Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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Starting point is 00:00:23 We rolled the dice one last time Landman new series now streaming exclusively on paramount plus The guy who's about to fight you right now is on the purest form of fentanyl like he's gotta know who you are That's why I pulled up on me I had a great morning and then this guy I think cuz he saw my car so he doubled back and just like is he one Outs and in New Zealand, that's like we're doing me one-on on one, let's go. And I started laughing and I was thinking like, bro, I fight for millions. I'm not gonna knock your ass out for free.

Starting point is 00:00:48 And he goes, nah, I fight for free. I fight for the streets, for my pride. And I was thinking, you're stupid. You're stupid. At the end, you see me spit at him and he just looks down like, and then I realized, you're not gonna do shit. If he spat back at me, then it's on.

Starting point is 00:00:59 But again, I'm glad I had a good day. I don't like street fights. I don't like confrontation. But if you bring the problem, then I'ma solve the problem I realized this because it happened to Anderson has happened to Jones has happened to a lot of the greats the longer you defend The belt the less risk you take Yeah, come on that back come on there

Starting point is 00:01:16 I know me and I know where I was during that fight week and all that and again that was his time It was his week with the whole fight just felt like a weird dream I'm gonna be a great dad, but Alex about it before and Yo, I'm saying this I don't know this based on anything, but I think that you might be the most recurring guest that we've had on Flavor. Oh wow. This is your on-board big time? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:52 Wow. We got Sal Bender in the middle of the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We need an orb, we need a trophy. Yeah, we need to give you something very special. Or maybe a blue tube pill or something. Is there a blue tube pill? I mean, there are people possibly saying,

Starting point is 00:02:03 should you take it now? None of them. And then we just see what happens? I'll pop one with you. I'll pop? I mean, there's a deposit. Should you take it now? None of hell no. And then we just see what happens. I'll pop one with you. I'll pop one with you. Let's go have it. Just like, yeah, guys. OK.

Starting point is 00:02:10 Let's go have it. I'm just gonna pop it off, man. You know, about this movie. Oh, yeah. Nah, we won't do that. We won't do that. We'll leave it. Listen, bro, first of all, we missed you.

Starting point is 00:02:21 It's great to see you again. I can see there's a lot of growth as well, even just as we've been here. Shout out to you. We gotta say something else that's very important because Mark, you already spilled the beans, but we can say it. We probably isn't allowed to sign on the podcast to say,

Starting point is 00:02:36 congratulations, Mark. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, guys. Mark got a baby. Mark had a little baby boy. My name's here. Yeah, it's awesome. Do you have a name locked in yet? We have a name. Mark had a little baby boy. My dude's here.

Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah, it's awesome. Do you have a name locked in yet? We have a name. Okay. We have a name locked in. You wanna reveal it now or? No, but it's on now. People are gonna look him up,

Starting point is 00:02:53 you're gonna steal his identity and shit. You know what I mean? Nobody give a fuck. It's out of the box. It's out of the box. Who do you think you are, Andrew? Andrew? I can't tell you.

Starting point is 00:03:03 Okay, so you wanna keep the name private. Let's steal the feature. Steal your identity. Does it even have a birth certificate? Like, where did they get it? That's the thing. No, he was born at home, so we had to forge it. Oh, they water birthed.

Starting point is 00:03:15 Not even water, just air. What? Fire. So you just caught it like a football? Yeah, she pulled it out like whoosh. She was standing? She was like kneeling. She was kneeling. Wow. And I was behind her, and then she pulled out like she was standing she was like kneeling she was kneeling and I was behind her and then she was just like

Starting point is 00:03:37 Just happened randomly or you were prepared and that was how you guys were mentioned. No, she's a midwife that does But I was afraid I I thought it was gonna be a butt fumble situation. Like, I thought I was gonna like slip out, like. Yeah, yeah. Who's on first? Okay, wow, okay, so you're a dad now. Yeah, it was awesome.

Starting point is 00:03:52 During the labor, the horse part. You're calling him daddy now. Yeah, daddy, yeah. Daddy, you got daddy. I stubbed my toe during the labor. Oh, it must've been so hard for you. Oh man. I swear to God, bro.

Starting point is 00:04:03 I swear to God, bro. Like, she's having a contraction, and she's like, yo, I gotta go pee, I gotta go to the bathroom, so I swear to God, bro. She's having a contraction, and she's like, yo, I gotta go pee. I gotta go to the bathroom. So I was like, all right. I'm like guiding her over, and then I hit my toe on the side of the bed, my pinky toe. Like, that's the worst one to hit.

Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah, of course. And so I take her over. You've been hit in the pinky toe? Oh, heaps. Conor pulled out the fight with Michael Chandler because of his skin. Exactly. Now you're the man with the skin. Exactly, as a fighter.... Exactly, exactly. Now you're in that one scene.

Starting point is 00:04:25 Exactly, as a fighter. Relatable. Yeah, yeah. And so we went in the bathroom, and I'm like standing there like Winston, like standing on my toe like, fuck. And then she has a contraction. Oh no.

Starting point is 00:04:35 And then she looked at me and she's like, what's wrong, what's wrong? And I was like, nothing, you're doing great. Yeah. And I had to push it down in that moment. But I told her after, once the baby came out. Once the baby was out, yeah. I was like, yo, I'm gonna fuck my toe up. She understand? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I told her after, once the baby came out. Once the baby was out, and everything went good.

Starting point is 00:04:45 She understand? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got me ice and made food and stuff. You gotta keep them working. Real one, real one, yeah. They get a little bored if they're not, you know, still working every second. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:55 When are you gonna have some babies already? Me, I don't know when, maybe I already have some. That was my first time. I don't know, man. China was wild, bro. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. When you're in China, do you just shoot them up? Nah, it's not even that, it was a different time.

Starting point is 00:05:10 I was younger and less responsible. Yeah. I don't feel like you're a condom guy. I am now. Who laughed? That's great. That was great. I like.

Starting point is 00:05:24 Who laughed? Was that you? Did you the ball laughing or was that Vala? I don't know why Vala laughed. Vala's like, how does he know? We had fun in New Zealand. No, no, no. That's all. No, I'm, yeah, I'm responsible. I'm a responsible adult.

Starting point is 00:05:32 You're responsible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's just- But in China, you could go, I mean- But they'd know. But after birth, it's like, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more

Starting point is 00:05:40 of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you're a little bit more of a, you know, you I'm responsible. I'm a responsible. Yeah But in China you could go I mean After birth in China Do what I mean they'll kill the baby. Oh, yeah true. Yeah, they already have a kid then, you know

Starting point is 00:05:55 You're allowed one and also but they're also gonna know who the daddy is. Yeah all straight away I mean even if he knocks on my door, I was like this girl I did Sonia. Oh no It's in the eyes, you know straight away. I mean, even if he knocks on my door, I was like, Israel, Adesanya? I'm like, oh no. It's in the eyes, you know straight away. But. Yeah. Things for the skin calling. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:13 The eyes he gets from going. Yeah. Yeah. So, nah, but me, nah, I'm waiting. I'm chilling. But now you're disciplined, you're responsible. Yeah, I am. You have a chef.

Starting point is 00:06:23 Yeah, he's actually chilling. I met your chef yesterday. Yeah, he's the man, he's the man. Good people. am. You have a chef. Yeah, he's actually chili. I met your chef yesterday. Yeah, he's the man, he's the man. Good people. He's actually been a chef for like, what, almost 17 years. But have you corrupted him yet? Yeah, oh, he corrupted me.

Starting point is 00:06:34 What do you mean? With good, delicious food that's great for your body? So he's my first friend when I lived in this town called Wonganui. I wanna know what type of corruption you was just talking about. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:44 When I moved, my guy, thank you. You know chefs are crazy. Yeah, no, because I moved it Wanganui. I wanna know what type of corruption you was just talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I moved, my guy, thank you. You know the chefs are crazy. Yeah, no, because I moved to Wanganui as a kid. I was a virgin, good boy, no alcohol, didn't drink, nothing like that, but they hanging out with him and our group of friends. I was, put it this way. Couple of ditty parties?

Starting point is 00:07:00 No, no, no, hell no. No, no, no. What's up with the freak-ups? I was the getaway driver for them doing like mailbox, you know, hitting cars, windows, that kind of stuff. Like what was it, 17, 18? And I was always living vicariously through them as they did some.

Starting point is 00:07:17 New Zealand is really progressive. That's what I was just thinking. You would choose the black guy to drive the car. Exactly. They wouldn't let the black guy near the stairwell because you're getting pulled over immediately. We promised, we didn't rob anything. No, you were just driving black too.

Starting point is 00:07:31 Also, it was like a soccer mom van, so it was, you know, could fit a lot of people, but incognito, you know, like fucking Subaru and anything like that. But no, yeah, he's good peoples. I like having people like that around me because again, I've talked about this now. I got this far with just eating the dirty shit Uber eats and then now I actually eat whole foods, good meals.

Starting point is 00:07:52 Like my last fight, I felt great. Yeah, we saw you look shredded. I was. Oh, lost some muscle. The wake up was easy. So yeah, thanks to him. And now we're going to just pick up where we left off because... You want it again, huh? Yeah. You want it bad.

Starting point is 00:08:03 You had it. I thought it was yours easy. Yeah easy yeah that's the game you made a small that you like made a small mistake you never spoke on the mistake what was the can you say that so the mistake was um just a lapse in focus because I tripped bad footwork and I tripped and then that was when he was kind of throwing at me and people thought like oh you heard him and I got up and I was like, the ground. And then DC was like, he's doing the Max Holloway. But I'll kind of just be like, nah, the ground. But even that moment right there, I shouldn't have.

Starting point is 00:08:33 Just stay focused on the task at hand because you need 30 minutes of focus while you're in there. So you can't even just have a lapse in judgment for a split second because if not, song can jump on you and capitalize. And I've done that to people as well. But this guy ain't got done to me. So wait, what do you mean?

Starting point is 00:08:47 You point at the ground and that's when he lunged to you? Yeah, because again, I was just telling him, like, it wasn't you, it was the ground. I tripped. I tripped. But he's saying, even explaining himself, who gives a fuck? Focus, focus on the fight.

Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah, even broke. You don't need to explain yourself to anyone. You never see me in a fight, complain to the ref unless, like, when Brunson really grabbed my shorts for the second time, and I was like, ref, that's wise. But he never seen me kind of lose focus. I just focus on a task at hand.

Starting point is 00:09:09 But yeah, in that moment I lost focus and that was it for me at the time. Outside of that, anything surprising? Nah, because the strength was something I was, oh, he's so much this, he's so much that. But I felt strong in there, again, shout out Matt. So I felt really strong, I felt fast. If you do the numbers, like my guy Bill Smart

Starting point is 00:09:28 did the numbers and said that was the most active I've ever been in any of my fights in the UFC. Yeah, it felt like the pace was high. Yeah, so I was putting the pace on him. So again, took time off, came back, felt great, that's the main thing, I felt great when I was fighting. So now we're gonna build, we did my testing about four weeks ago now, three weeks ago.

Starting point is 00:09:47 So we've got the numbers and we're like, cool. We are where we were four weeks out from the fight. So it's like, cool, let's build off from that. So I'm gonna build off. Okay, so what do you want? Like, what is your ideal next couple of years? If everything goes the way? I actually have no idea, that's the thing.

Starting point is 00:10:01 And it's nice to know that. And I was even telling Rose this. I've never felt that when people talk about, say, you know, that's the thing. And it's nice to know that. And I was even telling Rogues this. I've never felt that when people talk about, say, I lost the belt, like Matt Hughes was one of the first people I heard, who's my chef's name, by the way, Matt Hughes. Wow. But Matt Hughes, the legend, UFC icon,

Starting point is 00:10:15 was the first one I heard talk about when he lost the belt. He felt this pressure come off, like, oh, I'm not the champ anymore. But I'd never felt that, because I was the champ for so long. And then when I lost it in MSG, it was kind of like, fuck, let's do it again. And then it wasn't until even when I lost it to Strickland, I still felt like, you know, that target on my back and it still is.

Starting point is 00:10:35 But after this fight, I was kind of like, well, man, like, I wasn't attached to the result. I just wanted to show off. I wanted to fight. And I did. So now I'm in a spot where it's like, who do I fight? When do I fight? Because I'm only doing main events, five rounders, and title fights.

Starting point is 00:10:54 That's all I've done for the last how many years. But it's kind of nice to just not have that be the focus now, but now just fight, show off, make money. But we'll see, I'm excited. Where do you get the motivation now? Like you've beaten everybody, you've become the biggest star in the sport, you've made all the money,

Starting point is 00:11:16 you've taken care of, I imagine, your family. You made it, you know. We need more. See, that's the thing. It always gets bigger. It always gets bigger. No matter what. Right? You buy one car, you're like, that other car's nice too.

Starting point is 00:11:30 Once the lifestyle steps up, there's other things you want. But you've made enough money where you're good. Your family's good. Everything is good. And you've achieved, I imagine, all the dreams you had when you were younger within UFC. Yeah. Is there this moment where, and I'm asking because there's like a thing that I kind of relate to in my sphere of work, but it's like, is there's a moment

Starting point is 00:11:53 where you have to decide to make new dreams to get yourself up every day to put in the work to achieve what you achieved? I haven't said, even getting a submission right now would be meaningful to me more than getting a belt for the third time. So that's the thing, it's like, you have to find things you haven't done yet, because you always said

Starting point is 00:12:15 from the beginning, the first time that we had you on, you were like, I don't care about the belt. The belt doesn't define me. Now, I'm sure it's nice to have the fucking belt. Oh, it's nice, yeah. To wear the crown, it's fucking, whatever. I got a couple at home. They just sit there.

Starting point is 00:12:28 They don't go away. But yeah, so that's why when you say right now, I didn't really care about the belt, I believe you. Yeah, because I said it from the jump, and I'm glad you remember that. But now it's just, again, highlights, cool shit. Again, when I was fighting, I realized this, because it happened to Anderson, it's happened to Jones,

Starting point is 00:12:45 it's happened to a lot of the greats. The longer you defend the belt, the... I'm not speaking for those guys. Of course. The longer you defend the belt, the less risk you take. Because you see the way I was fighting, one of the examples I gave was my brats of iris fight, in the round one.

Starting point is 00:13:06 Cool, I hear the clapper, 10 seconds left. So I'm gonna try, I'm in Nari roll. I landed in training quite a lot, but I've never ever tried it in a fight. So I was like, let me try that shit. Did it, just missed, cause my hips weren't high enough. And then I got up and I was like, come on.

Starting point is 00:13:22 But again, shit like that, trying to. When you have the belt longer, you stop doing that. You start being like, let me, I gotta defend the belt. Yeah, it's not just about me. It's about, you know, when I win and I have the belt, there's a lot of people that eat. So, you know, it just slowly, and it's not on purpose. It's something that just happens, like I said, with Sylvia.

Starting point is 00:13:41 I've seen it as a fan and with Jones as well, I've seen it. But then now I'm kind of free of that, I'm just like, and I know I'm good and all that. So I just wanna go back to just taking more risks, being fun, being a highlight dude, like I was. Did it get less fun as you have the belt longer and longer? Certain fights, it was one, Marvin Vittori part two, when I was in there, maybe round three,

Starting point is 00:14:00 and you hear, I don't know if it's on the fight, but I heard Twister, one of my coaches was like, don't get bored Izzy, don't get bored. And I caught myself like, oh yeah, but again, I didn't realize it cause I'm in the fight, but he saw it in my eyes and my demeanor like. It was very dominant performance. Yeah, but he could see it though.

Starting point is 00:14:17 It may be round three or four, he could just see it. I was just like, this is boring for him. That seems like the beginning of starting to like, not lose it, but starting to be like, oh shit, it's coming down the road. He might lose. This one, it's still easy. But that means you're probably not going to train quite as hard for the next fight. And then if you win that one, you can train even less hard for the next fight. And eventually it will catch up to you.

Starting point is 00:14:36 You never got a road rage knockout? Amen. We're talking about highlights. So when I saw you square up, I was like, this, the guy who's about to fight you right now is on the purest form of fentanyl because there's no way, like he's got to know who you are. Fine. That's why I pulled up on me.

Starting point is 00:14:56 So I had a great morning training. Yeah, yeah. What's the story? You had a delicious breakfast. Matt, you just made a delicious breakfast. Yeah, no, no. This is not, not even, Matt was, I think it was in Thailand at the time. Okay. So I had good morning training, vibes was on,

Starting point is 00:15:08 went to K Road to get this pie, like a famous pie on there, and I was just like, vibes was on, just chilling. And then this guy, I think because he saw my car, so he doubled back and just like, look at him, and he's like, yo, Izzy, one outs. And in New Zealand, that's like one outs, it's like you and me, one on one, let's go. What?

Starting point is 00:15:24 What? That's crazy. What? And I started laughing and I was thinking like, the fuck? And people who were taking photos with me and stuff were like, the fuck? And I just kept on walking. And then the bit where it pissed him off,

Starting point is 00:15:35 because he was at the green light, everyone going around him, honking their horns like this fucking guy. And then I went, I just grabbed my car door and I went, and that pissed him off. So he just came in front of my car and I said, bro, I'm not going to fucking whoop you off. Why'd they piss him off? Just because you flexed in the cardo.

Starting point is 00:15:52 Cardo does the scissors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I shoot like a lens, bro. Yeah. If a guy just walks up to you, he's like, yo, let's shoot the fair one. And you're like, bro, my car does this. Yeah. That's what they call suicide doors. You're trying to kill it. You're trying to get you exactly. That's why they call him Suicide Dores. He was trying to kill us. He was trying to fucking end it.

Starting point is 00:16:08 Yes sir. But then he pulled up and then tried to talk all this rast to me. And at one point, I even tried to defuse it because I was like, bro, I don't know you. What's the craziest thing he said? When I said, bro, I fight for millions. I don't fucking fight. I'm not going to knock your ass out for free.

Starting point is 00:16:23 And he goes, no, I fight for free. I fight for the streets, for my pride. And I was thinking, you're fucking stupid. You're stupid. Was he a white guy or was he like... Not a Maori guy. He was brown. Yeah. See, that's the problem I had when I first moved to New Zealand. I couldn't tell the difference between all of them. Wasn't because of racists.

Starting point is 00:16:37 So you went to China. Yeah. Hard mode. I mentioned I got there. You put it on All-Stars. I can't. I can't. Hard mode. So the wildest. I mentioned I got there. You put it on All Star? It's funny. Nah, but then in the end I just, as when I spat at him was when I was kinda like hoping,

Starting point is 00:16:53 try something. Oh, okay, that's- At the end you see me spit at him and he just looks down like, and then I realized you're not gonna do shit, but also, cause of our boy, like you remember the movie when our boy got knocked out? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:04 Street violence, and I just realized if I drop this guy right now and he he don't they're gonna fucking put me through the Ringer these are weapons now. Oh, yeah So for me, I was just like nah just and again We started a charity walk without fear to help with this kind of sentless street violence because a lot of these guys The boy that the boys that killed my boy Because a lot of these guys, the boys that killed my boy, they did home detention for I think a year and a half. And during that year and a half, we all had locked down for six months in that time.

Starting point is 00:17:32 So again, we all did it together. So what's the, and now they're around free. So basically you're like, we also had home detention. Yeah, exactly. So again, we're trying to change the laws with that charity. And this video, I believe will help because it shows the discipline of someone like me. Yeah. Cause do that to Dan Hooker.

Starting point is 00:17:48 Dan is like Dan is a beast and Dan would probably act differently and maybe, maybe not knock him out, but just put him to sleep, hang him out. But still. How does the video end? Cause it's like, it just cuts off. It seems like it was still going on. If you go to the end, you'll see me just spit at him. And then when I slammed my car door down, then I was kind of just like... That's when you were... That's when you got pissed?

Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah. But when I was driving off, he had a shirt off him. He was still flexing. And again, people, only one person, like when I said, can you call the cops? One person helped me. Everyone else just had the camera off at this moment. Oh, wow. So you see me spit at him, then he looks down.

Starting point is 00:18:24 And I go angry, but then when I went- Now what's happening right now? He just didn't do shit. But what are you thinking right now? I was like, I spat at you on your leg. If he spat back at me, then it's on. But again, I'm glad I had a good day, and I don't like street fights,

Starting point is 00:18:39 I don't like confrontation, but if you bring the problem, then I'm gonna solve the problem. Okay, real quick, so in this moment, you're thinking, all right, do I knock this guy out? If I knock him out, does he die? Is there ever a thought, like the average person would go, what if this guy knocks me out? Do you... Okay. So that's not even...

Starting point is 00:19:01 He's like, no, no, no. Most of us would be thinking, damn, I'm about to get knocked out. I just put my pies in the car, took my watch off and I was just like, look, if he breaches the range, because I'm within my rights and he's within range, I was just thinking of a fall. I was just like, man, if he hits his head, because it's downhill, it's more gravity, boom, he's's gonna bleed out. And I probably wouldn't be here right now.

Starting point is 00:19:27 I want that type of confidence to be worried about killing me on the first day. Or not. I was just thinking of following the charity and him dying. What if you just slapped him, got another Dana White contract? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:38 What if you just slapped him in his face, saw what happened, and then you joined a different Dana White league? I told him I was getting paid millions to fight. If you're not getting paid like that to fight. Why haven't any UFC guys or boxing guys entered that? Paige Van Zandt did. She's doing her second fight soon, I think.

Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah, she has. But she's crazy. I'm saying like guys that are no longer professional. Professional women. Yeah, I mean. We need like some big Puerto Rican lesbian. Yeah, yeah mean. I'm not sure. We need like some big Puerto Rican lesbian. Yeah. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:20:08 Yeah, you close. Jesus. Yeah. But these, you should go power slap, too. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. That's actually sore. You have to put your hands as well.

Starting point is 00:20:20 Do you think his motivation was just trying to get paid? Because we don't have those laws in New Zealand. I think in his head, again, he's not caring about pay because he fights for the streets, fights for his pride. But the guy filming kept on going... To you or to him? I don't know. So I don't know. It feels like it was a setup. The Life Tour, last show.

Starting point is 00:20:40 We're wrapping up The Life Tour. Year and a half, we've went on tour, gone to almost every fucking continent and this planet. We are wrapping it up in Hawaii, Honolulu, Bliedsdale, Bladesdale, I don't even know how to pronounce it, Arena. We'll see you guys all there. December 21st. Appreciate y'all so much. Peace. Also guys, dates. December 4th, Long Island sold out, I told you it would.

Starting point is 00:21:06 November 22nd and 23rd, comedy at the Carlson, Rochester, New York. Still got tickets available for that. December 6th and 7th, still got tickets in Albany. See y'all soon. How much are taxes out there in New Zealand? Not as much as New York. Really? Really?

Starting point is 00:21:17 What do they take? I don't think so. If I'm gonna, David King says like 40, for my- It's a marginal tax rate. But my bracket is like, it goes up now. About 33%. Oh wow. Now question, do you have to pay American taxes

Starting point is 00:21:30 when you fight here and? Yeah, 1000%. But then you get like a, a rebate. Yeah, so you go back and be like, yeah, did it. Which helps, but still. Cause America needs that. We need that pound of flesh. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:40 You can't make money out here without us making money. You want to know what's crazy? Give me money. If you're an American citizen. I don't get that. What? Just give without making money. You want to go crazy? Give me money! If you're an American citizen. I don't get that. What?

Starting point is 00:21:47 Just give me the money. What? Italians? No, no. What the fuck are you doing? You don't get it. What is that? I don't get it.

Starting point is 00:21:55 I realize. I couldn't do that. No, no. You're racist, bro. I couldn't do that. No, no. You're an old. I can be like, oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:03 It's a meme right now. It's a meme right now. I just see the, I don't get it. You don't get the get the meme of give me the money? Yeah. Have you seen it? No, it's show me the money. That one. No, give me the money. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Is it? Yes, it's Cuba Gooding.

Starting point is 00:22:10 You know what I'm talking about? Miles, help you. Cuba Gooding Jr.? No, you're talking about something. Okay, okay, we old. We old. I'm going, I'm going. I'm going, I'm going.

Starting point is 00:22:17 I'm getting... You're acting like radio, right? I'm lost, right? I'm lost. I'm lost. Hold on, we all don't get it, so maybe I'm right. Give me the money. Yeah. But then the third person... Give me the money. Yeah on, we all don't get it, so maybe I'm right. Give me the money. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:26 But then the third person. Give me the money. Yeah, and then they don't laugh, and I'm like, what is it? Yeah. But what is this about? Give me the money. You're asking the wrong guy. I just made a joke about it, but still, I've just seen it all

Starting point is 00:22:38 over TikTok, all over the Reels, seen famous people do it on Shade Room and shit. I'm just like, I don't get the funny. So I guess we're over. Mark, can you explain it? Okay, Miles, go. You tell everyone, okay, we're gonna say, give me the money, and then everyone cheers.

Starting point is 00:22:54 And then the last person isn't in on the joke and they do it, each person does it more and more exaggerated. And the fourth person to do it, or the last person to do it, no one cheers and everyone laughs at them. It's kind of funny. Yeah. It's kind of funny. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:05 Let me see it. I mean, maybe I had to be there. It's like bullying. What is this? Is this the one? No. Yeah, I know. Welcome to the club.

Starting point is 00:23:13 Give me the money. Yeah. Did I do it? Yeah, I guess so. All right. Close enough. Yeah, we all, we pass the trends. Is it Gen Z?

Starting point is 00:23:21 Mark's on Bing. Mark's on Bing. Mark's on Bing. Yeah. I guess so. Close enough. Yeah, we all we pass the trends. The Gen Z. Mark's on Bing. I'm on ass Jeeves. And Jeeves doesn't know shit.

Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, what was he? Okay, you have the baby, everything's done. Like, what was the first time? He just nodded his head. He thought you were talking to him. I'm not yet. He had the baby. I'm just, I'm engaged. I'm engaged.

Starting point is 00:23:47 So you had the baby. Okay, like, okay, what was the first time you picked up your phone and looked at Instagram or social media while your kid was still in the room? Oh, it was like, it was probably like that next day. Yeah, yeah. And then some OnlyFans girl popped up and I was like, yo, I can't watch this with my child. Not yet. But it is crazy now.

Starting point is 00:24:07 You gotta get him prepped. You gotta start him, yeah. It's funny, because you'll go through a day where you're like, I don't need any of that shit and then your phone's just sitting over there and the baby's kinda sleeping and you're just like, oh, let me look at this. That's what I felt when I posted.

Starting point is 00:24:22 The engagement was crazy. I was like, I gotta drop merch or something. There's a market with this. But yeah, no, you think you're like, yeah, I'm just gonna be a disciplined, good person forever now. You know what I mean? I'm gonna be a great guy.

Starting point is 00:24:33 And then just slowly wears away. Mark's wife wrote this beautiful thing. She'd be writing journal entries, right? But it was this beautiful thing. But he didn't save it. It was his wife who wrote it. So here's this picture of it. I'm scrolling the picture.

Starting point is 00:24:48 I'm like, oh my god, it's adorable, the pictures. And then it comes to like a note. And I got through like three words, and I was like, I can't read this shit before I go do shows. Like, I cannot experience this level of homosexuality. I would have to call him, get emotional, like, yo, it's beautiful. you finally have feelings. It was in the description, it was in the description.

Starting point is 00:25:09 I said she wrote it. It was just such a long description. I didn't read the description. I clicked Seymour and I was like, okay, Mark's emotional. I'll see more. That was like a quarter of the post, and I was like, bro, we're not doing this. It's the word limit.

Starting point is 00:25:22 It's like a newspaper article. I need a thousand words max, that's it. But this is good, you should share, this is beautiful. Yeah, no, there's emotions online for sure. Also like you going from like being addicted to Zen for like two weeks and having no emotion at all, like being an actual robot, to having every emotion in the world,

Starting point is 00:25:38 that's the way to do it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Strip yourself of all emotion and then just. Do you even know what my girl said when she was having a baby come out of her and all of a sudden she saw me crack the can? Ha ha ha ha ha! And then you're like, it's for you!

Starting point is 00:25:51 Ha ha ha ha! She goes, are you doing a zin right now? And I was like, yeah, I've been out for 24 hours. I'm gonna take out the pace and I don't need to do as many zins, okay? Ha ha ha! Yeah, I don't have these contractions that keep me up. Yeah, exactly. Ugh.

Starting point is 00:26:03 Damn, bro. You sure you don't want kids, dude? Nah, well, eventually. Nah, I don't have these contractions to keep me up. Yeah, exactly. Ugh. Damn, bro. You sure you're doing with kids, dude? Nah, well, eventually. Nah, I can't wait. I know I'm gonna be a great dad, but... But? You can't go looking for this. Because I've been from Alex about it before, and we, you know, he's seen.

Starting point is 00:26:17 Like, there's, yeah. You getting, you getting... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, But who said that? Jesus. That was you? Jesus. That was me. That was me. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. God, please. So he was getting dating advice. We were talking about it before.

Starting point is 00:26:51 And I said like, these are jokes. Yeah, jokes. All the time. All right. Anyway, just for me, I'm sure you've been there as well. You guys have been there. You're like, you have to not look, because then you attract the wrong thing.

Starting point is 00:27:08 Just chill and the right thing will come to you. So, me, I just focus on myself, being the best version of myself. And then eventually you just attract. I was the best version of myself. I tried to. Yeah. And it worked.

Starting point is 00:27:18 And it worked. Yeah, you can go get baptized. You can't just suppose to yourself for too long, because Dove's been doing that, and he's nowhere even close to getting a girl. He wants to be married so bad. Oh, we talked about it last night. I know, he talks about it every single time.

Starting point is 00:27:29 He just, oh, introduce me to a Jewish girl. Give me the money, give me the money, give me the money. And then it never fucking happens, okay? Tell them what you said to me though. About? That you dated a Jewish girl? Oh, I didn't, no, no, no, no, no, no. I About? That you dated a Jewish girl? No, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't say I dated a Jewish girl.

Starting point is 00:27:47 I said I didn't. His name's Israel. Why can't you date a Jewish girl? I said I had a Jewish friend that I can hang out with. But then he said, no, you're not allowed to do that. I'm not allowed to do that. But my name's Israel, so it's fine. That's what I said, so it's fine.

Starting point is 00:28:02 And also I got approval now. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you're just knocking down some nice Jewish product, is he on? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is here in New York. Ooh! Damn, you're in a take on the job.

Starting point is 00:28:14 A way game, a way game. My own friend, take him away. Show him you're in a take on the job. Phil Dove shoes. Yeah, if she's fucking Izzy, she doesn't watch. She does, she does. I'm starting to dance. I'm starting to dance. I'm starting to dance. Oh my God. It's better than that, it's the factzy, she doesn't watch it. She does, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:28:25 Oh my God. It's better than that. It's the fact that, you know, Dub even knows he's a low-key pimp. He's out here. He's going, I don't know. He's like, what do you need? He's like, what do you need? Let me know.

Starting point is 00:28:36 What's your type? What's your type? I'm like, I'll send you pictures. Oh, he's pimping. He's pimping. He's a pimp. He is a pimp. He is a pimp.

Starting point is 00:28:44 He is a pimp. He is a pimp. He is a pimp. He is a pimp. He is a pimp. You do that. He was more like a match. I was saying, I'm a matchmaker. Oh, I see, I see. You are a matchmaker. I heard that wrong. I thought you were trying to like, hey. Yeah, why do you think you can just like throw women's bodies around you?

Starting point is 00:28:57 That's disgusting. They have feelings, you know, they want to be spoken to and cared about. Yeah. Just saying. Yeah, but no, Dove is like masterful with Brazilian girls with like a 72 life. Brazilian. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I respect you, man. God, how are you? Any Brazilian that has that accent because they're actually retarded? Yeah. Fucking. That's how it's done.

Starting point is 00:29:18 Absolutely. That's a competition. Exactly. Oh, wow. That is fucking competition. Don't let them tear us apart. They're not Brazilian, bro. They're not. They might actually...

Starting point is 00:29:32 He says that. They're these girls. They always come out like that. Oh, you do? And he's like, no, they're from Rio. They're from Rio. Yeah, they're from Rio. Oh, dub, dude. Well, at least you're not racist like Miles. Yeah, they're from Wee Ree. Oh, Duff, dude. Well, at least you're not racist like Miles.

Starting point is 00:29:50 I'm not even in the... Nah, I'm just joking, but not at all. Miles went home, he had no electricity, he goes, I don't know how people live like this. Who are you talking about, dude? Wait, what happened? What was this this I flew home to go see my parents and then I came in Florida and then I like fucking South Africa or something crazy I'd be so sick was international how cool why because they impress black people

Starting point is 00:30:22 I did not say this one. It's actually a really funny character. Like a not racist person, but then just accidentally goes racist every single time. Yeah, you would like that. Yeah, sorry. Dude, way to bring up fucking South Africa, man. Come on, dude. That's my peoples, man. Yeah, that's your peoples. Are you and him cool?

Starting point is 00:30:40 Yeah, we're cool. After the fight, we had a nice discussion. It was cool, yeah. Was that a private thing or did you share that? You kids are private. It was cool. Just like a moment. And at the end, he just said, if you're ever in South Africa, you know, tap in. I was like, yeah, sure. And I said, when we see again, I'll try and kill you.

Starting point is 00:30:54 And he goes, I'll try and kill you too. And we just hugged. And I did this shit. And this is why I'm not beating those allegations because I went, hey. Yes, yes. Well, he laughed and then just like, we just hugged and that was it. I thought it was a good moment.

Starting point is 00:31:06 It seems like the textbook like troll where he will talk all kinds of shit before the fight and then after the fight the most humble. Yeah, that's how most fighters are. There's only some who take it to that place and then like keep it like that after the fight. But nah, we're all on the same journey. And again, he's achieved his dream now. Yeah. No matter what, I even was the reason when I saw was Marab in Georgia when they're hailing him.

Starting point is 00:31:30 Oh, man, that was crazy. So whenever I see that, no matter what, it makes me feel aware. Because I'm like, yo, I know that feeling. Yeah. I've done that, too. Yeah. So it's it's yeah. You can. If I hate on that, what does that say about me? 100 percent. Yeah. So I always respect. Sorry, do you find yourself? I know before the fight, you're saying like, this is real.

Starting point is 00:31:49 Do you find yourself having to get to that place and like build up to that place? Or is it doesn't get harder as you get more successful to find that extra gear? Kind of what we talked about earlier, but to find that, you know what? I need to hate this guy because then I'm going to lock in like I used to lock in. No, it can't be. That was real. But it doesn't get harder unless say, like Jeff had my friend had this stat saying like whenever you fight someone, you don't really have any static.

Starting point is 00:32:15 You fight different even if you beat them. But if I have beef with someone, I now let them normally. So yeah, as I get older, now I'm thinking about it. I'm like, I might have to tap into something else just to get that. Or not fight from that place. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:32:33 It seems like there's a ceiling on that kind of like. There's only so much. But not everybody can fight from a different place. Yeah. Like you fight from one place your entire life. That is your motivation. And then you get to a time in your life where you feel really achieved,

Starting point is 00:32:48 like that giant hole that you have, that you're trying to fill. Oh, still there. Yeah, but- But it's less big. Is he knowing you for the last however long we've known each other, five years or something like that? Longer even. Your level of confidence in yourself, I think people always assumed

Starting point is 00:33:03 you were the most confident person. And even now seeing the way that you've handled that like this loss, like to me that's the demonstration of confidence. That's real confidence. Because if you lose and then you're completely wiped out, that means that your confidence and identity is wrapped in being the victor. And we will not always be the victor in life. So whatever that lady in the Winnebago is telling you,

Starting point is 00:33:26 it's working. Yeah, so again, we talked about it as well. Talked about, and I used the avatar Zuko, the firebender when he became friends with Aang, and then he had to find a new way to firebend because he didn't have that anger anymore. They met the original firebenders, the dragons, and they relearned firebending.

Starting point is 00:33:43 So for me, that's one of the main reasons I haven't even been to the jungles yet, because I just know that it's not my whole fuel, but I like having that, you know, I'm gonna fucking show you like that. You fucking kidding me? I like the chip. The chip is a great motivation.

Starting point is 00:34:00 He always brings up Bernard Hopkins. Yeah. On who? Bernard Hopkins? He always brings up Bernard Hopkins. Yeah, Bernard was a perfect example of that. Like when he was the heel, he was unstoppable. And then sometimes a heel becomes a face. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:11 And I think that he was less effective as a face. OK. Like when we were all rooting for him, I think it was he just didn't know what to do with it. When he was taking the Puerto Rican flag in Puerto Rico and ripping and stepping on it, he was unstoppable. I mean, all all Trinidad. Like it was, I just, it's a, yeah, it's a peculiar thing that only you guys

Starting point is 00:34:30 really understand. I mean, we're all understanding our own ways, but where we're fighting because of what we have to do. Even, I won't say the name, but someone in the game who has done what I've done, even achieve greater heights said, yeah, don't do it till after fighting. Don't what's that? Go to the jungles or like tap into those plant medicines till after fighting. Because it's gonna...

Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah, he felt like it changed him a little way. Even like what Deontay Waldo was talking about, he went to Peru, I think. The ayahuasca. Yeah. And then allegedly people have said now he hasn't fought... Even he said it after his post-fight. Recently he said, yeah I found inner peace or something like that, rah rah rah rah rah. And then people said it's taking away that.

Starting point is 00:35:11 Because bro, he was the guy knocking out everybody, left right in the center, the highest KO ratio in boxing. But again, I think it's just finding a different place to fight for him, even if you've done that. Because people have done it and been successful. But these levels. This is odd. Even if Noad Hartley did it. Because he ended up finding, to fight for him even if you've done that because people have done it and be successful but these levels this is

Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah, like he ended up finding being he became champion like 50. Well, I think what he did is He became the underdog again. Oh, we did when he was fighting as an old man Yeah, right. So like while he might have been the face it was still like nobody believes in me Nobody believes I can do it because I'm so old then I'm gonna prove you wrong I hate it being the favorite at some point because some people I'm like, why you still have me as the favorite? Even in the second Alex Pereira fight, I was like, I'm the favorite still?

Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah. I'm like, bro, I didn't like it. So I do like, it's not the whole fuel. Yeah. Because again, I do tap in with like love, the people that really show me love, the people that are around me, the messages I get. Some of the messages I get, man, I'm just like,

Starting point is 00:36:07 bro, you don't even know me, but you know me. And it fills me with joy and it fills me with pride. And those are the people I fight for when I tap into that. But also the ones that don't believe in me and say all this shit, I'm like, I'ma fucking show you. Because I like that. But I don't know how long that's gonna last for.

Starting point is 00:36:24 So again, finding new spots to fight for, man. Yeah, I like that. But I don't know how long that's gonna last for. So again, finding new spots to fight for them and yeah, we'll see. Even train for them, I'm gonna try it out. Yeah. Yeah. We're transferring that to something else. I mean, it's, you know, it's on some level, probably an addiction, you see some people like, they quit drinking, they become like workout a whole.

Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah, just find something else. Yeah. But you can't just go, well, a lot of people just can't just go cold turkey in life. Like you need to fill that, you know, sitting around. That's me after fighting, I was saying this to Joe as well, after fighting, and that's why I say now,

Starting point is 00:36:53 who knows what's gonna happen after fighting, but I say, I would need something to do every few months that'll make me feel like I'm about to die. So one of the things is like, say I'll train for three months or two months and then cool, let's go running with the bulls. but I'll train for two months on how to run with the bulls doors Maybe some sheep first. We got heaps of sheep in New Zealand Like fucking run with the sheep And then eventually because that would just get me up that would make me feel like fuck

Starting point is 00:37:19 Whoa, Joe said dumb ways to die. I agree, but what a rush Joe said, don't waste a day, I agree, but what a rush. Shark diving? I would do that. I would do shark diving. I never thought I would, because water, but you know. What do you mean, because water? What about the water? I mean, I surf once, twice, three times maybe,

Starting point is 00:37:40 but I just, me and water don't mix. I'm a buoyant. I can say, if you put me in the middle of the ocean right now, I probably have like 20 minutes or 30 minutes before I'm done, because I can try and tread water, but I'm so dense. I'm skinny, don't float. I'm so dense, so yeah. But shark diving, scuba tank, inner cage, reinforced.

Starting point is 00:38:01 I'll try it just for fun. Like with a great white, yeah, that'd be. Skydive, we did skydive. Done it twice. Oh really? Once in Abu Dhabi, the first one, fucking amazing. Life-changing experience. That was last year and the last year.

Starting point is 00:38:12 And then I did a random one this year just for fun. And the second time wasn't as thrilling, but it was just cool to see. Yeah, because you're not focused on surviving. You're focused on enjoying it. The first one I was just like, I wasn't even scared. So shit like that skydive still have the McLaren I don't drive fast though, but I've taken to the track a couple of times Yeah, so you just need to feel like you're gonna die at the moment. So again, who knows when I have a kid I might be like I need to live. Yeah

Starting point is 00:38:39 So again out that might it's just freedom of thought I'm saying that now cuz that's how I feel I feel like I'll need something that's going to make me feel like I'm about to... Because you know, I like that sauce. He's like a white boy. Yeah. He's like a gentleman. He's like a gentleman. He's a kiwi, bro.

Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah. Kiwi's a different breed. If you grew up out there, trust me, you'd be different too. Yeah. But that's a fighter thing. Yeah. Like fighters cannot let go, man, because what could even come close to it?

Starting point is 00:39:07 What could come close to it? That's why I say when I'm done, I'm done. And I know that feeling. I talked to it even with Jason Miller about it as well, because we had a little thing in LA, but that feeling when you're backstage, you've done the last fucking warmup or whatever, and then it's going on in five minutes, five minutes,

Starting point is 00:39:26 and then, you know, two minutes, and then it counting down. Okay, it's rope, time to go. Cool, you walk out, stand here, wait on your mark, and then it's like, we're going on in 60 seconds, and then waiting there, and then everyone's behind you, your coaches, and you turn around,

Starting point is 00:39:40 you might give like a little fist bump, something, and then you get out there, you get through the tunnel, you get the fucking wave, you see everything. I wish I could actually describe this to people. Maybe I'll do a VR experience with it one time, and just say, oh, this is an idea for the UFC. Do it.

Starting point is 00:39:55 Honestly, it's fucking crazy, because you walk out, you see everything, everything. People are yelling, you can see all the people in the rafters. Intense focus, you could probably highlight little things, because your mind is. Yeah, on my Ants & Silver fight, I saw one of my people in the rafters. Intense focus, you can probably highlight little things because your mind is... Yeah, on my Ants and Silver fight, I saw one of my friends in the stand

Starting point is 00:40:08 and I winked at him and he goes... Alright. Alright. And again, that's just the thing, you can just see everything, you're so focused for it. Yeah, that's nothing like it, nothing like it. So what is life like when that's not happening? I have to let go, and that's why I've seen a lot of guys,

Starting point is 00:40:22 like what was that movie, The Wrestler? No, no, I mean now, like... Oh,'m fine in between fights like is are you craving it? Are you thinking about like yeah, or can you adjust to that kind of normal level? I've learned how to because even um, you know shots of all Kenoski He talked about it as well when you know, he took the fight with Islam. He says like it's hard like Yeah, that's why they don't give me free time and a lot of money. So for me. So many fighters have said that.

Starting point is 00:40:50 They're like, Tommy Morrison, remember that boxer? They're like, you gotta keep him in the gym. Yeah, keep him busy. And he ended up getting AIDS. Yeah. I'm not like, which gym was he inside? Ah. No, it's J.I.M.

Starting point is 00:41:04 J.I.M. Yeah. No, but like, it is. Keep him in the gym. I'm not a J.I. But like But it is true like There must be it just must be an experience Yeah, like don't be wrong like being on stage and I felt certain things that are unbelievable remarkable Yeah, I don't even think it scratches the surface of What it's like to be in that arena knowing you could die

Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, danger I was gonna say you felt it all of you I don't even think it scratches the surface of what it's like to be in that arena knowing you could die. It's a danger, I was gonna say, you felt it, all of you have felt it. It's the same thing, it's relative, but the aspect of danger, danger is just that thing that's the sauce and that makes it like, fuck, because you're like, I'm about to go against this guy. And you're not thinking this, but you just know,

Starting point is 00:41:43 this is a possibility that I could get in this. I could get sparked, but also I could do that to this guy. And that's the gamble. I'm a gambling man, but I like to calculate my risks. Yeah, I like to stake. Stake boys in the building right now. That's all. All of us.

Starting point is 00:42:02 We're outside, we're outside. So while we're here and we're having, this is like a supercharged steak segment because we got Izzy in the motherfucking building. And you know that John Jones and Aspen are about to go at it. No, no, Stipe. Oh my God, Stipe. I mean, that's the fight that people wanna see.

Starting point is 00:42:17 I said the fight we all want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, what are we thinking about the Stipe fight? I think Stipe is a legend in the game, one of if not the greatest heavyweight ever. But John Jones is now a heavyweight, the heavyweight champion and one of if not the greatest fighter ever. But I just want to see what Stipe looks like for maybe in the coming weeks, so the fights next month?

Starting point is 00:42:41 Yeah. Yeah, I want to see. But John Jones, I think the, what do you call it, the Cyril Gans fight, I was like, oh, that's next month? Yeah. Yeah, I want to see but John Jones. I think the What you call it? I'm surreal Gansford. Oh, that's gonna be hard Yeah easy, so I think he might even make this one easier. Yeah, I just feel like John is just a guy you can't You can't doubt cuz that one I thought like oh Sarah guys new level heavyweight. Yeah, similar size footwork Can't grapple. No, I was okay. yeah, John's that guy. He's that guy. So him and his bros were sitting next to us at the Sphere.

Starting point is 00:43:09 Oh, yeah. And I'm glad that you guys patched things up. Yeah. So there's mutual respect. When that happened, that was God, bro. Airport or something? No, no, at the bar. And then his manager just goes, you know, Izzy's behind you, right?

Starting point is 00:43:19 And he turns around and goes, yo. And I'm like, yo. And we just dapped up. Oh, that's great. And that was just like a moment like for me as a fan, because I've always been a fan. Yeah. And when we had B-Fold, it's like, well, fuck this guy.

Starting point is 00:43:31 But then we still always respected each other. Sure. So that was a cool moment for me. Yeah. Because you know, you're my boy. So I'm glad that you guys are cool. Yeah, I agree. He's cool as shit.

Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah. No, he's cool. Nah, he's cool. We hung out. He's like, oh, like, yeah. Like, there's like, obviously you guys need to be like professional, but like when there's no cameras on, like the jokes are flying, like both play football. So they like, yeah. I know, trust me, we were at the bar for about 40 minutes

Starting point is 00:43:57 and we talked about everything. Chopping it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I trust we eating. So it's hard to bet against John in that one. I don't, yeah. I don't see. Also he's great. He's like I said, the greatest fighter we've ever seen. Yeah, so yeah, I think that's gonna be... What else? What else coming up is interesting?

Starting point is 00:44:14 I'm trying to think like... I mean, do you think he fights Aspen Hall or do you think he does this and retires? Who knows? He says he might. He keeps saying he's gonna retire. I would love to see him in Aspen Hall. But look, that could be a fucking play. It's chest not check. Yeah, I hope so. That is true. I'm not fighting again. And then when UFC goes Hey, we really want you to that number might go up. Yeah, so he could be working game for sure Yeah, I'm a gasping all John John if that does happen. Yeah That's they got because Aspen. Oh, they're gonna fight I think

Starting point is 00:44:42 Fuck it's hard. Yeah, John, bro Aspinall's good. They gotta fight, I think, fuck. It's hard to go against John, bro. I mean, respect Aspinall. He finds a way, he finds a way. But Aspinall, so far, the way he dispatched off Sergant. The Russian guy. Oh my God, and he's fast.

Starting point is 00:44:55 I met him. That's the thing, he's fast. Sat next to him at 300, he and his dad, cool dudes. Lovely guys as well. But he's the same height as me, if not an inch taller, but thick. And I was like, fuck, you're a lot thicker than I would expect. And the speed, that's the thing that I'm like, okay, that's the danger. But again, grappling, he's a black belt.

Starting point is 00:45:14 But John is fucking... It's different. Yeah. But I don't know, man, they got to fight. But if they don't ever fight, we'll never know. Because we had that with John and Silver, we had that with Silver and GSP. So all these fights, we'll never know because we had that with John and silver we had that with silver and GSP So there's all these fights. We will never see yeah, you know, so we just have to have them in the ether forever and ever And we'll talk about it here

Starting point is 00:45:32 But if you do you're gonna you bet on the you're gonna bet with steak. Yeah, shout out steak, bro They'll be taking care of you. Fuck you. Shout out steak. Go go to steak. Go get your money up Do we have a sign up code or anything like that? Go go to steak go get your money up. Do we have a sign up code or anything? That's a male flagrant flagrant sign up code to get your sign up bonus go check check out steak I'm sure is he got one as well. You could probably use either but use ours But you actually word me something you said before, because you said, like, some of the pressure is a bit lifted off of you because you're not defending the belt. So you're maybe, you're looking forward

Starting point is 00:46:11 to trying more things in the ring and having fun. But doesn't that come with heavy risk, like trying? Well, calculator risks. So how do you find that about? You just do it. So again, like, when I fought, what's his name? Like, Tavares, when I did that in the fight, or just do it. So again, like when I fought, what's his name? Like Tavares, when I did that in the fight,

Starting point is 00:46:27 or even the first victory fight, there was this move, spin move with the kick I did. I'd never tried it in the gym, but I was like, oh, I saw a Mally do this. And it landed and it's now always on my highlights. So those kinds of things, I just had the confidence to do them back then because I just do it.

Starting point is 00:46:42 Yeah, and if I'm confident in myself, like my tornado kick and kickboxing, I'd never tried it on my training mates because it just do it. Yeah. And if I'm confident in myself, like my tornado kick and kickboxing, I'd never tried it on my training mates because it's really dangerous. But then I knocked down a heavyweight with it in the ring live. First time ever trying it. I've tried it on pads, tried it on the bag, but I never tried it on a real person inspiring and I had him against the ropes. Boom, hit him. So shit like that I want to try and just have fun because I'm not really, again, my legacy is, I said this already, if what I've already done in this game,

Starting point is 00:47:11 a lot of people don't even get to the belt, a lot of people don't even get to the UFC, but I've done it twice, still the only two time middleweight champion. And if what I've already done in this game will make me happy, then what will? Exactly. What's going to make me happy?

Starting point is 00:47:23 It's like, no, I'm happy, but I'm not content. I still have a few things I wanna try, a few moves I wanna do, a few sequences that I just feel, and some that I don't even know about, that just gonna, when I see them on the highlights, I'll be like, ooh, that was tight. So they're yet to come. So I look forward to creating those.

Starting point is 00:47:40 That's the artist in me. Yeah. Cause I just like, again, submission. I know I'm a troka motherfucker. I'm definitely going to get one of those. The tricky, yeah, the tricky thing is like, whenever you fight, there's going to be demand and attention. There are certain people that their career ends

Starting point is 00:47:59 not because they want to tend. You got to break up with fighting before fighting breakups with you. And sometimes it breaks up with them and that's gotta be, thinking about how brutal that is because you're like, I still need this. I've seen it. I've seen it, I've seen it even in my own gym

Starting point is 00:48:13 where some people, and I'm just like, bro, he should stop because he's older and this and then you see the fight, he's just like, but you can't say anything, it's not my place. What is the conversation like with someone? As the coaches, so they have to have that conversation place. What is the conversation like with the coaches? So they have to have that conversation. And will they do it?

Starting point is 00:48:28 Will the coaches? Oh yeah, definitely. And how does that go? Will Eugene sit somebody down and say... I haven't seen it, it hasn't happened to me. I haven't had that talk yet. Yeah, of course not. But I think probably most coaches who care about you will let you know, like, bro, I

Starting point is 00:48:40 think it's time. And they'll see it and let you know and if you don't want to listen you're still stubborn then they'll support you because you're going to do it anyway yeah if you're going to do it anyway then they're like okay cool but aren't the coaches incentivized for having the fighters fight as long as possible so then they continue getting that's the coaches if they don't care about their fighters like these gyms who have fighters that just like it's just a mill it's. Exactly, all managers who have fucking 300 fighters on their roster, it's just, you know,

Starting point is 00:49:07 they can't care about all of them. Some of them it's just they're getting 10%, 20% here. It all adds up and they end up being rich. So it's about caring about someone and caring about their wellbeing. So yeah, you don't want to put someone in there and you're just on the world stage and that's it. Cause then the stock of your gym,

Starting point is 00:49:24 the stock of your fighters goes down. Yeah. Yeah. You want to keep it up. So I know you just not that kind of guy. Like he'll, me and him, even before that, I think I'll know before him. And probably even at the same time, we'll know. We'll just know. And then it'd be like, yeah, I'll know when it's time.

Starting point is 00:49:41 When do you want to break up with fighting? Sorry. I'll break up with fighting. You know, when it's time. When do you want to break up with fighting? Sorry. I'll break up with fighting you know when it would even like it's not even it's not you can't say what fighting it's it's not you it's me it is me because fighting is always gonna be there but it's me like it's father time we'll catch up with all of us at some point like I said now I have to have breakfast because I realized okay that actually helps you fuel you before your first training, rather than just rolling out of bed and then,

Starting point is 00:50:06 cool, let's get to the gym, do the damn thing. But yeah, when will I? I don't know, but I know, I said at 20 something, I say when I'm 34, I'm done with this game. I'm 35 now, but I know I still, I said I'm over the halfway point, then I'm definitely a few years away, maybe three years away, but who knows?

Starting point is 00:50:28 I know I don't wanna be fighting at 40. Would you do an exhibition? Go to Japan, have some fun, make some money? Maybe some wrestling maybe, but like after UFC, that's the, what the fuck else? Like, bro, all this shit, like go box or go do this. I'm like, nah, I've been on the top. The baddest of the baddest with the baddest of the baddest.

Starting point is 00:50:46 Like, what else compares? Like the UFC, you know, they get a lot of flack, but still it's the highest combat sports league in the game right now. So what else compares to that for me? And that was my dream to be in the UFC and then be a champion. And then, so I'm gonna go box some YouTuber for,

Starting point is 00:51:06 I mean, fuck, 20 million. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying, look, I'll pray on it. Yeah. Yeah. Inshallah, I'll pray on it.

Starting point is 00:51:17 But we'll see, we'll see. But like, I just don't think anything because of my code and my morals as well. I'm like, again, because of my code and my morals as well. Again, I'm not desperate for it. So yeah, I'm not desperate for that kind of money. Because again, shots of my popsies looked after the family seats.

Starting point is 00:51:34 So yeah, I think there's other ways to make money. Voice over acting, fucking video games. The video game world is crazy. So much more money than Hollywood. Yeah, because people are actually playing video games. Yeah, all people are watching movies that they used to. Yeah. Like so many new games.

Starting point is 00:51:48 I gotta go home and there's Wukong I'm playing and then fucking Warhammer I'm playing as well right now. I don't know if you guys, you guys don't game? No, not nerds. Yeah, well yeah, for me, those games right now keep me busy and I can see myself doing motion capture for those kinds of shit. That'd be sick.

Starting point is 00:52:02 Yeah, I'm great at motion, I've never done motion capture, but I know for a fact I'd be really good at creating certain things with motion capture and the possibilities are endless. Cause I could be whatever. You know what I mean? So yeah, that I'd love to get into.

Starting point is 00:52:18 I think that a lot of people like outside of fighting can't fathom that anybody does it for another reason besides money. And like the more that you talk about it, the less I feel you've ever done it for money. Yeah, I've done it for three, four years. Exactly, so it's like, so the idea, like the desire to keep fighting is to scratch the itch

Starting point is 00:52:42 that is still there, whereas everybody else goes, yeah, he's so fucking rich and he's got everything and he's got his health, he's got like, why would you even wanna do it? And then you're like, well, the same reason I did it for free, because it is the thing in life that excites me the most, it motivates me the most, it's the reason I get up in the fucking morning. It's like, I imagine when you have a fight sign,

Starting point is 00:53:02 like the three months before, it's like every single day has purpose Every single day is meaningful. Yeah, and Yeah, I think that's the perspective you got to look at it Yeah, this camp was my best camp in the sense that I did everything because again Father time you realize the way your body operates. So I did the massages every week What you call it Ice baths every day. The breakfast and nutrition was on. The strength and conditioning.

Starting point is 00:53:32 There was not one day this camp, because again, other camps, some days I wake up, I'm like, fuck my body. And just like, ah. But this last camp, there's not one day where I woke up, I was just like, this is fucking a drag. And it's cause I did all the things, all the little things. I see me at night with the fucking Hyper-Ryze boots on, you know, the ones that I've laid. I think ballers use it as well. So I was on that and- Dog uses it too.

Starting point is 00:53:57 Yeah, he's a baller. But yeah, so for me, I'm always trying to find ways to, how can I make this better? How can I make ways to, well, how can I make this better? How can I make the next camp better? How can I make myself better? And again, where we've done the testing now, I know where we're at, and I look forward to the next one.

Starting point is 00:54:13 And whenever that is, meh. I don't know, but best believe you'll see the best version of me again. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second because I got to tell you guys about Odoo. It has happened. Finally, a company has come around again. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second because I got to tell you guys about Odoo. It has happened. Finally, a company has come around that makes you not only starting your business, running

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Starting point is 00:56:06 Go now. Help it organize your business. Let it help you save money. You are very welcome. Let's get back to the show. All right, guys, we have to take a break for a second to share with you the power of positive thinking. OK. On a podcast few episodes ago while, you, while Bitcoin started to soar, and crypto looked like it was out of the gutter, we said, you know what, we want some money.

Starting point is 00:56:30 We wanna get some money. We shouted out an exchange, an OG exchange. The exchange has been around, what, 13 years? That's important. No FTX drama over here, okay? Hopefully. Hopefully, we all hope. But if you're still around, even after the bad times, you might be legit. We hope you our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best.

Starting point is 00:56:45 We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best.

Starting point is 00:56:53 We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best.

Starting point is 00:57:01 We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. We're doing our best. fine. Absolutely. Okay. I just want to point out right now. I just want to say this right now. Coffeezilla, we're doing our best. Coffeezilla is all above sea level, whatever that term is. Hey listen, Coffeezilla, you let us know if we're doing something wrong. Put on them suspenders, do whatever you need.

Starting point is 00:57:25 But we are, what is it, aboveboard? Aboveboard, yeah. We're aboveboard! Yes. Okay? I love everything Coffee Zilla. We love Coffee Zilla. We love Godzilla, we love Asians.

Starting point is 00:57:35 All Zillas. Everything. But especially Coffee Zilla, okay? Kraken is the exchange that we're working with, okay? Coffee, you hit me up. There's anything that you see. Okay? All right?

Starting point is 00:57:52 But Kraken is the one that we shout out and Kraken was like, yo, let's do some business. Yeah, they're all flush, cause Bitcoins are like 93 grand right now. So they're cooking, okay? They wanna talk to the boys. Okay? Do a little business. We're down to do business. Coffee's over. This is okay.

Starting point is 00:58:09 Hopefully it's not bank fraud. Hopefully it's not bank fraud. I think it seems pretty legit. It seems pretty legit. They've been around here for 13 years. This is not the same bank for free. There's none of that shit. Okay? What I'm trying to say is cracking God is a scary crack We're going to jail bro Anyway Crack and where it's at? That's what you told me in Sweden to Violated the law shouldn't have violated the law the point that I'm trying to make is Crack and put ten grand into each one of our accounts and we got to buy our own crypto with it,

Starting point is 00:58:48 which we are not endorsing in any way, shape or form. This is not an endorsement. Matter of fact, if I was you, I wouldn't buy anything I bought. I'm already down to be honest with you. It got deposited in my account. I looked at it. It was less than what he said. Do you hear what we're saying right now? We're being defrauded. We.

Starting point is 00:59:08 Your boy is up. Coach is letting you know your boy is up. He might be inside of training, Coffee. Go look at him. Go look at him. Look at him up. Look at him up. But my point is.

Starting point is 00:59:17 My name is Akash Singh. My point is we have all been given that 10 grand. Listen, and after how long are we gonna do until we? End of December. After end of the summer. Okay. The winner. Your boy's up.

Starting point is 00:59:32 I'm just laying y'all down. Gets a full investigative piece by Coffeezilla. The winner, so we are actively trying to lose money over. Listen, if Kraken wanna give us their money to lose, we gonna lose it. Let it be. Okay, but the winner gets investigated by Coffeezilla full. Listen, if Kraken wanna give us their money to lose, we gonna lose it. Let it be. Okay? But the winner gets investigated by Coffeezilla Full.

Starting point is 00:59:48 And again, Coffee, if you sense any foul play, we're too stupid to know if we play foul. Yeah. All you gotta do is hit us up. Word. All you gotta do is hit us up. You don't even need to hit us up. Just put a video about it.

Starting point is 00:59:58 If you put one suspender over your shoulder, we'll delete the whole podcast. Okay? We deleted the whole podcast. If? We're deleting the whole podcast. If one suspender goes over the shoulder, that strikes enough fear in our souls that we delete the whole podcast. Yes. But cracking. Cracking is where we're going to be doing our crypto.

Starting point is 01:00:17 Okay? So let's hope Bitcoin keeps rising. Let's hope that every annoying crypto dude out there thinks they're a genius now that crypto's up I liked it when they got had a little humility Oh, you know, I'm a genius now The arrogance You ain't know The arrogance

Starting point is 01:00:34 The arrogance, the arrogance When Trump got elected I became a genius It's a mock picks Go get him suspenders Coffee, get him Crypto and a cyber drug, second Trump got elected, isn't that crazy? Get them, get them coffee. This guy's MAGA. Get them coffee.

Starting point is 01:00:47 Dark MAGA. Get them coffee. Anyway, Kraken, listen, I just want to let you guys know once again, this is not investment advice. Matter of fact, it's the opposite. We're going to lose our money. Yes. If you want to lose money.

Starting point is 01:01:04 Then you pay attention to us, okay? Crypto trading involves risk of loss and is offered to US customers, excluding Washington, New York, and Maine, I'm pretty sure that's what those are. Oh, you nailed that. Killed that shit, right? Through Payword Interactive Inc.

Starting point is 01:01:21 You heard that disclosure I just gave right there? That's really important. Anyway, if you go right now to kraken.com slash flagrant or you just scan the QR code on the screen and that QR code better be legit. Start your crypto journey today with Kraken. It's been around for 13 years and had no struggles. So you can trust it. Yeah, you can trust it. Okay, it's all about trust. It's all about trust. Yes.

Starting point is 01:01:49 And doing everything above board. Yes, I love being above board. And staying above sea level also. Those things are important. Yes. And if for whatever reason we are investigated, I'm so sorry. We can just go back to this time right here

Starting point is 01:02:01 where we said we're horrible. Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. But I love that these crypto companies are making money so they can give us money. Yeah, that's great Mm-hmm. Are we allowed to say what we invested in there is that work is illegal? US Treasury bonds really trying to fuck We could do that But I think that's gonna keep me out of the investigation I didn't even know we could do that. Can we? That is... That's not what they want you to do. That is... But I think that's going to keep me out of the investigation.

Starting point is 01:02:28 That is good. SEC, I'm on your team. All right, just let the record show. I'm not worried about the SEC. There's no cameras in this room. Wait a minute. That's the only camera in this one. And then now...

Starting point is 01:02:36 I was looking here for a... You're just looking at a tripod. You just see? This is how it starts. This is how it starts. We're on 12 times, but we only had two cameras left. This is the only camera in this room. This is the only camera in this room.

Starting point is 01:02:44 This is the only camera in this room. This is the only camera in this room. This is the only camera in this room. This is the only camera a tripod. You just see? This is how it starts. This is how it starts. We're on top time, bro. We only had two cameras left. This is how it starts. We are bleeding money, bro. This is how it starts, Mark. Can we put our money in a B&H?

Starting point is 01:02:54 See? Listen, you plead poverty. You plead poverty, and then Coffeezilla does some investigative research. It turns out you're actually a trillionaire. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not like that. Camp Gagnon is over. Camp is canceled. No, no, no, don't do that. It looks like there's not going to be any camp sign-ups this year. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not like that.

Starting point is 01:03:05 Camp Gagnon is over, camp is canceled. No, no, no, no from the crypto shit You guys were like, but there's so much money in it We did it we didn't just do a Jewish accent Let me try that again, oh, but there's so much money somehow still accurate That's okay? All of a sudden, that's okay? That's actually good. That's okay. That's a bum board. You know, Jamaican guy that wants money is totally fine.

Starting point is 01:03:50 It's a bum board, now it is. Oh my Lord, man. Listen, shout out Kraken. You're talking about a food truck. Shout out Kraken is what I'm trying to say. Legally, you could legally take your own risk and invest your money in there to do your crypto stuff, which is obviously a risk, and you could do it legally. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it.

Starting point is 01:03:58 I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure I'm trying to say. Legally, you could legally take your own risk and invest your money in there to do your crypto stuff, which is obviously a risk, and you could do it legally.

Starting point is 01:04:10 Anything you guys wanna say else? Not guilty. That's what I'm saying. I blame Akash. What Akash do? He's hard to, they already taught him, man. We kept him out of this one on purpose. Coffeezilla's got him behind the building right now.

Starting point is 01:04:25 Time to check. Where are they? Show me the money. All right, man, but for real, we gotta get back to the show while we still have one. And we appreciate y'all, so go right now to kraken.com slash flagrant or scan that QR code, all right? You've always wanted to be part of something bigger than yourself. You live for experience and lead by example.

Starting point is 01:04:56 You want the most out of life and realize what you're looking for is already in you. This is for you. The Canadian Armed Forces, a message from the government of Canada. Well, the Strickland DDP is interesting because you probably want to rematch with it. Do you care about the Strickland fight? Oh yeah, come on man. Yeah, you want that back.

Starting point is 01:05:21 Come on man. But again, I know me and I know where I was during that fight week and all that. And again, that was his time. It was his week. That's the only fight of yours I haven't watched live. Ah, really? You just like...

Starting point is 01:05:32 Since we've known each other. Damn. So that's my fault. That's right. I forgive you, I forgive you. You were on stage. I think so. But I remember that.

Starting point is 01:05:40 You came upstairs. It felt weird. It's the only fight. Yeah, but it felt weird for me. And then like in the fight itself, like when he dropped me, I remember getting up and I'm like, oh, this nigga's hitting me. Oh shit, he's hitting me. And I looked at Mark Goddard and there's a picture of me. I'm like, I'm good. And he's still, he's probably like 18 punches deep. Wasn't really hitting me, but it was like hitting the guard. And I'm just like, cool. And I start fighting back. But the whole fight just felt like a weird

Starting point is 01:06:04 dream. Out of body dreams. Yeah. Like when you're're trying to like really and in a dream trying to hit the monster You're like fuck noodle arms. Yeah, so weird and again, it was just his week. He has pressure his game. Yeah He does apply good pressure and like consistent pressure while closing distance. Wait, so I fight him again like with DDP. I Walked him back a few times. 100%. I feel like he was just, like he was effective when he was doing that bum rush thing. It's such a weird, what are you thinking as a fighter?

Starting point is 01:06:34 Like literally your entire life, your coaches are going, whatever you do, don't run straight and just throw big, big punches because the guy's... Put your head down, not even looking. But why is it effective, you think? I think just him as a fighter, the style, the cadence, even his question mark kick, it's so slow. It's peculiar, though, right?

Starting point is 01:06:50 By the time you block it and come back, he didn't hit me with it, he was strickling with it, but I've seen him when he did it, he'd question mark and catch him, but it's so slow. By the time you block and come down, then it hits you. It's weird. It's weird. It's like off speed. Off speed, yeah, He's off speed.

Starting point is 01:07:05 I remember when Manny Pacquiao fought Manuel Marquez or whatever. One Manuel Marquez. His trainer after the third fight or something was like, now that Manny is a more orthodox fighter and more traditional, I think we're gonna have an easier time with him. Because before we never knew what was coming,

Starting point is 01:07:20 where it was coming from. It was so unorthodox, you couldn't figure it out. That's what I'm saying. The freedom, the freedom to try whatever, you know? But I don't think that's him. I think he's just awkward. That's his style. And also his will.

Starting point is 01:07:30 And durability. His will. His will power. When he's tired, he'll still go. Cause there was a bit in the fourth round, I was lighting him up and then he shot and I sprawled back of his head and my nuts hit him. Boom, into the ground. And I thought I rocked him maybe.

Starting point is 01:07:44 But then I get up and I'm there. And then, what's his name, refs are like, get up. He didn't get up, gets on his knees, and the ref's like, get up! And he finally gets up and I attack him, but he didn't even care about what he... He just wanted to throw, so he threw. And you have to address it because, you know, it's something coming at you, but he just throws just to stop you in your tracks. So he's not trying to hit you, he's not doing a aiming fight. He's throwing and hoping.

Starting point is 01:08:07 So it just stops in your tracks. It stops your momentum and then you have to go again. But there's Will, he's a stubborn dude, a stubborn dude, but you just have to out will him. And again, I can't wait to the fight, you know, guys like Strickland or whoever, because now, Pereira, the second fight, I remember thinking, like I told Eugene, I'm going to stress you out this fight. You know that, right? And he's like, what? I told Eugene, I'm gonna stress you out this fight, you know that, right? And he's like, what? I'm like, I'm gonna stress, cause I know in the corner he's gonna be like,

Starting point is 01:08:29 oh fuck, that was close. And then in Miami, that was, cause I'm like, nah, I'm gonna be right there. And I was pushing him back. When he pushes me back, and I'm like, nah, it's a, I know how to do it to people. So wait, when you go, when you went for Pereira two. I was like, yeah, let's go.

Starting point is 01:08:44 Like I told you, I'm gonna stress you out. Cause I'm gonna be right there. Because you had a lot of confidence going into 2. I was like, let's go. I told you, I'm gonna stress you out. Because you had a lot of confidence going into one, I feel like. And I feel like you were- I was beating him. Yeah. I mean, round one is 10 seconds longer.

Starting point is 01:08:53 It's a first round. Five, three seconds longer. That's what I needed. But again, that's the life of it. And then it got to the point where eventually, I lose to him and I say, all right, let's do it again. Then straight away, boom. And then in the part two fight, I'm just him and I say, all right, let's do it again, then straight away, boom. And then in the part two fight,

Starting point is 01:09:07 I'm just like, I'm coming at you. And even when I watch the walkout now. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, stop, stop, stop. You decide to come at him. Is that strategy because you think he thinks that you're gonna be, got him, okay. So they think, oh, he's just gonna move back and leg kicks and paw, paw, paw.

Starting point is 01:09:22 I'm like, nah, watch this. I told you, I'm gonna stress you the fuck out. This is like two weeks before the fight, or three weeks before the fight, two weeks before I hurt my knee. And then, yeah, so even going into that fight, fucked up me, I was just like, I'm gonna attack him and go forward.

Starting point is 01:09:34 So first round, the first thing that he realizes, oh shit, he's not afraid. So now his mental in that fight is gonna be completely flipped. Because they expected me to move back. And just kind of, oh, counter punch. So for me I'm just like, nah, I'm gonna attack him. Because sometimes people forget I can do that.

Starting point is 01:09:52 Until you show them, and like, oh shit, he can. So you put pressure on. I can, and then eventually he got me. Pereira, like certain people just used to taking leg kicks. How does that affect? That's when I'm able to push Pereira backwards. I go southpaw, because I can just check the leg kick. From this stance, I can just turn the knee in,

Starting point is 01:10:10 and then I was pushing him backwards southpaw. So I'm like, OK. Wait, is he traditional? He's, yeah, orthodox. Yeah. He likes orthodox. He can fight both ways, but not as good as. He prefers ortho.

Starting point is 01:10:19 And then when he throws that quick little leg kick. It's orthodox. And if you're orthodox, orthodox. That's when, so whenever for me, well, how? So you have to throw it to the inside of your calf. And they can just, it's orthodox. And if you're orthodox, that's when, so whenever for me... So you have to throw it to the inside of your calf. And that's easier to check. And then you're just leaning into it. Just turn the knee.

Starting point is 01:10:32 So for me, when he hurt my leg, and then I went south, boy, and this is by the cage, I was like, you know what? I'm going to bring him in. I just went and give him, so I went, you see me, I switched back to orthodox, so I was like, he's going to take the leg. Just seeing the tear that Alex is on right now, does that make the victory feel?

Starting point is 01:10:47 I hope he never stops. Because it just makes your victory feel so much sweeter, right? David, what'd you say the other day? No one's ever gone past two rounds, a round and a half with him. And I never thought about that till he said it. And I was like, oh yeah, only Yan, I think,

Starting point is 01:11:00 was the only one maybe. As a wrestler. Yeah, standing on the feet. Yeah again To stand on the feet with him and even he said you told me last yeah I saw it on Instagram. Hopefully this is a real quote But they were talking he was talking about they're asking about another guy that like I guess was in kickboxing with you guys I don't know if you had fought him. I haven't seen it yet I think Alex had fought him and they basically asked him. Do you think he'll be successful at UFC?

Starting point is 01:11:23 And he's like he's not Izzy. he's not me, like he can't do it. And again, I don't know your guys' relationship, and even if that's a real quote, because it's on fucking Instagram, but if it is, I think it's a pretty cool admission of respect. Well, now we know, like me and him know, every time to fight each other is not an easy fight. And now we've had that rivalry. And again, I've said this, people are like, oh, you scared, you scared. I'm like, then why did I fight him straight away after he knocked me out in the biggest fucking arena

Starting point is 01:11:50 in the world? But it's not that, it's just for me, the story itself, the whole story. Like even what did Dana say? You could do a 30 for 30 on us. That means crazy. Going back to it. And you should.

Starting point is 01:11:59 You will. You will. Honestly, like a 30 for 30 ESPN special on our fucking story from kickboxing and then him chasing me and then this and then we should even do an interview afterwards and just fucking Just the two of you. Yeah, sit down and I mean just Sharma. You know, and then I'll say whatever I was in and Sharma and then bro it out.

Starting point is 01:12:21 It seems like he has a lot of love for you, which I like. Yeah, yeah, it's Or respect. It seems like he has a lot of love for you, which I like. Yeah, yeah. Or respect. Respect. There's something about it, like if he knocks on one now, even me, like I let it go when he knocked me out. I never chased him.

Starting point is 01:12:34 I'm always fine. Like look, if the Sean fight never happens again, I'm fine. If you've never been in that situation, you never understand how to let go. You have to be willing to let go. You can't keep chasing these things. So for me, I don't chase them. They always come back around.

Starting point is 01:12:48 And that's how I know these moments come back around. But yeah, we've had that. If I fight him again and I knock him out, then, oh, look, it's three, two now. Best out of seven. Who am I fighting for? And then I only have how much more left in the game. I'm not gonna try and, you know, just to entertain people.

Starting point is 01:13:04 There's more fights I'd rather do. Couple more rematches I'd rather do. So yeah, I don't wanna keep chasing the same fucking, or beating a dead horse or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Now you said that you believe he actually does use spells. Look, we all have something. We all have some juju. Now we're talking.

Starting point is 01:13:20 A little. Now we're talking. Like I said, before I fought him in Miami, there was nights I'll just be just in the house shadow boxing, pacing up and down, micro-dosed up a little bit or macro-dosed or I'd be in the shower. I've said that shower is the greatest place to create.

Starting point is 01:13:33 Shower shrooms. Yeah. That's what you're saying. Shower shrooms and just like, there was one night, Chance is in bed sleeping in and I just go in his room like, tower on like, Chance, Chance. He bed, sleeping in it, and I just go in his room, like, tower on, like,

Starting point is 01:13:46 Chance, Chance, he's like, huh? What, oh shit, huh? I'm like, I'm on. He's like, oh, oh, oh, okay. Like, he knew straight away what I meant, because sometimes if he comes home and he hears the same track on a loop, and I'm in the shower, he just knows, ah, he's-

Starting point is 01:14:01 He's in his own. He's in there, in in that void he's creating. So again, I don't know if anyone else does this, but I just employ people to like these techniques. But yeah, that's my way of like, now he has his ancestors. You know, he has his people from his tribe. And even when I fought Rob the first time in Melbourne, I felt something with him.

Starting point is 01:14:22 I've never really spoken on this, but like everyone has something. I have my parents fasting and praying I have my uncle who was a pastor Prayer warriors back in Nigeria praying for me. So yeah, but also we all tap into it because we're indigenous people We know how to tap into the spirituality of things. So he definitely has an energy behind him that just Props him up gets him going and it's hard to explain unless you've been in there with someone and if like, if you have, you'll know. It's in the eyes, it's in the energy, it's the spirit.

Starting point is 01:14:51 So you can clown me and say, oh, it's fucking woo woo, whatever, but again, in the Western world, no one really fucks with that. It's all about science and energies and crystals. But you felt it with Rob? Cause Rob's what, Maori? Maori, yeah, something different. And also maybe my thing with the death note, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:15:07 But yeah, also he's the Grim Reaper apparently. But I felt it with Rob, it was something. But you know, this is things I don't like to, because I grew up in Nigeria, I've seen people get possessed. Yeah, I've seen, David, remember at the house in Shanghisha when that lady, do you remember as a kid? Oh yeah, now you remember. But then this, yeah, I've seen some shit.

Starting point is 01:15:31 We'll see what happens. Now, let's talk it. Let's talk it. Go. Okay, so now this one. Mark's locked in over there right now. He's a witness to divine creation. Our other brother Sam, he lived in Nigeria longer than us and then he came to join us

Starting point is 01:15:50 in New Zealand. Yeah. And he came with so many stories. Like one time after school, one of the students picked up a rubber band and turned into a yam. And then everyone said, oh, they've turned into a yam. And they cut the yam open. And then there was blood.

Starting point is 01:16:04 And I was like, you're a cat your line and then I went to our dad and he Was like is this true and he's like like these things happen like like no cap and he's not a bullshit He's not like a Doesn't need for clout. Yeah, I've seen some stuff in boarding school When he laughs and he's fucking rolling, he's hilarious. It's a little discouraging we haven't heard that in an hour and a half. I'm working over here. But it's true.

Starting point is 01:16:33 It's true. I've seen some stuff again. The one I was talking about in the house, after school we used to just hear random noises from the house above us constantly just blah, blah, blah, blah. What the fuck? She's speaking in tongues? And then one night, I remember like maybe around two or three a.m., the whole house, there was commotion, and then they took her to a church or something to go pray.

Starting point is 01:16:53 And then I tried to see her, my parents were like, just go in your room, go in your room, and lock the door. And then I tried to ask the housemaids the next day what happened, but everyone just kept, you know, ah, whatever, whatever. But I found out later on it was she passed the thing on. It was a house made from upstairs. She passed it to the mom and the mom passed it to the kids.

Starting point is 01:17:12 And then the dad was the only one who didn't get touched by it. But then they had to like do this whole exorcist shit. This sounds crazy, like some fucking movie shit. Actually, but it happens. I've seen it and again, boarding school, I've seen it as well. It's real. I don't want to go too much into it because then I just sound like a fucking crazy person.

Starting point is 01:17:28 But yeah, I already do. But still. We're experienced. What happened in boarding school? What happened, allegedly? Okay, boarding school, we're playing tag. And then this kid, whenever he go tag, he just kind of switch. And they catch on and start trying to beat them. And what the fuck, yo? Relax, chill. And later on, we couldn't find him for hours.

Starting point is 01:17:47 And then at one point, ah. At one point, me and this kid who were looking for him, we see in the night, lightning strike, strikes again, and he's right there running us in slow motion. And I'll never forget this, because there's moments in your life, you just, you just click. Let's get out.

Starting point is 01:18:01 And they just go. A guy running in, get out. Ah! And then we ran. And then people were like, what the fuck? We were like, he's coming, he's coming, he's coming. But yeah. So did he come? Well, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:18:13 Fuck, I didn't stay to find out. Okay. Yeah, get the fuck out of there. Yeah. And eventually they found him. They found him later on eventually. And he was in the bushes somewhere. This is in Auburn State, Bell's boarding school.

Starting point is 01:18:21 They found him eventually in the bushes somewhere. And yeah, I think after the next day, we never saw him at school. And he was like, I'm going to go to school. I'm going to go to school. I'm going to go to school. I'm going to go to school. I'm going to go. This is an open state Bell's boarding school. They found him eventually in the bushes somewhere. And yeah, I think after the next day, we never saw him at school for a while. Yo, Vala's got a story. There were some knives that flew off the shelf in Pakistan.

Starting point is 01:18:36 Remember that? Yeah. Wait, wait, what do you mean? Yeah, so I was at my grandma's house, whose house was like super haunted. It was on a burial site. And it was me, my cousins, my aunt who's deaf. And all of a sudden, these like steak knives like just flew like across the room

Starting point is 01:18:59 and stabbed my aunt's shirt through the couch. And we're all just like, it was my aunt and us, and we're just like screaming, like, screaming for help and nobody was there. And so my aunt had to like take the knife out and just grab all the kids and run out of the house. Did it pierce skin or just the shirt? No, just the shirt.

Starting point is 01:19:19 Damn lucky. That was your uncle trying to get a dope hole. He's like, oh shit. Going to a witch doctor, if you've got problems, your husband's cheating on you or something, it's like part of a way of life in some parts of Nigeria. You go, they'll do a little sacrifice, they'll kill the chicken, they'll give you something, they'll be like, go put it under your doormat. And then your husband will just stop cheating on you? When it stings on her, yeah. Like, if this one, trust me, bro, that you should take as a fact, this is it.

Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah. Have you ever used a witch doctor for anything? Hell no, no. We grew up in a Christian household, so we stayed away from that. But we call them Babalawo. I think in South Africa, they call them Sangoma. So everyone, different tribes in Africa,

Starting point is 01:20:00 have different names for them. But before Christianity, before all that, these guys were, and it's not because, you know, the Western world would say this is bad, this is juju, this is nab, but then it was African spirituality before Christianity or whatever came through even as life. Life evil. Yeah, yeah, life evil. But still, we, yeah, people tap into it, but I just stay away from it.

Starting point is 01:20:23 And I do it in my own way with certain things. So look, the spectrum of light is so different. Even when I'm on the shrooms, the way I feel, the way I see things, the way I perceive the world, I know there's more. There's way more. I've seen my cat rest in peace in the room. I used to see her at nighttime.

Starting point is 01:20:40 I mean, what is she chasing? I'm watching TV, I would just see her like, da-da-da-da-da, and just. And I'm like, what is she chasing? I'm watching TV, I'll just see her like, da-da-da-da-da, and just, and I'm like, what is she actually chasing? Because they can see far more than us in the spectrum of light. So it'd be egotistical of us to think like, we know as humans, we know what the fucking realm is.

Starting point is 01:20:55 Like, anyway, that's my Ted talking about. You see those cats that go and sit on the hospital bed when someone's dying? There's me, yeah. Like, they can smell something, and there's, have you heard this? Mark always tries to make us like cats, it's just never gonna work. It's just never gonna work. I don't know. No, this is why you shouldn't like's like have you heard this? He always tries to make us like cats

Starting point is 01:21:10 No, this is why you shouldn't like them brother going on the bed and shit they might be killing the people There was one I think was in England at a retirement home Don't quote me on this But then whenever the cat spends time with someone who never spends time with anyone and then oh He about to die and it became a thing and they put on the news and whatnot It's on YouTube somewhere. Yeah, and it turns out all those people were allergic to cats Yeah, well y'all Barry you're dead, you know cremate no That's weird y'all well white but that's. Nah, the Ganges is haunted, bro. The Ganges is haunted as fuck.

Starting point is 01:21:46 You gotta be careful with that. Where was the Ganges? That's the big river in India. That's where we spread ashes when someone dies. I see, I see, yeah. Where they pour it out. Yeah, I've seen it, yeah, they do. Pour it out for the dead.

Starting point is 01:21:55 Dirty shit water. Yeah. Wow. Talking about some great green. It's fucked up in Vala Center. Because there was a war. There was some racist films. My grandmother's ashes in there. Can you imagine how people went to 9-11

Starting point is 01:22:08 and started shitting on your ancestors? Went to the World Trade Center. You're talking to me or Dubz? That was good. That was good. That was good. Bro, you ever heard of the Serpent and the Rainbow, this book?

Starting point is 01:22:21 No. This is a book by this guy, Wade Davis, all right? Serpent and the Rainbow. He book. No. This is a book, ugh, this is great, by this guy Wade Davis, all right? Serpent and the Rainbow. He went to Haiti, IET. He's a Harvard psychologist. He hears a story about this guy. Let's go, Mark, dude.

Starting point is 01:22:33 Let's go. Professor Gagnon. Someone give me a Zen or a coffee. Let's go. You got a Zen? I don't. I'm off. Someone give me something.

Starting point is 01:22:41 You know the one I took back, allegedly? Still haven't tried it I probably it's probably expired now, but I saw Rogan even taking them I've seen other people take them and ever since you told me if you want to feel nauseous. Yeah, I'm disoriented. Yeah No, but I think maybe I'll try like a small one I just want to feel it because I know tobacco is a nootropic, right? Yeah I just wanna feel it, because I know tobacco is a nootropic, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:23:03 Yeah, I saw it. No, nicotine is a nootropic. It's a nicotine nootropic. Yeah, okay, bet. And it's good to small those. You do too much, then your nervousness is gonna be on fire. Yeah, nah, I'm not trying to do that.

Starting point is 01:23:10 Okay, tell us about your gay body. No, no, it's not gay. It's not gay. The serpent and the rainbow. It sounds gay, I know that. That's printing the rain. He's a Harvard psychologist, right? He goes down to 80,

Starting point is 01:23:19 because he hears a story about this guy. I got it. Clairvius Narsi. Alright, Haitian dude. That was a zombie for 20 years. Well yeah, of course. Everybody knows about him. Basically this guy claims that he was poisoned by a witch doctor

Starting point is 01:23:38 by Bokaru in Haiti. Gets... Good catch. I didn't even mean to do that. Sorry. Cat-like, right? Watch out. He finds out that basically he gets poisoned by a witch doctor, he gets buried, the witch doctor exumes his body, takes him to a different part of Haiti that makes him work as like

Starting point is 01:23:56 a slave on de Tora, like different drugs for like 20 years. Eventually he's able to escape after his witch doctor guy dies. And then he goes back to his family and he's like, you know, this is what happened to me. I wasn't able to escape. He put a spell on me or some shit. And this psychologist went down there and documented it. And was kind of like, yeah, it's possible that some of the drugs, he basically gave some validity to it, that it's possible that he was using puffer fish and this specific

Starting point is 01:24:24 thing that would basically put someone into a coma for a short period of time. And so he's basically trying to find scientific validity to this idea of there's this Haitian zombie, which is crazy. But, I don't know, the book, I've never read it, but it seems like there's some criticism both ways. Why do we want to believe all this shit?

Starting point is 01:24:40 Because it's a science thing. It's science. It's like conspiracies. It's like conspiracies. Exactly. Why are we so inclined? I've seen some shit, that's the thing. I've seen some shit, I've felt this shit. It's fine, dude. It's like conspiracies. It's like conspiracies. Exactly. Why are we so inclined? I've seen some shit. That's the thing, I've seen some shit.

Starting point is 01:24:49 I've felt some shit. So it's different. I'm not questioning if you've seen it or not. I'm saying why do I want to believe? You start the story, I want it to be true. Same. I'm sure that there's more. There's more.

Starting point is 01:24:58 Maybe that's it. Maybe we wanna believe in the supernatural. Because you have a God-shamed hole in your heart. When you told me. Shit. No, but when you told me the shit about the cats. I need to accept Jesus. I have accepted Jesus.

Starting point is 01:25:10 So. You're feeling empty, huh? No, but. That's why you have so many gods. Maybe more than one. No, there's a, but like I even see like my dog hanging around my child, right? And I'm like, well, they have a protective instinct

Starting point is 01:25:25 and she just knows or whatever. Or maybe it's because the people that give her the food are around the child. You know what I mean? But like, I want to believe this dog sees something pure in this kid. And then my baby tried to like take a toy my dog was playing with. And I just saw my dog go, herrr. Oh, nah, nah, nah. And I was like, oh, that ain't shit. These dogs ain't shit at all. You reprimand them straight away? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:48 Yeah, you have to. Yeah, I just reprimanded by throwing the thing continuously for it. Yeah, don't reward them. No, you're right. I have to make sure that behavior is not tolerated. Letting other babies up there. Is above them.

Starting point is 01:26:00 Yeah. That's a good point. Because that's how kids get high. But why are we so compelled to want to believe in, is it the supernatural? I think there's so much we don't know. Having some explanation for some supernatural phenomena, I was like, okay, there are things

Starting point is 01:26:14 that are beyond our comprehension that are happening out there. Oh, that's interesting. So it justifies all the things that we can't explain. So believing in these little things can justify the greater things that we don't understand. Okay, that's an interesting perspective. The inability to explain things is anxiety inducing.

Starting point is 01:26:30 It's like, oh, I say something that can jinx something, but if I knock on wood, I have some control over my, you know, my future destiny. Like those types of like superstitions. I love knocking on wood. And I'm surprised you actually have seen it and you haven't looked into it more. No, I don't want to.

Starting point is 01:26:44 I've never fucked with a Ouija board, nothing like that. Cause I just know as Nigerians, this is why on these movies, there's always white kids. Cause they're, oh yeah, let's go talk to the fucking. You know, you don't see no black kids fuck with that. Cause I know it's real. And then it can enter you. You know, it can like become a thing.

Starting point is 01:27:02 So I'm just like, nah, I'm good. So yeah. Well, you need to holler at some of the witch opponents Skills skills gotta get the edge on them Just bro, even in Nigeria they do it with them football. They put something at someone's goalposts. Just trying like that Do you remember this in the World Cup? There was a whole thing in the World Cup? No. Was it a thing? There was a whole thing in the World Cup,

Starting point is 01:27:26 this was like 2012, Nigeria was winning games, they got a call and there was a crow that was on the goalpost or some shit. Say we got Spongy. There's always something. They will try. Nah, but nothing's free, bro. Nothing's free.

Starting point is 01:27:38 You can't ask for dark favors without a kid taking on a debt. Oh, if they do that. Come on. You can't ask for dark favors without taking on a debt. Nothing's for free. I like that. We asked him if he heard from his pastor.

Starting point is 01:27:48 I know. What movie you got that from? Nah, everything needs a sacrifice. Christians, we have the one sacrifice. Yeah. How convenient, huh? Yeah. How convenient.

Starting point is 01:28:01 Because he died for the sins. Yeah, he sacrificed his only son. I don't think Jesus gets enough credit. Don't you think he doesn't? None of the moment, but again, I claim back the word God. You see me saying God? One day? No, no, I keep saying it now because at first it felt so triggering and I'd be like, the universe,

Starting point is 01:28:20 but I'm like, nah, God is the one, no matter what that force is, it's what we all tap into. Call the universe, this is just a euphemism for God. Yeah. Like even my boy, Sha Ike, when we were in Abu Dhabi recently, I went to the mosque with him and put the whole thing on. And then I went to pray at the mosque with him and he was really touched. He was like, man, none of my friends have ever come to the mosque to pray with me. But I was like, of course I'm going to tap in. It's a place, and I just went there, followed what he was doing, but I was just meditating. I didn't really know the Koran or speak the Arabic or whatever, but it's

Starting point is 01:28:52 just my way of tapping in with cultures. No matter what, you still feel the same energy. We're all still trying to connect to the same oneness. If I ever go to a Hindi temple, I do the same thing. We did that. Remember we hit the track? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In Singapore, yeah. Where? In Singapore, the Hindu temple, in Singapore, yeah. Where? In Singapore, the Hindu temple. It's a track, you just run circles around it.

Starting point is 01:29:08 You walk mad lapsed. Oh, you just get you dizzy. Really? And then you walk out and they're like, oh, that was spiritual. I like that. The Indian 500. Just a little dizzy.

Starting point is 01:29:17 Yeah. Yeah. It's a little dizzy. It's a little dizzy. He's on, he's on. He's on. He's on. Mark is back.

Starting point is 01:29:23 Mark gotta take two weeks off the pod every single week and have a baby. That joke's galore. No, no, we went and we did it and it was cool. They were moving. They were moving. Yeah. I love the mustard too. But do you always, is that part of the culture is that you go around every single time like when you would go to temple as a kid? Usually there's like a certain, like a Ganesh statue or whatever, and you'll do the circle around the Ganesh odd number of times, one, three, five, seven, whatever.

Starting point is 01:29:48 Even at your wedding, I know it was the Sikh wedding, but there was also doing the circle. Yeah, we did, I think, five. Seven, no? Seven, maybe. We did five, you guys had to do two extra. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, fair enough. I don't even remember, to be honest with you. I know a Hindu ceremony is seven.

Starting point is 01:30:01 I know my shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all you need to know. And then remember when y'all tried to feed us mud? Oh yeah. The best. They tried to feed us mud. And they thought that we wouldn't know it was mud, but we ate it. We did eat it. It didn't taste good. It was delicious.

Starting point is 01:30:10 I think by that dude's toenail to this day. Specifically, his toenail. The guy that was scooping the scooper. There was a toenail inside. Yeah. Oh, they used a knife to. I don't know how they used it. The dude that was scooping, he had a toenail, and there's nothing against him.

Starting point is 01:30:20 He had a toenail. He had a toenail. He had a toenail. He had a toenail. He had a toenail. He had a toenail. He had a toenail. He had a toenail. He had a toenail. The guy that was scooping. The guy that was scooping. He leaves a knife to... The dude that was scooping, he had a toenail. And it's nothing against him. We all... Dove has a toenail, but he had a toenail specifically.

Starting point is 01:30:32 Shoes off, and then also scooping. And I've just never forgotten the toenail. With the foot or? No, he wasn't scooping with his foot. He just had a long toenail. You saw it. He was feeding you, but he also had a barnacle. And you're like, ugh.

Starting point is 01:30:47 I went back for seconds, by the way. What is that? I had multiple. I had multiple. Shout out to that, what would you call it, temple? Gurdwara. Gurdwara. Shout out to that Gurdwara.

Starting point is 01:30:55 They had the best, what do you call it? Prashad. What is it? Prashad. They got the best Prashad in Jersey. Yeah. So if y'all want a fire Prashad, you gotta pull up to that Goudoir.

Starting point is 01:31:06 That shit was, you remember that? Yeah. That shit hit the hand and I was like, mm. I said boom, I ate it. And then after eating it, I didn't even know if we were supposed to. Like, cause I was so hungry, I was starving. And I ate that shit and I was like,

Starting point is 01:31:22 ooh, they onto this mud shit. They onto that. We they onto this mud shit. We gotta look at mud different. I did feel that way. That shit was delicious. And I said, yo, run that back, Toe. You didn't laugh. Run that back. You weren't supposed to eat it, I don't think. I don't know. You turned into a sculpture. You're supposed to paint it, make something. But you know Gani used to read the New Testament? I read that today. Apparently he read the New Testament all the time. Of course he did. All the boys do.

Starting point is 01:31:51 King James version. Probably. Everybody does. Someone said, why wouldn't you become a Christian? And he said, if I ever met a true one, then I would. Wow. Which I was like, yo, this guy's... Gani's quick. Gani's quick. Gani's quick.

Starting point is 01:32:03 I love your Christ. It's your Christians I have a problem with. Yeah. I was like, anybody be saying that. Gandhi's has a part. So what? Same. Yeah, no, but that's you. You're who they talking about.

Starting point is 01:32:12 Me? Yeah. You're who they talking about. I'm modern orthodox. What? Gandhi made you go back to violence. I made a new one. I made a new one.

Starting point is 01:32:20 No, no, no, you're right. But listen, we have to aspire to be the only perfect one of Jesus, go meet him then. Yeah. He probably did already. What'd you grow up, Andrew, as Christian? Nah, we weren't religious. My parents weren't religious. He's still not to be religious.

Starting point is 01:32:33 Yo, so what? So what? So what? So what? So it's so funny, like now that everybody hates Jews on the internet, they hate me for being Jewish. Before that, they did- Wait, you're not Jewish.

Starting point is 01:32:45 I know, but they think I am. Ah, the name, so. But like- Which is really a sign of success, if you think about it. Yeah. Well, that is also, yeah. Well, I was gonna say like, people just hate you and then attach whatever.

Starting point is 01:32:55 This is what it's like. This is a quick, the best example I can have for you is like, whoever cuts you over, cuts you over, cuts you off in like a car. Yeah. It's just the first thing that you think you know about them, you attach to your anger. And they're like, oh.

Starting point is 01:33:07 If it's a woman, you bitch can't fucking drive, whatever. And so they just think that I'm Jewish. Yeah. And I just be letting them think that shit. They don't even care to check. They just like, yeah, you're most be and just on you. Yeah. But you're not throwing them off the trail though.

Starting point is 01:33:20 You're right dude. Yeah, I'm kind of letting it. I gotta let them think, bro. And then when they see me in heaven, they're like, what are you doing? Ah! Someone's got some forgiving to do. Bye bye.

Starting point is 01:33:31 Someone's got some forgiving. Why'd your mom name you Israel? Was that a... Nah, so actually I was gonna mention this while you were talking about naming your baby. So in Nigerian or Yoruba culture, when you have a baby, you meet the baby for about a week first. So you're in the house with the baby for about a week,

Starting point is 01:33:48 get to know the baby a bit. And then- Indians do that. That's when you have the naming ceremony, right? Yeah, naming ceremony. Yeah, I went to one. Oh no, you went to one. Yeah, so we don't do baby showers.

Starting point is 01:33:57 That's a new thing now in Nigeria, but we still have naming ceremonies. And then, like say, people from my mom's side and my dad's side, important people, like my mom and dad's parents gave me a different name. My dad's parents gave me a different name. My mom's big sister or favorite sister or something. So Israel was the name from the pastor, from God,

Starting point is 01:34:16 that was ordained by me. So then, Mobolaji was the second name that my parents, they gave me that name. So then. Mobolaji. Mobolaji, that's fire. Yeah, so it means born with wealth, born with riches. So each of my names have meaning.

Starting point is 01:34:28 Mobolaji. Yeah. That's what Israel means actually. Is it? Hey man, isn't that the people of God? Mobolaji, that's fire. Israel, Mobolaji. Temitaiyo odunayyo oluafemi olabi adesonya.

Starting point is 01:34:43 So that's all my names, but then again, as a pastor's doing all the religious leaders doing it. What poor girl got it when you say my name? Who's pussy is that? You're a pussy. That's it. That's it. Here's your mobile. I'll get it. As a religious leader is doing it, and then they have like sugar, salt, water, honey, and then we'll dip the finger in the water, say this is the essence of life, and have a proverb about it,

Starting point is 01:35:18 and then, I don't know, like some type of thing like that. But then, yeah, I think it's beautiful. I think it's a cool thing to do. They have like the throwing of money too? That's normal. Bro, we went to church. I just came back from Nigeria.

Starting point is 01:35:30 Man, this is why I love stripping. This is why I like stripping. This is why I like stripping. People making it rain. Jesus up there in his underwear. Yeah. I don't disrespect you. Nah, man, we're back in Nigeria at church

Starting point is 01:35:43 and then the offerings, we did a tithing and whatnot, but then we went back for my dad being ordained as a minister in this church. And then, yeah, to celebrate, we just, and then that's more money for Jesus, you know? And it just looks cool, because, you know, naira and dollars don't compare. So when you take $500 over there, it's like,

Starting point is 01:36:00 you let it rip. Yeah, you let it rip. Let's get the stack. You understand? And it's cool, man. Even in the it rip. Let it rip. Let's get the stack. Let's get the stack. And it's cool, man. Even in the clubs, we were at the club there and the vibe was so cool, man. Saxophonists playing as they're playing real like,

Starting point is 01:36:13 you know, hip hop, R&B music in the club and the drummers. And then you're just there like this, this, this. And then, man, I just, I like that about our culture. We're not scared to flex. Like Nigerians in Africa, we're the biggest flexers. We taught all Africans, everyone else how to flex like Nigerians in Africa with the biggest flexers. Yeah, we taught all Africans all everyone else had a flex, you know washing your hands with champagne that shit. We started that Yeah

Starting point is 01:36:45 African dudes flexing on water? You've seen that one, right? Oh yeah, with the wee ass in the middle of the water. Like, what's up, bitch? I don't know about those ones. No, but the name Israel means like, it was given to Jacob. Shut up. Shut up.

Starting point is 01:36:55 I wanna hear it. Tell me. You wanna know what his name means? Yeah, tell me. I wanna know. I'm joking. Jacob was named Israel, it's one who struggles with God. So it's like that entangled with an angel or something.

Starting point is 01:37:07 Jacob wrestled God. Wrestled God, came out strong, and that was the name given to him, Israel. Which is crazy. It's a connection between the divine and the human, and then he came out strong. I forgot about that Bible story. When he said it now, I'm like boom.

Starting point is 01:37:22 Us Christians wrestle with God every single day. No, you're out. You're not wrestling with God every single day. No, you don't. I know that. You wrestle with God every single day. Bro, the funniest Jew story that y'all got in the Torah. I like when they pointed at me. That was feist, dude. Let him know, let him know!

Starting point is 01:37:37 The funniest Jew story? Yes, let him know who the boys are! Give me garlic. No, the funniest Jew story is when Abraham, God's about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, and then he tells Abraham, y'all I'm gonna destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. And then they tried to make a deal.

Starting point is 01:37:53 Exactly, bro. They tried to make a deal. Abraham's nephew was living in Sodom and they were like, let me buy up that land. What if I give you all the girls in town? No, no, better. What if I give you my daughters? God goes, if there's 50 righteous people, I won't destroy it. And Abraham's like, all no, better. What if I give you my daughters? God goes, if there's 50 righteous people,

Starting point is 01:38:07 I won't destroy it. And Abraham's like, all right, bet. And he's like, oh, fuck, there's not 50. So then he goes, what about 45? You won't destroy it. And he's like, all right, I won't. And he gets them down to 10. Yep.

Starting point is 01:38:16 And literally negotiates with God. They are good. And God's like, oh, yeah. That's the wrestling. That's how it goes wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it's wrestling. It's called negotiating. Yeah, yeah it goes. Yeah. It's wrestling. It's called a go shoot.

Starting point is 01:38:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ju-jitsu. I don't know. Autumn, autumn, autumn, autumn. Yeah. We have t-shirts called ju-jitsu. New merch. The Spar Mitzvah.

Starting point is 01:38:36 Oh. That's a normal one. OK, so the gefilte fish. I was thinking, I was thinking. I don't know what that is. It's like some fish that they eat. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. But gefilte fist is what you said, right?

Starting point is 01:38:51 Yeah, yeah. That's what it smells like afterwards. Ah, nice. Are there any Jewish UFC fighters? There's a couple, right? Must be. I can't think of any right now. But back in the day, a lot of boxers were Jewish. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:04 Back in the day, years ago. I'm trying to think think UFC fighters, they don't have to be rich fighters. They do World Olympics. True. I have a question. Izzy, I know you're a big fan of anime and video games and all of that. When you were a kid, I don't know if you had the same thing, when I was a kid I watched Dragon Ball Z and I would just imagine I'm whoever it was at the time. You sort of got to grow up and be them.

Starting point is 01:39:28 You got to be Goku or Gohan or Trunks or whoever your guy was. Who was your guy when you were a kid, and also if you were in that world now, if you were in their universe, who would you want to fight the most? That's a good one. Okay, so.

Starting point is 01:39:43 That's a good one. Okay, so So for me whenever I do fights now like example the and soified I Had roughly in my mind. So when I was getting introduced, I took the weights off, bam. Rock Whitaker, Death Note. Depends, I always have a character I like to embody or a moment, even when I fought Pereira the second time I was Jet Lee in Unleashed, like it doesn't have to be animated, but like a character I relate to.

Starting point is 01:40:17 As a kid, Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles, Action Man, it was a lot. Like we used to just pretend to fight in the fields as a kid. If I would go back now, Power Rangers was like one of the top at the time. Which one? Yeah, which Ranger? Come on, Black Ranger.

Starting point is 01:40:36 No, no, no. Either him or the Red Ranger. But the Black Ranger, cause it was relatable, but the Red Ranger, he was cool too. But if I was gonna Let me see damn if I go back kill somebody with a sword. Oh for yeah, yeah the green Are the yellow me was the yellow? Yeah, black was black yellowization

Starting point is 01:41:01 my elementary school He's an MMA fighter now, I think. The white ranger. He was an MMA fighter. He was an MMA fighter. Tom Tiffman. And then the same guy. Zack was black, that's all I remember.

Starting point is 01:41:14 But there was the green ranger, I think, killed someone with a sword. Damn. That's on bar. That's like what you're supposed to do. Method. Method acting. Man.

Starting point is 01:41:24 Oh, wow, yeah. Yeah, Power Rangers star admits to killing a roommate with a sword. Oh, admits to it. Oh shit. Why? Crazy. He or she. He had a roommate. That's sad.

Starting point is 01:41:36 That's the saddest part of the whole thing. Fucking Power Rangers had a roommate, dude. He was in a flex three bedroom. Crazy Power Rangers stories. The first cast of Power Rangers were really popular and they were like, yo We want more money and there's a non-union set and they just fired all of them and brought new kids in Fuck. Yeah thing keeps moving. They thought they were bigger than the brand. Yeah Alright guys, we got to break for a second because we need to talk about your pants game Some of your pants games are crazy out there. I mean like, I don't know clue who decided

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Starting point is 01:46:18 Lou's. Oh, yeah. Thank you for doing it. Of course. I appreciate it. It was very fun. And it's this spot that is on, was it St. Mark's between 2nd and 1st?

Starting point is 01:46:27 Yep. And how often are you guys gonna do it? Right now, once a month. Yeah. And then hopefully more. We'll see what happens. I think it's a great, it's a great, it reminds me a little bit,

Starting point is 01:46:36 there's this spot, Cabin, do you remind me of Cabin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, the place is much cooler than Cabin, but the vibe of Cabin was, there was like a bar area where people could hang out and chill, and then there was like a room for the show.

Starting point is 01:46:46 And so I think it could build into something like that. So if you're in the city, man, go check out the show. Thank you for saying that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was fun. We're doing sets tonight. I don't know if I was gonna, but then. I'm on baby.

Starting point is 01:47:00 Last night was fun. You guys had fun? Yeah, it was good. Just the host was funny. Some of the guys that came up and girls, yeah, it was good. Just, the host was funny. Some of the guys that came up and girls, yeah, it was a good show. I like the vibe.

Starting point is 01:47:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like you thought the show was all right last night. Yeah, I mean, come on, it could have been. I wanted to say, bro, I was exhausted. I know, I know, I know. Baby, bro. I understand. That baby's up at six every morning, no matter what. I don't care about my show.

Starting point is 01:47:22 But yeah, I wanted you to come out. How was Austin, bro? I saw you livin' it up in Austin. Did you do Kill Tony? Nah, I thought you were gonna do it, man. Nah, because I film on Mondays, but I just wanted to be at the comedy mothership and just see, because again, and I said this for me,

Starting point is 01:47:36 I was a fan of these guys and even us, like we're friends now, but me and these guys for the first time, like Hans Kim, Ari and them. You've probably watched them so much online. Yeah, so I'm. Yeah, it's a cool moment to see him. This is cool And again, I know for them they feel the same way, but I'm a fan. Trust me, they're way more excited. Yeah Yeah, I'm excited. I kept on telling Tony how I'm so proud of you seeing this apartment I was like man, this is fucking cool. I told him probably like seven times Yeah, he I like the way he just takes pride in himself

Starting point is 01:48:05 just walking around and showing us like, yeah. I did this shit. Cause he's such a, cause he's so little, but he's such a boss. He's just like, I did this shit. It's amazing what they've built that show to be. Like Kill Tony. It's so good.

Starting point is 01:48:18 Yeah. And they built it, man. And he's thoughtful about every aspect of it. They got it out of the mud. Cause it was the one at MSG. I told him though, at the end, I didn't out the mud. Because it was the one at MSG. I told him though at the end, I didn't like the fact that they rushed the second show at the end.

Starting point is 01:48:28 I was like, what the fuck? That was my complaint. Yo, Doug can speak on this. Doug can speak on this. But he said it was because Madison Square Garden had a fine for 100K if they went overtime. It might even be more. True.

Starting point is 01:48:40 Like you gotta get out that menu, bro. Yeah. You gotta get out that menu. Yeah, because they were just like, the next people didn't even have the buckets. They were just like, cool, boom out that venue, bro. You gotta get out that venue. Yeah, cause they were just like, the next people that even have the buckets, they were just like, cool, boom, this guy comes up, like all the comedians that had it set, they were like, 30 second sets,

Starting point is 01:48:53 quite cool, thank you, we gotta keep moving. And I was just like, hmm. Nah, it's a... But that's just me as a Karen. Because, you know what it probably is? There was probably an event the next day, and they started loading in that night before. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Because to you, you're still on MSG, but the next day and they started loading in that night before.

Starting point is 01:49:05 Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Because to you, you're still on MSG, but to the venue they're like, that's Tuesday. Yup, yeah. We got other stuff. That's so crazy. Do you guys have like a production trailer

Starting point is 01:49:13 whenever you go around the world? Do you have like a, what do you call it? Like a set or something that you have to say, lighting or is that supplied by the venue? You wanna know some crazy shit? Tell me. We were on this tour for months. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:49:28 And I never really like inquired on how like we got all the lights and shit. I'm like, bro, I was about to say. You're a fucking mensch. Every time I would show up, the lights would be there and I'd be like, that's fire. It is astounding how much Dove does and you have no fucking clue.

Starting point is 01:49:44 Yo, yo, yo, shut up. Shut up. He was sitting, no, no, he was sitting. You tell him, tell him. I showed up to the fucking venue once. I forget where we were. And there was like two 18 wheel trucks outside. That's what I'm saying, so you guys have that.

Starting point is 01:49:59 Good fucking friend. I showed up. Does he bring it? It wasn't MSG, it was somewhere else. It was showed up and I walked out and I was like, damn, who's here tomorrow? Cause I thought it was like Guns N' Roses or something. I was like, who the fuck is performing here?

Starting point is 01:50:11 And then I remember Dovin Sherrill like, this is our stuff. And I go, we got two trucks? We have four. Oh shit. On a big show? Yeah. We have four, but it was crazy.

Starting point is 01:50:21 You see how much money they're wasting? No, no, no. He's definitely on it. He's definitely on it. He's boggling it. No, but he was crazy. We were- You see how much money they're wasting? No, no, no, he's definitely on it. He's definitely, he's blogging it. No, but he didn't even know until, for MSG as an example, like Drake or Travis Scott for an MSG show, that's 25, 35 trucks that are out there. Oh shit.

Starting point is 01:50:39 And we're talking about the 18 wheel, huh? I know the ones. And he's talking at MSG, everything needs to be unloaded by forklifts, so you've got dozens. They're just all lined up. It's pretty awesome when you see everybody put it together, but also when they take it apart. Yeah. And they are. But he didn't know a few days ago from from Jelly Roll telling you how many trucks he had. And I'm like sitting there saying, what time was your load in to get this all up and he's like

Starting point is 01:51:05 Walk and chalk it three o'clock in the morning and Andrew's like, yeah, what's what's what time you're doing? That was like yours was at 6 a.m. He's I didn't see that. I was like we saw An empty shell. Yeah, and there's Yeah, it's in and there's a whistle that blows in the now the rigging crew comes in now this and then you so even if You have to go say Abu Dhabi when you do that, do you have to transfer all your stuff over there? You get local vendors. Oh, okay, I see, I see, okay.

Starting point is 01:51:30 But like, I would say our show is probably has a lot more elements than the average stand-up show. But I would say that Kill Tony is a production too, so they'll have multiple trucks. But I think the average stand-up show doesn't do it like that. I think a lot of guys just show up and like, whatever's here, they do it.

Starting point is 01:51:48 And we did that for years. Y'all have flames. We just, yeah, we wanted to see what we could do. And also like, there's a part of you that is, there's a part of you that selfishly you wanna put on the best show. There's also a part of you that like, at least my relationship with the people

Starting point is 01:52:03 who come out to the shows is like, they built this with me. Like I have like this insane gratitude. I feel so guilty. Like if they'll come to me and they'll ask me like, oh, this thing is fucking, to put a screen, it's another 10 grand. It's like, but what if the people can't see? Like those people probably came to five shows like, and now they're going to be at MSG and not, yeah, we have to spend.

Starting point is 01:52:23 So you feel, you do feel this, like, immense gratitude. I don't know if I'd have to ask a comic that, like, they were in movies first and then they did comedy. I wonder if they feel that same relationship. Like the Swarm-ability, like they do. I don't know if they do, and they might, but I feel like it is, it has to be the best show that I've ever seen.

Starting point is 01:52:43 Here's a question for you guys, both of you. I remember when I filmed my special, I put all this money into it and I'm like, it has to be the best show that I've ever seen. Here's a question for you guys, both of you. I remember when I filmed my special, I put all this money into it and I'm like, I don't know what the fuck I'm spending all this money on. Then you walk in and you see, I don't know, 50 people, 100 people working on this thing. And then you, I remember thinking to myself, and y'all are doing it on a much larger scale,

Starting point is 01:52:58 I remember thinking, oh, all of this is for me. And you feel, I had to block it out pretty quickly because it's like a lot. But you're like, when you walk in MSG, you walk in MSG, you see all these people work in 6 a.m. How much pressure do you feel where it's like, oh, all of this is for me. I got to fucking deliver, like not just the fans that are coming. These people whose jobs are building this stage for me,

Starting point is 01:53:21 putting this screen up for me, building this ring for me. Do you feel that? Because I felt that for a second and I was like, that will swallow me. Not really like, exactly, that's not my money, it's Dana's money. So, I don't mind, I'm all right. You know, that's cool.

Starting point is 01:53:34 But again, I've heard from behind the scenes, there's only been ever two fighters that do like a ring walk beforehand, like go to the venue the night before. That's me and John Jones, the only two that go there prep and just kind of have a little look-see. So when I did the one in Melbourne, where I danced, I told everyone on the mic,

Starting point is 01:53:55 please, I know if you're in the working, just don't film nothing like that, then I did it. But then I felt like I'm gonna fucking kill this shit. I just felt like, I just knew, I didn't really feel pressure because I went to bed that night watching the rehearsal and just, that's how I fell asleep with my phone in my hand, just like, again, this is gonna fucking blow.

Starting point is 01:54:15 So it took my mind off the fight and I was able to just be like, fuck. And then, yeah, so it wasn't pressure. I was just like, I'm gonna fucking kill this shit. That's how I felt. Yeah, I don't't pressure. I was just like I was just like I'm gonna fucking kill this shit. Yeah, that's how I felt Yeah, yeah, I don't feel the pressure of that But I do feel the gratitude of it at the end like well a lot of times go back to the venue and like maybe We'll be we'll go to a seat where people are watching and because it's weird being a human is weird you get used to

Starting point is 01:54:40 Unbelievable shit like I'm sure that's what happens with you You get used to going in there like fighting a guy who's trying to kill you. People get used to war. Like, there's just part of being a human being. We can get used to these like wild circumstances. So you can get used to performing in an arena. But since you don't do that often, I've been back at MSG since I performed there.

Starting point is 01:54:59 And I'm like, we performed here twice. Like your fucking brain explodes when you're looking at another place. And that's where the gratitude sets in. When you see all the people working to like remove the floor, you start going, whoa, how fucking lucky am I? But it's not daunting beforehand. Like there's like one objective. Yeah, the first time I ever felt it, I remember when I was on Wild'n Out

Starting point is 01:55:19 and I wasn't even big on Wild'n Out. When we go to the premiere party, I bring my friend who's not in the business and he's like, dog, so many people's livelihoods depends on you doing well on this show, and not me specifically, but in general, and that was the first time it ever occurred to me, and now, again, if I think about it too much, I get overwhelmed, but I'm like, fuck, that's always fake.

Starting point is 01:55:35 You can't think about it too much, you just have to just accept it for it, and just like peek at it, like understand, okay, this is what it is, and the one you talked about was after I fought first time in MSG with Brunson, the next night, I went to watch the Knicks play and that's when I was kind of like. What the fuck?

Starting point is 01:55:49 I remember you going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh shit. Like this was, I fought there last night and now it's a fucking, the basketball is a plane there. There's a logo there. Derrick always says this to us. Whenever we're doing an arena, Derrick opens the show.

Starting point is 01:56:01 Derrick Post. Post and me, I saw him in Austin. Yeah, and he always says this, he's like, like if we're doing an arena or something, he goes, you know it takes two basketball teams to sell this out. Yeah, that's a bar. Yeah, yeah. That's fire.

Starting point is 01:56:14 Like if the Knicks just show up. No one's gonna sell us out. I heard, I mean, I love the Knicks, and I don't really follow basketball, but... We winning it all this year. Yeah, I've heard. Shout out to Cat, welcome to the Knicks and I don't really follow basketball, but... We win it all this year. Yeah! I was right. Shout out to Kat, welcome to the city, big purr!

Starting point is 01:56:29 Can we go through a couple fight videos? Yeah. And then you just break down kind of what we got going on? Oh, that's a great idea. Let's do a street fight video. Yeah, that's a great idea. I mean, you have some hits. Street Fight Companion.

Starting point is 01:56:40 Try things. What's a good one? That's fire. Street Fights. What we got? Okay. Oh, got popped. Nice recovery. The hair helped him. I called him a nigga too.

Starting point is 01:56:49 Nice. Let's go. I cannot square up. He's got to put his hair away because his hair is going to be a hindrance maybe, but he's going to hide on him. Other guys go back by the wall. Square it up. He's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got

Starting point is 01:57:03 to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's got to, he's gonna be a hindrance maybe. But he's gonna hide on him. Other guys go back by the wall, square it up. He's got it, he's got it. Asian guy calling a white guy a nigga, that's fucking- Oh no! See, I don't support that. No!

Starting point is 01:57:17 That's bad! See that- They not taking off his belt. I know they're not doing that. Why? Damn! Why they took off his belt? That wasn't even a fight, that was just a guy getting sheep shotted. Why they take his belt. I know they're not doing that. Damn. Why they took off his belt. That wasn't even a fight. That was just a guy getting

Starting point is 01:57:26 sheep shotted. Why they take his belt off. Nobody else focused on the other part. That is crazy. Lock the doors. Yo, they cut the video right after they took his belt off. No, fight a fair one. It's not even a nice belt. Like street fight video. See that was- What is going on? Yeah, who knows what happened after. I'm glad it cut off.

Starting point is 01:57:46 Mark, that made me feel uncomfortable that you brought that. I didn't know what it was, bro. I didn't know. Next one, that's a better one. Oh, nice. I like this one. Leg kick. Oh, I've seen this one.

Starting point is 01:57:54 Yeah, cool. Establish range. Oh, they can. Knock, swinging. Oh, took the shoes off. Oh, shoes are off. Now we on. Oh, oh.

Starting point is 01:58:01 There we go. Put the shoes back on. The Asian guy is on. It's an Asian guy got a nice grab. Boom, nice. Oh, he got a nice right. You, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh back in after getting clipped and like, cool, let's do it again as ego. You have to just pull back and reassess and do something different. Yeah. Spit at him. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:58:32 Spitting his eyes. Ah. And then you do something. Yeah. What was that guy who would prank the dudes? He talks shit and then get naked. Oh, you guys see that? That's so good.

Starting point is 01:58:43 But again, that's the way to do it though. You want to really... Have you seen that Kevin Peele sketch, man? It's Mike Tyson and he's a Jordan Peele is Mike Tyson and he's going up against another boxer. I think he's but and he starts saying what he's gonna do. This boxer like, I'm gonna beat him up. The fight problem.

Starting point is 01:59:04 The fight problem. And then Mike Tigger goes, I'm gonna beat him up. Oh my god. Okay, the fight problem. Okay, the fight problem I think my thing goes I'm gonna fuck you in the ass Go go cap saying that was Drake and Kendrick and Drake was the guy that was like kind of being playful with it Yeah, he has a guy that was like no, I'm gonna take his soul from his body. Yeah. Yeah I'm gonna fuck you and I'm gonna kiss you and then we're gonna date and I'm gonna Comfortable sharing but I'm gonna anyway Bro, that shit was diabolical. She got an ass. This is gonna be, oh yo.

Starting point is 01:59:30 So this video has everything, I think. First of all, I'm gonna Brazilian in there, see Dove looking, I like it. I see you. All right, you ready? Let's go. This Austin has gotta be Austin. This is Austin, Texas for sure. Sixth Street.

Starting point is 01:59:44 Sixth Street. A 5V1. 5V1. Oh, no way. Oh. This Austin has gotta be Austin. This is Austin Texas for sure. Austin for sure. Sixth Street. Sixth Street. A 5v1, 5v1. Oh, no way. Oh, for real. 5v1. Nah, that's dumb. I don't like street fights, eh.

Starting point is 01:59:53 Yeah, it gives me anxiety. Yeah, I just think it's not worth it. And my ego's in check. See all this? Cause you can get cheap shot from the back. Like this guy about to get cheap shot at the guy in the black. Oh, he just didn't again lost focus. Took his eyes off the target.

Starting point is 02:00:10 5-1 boom everyone slinging. That's dumb. Little bit run. Oh Jesus. Yeah. Austin will be wild. He's just swinging. He got he dropped two so far.

Starting point is 02:00:24 He dropped to keep moving. I like what he's doing. Keep moving and keep hitting. Never stay in one place. He dropped two so far. He dropped two so far. I like what he's doing. Keep moving and keep hitting. Never stay in one place. He's moving and hitting. That's what's up. That's what's up. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:00:33 Fall up. He won. Oh, that's it? Mark, find the video of the skater fighting like a pro. Oh, that's a classic. That's an iconic one. That's another one. This video ended rollerblading.

Starting point is 02:00:43 Yeah. This video ended rollerblading. That was it? Yeah, that was a classic. Wait's iconic. This video ended rollerblading. Yeah. This video ended rollerblading. That was it. Skater fights, 17 dudes. Seven, five guys. Yeah. Skateboarder fights, four skaters, I think. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:00:53 Now, that was a good one, again. Good strategy. Right there, top one. This is like an iconic. Classic. Yeah, it's original. Takes the shirt off. This guy's a legend.

Starting point is 02:01:01 Yeah, man. Mike Valley. Yeah. I think I've seen him talk about it as well. They called him a skater. Yeah. Again, I like that. Market. Yeah, thank. Mike Valley, yeah. I think I've seen him talk about it as well. They called him a skater. Yeah. Again, I like that. Market.

Starting point is 02:01:08 Yeah, thank you. Oh, yeah, true. No, it was written right there. I'm just quoting. Oh, that's it. Boom. Again, strike hard, strike first. In a situation like this, you can't wait for them to, I'm going to be the right, so let them hit me first.

Starting point is 02:01:21 Ain't that Karate Kid strike hard, strike first? They was right. Oh, take that one. And you going down, my boy. Turn around straight away. I like it. He's been in some tussles before. Michael Ailey is like street kid. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:01:35 What's his name? Michael Ailey. I like that mark it. Michael Ailey? We always look it up. I appreciate it. Wow. I mean, there's a whole YouTube page with millions of views. I like that with Street Fight Companions.

Starting point is 02:01:47 Yeah, Big Cat loves this page. Freestyle Bender? Yeah, but David, Street Fight, he's the producer of Freestyle Bender, so he kind of lets us know if it's kosher, if you will, on brand. Street Fight Companions. Would you do any like commentating? Not now. Even the breakdowns that I do,

Starting point is 02:02:08 I give really basic insights into things. I don't try and give the sauce. I don't want people to know how I think. I did a little bit for, during COVID, when I did the breakdowns early on of my old fights, and then you just was kind of like, let's do that shit. Well, you're giving away the juice.

Starting point is 02:02:23 Yeah, I'm like, yeah, okay, my bad. But like, let's say one day in the future, 20 years from from now something like that. That'd be fun. That'd be fun You invoke dude together just commentating after you both retire. It's so good I mean I do something for the UFC just for fun for the laws, but uh Sorry, you know how the NFL I don't know if you watch NFL football But they do a manning cast on Monday nights where both Manning brothers They have the regular commentary you can also go to ESPN2 or whatever. And watch both.

Starting point is 02:02:46 Pain and Eli Manning. Pain and Eli Manning. Just talking during a game. You and Vulcan doing that, you Vulcan Hooker doing that, could be just so good. Just viewing and just kind of like what we're gonna do tonight. Just watch party type shit.

Starting point is 02:02:57 It's also fun because, and like that's why I think having a guy like DC in there is so valuable. It's like a guy who knows. Michael Bisping. Bisping, another one. Fighter, former champions. Like having people who have been in there and they may. It's like a guy who knows. Michael Bissbing. Bissbing, another one. Fighter, former champions. Like having people who have been in there and they may or may not know what the fighters feel.

Starting point is 02:03:10 Sometimes they be saying some shit. And I'm like. No, no, they get it wrong. Yeah, no, no, not even that. It's like their emotions. Get the best of them. Yeah, and I'm like, be neutral. You can see it.

Starting point is 02:03:20 Oh really? Yeah, you can see it. But again, that's why you have professionals like John Anik and Rogan as well, who can just try and be, even if Rogan is a friend with someone like John Anik, they can kind of like separate themselves. But fighters, we are emotional beings.

Starting point is 02:03:32 So we sometimes, like Michael Bisping, shout out to him, because one time in Vegas, my second or first year in the UFC, no, first year in the UFC, after I fought Bratavirus, he comes, I'm at a pool party, I'm shirtless, and then he comes up, sees me, gets on the fucking bar, there's the fucking guy, takes his shirt off and all this, but then we have a real D&M, and he tells me like,

Starting point is 02:03:54 you know, I probably said a lot of things about you, out of jealousy. Oh, that was cool from the start. I appreciated that, and then he gave me some game, and then at the end of the night, he goes, check this. He pops his eye out. I'm drunk. He's drunk. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? Hold it. And he's telling me like, yo, this, this is the sacrifice

Starting point is 02:04:12 you have to make sometimes. You have to be careful who you fight. This and that. Make sure you get in here. Do your thing. Get your money and get out. Because this and this and that. And I'm like, careful, careful. Cool. Give it back to him. And then and then that was it. So, again, that's one of those, careful, careful, cool. Give it back to him. And then, and then that was it. So again, that's one of those moments.

Starting point is 02:04:27 I don't know if we took that, I took a photo with Jorge that night, but I don't think I took a photo with Bisping, but that was a moment for about 40 minutes we hung out, drank, and then we had that moment where we just talked for about 20 minutes after and just like, oh shit. And he put his eye on my hand to let me know, this is some real shit. this is what could happen to you

Starting point is 02:04:46 if you don't play the game right. So yeah, I appreciate those moments. Even with GSP, he always pops in into my life, kind of like Avatar Roku in a way. He'll just pop into my life. Like in Austin Hughes, he just showed up and again, dropping wisdom, boom, boom. And I'm like, yes, I need this.

Starting point is 02:05:04 Thank you, master. And then it like, yes, I need this. Thank you, master. Yeah, it's... And then it's a missed. Like having those people who've had that experience, like going from nowhere to the top, and you're now one of these people, it's interesting because like the behavior of most, I'm not saying this is you,

Starting point is 02:05:21 but the behavior of most when like they're at the bottom and nobody notices them, there's a freedom to that because you say wild shit about the people at the top because they're these mythical figures. They're not real. You've never met them. So they don't have families,

Starting point is 02:05:34 they don't have emotions or whatever. And I've even noticed that in our businesses, you start to get a little bit higher and then you start meeting these people and then you realize everything you say on a podcast, everybody hears about it. you start meeting these people and then you realize everything you say on a podcast, everybody hears about it. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:05:47 Like Kamala watched us do the rants. Sure. 100%. Or at least someone on her team, you know, and you start going, oh wow, like these people are, these people are human beings. And then you start going like, you gotta really believe what you say or really believe in the jokes of it. We're at a point now where like everybody hears.

Starting point is 02:06:05 And it's something you think about like when you start meeting them and you meet a lot of people that you think might suck that end up not sucking. And they end up being kind of like good people who are a little bit misunderstood or they really want to be famous. So maybe they do something that once you meet them, you're like, oh, you don't even really believe that but you want to have success for whatever reason. You start to have like a lot more empathy for them. You humanize them.

Starting point is 02:06:26 Yeah, 100%. And that's just like, it's just a wild experience. Speaking of which, you trained with Zuck, right? Zuck, yeah, that was fun. Like Zuck to me is not like a human being, so I can say whatever I want about him. He's not a reptile. And then you meet him, he's a fucking,

Starting point is 02:06:40 he is a human being. He's got a wife and some kids. Bro, I love his setup. Again, I love who he is a human being. He's got a wife and some kids. Bro, I love his setup. Again, I love who he is as a person. And when I went to spar him, I let him know. I was like, okay, because he invited us to his house. And what a privilege. This is the house with the bunker?

Starting point is 02:06:57 No, not the white one. We're at Tahoe, and again, he's got a great setup. I love his setup. It's similar to what I have in mind for myself But yeah, and then when went to the gym to train and it was time to spar. I was like right too close pop Cool. Okay, you're too close pop and then he was he was learning he was learning on the fly And then he throw a leg kick and again hard leg kick, but I can take it and then we'll just go in at it But I didn't try to hurt him

Starting point is 02:07:23 I'll just lend him know like yeah if you really wanna be about this, you have to be about this. And I respect the guy, he's game, bro. He is game. Like he, his technique's a lot better now. He had ACL surgery, I think, so he's getting better. But he's just passionate about the game. This is, you wouldn't expect from a guy like that

Starting point is 02:07:39 who's accomplished. Like this is the guy that fucking owns Facebook and Instagram. And you know, so for me, just to hang out with him and, again, humanize him, at the end I was like, when I was in there, man, you're a lot cooler than I expected, and I fucking, like, I appreciate it just hanging out with him.

Starting point is 02:07:54 I feel like his rebrand has gone really well. Insane. Yeah. Like, what a way. There was an idea of him, and now that idea has changed completely. But that's because it was through either the movie and people just, their own perception, till he decided to start being more active on social media

Starting point is 02:08:08 and let people know who he is. People only know what you share. And if you share a certain thing that people tend to judge, like there is a little reflection on that where you go, oh, wait a minute, maybe I'm partially responsible for this. But now most people don't think that, unless collectively it happens, as individuals they don't, then they follow the crowd

Starting point is 02:08:24 and like, oh, I guess he's cool now. I'm gonna jump on the trend. Yes. So yeah, but he's a cool dude. I always have respect for that guy. You ever met him? I've never met him. Now you and him will get along.

Starting point is 02:08:33 He's like, at first when you meet him, he's a little awkward. Not standoffish, just awkward. But then once you get to know him, he's cool. Then he's just a regular dude. You think some of it is getting humbled through like fighting essentially? I would imagine that.

Starting point is 02:08:48 I don't know, maybe training would be. Training, cause definitely every day you get humbled. Every day. There's no fake humility in fighting. It's not this like, oh, I wanna act like I'm not. You get your ass kicked, you know you suck, and you get better and then you do it to someone else and then you suck again.

Starting point is 02:09:01 So yeah, I think so. I think definitely fighting would have helped him cause, and again, for someone to actually wanna do that, crazy, and I respect that. Someone who actually wants to get in there professionally, even if it's against Elon or whoever else, but he still will fight. I don't think Elon would fight him, but I think he will still definitely fight

Starting point is 02:09:19 when he wants to be his better. I think it's a good exercise though for powerful people because when you're as powerful as he is, right? And we're not talking about just like regular power. Like every country, if he wants to call up a prime minister, he can. Boom, easy. Because think about the influence

Starting point is 02:09:34 that Facebook has in that country. Worldwide, yeah. I mean, I imagine like a part of Elon buying Twitter is his ability to access every single leader in the world. Hey, I own this platform, they're really. That's what Cuban said, right? Yeah, was that it? Was that it?

Starting point is 02:09:49 Okay, yeah, so it was like, I didn't know if it was an off-camera thing or? No, he's got it on camera. Okay, so, okay, so, but the, so Mark Cuban was on and he was saying that, like, what an influence you have on the world. So Zuckerberg has it. And once you have that kind of power,

Starting point is 02:10:03 people are, they might not be real with you. Yeah. And you're not a real person to them. And things get intoxicated by them. Of course, so like once you start doing something that is humbling, it could be a sport, it could be playing basketball and just getting fucking dunked on,

Starting point is 02:10:15 but fighting is probably the ultimate humbling because you have to realize in that moment while you're being choked out, this person is choosing to not kill me. Yeah, all the money in the world can't save you from death. Nothing can stop that. And maybe he's, I mean he's clearly a smart guy, but maybe he's smart enough to realize is choosing to not kill me. Yeah. All the money in the world can't save you from death right now. Nothing can stop that. And maybe he's clearly a smart guy, but maybe he's smart enough to realize that his psyche

Starting point is 02:10:29 needs that. Yeah. His psyche needs to be reminded. You're just a dude. I think men are starting to understand it's not just about his brain and bronze and you can be the richest, this and that, but then we talk about that power dynamic. That's why all these fucking Wall Street guys go pay hookers to like lash them and shit. Or they charge them or whatever.

Starting point is 02:10:46 There's this thing called a white collar boxing in New York where they all, there would be these like Wall Street dudes. We have that in New Zealand. Yeah, like all these guys, not Wall Street, but like businessmen, they do the charity boxing thing. So they train for maybe eight, nine weeks and then enter a boxing fight. And then they do the smokers.

Starting point is 02:11:02 And we call them smokers here. Like it's like a non-sanctioned antifight, but I think a part of it is like, hey, I need one to get out the energy, but also there's like a nice humbling. They need it. You need it to like learn and- Fight club.

Starting point is 02:11:14 Yeah, fight club, yeah. 100%. No, it's good. It is- Bring that back. Did Zuck say he actually wants to compete? Yeah. Like professionally?

Starting point is 02:11:24 Even without the... Because the Elon fight was like the thing that made it really popular between them two boys. He said after that... Not professionally, but like to enter a tournament and test your skills. Like a smoker, but a little fight so that's equally... Because he did the Jiu Jitsu comp. And again, shout out to him, he did it under a different name till he walked on the mat.

Starting point is 02:11:40 And then people were like, oh shit, and that was smart. So that way, if people don't know I'm fighting Zuck, so then he did it under a different name, put up on the mat, and those who, oh shit, and that was smart. So that way, if people don't know, I'm fighting Zuck. So then he did it under a different name, put up on the mat and those who saw it saw it and he did well, he won the fight. So yeah, I think he will at that level, not like again, professionally, just someone who can hang with him.

Starting point is 02:11:56 It's very easy to, when you get successful, to stop doing hard things. You have to do hard things. I always say this to Joe, but it's like doing, he's addicted to making himself uncomfortable. And it's why he's so great, is he's not afraid to constantly make himself uncomfortable.

Starting point is 02:12:13 And once you get money, it's very easy to be comfortable. And you see like the kids of wealthy people, oftentimes they shy away from, yeah. But like they shy away from discomfort because they don't ever have to be discomfort. They never have to be. Think of the level of discomfort you had to go through to get where you are.

Starting point is 02:12:27 You had to go live in China. Fuck Chinese women. Oh, no, that was uncomfortable. That was really good. They're good at that. They're good at that. There's a billion of them. No, no, no, no.

Starting point is 02:12:37 But the amount of fucked up shit you had to go through, right? And it's like, if you just stop making yourself uncomfortable, what would happen up here? Something, there's gonna be a change. I've been there. You know, there's ways I felt when I'm like, I could feel it, like, you know, like, okay, I gotta find a way to just,

Starting point is 02:12:53 that's why I even said. You get antsy. The last, bro, every time I'm about to, every night before I hop into the cold pool, my brain would always try and stop me. So I'd override that by just like, nope, I'm the master of my own body. And I just boom, straight away dive in there, feel the thing, be in there for two minutes,

Starting point is 02:13:09 go in the spa, then again. But the first one, it's always just that your brain's like, no, no. And you're just like walking through and I just boom, dive in. So again, you do that reps, you kind of calcify your mind. You make yourself the master of your own destiny and it transfers into other bits of your life

Starting point is 02:13:25 where you just, I have to go. So this camp, I'm gonna find other ways to make myself uncomfortable. Might start going yoga, because I don't really have a camp yet, so I'm just, I have some free time, so I'll maybe do something different. Like yoga is nice.

Starting point is 02:13:38 What else? I can't stretch like, you know, these Lululemon chicks. You know, so I wanna get to that level. Yeah. Yeah. You wanna be able to stretch like them. chicks. Yeah. You know, so I want to get to that level. Yeah. Yeah. You want to be able to stretch like them. Yeah. Get some fucking. I feel like you're flexible.

Starting point is 02:13:50 You could do all the kicking and everything. I'm flexible, but again, I'm 35. It's different, bro. Yeah. So I'm not the same. Sometimes if I am not striking as often as I should be, takes me about a week and a half maybe to get my back. Oh, really? Yeah. But when I was younger, bro, I'd be out all night.

Starting point is 02:14:12 Get out of bed, fuck somebody. Not even sleep, go to sparring and yeah, but I can't do that anymore because I'm older and I'm smarter now. Yeah. So I'm not as wild as I used to be, but still, time and place. Yes, there's a time and place. Guys, anything's a Guys anything else for the one the only the last style vendor

Starting point is 02:14:29 I don't know if you can talk about this but the UFC recently Settled the class-action lawsuit with like a bunch of fighters. Yeah does are all the fighters included in that class action I think it's from a certain period So I don't really know too much about it, but I think it's from a certain period. So I don't really know too much about it, but I think it's from a certain period. And I don't even know if it's still going on. I think maybe. The judge rejected it.

Starting point is 02:14:50 He rejected it. So it's gonna, yeah, is they gonna do a mistrial, I think? No, they're gonna do an actual trial on some of the settlements. I see. Okay, so the judge did reject it. But again, it doesn't include me. Includes some fighters from a certain time period.

Starting point is 02:15:02 So yeah, that'll be interesting. We'll see what happens. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. At Desjardins, we speak business. We speak equipment modernization. We're fluent in data digitization and expansion into foreign markets.

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Starting point is 02:15:45 Plus, get a one-time gift of five gigs of Rome Beyond Data on Condition Supply, details at freedommobile.ca. Anything else? That's a good answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Media training, yo. You're media training, bro. That's the sound of the film.

Starting point is 02:15:58 Oh, we're talking about the film, bro. Yeah, I mean, you saw the film. This is so crazy. We saw it over a year ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, so I'll say this. It was just sometimes some people can I mean, you saw the film. This is so crazy. We saw it over a year ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, so I'll say this.

Starting point is 02:16:06 It was just sometimes some people can't see the forest for the trees. And I've always said, I'm not local, I'm global. And at least now the movie can globally be seen. And I'm happy about that because you've seen it. You saw what it, it wasn't really a fight documentary. It was a fight documentary, but it was more about say, me dealing with this lifestyle, the spotlight.

Starting point is 02:16:29 Yeah. And for me, the best picture I saw was a lady on a plane knitting, an old lady on a plane knitting watching it. And someone sent me that and I thought that was cool. So that way it shows that it's not just a film about a fighter, it's a film. I mean, there's a few storylines,

Starting point is 02:16:44 but like what a magical one that like when they're making it, they didn't know that you're gonna beat Pereta the second time. Yeah. No, they would begin, they hurried it up because again, sometimes some people. But that is included. That is included.

Starting point is 02:16:58 Yeah, at the end, but they rushed that bit because I think they stopped filming before the PereraNew York fight. So then the film was then imposed while that was happening. So they kind of put that bit at the end. But again, the story's still being written. But right now, this film... It's about you and your fight with your own life and how you're coping with these things.

Starting point is 02:17:20 I think that is... But there'll be another thing I think about that saga with you and Alex. And I think that that would but there'll be another thing, I think, about that saga with you and Alex. Yeah. And I think that that would be... 30 for 30. Yeah, I think you gotta get Bill Simmons or something like that to do it. He was the guy who started the 30 for 30,

Starting point is 02:17:33 so if I'm not mistaken, right? Yeah, it's like, I think it's gotta be that caliber. But this is great, because this is, if you're a real fan of you, you get to explore an emotional side of you that you'll share on pods and that kind of stuff but like you're like crying in it you're like really talking about what makes you insecure what makes you uncomfortable this is the most exposed I've ever felt yeah on TV so even the first time I got on a plane and I realized oh shit my

Starting point is 02:18:01 films on the plane yeah I I shut down So I got into my seat, there was a whole family and I just like, I was really awkward. And in my head, I just assumed like people would be watching it and then, or maybe seeing it and then like, and I just felt so insecure about it. I'm fine now, but that was the first time and I might've had an edible or something so it made me more sensitive.

Starting point is 02:18:23 But then I was just very like, oh shit, I didn't wanna be seen, so I just shut down for the rest of the flight. But I'm fine with it now, exposing myself, and now it's gonna be seen in North America, I think it's on Prime and Apple TV. And Apple TV. Yeah, globally.

Starting point is 02:18:37 Even YouTube, you can rent it. Oh yeah, but again, it's like, cool, this is me, I'm a human being, I'm a human animal, I have a range of emotions that can be seen in this film from when I was a kid to now. But again, if people are gonna take whatever they wanna take from this, I'd say I practice what I preach

Starting point is 02:18:56 when I talk about people dealing with their mental health because they don't wanna get mentally ill, like physically. And I actually show them how to do it. Because most people who don't, they think, oh, I'm not crazy, I'm gonna go see some therapist or whatever, but then I'm showing you, it's simple. Last time I went, I'll talk to Janet, would have been a month ago.

Starting point is 02:19:14 Before that, I didn't realize when she told me, Izzy, it's been three years. And I was like, really? Wow. Yeah. Yeah, fuck. So I was like, holy shit. And I just thought maybe like a year. And she's like, no, Izzy, it's been three years.

Starting point is 02:19:23 I was like, are you serious? She's like, yeah a year. And she's like, no, Izzy, it's been three years. I was like, are you serious? So yeah, but then life, the tools I got from her, right, helped me deal with a lot of things. And I just, cool. But then there's the residuals you don't know about that just pile up. And then you just, I'll deal with that later, but you don't know you're doing that.

Starting point is 02:19:38 And then got piled up to a point that after that incident with the fucking dickhead, I was just like, nah, fuck this. So I kind of shut down. And then I like, yo, Janet, can we talk? It got some stuff off, I didn't want to bombard her. So when I get back home now, I'll talk to her about some new stuff and be like, right, I got this to deal with now.

Starting point is 02:19:56 I mean, pile up homework. So in that movie, when I show people how to do it, I practice it as well. And like, yeah, I fall off. Like I said, it's been three years. Every life change requires a reset. Yeah. Every single one.

Starting point is 02:20:11 Like having a kid. Having a kid and like it throws, you think you have it all figured out and then you have a kid and you are back to zero. Square one. And you have to re-figure it all out. And that, I mean, that's the important of having like a partner that's down to figure it out with you.

Starting point is 02:20:24 Because that shit is, that's why you gotta choose, you gotta choose that partner wisely. And, but I imagine in your life, every trying to become champion, becoming champion, like losing the belt, gaining the belt, like all these things, what is my new identity without the belt? Now I got it again.

Starting point is 02:20:42 Oh my God, everybody loves me now that I have the belt again. Well got it again. Oh my god, everybody loves me now that I have the belt again. Maybe they never stopped loving me. Maybe they just like all these things, if you just ignore and put to the side, you're going to deal with them through stress. And I thought that's what was cool about the film is you trying to fucking figure it out. Yeah, I still am constantly. Like even now in this new level, you know, there's even in my personal life, I try to keep it as private as I can, but then in this film,

Starting point is 02:21:08 there was one point the director was like, we need a love interest, I was like, hell no. I knew straight away, I was just like, because I knew at the time, I was like, this ain't it, this ain't the one, but. There was sort of a love interest. Yeah, but then she tried, I was like, nah, this ain't the one. Instinctively.

Starting point is 02:21:26 There was an interest. Yeah, well, it wasn't for me anyway. Not the right casting, the casting wasn't right. But look, I do get like Fomo, you know, you just had a kid, you did, he just got engaged. But thing is, I'm grateful for is. You got engaged? Yeah, David just got engaged.

Starting point is 02:21:43 And Tahiti, Get on that. Yeah. What's his name? No, but she fucking changed him, bro. So he lives, they kicked me out of my house. Yeah. He did some gruff as well. Watch this, the house that, my first house I ever bought,

Starting point is 02:22:03 he lives in it, they kicked me out, right? And then, now every time I go there, it's always clean. And I'm like, why the fuck was in this place spotless when we lived together? But again, that's cause- They bring out the best in you, these women, bro. She did. You get a good one, they bring out the best in you, man.

Starting point is 02:22:15 She did, and I'm proud of him for that, cause of the growth he's had, and I see that. And then I was kind of getting to this point where I was just like, man, you know, I'm fine. Again, I'm a man, shout out Dick Pride. But still, you know, it's like, oh, it'll happen, it'll happen, but then when I was golfing with Kelly early this year, he didn't tell me, like,

Starting point is 02:22:33 yeah, he's about to have a second one. I think it's public, not public news, but he told a story on Instagram or something. So he's had a second kid at 52. Who, Slater? Yeah. A Latin go. Yeah, the go, yeah, my man, Kelly Slater, yeah.

Starting point is 02:22:45 That might've been the coolest thing about the Spheres. I got to like- Oh, he met him, yeah, he was there. That was awesome. He's the man, such a cool dude. Doesn't know a little 52 at all, or 53 now maybe. But just had a second kid. He's been about to hell forever though.

Starting point is 02:22:56 He's been locked in. And the ocean, the ocean. But go on, you were saying. Yeah, but yeah, he talked to me about that. And kinda, him and one thing Bill Burr said years ago, just kinda let me know, like, it's fine. There's no rush, because again, he talked to me about that and kind of him. And one thing Bill Burr said years ago, just kind of let me know, like, it's fine. There's no rush. Cause again, if you start rushing,

Starting point is 02:23:09 cause you know, a lot of these girls, they do that. They're trying to like, oh, it's like 35, but I need someone and they find the wrong guy, settle down, have a kid with the wrong guy. And now you got to deal with that guy for the rest of your life. Yeah. That ain't me.

Starting point is 02:23:19 I'm not trying to be that person. So yeah, I'm just going to chill and probably one day share this part of my life. But at the moment, I like peace. I like, and this is where I'm at with peace is just me, myself and I, and then doing all this to better myself will attract not just that, but the best thing. Because already it's attracting the best deals and positions for me. Like, look, we've got Brokeboy, we've got his company that's doing well, and all these other things that are happening

Starting point is 02:23:48 I can't really talk about right now, but it's cause I'm just focused on me and being the best me. So yeah, I feel like I'm in a good place, but again, still in the race. Yeah, I'm still in the race. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too.

Starting point is 02:24:01 Even when I was in the last, I said this, I tried to get on the riot for the last two years, they still trying to process me and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna get on Hinge just to see what's up. But then Hinge is not what I thought it was. Nah, wait, what was it? Hinge, nah, it's just like the whole fucking questionnaire you have to fix. Riot didn't accept you?

Starting point is 02:24:15 That's some racist shit. You're kicking on Riot? That's some racist shit. That makes me feel, wait, we'll figure out that Riot. Yeah, no, I don't care. No, I don't care. Riot was more like, I'm just like, I don't know, we never know. He's right, I'm keeping you off. Let's see what's happening. But then it wasn't, I was like, still. But then Hinge, Ryan. No, I don't care. Ryan was more like, I'm just like, let's see what's happening.

Starting point is 02:24:25 But then it wasn't. I was like, still. But then Heng John's like, they're all looking for something different. We're going to make some calls. Yeah. We're going to make, you're going to do some damage on Ryan. That's what I'm trying to do, man.

Starting point is 02:24:34 That's what I'm saying. I was trying, but... You could walk outside for five minutes, you'll be fine. Yeah. I'd rather, look, I'd rather, if I'm going to get rejected, I'd rather happen the old-fashioned way, real life, face to face You know what I mean? Rather than like swiping swiping swiping. Why do you need a dating it? I don't but I try just for the laws

Starting point is 02:24:55 Let's just see the girls in Auckland While we're out here we shoot They got too much sheep in them I'm Vala! Vala beaming there. Vala! Everybody say, why we out here, we shoot. What happened? Not it. Wait, why, why? What's the deal? They got too much sheep in them? Yeah. That's not, look, there's some, there's some, there's some really nice girls out there,

Starting point is 02:25:13 but if you talk about per capita, like in New York, in LA, It's crazy. We're spoiled, we're spoiled, bro. Bro, constantly, we're on the streets, just like me and Matt, it was like, what the fuck? Not even shy about it anymore. That's why in the airports, I just put shades on, constantly. We're in the streets just like me and Matt. It was like, what the fuck? I'm not even shy about it anymore. That's why in the airports I just put shades on so I can perv in peace.

Starting point is 02:25:28 You're a lot of luck. You're a lot of luck. They don't know who you look. You're a lot of luck. They came outside. Yeah, I'm outside. Why you looking at me too? You know what I mean?

Starting point is 02:25:36 It's the same rules. You know this, I'm looking at you. I'm looking at me, looking at you, looking at me. Exactly. I like those. They're fun. And you get some good interactions, but yeah, you'm looking at you. Yeah, I'm looking at you looking at me. Exactly. I like those, they're fun.

Starting point is 02:25:46 And you get some good interactions, but yeah, you get some weird ones. I had a stalker. No. Yeah. That's my bad. Yeah. All the women I found, but then. What happened, what happened?

Starting point is 02:25:57 What did she look like first? So I had to, this is just for, I sent this to my lawyer cause I was like, okay, I need to get this on film just so he knows. And then he's like, right, you need to send her a restraining order. So I got her on the cam, on the camera, because she somehow found the ding dong.

Starting point is 02:26:15 And when I asked her how, she goes, honestly, I don't know. Whoa, that's wild. Hold on one second. That's not a stalker, bro. That's just- She found the ding dong? I mean, the number to get to my apartment. So yeah. Nah, you gotta let her in, bro.

Starting point is 02:26:32 She needs help. Let me tell you, she needs help, for real. She needs help. She needs help. She needs help. But when she turned around, I was like- No, no, it's crazy. I think she's Colombian too.

Starting point is 02:26:43 So you know they're wild and- Nah, that was that. That was the road rage guy's sister. Nah, no, it's crazy. I think she's Colombian too. So, you know, they, they're wild and... That was the road rage guy's sister. Nah, but so for real. You can see from the front. Yeah. That's fire. But, but, so one time she ended up... I said, how can you see from the front? So one time... Nah, he better than me, bro. I'm single and I got girls who's like, Dean Gordon.

Starting point is 02:27:00 Again, I'm glad I have a little bit of, you know... Discipline. Discipline. A little bit. Sometimes I don't. But this is what I'm glad I did, because if I did,, I'm glad I have a little bit of, you know, discipline, a little bit. Sometimes I don't. But this one I'm glad I did, because if I did, then I'm pretty sure I'd have problems right now. You got to jerk off to the security camp. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:27:14 You're still in term, then you let her in. Why do you think he took that video? For the lawyer. Yeah, yeah. That's what I call my dick, too. Me, too. Lay down the law. Yeah, I'm sure he did.

Starting point is 02:27:27 The gavel. No, but again, shit like that doesn't happen all the time, but I'm sure, look, I'm sure people have stalkers that are really good that they don't know about for years. They trap them up, all these NBA players. Bro, the amount of older women that get with these young players. Oh, that's all game. That's sad. No, but again, look, if you see someone, you're like, cool.

Starting point is 02:27:48 That's legal. They just know the game. They know, yeah. They're hot. They're 42. They're like, cool, I'm going to get you. You're 21. Bang.

Starting point is 02:27:57 And also, the kids, I think this is a little bit different now, but if you're a superstar athlete, you're famous at like probably around 14. Oh, really? In America, right? Because they start recruiting you with all these things, like you're getting offers. And like, they don't really develop the skills

Starting point is 02:28:14 to talk to girls because they're just a superstar athlete and they're just practicing. No game, no game. So they're like kind of awkward and uncomfortable. And then there's older girl that knows how to make them comfy, they got that maternal instinct. They're also not really tripping when they're going out

Starting point is 02:28:29 there like talking to other girls. They're not trying to lock them down like these young ones are there, yeah go have some fun. And they're like, oh my god, this girl's the coolest girl I've ever. She's letting me do this. Gotcha. And these girls are technically also pedophiles.

Starting point is 02:28:38 Yeah, also. That's a very important thing. The guys are 21, whatever, it's legal. They're groomers. Yeah, groomers. But again, if it was the other way, I mean,. The guys are 21, whatever, it's legal. They're groomers. Yeah, groomers. But again, if it was the other way, I mean, Leo gets away with it, so. Yeah, Leo impregnate him.

Starting point is 02:28:51 Yeah. He knows what he's doing. I wonder if he snips. Catch and release, catch and release. That's the one, catch and release. Would you snip, if you're Leo, or like, if you're somebody, would you just freeze your sperm in a few different places?

Starting point is 02:29:03 You can put it back, right? You can put it back. Yeah? You can put it back. Yeah, yeah. He's got us in it. You got us in it. I'm just too scared. I just, yeah. Nah, don't snap.

Starting point is 02:29:10 Nah, hell no. No, no, no, no, I'm good. Again, look, when I was a Wilder, I never had a baby because I never pull out of a fight, but my pull-out game is- Is elite? Elite. Elite?

Starting point is 02:29:24 Elite. But. Elite. But then now again, I'm smart. I'm smart now. And Auckland again, it's just the cesspool is just, everybody's fucked everybody. That's the other thing, like I imagine like a small city. You know Val. You know.

Starting point is 02:29:35 I don't know. He was only there for a week, but he's just like. This guy is a bad guy. I love him. That's why we, hey. You know what he does? He does this shit. It is so fucking bad.

Starting point is 02:29:47 I love it, though. I love it, though. If there's a dude that will be like, come hang for whatever reason, it don't matter who it is, they might be coming hangin'. And they'll say, yeah, I just started dating this girl. Right? And Vala will do this shit all the time.

Starting point is 02:29:59 They'll be like, oh, where from? He's like, oh, she lives in LA. And he'll be like, oh, what's her name? And then he'll be like, oh, Megan. And he goes, oh, she lives in LA. And he'll be like, oh, what's her name? And then he'll be like, oh yeah, Megan. And he goes, oh, Megan. Oh. He does this every single time. He does this, he goes, oh yeah, Megan.

Starting point is 02:30:15 And then he don't follow up. And the dude just sits there like, what you mean by that? Can this motherfucker dick down my girl? What do you mean by that? What exactly do you mean by that? Oh yeah, Megan. The whole rest of the night just in his head like,

Starting point is 02:30:25 the fuck did Val mean by that? That's an evil guy right there. And Megan, do you know Val? Yeah. That's a cool dude. That's all Val. Isn't that a horrible thing to say? Oh yeah, Megan.

Starting point is 02:30:35 He's just letting them know. Girl, you're an animal. He does this a lot. He does this a lot. We had some innocent fun, did we not? Yeah, we did. It was innocent and fun. Yeah, nice. Vala said, we did, it was innocent. And fun, yeah.

Starting point is 02:30:45 Nice. Vala said you were crazy in bed. Nah. That's not true, sir. Vala said it. When you came back, you said, yeah. He said, you know this? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

Starting point is 02:30:56 Is he crazy? Shady Sharp put up like a shirtless pic, and like, Vala was looking, he's like, yo, look at Shady Sharp. And Shady's just looking Jack. And Vala, and we're all like, damn, my motherfuckers, Jack is like 50 years old, how he still Jack? And Vala goes, yo, look at Shannon Sharp. And Shannon's just looking Jack and Vala. And we're all like, damn, my motherfucker's Jack. He's like, 50 years old.

Starting point is 02:31:06 How he still Jack? And Vala goes, yo, he must be crazy in bed. We're like, what? And was I right? And you was right. You were right. You were right. Vindicated.

Starting point is 02:31:15 Time for show. Yeah. Crazy. Damn. Anyway, listen, Izzy, we love you, bro. We are excited to be on this journey, man, and see what's next for you. And you know we're there to support.

Starting point is 02:31:26 Likewise. Thank you so much, man. And love forever. And love forever. Flaygrain Crew, Gangstil. Mwah, mwah. Love you.

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