Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Why Trump is Covering for Epstein & How Diddy Got Off

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

YERRR the boys are diving headfirst into the the headlines this week: From Diddy’s dropped charges, to new Epstein revelations & why the silence from certain elites is louder than ever. All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 0:00 FREE GHISLAINE + EPSTEIN WAS INNOCENT 17:40 Was this a cover-up? "He was intelligence" 24:36 Mutually Assured Destruction + Deep State influence 30:28 Trump not doing what he campaigned on 34:19 Israel's influence + Extremes are dominating 42:01 Does Presidents actually have the power? Lies begets lies 45:53 Democrat Socialists = only America first party + Consumption & Education 58:50 Healthcare reform + Military-Industrial Complex 1:04:02 Bibi toying with Trump + Fluff 1:05:51 Diddy's case + CA weird laws 1:09:11 Djokovic's last chance to win Wimbledon 1:10:29 Love bombing needs a rebrand 1:33:01 Lying that's cool for men + Like father, like son 1:36:11 B&H Jews are amazing 1:39:17 Disappointing day + Breaking trust in gov 1:47:05 Elite bloodlines + Central banks 1:52:29 Quickest way to get you to talk 1:55:29 Virtual Doctor visits + AI taking over 1:59:44 Dual loyalties Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody welcome to flagrant free just lane she has been wrongly in prison She was convicted guilty of something that clearly never happened ever happened after the fbi's Incredible research shout out to cockeyed cash patel I was looking at the documents double time and he was 100 certain that there was no rico charge No foul play. He's a pedophile but just him but only thousands of girls just him Yeah, the guy's busy and that list that they said that they had was a list of one name guys What the hell is going on? I will a lot of people and apologies this poor big-titted Wrangler

Child Wrangler excuse me child Wrangler Giselae Masemo has been locked up in Maine or Vermont or whatever Kush prison She's in for no reason. Yeah, does nobody feel bad about this unbelievable injustice Yeah, they're the real victim of this whole thing is Giselae and this guy who killed himself for nothing Forgetting massages from underage girls like Alex doesn't do that in Chinatown after They are in Chinatown just be honest Every single week. You never asked. You never asked how old they are in Chinatown. You can't even tell.

It could be 13 or 38. How do you know the judge they made when you've been down there in Chinatown not asking? It's not 80, but they look 60. I think I'm safe. Well, they always look 20 years younger. They always look a little bit younger. I'm safe. I'm safe.

I'm safe. All right. We believe you're safe. What I'm trying to say is... Only seen this. Yeah, Alex asked for the old ones. Even if it's in there, give me the oldest one. Yeah speaking of Alex Fuck no, I'm just gonna say that this is an abortion of justice

Yeah, we have to look at just laying in the bay she looks far more innocent I'll be honest when I saw her in that bathing suit. I always thought she was innocent. That's when you realized. Yeah Look at that bikini how you this American flag bikini she's a patriot and we got it locked up for no reason She's still a child for guys. She's a wrangler Child Wrangler and then the child is Jeffrey Epstein alone, nobody else. I mean, there's nobody else had anything to do with it. Yes, one of the richest men in America, Les Wexner, gave him full power of attorney over his estate, gave him quite possibly the most expensive apartment in New York City. I think it was like a whole brownstone at one point in time.

Just handed over to him and indeed gave him the power attorney To his billions of dollars. Yes that happened when he has no actual skill set whatsoever. Can you give us an apartment like what's up? I thought that was friendship Won't even let miles stay his house for two nights. Can we can we talk about this? Can we really talk about that? We thought that we're friends. Right? All of us here, over a decade of friendship. Yeah. I mean, combined. Can I get a couch in my hand?

Combined? That's some Epstein math right there. No, I'm serious. He's still 30 years old, combined. No, it's like, I've been friends with Akash for 10 years and I'm not friends with you guys. So, at least a decade of friendship. A decade of friendship.

Until you get into apartment, I don't believe it. You're the same as us. I know. with you guys. At least a decade of friendship. Until you get an apartment, I don't believe it. You're the same as us. I don't think that we've been treating each other as real friends. We've had loyalty and support and kindness and love, but there's no point in time where I just gave you power of attorney over my finances. I never gave you a building. We could look into this. We could start I mean cuz everything we've done for you I gave you a Dom Perignon bottle Lenny Craven That's a collector's I know now the value of that has gone up so much by the way I gosh gave you Solana

Which is zero and that Dom It's actually a better gift let the record show yeah, is, you know what, I should take that back. And I appreciate that. You getting me the Lenny Kravitz Dom Perignon is one of the greatest, I think that was a gift for my marriage. I believe I got married and you decided to get me a Lenny Kravitz bottle of Dom Perignon.

It's the only one they had. It was the only one they had. So you got me the one nobody wanted. Exactly. That was your thoughtful gift. It goes in the dark. Yeah, it was the only one they had you got me the one nobody wanted Imagine is one night. He's opening it up and now his wife sees a hotter guy What is it going for now, bro? It's easily 250 bucks now. Come on, dude. Oh! Oh, that shit.

It's gone up a lot, okay? That's a thousand dollar bottle of champagne? Yeah! Yes! I thought it was like a 30 dollar bottle of champagne. No! Dom Perignon is expensive. I don't look up the prices of gifts.

Lenny Kravitz edition, dude. I'm telling you. Yo, that's five. That's a thousand dollar bottle of champagne. That's $1,000 bottle of champagne. That's definitely worth more than mine. $5,000 of crypto. I should have told you to sell it that day. It was $7,500.

Then the next day it went down to like $3,000. Give him the money. You're going to sell it that day. God, listen. Free Ghislaine, man. Give him the gift, he'll sell it immediately. $75,000, $8,000, right there, bang. Free Ghislaine, bro. I wish you bang! Ugh, free the lame, bro.

I wish it well. So, listen, and here's the reality. I think that we just... I don't wish it well. Can we just address something? Like, people make mistakes when they speak a lot, right? Like when Pam Bondi was like, the videos are so vile of all the sex porn, right? Like the district attorney, is that what her...

What does she do? What is her position? What is her... Do we know? I don't know the official one He's no facts Pam bondy works for Trump. That's all we need to know chatter bar. Just Trump's bitch. Yeah Attorney general is the Attorney General just the district attorney for the country. I guess so Yeah, the district is the country attorney got it

Okay So yeah when she came out and said that there were the there, the client list was there, the files were there, that the videos, the tons of the videos were there, she now is saying she misspoke. She just said that the thing was on her desk. The files, the case files. Yeah, that happens. Yes. Don't you misspeak about like thousands of hours of footage of adults having sex with

children? Isn't that something you would misspeak about? You would be a little flippant in the way that you described that, right? Exactly. You would oopsie daisy that. of hours of footage of adults having sex with children. Isn't that something you would misspeak about? You would be a little flippant in the way that you described that, right? You would oopsie daisy that. It happens all the time. I go to your wedding, you go, where's my gift?

I say, it's on my desk right now. I promise, it's not sitting on a liquor store alone, okay? It is on my desk today. What do you think the guy said when you walked out of the liquor store? You think he was like, man, I didn't think that there was people that fucking retarded that would buy a Lenny Kravitz edition.

You know it doesn't even say Lenny Kravitz on the bottle. How'd you know it was Lenny Kravitz edition? He just told him that in the liquor store, and he believed it. That's not true. That's not true, bro. He definitely thought it would be a girl buying that bottle though.

He's like, who's this? This is a bitch. No. No. Al, did you just misspeak? Ow, I think you misspoke. I misspoke, I misspoke. My bad, my bad. I think you misspoke.

It had to be the only bottle left because why, I've never heard Schultz utter the term Lenny or Kravitz in my life. I didn't know I heard him talk about Zoey Kravitz. Proud, proud graduate of PS6. Oh, y'all both went to the same elementary school? Went to the same elementary school. It goes so deep.

You know what I mean? Like that's what we came up with. Speaking of Epstein. He knew that. Speaking of Epstein. Wait a second. Proud graduate of PS6. You went for 25 years, actually.

So, speaking of Epstein, you know, for the 100 year, for the centennial, they dug open this, you know, the thing that you put underground? Time capsule. Time capsule, right? So they dug open a time castle and I was at the school during that time. My dad even went to PS6. And the centennial was on a Friday or something like that. On a Thursday, this black dude with dreads and his shirt unbuttoned was just walking

the perimeter of the yard, just kinda looking in and seeing what's going on. And all the kids were like, what the fuck is going on? Like, this is kind of like peculiar. The teachers were like asking around. Apparently he mixed up the days of the centennial. Like he wanted to come on the Friday, but thought it was a Thursday.

So he's just stalking the gates, staring at children with an unbuttoned shirt on the upper east side and didn't get arrested. That's what America used to be. Yeah, dude before mom Donnie came Yeah, Julian is America. Yeah black guys can walk around freely Now my Donnie's out here getting kicking the Jews out. Yeah Okay, so so can we just kind of understand what's going on? Can we understand what's going on here?

Because obviously this whole blackmail ring that has tied in American presidents, Israeli prime ministers, the royal family, this is all allegedly, obviously. Now that we know that that is completely false and all these people were just good friends Yeah, you know they were just like hanging out like Bill Gates going to like someone who has already been Convicted of the pedophilia just go in his house to talk business is like a normal thing Yeah, there's no way that this is like some entrenched blackmail scheme intelligence scheme Possibly that that would be impossible right because yeah, if you're Bill Gates, you would have so much to lose going to a pedophile's house. Yeah, yeah.

Right? Why would you do business with that guy? Exactly, so he must be a big misunderstanding. Yeah, absolutely. Got it. I don't know why they wouldn't just be like, yo, it was Prince Andrew. Because isn't he already besmirched?

But now I think we gotta forgive him. We gotta forgive him. We gotta unsmirch. We just took a picture. Yeah, yeah. Just took a picture of the girl who accused him of being a pedophile. And then like, I mean, why don't we just ask that girl one more time. If that girl, if...

RIP, bruh. Oh, she's dead. Probably from lying. That was the guilt of lying about it. That's what got her. No, no, no, she's obviously, hey, we gotta believe, we gotta believe these guys. So this woman's a liar, all these women are liars. Listen. And, oh, what are you gonna do?

Akash, as Kakad Kash said, he said, we cannot re-victimize these girls. Yes. Right, because that's what these girls want the most. Oh, right. They don't want justice that they've been clamoring for for the last few decades. They don't wanna be re-victimized.

So every time they say, hey, please, can you just get those bad guys who re-victimized us up a lot? What do you think they mean when they say that? Don't victimize me. Like, do it, but don't do it through victimization. I've already been through being a victim once. This is worst victimhood, is justice. So you're telling me there's a thousand girls that have been re-victimized by Epstein and none of his cohorts? Correct. None of his cohorts. Okay, correct none of his cohorts So they should celebrate none of them want to be good. Say again. They should be celebrating cuz they got the only guy You're right. Finally justice is served us this. Yeah, and they released the footage from the cell the two floors down

Wasn't even his cell. It's like around the corner coffee So the legend was on the case immediately. Shout out to Suspenders. God, I love this guy. Love you, dog. He did like a whole sort of like 10 minute video on the video, on the 10 hours that was released from the jail.

And? Which originally they said there was like no video tape of his cell, so they released footage nearby that his cell is actually like around the corner, like up the stairs or some shit. Oh, what a, you know. And so they show the video with a minute missing. That minute, according to Pan Bondi,

is from when the camera's like reset. So you know how you got the footage and then it resets. So basically the camera goes. That's a good recording device, Mark. If you wanted a recording device to record every second of a day, just in case something happened, it would probably be the highest security jail in the world. It would probably be pretty smart

for there just to be a minute long gap. Yeah, periodically, like over and over. By the way. In the suicide watch section of all sections. In the suicide watch section, and by the way, there was no video. Yeah. The other cameras function 10 days before.

Yeah. Stopped recording 10 days before. Be no that is, you film your stand-up shows. All the time. And then you'll film, and then one minute in the middle of your hour, it'll reset. Yeah, exactly. And then whenever it resets, that's a-

No, it's a minute. There is an opportunity for a camera company- I had a guy commit suicide at my show, it was during the minute that the camera was resetting. Yeah, those who hate that, you're like, that could've been a clip. That could've been a clip. Yeah.

And so they said- You killed on stage, but been a clip. That could've been a clip. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so they said. You killed on stage, but they missed it. Technically, he didn't kill. That's true. That's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, that's a bad look at a show. Like, why are these members killing themselves?

But they said that they're gonna release footage from the day before and the day after to prove that the minute's missing. That the minute misses every single day at the same time, because every day records. Oh, that's, you can't doctor that in every few sets. Now question. They got some slow ass editors, man. Is there any way,

is there any way that they can get us the footage of the cell or of a cell close to his? Can we see the people moving around? I don't think prisons have surveillance like that. I think they just film in the corners. Got it. Like, only corners. That makes sense. I mean, in the most surveillance like that. I think they just film in the corners. Like only corners. That makes sense. I mean, in the most like, you know,

technologically advanced country in the history of the world, it makes sense. This is from years ago, bro. This is from 2019. Full of criminals. Oh yeah, 2019. Yeah. Did we even have cameras back then? I don't even think we did. This is filmed on a fucking beeper, bro.

They don't have any of that shit. Unbelievable. This is years ago. Yeah. Why, why did we, why did we fall for this? Why do we fall for it every time? Why are we so gullible? We're the idiots, honestly. We really ago. Yeah, why did we fall for this? Why do we fall for it every time? Why are we so gullible? We're the idiots, honestly. We really are. Yeah.

Why do we want to believe? It's really on us. Why do we, we're such crazy conspiracy theorists. Why do we want to believe that there's a blackmail ring where they're honeypotting with underage girls? Why do we want that? What's wrong with us? That's a good point.

There's no smoke here at all. Yeah. It's just us, just running wild with our imaginations. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Why is Trump dog not running for it? You know what I mean? Can you play when he fucking, what he said?

Oh, this is so funny, by the way, in the full context of understanding what's going on. Yeah. Because he's doing a press, like basically a press conference regarding these horrific floods that happened in Texas where many children got swept away. Yeah.

So you care about kids a lot. So he's talking about children's lives. Then they bring up Epstein and he's like, what are you bringing up Epstein for? We're talking about kids that are missing. You know what I mean? We're not going to talk about the other kids that are missing. Why do you keep talking about it? And I'm disappointed in Trump, man.

He didn't go to Texas and Steph Curry some paper towel rolls like that like come on bro what happened? I used to stand for something. It's been so funny. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years you're asking we have Texas we this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time and do you feel like answering? I don't mind answering.

I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this, where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration, but you go ahead. Sure, sure. First to back up on that in February. So we're stupid. Yeah, we're the fucking idiots, guys. Just to let you know, we're wasting time. That is like in all seriousness, that is, I think what is enraging people right now is it's insulting our intelligence. Like obviously the intelligence community is trying to cover it up.

Obviously the Trump administration is trying to cover up. Something changed because they ran on this idea of exposing it all. All these guys had great ideas, Kakao Cash, Dan Bongino. He had clips, dog, he had bars. He was ready to tear it all down. He was ready to tear down the entire FBI office. Shut down the Hoover Building day one. Day one.

Then bitch still standing. Then he goes on Joe Rogan and he's like, listen, do you think if I had it, I wouldn't share it with you? I do. Yeah. I do. I do believe that 100%. Especially when you're staring at me like this, telling me that.

How cockeyed is he? Can we get a photo of him really quick? Once you protect pedophiles, you are the most cockeyed person in the entire world. I never called him cockeyed cash before this. He couldn't see all the other people raping the children. He could only see Epstein. He's just staring at the bridge of his nose.

I don't see anything over here. I watch all 3,000 hours of footage. You know, maybe I'm wrong on this, but okay, you keep talking about this F-scene, they keep talking about this F-scene list, I got the list on my desk, now they're saying nothing happened. So one or two things in my mind is impossible. One, you're covering it up.

Or two, nothing really happened and you exploited the r*** of thousands of children to get your man elected. So which one do you want here? That one to me sounds just as bad if not worse. Also guys, show dates. We just added a bunch of new cities. I'm gonna be in Kansas City August 1st and 2nd, Perrysburg, Ohio August 8th. Those I'm gonna be honest those tickets are selling out way faster than I thought they

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I'm excited for you guys to listen and comedy. I love you all. Thank you. What's up guys? Just suck his dick at the show. I'm so tired of this fucking. Sanford Connecticut, Levittown, Washington DC, Chandler, Arizona, San Diego, Burlington, Vermont, Montreal, Toronto, Berkeley, Detroit, a bunch of other dates getting at it. I can't wait to see you guys at the show. I'll be doing one hour stand-up comedy, that no more, no less, one perfect hour, 60 minutes. Or 50 minutes in a blowjob.

See you guys at the show. And if you want to see Mark in New York City, go to Cancel Comedy X on IG. Tickets in the bio, basically. Let's go through both scenarios. Yeah. Okay. Let's go for the first one of covering it up. Yeah. So what does covering it up mean either?

there is an intelligence operation that's happening within the United States that is Aiding and abetting the exploitation of children. It's not great our taxpayer dollars go to this and some type of CIA black budget So we're now complicit in this thing, but it's for the greater good of America, right? so we kind of really I'm fine or So we're now complicit in this thing, but it's for the greater good of America. Right. So we kind of are like, I don't know, fine. Or Trump is implicated in some direct way because obviously he knew Jeffrey Epstein from back in the day, or both of those things.

So let's talk about these two scenarios. So if this is an intelligence operation, like I remember when people are blaming it on Israel, it would be better if it was another country. Like wouldn't you rather your own country did not be the one that was plotting planning and exploiting these little girls like this? You would hope it was another country.

But let's say, for example, it is an American intelligence. Maybe it's America and Israel, that's kind of what it feels like. I mean, there's like an insane amount of ties to Israel in this. But let's say it is an intelligence operation, like you just said, that our taxpayer dollars are going towards the sex and abuse of children.

Do they have this conversation with cash, Bongino, Trump, and the administration and basically go, what do you want to do, guys? Do you want to tell the entire country that the CIA and potentially the FBI, that our organizations were doing this and that we're in on this and this is how ugly we are? What will that mean for the rest of the world? How will the rest of the world view us? What are we capable of?

We're supposed to be the good guys. We're supposed to be heroes. What is the collateral damage of sharing this with the world? Do you think they share that information with Trump? I'm just asking you guys, I just want to explore that one for a second. I mean, you'd imagine that in order to keep the files from coming out, it's got to go all the way to the top, is my assumption. Unless there's some type of hidden degree where it's like, hey, we're going to protect

him from information so that he doesn't sound crazy, and he can just kind of run with whatever the mainstream narrative is. But the fact that his tune is even switched up leads me to believe that he has something. He knows something. So the reason he knows it is because he's like we're going to showcase, we're going to talk about this guy. They ran on it. They ran on cleaning out the swamp.

They ran on all these. They brought all the influencers, gave them all binders with all the shit that was all redacted. Do you remember this? Yeah. Yeah. They tried to promote this. They were building this excitement up for us to just get, I don't know, what is it, what is the term,

like the wind taking out of our sails? Yeah. Whatever. So the fact that his tune has changed to, from, hey, let's have a social media moment with the binders to, you guys are still talking about this guy? Yeah, we're talking about it because of you.

Yeah. You're the one that keeps the conversation going when you hand out the binders about it because of you. Yeah. You're the one that keeps the conversation going when you hand out the binders to the social media influencers. Yep. You're the one that keeps the conversation going when your- FBI director goes on podcasts and says nothing happened, he killed himself.

Yep. Okay, so it has to go to him. Especially for him to go, why are you guys still talking about this? Because you wanted us to talk about it. Yeah. You promoted it. Yeah.

There is a possibility that it's not directly CIA or FBI. Sometimes this happens with military ops where former agency guys will go off and create a shell company that operates in the gray area of the law. And they'll do operations. And typically it's surveillance and shit like that. And the CIA will contract them. And so they operate as of as a private company that can't be FOIAed, they can't have all their files

taken out, and the CIA still gets all the information. But either way, it's still CIA. Sure. But it just gives a separation for them. Sure, sure, sure. But Epstein was doing this for over 25 years, like they know. Right, he's given sweet heart deals, of course.

Alex Acosta Said on record we have this on record Alex Acosta was I think at the time that what district attorney in Palm Beach Yeah, Miami Palm Beach. Yeah, and then later was about to be Secretary of Labor. Yes, and then had to step down because of the connections I think he was he was Secretary of Labor and then at the step down Yeah, but he said he was the guy who gave the sweetheart deal to Epstein. He said, I did it because I was told he was intelligence. I was told to back off.

Because he was intelligence. That is said, you cannot wipe that clean from the record. That has been said by a, I't want to say trusted source but a source that is reliable and knows the weight of their words yeah right I think that was in the hearings to become Trump's labor secretary oh I thought that that was okay but going I think while they're interviewing him they're like by the way what was up with the sweetheart deal that was up with Epstein thing because they're looking at his whole career and okay I think you look yeah I think he

also said that. At the time. Yeah, at the time when he gave him the sweetheart deal. Because people were upset about that. Right. And so yeah, from my understanding, while he's in the briefing with the Trump cabinet team, he basically was like, yeah, I was told to stand down.

Yeah. From someone above me. I think it was like the exact quote. So to me, I think that's where we can at least, we can have some confidence that he does have connections to the intelligence community. Yes. Right?

So bare minimum there's connections, maximum this is this like massive blackmail ring. It's not only black rail blackmail. They've inserted themselves in governments, they've served as a royal family, they've served themselves in like American intelligentsia, the highest levels of universities, like this is everywhere. Right? It's not just as much as like, you're a president, let me go fuck you. Right, right, right.

You know, let me get you to fuck a girl. It's everybody. It's like inserting yourself in every piece of like influence in American culture. Yeah. And the world around. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so Trump either is told that if we release the details on this, it will destroy confidence

in America at home and abroad. Yeah. Because what country runs a child fucking blackmail ring on its own people? Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough look. And that says a lot because most military budgets go towards pretty awful things. fucking blackmail ring on its own people. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough look. And that says a lot, because most military bandits go towards pretty awful things.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, yeah, we're cool killing kids over there. Fucking them here. Yeah, dude, just do the Iraqis. Don't do us. Yeah.

Yeah, what would the collateral damage of that be? How would we react to that? What if we found out our alphabet agencies were doing that? Yeah, it wouldn't be ideal. The thing I don't get is that what new information happened because Trump's first four years, this is when he got locked up. This is when he would have been told already that, hey, this is his intelligence, this can compromise us, don't release it. So then why would you run on this?

That's true. That's a good point. Yeah. I think that, okay, so let's go through that difference here. There's a version where it's like, because I've said this even before the pod where it's the Democrats are in the Biden administration had access to this, right? And if Trump was in it, this is like a piece of logic, if Trump was in it or connected, they would piece of logic, if Trump was in it or connected, they would have used it against him. Like they used everything against him.

They went after him for money. They went after him for, I mean, like the complete power of the justice system and any other system they had at their disposal, they used against Trump. Unless your guys are also implicated. I didn't consider that. I thought that Trump was clean from it because he had rallied against it so hard, he'd ran on it. All the people that he's hiring are people that are going after it and essentially promoting

themselves on it. But there is a version where it's like, what is it? It's like a mutual short destruction. So it is nukes on everybody. So therefore they're like, we could go after Trump with this, but by exposing Trump as part of this thing, it might expose all the other people or confirm that it is an actual blackmail ring.

And once it's confirmed that it is an actual blackmail ring, we got to see how far this goes. And it might not even implicate like Democrat politicians. Like it likely does, but it doesn't necessarily need to because by our guys, you could just mean the U.S. government. Yes. The intelligence community is involved in it. Okay. I think it's either U.S. government or rich donors. So there is a version of this where he is involved, right? That's not completely clean just yet. He is involved. To what extent, we do not know.

But it's not like the most absurd thing, right? Like the guy was partying with Epstein. I think, yeah. Right? His name was in the black book. I think Trump's fucked a hooker or two in his life. That wouldn't be like the most shocking thing to ever hear, right?

Now, is he asking for ID every single time? I don't know. And that's probably the name of the hear, right? Now is he asking for ID every single time? I don't know, and that's probably the name of the game, right, it's like you get the girls that are 16 or whatever to go and then the guys aren't asking questions and fuck them and now you got it all on video. Also just one note on the Acosta thing, so it says when questions resurfaced in 2019 about why Epstein received such a light sentence,

Acosta allegedly told Trump's transition team the following, I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone. So that was the exact quote. So it was never like in some type of, you know, like court of law where he can't perjure himself. Who told you that? Chagy B. T. No, that's what I want to know.

Alex Acosta goes, I was told that he's intelligence. Who? No, he's never confirmed this or denied it in a public state. Do we know who said he said that or did Trump's team say that? No, no, no. I mean, again, this was in 2008 that this happened. Okay. Okay, so then let's go through the other scenarios.

So Trump is compromised. So Trump's compromised. Let's go through, there's another scenario. Let's assume Trump isn't compromised. But the intelligence communities come to him and they basically say, this is us, this is what we do. There are a lot of people here that are going to go down if you out this. And the reality is you're not going to out this.

And I would like to take this a little further. There's a version where the intelligence community comes in, they go, you don't really run the country. You get to make a lot of decisions and that's fine, but you look the other way at the things we do and we look the other way at the things you do. And then once the things you do cross paths with things that we do, we remind you that you don't really run the country.

And maybe that's what, and I'm not trying to give Putin credit here, but remember when Putin said that thing about like, you know, every American president, what is it? Every American president has these great ideas, and then once he gets elected, the real men that run the country, the men in suits walk in and tell him what the deal is.

Oh, I was not even thinking about that. I was thinking about how Putin kind of told the oligarchs whenever he took over, like, this is my shit. Oh, yeah. And I was thinking Trump could have done that. So, and that wouldn't be that shocking to me because the idea that like we have a new person running the country every four years or eight years and they plot the course of America for the next 300,

it's kind of absurd, right? Like there has to be some version of permanent government. Obviously it's not established and they're not like speaking about, they're not shining a light on it, but like there must be some version of this permanent government that maintains the course and does fucked up shit to maintain the course, just like every other country

that's run as a dictatorship does fucked up shit to maintain the course. So it wouldn't be shocking to me that that happened. Maybe he's involved, maybe he's not involved, but he could have had a conversation. They could have come up to him and be like, you know we missed on purpose, right? Like they could have sat him down in a to him and be like you know we missed on purpose right? Like they could have sat him down in a room and be like you know we missed on purpose

right? He goes what? He goes the guy who had the perfect shot on you from a hundred meters away or whatever like we missed on purpose. You didn't look at a fucking sign. Looking at the sign got you closer. But we missed on purpose. And we won't the next time unless you tell people to look the other way about this absentee shit.

To me, I would not be surprised at all if the CIA and the FBI actually are running the country and we get to bicker about little shit. They go, oh, let them fight about abortion. Let them fight about hate speech. Let them fight about this. But the real decisions, like if we're going to send more fucking aid to Ukraine, if we're going to send more aid to Israel Those decisions are already made because we continue to make them

Despite Americans not wanting them this same fucking decision gets made right over and over again Yeah, and this is my theory with like our politicians individually corrupt like perhaps But I wonder if just the throne is like like the, the systems in place are just like inherently kind of corrupt. And so you can have people like cash who's probably like working good faith while he's campaigning and like on the buildup and like all this time as a was a prosecutor for the state, like he's like doing good work and then gets into role gets read in on a brief and goes, all right, nevermind.

You know what I mean? Like I like to me, that seems like the most logical thing. I believe that about Trump. I believe when Trump, everything he campaigned on, I believe he wanted to do. And now he's doing the exact opposite thing of every single fucking thing. I don't know what he's done. Yeah exactly to your point. If you tell me, it's easier for me to believe you wanted to do all these things if any of them were happening in the way that you said they were. To that point, there'll be people that'll DM me, be like, you see what your boy is doing?

You voted for this. I'm like, I voted for none of this. He's doing the exact opposite of everything I voted for. I want him to stop the wars. He's funding them. I want him to shrink spending, reduce the budget. He's increasing it. It's like everything that he said he's going to do except sending immigrants back.

And now he's even flip-flopped on that, which I kind of like. But he's like, oh, well, we kind of need the people working in restaurants and we need our farmers. It's like everything that he said that he was going to do that he can't put really hard on. Well, he said to us, which was important and I thought it was good, he pressed him on it, you got to start with the criminals in terms of deporting. I don't think he's, I don't even know if the criminals are getting sent back.

I know there's a lot of people with people with green cards getting sent back. There's there's people who aren't criminals getting sent back. I don't know if you're sending back the criminals first. You definitely don't know first. I don't know if you're sending them back at all. So nothing has happened. And you were more optimistic than I was because I judge him by his first four. And it was Mr. Dream the Shlamp, Mr. Build the Wall, Mr. like he didn't do a lot of the stuff he promised

in the first four so why would anything- I already expect politicians to not do most of the shit they say. And now, and I don't want to be like too cynical, but like now I'm getting to the point where it's like, can they do anything? I think the reason why, and I don't know if this is necessarily intelligent, but I think the reason why Mamdani is exciting to people is the same reason why Trump was exciting to people. When you are so fed up with the status quo, when you feel like the status quo will do nothing and change nothing, you have way more of a longer leash for the outsider's ideas than you do

the status quo's ideas. Whatever Cuomo says, I don't even know if I believe it because he's status quo. So I'm like, it's just going to be the same old fucking bullshit. Mamdani comes in with these wild ideas that he cannot do. Like, most of them he literally just physically cannot do them. But people are so, and I'm putting this under quotes, desperate for something else. They're like, maybe he'll pull it off. And I think that was the idea with Trump. It was like, maybe he will stop these wars. No. Maybe we will see what's up with this absentee shit. No.

And I'll take this a step further with what we talked about. We talked about on Patreon or with Mumdani. I like that he might even endeavor to do these things. Yeah. I don't, that was the term we kept using. I don't even see Trump endeavoring to do any of the things that he said he was going to do. Seems like he's just as much the big problem with Kamala. I didn't vote for Trump, but I didn't look at Kamala like she was exciting because it was the same exact thing.

Trump is Kamala. I don't know if this country is any different depending on who gets elected. I think that he did try. That is, and again, I look at this through like, what is it, rose colored glasses, but like think that he did try. And again, I might look at this through rose colored glasses, but I think he did try. I think with the wars, he literally did try. I think earnestly, he's talking to Putin thinking he can make it happen. But I also think his hubris got the best of him. I think he's going, yeah, I'm just going to go over there and tell him that we're going to do no more wars. And then he realized, oh shit, Putin really

wants to reunite the Soviet Union. That's the thing, Trump is a business person, a business negotiator, and I don't know if he anticipated the ideologues. I don't think Trump is a pure ideologue. I don't think he's like, we need to make a Christian nation because that is what matters. I think he's just a business guy. And then he's dealing with someone like Putin that is sensibly a pure ideologue, or like Ayatollah that is ideological in all of their politics.

Yeah. And then when he gets into that position he's like well what leverage do I have these people to die for their country. They're willing to like, they're willing to do anything to further their agenda. Like there's no reason that can be had because it's purely ideological not fiscal. He can't meet them at an economic breaking point. When you're a businessman you can find something the other team wants, right? He can with Bibi. Say again? Yeah.

He can. He can absolutely do that with Bibi. I don't know if that's true. Because again, if he's sort of in the right wing of the Israeli government that's purely ideological, it's like we want to create a greater Judea. You have to look into the Likud party and see what they want, and then you'll understand what Mark is saying. Because what they want is purely ideological.

And the only thing that will satisfy them is executing that ideology. And when you're locked to that ideology, there's really no swaying. When you bring divine intervention into things, there's no negotiating with God. We need Al-Aqsa. I understand it's maybe not convincing Bibi to change his course

But if you rely on us for defense we can stop our support bombs rely on us for resources We can stop our support easy and be like yo you guys better make a deal or I'm cutting off the dollars So so here's the question. Here's the question. She really wanted to here's the question. Here's the question. If you really wanted to. Here's the question. That's what we all believed. Right? All of us believe that. We're like, why America does not support this shit that's going on here. None of us do. We're seeing the death and we're seeing the destruction. We're like, what the fuck has happened? Why do we keep supporting this? Like, what is going on? It seems to feel, at least at this point, that through APAC

or maybe through other means, there's incredible influence on our politicians. I mean, Ted Cruz is just tap dancing for Israel left and right. I think on July 4th he had some tweet about the Ntabi mission where they got like the — It was the biggest clock in the history of all of them. Yeah, y'all voted for him. I hate her.

Only in Texas could he be a politician. Only in Texas could some Canadian guy end up being one of your senators. Take that shit on the chin. Talk to your people. I tried dog. You got some borderline bitch running your fucking state. I tried. I hate this motherfucker. I'm with you dog.

I'm in New York. We voted for what was the guy? Santos or whatever. George Santos. That's not New York City. That's all now. But at least he lied. you know what I mean? At least Santos is like, yo, I'm in the military. What the fuck are you saying? Texas got to eat Ted Cruz. Y'all keep voting for this motherfucker. It's embarrassing.

Ted Cruz told the truth and still got elected. It's embarrassing. Seeing him wear cowboy boots like it's a fucking costume. Like, get the fuck out of here. You're like some comic who just moved to Austin and throws on cowboy boots. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, the next thing he will be is have aluminum foil on his hat. No, but like it seems like there is this and look, you know, they should be doing that shit. Every country should be trying to do it. Every country should find a way to make America do the shit that they want.

Like that should be the objective of Great Britain. It should be objective of all these countries. But once the American people become aware of it, you can't just say it's antisemitism for pointing it out. There needs to be a discussion, right? I think we had this conversation, I don't know if it was on the last pod or maybe it was on Patreon, but like, if you call everything antisemitism, people get quiet, because they don't wanna be called an antisemite,

they have tons of friends that are probably Jewish, they're like, I don't want them to think that I don't like them. They might want entertainment. They might want a career. Right? So they get silence. And then the only people having the conversation are the lunatics on the extremes who are actual anti-Semites, right?

And they control the discourse. And now Nick Fuentes is controlling the discourse. Right? And it's like, maybe if we had this discussion right here about like the influence on American politics from a foreign nation, if we had it just with normal people that don't have any hate in their system, but they want something different for America, maybe if we had that conversation without the fear of being called an anti-Semite, we wouldn't be in a much less hateful place right now.

Yeah. And this is not the best comparison, but I think the early days of MAGA, like anybody who was MAGA or voting for Trump, if they spoke out that they were for Trump, you recall a racist, so they were all quiet and the only people we heard from were the extreme MAGA ones and now to everyone else it's like, oh shit, they are fucking racist and extreme and the one in the middle it's like boom. So I think it's a... You have to let the normal people have the...

Like when a normal parent goes, why did my eight year old come back from school today and say that they're queer? Like what is, what's going on? What are you teaching my six year old in school? Like what the fuck? And then they go and ask the school and then they get called a bigot. You freak out and you stop saying anything.

And then the only people who are having the conversation about what's happening at school are these lunatics going, they wanna chop off all our our kids dicks in school. You have to let people ask questions. Yeah, that's this younger generation. You got David kissing Miles for no reason. He's confused, man. Let people ask questions.

Let's bring this back to Trump. Let's say, okay, he finds out APEC is kind of running things with all of these politicians. How are they running things? Ostensibly giving them money. You're Trump. You don't need their money. Your whole platform for eight years has drained the swamp. So you can't go against Bibi? Like I just don't let him off the hook for this.

So what do they got on Trump? That's a question. Or- Do they have the obscene files? Or has he, or maybe even more reasonably, he's just kind of run selfishly this whole time and he never really cared about our well-being. I don't know that he did, because none of the actions have shown me differently. His words did.

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Fair, maybe I'm being too extreme, but most of it has not. I think that there are certain things that he said he wants to do and it seems to happen. Like immigration, illegal immigration has pretty much stopped. Like illegal border crossing has pretty much stopped. And that is a massive thing that he ran on. My fear of saying none of it happens, it basically stops anybody from listening to the other very good points that you have. And I think you have like really good nuance points about this that we should be holding

him to the fire. No, that's fair. Thanks for giving me grace. That's what us Christians do? You fucking bigot. But no, it's like, you know, the immigration absolutely, he said he wants to do the tariffs, who knows what happens with the tariffs, but like these are the things that he said he's doing in negotiating these different deals in the other country. There are clearly things he's trying to do, but I think that there are other things that

like are above his level of power. It feels at least right now, and I could be completely wrong, he just doesn't have the power to do certain things. He doesn't have the power to tell Israel what the fuck that they can do in Gaza. He just doesn't have the power to do it. It seems like they just don't have it. It seems like a lot of these politicians just don't have the power.

You're supposed to be in a position of power, but your balls are tied. And the way he goes about stuff, it's like fast and loose. He's a great businessman, so of course, he knows what he's doing. But sometimes he's just like, he talks. He talks a good game, and then he's like,

I'll figure it out after. And I think with the Epstein stuff, he's like, yo, we're going to give him stuff. We'll redact a bunch of shit. Don't worry about it. And then when they did that, they ended up giving them redacted files of less information than what we already had.

There was more information out, they redacted it. There was more public information available. They redacted pieces of the publicly available information and then handed it out? It's like missteps, just like with this video. He thought like, oh shit, let's give them something. It's like, you know, by giving us this, you're making it seem even worse. And you're installing our intelligence. There's a great, there's a...

What's it called? It's like, once you lie, you have to tell more lies to protect the lie. And every lie erodes the trust that we have in you. And that's what it feels like is happening. There is one lie, which is Epstein did not have this global blackmail ring of the elites of the intelligentsia of the royal family who are the big businessmen like he just had a blackmail ring on all these very influential people and by saying

that that didn't happen you have to tell a lot of other little lies to make that lie make sense and every one of them just pulls a little piece of thread away from the fabric. And we're starting to see right through right now, and it's just embarrassing. But this is good. We should know how our country operates. We should know. Yeah. You think you do them like, do you really want to?

No, no, we don't want to. But if we are invested in making some sort of positive change. Yeah, progress. You know, we want some sort of progress. Like, I'll be honest with you. Like, I think one of the things that was really refreshing about Mamdani is him in that press conference saying like,

I'm not going Israel, I'm gonna stay here and I'm gonna do what is best for the people in New York City. Like, I think that was an important message, right? People keep on calling him antisemitic, whatever like that. And I don't know what his feeling on Jews is, but right now where it feels like so many politicians are bought, him putting a massive spotlight on the fact that he's not and he wants you to know that, I think that that was very refreshing for a lot of people.

It's not Trump-esque. This is a weird comparison, but it just shows that he's a no-sign. You ready? You ready? It's kind of Trump-esque. Like, this is a weird comparison, but it just shows that he's an outsider. No, you ready? You said earlier. You ready? You ready? It's America first. The only party right now that to me seems America first

is the Democrat Socialist Party. Bernie is America first. Mamdani and all his ideas that he will not be able to execute, and I frankly think many of them are not good ideas, even if they do execute, I frankly disagree with him. But he is no doubt New York first. Who knows if he can actually do these things for New York, but the policies seem to want to help people here. That's what I care about. And if MAGA wants to take this America first thing back, they got to start looking out for American It doesn't seem like they're doing lying to Americans is not America first. I

Mean, I guess it's philosophy right like is American isolationism better for America in the long run No, this is no, what is it? What is it? I don't think we I don't think we have to be sorry to cut you I don't think we should be isolated. That's not what I'm saying. I don't want to be isolated. What is the appearance of we should be isolated. That's not what I'm saying. I don't want to be isolated. What is the appearance of constantly backing Israel at every turn, making some, making such, bringing Bibi on and calling them the greatest human on earth? What is the appearance? Do you appear America first or do you appear bought by another country with a much smaller population? Look at the big beautiful bill. It's like increased military spending. Now you're cutting Medicaid fucking snap. You're giving tax cuts to the rich.

It's like. And whether you. As far. And you can agree with some. You can agree or disagree with Medicaid, snap, whatever. No, let me just say this. To add to your point, those people are Americans. And if you're saying like, hey, we need to go fight this war, I'm agreeing with you.

If you're saying we need to go fight this war for people overseas while you're cutting Medicaid and SNAP for Americans, to both of your points, you don't appear America first. Just not philosophically. How many times are we gonna try this trickle down economic shit? Like it doesn't work.

They're not even using the term anymore. I know. They're not even pretending. But that's what it is. Like it doesn't work. We've tried it so many times, it doesn't work. But they're not even pretending the term. I know. They're not even pretending. But that's what it is. Like it doesn't work. We've tried it so many times. It doesn't work.

They're not even pretending it's a philosophy. They're just saying, no, no, no, we're giving tax cuts to the rich and we're cutting this. They're not even saying it's going to benefit you in the long run. I think that has to be bad and not even promise it nothing. I think there has to be some sort of, it's too black and white, right? It's like either rich people get to keep their money or they get taxed crazy and then that money just essentially is like given to the poor. And I think that there should be this middle ground where it's like give poor people opportunity.

Opportunity is what Americans want. They don't want just cash. Cash is fun. You go buy some shit, whatever. You want the opportunity for upward mobility. So what are the programs that we can set up and there will be government run and that won't work Or maybe we can find a way to privatize those programs, but still give people opportunity Apple yes upward mobility. That's all people really want all these people that voted for mom Donnie

They're all making 90 100 thousand dollars a year like they make money. Okay. It's not the poor people. They're voting for my Donnie It's the white kids who kind of grew up with money. They went to college, they did all the right things. And now they don't see any version where they will have upper mobility. They're going to be renting until they're 50 years old. Like they just don't see it. And they're like, have I been sold? What is that? A Martin Luther King thing. Like I feel like I've been sold a false bill of goods. I'm entering my people. It's a lot of pressure.

I'm bringing my people into a burning house, remember? Yeah, sounds familiar, but. Yeah. Fuck. You fraud. Fucking Puerto Rican. This guy used to say his speech every fucking year and you forgot. I can remember it. Puerto R year and you forgot. I remember it

Yeah, I just Yeah, it's a doesn't feel good man doesn't feel bad check a check which has come back marked insufficient funds Yeah, he was off I've come with you don't remember the bad check, the check which was come by Mark, insufficient funds, you don't remember that? King stated that America had given black people a bad check, a check that has come back marked insufficient funds. That is what a college education is right now when you think about it. He was referring to what was given to black people, but in terms of what has been given

to this, what are the Gen Z, is that it? Or even, I guess you could say millennials too. It's like, you told us when we went to college, there would be all this opportunity, we could use that education to get upward mobility in our life, to change our class, right? To go from middle class to upper middle class to wealthy. And the reality is, it's like,

none of us used our college degrees to do that. Like, I had a college degree in psychology, right? I tell dick jokes. I literally tell jokes about my sperm not swimming. There's no way college can prepare you for that. And you know, granted, obviously there are people who are gonna be doctors, there are gonna be people that are gonna be engineers,

they're gonna make a lot of money, but even that, it feels like now with AIs, might be few and far between. Yeah. You know? Dude, Kanye's album did resonate his first album, College Dropout, because there was that feeling of like, oh yeah, you go to college and it don't really get you much. Like aside from just making genius music, that was a thing. We were looking at that message like, oh yeah, that guy's right.

I remember being in college being like, yeah, I don't know if I don't become a doctor, what am I going to do with this? Imagine you went to college, you're working at Trader Joe's. Imagine you got $200,000 worth of debt, you're working at Trader Joe's with a dude who graduated from high school. That dude who graduated from high school has way more upper mobility than you. The homeless guy asking you for money has less debt. No, he doesn't. Yo, you are more broke than the dudes on the street. You're negative. Yeah.

And that starts to weigh on people. And then when you hear Mom Donnie talk and when you hear Bernie talk and I'm sure when you hear AOC talk it really resonates with you. And college debt forgiveness seems like, yo, you should forgive because you lied to me about what this degree would mean. I also think we got to hold the universities a little bit accountable. I think the government actually did something good and benevolent. I think they said we want our populace to be educated and we're gonna back these loans no matter what. They didn't put a limit and then these fucking grimy colleges were like, oh they're gonna these loans no matter what. They didn't put a limit. And then these fucking grimy colleges were like,

oh, they're gonna back it no matter what? Yeah. That's who wishes going on. Honeyed up. Yeah. That's some sinister shit. We should see who is in control of these educational institutions

and who made the decision to ramp up those fucking prices because they knew that there was an endless bank account that was gonna pay for it. And saddled these kids with debt. Now, ultimately we're responsible for taking on that debt. We have agency, but there are some people that are pretty nefarious at these institutions. Just people at every institution. Once that becomes the norm. It's like a systemic issue right? It's like it's just like we exist in a consumer's culture. But the rate yeah the rate of inflation I remember

I think my college was expensive when I graduated was 25k a year expensive and then I went back four or five years later was 45k a year. Like that rate of inflation is crazy. That's crazy. What were you saying, systemic issue though? It's just like, this is like American society at large since the 80s. Like we just consume. Like that is just like the nature of life. It's like we are consumption machines. We want to buy things. We're designed to buy things. Like we're like prompted with things that are like more distilled, like more more tasty, more appetizing that just drive us to buy

more and more and more consistently. Our phones break, we buy more. It's just built that way. And then we don't really produce as much. Post-World War II, it's like, we're making shit, you have jobs, da-da-da. But now it's like, okay, low prices. Just cater to the consumer.

And it just ripples through everything, whether it's healthcare, where prices go crazy and then insurance backs it, whether it's college loans, like whether it's the housing crisis, like it's just all like, yeah, just continue to consume because that is ultimately what grows our GDP the most. It grows our GDP, but it doesn't allow that upward mobility that we want. And what it does is really extend this like age of adolescence. Like the 40-year-old in New York, as I sit here with pants that barely come below my

knees, I've been fortunate enough to like some money and get married and start a family. But the 40-year-old in New York has the flat screen, has the nice phone, has the cool accoutrements in their apartment, but still rents his apartment. It might not be married, doesn't have a family. And I think that's where things start to weigh on them. They go, when will I have a family? When will I make enough? If I'm kind of living paycheck to paycheck,

I get to take a little vacation. I get to go to Montauk with my friends for a week, and it's fun, but I don't really have a plan for a future. I don't really have a plan for adulthood. I forget which economist said this. This is someone from back in college. But he basically said, consumerist culture is the perfect form of slavery

Because it's slavery with no rebellion. Mm-hmm. Cuz you have all your shit, you know, I mean prices are low I can't be a press mark I got a Nintendo switch exactly and like life is good and like our standard of living so much higher than the rest of The world but you can't actually own anything and then the wealth gap increases Yeah, and so it's like yeah, I have no reason to rebel right like we have we have all the shit we need, we have food, da da da, even though it's kind of bad for you. And we have healthcare, even though it's expensive. And we have education, even though you can't afford it. The consumerist thing feels dirtier when it's healthcare or education or like, you convincing me I need an iPhone, I buy an iPhone, that's on me. You convince me my

life will be better. Education feels like you convince me I cannot have a life. With I guess it's all marketing, but it feels grimier with education and healthcare. Education is a fundamental need for me as a human being. For democracy to exist, and healthcare is inherently inelastic. And the rate of inflation being what it is, it feels dirtier than iPhone prices. You know what we should have done with education, and maybe we should just do it right now? Charge different amounts for different degrees. If you're getting a poetry degree,

the cost of the education for a poetry major is far less than the education for a bio major. They should give you money. You should be paid to do that. You go for the poetry degree, they're like, here's 10 grand. Yeah, like you should just have a cheaper way to get that education because one,

then you're not gonna be saddled with debt. If you wanna study poetry and then go be a poet, at least you don't have $200,000 worth of debt. Maybe you got 40 grand worth of debt at the end and you could sustain that while you work in a cafe, you're a barista and you're working on your art and hopefully you make that into something. But if you spend $200,000 on an engineering education, you probably will get a job that

will allow you to one day pay that off. You will not get that as a poetry course But again, that is just like inherently antithetical to the system. Here's the other Make more money. You know what I mean? Like if we have a hundred kids that are all willing to spend 50k You know a year. Yeah, like why would we reduce half of them? I looked into this a little bit that makes perfect sense But apparently all these like liberal arts That makes perfect sense. But apparently, all these liberal arts degrees are subsidizing the science degrees. So in other words, it costs far more to educate, like you did bio in school, it costs far more

to educate you than somebody who's a history major. So those history majors are essentially paying to keep your level of education down, which I guess is beneficial to those science majors. And maybe if it was too expensive for science majors, maybe a lot of them wouldn't do it. And we do want more science and engineering majors. But at the same time, don't make these people that don't have interest in that be saddled with this debt that will be so crippling that they'll just be like, of course. Here's where AI is changing everything.

And we had an awesome conversation with Fareed just to tease it a little bit. But he brought this up. Computer science majors, Fareed Zakaria from CNN, computer science majors out of college have a higher unemployment rate than art history majors right now. Right, right. And obviously, advancement of technology

will change these things. But like, if you went back like 10 years or something like that. Yeah, agreed. You'd see this. If we can do this 20, 30 years ago, yes, that's what it should be. Like you had a pathway, like if you wanted.

You're a smart guy, you had a pathway to becoming a doctor if you wanted. And you chose not to do that, that's your choice, but there was a pathway for you. And- There's a pathway to being rich. Yeah. And if you're a poetry major,

not really a pathway to being rich. And that's okay, you should be allowed to study that. And do what you love. And do what you love, but- You shouldn't be saddled with the same debt as someone who goes on to be a doctor. And you shouldn't have to pay for someone's education because you don't want to be a scientist.

No, that's valid. It's very valid. I don't know. I think that we have to completely look at the college education system differently. Maybe not advanced education. Maybe when you're getting like a business degree, which is like kind of bullshit if you ask me.

Like my wife got her MBA and like, I is like kind of bullshit if you ask me. My wife got her MBA and like, I think a lot of it was networking. Yeah. Like it's not even like things that she was, I don't wanna say she didn't learn anything there. Of course she like learned things, but like the most valuable things was rubbing shoulders

with these kids who were like a Senator's kid or a hedge fund manager's kid, like building up your Rolodex. Yeah. So yeah, I think we got to change the way that at least Americans look at advanced education. I think one potential fix could be the same way we do all education before college, is just have public and private. So all public universities should just be free.

So everyone has access to college and doesn't have to come out with gripling debt. And then, hey, if you wanna go to one of the better schools, you gotta pay for it. And so that way it's like, everyone has the opportunity to be educated, to get the degree, to get in the workforce. But you know, some people with more means

are able to go to different schools. And I think they should do the same thing with health care. All health care should be free. But hey, that's you have the free doctors. This is what keeps you alive. Yeah, exactly. The bare minimum to keep you alive is this. And if you want to pay for private insurance,

just so you can see some of the better doctors, hey, if you have the means to do it, you should do it. Like, that should be across the board. Here's my question. How do you pay? Because it's more expensive to have a college than. Stop fighting wars for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, how do you pay, because it's more expensive to have a college. Stop fighting wars for everybody. Yeah. It's like, how do you do it right now with elementary school, with high school? Can you not blame Americans for being frustrated? Oh, fuck. When America

is spending billions of dollars to fight wars for other countries that have free health care and free college. It seems to me that those countries, that they do care about their sovereignty more than anything in the world, as they should, that they should first be sacrificing those programs to pay for their sovereignty before Americans are. Am I crazy to say that? Not at all. No, again, it's like just the idea, like, do you want to sort of come off of the geopolitical positions? Which again, I'm not like a forever wars guy. I don't think we should be like supporting all these conflicts.

I don't want to come off of per se, but I want a conversation which is like, hey, you are fighting for your survival. How much does that survival matter to you? Yeah, the most. It matters the most? Well, then you're going to have to take your free healthcare and your college education budget that you've allocated for your people, and you're going to have to put that into your safety and security.

I don't think that that is a crazy thing to ask other countries if we're going to send them billions of dollars worth of bombs. Even if it chips away one billion, it's a statement that our support is appreciated and not entitled. I wanna have great relationships with other countries, but I don't want it to have it at the sacrifice of our citizens.

Our citizens should be taken care of first, and then if there is spillover after that, we should exert that power. But if you're telling, not you're telling me, but if somebody's telling me like, we need to have this influence in the world, maybe we can't afford it. I would love us to have this influence in the world,

not at the sacrifice of our citizens. And not that I agree with either war, I'm against all war, but I feel like in the early stages of Ukraine, when they raise the age limit for their citizens to fight and I was like, all right, you know what, you're sacrificing, I feel a little bit somewhat okay. Raise the age or lower the age? Like they raise the age for people to fight.

On the top end, you can feed, whereas 40 you're out of work. I thought you meant like instead of 18, 21. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You mean like 50. The top, yeah. There should be no age. But that's the thing. But that's the thing, yeah.

Do you want to survive as a country or not? And it's like. Everybody gotta fight. Drive your rascal right over there. We had women playing baseball in America. Don't know what to do. We did everything we could to keep this country afloat. Oh, fucking Rosie O'Donnell.

Yeah. But yeah, that's, I was like, all right, you're at least doing everything you possibly could and now we're offering some Women get jobs. This is crazy factories. I know still paying for it Honestly, but I don't think that that's like death that never ends. I don't think that's an unfair statement, right? It's how important is your survival? How important is your sovereignty? How important is it? Yeah, okay It is the of the utmost importance? Nothing is more important than that?

Okay, well you're gonna have to sacrifice a little bit at home for that. Just like we had to. We turned our entire country into a military industrial complex during World War II. Ford stopped making Fords and they started making tanks. That's what we do when it's time to bang. That's where daylight savings came from.

We pushed the clocks forward an hour so there's an extra hour of sunlight so you didn't lose electricity. I think they kept it going for other reasons. But that's how it started. Just everybody, hey, time is different now. That's it. You're all an hour ahead. We need more electricity or save money.

That's a commitment to sovereignty. And while I do want to help our allies, I do think it is important to have good relationships with our allies. I do think that. We need to also understand that they value our support and it's not something that they just feel like they can call and ask for at any point in time while not sacrificing anything at home. You've got to pay for some shit, yo.

Yeah. Thousand percent. Yeah. I guess I'd be curious to know the internal negotiation where it's like, yo, we're going to help you out with this thing. We're going to buy your weapons. And a billion dollars to you is not that much. That's like a quarter of our GDP. I hear that about Ukraine.

You said that where it's like a lot of that money ends up coming back to America. 90% of it is going to the military industrial complex here. So they're like, why would we sacrifice our citizens' life that's already being crushed by a foreign government or by a foreign military when we're pumping all this money back into your economy and making you people rich? We're just asking for favorable deals on weapons, da da da da. Yeah, somebody gotta make the weapons.

Weapons are free. Right. So it's not like, are we charging them triple for the weapons? We're probably charging you the going rate for weapons. We're not charging you a vig on it. We're not charging you this crazy tariff. We're not doing like Iraq where we like blow something up

and build it up for 20 times the price, like a wrench is $500. That's what we're doing. We can look into it and see, but I doubt that that's what we're doing. That would be pretty egregious. That would be disgusting. Doug, the energy was so different when Zelensky sat down with Trump and JD Vance and they little-boyed him than when Bibi sat down. Same?

We're doing the same. We're helping you out. Why are you coming in here? Zelensky had a little attitude and JD Vance was like, I don't think you're in a position to talk like this. Facts. Which if you're America first, you

cannot like it. Blah, blah, blah. That's America. You're we're daddy. Didi. He sits down. Trump is like, this is the greatest human being on Earth. Why don't you ask him? He's toying with Trump, man.

And it's like, yeah, it's just it's kind of embarrassing to see. It's like this is somebody and Putin is fucking embarrassing to see. It's like, this is somebody, and Putin's fucking really good too. These guys, these war hawk psychopaths, they're really good at geopolitics. They're in the position for a reason. Exactly. They're in the position for a reason. They've maintained power for a reason, and they want to maintain that power. And Trump needs to know that going into these things. He could be played at every point, and he needs to be on his P's and Q's.

And that's how you maintain power. And it kind of feels like they can fluff Trump's ego enough. You know what I mean? Like Trump cares so much about the way he's perceived. Having power is more important than the way you're perceived to these guys. To Trump it feels like the way he's perceived is more important than the way you're perceived to these guys. To Trump, it feels like the way he's perceived is more important than the power. Yeah, yeah. You know, because people come and be like, oh, you guys did it.

You saved the day. You did all the things, even though he fucking outsmarted Trump and makes Trump support this thing that Trump doesn't want to support. What does Trump want? A Nobel Peace Prize? Is that power or is that perception? What is the first thing that Bibi says? I am nominating Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Just fluff, fluff, fluff. It's like... Yeah. I want to nominate Diddy, bro. Gotta nominate Diddy for the Nobel Peace Prize. Diddy and Epstein for just being wrongfully... You should get some kind of honor for being wrongfully imprisoned for everything he did.

Yeah, all these abusers, we really just got it wrong, huh? Yeah, dude. When we saw Diddy just rag dragged all Cassie in that hotel? Turns out it was her fault. Yeah I couldn't believe what a terrible person she is every time we try to believe women it backfires. I know I know We should learn better. So what happened? Did he get charged for that abuse? No Was that no because he didn't do anything wrong. That's right.

I think statute of limitations. Yes, statute of limitations. Yeah. Put up on those charges. So they paid off the guy at the hotel or whatever to get the video, and then somehow the video gets leaked later on. God. What a scumbag at that hotel.

In LA, I think you only have a year to file for domestic violence. You know what's crazy about that? That's crazy. Can I just tell you something crazy about that? I'm not saying there should be statute of limitations, but a year is wild. What's up? It's like, LA has the strictest, or California has the strictest divorce laws in the country. You don't even have to be married to a woman.

If you guys just live together for 10 years, there's like a common law arrangement where they're entitled to half. Yikes. Yet you could beat her and as long as she's unconscious for a year, she can't do anything about it. If you beat a woman until she's in a coma for 366 days, you're good. Wow. But if you're married to one for 10 years, unhappily, they get half your shit. Yeah. I mean, that's wild.

Living with one, not even married. Living with one. I don't think California is common law. I think Bobby Lee said that on our pod. It might not be common law, but there is this thing where- He would know. There is this thing where like after 10 years, you guys- Like a domestic partnership or something.

Yeah. That's wild. Yeah, that kind of makes a bad sense. Because if you beat a woman, and she's still kind of moving a little, you're like, ah, fuck. Now I'm going to have to make it on... Finishing moves. Yeah.

I could come off the turnbuckle. People's elbow. Like, what else are you going to do? You just got to keep her scared so she doesn't want to speak up. Yeah. Like what Diddy did. And also, like, abuse victims, like, inherently, like, they don't come forward immediately. You know what did he do? And also like the abuse victims inherently,

like they don't come forward immediately. You know what I mean? Yeah, because they're getting the shit kicked out of them. They self-internalize, like, oh no, it was actually my fault, he won't do it again, he's a good guy, like it's cycles of abuse that keep people from saying anything. And I think she was young as fuck when she met him, right?

Not like illegal young, but like 19, 18, like, you get somebody over there, you can hostage them up and pretty much believe in anything or being down for whatever. There was some text exchange where she's like, I'm starting to believe you're just paying my rent so that I do these sexual escapades. And it's like, yeah, dumbass.

Yeah, that was Jane the other one, yeah. Oh yeah, you idiot, of course. Why else do you think he's paying your rent? Have you guys watched a movie together? Have you ever hung out? No, he wants to watch guys jerk off on you. Like that's your job. Your job is to get jerked off on and then you get a house. Like there is a little bit of arrogance that comes with that. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he misled her to make her think like, oh, we're going to be together and a bunch of empty promises and

shit like that. You're talking about love bombing, right? Yeah. Like what we got to call that something else. What? Love genocide? All right guys, stay break for a second man. We got it. We have to we have to stop talking about the geopolitical controversies in the world for just one moment because obviously Wimbledon is happening. Obviously people are engaged. Obviously people are excited. You right here, you think Novak Djokovic is going to win it? I think this is his last shot to win it.

It's not his last shot. To win a Grand Slam. I think it's his last best shot. I think that Gajanic center, the number one player in the world is hurt. The number three player is out, Sasha Zverev. And I think Alcaraz is really good, but this is Novak's best surface. And this is his last. He's getting older. These young guys are so good that I just think they're better than.

Alcaraes won this the last two years in a row. Yeah, but this is that's what I'm saying. This is his last shot. After this, I don't think it happens for Novak. I think Sinner is out. I think that hurt a lot. Zverev losing hurts a lot. All the guys that can outgun him for sure are out except Alcares and Alcares still could well be. So you're putting your money on Joe Kovac?

I don't know if I put my money on Alcares. I might still put my money on Alcares but this is the last, this is his best shot to win before he retires I think. Sir, Alex Media, where would you put your money on? Alcares. 100? Alcaraz. 100% Alcaraz. Okay, so Alcaraz is going to take it. Stake is where you're going to go put your money down. Stake is the leader in global betting, US social casinos,

a bit of task force, political events, and use the promo code FLAGRANT for your welcome bonus. Now let's get back to the show. Maybe we're wilding right now, but like the love bombing, I just want the name to change like the of what it is Like don't call it a good thing. Love is good. Bomb is bad. No bomb is bad. But like it's not it What's that? Sometimes good sometimes But like if it's not love like that's that the reason it's manipulative is because it's not actual love.

Like these aren't real feelings you have for somebody you're like lying to them. Lie bombing, call it lie bombing. But like if you actually are in love with somebody, you know, like you meet somebody that's like, you just, there are plenty of people that meet somebody and like they just fall in love with them and they're like the most amazing and then they go and get married. Yeah, love bombing does sound nice. It does sound like I'm going to just rain down the fire of my enduring passion You know what I mean? That was beautiful

That's what love bombing does to me And then you find out it's bad Poetry education bro I paid 200 bucks for it Can't complain But it's like yeah you hear that and you're like that sounds pretty good And then you find out it's actually terrible. You're like, oh, fuck, gaslighting sounds bad.

Gaslighting sounds bad. Like, if you called it what it is, which is like just lying, I'm lying and manipulating you to get this thing that I want, then people would be like, oh, that's a really good phrase. Yeah. But I think girls call love bombing this thing. And it's just like, hold on, being nice to you? Like, the communications off being nice to you is wrong, the communications off, being nice to you is wrong?

Like, I got to be mean to a girl? But what about the gifts? What about the trips and stuff? Like, that's not lying. You're actually doing those things. We got to stop acting like they don't want that shit. No. Of course they want.

Yeah, so it's like, if you want it, you're getting what you want out of this. Yes, but these are the same activities that you do with your wife. Yes. Because you actually love her and want to be with her. I love them. That's what I'm saying. These are the same activities that you do with your wife. Yes, because you actually love her and want to be Stop putting the like the the pepper on my shit. No, you just love her

Yeah, the bomb part is when after they've gotten what they had they just dip like that's I think the bomb I think the term love bomb comes from the person receiving. They're being bomb. Yeah. Not the person. Bombs with love. Everybody wants to be bomb with love. I love my wife though. I want to be showered with love. Yeah, love bomb. It's a fake love is what I think.

The perception is that the love isn't real. But I don't think bomb makes love not real. But they feel it's real. When is bomb a good thing? When it's love. But they feel it's real. A bath bomb. I real. A bath bomb. I actually, and those suck.

We gotta call it that. A bath bomb is good. It's a great relaxing, amazing thing. It's a bath bomb. Lip balm. Lip balm is fire. Lip balm bath. Lip balm is no B-A-L-M.

Don't worry about all that. It looks good. We're not gonna get into this, man. Listen, lip balm is great. You want as much lip balm Don't worry about all that. It looks good. Lip balm is great. You want as much lip balm all over your lips. Your lips are dry. You need that much. A bug balm, you set it off, gets rid of all the termites and shit. Kills them.

We don't call it love bombing though. So I think we gotta get rid of love. Don't call it love. Lie. I'm they're lie bombing They're manipulating me. You can just say lying He's lying to me he don't really like me this much also can I have a session? Yes, you can Can you also disclose this has been disclosed? You know, I've invested money in this company. So we're disclosing right now Thank you for disclosed disclosed

I got up when you were talking about love bombing. Because you're right. I just didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it. All right, can I paint a picture? Yes, please. Bomb us with a picture. Has love bombing ever worked on a dude?

Yes. Oh no, you got some dick out of me. No, the cold's right. Oh my God, you love bombed me and you got some dick out of me. Every cold does this. You got some dude, he doesn't have a ton of's right. Oh my God, you love-bomb me and you got some dick out of me. Every cult does this. Yeah.

You got some dude, he doesn't have a ton of friends, all of a sudden, like, hey, we're your best friends, we love you, we'll do anything for you. No, no, we're talking sexually here. I don't want you to, don't take it to fucking platonic places. But the love-bombing is rarely sexual. Let's talk about, you know what, let's talk about- No, sexual relationships. Let's talk about the cult, because I think what you're not putting enough weight on is

the state that that human being is in. Is he susceptible to this love bomb or is she susceptible to this love bomb? I would say this is the same case with a relationship. Yeah, they would say they're preying on these people. So that person is prey. That person is going through something horrible in their life where they're susceptible. It's like hypnotism. Not everybody can be hypnotized.

Right. They had a trauma in their past. They had an abusive parent and now they seek that. They had a trauma in their past, they had an abusive parent, and now they seek that kind of same familiar love in their romantic relationships. Yeah, so that's about what they went through in their life. It's not about the actions of kindness and love. You should be kind and loving to somebody. That is a great thing that we should do. What does Christianity preach? Exactly. But what if you say, hey, let's go on a trip, let's go on my boat. Should Christianity stop loving? No, because they don't do the bad part.

Yeah. What do you mean they don't do the bad part? Why are you not the bad part. Yeah. What do you mean they don't do the bad part? Hold on. What do you mean they don't do the bad part? Because they're not like, oh, if you leave the church, like we're going to we're going to cut you off from your family. We're going to kill you. Come on. What? That's true. No, no, no. Hold on. Keep going on that. If you if you leave the Catholic Church, you're allowed to leave freely. Yeah. If you leave like a Presbyterian church, you just go to hell for the rest of the time.

Yeah, that's free. That seems pretty free. Because if you keep your relationship with Jesus, you know what I mean? Yeah. And then even then you have purgatory, then you can get into heaven after. I think that what we would also, this is not an indictment Christianity, but I think that there are definitely situations where leaving the church means leaving your community. And you are- Which people characterize as cults.

As cults. So you're saying that Christianity is not living up to its ideals in that circumstance. Right, yeah, I would consider that cultish. That's fair. If you're part of a hyper-religious sect and you leave and they're knocking on your door, like, come back or we're gonna fucking keep your kids, you can't talk to them. Then it's like a cult. Yeah, okay, that's fair. So with these girls, hypothetically, I don't know, a guy says, hey, let's go on a trip,

let's go on my boat. She's like, yeah, that sounds great, awesome. And then he starts being a piece of shit to her. He's like, you can't leave, you can't talk to give me your phone let me see your talk that's the bad part but and then she says no he goes fine the trips off we're not going anywhere that's the bad part then she says fine you can take it he goes why we why we vilifying the first part conditional conditions our wives love us we start fucking every bitch on the street.

That love goes away. Is it conditional love? Yeah. All love is conditional, except for your parents, if they're good parents. But we agree with some. I can't be critical of anything my wife does ever.

I just gotta tell her how it makes me feel. That seems conditional. That seems very conditional. Why are we acting like there's not conditions for human relationships? No, there are conditions. There are conditions, but we agree as a society that some conditions might broach too far.

How about this? This is in the Constitution. You go on a guy's boat, he's gonna use your throat. Just know that. I have a daughter. I will be telling my daughter that. That is a barn. You go on a guy's boat, he's gonna use your throat. And if he doesn't get to use your throat, you're not going on the boat again. Those are the rules for boats. That's the rules for planes. That's the rules for trips.

Pleasure of allegiance. Pleasure of allegiance to this boat. There are so many poetry majors in here. Yes, there are. We gotta stop infantilizing women. Only absinthe can do that. There's a certain circumstance where it's like, ladies, you have to be aware of what a guy wants.

And here's the reality, they are aware. Women are not stupid. Can I just say one thing? When a broke motherfucker tries to love bomb, you know what they say? Ew! There's no circumstance where a broke guy's love bombing women are like, I just got love bombed.

I got manipulated, He's homeless, but I got manipulated and I'm totally manipulated on this pussy. Very few. We hear a lot of, we hear a lot of the circumstances, which you got. You're right. Right. I'm speaking in totalities. I think that's unfair. It happens far less often than it's also the same broke guy. Love bombing is texting all the time. Oh, I miss you. Good morning. Oh, I love you. And then after da da da da, oh, I love you, da da da da da, and then after they're just done with her, just ghost.

Pussy smell. But I'm just saying, that's broke love bond. I call that pussy smell. And listen, we gotta chalk up at least a small percentage of it to pussy smell. Not every girl's hygienic. There's some percentage. There's some percentage.

Surely there's some percentage to pussy smell? Yes, there's no absolute. Oh, you love. Surely there's some percentage to pussy smell? Yes. There's no absolute. Oh, you love bomb me. No, you bomb me. You, there's something going on under the hood. You bug bomb me. There's a small percentage who's pussy smell.

I agree. Small percentage. We don't know what the percentage is. We don't know 100%. It could be pussy smell. It could be a lack of sexual chemistry, which is very important. That's very important. But even then, you shouldn't ghost though.

You should be like, yo, by the way, pussy smell. Facts! Facts! And then send her a love bath bomb. Do you want to know what love bombing is? Love bombing is not telling a girl her pussy smells. Oh my god. That is an act of love. That is an act of love. Put the hat back on.

I know right? I'm sorry. It's more funny when I say it but this one. I think in a lot of ways that's an act of love. When a girl doesn't say that your dick is short that's an act of love. Oh it's not really we don't have a real connection blah blah blah. It's hitting one side of the, I mean, you're hitting one wall. You're hitting one wall. That's love. That's love. My wife loves me. Ten years straight. Oh, God.

Okay. I don't know where to go. Listen, obviously I'm taking like a wild approach to this on the other side. We don't. I do be getting confused when people talk about love bombing. Shut up. No, can we talk about it? When people talk about love bombing, I get confused.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I get confused. I just don't exactly understand. Ted Cruz is love bombing Israel every single day. Yeah, he is. Every day he is love bombing. I think it'd be the opposite, actually. And Israel is hate bombing Palestine. For no fucking reason.

Well, they no fucking reason. Well, they got a reason. I think they got a reason. The question is, how much longer is this going to go on? OK, fair enough. I just think it's easier to feel like you got tricked out of something. Mm hmm. Like, like, I don't think any girl wants to go.

I don't think any girl wants to go, man, I gave that guy some pussy because he took me on a boat. Like, I don't think at the end of the day they want to feel like it's that transactional. So I think with a lot of girls, I think they'd rather go, he was so nice to me, he loved me, he was saying all these nice things, he texts and whatever, and then he just stopped doing that once we have sex. It's just like, I mean, if the first thing a guy does with you is takes you on a fucking boat or something like that, you should be very aware of his intentions with you.

Very aware. Like I would tell that to women right now. If the first thing a guy offers to do with you is to take you to the nicest restaurant out there, the nicest fucking boat or vacation or whatever, there's one thing he wants. There is one thing that he wants. I don't know, Shelty.

He is trying to put in a massive amount of guilt on you for him to have sex with you. Because of the implication. Because the implication is. Have you seen that always on the episode? No, tell me. Like dude, if you go on a boat, the implication. There's an implication.

There's an implication. We already know what the boat is about. We already know what the boat is about. I don't even have to repeat it. And you already know, it's emblazoned in your minds right now. We can know what the boat is about. We already know what the boat is about. I don't even have to repeat it. And you already know. It's emblazoned in your mind right now. We can agree to disagree on this. I think that a lot of the times it may be that, but I also feel like, say, hey, if you

have a lot of money and you own a boat, that's the cheapest date you can do. Boat is tricky. Boat is tricky. If you own a boat already, then it's like, hey, I don't need to spend no money to bring it to a restaurant. I could is tricky. You own a boat already? Then it's like, hey, I don't need to spend no money to bring it to a restaurant. On my docked boat. You're taking a boat on a docked boat? You're definitely trying to get ahead. That's where you're definitely going to go on the water.

That's the equivalent to a rich guy, hey, let's go for a walking date. Who goes on a walking date? Broke niggas. You want to do it? You want to come in my uber pool? We're going to go pick some people up. But that day doesn't come, a walking day doesn't come with the expectation that we're fucking. You don't think they're trying to fuck? No, not trying to.

But not the expectation. The expectation. I'm going to try. Okay. Now if you got the hardest reservation in the city to get back in your single days many years ago, hardest reservation in the city and you take a girl there. The expectation that you're getting sex is exponentially higher than walking date expectations. You don't even know this girl yet.

But what if you... All you know about her is you're attracted to her. Of course the only thing you want to do is fuck. Yeah, but don't you also want to make a great impression the first time you take her on the date? The hardest reservation in the city. you get one of these in your fucking life. For the three girls listening right now. The shittier place a guy takes you on the first date, the more he actually likes you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's proportional. I took my wife to a diner on our first date. We are married. We have a child. Which diner though, this is important. The Silke. See, that's different. That's sentimental.

That's sentimental, but at the same time, it's like I'm not trying to woo you and push all this guilt on you. Look at this amazing night I gave you. And then if you could talk to girls. There are girls who are like, begrudgingly will do sexual acts with a dude because they feel bad that the guy has given them

so much for that night. And that's exactly what that Guy's trying to do. He's trying to put you in a position where you feel bad enough to make him or Act like ten years ago. That was his version of a high-end date Come on, bro Yeah. We not going cap right now. It's an iconic spot. He's like, yo, this place means so much to me.

Like, you was trying. Now, I didn't take it to Chipotle, bro. You know what I mean? That's what he has. So not the cheaper, but that's like a mid-tier, sentimental, not super nice, but this place means something. That's a sweet first date. I'm taking you to, I don't know what's, Terese is the hardest place to get into or whatever.

This is our first date. There is an expectation. Yeah. Not the hardest. Let's go, Bob. Yes, God. Now where's the producer tag? Yes.

What happened? Y'all ain't anybody here. I walk into Teresee and Miles is sitting next to me with a girl that's a four that he thinks is a nine. Oh, I'm walking out. I'm walking out immediately. I'm walking out. I love you out immediately. I'm walking out. I'm walking out.

I'm walking out. But there's an expectation. Mom's that big, all right? Hey, don't you forget it. There's an expectation that comes with that. And acting like that isn't a reality is crazy, because women feel the pressure too. They feel the expectation.

But who do you fix? Do you fix the guys? No. You shouldn't be expecting. No. Nope. Nope. You're not gonna fix. Can I be honest I agree. You're not gonna fix guys. He dropping a lot of money he using up all his fucking he using every avenue he got for you. Don't go if you don't expect to have sex with him. Can I just say one thing? Can't it be on both of them?

Can I just- Shouldn't the guy be in front? No! Shouldn't the guy be in front and just be like can I- Yo you know this is another serious. Can I say one thing? Like we just try them. Can I just say one thing? Can't it be on both of them? Shouldn't the guy be in front and just be like, yo, you know this is another series. We just try them. Can I just say one thing? The responsibility for defense is on the team that has the goal. Woo! Woo!

God damn! Poetry. God damn! This guy's on fire! That's a good metaphor. Let him cook. Let him ghost. They're bitches.

No, you lost it. They're bitches. No, you lost it. You lost it, you're cooking it. You gotta be even harder. The responsibility for defense is on the team that has the goal, women have a goal. We can't get inside without their permission. We cannot, that is illegal.

You go to jail, or at least it's completely covered up by the government. And it never happens. And that never happened at all, right? So the responsibility for defense is on a team with a goal. They have the goal. They have to know the defense. They have to know the different tricks of the game that guys are going to try to do

to get in there because guys are not going to change about that. But they can be defensive and we know they can be defensive because they post videos of them walking down the street ignoring all the guys. Being a girl in New York walking down the street one day and all the guys saying hi hello or whatever they're used to playing defense they play defense all day their their existence around men is 99% defense so let's not act like they don't play what if the guy lies to them what if the guy lies and says hey I love you I want to be with you then they're crazy they said that one day in they're crazy that's a crazy person every if you if you believe that, you're arrogant.

They read fucking smut novels where they fall in love on the first day. So your argument is that they're stupid? No, I read smut novels too. See? So you're both stupid, okay? No, yeah, I think that we gotta stop infantilizing women. We gotta prepare them for the real world.

Like if a guy's throwing crazy shit at you, just know the expectation. If a guy's treating you like he treats the bottle girls, you're a bottle girl. Think about that. If a guy is treating you the same way he treats the livestock, the cattle that gets moved from table to table at the club or gets ordered to go on the boat or gets flown to the different countries for the parties. There are women that are livestock. That's their job. And livestock is good.

Livestock is good. We respect the livestock. But that is their job, right? Like if he treats you in the same way, he's asking you to do the same things that he does the livestock, you're also livestock. Yes. To him. That's not who you are as a person, but to him you're livestock, so you have to act accordingly. It can't be all on the women though. The guys should be honest. We can't just be like, oh, the guy's off the hook, you should have known.

Like nah, come on, a little bit is on the guy too. We should be allowed to lie. I think we should be allowed to lie, because they lie. They lie. You're not that tall. Your eyelashes aren't that long. your eyelashes aren't that long. Your nails aren't that pink. Al ain't that tall either.

His nails don't look like that. We should be allowed to lie. We should be allowed to lie. We should be allowed to lie. We shouldn't, but we should be allowed. And they should be prepared. Wait, wait, wait. Let's say it's a responsibility on both.

How much on the man? I can maybe meet you here. Fuck out of here, Fitti! If we're honest... If we're honest... If we're honest... If we're honest... If we're honest...

If we're honest... I'll do it too. This is my body. Come on, can we both hug? Let's hug during this conversation. Come on, you guys hug too. You guys hug too. Give me a normal hug. If we're honest, the human race is extinct.

Put the hat back on. You telling men not to lie. Put all the shit on. This guy's crazy. You telling men not to lie. Put all the shit on. This guy's crazy. You telling men not to lie.

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Hashtag, you got this. Lying is what is the currency that keeps humanity alive. So what's a lie that we're cool with for men? A lie that we're cool with for men? Cause there's some lies that are too far. Here's a lie that we're cool with for men. Okay. Right?

You're a Capricorn? What does that mean? Okay. That's a lie that is cool for a guy to tell. That's a lie. Okay. Can a guy not say that? That's a lie.

That's interesting. Okay. And you go on. I loved the Barbie movie. Lie! Right? You could be like, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I resonate with the lie. Okay. I see kind of what he's saying here. I'd rather tell a girl I loved her when I didn't, than pretend I loved that fucking movie. Lie! Right? You could be like, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I resonate with a lot. Lie! Okay, I see kind of what he's saying here.

I'd rather tell a girl I loved her when I didn't than pretend I loved that fucking movie. And those are the ones that might cross the line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those ones go a little too far. That's cross the line for me. I have a fucking spirit, dude. So yeah, I think that we should be allowed to lie and they should be equipped to deal with the lies. It's, you know, it is what it is.

It's this is... But then they also should lie. Women should also lie. Yeah, but they do. Nobody said that they don't do that. That is what he said. We assume the lies. Et cetera, et cetera.

We assume the lies. They call it art. Makeup is an art. It's an art form. You're a makeup artist. That is true. That is true. So their lies are art. Why are our lies so terrible? Your lies make you feel better about yourself.

You don't think my line makes me feel better about myself? You don't think Al Pretending He's 5'8'' makes him feel better about himself? I pretend I'm 6'2", okay? No, I have a daughter, so I'm actually invested in this conversation. Are you gonna give her that boat quote? Oh, 100%. Oh yeah, you know, that's the first thing I'm telling. If I have a daughter, what?

Hey, let me tell you something about my daughter. You better be good at lying. You better be good at lying. Because I'm gonna make sure she knows every single fucking trick in the game. I'm not gonna make her go, oh, guys love bomb. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're all liars.

Yeah, if a guy has a top hat, long hair, and comes to you with some cards, run! Pick a number between 1 and 10. For real! Top hat for a reason, bro. That's my daughter, bro. That's my daughter, bro. We were too close!

It was her! I didn't even get it with all due respect! I know that was crazy! I'm saying when you said to the girls, we wore your top hat! That was insane! You wore a top hat! That was crazy! You wore a top hat!

With all due respect, your son's gonna be gay! Your son's gonna be on the top hat too! Like father like son, yo. I'm father like son. Wait, that's still his daughter. That's still his daughter. That was your thing. I know.

He's turning red. I'm not bad. I was never saying that. No, he's OK. He just got red when you called his son gay. That's it. And he's just like, no. Oh, Epstein. This is a son game Epstein oh

Epstein wishing well, dude, so we Oh didn't Trump do that at one point. No, he was doing that to go away. Yeah. Yeah Well, he got his wish Yo, free galania. Don't you know? So again,'t Jews not have hell? Isn't that a thing in Judaism? What's the fucking B&H? What's that? What do you mean they don't have that? What's getting an extra battery for your camera on a Thursday?

Jesus fucking Christ. Are they all ghosts? You tell me what that place is. On a Thursday, he is full of ghosts. Are they all ghosts? Is that what those guys are? You tell me what that place is. On a Thursday afternoon. They're dressed like they're from the 1800s, or they might be ghosts. They might be full on ghosts. Those are the coolest Jews, bro.

Nah, they are fire. They are just so dope. They're fire. They all know me my name now. I do this dress like 1860, but no one knows it. This guy pays. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my god. Yeah, a guy dressed like he's from the 1600s and knows everything about technology. It's amazing. It's awesome. Like a future traveler. If you're not from New York City, B&H is the only place where you can really get camera, audio equipment. Well, there's also Adorama, which is also owned by them.

But like, they have just created the best place. Every other place that you go, we had fucking Nobody Beats the Wiz, and some guy that we went to high school with that knows nothing about cameras, audio equipment. It is the only place where you can go to and trust the people's opinion on the goods. Everybody there is educated about what they're selling.

They pretty much made Best Buy and all those places stop selling cameras. See you later. Cause like they're not pointing at you. You couldn't even trust it. And the prices are as good as anything online. Price is great. You can always, if you have a big order,

you can ask them for a discount. And they just give you a discount. So that's the thing, like. The Jews, bro. Let me tell you something. This is why anti-Semitism in New York City, like keep it away from B&H. Yeah.

You know what I mean? It's very specific. city like keep it away from B&H yeah dude that shit's somewhere else all right we cannot risk losing B&H no yeah the anti-fata has to stay away yeah we cannot globalize the anti-fata because we need B&H we need Adorama. If Zoran can't win dude. If Zoran wins and shuts down B&H and there's a government funded camera store. That's what he's gonna do. That has a minute that reverses. I can't fucking have that. You see what it does.

Nah, if he shuts down B&H, we ride it. Fuck it up. 100%. No, I'll ride for B&H. You know the guy who owns that shit? Apparently takes a salary of $100,000 a year and just donates the rest of the charity. Wow. Which charity? You have a hundred thousand dollars a year and just donate the rest of charity Wow which charity

No, but that is kind of fire right like I could make tons of money All the money and free candy if it's going to They got good candy to get to the end of the checkout. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but you can't now that the fucking blackmail chain is done with The teenagers they have nothing to do What are we gonna do a camera equipment anymore? Why do you think that they have the best camera? Well, how do you think that they have the best camera equipment? It's no longer an Epstein's basement Just baby, we'll let the check out All right, so what are we thinking about this is it is it a disappointing day, dude is disappointing Do we ever find out is there ever any closure on this? No, it's close. Yeah It's Kennedy. Yeah, this is JFK

And then I was watching a Saugers conversation on Tucker. They have a great conversation about this Sauger is like really locked in on this. I didn't realize that how much he knew about like the whole Epstein saga like he was amazingly informed, but he said something and I just wasn't alive so I wasn't aware of it. But like the JFK assassination and all like the bullshit around it and the cover-ups etc. He said really like broke the American people's trust in their government. And I think that that was coincided with Vietnam and like these other wars that just were not entirely popular and MLK and obviously MLK and then JFK. Well obviously JFK, but RFK. but we're already at an all-time low

in our generation trust in the institutions. Yeah. This like, does it shatter it more than it's already shatter? Like, where do we go from here? Like, how do we trust Trump? How do we trust any politician? We tried trusting the anti-government guy, and he ended up being the government.

So yeah, like who do you trust now? Yeah, for real. Like, that's why I wonder what would have happened if Trump like just was like this is everything that's going on and just exposed everything. Like I like part of me is trying to like game theory where I'm like wouldn't that benefit him? I think end game. Yeah, like if he comes out and he's like yo this is how like the wars are working, here's how the foreign influence works, here's how the blackmail thing, assuming all of that is true. And he just exposes everything. It causes a civil war. He puts his life on the line, and then he gets a third term.

It's possible that these things could happen. If he wanted power, is it possible that he could just completely buck the system, gain the support of the majority of Americans, and then just keep the shit pushing? And it is possible to recover- If he did that, they wouldn't have missed. No, no, no, 100%. But it is possible to recover from incredibly like heinous, disgusting acts. Germany is still a country.

Accountability is necessary. You've gotta put these people on trial. They're responsible for these unbelievably horrific acts. So it would require that. It would require outing all the people that were aiding, abetting, and protecting, even if it's hundreds, even if it's thousands of people all across government. But it would take that for America to have the faith and confidence in our system. And these bad actors are not an indictment on the idea of America.

They're an abuse of America, right? Just like we were saying about the churches, right? The Christian church that when someone leaves, doesn't treat them with the same love and kindness is not living up to the ideals of Jesus, right? That's more of the cult, as you were saying. And it's like, you can extract these people, you can punish them, and you can move on.

We've seen it happen in other countries. But it takes an unbelievably brave soul to out that and probably will take their life. That is probably the cost. Unless you win. Which is why I'm like, I don't know if Trump is like a pure dictator in the historical sense. Because if he was, it seems like the environment now is sort of ripe for a dictator to come through and could actually work.

You know what I mean? And the fact that he's kind of like working within sort of like the lines a little bit. You know what I mean? Obviously he steps out of the overdue window, but like there's still a little bit of, you know, like guidelines he's working within, like with the big, beautiful bill. Leads me to believe like, oh, this is just more institutional kind of political bureaucracy. Do you think they sat him down there and were like, listen, we're just gonna kill everybody in your family.

Shit. Man. What do you bring this up? He's so calloused and terrifying. Like, I wonder if that's possible. I think that, I wonder if there's a conversation where it's just like, hey, listen, your family is currently on a trip to Aspen,

and here's the flight, and there's five hours where it's gonna be in the air. Your family is currently on a trip to Aspen. And here's the flight. And there's five hours where it's gonna be in the air. And it might fall out of the air. So we're gonna have you do these certain things. Or else your family will really never be able to fly again because we'll just shoot the plane out of the sky and then just say it's another Boeing issue. Like I wonder if it's that simple.

But then who would be the person having that combo with him? That's what we don't know and I think that's what's so frustrating is like who is the permanent government, who is the quote-unquote deep state, who are the people pulling levers. It's not John Ratcliffe or whoever the new leader of the CIA is. There was a leader of the CIA before him. Who are the people who don't get elected but always exist in the CIA if the CIA is the one that's pulling the strings and in control? Who's like the head of the Pentagon? You know, they have this like black budget they could spend as much money doing whatever the fuck they want like who controls that?

Hmm, you know who controls that spending? Mm-hmm. Like I think that's another really frustrating thing for Americans. It's like who is in control then? Like it seems like Trump can do certain things he wants to do and they don't meddle with it but the second he gets into that space it gets shut down and I imagine that's the same thing for like didn't Kennedy say, there's a quote here. Oh yeah, it's like didn't Kennedy say that thing where Maybe it wasn't Kennedy but didn't Kennedy come after the CIA. We didn't you want to dismantle the CIA and they dismantled his head Yeah, what seems about right? Mm-hmm. You know, I think that like we might be in conspiratorial land right now But like, you know didn't was Lincoln saying a certain thing like who are these power brokers? Who are the people that are pulling these strings and are willing to do the most you know?

Sadistic things in order to maintain that power? I don't think it's American presidents because if there's been a few of them brave enough to try to dismantle it and all of them end up dead. So I don't think it's our politicians that we democratically elect. So who are the people that are not elected and who are the people that are permanently in government? And it's crazy that there isn't even conspiracy about who they are. It's like so entrenched and so disguised. Who do you point to? Yeah, I don't know if it's like specific individual like people that are just like, oh, you're

like the secret dictator. I wonder if it's just like a network of people with influence. If you're like the chairman of the Fed, if you're like the chairman of the WEF, I wonder if it's decentralized, but people kind of talk. I don't know if it's like one centralized Illuminati type force that exists within the government or if it's like different factions of power that are all kind of moving against each other at times and they're playing like an underground chess game. I Don't know the way how Bernie didn't want to speak about to the death threats. That was that was telling you know Yeah, like Bernie Bernie and he speaks about everything Bernie talks about everything and the second we asked him like have you had your life risked or whatever

Like that. He's like, I'd rather not talk about that They tried to kill that motherfucker or they didn't try or they had the combo with them. They had the combo Maybe it works. It's like a psycho stalker and he's like, I don't want to give these people credit. Yeah, again, that's boring put your hat back I appreciate mark I appreciate Mark, you making sure that we don't go off the rails here. I've seen off the rails. Now that we're, now that we're, when do we go off the rails?

So not today, in my life, I know what off the rails conspiracy vibes can do. Can you give us some of those, we're on the rails, we acknowledge that the rails exist and we're on them. Now can you tell me how far it goes? Yeah, come on. Can we call everything. Alright, in what in particular?

Everything. Okay. Everything, Mark, everything. And if you feel uncomfortable with anything, we'll just cut it out. But everything. Okay you have elite bloodlines in every nation in the world that have been in power since you know 500. Okay, and they control actually everything. in every nation in the world that have been in power since, you know, 500, okay?

And they control actually everything. And all the richest people in the world are actually royal families within these countries. In some names that we know, you know what I mean? Like the name changes of like the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds. They control global finance, they move the levers, they play both sides of the war so that they always win. And they're the ones that are actually in control trying to create a global world order where ultimately they will have control over all of humanity So it really doesn't matter what country they reside in

America is just the current hegemony used to be Britain. It used to be France It used to be any nation and eventually it'll be China, but we're already over there and by we I mean those people and they will entrench themselves In those places so that they can maintain their positions of power because Because what's better than controlling one country? When you control the world. The octopus's tentacles go all over. Can you keep going on this? Because this is really fun. I don't even want to. They call it anything.

How do they utilize these systems? How do they blackmail people? How do they? Well, you have to create a central bank. Why is that so important? That way you can control all the money. Yeah, all the money. And why is the control of the money so crucial?

Because you can put people in debt, you can destroy them. You know what I mean? And you can basically pull the levers to decide who gets power and who doesn't because we live in a capitalist system and every nation basically operates under these rules, even if they are dictatorships, they still operate with this sort of trade agreement. So who controls the central bank in the United States of America? Uh oh. This is why they always go there. This is why I always go there.

But who does? Because my understanding is that the institutional banks in America are all run by Irish guys. The hedge funds and stuff are Jews. That's what they want you to think. No, no, no. If you look up, it's kind of a, what is the term, a misnomer or something like that? It's a false conspiracy that Jews run the banks, because the actual real institutional banks are run by Irish guys.

And then the hedge funds and stuff can be run by Jews, but that's not where the real power is. The power is within the institutional banks. But the central bank is different from the institutional banks, because the institutional banks are getting their money from the central bank. So who does control the central bank? The deep state. But like, is there a group, is there a family?

I know Jerome Powell is like the chairman of the Fed right now, but he gets put, he's a new guy that's thrown in there. You know, there was someone before him. I'm trying to remember this book. What was it? The Monster of Jekyll Island. That like in 1914, they came together and they're like,

we're going to make this central bank and every country is going to have one. If they don't have one, we topple their regime. And so everyone needs to have a central bank and then it's all controlled by a family. Which family? You've heard the Rothschild shit. This is where it all falls apart. I don't know. But like we've heard the Rothschild shit and like I'm trying to like make both arguments. I'm sure there's huge advantages for having a central bank ie You have kovat come around we could print a few trillion dollars and people can continue to eat when they're not going out there And working so they're definitely like the central bank can't be so oppressive that the people revolt It has to maintain enough of a status quo where the people are distracted enough that they'll allow the power to reserve

Reside in like this, you this small group of people. Right? But what is that group of people? Is there somebody's name on the Central Bank of America? Is there one family? Is it? That's what I'm trying to say. Yes, I don't know. I mean, again, I'm kind of riffing on old school conspiracy shit that I read when I was

in high school on YouTube. This is feelings. This is feelings, no facts. This is feelings, no facts. I actually don't know what the family is that controls the central bank. I mean, can we give it a Google? I'm sure Chad's gonna be able to answer.

Or is that what you have to tell us? My handler said I have to step down. Holy shit, has Mark been put here? Come on, man. Do you imagine? I was talking to Bruce Amante. I was like, I wanna be a CIA asset. And he was like, nah, I don't think you have it.

No way. I was like, come on, dude. I could be a good one. I could do something. Why? I could do something. Jealous of your hair, probably, this guy. Yeah, he was like, oh,'t think you have it. I was like, come on, dude, I could do something. I could do something. Jealous of your hair, probably, this guy. Yeah, he was like, oh, you're like a nice guy. I told you, Masad tried to poach my boy. No.

I can't say his name because you guys, some of you know him, but yeah, some guy just approached him and they were friends and said he was gonna hire him for this job and then brought him into a room. He was like, all right, that's not actually the job. We would like you to work for us and basically all you have to do is talk to

people, be friends with people, and then one day we're going to ask you where those people are and then they might end up not surviving the boat ride. They go on. Oh, shit. And then he goes, can I think about it? He goes, no, you have to tell me right now. And he goes, I'm sorry, this is just too much. I just need to think about it.

They walk out of the room together and he goes, my friend goes, hey, I appreciate you, I appreciate the offer, it's just a lot right now. And the guy looks him straight in the face and goes, what are you talking about? Wow. That's fire. That's fucking crazy.

I'll tell you. I just bring him on, Duff! No, no, no. Duff got too much empathy. He's too nice for that shit. I know. So does my friend. I think that's why he ultimately was like, I also think that, I don't think he was aligned with, I don't think he feels like Israeli.

Like he's Jewish, but I don't think he's like, I think he feels more American. And but like, isn't that wild? Crazy. I'm sure that happens with CIA all the time. Someone probably scooped Boo Samanta in the same way. Yeah, I talked to a dude that wild? Crazy. I'm sure that happens at CIA all the time. Someone probably scooped Buu Samanta in the same way. Yeah, I talked to a dude that did. I wish they would come to me. They're not coming to you.

Oh, that'd be the dream. You'd be the worst spy. You'd be the worst. I've got like a swastika, no matter where. And you gotta tell everybody. You'd be posting on Instagram. Yes, I get absolute fucking fair everywhere he goes. That's how you get them, man.

We talked about this outside of the pod. What would be the thing that if you were a spy and you're being tortured would make you speak most quickly? I'm not eating not eating. That's what I'm saying Family just not eating for six hours Hours you could the nuclear codes are if someone had a second the handcuffs come on Whatever you want a bunch of loose hair around me, I'd be like, whatever you need, I got the codes. If they put me in wet, cold socks, I'd go,

yep, I'll tell you. Like, whatever you need, Doug. Cold socks. What would be your- Yo, wet socks, that's a rough one, dude. That's a rough one. What would Al's be? Oh, they take his nails off?

I'd never fold. They'll be like, if they were like, you'll have to have sex with a black woman for the rest of your life. I'll be like, Trump will be speaking in Ohio at 8.30. Mark, what would be yours? I don't know. I read about some of these torture things.

I'm like, yeah, probably any of that. Yeah, any of it. Right? Any of it. I'm saying like, what would be like the starter? of that. Yeah, any of it. Right? Any of it. I'm saying like, what would be the starter that would probably break you pretty quickly? Like the easy, simple stuff. What is something that ruins Mark? I mean, cold plunge.

If I put in my Bluetooth and it don't connect automatically, whatever you want, you know, whatever you want, you got it. If someone cuts me in line when I'm getting off the airplane. Yeah. Yeah. You've been getting cut in line for as long as we've known you've not. Oh, if someone cuts me in line when I'm getting off the airplane. Yeah. Yeah. You've been getting cut in line for as long as we've known you. You get cut all the time. No, I stopped it. I took a stand recently. Bullshit. I got it.

I don't believe it. There was a short Chinese over there. You're not allowed to research anything anymore. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. Bullshit. Bullshit. One day. You'll have an original thought in your head. You never stop researching. You just need people. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. I've always heard that if you get kidnapped or someone's torturing you gotta tell them personal information. If I had to stand for more than 15 minutes straight. Oh, that might. Yeah. Like put me on a subway car and I got a little 125th and there's no seats local

I'm silver. Yeah, I think I've got a walk more than six blocks. I'm For a backpack on a hot day. Oh, it's a wrap, dude Oh, yeah, did you have a laptop in a backpack? I'll give you whatever you want, dude You can't look around a laptop Fucking you guys have these big-ass laptops. I like, what are you lugging that around for, dude? Get a Mini. I was gonna fathom someone would have a laptop in their backpack.

Get a MacBook Air, dude. This is a whole argument we had. Two pounds and you're fucking back for no reason. Yeah, we took carbs away from Schultz for 12 minutes and it was bad, so. Yeah, I didn't like that. Took what? Carbs. They put you back in a carb diet.

Yeah, your whole body revolted. That is crazy. What's that? It's tough it out, bro It's not tough. I had a bacteria. Oh I had to get on antibiotics Al did you IV fluids? Yo, can I just tell everybody this and I'm gonna sound so old but I just want y'all to know in case you didn't Know you don't gotta go to the doctor anymore Did you know that? They have a, am I seeing this shit?

They have virtual doctor visits now. So if you know you're fucked up and sick and there's really nothing they could do, you knew this? Yes. Telehealth. You are that out of touch with reality. I got a doctor in 10 years.

I don't know how to do most technological things. This is crazy. I don't have a computer, bro. You know me. I don't know how to do most technological things. I don't have a computer, bro. You know me, I don't have a computer. That's why they haven't compromised me yet. Son, I was watching the Saga episode. But you haven't gone to the doctor in five years? Son, let me just tell you something.

I'm watching this Saga episode with Tucker, and Tucker goes, he goes, hey, yeah, if you talk any shit, they just put kiddie porn on your computer. That's why I don't have a computer. And I was like, that's why I don't have a computer. I luckily just don't have a computer, so they can't put no I don't have a computer. I luckily just don't have a computer so I can't put no porn on my shit. You have no hard drives.

No hard drives. I've never had a hard drive. I don't have a laptop, yo. You can bring it to my house on a desktop, no thank you. That's about files under your bed. Manila folder, like what the fuck, what is this? So yeah, you could do a virtual doctor visit. You just meet a doctor.

You don't have to leave your fucking house. And then your doctor just tells you the shit. And you're like, oh yeah, your stomach hurts. Okay, this is that. You're literally telling us something we all know. I know. I'm telling the people at home. They know too.

They're fucking privileged elites. They know too. Y'all know that? Yes. You know that. It's called telehealth visits. Yeah. Have you heard of like teletherapy?

Yeah, we do it all the time. I do it every week for no fucking reason. At a certain point in time, like, you know, it's like, you just gotta move on, right? Yeah, that's what the doctor says about you in their therapy sessions. How long before AI gets rid of doctors? You don't need doctors. You just put your labs, tell the AI how you're feeling, and it's like it does the job. Let me ask you a question now, okay?

I started my diet. Okay, I started having diarrhea. I just cut out all carbs pretty much, and all just sugars and all that kind of shit. I type in, I started having diarrhea. I type into the chat, I go, yo, I just started a diet. I'm just doing all this carbs. I'm having a lot of diarrhea. And they're like, oh, I just started a diet. I'm just doing all this carbs. I'm having a lot of diarrhea.

And they're like, oh, these are common cases for someone who has diet, just starts a new diet that they call the keto flu or whatever the fuck it is. Right? I go, okay, I got that shit. Six days later, I still got it. I call a virtual doctor, which is a cool piece of technology. I don't know if you guys are aware of it. And I have a conversation with him. Okay, I showed up late to my virtual doctor, which is a cool piece of technology. I don't know if you guys are aware of it. And I have a conversation with him.

Okay, I showed up late to my virtual doctor. That's fire. There's no excuse for that. And then he goes, oh yeah, you just probably got a bacteria. I'm gonna put you on some, you know, antibiotics. Nothing replaces virtual doctor. We'll get to the day, the point where like you can have one of those things that you had the fucking reader and shit like

that. It'll take a little jab of your blood so it can read your labs. You could send a company doing that. It's a it would have known immediately. Well, they're not. Have you heard of them? They're doing that right now. Yeah, they're not as far invented. She was ahead of her time. Son, the doctor said that about a white woman.

The doctor said this shit during was saying that about a white woman. The doctor said this during the visit. It just kind of cracked me up. It's bullshit, right? I'm like, yo, my stomach hurts, and he's just going to give me antibiotics. But he got to make it feel like a doctor's appointment, right? So he goes, at one point, he goes, can you just open your mouth and stick out your tongue?

I'm like, there ain't no way you could see anything, bro. Come on. Ah, like this. We got hamptons, Wi-Fi. There's nothing. It's all blurry. I go like, there ain't no way you could see anything, bro. Come on. Ah, like this, we got hamptons, Wi-Fi, there's nothing, it's all blurry. I go like this, ah, he goes, yeah, you're good. And then he's just going. No, he's just fucking with you. He is just fucking with you.

Yeah, would you mind sitting on a bed, actually? Yeah, yeah, just do that. He's supposed to be checking your fucking totals and shit. You can't see that shit. Get out of here with all that. Antibiotics. I'm telling you, they should put that in the water. The doctors are done.

They should put, they do, according to Mark's mom. What, put antibiotics in the water? Exactly, bro. Maybe you put that in the water in a visa because I got away from American and it's antibiotic water And I got sick immediately every time I leave the country. You cannot handle travel dude. It's crazy It's outside of America. You got food poisoning in a five-star hotel. Yeah, but this guy gets it all the time I went to India. Okay, India is food poisoning. Yeah, it is. It's synonymous. Yeah, but you're Indian, you're supposed to I went to India. India is food poisoning. It is synonymous. But you're Indian, you're supposed to be built for tough. Buddy, I'm American. My stomach tells me that every time I go there. It's a harsh reminder. You're American.

Fucking Toyota. Can you have the water in four weeks? I feel like you got dual loyalty, man. Dual loyalty? Yeah, I feel like you got dual loyalty. I don't know if I could trust your intentions in the United States of America because you love India so much. I do love India, but I am American.

So if it comes down to it, who are you supporting, America or India? India. Yo, at least he acknowledges that shit. You know what I mean? I love Scotland, but y'all are going to be fucked. I love Scotland. Scotland's number two. You are the biggest patriot I know.

Come on, bro. It's the greatest country in the history of the world. It is the greatest country in the history of the world. But America versus India, you're still gonna go India? I love an underdog. Yeah, man, let's go. Hold on. America versus India, you would choose India? Yeah. Why? Why? I don't know. They don't even like you.

I know. But y'all don't like me that much either. But you are us. You are us. You're not them. I can't explain it. You can't even like you. I know. But y'all don't like me that much either. But you are us. You are us. You're not them. I can't explain it. You can't even go live there. You're right. But I'm going. I can't believe that.

But you can't do comedy today. All right, Mike. No, that's true. You were born in France, right? That's true. That might have swayed me right there. What are you, America or French? Well, no one can hear anything we're saying anyway.

Sorry, I had to make this more real. Go on. Oh, shit. You got a black eye. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, sure. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry, I had to make this more real. Go on.

Oh, shit. You got a blaster? Yeah. Yo, that thing looks crazy. America or India? I mean, America or France? I'm not going to India. America or France?

I just want to win. Like, I'll go on the winning side no matter what. So what does that mean? I know, yeah. I'm going to America. But instead of America, it's almost a section down, and it's just like three states, and I'm going to America. But all of a sudden America gets almost a section down and it's just like three states and I'm gonna go probably somewhere else. Damn. I wanna win, yeah. That's fucked up. Al?

China. Who could I choose from? America or Ghana or wherever. Cameroon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd go Nigeria. Over America? Nah, not really. I wouldn't last. I'd go Nigeria over America Honestly thinking when it comes down to it you're picking America He swayed me with a comedy thing a lot. Yeah, come on. Yeah, if you stand up scene is better

Can't do nothing in any of these other countries Puerto That's America. Yeah, but it's not. They can't vote. They got no electricity. Yeah, like it's a prison. Can't vote, no electricity. It's like, yeah. No taxes though, so I'm like Puerto Rico. So, but isn't that fucked up? Now we can't be critical of anybody, any Jew here that's like dual loyalty to, or you guys can't because you have dual loyalty. Like a Jew in America that has dual loyalty to Israel, we can't be critical of that if you guys have dual loyalty to other countries. I'll criticize India. I have criticized India. They're not that happy about it. Really? It's part of why they remind me I'm American.

Really? Yeah. Indians get upset anytime I say anything negative about India. They get so mad. Why? Oh, because they can't handle it because they're little pussies. But it's a bucket full of shit country. Why? Why? Why? You should be able to just say that, right? You can't. Without pissing them off. They should be able to do shit. You better stand up or they're not going to take you back, bro.

Yeah, come on. Nah, I'm American, dude. We got them, bro. The boys. All right. Let's get the fuck out of here, dude. New York over everything, man. Guys, listen.

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