Andy & Ari On3 - A SMALL win and a HUGE loss for the NCAA | RIP Toby Keith from the Sooners | Iowa P Tory Taylor

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Andy Staples on three and boy do we have a lot to talk about. There is a lot going on. Tuesday was a newsy, newsy day. You got stuff going on with the NCAA in Tennessee, the NCAA and the U.S. Senate. You've got potential new option for us to watch college games on TV that has not really existed before. You got Jim Harbaugh taking another assistant from Michigan. So much to talk about. So much, including the very sad news that Toby Keith, very famous country singer, but also very famous Oklahoma football fan, passed away on Monday night.
Starting point is 00:00:44 We're going to talk to our guys from Sooner Scoop, Eddie Rudosevich, and George Stoyer III later in the show about that. We also have an incredible interview with Tori Taylor, the former Iowa punter, one of the greatest human beings to have ever lived. And if you watch this man punt, you know he's one of the best punters who has ever lived. He's about to go to the NFL. We talked to him at the senior role, but we've got to get into what's going on with the NCAA. And again,
Starting point is 00:01:10 I know you guys are tired of hearing about all this governance stuff, but this is big stuff, big, big stuff. So you will remember that last week after it came out, that Tennessee was being investigated by the NCAA and Tennessee punched back, the chancellor fired back at the NCAA. The next day, the attorney general of Tennessee teamed with the attorney general of Virginia to sue the NCAA over its NIL rules. Well, there has been an order in that case. Now, the NCAA won this one, a small victory for the NCAA, which was followed
Starting point is 00:01:50 by a gut punch to the NCAA. So we will start off with the small victory for the NCAA. Judge Clifton Corker in the Eastern District of Tennessee says temporary restraining order that the Tennessee and Virginia AGs requested denied. That was denied on Tuesday. So he does not want to suspend the NCAA's NIL rules right now. But he also writes in a 12-page order, considering the evidence currently before the court, plaintiffs are likely to succeed on the merits of their claim under the Sherman Act. Translation, if this goes to trial, the NCAA is going to lose, and the NIL rules will be what the courts call permanently enjoined,
Starting point is 00:02:44 basically declared illegal, banned, done. That's what will happen according to the judge in the case. The judge in the case. Now, there is a hearing next week, February 13th, for an injunction. Possibly for the same reason that he didn't grant the restraining order, you may not see him grant this injunction. Possibly for the same reason that he didn't grant the restraining order, you may not see him grant this injunction either. He may be to say, this thing needs to go to trial. And so here's why. Basically, he said that the Tennessee and Virginia AGs did not prove that there would be irreparable harm if he didn't suspend the rules right now. Basically, anybody who might be harmed by these rules, whether it's players who are having their market value suppressed by not being able to discuss NIL value with multiple schools before they sign or multiple collectives before they sign.
Starting point is 00:03:35 He's like, listen, those guys may lose some money, but they can sue and get it back, which is again, even when the NCAA wins, it loses because here's the judge saying, I'm not granting this TRO because no one can be irreparably harmed right now because they can just sue the NCAA and get the money later. It's I'm telling you the hits keep coming for the NCAA in this thing, but it's a legitimate reason if he doesn't want to grant the injunction next week, that it's understandable because he's saying, look, I just want to hear the case. And when I hear all the evidence, I will rule on this. But given what you've, what you've shown me already, which is what the Tennessee and Virginia AGs put in their complaint, what the NCAA put in its response, and what the AGs put in their response, the NCAA is not going to win, according to the judge. And that's
Starting point is 00:04:33 putting them in a tough spot because the NCAA has got to figure out what to do about this. Now, the judge does mention that if there's an enforcement action, perhaps that changes some things. But right now, there's no enforcement action. And as long as nobody's getting pulled off the field and nobody's being given a bowl ban or anything like that, then there's no potential for irreparable harm. And the thing about the actual NCAA case against Tennessee, the way these things work, this would take so much time. The case itself between the AGs and the NCAA might be over by the time the NCAA got around
Starting point is 00:05:18 to actually issuing a punishment. Josh in the chat, the States will win this case, I feel the case the NCAA is trying to build against it is the same they have stood on before and lost. Exactly. They're trying to defend it in the same way they defended the O'Bannon case and the Alston case. They're probably going to lose. Big Orange Vol says, everything is fine. Vol Nation, sit back and enjoy watching Nico this year. And that's really what they're talking about. If, if, if Nico Yamame a lot of the quarterback for Tennessee, whose recruitment is probably at issue here,
Starting point is 00:05:51 we haven't been officially told that, but we were pretty sure of that. As long as he's playing and he's not yanked off the field, then the judge is probably right. Then nobody's actually irreparably harmed by this. You know, they wanted to do this before National Signing Day on Wednesday, but there really aren't that many players signing anyway. Now, if they say we'd like to have this done before the next National Signing Day for football in December, that might be a little more legitimate argument. But right now, I just don't know that the NCAA has a lot of optimism
Starting point is 00:06:29 here. Because again, the judge said, and I quote, the plaintiffs are likely to succeed on the merits of their claim under the Sherman Act. Translation, ultimately these rules against NIL payments to recruits or talking about NIL value with recruits are going to be declared illegal because it's price fixing. It's exactly what it is. So tiny victory for the NCAA, possible massive loss coming up. I mean, when your victory is because the judge says they can just sue you later and get the money, that is not much of a victory at all. But it got worse on Tuesday for the NCAA. Before that ruling was issued, Senators Marsha Blackburn and Cory Booker. Now, Marsha Blackburn is a Republican from Tennessee. Cory Booker is a Democrat from New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:07:33 They have worked together before on these issues. Believe it or not, Marsha Blackburn has a sudden motivation to go after the NCAA again. So they reintroduced something called the NCAA Accountability Act, which was first introduced in March 2022. And this is a bill that if passed into law, would essentially give the Justice Department jurisdiction over the NCAA, could allow them to fine the NCAA, would force the NCAA to be more transparent in its enforcement cases. And basically this is what Blackburn said in a statement on Tuesday, the NCAA's history of backroom deliberations that produce unfair punishments for athletes, coaches, and universities
Starting point is 00:08:17 has gone on long enough. Student athletes work their entire lives to compete on the college stage and we must ensure that they're not, that they are properly compensated for their talents, not bogged down with frustrating investigations with an organization that continues to move the goalposts. Yeah. All politics are local, folks. You go after the big orange, somebody from the state of Tennessee is coming after you,
Starting point is 00:08:41 and that's exactly what is happening. Multi-pronged attack from the University of Tennessee. If you're counting the ways, their chancellor has gone after the NCAA. The state's attorney general has filed suit against the NCAA. And now one of their two US senators is working on a bipartisan bill to mess with the NCAA. Now, I think we all understand here, and I've said this many times, and I'm going to say this about this bill too. When the commissioners were trying to get Congress to create an NIL bill to give them guardrails, all they were doing was trying to turn back the clock, screw the athletes some more. I said, don't get the government involved in your business.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Solve your own problems. Getting the government involved in your business is trouble. It will cause you bigger headaches down the road. Don't get the government involved in your business. This is the government involved in their business because they're mad about something the business is doing. This is what you've invited by all this lobbying and saying, well, Congress will save us. Told you. You don't want Congress telling you how to run your business. You don't. So this is bad. What the commissioners wanted was bad. You don't want it.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Go solve your own problems. Ferris in the chat. Democrats and Republicans cannot even agree that today is Tuesday. The fact that they're going to pass a bipartisan bill now is telling you they're not going to pass this bill. This is just a, this is a saber rattling move but again it is amazing in our divided times how much hatred of the ncaa seems to unite people from across the aisle like they don't agree on anything but this josh in the chat in an election year i can see multiple senators running on a campaign against the ncaa exactly so again we don't know how many cases there are in the pipeline right now we know there are more coming so you have the florida one you have the tennessee when the florida state one's
Starting point is 00:10:57 been settled already but there are probably more and if i had to guess at one state that might have such a case coming well why would guess the state of oregon why would i guess the state of oregon because on tuesday at oregon's capital oregon legislators heard testimony related to house bill 4119. What is that? Well, they're trying to amend the state's NIL law, basically to protect athletes from NCAA investigations. So, that would suggest there's something else out there, and maybe the state of Oregon would like to protect its schools and its players from that sort of thing, just as the state of Tennessee is fighting back.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I don't know who at the NCAA decided this was a good idea. Let's go after some big schools. All you're doing is hastening the demise of the NCAA as we know it. Now again, Greg Sankey and Tony Petitti, the SEC and Big Ten commissioners, they're the guys who will eventually remake how all this is done. They can remake it under the guys of the NCAA or under the auspices of the NCAA.
Starting point is 00:12:15 They don't have to, though. And all the people that have jobs right now that are getting paid very well at the NCAA, they might not be because they're part of the problem right now. And again, the decision to target big schools, to enforce the NIO rules, and then to say,
Starting point is 00:12:36 well, coaches wanted this. Read the room. If all the collectives are attached to all the schools are doing the same thing, the coaches don't actually want you to enforce the rules? Read the room. Very, very poor job of reading the room by the NCAA. But let's say this thing passed.
Starting point is 00:13:00 It's not going to pass. But let's say this thing passed. It would allow the Department of Justice to fine the NCAA between $10,000 and $15 million based on different violations that the NCAA could potentially have. It would allow schools to go to arbitration with the NCAA to resolve disputes instead of the current model, which the NCAA has committees for that sort of thing. It is a bad deal for the NCAA right now. They are down bad. So even when they win, they lose. That's what we learned. Okay, I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I don't want to hear about this stuff. Just tell me when the games are on. I can't tell you exactly when all the games are on. But we heard Tuesday that there might be a different way for us to watch the games and I find this very interesting and this is something that we'll probably delve into a little further as the offseason goes on as this thing gets built up ESPN Fox and Warner Brothers Discovery are teaming up to create a streaming service essentially is a cable bundle it's cable cable, but just for sports fans.
Starting point is 00:14:07 So it would have all the ESPN channels plus whatever sports are on ABC, all the Fox channels. So Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, Big Ten Network, plus whatever sports are on Fox. Warner Brothers Discovery has TNT, TBS, through TV. So your NCAA tournament channels, and also you get the NBA on that. So that's a lot of sports because there's a lot of, there's also NBA, there's also
Starting point is 00:14:36 NFL on some of these channels. And my question, and really my only question is what does this cost what are you going to charge me for this because if i buy this then all i need is peacock and paramount plus in addition to it and i've got all the sports i need so right now i got youtube tv i pay the extra to have the unlimited screens and the 4k channels. My bill, I believe last month was $92. If you can beat that, because I've already got Peacock for other stuff and I've got Paramount Plus for other stuff. So I've already got those. If you can beat that, and especially if you can beat it by a wide margin, I'm probably switching because I don't watch anything but sports on cable. None of my family watches anything but sports on cable.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I realize there are people who use it differently, who have news channels they watch or perhaps entertainment channels they watch. But at this point, my wife and I, we watch shows on streaming services because we like to binge them. We don't watch linear television shows. We don't watch them as they come out week by week. I don't care what the new ABC or NBC lineup is each fall. So I'm just fascinated by this because if they can beat the price, it's probably going to work. And it's funny because we, we all kept saying this was going to happen. Like cable broke up, but we, we have so many apps. Now we need some place to have one place to get all of it, which is cable. And now we have a chance
Starting point is 00:16:24 to maybe do that again. So again, don't screw up the price point. That's really all I got to say, because I think you have a good chance of making this work if you don't, because I got 50 something channels I don't use, 50 something channels I don't need. So if you can give me sports for cheaper than what I'm paying for sports now, I think you got a shot. But this is interesting because this is something ESPN, we've been wondering how are they going to do this? How are they going to sell ESPN directly? Ferris says, I get Sling, which gives me ESPN.
Starting point is 00:17:00 It costs me $40 a month. That seems like the price point. I would think so. In which case I'm saving like 50. So I feel pretty good about that. So this is, this is their way to do this without just selling ESPN. Because I think if you just sold ESPN, you run into a problem and college football is part of your problem because you've got very important big 10 games on Fox. You've got big, some big 12 games on Fox as well. And then you've got big 10 games on CBS. You've got big 10 games on NBC. So if you just sold ESPN, you're not going to get any of that. But if you, if you give them the Fox games, which are pretty important, and then you give them some
Starting point is 00:17:43 NBA that you get on the turner networks you get the ncaa tournament on the turner networks i think there's a good chance especially if you're going to give me a few bucks off of of hulu and max and all the all the attached stuff disney plus like because my kids love all those so i'm going to have to have those so if you can give me a few bucks off of those saving money on the cable I'm feeling pretty good about that but I want to see the price point that's that's the big thing right now show me the price point and then we can talk all right other news also football related Jim Harbaugh continues to hire away from Michigan on the day that Jesse Mentor, the defensive coordinator,
Starting point is 00:18:30 wished goodbye to Ann Arbor in a tweet. And we knew he was going. Harbaugh takes defensive line coach Mike Elston. They've also lost Jay Harbaugh, the special teams coach, Jim's son, but he went to Seattle to work with Mike McDonald, who also used to work in Michigan. And that is the Elston ones tough. Again, you talk about the people that they didn't want to lose. Elston was certainly one of those. Ben Herbert, the strength coach who left last week, one of those. So Sharon Moore now has to prove himself as a head coach very, very quickly in terms of hiring assistants, in terms of filling out that staff, because he can't let their momentum fade. They just won a national title. They're one of the hottest names in college sports.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And they need to keep going with this. They need to be able to keep recruiting on this, and it's hard. It's hard when so many people who helped with the national title are now leaving, but that was to be expected with Jim Harbaugh going to the Chargers. But these next few weeks will be an interesting test for Sharon Moore.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I'll be very curious to see how he hires for these jobs because they are very, very important. Now for the strength coach, they elevated Ben Herbert's top assistant. So the idea is continuity is happening there, but it's a little bit different with some of these on-field assistant jobs. So Sharon Moore, you are now getting a chance to earn this paycheck, probably a little faster than you wanted to, but good luck.
Starting point is 00:20:14 You appeared ready for the job. You really did. And now you get to show it. Now you get to prove it. So very interesting situation at Michigan. We will find out very quickly. How big is Sharon Moore's Rolodex? Who does he know? Who does he trust? Who does he think can keep this thing going? So we'll keep an eye on that. Also need to keep an eye on prize picks.
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Starting point is 00:23:14 We got to talk about a more serious subject. Unfortunately, on Monday night, a great one passed away. Toby Keith, country singer, very dedicated Oklahoma football fan at the age of 62, way too young. And I thought, okay, let's bring on our Oklahoma guys, the Sooner Scoop guys, Eddie Rudasevich and George Stoyer III, to talk about this. situations where you have a celebrity fan who is a genuine true fan who is deep in the fabric of that program who was always around that program and this is a guy that let's be honest a lot of us grew up listening to and I it just it was a gut punch on Tuesday morning to wake up to that news and so we we talked to George and to Eddie about that, also about Oklahoma and this coming season
Starting point is 00:24:08 and the move to the SEC and where everybody's excited to go. There's a lot to talk about in Norman, but first, raise your red solo cup and pour a little out for Toby Keith. All right, we are joined by our friends, George Stoy and Eddie Radosevich from sooner scoop and a sad day in oklahoma on tuesday uh mourning the passing of toby keith that way too young at 62 and you know normally we don't talk about this stuff guys but celeb you know sometimes you have a celebrity fans who say, oh, I like this team or whatever. Toby Keith was a
Starting point is 00:24:47 die-hard Oklahoma fan. I saw him in a bunch of games. I'm sure you guys have seen him a million times around town. How much did he mean to the Oklahoma program? Massive. I I think that like one of the best examples Andy probably just to kind of give a encapsulation of what his you know fandom was for Oklahoma. I obviously you would run into him at football games and he would be at almost all of them on the sidelines, but you go to a Tuesday night, what are, you know, one of those like Tuesday night, non-conference games against directional state basketball, he would
Starting point is 00:25:20 be there. And he was always on the baseline right next to Joe Castiglione. Uh, you know, I do all the video for Sooner Scoop. And so I would sit just right on in front was always on the baseline right next to Joe Castiglione. You know, I do all the video for Sooner Scoop. And so I would sit just right on in front of him on the baseline. It's, you know, a tremendous loss. And I think that, you know, what he was able to do for the board community, you know, not included just in terms of what he would do, you know, when tornadoes and stuff like that blow through. But with the Toby Keith Foundation, he was always giving back.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And one of those guys, George, that I think when you think of Toby Keith, he was maybe the most approachable, uh, you know, superstar that you would come across as far as, uh, you know, what he was and who he was. He treated everybody about the same. It was, it was incredible. I mean, anybody could talk to him. He would blend in with the crowd. I mean, if you were just to bump into him at an OU football game or OU basketball game, you would think he was just a big OU fan. And I remember the first time I met him, Joe Castiglione introduced me to him at a women's basketball game in 2016 and shook my hand and said, Oh, hi, George, I'm familiar with your work. Keep up the good work. And for that, for him to say that to me, just a student reporter, I was like, that's crazy. And so that's the type of guy he was, is, is he just was very easy to talk to.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Like you said, Andy, just a diehard OU fan. I mean, he was, he was one of us. Like he was somebody that anybody could relate to, uh, when it comes to sports growing up in the state. I think as the story goes through, he has a restaurant in downtown Oklahoma city and with them playing the softball championships, uh, you know, about five miles from downtown Oklahoma City, and with them playing the softball championships, about five miles from downtown Oklahoma City, after they had won, I believe it was the first of the three straight national titles, they were trying to figure out a place to go. And it might have even gone back into 2016, 2017. They were looking for a place to go.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He's like, well, hell, I have a bar. Let's just go all over there. And so it's become a tradition of sorts for Oklahoma softball to win the national championship. And then they make the four minute drive downtown to go hang out at Toby Keith's bar and grill, which is right in the Brooktown area. Wow. So I just remember I was a sophomore in high school and should have been a cowboy came out and it was the height of the young country era. So the sound of country was changing some people didn't
Starting point is 00:27:26 like that but here was one that was kind of it was the new sound but it was a throw like i bet you never heard old marshall dylan say miss kitty have you ever thought about and boom right there like i bought the cd within a week i think of hearing that song. And it's funny, because a lot of people, they think of Cursive Red, White and Blue, we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way. But he had a lot of iterations of singer songwriter and traditional country, kind of newer country. But I always liked the fun stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:02 The, how do you like me now? Red Solo Cup is just genius yeah he i think what was that it was the uh i think he had 20 number one singles which is you know i think even surprised me i i didn't realize he had that many and i think that like there was one that uh he had wrote for way matizdo after his passing that a lot of Oklahomans – It was nominated for a Grammy. It kind of tugs at your heartstrings. Yeah, it was nominated for a Grammy. I know the one for me is Red Solo Cup because, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:34 I grew up listening to Toby Keith in my dad's Ford F-150, and I remember Red Solo Cup coming out and that being just a massive hit. That Thanksgiving that year, I think I was in middle school or early high school. And my aunt, who was the biggest Toby Keith fan, bought dozens of Red Solo Cups and all of my cousins and aunts and uncles just got hammered drinking out of Red Solo Cups and just playing the song on repeat. I mean, the guy was an icon in the state of Oklahoma and in country music. I mean, he will be remembered as an American patriot. Like you said, Andy, I think a lot of people will remember all the songs he did for the troops. I think he went over to Afghanistan one year and sang for the troops over there. So just so many different facets of life that I think people will remember him by.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. And the thing, like, especially in Oklahoma, cause that the, the genuine fandom is just crazy. And the fact that you have Toby Keith with OU and then Garth Brooks, who was literally a javelin thrower for Oklahoma state. And I, like I interviewed Garth Brooks a few years ago when I was at Sirius XM. And there was another situation where I'm not sure how much of a fan he actually is. And when he called Taylor Cornelius corn dog, I was, I was like, okay, you are, you are definitely one of us also. And so to have that, you know, kind of yin and yang of, of you've had Toby Keith and Jim Ross over on the OU side, he had Garth Brooks on, on the Oklahoma state side. Like
Starting point is 00:30:01 it's just, it was so much fun. Yeah, it is. And I think that certainly his presence around the program, I know that Caleb Kelly had shared a story that he remembers kind of his first meeting of Toby Keith. And I think that it was one of the things, too, that really didn't necessarily surprise me but jumped out this morning and everybody kind of putting out their memorandums or their tributes or memories or stories of him on social media was just how many players recognized toby he was around the
Starting point is 00:30:29 program so much and they all developed some type of uh kinship or friendship with uh you know each guy had something or you know or woman had something to say about uh their relationship with toby so it's uh you know certainly uh was a surprise to wake up this morning to that news and you know certainly sad uh sad stories way too young at 62 i know well rest in peace toby and ed we we will definitely have something from a red solo cup tonight in tribute but uh guys let's talk about ou we we haven't gotten a catch up really since OU, they promoted the offensive coordinators, but then now hired a defensive coordinator. How different could they look next year? Or is it trying to be as similar as possible, but with different people? I think the biggest thing defensively, they're going to look the same, I think for the most
Starting point is 00:31:24 part. Now, I do think that they've gotten more talent when you look at the class that they're bringing in, as well as some of the players that they got through the transfer portal. And you bring in a Zach Alley, who's going to be co-defensive coordinator. We'll see if he's actually calling plays. He's a Brent Venables guy, so they're not going to be changing up a whole lot defensively. Offensively, I do think you could see some change. I mean, you have a new quarterback in Jackson Arnold. We've talked a lot about him.
Starting point is 00:31:47 What does he look like next season in a Seth Luttrell offense that is air raid versus what they were running last year, which was the spread under Jeff Lebby and also a totally rebuilt offensive line. I mean, they're having to replace several guys that are going to the NFL draft. I mean, Tyler Guyton is probably going to be a first round draft pick come April. You also lose Walter Rouse at left tackle, Andrew Raymond center, who just had a really nice senior bowl, McCade Mattauer at right guard. So really you're replacing pretty much your entire offensive line next year. And you have a whole new offensive system. So I think that's the side of the ball where you're going to see the biggest difference. Most interesting. Go ahead. Go ahead, Andy. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was just going to say like the biggest difference. Speaker 2 Speaker 1 Speaker 2 Speaker 3 Speaker 4 Speaker 5
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Starting point is 00:32:41 Speaker 24 Speaker 25 Speaker 26 Speaker 27 Speaker 28 Speaker 30 Speaker 31 Speaker 32 Speaker 33 along with Jackson Arnold and what he's inheriting in terms of field position talent, they're an extremely talented football team. It's just what's that question mark or how's that question on the offensive line going to be answered? Certainly on the defensive line perspective and especially with their stepping into in the SEC, I think everybody around here knows that those two units are going to have to be extremely, extremely good if you want to make that jump into whatever that elite level is. Well, and that's what's interesting to me is
Starting point is 00:33:09 the bodies that Brent Venables has brought in since he got the job. It definitely looks more like an SEC defensive line than it did before. And the question is, do you guys think that it will play like that initially? Because the body types are there now. I think it's a huge question mark of what is this freshman class able to do quickly? Because they do bring back some experience, and it's huge. Getting back a DJ Perry, Jacob Lacey, two guys that are both going to be playing their sixth year of college football and have played really well for Oklahoma, as well as the other stops that they've been at. But can a David Stone, a five star recruit come in and make an
Starting point is 00:33:49 impact year one? I mean, a Danny Akoye, those type of guys, you know, guys that they went out and got in the transfer portal, a Caden Woolard from Miami, Ohio, who was super productive in the Mac. What kind of impact can he make? But it's that freshman class where you you name a couple guys, David Stone, Jaden Jackson, Nigel Smith, those guys in particular, can they make an impact in their first year? Because they're losing quite a bit of experience up front and some bigger bodies, but they're also bringing in their most talented defensive line class in 20 plus years. And so it's, can those guys actually make an impact as quickly as possible? Because I think they're going to need some of those guys to be in their rotation.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And certainly like continued development of the P.J. Adebore's of the world of or Mason Thomas, who it seems like never really got his sophomore season underway because he was battling injury for so many times throughout the year that really started, I think, flash to be the type of guy that a lot of people thought he was going to be going into this season. And then, you know, you get guys back as far as like a trace forward or somebody like that that they need those guys to really take that next step from a developmental standpoint and be contributors when oklahoma gets into the sec so jackson arnold will be playing behind a revamped offensive line i
Starting point is 00:35:00 yeah i go back to the alamo bowl with him and there are moments where you're like i see exactly why everybody's so excited and then there are moments where you're like, I see exactly why everybody's so excited. And then there are moments like, oh, God, he's a true freshman. And do you think that experience where he had essentially a spring practice to be the starter and then play a game and then have now this extended period to kind of digest what happened, Do you think that's going to help him going forward? I think we're going to look back at the Alamo Bowl. I don't know about a blessing in disguise because you certainly never want to see a guy turn the ball over six times in his first career start.
Starting point is 00:35:35 But at the same time, like you said, Andy, there were certain throws, and they probably were throws that didn't even go for scoring drives. I can remember two or three particularly that you go whoa okay that's that's something that you know oklahoma fans i think are probably a little bit more used to with the baker mayfield keller murray jalen hertz's of the world as uh and even caleb to a certain extent what a spoiled fan base at the quarterback position yes at the time you are gonna have to probably go through those uh you know low points and turning the ball over and i think oklahoma fans just hope that it doesn't come at a certain moment in the cotton
Starting point is 00:36:11 bowl or making that first trip down to baton rouge or you know over on the plains against auburn or wherever and certainly missouri with kind of the rivalry that i think a lot of people have uh created off the field so uh you know i think it is going to be a positive to a certain extent but there are going to be moments throughout 2024 that you go oh yeah he is a true freshman i i do enjoy the oklahoma missouri recruiting rivalry where like the state legislatures are trying to outdo each other in terms of nao which may not even matter in in a week but uh but but it is funny how that sort of developed between the the two you know former big 12 big eight rivals uh speaking of which now they do go to columbia that is a place that that many oklahoma fans are familiar with because of the
Starting point is 00:36:58 old conference affiliations but they're going to auburn they're going to oxford they're going to Auburn. They're going to Oxford. They're going to Baton Rouge. What's the one that you think excites the fan base the most in terms of trip? Boy, I've heard a lot of people talk about Oxford making that trip. I almost kind of wonder, though, is the excitement pertaining to the events in Oxford, does it have more to do with the chicken on a stick and what you get into before kickoff over at the Grove? Absolutely. Here's the thing. There's a game in Oxford, a game in Baton Rouge. If you choose between the two based on tailgating, I'm going to tell you as someone who's been to all of these places, you go to Baton Rouge. LSU is the best tailgating on earth. There is no competition just because they hang chandeliers in their tents in Oxford does not mean that it competes with them roasting entire alligators.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was going to say, I would co-sign with that. I was, I was going to say, I know for us personally, I, I it's LSU for me, like I'm being, and I'm, I'm hopeful it's a night game. And you also look at where it's lined up in the schedule and maybe Oklahoma or LSU is playing for something really important maybe to get into that 12 team cultural playoff at the end of the season and it's coming off the Alabama game that one to me is the one that I've circled as I've heard the atmosphere is just unbelievable I do think though a lot of OU fans are going to make the trip to Oxford at least I've heard quite a few say that Auburn as well I haven't heard a ton. Uh, just because I think a lot of fans have probably been there before. Yeah, they've been there, but I would say they got some rocks.
Starting point is 00:38:33 There's an M yeah. And it's not a place that I think that the last time that Oklahoma was up there was not the, uh, was it the Landry Jones game when he, they turned the ball over and lost, they ran back the opening kickoff. I was at that. I believe I was at, I was at the Landry Jones game when they turned the ball over and lost? They ran back the opening kickoff. I was at that. I believe I was at the 2010 game when they lost as the number one team in the country. And in Missouri, everybody stormed the field. That was a hell of a night in Columbia. And by the way, if you're an OU fan and you have not made the trip to Columbia yet,
Starting point is 00:39:02 those burgers at Booch's, they hit the spot. But I want to point out, so the first SEC road trip is Auburn, September 28th. If you haven't thought about it, if you're trying to figure out which one to go to, and you're thinking, oh, I don't know if I want to do the Auburn one or the Ole Miss or the LSU, think about the Auburn one. Because Auburnurn fans really nice. As long as you're not an Alabama fan, they love visiting fans. They treat them very well. And the atmosphere in Jordan hair, I don't know how good Auburn is going to be. We'll see. I think they're going to be better than they were, but there are days in Jordan hair where the 85 bears could come in and won't win because those people just go
Starting point is 00:39:46 berserk. So if you want to get a taste of what just a crazy sec atmosphere is, the first one out of the gate might be the one. I want to see the Eagle fly around. Yeah. Awesome. Like that's good. I love live animals too. So so that's again lsu going in the tiger it's gonna be awesome it's exciting anyway it's exciting but at the same time andy i think that like you look at that back into the schedule we were talking about this on the youtube show uh maybe last week george it can be terrifying when you look at the way that it'll hold the end then and and really i mean i don't't think Tennessee's going to be a cakewalk. I don't think Auburn's going to be a cakewalk.
Starting point is 00:40:28 South Carolina even come into town with Shane Beamer and everything that they're trying to kind of get the ship righted back. So it's an extremely tough schedule, but I think one that Oklahoma fans have been, I think, really kind of yearning for a long time before. Yeah. It's going to be so different than what they're used to. And, you know, I I've seen this and, and there are fans in Georgia and Florida that feel the same way as OU and Texas fans do where they play this big neutral site game,
Starting point is 00:40:55 but it does tend to make the home schedule kind of boring or did tend to make the home schedule kind of boring with divisional play in the sec. So like Georgia and Florida fans are pumped at all the new, you know, new blood they get to see. I'm sure Texas fans are feeling the same way about their home schedule now. Oh, you fans, same thing, but you're right. None of it's easy. Like, like South Carolina is a good example. They come October 19th. So get them right after the Texas game, right before a road game at Ole miss is a terrible sandwich game situation. South Carolina signed three five-star recruits in the last two years, guys. They recruit well. There's talent. Absolutely. And I think that that's why when you play these games that I think Oklahoma will probably be favored in, it's a lot like Big 12
Starting point is 00:41:44 in basketball right now. You've got to be able to take advantage of your home schedule. And the home schedule for Oklahoma, George, I know that you've wrote about this. I think you're talking about maybe one of the, quote-unquote, best home schedules in Norman. They had the Ohio State game back in 2016. But outside of those marquee matchups that you have every once in a while I think that the Oklahoma fan base and certainly the merchants around here are starved for what
Starting point is 00:42:11 is going and should be an exceptional home schedule in 2024 yeah I mean it goes back to early 2000s when you had A&M who was rolling back then they they would come into town you had Kansas State who obviously under Bill Snyder was doing really well. We had the year where Alabama came to town. That's what you're looking at because it's the old Big 12, right? That's when they were really, really good. The conference was the best in the country in a lot of regards. I think you look at it, too.
Starting point is 00:42:38 They sold out their season tickets within, what, a month or two? Yeah. And they already announced that a few months ago which i can't remember the last time that happened i mean even the last few years they've been going up till kickoff saying hey we still have tickets available and they've kept that sellout streak alive uh well i don't know exactly how they kept it alive a few times but that's not probably ended up buying a bunch of the extra tickets and them out to everybody around town exactly but that's no longer an issue uh when you talk about the alabamas of the world
Starting point is 00:43:08 coming to town or even tennessee and all of those big opponents yeah it is going to be so much fun i imagine oklahoma fans just counting down the days until this season starts because i mean really this this started in in 2021 in in July with the news that they were going. Think about it. You're talking about a three-year gap before you actually get to see it come to fruition with the Tennessee ball showing up in Norman for a conference game. Which on top of, even if it was just Tennessee, that would be a story in and of itself. And I think they had them here not too long ago.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah, they did. Josh Heifel is going to be on the other sideline. And just kind of the animosity between Oklahoma and Josh and just that whole situation, which was really fascinating to kind of see from afar at SEC Media Day this past summer, it's going to be, I think, you know, hopefully everybody to a certain extent respects what that is and the relationship with Josh. And I think how that bridge might have been looked at as maybe burned over the last couple of years. But I think that there is some movement to maybe get that thing at least seemingly talked about because the memory of what Josh Heupel is to people in Norman is incredibly important, and certainly the start of Bob's era
Starting point is 00:44:27 and everything that came with that. Well, I don't blame Josh for feeling the way he feels because of the way that ended. I mean, they were rolling offensively, and then they bogged down. I think Bob had to make the move. I don't think you can argue that it was the right move at the time, but I understand why that would piss Josh off. So, but I hope they can patch it up because not, not only not, not because I
Starting point is 00:44:53 think that Josh needs to be the Oklahoma coach someday, I think Josh is doing a great job just sort of planting his own flag, but like he should be a beloved. Former player, which he is, but should feel that love as well and not feel bitter about the whole place and i think some of a lot of that animosity has has gone away i know talking to some people just this last year in the administration that i think that they plan to celebrate him in some fashion um and honor him oh yeah that'd be great and i think he'll get a standing ovation i really do i mean i think the fan base has somewhat moved on from that whole ordeal because i mean there was a lot of fans that wanted josh eipel fired uh yeah dad
Starting point is 00:45:35 but uh i remember him talking about that but you know i think that you look back and what he meant to the university like you said eddie winning a national title, which Oklahoma hasn't won one since, feeling like he was robbed of the Heisman Trophy that year as well. I think that OU fans still love Josh Heupel, and they've moved on and really ended up working out for everybody involved. I think at all heart of hearts, Josh would probably tell you whether he wants to admit it or not, moving on from Oklahoma, it was a little bit like what Brent had to do when
Starting point is 00:46:06 he went to Clemson ironically that yeah you had to react yourself a little bit you look in the mirror you make the changes that you need to make and obviously what he's been able to do at Central Florida and now Tennessee I think you know the rest is kind of history and if he needs a reminder I'm sure that uh I don't know what bank he uses in Knoxville but I'm sure when he logs into his bank account, he looks at it. He's doing just fine. He's feeling all right. Let's not forget, too, OU went on to hire arguably the best offensive line in college football in Lincoln Riley.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Now you're trying to get us canceled. Yeah. I mean, OU canceled. You can't say nice. Wait. Okay. I need to ask you guys this because I'm curious. When does the statute of limitations end on Lincoln?
Starting point is 00:46:46 When are you guys allowed to say something nice about him? Like, hey, he coached some Heisman Trophy winners at Oklahoma. That was cool. I've said nice things about him since his departure. I don't think the fan base, the fan base, as much as they've moved on from Josh Heupel, I'm not sure they'll ever move on from the lincoln riley situation yeah i think that that's something that uh might end up going into perpetuity i there is no end in sight for the uh displeasure and uh anger that comes when lincoln
Starting point is 00:47:15 riley's name comes up they relish every usc loss it's it is if you think that people love like hate watching sports just get around a television at a bar in Oklahoma City at about 930 on a Saturday night when USC is playing. Well, guys, you've already got me pumped up for September. Like, I don't know how I'm going to make it till September. We only have one football game left between then and now. But I am so excited and uh thank you so much we will be in touch and uh i need to come visit y'all in spring practice there's a it's a lot of excitement all right george story the third eddie radosevich from sooner scoop thank you so
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Starting point is 00:50:05 I wanted to talk to. And I was so happy. And you're going to find out within about 10 seconds of this, this clip starting why Tori Taylor, the former Iowa punter is one of the greatest human beings on earth. This guy's awesome. Love his story. You're going to love it too. Even if you're not an Iowa fan, you're going to be a Tori Taylor fan and you're gonna love it too even if you're not an Iowa fan you're gonna be a Torrey Taylor fan and you're gonna root for wherever he winds up in the NFL so take it away me and Torrey all right full disclosure here hand up this is Torrey Taylor he's Iowa's punter he's the best punter in the world I I just did a 10-minute interview with him. It was the best interview I've ever done, and I forgot to press record.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And this is how good of a human being he is. I'll do it again. He's doing it again. I'm always happy to talk. Good God almighty. All right. Well, we'll start over. 4,479 punting yards.
Starting point is 00:51:00 NCAA record. Single season. The MVP of Iowa's team team which you denied the first time but yeah i'm gonna keep saying it okay i appreciate it i guess that's really just a matter of opinion but in terms of the whole like record it's obviously pretty cool yeah it's one of those things you know no one punts as much as um iowa so i doubt it'll ever be broken which is pretty cool i mean if it is in soviet i don't really worry about about it. It's obviously a pretty cool achievement and one of those things. I guess it's a world record, but I don't pay too much attention to that stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Well, I got to ask you again now because we talked about your first game. And you come over from Australia. It's the pandemic. Yeah. Your first game is against Purdue. There's no one in the stands. What was that like? Yeah, it was obviously a pretty
Starting point is 00:51:45 whirlwind experience i'd never really stepped foot on a um into a stadium or anything it's a giant stadium there's nobody there yeah i didn't really realize how big the stadiums were and kink's obviously pretty big but even going to padua i knew it was smaller but we got there i'm like oh holy crap it's actually still a pretty big stadium. So, yeah, I remember it was – yeah, it's pretty weird. I didn't really know too much about football at that stage because I was new to it, but I was a little nervous, but I thought, you know, I'm just going to go out there and have fun. This is what I'm over here for, and, yeah, learn a lot during the game.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Coach Parker cussing at all the refs and things like that. Yeah, he won't mind me saying that because it's true and everyone sees it. Our first interview, we discussed Phil Parkerer he's iowa's defensive coordinator i think he should make 10 million dollars a year oh totally more tori agrees yeah everyone knows he's the man in that building and so he's he is an absolute psychopath yeah for sure i mean you know what like is that why that defense is so good i think so yeah yeah it's one of the best defenses in the country coach parker and i feel like coach parker coach woods and um coach wallace are probably you know three of the better coaches in america and they're really what gets that that place going as well as coach ference as well no knock on him he's done a terrific job getting everyone together as well
Starting point is 00:52:58 well lavar woods we didn't mention him in interview number one but the special teams coach tightest coach he'll actually be here tomorrow which is exciting i mean what what did he do for your your career how did he how did he help you yeah well first and foremost he recruited me from australia which is um probably the most important part but i think one thing that i really liked about coach woods especially the last couple of years of my career was he really just emphasized me being me not trying to be someone i'm not or not trying to be this person or you know go do this like this person does it was not never any of that it was just like well what what are you good at and let's do that so that's one thing i'm really grateful of and he's just a really good
Starting point is 00:53:34 person you know i'm really grateful to build a strong relationship with him and his family and really grateful for him more so as a person not even really as a coach so you came through pro kick australia which is the the organization that places a lot of the of you guys and with teams over here how does that recruiting process work like when when you're getting recruited what do they tell you about iowa and how are you like what other schools were you looking at how did you decide i won't go into too much detail in terms of other schools but it really just works out in the sense that i went um down there um in 2019 yeah kind of thought you know what i'll give this a go and yeah my mom and my mom and dad were like yeah you know what whatever you choose um we'll back you in and um my dad was i said don't be one of those guys
Starting point is 00:54:17 sitting in the pub yeah 20 30 years time going you know what i should have could always either you do it or you don't it's pretty black and white and i thought, well, I'm not really enjoying what I'm doing now. I might as well just go over there and have fun. And it's pretty crazy. I'm sitting there four years later. And you're going to the NFL? Yeah, at the Risa Senior Bowl. It's pretty exciting.
Starting point is 00:54:34 So what were you doing at the time? Yeah, so I was working in construction at the time. And I also worked at a golf club. Thought about going to university to do a construction management degree. And that was kind of a big priority for mine and then found out about this pro kick thing and i kind of thought well i can go to university whenever i want i can't really punt when i'm 40. right well maybe there's some yeah some of the australian guys have tried it when you're 40. so now i take it the construction job you don't have a degree in construction management yeah so now i take it the construction job you don't have a degree in construction management
Starting point is 00:55:06 yeah so you were you were not top of the total you were kind of low on the totem pole what were your duties there i was actually just laboring to help out um a local company down my way and like i said to kind of try and get my foot in the door yeah and just a bit of um side money while i was training as well and then once it hit covered everyone everything shut down so i couldn't work anymore and um i was really just yeah doing my thing at pro kick and the rest is history and then you find out hey there's there's a little place called iowa yeah yeah for sure is this heaven no it's not does anybody ever talk about so that is a movie that came out before you were born what is it it's of dreams heaven like no it's all or something yeah it's they're they this guy makes a baseball field out
Starting point is 00:55:47 of cornfield yeah yeah and my family actually went out there and my dad took a couple of me mates out there i reckon when he was here in november and they're like you gotta see yeah but i've never been so full for the baseball field in cornfield yeah i've never been yeah i don't have much interesting going on well i think you're fine you're doing just fine yeah the this has been you know such a i guess a gross experience probably in terms of just learning football did you become a better punter as you learned how the game worked uh i'd say yes and no it was really one of those things that i didn't know too much about it at the start and football was such a complicated game in itself that i just kind of tried to keep things simple and just simplify it as much as i could and at the end of the day i'm punting the ball
Starting point is 00:56:33 and that's what i've been doing for 20 years yeah there's obviously different things that go into it you know the nfl if i'm fortunate enough to get onto a team um it's going to bring a lot of different challenges that that college doesn't have just in terms of scheme and more so personnel you know like it's the best the best of the best out there every single week you know i think that's why they get paid so much and if you don't do your job you're out the door oh yeah and the athletes are obviously incredible you got to play with some really great ones at iowa and during interview number one that i wasn't recording you uh you told me a story about cooper to gene yeah and i mean this is the best player on the team this will be the best player in all football yeah one of the highest draft picks you know on this team and he's insistent on being a gunner
Starting point is 00:57:16 on the punt team yeah i think that's one thing that you know i met with the team last night and they said you know if you could bring anyone along with you who would it be and i kind of they probably thought it was such a simple answer because he's a first round pick but i kind of said to them that i said it's not because he's a great corner or anything or a great football player it was more so just his willingness to want to play on special teams yeah which i think is really important and you know kubrick could he's like at many other schools there's many players that are like i don't want to play on special teams you know we had a couple of guys that are, and I mean, it's not going to work out for them.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And I think that kind of shows. Whereas Cooper was like, if you guys take me off punt, look out. I mean, that's unbelievable. I think that was really appreciative of him. Because a lot of times the coaches will pull a guy like that off. Yeah, yeah. And he doesn't let them. No, he loved it.
Starting point is 00:58:02 And you could kind of tell how much the team missed him when he left. but yeah he's one of the the greatest players that i've ever seen and um yeah i think our fans probably didn't really realize what they were seeing it was it was incredible but yeah well you may wind up on same nfl team that would be nice amazing yeah and he'll insist to be a gunner yeah exactly yeah all over again so you you had these t-shirts hunting is winning which is very famous iowa slogan uh how did that come about yeah so a company in iowa city actually reached out to me called ray gun and they said oh hey we've got this awesome t-shirt design and i said oh well i appreciate you making it but i'm really not too interested in any nil yeah um just yeah thought it was a distraction i think you kind of see that now you know that's all people are really worrying about and at the end of the day all i was focused on was just winning football games and being a good um punter in
Starting point is 00:59:01 itself and yeah anyway ray gun reached out to me and i just said no i'm not interested thank you but then they reached out and again and i said well as long as i don't have to worry about anything and they said well you won't and we'll send that we'll send the money off to charity i said yeah no worries just send a check to the hospital and i thought you know i might make a couple hundred bucks here or there yeah but then um they ended up actually sending the money to a stillbirth prevention um charity in iowa called count the kicks that was started by five ladies that had lost children at a young age um so it was started by them but yeah it was probably the first couple of months raised like eleven twelve thousand dollars yeah i think it got to about
Starting point is 00:59:39 thirteen thousand thirteen or fourteen thousand dollars by the end of the year and then i think now it's around like the sixty seventy thousand mark but now that i'm like people probably aren't gonna buy much anymore i don't know i think they'll keep buying yeah maybe you know you've left a legacy now yeah yeah for sure what's it like when you meet the ladies who who found a charity like that yeah like i said before i didn't really know too much about it like i didn't know anything about it until mike from ray gun mentioned it to me did a little bit of research on it and yeah it was obviously pretty special just under understanding and getting to know them and really just understanding their stories and what they'd been through and you know they were really
Starting point is 01:00:13 appreciative of what i had done but i was kind of more so just like wow this is this is crazy i'm just really glad that i'm making an impact on their lives and you could tell that it just brought like a little bit of joy to them as well which is just as important so you never did you not do any nil stuff at all i mean that's i've i actually talked to a couple people who who felt the same way who yeah they were just like absolutely not it's just i just don't want to deal with it yeah and i and i mean i don't really know if i should say this but who cares you even at liwa there's been a few players that really perform their first year and then you know the the offers start coming and you know the messages start coming from people and then you start losing a little bit of focus on what's
Starting point is 01:00:58 really important and i think at the end of the day if you perform on the field all the stuff off the field takes care of itself yeah whereas if you it goes the other way if you worry about things off the field the stuff on the field usually goes a bit astray and that was really one thing that i was really focused on was just what can i do on the field and if you're good enough you make it eventually well it's interesting because especially the situation you came over in where coveted shut down your job you're just you know you're trying to trying to figure out what what you're trying to, trying to figure out what, what you're going to do with your life. And like, I would imagine that's a time you can concentrate pretty well and kind of see the main thing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It was
Starting point is 01:01:33 certainly a weird time when I first got over here, but I think NIL started in 2021. Yeah. Summer 2021. I reckon we start, start the first hearing about it, but I never really worried about it at all. And now you're here. Yeah. And what point did that seem real that, you know, you realized, oh, crap, I might be able to make an NFL team? Oh, probably the end of my first year. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:57 I'd always had a relatively big leg, but when you get over here and see other guys, you're kind of like, oh, I don't know. But it was probably the end of my first year and i remember coach woods having a conversation with me and he kind of said you really got what it takes it's just whether you want to do and i said well yeah of course i want to do it um so yeah he's really helped me a lot in terms of that as well all right i know there's been a lot of them but what what is probably your favorite punt of your career yeah like you said there's been a lot of them but in terms of a favorite punt um i'd probably be able to pinpoint
Starting point is 01:02:31 one i reckon back in 2021 when we played penn state and we downed it at the one um and everyone went absolutely crazy because it kind of helped us get back into the game and you know the crowd was that game i think we got like five or six false starts in a matter of a few plays so yeah that was certainly a fun game to be a part of and just to have some sort of impact was pretty cool too well and to go so go from that first year when nobody was in the stands of the big 10 to the second year when everybody's back yeah what's that first game with a full crowd like yeah it's a bit strange you know i'd never really worried about the crowd too much you know what i mean because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:03:05 they're not really my friends. Like they're not the ones playing. I was more so just focused on, well, what can I do? And the crowd was just there, there, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:13 there's nothing you can do about it. You can't tell them to leave. So I was never really too worried about that stuff, but you know, playing home games are always fun, but there's nothing more than, there's nothing better than winning on the road. And I loved playing away games just as much as i did home games probably even a little more
Starting point is 01:03:27 to just make everybody get quiet real quick yeah exactly that's it is amazing when you when the road team does something that just sucks the air out of the stadium and it's yeah yeah for sure it's funny i remember a few times against wisconsin this year i was fortunate enough to hit a couple of good punts and you could kind of tell us oh no you yeah you took the air out of that stadium yeah quick I remember watching that on TV so Tori this has been a lot of fun but I guess I I gotta ask what do you have to do now between between now and the draft to help yourself or I mean can you just say hey watch my tape or oh there's a bit of that and you know I've said that to a couple of teams. I said, all you got to do is just turn on the tape and, you know, the tape doesn't lie.
Starting point is 01:04:11 But at the end of the day, it's just being able to perform and showcase my talents and just show what I can do. And I think the biggest thing is there's still a lot for me to grow and improve on. And you're always going to be improving, not even just these next couple of months. It's going to be the next however many years I'm playing, which is hopefully a long time. Tori Taylor will not be that guy in the pub wondering if he could have done it. You'll be the guy. Exactly. You'll be the guy in the pub with everybody and your beers going.
Starting point is 01:04:37 You play for the Hawkeyes. You played the Super Bowl, man. Absolutely not. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, Tori. Absolutely appreciate it. How could you not love Torrey Taylor?
Starting point is 01:04:49 He is awesome. He is awesome, and obviously we'll be rooting for him as he goes on in the NFL. All right. Great show tonight. So much to talk about. We're going to have a big one tomorrow. Michael McCann from Sportico. He's a law professor.
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