Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Tom Brady Jumped Over the Jumpman Ft. Mike Majlak

Episode Date: February 9, 2021

This week Andrew, Akaash, AlexxMedia, Mark and Dov are joined by Mike Majlak, the group discuss Mike's wild and complex past, discuss Schulz' superbowl party, what went well and what didn't with Superbowl commercials and debate the question "Is Brady the all-time GOAT now??", and much, much more. INDULGE!

What's up everybody and welcome to Flager 2 It's your boy Schultz, we got Akash Singh, Alex Media, Mark Gagnon, the truffle pig himself, Dove Mammon And we have a special guest in the building I wouldn't call it special man No, no, you're special bro you're special too much you're special but i don't know how to pronounce your last name so i don't know how to properly introduce you his name has like four vowels in it you get it right it's easy i know how to do vowels your name has no vowels the jay silence matt okay go malak i had no clue i thought

it was majlik also before we start this Okay What do we got What's going on here Oh Miami You was on a real estate Yeah I like it Make a moment out of it

I'm not playing Okay I've seen you for the past week Rocking all the Miami shit I come here today You look like you're dressed To go to Bushwick bro What the fuck

What the fuck happened I gotta keep the old vibes I gotta keep the old vibes What's good Yo I'm stoked to have you on We've been trying to go to Bushwick, bro. What the fuck happened, bro? I got to keep the old vibes, Mike. What's good? Yo, I'm stoked to have you on. We've been trying to get you on for a minute. Every time you come to the East Coast, you duck me, bro.

You go up to Connecticut and you duck me. To Staven. Going home, yeah, the man's from Gunhaven, New Haven. Pistolhaven, New Haven. We were just talking about how do you even- Pistolhaven, New Haven. Hey, at one point, we were the number four Most dangerous city I don't know what happened Connecticut is incredibly ghetto

It's impressive In it's ability to be ghetto And super rich At the same time Same time And the most hated state By Joe Rogan Nah by Joe Rogan

Joe Rogan Why does he hate it I don't know He's just always had a problem With fucking Connecticut But he's a mass guy Yeah Yeah

Cause you guys sit in between You sit on the fence He's like He's like it's just a He's like it's just Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you guys sit in between. You sit on the fence. He's like, it's just a wasted strip of highway between New York and Boston. He's like, it's meaningless. But yo, there's some bad spots there. But I grew up in a very nice town called Milford, Connecticut, one of the nicer beach communities in the state. But it's in between Pistol Wave in New Haven and Bridgeport, Connecticut, where I spent

some time doing crack cocaine. Yeah, we're going to get to all that. Okay? I want to get to all the crack cocaine. I want to get to everything. But more importantly, I want to start here. We had some boys on a podcast who were talking big shit. Okay?

Doesn't surprise me. They were talking big. No, no, no. You know. Remember I was talking about you and what you got to go through on Twitter? Bro. no you know remember i was talking about you and what you got to go through on twitter bro now for new listeners mike on twitter mike is dating uh who used to be a very very very famous pornographic star well she still is when she still does porn no no she's still a very famous pornographic star but she's retired she's retired but it's like um it's almost like herpes it doesn't go away you know know what I'm saying?

She's still number one. Yeah. It was such a perfect analogy. Metaphor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it doesn't, not that she has it, but just the sex and the, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it doesn't go away.

She's been number one. Yeah. You can't take her down. Don't use STDs as metaphors for your porn star girl. For retirement. Exactly. You can't take her down. Everybody's out there trying to fucking Bella Danger her and Riley Reader, but you can't take her down anybody everybody's out there trying to a fucking abella danger her

and riley reader but you can't okay can't hit her bro because she was she was just too pretty she was too yeah yes yes yes yes everybody just likes to watch well no but people harass you right you'll tweet some shit and then they're always responding to it with like this porn scene from lana right and i was like this poor guy what this guy's got to go through etc and i remember i spoke about on the podcast and the boys on the podcast you guys had some opinions on dating a porn star yeah couldn't do it now we had a nice little super pole party yesterday um super pole party is right a super pole party it was a pole party super spreader We had a super spreader event yesterday. By the way, never invite Mike Malek to your Super Bowl party ever again. Malek.

What is it? Malek. Like he may lack certain skills. Now I remember. Perfect. Now I remember. That's perfect. I wish you said that in the beginning.

Okay, so Mike Malek. We invited him, and I think within like 15 minutes, you had invited 20 people. No. There was 20 people. I could not believe. I said, do you want to come over? I said, do you want to come over? I said, do you want to come over? You can tell Logan to come as well,

and Lana can come, and then you're like, listen, Jake wants to come as well, and he has a crew, and I was like, just give me a number, and you were like, I think it's going to be 20. I think it's going to be 20. You invited 20 people to the Super Bowl party.

They got there before any of you guys got there. So it looked like I was watching the Super Bowl with my fiance alone and you guys brought 20 14 year olds. You roll with 20 14 year olds. All Jake Paul. In thongs.

You've got a fucking those weren't mine. My girl's cooking salmon. You got girls coming in in thongs. The funniest visual is a bunch of fucking 30 year olds being like

hey you guys want some salmon? And then like teenage What am I going to offer them? Corona? They're 14 years old. You want some salmon? You want some prosciutto? That's all I can offer them.

We were just so clearly washed in in our 30s when I was like, guys, it's really loud. I'm trying to watch the game. Literally, my girl's like, why don't you offer them a drink or something like that? Milk? Do you want to offer them some milk? Baby formula?

Literally, how old were these girls? They not my bro first of all as you guys know girlfriend yeah not allowed to talk to any other girls yeah she monitors my calls with my mother i'm not she's like you're over your fucking limit i like put the fucking phone down i like this so if you think i brought any of those fucking chicks yesterday you're mistaken that was jake paul's entourage bro he's always got an entourage. He's got security. Me and Logan roll lean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just normal guys. Jake's got the six cars.

Jake had six watches on yesterday. You may not have noticed. Six fucking watches, bro. So, yeah, he rolls with who he wants to. Yeah, yeah. We weren't looking at the watches. But were they to time the girls' birthdays? They're 18.

I got this one turning 18 in about six days. Can't wait, man. Can't wait. As soon as the clock strikes 12, it's on, dude. So y'all pulled up and then dipped on us at halftime, which I think was the right move.

I think everybody was happy about it. I said that. I said it to your wife. I think that you guys assumed this was going to be like a rager pool party. Was that a little bit of the assumption?

No, I knew what kind of party was gonna girls pulled up in thongs listen i knew when you told me you're like yo with homework these girls were doing homework why was the girl doing homework she was literally asking so what's the capital of iowa i was like you don't know your capitals yet how old are these they're getting younger, Mark. Bro, no, you told me you were like, yo, it's just me,

the wife, and Wasabi. And the homies. I said the homies were going to come. And the homies. But it did seem like I invited them after you guys came.

Like, I was like, well, I can't have a party with just all of them. I was wondering why he texted. He's like, you guys are the only ones not here. No, I heard him.

I looked over. I seen him, and he goes, yo. I have friends too, guys. I've seen him on the phone because I went to check my crypto because I don't, you know, I quit everything else. Yeah.

Just straight crypto now, right? So I went to check. I quit crack, heroin. I just shoot up straight up Ethereum now, bro. Right into my veins. Ethereum on the run, bro. Right into my veins. I love this dude, man.

But I went to check on my Coinbase real quick and I looked over and he's like, yo, what's up, shorty? He's like yo what's up shorty he's like I got Jake Paul in the house right now if you're trying to come through he was flexing

like Jake Paul was at his crib and shit bro and she was like I'm just getting my retainer fixed but I'll be over immediately afterwards

now I don't know how the fuck that happened bro just hella people showed up he's got security and shit he like he rolls keep him away from them girls probably oh maybe for the girls so they stop him How the fuck did that happen, bro? Just hella people showed up. He's got security and shit.

Keep him away from them girls, probably. Oh, maybe for the girls. So they stop him. They're like, yo, it ain't midnight yet, Jake. Just hold up. Hold up, brother. Bro is so funny. No, but you're a great host, bro.

I want to make sure people are comfortable, but we can't give the girls anything. And I'm like, these girls just look young. And you know when you get old. I'm 37 years old. Everybody just looks fucking young to me now probably 22 bro they probably not probably they they're all 21 not even 18 plus they're all 21 i'm assuming they're over 21 well then also don't fucking ask me i got one chick i don't talk to anybody else i mean if i get me too it's by my own girlfriend listen all right lana went to sleep she passed out She passed out Watching the Super Bowl

Yeah that was what I did She passed out Watching the Super Bowl And I saw you were Talking to those girls bro Bro I saw Even joke about this Literally he's on his phone

He's like I'll order you Whatever jellies you want Jelly sandals And a new school thing You're about to give him All new jelly sandals You laugh right now i'm gonna go back to the hotel and she's gonna be sitting there with a fucking textbook to bash my brains in

no no you can't even make that joke bro i'm fucking around obviously i'm fucking around we gotta talk about no no this is important i thought that they are like you know these girls are probably 22 years old they're probably over 21 years old. Definitely, that's what it is. That's 100%. Right. And then I saw Logan's boxing coach handing out snacks. He had a tray. Now people think you're talking about drugs. They're the elementary school size bags.

They're the elementary school. They're the little fun size in the back of the school bus. Here's your little barbecue-laced chips size in the back of the school bus. Here's your little barbecue laced chips and the girls' eyes lit up. Trick or treat. Super Bowl.

Trick or treat. Ding dong. Ding dong. It was like, and it was like the right ones. It was like Funyuns, all the ones you would

gain into little games. I literally saw two of the girls go like, oh my God, do you think you could trade me for Cheez-Its? She's just going crazy for Cheez-Its. The retain just going crazy for Cheez-Its.

The retainer again? Bro, the retainer. Hey, can I have some of those funyuns? Do you mind if I have just a few funyuns? Is that cool? Dude, that Mila Kunis commercial came on. She's like, that's so relatable to me. I just fall over the house still.

So we had a nice little time. Where'd you guys go afterwards? So we went to some like- After you guys ditched our pool party. Bro, listen, because here's the deal um party is not the term for that we were just watching the super bowl that's what we are we're 37 yeah yeah i can't have young slots walking around my living room yeah you did you had exactly what you can't have then andrew you fucked up all right my girl's fucking sad man bro she i felt the worst

for her i kept looking over and she was just she kept like looking at me like you fucking motherfucker you did this i will say every time wasabi did something wrong she looked at me like you can't even handle a fucking dog like what's wrong everything was my fault i just met her for the first time she's like you bring these goons and these fucking teeny boppers into my house. You lose it, bro. It was absolutely great. And you know, she said that Lana was the only girl there that made an effort with her. Dude, listen.

She was the only girl that came up. She made an effort. She was really sweet. She asked if I needed any help or anything like that. And I thought that was very cool. So shout out to Lana. Yo, that is very cool. And it's fucked up with them.

They didn't say shit I was nervous what do you mean they were talking big shit on the pod right and then all of a sudden in person

let me make this very clear that's how it always goes and I'm not saying these guys they were all cool last night but bro all those dudes like how could you date a girl

that gets gum on her face like that bro I see her in person and they're just like hey the cum is in their pants bro yeah but listen listen listen listen mark was walking out tucked six to midnight yo listen i mean i want to i want to address it because i do remember the video. I love you, bro. She's seen the video. I think you're great. I just want to let you know I love you.

I think you're great, man. She's seen the video of the podcast. What were we saying? I don't even remember what I said. It was just convenient. Wow. What did I say? What did I say?

It was like a podcast. I could never date a porn star? What a surprise. No problem with that. It was basically just talking about this scenario where this dude you know some dude or multiple dudes have come on the wrong but somebody like post that picture on every tweet and you're like yo he can tweet about saving world we didn't even say multiple you suggested it that's like you're bragging only one dude came with your girl? I can do far better.

I can do far better. But yo, but listen, it's not, one, it's not for everybody. You know what I'm saying? And also to clear the air on everything, the biggest thing, the biggest thing is there's a difference between someone who's actively doing it right now,

that whole scenario, like your girl comes home from work and you ask her, yo, how was work today? And she was like amazing and the guy crying, you know the know the meme you probably all seen the meme before yeah yeah you've seen it they've sent it to you bro i haven't seen it i'm like he's acting like everybody's seen it i don't know you never saw that me before like this guy they harass this

guy this is bullying it's bullying it is but like yo it's bullying bro as you said yeah yeah long story short yeah sweet. Sweetest girl. Yes. Sweetest fucking girl. Absolute sweetheart. Everybody else around me, they're like, yo,

I'm having trouble with my girl. She cheated on me with Tyga. She did like, everybody telling me these stories, you know,

the classic LA thoughts. That's more embarrassing than being a porn star is cheating with Tyga. Yeah. This dude's fucked up. This dude's fucked up. Your girl went,

this dude's fucked up. Everybody? Really?'s fucked everybody everybody really he's fucked everybody but listen let me supposedly he's got a dick the size of a cesna i'm not even kidding a double-edged cesna bro if you're a girl and you're watching the show first of all what the fuck are you doing and second of all go fuck tiger right now we're bringing in the ladies you have a great studio you have a great studio thank you thank you but yeah but yo it's it's so she's out the game absolute sweetheart and the most loyal girl in the entire like bro there's just never a single second we've had our breakups we've had our moments where i was like okay now that she's broken up with me she's gonna answer one of those dms i could lay i could name 10 fucking a-listers right now that are in her DMs right now. Really?

I'm not going to do it. Friends of yours ever? No. Try to shoot that shot? No, no. Everybody's very respectful. Everybody in my immediate circle is very respectful. Well, they better be.

Because she's a sweetheart. When you meet her, bro, you met her last night. What was your take on her? I mean, she's just sweet. But that's what I assumed that she would be. Really? Yeah. I've probably seen the things she's capable of

no no I think she bullies you she does she'll fire right back but my thing is it's not about Lana I think it's just really brave I don't know if it's bravery it's very secure yeah that's what it is

but I wonder if this is because of I wonder if it's because of the addiction yes I wonder if you is because of the addiction. Yes. I wonder if you get to a point where you don't care what people think of you. Andrew. You had much worse things in your mouth than her. Like you're forced to. A hundred percent.

You know what I mean? Bro, if you came out to me back in the day and were like, yo, this is the only pipe I could find. I found it in the gutter of Bridgeport outside the bodega. It's got Enfamil baby powder all over it from the last person that pawned something for fucking. I'm like, dude, I don't give a shit. I'm fucking hating that fucking thing. I was a crackhead.

I was sharing needles with bro. Like, so yes. So yes, you have a, you have a great point. You have a great point. But like also. Is there a freedom to that? I'm actually, I'm really curious about that. Like once you come to the point where you're like,

I don't care what people think about me. Like I accept me. Go suck a dick. Tell me something that's going to upset me right now. How the fuck could I? Bro, I should be dead 50 times over, bro. Really? I've had more visits to ICU.

I've scars all over my body. I've been cut open. Every surgery, I had my spleen removed. I broke my femur. I fractured my skull. Well, here's the other reason. Are you a little puffy? No, I will.

That's why. Here's the other reason I'm not upset about anything. I'm puffy too, dude. I am a fat, balding, middle-aged man with mental health problems, dude. Okay? So I'm going to try comedy. I feel like it's honestly good. We've been waiting, right?

Just switch your name dude Okay tuck it in Oh wow Yeah yeah okay good Yeah yeah yeah that was it Whoa This one right here And is that the ankle that you got

It's got fucking plates screws Everything You know the biggest thing I got was my dick. What happened? It's just huge. It's just massive. There's no issue with it. Reduction surgery.

Yeah, dick reduction surgery. There's no issue with it. I just wanted to throw that out there just in case Tiger's watching. Let him know he's got some competition out there. Now, when you, have you ever done like AA, NAA stuff? I did about six months of na after i got out of rehab in 2010 but then i got addicted to work and that never left and now that's all so you transfer the addiction it was good yeah okay that's perfect some people do it for like

you know the gym or whatever obviously you know i wish i was that guy dude i wish i was that guy, dude. I wish I was that guy, bro. No, all you do is eat desserts. Your Instagram is amazing. Yeah, it's a mukbang. Yeah, it's just always on 24-7. Yeah, which is another way to pronounce your last fucking name that I'll never learn. But seriously, it's just such a crazy thing to like, I don't know, in the weirdest way is if you can survive that, you have a superpower. Absolutely.

I mean, dude, because like I said, like, what are you going to do? Yeah. What are you going to say have a superpower absolutely you're i mean dude because like i said like what are you going to do yeah what are you is there anything you're insecure about is there anything of course of course i have bro i have an anxiety condition i get still get nervous i still you know and and don't let me come on here and say that the the situation and lana's past like that i'm all 100 cool with it like oh yeah yeah i was completely cool with all those guys that's great like i'm i don't think anybody'm all 100% cool with it. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, I was completely cool with all those guys. That's great. I don't think anybody will ever be completely cool with it,

but I accept the fact that people have pasts, bro. I have a horrible, horrible past where I did terrible things. I broke my mother's heart. I fucked myself up. You got to accept your past. My past? And your past is far worse. It's dramatically worse.

She's embarrassed about his past more than he is well maybe they both just don't judge one another on the past and then that's your kind of like mutual connection it is and that's what a lot of people that have like any i don't know how but people that have like this like inherent or innate uh interest in our relationship and watch it and say like this is very cool they saved each other it's called super hot chick all right i'll watch mikey the hamburger too nah dude that is cool man i don't know i just always think about that and i guess maybe i always wondered why you haven't tried stand-up or have you tried i have i know i and i want to and i was actually because you

think in bits yeah i do i know i and i want to and i was actually because you think in bits yeah i do i think in vignettes and and so i want to and i want to write it don't ever say that again you know i hate that word it's not great to yet hear me honest with you and hard to fucking spell shit i have a podcast but in terms like the way your brain works like sometimes when we'd be on the pod and you'd be joking around or even when we'd be busting balls they'd kind of it'd be similar to a way a comedian thinks right there's like another layer there's like another layer of uh i don't know misdirection added on to it i'm like i'm wondering if you ever tried stand-up or something i want to have stories that's why i asked about the naa thing because a lot of times you're like speaking in front of people right you have this like you know captive

audience and they're the best audience i've done like a shows and shit like because you can't offend them because they're like i used to suck dicks for drugs yeah like your little sexist joke isn't gonna make me go exactly yeah and they're used to listening so they're like these incredible audiences and um but i was wondering if you ever like were telling these stories and kind of making people laugh that you were like oh shit maybe i should give this i know i should the only thing that's really stopped me is one the youtube money is really fucking good and yeah i don't even have to get on a fucking stage like i can just hang out with the homies and like be at the one hotel and film for five minutes and there's a fucking hundred you know what i'm saying like it's it's

so like but but yeah but i have those people that do both there are there are and when i look at weird make a ton of money okay you know what i mean i don't know but listen when i look at when i look at um when i look at youtube and then i look at all the other things we're talking about today even even logan at the height of youtube and other people we all look at still very much in our hearts look at something like stand-up or uh television the mainstream stuff as a as a level up yeah throw the television out of there but whatever whatever but i'm saying like stand up we i respect it incredibly you should have great admiration a huge skill and so like superheroes're superheroes We really are No we seriously are A lot of respect

Should be thrown in our direction The most Like right now Get on your knees Mike Right fucking now Those times are done bro I could buy my own crack

Now I'm gonna suck dick no more Yo is there ever part of you now That's like shit If I was addicted Now bro I'm dead Because you could actually do it I could do it

You ran out of money before you could kill yourself right now oh dude i would bro how much i'll get the best shit because i would have all the like the people that are like yo i love your show man i got grade a shit i used to have to settle for pistol wave in new haven shit back in the day that was crap bro stepped on so this is good it's good that you made this money in in the time of your life where you got shit a little bit more figured out yeah now the only thing i bought so far has been a car for my mom okay that's it that was the first my first big purchase what did you get her an audi there we go okay there you go and it was like the proudest moment of my fucking life did she forgive you yeah 100 99 99 is is that hard

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Kratom is I don't know what the fuck it is It's like CBD but it's different what do you mean it's a plant it's an herb right hold on hold on sorry i was fucking around okay here i'll do it let me get into it and then uh if i look over at you then i'll have you i'll have it coming all right all right uh uh all right guys we're gonna take a break for a second because i could tell your energy levels are all fucked up you You're a little anxious and shit. I want to fix all that.

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So that's obviously like part of the 12 steps is like being amends to people that you've that you've uh that you've hurt and i in a way i kind of skipped that step 11 steps uh shit uh damn i knew i got through all 12 pretty fast i must have missed one that step is painful you know who didn't forget is your mom. She remembers. 99%. Well, so I read the book, and they're like, yeah, you have to make them know that what you did was wrong, and they're going to do better. And I was like, how about I just buy her a car?

Is that cool? And she was like, yeah. Girls like pretty things. Pretty things, exactly. So I bought her a car, and that was a great moment for me. And that was a great moment for me. But no, I don't think I'll ever be able to make up completely for... But they say that, just for talking to friends of mine who are in the, what is it called? The program.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're like, a lot of it is also for you. It's like allowing you to forgive yourself. Yeah, I don't think I skipped that one, too. Honestly, I'm on step one still, bro. Let's be honest. Guys, I'm here to tell you today I have a problem. Yeah!

Fuck yeah. You keep listing out these steps like, what the fuck do they have now? He's going to start his addiction again when he walks out of his box. Yeah, bro. And I'm in Miami. This is really bad. A whole bar right next to you, not a single bottle open. No, but actually, I've been off the booze, too.

Yeah, you don't drink. Nah. But what's interesting is I bet most people assume when you're out partying that you're drunk. No, so I've been really- Because you're social. Yeah. And a lot of times, people in those gatherings, I don't know. It's so weird.

The assumption is, especially when you meet people, I think on the internet, the assumption or leaving comics, like, Oh, they're going to be funny all the time. And it's like, I'll be funny when I'm talking to my homies. Yeah. I'll be funny when like conversation presents itself, but I'm not just like tap dancing every second. I'll be funny on my terms. Exactly. I dictate when I'm funny. Exactly.

But you are incredibly comfortable, comfortable socially. I picked that up yesterday. I am. That's kind of like my safe spot. Like that's where I'm more comfortable around like groups of people. So that's why I kind of think like if I can fall into the stand-up thing that it would work really well for me. Right. Because I actually, that energy of having that crowd around me that's like really invested in the storyline and the jokes actually fuels me. And once I start seeing the laughs and seeing the people like, yo, reacting to i'm just like let's fucking go and obviously i've seen so much of your shit when and you have the same stuff like once you find the right person in the audience or whatever

it is or you get on a rampage or you just fucking heat up that's that's yeah that's the gasoline for me like it's actually hard it's weird it's harder for me much harder for me to like write jokes without a crowd yeah like i like taking an idea up there and kind of like letting their energy dictate where we go with it so i'm almost like i'm way worse at it like i can be up there and people are oftentimes like how do you think of that in the moment and i'm just like how does somebody think of this not right in the moment right you just sit around and think of clever shit it just seems weird did you have trouble with that uh with that situation when you went to sit and deliver the netflix stuff because you don't you like don't have that crowd they're like when you when you say the jokes for the netflix thing do these guys all laugh no we like we because they've already heard it probably well

yeah help yeah mark mark and i wrote it and there's a couple other fa and robbie slovic and give them and then akash would help us as well so it's like we all knew what was coming sometimes alex we usually would like you know basically go through it once with alex just to make sure there wasn't something too racist he was like a buffer for racism like and he literally usually if there's something he laughed really hard at at the end he'd be like oh yeah you gotta get rid of that like this is good for this setting definitely right uh but uh but yeah so like everybody knows so it's this delayed satisfaction right it's like we all are waiting for it to post on youtube or post on netflix or post on instagram

and then we're just kind of seeing and hoping people like it but the thing is we're so close to the content by the time we release it we're like oh none of this is funny right like there's not a single funny joke in the whole thing because we've watched it and rewritten it and rewritten it and rewritten it for fucking months so like having people i think the first day it came out like mark was so fucking terrified like the first project he had to work on is a netflix show he's 23 years old right and also the most stylish just a person i've ever met My bro Like I roll up last night He's got the rude shorts on Same shorts

Hasn't changed this show I'm like yo This dude is a man Still tucked Still tucked I was talking to him All I have are just clothes That like friends send me

Like this FaZe Clan shit Like I've never I've never bought anything Except for a car for my mom What is this video game shit That you're in What's going on with this What do I do

Are you like Twitch Are you talking about Twitch Yeah like Oh out of nowhere You're like I do video games Bro I you like Twitch? Are you talking about Twitch? Yeah. Like, oh, out of nowhere, you're like, I do video games. Bro, I do. You know, I want you to be like Stephen A. Smith. But for us, you know how people always say they're like, yo, find your love, find your

passion and dive in 100%. Don't tell me it's video games. No, no, no. I don't do that. I've done every heroin. Yeah. That was for me. You dove in.

Stop diving. Yes. Yes. That one I did full board. No distractions. Mom, shut up. I'm doing my heroin. Shut the fuck up, mom. Nobody talks about

that kind of commitment. Oh, it's a huge commitment. Yeah. Nobody sacrifices more than a drug addict. That's true. You want to talk about sacrificing commitment.

No, you give up everything you love. That's fact. That's what always makes me think it's got to be worth it. I mean, I got a best-selling book out of it. So for me, it was for me. But if you don't get that.

What's a spleen? Yeah, fuck a spleen. You can have it. Take it. I don't need it after I'm 18 anyways. It stops producing antibodies. Is that what a spleen does? Yeah, it produces antibodies.

So you're just out here in a COVID world with no antibodies and no ability to produce them. You're a wild boy, bro. I think the herpes antivirals kick in for corona, too. Wait, what is this? That was a joke. I didn't know what to laugh, bro. Holy shit. I was actually like, hold on.

Is that why I never got it? I'm paying attention. He's like, is that why I never got it? Yo, video games, yes. Book, yes. Book number two, yes. Book number never got it? Yo, video games. Yes. Book. Yes. Book number two. Yes.

Book number one, being picked up and made into a movie. Yes. YouTube. Yes. Podcast. Yes. Twitch. Yes.

Like, bro, here's the problem. Like, I'm doing everything. Yeah. And now that is the heroin. You know what I'm saying? That is the drug. And so it's like when Sweet Lana, who deserves the world because she was the rocket fuel lately to the rocket ship, and she's like, yo, can we just

get a lunch or something? I'm like, baby, I'm shooting. I can't do it. Wow, you said no to her for us. Respect, bro. For you guys, she would allow it. You know what I'm saying? You want to know why? Why? Because she sees y'all as like real, like, because of the comedy thing. Real rec and non.

I'm not even playing. It's the salmon. And the salmon. She went to you and she was like, these guys ain't getting into no trouble. Salmon tacos. Fucking dorks. I'm Super Bowl party with salmon tacos.

Oh my God, they got side salads. What a bunch of queers. It was so funny. It was so funny watching Jake with 14 watches on reach into a fucking Cheetos bag fucking a little cheetos bag i walk in with empanadas we're from a local bakery yo we're the goats bro we really are the goats great huh that food was great oh no my girl could whip it down yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're not playing around yo who are these uh syrian migrants that you brought into the studio who are these guys so i was actually uh that's the

caravan bro that's the caravan is that the caravan did you bring them in uh we went out on a yacht yesterday and you just found them we saw a fucking dinghy yo we're supposed to push that shit back to cuba is this elian elian? Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Who are these kids? They're the new guys. Yeah, I got two guys. They're both shooters. They're both shooters.

Yeah, one's video and the other one's a shooter, like a real shooter. Oh, he holds it down. No, I'm just playing. What is he shooting? No, they're both camera guys. So one actually shoots for Logan's subscription club because we got uh subscription club because

we're all we got a subscription club too by the way one of my other other other things i don't know any of these let's talk about it after and then um the other one uh justin is gonna is gonna start shooting with me because it's just just having the camera with you all the time that's how you get like the real gold you know because we turn it on dude like imagine if somebody had a camera last night for your shit at the house last night With Logan and Jake there We were just shooting Got no views He's like the Paul brothers

Just ate what they used to be That's the worst shit For the Paul brothers band They just sit on couches And fucking eat salmon tacos We the goats bro We ain't trying to impress nobody I don't give a fuck bro

I was so much happier Y'all get snacks bro That's the joke He comes out so much happier When they get snacks bro that's the joke because i was so much happy when they left i was like i could hear the commentary yeah oh yeah we wanted to talk about football we all get to sit on the couch exactly nah man you know what it is is like i'll be honest i just like shooting the shit and and talking and there was a little part of me i just want you guys to just come because i was like i just want all of us to hang out and jake

i want him to come too. That's fine. Just hang out and watch the game. But once like- 20 people. Once the shorty started showing up- I was out. You know what it was?

It's just tougher because I didn't want it to become like a social moment. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, we shot a little video outside. That's fine. But like, I just want to do this. That's what I love about a podcast. It's like, it's not interrupted where we're trying to like throw shit on a gram

or whatever like that. Like I just, I enjoy your company. So I just want to pick your brain about shit. You can pick my brain about shit. Just have some. And I was kind of looking forward to that a little bit. And then there's girls walking through the fucking living room with thongs on.

It was so funny. It was so funny. It was terrifying. It was terrifying. What I'm supposed to do? I literally told my girls like, you see these girls are wearing thongs? And then I realized, like, I'm just admitting I'm looking at these girls' thongs. Snitch on yourself, bro.

Do you ever have those moments in life, like, where you're like, yo, how the fuck did I get here? Like, to this moment? Like, you're sitting on the couch. Well, actually, you're sitting in a kitchen chair because your couch is taken yeah by one of the most disgraced youtuber now boxers of all time the number one porn star in the world an ex crack head and a dog named after an asian condiment it's like all on the couch you're like how did i get from brooklyn or wherever the fuck to right here to this fucking shit this duplex in miami bro it's so weird it's like none of this shit even shocks me anymore i'll tell you what was the most

shocking convo last night is um the guy who's training uh jake yeah there's a boxer named jaleon jaleon jaleon love jaleon love and i And I've kind of followed his career a bit because I know he was under Mayweather. He told me the most fascinating story about how he got signed to Mayweather. And I want to have him on the pod to tell it. Have him on. Yeah, well, I got his number.

I'll hit him up. But man, it was so cool. It was like this story of like, we were talking a couple episodes ago about the value of being starving in the fight world and i think that's actually the toughest thing for logan and jake is that like they have money yeah they have success and they have fame they got a fallback so they have a fallback like when dustin was fighting conor mcgregor like conor got kicked in his leg and

then thought oh i i'm worth a hundred million dollars i don't get kicked in the leg i have watches that are worth millions this is stupid it's stupid for me to be in here so and uh j j fucking jay leon jay leon i'm trying to pronounce it with the apostrophe because it's jay apostrophe leon jay le Leon. It's almost like you're overcomplicating the situation. Yeah, I really am. He's like, I want it to sound authentic. Jay Leon. It's not French. It's fucking Spanish.

And he basically said he just moved to Vegas on a whim. And he's like, I'm hoping I'm going to get the call up. And he got the call to spar Mayweather. So he shows up to the gym, and he's there. And Mayweather's, of course, not there. And he asks one of the guys, he goes, when do you think he'll come? And he goes, man, he might not be here for five, six hours.

So it's him and a bunch of other sparring partners and he's like, fuck it, I'm gonna take a nap. So he decides to take a nap. So he's like well rested and he gets up from the nap in a couple of hours. Mayweather comes in six hours, picks him and one other person. He could have not picked him

and then he could have never had that shot. He gets a chance to go in there with Mayweather and he said that mayweather is incredibly precise like hits him and he's so fast he goes but he goes he's 160 pounder now he's fighting 168 he's like i'm bigger i can hit harder so he goes basically whenever mayweather threw i just threw at the same time i knew i was gonna get caught twice, but I was going to catch him once. Right, right. And he said that he was able to bloody Mayweather's nose. Really?

Yeah, and bloody his lip a little bit. But they were going afterwards. And Mayweather goes, he stops the sparring session, and he goes, turn up the clock. And what that means is he's going to extend the round time. So that's when he tries to take people into deep water. Six minutes, seven minute rounds. And Jalien...

Jalien? Jalien. I'm never going to remember that. I'm sorry, Jalien. I'm sorry, Jalien. He's watching somewhere. Wouldn't it be funny if I was wrong this whole time? It's Jalien, bro. He's watching somewhere in Paris right now

like, what the fuck is this man saying? He's butchering my name. I made up the whole story. Why can't I do the worst action? So he goes, he turns up. They go at it for a while. And afterwards, Mayweather comes up to him in the locker room. He goes, man, you could fight.

Now, Jalil, I can't do it. I'm going to say Love. Mr. Love made a decision to not be afraid of Mayweather and not try to get on his good side. Not be cautious. Give him light work, if you will. Just roll with the punches, et cetera. He made the decision to go after him.

And it was a smart decision because greats respect when you go after them. They respect the courage. They know they had that same thing and that's what they, iron sharpens iron. And he goes up to him and he goes, where you from? He goes, I'm from Detroit and you know, Floyd's from Michigan.

Floyd's from Flint, Michigan. Grand Rapids, right? Grand Rapids or Flint? Maybe it's Grand Rapids. But he's from Michigan as well. He goes, oh shit, he goes, who's your manager right now? He was signed to Lou DiBella, who was a guy who was promoting boxing out of new york and he goes call him up right now tell him i'm buying you out of your contract and that day changes entire life

it goes and ends up winning the wba belt i mean like it was just i'm listening to this story all right guys we're gonna take a break for a second because uh some of you smell bad simple as that hygiene is trash step up your hydraine dream whatever it is step that shit up you're stinking all right your armpits are sweaty getting all in your t-shirts and stuff you think because you're on zoom meetings you don't gotta smell good you still gotta smell good all right you're still going out to get coffee drinks etc and how are you gonna do that you're gonna do that with hawthorne hawthorne makes being hygienic the easiest fucking thing on the planet it is that simple one stop shop one stop shop take a little quiz answer some questions and they do the work for you

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Crazy Of one day changing someone's life Yeah yeah Your entire life The guy's got a family now Like one fucking day Yeah Can change your life man

It's unbelievable Yeah I mean Logan introduced me to Lana Rhodes one day And that changed my fucking life And it changed my life Now were you truly shocked man it's unbelievable yeah i mean logan introduced me to lana roads one day he was this guy was starving i was like i got one shot i was like it was like that it was like that scene in eurotrip when they're in like estonia and he gets the nickel and he goes the guy quit i went up to logan i was like i ain't your assistant no more bitch i'm out of here. Is that how you started?

Did you start? No, I was never his assistant. How did you guys get connected? So I was on the brand side working with a company called Lovesack. Everybody still has me on their phone as Mike Lovesack. I have you as Mike Impulsive. Yeah, that works. And I'll never put your last name in my phone. Nobody ever does because no one knows how to say it.

It's insulting to my phone. Yeah. It's just going to be like the red dots under, but they don't even suggest how to like what is this errant jay yeah why is that there yeah yeah but i was i was a marketing director uh for this brand and i met him on this on this opportunity he wanted these giant beanbag chairs for his house yeah so i gave him to him we ended up linking up later and like long story short we hung out a couple times we fell in love and lived happily ever after started a podcast together now it's obviously the world's number one podcast every time joe sees that he's like he's fucking scum these morons it is a great podcast man it's a lot of fun man you know what i like about your

setup is that it feels like a show there's so many people that are watching yeah like i get charged up because there's like an audience yeah like i think when i went and did your pod that was the first time that i kind of was like funny in front of a group of people yeah and maybe eight months nine months yeah because i just haven't been performing right like obviously when we're all just busting balls here it's so inside you know yeah but uh And it was really fun. And it was, I don't know if that's like by design, but it works out. You mean the people that are watching in the room?

Yeah, like the fact that you guys have so many parasites just trying to suck money out of you guys. Actually, why'd you look at them? Like, right. No, I don't know. I just wanted to gauge their reaction. They're like, is he talking about me? Fuck. I guess I'm back to Cuba tomorrow.

Back to Cuba. Fuck. This kid was at the house. So coked up. It was so funny. He was so coked up. Dude, he was so coked up. It was unbelievable. Yes, you.

Just running back and forth. What's the Wi-Fi code? What's the Wi-Fi code, bro? What's the Wi-Fi code? No, it ain't cocaine. It's working for logan paul is that it oh yeah oh he's he's an abusive ball no i'm just kidding he's not he's not he's not he's great but yo we love the podcast out of all the things that i'm blessed to fucking

do like whether it's youtube the twitch all the things we talked about yeah uh the podcast is the most fun and logan the same like he he loves boxing he loves the the size of the the prize that he gets from the box he loves the thrill of the fight but the podcast man is just me and him you're not getting hit in the fucking face yeah that helps no but we got this dynamic man

and we're best friends bro and it's just it's just so much fun and I think you know after 250 some odd episodes like we've gotten quite good at it and we've had some big talents on there and the Mike Tyson episode and the 6ix9ine exclusive and you know all 250 some odd episodes like we've gotten quite good at it and we've had some big talents on there and the mike tyson episode and the six nine exclusive and you know all the stuff that we've been able to do on the show has been has been crazy and andrew shoals probably with two of the i would say two of the funniest episodes we have fun man it's a fun episode i like that there's not a lot of ego on your podcast because like logan is without a doubt a bigger name but you talk a lot on the podcast

and it doesn't ever seem like he's i don't know it shows a lot of confidence the vibe i got from him last night he seems very comfortable in his own skin oh he is he's he's got the super confidence it's not real no you know what i'm saying is like there could be a situation where because he's a bigger name he might have an ego and he might be like yo why are you trying to outshine me or whatever but it seems like you guys are trying to create the best product and sometimes that means that you're gonna have a connection with a guest and i'm sure sometimes it means that he is yeah but uh i don't know it's it's admirable when you see people in that situation that's exactly i mean that's you you kind of named it exactly with the with the connection to the guest i mean we've had our uh

we've had our moments like we've had walk-offs we've had arguments yeah yeah absolutely i mean there was one time where he looked at the sign and he said yo it's impulsive not in mike's like we've had those but not out of ego but probably due to my ego because in all honesty like all right so so when i start banging a porn star? You think you're uncomfortable? You think you're hot shit. And I was before that. But like when I joined Logan.

When you were banging a different porn star. Not untrue, unfortunately. That one wasn't retired. Active duty. Yeah, active duty. But when I first met him in 2018, like he was. Or sorry, when I first started really working met him in in 2018 like he was uh or sorry when i first started really working with him in 2018 or late 2017 he was the the clean face logan paul the not as much

like logan paul he was the he was you know just post tokyo and his rebrand was brilliant massive and so like you know i've been there with him every single day as we you know work together to turn him into someone that is a very humble likable guy you know what i'm saying and and and very much like lana he continues to suffer under the uh stigma of under the umbrella that is his past you know what i'm saying and he he did a lot of cringe shit he did a lot of egotistical shit. He ain't suffering by any fucking means. Yeah, but I hear what you're saying. It's hard for him to outrun it.

But you got to lean into it. That's what I would do. I don't know, but I understand. That's what Jake does. So that's what Jake, Jake leans all in. Logan has become very, very humble, very smart. And the thing with the podcast, when you bring that up and lack of ego there is, And the thing with the podcast, when you bring that up and lack of ego there is,

Logan is an innately good businessman and purveyor of quality content. Yeah. And within the first 50 to 100 episodes, he saw in me the podcast. He said, yo, that's the fucking podcast host. That's the guy. And now it's our show. That's the Wayne for you. For sure. And now it's our, because I love to talk. Yeah, yeah. talk yeah you'll notice like you you're almost like a throwback radio guy yeah

no i mean that sincerely like i could see right like there is a vibe you can talk you can shoot the shit energy and enthusiasm yeah because i want to be like yo that's his radio i'm just saying if we were having this conversation in the 90s, you would be getting into radio. Right, right. 100%. Like on Howard's show or something. Exactly. Talking about porn stars. But he'll get an hour and 15 deep, and he'll start looking at the clock, because he's got

shit to do, or he's got a box. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but I'm like, dude, I got another four hours in the tank. You know what I'm saying? I'm ready. Give me a fucking coffee or a Red Bull, and let's bang this out until tomorrow morning, bro. Right.

You know, I want to talk. We have alex jones on the show yeah this motherfucker's staying for six hours i'm here for the marathon yeah you know and logan's always yo can we get some food really quick i'm like bro i want to stay and so he saw that in me and was like yo let's activate it and he gave me a piece of the show and said yo this is your show now you know what i'm saying and and and really leaned into it and was like yo like this is this is great and so we've had a ton of fun it's been it's been a blast and now all he wants to do is box that's it yeah um does it bother him that i like you more do it your age no i think he sees it as like i think he sees it as like a as like a good guy yo i Mike Malik I don't know

I don't know your last name dog that's alright Malik it's a J it's a J Malik yeah don't use it though

may lack certain skills but yeah he's like I mean these two were in NAMM together may lack certain traditions yeah he was like yo these two

served in Korea or Vietnam together like these guys you know they bend through a lot they gotta eat mashed potatoes through a straw

for dinner they can't get their dick hard without blue chew shout out blue chew yo you did you chew up first bro i don't know this i'm the face of the brand no i'm not even kidding i'm not even playing i do more bro i'm i have a 24 7 always on blue chew partnership i love it i love it I love it. I love it. But did you feel like you had to bring it the first time you went down? I talked. Guys always think, they're like, oh, damn, that girl's been with this many guys. Even about a scene chick in LA.

Yeah. I'm like, jeez. Is that a scene chick? A scene chick. You know, like the girl like Hyde or like War guys. Even about a scene chick in LA. Yeah. I'm like, jeez. Is that a scene chick? A scene chick. You know, like the girl like Hyde or like Warwick. The girl at the Super Bowl party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scene chicks, right?

Like, damn, I heard the homie fucked her at Coachella and he was on Molly. He probably gave her good. Now I got to throw down. All girls want the same thing. Most girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most girls.

Not the scene chicks. But most girls, they want a dude that they have a a connection with they want to do that they have that emotional connection that like you know that chemistry right that might be true but i knew it's coming that might be true yeah but there's still a part of you that wants i don't know you want to show up you might feel inadequate absolutely um fuck i try i'm trying to like be careful with it it wasn't the first time i was with an adult film like it wasn't the 10th time i was with i know it wasn't the first time you said adult film star yeah i tried to keep it i tried scene chick adult film star but he's like no no i know yeah like i tried it like we had we had hung out we had been hanging

out with like riley for like a year by that point she was just like hanging around hooking us up with like everyone at the top right you know what i'm saying so like i think maybe in the beginning i was like yo dude this girl fuck mandingo like i gotta really bring it yeah yeah you know my dick's only like a 150th of mandingo yeah a sezna double engine sezna yeah yes yes you know i gotta show up yeah but um but that's not really like zero insecurity about following taiga yeah you got it is it a good follow no i would have zero insecurity about following taiga oh like following him in the vagina or on instagram yeah even if my dick is smaller just in general zero insecurity because

of his height yeah he's like four foot six. And face shape? Yeah. There's something about his face shape that I was like, I think it's okay that now they're not looking at that. You ever seen an intercontinental ballistic missile up close before? Yeah. His penis is a nuclear weapon. I'm drinking out of his penis right now. No, that's way too small. He's the six gallon Poland spring.

The Poland spring thing that you drop it at the office. You can grab on the side. Yeah, you drop it at the office you can grab on the side yeah to carry it you still fall over you still fall over but nah but and I

you know like listen and the other thing shout out to you Tyga shout out Tyga Swordsman what is it called

Swordsman 2 Raw is his only fans management service but listen also I'm just not

lacking there I'm not may lack more like I'm good there i got it you're heavy exactly will i pop a a chewy a bc yeah a blue do blue chew yeah for like an extra 20 on top of my 100 yeah occasionally occasionally just when i really want to throw the fuck down yeah but no i'm not i got no issues there like i've never no complaints you weren't feeling inadequate and after you've probably been with a few of these uh girls that are in the adult film industry yeah you start to realize maybe some of their like sexual proclivities as well like the first time maybe it's a little bit more uh jarring but after that

you start to realize like oh okay i see they just want some connection they don't want to just bro they're all honestly they're all the coolest girls that i've had the pleasure of hanging out with yeah not like take the sex out of it but they're all like like you have to you have to assume that they are a little bit more liberal a little bit more open to to adventure than the average woman right so you know they're just they're just really cool girls and and to be completely honest with you like that space is horrible man it's like like what do you mean my dude my girlfriend amara because her name's not actually lana it's amara you know got into that space when she was 18 years old and and and there's all these people out there and they'll say oh yeah but she made so much money she got her name because of that all of that's true and she made a lot of money more than i think any other star in the space like she's made a ton

of fucking money a ton she's a logan paul she's the logan paul she's the jeffrey star of porn right but she was pushed to do things that she should have never like she would shut like you know at first it started off as very like light stuff like just her by herself and then the agent said you know come to this shoe and she went to the shoe and there was like two guys and then it turned into a fucking interracial and then it turned into an old guy and like two guys before interracial yeah they're just like yo we don't want to push we don't want to push her too hard so we'll give her two white guys first they really don't like black push her too hard, so we'll give her two white guys first.

They really don't like black people moving in the neighborhood. No, but it's a big thing. An IR scene, like some girls don't do it at all, right? Yeah. But like she, dude, she was- Why is that? I don't know. Maybe some girls just don't. I don't know.

No, but is it like, are you tainted or something like that? Well, what's Kanye says in one of his songs, right? Ray go down, she never fucked a black guy what was it i think it was their stock yeah supposedly i don't fucking it's a kanye verse don't fucking cancel me i don't fuck now but what's interesting about porn is it a super primal right it's super you're tapping into people's primal instincts so i'm curious like if that's a primal reaction right if people who jerk off to porn are going i don't want her fucked by a black guy because once she's fucked by a black guy i will value her less it will potentially that's a

fucking listen everything like a racist thing yeah i mean listen everything that exists in that industry yeah is a result of dollars you know what i'm saying and so if they look and at the demo and say yo our demo is predominantly middle america 86 caucasian male and and and this will upset 40 of those people to see this little white 18 year old girl have sex maybe that is the case now but but but just a just a book on that but yeah she got pushed into doing a lot of things well i have a question about that yeah yeah go ahead so she's pushed into doing these like uncomfortable yeah yeah right like she shows up she thinks she's gonna shoot one thing and then they like pull the blank yeah the sheet out and does she have the ability to say no or do they really lean in so so absolutely so like they they can't force it when it comes to sex work, it's very, they're very careful. But I'm sure, I'm not sure I'm positive that in cases with up and coming girls, the agent

will be like, hey, like completely your, no, no, completely your choice. Like you don't have to do this scene today. But I'm, you know, I think the client was just saying that if you don't do this scene today, like you lose the next four as well. And then you're, and now you're like, yo, I have to pay rent tomorrow rent tomorrow i have to buy food tomorrow sometimes i have to pay for my kids food tomorrow like am i am i am i justifying any of this am i telling you know people that they should let people off the hook for their decision absolutely not but what i'm saying is there's a there's a big level of like if you asked her and i i hate i hate to talk about this too much with her not being here, but like,

she looks at a lot of it as, as almost like forced sexual behavior. Like honestly, like she, she's like, yo, like I didn't do that with my intention. Like I didn't do that because I wanted to.

I do that because my agent said, yo, if you don't do this same scene, like you're not going to work tomorrow. And so it's just a really, it's really nasty. And like I said, like I,

it, I'm not making an excuse for it or saying like that. Oh no, no, but it's, I think we can all have empathy for it. I would hope,

I would hope that people would, but it's just, it's a lot to ask. And, and it's, and it was strange. It's a lot to ask from people who also whack off to whack off to it.

It's like Michael Jackson. Yeah. It's like, Akash has this brilliant take on Michael Jackson. It's like, the reason we believe that he's innocent is because we don't want to, we don't want to stop listening to the music.

And we know we would still listen to it even if we found out that he was guilty. Or if he was still making it. You know the dudes that are posting those pictures on my tweets, right? They're her biggest fans. Of course. They're her biggest fans. They hate you. They hate me.

I guess what I'm saying is like, we don't want to believe the sinister side of the adult film industry if you're whacking off to it all the time it's like the dairy industry you don't want to know where that shit comes from that is one that is a great now just give me the milk i just want to have a cheeseburger i just want to have a piece of chicken like i don't want to see the fucking i don't want to know how it's getting their heads cut off in rapid succession don't show me the videos peter like you're ruining it for me i like eating these i don't want to see how the sausage is made that's the same that's a nice that's a great analogy do don't want to see how the sausage is made. That's the same. That's a nice, that's a great analogy. That's a great analogy. Do you ever want to just beat the ever loving shit out of her agent?

Yeah. I mean, like, have you ever like seen them at a party? Nah, because she's been removed for so long. Right. You know what I'm saying?

But it's, it's, it's just weird. Cause it's the only industry I think in the world where, uh, until the advent of OnlyFans I think we should get into that for a second where a woman is the product

the man not only benefits on the user end by jerking off but also the profit end and so in the middle you have this girl who's paid this minuscule price for someone above her to make billions and someone below her to get the rocks off it's a really fucked up thing.

And then all of a sudden, OnlyFans comes along and shakes everything up. That's because they got too greedy with those girls. I believe so. OnlyFans would never come out if the girls were getting paid a lot of money. Yeah, I believe. Because there would be no reason for them to leave.

They'd be like, no, no, I'm getting paid millions. I got a sweet deal. Exactly. Imagine if... They were squeezing them too... There's a... I forget the fucking term. Mark, you might know the term for this, but it's, it's an ultimatum between human beings where you can only fuck me a certain amount.

So for example, fuck, what is it? It's like, if I know that we have a hundred dollars, right? And we have to come to a consensus on how to share the a hundred dollars. I can either accept a certain amount that you give me. And we both get the hundred. We both share it. For example, I can go, we both get some money. We both get some money or neither of us get any, right. Apparently we'll accept that ultimatum up to 70, 30. So if I have a hundred, I go, bro, I'll give you 30. I keep the 70 and you'll go, well, I didn't do anything, I didn't work for this. I'll keep 30,

he'll keep 70, he's not fucking me over too bad. Apparently when it goes under that, human beings start to go, I would rather you have nothing than fuck me over that brutally. And I feel like that's what happened in the porn industry. They fucked him over that much. Cops should start using that

because you know when you get pulled over and you got a bunch of crack in the car and everybody just points at the other person but imagine but imagine fucking a porn star the most unrelatable reference but imagine if they were like yo this is this holds a decade sentence you got a lot of rock in the car kid yeah yeah and you're, bro, you want to do 70? I'll do 30. Like, are you cool with that? Like, it is my shit, but like, I don't want all the time. And if you don't accept it, I'm just going to blame it on you, man.

And you know, I don't have a record. And you're like, damn, bro. Uh-huh. 70, 30, huh? So if they had given just a little bit of equity. They squeeze it too much. Like, if they were like, yo, Riley Reid, we'll give you a percentage of Vixen or Brazzers or whatever.

Pay them a quarter. If they were paying a quarter, they would never. Listen, I'm not saying, I don't know how hard work porn is, but I'm assuming that these aren't the hardest working human beings on the planet. I'm assuming you're leaning into this because you either have no other options in life or you're like, I don't want to work every single day. I'd like to make some good money. So we're not talking about people who are willing to work 80 hours a week right not trying to be

insulting but it is what it is yeah i think so okay yeah so kind of like being a youtuber literally yes just pimping yourself out there you go there's enjoyment but but i would say the editing time is fucking painful so bad in being a youtube you know who edits my videos the fucking me really i thought it was that arab you got sitting in the back of my room right now he's supposed to but he keeps sucking what is he what is this guy brazilian what what halfway to half mexican it's a nice mix you're fully met these guys are mexicans yeah yeah i didn't want to yes i didn't want to say it but interesting i didn't He doesn't look Mexican at all, dude.

See, I thought he was Mexican for sure. He can speak Spanish. You can speak Spanish? If you say Allah Akbar, I swear to God, I will kick you out of this fucking room right now. No, I will walk right now. That's all I'm trying to say is they squeezed him out too much and they thought they could do it.

They shouldn't have. And they're and they're gonna and they're gonna take they're gonna regret it imagine imagine like being who was it

the infamous oh Mia Khalifa right Mia Khalifa imagine being her and she's like the most I ever got was can I tell you something about her

I could tell it was coming no this is what bothers me about her oh yeah let me fucking say this last thing because we'll never get back to it. 12 Gs was the most she ever made off a video, right?

And she was like, 12 Gs, 12 Gs. And the guys that made it made millions. Imagine being her and the next month you switch to OnlyFans. 400 Gs. Yeah, yeah. It's good money. 400 Gs first month. Yeah, it's good money.

There's no doubt. It's good money. I will say this. Go ahead. This is the thing that annoyed me about her. Is that she did this porn. Yep. Right?

Yep. I think with the burka on. Yes, she did. Right? Big time. Such an ass. She did this porn with the burka. Burka.

Burka. He's like, is that near chihuahua he's like is that how far is that from laredo man so she did the porn with the burka home right yeah yeah and she gets all these death threats and all this other kind of stuff big time i find out she's not muslim stop she's christian yeah whoa that changes that bothers me that's bad if you were muslim you grew up like this this is your culture right you're choosing to do this in a pornographic way but that is yours right right she's appropriating it like somebody else she's no different than the fucking what are those stupid the french magazine that always gets shot up and

anybody else. Charlie Hebdo. She's insulting the culture as well. She don't have to take that. Right, right. But she did it. She specifically took it because she knew how shocking it would be and insulting it would be. What do they call it?

It's like cultural appropriation. It's not even appropriation because she's not appropriating that type of porn because that shit don't really exist as far as I'm concerned. There was two in the scene in the first scene. It was her and I think the mom, two or some shit. They both had burkas on. All I'm saying is like,

you know the smoke that you're asking for with that like very well. You're not even defying your God. Like if you were trying to deal with that

with your God, cool, but if it's someone else's God, it's like, that's foul, yo. She dressed up like Mary or she dressed up like Jesus. Or had like some

Baptist singers in the background or something like that. You dressed up like Jesus Or had some Baptist singers in the background Or something like that How Jesus was really born Oh my god I'm just saying for me when I found that shit out I was like I can't feel bad for that as much Yeah hers has been a much more

Publicized story of her trying to Rebrand and come back from that Self publicized Yeah self publicized but I think a lot of people Have talked about it We have an Arab giving pushback trying to rebrand and like come back from that. Self-publicized. Yeah, self-publicized. But I think a lot of people have talked about it. We have an Arab giving pushback. As a Moroccan, I'll tell you, the burqa's not a religious item, it's a cultural item.

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, we fucked up is what you're saying, bad? No. We suck? Did we fuck up? The niqab and the... Bro, bro, bro.

I can't say that word, bro. I was in a fucking room, dude Damn, y'all got some racist on this show Colton Worthgreen What is his name? What is his name? Morgan Whalen Morgan Whalen, I'll never look at that

Jay Leon All these people in the fucking Have a normal name Malak I think you have more syllables than I do In my last name Schultz Not even no T

Remember that time I told you we met in 2013 Bro we met at Eddie Wong's Bauhaus Quite the place Walk in dude 3-4am They got Dipset playing still Even to this day D to this dip set bro diplomatic community album playing it just makes you feel good on the inside bro man and i looked like a

fucking moron in that i got a photo of me and andrew bro before we ever knew each other how did you know how'd you get the photo wait why don't we just show the photo right now no but i mean like on the show are we showing it on the show? Yeah Al can you insert the photo? I saw him and I was like Dude that's that fucking really funny dude You know And I saw him and I was eating my bow And I was like I'm gonna go up

And do the one thing I shouldn't do And ask for a picture And we took a picture And now it's just I can't believe it Well it's a good thing Logan took you in Not me Okay

Because it really worked out for you I mean did it though? Maybe it did maybe it did i wouldn't be able to introduce you to any porn stars but i've got a nice moroccan jew who just can't stop dropping racist slurs dude what was that about though you can't say the n-word though dude you can't can't he's african can he say it he He is an African man. You're African. What about Egyptians? No.

Egyptians can't say it? They're more African than you'll ever be. Yeah, but they claim Arab. They claim Arab. Interesting. Interesting. What about whatever that is back there? He's like, why me again, man?

In the Bronx, bro. I'm legal. Wait, can he say it? I almost feel like he can get away with it. Wait, can he say it? I almost feel like he can get away with it. He's like, not today. Not with that dude sitting here. Not with one of them in the room, man.

That's crazy. Are you crazy, man? That's a one-way ticket to the morgue, man. I ain't doing it. They get angry. Why they put us in cages? They didn't put them in cages they didn't put them oh yeah anyway bro what else but you want to do more porn stuff or what what else you got it to me it's not

about the porn it's more just about like um you're involved in a really interesting social experiment i'm just in a weird place bro it's not really that weird i know i think it's like you have perspective on it because think about what because so where i came from the youtube side the porn side also like now i go up to people and they're like yo i read your book like yo i wrote a button i'm not saying like i had somebody coming and write my book i wrote a book bro personally wrote a book that by the way made fucking oh you know mich fucking Michelle Obama look bad, made everybody, because they were all down the charts. So you were bodying Michelle Obama?

Obama, Stephen King, John Grisham. I was at number two globally on Amazon, bro. Number one on Audible, bro. Michelle couldn't hang with you, bro. Her book about being a housewife. Oh, when I say say this i mean i mean for about 12 hours man it was a quick run then she sold about a million yeah but yo but that's been wild bro and and um it's it's like one of the highest rated books on amazon and on audible it's just it's just uh it came out really good it came out really good and It came out really good. And also the story's wild.

The story's wild. Vital. Vital. Yeah. Go check out the fifth Vital, man. No, you have obviously like a wild story. Super unique. And I don't know.

It seems like your rebound has been pretty great. I'm glad you didn't OD, man. I know. I know. I mean, I think about it all the time, bro. Every day that I wake up. That's why. That's why. We talked about it at the beginning of the episode. I was like like what do you say to the kid how do you upset him how do you piss him off like what do you say that makes him be like you know that really offends me what would generally speaking the people that take shots at you aren't the kind of people you want to impress anyways like yo have you ever seen that's a great insight have

you ever seen a dude that's just out here getting it making money having a great family living life doing all that good shit being negative and pulling down on someone else who's already going obviously going through it they're out there saying yo here's how you do better here's how you make up for this here's how you turn this into a moment that creates positive in the world here's how you make this moment funny or entertaining or whatever yeah then you got this huge community of internet fucking warriors broke motherfuckers at home jerking off sending dick pics to me you know what i'm saying or sending pictures of my girl gang gang like bro as soon as i realized yo the the the quality quotient

the quality the median quality of these people's lives was so low yeah now when people send me that shit i reach out i'm like yo how can i help you bro how could i help you like what do you want from me what can i give you to make your life a better place and usually as soon as i respond yo i'm a fan man i'm the biggest fan bro ever your girl's so hot like you got such a good thing going i'm like dude just say that they just want to get your attention that's it they just want to know they exist bro yeah a lot of people don't feel like they exist it's fucked up yeah it's because when i was nobody which was even somewhat still today and 99 of my life until today right i was never hitting people up like yo

fuck you fuck your money fuck your girlfriend fuck i never did it not one time because you were high you were feeling better than all of us. Yeah, in fact. And there wasn't computers in 1926. So I couldn't comment on shit. My stays didn't come out until a century later. Yo, we're old, bro. Bro, we're fossilized.

Bro, thank you so much for coming by, my man. Bro, you're amazing. Yo, tell everybody where they can get the book. Obviously. The Fit Vital on Amazon. Yeah, the Night Shift on YouTube. um yeah the night shift on youtube check out the night shift on youtube the twitch stream is the night shift as well uh yeah night shift gaming night shift gaming and then obviously impulsive they got a great podcast man it's it's honestly whenever i'm in la i hit y'all up because it's one of the places i like

coming by i love you man and uh yeah i'm just excited to see what else you do man i'm really excited for your journey bro i mean that sincerely i think that um i think you got a lot of cool shit coming up man i think you got a lot of cool i think i think you're gonna be one of the guys that called it early i really do and i'm not and i'm not like one of those guys to like speak on shit like manifest bro i'm from the fucking east car i'm like yo just keep the crack i'm like that guy don't give me any crack yeah yeah but yo we got we got stuff going on i'm excited i'm excited bro well anyway dude thank you so much for coming by thank you mike malak everybody yeah got that shit right there you go shout out jay leon bro and shout out these guys man what are their what

is uh do they have in and justin what Justin, what are your socials, guys? Yeah. Here, turn it off, turn it off. We'll post on the story. I'll fuck with y'all, I'll fuck with y'all, man. Kevin and, what's your name? Kevin and Justin, the most fucking white Mexicans you'll ever meet. Dude, there's no way Kevin and Justin are these guys' names?

Are you fucking kidding me? You said the girls that come from Asia and they name them like Linda. That's them! They just picked the whitest names? This one's going to be Kevin. This one's going to be Justin. That guy's face, there's no way he's a Kevin, kid. No way, bro. Raul.

Raul. Does that sound... No. Enyay. Enyay. Just that. Enyay. does that sound all right love you guys what is this it's chancla and piñata back there we love you we appreciate you thank you for coming out all right guys we're gonna take a break for a second because some of you are not sleeping as good as you should and we're gonna make that easily uh accessible to you right about now okay and it's with helix this is the bed that you're gonna get ordered right to your house it's literally what i'm sleeping on it's what dove is sleeping on it's what akash is sleeping on it's what alex is sleeping on it's what mark is sleeping on it's helix helix mattresses this

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That is the discussion. Yes. You think 100%? Indisputable. Okay, now why? Give me why. I mean, look what Tom Brady did. Can you imagine Michael Jordan going to a second team and winning a championship?

I think he didn't even get to the playoffs when 75% of your conference gets to the playoffs. But Akash, MJ was 40 years old. I know, I know. You can't do anything at 40. How could he possibly compete with all these young bucks who are so athletic and brilliant? The game has completely changed. How could he compete with them at 40 yep i mean how old was tom oh tom at 43 oh he was older

much older interesting okay okay okay three years big difference people make a big deal about i was talking to uh somebody's in a group chat and they also brought up the different team thing i don't think people realize how difficult it is to win with another team. It's incredibly hard. Also, but why break it down? Why you're going to a different system? Yes,

you are. He's going to a different conference. So he's playing different teams pretty much all together. Every team he sees is different. If you're in the same team, you play almost half your schedule every year against the same division opponents, right?

He knows the Buffalo billsills inside and out. Now he's playing the Saints twice, and he got curb stomped twice, and then in the playoffs he was like, no, I got it now. Curb stomped. It's good now. Right, right. Now he's going to completely new personnel, completely new culture, completely new city.

Everything is different. Yeah. Everything is different. Yeah. But here's what Tom Brady is. Tom Brady is, you know, people that say like it's a vibe. Tom Brady is a culture yes tom brady comes to your team and now the entire culture is tom brady's culture he will take your misfits yes and make them magical yes i mean antonio brown hasn't said a peep since he moved into tom brady's pool house bro leonard fernet who's a little talky talky

got yo he's a little talky talky working Jacksonville they got rid of him and he was a high draft pick and they were like we can't do it he's done yeah and Coughlin was like I don't want to deal with this little talky talky Tom Coughlin who's a guy who manages egos very well yes couldn't manage the ego yes both of them I think there might be one more player on the team I'm'm forgetting right now. Oh, uh, so, Oh, and Dominic and Sue, I don't know how to fucking pronounce his first name. No vowel.

Have a motherfucker. I would never say that's something who never got made fun of for their first name. Isn't that crazy? Or his last name. So yeah, never. It's an expression,

bro. That's a reaction. So, uh, most people are like, and Dominic. Yeah, I'll figure it out.

I'll get it. What are you? Six, six, you can chase me. What are you, 6'6"? How do I fit that in at the beginning? You can chase me. But point is, he got all these guys who were, I mean, Leonard Fournette's

only been in the league for a few years. But had the stigma over them that they were really tough guys to get to buy in. Yes. And he has this magical ability to get people to buy in. Antonio Brown And he has this magical ability to get people to buy in. Antonio Brown, that touchdown was a great route.

He threw it also goat shit. That was after he went at Tyron Matthew and went in his face and was like, I'm going after you all fucking game. Yeah. I don't know what happened, what got said. We'll talk about Tyron being a bitch later. Did you hear Tyron being a little bitch? Little bitch. Little cap'n.

He said something I won't repeat. What's gross about that is he's trying to imply some shit that he said the N-word. You just called him a bitch. No, I didn't go N-word with it. There's no way that he said the N-word. I thought that's what he was trying to imply. You really think Tom Brady is dropping the N-word? No chance. Come on. I thought that's what he was trying to imply.

After he retires, he's going to say that shit a lot. But I think he wants to come back next year. I feel like Tom Brady got so much respect. If you're his teammate and he said it to you, you'd right you think he i bet antonio brown be like yo could tom brady say the n-word with the a at the end yeah yeah 100 i bet you tom brady could sing along to a rap song with the a at the end and not a single p from anybody a at the end yo i bet him and antonio brown play yg like it's nothing. Like they both just sing along.

Let's do it. Antonio Brown is with it. Sing that shit, Tom. Sing that shit, Tom. You are. This is how much he got Antonio Brown to buy in. This was the most look at me motherfucker in the league. Antonio Brown scores a touchdown in the Super Bowl.

Do you know what he does? What? Drops to his knees, raises his arms up to God to say thank you. Yeah. And by God, you mean? Tom Brady. Tom Brady. By God, you mean Tom Brady.

Let's be honest. Here's why I also want him to be the GOAT, because he seems like much less of a dickhead than every other GOAT. He's Mike Pence to me. Explain. Personality-wise, he's a politician. He's a consummate politician like even mike pence who i don't think we heard speak for three years yeah right and everybody's

like this guy wants to turn gay straight through conversion therapy and he's a piece of shit and what an asshole and the second we saw him in that debate we're like this guy's got a president looks like a nice guy yeah Wouldn't hurt a fly. I mean, he's the sweetest human being on the planet. Like literally, he was very likable. Literally, didn't hurt a fly. Just sat in his face. Refuse.

Refuse. Not gonna do it. It's the Christianity. So he seemed like this really sweet guy and like incredibly polished. Like anytime he tried to pin anything on him, he said the right thing. And I think that's Tom.

I have no clue who Tom Brady really is. He could be the sweetest man ever and know exactly what to say in every single moment the guys were coming up to him in the locker room do you see that and they're like uh we got number one for me but number seven for you tom we got and he was like we just got one that's all that matters right now is we all got definitely political and there's some little sociopathy to him but here's what i point to yeah the belichick vs. Brady thing, who did Rob Gronkowski come out of retirement for?

Oh, of course, Tom Brady. Tom Brady's teammates all fucking love him. I heard the first, and again, this could be bullshit narrative, but I still like it. I heard the first thing Tom Brady did after he signed with the Bucs is he's like, yo, I want every teammate's phone number so I can reach out to them. Yes, yes, yes. Like that, if you're willing to do

all that, alright, fine. Even if it's a little phony, you're putting in a lot of effort to be phony and nobody's going to see. They're going to buy in and that's dope. That's like, you're working real hard to be phony. So phony that it's kind of genuine. Well, that's the thing. I don't know if he's phony or not. Okay. Right?

I'm not sure. I think that we don't know a lot about time brady which i also like i think that's cool there's some mystery to him he's a throwback he's marlon brando yeah you know what i mean he's one of these figures that we get what he decides to give us yeah he's got a sense of humor clearly like on his instagram he's aware of the things that he's posting are funny he's kind of culturally aware yep like if you notice like even the music that he chooses in the videos it's all hip-hop yeah is everything right like he's going for it like this is supposed to be maga tom brady he's not doing a luke bryant no whatever these fucking

country guys are what's what's your boy who is dropping them bombs oh my guy morgan whalen morgan whalen my guy he's not morgan whalen. You know what I mean? You're a boy, bro. If he sees one of you in the neighborhood, he might drop a couple of them. The coolest I would ever feel. But point being, we know that he's aware of the culture. We know he's aware of what people are saying about him. He's on social. He's responding to themes that happen within social media. He's responding to people responding to his content.

So he knows what's going on. He's aware of this. He's commented on little Duval posts. You remember if you're explaining you're losing? Duval has a meme about a guy getting yelled at by his girl. And Tom was like, if you're explaining you're losing. Boom. G-shit, dog.

That's some G-shit. I don't imagine Tom Brady in his house scrolling Instagram and like seeing what people are saying about him. I don't imagine even needing that at all. But clearly he's aware of it. And clearly he knows how to play that part of the game. I think there's a part of Tom Brady that maybe we might get to witness on like a long form Howard Stern interview.

You know, like Howard got to expose certain people that you really never knew that side of them? Like maybe we'll see that one day, but I think there's a part of Tom that we do not know about because like we don't even really know his strategy for greatness. No. Like I've been thinking about this a lot.

There are certain greats that share their greatness. How they got to the mountaintop right the only thing we know about tom is tb12 is the stuff he sells you isn't that interesting like avocado ice cream is the reason why you're the greatest athlete of all time no nightshades that's it apparently his diet is he's like public about it but still you don't know how locked in he is you don't know you don't hear all the shit also what a fucking idiot bill belichick is for kicking out the tb12 oh my god like what a fucking buffoon we're gonna get to belichick in a little bit but literally he's just hey i just want to keep working out the way i've worked out that won me uh six championships is

that cool no kick him off get the guy whatever alex, Alex Garcia. Whatever his fucking name, Latin name. Kick his ass out. He's not allowed access to the facility. I mean, like, what a mind-boggling idiot Bill Belichick is for the decision-making that he had around Tom Brady. Whatever he needs to be victorious, you feed the man. You rock with it. Okay.

But back to, like, sharing greatness. Like, Jordan put out a whole documentary kind of sharing his greatness. Yeah, but also very much controlling the narrative of what went out. He's controlling the narrative of like how they got to the mountaintop as a team. Yeah. But it was not lost on any of us watching what he had to do and his commitment to the game and what he was willing to give. Right. Right. Yeah. His whole thing was I'm willing to give everything. Yeah. the game and what he was willing to give. Right. Right.

Yeah. His whole thing was, I'm willing to give everything. Yeah. And my motor lasts longer than all your motors. Yeah. And I'm willing to work harder. Yeah.

And I'm more maniacal and I can stay up to two in the morning and be up at six in the morning. I'll outwork everybody. Yeah. Right. And I think Tom Brady's a hard work guy. I don't want to, let me go.

This is another Tom Brady versus MJ thing. And this is why Tom Brady is better. Yeah. Jordan can stay up all night. Tom Brady won't stay up all night you see what i'm saying jordan couldn't play when he came back at 40 because he had been drinking for two years and partying jordan was a party guy tom brady i'm gonna get 10 hours of sleep every single piece of my life is dedicated to this greatness jordan was like that but he still partied tom is like even that i don't need it i am not willing to to say that Tom Brady is better than Michael Jordan just yet.

I know you're willing, and you are probably being way more objective than I am. Oh, because you're holding on to Jordan? I'm holding on to Jordan, and I think that there is something just about the word athlete that I just look at Tom Brady and say, I will say this. I think that Tomady is a much better leader than michael jordan that's part of why i'm biased is i want that guy to be the leader that's just like yes not everybody hates you but the reason why i'm saying that is because tom brady has to manage more characters yeah when you're on a football team you got 50 plus guys yeah that you have to get

on board and you have to buy in and each one of those people has to buy into something that might not directly affect you yeah right you have to get those linemen to fight every single place right you got to get he's got to be on the defense as well yeah he's got to get every one of those corners to fight every single play everyone was saved if I every single play he's got to get every one of those corners to fight every single play. Every one of those safeties to fight every single play. He's got to get his wide receivers to run their asses off for a run play. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? He's got to do everything that he possibly can to get these and motivate all these people.

Michael Jordan has to motivate four other people that are on the floor with him at that time. Yeah. He don't even care what the bench guy's doing. He's not in the game. Yeah. Because he's like, I'm about to go make this up when I get back in there. You have much more personal control on the sport. So while we'll never know if Tom Brady could impact the game in the same way that Michael

Jordan could impact the game because the sports don't compare in that way, we do know that he was able to motivate more people to greatness than Jordan was. Yes. And that's something you brought up in the last episode, and that's where I say Tom Brady is a culture, and what you just touched on. Everybody saw what Tom Brady was, saw how he worked, and everybody elevated their

game. People are saying, like, haters are like, man, any quarterback could have won the game. His stat line wasn't that great. Stat line was good. Stat line was great. 21 for 29, 200 yards, what, three TDs? 200 yards is a little low. It's the least he's ever thrown for. Second least he's thrown for in a win.

It's a blowout. Yeah, also. You're just running the ball for the last two. He knows how to win. That's it. There was a play against the Packers when he kicked the field goal to go up eight. Yeah. He just saw the defense, and instead of taking a hit,

as soon as the ball was snapped, he saw a guy unblocked, and he just threw the ball on the ground. Didn't try to gain a yard. Didn't try to make a play happen. And Troy Aikman was like, a lot of people thought that was like, he just mailed on the play. Troy Aikman was like, no, Tom Brady's so aware. He knows we need these three points. I cannot take a sack. Just throw the ball away. Who gives a fuck? Just do it. And that's where Tom Brady's hyper aware. And I think the stat line played into like the hyper situational awareness. This is how we win.

But defense played their ass off. A lot of it was Chiefs two tackles are injured and no quarterback can overcome that I'm realizing but everybody elevates their game because you see what Tom Brady is doing you know how great he is I can't let this guy down I gotta work like him I gotta lock in like him yeah he straight kicked his family out of his house for two weeks before the Super Bowl who's by himself tom brady tom brady he was like antonio slumber party every single gronk come on over watching doing tiktoks watching film eating avocado ice cream love it he is a culture you bring tom brady your team everything changes everybody elevates their game and that's jordan would do that but also shit on you and

yell on you yell at you and break you tom br Brady's like, no, I just lead by example. You just follow what I do, we're good. That's it. The Tom Brady way. The fuck the Patriot way. It's the Tom Brady way. Just, I'll be what I be, you'll follow. I think a lot of Patriot fans are going to be incredibly aware

at how lied to they were about this thing called the Patriot Way. Yeah. That there was never a Patriot Way. Yeah. There was only a Tom Brady Way. Yeah. And Bill Belichick was a babysitter. This was not a real genius head coach.

And I would go so far to say, I bet you Tom Brady was involved in the defensive scheme. And I'm not even joking when I say that. I love it. I'm 100%. I guarantee he was responsible for 80% of the coaching decisions on that team. 100% of offense, and I bet a significant portion of the defense. Now, people always go, wow, oh, my God, what an amazing defense.

The Patriots always have this amazing defense. Of course. Iron sharpens iron. When you are in practice every single day against the greatest quarterback in the history of the game, and then you have to play against fucking Trent Dilfer, I think you're going to do okay. That's a great point. I'm just saying.

That's a great point. Imagine this. Every single day, right, you practice against the best. Anybody else you play against is easy. It's easy. Great point. That's a great point. So in my mind, okay, what's a Belichick is doing all these brilliant plays.

No, not at all. You just get to compete against the best every day. You're competing against the best. Everything seems easy after that. Simple as that. best every day. You're competing against the best. Everything seems easy after that. Yeah. Simple as that. Everything is easy after you're competing against the best. Yeah.

And this Belichick guy gets to hand over the keys to Brady offensively, and then nothing goes wrong. Yeah. Give me whatever weapons you give me. You also are allowed to get all your best draft picks, put them on the defense. I'll carry. You just give me a good line, I'll carry everything else.

I don't need receivers. I don't think people realize like what i don't think people truly realize what happened here the guy didn't have receivers and people go oh he had grunk yeah he had grunk yes they redefined the position yeah and i'm not to say that uh whatever his fucking name tony gonzalez or whatever it is didn't also redefine the position. And Jimmy Graham, yes, there are other people here as well. But Tom makes the best of what he has. Yes. I don't know if Gronk is the same player without Tom. His first three Super Bowls, his best receivers were like Troy Brown and Deion Branch and like nobodies. Three Super Bowls like that.

And what's also a testament to Tom Brady, he didn't win a Super Bowl from like 28 till 36 or something. Yeah. And then he won four after he turned 36. Four out of his last seven years. It's fucking incredible. It's an interesting thing because I wonder if Jordan dies regretting taking two years off. Because if Jordan stayed in the league, he could have easily went eight for eight.

I don't know if he would have stayed locked in. No, no. I think he would have burned out. That eight. I don't know if he would have stayed locked in. No, no. I think he would have burned out. That's where I disagree with you. I think Jordan has an unbelievable ability to lock in. That's what Tiger doesn't have. Tiger, to me, crumbled under the pressure of the weakest sport that exists. Everybody's like, oh, Tiger's the GOAT.

Tiger's the GOAT. Tiger's the GOAT. But he the GOAT, Tiger's the GOAT, he couldn't take the pressure of golf, 99% of human beings don't even know the fucking rules to golf, you couldn't handle a bunch of fucking crab pants wearing fucking white people in a country club going, I don't know if Tiger's gonna handle it today, you don't have the entire world scrutinizing you, the average high school kid that's on social media got no fucking clue what's going on in golf they're just like oh tiger looks really cool and he goes like this after he gets a he nails a putt it literally no criticism whatsoever i didn't give a fuck i don't even know when they play golf

here's the thing i don't even know what days of the week in defense of tiger who does tiger want to impress a bunch of old crab pant wearing white people. So his target demo, his dream fans, we're all watching golf. All the people whose approval he's dying for. Jordan has to deal with the world. Tom Brady has to deal with the world. It's very different when you have a nuanced, specific sport like golf that no one really gives a fuck about. We just liked Tiger because he was with Nike, honestly.

If Tiger signed with Puma, no one would give a flying fuck about Tiger Woods. They did a great campaign for him. Don't get me wrong. Usain Bolt is with Puma. No one cares about Usain Bolt. If Usain Bolt was a Nike athlete, I think he's bigger than all these motherfuckers. Simple as that. Yes, of course.

Look what Nike did with runners, dude. I don't know. Explain. Marion Jones, remember her? Oh, yeah. Now, granted, she was dominant as fuck american the it was american well tiger's american yeah yeah no i'm saying usain bolt but yeah i think that they could blow usain bolt yes okay i guess that's what he'd definitely be bigger i mean

roger federer i never heard him talk once in my entire life yeah and i think the guy was nike athlete for a while right yeah yeah and listen we can have a individual sport discussion a little bit all i'm trying to say is like we keep talking about like oh the tiger's mental toughness and he was able to like meditate and get into the state and he was built for this it was like no he got crushed by white pussy that's what it was at the weakest sport i think golf is the weakest sport you can't say handle the criticism of golf literally everybody that plays golf goes man this shit is tough yeah like they forgive everything you do you miss a putt they're like putting's hard you miss a drive they're like driving's really hard it's true

everything about the sport is forgiveness true oh he's having a rough day that's all i have is rough days nobody's good at golf so when you're bad at golf people go he's just like me there's zero criticism all he had to do was not fuck waitresses, and he couldn't hold it together long enough. It's true. Jordan, that motherfucker could lock in. LeBron can lock in. Not like Jordan. Tom Brady, lock in.

Yeah. Floyd, lock in. Kobe, lock in. Kobe, lock in. Yeah. There are certain guys that can. Those are like the greatest lock-in guys. LeBron, I think, can lock in to a large degree, but not like that.

That's a different level of lock-in. Who? LeBron? Kobe, Jordan. I would have said Tiger and Tom Brady. It's like the elite of elite lock-ins. Tiger, you can't even put him close. I honestly put Tiger below LeBron.

You might be right. I mean, yeah, he did break. He broke. He just broke. Yeah, and you're right. It's a fucking Parker's Waitress. You broke for the fucking bottle bitch at avenue yeah you broke for a bottle bitch you're supposed to be the greatest golfer and you broke for a bottle bitch your parents should

let you get some pussy so you weren't so enthralled by a bottle bitch it's it's embarrassing that's got to be his biggest embarrassment yeah parker's has got to be his biggest embarrassment perkins has got to be the biggest embarrassment what's that the waitress at perkins which is like ihop oh perkins perkins or perkins or whatever it's called i don't even know the name i don't have they got him in florida actually oh this is embarrassing perkins perkins perkins yeah this is embarrassing that was the asian in him remember he was like well i'm not exactly back we get it the black dude would be nailing them white bitches and now they're doing the fucking job the next day 100 this guy fuck one white girl

he's like oh i need to marry it lock it down point is uh tiger gets knocked down many rungs in my opinion i don't even consider him in a go discussion fair i also think golf is whatever this is who cares yeah it's for old people like you could play until you're old yeah like you know what i'm saying yeah like phil mickelson has titties that's true phil mickelson has titties that's true and gut and a gut yeah and he's supposed to be good at this yeah he's also lefty yeah lefties aren't ever good it can't be an elite sport of lefties that is a good question who's the best left-handed athlete ever we don't have to know now, but that's something interesting. No, it's not a sport.

Being left-handed, you can't be an athlete? No, because there's what, like 2% of people are left-handed? So if you're saying it's that, if it's that nuanced, like to be great at a sport, what percentage of people are left-handed? I guess in baseball, you can be left-handed. Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretzky. Wayne Gretzky. 10% of can be left-handed. Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretzky. Wayne Gretzky. 10% of people are left-handed.

No, but Wayne Gretzky was lefty, but he played righty, didn't he? Barry Bonds was lefty. Leo Messi's lefty. Manny Pacquiao's lefty. James Harden. Not exactly. Bumps. There's a handful.

No goats. No goats are left-handed. Honestly, it's just left-handed. Bill Russell, which... Yeah, Bill Russell, a bad motherfucker. But he played with all white people. There was. No goats are left-handed. Honestly, it's just left-handed. Bill Russell, which... Yeah, Bill Russell, a bad motherfucker. But he played with all white people. There was no black people in the NBA yet. So, big asterisk, if you ask me.

Point is, back to the Tom Brady situation. This guy had the ability to lock in, and I think Jordan had the ability to lock in. Super Bowl seven times. Sorry, Super Bowl ten times. Wins seven. Yeah. Jordan, 10 times. Win seven. Jordan six times. Win six. LeBron, I think the reason why LeBron has been tweeting so much, it kind of really exposed him. He's been tweeting so much because he's trying to attach himself to greatness. I think

LeBron sees Tom Brady leaving him, separating himself from LeBron. I think LeBron sees Tom Brady leaving him, right? Separating himself from LeBron. I think LeBron is kind of grabbing onto the coattails. So he's like, we ain't ever going to stop playing until we are this age. We're not going anywhere. You know, two guys cut from the same cloth or whatever bullshit that he keeps saying. And I think that's LeBron recognizing that he is not in the same tier as Brady. And he's trying to place himself in the tier. Do you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that. Brady's not placing himself in LeBron's tier. Brady's not saying, yeah, yo, me and LeBron, we the same, because Brady knows we're not the same. Nobody's the same. You went 10 times. How many do you have?

Three. Four. Four? Two with the Heat, one with the Cavs, one with the Lakers. Four. You went 10 times. You have four. You went 10 times, you have four. I went 10 times, I have seven. I have more, and this is again, this is against Jordan and LeBron.

Tom Brady has more rings himself than every other team. In the NFL. In the NFL. Every franchise has less rings than this one guy. It's truly unbelievable. It's fucking crazy. It's truly unbelievable. He might have more

super bowl appearances than every other team yeah i think the patriots have 10 total i do want to say one thing about lebron real quick is that like when we're talking about the ability to dominate and lock down lebron is still the 99.9 percentile yeah right now when we're having the goat discussion we're still talking about the grayest. We're splitting the thinnest hair possible. The thinnest. Yeah. The thinnest hair possible.

And the ability to lock down consistently over the extent of your career. Yeah. And LeBron has had lapses. Yes. He's had situations where he couldn't control. The reason the Mavs have a championship is because he broke. Because he broke. It was a lot.

And Jordan also didn't have to deal with social media, but that broke LeBron. Being a bad guy for a year just broke that motherfucker. And he got it back, but he was broken that first. And it's impressive to get it back. Yeah. And he's had an absolutely remarkable career. Yeah. There's no question.

But what Jordan was capable of doing, this is the reason why I still have him as my GOAT, even though statistically speaking, everything lends itself to Tom. Yeah. He's been more dominant in a much moreends itself to Tom. Yeah. He's been more dominant in a much more difficult sport to dominate. Who, Jordan?

No. Tiger. Tom. Tom Brady. It is more difficult to have seven rings in football than it is in basketball. Yeah. It just is.

Seven rings in football is like Bill Russell's 11 rings to me. Yeah. And Bill Russell, like you said, played with all white guys tom brady is white and plays with all black guys so he's like that's the biggest uphill climb i mean you think about like he's been playing on all mad in his whole life yeah he can't out athlete anybody jordan can out athlete everybody i will say this though there's something about jordan for me that made me feel like whether the game was won or lost was up to him and his commitment and that's why he's six for six in the finals yeah I think given Jordan given him the opportunity yeah to be in a finals yeah he would be 10 for 10. He only went to six and that's why he has six rings. But if like

LeBron and like Tom, he went to 10, he would have 10. There's something about the want to though. Even after his second three-peat, he walked. Why? Yeah. You walked once for two years. I think after the second three-peat, he was like, yo, I don't know if I can do this again. I mean, they got pushed to the limit by the Pacers. They got pushed to the limit. That was everything. I think he hit his like, yo, we got this, and I'm the greatest, and that's it, but I don't know how many more I have left in me. I don't know how many more Pip got left in him. This is getting stressful. Tom, I don't think he's done yet no he'll be back next year and he'll think he can win again next year yes and he might fucking win again next he said he's gonna play till 40 he always said i want to play till 45 he's been saying that for like a

decade now and we've all been like that's crazy you can't do that yeah i think he's gonna play till 45 and if he's still remotely productive we're gonna say let's keep let's keep going. Really? The want to means a lot. When you're at that level, you're Tom Brady, you're already the GOAT. Now you're just adding. So that's a thing that we've noticed what happened to certain athletes, especially ones that play these incredibly brutal

and violent sports. Tom Brady is sociopathically addicted to the success of football. Yes. I don't think it's attention. I think if there was no social media, he would have the same commitment. Yes. I also think it's like lifestyle for him.

He's figured out a lifestyle in which he's happy. A work-life balance, my assumption. Yes. I dedicate myself to this. I feel fulfilled. I love my family. And this is a great way to live life. And that's all he needs. And removing yourself from that is probably terrifying though a guy with that level

of commitment to things i think he'll figure it out you saw what happened with conor mcgregor yeah and i truly in my heart feel like it's over for him yeah because he's out succeeded his desire to fight yeah you know what i'm saying tom brady has made probably tens of mil we know tens of millions of dollars maybe hundreds of millions hundreds of million dollars and his wife might have more money than him she's richer than he is so they're stacked forever this is not about the money nope and there are very few athletes that can compete at that level of us within a sport that's that dangerous when they are financially good for life yes it is very difficult yeah i don't think i think connor was in there getting kicked in the leg going i'm worth 100 million dollars that hurts too much for 100

million dollars yeah to be in my bank account already yeah right dustin's starving yeah not starving but starving yeah right connor's like what Yeah. Right. Conor's like, what the fuck am I doing? It's like fighting a homeless guy. Like even if you could beat him up, you don't fight a homeless guy. Yeah. That's what Conor's doing when he fights these guys. Every time he goes in the ring, they're homeless. Right. If he goes in the ring with Floyd, Floyd's not homeless. Yeah. Here's the problem. And this is actually a good transition to Floyd. Floyd fights like he's fucking homeless. Yeah. That motherfucker is sociopathically addicted to greatness and winning.

He calls himself Money Mayweather, all that kind of shit. Bullshit shenanigans nonsense. Yeah, he knows how to advertise himself. That motherfucker wants greatness to win. You know how Jordan, if you beat him in a game of ping pong, you're going to be there for the next 24 hours until he beats you in a game of ping pong?

That is Floyd with boxing. That is Tom Brady with football. That is not Conor McGregor with MMA. And that is not LeBron with basketball. I think if LeBron loses, he's like, hey, I got a nice bottle of wine at home. I got a great family. I got a great wife. Everything's beautiful.

We'll be back here next year and I'm going to make Space Jam and everything's going to be cool. I don't think that he's ravaged. I think he was coping and I'm sure he's devastated. I got things more important than basketball. And I think he was just tired of being whatever shit on and he's just like,

fuck you guys. But there was some truth to I get to wake up tomorrow and be LeBron James. He knows that on a certain level. And that's probably healthier for a human being. What I marvel at with Tom Brady

is he also seems happy he he said something yesterday about how it's not about winning it's it's about the pursuit of perfection that's what drives him yes i will never be perfect and pursuing perfection is what drives me i just want to inch closer and closer and closer yes that's like so zen jordan peterson lecture yo right but he's not full of shit that's the difference just inching closer and closer to it is that's like amazing i just need my family and i want to pursue perfection in my craft and that's it and that's all he's driven by jordan we saw the last dance it's a scary addiction to have man in a good way in a good i think it's a much yeah i think it's a much better addiction than most other athletes yeah what i meant by that is a scary addiction to have like for your competitor

oh yeah you know that every single year you're going up against a guy that is addicted to perfection he will do every single thing it takes he's coming in better next year you just got by this year yeah you better get better too there was a fuck this was an interesting tiki wiki they interviewed this guy tom house or whatever his name is he's like the quarterback guru for like all these you've told us about him yeah what he said was interesting was uh one of the guys asked like is it tough to get like tom brady came to him already really successful drew breeze came to him they're like rebuilding his shoulders so he's kind of broken at that time his career tom brady was already one of the goats already and he was like is it hard to get those guys to unlearn what they've learned and relearn? And he said, you know what's interesting? The greats are more receptive than anyone else to

my training. They're always willing to say, what could I do differently? What could I do? They're never thinking what I'm doing is right and you need to stick with that. And I thought that was a really dope insight into a Tom Brady mindset, probably even a Michael Jordan mindset. I mean, I've been knocking him obviously because it's fun but like tiger yeah oh yeah just swing he's like i can i can improve my swing marginally yes if i make this massive change yes i'm gonna unlearn everything i i know about my swing that's already done incredibly well for me so i can increase it by five percent and he lost terrifying he lost for like two years and that's what it was i know where i'm going crazy that i respect the fuck out of oh yeah he's he's a fucking machine he just his parents also

made him a machine so he didn't know how to handle especially when his dad was gone his dad fucking fell off the rails that fucked him up i wonder if his parents regret not letting him get pussy because that ultimately is what broke him oh yeah, yeah. I wonder if, literally, I wonder if his mom could objectively look at it and go, damn it, if I just let him have some fun and get some pussy, then he wouldn't be so distracted by pussy, and then his road to greatness

would be that much easier. It's like a comic. You know, like the comics, you can tell the comics never got any pussy before they were on stage? Yeah. And then now they're on stage, their act is kind of like geared

towards getting laid with the show. show yeah and it really inhibits their ability to have like an honest fucking joke yeah you know how bad i am with women i didn't get pussy ever and my jokes are just how uh i don't like women like i just leaned i just leaned all the way that's how much of a female repellent i am it's almost as if like your girl's writing your act how can he not cheat on me this weekend in rhode island just say women ain't shit for an hour but for real man it is it is truly amazing i think with tiger a lot of it was like once his dad was gone and then he i think couldn't like under his dad was like a womanizing drunk not great guy and i think he couldn't really wrap his mind around hey that was my dad and i love him but

he had these demons i think after his dad died from everything i've read which is one book but he like that's when he went way left with getting pussy and fucking everything and became like addictive how this is just back to tom how the fuck does tom get brady get these people to respect him like i understand how patrickady get these people to respect him like i understand how patrick mahomes gets teammates to respect him because you can do things i've never seen exactly you see him do things that you've never seen that incompletion it was unbelievable unbelievable greatest incompletion ever unbelievable i mean it's absolutely genius there's a shot of him throwing the ball like right before the release yeah and

his knee is like maybe two inches un-fucking-believable off the ground yeah the fact that he and the ball went 30 yards oh yeah unbelievable he had a couple receivers drop passes that if they catch them this is a very different game but then so did tom right tom had the offensive lineman in the end zone oh yeah yeah that's one but there was a couple deep balls one that hit tyreek hill right in the fucking face yeah yeah good defense too but like yeah and again i said this to you before the game i was like i think the chiefs will win just because i think patrick mahomes is so good it doesn't matter but both starting tackles are out for the chiefs and that there is not a single quarterback matter of fact the formula for beating any great quarterback they always say can we get to him with four which

means we don't send any other like safeties or cornerbacks on like blitzes or linebackers. We have them all play coverage. And then our four defensive linemen, can they still get pressure? No quarterback can beat that. Even the greats, they cannot overcome it. And I thought Mahomes was so good it didn't matter. He still couldn't do it. Yeah.

So back to my point, which was like, he does things that are so miraculous that I could see how he gains the respect of his teammates. Yes. He's a freak athlete and you see it. Yes. I don't see, and obviously I'm a super casual when it comes to football, but I don't see, and again, maybe football players, they pick up on the nuance of these things in a way that the average casual does not. Yeah. But when you look at Tom's game, you're not seeing things that are so miraculous. Yeah.

Right? I think a lot of what makes him so successful is his ability to read the defense and make a very conservative throw. Yeah. He's so cerebral. So is the average football player looking at that and going, wow, his decision-making is so brilliant. That's why I respect him. Like how the fuck do all of his teammates love him so much? How does he get them to get on board and support what he's doing?

It's unbelievable. I think his method now is he knows what he's accomplished. So automatically he walks into a room and you know you're looking at the greatest football player ever. So here's the thing. James Harden is arguably one of the greatest basketball players ever. Yeah. Right?

I would have to put him in the top 50. That makes sense. I don't think many people would disagree with that. Yeah. Not worth arguing. I don't think that he has close to that level of respect of his teammates. Granted, he doesn't have the rings. I understand that.

That's the thing. I'm just talking about sheer ability, right? I don't know what the Tom Brady version of, like, I don't know what the basketball version of Tom Brady is. I don't know if it exists because you need a certain amount of athleticism in order to be successful on a basketball court.

To a large, the closest is LeBron. But no, LeBron's athleticism is just through. But his work ethic is also nuts. And I remember Kevin Love, Charlamagne was on that show with him in the shop

and Kevin Love said LeBron's ability to lock in is unlike anything I've ever seen. Now, I still don't think it's Jordan Kobe. I think there's like

a little half a percent or whatever, one thousandth of a percent that's different. But LeBron can also lock in. He works his ass off. He spends a million dollars a year on his body.

I still think Tom is different. And the difference between Tom and James, first of all, skin's on the wall. Tom got seven rings. Nobody has that. Six rings, whatever. You see him, you're like, yo, I know if I follow this guy, we'll win.

So maybe that's it. Maybe it's just winning separates it. And people are like, I'm about to achieve my life's dream. If I'm with this guy, let me get on board. Second part though. If you look at James Harden and you say,

oh, this is one of the greatest guys I've ever seen. I should do what he does. What are you doing? You're drinking, you're fucking hookers, you're giving hundreds of thousands

of dollars of rap, $10,000 of rappers or whatever. That's not, if you're not James Harden, you're not good enough to pull off that lifestyle. Tom lives that life and people see

that he's really that fucking dude. Yeah. On the field, off the field and because of that they have this respect for him even though that he himself looks complete unrelatable to a lot of the guys that he's playing with yeah like in no way even when he's dancing in the locker room like he looks absolutely ridiculous but it seems like these guys fucking love him yeah and

i'm really i don't think that we get to tap into his psyche but i think that this guy is super sophisticated socially and i think he really understands how to get people on his side outside of just winning seven rings because don't get me wrong there's people in that league that think he won those rings because of belichick yeah so if he still has to win over these players there's skepticism in tom brady there are people looking at him big eyes arm isn't what it used to be i played kind of shitty last year i mean even during this season there was a time i think he even called out november where he was just kind of slump and he was playing shitty yeah right was it november november they had a bad november bad november right so it's like but

he still for whatever reason has the trust of these guys you know what i think he knows at 40 42 43 whenever he walks in these locker rooms. It's a paternal thing at this point. I was about to say it. I'm 20 years older than so many of these guys. His relationship with them isn't condescending

in any way. No. It's almost like leads with love. It's really kind of beautiful. Leads with love and I'll get in your ass if I need to

but I got enough credibility with the love that you're like, all right, I need to get my ass chewed. I wasn't doing my job. He almost seems proud of them. A paternal is a great way

to look at it. He'll hug them. He'll smile. He'll be super grateful with them. But he's not, in a weird way, he's not like we're the same. No. But he's not insulting in how he's on a different level. Right.

It's really brilliant the way he does it. And I'd love to sit down with him and just be like, can you break down how you get 53 players from all different walks of life to get on the same fucking page? You know what? Basketball's easy. Five guys? Yeah.

We got five guys here. We can get on the same page. And I'm so- 53? Jordan, I'm so good. Even if you're not on the same page, I'll win. Football, we all got to play our best game. Remember, say what you were saying, the text that he was sending out.

Did you see that? Was it you that told me that? No. Apparently, every single week leading up to the Super Bowl, he was sending a text out at 11 p.m. at night. It goes, we with a capital W, we will win every single night to the whole team. Every single night. We with a capital W.

And it's so interesting. Going into this game, he was, I mean, the Buccaneers were the underdogs. The underdogs. After the first quarter, you're like, oh, shit, the Chiefs are missing a little moxie over here. Yeah, yeah. Right? Mahomes was shook up.

He'd never been, I think the pressure was a lot. I also think a part of it is he knows who he's up against. Yeah. This is the guy he's chasing. Yeah, that's right. He was playing for legacy, man. He's just got to lock in. Tony Romo said this is the most important Super Bowl

Patrick Mahomes will ever play in. Yes, because he stops Brady from winning seven, and he adds another one. Yes. That's so true. Now he's got to get to seven, and he won't. I don't know that he will. I can't fathom it, but who knows?

I mean, yeah, you know. We would have never thought Tom Brady would get to seven at 43 years old, so who the fuck knows're everybody's going to be able to play much longer as we figure out this anti-aging shit yeah tom brady is just you know what i was going to say you know they have master classes like steph curry has a master class on like how to play basketball or how to shoot or whatever yeah tom brady's master class wouldn't be on how to be quarterback it would be how to lead i would love to i would pay so much for that how do you lead men speaking on on that point with romo how he's would pay so much for that how do you lead man speaking on

on that point with romo how he's done so well as a sportscaster do you see brady retiring taking a year off and then a team just gives him the head coaching position off the bat i wonder if you want to ability i mean he'd have the ability to absolutely because he was doing the heavy lifting with the patriots for that whole fucking time because Belichick sucks uh but but yeah I don't know if he'd want to it's weird do you think he would want to I don't I want to say no but there's clearly something about football that is his passion that is I am always this always fulfills me so it could be like John Elway I mean he got him a Super Bowl ring he's not doing great now but he was team president got them the ring Brady I could see doing something like that I'll say why that he would be one of

the most brilliant coaches ever obviously incredible at leading yeah right but also he doesn't have physical gifts yeah compared to us he does the guy's 6'5 he has huge hands he can throw a football incredibly accurately right but he's not a quick guy no so i think he'd be a great coach for the same reason like point guards often make great coaches oh yeah right it's like they weren't given the gifts i'm great because i see the game i see the game and i have to see the game in order to function at this level yeah i must if i'm 6'1 and playing the nba it's because i figured out some shit i hacked this motherfucker yeah chris paul yeah he'd be a pain in the ass he can't lead guys in the same way if I'm 6'1 and playing the NBA it's because I figured out some shit. I hacked this motherfucker. Chris Paul yeah he'd be a pain in the ass. He can't lead

guys in the same way but that motherfucker knows the game. If I gotta consult somebody let me talk to him but then again you could argue that Chris might have some physical gifts. Yeah but nothing. Unbelievable court vision unbelievable speed. He's got the ball on a string Tom doesn't have that

Yeah his arm is good. Not great. His accuracy, probably great. I don't know. I don't hear about it. You hear about like a Josh Allen. These guys got rocket arms and they're mobile. Patrick Mahomes has every skill you could possibly have. Tom Brady, I don't ever hear him put in the elite category for any of his skills individually. That's so

interesting. There is no excuse. You will bring up excuses. What did you say? The Chiefs were missing two tackles yeah for anybody listening right now those are offensive linemen they're super important because they protect the quarterback and give patrick mahomes the time he needs to throw those long routes of the kansas city chiefs like if you're gonna have tyreek hill use his speed yeah to your team's advantage you need to give patrick mahomes time yes for him to go on those long routes right so if you don you don't have that time, it's going to be difficult, obviously, to target him. Yeah.

Now, this is on him. But I just want to say this, is that when you actually look at the teams up against each other, offensively speaking, they're very evenly matched. Dominant tight end. Pretty dominant wide receivers. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, obviously, Antonio Brown,

I don't think he was taking as many snaps as like a Tyreek. No, but Mike Evans is nice. Mike Evans is a beat. They're just different types of guys, an Evans and a Tyreek. But still, like, if you look just offensively, it's not like the Buccaneers were like way overmatched.

We thought the Chiefs were going to win. So you can't really create any excuses for Patrick Mahomes. And this is, as much as the line is a huge difference, there's one thing Patrick Mahomes could have done, which is just throw to your check downs, which is like the short pass, and don't wait for the long route to develop because you don't have time.

And you just eat up little chunks of yardage. And I think he started feeling pressure when he went down. He was like, no, we got to make it all up at once. And that's, he's young. So it's just the first time he's had a bad game. But that was something he fucked up. That was on him. So a lot of people look at this and they'll go,

this is the biggest loss of Patrick Mahomes' career in terms of his legacy. Yeah. Right? Because you let Tom get to seven and then you don't get that extra one earlier in career. Fair enough. I think that this will be the greatest thing

that ever happened to him. It could be. It could be. Because this will decide how great he will choose to be yeah was he great enough already and was that sufficient or is he willing to kick it up an extra gear yeah he saw what true greatness was in the same way that when canelo fought mayweather yeah and mayweather really took canelo to school i was at that fight it was unbelievable i watched it with your dad actually but it was like he was just i wasn't there no you were watching we just watched it yeah larry but he he was like you've never seen

so many sad mexicans in your entire life it's unbelievable it literally is on yeah fucking believable it was half the arena maybe 75 of the arena yeah silence canela couldn't land a fucking punch he was toying with canela mayweather was it was the i'm again no boxing expert that's the most impressive boxing display i've seen yeah it was just from a skill standpoint i was even like dude he doesn't he's having no problem i mean it was a joke yeah floyd and floyd knew he was gonna do that and that you know that floyd is the goat to me the goat of all goats to me but that's a different discussion you gotta really know boxing to understand it and whatever it doesn't matter but in terms of his dominance in a sport where it has maybe the most fragility of anything yeah like one punch ruins your record yeah 50 and 0

thought till he's 40 yeah one single punch you not moving your head a centimeter and it's lights out it's not football it's not basketball and having that type of longevity boxing in an elite way up to your 40 is harder to me than playing football in an elite way at 43 at 43 makes sense but close don't get me wrong but to see canelo make that change and use that to like inspire him yeah and be better and ultimately become the most dominant boxer of his generation now boxing isn't what it used to be it's kind of unfortunate maybe he doesn't have that superstardom here in america but still what he's done is unbelievable i wonder if patty mahomes takes that i think he will i think he will he's he's got the mentality or like uh he's got he's the closest to tom i've seen mentally i

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No, getting your sea legs. Getting my sea legs, whatever it is. I'm really excited, man. So we're going to Salt Lake. That's sold out. I think Funny Bone is sold out in Columbus, Ohio. But then we're all going to Nashville, Tennessee. That's March 26th and 27th. We'll be at Zany's. We're going to do April 2nd and 3rd. We'll be in Atlanta, Atlanta Comedy Theater. Then April 9th and 10th, we'll be at the Raleigh Improv.

Then we're going to be April 23rd and 24th, the Improv in West Palm Beach, Florida. And then May the 7th and 8th will be at stand up live in phoenix arizona and then may 14th and 15th we will be in uh the tampa improv shouts to tampa congratulations once again we got to get tom brady the goat out to those shows we appreciate you uh we love you for getting those tickets man and i'm very excited to get back on stage it's been like i don't know a year or something i'm excited feel good yeah i got on stage for the first time in a long time and it felt great great shout out to everybody in rhode island fucking great audience sold out before i even got there so that was fire amazing great weekend it

was so good to be back so good to be back well you got some more shows right yeah and then i'm gonna be march 4th through 6th helium in philly and march 16th through 18th helium in st louis so helium is back to back come through akash singh.com for tickets dang all right guys let's get back to the show god bless the goat tom brady i still can't give him the goat over jordan that's just not where i am but i i respect your say what adorable that you hold on to that no no you're being more objective than me and i admire your... It's adorable that you hold on to that. No, no. You're being more objective than me, and I admire your objectivity. He's on an emotional journey.

He's grieving. I don't own any of Brady's stuff. Like, I don't have Uggs. You know what I mean? I don't have a jersey. Tom Brady will never move culture. So maybe I'm attracted to the investment that I've made in Jordan.

Like, my sneakers are going to take a hit. A lot of things are taking a hit right now. You know? Same. So I can't really have have that right i've got backboards are depreciating right real talk you're losing all your investments i got jordan sneakers in stupid colors and i've had to buy specific clothing to go with because it's so odd you're on the short squeeze of jordan i really am so i don't want to believe it hold the line brady's wall street hold the fucking line brady's wall street bets and he's squeezing you bro you're fucked he really is he is though he looks like a hedge fund owner doesn't he this handsome fuck anyway um i admire your objectivity thank you dog

let's run around the room one last time uh mark even though you don't care about sports besides soccer brady or Jordan? Probably Brady. Wow. Alex? Jordan. Not even close? Not even close.

And what is the rationale? And I know this is going to sound fucked up. It would be really cool if he was like, oh, he's black. He's blacker than the other guy. I'm just one of those people that connect athleticism to the weight as well. That's the case. Why not go with Bo Jackson or something? Well, he hasn't won as much. But if you're going off athleticism.

No, and the win. And the win. And the rings. He weights more in favor of athleticism. Brady appears and presents so unathletic that it's hard to beg you're the greatest athlete of all time. Would you call him the greatest winner? You have to call him a better winner than Jordan. Yeah.

I mean, that's just statistically proven. Yeah, I can do that. But then we could also go back and say Bill Russell or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it would be like if Bill Russell had like 18 wins, where there's like no franchise that has as many wins as this player. That's crazy. You see what I'm saying?

I hear you. It's just a tricky one right yeah you're is it are we biased yeah yeah you guys so we're admitting our right now we are biased i think we're biased to like basketball more as a sport we both played it like yeah we know the difficulty in playing where we don't recognize it and you're a huge football fan but we don't recognize it as much in football because we never played football. So we're like, nah, we play this sport. It's hard.

This guy was the best at it. Therefore, he's the best ever. Yeah. And that's probably why I lean towards Mayweather because I have some experience boxing. Well, you have experience fighting. Yeah. And that's why I put Mayweather up there as well. Yeah.

I even put Mayweather over Brady also. I mean, Mayweather is my favorite. Yeah. But none of my favorite athletes growing up were athletic. They were like soccer players. They were not conventionally athletic in the way that basketball players are. Messi's a freak, but he's also 5'4". Leo Messi's like 5'6", or whatever.

Thierry Henry is like a skinny French dude. But I consider that athletic. They're still fast. Yeah, they're fast and they're agile, but they're not like LeBron James. You know what I mean? So that is the thing that's so confusing, right?

It's like, I don't know. To me, I know this sounds so weird, but I see Mayweather's dominance, and I liken that to LeBron. I know that sounds odd. We got some blinking lights over here. But I don't know. The way that LeBron can dominate a game physically, that's what Mayweather could do.

And I know that the way they play the game is different. Mayweather is so sleek and can adapt to whatever situation. LeBron just kind of enforces his will. It's just like he's this unbelievable, unstoppable force. And they're completely unalike, but their ability to dominate is similar. Can I throw

in another dominator just for the sake of your conversation? The big three of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic plus Serena Williams. Serena thing is so stupid. Serena's competition was not nearly what Federer and Nadal did. So put the other three guys

and go in with, I'm just saying, dominating individual sport athletes. Those guys, if you look at it like that. What's crazy about Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic, the three greatest players of all time

are all playing right now. All just competing. And the only reason Federer is losing more now is because he's the oldest. Djokovic will pass. I believe he'll pass them in more Grand Slam wins. But as a group, as a collective, like Murray had a piece of that for years.

But 17 years of pure dominance when millions of people around the world continue to play the sport. How do they keep winning? I want to know what that sauce is. Nobody cares about tennis, bro. I know this is fucked up, but in football,

you can get bailed out. Brady had a bad game, not the Super Bowl, but the game right before. He had a bad game and his defense bailed him out. He had a great first half. He actually won the game

at the end of the first half. But the second half. With three seconds left at your own 50 or six seconds, you throw a touchdown? You throw three picks. His defense luckily held up and that's why he also got them at 28 basketball no no no but he's making it i think take over a

game he's making a really good point which is like a lot of people make the argument that the buccaneers defense yeah should have been the mvp of that game yeah and i think you could give brady the mvp too i don't think it's that i don't think it's black and white. I think there's a lot of gray area with that decision, right? Like, the guy did throw three fucking touchdowns. Yeah. And they didn't have to do much after that. But in football, you can get bailed out and protected a lot easier. Here's what I would say about Brady, though.

Brady makes everyone on the team better in a different way than in basketball. Basketball, LeBron can get you in the perfect spot for a shot, et cetera. Brady is a culture, is what I keep saying because just having brady with you i got something for you i got something for you i got something for you one person can't affect the game in football like one person can affect the game in basketball right but one person can't affect the game negatively as much as one person can affect the game negatively in basketball oh yeah right so you could hide bums in football a little be easier they can get exposed don't get me wrong you got a bad corner you can expose them but you still got a safety that can help them out yeah in basketball you can get if you are whack they're gonna eat

you alive yeah i mean you see that times like um i'm trying to think uh the the golden state warriors would expose teams yeah when they went small ball yeah and then the centers just couldn't chase them around right so i'm just wondering who gives who is that an advantage to is that advantage to jordan knowing that each one of his teammates carries more weight? Does that mean that he had to do less? Or is that the advantage to Brady, knowing that not only can he not affect the game that much, but nobody around him can affect the game singularly that much?

Yeah, except him. He's the closest it comes to singular. That's why the quarterback is so important. That's the only position that touches the ball every offensive play. I don't know. The end of the discussion is really like Tom Brady has managed to change our idea of who the greatest ever was, at least in a discussion. Alan, you and I might not believe it, but we have to entertain the discussion if somebody comes up. Whenever people bring

up uh gretzky though it's always they're always it's like oh fuck that's really convincing like yeah his numbers are stupid right apparently even if you off of like the points in hockey is a goal or and an assist yeah and if you take away all of wayne gretzky's goals and just count as assists he still has more points than every other player in nhl history yeah like it's fucking crazy but it also makes me think like they didn't have athletes yet. Maybe. Do you know, like, some of these sports are still getting athletes?

Yeah. You know, like, Kelly Slater was, like, this, I don't know, 10-time or something like that, surf champion. But the greatest athletes don't surf. Right. Right? It's a random thing to become a surfer.

Yeah. It's like a bunch of, like, skateboard kids who decide to be in the water more than at the skate park. So they're not going to be as good. You're not going to have the super elites. And Kelly was probably one of those super elites that ended up surfing. Same thing with pools, right?

Like how many people have access to a fucking swimming pool and they end up being super fast swimmer is like Michael Phelps, the best swimmer. No, it would be LeBron. Yeah. Right. But Blacks, you know, but LeBron isn't going to be in the swimming pool because of economic reasons. Right. Same thing with golf.

Yeah. I don't know. You could apply that to anything, though. Usain Bolt. No, that's why I think Usain Bolt is the greatest athlete. Or I think he is because everybody's run 100 meters. And he's the fastest person to do it. Yeah.

He's competing against everyone. The global scale, like all these African dudes that didn't even have the chance to do it yeah he's competing against everyone the global scale like all these like african dudes that didn't even have the chance to like do anything but they could run 100 meters they probably ran 100 meters way more than most yeah maybe but then they gotta get noticed they have to like get into a system if you run 100 meters fast fast you'll get noticed there's an nfl scout watching you get chased by a cheetah they You're like, I think this guy can return some points. For real. I'm just saying that seems to me to be the most basic

version of it. Basics are fighting and running. Fighting, running. If you're seven feet tall, they're going to find you. The Greek Olympic sports or whatever. Those are the most basic ones. Wrestling, running. Throwing something. Anyone can do it no

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