could get some oxygen in there. It's the bend, it's like the good at the bed. How do you have asthma at that notes, right?

It's like a deviated septum or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I thought this was an interesting discussion. It's cool to chew on these things. I don't know, what is your take on it? What do you think determines our decision-making of right and wrong? I think there is something innate. I do think that there's a biological natural law.

And as someone that believes in God, I would like to believe that there is some type of like order that God put into the universe that people can come to know without God. But then additionally, if you come to follow some type of faith background, that those things are also instilled. But then I also think that those things

get like antiquated over time. Like the Levitical laws of like eating pork and stuff probably existed in a specific timeframe where pork was very dangerous. And then as time has gone on, it's no longer as dangerous. Sorry Jews and Muslims and Ethiopian Christians apparently. Oh really? Yeah, there's like a bunch of people that don't eat pork.

Wow. Which you started looking at how many people don't eat pork. Why are we eating this? Maybe they're onto something. But then I think like, I don't know, I think all the faiths that have persisted probably have a lot of roots of the same things

that help society prosper. So you could make the argument that reinforcing those beliefs might be the best thing for society at large. To a point, but we also live in a non-theocratic society. Yes. So like as someone that lives in America that likes religious freedom, I also don't wanna be bound by the mandates

of any specific religion. Yes. Whether that be Islam or Christianity or Judaism. Right. So. Because it infringes on your personal freedom. Right. Right.

Like it would be nice if there was a Catholic country that existed that had some type of Catholic theocratic laws that if I so chose, I could move to. But I like to live in America where people can practice freely whatever they want. I do as well. But he was looking at like, I think he's chalking this up to like a leftist issue and maybe he has issues with leftist ideology and it's easy to like, you's easy to reconstruct an argument afterwards and place it on top of it. But he's pointing at birth rates declining, and he's trying to say, if you see more left-leading ideology in countries, you see birth rates declining. And he's going, okay, is this a

repercussion of this way of thinking, where you just do what makes you feel good. Now, maybe, maybe you have less people, and maybe society collapses hundreds of years now, who fucking knows? But I don't know if we build society simply to create more people. Right. Yes, there's a way to make society so we just make more people, and it is more beneficial for that specific thing. But I don't know if that's the goal of civil society. Right.

I could also argue this is, I think, a slippery slope argument. Like, it seems fallacious on its onset to say, like, the logical conclusion of XYZ philosophy is decimation of a population. Because you could say the inverse that, you know, the logical conclusion of, like, a hyper-religious society is going to be, like, oppression of women and gay people getting murdered. Right. You can make the exact same argument in, yeah, just an oppressive way. So to me, it seems like kind of misguided. I don't know if that was intentional, but I think it's framed poorly. Yeah.

Go, go. You could also make the point that is a declining birth rate or an increasing birth rate positive for society? We don't know. If it declines, does society actually get better? There's more resources per person. Does utopia happen because there's more resources per person? Like, does utopia happen because there's more resources per person, or is it an increasing birth rate?

Does that actually make the Earth die faster? Like, we don't actually know. Yeah, I've always wondered that. I'm like, maybe this is just the order of things, and we're just, like, leveling out. Like, we used to put so much emphasis on, have as many kids as possible, and now, like, look at the little resources we all have,

and everybody's complaining. So maybe this is just like, hey, balancing itself out. Yeah, it's a leveling, a natural leveling. It's even that idea I think comes out of like agrarian societies and shit. And this is from someone who's parents are seven kids, but like I'm pretty sure even prior to like pastoralist and agrarian societies,

people were having like three or four kids. Like women were having like their periods like 18 or 19. Yeah, well they had it way later. Yeah, they were having it later. And so like in hunter gatherers societies, they still have it later. And so like in hunter gatherers' societies, they still have them later. And then typically women would breastfeed the whole time. They were admitting like prolactin and estrogen

so that they weren't able to get pregnant for longer periods of time. Oh, so it would separate the kids. That's an important component to talk about. When a woman is breastfeeding, it's much harder for her to get pregnant. So if you're breastfeeding for two, three, four years, then you have a five year gap in between kids.

And if you had four kids, think about that, that's 20 years of baby making. So if you started 18, you're done at 38. And you might have three, four kids. You have three or four kids. That's assuming every pregnancy went to term. That's a really interesting point. And I talked to an anthropologist that said it's actually potentially more beneficial for children to have more individualized time with the parent.

So having multiple kids really close together could be detrimental for the development of kids that giving them more undisputed attention for like four or five years is actually better for like the survival of the species. I mean, that makes a lot of sense. And this is in hunter-gatherers' societies where people are just like eating off the land and living off the land.

Well, 100%, I mean, like you have a kid right now, you know how much attention they require. Like they're walking around, you need to walk with them every single second every day. If you have one that's five and they kind of know the rules where they should go, they can almost like help out a little bit with the, they're not looking after them, but they can teach the kids something like that.

You can ask them to hand you something and you can look after the other kid, but looking at two, looking after two kids that are under three years old, I mean that, that's the, it takes a village shit. Like that's where you need grandma. Or you need grandpa, you need somebody else looking after those kids. It takes a village shit. Like that's where you need grandma. Or you need grandpa. You need somebody else looking after those kids. It takes a lot of attention.

Yeah. So I think about this question a lot. Like what does it mean to actually be human and what is best for humans? And I think people go back and they go like, oh, like 2000 years ago. But like that's still like a very recent development in humanity.

So like, is it potentially we go 10,000 years ago? Like Homo sapiens have been walking around the way we are for like, what, 100,000 years? Yeah. So like, 2,000 years is just a blip. So like, have humans existed for most of the time in the way that we were 10,000 years ago, living, walking around, having sex, eating a mango?

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, is that what most of humanity has been? So then when it comes to like moral frameworks, like, should we be trying to go back farther than we're really looking at it? You know what I mean? Wait, explain that. Like, should we be going back to like, okay we're really looking at it? You know what I mean? Wait, explain that.

Like, should we be going back to like, okay, what are humans really supposed to be doing? So like, oh, we should have a bunch of kids because that's what people did 1,000 years ago. Well, it's like, well, actually that is a blip in the overall scope. For most of human history, people are having three or four. Yeah, once we started farming, yeah,

then we start going, let's have seven. So you have societal explosion, but also you need people to work the farms. Work the land. So it's like that. It's like your retirement policy almost. You have one kid, how are they going to take care of their family and you and your wife when you're too old to do anything?

You have seven, you can mitigate that risk across seven different bodies. That's the big issue with the declining birth rate in certain countries. They have aging populations that no one is there to take care of. This is like Japan, right? Japan, South Korea, and certain other countries. I mean, every developed country, basically. Yeah. I mean, America is going to run into it in the next 50 to 80 years.

So again, the concern is that there won't be enough, or that the burden of the parents and the grandparents will be on the grandkids, and they just won't have enough resources to protect, provide. Yeah, and they also won't have enough time for themselves to benefit society. They're spending all their time taking care of an older population. That's right. They have to develop a business. They have to create something.

They have to... See? Cuomo was just trying to help out. Say again? What did he say? Cuomo was just trying to help out. Wait, what was Cuomo doing? How he put all the fucking old people in the home.

Yeah, he's like, yeah, we can't pay for these motherfuckers anymore. Accelerations, Jon. He's trying to run for mayor now. Oh, yeah. You think he's got it? I mean, on name alone, he'll get the he'll get the push to the mayor. That is the thing about politics. We used to get pretty quick. We used to get pretty quick.

And like, there are certain names, especially in, I mean, at least New York, but definitely in politics in general, where people go, oh, they're familiar with the name. You see this person, you know what you're gonna get, and then you see some other random human being, and if he doesn't create enough buzz, if he doesn't have superstar power,

Trump had superstar power, so he could kinda muscle his way in. But if it's Cuomo versus random name person that used to be the comp-troller of the city, yeah, Cuomo's blowing that guy out. Yeah. Yeah. So he would run against Adams.

Yeah. Oh, is Adams even still, everyone's still? Of course, that's the boy, bro. Every other week he's getting arrested. Nah, I saw him at Zero Bond Finger and Chicks the other day. No, shut up, Adams, bro, that's the boy. He be going out. No, he likes to party, son. I've ran into him at fucking record rooms and Queens. Shout out Adams, bro. That's the boy. He be going out.

I've ran into him at fucking record rooms and Queens. Is he married? Say what? He's Batman, son. What are you talking about? This is what we need. New York needs a Mayor Adams. What does he do?

Entirely stuffy corn balls. He likes to talk to his constituents. Be with the people? Yeah. Yeah. He's acutely aware of what the women in New York City do. I mean, would you not? If you not married aware of what the women in New York City do. I mean, would you not?

If you're not married, you're the mayor of New York, you're not going to go dipping some strength every once in a while? Only a hundred thousand from the strength? Like, only? The fuck? You gotta dip. Nah, if he came back with a new hairline, I'd be like, this motherfucker's compromised. We want our presidents to be married No, yeah, I want you outside

I think we need Adams on the pod bro, cuz I don't know if we can let Cuomo I could set that up. I think we need Adams on the pod. I'll be fired. I think we need that We need to have a real talk. What would you ask him? What do you want to know? He might be a little afraid to come up here though. No, that motherfucker got no fear He got I was a police officer energy. Yeah because he was. That's what I'm saying. But they have a different confidence.

Yeah, yeah. And, no, I don't think he's scared. Yeah, they got that confidence that they can do whatever and get away with the confidence. Hey, bro. They got a lot of that confidence. He's away with it. Yeah. We're not talking about it no more.

Fucking crazy. What did he even do? I don't know. Do you know what he did? I don't. Does anyone know? No one knows.. I don't know. This is the beauty of headlines. It really is the beauty of headlines. It's like kickbacks to open some Turkish building. I think it was construction for the Turkish embassy or whatever like that. And it's like low key Bilge embassy, bro.

Couple free flights. Solicitation of low key, build your embassy, bro. And like- Couple free flights, a hundred- Solicitation of a contribution by foreign national and bribery. Yep. Fart. That's how you feel about that. Come on, bro. Like what is, like how is-

No politician's not doing that, that's the question. Yeah, so here's the concern. The concern I imagine is this. If you're a foreign country, right, and you see a rising star in the American political system, if I'm a foreign country that I want and I want any influence in American politics at all, and that is advantageous to foreign countries, obviously,

you get in bed with these guys when they're real young, like before they're even mayor of New York, and you got a little thing on them that you're not really gonna talk about, and they're not really sweating because they got these political dreams, and hopefully they get even mayor of New York. And you got a little thing on them that you're not really going to talk about, and they're not really sweating because they got these political dreams, and hopefully they get to be president one day. I mean, if you're going to be mayor of New York, there's no way you're not thinking I could be president.

Oh, yeah. It's the next logical step, right? So if you're Turkey, if you're China, if you're Qatar, if you're anything, you go, all right, let's see if we can just talk to that guy. Let's throw a little money in his campaign. Let's do whatever we can. And then if he does rise to this political superstardom, he does become president, then that's a phone call away.

And you're like, listen, we would really appreciate if you don't make these tariffs too crazy. You know, we're boys. Remember back in the day, we gave you that 100 grand? And that's your way of going, we don't want to make this a big problem. It's like getting it on the seed round. I mean, if I'm another country, that's what I'm doing. I'm looking at every young political star potentially,

and I'm going, I love what you're doing. How can I help? Not even trying to bribe you, how can I help? And then, you know, becoming friends. Wow. So we can let him be mayor. He can't be president, that's crazy. He's already bribed by the Turks, right?

For a hundred grants, but mayor I like Mayor I like someone say our president is do you know Russian asset? I don't know some people Deep on I think that's what Saga said Who's he supported by now who's this guy eating Carol went on road with my mustache and talked so much shit about how Israel is influencing like it was like Epstein shit it feels like there was no new conspiracies that were brought up it was like the same conspiracies we've heard for the last decade. But Twitter, but what's it?

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Because I just see Twitter and it's like, it's back to like everything is the Jews fault. But what specifically is he outing? What is he, what connections is he making? I don't know all the specifics, but the thing that people just keep trying, they can't seem to separate is that he's saying the Israeli government, and everybody ties that by anti semitism. And he's talking about all Jews. And I don't think he's doing that. Right. But that's the

way it seems like online. That's the only thing that I don't like because it's like he's really clear and just being like, oh, it's the Israeli government that's doing all these things. And then's like anti-semitism be saying Jews cause maybe because the rest of the internet's just tying the two together yeah but he's not saying that sorry so this is the tricky thing is like he's you should be able to criticize every single government on the planet you should be able to criticize Russia you should be able to criticize China whatever the fuck you want you should be able to criticize China, whatever the fuck you want, you should be able to criticize. Now, it is tricky, right, because Jews in America

and Jews around the world, naturally, are very supportive of Israel. So sometimes that support gets conflated. You're like, are you supporting that country because they've allegedly done those things? Or are you supporting them because you like a Jewish homeland and you feel safe there and you've been reading all the books forever and you just want that place to exist?

So I think that there is a separation there. But if you're somebody who hates Jews and you hear that rhetoric from Ian, you're going, see, this is why I hate them, because of all this shit. I can see that. Right? So it is a... But the thing that I've seen like kind of explode the most is this idea of foreign influence, right? Which is a very reasonable discussion to have. If you feel like other countries are influencing America, we should be able to look into that

influence and be critical of that influence, right? Yes. Now, that's not to say that we shouldn't take foreign investment. Give us all your fucking money. Do you know what I mean? If Saudi Arabia wants to buy a trillion dollars worth of planes that don't work, absolutely. Please. We love to sell you planes that don't work. We literally sell them planes with the technology that doesn't make them as good as they can be. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, it's like go karts. We put the governor on this. That plane goes 100 miles per hour. Because in case you act up, we need a 200 mile per hour plane to take you out.

Oh, that's fire. I believe that's the Hell that's that we're not selling them. We're not selling the f-35s We're not giving anybody but I think you give them like f-16s you give them the top of the shit We've we're not giving nobody those f-35 We don't know we have plenty of people that have f-35s we don't other countries don't have the f-22 I believe the 35 UK has it Dick Israel has it. I think.

And 11th of England. I like that. 11th of England. UK, you can't put it first. I don't think that's the idea. Mark, look at our prime minister. I don't think. At least six countries have it.

Yes, the United States does sell F-35 Lightning II fighter jets to other countries. Don't do that to me, Mark. I mean, Dove is a little autistic about the plans. He loves the fucking plans, so I trust him with this kind of information. But I think, sov is a little autistic about the plans. He loves the fucking plans, so I trust him with this kind of information. But I think, so here's, I think, the tricky thing, right? Is it looks like there's this influence, right?

And a lot of people in America, like, they make this big concern, how do I even say that? Because I don't want to discredit people who care about what's happening in Gaza. Like, I think there are definitely a lot of people in America, around the world, care about what's happening in Gaza. And they're like, hey lot of people in America around the world care about what's happening in Gaza. And they're like, hey, this feels excessive and they don't want people dying.

I also think there have been plenty of other times throughout history where America has been responsible for the murder of tons of people, million people in Iraq. And yes, there are Americans who are concerned. They're like, this is fucked up. We don't like this. This is horrible. But there's a little part of Americans who are like, yeah, but the gas is like 250, right?

So I think there's a little part of this discussion which is kind of missing, which is like, what are we getting out of this tragedy? We're supporting this tragedy, but what do we get? And I think it's on like Israel, to be honest, to explain if we're best friends, if you're our closest ally or whatever it is. Like, it's up to you to explain if we're best friends, if you're our closest ally or whatever it is, like it's up to you to explain to Americans if you want to continue to get that support,

why we're so close, what is the information. Now, I hear a lot of people when I ask, they're like, we get, what is it called? Intelligence. So intelligence can essentially mean like, hey, there's this terror attack that's going happen, you guys should do something about it. Let's operate in best case scenario, right? And I know there's already people on the internet like, oh, you're fucking just bootlicking the Jews or whatever the fuck it is. I'm just saying best case scenario.

They've given us information to thwart 20 more 9-11s, let's say. Because I doubt there's one planned attack on America, right? There's probably a bunch. So let's say they Because I doubt there's one planned attack on America, right? There's probably a bunch. So let's say they've given us information that stops 20 others. They can't tell America, by the way, we gave you the information to stop these attacks because now you're going to give up those people that are embedded in those like terror institutions or even the country's governments that are playing these attacks. So now you remove your intelligence.

So there is a version where America's giving them this amount of money a year, and we're getting intelligence that is valuable to us, but you can't communicate that to American people. Okay, well you need to figure out something else to communicate. Even if they did communicate, I feel like people wouldn't believe it.

That's also possible. Imagine they put out like a news headline, the Israel Times, they're like, Israel stops terror attack in America. Everyone be like, yeah, all right, of course you do. Because now you're just saying it because it didn't happen. But if you are, because here's the reality of the world. They control the media.

But this is the reality of the world. Once something happens, the government is always going to be a reflection of the people. So if there isn't support for something in America, you will not get money eventually. Wait. There's waning support in America for the war in Ukraine. Okay. Right?

Americans are kind of suffering. They feel like they don't have money here. And then we're like, why are we sending billions of dollars over to this other country? I don't really know anybody from there. I don't really know anybody from there. I don't really understand how it's an existential threat to us personally. I don't get it and I can't afford eggs. So if any billions of dollars is going anywhere, send it over here first.

I think that's the feeling a lot of Americans have. I think if the economy was absolutely flourishing, we don't give a fuck about US aid. We don't care about the plays they're doing in the Philippines or whatever the fuck they want. But in America, when times are tough, naturally, and I think it's a very reasonable response We start looking at where the money's going. Mm-hmm You know what I mean? Like if you're not spending a lot of time with your dad

But your dad's out here doing all this other shit you have some resentment towards all those other things your dad's doing you want to hang out? So I think in those moments It's up to those countries that are getting help to show us the value that they're bringing to us. You have to find a way to communicate that value. Otherwise, Americans start feeling taken advantage of. Now, we might not be. And you have to leave that space open. I think people are like, they're determined that they know exactly what's going on. There's a little bit of an addiction to conspiracy in general. They're very exciting and fun. They make people feel really smart. Like, you know something nobody else knows. That's the quickest way to feeling smart. But I think there is a burden on any country that we're giving money to. It could be Ukraine.

It could be Israel. It could be fucking any other country. There's a burden on them to understand what they're bringing. I think partially that was the mineral deal they were doing with the Ukraine. I think it was like, I think it was like, listen, we need to, you need to give us a reason why we should continue giving you weapons. And that would have maybe pacified the American people. We'd be like, oh yeah, we got all their minerals. So honestly, we get shit cheap and it's actually beneficial to us.

So I think Israel need to figure out what that mineral shit is. And just, and you have to do that for a geopolitical reason because you have to convince the American public it is worth sending our money that can make our eggs cheaper or whatever we believe. It doesn't matter if that's reality, it's perception. What do we believe to be true? You got to figure that out because it feels like in America right now that support is low. And when the economy is tough, the ideological wars don't go as far.

Like, can you explain that is great. Like, if things are expensive and I'm having a hard time buying food or supporting my family, I don't give a fuck about communism. I don't give a fuck. I don't care about terrorism. I don't care about none of these supporting democracy. You're like, who cares? That is a place of privilege where we could worry about your issues over. My house is communist. We're all splitting one omelet.

This is hard. Like, I. Focus on the communism here, not over in Vietnam or whatever. Let's do this. 100%. And so the second the economy gets tight, everyone's like, all right, where's the money gone? Yeah. I do think that some of the frustration in Gaza is that,

and maybe there is, and I'm missing it, but I don't see enough Jewish people speaking out against what the Israel government is doing. Like, I'm not it, but I don't see enough Jewish people speaking out against what the Israel government is doing like I'm not subscribed to like What's I don't know one of your institutions? But I just don't see it So it's like it seems like all Jewish people are in support of what's going on over there because no one's being out against it That is and then yeah, that's an interesting that's an interesting point too, which is like because even within Israel

It's quite divided right so but that is an interesting that's an interesting point too, which is like because even within Israel, it's quite divided, right? So but that is an interesting thing where it's like if you feel under attack, your knee jerk reaction is to support the side that you believe is defending you. But by doing that, you're supporting the actions of the government, which a lot of Americans feel is like, OK, you did the job and now you're twisting the knife. Now it feels like it's wrong. Now it feels like it's wrong. Now it feels like it's going too far. But then you're asking Jews to defend everything ever. But here's the other thing. You can make the argument.

Oh no, yeah, you could. It could be a slippery slope and I can understand why they wouldn't want to be like, I, we're doing this bad and then we're like, see? And now what else are you doing bad? I can see that. I have to morally prove myself to every person that I meet ever. But I think Americans, we did it once we we realized hey, there's no weapons of mass destruction We are here for no reason. This is wrong. Let's stop this. I think we called ourselves out on that shit

Have you apologized to Iraq? I feel like I haven't heard you say anything about it I put a post up Black squared it in Chile Say sorry to the Iraqi people right now We were like, it took us a while We definitely got our natural resources Say sorry to the Iraqi people right now. We were like, it took us a while. We definitely got our natural resources.

Took us to March 2025. But we were calling out, we were saying like, this war is wrong. Like, I think the people were calling, saying the war was wrong once we found out there weren't weapons of mass destruction. Well, here's the thing. There's a lot of people that aren't going to say is wrong. But another thing that we got to decide is like, we can't get caught up in right and wrong. We have to get caught up in perception. Perception is reality. And this is important for countries to understand.

The perception of Zelensky coming into the Oval Office, not wearing a suit, doing like a vague threat about it could affect you guys, and like being contentious with Trump and JD Vance, the perception to Americans, most of who aren't really informed about the conflict was like, hold up son, I gave you $400 billion and this is how you talk in our White House? Cut the money off. Now, there is much more nuance to what's happening in that war. There's much more nuance to what's going on in the world. Like if you talk to people that are from the countries that are around Russia, they get taught every single day in school

like Russia still thinks Estonia is part of Russia. You know, all those countries like we might be Russia one day. So like they have a different perspective, but it's up to those countries to understand American perspective. It don't matter what your reality is. It matters if you want the money and you want the support, you have to meet us where our reality is. You know, this is, we get into these discussions all the time in American culture

where it's like about like the trans debate or something like that. And you know, somebody goes, I don't want trans women competing against women in sports. And a lot of like left-leaning people will be like, oh, that's a red herring, and that's not actually a real issue. It's like, okay, that might be what you feel,

but you're not addressing what these people feel. It's like you do something to upset your wife, and then she's like, that upset me, and you're going, but that's not a real issue. Does that work ever? No. But I paid for the apartment. Exactly, they don't want to hear that shit, right? issue. Does that work ever? No. But I paid for the apartment.

Exactly, they don't want to hear that shit, right? You have to meet people where they feel. So a lot of times people get caught up in these like logical arguments and like, oh, but America actually did this, which is just as bad as that. That might be true and factually true, but the reality of what we live in is the perception is off

and you need perception on your side for the support that's gonna allow you to continue, I guess doing whatever you wanna do for your country. But then you're battling the emotional volatility of a populace rather than the logical coherence of the leadership. Welcome to geopolitics, my boy. But then you would hope like, okay,

we're dealing with like the logical leaders that are gonna support what's best for their people despite them not knowing what's best for them. I don't think we're dealing with, though. I think we're dealing with the logical leaders that are gonna support what's best for their people despite them not knowing what's best for them. I don't think we're dealing with them. I think we're dealing with, I think they're also reacting to the emotional volatility in their countries. I don't think it's surprising

that once this war starts ratcheting up, Putin starts going back to the Orthodox Church and talks about how important it is to be in church, in church to the foundation of family, when apparently before that, you never even saw him in one. So if you're gearing up for war, you want God on your side. He's making emotional moves.

Trump makes emotional moves all the time. People don't trust the food. Put the guy who says the food is bad as the leader of the food. That's what we did in America, right? We don't trust the alphabet agencies. Put the chick who says that these alphabet agencies are not working in the best interest of the people

in charge of the alphabet agencies. Like these are emotional reactions. Whether or not they'll be fruitful, we're gonna see. But you have to be aware of what people are thinking and you can't just go, you guys are stupid. It's like, all right, keep saying that, you're gonna lose money. I think that's like the skill of a leader. It's like, I mean, this is a movie,

so it's probably complete bullshit, but I've used this reference before, but I forget who came over. It was like the King of England to like get support for the Americans. Like the King came over and like, I think it was a, oh man, was it FDR told them is like, yo, you got to, if you want Americans who are German immigrants and Italian immigrants to go to war against Germany and Italy, to go to war against their relatives, their cousins, their uncles, you need to convince us that you are like us, that you are more like us than they are. You need to eat the hot dog. You need to wear some regular shit and eat a hot dog. Don't act like some king that we fought wars

to get away from. You need to feel like you're one of the boys. So you got this king who had eaten with a knife and fork and perfect manners going, all right, let me scarf a hot dog. And that's how simple Americans were. I'd be like, that motherfucker, we gotta die for him? He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

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That shit had me dying. So the point he's coming, somebody said, someone said, someone said, yeah, yeah, I bet you eat the Snickers from the top down so you feel the veins. Damn. That is good. That is how I eat it though.

How else do you eat a Snickers, bro? So what do you think we do in these types of situations? Yeah, what do you do when there's waning sentiment? Put yourself in the shoes of another government. You can put yourself in the shoes of Israel, Ukraine, whatever, it depends what cards you have to know how to play. For example, I mean, if you're China, then all of a sudden your cards open up way more.

Because why you have control of little TikTok and control not necessarily how people feel from the messaging you tell them, but rather what you subvert into the content of the app. What about America? Well, no, real quick, just on this one, this is really interesting. It's like right now there's this distrust of media, right?

Like if there's any reporting that's like protecting Israel, right? The knee-jerk reaction from people who are critical of Israel is, yeah, but they control the media, right? So you can write it off immediately. The subversive nature of TikTok is that it's everyday people in their bathroom

just saying some shit, and it pops up on your phone. You don't see some news ticker. In a weird way, we have more trust. That's fucking... So like the way you subvert the narrative is you have regular people echoing the sentiments instead of the professional journalists, which now don't have, we don't have the same faith in. Or what America did in the cold war with modern art or with rock music. And like in like in- What was the rock music thing?

Just like putting it into Soviet countries basically. Like putting into the Soviet Union, like sneaking in like albums and sneaking in Western influence. Or then even just like promoting modern art and like look at how free we are. And you're able to then win this culture war and the soft power.

People are like, man, America's pretty cool. We're not as rigid as over here. You know, they're not totalitarian, you know? And so with that, you can change the hearts of people and then get them to not fight as fervently for the country that they're technically named for. Israel, y'all need two more seasons of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Stat. Yes. Yo, Larry David, get off the couch and get back to cooking. That might be the only thing that could pacify Americans. A 22 episode season of Kirby enthusiasm, we'd be like, what's the deal with Hamas? Like. What if we bring back Seinfeld?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but we do need like Israeli soft power. You know what I mean? If like the Israelis really want to win it over, cause we got Jews and American, but we're just like, ah, they're American, you know? Like Larry Davis, he's American, right?

Seinfeld is American. You need an Israeli, you know? That's interesting, there is no relationship between America and Israel in terms of the Israeli people. Our idea of Jews is the American version of them, and then that's it. And it's kind of like just the Ashkenazi, New York, we don't really know Jews outside of white New York Jews.

We have no idea of the Dove Jews. Like the African ones, there's no concept of that in America. And I wonder if that like skews the perspective of like what's happening in Israel. You think it's just these white people that look like Seinfeld in Israel, right? When it's a bunch of darkies like Dove. Yeah, that's true. I mean, what is the what is the perspective of like an Israeli to an American? Like, what is that? Hasid? Yeah, like, really? Yes. I feel like, yeah. And I don't know if it's propaganda or what, but like you see Hasidic

who's power up on Twitter or like on Instagram, and they're just killing them. There's going off in the comments. I mean, they're fun to make fun of. You know, like the dude that would come over here sometimes, he would sit at the table. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Our handler. Yeah, we had. Yeah. Israel sent us a handler. Our impact delegate.

Exactly. That is what I think. We got an impact delegate. Yeah, like somehow this guy with a fucking yarmulke can walk into the studio. They're good. Yeah. He got assigned from the Israeli government. He's like, yeah, go look at these guys. They call each other gay. Yeah.

Fuck. I can't get Amsterdam or something. He's like, no, no, no. You go over there. Dude, how lucky is he? He could be in a bomb shelter. No, he's making gay jokes with us on Flickr. That's a week.

Exactly. Yeah, we need to look into this guy. Yeah, dude. All right, guys. Let's take a break for a second, talk about one of the most healthy sources of protein on earth Schmegma Oh, what does it say something different, but I thought schmegma they said had like the most high protein content

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and they'll be like, yeah, but America did this even worse in this time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think we care about that? We don't care about that. You are dealing with emotional people. There's that Jonathan Haidt book. It's called The Righteous Mind. Yeah. Read that shit. Read that shit. There's that Jonathan Haidt book, it's called The Righteous Mind. Read that shit. Read that shit. Okay?

Because you're trying to logically address what people are going through and just like arguing with your wife, that shit ain't gonna work. You can't reason people out of a position they didn't reason into. In the first place. Yeah. 100%. We are your wife. You gotta treat everybody like your wife.

Yeah. Especially on the geopolitical stage. You could do the strong man shit, but then you gotta be able to bang out Not everybody is strong. Yeah people try to do this turn like George Floyd and shit Well, they were like all black people like actually technically cops kill you guys the same as other people. How'd that make you feel? Like shit You know, you don't go. Oh, those are the stats well all and I'll... And all lives matter, like, come on, bro. You know, yeah.

So it's like, you need to be met emotionally. You need someone to acknowledge, like, yo, it does seem fucked up. I get why you guys feel that way 100%. Like, I see these videos, and it's fucking disgusting, it's terrifying, right? And then you could also go to cops and be like, listen, it's hard to be you.

It's hard to make those decisions in the moment. Like, that's a fucking tough job. Like, you're going out there, we're an armed public. You don't know who got a gun and who doesn't in America. Like that's a scary fucking place to be. You start there. But nuance is uncomfortable. It is very uncomfortable.

But it is more comfortable if you at least meet somebody where they're feeling. Like if you acknowledge what they're feeling and not make them feel like a retard for it, which is like what our, I don't even know if it's like our political rhetoric has become, it's just this like dunk on economy. It's like, you're stupid because, you know,

I'm right because. It does require a lot of like, like empathy to be able to be like, hey, I feel for what black people have gone through historically and currently in America, but also I feel for what cops are going through. And it's hard to feel like, oh, I understand what Ukraine's going through, but I also understand what Russia's going through.

I understand what Gaza's going through. I also understand what Israel's going through. Yeah. Do you think it would help if like a prominent Jewish person came out and was like, hey, you guys don't understand. We've been at war with these people for a really long time. Yes, maybe the government has been, has gone a little heavy handed with the response, but until you're in it, you really don't get it.

So you think that would help any sentiment? My concern is you can't start any discussion with you don't understand. OK, well, put it differently. I think that, hey, we got attacked. Like our response, you might deem it as excessive, but we feel this is what's necessary in order to like, end this conflict that's been going on for all these years. In my, again, I don't know, but my estimation, it doesn't feel like they're very concerned

with the perception of what's happening. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Like, I think people need to speak out more to help with their perception. Yeah, and I think that there's like a lot of like- Because without speaking out, we feel gaslit, like, oh, we can't say anything because you're just gonna call us anti-Semitic, and not us, I'm just trying to speak on-

Yes, yes, that that would potentially be thrown out 100%. Yeah, it's a really tricky situation. I don't know what, I think that what people wanna feel, the people who are really against this war, what they wanna feel is that they're right, that the war is bad and it's wrong and what's horrible what's happening. So it's going to require somebody on that side going, you're right, it's horrible, it's happening and this has gone too far and this is disgusting.

But we're still going to do it. Like, that's a very tricky position to be in. So it's like, but again, I think a major component of this that nobody's talking to is Americans not really knowing what we get out of to this support. Like, what do we get out of it? What is the concern? Like if we found out that Hamas was also behind all these potential terror attacks that were happening here and their base that organized them was doing that, and that there were four different attacks that were about to happen, and they were thwarted because of that intelligence, blah, blah, blah.

Then all of a sudden Americans might go, whoa, whoa, okay, okay, okay, we're under serious threat. Why'd you wait so long? You know what I mean? Like, we might feel under serious threat, so we're like, all right, if you gotta bang out, you gotta bang out, and we got you.

But I think Americans are removed from that threat. I know 9-11 was that long ago, but I think we are, we're quite removed. We're definitely removed from the existential threat of Russia. Like, we just don't feel it. I can't speak for everybody, but I Personally, I don't feel it. So we forget forget quick. I don't feel like Eric Adams is running for me. Yeah, we forget Go Invade us when we got Eric

So he'll have four Turkish airliners in Russia tomorrow. Okay, with bad bitches. The best airline you've ever seen. That's what I'm talking about. But then the question is, what if they can't find a justification for why America needs to support Israel? Is it a necessity for the state to then create propaganda? Or do they just say, hey, unfortunately we don't have anything?

So I think the concern right now is that like propaganda in its old form is no longer useful. Okay. Useful meaning, no sorry, effective. So like, I don't think the, I don't even know what the propaganda is anymore. Like I don't even think that- I think it's effective. But like, what is the think the, I don't even know what the propaganda is anymore. I don't even think that- I think it's effective.

But like, what is the propaganda that they're giving us? Like, the only way the propaganda works is if you create a threat against me. Like, what is the concern for me? And I don't see that. The only argument I see is like, well, America would have done something 10 times worse and has in the past. It's like, all right, but you not us. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, okay. Yeah, so it's like, again, that's where I'm saying, it's like, we have to feel an actual, the propaganda has to induce an actual fear, which is what the propaganda for communism did. Like that's MacArthurism or whatever happened. We're like looking for people and, oh, are these Hollywood slubs,

they're actually fucking communists? The American way is gonna be completely destroyed. There was real threat to America. Right now, we don't feel threat from Hamas at all. And so the fact that we don't feel threat and we're supporting this thing, which we're seeing all these videos and it's like horrifying.

And you're just like, whoa. So what is, I don't even know if they're giving propaganda. Like what is the good, useful propaganda? Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the point is that there isn't really. Because Americans don't know why there's all this stake. Yeah. It's, I mean, so it's tricky. And this is one of the things that like, we're talking about like how leaders got to get support for things. We're not talking about whether

things are right or wrong, right? Right or wrong is in the eyes of the person that's doing the doing, right? Like I'm sure they feel justified. They're like, look, what happened to us? We're responding to this attack. And I I'm sure they feel justified. They're like, look what happened to us. We're responding to this attack. And I'm sure Hamas feels justified. They're like, look what has happened to us. And then we did that. So both of them feel like they're in the right

and the other is in the wrong. And we're sitting over here going, what's this got to do with us, yo? Eggs are fucking $100. Why'd they get 40 billion when eggs are $100? You know, buy $40 billion worth of eggs before we go do this shit. So you need to massage, if you want support, you need to work on that.

Because if not, you are going to have so many people asking questions about this. I think if the economy was absolutely flourishing, everybody's rich, and Bitcoin's at $100, I don't even think we're looking about what's happening in Ukraine. I think everybody's trying to buy a G-Wag. Everybody's trying to start up some business on Instagram. Like, when the economy's doing well, Americans, we don't even look outside. We only look outside for vacation.

We're not looking where the money goes. It's like everybody gets robbed. Everybody who makes a lot of money, like an athlete or a rapper or something like that, like a musician, everybody gets robbed when they're making all the money. They don't realize it until they default on their house And then they're like well my money manager took five million in this person. You don't notice that in the moment. Mm-hmm

Yeah, when I was to pay taxes, I'd like unsubscribe from HBO Look to see what's going on But then HBO send me an email and be like you watch these shows this past year like always give me my propaganda Point tell me what I paid for be like, you watched these shows this past year. And I go, oh, that's. Give me my propaganda. That's a good point. Tell me what I paid for. HBO, that's a good point. And then HBO set up a terror squad from Netflix to shoot up my house.

I go, whoa, we gotta get to it. What the hell's going on? I mean, that is my evil statecraft. If I was like the Machiavellian king of Israel, you prop up Hamas terror cells in America. Okay? Secretly, surreptitiously, through some other countries, some type of proxy war.

And then they cause domestic terrorism within the United States. And then we go, Hamas can't exist anywhere. We gotta get rid of Hamas. Whatever Hamas exists, we're rooting it out. Now you're not suggesting that they do this. This would be- I've just been reading 48 Laws of Power, so.

That seems like a very effective book to learn how to deal with these things. Exactly, so now I've become a master of power and deception in life. But like, I don't know, if I was an evil, you know, world builder, that's what I would do. If we don't care about you, you're not getting our money. Did you learn to hit the tides yet? No, that shit is fake. I think Al could be hitting the tides 100%.

I know I can. The fuck? He thought it was white I'm still not in that Pass life regression shit We need a hypnotist on the pod to hypnotize you I think you're going down immediately I wouldn't let you guys do it here, fuck out of here

No you're gonna have me kissing my ass I was about to say I'm gonna come back to you and kill myself Fuck out of here We did, we got a mentalist at the last Marylou show. Okay. Oh, it was the best. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tell me what happened. This guy, Josh, the foodie magician. Okay. Which also, can we just point out, a lot of people think that Jews have magic. Yeah. Which I don't think that's true. Okay.

But every famous magician is Jewish. Oh. So you guys do have to answer for that also. Yeah. That it's just, there's a lot copperfield David Blaine This guy the foodie magician Houdini Houdini. Yeah, it infamously. We love that. We love magic So, I don't think Jews have secret powers, but you guys are the closest to having secret powers if we just look at magicians Whoa, I'll take it

But he went up on the show and like guests like all this crazy, like he knew the restaurant that I like, my favorite restaurant, rolled it down on a thing, revealed it, and then had it on an Instagram post from two months ago, like the name of the restaurant, everyone else's things. He guessed like some girl's like dog. And then all the black comics on the show were just fucking furious. Just watching the show just from the back, just like, what the fuck is going on? And we're supposed to believe they don't control the weather.

Fucking crazy. Piss off. You didn't come to my show. I went to the later one. We just had an annoying couple in the front that I was so happy. They went to the bathroom, the couple, and then while coming back, they both bust their ass.

Try to get back to the table. It was so good. And then while coming back, they both bust their ass. I tried to get back to the table. It was so good. I bet you tried to get up and bust their ass again. I had to run out laughing. I would have disrupted the show. I couldn't hold it. How often are you doing the show, monthly? Yeah, the last Tuesday of every month.

So the last Tuesday of every month, Mark does a show at Mary Lou, and Mark and Joey Avery, they run a show at Mary Lou, great comedy show and awesome venue. I used to go to, used to be a place called Cafe Orlin. And Jamil and I used to have breakfast there every single week of our lives. The first podcast I ever recorded in my entire life

that never saw the light of day, me and my boy Bobby, you guys know Bobby, recorded at Cafe Orlin just on a random like Zoom, Zoom mic with no actual microphone. What was the discussion of that podcast? Just some shit but yeah so like it's a great show I've done it you guys should go check it out and it's the last Tuesday of every single month so have you posted tickets for the next thing yet no we're actually be posting today okay so today we'll come out go get them shits it's

fantastic they do two shows a night and you never know who's gonna pull up you guys have some nice little yeah we've had a good little lineup. Yeah, I like this. I like this a lot. I'm very fun. Very fun. Yeah, it's a good time All right. What else we got? We can run through some feelings no facts real quick. Let's get it. You saw Kanye talking to fake Rogan. No poor Kanye Poor Kanye. No poor Kanye fuck Kanye. Did you see this click it? The Kanye goes on on Twitter. He's like guys. I'm playing another podcast with Joe fuck Kanye. Did you see this? Click it. Kanye goes on Twitter, he's like, "'Guys, I'm playing another podcast with Joe Rogan, "'here you go.'"

And then Rogan tweets at him and goes, "'Yeah, that's not me.'" Do you think Kanye did that on purpose? He gotta know he's not talking. What's up? What's up? Can't let him have it all, man. Come on.

Do you think he's just doing this? He knows he's not talking to Rogan. Got it. Yeah. Some people point out, oh, it's fake text messages and da-da-da-da. Yeah. And then, like, he put the whole thing together. There's also another...

Oh, you really give Kanye that much credit? Honestly... I really couldn't believe that he was talking to... He thought he was talking to Rogan. Maybe. I bet you he was trying to get on and then it wasn't really lining up, and so then he put it out in the universe. Oh, to try to force his hand?

Something like that. Like, I don't know. But Rogan's not that tight. No, not at all. No, no, this is just, yeah, sad. I think somebody just hit him with like, hey, this Rogan is my new number. He just started. Oh, he believed it. Yeah.

Wow. I mean, yeah, I guess that would get me. That would get you. Fish and scam? Oh, I get fish all the time. Also, shout out Rogan, man. That was a fun episode. The paddle community internationally is going crazy.

Oh yeah, it's lighting up. Yeah, because we spoke about paddle, like he didn't know what paddle was. And it's also, it was so interesting, like Rogan knows pretty much everything. So him finding out about something is like rare. And like, he was like, wait, what is this sport? Like, he literally knows every,

he talks to every expert in every field. And then I bring it up, it was so cool just to see every like paddle page talking about it. I don't know what the, what it's similar to. Like, it's like we're like part of like an indie rock band or something like that. And then we get mentioned on MTV or something. Yeah, it's a new sport.

You're right. It is new. But it was cool to just talk about it on like the biggest platform in the world and then also see all the people in the community be really excited about it. Yeah. It also just shows like, obviously, everybody knows the biggest platform in the world, but it is, I imagine, quite validating for this sport that we're all obsessed with, that we have to tell people is not pickleball every single day to get spoken about on this thing. And then Rogan being excited about it. Well, that's what I would chose the best. Is that you tell him something new and he goes,

I'd love it. I'd want to know about this. Tell him what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas Alex over here. That shit is gay. It usually is in gay shit. Do you see, y'all recording yourself playing

I am like, what do you want for Christmas? I go, Paolo. But you act like that's new. You match all the time anyway. I know. Nah, but you gotta flex when you're on the court, bro. You gotta stunt on them. Yeah, I mean, you even have to tie head bitch shit. Like Agassi.

That's why you're matching with a couch runner? You know how like when we would play ball back in the day, like the dude that had the perfect basketball outfit was always ass. Always ass, yeah, that's me. But now I get why they did that. Because up to the point when they play, they don't really look like ass.

Mm. Yeah. And they, so you basically have like that 15 minutes of warmup before the person that you're playing against know you suck, where you're like, all right, I got it. Like when we were in Dubai and we were in Abu Dhabi, they gave us the paddle shirts with our names Oh, yeah, so I'm showing up to the court with a fucking name on my back You're Emirati

So, so my birthday's next week and so for This week and I'm going to a tennis hotel I've heard about these Five six different courts. Yes all year round. They have like different trainers there and shit like that And so players just come in and out all inclusive. Where are you? Where is it in Dominican Republic? Yeah So my shorty would just be on the beach. I'm going to be playing all day. Perfect birthday. This is like, perfect. This is the dream.

Even Adal has it in Mallorca. I think people go for the weekend. They don't have a paddle hotel? They... Shulpsy, you need to do that. I need to make it. You need to do that. So basically any vacation that we try to make up,

we're first looking at, Jason and I are going like, OK, where's the paddle, right? And we thought that we had that locked in with St. Barts. But getting anything to a Caribbean island is just this mound of bureaucracy you have to get through, even for these rich, bougie people. At the other day, there's something funny about government, is even the richest, most bougie people,

they gotta tuck their cock between their legs and beg some local mayor, please, can I get my panel court? And the mayors just go, eh, we're too busy, we can't do this shit. So they didn't have it up. But every vacation I try to take, I want to make sure that it's paddle. So what you're doing, I'm like so envious of, it's unbelievable. My girl's on board. I was like, oh, she gets to go to the beach. Yeah. You guys have a nice breakfast together. You have a nice dinner. I play. And then you play in between.

And she hangs at the beach. She reads. Great. Tell me this isn't an awesome vacation every year playing tennis every day very white But having a whole week for your birthday a whole week for your birthday very black We take it over the sport we got cocoa we got Sheldon we got a few that's good. Yeah, that's good point Yeah, there are a few. Yeah. Yeah, we're doing good Tell me we gonna come for paddle, bro I would love that. I would love that because you are kind of like imprisoned Steven a Smith was a guy to a beef with LeBron. Yo. You saw this?

Yeah. Stephen A for president, bro. Yo, Stephen A is a, he's, that's a real one right there, bro. A lot of people would be terrified of beefing with LeBron because of the leverage he has over the sports media. And Stephen A don't give a fuck, bro. It's actually interesting. I wonder if you't give a fuck, bro. It's actually interesting. I wonder if you cannot give a fuck more

now that information is decentralized. Like he has his own podcast. Like he doesn't need ESPN. Even if ESPN was like, hey, that's the golden goose, don't piss off LeBron, he'd be like, all right, I just won't talk about it over here, I'll just get all the ratings on my podcast. So I wonder if you're getting a more honest version

of sports journalism where back in the day it was very much curated. So curated to you get scoops You need to get all this stuff and he just got a hundred hundred M So they're not upset of what he's saying about Lebron. He said they're like, yeah run it up But there's a big misstep on the Bronda. Can you tell me what it was about? I mean it was just like keep my son's name out your mouth type thing son Your son is a professional athlete, LeBron. I get, I get, what's that?

I don't think it was about his son specifically playing. It was something that he compared Carmelo and his relationship with his son to LeBron. Oh. And it was like, it was sort of like a weird little like sneak test from what I understand. And So he wasn't insulting the way he played the game.

He was insulting like his role as a father. Yeah, it seems more like that, to be honest, from what I understand. Like, I was reading up on a bunch of people that were, like, sort of pinning it in, like, the time code of what he was saying. Yeah, but he said a bunch about Bronnie, so it's like, I'm pretty sure he's just tired of him constantly bringing up his son.

Well, look, here's the reality. But he just made it 10 times. So, like, this is one of the quotes he said. I'm pleading with Bron James as a father, stop this. And in regards to Bronnie look, here's the reality. But he just made it 10 times. So this is one of the quotes he said, I'm pleading with LeBron James as a father, stop this. And in regards to Bronnie's playtime in the NBA. Right. And the idea is the only reason Bronnie's there is because he is LeBron's son, which is a perfectly reasonable excuse. Now, I will say there's G League games where Bronnie seems to be going off.

So but when he plays at the elite level, he doesn't have he doesn't have any numbers that reflect his ability to play in the end. That's what I believe Stephen A is saying, where it's like he's not ready. Yeah. Yeah. And then the bronze coming at him like, yo, as a father, stop talking about my kid. So this is a tricky thing. It's like because your father's in this advantageous position, you're going to be able to bestow certain opportunities

upon your kid. And he even mentioned this before. He's like, I see white people do this all the time. They get their kids jobs that they don't deserve. So I support you doing it. But at the same time, that doesn't mean it goes without criticism. Just like it doesn't go without criticism

when you see the Nepo baby shit with white people, with Jews, with anybody, right? It's like, we criticize the Nepo babies. We like to see people who have earned things and deserve things. Yeah, we just don't have like a commentary for hedge funds. We should. We should. We shouldn't have a Stephen A for hedge funds.

And every week they just go through all of them. They're like, yo, this trade, this person hired this guy, that was fucked up. They got money from this person. That'd be fire. We should just have a watchdog that just goes off on all the financial issues. It's just so boring to look at all that financial. Stephen A financial sure even make it awesome person makes it a monk before they get

Also that anyway the point is is like I guess you can't have it both ways like you can get your kid a job That maybe he doesn't deserve But you can't also say nobody's allowed to criticize him and if he doesn't deserve it This is a merit-based business sports. You're gonna get extra criticism deserve it. This is a merit based business, sports. You're going to get extra criticism. So I get it as a father, like you want to ride for your kids, a hundred percent understand that, but it's not going to stop it. Like LeBron can say whatever he wants. The only thing, the only reason I would say don't do it is because it's just going to put more gas on it. That's what he did. Yeah. Yeah. And this is like the second thing in the past week that I've heard

LeBron saying about the media. What do you say? Like he was talking about this thing with who was it? Anthony Edwards, I think, where he was like, or I forget, Tatum, where he was like, why do you want to be the face of the league so you can just get criticized all the time, get criticized every day, day in, day out, everything you do picked apart by the media.

So it feels like at this point in his career, he's like, I should be beyond this, but I'm still getting nitpicked at every single turn. You know what's interesting, man? Is that I don't know if this same criticism would happen 10 years ago. Lebron has one probably year left. He might do two or three,

he could play as long as his body holds up and his body looks great. But let's say he's got one or two years left. When the media knows you have one or two years left, you don't have the leverage that you had when you have the next decade to dominate the sport. The media is moving on and finding new stars. They're not as reliant on you for the success of the league

as they were in the past. Like it's in the media's best interest if you're a superstar for you to be a superstar, because the bigger you get, the more attention these people in the past. Like it's in the media's best interest if you're a superstar for you to be a superstar, because the bigger you get, the more attention these people in the media get. I think it's probably one of the arguments for protecting, they say they protected Jordan, right? It's just like, can you just not post bad shit about the golden goose and let us And that's a difference though. I feel like they've always talked shit about Braun. Yeah, it's's very little but they've always done it throughout his career. He wasn't clutching the beginning, right? You're right. I'm wrecking in the finals. Like he never got the Jordan treatment and maybe that's why he's disgruntled about

Yeah, but why do you think that is? I Think just too much competition in sports media and it's like, oh wow, that's interesting It's like you need a take and there's 40 different shows and they're all gonna have a take. And what's the most interesting take is saying that one of the greatest of all time is actually not the greatest. And that's what we do just with everything.

So imagine if you're him, he's like, yo, look at what I've done. And you're still. And that probably fuels you when you're like 28. But when you're 41, you're just like, no. And you've already done everything. You've won all the records, you're the lead scorer. Like you've done everything and you're like,

finally this will shut them up. Nope. everything and you're like, finally this will shut them up. Nope. And then you're like, fuck this. Yeah, because your greatnessism will shut them up or not. And then I wonder if there's even a part of him that's like, I've been subject to this my entire life. My entire personal life picked apart. I can't live in privacy.

Everything sucks. Now I'm putting my son through this. So he's probably trying to squash it early, like, yo, chill. And that's not good. You can talk about me, but chill out on, oh, that's a good ass point. And I wonder if he feels like a little bit of a sense of like, yo, I'm putting my son through this terrible bullshit

I put myself through. And he's a great player, but also like, we're good. Like, I did this because I came from nothing in Akron, Ohio. But my kid doesn't necessarily have to do this. He really doesn't have to go through it. If he doesn't want to. But now he's going to be subjected to it even more scrutinized.

I was compared to Jordan, and now my he's going to be subjected to it even more scrutinized. I was compared to Jordan and now my kid is going to be compared to me. And like any probably feels personally responsible because he knows his son doesn't belong in that spot. And it's because he leverages something to get in that spot. So now you're responsible for all that hate he's getting. I wonder if he's grappling with that thing where where it's like, is this Bronnie's dream? Is he doing this to impress me?

Have I kind of like pushed this ambition onto him? Like, that's a tricky one. And through no fault of his own, like just by becoming this virtuoso at this thing, your kids are gonna wanna emulate you. You see how much people admire your father, you wanna do that thing that they admire your father for naturally.

I wanna be a comic just because my dad told funny stories. Fact. Yeah. And so imagine your dad's the greatest ever. that thing that they admire your father for naturally. I want to be a commenter because my dad told funny stories. Facts. Yeah. So imagine your dad's the greatest ever. You're like, yeah, you want to take a part in that lineage. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. It's tricky.

And I feel for LeBron. I wonder if he justifies it like... I feel for both Bron and Bronny. Oh, sure. But I wonder if LeBron justifies trying to squash the criticism by saying, you don't talk about any other G League player like this. Yeah. Like he's like, yo, just treat him like every other G League player and don't

cover him, which you do. So he goes, he might think in his brain, he might be you're just doing this to either get at me or because you know it's clicks, but it's not genuine or authentic because you don't talk about G League players at all. But he's gotta reconcile the fact that- They're not treating Bronny as a G League player. But he'll see it like that. I bet you in his mind, I bet you LeBron is like, no, Bronny should be in the NBA

and he should be in the G League. Like he's better than these other guys. I see him hoop with them. Like he actually has guys on his team that I'm sure he's like, Bronny's better than him. I don't even know why the fuck we got this bum on the team. And also there's that bias of being a dad. Like everything you see in your kid is gonna be the best.

So I wonder if he genuinely believes that the criticism is unfounded and he's reacting in kind. And it probably is because the fact that he's balling in the G League, like it's probably a mental thing when he gets in. Also like when we saw him at the garden, like he gets put in with 30 seconds left, and obviously they're gonna try to get him some buckets.

But keep in mind. They call it garbage time for a reason. Facts. But think about it, if you're playing D on the last 30 seconds of a blowout, you're also the bum on the other team, and you're like, I ain't letting this kid score on me. So he's not going against garbage time defense.

He's going up against some young whippersnapper who's like, Bronnie is not scoring on me. This guy everybody calls a bum is gonna score on me, now I'm gonna lose my 10 day contract? Fuck that, I'm putting the clamps on this kid. So he's probably going against weaker defense in the G League just in terms of effort. Yeah, because they're treating him just like another player probably there's probably a little ego. I'm sure

Compared to the league. It's like yeah, but different level. Yeah, it's tricky man as a dad. I get it It's a dad. I get it. Hmm, but But as yeah, but that was like zelinski he should have did that in private That's the mister. Yeah, you know you got Stephen a's number. You could have just had that same combo in private Also, Stephen a told us like he's when somebody tells me in confidence something I maintain that confidence He's like that's how you build trust for the players. Remember he was on the pod saying that he's like There's a bunch of things that people told me in confidence I don't let that go out there in the world. If something happens publicly, I will address that. Yeah.

Yeah, that was like an emotional. Yeah. Yeah, a little misstep right there on bronze part. A little misstep right there on bronze part. I wonder if he has told him in private. Ooh. I wonder if he's like, hey, just chill with all that. And then didn't chill.

Yeah, it's possible. It's possible. What you saying, Dov? Look at Mark's text for some breaking news. Oh, what do we got? Ukraine agrees to US led ceasefire plan if Russia accepts. So so real quick, just on this. This is this something that I've I've been thinking about a little bit recently.

I'm not talking about the fringe groups, like the fringe right or the fringe left. I'm talking about the average, just kind of like working American. I think that we agree on almost everything, not in terms like what is a better functioning government or that kind of stuff, in terms of like human to human basis. You know, like I don't want these people to suffer. I want people to have an opportunity. Some people think that that opportunity is better when things are privately run. Something people think it's better when there's a little bit bigger government that can offer

assistance. But like on the human to human level, that what they what we want for each other is very similar. So our reaction to this administration and the past administration is really based on optimism or pessimism. So I treat this administration with optimism. Like I see Trump's tariff stuff and all these other things and I'm like, okay, it's hard to litigate something geopolitically in the public eye

but maybe this is his version of getting a better rate by throwing these tariffs and they come back and they go, okay don't give us a hundred percent just do ten percent and then we'll lower your tariffs that we impose on you like like and I wonder he's negotiating, unfortunately he has to negotiate in front of the world and he can't exactly tell America, yo, by the way, we were just, I'm not really going to do 100, we're just trying to get them down because once he does that he loses the leverage, right? So I treat it with a little bit more optimism. Whereas someone who doesn't like Trump, but still just like a reasonable person, he or she looks at it with pessimism. They're like,

he's going to tank the economy, he's going to destroy this. But it doesn't mean that we don't want the same thing. We want an America that flourishes, and we just get caught up in the tribal rhetoric. But I really think that's, and then the same thing with the Democrats. There was a pessimism that we looked at the Biden administration with the people that were more sympathetic to what Trump was saying, right? We're like, yeah, I don't think America will be as good if that happens. I think that more people will suffer or at least not be able to move out of this very difficult situation they're in.

But in terms of what we want for each other, I think it's very similar. Yeah. I think we just get caught up in this like it feels so black and white. It's really not. It's like, yeah, we want things to be cheaper. Democrats are like, yeah, I think that the Democrats have a way of doing that. I think it's going to be better for people. And Republicans are like, yeah, I actually don't think that that's been working. Let's try something different. But the way that it's spoken about online is so good versus evil that I think we think that we're on opposing sides in terms of the end goal. We're really not.

It's just, like for example, Charlemagne is more pessimistic about what Trump's administration is doing. I'm more optimistic about it. I'm sure if the Democrats were in power, he would be optimistic about what they're doing and their strategies. I might be more pessimistic about it. We both want the same thing.

We want better trade deals. We want better things for America. We want better trade deals. We want better things for America. We don't want some shit that's fair. Fuck fair. We want to come out ahead. I want a better deal with Canada, a better deal with Mexico, a better deal with China. I want to win all that shit. And it's kind of a, I feel like where I sit is like a dumb position sometimes because like I feel so jaded by political discourse that I just am like, wait and see. Which I've said before, but like it's kind of a cop-out, fence-sitting answer. But at the same time, I'm like, is the ceasefire good? Yeah.

It's like, all right, it's good. Yeah. But then all of a sudden, part of Ukraine gets absorbed. And you're like, is that good? That doesn't seem good. And then Soviet Union reorganized. You're like, is that? Like, I don't, you know what I mean?

Yeah. So it's like, until it actually affects me on a personal basis, or the American society at large, I kind of try to reserve judgment where I'm like, just wait and see. Which these are in a good position necessarily from like a broadcasting standpoint. You know what I mean? Because people want to know what the shit is.

They want a feeling, they want an opinion. But I also think like sharing that sentiment is important because there's people that also feel that way. There's a lot of people that feel like that. Because this shit really is a Rorschach test, right? Like, and I'm exposed to my bias. I see that there's a ceasefire deal, right? So this is my bias right here. I'm like, all right, Trump pulled the money after that meeting,

and all of a sudden we got a ceasefire deal. Right? Now, that might not have been how it has gone at all. Some other shit might have happened with European support and then somebody else backdoored with Putin and had a conversation, whatever. But in my bias mind, I'm like, see, sometimes you gotta play hardball, and then it ends up working out. Let's see how these tariffs work out over here. And which goes back to perception, because I'm pretty sure Trump is going to frame it that way.

Of course. And then his base would be like, see, I told you so. And then his opposition will be like, this had nothing to do with you. This was actually negotiated by Saudi Arabia, and there's another deal or whatever the fuck. Oh. But yeah, all the noise online is just like sports analysts. Everybody wants to be first to the take

and you need to have the more outrageous take. Salacious, outrageous take. How are you gonna get views? Yeah, like you almost wish that there's a way that you could be, like how far does the pendulum need to swing before the most salacious thing is the most trustworthy thing? Like, I feel like we in those times.

Well, I don't know. Like every time I think we are. And then like you could say, wow, conspiracy theories. And it seems like all Twitter's like, yep, that's fact that that is a hundred percent. Like, I wonder when conspiracies are just so mainstream that there's like this thirst for, all right, just tell me the boring truth. Oh, you mean when it swings back.

I thought you meant the OK. Like, I feel like right now, we're like at the top of the swing where. Conspiracies, everything like I'm like, I can't wait to where like some doctor comes on and goes, all right, we did all the tests. This is the boring truth about vaccines. This shit is boring, but this is what it is.

But we like story. We like a good story. Conspiracy's a good story. You're right, no, but I wonder like, the societal value in conspiracy is like, you know some shit that nobody else knows. But if it becomes so popular, right? The new conspiracy will be the truth that thwarts the conspiracy. that nobody else knows. But if it becomes so popular, right,

the new conspiracy will be the truth that thwarts the conspiracy. Everybody knows the conspiracy. Like, I remember I first read that Dan Brown book. Yeah, Da Vinci Code. Da Vinci Code. And I remember just being at parties in college, like, yeah, but this painting actually means this. And the fucking, fucking ninth tempur.

And it was just great. It felt so cool to share that information. Oh, this is you at the fucking museum. You're like, Freddie. Do you see the symbols? Simone women are bad for this reason. But I wonder, and then once that book became so popular, regurgitating that information was less,

like there's less dopamine. Yeah, because you'll tell people, they go, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I read that book too. The CIA killed JFK, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then someone's gonna be like, well, did you know there's actually a crazy guy named Lee Harvey Oswald?

Everyone's gonna be like, no way, that's crazy. Right, like I wonder if once conspiracy theories become so mainstream that you no longer get the dopamine hit from sharing that like secret information. That now the cool information to know is, yeah, I mean, 9-11, like this guy was on a job and he had the information, he decided to not look into it and he fucked up in order to cover his ass.

He had to blanket statement that this really happened and that's why it appears like it's this grand conspiracy, but it's really just incompetence at the highest level and somebody trying to cover up or whatever the fuck it is and then people go what really happened like I can't wait to society is so aware of every conspiracy that the boring truth is the hot shit mmm I don't know. I don't think we ever get there. I don't think it happened. I think it was move on. Because what you just said was boring. I know. I know. What happened to building number seven? That's what we want to know.

And then even if the truth comes out, then people go, oh, we can't trust the authority of where the truth came from. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you kind of see with like alien bubbles or people are like, oh, aliens are real. Everyone's like, no, you're crazy. And then everyone's like, no, aliens are definitely real. And then eventually the government's going to be like, yeah, aliens are real. And's like, no, you're crazy. And then everyone's like, no, aliens are definitely real.

And then eventually the government's gonna be like, yeah, aliens are real. And people are gonna be like, this is a Psyop. This is trying to make like global control. These aliens are fake. And so aliens- They're actually underwater type shit. Yeah, like you go from, oh, aliens are real.

They're covering it up to then, oh, they're obviously flouting aliens to trick us. So it's like, I think it just shifts form just due to the subversion of authority. It's like not. Yeah, I don't know if it changes. People need storytelling and they need a search for truth. And there's always like these threads of truth

that exists within all these conspiracies that people wanna tie onto. God damn. Yeah, dog. I just wanna know the world isn't as bad as it feels. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse.

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