Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Steve-o On Jackass DRAMA & Johnny Knoxville BEEF

Episode Date: June 23, 2022

Steve-o has joined the greatest hang in the universe to talk Johnny Knoxville, the first stunt he backed out of, & working with SteveWillDoIt. Strap in and come hang out ☠️🤙🏼 00:00 - start 01:09 - "Greatest Entertainer in History" 08:46 - "Who's Johnny [Knoxville]?" and Failed Negotiations 14:03 - Steve-O steals Johnny Knoxville's Website 15:46 - Steve-O INSANE dog story 25:46 - the toy car went where?? 31:31 - Knoxville, CTE, Bam Margera and staged pranks on the show 42:58 - Steve-O doesn’t want kids but COULD 49:14 - Prank for next tour: Plastic Surgery 58:29 - “how big can I go?” 1:07:22 - Stunts are jokes, power of YouTube & social media 1:24:08 - Difference between NYC and LA comedy scene 1:32:32 - Steve-O’s dad is a legal drug pusher

You were saying something about you're going to replace Johnny Knoxville. I don't want to get in trouble on another fucking podcast. Who's the biggest pussy on Jackass? I'm glad that you're not an instigator. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. And I'm incredibly excited to bring out today's guest. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest entertainers in history.

I agree. I truly believe in history. I agree. I truly believe this. I completely agree. If you're really looking at the amount of hours that you've been entertained and probably dying laughing, I'm trying to find someone who could compete with him. Yeah, just the breadth of content is nuts.

Nuts. Yeah. Nuts play a lot. Yeah. Nuts play a huge role in the content. That word was used specifically. Oh, you're good. You're good at this. You've done this before. I don't want to take any longer. I think it's time to bring out our guest. What do you think, boys? Let's do it.

I think it's time. Give it up right now. A big flagrant welcome to the one, the only Steve O'Leary. Here he is! What do you think about that, man? You think you are one of the greatest entertainers in history? Well, I... He can't say it.

He clearly thinks it. That pause was a confirmation. We saw those contract negotiations. The pause was... Because really what... Whether I'm better than anybody else is not important. Yeah. What I think is important is that we look at what I've done,

you know, shoving things up my butt, like things that are just like, nobody could argue that there's any real value. Right. Right. You know, there's nothing. It's not important. Exactly. Exactly.

Not important. However, I subscribe to the belief that many people, if not most people, don't actually enjoy their job, maybe aren't happy in their marriage, like have health concerns with any, any number of things, stressing them out and, and inter interfering with their serenity. And I'm not going to fix any of those problems. Yeah. But when people are engaged with my art, they're distracted from them. And that is a huge gift. That is a huge gift. And it is a noble effort on my part. So I'm not important. I am an asshole. But I am noble.

And I like to give myself the title of professional distraction therapist. Yeah. I would think that that is honest and pure. Thank you. Amazing distraction. It's hard to not, it's hard to look away when you are doing your thing. Do you consider it art? Sure.

And let me say, too, that distraction therapist is a very secondary title. My primary title is attention whore. That is what drives me in every decision that I make. Every action that I take. You want the attention. It's in my DNA. It's at my core. It's all I care

about is look at me, look at me. Why? Oh, we're going Oprah today. You're going Oprah today. How was your childhood? Were you molested? I'm not aware that I was molested in any way. Not aware you were knocked out.

Right. But, uh. Can we show extra? You don't have to be Sigmund Freud to guess that neglect from my parents play a role, not to disparage my parents, but my father was a wildly successful corporate businessman. Yeah. Pepsi, right? He was the president of Pepsi Cola in all of Brazil when I was six months old,

which is why after being born in England, I moved to Brazil at six months months old i saw that yeah spoke my first words in portuguese because i was raised by live-in maids oh wow and um and so yeah mom and dad weren't around a whole lot yeah i also grew up what was mom doing yeah that's what i'm asking yeah yeah my mama on my mom's side he He ain't learning a lesson. You know what I mean? Hey, on my mom's side of the family, every single, it never skipped a generation. Not once.

On my mom's side of the family, yeah. That's why you're sober, 100%. Well, it's not necessarily. Why? Because I'm the only person on my mom's side of the family who got sober. Oh, wow. Everybody else literally is already dead

from causes related directly to alcohol. Wow. Jesus. Cirrhosis of the liver, like, you know, this and that. It's all... Are you Native American or something? No, I just have... He's English, actually, which is second.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, but they're very drinkable. Now... Built for that. True. That doesn't include my generation. Gotcha. but my mom her brother her sister her mother her father all the way up to as far as we even know everybody uh was alcoholic and you know jesus a lot of suicide and and drugs and and stuff like that so So that perhaps plays a little bit of a role.

And I grew up in five different countries. I was going to ask that exact question. Did moving around a lot, was it easy to fit in by just doing crazy shit and people are like, I like that guy? Yeah. You know, I wish it was the case, but in reality, my acting out for attention really did not work well for me in grade school. Really?

Yeah. I was like, yeah, everyone, check it out. Dude, I remember in third grade getting everybody to gather around in the cafeteria and just unscrewing a salt shaker and just consuming it. Which you would think would be pretty awesome, but nobody thought it was cool. It was like, oh, weird, creepy. Was it Brazil? That was in Miami. And then in England in fifth grade,

and I love this story, but I remember it so well. Like fifth grade, you're 10 years old. And I had like one of my last baby teeth, like where I could just sense that it was starting to come loose. And I knew at that point that if you ripped out your baby tooth before it's ready to come out, it's just going to bleed like crazy. going to bleed like crazy. So I noticed this and I go into my fifth grade Spanish class and I just have this plan. So I immediately go and sit down next to the prettiest girl in the class, which otherwise I never would have done. Before sitting down, I say to this girl, I don't have to be in class today. I can leave whenever I want. And she's thinking like, okay, weird, creepy.

And then I sit down, class starts, and I just rip out this tooth like super violent, and all the blood comes. And with like a mouthful of blood, I raise my hand and say to the teacher, teacher, I'm bleeding, I got to go to the nurse. And the teacher says like, go, go. And I stand up, I turn to the girl, I go, told you so.

And I'm just like running through the halls of the school, like so proud of myself, just like, you know, gallivanting around. And that's just another example of how my acting out for attention did not win over my peers. I actually had a sixth grade report card where the actual comment that the teacher wrote, my homeroom teacher wrote, Steve is desperate for the approval of his peers, the affection and approval of his peers. But everything he does seeking this approval seems to have have the opposite effect seems to have the opposite

effect so so i that was the dynamic i just turned everybody against me i was very very not successful in in but was that the beauty of jackass is like all these guys that were all misfits in the world kind of found a group of people that they all got along with and kind of were understood by later in life it worked out very well for me. Yeah. And that is a great dynamic to jackass. But to answer the question. Which you're a very big part of and maybe the biggest part of.

And it'd probably be nothing without you. Just want to let you know. Well, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you deserve all the money you asked for. Because of the numbers. You're putting up real numbers. Do you know what I mean?

Well, thank you. Yeah. But for all the moving, I did. But let's talk about that. Like, who's real numbers. Do you know what I mean? Well, thank you. Yeah. But for all the moving, I did. But let's talk about that. Like, who's Johnny? Like, you know what I mean? You were saying something about you're going to replace Johnny Knoxville or something like that. You said you're coming for his spot.

That's what you said. I said nothing of the sort. Yeah. But I did fight pretty hard when the contract negotiations were happening. How much did you want? How much did you want? I didn't really get shit. No, no.

How much did you want, though? How much did I want? Five million. Was it a number, like a dollar amount or a percentage amount? It was, I'm trying to remember. Definitely, I wanted more points. Oh, okay. You wanted back end. Yeah, I'm trying to remember. Definitely, I wanted more points. Oh, okay. You wanted back end.

Yeah, I definitely wanted back end. That's always been kind of the model. He has a business. Savant, look at his dad. He knows what he's doing. Yeah, yeah.

And, you know, the reality is... Would you say you're the Pepsi of Japanese? Johnny the Coke? Is that what's going on? And you guys are like vying for the top spot?

I'm more of the linen. I'm more of the linen. Johnny the Coke? Is that what's going on? And you guys are like vying for the top spot? I'm more of the Lennon. Take that, Johnny. And there is no war.

Uh-huh. Sure. There is no war. Yeah. But the whole attention whore in me, the look at me, and Knoxville's always been, like, such a, like, a big brother, you know? And the Jackass director, Jeff Tremaine, has always been, like, this demented father figure, you know? And, like, Spike Jonze, who's also one of the— Legends.

He's just been this, like, godlike figure, you know? And, like, these guys, they're a pain. You know, you spend your whole life trying to get your dad to approve of you. And, you know, like, you always want, like, the privilege. You know, that's what it's like. That's what it's like. So going into that, everything that I was fighting for, I mean, really what I wanted was just for them to acknowledge, like, know steve-o for the last 10 years you fucking worked you've been killing it and i wanted just that acknowledgement yeah of uh

and did they give you that no you didn't get the points or the love fuck i didn't get shit but um in hindsight it was i mean and and up to that point in my career with Jackass, I had never once even countered an offer. It was always on every season of the TV show, every one of the movies. It was always merely an exercise in me finding out what they were willing to give me and accepting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that had eaten at me. And I just thought, man, I never stood up for myself. I never fought for more.

And I wanted to do it differently with this last movie. And in doing so, I've now had that experience. I've scratched that itch. It didn't get me anywhere. He bled. I'm glad that I don't have to spend the rest of my life wondering what it would have been like to fight for myself. And now I know.

It's not worth it, you're saying. It's really not. In the case of Jackass, I'm not saying it's not worth it to fight for yourself. Is Johnny like a ruthless businessman? I mean, the collective of Dickhouse Productions, which is what it is. Dickhouse Productions, which is what it is. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they're

really intense businessmen, but they're also absolute geniuses. I mean, it's unbelievable. I had so much fun watching it. I think the first time I even started watching this genre was when the CKY2K tape came out. And I remember me and my friends for a summer trying to tie

a leash on a bee after we froze it. Oh my god. They did that. Yeah, they did all these amazing pranks. It was so funny. I forgot about that. And then obviously Jackass came on and then it was just so entertaining. You could not look away. And you were this fucking superstar on it.

And Johnny's really stolen your look. He's starting to speak like you. He got teeth. He's coming for you, bro. He's coming for your shit, dude. I don't know that Knoxville's teeth aren't real. If they're not, he got them a long fucking time ago,

because I don't think they've changed. Have they? No, just kidding. They've not. I mean, dude, I can't take anything away from Knoxville or Dickhouse. And I'm glad that I tried to fight for myself. I'm happy that I had the experience. But in hindsight, and if there are any future jackass projects, I'm never going to bother with that again, because the reality is I have worked hard enough to set up all these other different revenue streams.

You're doing good. So the movie comes out and it's an engine driving all of my other revenue streams. So I might have the same exact contract as any number of the other guys on Jackass, but I get more out of it because I've got other stuff set up. Damn, that was a shot, yo. I don't know if you guys heard that. What was it? Yo I've got other stuff set up. Yeah. Damn, that was a shot, yo. I don't know if you guys heard that. What was it? Yo, I got other stuff set up. So I might get more out of it than these other guys.

The other guys. You didn't even say their names. But you're right. A lot of dudes. Dude, I don't want to get in trouble on another fucking podcast. No. Everything's fine. How did you know Johnny?

He just got a brand new website. He did? Yeah. He was going to check it out. Yeah. All right.? He just got a brand new website. He did? Yeah. He was going to check it out. Yeah. Let's check out Johnny's new website. I think it's a good thing for Steve-O to compete with Johnny's new website. Yeah.

I mean, that's the thing that Johnny constantly does. I feel like he's constantly on that view. I feel like if he just finally just quit that shit and just let you be great, the great guy that you are, then everything would be fine. But yeah, let's go check out his website. You want to see it? Okay. This is johnnyknoxville.com. Okay, alright. Sounds like it would be Johnny Knoxville's website. Yeah, I'm over 18.

Let's check it out. Oh, you have to be 18 to enter. I'm Johnny Knoxville. Welcome to my anus. Okay. Well, those are penises in there coming on Johnny Knoxville's hair, changing the color of it to gray. It's gray hair now, I think. And now it's

a guy with balls like a pit bull. And a cavernous asshole. Now we're inside the asshole for everybody who's not staying at home. Wow, okay. And it seems like all you can buy on Johnny Knoxville's website is Steve-O merch. Is this an elaborate prank?

That you're playing on Johnny Knox prank? Is this what this is that we're watching right now? It's a high-level prank war that we did engage in fairly recently. Okay, fair enough. And when we, that we being my team,

the Steve O. team, when we looked up johnnynoxville.com, we somehow found it to be available for purchase. And I bought it. I'm the proud owner of johnnyknoxville.com, and I would love to encourage everyone to go and see this incredible thing that I've built for them.

You should have t-shirts that are just johnnyknoxville.com as your merch. Yeah, I went into Johnny Knoxville's butthole, and all I got was this dirty... Why did you swallow cum? Why did I swallow cum?

Which time? I think what you're talking about is on... I only asked it to see Alex's reaction. Alex doesn't like to have white boy fun. You guys have a lot in common. You both have a definition of white boy fun. Yes, 100%.

But you guys both went to jail in Sweden. We'll talk about that in a little bit. That's great. But I want to hear about the cum swallowing. Never done it. Curious. I mean, actually, it ties directly into how and why I went to jail in Sweden. I feel like it would happen when you're in jail.

In 2001. It was 2001 when Jackass was brand new on TV. I packed up my car and drove cross-country to live in L.A. I packed up my car and drove cross-country to live in L.A. And when I got to L.A., Chris Pontius and I had a competition to see who could stay homeless for the longest. He was living out of his car. I was sort of living out of my car. Our objective was to each night find a different loose woman to spend the night with and just avoid ever getting our own place.

I lost the competition in very short order because I was a drug addict and really needed a place to hole up and do drugs. But for a time there, we were both staying at this one girl's house. Both of you sleeping with her? No. And she was out of town. We were watching the house for her.

We slept with two different—we brought two different chicks to the house. So we're watching this girl's house. She had a boyfriend, and she also had a dog. I think the dog was her boyfriend's dog. So I humped this Danish chick in, in her bed. Right. And like, and I get done as I used to do with my condom. I took it off, tied it in a knot and twirl it around like twirled it around and I threw it on on the floor okay thought nothing of it i went outside to the living room i'm smoking a cigarette and i see the dog this 10 pound boston terrier goes just running into the room and then you know then when i walk into the room the fucking condom's not

on the floor anymore and i'm thinking oh no what's no, what's happened? I'm going to vomit. So I'm like, the worst thing I can possibly imagine is that this dog has picked up the condom and taken it for a victory lap around the apartment and just dropped it somewhere where, like, the boyfriend's going to find it. So he's going to come back and he's going to be like, what the fuck is there a condom doing in my girlfriend's room?

You know, and also a bad possibility was the dog swallowing the condom and it getting wrapped up in its intestines and killing the dog. So I'm freaking out. And for the next, like, few days, I'm just doing drugs, staying awake, and just trying to follow this fucking dog around. Trying to follow this dog everywhere it goes. That's why you were doing the drugs. Stay awake. See where this dog's at. Exactly. I ended up passing out after a bender, and when I

woke up, I found a little pile of dog poo, and one of the... It was so beautiful. This one log of dog poo just morphed into the actual condom. Still intact? Totally still intact. And I grabbed my video camera and I grabbed my video camera,

I filmed it, and in filming it, I picked up, I pinched the ring of the condom and lifted it up in the up and it just crackled and crackled. And as it became fully like hanging, the piece of dog poo was just sticking out sideways and the whole condom with the load fully intact. It was like more than filling up the reservoir tip of the condom. Yeah.

And it was just the most, i called it the poo rubber and it was but the thing was that that inspired an idea where i thought okay well if a dog can swallow a condom plus i kind of like if you think about it i'd sort of sodomized the dog you came with a dog yeah i came with the dog It's mouth, actually. Yeah, I made it airtight. And so I thought that I kind of owed it to the dog. You know, if the dog, so I decided that I owed it to the dog, I owed it to myself, that I should swallow a condom myself. To make it even. Right. So if the dog can do it, then I can do it.

And so my first inspiration for this idea when I was on tour. You have an odd definition of payback. Like if I loan you $20, you just pay me $20. You don't need to suck someone's dick. So I go over to Europe and I'm like, okay like okay i'm gonna do a bit called the international drug smuggler i'm gonna put a bunch of weed into a condom tie it in a knot i'm gonna swallow it in one country fly to the next country and shit it out open it up and smoke it you're good that's where i got in trouble in sweden because i had swallowed this condom in norway i bragged to the

press about you know how like i thought i might die of intestinal strangulation because it's been over six days and it's still not coming out. Maybe it's blocking up my intestines. Who knows? The cops read about it in the newspaper and they arrested me after I shit it out and smoked it all. Still, I spent five days in jail in Sweden. And I made that a bit in my last multimedia comedy special. But each bit in my last multimedia comedy special that was like an old story,

I wanted to pay off with a new stunt. So I did another condom stunt. I asked my buddy Chris Pontius to come over to my house while my dad was there and go into the bathroom, put a condom on, and jack off into it, blow a good healthy load, and then come out and hand it to me in front of my dad. So I could say, Dad, that's real cum in this condom tied in a knot. And then I swallowed that. Was he finally proud of you? him tied in a knot and then I swallowed that.

Was he finally proud of you? He's proud of... Was that the inspiration for Crystal Pepsi? I mean, I definitely swallowed a hot load. It was still warm? He blew it and handed it to me. He literally handed it to me Within a minute of blowing that load Do you think any got on the outside? That's what you're worried about?

The outside? I don't mind the inside part But I think a little bit might have dripped on the outside You don't mind the inside part? You don't mind the inside part? But the dog, it went through the dog It's going to go through you This is a different condom

His boy came in But it's inside the condom None of the cum is going to go through you. No, it's not covered by, this is a different condom. His boy came in. But it's inside the condom. None of the cum is actually touching it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not Steve-O. I don't think any condom was past the knots. He don't even know.

I don't think because you're nutting in it and then you're taking it off and a little bit is left at the tip. Yeah, I think the tip. Maybe. Yeah, I think you have. But maybe I directly ingested my bro's cum. I love Chris Pontius. I'm okay with that.

Okay. Now you want to get really ready to barf. I don't know if I do, man. Here we go. It's close. Go. Keep going. I am close. The thing is that I'm now a much healthier guy.

I take better care of myself. Back in 2003 in Sweden, it took more than six and a half days. But this time, when I swallowed Chris Pontius' hot load, it came out in like 12 hours or something. Less than 24 hours, I shit out this condom full of cum. And I went running upstairs. My dad was still staying at my house. Dad, Dad, check it out. It already came out. And so I had it,

and I saved it. Then when I actually taped the special, I invited my dad out onto the stage with Chris Pontius. Oh, my fucking goodness. I unpacked this actually shit-covered cum-filled condom,

which I had shit out, and it was all brown and fucking... And I said, Dad, I'm swallowing it again. How many months apart? How many months apart? It was, uh, I swallowed it

again. With the shit all over it? I mean, yeah, yeah, it's tough to shit something

out and not have any shit on it. Yeah, that, that, and, and I want

to give credit for that idea to, this is good, Tony Hinchcliffe. Oh, really? Fuck you, Tony. Fuck you, Tony. Fuck you, dog.

I had a draft of the show because I was cutting it all together with the multimedia. And I had a draft. I was getting ready to tape the special. And I brought Tony Hinchcliffe over when I screened it for him to get notes and feedback and stuff. And Tony saw me swallow the condiment from my dad. And I think I said I'd still have it. He goes, dude, swallow it again on stage of the special. I was like, I think that might be too much.

No. No. That might be too much, but I'm in. Okay, anything you've said no to? Yeah, I want to know what you'll say no to at this point. What's the prank that you said, no, I'm not doing this? Are you asking that because the last video I put on my YouTube

channel is actually called 10 Stunts I Backed Out Of? No. You didn't know that? Guys, go check out his YouTube channel. I'm going to turn this podcast off right now. I just wanted to know one. The one that's well publicized was the toy car up the butt, which I backed out of. Why?

It's a little toy car. When I told my dad in 2002. He didn't say no strongly enough? He said, oh no. Which was different. I could hear the disappointment in his voice. And I just thought, I can't do that to my dad. How big a toy car?

Matchbox. We couldn't say matchbox for... You wouldn't just put a matchbox car up your butt? Yeah. It started out as a flip phone. That's a little crazy. It started as a flip phone, but that wasn't logistically realistic, so they changed it to a matchbox car.

Yeah. And that's where you said no. You took a hot load, but not a hot wheels. I probably would have said no to swallowing a hot load in 2002 as well. You've got to understand this. The bar has consistently gone up and up. Back then in 2002, the bar

was sufficiently low that it was too much to... That's what porn stars often say. But that is what happens, right? It's like you guys do these things and you have to up it every single time so you can't do the same pranks. And now you're just putting yourself in potential danger. Pretty much, yeah. I mean, my new tour

is called the Bucket List Tour and good God did I raise the bar for that. Yeah, we saw the intro. It looks wild. The intro's not even particularly... That was crazy. I mean, it's crazy and it was expensive and I love a good elaborate... Would you take a dick in the butt?

Oh man, I don't want to give up my creative... I don't want to give up my creative... I don't want to give up my creative... I don't want to be serious. I got no clue. Would you take a dick in the butt? Oh, my God. Here's the thing about my... Let's go!

No, no, no. Let him tell us about his art. Go, go, go. Tell us, tell us, tell us. Here's the thing about my creative plan. But tell Alex, because it'll be more fun. This is so wild. It's not original, though.

The thing about my creative plans is that I can be pretty comfortable about leaking them out because nobody's fucking stealing my ideas. There's a whole community stealing that idea, to be honest with you. Right. Well, I mean, now, I want to sort of paint a picture here. Like with the bucket list, right? With the bucket list, I got butt-ass naked and jacked off with another man strapped to my back in an airplane. Actually managed to simultaneously ejaculate as I was falling out of an airplane at 15,000 feet. That seems fun.

He came too. He did not come. That's too much. This is funny. Yeah. I had a medical professional in disguise administer stolen general anesthesia drugs into my arm while I was riding a bicycle. Fucking super illegal, super funny, super awesome. You know? The actual question, were you worried about that because you're sober? That's the craziest part of it to me.

Right. It's a very crazy. That's the craziest? Yeah. This guy's a full-blown addict. He's it to me. Right. It's a very crazy. That's the craziest? Yeah, bro. This guy's a full-blown addict. He's getting anesthesia. Right. I mean, most of the ideas on my bucket list were old ones.

And this idea for the general anesthesia bike ride. Him doing general anesthesia? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is. It's a concern. Anything that he said. Yeah.

He ate shit cuffs. No, no. Of this stunt. Oh, this stunt. Yeah. Well, no, of this stunt. Oh, this stunt. Yeah. Well, no, you're right. It's the most concerning thing for me as a sober guy. But the original idea on the bucket list was to take on trophy hunters to promote tranquilizer darts.

I thought instead of killing animals, these trophy hunters could use tranquilizer darts, not kill them. And so that inspired me to come up with an idea to line up for a foot race with one of my bros. On your mark, get set. They shoot tranquilizer darts into our butt cheeks. That's hilarious. And then we sprint for distance.

That's so funny. That's funny. That's super funny. Thank you. Whoever makes it to the farthest before them. That's so funny. Did you. Whoever makes it the farthest before me. That's so funny. Did you do that? Well, my man Scott Randolph,

who's just off camera right over there, I asked him to find somebody who has a tranquilizer dart gun. And in short order, Scott's good. He tells me, maybe a day or two later, he says, I got a guy in Alabama. And so we get on the phone with the guy in Alabama and he's like,

all gung ho. He's like, yeah, I got it. You know, but I found out that the drug in the darts is ketamine. You know how you hear about ketamine, like horse tranquilizer.

You know, they talk about ketamine's horse tranquilizer. That's what it fucking is. Tranquilizer, darts, or ketamine. And as an addict, I loved ketamine so much. So I'm like, fuck, I can't do it. But I was in this tug of war because my ambition was now directly at odds with my recovery. And I'm like, I was going crazy.

I'm just going to fucking do it anyway. You know? But thank God I didn't. Yeah. And before I lost my mind, it occurred to me that in sobriety, now 14 years of sobriety. Amazing. Since I got clean and sober, I've had untold fucking surgeries, medical procedures that knocked me out.

And I've never relapsed after the general anesthesia. medical procedures that knock me out and I've never relapsed after the general anesthesia. So to answer your question, I was concerned about it, but much less so about general anesthesia than ketamine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's the biggest pussy on Jackass? Like who's the guy that you always got to convince to do shit? He's always complaining and he's always whining. I'm glad that you're not an instigator.

I think that- I love you guys and Jackass thank you guys very much for all the entertainment it's comedy guys, it's shtick YouTube title I describe I like to think of the characters in Jackass kind of like superheroes in that each guy has his own superpower. You know, like for Knoxville, it's absolutely bulls.

That is his superpower. Bulls? Bulls. He's just very comfortable in front of bulls. With the animal bulls. Yeah, bulls. Getting knocked by like in a bull ring, like a bullfighter. So his superpower is just bulls. Yeah, bulls. Getting like knocked by like in a bull ring. Yeah. Like a bullfighter, but. So his superpowers.

It's just bulls. Nothing else he's good at. He created a business. That's my superpower. His superpower is his willingness to stand in front of a bull and let what will be be. The most violent hitch you've ever seen, spinning like a ragdoll. On the last Jackass movie,

he stood in front of a bull, got scooped and sent into a one and a half rotation flip where he landed on his head, got a brain hemorrhage, broken rib, broken wrist, wrist, wrist, and a concussion.

Are you guys worried? Are you guys worried? Wait, he had brain bread in him? Yeah. Also a concussion. He had a brain bleed and a concussion. Yeah. Are you at all worried about, you guys worried about like CT and shit? also a concussion he had a brain bleed yeah and a concussion yeah yeah are you at all worried about

you guys worried about like CT and shit um do you think that's what happened to Bam ooh I always wondered that that it was just concussions

and like I don't know I'm not a doctor but uh Dr. Steve-O actually you used to be thank you um uh but uh Dr. Steve-O you used to be um I don't know I don't know with the BAM situation

and uh but I'm fucking worried about Knoxville's brain I have been for uh you know like he saw the first Jackass movie, when he got knocked out by Butterbean,

the way that he was snoring, when you get knocked out and you're like snoring loudly, like that's not good for your brain. Yeah. And it just, he's just, Knoxville's had way too many of those. Yeah.

And certain people, they develop CT and certain people don't for whatever reason. I asked Tony Hawk. Tony knows all about this. He was on the pod. He told you about the tests you can get. Yeah. And certain people don't for whatever reason. I asked Tony Hawk. Tony knows all about this. He was on the pod. He told you about the test you can get. Yeah. And it's like,

uh, there's a test that you can take for like a predisposition to have Alzheimer's disease and whether or not you have that is plays a big factor in whether you're going to develop. So I asked Tony, I was like, well, what the fuck do you do? If you get the test tells you it's kind of late in the game now?

Like, I don't want to, I don't want to fucking know. You don't want to know. I'm with you. Yeah. I'd rather not know. Yeah. What do you get to, like I said, like what was your plan if you were positive for the test? Yeah.

Yeah. You got to do that before you get into jackass. Yeah. Because what a shitty spot to be in. Oh, yeah. I took the test. I'm fine. guys no i really wondered that when i saw this stuff happen with bam and again like you know i i remember watching the cky and cky 2k videos which were phenomenal because they were skate videos but they were also the prank stuff and it was just right it was the

coolest thing i saw this was back and then we're older but this was back with cassette tape i'm 38 okay this is cassette tapes right so back in our day it wasn't like here's this link it's right to hand your friends a fucking cassette tape and trust me you gotta watch this and he sold like millions of those were viral as cassettes yeah going viral back then it was super hard it was unbelievable there was two things i remember going viral back then it was the old man in the. There was two things I remember going viral back then. It was the old man in the Winnebago's.

Faces of Death was pretty good. Also from the Winnebago's. I heard about that. That was the inspiration for half of your shit. Yeah. The old man in the Winnebago's was good.

Faces of Death was great. And it was CKY. And I remember seeing that group, and that group was fucking hilarious. And then, I don't know, something kind of happened where it went from, like, fun, jovial, silly to a little bit more dark.

On CKY? No, no, later in his career. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. And I was like, oof. Yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough. And Bam was so goddamn genius because in the world of skateboarding, even a diehard skateboarder just couldn't sit there and watch an entire hour of nothing but skateboard without just going crazy. Skateboard videos from the beginning needed some kind of comic relief, something to break up the goddamn monotony of it all.

And I knew I wasn't that great at skateboarding. That was initially what brought me to the video camera. But I was like, you know, I'm not going to be a fucking pro skateboarder. I'm not that good. So I'm just going to dedicate myself to being that comic relief. So I started showing up in skateboard videos just not skating. And I was looking for the opportunity to be in other people's skate videos.

Meanwhile, Bam didn't give up on skateboarding, did all the comic relief, made his own videos, set up his own distribution. He was so fucking creative, so talented, so entrepreneurial, so much younger, better looking, richer. I fucking was so jealous of him. I mean, I'm really in with his goddamn Lamborghinis and everything.

He was sponsored by Nike. I remember that. I was like, wait, a skateboarder from rural Pennsylvania. I remember being sponsored by Adio Shoes. Adio. I remember playing with him in Tony Hawk. I mean, the money that he was making was staggering. Bro, there was a video where, I forget where this, if it was in the old CKY stuff or it was in earlier stuff with you guys, but they rented a car and got the full insurance on the car and then lit the car on fire and destroyed the car. Okay, I'm going to...

I hate to fucking... He tells us about this story all the time. I thought it was the craziest thing I've ever seen. You just weren't looking closely. If I find out you didn't drink cum. I fucking ate cum, dude.

But here's the story. And I'm kind of not mad at him. But there was what happened in that, the inspiration for that bit. And apologies to Bam for revealing this, if it's not widely out there anyway. It's pretty obvious in the clip. They were coming home from a skate session or something. Driving down the road and like,

what the fuck? There's a car over there on fire. They were like, they pulled over, they found a car on fire. They pulled over, they got this footage of the car on fire and they're like, what are we going to do with this fucking footage of the car on fire? Bam was like, what are we going to do with this fucking footage of the car on fire? And Bam was like, he came up with the genius

idea to say, let's go let's go rent a fucking, let's go rent a car and say that we paid for the insurance and then end up with the car blowing up and this is, you know he can't be mad at him for that

but the thing is that like the car they rented was, like, a totally different shape. Get the one that was higher. Right, right, right. Dude. Oh, wait, are there other things? There weren't. Like, CKY was littered with, like, say, for example, when they're kicking the footballs into the cars. example when they're um kicking the footballs into the cars yeah like you can recognize like every fucking person who gets out of the car after the football's been kicked into it as like

one of their family members i respect it more now yeah like a little part of me is like wow you understood production value you understood how to get around these things and how to, I guess, trick the world. That is. I mean, it's. Is Wee Man really a dwarf? What else is going on that's not real? Dude, Jackass was very, like, high on integrity. You know, there are precious few things on Jackass that were manipulated in a deceitful way at all. Give me, give me like what, like what? When, when I did the, the butt chug, right?

There was completely real. The jackass number two, I put a beer in my asshole and they, they pour the beer in and chugging. Like you see that there's no faking that the, as I kick my legs, you see the level of beer in the hose lower and lower. It's all going up my ass. See that? But when they took the plunger, right? To plunge it and all this beer comes out of the plunger,

that's one thing off camera they poured a little beer into the plunger. But where did it go if it was all going up in your ass? Oh, I shit out a fuck ton of beer too. But when he was plunging my beer, like just what spilled out of the plunger that was poured into it off camera. It's a very minor thing, but in the world of jackass and the level of integrity that we always had, that's a big deal. The other thing I know of, BMX tug of war. They had Ryan Dunn sitting on a sofa with a rope tied around him. They do the BMX.

And it played in the movie as a split screen. You know, you see like the bike on the one screen and you see Dunn flying off the sofa on the other. But it was just like the logistics of the stunt, like Ryan wasn't getting pulled off the sofa by the, it wasn't enough to pull him and make him go flying with just the bike. That's why it was split screen. They set up the bike on the one shot, and then on the Ryan Dunn shot split screen, they just had a bunch of guys

pull the... The pain was real. The important part was real. They fucking pulled his ass off and flew him into a bunch of cacti so like you know you can't get too mad at that either does anything happen to your guys balls like you get hit in the balls a lot and and like can you have kids you know uh as part of my my um my bucket list tour yeah and what i was going to tell you before is that with all these crazy stunts and how high level they are, I'm proud that it's clever in that the backdrop, the theme of the show,

is the implications of me carrying out all of these various stunts on my relationship with my fiance. You know, it's a love story. And that's why in that opening sequence, I've got the flowers because the whole story is a love story about my relationship and everything in the show is inspired and the narrative is throughout is my relationship. So in the show, when I come to the point of, so we're getting married, I'm engaged, and you can't take that leap without agreeing on the kid question. Of course. And neither of us want kids.

Oh, really? Right. Why? Because fuck kids. No, why? You have the opportunity to be this very present father and right the wrongs that happen to you. I mean, did I tell you about my mom's side of the family?

Make sure they don't drink it. But is that what you're worried about passing on? I mean, there's a genetic component. There's just the, I'm not very bearish on the world. Right, right, right. Oh, sorry, I'm not bullish. I'm not bearish. I'm bearish on the world. Right, right, right. Sorry, I'm not bullish. I'm not bearish. I'm bearish on the world. Fuck, my dad would be bummed

on that one. But yeah, I just think that the whole disparity of wealth, the rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer, the dwindling opportunity, I don't want it on my conscience that I created a fucking person to struggle with all that. What do you mean dwindling opportunity? And I had an idea on my bucket list called the vasectomy Olympics.

Also that. Right. What is this about? Well, when I was— I just want you to know you've made probably millions of dollars ingesting cum and like getting kicked in the balls. That's why he can't have any kids. He's going to be eating all his cum. That's facts.

Yeah, you're just greedy. No, but I'm saying there's so much opportunity. Like if you can exist with what you're doing in america this doesn't happen outside of america right this is the land of opportunity my my dad when he heard my plan for the vasectomy olympics yeah which was initially inspired by a bad joke i heard in seventh grade which was what is the definition of macho? A man who jogs home from his own vasectomy. And I didn't give a

fuck at the time. I'm 12 years old, but I just wanted to be macho, so I remembered the joke. I grew up with the idea that I was going to get a vasectomy and just do way more than jog, and it'd be super, super macho. But before filming the vasectomy and the stunts which were epic that we did

afterwards yeah i knew that i had a finite amount of time to answer the question that you asked what about your balls can you have kids with all of the trauma to the balls yeah and so i could not pass up the opportunity to go to a fertility clinic oh wow and get a sperm count before my vasectomy to answer the question and the average man has roughly 20 to 30 million sperm per milliliter of jizz and i clocked in at 51 million there you fucking go but they're all dumb. Scott cranked out a load, too. Really? How much you got, bro?

He was very average on the count, but there are more criteria to the sperm count, which I don't draw a lot of attention to. I had a fuck ton of sperm, but they're all swimming sideways. You got to donate your sperm, dude. That would be a fun stunt. They're all swimming sideways. You got to donate your sperm, dude. That would be a fun stunt. Here's the other thing, too, that I absolutely pay every year to keep that load cryogenically frozen.

Just in case. Not because I think I'm going to change my mind, but because I've got a fucking idea for that load. Let's go. Who's that load going in, bro? It's not going in anyone. It's going on a plate with you're like a mr beast of cum content ideas right i mean dude like here's here it this idea was inspired by uh it was depressed and lacy came up with it inspired by an experience we had in mexico where i took a vial of my beloved ketamine, poured it on a glass table, and dried it out with a hair dryer until it was fully dry. And I scraped it up into a line and snorted it. And Preston said, dude, man, what if he

fucking blew a load on the table and dried that and snorted that and i thought wow it's a great idea but one load is probably not going to cut it we're going to need the whole cast to blow a load and so i want to contribute no alex i want to contribute to that like when you hung out with your friends when you did spring break did any one of them say like yo do you guys want to all nut in this table wait till it dries and then we just snort it together. Not waiting until it dries. Hair actually dries. You're too hungry.

Maybe put it in like a dehydration machine. Yeah. You need a good process of, because that way you're not, you know, that way you can get a good time lapse of the cum drying. It's just so funny too, because if you've ever snorted coke, you know, like, it lands in the back of your throat. And, like. You got a little burst from that or what? I mean. A little bit.

I mean, just thinking about it here, my synapses are firing. I love the idea so much. That'll be for my next tour. But, yeah, okay. Hell, yeah. I'm not going to dodge the idea so much. That'll be for my next tour. But yeah, okay. Hell yeah. I'm not going to dodge the question, though. Butt sex. Right.

Right. The bucket list tour is very clever because everything's cohesive and has a narrative. So as painted into a corner, as I felt the bucket list tour left me, like, where am I going to go from here? I have figured out. My wheels have been turning. And for my next tour, which would be called Steve-O's Gone Too Far Tour. Transition. Close.

You wouldn't cut off your dick, though. I'm not going to cut off my dick, but I'm absolutely getting fake tits. Yep. Yep. Right. Now, I don't want to give away too much. But. But.

Hold on. What size and where are you putting them? My last podcast. Where are you putting the tits in the proper position because there's up down on your back i know director told me to get them on my back like a camel but up down like that i know but as i told our jackass director that that will limit me and how much potential there is for bits to use with the tits if they're on my, it's like there's no— Well, you're definitely going to get cummed on your tits, so wouldn't you rather that on your back?

There's no way you're not going to have one of your boys cum on your tits. That's not an idea that I had on the list, but— Get a bigger bucket, my friend. It's good. But now now here's wait can you add to that can you get the Brazilian butt lift as well I would say BBL

you gotta go BBL with them I am not ruling that out as a possibility but unfortunately I have until next year to really make it masterful how big are the tits?

Dude, my last podcast guest was the botched plastic surgeon Dr. Terry Dubrow. He says I can go D. So you can go C then. He says you can go D, you can probably go C. C is smaller than D. Isn't he the shitty surgeon?

He's had sex with one woman. It's okay. He doesn't know anything about this. This Dr. Terry Dubrow podcast was the most fucking fascinating shit ever, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're talking about what's it going to take to break one, and he's like, you can get your implants with extra saline, like way extra saline, so if you do get punched by a professional fighter in the titty, it would rupture.

And you want that? Well, come on. And he, we worked out so much creative with this guy. I was like, if we got a Capri Sun straw, can I pop it in there and fucking actually take a sip?

Have you filled it up with Capri Sun? Yo, exactly. Can we decide what goes in the tank? Yeah, I did speak with him after that. Yeah, we can at the very least dye the saline, if not just fucking use Capri Sun. Oh, that's far. So now I want to— You don't get sepsis?

No. And here, maybe. Here's the thing. What's so deeply important to me is that in taking this from sort of the jackass format to like the live comedy format where like it's actually a comedy show and each bit gets paid off by the video clip. Right. Now, unlike a jackass movie where everything just goes in the bag, like, for my comedy show, I really needed to make sense and to be clever. Yeah. The way the bucket list is motivated by my relationship with my girl, I'm picturing that the Gone Too Far tour is motivated—

Can I ask you a question? No disrespect at all. What size breasts does your girl have? She went from the committee to legacy. You're going to have bigger breasts. This motherfucker is crazy, bro. She's going to be so jealous. That's divorce. She's going to be so jealous. You're a wild boy. You're going to have bigger tits than your mom. This motherfucker is crazy, bro. She's going to be so jealous. That's divorced.

She's going to be so jealous. Yo, you're a wild boy. You're going to do one piercing shit. Yeah. I mean, so. He was trying on her clothes. She's fucking hanging on him. Is that not, though, like a legit joke that, like, it's, like,

faced with a man having fucking legit fake tits. Yeah. The more embarrassing thing would be the nipple ring. Yeah, that's way gayer. That belly button ring got you engaged. Even if you had titties on you, if you had a belly button ring, we're all going, something's off with Steve, bro. But, but, but. How are you guys going to bone?

Have you thought about this? she liked it? she's your wife now right? we're not married yet but you wear the wedding why is a woman supposed to indicate she's taken and not a man it's misogynistic and bullshit this is an engagement ring all I heard was you say I drink a lot of cum

I drink a lot of cum shut up this is gay what was the ring thing I drink a lot of cum. I drink a lot of cum. Shut up. This is gay. Wait, wait, wait. What was the ring thing you just said? I didn't understand. It's an engagement ring. Out of respect to my girl, I wear an engagement ring to indicate that I'm taken.

Oh, but she also has an engagement ring. Correct. So we believe in rings. Yeah. Yeah, but only when you get engaged. You only wore a ring when you got married. Yeah. I see what you're saying.

I would wear an engagement ring. Buy me one. Step up. It's too late now. We don't do it. Step it up, ladies. When we get married, I'll fill in. That's sexist to us.

Yeah, it is. Oh, wait, you're filling in with what? There's a little ridge there, and then the actual wedding band will show that in. That's fire, bro. Thanks, man. I believe in clever shit. I know you do. Right. And so for Gone Too Far, the clever premise of the show, what ties it all together is confronting middle age.

Right? I'm fucking going to be 48 years old in less than two weeks. Yeah. Like there's an arguably limited amount of time for me to be running around doing this jackass shit. Yeah. arguably limited amount of time for me to be running around doing this jackass shit. And so instead of being like, oh man, is it creepy to watch me do this shit? I'm just going to take it on. I'm going to share my experience confronting middle age with everybody. And I'm going to make the point that I was personally fucking horrified to look into the mirror

and discover that not only am I developing man boobs, but that I've actually developed distinct dimples underneath them. I actually have under boob. No, that is so hot. I have developed and it's, it's,

it's happening. I don't fucking like it. And I am lashing out at the God who is fucking, I have developed, and it's happening. I don't fucking like it. And I am lashing out at the God who has fucking bestowed man boobs on me. And if fucking God is so insistent that I have man boobs, then fucking A, let's go D. We're going all in. Let's go D. So every bit in the Gone Too Far is inspired by by confronting middle age which brings me to butt sex before we do butt sex is that one butt sex very badly with you your butt sex i think this

is water yeah yeah i got you i got you i think um it'd be really interesting to see oh there is water in there what yeah what you guys do as you get older because it almost adds another layer of innocence. Like, you know how like the, what was it, the Mona Lisa just got a cake thrown on it

and some guy dressed up as an old woman. I didn't click on that one, but. It doesn't matter. The guy dressed up as an old woman, you would never think

anything of an old woman. You guys have done this before where like, I think Knoxville dressed up as an old woman. Right, right, right. Like Grandpa, but real life.

Exactly. And like, you but real life. Exactly. And you get to get away with so much shit. The older you get, as long as you guys are still wild, you're seeing an older dude do the craziest.

Dude, imagine the old guy balls prank or whatever it is in the gym when it's really you old. Sure. I mean, I'm no stranger to touching water these days. You saw the Knoxville website.

That's actually my boss. You got a nice hang, dude. Thanks, man. For real, dude. Now, as we went into Jackass 4, I was legitimately concerned that as an ensemble cast that we're kind of past the point age- age-wise, that it's cute and fun and funny, that maybe we ventured into the it's kind of creepy and not funny, you know, for us to be doing all this shit. I was concerned that we're too old as a collective

to get away with it and have it be great. Knoxville felt distinctly differently and felt very strongly about it. That the older you get, the funnier it is. And I mean, if we're placing bets, Knoxville is winning. But I've had such personal, like, such a tough time watching documentaries about Buster Keaton. That Stan and Ollie movie. Did you see the Stan and Ollie movie?

It was about Laureuster Keaton. That Stan and Ollie movie. Did you see the Stan and Ollie movie? It was about Laurel and Hardy and them in their fucking 60s or 70s financially destitute, just putting their bodies through this fucking shit. It was just so, like the Judy Garland movie. There's endless examples of things that put me in a depression,

like a bad fucked up funk. I just don't want to be that. I don't want to be that. But with the middle age thing, we're going to butt sex now. I'm at an age that's part of middle age. You've got to go to

the colonoscopy guy. You've got to go get your prostate checked. You've got to get your finger up the butt. You've got to get the colonoscopy. You guys have done that, though. That's been on jackass. Understood. But nobody has gone to their colonoscopy doctor and asked how big can I go down there?

What can I fucking fit in there? You know? And every... Full fist colonoscopy.. Call it off. Yeah, just grab it yourself. I mean, now, Dr. Terry DeBrow from Botch, he told us about before he was a plastic surgeon, he worked in like an ER.

They had a drawer. They called it like the glory drawer, something where they kept the items that people had shown up with in their rectum that they couldn't get out. And when they operate to get these items out of people's rectums, they actually make the incision in the front. They have to, I assume. It's a huge thing. The guy that had the light bulb in there,

you pull it out of his ass, it shatters. Oh my god. I've heard about entire squirrels and shit. It's not uncommon. I dare say every fucking hospital has had people show up with shit up their butt that they couldn't get out. And it goes in the drawer, the glory drawer. Squirrel? So I haven't had this conversation yet.

You know, I will document everything meticulously. yet. I will document everything meticulously. But I'm way confident that when I ask the colonoscopy doctor, how big can I go putting shit up my butt, that knowing what I know about the glory drawer, the colonoscopy doctor is going to be like, dude, no bueno, not happening. Don't do it. He's going to probably aggressively talk me out of trying to put large objects up my butt. How big do you think you can go? Well, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I will not entertain any negativity from the colonoscopy doctor. I will immediately go for a second opinion from a gay porn star.

And I think I'm going to get a wildly different prognosis. So I've been thinking about what goes up my butt, what's my highest goal. And? I almost got political. I thought I could maybe take a gun off the streets. Melt it down. Melt it down. Get the whole gun up there. Do you think Americans would give back their guns

if they could first jam it up Steve-O's ass? Do you think that's possible? Could you unite America? I liked the idea of the whole show representing a grand journey to the gun shop where the guy shows up with a huge dick tattooed on his forehead, huge tits,

just fucking talking about and thinking about shooting himself, and then let me buy a gun, you know? Like, if anybody sold that guy a gun, that's a problem, no matter what country you live in. And, you know, I just don't want to go political, so my mind went elsewhere.

Here's what I've arrived at. It's funny that political is your line. Too much division in this country. Right. I don't need to alienate my audience. Distraction therapy, though. I got you. Right.

I got you. So what I've been thinking about is a clear, transparent PVC pipe. Okay? I would be able to make the oh my goodness make the end of it yeah you know like a cone i know to go in to go in now i mean you know you can go any you know any diameter but how deep you think you got i think i think that i'd be pretty good. And if I can just get a— I think you're shallow, dude. If I can get the PVC pipe firmly, deeply in, and just sticking out a little bit so that it's not gay.

Right? I'm not gay, dude. And nothing's touching you. Yeah, if you swallow the PVC pipe, like if it goes in there and it just envelops it, that might be a little bit gay, but as long as it's sticking out a little bit. Do you have to go so big that you know it won't feel good?

Otherwise, I can feel good. We don't know. If you go the right size, you're just a guy with tits who likes getting stuff in his mouth. Full discovery. But isn't it clever to really have every bit motivated? Yeah. That's my deal.

I want to raise the bar for crazy, and I want to actually create a narrative create a narrative. I think that's smart. I think it's like what you said Bam noticed with the skate videos was it's hard to just watch a guy do the same grind or the same trick over and over again. Let's break it up. What you're seeing about the prank videos is, hey, it's hard to watch just prank, prank, prank, prank, prank. Why don't you create a narrative so we can follow this whole

journey? Give me a reason to tune in for two hours. So that we can be invested in it, right. Yeah, 100%. Elevated. Yeah, so I'm super stoked about that. I mean, the PBC thing is berserk. I feel like you're doing this just to prove a point to your wife. You're like, I can take a PBC point.

You just want to argue, bro? Like, what? I saw your tongue. Why is that weird, baby? Why are you whining? It's fine. Is this the ultimate prank? It's against your rules.

That's the real video that you've been filming the whole time. I think he's just taking away the arguments. I don't want to hear it. Because the way that I picture... I'm sorry, PVC pipe, can you add something at the bottom that creates a seat and then just have a meal at a diner?

A stool. Exactly. And then go to a bar and have a drink, but there's a hole in your jeans. Like the fake levitating guy. That's awesome. So this is what pitch meetings are like in Jacket. Way more fun. Pitch meetings are like in jackets.

Way more fun. The idea that middle age with the prostate, the colonoscopy, I picture it being the colonoscopy doctor and then the gay porn star. I imagined that I might develop a relationship with the gay porn star that was close enough that I would feel good about having the gay porn star actually blow a load into the PVC pipe. But that was too much for my lady she said you can't have you can't have someone blow a load in your ass i said you're right you're right babe like uh uh hopefully um i can get chris pontius to just usher his beautiful flaccid

wiener into the pvc that's what i'm asking yeah i have PBC. If the dick goes into the PBC it's not really touching but there is a dick inside. You said that was your first question was precisely would you take a dick in the ass? That's my answer. With some candy.

Yeah. Safe sex. When is this coming out? I'm not even going to start putting it together until next year i'm running i'm not the pvc but i mean i'm rocking the bucket list tour for the rest of this i want to help out the prank what dude thanks man i love it i want to help out the prank a hundred percent um and it has to deal with cum. And heights. He loves heights. I don't want to do any of the pranks. I just want to be there to

cheer you on and laugh about it. I want to get mileage out of the tits. That's why there's ways to obscure a view of my shoulders up so that someone walks into whatever the case may be

like i was thinking maybe like a massage table and i've got like a towel over my face and i'm just laying there with the tits out and then the massage person comes in to give me a massage and they're like how do they react you know yeah there's uh We bought a smart car just for no purpose but to crash it into a brick wall to make sure the airbags work, which is known as an airbag test. But in my case, it's going to be a fun bag test. You know, it's clever. I like how you think about these stunts. Is stunt the right word for them? Stunt's absolutely the right word.

Okay, because I don't want to misuse it because you know in comedy people are like, how are your skits doing? Yeah, right, right, right. People don't know the exact thing. Sure, sure. So, okay, I like how you think about the stunts kind of like how we think about jokes. Yeah, bits. Like it can't just be punch me in the face and we'll videotape it. It's like what is clever about –

I want you to punch me in the face. Right. What is the best way't just be punch me in the face and we'll videotape it. It's like, what is clever about— I want you to punch me in the face. Right. What is the best way for you to punch me in the face? How do we set it up? Yes. What's the setup? Yes, yes, yes, yes.

What's the beginning and middle? What's the motivation? But do you do that because it's more challenging, or do you do that because you're like, I need to elevate this art form? Both. The challenge is to elevate the art form. Both. The challenge is to elevate the art form. Yeah. And that's where it's at. And I genuinely care about earning my place in the comedy circuit, if you will.

I've worked really hard for a long time. I did the comedy club grind for 11 years. Before the show, we were talking about a three-year comic, a five-year comic. At this point, in legit stand-up comedy, I'm now a 12-year comic. That's what you got to do. You got to put in the hours on

stage. To go out there and say, hey, I'm going to mix comedy and stunts, it can't be a hodgepodge, man. What do you think about like YouTube being this destination for stunts and these, I mean, you look at like the Nelk Boys, you look at all these groups of people who probably grew up watching you guys and then have gone on to have tons of success doing it. Are you looking at this going, wow, we inspired a generation? Or are you looking at like,

they're jacking our shit? Is it love? Is it admiration? Is it? Neither. And what a fascinating dynamic, man. I had like the run with Jackass up until the third movie, which came out in 2010. And I was I was newly sober in 2010.

I was starting with the comedy in 2010. And the comedy was in its infancy. I had no idea if it was going to work, but I was just giving it hell and trying my best. And I was very unsure about that. Come 2013, the one gig I had on TV, I got fired from. And Knoxville was making the Bad Grandpa movie, you know, under the Jackass name. Jackass Presents.

And it was like like wait a second dude they're making a jackass movie without us you know like we got timberlaked now i'm the jackson four i'm fucking tito yeah you know like dude and i was i had the darkest fucked up year like uh i was you know i was really in a you know the fucking funk and um at one point in that year uh some guy a manager called me into a meeting to talk about managing me and this guy 2013 and we're talking a decade ago and he says dude it's all about the digital space you You got to have a YouTube channel. You got to have a podcast. You got to be cranking on social media. That's where it's at. And I was like, listen to this. And I thought, okay, I'm hearing what he's saying, but it sounds like he's describing me doing a bunch of work to create all this great content by myself and he's not describing he does

shit and the proposal is that he gets 10 of everything that i do and on top of that i felt like dude like i've been in like number one box office movies like i'm like you know like it felt like such a depressing demotion to be like now now I'm uploading YouTube videos, you know? And the fact was that I was just in such a fucking dark, depressed spot that I just, to keep my sanity, I just fucking, and my other buddy was like, dude, I'm killing it on YouTube. Like, fucking, you know, he taught me how to edit. killing it in YouTube. Like fucking, you know, he taught me how to edit. And now I no longer needed any fucking permission from any fucking corporate asshole

to allow me to do something. Now I just do whatever the fuck I want. So back then, that was 2013 when I launched my YouTube channel. And that was where like, I didn't even, I did not think that there was any like real money in what I was doing. I thought it was kind of embarrassing, but I was just doing it to keep myself sane.

Yeah. And then over the years since then, we've seen the emergence of the Logan Pauls, the fucking Nelk Boys. I just watched a video. The title of it was something like the influencer bubble is going to pop, you know, and it was like it said that these fucking YouTube people are now making as much or more than bonafide fucking A-list stars. Yeah, more. Way more. And like top athletes.

Way more. Top athletes is close. Yeah, I don't think so. But as far as like bonafide movie stars, like the years of the $20 million movie star are done. Like the, I mean, maybe Tom Cruise for like a Top Gun if he's getting points in the movie, that kind of stuff. But like nobody's paying Will Smith $20 million for a movie anymore. They're just not bringing in the money. Right.

So those numbers are going way down. And the YouTubers, I mean, you look at like Jake, you look at Logan, look at what they're bringing in. Obviously, they have other endeavors, but like they're making big fucking money. YouTube is television now. Back in the day when we grew up and we were watching Jackass and even before that, you just turned on the TV

and whatever came on, you kind of watched. That's YouTube. There's still the pay channels, still the HBOs and the streaming networks, the Netflixes, et cetera. Those things still exist, just like they existed back then. We have very specific content that you'll tune in for. But in terms of just popping on the TV and leaving streaming networks, the Netflix, et cetera, those things still exist just like they existed back then. We have very specific content that you'll tune in for.

But in terms of just popping on the TV and leaving something on, that's YouTube. TV is fucking done. And I don't know, for me, I just want to be where the people are, and I think that that's what you realized very early on too. I mean, dude, I'm so fucking thankful that— Doesn't it feel better to have your destiny in your own hands? Dude, 100%. that, uh, doesn't it feel better to have your destiny in your own hands? A hundred percent.

It's like, I, I took control of my own shit. And, uh, and dude, that, that in 2013,

man, I was in that fucked, fucked up funk. And at the time, the biggest people in the, the prank space on YouTube were Roman Atwood and this guy, Vitaly. And I collaborated with both of them, double upload,

where I did a thing on their channel. They drove all their traffic to my channel. It was like a quadruple fucking collab in every direction. And the day that I launched my YouTube channel, I went from zero subscribers to like way over 100,000. Wow. And within like two or three days, my lawyer was calling up saying that like the big agencies wanted to get you in for a meeting. Of course, of course.

You know, like I had no agent and, you know. If you build it, they will come. Yeah. Simple as that. You build it, they will come. Yeah, I as that. You build it, they will come. Yeah, I, again, have no fucking agent. But you don't need it now. Yeah, I don't.

You do everything you want to do. You create the things you want to create. Right. If people want to buy in, they buy in. If they don't, you just do it for the people that already love you and they want to see what you got to do. It's very simple. It's the best way to create. Right.

You just have to, I don't know if you struggle with this. Some people struggle with this idea, especially if they're older. Like, they validate themselves through, like, the network names and the brand names. So they're like, well, if I'm not in a movie, then I'm not doing something. When they realize that, like, the kids that watch you, they never saw you on TV, bro. They only know YouTube. YouTube is TV to them. Matter of fact, if you're like, yeah, I have this movie jackass out there, like, who gives a fuck?

These kids haven't go to Zoom classes. They don't go out to the movie theater anymore. It's a new generation. As an example, a dear friend of mine has a stepson who just graduated from this, like, ultra-elite high school, which Kanye West's kids go to. He raps about their high school. Maybe they're not in high school, but the same school like, uh,

Sierra Canyon. Exactly. Yeah. Sierra Canyon. LeBron's kids. LeBron's kids. This fucking kid, this kid is on LeBron's instagram page and like he's completely unfazed by that but

when he found out that i was collaborating with steve will do it and the nelk boys the kids fucking heads his head exploded they're like dude you used to be like a fucking run of the mill fucking whatever and now because of your affiliation with the Nelk Boys, you are the coolest fucking kid in my entire house. Because the cool thing about now is that the creators are the validators. Back in the day, it was like you had to be on MTV, you had to be on HBO, and to be on one of these channels. Now, you could be on the channels, but if it's not hot, it means nothing. You could have a show on Netflix, but if nobody's watching it, nobody gives a fuck. Right.

Like, there are people who have NBC sitcoms right now that you and I don't know are even on the air. Yeah. That didn't happen back in the day. But if you do something with the Nelk Boys, everybody's going, oh, shit, he's popping. I will absolutely agree with you on the network television, but I'm going to push back on the Netflix piece because with the Netflix, number one, there's no such thing as a flop

because they don't reveal their numbers. And number two, when you had your Netflix budget, your multi-part special come out, that changed your life, right? Not even close. Not even close? Did less.

Wow. I did it for boomers. I did it because boomers still need to see the validation. That's some wind in my sails, bro. I'm being serious. I did it for people, to be honest, like you. You see me have a Netflix special next to my name, and you're like, oh, he's legit.

How do you explain Bert Kreischer? Bert is a, Bert will tell you this to his face. Bert is a marketing genius one, has an amazing live show too, but three is a viral sensation. It is YouTube that blew him up. He had a Showtime special that he ripped off. If you look at anybody selling tickets right now, none of them are doing it because of Netflix. Wow. You look at the people who really, and I mean this, none of them are doing it because of Netflix,

none of them are doing it because of HBO, none of them are doing it because of HBO, none of them are doing it because of TV. There's a lot of people who have those specials, but they're not doing it. The people who are selling tickets right now are on YouTube. They're releasing specials on YouTube. They have podcasts on YouTube. They're able to build in that space. And the beautiful thing about you having your own YouTube is every time you do something big, it drives people back to your content. There are people that you're going to watch on this thing, and they're going to be like, oh, I didn't even know he had a podcast.

Boom. Spike. We haven't mentioned my podcast. You have a podcast. It's insane. But listen, the beautiful thing about YouTube is you don't need to mention shit. YouTube mentions it. They're watching it and all of a sudden right here it's like, yo, you might like this.

You will say to YouTube, YouTube, I don't like that. And then the next day it goes, I think you're going to like this. I don't like that. And then three days later it keeps recommending it. You're like, fine. And then you watch it. They're going to yes and no. But, dude, give me my van podcast studio idea is pretty solid.

I love it. I love it. I think it's great. You do this podcast out of your van. And it's called Wild Ride. Yeah, dude. I mean, I like clever, dude. You know,

it's in a vehicle, dude. And because I had so much trouble with the idea of jumping on the bandwagon, for years I had been so annoyed. Countless times. Please don't ask me will you do my podcast please don't ask please don't do it oh he asked you know no i don't want to do your fucking stupid podcast like no i don't want to do it and i and i i just so resisted the idea of asking celebrities will you do my podcast? I thought, fuck, okay, if I'm going to do this, at the very least, let me say whenever and wherever is most convenient,

I will bring the studio to you to make it utterly painless. Hop in, hop out, done. In and out, painless. Great idea. And it's just a cool gimmick. It's a great angle on it. It makes it a lot easier to ask that annoying question. Yeah.

Yeah, because everybody has an hour if it's right outside their house. It fits into what I'm already doing. It's easy. You're filming a movie. Oh, you got an hour that you're going to break down? Boom, we'll do it. I'll drive to you. I'm telling you.

I mean, I think Logan and them are doing that. They're moving their set around. Logan, yeah, because those guys moved to Puerto Rico to not pay taxes. Yeah, they're very smart. Love that idea. We moved back to New York so we could pay more taxes. Man, this idea. And spend even more money on a studio that we cannot move.

Right. You have to come here. Right. That being said, we have wives. What did you do during the pandemic? Yeah. Say again? What did you do during the pandemic podcast-wise? What did you do during the pandemic podcast-wise?

Were you on Zoom? No. We had our studio in Brooklyn, so the pandemic was phenomenal for us. And then Miami. Then we moved to Miami for four months. We did a Netflix special. We did these turn-your-phone videos

that were just awesome. I remember the turn-your-phone. Did it start out as a turn your phone yeah and then i mean dude the first time i saw you was on rogan's instagram yeah rogan was just the fucking man he's always being supportive and yeah and fuck dude i was just like this guy i think you were sending me andrew's turn your phone clips. Thanks, bro. Thank you. But yeah, we were doing it. And it was a cool time for us because we were focused on two things. But we also had the studio. We had the facility built in.

Not everybody had that. So yeah, you got to take advantage of those, man. So the New York comedy scene compared to the LA.A. comedy scene, what's the difference? You're a little instigator, aren't you? We've got to go to the L.A. comedy scene website. That would be pretty cool. No, what is the difference now? I mean, yeah.

When you say L.A. comedy scene, do you mean Austin comedy scene? Because that shit is on fire. I mean, like, what we know, the modern LA comedy scene is what we know is, was really like the Joe Rogan comedy scene. Because if you weren't there before Rogan really turned the comedy store into what we all know it to be, it was a depressing fucking place. Like, I remember, like, years ago, over a decade going in there. Rogan and also the old Booker before Rogan, nobody liked. Right, and then a new Booker got in, and then

Adam, I believe his name was. And then they really turned that place around. And then, I mean, Rogan's just superstardom. And then there was other guys who just fucking exploded. And there was just this amazing energy. Like, I remember going over there, and as a New York comic, initially, I'm like, ah, these motherfuckers are soft with their big act-outs and shit. Like, what the fuck is this amazing energy like i remember going over there and as a new york comic initially i'm like these motherfuckers are soft with their big act outs and shit like what the fuck is this and i remember going over there and be like oh my god there's a fucking

energy here and these motherfuckers are hilarious and like it was just some stupid rivalry that we like make up in our fucking heads and uh i don't know to like justify why we are where we are and um the energy was unbelievable in that fucking room. I mean, there was three rooms, multiple shows, everything. And I remember being there going, wow, this is where it is. This is the energy. And now with Rogan there, I was there not too long ago. It's just not the same, bro.

The feeling is not the same. He also took a segment with him. He took a chunk of people. He took the people, too. Tony and Segura. Bert, I think Bert is moving. Is Bert still there? I think Bert. No, Bert's still people too. I think Burt is moving. Is Burt still there? Burt's still in LA.

He's on the road. Their couch. But I'm just saying Not to say their couch, but they've got their two bears cave in Austin. I think that Burt's doing a lot of commuting. I think he's got family in Austin. So I think that Bert's doing a lot of commuting.

I think he's got family in LA. His kids are there. He's all over the place doing comedy. Bert Kreischer, I fucking love that guy. He's the best. I fucking love him so much. He's a great guy. You should explore the New York scene a little bit.

I would love to, man. I don't spend nearly enough time out here. The difference between New York scene. I mean, you should explore the New York scene a little bit. I would love to, man. I don't spend nearly enough time out here. The difference between New York and L.A. is in New York you can— Well, in L.A. it's more like sex scandal, and in New York it's like— What's the scandal for you guys? Is it— I don't know if we have a scandal. No, no, no.

We're not famous enough. That's the difference. There's not enough fame going on in the New York scene for there to be a scandal. Wow. You have to reach a certain level of success to get me to. Yeah, it's just a crime otherwise. No, but I think what the difference is you can make a living doing spots here. Okay.

And in L.A., at least when I would go back to the day, you couldn't make a living doing spots here. Okay. And in LA, at least when I would go back to the day, you couldn't make a living doing spots. So the LA comics were much more industrious. Like it's no question that the podcast scene exploded in LA because these people are like, I need to find a way to feed my family. Right. And I need to make a living and I'm not going to do it getting paid like $7 and 50 cents at the improv. Like I remember once I did a spot at the LA improv, which is a great club. And they gave,. Like, I remember once I did a spot at the LA Improv, which is a great club, and they gave,

they made me sign like a paper. Sure. And they gave me an envelope and there was, change it, there was like two quarters. And I just,

I handed it back and I was like, it's okay, buddy. Give it to the waitress or something. Like, I don't know if it was a matter of principle,

but just like, there were so many times that for years at the Laugh Factory, I was like, yeah. Just keep it. Give it to the waitstaff. You give it to the waitstaff. There is also an energy that is this whole city is bigger than stand-up.

New York, if you go to be a stand-up, you find stand-ups, you hang out with stand-ups. LA, that's impossible. You're surrounded all the time by everyone doing everything. And so I think you just naturally gravitate to that. I think spot pay definitely is a factor, but also the energy.

Even when I wasn't getting spot pay in New York, I would go to LA and I'm just around guys filming everything. Like King Bach is a guy, and I wasn't, I mean, he did stand up after he got famous, I think, but I don't think. I never knew about him doing stand up. He does it now, but I think it's just vine. Like that cracked off there.

We were laughing at that shit. LA is built around Hollywood. It's built around filmmaking. That's what it's for, and that's why you go there. I don't think anybody is going there specifically to do just stand-up. I love stand-up. I want to get great at stand-up, and I'd also like to do these other things that are

within the film industry. And nobody comes to New York to be in film. Nobody comes to New York to be in TV. Nobody comes to New York to be in TV. If you're coming to New York to do stand-up, you're just coming because you love stand-up, and then maybe you're hoping you get a writing job on a show that might shoot here. Right. But if you come to New York to be an actor and a comic, you're an idiot. Go to L.A.

It's built there for you. Bill Bird did what? Went to New York to be an actor and a comic. He was an idiot for that. Okay, and what happened? He came here and he became the best comic. Acting is still getting there. Right.

So it's like, but he is the best. Yeah. Because that motherfucker, you know, earned his chops. Who knows? Maybe he goes to L.A. and he's the best actor. Then we miss out on some of the fucking best bits ever. He's putting together a movie right now that he directed

and starred in. And it was CJ maybe. I honestly think he's a good actor. I think his point is it just took so long for him to get the opportunity even. Breaking Bad was like what, 2012 or whatever the fuck. This is where... Two Netflix whatever the fuck. This is where

two Netflix specials in. Yeah, like this is the thing with Bill is like, Bill is so fucking prolific as a comic he can never be that great as an actor. He's a tough one. Yeah, it's like you'd have to be Daniel Day-Lewis as an actor to compete with where you are as a comic. Right.

Do you know what I'm saying? So it's like, if he sucked at comedy and then we saw him acting we'd be like, oh, that's his a comic. Right. Do you know what I'm saying? Right. So it's like, if he sucked at comedy and then we saw him acting, we'd be like, oh, that's his fucking thing. Right. But we're comparing him to who he is.

Like, even with Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy was so fucking amazing as a comic. Did Eddie Murphy ever have a new special come out? Didn't he have a deal to do a new special? It was supposed to be

that $75 million in-back Eddie deal. Yeah, but that never came out, right? But I mean, he's got to go on the tour. He's got to do the whole thing. That's the part he doesn't seem to want to do. What the fuck are these people? Gabriel Iglesias

filmed a special in Dodger Stadium. Hero. Unbelievable. What do you do about the... I actually asked this question. I got to... Do about what? About the fucking cell phone. Oh, them videotaping? I mean, they could do that yonder shit.

The yonder shit is prohibitively expensive, at least to me. So I just, because I have the video component, I start with a video of me saying, please, you're not invited to steal my shit. You see someone filming, beat the shit out of him. Something like that. I find that very effective.

But, I was told that Adam Sandler did, and this is fucking genius, he has an audio guy record every single show that he does

and then submit the file to YouTube to all the things so that the copyright Matt can pick up. If anybody posts a clip, it's going to match that audio and it's going to get marked up. What a surprise

the Jewish guy found out how to save money. Shocker. Where were you on that one, dog? I mean, that's pretty brilliant. That's fucking genius. Yeah, I really, really like that. Because people don't realize how expensive it is

to have your special leaked. Like if it takes you, let's say, a year or two minimum to develop a really great hour, and someone leaks that before you can tour it? Even worse. Like if it takes you, let's say, a year or two minimum to develop a really great hour and someone leaks that before you can tour it. Even worse. What if they fucking record it and leak it before you've gotten to that point, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Agreed. Like when the bits just aren't there. So now that there's this version of you that isn't as good as you know you are. Right. And now people are like, well, I don't need to go see that. But it's just, I guess people realize how like delicate this is for us. And now people are like, well, I don't need to go see that. But it's just, I guess people don't realize how, like, delicate this is for us.

Like, this is how we make a living. And it takes so long to develop the material that we have to monetize that material. We go on these long tours because we want to perform in front of people, but also because this is how we make a living. And if you give away our living, it's fucked up. And there's some, I think most people might, like, snap a shot and they have a few seconds. But the people who are like, I specifically want to film you and put the whole thing, like what they did to Louis C.K., the person went to a comedy club,

I think in Long Island, and recorded the whole set and uploaded it. It's just like, you asshole, man. Right, and then who was the Broadway guy that has his dick out? Louis C.K. Jesse Williams. That was the thing?

Oh, yeah. But leak that, boy. If I'm built like that, so leak that shit. That's your PBC. Yeah, dude. All right, man. Well, fuck, dude.

What else, bro? Man, I'm just so appreciative you came in my brother how long have you been in town for we're here tomorrow we play home tomorrow night oh that's it

cause I know you're filming something you can't talk about yeah it's a very secretive confidential lucrative thing yeah

it is really cool to see you transition to stand up and take it seriously but still make it your own well thank you man that's a very cool thing to see cause a lot of people will just do it and it's a money grab and i get it do your thing but it's much cooler what you're doing i appreciate that a lot man and

uh i mean to to do the the comedy club circuit and make it back around the loop like i mean that's kind of the anybody Anybody can get one lick. If they come back, that's when they start to see if you actually have a show. Right. Louis said once, he's like, every great show that you do buys you one bad one in the market.

Wow, I like that. And I thought that was a really good way of putting it. It's like, if you go and kill in Vancouver, they'll come back the next time you're in Vancouver. Right. If you suck in Vancouver, they're not coming back. So I think that, yeah, I think that just time exposes people who are using stand-up as like a quick money grab. Yeah. Right.

And if you've been putting the time in and you've been creating something that's unique to you, then you should be good, man. I'm curious about the show. Now I want to check out the show. Well, thanks, dude. I'm tremendously proud of what I've done with... Is your dad proud? He's not. I mean, he's proud of the

business. It's like, you know... Your dad acts like he was the CEO of Coke. I had enough of this guy. Not approving of you. He sells diabetes to black people. He's a piece of shit. Who the fuck is this guy to judge?

He's a drug dealer. You're just getting cummed in. What's the big deal? Not only was I born into the soft drink program, but when he left the soft drink program, he became a corporate executive for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco. This guy. How dare he judge you?

How dare he judge you? He wants to kill your whole mom's side of the family. Right. What type of tobacco specifically? Benzols? Well, R.J. Reynolds Tobacco was in charge of Camel, Joe Camel. Oh, they're fucking monsters. Yeah. This guy hates kids, R.J. Reynolds' tobacco was in charge of Camel, Joe Camel. Oh, they're fucking monsters. Yeah.

This guy hates kids, dude. That's why you don't want to have them. That's why he neglected you. He wanted to keep you alive. Yeah. And during the 80s, cigarettes were found to be not good for you. Yeah. So the tobacco companies started buying up food companies,

and Dad became a corporate executive for RJR Nabisco. So he started fucking selling cookies, dude. This guy, dude. Soda, cigarettes, and fucking cookies, man. He's a drug dealer, man. Yeah, dude. Your dad's a fucking Taliban, bro. But he's also intimately involved in my business.

Oh, really? Yeah, very much so. He helps you on the business side. Yeah, and I can say proudly that my relationship with Dad isn't great because I'm sick. Do you do that? You say Dad in front of other people who have dads as if it's all about dads? Oh, I know. Some people do that, right?

Some people do that. All right. My dad. I don't mind it. I like that. Odd hang up he has. No, it's a weird thing. Daddy said that we could all come over.

Okay, he said daddy. You're making it creepy. I say what? You're making it creepy. No, a new girl like you're dating, and then she'll just call her dad. Okay, apologies. My wife does that sometimes. I'm dad.

I'm dad now. Okay. My dad and I. Yeah. We have a great relationship. Yeah. Not because I'm successful. Rather, I'm successful because we have a great relationship.

That's fire, man. Yeah, dude. Thanks, man. That's fire. First contract I ever had was for real TV in the 90s. Dad, you know, they want exclusive rights to the footage of me on fire, fire breathing while I'm flipping off the roof of the three-story building, and they want to give me 500 bucks, and exclusive means I don't own it anymore.

And I was a little more animated than that. Dad said, calm down. Decide at which point it's a deal breaker. Draw a line in the sand and stick to it. If it sounds like exclusivity is a deal breaker for you. So why don't you go back, say non-exclusive and I want a thousand. Let's go. So I called back and I got non-exclusive and a thousand and dad's been in my corner ever since. Wow. I love that. Is there a moment that you have with him where maybe he didn't say it, but he was, you were like, he's very proud of you.

Well, yes. And like, I went to the University of Miami out of high school, fucked up in every way, kicked out of the dorms, failed out of upped and dropped out became homeless and i was homeless for like fucking three years had the government testing drugs on me for money because i had too much pride to ask dad for help oh god sorry my dad and uh and i ended up finding out about clown college i went to ringling brothers and barnaby billy clown college and dad was not fucking feeling it yeah you know she'd like he was not fucking feeling it and after i graduated from clown college on his own initiative he said hey you know i want to tell you that i feel i've done a disservice to you by not supporting you in this career path that you're

clearly committed to and he's like dad grew up uh his family was all PhDs, theologians, clergymen, fucking zoology, decorated academics in every form. And Dad was the black sheep for going into business. He said, I didn't choose a career path that my dad supported for me. And my dad said to me, you didn't become what i what i would have chosen for you but since you're committed i want you to just be the best you have and he said this fucking i just and he pledged to support me and that put a lot of wind in my sails and that's why beautiful that was 1998 and then uh i think it was like if not the same year, it was like just a matter

of months later, I saw that real TV commercial said if you've got some video footage that you think we might want to see, send it in. I called him up and I said, I don't have footage you might want to see. I have footage you need. And I sent it in and all they wanted was the fire

breathing front flip off the three story building. I'm like, seriously? Out of all the fucking shit I sent you, and all they wanted was the fire-breathing front flip off the three-story building. I'm like, seriously? Out of all the fucking shit I sent you, that's all you want? Yeah. Yeah, so my dad's the shit. And you're the shit. So thank you for having me. Thank you so much for being here.

I'm sorry for all the gay shit. I'm sorry for all the... I'm really stoked for you, man. I mean this. And I came up watching you and I always thought that you're incredibly entertaining and it's cool that you have positioned yourself where you're in control of your destiny. And I think a lot of guys that are in your

situation in entertainment in general, not just because they're doing stunts, but they're doing TV, they're doing film, whatever, they just don't have that type of control. And, you know, when they stop becoming like the hot thing in the industry, they go on tough times and I think you've kind of built something

where you get to decide whether your times are tough or not and I admire that and I think it's great. I appreciate that a lot, man. So we got, if you need anything,

you let us know, man. Yep. I love it, man. Thank you. Thiebaud, go check out his podcast. The legend.