Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - True Geordie CALLS OUT Andrew Tate

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

00:00 - start 08:11 - “Last Breath” - Geordie's past with Deep sea diving 13:38 - Scottish Women are respectable lasses 18:08 - Logan Paul beef and reconciling 26:49 - UK needs Big Bottomed Latinas 33:23 - Loch Ness Monster IS real 33:58 - Andrew finally respects India and their protests 39:00 - YouTuber boxing 47:52 - Respect & having crazy Money 54:47 - Joe Rogan + handling fame now 01:07:40 - American Podcasters are weird 01:10:25 - Turning off comments and engagement 01:16:54 - Podcasts are the most fun 01:21:14 - Ricky Gervais is a genius 01:34:20 - Only the talentless do Onlyfans 01:38:08 - Andrew Tate - THIS IS WILD 01:45:08 - Cancellation + Resilience 01:57:28 - Tommy, Tyson and Daddy Fury 02:01:09 - Oleksandr Usyk might be that guy 02:07:22 - True Geordie’s podcast suggestions

What's the origin of your back and forth with Andrew Tate? This is a guy who missed a few hugs of his mother. I mean, there's videos of him slapping women around online. I couldn't give a shit about Andrew Tate. Would you box him? Yeah, he'd come up to me in my face. I would absolutely punch him in the face. But am I going to make effort to go running every morning?

No. I don't care. It comes to me, I've got a business to run. I'm not going to take time out to worry about Andrew Tate. I'm not like him. I'm not daddy's little rich boy. I've got to earn my shit to get here as well. Oh, did he come from money? Oh, he come from money. No way. I'm not just talking about I'm not daddy's little rich boy. I got to earn my shit to get here as well. Oh, did he come from money?

Oh, he come from money. No way. I'm not just talking about the human trafficking money that he's got either. I'm talking about, this will keep him going for another four f***ing years. Don't worry, you guys are going to be best friends in like two years. Yeah, I'll be making money off of his f***ing dumps as well. So, Andrew, you're fighting Floyd Mayweather. I'm joking. I'm joking.

To be fair, Battle of the Rapists, him and Floyd, that will be for a good one. To be fair. What of the rapist, Simon Floyd. That would be for a good one. To be fair. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Today, we're with the undisputed king. The undisputed king of podcasting,

especially out here in the UK, but I know he wants to go for the crown globally. Give it up for True Geordie. We got True Geordie in the building. Cheers, Artie.

First of all, we're so stoked that you made the time for us. When we decided to come out, you were the first person we wanted to sit down with. I just want to let you know. Talking to you. Absolutely. Yeah, I love what you're doing. I think it's amazing.

And I think that there's something that's very unique that's happening with you. And we were talking about it a little bit before where it seems like every time you rip someone apart, you build like a friendship with and then make a lot of money from. So I don't like that we're starting out on such a good foot. No, it's a shame, right? We would have a good beef. We would. It would have made a good one. Yeah.

I wouldn't want to go head to head with you, though, because I watched your bit on Will Smith and I was like like this was we were all sitting around watching this in the studio we were like me like this is like a year of material just 10 minutes you just did it they just dropped it out there at the start i was like you're just showing off now i gotta give credit though it's good thank you man thank you but you have this this interesting thing with these people you beef with like obviously not beef with but like that you were upset at. Like, the Logan thing. I look back at that. We were talking earlier about the first rant that you did against Nile Ranger.

Which is an awesome name, by the way. Yeah, amazing name. Sick. I thought it was a nickname. Also, go watch that rant right now, everybody that's watching. And, like, even if, I'm sure a lot of you know True Geordie. If you don't, just watch it. Explain, at this point, you were just a fan.

You're just a guy. Of football. I had no YouTube thing. So I was working offshore. I was a deep sea diver offshore. So I had a proper job. Just crazy. Can I say one thing?

I knew that you weren't doing video yet because you were like, and I'm done, whatever. And then the video stayed on a little bit. You had to press the space bar. it was like the total like dad video so this is the weird thing was uh so newcastle is the football team i support in the uk and we one of my very good friends had recently passed away he died right dark dark moment but you know it was it was you know when you go to someone's funeral and you're thinking about them and everything that they were about and the whole funeral was about how much he loved this football club so then you've got this guy who plays for us

who's like bitching and whining about the fans i'm like just it's like within the week of and i was like it's now you're getting it the day like so i fucking pressed this button as hard as i could you know and i'm like i hope you're better because he day. Like, so I fucking pressed this button as hard as I could, you know? And I'm like, I hope you're better. Because he was taking pictures of himself holding a gun like a gangster rapper. And we don't really have that in the UK. Like, people, this is unusual to see. Because he's, you know, to be fair, he's from the hood. I get that and fair play to him.

But at that moment, I was like, I hope you're better at shooting the gun than you are the football because you're fucking shit. You're fucking useless. Yo, you know who got it almost worse than him in that video? The two football clubs? Yeah, Brighton. And then Hoyland or something like that? Brighton and Hoyland.

I was like, you can't even fucking do well against this team. I just went after him. It was the same two teams over and over again. And they were just getting these shots. It was like, you went up against Brighton and Hoyland like they're still professional football clubs

they're all working hard trying to feed their families he's like fuck all of them those poor guys they got caught in the crossfire but this was the way I think about Niall was Niall

he had so much talent but he's like one of those guys who was surrounded by dickheads and then years later he rings me. He's like, bro, I kind of get a job.

I need to change how people see me because he'd been fired from that many clubs for being a bit of a dickhead. And he was like, look, can you come and help me out, change my image? And I was like, I kind of owe him. Because that was what launched me. His failure launched your career.

100%. And by that point, so when i started he had like 40k followers and i had none yeah and now he's like coming around to the pod and i'm like it's a bit awkward this yeah yeah yeah yeah because i had like a couple of million by that point and uh but like i felt sorry for him more than anything because what happened on the pod when you guys spoke finally he was actually humble like he was he was a cool guy actually and i just think like how many kids get too much too soon like that he was just humble like he was he was a cool guy actually and I just think like how many kids

get too much too soon like that's he was just that guy yeah but it's sad because he's just wasted his talent

yeah you know what I mean you were saying something interesting before the pod which is like in football your football

soccer for everybody watching back home a young talent will be like kind of I don't want to say. Oh,

wrapped up in cotton wool. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And it's to benefit the team because the club is going to put

so much money into it at like a very young age. Like we've, we've heard back home, the stories of Messi, right? Like, and I think like Messi's family

sold him into sexual slavery at like nine years old. That's actually not true. What? No, I thought that he was. No, no, no. He went to a youth academy.

He could have made a lot of money. What is a youth academy? I saw this movie that your ass punched in by like different people. And they make you great. You live there. And then. They were injecting Messi with like human growth hormone. Oh, human growth hormone.

So this is how like. They were looking after this guy. So he would have been shorter? Oh, yeah. He's been on the growth hormone I heard this I thought there was

a rumor so he was like he was really talented but so tiny and they basically put HGH absolutely that's all true

yeah why the fuck did I have it yeah I mean if you look at Cristiano Ronaldo I was just saying you would be a soccer fiend

the best unofficial drug culture in football like if you look at our soccer players now like Cristiano Ronaldo he is chiseled from stone so hot

and nobody's wondering like yeah do we want to start really drug testing these guys because you know in the NFL they've had that moment

yeah it's sort of you know what what it's unspoken about but like so there is like steroids and shit oh there must be he's 38 years old and he's still scoring 20 goals know, it's unspoken about. But like, how is this guy? There is like steroids and shit.

Oh, there must be. He's 38 years old and he's still scoring 20 goals a season. That's never happened in the history of football before. So that's some people are talking about that bit with like LeBron. There's always the conversation like, yeah, you got to be on some shit. Must be. Yeah, he's 38. Yeah.

I mean, I'm 38 and I can't have like four tequilas. Yeah, I mean, you just said that beforehand. It's like a big fucking headache for me. before the hungover. Dude, it's humbling, dude. I'm out and I'm not even drunk and I still had, I was like hungover

at the fucking club. It was really bad. And there's, yeah, dude, yeah, it's bad. You went up to the DJ and asked him to turn it down. He did. I'm being serious.

It's too dark here. Wow. Turned into like an old Jewish man. But yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, okay. So then Nigel comes on the pod. Niall, yeah. Niall. Yeah, I okay. So Nigel comes on the pod. Niall, yeah. Niall.

Yeah, I'm just combining his names. All British people are named Nigel. So he comes on the pod and then what happens? I wished him well afterwards. I was like, I hope that helps because he basically admitted like, yeah, I fucked it right up for myself.

Ah, shit. But he ended up just going back down the leagues and still trying, I think. Oh, he's still playing? Yeah, but it hasn't, but he ended up just going back down the leagues and still trying I think is he playing yeah but it hasn't it's like complete like he was on the

fucking he was the trajectory was so good for him and now he's never been back to the Premier League yeah yeah not even playing

for Brixton Brighton no not Brighton but like I wish him well but it's sometimes like, you get that one chance as a kid

and if you fuck it when you're in your early 20s, you never get it again. You know, there's a documentary on Netflix. I don't know if you saw it, but about a dude who was doing the deep sea diving shit. Oh yeah, yeah.

I know that guy. Get the fuck out of here. I don't know him personally, but I've got one of my best friends who i work with is very good friends with him was that your job last breath yes you were one of those yep okay i'm gonna briefly summarize what happened this documentary tell me if i'm fucked up okay they are diving i already i already fucked it up

this guy's had one sip of his drink. I fucked it up. I fucked it up. Where are they diving, bro? Okay, so they're in the North Sea, off of Scotland, basically. It's fucking horrible. It's freezing cold. Scotland sucks, dude.

Nothing to do with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth about my people. What are they diving for? Scotland, there's more rain in Scotland probably than anywhere else in the world. That sounds fun.

That sounds fun. That's fire. When I did my diving course, we had a guy from New York there who was a former Marine. And he's walking up the pier with me and the rain is smashing him in the face. And I'm looking, I'm going,

this is shit, isn't it? And he's like, man, this fucking place is hell on earth. Welcome to Scotland, boy. What are you diving for in Scotland? What do you even get? Like what's in the North Sea? So they're basically where the oil comes from, basically.

In Ireland? Yeah, we got the oil. I mean, my people. So yeah, they're diving off the coast, and they're basically pressurized for a whole month, so they live in a tiny bell, that's what they call it, basically, where they go out into another bell, they get lowered down, do their bit,

12-hour shift for the day, come back up, sleep. And they put this guy out there, and the boat, what keeps the boat in place so that the divers can stay on the job, failed. Because it's not anchors. So the boat is getting pushed by the current by the storm yeah and uh the diver's uh umbilical cord which is what gives him his hot water is uh breathing everything gets wrapped around something snaps and he's just left for dead so keep that in mind

it's not like diving has we we'd see people do with this big fucking tank no they're hooked up because they're so far down yeah So it's not like air diving where you can go to like 50 meters. You go around, you have a look at a nice little bit of fish and a bit of fucking treasure or whatever. Like this is like, you are there to live there

underwater for about a month. Yeah. So yeah, he was, he was so far down. It was like, just so fucked. Yeah.

Is it like a mini submarine? Like a very small thing? They pressurize and then they just leave you down there. You live in that pressurized environment for a month. You're breathing helium as well so your voice is squeaky as fuck for a whole month. That's how bad Scotland is. They'd rather live underground than in the water.

But these guys are making about a thousand pounds a day these guys are making to do this shit. And that's what you were doing? Well, I wasn't doing it quite as deep as what they... I didn't go as deep as them if you know what i mean but yeah it basically the same job as them yeah yeah okay so the guy's umbilical cord gets snapped yep it tied around something snaps he client he's completely lost you can't see any of you can't see you know it's black black yeah right um he finds he just gets lucky, walks back to the oil extraction site.

Basically, yeah, the job that he was on, yeah. Finds a way to climb up it. Again, you can't see anything. You can't even see your hand in front of you. Just lays down on top of it. Runs out of oxygen, runs out of warmth, right? It's freezing down there. And pressure too, right?

Well, I guess he's already pressurized. He's alright because he's pressurized, but he's basically not breathing anything. I don't know. Didn't breathe for 30 minutes. 30 minutes he didn't breathe? I don't think that's possible. Because you're not Scottish. We don't need oxygen, bro.

We don't fucking need oxygen. How long can you hold your breath for? We're different, bro. That nose? I take bro. That nose. We're different. We're not an air. You can take him, bro. I take one.

30 minutes. That's it. I got 30 minutes worth of oxygen right there. We won't be able to breathe if you do two of those. That's true. You got to be careful. You got to be fucking careful. Take the room up.

Facts. Okay. So you've been down there. Yep. Okay. For how long? Sometimes I was doing a few hours. But you wouldn't do the month straight no so mine was a lot more like um uh it was like air diving instead of sat diving so there's two

basically it depends on what you're what you're breathing but so like i would be like it was like fucking miserable yeah if i'm honest like there was days where so i'm underwater and i'm like using like pressurized hoses where i'm blasting concrete off of their piles underwater that uh like keep the um the pier up for example to uh like basically repair a pier that's old and fucked yeah and then you're getting out and you're surrounded by like military guys and i was like a young kid i just wanted to go out meet women drink and uh and to be fair a young kid I just wanted to go out meet women drink and uh and to be fair a lot of the guys were like that but like you're looking around and like they're like 40 odd year old guys who are doing like coke in Viagra like yeah it was wild yeah

so it taught me a lot about life did you did you get into those habits I didn't get into necessarily those habits but I was definitely I was running as fast as I could to keep up with everything that they were telling me to do. You know what I mean? I was just shagging everything I could. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And that was the first time I had money as well. Scottish lasses?

Yeah. Yeah. How is that? Scottish lasses are wild. They're wild, right? They're fucking mental. Wild like wolves that have just been left out. Like, before you even had a first date,

send you a picture of... Pussy, right? No, a dildo in her arse and a dildo in her pussy. And be like... Oh, so they're all like big whores, like every woman? Why would you say that? See how they're talking about my mom? They're talking about my fucking mom dude

my mom left there bro I'm sorry that's why yeah I was in the stab capital of Europe as well like the worst place for stabbings where

near Glasgow it was oh yeah yeah yeah that's where my mom's from you think they think they're doing you a favor when they try to kill you in Scotland

like let's get you out of this place let's just get you out of this mess no but my mom left. My mom doesn't know what a fucking dildo is either. I would never

disrespect your mom. I would disrespect your heritage. No, my heritage, maybe you can go out, but I know that my mom specifically has no

fucking clue what a dildo is. Have you been back to Scotland? Say again? I went there, yeah. Yeah, a bit of the old

Braveheart. Yeah, I went, I saw my people, I know what my clan is about, I know what they stand for. They fuck sheep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No my people. I know what my clan is about. I know what they stand for. They fuck sheep.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, we don't fuck them. We stole them. And what we do with our stolen sheep is none of your fucking business. Maybe you got confused on a Scottish woman, had a little sex. Well, that's the thing. You know, once you've tried Scottish, I've never, I've only been in a Scottish pussy one time. What do you think? And I don't remember much of it,

but I was there for a while, so I must have liked it. You're like a deep-sea diver. You were in there just fucking hanging out. Pressurized. But yeah, so I think Scottish women are absolutely beautiful, and maybe they're an acquired taste for you guys. Do you know what I'm saying? Better than Indian women.

They won't take any shit. They don't take shit, do they? You've got gotta be careful they will like cause I did try a Viagra off one of those old guys yeah yeah

and he was like about half an hour beforehand just take this now I'm in my early 20s I don't need Viagra yeah what the fuck was he doing giving me Viagra

yeah I literally put a shift in on her to a point where the next morning I put a shift in lads alright so I do I put pressure on her

the next morning and obviously we've got to get changed in front of each other and literally right my back you ever seen Silence of the Lambs where the fingernails

are still in the bricks my back was like that the boys were like what the fuck happened I went he gave us a fucking Viagra that's what happened I couldn't come

I was going for like nine hours or something. Hours, dude. We were having a cup of teas in between. That's Scottish women, dude. That's Scottish women for you. They love a Viagra in your cup of tea. Yeah, but they like it.

They like dick, right? Oh, yeah. My mom would have sex a lot with my dad. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many kids did she end up with? Well, just two. Just two?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they would have like sex for not kids a lot. Ooh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sex for not kids. That's wild. Sex for not, yeah. So she just loved it, dude.

Really? Did you hear it? You ever walk in? All the time. Wow. Yeah, yeah. They're loud, dude. Scottish women are fucking loud, right?

I can actually verify that. That's one thing I can't verify. She said shit a lot. Oh, shit. Shit. I was like, fucking hell. Tell me. I'm going to fucking die here me fucking hard-ons

fucking killing me right now honestly yeah dude my dad would say the same shit bro why were you into why were you deep sea diving like why

why was that career path number one I found a video on YouTube and I'd I'd done engineering beforehand and they were like yo

if you're an engineer you can make a fuck ton of money by doing this underwater because it's basically danger money and I seen that and I was like if you're an engineer you can make a fuck ton of money by doing this underwater because it's basically danger money and I seen that and I was like well I'm not making good money

on fucking land so go on then and yeah I just tried it out wow yeah wild engineering

what kind of engineering I was mechanical engineering smart motherfucker not really no engineering is fucking hard any engineering except software.

That's for sure. I was pretty dumb in the class. Yeah, but. Okay, so then you continued your, and I don't want to call them beefs because I think there are certain people, podcasters that beef for clout. Oh, I'm not H3 Podcast, for example.

Okay. Okay. Right, because if you can create content that people enjoy, right, you don't need to beef for clout. I don't actually, actually no i just want to talk about what's happening yeah i want people to leave me alone i don't want to do this it literally felt genuine yeah i think you just want to be honest and say your feelings on people and

things and i think that's why it's easier to reconcile yeah exactly because your anger was authentic yes you were you were hurt by a situation and then once you share that with somebody you go okay i see why you felt this way you weren't using me for clicks yep do you know what i'm saying yeah i said that to logan i don't know if you uh seen the video where i was about to bring up logan so how did that happen so you come out logan logan did that video what logan did the video what was the issue with the video that you had uh so there was the japan video which i know a lot of people hate it but i so long story short i found someone dead like that before in japan uh not in japan wasn't exactly the same but um so when i seen the video it was like 6 a.m obviously he they'd released it at u.s time

and i'm waking up in the uk like so i just check on what's on twitter and then obviously it happened i didn't know who logan. Didn't have a clue, which was verified because there was a podcast beforehand where I was like, never heard of this guy. I don't know who he used to talk about when other people were mentioning him. Right. And yeah, I just was like,

it just triggered me in the biggest way, you know, because he, he was just a young, immature kid who was making light of a situation that I was like, you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about here yeah and clearly he missed the mark obviously the whole world knows that and uh when i'm talking about him and i'm talking about what he's doing and all that towards the end i start talking about all the kids who message me who've had mental health issues and

and before i know it like i'm fucking crying like i'm actually like yeah like it's all fucking happening there you know what I mean and then in the end I was like fuck me I just because I'd actually edited out bits where I was like I want to fucking punch the fuck out of you you little prick you know like because I thought it's not really going to play in my favor if I'm threatening violence

yeah yeah yeah and then I uploaded it and that was the video that I think put me onto another level I got 200,000 that was the video that I think put me onto another level. I got 200,000 subscribers in 24 hours. Just from that video? In one day. Fuck me.

Yeah, so that was when I was like, wow, this. So it's probably a lot of people shared that frustration, and you were able to articulate it in a way, and it's like, yo, this guy is saying. In a genuine way. I think that's where I've nailed certain things before, where people feel what I'm feeling, but I can just say it in a way that just rounds it up nicely. When we were doing those videos during the pandemic, we did these like turn your phone videos. I don't know if you ever saw those, right? And I think we were kind of doing a very similar thing. It's like people felt a certain way

about what was happening culturally or politically. And we were able to like slice it thin and articulate it to the point where they felt safe sharing because sometimes it's scary to say an opinion especially in you know that's what you do fantastically well you nail it but it's also it's a responsibility that we now have when we have these platforms to kind of say what other people want to say but can't quite nail it in the with a gift that you have and the gift that you guys have like it's hard but I didn't really do it for that reason

at the time I was like I'm just fucking raging right now yeah I think it would be a funny prank though if there was someone who did want to kill themselves

to like just do it in the back of one of Logan's videos bro like as if that boy hasn't been through enough right now

but like he didn't know it and you just happened to be in the back right you're gonna do it anyway and you just happened to be in the back. Right? Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're saying you're going to do it anyway. If you're already going to do it, which you shouldn't,

you should absolutely not do it. And I think you should talk to somebody if you feel like absolutely 100%. Here's the hotline. Call right now. It's on the video. Call right here. But if you still, after calling,

were like, no, this is the right decision. I'm committed. Exactly. Find where they're doing impulsive. I mean, in America, it's bound to happen at some point. You know what I mean? You guys have shootings regularly. Is that crazy to you guys?

Yeah, we think you guys are all fucking crazy. No, no, it's normal to them. Especially school. That's a dumb question. I don't know. Like, is it? Hey, is Matt killing crazy? Yeah.

You've never been in class and you're just like, fuck everyone. Like, you never had that feeling? This is the thing. I'm really glad that we didn't have guns when I was in class. you're just like, fuck everyone. Like you never had that feeling? This is the thing. I'm really glad that we didn't have guns when I was in class. Because it would have went down. I think I would have been the one of the guys who was looking it up. But you're like, all right. Dude, I saw a funny story.

You got suspended or something for like pissing on the window of like the teacher's lounge? You did your research. Yeah. Yeah. I was like 10 years old and I ran up to my teacher's lounge and You did your research. Yeah. Yeah. I was like 10 years old and I ran up to my teacher's lounge and I was like pissing on the window and flipping them.

And then... So imagine you had an AK, bro. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. I had major problems back then. A lot of testosterone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A lot of spots on my face and that, you know what I mean? It wasn't good. But then you see these young YouTube guys, I don't know if you've seen any of these guys, before they flip. Yeah. And they're like, I don't know why women don't want to But then you see these young YouTube guys. I don't know if you've seen any of these guys before they flip. And they're like, I don't know why women don't want to have sex with me. I'm charismatic.

You've seen these guys. These incels. Yeah, yeah. They are terrifying. Yeah, go to Scotland. There you go. Go to Scotland. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Don't need to get a gun out. Just go to Scotland. Yeah. So what do we do with these incels? If they're like on YouTube being like, yeah, why does no one like me? What's the remedy for that? They genuinely freak me the fuck out though. Like they are all the same.

They make so many warning videos. I'm like, why wasn't, just send it to the cops. Yeah. It's so fucking weird. Like, I'm going to show you all. I'm going to show you next week when I kill everybody. Oh, really? Then you'll respect me.

Oh, really? That's what they say. Can I say something? You have a good American accent, and I just realized when you were imitating an incel that you have a really good American accent. You can play an incel. There you go.

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Yeah, big, like huge thick women. You like thick women? I know I like this guy. What do you mean you like this guy? I want something that other men go, don huge, thick women. You like thick women. I know I like this guy. Yeah, yeah. What do you mean you like this guy? I want something that other men go, don't know about that. Like, I want that. Really? Yeah, I want a challenge.

Why is that? I don't know. I just think with a normal-sized woman, it's quite easy for me to sort of do what I want. Oh, so you want a girl to fight back a little bit? Not fight. Let's not get that out of the way. Let's not get that out of the way.

Hold on. You're speaking our guy's language. Calm fight. Let's not get that out of the way. You're speaking our cost is language. There's no hands raised here. You know what I'm saying? I just mean a little bit of a challenge. You know what I mean? This sounds the same both times. I want you to know that you said the same thing twice.

You've got to push past a few inches of cheeks just to make it to the hole. I don't want to feel like it's just... Why? You got a piece on you? Is that what you're saying? No, I'm not suggesting that. I mean, if people want to surmise that, that's up to them.

But... What do you have? I think it's quite average, if I'm honest with you. It's average. It's average on you? Because that's still probably fucking... That's the thing, right? You've made a fucking good point there.

Because I've been thinking that for years, right? I've been thinking that for years. Hey, you know what? I've been thinking about your dick since you sat down. It's a letdown. This is the thing, right? It's like if you have a huge house with a big garage and then you have a normal sized car. It looks small, doesn't it?

It looks weird, right? So like if you don't have a Range Rover, people are like, this is not right. So that's all I'm going to say. Yeah, my balls have been growing lately. I might have some issue there. What happened with that? I don't know. Our balls keep growing, but our dick doesn't. You feel that as well. I thought my dick was shrinking.'m going to say. Yeah, my balls have been growing lately. I might have some issue there. What happened with that? I don't know. How come our balls keep growing, but our dick doesn't?

You feel that as well. I thought my dick was shrinking. I swear to God. I thought my dick was getting smaller. And I almost Googled it. And I was like, can dicks get smaller? I thought there was a pill I was taking or something like that. What is the answer to that, Google?

Say again? What is the answer to that? Well, I almost did because I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to know the answer. But I think my balls are getting bigger. And I think that's the thing you're talking about. You're a big guy. Even if you have a regular-sized dick,

it's going to look small, dude. That's it. That's why women think these short, skinny dudes have huge dicks. Because they're just short and skinny. It's a backdrop, man. Yeah. The fuck is... Holy shit, that's a great point.

Now, what about a big one of these... Say again? I've been stitched up in life. You got circumcised. No, I'm not. But, like, all of this... Wait, do you have the hood? stitched up in life. You got circumcised. No, but I'm not. Do you have the hood? Do you have everything? You got the foreskin?

Nobody touched up my dick when I was born or since then in that way. Is that weird? Get out of here. You might connect. I've got a sensitive penis unlike you circumcised fella. I'm sensitive too. You don't even know what pleasure feels like. You don't even know what pleasure feels like, dude. You don't even know what pleasure feels like.

It's that moment when it first goes in, man. Yeah, we have that too. No, they're not the same. What do you think yours is like? Because your dick's been bashing around on stuff unprotected, man. Mine's bulletproof. You really think? Absolutely.

It's a sign. I can't argue with science. Hold on, when you pull it back to pee, are you like nutting at the urinal? Sometimes. It just feels so good. Only if you just tap. If I look over, then maybe. What's the quickest you can manage to nut?

That I can come? Yeah. Man or woman? Either. Okay. Woman? If you're on your own. What about if you're on your own?

Oh, dude. I've come before I'm fully hard. I honestly look at it. That's a good one, right? I nut. It's under own? Oh, dude, I've come before I'm fully hard. I honestly look at it. That's a good one, right? It's underrated. Dude, dude, and it's still going up. I'm like, you don't even understand what happened. No, it's on the way.

You fake the throw and he's like, where'd it go? You already have a bet. Dude, that's how fast, bro. That's how fast. I can get it out quick. Yeah, I like those ones when you're not fully hard. Yeah, why do you like them? Don't efficiency you like efficiency yeah yeah it's also like a little bit lazy as well i guess yeah i feel like a psychopath yeah yeah when i when i can not not fully hard i'm like no this isn't wrong with me dude you know you have nerve endings in your

foreskin that a doctor got rid of and threw in the garbage why do people do do people do that? Why do people think you threw it in the garbage, dude? Well, where did he? He didn't. Well, we eat it, obviously. We're fucking Native Americans. Yeah. Wait, what? Did you watch that documentary on Netflix?

You gotta use every part of the buffalo. He made a macaroni out of it? Yes, dude. A calamari. Oh, okay. Did you watch that documentary on Netflix where the doctor was like, yeah, I'm taking semen from these people. And it was just the doctor's cum the whole time.

Baby God, yeah. and he impregnated all those fucking women that's crazy wait wait wait what is this so you know women who are going through issues with fertility

and then he gave them what they want so they all went to this doctor who was the best in the business yeah yeah in vitro meanwhile

he was going into his office knocking one out putting it in and he was like yep got this sample from one of our guys and he was telling them that.

Can I just play devil's advocate for a second? Turns out the whole fucking city is related to this guy. Can I just play devil's advocate for one second? I'm probably with you. They're going to have doctor sperm. Yes. Yeah, but a doctor that thinks he can lie to women's sperm.

So that's good. Every man lies to women. You need your kids to figure that out. What do you think about doctor sperm is so good? It's a doctor. I think it's better than... You want an Indian guy's sperm? Really?

I don't know. He wasn't Indian. What was he? Just Caucasian dude, but he was ugly as well. So a lot of his kids were ugly. But he must have been smart as fuck to be a white doctor.

He also pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. He pregnant a city. There was over 50 kids by the end of it. They were fighting each other through ancestry. They were like out fucking, they could have been shagging each other or anything.

Do you call it pulling the wool over your eye when you put the skin back? Yeah, that's the one. Gotcha. Okay. Now, this guy, while I think he's bad, maybe he justified it by going, listen, I'm going to put this high IQ cum

in these women who are having difficulty getting pregnant. Okay, so I think there was an element of white supremacy in there as well. Talk to me. Because towards the end, it was like, he was a very religious man. He was like, shock. Which religion? He was Christian. Catholic?

I think so. And he was a... Protestant. Yeah. Catholic makes the most sense. Catholic, huh? Yeah. Catholic, huh? I'm not pointing at that. Don't point that at me in England. Dude. and he was a Protestant Catholic makes the most sense Catholic huh yeah Catholic huh

I'm not pointing that come on don't point that at me in England dude his hair is unbelievable by the way thank you dude dude you gotta see it

when it's pulled back it looks like my foreskin it's crazy it's really sweet I've never seen I like it you like that hair though right yeah

that's nice dude yeah okay reminding him some Scottish women he's back in the day. Those lovely curly locks. We love it. Scottish women

really getting it up the ass in this one. They like getting it up the ass. You think the Loch Ness Monster is just a girl that is taking a swim in Scotland?

Oh, gosh. You cannot say that. That is crazy what you just said right there. Someone should look that up. That's interesting. Do you think that's possible? Do you believe

in the Loch Ness Monster? He had sex with her for multiple times. Yeah, a few of them. Did you hear about that? They say that that could have been a real thing. Yes, I saw this in the news. There's a new article come out, basically. They say it was an old dinosaur that likely just died.

Yeah. I mean, me and my people believe in it, yeah. Yeah, your people. Me and my people believe. I mean, I went to it. Why is that so hard to believe? Sons of Scotland. Yeah. believe. I mean, I went to it. Why is that so hard to believe? Sons of Scotland. Yeah.

Yeah. Clan Cameron, dude. We were actually the, before we were the sheep thieves and the Queen's Guard, we were the keepers of the lock. Oh, really? You were the Queen's Guard? You cuck. Son.

You fucking cuck. This guy thinks because he's Indian, they got their independence by not eating, that he's some fucking brave guy. Like, you didn't fight for shit. Pretty brave. No, dude. There's no line with you. Have you seen you without food for six hours?

You're such a bitch. You're such a bitch. Yo, hold on. You're such a bitch. Can I be honest with you? I need to eat something. If I don't eat something, I'm going to lose my fucking mind.

That's him after four hours. Never have I had more respect for India than the point you just made right now. Dude, what they did is so much easier than just shooting people. Yeah. Not eating. That is the ultimate bravery.

Especially as a man. You're just fucking losing your mind, dude. Dude. That is crazy. Indian women are good looking. Oh, yeah. There you go. Oh, yeah.

You don't really feel that way? Oh, really? I do, yeah. Wait, really? Yeah. Oh, shit. Did you get in trouble or something? No, but some of them are, like... Some of them? Some of them are. Don't you think the guys Wait, really? Yeah. Oh, shit. Did you get in trouble or something? You have to say that? Some of them are like.

Some of them. Some of them are. Don't you think the guys are better looking? Nah. Nah. Now you know he's just saying it. Now you know he's just saying it. Bollywood actresses are hot.

Come on, dude. Come on. There's no fucking way. He's never seen that. You got to show him your cousin. This guy is so fucking good looking. I went to his wedding with my wife. I would have left my wife at his wedding

for just show the picture but make sure you show the one with the eyes with the eyes oh my god the eyes are unbelievable I feel like you've used

this photograph I've got plenty of times he's here right um he is here can we get him no he left today he left today

and then can we tie him up and use his hole jeez what no what it's payback dude it's payback it's payback for what I call it here I call it here No, he left today. He left today. And then can we tie him up and use his hole? Jeez. What? No. What? Payback, dude. It's payback, dude.

It's payback for what he does. I call it here. I call it here. I call it here. Why are you showing them? Like, they don't know what he looks like. Make an objective and find the best picture. Why don't we show True Geordie?

Every picture, bro. Because I want to find the best picture. Every picture. You know what I mean? To show Geordie. Oh, yeah. That's a handsome bloke, dude. It's the stare

He also doesn't look that Indian Honestly that's not even That's the most attractive part This is not even Honestly this is not even the best looking picture You don't even get to see how blue the eyes are That's what I'm saying find a good picture Okay I'm going to find a good picture

But I mean he's horrible at taking pictures Or maybe I was just seduced by something else Because and find a good picture. Okay, I'm going to find a good picture. But, I mean, he's horrible at taking pictures. Or maybe I was just seduced by something else. Because now you're flipping on him? That's fucked up. I mean... We should just take a break right now and let you finish off. Let me just get this out of the system.

Here we go. I mean, look. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he got it. He's not right now. He's not fully hot. How did we get into this? Big Blue Latinas? Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got it. He's not right now. He's not fully hot. How did we get into this? Big Blue Latinas?

Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got to go to the States for that. Yeah, they don't have them in this country, unfortunately. Yo, where do you go for ass here in Europe? It's not. It just doesn't exist. Spain, apparently.

They got a little bit. Can we ask you a question? Because I went to Barcelona once. They're fucking everywhere, though. I like this guy. Unbelievable. I like this guy. This is the solution, actually.

What if, like, the migrant crisis in the US that everyone talks about, all these conservatives, blah, blah, blah. Oh, they're busted migrants, whatever, whatever. We put them on a plane, bring them to England, and then they can get into the population and then make big booty English people.

Mark, you know this for a fact, that Mexican women are not known for their asses. Well, they're they're not no where do the latinas come from with the asses what no no latinas and mexican women with asses are very different the asses that the latinas have that you're probably thinking about this is puerto rico dominican republic venezuela brazil colombia how do we get a migrant crisis with them we gotta do that yeah that yeah we need that I mean they would need more like boats and that kind of stuff

to get here but Mexican women are not known for their their shape but it would be a step up for you know England maybe it really would be

can we talk about more of his beefs yes yes yes yes so you had Logan Logan and then you guys reconciled you guys reconciled

because Logan reached out well yeah yeah because I made that I made another video where basically he he came after me after I was the one who basically reminded KSI, you got to call someone out, remember? Because I was basically the guy who prompted KSI.

I was interviewing him after his fight and I went, don't forget, you were supposed to call out Logan Paul because he'd mentioned it beforehand to me being like, don't let me forget this because he was all hyped you know and that and then logan remembered that i'd made the original video on him and he was like let me get him back for that you know called me the white dj colors but yeah and then i did my other video back to him because i was like i just called up the boys and i was like right we, we got the million subscriber. It's happened because I knew I was going to do a fire video back to him. And then he rang me up.

He was like, that was pretty good. Fair play. And he was so cool about it. He appreciates content. No, he knows what he's doing. So then I was like, when you come to the UK, we'll get you on the podcast. But he did a video with Casey Neistat where Casey had went in on him right afterwards and he didn't really give him

a chance to talk and Casey just annihilated him on that video and I was like, okay, I'll give you an actual chance here and then that was when, I think he respected that,

you know what I mean? So that went well. Beef-wise, I don't know, who else has there been? Wait, but how much did Logan pay you for you to say

that he won three rounds against Mayweather? You like that, right? How much did he pay you? it depends say that he won three rounds against Mayweather? You like that, right? How much did he pay you? It depends on what you're classing as winning rounds. I class it as outpunching your opponent. What are you classing it as? No, but you actually have to, like, connect.

He can throw a lot of punches, but if they're not hitting anything. Mayweather did his thing where, you know, he didn't do a great deal because he was waiting for Logan to do what Conor McGregor did, which is tire out. And then he started walking him down and Mayweather just couldn't hurt him that was the problem

it's not about hurting it's about to connect more like Mayweather had more shots that he actually why are you bothered about it no I feel like you're a bit bothered

yeah what difference does it make to you whether Logan took runs off Mayweather you're a truth teller and I was like I've never seen the table flipped on out like that why are you so bothered, wow, it's the first time he lied.

Why are you so bothered about it? It's the first time he lied. I was bothered. I was hurt by it. I feel like there's some personal investment here in Floyd for whatever reason. Do you think he won three rounds? I 100% think he won three rounds.

I also think Conor won three rounds. I think Mayweather, as he's gotten older, is just slowing the fuck down. And the point is, is what we were told beforehand was, Mayweather will do whatever he wants to. He'll win whenever he wants.

He'll put him down whenever he wants. That was not the truth. You even got footage of him in the corner, where his corner going to Floyd. You got to hit him with a jab. Floyd's going, it's fucking hard to hit him with a jab, bro.

He's six foot fucking two. I'm a midget. You know what I mean? So I just think, but whatever happened in that fight, like Logan showed how good he is in terms of

the kid who just picked up boxing dude it's unbelievable that he lasted that long I don't think people really get it and I think it was the cardio

absolutely it's like if the cardio holds up he still has the size and he hits hard enough where Floyd had to respect it but he just didn't

get tired I told him before that fight I said Logan whatever you do, first round, do not empty the clip. Do not do that.

And what did he do? I'm watching the first round, I'm like, Floyd baits you into that. He's such a clever little bastard, isn't he? You know, but look,

I think for those who don't know what it's like to be in a ring with an old head who can manage his energy and walk you down and like old man you, it was, it must've been hard for Logan to do that. And i think that he's the only guy out of all the youtube boxers who probably could have i don't know maybe jake but jake's a different kind of fighter yeah he would have gone for the knockout and that would have ended up either

good or very very bad yeah i think there's another thing that like i believe that logan convinced himself that he was going to win and you need to do that in order to train that hard that being said i think that he also accepted that a win was survival absolutely and i think after a couple rounds of being hit by mayweather but not not being hurt, and not being dominated, and feeling good on cardio, where most people in a normal, regular fight would be like, fuck, I'm losing, how am I going to change this? I think the fact that he wasn't being so dominated, he actually got excited.

Yeah, he was losing rounds, maybe, or maybe he was getting tagged, but the fact that he wasn't hurt, I think that gave him a little bit. I think the key is, in the last round or two, you could see Floyd turned it down a notch he was like I ain't gonna get this guy over here I'm not gonna do it and the last thing I wanna do

is get tired and end up getting my head hurt you know what I mean so I look at Logan I think the only problem with him in the ring is his state of mind

I don't think he's a killer like he has all the talent but Jake is a dog Jake's a killer Jake is dark you know what I mean he wants to hurt you and he also knows he can turn you out like the lights go off but that Jake is dark. You know what I mean? He wants to hurt you.

And he also knows he could turn you out. Like the lights go off. That's why he can turn you out. I'm convinced. That's why, like, I don't think it's necessarily like, like Deontay Wilder.

You look at him, you think you really should not be able to hurt that guy the way you do, but he's, he wants to kill you. He's even said that. So I think that when you have that darkness, it helps. Yeah. I also think like when you know you darkness it helps but yeah I also think like

when you know you have the ability to do it you lean into it more absolutely and I think that like Logan probably fancies himself a little bit more of like a slick boxer

whereas Jake goes if I sit down on this right hand it's night night and he probably saw it happen over and over what did you make of the Jake versus

Haseem Rahman Jr. situation that I didn't want it I didn't want it at all jake needs in my opinion and i love jake i think jake needs to be the enemy on a card i think that he needs to be the villain you know and i think that you need to you need to want to see him get beat up in the same way that people want to see floyd get beat up so the best case scenario for a jake is if he's fighting somebody that's incredibly well-liked. KSI, yeah. KSI or Nate Diaz. KSI in this country is like nothing in America.

He is huge. He is loved. And he's fighting soon. He's going to fight Swarmz. Yeah, this guy Swarmz, I have no idea who the fuck he is. Why not fight Jake right now? We talked to him the other day. We had him on the pod the other day.

He was fucking phenomenal. Great. But it was one of those things where it's like, now Jake's canceled bout, and then you have a canceled bout. This is a great opportunity to do it. But then again, he's been inactive for a while. Yeah, Jake's been hitting high-level stuff.

Like, you know, he's flatlined UFC champions. And JJ has never never quite hit that level yet because he only fought Logan and took a big break for his music but that fight right that'll do like

we'll sell Wembley out when that happens like it'll be like Anthony Joshua level fight it'll be fucking massive which is mental considering

this all started from a couple of little YouTubers just piss farting around here's a question i actually meant to ask jay did this but then i we got caught up just having fun how many guys have done more for boxing than ksi in the past 30 years it sounds crazy yeah but in terms of just like bringing a lot of money into it and then now jake is fighting for fighter pay and like better care for fighters.

All this stuff happened off of a couple of YouTubers. KSI, forget the other guy's name, being like, hey, let's box. That's what turned this whole thing. It really changed everything. Mate, it's so bizarre. But I never thought, to be honest with you, when it all started, I was interviewing these guys right before they had their first ever fights. And I never thought they'd actually fight real boxers.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of people now are like yeah but he was a UFC guy I'm like this guy started punching three years ago he just knocked out

the welterweight champion of the world in the UFC like if we'd said that when that was being when these guys were having their first fights and not looking great people would have said

you were full of shit so I don't I think that people are people just adjust to the now very quickly like obviously you're saying Logan oh he didn't win any rounds against Floyd I'm like listen to what shit so i don't i think that people are people just adjust to the now very quickly like like obviously you're saying logan oh he didn't win any rounds against floyd i'm like listen to what we're saying here this is logan paul the disney kid in a ring with floyd can i tell you why i

bothered him so much i just put it together if a white guy with no boxing experience took three rounds off of the greatest black boxer ever, but also happens to be black, that really is a blow to the fact that white people can't fight. Because that's something Alex believes in his heart. Alex thinks he might be able to beat you up. I think Floyd has always loved the white guy versus the black guy theme. That's why he made the Conor McGregor fight. I think he knows it makes a lot of money. Those are the highest-grossing fights always.

You think if Conor's black, he doesn't take the fight? Yeah, I agree. I think it knows it makes a lot of money. Oh yeah, he knows. Those are the highest-grossing fights always. You think if Conor's black, he doesn't take the fight. Yeah, I agree. I think it needed that element because Floyd's a businessman. He understands what it triggers people on a level. As much as the average guy doesn't give, I don't know, I think maybe the average guy does get invested by that.

I don't know, but I don't. Yeah, I think there's multiple storylines. I think with boxing specifically or fight sports specifically you need like fan base it's almost like football or soccer

you need like the entrenched fan base it needs to be tribal and I think that's why the biggest fights now are like

Mexico vs Philippines I wanted Amir Khan to be a champion so fucking badly I can't even explain it and he's Pakistani he's English but Pakistani origin I wanted him to be champion so fucking badly it can't even explain it and he's Pakistani he's English but Pakistani origin

I want him to be champion so fucking badly it was unbelievable you would root for Manny Pacquiao because he was closer to India because he's Asian we'll continue to do so yes

we'll continue to do so so at the end of the day you need that what am I getting into podcast fights he did a whole documentary on Pakistan fucking 35 man

fuck that I train but I'm not like my ego isn't there anymore. Do you know when these young 20-something lads are like looking at each other? I'm like, I don't give a fuck if you could beat me up anyway. Like, I don't even, it's just fun for me. Well, success definitely satisfies that part of the ego. If you were 22, would you have done it?

Oh, absolutely. I would have been challenging every fucker. My ego back then was so different to what it is now. Now when people talk shit about me on the internet, I'm like, cool. Okay then. Because it's different. If someone's in your face talking shit to you,

that's one thing. Yeah. But if someone's talking shit on their YouTube channel, I know they're just doing it for the views and all that. Yeah. So I'm like, I don't, I know they want a response from me so I can help build it. That was why when Logan bit,

I was like, got him. Yeah. Fucking yes. But I'm now like, got him. Yeah. Fucking yes. But I'm now happy where I am. Yeah. I mean, I'm not bothered about any of that.

I've heard you say you have a chip on your shoulder. Do you still have that? And if so, how do you reconcile that with, okay, but I'm still not going to get affected by this internet shit. I've got a chip on my shoulder about getting like respected as a content creator. Yeah.

That sort of shit. Like, um, I guess like a comedian would, would, when you, you know, with my show about getting like respected as a content creator that sort of shit like I guess like a comedian would you know when you feel like you're the guy as a comedian you want people to recognize that

it makes you better at what you do it makes you put that time and energy in that the next guy isn't doing so I think that's a healthy way to have your ego

make you work harder but it's when people trick you into doing dumb shit that your ego is not under control for example like me agreeing

to fight fucking the heavyweight champion of the world or some dumb shit like that you know what I mean I don't know like I think that's what we see with some of these

young guys is they get in the ring and before they know it they're like fuck I don't know how to fucking box Jake Paul fucking does and all of a sudden

he's knocking out Nate Robinson because Nate Robinson is looking at him going I'm an athlete Jake's like cool alright mate we a sudden he's knocking out Nate Robinson because Nate Robinson's looking at him going I'm an athlete Jake's like cool alright mate we'll see how that works out

for you I think that KSI Jake Paul fight is kind of inevitable at this point if you had to make a prediction on that what would you say?

Right now Jake Paul's the better boxer but I think Jake and JJ mentally are very similar they're both evil motherfuckers, they both have

that like, that nastiness in them, they both want to hurt people, they both take enjoyment out of knocking other people out, so I think that by the time that's why JJ is taking his time to get there, by the time it happens I think they're almost the same height, same size, same reach

so it's going to be really interesting because they're both like kings of their own sides of the, uh, the globe and all that. So it's very hard. It's like a flip of a coin at that point. There's a, uh,

you know, we were talking to Jake and, uh, Jake seems concerned about fighting a quote unquote real boxer. Yeah. That's ego. And that's ego. Oh yeah.

And I said to him, I was like, fuck what these people think. Fuck them. If you're going in there, you're risking your life. Make the big money fights. Fight Nate Diaz, mate. Fight Nate. Fight JJ. But just who cares what the average person is trying to discredit you thinks

because no matter what you do, they're going to discredit you. Tyron Woodley, classic example. No one would have thought you'd even get in the ring with him. He flatlined him and everyone's like he's a washed up MMA guy yeah yeah yeah you're never gonna satisfy

even now he doesn't get respect really but it's always something yeah he fought Manny Pacquiao that's what they were all saying then oh yeah you fought him too late

it's always gonna be something people don't wanna like you they're not gonna like you make another 50 million fighting this year and live protect your brain yeah

protect the ego. That's interesting thing. Cause when I was doing just some like more background research on you, I definitely felt that you do have a chip on your shoulder about like this acceptance, but I think you're, I'm a working class guy in the UK and there's not really. So in UK YouTube podcasting,

they're all from a certain class upwards. How else do you get all this equipment and all this shit? The biggest YouTuber JJ went to private school. He's been very fortunate in life. So I kind of felt more of a hunger and

that sort of doesn't leave you. You're like the Billy Elliot of podcasts. I'm literally from where he was from get the fuck out of here yeah they literally auditioned for that at my school man no way they were trying to get like random kids to go along I was like fuck that I'm not going to be an actor

you know that's so funny okay so because I was looking I was seeing and I think a lot of times we battle this feeling of like wanting acceptance from like mainstream media because it's such an institution that we grew up watching

and seeing and embracing ourselves. And then valuing the acceptance and the success that we've created ourselves outside of that. And I think eventually, at least that's how I felt, is eventually you realize this thing over here that we want validation for,

we want to do the traditional route. I'm a comic. I should have a sitcom. I should do these things. Once we realize it doesn't make us feel happy and there's no joy in it, I think that we really start to embrace this section that we've created ourselves,

especially because it's the future, and I wonder when that will, because I think there's a little part of you still that's like i want the big deal or i want the thing to set me off where it's like even if you get the big deal you're still working like you've created the thing that all these people over here really want they don't want to go to these fucking hollywood parties and like kiss each other's ass and like talk about like how they feel about gender politics they're like fuck that i want to curse with my friends and talk about soccer yeah i want to interview the most interesting people when do you think you're going to get to the point where you're like oh fuck i have the thing that i

know i think i'm there now i just don't have the cash i want the money now that's the rest of it because what does the money do the money gives you the freedom yeah and that's all i want really the the fuck you money is all i i don't yeah but i take it's took me like years to get to that point but i'm there now i'm like fuck you is such an interesting way of looking at because it's really not fuck you it's almost like no thank you yeah when you have real money it's like hey we'd like you to come uh we'd like you to come watch this game that you may or may not be interested in and you go no, no, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I can say no, thank you to whatever I want.

I only need to do things or I only get to have to do things I want to do. I don't have to do anything because I need the money or whatever. Here's the thing that this is also my drive, right? Because we're fortunate where we're doing things that we love, right? Like I built a career doing the things I love. If I have to work,

I might as well love doing it. And I think I can figure it out. If I just want to make money, I work for a fucking bank or something like that but i want to do this but in my mind i'm like there's this goal where i go i want the the no thank you i want the fuck you money i wonder if when i get there there's still the same feeling and i've just created an arbitrary goal to drive me and push me what i've've noticed tends to happen, and this scares me, you have a number in your mind. 100 million.

Let's just say that's it. Oh, yeah. 100 million. You get 100 million, and now you're like, ah, it's 200 million, really. 100 million is not enough to do what I really want to do.

You get to 100, you're like, boats cost like 50 million. You know, you were talking about Floyd earlier, and I think that that's what people like Floyd and Conner, they spend as much as they make,

so that drive is never-ending. It's almost like you're creating a problem as they make. So that, that drive is never ending. It's almost like you're creating a problem. This is really interesting. It's, they're not spending because they can't control it. They know that that is the motivating factor. Oh yeah. Constantly creating discomfort.

Yes. The discomfort drives them. They grew up in chaos. They grew up with nothing. If you're a kid who's poor, you have no fucking food, your own fucking food stamps. Like Connor,

he doesn't know how to grind when he has all the, the, what is it? The creature comforts that he could possibly uh demand so he buys a fucking lamborghini boat he can't afford to put him in a hole i did the same thing on a smaller scale when i first started getting money i bought fucking i heard this is crazy i got a mclaren i got i got like three cars in the space of like a year and it was like what the afterwards after i was driving around with the top down i had the thrill i was like what the fuck am i doing this is mental but then the one person who seems like immune to that is joe rogan he did the 100 million deal same fucking bloke same life same everything joe is nothing changed yeah the legit and i know that you really admire joe he's the guy who got

me into it basically yeah he you know how they say like don't meet your heroes meet joe because he is the guy and i mean that like has the money to do whatever the fuck he wants and does whatever the fuck he wants i i i wish i could be like more like that because of my ego like i like to talk shit and i like to like act a bit arrogant he never really does that he could flex on everyone i think he doesn't really do it martial arts bro i think like you have you you come up in that community and there's a humility to it it's like you've experienced getting fucked up like he's in jujitsu every single week where a guy could literally take his life away it's hard to be that cocky arrogant motherfucker when a guy almost

took your fucking life yeah he also had 20 years of like growing before he ended up in podcasting. Whereas I had a, I've made, I've said a lot of dumb shit in my podcast. No, this is, this is, this is,

no, this is something interesting. It's like experiencing fame and then losing it is super valuable. Just like experiencing money and then losing it. You know, like I, you know, you probably were killing it. Then you went through tough patch, right? The fact that you

learned you can make it again is empowering, right? You're like, oh, I can, I'll risk everything now. I know I could get this bread. Like that is valuable. But also you learn how dumb it is to spend. I've heard you talk about this in other podcasts, the cars, like it's clear you learned how dumb that was. So now that you know, you can make it back and you're not going to spend it like that. You know, you can take the risks and you know how to manage it when you get it. It's super valuable. So,

so look at this. So you look at it like money. You're like, okay, I got it. Having some fame and then losing it makes it so much easier to handle fame. So earlier in my career, I'm not talking to this like fame.

I don't even like using the word, but like some people knew who I was because I was on some MTV shows. The MTV shows stopped and then way less people knew who I was. And I got to reflect on what that was like. I got to reflect on my behavior. You know, at this time I was trying to like live up

to an expectation of myself. That went away and I was like, oh, I was worried about letting these people down. Is that important to me? Does it matter if I let them down? Was I representing myself in the right way? Like I got to reflect on this time. So when it came back up again, I was way more ready and comfortable for it. I actually didn't mind it when it went away. So I wasn't afraid of it going away. I was creating things that I was really proud of and represented exactly who I was. So if you hated me for my content, I was okay with that because I was being me.

And I wonder if you haven't noticed it go away. You've only gotten more and more and more and more famous. I wonder if there's like a pressure where you go, could it go away? And what would you do? You know what it is? I'm fearless in that regard.

I literally don't want to be famous. Don't care about fame in any way, shape or form. Like, all right, it's cool when people come and say they like stuff or whatever but if anything I actively try not to be I'm quite like a head down don't really try and make a big scene of myself when I'm

out but because I'm a big guy everyone's like fuck you know but yeah I think that's why you could do what you did when you were like nah I'm just going to release it on my own website and all that like

that lack of fear it's the best feeling in the world I think when you're a content creator because otherwise you're letting other people dictate the art

you're letting other people sort of shape you and you can't do that you have to follow I never ask people what I think of what they like I don't want

your opinion do you know in that regard unless i respect someone or they're in my late like league or whatever not asking like the audience what what should i do next yeah you can't uh and ricky gervais said that to me good name dropper he's like you've got to turn your back on the audience to conduct the orchestra sort of thing. And that is the fucking truth. Because ultimately, if they want the authentic version of yourself, that's what they're gravitating towards.

You can't be authentically you by asking them what they want to hear. And I think that's where my strength comes from in my content is like, I am not scared to cry, like anything. I would tell people my darkest secrets. I'm not frightened of letting that all go because I don't care what

people really think. Bro, the way you handled the DMs, bro, that was... And who is that guy who did the roast? That was funny. My boy Stephen Triesman. You're gonna love him. He's a stand-up comedian, but he's young so like he's still

i mean he had some good jokes this is like really funny but steven's funnier off camera when he can say the wild shit you know but you guys have to meet steven i gotta i gotta absolutely but okay so these dms come out where you're saying crazy shit oh yeah like this is the worst dms ever right bro it sounded like you were like someone stole your phone. Would you know what it was? You could have said my boy stole my phone. No, no, but I didn't want to, because that would give- But it was so wild, we would have believed it.

That would give power, though, to other people. And I was like, you know what? Do I really want to let someone else have this over me? Because, like, A, I was drunk as fuck at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Naturally, you know, and I was lit. So then, but also then but also but also everything i'm saying it doesn't it doesn't necessarily mean i want to do but in the moment

i was like yeah let's see how wild i could take this with this girl yeah i don't know if anyone else has been there when you're like you're playing this game with a girl where you're like she said something wild and then before you know you're like fuck me she's wild let me see if I can say something even crazier and you won I won although she she erased what she was saying

so maybe I didn't so what did she say like how did it happen can you you don't have to protect her long story but I barely even I barely even knew

what this person right so like you know when I was like yeah I don't really want to carry on talking to you

that was when it was like oh I'm gonna fucking ruin your life you know when i was like yeah i don't really want to carry on talking to you that was when it was like oh i'm gonna fucking ruin your life now you know um oh so that that is revenge porn yeah but men don't get sympathy like that we don't get sympathy do you know why when you're six foot four you're 300 pound guy people just think you're bulletproof and that you can take any old shit and i realized i was like oh there's a double standard yeah yeah yeah there's a double standard though because like if i'd been a woman and a guy just like me oh the violins would have come out yeah they would literally in america there's a revenge because i'm a man and and i had to sort of rationalize and go okay yeah this is how the world works so the dms get leaked and the first episode back you have your

buddy on to do a roast about everything they saw yeah because i was just like brilliant i'm gonna get this out in the because i'm not scared of like laughing about it i was like yeah i mean okay let's let's go there yeah and then afterwards i was like right next show after that was like it never fucking happened and then the funniest bit was, so I got all my guys to roast me. When Logan lost his fight against JJ, he did the same thing, and I was like, ah, I'm the influencer of the influencers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because if you say the worst shit about yourself, what the fuck are they going to say? It's eight mile. Eight mile. That was my thought. I was just like, I'm going to do it first. Get it out in the open. But also, messages. It's not like there was anything real,

but you know what? Like dirty messages sound funny regardless. If it's someone you know and you're like, fuck it now. Yeah, but that cost you like millions. People don't know this because you didn't talk about it publicly. He had a deal on the table. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Millions. No, so that wasn't what cost me the money. But it, so basically it was, I, I'd lost a deal that week that was worth millions. Yeah. And the longterm, not,

not necessarily making me millions, but the company and the boys and we would have been looked after. Yeah. And then, and then that happened afterwards. So in one week I lost a multimillion pound deal. And then everyone was talking shit about me and I was like fuck this is like the worst feeling in the world right now like because I'm I come from

nothing so like to have that ripped away from you and then have everyone laughing at you at the same time but I think that that's a testament how strong I am where I'm like I'm just going to take it on the chin yeah and laugh about it and then move on Now, the next girl you're trying to hook up with. Bro. Real talk. Does she come through with the dilly? Real talk. Real talk.

You would not believe how many girls are like, man, I like those dicks. No! I don't give a fuck. I was like, all these boys taking the piss out of me. You're a Black Panther, dude. Dude, you can't even get your girl to suck your dick. I've got girls willing to fucking do backflips on mine, you cunt. Shut the fuck up.

Honestly. You're laughing at me? Laugh at what I'm dealing with in my life. Okay, so like, you know how it's like anything that should be bad for you ends up becoming gold. Have you noticed that? But that's because I don't let it destroy me whatever it is that you're doing with it it's working out but the fact that what is people love someone who's just willing to be laughed at and go yeah okay that's me you have to have sense of humor and it takes the power away

from people because the fear is creators look let's take someone who did something like actually fucking a bit dodgy which was that chris d'alia situation right yeah this guy evaporated right he's now just like bre Sharpe's right-hand man or whatever the fuck's going on over here. Like, he hid away. When you show weakness like that, that's when the rest of the world are like, he did something.

And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, wait there, wait there. I'm talking to a grown woman about some dirty shit. Yeah, it's funny, but I ain't done anything wrong. That's the important part here. Well grown woman. That's the important part here well grown big ass titties well grown well grown

no I think it was a brilliant way and I think if you look at other people who have addressed situations like straight on like you look at

like Portnoy the way he handled you know Dave Portnoy from Barstool he took that shit on like I would have took it on and here's the thing

the beautiful thing is that you let people know yo there's a cost to talking shit about me oh yeah are you like and I even we talk about this with Jake a lot with his fights it's like fighting Jake Paul isn't just in the ring it's the lead-up where everything that you've ever done in your life is going to be fucking brought up it's going to be horrible he's going to put you through this should just happen right now by the way so ksi is uh the guy who ksi is fighting yeah people have been through his likes on twitter full of fuck and like wild porn or shit and all that i'm like mate you should have fucking cleaned everything you can't address it head on if you actually did some shit that's immoral exactly which is actually wrong yeah yeah no that's that is the fucking thing we just had louis on the pod like

last week right you know louis ck right and and that was the thing that we didn't talk about but i did want to talk about him which was like i just wish you said what absolute bullshit this was immediately because when you publicly apologize even if you're apologizing for what you did the people don't know that all they know is the accusation so if you just go out like i say i'm sorry they go oh he's sorry for what i think that he did yeah and that is the worst fucking thing that you can do you either spell out exactly what happened and then see how you feel about or you say fuck everybody i think that we all have to look at what the fuck um pirates of the caribbean fuck i did uh johnny depppp Johnny Depp fucking showed the way mate

oh yeah if you've got receipts you come back take that bitch to court come back stronger than ever yeah and

his new movie whatever it is is gonna fucking mate I love that guy I'll buy two tickets I won't even go I'll buy two tickets I won't even go

100% no I just want to support yeah I agree I agree because too many men feel scared that the second

you get accused of anything or someone comes for you in that way that, oh shit, maybe I did do it. You know what I mean? Like, like men just panic straight away. And it's like, they're worried about losing all the thing. They're worried about losing sponsors, losing whatever. You face that shit head on. If you can be funny as hell about it and the people will see it.

That's how i saved the sponsors mate all my sponsors were like fuck okay he's bigger than ever why the fuck would we leave him now this is mental yeah i got two million views on that one video just laughing about well more than that probably yeah and why would they leave you for something to happen to you yeah but this is the thing is like men and this is perception it's very hard to look at a guy like me as a victim. But I was, in a way. They've just done a documentary called The Most Hated Man on the Internet

because he was leaking all of the girlfriend revenge porn shit. And I'm like, you know, that isn't a million miles off of what happened to me. But I would have came off better if it was that. Yeah, if you had the dick out the issue with those guys

like I said a lot of them did fucked up shit like Cosby for example couldn't have just gone head forward because he is guilty because he actually

did that shit it's when it's like something that's that's a crazy apology video you have a habit of pulling people I seen that when

Brendan sat down and he was like so did you ask her for a blowjob then or what Brendan Schaub did you ask Annie to walk you

to your truck oh walk you to your truck yeah the whole thing with Bobby and all of that now

that's like crazy podcasts in America you lot need to fucking be friends it's embarrassing how competitive

these people are they're talking shit about each other can I tell you something that happened? This is the power vacuum. What are they laughing at? What happened? What happened?

What happened? What happened? What did I miss? No, but the power vacuum when Rogan left LA. Notice this is all post-Rogan LA. So weird. When the fucking king was in LA he seemed to like everyone in order everybody was in line and not only was everybody in order everybody took orders so if rogan was helping

everybody out you guys had to help everybody out these are the rules he leaves disarray brendan's and yeah people come after him straight away i mean they were they were i mean what happens on reddit to him and he's actually a really sweet guy i love him really nice fucking he's really inspiring i know yeah people want to say what they want about his comedy but the guy he's three years in comedy guy was a fucking top 10 heavyweight in mma he's done well he's done a bit of successful comedian whatever people think about it i felt like he got a raw deal you know and that girl like the way she was like the way they were trying oh sorry we didn't mean to oh fuck off you know what it was and you were engaging was. And you were engaging the Reddit.

You were making the Reddit cook it up. Honestly, when we had him on, we had a talk with him about, I think that you have to, like we were talking about, I think you have to face this head on. You have to be funny about this. You have all these people who are listening to your content, consuming your content, and they're using it to make fun of you. But at the same time, they're consuming it.

Engage with them. Make fun of this. Sell fucking merch with the sayings that are made. Like, these people are invested in you. Find a way

where you can galvanize those people. And I think if you show them that it's funny and show them that there's a sense of humor, I actually think that they would like

turn it in support. 100%. And that's what you're on about with me was when people came to laugh at me, they were like, fuck me, this guy doesn't give me a fuck.

He doesn't give a fuck and he's good. He allowed us to laugh. Is it possible to feel like you're winning when i'm but to be honest inside i was fucking devastated yeah but i thought i had three cups of whiskey i probably smoked a little weed and i was like okay let's do it yeah and i'd never heard the jokes before i was like go in like go fucking crazy yeah and uh you have to like because otherwise you're letting them win. And that's what they want. They want to see you succeed.

People love to come up, but they love dragging you fucking down when they think that you're too big for your boots. Even though that might not even be the case. They're just having their... Sometimes people are just

having a shit life and they want to bring you down a couple. I also think it's like there's certain platforms that lend themselves to criticism and negativity because that's where the attention is.

How much do you guys read tweets and engage in that shit i try to engage with people man i i try to like look and i try to because i've turned all my comments off really i just wanted to sort of show that i don't good or bad i'm not interested yeah it was like i don't give a fuck like was it affecting you or you just were like, I think it was at one point, but then when I switched off, I was like, problem solved.

Watch or don't watch. And the fact you're going to keep creating the content you want to create regardless. Absolutely. So it really doesn't matter what people are saying. No. So you're just going to remove yourself from. Yeah.

If it was up to me, I'd probably take off YouTube comments and everything. Not, not because I have a problem with it. Like, as in like what they're saying, it's, I don't care in that way.

I can, especially with podcasting almost, cause there's more time to think I can get in my head. So the more comments I read, the more in my head I can get. So now I'm like, look, I just want to be the best version of me.

I can be, I want y'all to have the space to make whatever comments you want engage with each other do all that i'm going to try not to read it as much because i just want to be the best me as well man because how are you going to get through a two-hour chat and not say dumb shit at some point everyone does yeah yeah one hour 37 he hiccuped really bro that's what we're doing can i have some more whiskey? Of course you can. All right, guys. True Joy just went to the bathroom,

so we're going to talk about something he has no fucking clue about. That's good old-fashioned American cowhide football. Yeah. Made with cowhide. It used to be made out of pigskin. Who do you fucking think stopped that?

Robert Kraft? Do you think he might have something to do with it? I don't know if he's involved in that. Anyway, listen, that's Haram. That's Haram. Listen, the point I'm trying to make here is I've been speaking to BetOnline. And I'm like, guys, you have too much money.

I have too much wisdom. Let me help reduce some of the money that you have stored and give it back to the good gambling people out there with my gambling advice, with Akash's gambling advice, with Mark's gambling advice, with Alex Media's gambling advice. Yeah. Expertise. You're an NFL expert. Literally. You have a lot of expertise. Literally.

A lot of people don't know this. I named most NFL teams. Yeah, that's true. Yep. What was the rationale behind Cleveland? Because it's shit city. So I figured we name it after what you feel like when you're in Cleveland. That's a good idea.

I don't think there's many people who have traveled to Cleveland and they're like, yeah, I just feel like there's no shit on my body. Oh, yeah. Most of the time when you're there, you're like, am I in a colon? Am I being squeezed through a colon right now? And then you're like, oh, no, I'm not. I'm just in Cleveland. Do you know what I'm saying? So who are you putting your money on? The Cleveland Browns.

No, no. I think that we have to talk to the good people and we have to give them advice on who's going to win the Super Bowl. I personally think, and nobody else here thinks this, but I believe the Kansas City Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl. That's what I personally think.

Why is that? Why receiver by committee is a thing that I believe in. Listen, listen. You don't need Tyreek. Can I say one thing? That's the dumbest opinion I've ever heard in my life. That's so stupid. I think I'm going to put it on Kansas City. I think they're going to win it?

I think they're going to come back. They traded away Tyreek, but I think they're going to be fine. And why? Who's replacing Tyreek? It don't matter. You can do wide receiver by committee. What a fucking noob opinion.

Oh, Patrick Mahomes. You're an idiot, dude. All you need is a guy who's fast that Patrick Mahomes can throw the ball to. You just get somebody fast for Mahomes. You're good. You're just a hack. Dude, you're a hack.

Okay, maybe I'm a hack, but it's how I feel. I don't think you need a powerful wide receiver. Hey, who's going to win the championship? I think LeBron is going to win the championship. No, I'm just telling you, me personally, me personally, I'm not trying to say how you feel. Me personally. I don't feel that way. I think I'm going to put it on Kansas City.

You get a fast guy. Patrick Mahomes has enough of an arm, right, where he can throw it to him. Which is big in football. They always talk about that. Son, being a quarterback is so important. Listen, I disagree with this wholeheartedly. Well, who do you think? I think the Baltimore Ravens are going to win the Super Bowl.

So? What team did you just think of? Baltimore Orioles. Oh, if you had actually said the Ravens, that would have been a great pick. No, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on. You actually, because motherfuckers are going to put their money down on this right now. I think you've got to take the Ravens, that would have been a great thing. Wait a minute. Hold on. You actually, because motherfuckers are going to put their money down on this right now. I think you've got to take

the Ravens very seriously. And not only are they going to put their money down on it, if they put their money down on it, up to $1,000, they'll get 50% of that. Oh, shit. Wait, did you just think of that? I had a conversation with a bet online about it. I was like, yo, put your motherfucking money

where your mouth is. And they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, yo, I don't want to just gamble with my money. I'm trying to gamble with your money. If you try to reduce that pool, Scrooge McDuck, I need you to give me some of that money so I can gamble it up. Yep. BetOnline, A-G, dot A-G. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Code is flagrant. Al, who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl this year? Well, I'm going to bet on who's not going to win. Who would think of such a stupid bet as that? Can you bet on who's not going to win? What fucking idiot? That's a dumb bet.

What a dumb asshole. I'm betting that the Tampa Bay Bucks are not going to win a Super Bowl. Who would even take that bet? Why would you bet against Tom Brady? There's much worse teams to bet that way with. He's old. He's washed. I'm going to put my money where my mouth is.

Where is my mouth? Tom Brady's crotch. Now, who do you think is going to win? Deshaun Watson, son of a bitch? I think Deshaun Watson is going to be very relaxed. You know he's suspended six games at least, right? He'll be very relaxed after all his massages, bro. He's going to be very relaxed. You know he's suspended six games at least, right? He'll be very relaxed after all his massages, bro. He's going to be very relaxed.

Is that who you're going to root for? No. Are you sure? Tampa Bay wins it all. Whoa. Wow. That's a Florida kid right there. I'm a Florida boy.

I got to support my team. You know what I'm saying? They're the Finns, but I'm going Tom Brady all day. What was that? That was the Miami Dolphins. Oh. Yeah, Finns up, baby. Oh, I thought you guys were Miami Dolphins. Oh. Yeah, fins up, baby. Oh, I thought you guys

just had the same forehead. That's why you used the Miami Dolphins. I thought he was calling attention to it. Did I look bottlenose a little bit? Okay, listen.

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Our podcast scene is non-existent compared to America. Yeah. Well, think about it. Like, in L.A., like, none of those people want to be podcasters. Like, nobody moves to L.A. to be a podcaster. Yeah, they're... Right? Except Rogan. Yeah. Well, no, Rogan didn't go there to be a podcaster. Yeah, they're, they're, except Rogan.

Yeah, well, no, Rogan didn't go there to be a podcaster. he didn't go there, but like, he was the one that was like, oh,

I want to do this. I don't care if there's views. He did it before it was anything. Right. But everybody else is going, okay, I'm going to do this thing. Like,

I didn't think that I was going to do a podcast. Yeah. I will say this. I wanted to do a podcast so early. Way before I did it even with Charlamagne. When I was on MTV, I was trying to get Guy Code to do a podcast so early way before i did it even with charlamagne when i was on mtv i was trying to get guy code to do a podcast i was like this is the fucking thing before that

i used to do a podcast every weekend at brunch with my buddy bobby that we have recorded somewhere bobby yeah it is somewhere i don't know where it is You and I sat down and did a podcast in the back of the lantern on like an iPhone 3, fuck, or 4 or whatever, like the early ass iPhone. We have one somewhere and then we couldn't get it

to work at all, but we sat there before or after a show for like 45 minutes and just turned on cameras. It just felt like, I don't know, for me,

not like it felt like the thing was going to be successful. It was the most fun. Like, I loved being around my boys and then just waxing poetic on bullshit. Making arguments for the craziest things. It was like a deconstructed version of stand-up. Stand-up is like those conversations whittled down to—

Refined. Yes. But I loved the process of even getting there. I think what we're finding is some podcasters are actually funnier as podcasters than they are at stand-up. Like Tim Dillon, I could listen to his podcast

any fucking time of the day. He's brilliant. He's unbelievably funny. Mega talent. Oh, yeah. You guys had a... As a podcaster. You guys had a back-up for him.

Tim's funny. We're back in, by the way. Yeah, we're back in. Yeah, I was messaging Tim like, oh, when you're coming over, we'll get you on the podcast. And he was like, he thought it was some Irish dude

he was shagging or something. I like what did he say no he replied and he was like he's like I don't I thought you I thought I was flying you out silly and I was like something like that and I was like flying me out and he's like oh I thought you were some Irish twink I've been I was like nope but the stand up part that that is like the effort of like whittling it down and refining it that is the fucking hard painful part

and you have to love doing stand up or really want a joke of yours to be out in the ether in order to go through that and we even saw it earlier with stand ups like there were certain stand ups that like they're just so, like talking like certain guys who just like around the club and they are the funniest guys. They're not the funniest on stage, but around they are 10 times funnier than that comic that you like admire so much. You think it's hilarious because they're

different things. Yeah. Being a hilarious. Now there's some people who can do both. They can be hilarious at podcasting and be hilarious at standup. Like I think I'm way better at standup than I am podcasting. I love podcasting. I think this is the most fun i also just like i don't talking to people i'm like curious i'm i want to know the things that you know kind of selfishly too because i'm like okay i mean maybe i could use some of that yeah yeah you're gonna tell me some geordie help you for sure yeah hanging out with like i mean i've had like days with russell brown and louiseroux and afterwards you can't not come away

from that and be fucking hell you know what I mean Louis Theroux for example he is one of the funniest guys you'll ever meet really like shockingly funny

okay so Louis is a very famous journalist he's also the guy my money don't jiggle jiggle he's the biggest documentary maker probably in the world

yeah I'd say yeah he's a TikToker to us yeah he made the biggest documentary maker probably in the world yeah i'd say yeah well he's a tiktoker to us he made the westboro baptist documentary did you ever see that yeah i'm pretty sure yeah that's the funniest documentary i've ever seen yeah he comes into like pedophile prisons he goes into like these racist uh church goers in america. He's exposed like so many people. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Just by being like this sort of unassuming English guy that no one would

ever think would be threatening in any way. He never says anything judgmental. And then afterwards in the edit, he's like, I'm a fucking sure you guys, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's a,

it's a weapon. That accent you guys got, especially the Londoners, because you can really, that accent you guys got. Yeah. Especially the Londoners. Because you can really come into any environment and speak like that, and it's immediately disarming. It's like carrying around flowers. Two Americans at this. What was the thing that happened last night? Do you remember this?

Oh, yeah, this was great. Oh, fuck, I love your language. It's the same language. If somebody says something, and it's absurd, in New York, we go, man, fuck out of here. Right? Like if somebody is like, yo, I think John Starks is better than LeBron. Right? Man, fuck out of here.

But there's a buddy of ours, Jason, who went, he goes, do you really believe that? And that was more insulting than a fuck out of here. So patronizing. It's like, wait, are you dumb enough to actually believe my favorite one is are you alright I'm concerned for you because what you said was so stupid to me and it's like

you guys you have politeness built into the culture so you found ways to be like rude and patronizing within politeness that's why Gervais is the one he is he's a genius

that is what he does so brilliantly that was my most intimidating interview really people were like who's like I've interviewed Tyson Fury

all these big fucking six foot nine fighters and it was Gervais why why because he can make anyone look so stupid like if you piss him off just a little bit

I've seen him turn in interviews before, he gets a little bit annoyed. You know what I mean? He starts sort of making little sly jokes and stuff like that. And the interviewer is oblivious to it until it's too late. Interesting.

But luckily he liked me. Sharp guy? Oh, the cleverest guy I think I've ever interviewed in my life. Really? Yeah, really. How about the cleverest guys you've been interviewed by? Who gets that?

You know what I mean? Who are those guys? Any podcasting? Had a few good ones over the years. Steve Paul. Cheers. Wait, wait. So Gervais,

what do you think Gervais' genius zone is? Well, if you look, he got in front of all of those guys at the Golden Globes and he humiliated them. Unbelievable. And they are the most powerful, richest, prettiest, beautiful people. he got in front of all of those guys at the Golden Globes and he humiliated them. Unbelievable. And they were the most powerful, richest, prettiest, beautiful people.

And he didn't do no Chris Rock jokes. That's just like a little jab. He was right hooking and going for the kill. I think my favorite one is he's like, is something about, that was two straight men playing gay guys. So it's the exact opposite of some famous Scientologists that we know and he's just like laying them out

left right and centre didn't he say he was like you're all on Epstein's plane or something like that yeah oh fuck off he goes if

something like if the Taliban set up a streaming service he'd call your agent fucking annihilate them you know but like that's that's the way he is

he doesn't give a fuck if you remember that joke he got first he gave i think jennifer anderson credit for a show on apple plus got everybody to clap for her and then yeah yeah i think what i love about and i'm not saying this is like a thing that's idiosyncratic to america but i feel like there's something built into culture where we get to humiliate the richest, most famous people. And there's a lot of shows that do this. And I don't even realize if they realize why that's successful. Like the, like Jimmy Fallon show, like I don't care to watch late night. I think it sucks. But what I think people enjoy is seeing a pie get thrown in the famous person's face, you know, seeing like water gets splattered in the famous person's face. You

don't get to see famous people fall. And I think that's what like the correspondence dinner, we have this thing where you get to make fun of the president, his face. And then Trump didn't do it. And I was like, you fucking pussy, man. Like this is part of America. The most famous people, you get all the nice shit.

You don't have to pay taxes. You get billions of dollars, have boats, fuck everybody. But you're going to stand there in front of everybody and we're going to make fun of you and then the rest of us have a day. We have a day where we get to see you look humiliated. And it's beautiful. And if you can't give us one day,

it's hard for me to ride with you, man. You can't do that with Biden, though, because he wouldn't, this guy's so... That's great, you make fun of him, he doesn't remember 10 minutes late. You could just sit spot on. It's all the same joke. He would go.

I bet he would go. I wonder how ruthless... They'd roll him in there. Yeah. He'd go wherever. Fuck God. He's dead, I bet he would go. I wonder how ruthless. They roll him in there. Yeah. He's dead, isn't he? He's literally dead. But doesn't it show you that like, it doesn't matter who's there? Kind of liberating, right?

Doesn't give a fuck. Yeah. He'll be having his like, ass wiped for a minute, about two years. And he's the leader of the free world. The leader of the free world. Right now. Yeah. And in two years, he's going leader of the free world right now yeah and in two years he's gonna

be laying there like yeah but look at all these people they like fight so hard for like a president or something like that it doesn't matter oh no i think we're catching on to that in this country though yeah people are just so jaded yeah i don't know if you guys do people still do the left versus right thing people don't give a fuck about that in the UK anymore I think people are just like they're all like a bunch of what do you you care about the word spaz

what was that about again you didn't hear this because of Beyonce or something Beyonce changed the lyric yeah because it was offensive to spaz or whatever yeah it's a bit of a weird one

that because is that a bad word we don't understand that so in the UK i believe it's the uk anyway but there was a society the spastic society which was their creative is that a rap group no it was based on it was i think it was based on a term for exactly but but that word was then taken like like many words,

was taken and used as a negative and spaz and all these other words were then, yeah. So I think Beyonce wrote that lyric for her and she didn't even

fucking think twice. Because in America we don't care. But more importantly, was there a time where you could go to a meeting and just watch

a bunch of spazes in like a hotel conference room? Wow. I'm just saying, if it was a bunch of spazzes in like a hotel conference room. Wow. No, like, I'm just saying, if it was a society, that means that there was like events.

No, I think, I'm using that term as a person who has no idea. Okay. Right, just to be absolutely clear. I don't want to get you in trouble. I want to support. I don't,

I'm not getting anyone in trouble here. They need to just do like, let's just reclaim the work. Yeah, exactly. Yo, so only they can say it. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wow. Wow. No, but that'd be, you don't think that'd be cool? They're more like, hey, what's up, my spazzers? You know what I mean? You don't think that'd be like a fun thing? You would go to that meeting. You'd pay top dollar.

Mate, I'd be the host. There we go. They'd be paying me. 100, I'd be the host. There we go. They'd be paying me. 100%. I'm not giving them a free ride just because they're, you know, whatever. Because they're what? Whatever disability. I want paid.

All right. Is it a disability? So it was a name, to my knowledge, given to the organization that would be. It's like kids with Down syndrome. It's basically literally what retard was in America. Yeah. It's very similar

to the word retard. The Council for Retarded Children in like the 80s and they would have like fundraisers and stuff and then the word got appropriate to mean like a dumb person,

blah, blah, blah. And so they're trying to change the word. So we had a Council for Retarded Children. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

There's like old like Knights of Columbus pictures of like Catholic like charities and stuff and it's like, oh, donate money to retarded kids Knights of Columbus pictures of Catholic charities and stuff, and it's like, oh, donate money to retarded kids. And it was like giant signs on the highway. And it's like, yeah, that's just what the word was. And then it changed.

Wow. Yeah, I still, I don't feel like retarded is that bad a word yet. Like there's certain words where I'm like, I get like a feeling about it. Well, yeah. I'm not looking at you for a reason, Al, but like there are certain words where i'm like

that's a little rough that one but like retarded doesn't yeah i don't i don't feel that way about it either i feel very like whatever yeah i think most people do when they're on their own or when they're with their boys most people you hear a lot of words go flying around yeah what's your favorite one what's my favorite word that is would get me cancelled I can surmise a guess by looking at you go for it let's guess

what do you call do you think I look like I would use a certain word more than the others go on

go for it what are you saying you're just missing one swastika attack just shave it

off I remember when I was younger I started talking to like an Indian girl or something like that and I was younger I started talking to like an Indian girl or something like that and she was like

I can't believe you're talking to me and I was like why? and she was like well because you look like the people that used to bully me in school I was like

oh okay so okay then here's a Scottish story right oh god this will be fun this has nothing to do with sex and my mother

okay this is why you don't judge book by its cover color Oh, God. This will be fun. I got it. This has nothing to do with sex and my mother. Okay? This is why you don't judge a book by its color. Cover. Color? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Color purple. Okay.

So I'm in Scotland. It's late night. And all of a sudden, these two guys are walking down the street, right? They look like you. Seeing these two guys. And he's starting. He's all drunk. And he goes, he goes, he goes, these, these, these goddamn, these goddamn Pakistanis, they come here and they open up their swarmer shops. And I'm like, it's about to be prime for racism.

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know what they've done to you yeah then they're using fake outrage yeah to take you down to then further their own shit yeah those cunts are the most talentless twats that are online. They can't just create content people like. So they're looking for that all the time. Yeah. And they're tapping into like existing feeling. So they're just going,

what are these people already mad at? I'll give them something more for that. Literally. Like I grew up, like I've had people like call me all sorts of like anti this, anti that. I'm like, I have no idea.

The people I grew up with, who I am, anything like that that like you couldn't be further from the truth yeah yeah but yeah that's that's the thing that annoys me most like the cloud chasing pods or the cloud chasing creators it it just frustrates me if they acknowledge it and they're like listen like we can't make content that people like without causing beef, then I'd actually be okay with it. But acting as if you're doing it through virtue. Oh, I fucking hate it. I have to expose this. I hate virtue signals.

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tries to cloud chase. You've nailed it. And those podcasts out there... No girl that's interesting shows her tits. Yeah, exactly. Right? There's no interesting girl that's like, here's my pussy.

That is the last resort. That is boxing for women. Only fans are when the other things didn't work out. No, but for real, it's like you go there because there's nothing else you can do to make a living that's that much money or get attention. I love this. You don't think there's one porn star that's like thoughtful, interesting? One OnlyFans girl? You know what's going to be ironic?

But they can't make as much money doing that, and they don't want to put the time in to build that career when this is right there. Now, I'm also saying this as a guy who doesn't have that option if we were all able to just throw a pussy up on only fans and make millions of dollars we might not be in this library what about the ones who delude themselves you know what i mean the ones who so they'll post their gym picture with their ass crack right there and then in the caption it's like there's like multiple paragraphs of like you can be comfortable in your own body and like you know yo if you're explaining you're losing tom brady if you're explaining you're losing you know what the fuck you're posting and no girl that's making like there's no fucking ceo female ceo within only fans right there's no female ceo who's just like i'm comfortable with

my body here's my fucking crotch right yeah yeah i'm just saying, it's like, it is. Can you imagine a CEO of Pepsi had an OnlyFans? Yeah. Beyonce has some OnlyFans. Can you imagine a CEO

of Pepsi had an OnlyFans when they get crazy? I mean, we would buy it in a fucking heartbeat. And there's probably a CEO of a poor company that has an OnlyFans.

Which one? I don't know. There's probably one. I don't know. I'm not familiar enough with porn companies. I bet the CEO of OnlyFans doesn't have an OnlyFans.

Facts. Yeah, they're running OnlyFans. But I'm like, this guy, this girl has a studio. How much of OnlyFans doesn't have an OnlyFans. Facts. Yeah, they're running OnlyFans. But I'm like, this guy's a big girl. How much are OnlyFans like men making? Because obviously the women

are making a fucking fortune. I mean, Tyga's making money by thinking he's fucking girls. But like, you need women to make money if you're being naked. Like,

male models don't make a lot of money. Male strippers don't make a lot of money. This is just like, nobody wants to see us naked. I'm pretty sure male porn stars don't because it always says at the start, if you want to be in the videos, you're right here. I'm like sure I'm a porn star because it always says at the start if you want to be in the videos

I'm like I don't want to be in the video shout out to you for watching the start yeah you like the whole build it's the build up

you know what I mean I like my I like my porn like I like my fights I need build up you know what I mean we can't just get to the main event

give me something to invest in yeah 100 100% yeah I have a question what's uh what's the origin of your back and forth with Andrew Tate Andrew Tate oh Andrew was on um I did a like a bit of a comedy show where we just do like little bits of news bit of joke here and there and I'd seen some videos from back in 2018 because he basically has been chasing fame for years. People don't realize this guy is the most desperate fame hungry person.

He was in Big Brother. I knew he was in Big Brother. He's wanted to be famous for years because the guys, I don't know, there's some issues there. I don't know what's going on. But I just literally was like,

the way this guy talks about women is like, as we all know yeah fucking joke yeah so we got it what's that i thought he got it i thought he got it you thought you was bang on did you finally someone gets it finally finally someone is speaking out for all the men so yeah like and there was footage of him fucking hitting women and all sorts of wild shit. And me and my boy were like, yeah, we'll throw him in. But bear in mind, he was like seventh on the list of stories to talk about back in 2008, Ian.

So he was in there and him having the ego he has, he was all crying about it, hating me. And I was like, okay, moving on. And all like crying about it like hating me and i was like okay moving on like and i just forgot about it and like from that moment on he's like someone challenged me like and i'm like i don't give a fuck mate like you know what i mean so um so he's still talking about it to this day and i'm like i'm living in your head renfrew man you're literally so bothered about me like everyone's talking about him he's talking shit. Why do you think that you got under his skin? Because we're very good

at what we do. Like, we, we, we psychoanalyze people with like minimal effort. Like, you know,

you could, like, this is a guy who missed a few hugs of his mother. I think we can all agree there's a man there. You know, because my mother would say,

judge a man by how he talks about his mother and women in general will fold suit as well. Right? And I go, I, we joke in general will fold suit as well, right? And I'm like, we've choked on... What did I say about my mom?

She's getting good dick. Yeah, and so she should, man. So she should. Y'all don't care if your mom's getting good dick. None of y'all care. This guy missed a few hugs, you know what I mean? Clearly. It's a sad state of affairs, you know what I mean?

If Mrs. Tate had fucking... I'm sorry. You gotta give us a second to laugh at this guy. He talks crazy, man. They're making fun of me, bro. They think that I'm Andrew Tate, bro. Just because my mom is Scottish and doesn't hug as much. She left you on a swing one time.

She left you on a swing? She did leave me on a swing and I got a rash, but it is what it is, okay? I forgive. I feel sorry for him, if anything, to be honest with you. Because this is the thing. All that money, clearly still miserable. You know what I mean? There's so much anger there.

Where is that coming from? You think it's real? Huh? You think it's real? I think it's a funny character. No, no, no. No. This has been going on for years.

This has been a buildup of him trying to get people to be, wow. It's his genius zone. But like, but is it though? Like, is that what you want to be known for? Is that really like, you're a piece of shit towards women? Well done. That's your legacy. Yeah.

Well done, man. Yeah. There's always going to be a place on the internet for guys explaining to incels that they can't get laid because women hate them. Millions of percent. Like this guy, the Netflix documentary that they've just done, The Most Hated Man on the Internet. It's literally Andrew Tate,

but like 10 years ago. This is not the first time we've seen this. This guy, what is it, areyouup.com or whatever the fuck? This is Andrew Tate. It's the same guy. Now, that being said,

You're not even original. At least be original, you prick. You know what i mean now now if he was a wrestling character and he said the lines that he said objectively funny uh i i can find humor in it objectively but the problem is right and he has the problem is women don't put their body count on their forehead. No, but the problem is, he means it. Like, if you look at this guy's track record, there's some dark shit there. Like, we're all laughing. Oh, it's a big...

This guy literally has some issues with women. Like, this guy has raised his hands with women. Oh, really? Like, if you look on his Wikipedia, human trafficking and rape are all in the Wikipedia bro so like the R word? um you know

like if you if you're that much of a fucking expert with women why are you having to force the issue bro oh shit that's what I would say

but is that like a fact that he was well I mean it's on his Wikipedia so I'm assuming there's some truth to it it must be real yeah I mean

there's videos of him slapping women around online really yeah but like this is the thing is TikTok is the weirdest place because I'm assuming there's some truth to it. It must be real. Yeah, I mean, there's videos of him slapping women around online. Really? Yeah, but, like, this is the thing is, TikTok is the weirdest place because anywhere else, you can't get famous while doing all that shit. That's not true.

But TikTok, they're, like, pretty funny, right? That's not true. YouTube Shorts is how Andrew found out about it. Fair play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Andrew Shorts is on the mom issues of YouTube Shorts. You really think that he just needs a hug that's what it is

his mother needs to come back in his life like let's be real here where is she someone needs to have a word where do you think I don't know man I think she's

it sounds like he got under your skin a little bit oh he got under my skin it sounds like it I think I'm not the one who's been talking about him for four years bro I'm literally

this is the first time I've ever talked about him really you've asked me I couldn't give a shit about Andrew Tate. Really? Would you box him

or celebrity boxing? Well, he has a fighting background. If, well, I mean, if he comes to me in my face, I would absolutely punch him in the face. But am I going to make effort to go running every morning?

No. I don't care. You know, he's not worth that. He's not worth that. I respect't care. You know, he's not worse than that. He's not worse than that. I respect that so much. You know, we can do it right here, right now,

but I'm not getting in a ring and making an effort. He's not worse than that. I can fight anybody, but if I do, I want to do it working. It comes down to that, bro. I've got a podcast to make.

I've got a business to run. I'm not going to take time out and worry about Andrew Tate. Do you know what I mean? I'm not like him. I'm not going to take time out to worry about Andrew Tate I'm not like him I'm not daddy's little rich boy I've got to earn my shit to get here so let's get that out there he's a little rich boy as well

oh he come from money I'm not just talking about the human traffic I'm talking about the money that came before the money no doubt I've given him a load of fucking content today. This will keep him going for another four fucking years. Don't worry, you guys are going to be best friends in like two years. Yeah, I'll be making money off of his fucking dumb ass as well, will I?

So, Andrew, you're fighting Floyd Mayweather. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. He's not fighting. To be fair, Battle of the Rapists, him and Floyd, that will be He's not fighting. To be fair, Battle of the Rapists, him and Floyd, that will be for a giveaway. To be fair,

Battle of the Rapists, let's get on. Don King, you're welcome. I've given you the title of the fight, mate. Go for it. Who's the biggest rapist?

Rumble of the Rapists. Yes. Rumble. Oh, shit. Oh, fuck, dude. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. Mark brought this up once.

He goes, a joke. Not like I'm saying something on a podcast as if I mean it, but you don't really know. But a clear, like, misdirection, punchline, cancellation. I mean, Shane is the closest one. Well, I don't think Shane was canceled for the joke. He wasn't doing a bit. Like, if you see Shane's actual stand-up, it's nothing like the thing that he got canceled for.

Yeah. And you pose the question, I'm like, I don't know if that's happened to anybody. I mean, maybe possibly Kevin Hart. But that's a tweet. Chappelle. I mean, he's not canceled, but that's a massive controversy.

Chappelle has, as Rogan would call it, escape velocity, meaning, like, sometimes you're so big, you just can't, but that's a massive controversy. Chappelle has, as Rogan would call it, escape velocity, meaning like sometimes you're so big, you just can't pull him down. Elon has that. It doesn't matter what the fuck Elon does. He's like attached to too many things. Like getting Elon out of here would like lose like the government money. So they're like, all right, fucking let it be.

You can only be canceled if you allow it though, isn't it? Talk to me about that. Like what we were talking about earlier about a friend of ours who uh allowed it you know you want the minute you go into hiding and you just try and run away and that's when the cancellation is you running from people's opinions of you that's really cancellation that's the food they get hungry they love it imagine how fucked up your life's got to be though for you to worry about that that's pretty sad. Just sitting on Reddit,

fucking hours and hours and hours going by every day. Brutal. Yeah. I feel for those guys. They missed a few hugs as well. You think so? Absolutely. So wait a minute.

Do you think the reason why... Oh, this is interesting. The reason why you're able to be so honest with what's going on in your life. I love myself. And you love yourself because your mom loved you. Well, yeah,

but also I'm also a decent guy. So I'm cool with all the, all of the little things about me that I don't think are great. I'm like, you're a good man underneath it. All of that is, yeah, it's fucked up. And yeah,

you've made this mistake and yeah, you did this thing and whatever. And you regret that. But the point is, is I'm a good guy. So that's all up. And yeah, you've made this mistake. And yeah, you did this thing and whatever. And you regret that. But the point is, is I'm a good guy. So that's all right. And sometimes when someone loves us, it makes us feel like we're lovable.

And the people that don't ever get that love, I think it's hard for them to even be around people that embrace them because they're like, well, if you love me, then something must be wrong with you. You know what I'm saying? Like as therapized as it sounds, like if you love yourself, then something must be wrong with you. You know what I'm saying? Like, as therapized as it sounds, like, if you love yourself, you can accept love. Unfortunately, I think so much shit comes back to our upbringings.

And when you have a fucked up upbringing where, like, let's be honest, it's no coincidence that serial killers, their childhoods weren't that good. Yeah. Funny that. You don't say. Really. You know, like the ones who, like, fuck their mother's skull after cutting their head off. Didn't have a great upbringing.

That's why I'm able to look at people like Andrew Tate and go, clearly some... I mean, your dad was a chess player. Probably, I don't imagine chess players are that loving. You know what I mean? He spends hours a day moving trying to capture the queen. It's not really the most like giving personality trait.

Interesting. Yeah. He plays a board game fucking 12 hours a day. Yeah. You know what I mean? Maybe he should have been paying attention to his son. That's all I'm saying. This is probably going to annoy him a little bit.

I don't know. Maybe it's true though. Maybe he'll look at himself within himself and go, my God, my dad should have put down the chessboard do you think this is my do you know what my dad was doing my dad was in jail my dad was a real bad motherfucker my dad would fucking stab you you know what i mean my dad broke people's legs for a living at points yeah really uh he found the time to give you a hug. Sure is.

He really did. He really did. When he got out, he gave the best hugs. Do you know what I mean? What a guy. Dad, thanks.

Appreciate you. Do you know what I mean? And I still turned out better than Andrew Tate. So there you go. Dude. Do you think the reason why he brands himself as the king

is because he he wants his father to protect him king of what you know what I mean king of what Romania I guess

drive your little fucking fast cars and whatever but ultimately like I look at people like that and I think I just want you to be happy

just be happy do you know what I mean yeah did it take you time to be happy just be happy yeah i mean yeah did it take you time to be happy oh yeah it did yeah when did that start when did happiness start well it all started not the bullshit like i buy a car i'm happy i'm talking about like i kind of accept myself yeah uh i'd say uh ironically you know i think it may have happened like in the last few years where i've just been like oh i'm actually all right with all of that stuff like ironically you know I think it may have happened like in the last few years where I've just been like

oh I'm actually alright with all of that stuff like when you know when you get shamed publicly it's a gift and a curse because all of a sudden everyone's laughing you're like

oh you're the damn guy but then in my head like after I'd come out with that I was like you're free yeah I am you're free fuck it

yeah do you know what I mean fuck it like whatever you want to think about me it's cool and that it's like the most freeing thing in the world there's a guy who wrote a book about it called so you've been publicly shamed and it's all about that experience that people go through some people hang themselves

some people can't get through it yeah and then the other people powerful yeah the other side is powerful it's really it's like what are you gonna say i don't give a fuck i've went through it and i still feel good about myself i I can go through it again. It's the same thing we were talking about. It's easier every time, by the way. So like any little thing that people brush up against me now when they're like, like if someone threatens me with anything, I'm like, the first time went well, go for it.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is a, yeah. Bouncing back. There is a power to that, to the resilience. Oh, I'm a resilient motherfucker. I mean like, yeah, bouncing back, there is a power to that, to the resilience. Oh, I'm a resilient motherfucker, me, like.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, why do you think? Oh, no, no. What builds resilience? And can you build that in a kid without them experiencing fucked up shit?

You know what I think builds resilience is like, that's what we were talking about before. It's the love and as corny as it sounds but if that love is putting you early early on and you feel that love yeah you're like no like whenever that it's about a crossover into i am shit i am worse than anything i everything that they are saying is true about me it's like underneath all of that there's that person who loved you from day one who makes you go, no, you are a good person. You are these things.

Don't let them win. You know what I mean? I think that's where the strength comes from. I agree. Yeah, I agree. You need that foundation. So it's like, it's love, but there's always the fear of parents, which is like coddling. I've heard this a lot of times with parents, especially with fathers, right?

The fathers, my dad wasn't like this. My dad was like like he was the love factory for me but a lot of times you hear even like my friends who are having kids now I don't want them to be soft chess players are notoriously like that that's a tough thing they're tough guys

chess players really they're raising some hard men out there you know what I mean I thought it was like the people who are in prison stabbing people what do you want to be careful about but it's a chess player you go watch out for the quiet ones it's tough oh my god dude okay all right so outside of as chess players, what... They're just dark. Yeah, it gets dark, right? The dark arts.

The dark arts of chess. The Harry Potter's of chess. Absolutely, man. So you have kids. How are you going to make your kids resilient? You've got to... Without them going through fucked up things that you went through. You don't want your kids to experience the trauma you went through, right?

No. No. No. When the time comes, I'd want to be a good dad and make sure that I'm loving, caring, plenty of hugs, plenty of attention, all the good stuff in life, show them how to treat people well. That's all you need to do. Are you going to ban chess in your household? No chess. Honestly,

such a weird guy, isn't it? Such a weird guy. I still can't believe it. Like, this came out recently and I was like, he's still talking about me?

That was, genuinely, we made a video in 2018. I've never spoken about him since. So weird, man. Really? Yeah. Can you think about this, right?

You make a joke in 2018. Yeah. Someone's still talking about it four years later. Did you say something that really stung? I guess I've just got a habit of putting my finger on the... Where it hurts. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Call it how I see it. But hopefully he takes this one a bit better. Would you play him in chess for charity? I think that may be something we should set up. Yeah, because I'm all about charity. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I raised 100 grand for disabled children last year.

100 grand for spouses. That's pretty impressive. There you go. You can't say that. I'm in America. You just can't call them retards. Whatever you want to call them is fine. But the main thing is I'm looking after them. Don't you worry. I whatever whatever you want to call them is fine but the main thing is

I'm looking after them don't you worry I got them how'd you raise the 100 grand definitely not jogging we did well actually you're wrong

get the fuck out of here we played we played soccer we did a influence a five-a-side tournament and we had like a big-time footballer

turn up and Twitch donated we got all the people to donate. Raised the children's hospital slash accommodation. It cost them 250 grand a year to stay open. And we raised 100 grand. We're going to do it again this year.

It's going to be great. We need to do some charity. Yeah. Every time I see this charity. Do you know who doesn't do charity work? Who? Andrew Tate. Is that right? We need to start a charity. We need to start a charity. The Pl know who doesn't do charity work? Who? Andrew Tate.

We need to start a charity. The Plagiarist Fund. But every time I try to suggest it, you push back. Yeah, Mark is not into it. He wants all the money to go to the church. What is it about helping the starving or whatever that you don't want to do? You know so little about charity. I bring it up so much all the time. This guy has never

donated a pound. I'm like, we should guy has never donated a pound. For years. I'm like, we should start a donation or a fund. For years. He's really trying to make himself look good now. No, I suggested it. When was the first time I brought this up to you?

And you made it a whole Jesus thing. Fucking dork. You did. You made it a whole Jesus thing. I just look like him. That's why. He brought it up to me no shit a week ago. Yeah, to you.

When did I bring it up to you? I brought it up to you two years ago. I said, why don't we help some people? Why don't we use our newfound influence and riches to help people? Who would you like to help? You said Jesus, dude. I said that? Yes.

Why does Jesus need money? That doesn't sound like you. You said, let's give it to the church. The church knows what to do with it. Okay, that actually wouldn't be the worst option, okay? But I feel like we could give it to people directly. And then you said this, which was weird. You were like, well, why don't we just give it to the government?

Because they know how to spend money effectively yeah it was weird that you said that exactly we get some new roads or something exactly but i thought that maybe we should do a charity and i think that we should help i don't know what do you what do you think well pick your favorite one just pick the one that you donate to the most probably jews a fucking landlord every month i'm giving them a goddamn donation out of my fucking bank account I hope they're doing something with that

fucking money you can't just pick an ethnic group and just be like oh that's who I'm donating to that's not how that works struggling podcasters can we do that

I've heard that's it they really need our help right now Drew Geordie out here funny dog holy shit like Nile Ranger I mean you've got

you've got no so okay shout out to Nile bro I saw him work at the Tesco dude I walked down to the there's a guy you don't want to cross why he's a big man

he's about 6'5 6'5 yeah whoa can he knuckle up I would think so yeah yeah I think he's pretty tough

to be fair to him and he wasn't trying to be tough with you at all no he was lovely actually really yeah breath smell good yeah

yeah fire I didn't get that close oh okay okay I'm assuming it's a big deal yeah yeah

okay well look listen I know we don't have all night with you Brian but before we leave I want to be here

to answer any questions that you have about America before you come because I think that you're gonna come over

I've never been you've never been to America wait are you a fel're going to come over I've never been you've never been to America are you a felon or something like that I've never been to America can you legally come to America I'm not like John Fury or anything oh what's it called

you know what that was about but about the mafia the Irish mafia yeah fucking mad right but the tricky thing is I actually understand Tommy's situation

Tommy's just been roped into this sort of thing. Yeah. And you can't exact, because what they're using him is for leverage, right? Like they're going to bring him into the fucking office, ask all about it. And Tommy's just like, I'm just fucking hanging around these people.

Tommy's the last person you're going to ask anything to. Wait, really? Well, he's just a kid, you know what I mean? He's like a good looking lad, but he's not like. He seems kind of sweet to me. But he's not going gonna hack into NASA anytime soon you know what I mean you guys don't have to worry about national security

with Tommy Fury what are you saying well I'm just not saying he's not the smartest person you'll ever meet in your life he's just a nice guy he's a nice guy but is he like a fucking idiot was that what you were saying there's a lot of furies there's only one andrew tay i've got to be

i've got to be careful with these furies no i like the furies they're good people no no i do i actually i felt bad for tommy because i know that situation where like he put him in two million bro and he it was robbed from him just because he knew a guy yeah yeah and it would be hard for him if he went in there and started answering questions oh yeah yeah that's not worth two million right like that's more stress for everybody yeah i think his dad seen it coming because his dad did a video on social beforehand being like we can't go to america so it's got to be somewhere else and i think he knew like oh fuck yeah because his dad's been his dad can't get into america because he gouged a man's eye out years ago really i don't

know if you know about Big John, but Big John's a character. Is his dad a bad man? His dad's a bad motherfucker. Talk to me. For sure. He's a big guy. He's in his 50s,

and you think to yourself, not many 50-year-old men who you'd probably think twice about in that regard, but he's up there. Big guy. His hands are like shovels. He's more intimidating than Tyson Fury. Get out of here.

Yeah, because he's the guy who created Tyson he's fucking crazy he's just like yeah and you gotta drink 30 Diet Cokes a day to cope with what

your dad did to you that's probably a scary motherfucker oh yeah he gouged it says on the internet he gouged a man's eye out over a debt

you know what I mean yeah that makes sense he was a journeyman boxer. I remember that. Yeah, like Bayonet and all that as well. But very talented, actually, apparently. I think that's probably why he put his sons into it and trained them up, you know?

I mean, Tyson... You know when Tyson beat Deontay Wilder, they had a live camera on John in this country because he couldn't get in the mirror. And he screams at the camera and he goes, that's what's come out of these balls. Like the ultimate pro dad comment, isn't it?

Fucking crazy. There's a great conversation that he has on the phone with his dad. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's, that's almost made me cry, dude. Like it was super,

it was so vulnerable. You're the best man that ever lived. Bro. I was, I was too strong for him, dad. I rolled him right over. Oh dude, that's great. It was so cool. I love that moment. Oh, that's amazing. vulnerable and he was just the best man that ever lived bro and i was i was too strong for him dad i rolled him right over oh dude that's great it was so cool i love that moment oh that's amazing yeah he seemed like a little kid this is the heavyweight champ in the world he looked like

he was 13 years old still still still a child though in that moment yeah yeah yeah that's what happens when your family loves you yeah real talk real talk. Like, yo, it was... Honestly, this is maybe a hot take about Tyson. I think that Tyson is the greatest heavyweight ever. I think he's the greatest, which makes him probably the... I don't know. What's the boxing expert saying, though? What do you think?

I agree with that one. Yeah? Do you mean that in the sense of... For heavyweight, yes. If they all fought... If they all fought each other, I don't think anybody could be Tyson. Because of... Right, okay.

I think the size, the skill, now the power. Earlier in his career, he didn't see this power, and all of a sudden, he's just fucking dropping people. I think Yusuke could give him some trouble. He's so small, dude.

He's not. Yusuke's what, 6'2"? No, but when you meet Tyson, although he's like, he has weaknesses as well, though. He's big, but if you, so if you watch Anthony Joshua versus Alexander Yusik and then right afterwards watch Deontay Wilder versus Tyson Fury how slow

the Fury Wilder fight went is alarming you realize the pace that Yusik sets is light speed so I'm not saying that Yusik would beat Tyson but i think he'll give him a lot of problems this is the fittest heavyweight we've ever seen no one is as fit as yusuk no one not at that size like he's six foot three as well people think he's a small man he's massive but what happens when tyson starts leaning on him what happens when he grabs him up and he leans on him and you got 300 whatever fucking pounds he is i don't I don't think he can get close enough with how fast Yusuke is to employ that. You can do that to a wilder who's gassed after two rounds. Yusuke's feet never stop moving for 12 rounds.

He does four minute rounds with 30 seconds rest in training. He is the fittest guy. I'm not saying that. I just think calling it over and done, like Fury's talking right now about, oh, I'm the greatest. I'm the greatest of my generation. You haven't fought AJ.

You haven't fought Yusuke. Lennox Lewis fought everyone. Lennox is the other one. Yeah. Right. And Lennox got caught by Hasim Rahman. I think that hurts the legacy, but like Lennox was the other one.

I was like, I don't really see anybody beating him before that. It was like, and again, this isn't even my generation just watching it. Like Larry Holmes was fucking unbelievable, right? I mean, were you, no, you're younger than me. I went back and watched, though.

Like, I interviewed Muhammad Ali's grandson recently. I don't know if you've seen that. The kid who's boxing now? Yeah. And it's called, like, The Legacy Continues. Yeah. And I was watching all Muhammad Ali videos. I mean, Ali was unbelievable.

Ali also at, like, the peak weight. Is it fair to compare someone more and say greatest ever when without Muhammad Ali, Fury ain't going to be doing half the shit he's doing right now. Like is the innovator, the original creator, the greatest? Or is the guy who watched that and went, oh, let me put my, you know what I mean? I mean, like when it comes to boxing, it's like who would win? Like that's just what I guess if you're saying that, then Fury's probably right up there, yeah. Who is the most influential?

Like, yeah, nobody's going to be compared to Ali. It is tough with 50 years of science, technology, everything else. Because who knows? What if Muhammad Ali was raised now? Like, he'd probably fight at cruiserweight, and he'd be like the most dominant cruiserweight ever. Or he would have grown up a lot bigger, because he would have been fed a lot more,

and he would have been a huge guy. But I think that Fury's's wins his best wins against uh klitschko and dionte they don't there's just not enough of a legacy right now for me to go like when you look at what lennox did or what muhammad all the wars muhammad ali like to me being great is not just winning all the time being great is like overcoming adversity and no one had more than Muhammad Ali because when his legs were gone he came back

the guy was a punching bag at times and he still overcome it I mean that's what led to the last thing you want to know about yourself as a boxer

is you have a great jaw and early in his career he was never touched and later in his career he found out that he could take a hit I mean that Frazier fight

where he gets his jaw broken and then goes to decision I mean that's insane have fight where he gets his jaw broken and then goes to decision. I mean, that's insane. Have you seen Mike Tyson's clip where they say, like, what do you think of Muhammad Ali compared to you? And Tyson starts crying. He's like, he's willing to die for this. And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not him.

That was when I was like. No, Ali is a different. Dude, my pops was a journalist and he would get to interview Ali a lot. And he has like, he's like footage of him, like shadowboxing Muhammad Ali. It's like the craziest thing ever. And Ali is a joke. What do you box? Oranges?

And, but he asked Ali before Frazier. He goes, dude, not a Frazier. He asked Ali before Foreman. He goes, how are you going to beat this guy? Like this, this, if people don't remember, like when foreman fought fraser which was before ali he hit fraser with an uppercut that lifted him off the canvas like the power was different like nobody had seen this before right so the the idea that ali was gonna come back and like fight him it was like what are you crazy like how he goes how are you gonna beat this guy and he goes um he goes Ali goes you know here's the thing like you you do what you do all these people you

do what you do you know how to be a journalist scientists know how to be scientists like I know how to box I'm just gonna get it done it's simple as that like there's not even a question in my mind I'm gonna beat this guy and you're stupid to think that I'm not gonna beat him like the supreme confidence everybody thought it was bullshit and he goes out there and he fucking gets it done and that wasn't the original strategy the robodump was not the original strategy but he just found a fucking way did you hear foreman's interview on the way foreman was like i hit him and it was just like i never experienced yeah he said i felt like i was in there with someone on a sort of like supernatural yeah

like like and I think that the power of the mind is like you really see that in fighting sometimes like I think realistically

Tyson Fury probably shouldn't have won a few of his fights against Deontay Wilder like when he got nailed to the floor like when he got dropped twice in that round

how many fighters get back up and then knock this guy out but he's got it up there where the I think religion helps fighters as well well

this idea that like yeah like that God is with you in there and all of that like I think Muhammad Ali had that and one of my mates

who was a really high level amateur boxer box for Great Britain and that he was like I wish I was religious because it seems to fucking motivate the hell out of these fuckers

I'm fighting with do you know what I mean he's in there as a fucking atheist thinking for fuck's sake I wish God was religious because it seems to fucking motivate the hell out of these fuckers I'm fighting do you know what I mean he's in there as a fucking atheist thinking for fuck's sake I wish God was with me right now yeah

because like if they die in the ring they get to go to heaven aha he dies in the ring they're convinced that there's nothing to risk here

do you know what I mean yeah it's a huge advantage it removes the urgency of survival maybe they should make suicide bombers boxers

yes just saying whoa that's a great idea. That'd be a good promotion. That'd be crazy. There we go. I've been saying I want a Pakistani champion.

We could really just get this done. Lose up, lose himself. Okay. Sir, anything before you leave? Please tell the people where they can find you. I watch your podcast. I think it's great. You've got some amazing interviews up already.

So what I often tell people who have a podcast is don't say. I watch your podcast. I think it's great. You've got some amazing interviews up already. So what I often tell people who have a podcast is don't say just listen to the podcast. Tell them an interview that is a great example of your work and then they can just

start at that one. I'd say the Louis Theroux one has got to be up there. He's just the funniest dude and we talked about him being in there with the pedophiles and prison and all that and all these crazy all you crazy americans uh and then also i i also interviewed

a girl called elizabeth smart who was kidnapped for nine months yeah yeah yeah and that was one of those ones where i was like fuck me i might cry here like this was uh hearing about when she was taken at 14 years old by this crazy Mormon guy. Yeah. And it was like one of the most challenging as an interviewer interviews. So yeah, those are the, the, the two ends of the spectrum for me would be very,

uh, serious, like in depth or very funny and lighthearted. Okay. And then lastly, what is the dream podcast interview? Joe Rogan. And I hate to be cliche.

That's he's the goat, bro. No, but before i had a a prayer a job i was just sitting listening to his him and eddie bravo just chatting shit you know i'm a day one that sort of thing so i think it but it wouldn't necessarily i feel like i've heard everything he has to say it's just more of a just to sit with him and be like, hey, I did it. But aside from that, maybe like a, like a rapper, like, Andrew Tate, maybe.

Maybe not Andrew Tate. Nah, like Eminem or someone like that. Yeah. Like some global superstar, but more just to say, hey,

I did it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd like to get you on. I would love that. Absolutely.

Anytime. Next time you're back in the UK. 100%. Let's do it. I'm there. I think this is gonna be this is gonna be a fun one this is gonna go down well

yeah yeah cheers boys hey listen True Geordie go check out our shit support all his shit appreciate it really like

so impressed with everything you're doing out here I mean that thanks very much bro appreciate it killing it dude if you ever need a studio

I'll put you in mine please absolutely please I really mean that but no you were fucking crushing it. And like, yeah, I do not. I hope you don't give a flying fuck about mainstream acceptance because that is a sinking ship and you are on the rising tide.

So please do not care about that. Absolutely. Okay. Cheers, boys. Thanks very much.