Andy & Ari On3 - Alabama gets DRILLED by Oklahoma | Ohio State OUTLASTS Indiana | A WILD WEEK 13 in CFB

Episode Date: November 24, 2024

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Welcome to Annie and Ari on three your post game edition or during game edition as it were because Texas A&M and Auburn aren't finished yet. Why? Why let this incredibly crazy day of college football and of course USC and UCLA are still playing. You've got Colorado State and Fresno State going at it a game that will affect the Mountain West title race. Ari, this has been incredible all day. Can we just take the next hour for you to explain to me all the tiebreakers for all the conferences and who's going to be playing in the conference championship games because I think we need all 60 minutes for you to do that. I don't know. I don't even know my ass for my elbow right now, Andy. Like it's been, you know, and we're sitting here watching this Auburn Texas A&M game. And if Texas A&M wins, then they might get to play Texas

twice or I don't have any idea what's going on here. And doesn't Adam doesn't clinch a berth in the SEC championship game with a win. But A&M has a very good chance of playing in the SEC championship game, regardless of result next week. If they lose. Or if they win this game. They could lose, but... Payton Thorne currently running for his life, now gaining yards. I mean, it's just, this is, this is unbelievable. So, I'd love to tell you all the tiebreakers are, but first we need Auburn and Texas A&M to finish.

Okay. We can tell you a few of those. Uh, we can't talk about the mountain West ones yet because Colorado States playing right now, uh, the big 12 ones are insane. They're potentially could be four teams tied. And so there's four teams with two losses in big 12 play right now. If all of them lose next week, do you know who? Well, that's it's Arizona State.

It's Iowa State, it's Colorado, it's BYU. If all four of them lose next week, do you know who the conference title game might be between? Like, I have no idea. But you learned Texas Tech. I was going to say, I don't even know who's in the Big 12 anymore. Alabama lost 24-3 to Oklahoma tonight. 24-3!

Not a single person. I am sure there were some people who bet on Alabama. I'm sorry, who bet on Oklahoma to cover against Alabama. Oklahoma was like a 13.5 point underdog. I am sure there were some people who bet on Oklahoma to cover against Alabama. Oklahoma was like a 13 and a half point underdog. I am sure there were some people who bet on Oklahoma to cover against Alabama. I'm sure there are some people who bet the Oklahoma money line before this game.

I don't think any of them in their wildest dreams thought Oklahoma would win 24 to 3. Andy, I'm sure you've been seeing me on Twitter. I've been fired up today. Like, I don't know if you want to do this right now or if you want to wait till later. Well, Herb thinks you should do it right now. Herb says, Herb in the chat says the SEC is overrated AF. I guess he says SEC is mid. Change my. I don't think are you're going to change his mind. Okay, Andy. First of all, I don't even know if it's as big of a deal anymore because now it looks like the SEC kind of clearing itself out. that there might be a two bid league for the ACC. Indiana still seems like it can get in. Like what happened with the SEC today

kind of alleviates the thing that was frustrating. The thing that was frustrating to me coming into today was that we were all on our SEC high horse with the cluster of teams that were six and two, you know, propped up with wins against one another. And every single week that goes by, we get more context that the wins that are actually propping up these teams aren't that impressive to begin with, right? Like, Tennessee is going to go to the playoff this year more likely than not. And their best, most hallmark moment of the year was beating a nine and three team that just lost at Oklahoma 24 to three three. Like that, like is the best or second best or third best resume, a top three resume in the sec right now. And I just don't know how long we can go propping up teams with signature wins that we perceive as massive because of the brands of the

teams without acknowledging that the teams that they're beating aren't very good this year. So that's my thing. Can I ask a question though? Can the class guy ask a question? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Is Minnesota good? Because it sure as hell like Penn State, it looked like Penn State had a problem with them today. They did not lose. Okay. The games matter. The losses matter. The results matter. And if they don't, then why do, you know, like, I hate this, why do we even play the game crap? But like, it's like, why are we keeping score and records then if they don't matter? Like, I mean, at a certain point, the results of the games have to matter.

And that's what bothers me. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, Ari. I'm with you. If devil's advocate is college football team plays tough game and barely wins on the road. Like, that's like not insightful but you know what I mean like and I'm not saying it to you, but that's what everybody says and it's like teams play games all the time that aren't their most impressive outing and but winning and losing matters and They won and what I bet my life that Penn State would beat Georgia Absolutely not what I bet my life that Penn State or Indiana

would beat Tennessee? Absolutely not. That's not the point of it. Point of it is that we can't politic for a five or six bid league when there's been nothing in that league with the information that we do have, which is in the ledger, wins and losses, propping that up. And it's not going gonna happen anymore, thankfully.

But like, are you sure that beating Alabama at home by seven is the golden ticket that we thought it was a month ago? Like is- We're gonna find out, because Tennessee is probably gonna make the playoff now, because this opens up some spots. Yeah. It's like one of the bigger winners of today,

but they've lost two games at home to nine and three or two games this year to nine and three teams. And. I mean, like, are we okay with getting manhandled on the road by an Ole Miss team that's lost three times now? Like, I like Ole Miss is good. Like, three days ago, I thought Ole Miss had a chance to win the national championship. So I'm not trying to pretend like I'm some sort of like know it all that knows, like I know what talent looks like, you know who I am, I'm the stars matter guy. These teams have good players and if I had to bet money

or my thought would be like, would Ole Miss be the second or third best team in the big 10? I think that that's a rational thing to think. That I'm not saying that SEC fans are crazy for thinking that their conference is the best. Their conference has been the best for two decades. But my point is, is when you have a 12-team playoff, you can't just flood half of the playoff with teams in that conference unless there's merit to it. And I just don't see the merit right now. So I mean I don't think that's an

irrational thought. I don't think anybody's arguing but the thing is like you're gonna come in guns blazing on this you don't have to now. Nobody's gonna come in arguing that Alabama should make it. That's true that's what I'm saying like that's why I'm not even fired up about it because it kind of took care of itself. Now Memphis Perry says go damn big orange give Tennessee the respect it deserves and he paid $10 so I'm gonna say Memphis Perry thank you go damn big Orange, give Tennessee the respect it deserves, and he paid $10. So I'm gonna say, Memphis Perry, thank you for your $10. What a win against UTEP! Yes. We're giving you the respect you deserve. And like, you know, the thing that's crazy is,

is that like throughout the year, Andy, you've been on the show with me, I have had my weeks of falling in love with teams in the SEC. Like I fell in love with Ole Miss. I have been in and out of love with Tennessee. We're going to penalty kicks in Auburn. Is that what's next here?

Yeah, third OT, baby. I really want A&M to win, I'll admit it, Andy, because I just want that game to be awesome next week. That game's going to be awesome whether they win this game or lose this game, Ari. I know, but I want it to be awesome next week. That game's gonna be awesome whether they win this game or lose this game. I know, but I want it to be I want it to be as juiced up as college station could possibly be like I want it to be the if it's 1% worse if they lose today, I don't want it to be 1% worse. I want it to be

its absolute best. But yeah, so that's my thing like and we have some more clarity now and we have teams that are, you know, might get in. Like I do think that it's possible. I don't know that the Big 12 is a two league team. They can't even figure out who their champion is, but like if the choice is between the loser of the ACC Championship game and the sixth or fifth best team in the SEC,

like I might take the ACC champion now. like I don't know that I would have a Weakly the SEC champions going so you mean the runner-up the championship loser. Yeah, you get what I'm saying. So That was probably the the loser of the SMU Miami game present presuming they both win next week now That's still a big if after what we saw today But presuming they both win next week, the loser of the SMU Miami game might have been the biggest winner today. Tennessee probably was the biggest winner today. Yeah, I guess like at the end of the show or maybe now we could just like go through

the lists of winners or the biggest winners of the day. And I actually think funny enough that the biggest winner of the day is Indiana. No, I was about to say it and I was like, Should I say that when they got beat 38 to 15? But yes, but but yes, because this eliminates the argument of is there some two loss SEC team that should get in over 11 one Indiana long as long as Indiana beats Purdue, they're gonna get in now. Yeah, so like I think that like Indiana coming into today, um, was.

In a position where it had to prove itself, right? Like, and I, and I think that people wanted to see Indiana go toe to toe with Ohio state on the road. And I think they had like 150 yards of offense and they did not do that. Right. So if you think that that definitively proves that Indiana is not good enough to be in the playoff, like I think I understand the rationale behind that. Right.

Like there's no getting around it. They got their ass kicked. The thing that bugs me and the thing that I wrote about who some people think is stupid, but I thought it wasn't, is that if your bar for getting in or out is being as good as Ohio State a year after Kurt Signecki took over, that's just an unfair bar. Like there aren't a lot of teams, I think, in college football this year, especially half of the four SEC teams that we thought were going in that could do that. Like I don't know that I think Alabama would go into Ohio Stadium and, and win the game, you know, maybe they would have more than 150 yards of total offense, but that's, that's one game. And there's a lot of teams that have won games that they wish they could have back. So Indiana played in the Big 10. It's a 12-team field. The bar and the

litmus test of whether or not you're a playoff team in this era is not being Ohio State or not being as good as Ohio State. That's what the 12-team thing is. The bar for getting into the four-team field was being as good as Ohio State, but we changed the bar. So if we change the bar, then Indiana is the 10th or 11th best team in college football, and that's where they belong.

And that's what people want. And we go to the fourth overtime in Auburn. So we're doing like this, like two point conversion grab ass thing over here. And I'm trying to talk to you about a point. And I'm locked in over here. And I don't know what to do with myself. I don't know what to do with my hands, Andy. It's okay. It's okay. That's, that's the beauty of all this. Like, this is so amazing. I guess I can look. Indiana did not need to prove that it's better than Ohio State.

It has not gotten many chances to prove that it's better than a good team because it hasn't played a lot of good teams. But they've won all their games. So they're going to get a chance. And like, I just thank Florida and Oklahoma for making this possible. And like, and I don't know, and maybe I'm nuts. I just don't know when the protocol became more important than the results of the games.

The protocol is there. It's a post-apocalyptic. The second you had human beings picking who went where, which is always, so always. But when does, but protocol is what helps guide you when the record's on. I don't know how to break this to you. Everybody wants their team, their tribe to win. They want to believe that their thing is the best

and most powerful and greatest thing. So yes, SEC fans are going to continue arguing that three lost SEC teams are better than one lost Big 10 teams because that is human nature. Big 10 fans are going to argue that because Indiana has won 11 or well, they haven't won 11 yet, but if they beat Purdue, they won 11 games. That makes them better than an SEC team that only won nine. The real answer is I want to know until they play and guess what you're going to get to't know until they play. And guess what? You're going to get to see some of them play.

What's the question? Well, I want you to know, like, are you on team Ari here or do you think that Indiana is not good enough? No, they're going to get in. They're fine. They're fine. They're 11 and 1. Or they'll be 11 and 1.

I have no problem with Indiana getting in over a 9 and 3 Alabama.urn scores a two-point conversion now A&M gets a match. This is insanity. I mean if Texas A&M loses a game on like European soccer rules right now like I don't know what I'm gonna do. Is this European soccer? Is this what we're watching? Is this what they do? I mean it's essentially penalty kicks yeah. This is essentially penalty kicks. Was that Cam Coleman? I can't see it's essentially penalty kicks. Yeah. This is essentially penalty kicks. Was that Cam Coleman? I can't see it's on the iPad. It was not. It was. It was. It was. I believe it's Kay Andre Lamber Smith. I'm obsessed with Cam Coleman and I'm also obsessed with the fact that the three best receivers in college football are freshmen. Yeah. Cam Coleman had a good night tonight, but this is the Indiana thing. You don't have to worry about it now because Florida and Oklahoma took care of it for

you. Yeah. And then the good thing about that all of this, not just this argument, not just this year, even in the 14 playoff era, when we had these arguments, a lot of times the regular season would still take care of it for us. Like with some weird and last year it didn't with the Florida State thing. But this year and in past years, you've had these insane, oh boy,

A&M's gonna get cute. Oh, grab ass. Oh, they're going wild cat. Oh! They're going Philly special. Oh my God! He dropped it, it's over. Auburn wins.

Oh my God. And they're storming's over. Auburn wins. Oh, my God. And they're storming the field at Auburn, not prematurely like they did at Arizona State. Oh, my God. It was drawn up perfectly, just dropped it. Holy shit, that worked and he dropped it. So. Here are your scenarios.

For the SEC Championship game, are you ready? If Texas beats Texas A&M, your SEC Championship game. is Georgia, Texas. If Texas loses to Texas A&M, your SEC Championship game is Georgia, Texas A&M. Buddy, we got some stakes on this one, baby. Okay. So this actually worked out well for next week.

Well, yeah, this made it where there wasn't a scenario where A&M gets in because there was a scenario where if A&M won today. It made it a playoff game. Yes. If A&M had won this game, there was a scenario where if LSU beat Oklahoma, A&M could have still gotten in. Even if they lost to Texas. Now A&M cannot make the SEC Championship game

without beating Texas, and Texas cannot make the SEC Championship game without beating Texas A&M. We got a playoff game. So that actually, the thing I was afraid of all night was actually the opposite of what I wanted to have happen. You should have just been using the website. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, so that was like the most bitter, awful way for Alabama or for A&M to lose, but in fact changes nothing about their path. Oh, it changes it because there was a possibility they could have lost next week and gotten in. Now they have to win this week. I'm saying they still, they control their own destiny to win the SEC still. Yes. Yes.

Next week is going to be insane. It is going to be amazing. I honestly could not tell you the last time I was as excited to go watch a football game. I've never seen a game at Kyle Field. I've this is A&M in Texas after over a decade of waiting. And this is the epitome of what the sport's about. That's exactly right. Now, what's crazy is A&M can win that game and they still might not make the playoff, but Texas still might. Because A&M could take loss number four in the SEC championship game after beating Texas.

Yeah. Dude, that hit him right in the face. Oh, it could not. I legitimately think I would have caught that. Yeah. Dude, that hit him right in the face. Oh, it could not. I legitimately think I would have caught that. And I'm like not a very athletic person. Well do you think I would have caught that? You had some other good plays tonight. No, you definitely wouldn't have caught that.

It would have bounced off your face mask. Yeah. I definitely would have not. I would not have caught that. I can tell you right now. So I guess you freeze is employed next year. You freezes employed next year. The good tiebreaker site is back up. So let me double check my math. Auburn beat Texas A&M, Florida beat Ole Miss, LSU beat Vanderbilt, Missouri beat

Mississippi State, Oklahoma beat Alabama, and Texas beat Kentucky. So we will say that Texas beats Texas A&M next week. Calculate standings. 500 internal server error. The answer was going to be Texas versus Georgia. And if A&M wins, A&M versus Georgia. I think Georgia's in. Now we may have to wait until Tuesday afternoon from the SEC to announce that but we'll see I think the SEC will be a little More on the ball in the big ten in terms of announcing that so if George is actually in I think they'll tell us I

Am like I'm just like spinning up here man. Like I'm let's you want to try to get get on task here and like yeah, let's let's let's let's just talk about you back in. Let's draw you back in. Let's talk about. Well, let's talk about how Oklahoma beat Alabama because it wasn't that Oklahoma threw the ball all over the Crimson Tide. It was that they forced a ton of turnovers and ran the ball really well. threw the ball all over the Crimson Tide. It was that they forced a ton of turnovers and ran the ball really well. How about Jackson Arnold? How about our boy Jackson Arnold? Yeah, I mean, I guess there is hope for him to be good now.

All of a sudden, who would have seen that coming? Other than everybody who ranked him a five star, it it was pretty incredible. This is one of those, do you feel differently about Brent Venables after this game, games? And well, we'll get to Kaelin DeBoer in a second. I don't think that I was out on him to begin with. So I don't think that I changed much.

My thought about Brent Venables wasn't, he needs to get fired and they need to find somebody else. I think that this is a much needed shot in the arm for a team that's had a very tough year. I think that seeing your young quarterback that was supposed to be the future of your program excel in a game like this and perform pretty well in his first year and chop, but first year as a starter is very encouraging. And I think that the assignment for what needs to be done for Oklahoma in the offseason has, well, is unchanged by this, right? You need to go get an offensive line. You need to upgrade your roster, and you need to put yourself in a position to make your quarterback successful. So I don't know if this changes anything for you in terms of Jackson-Arnold and what the plan should be for Oklahoma in terms of who they're building around.

But if you go back and you remember what it was like during our video when we saw them lose to Texas in Dallas together, you know, there was a lot of discussion about how it would be confusing to make this big, this big decision about the quarterback. And if there isn't enough tape on Jackson Arnold, then how do you get to the point where you feel like you're comfortable with that?

And I think that we are getting into the space here where it seems pretty evident to me that they have their quarterback. Has he been great this year? Has he had, no, I mean, has he turned the ball over a lot? Yeah, he has, but at the same time, he hasn't been in college very long and they gave up on him so fast. And I just thought it was bizarre when it happened. I got into

a lot of hot water when it did. And I just, he's too talented to give up on that soon. So put an offensive line around him, maybe get him a receiver that can, I mean, because Oklahoma's receivers are out all year. I mean, they don't, they don't have, they don't have talent around him. I think if you do that, you have a pretty good recipe for winning games in this conference, especially now that, you know, I don't know that we're all that certain about the futures of some of the teams that we were usually certain of. It is going to be really interesting to see who they hire as the OC because that person. We're in a new era. Ari that person may bring their own quarterback or they may say I want to build around Jackson Arnold.

Or Brett Venomals may say I'm only hiring someone who will build around Jackson. Or like we don't know right now. All of that is going to get answered in the next couple of weeks. Because remember that the portal opens the day after the playoff bracket gets revealed. So that Monday there's championship Saturday, playoff back reveal Sunday, portal opens. We'll learn a lot. We'll probably know the identity of Oklahoma's

new offensive coordinator before that because they probably want to have that person in place before National Signing Day, which is a week from Wednesday. This is going to be wild. This is going to be like this next few this next two and a half weeks is going to be insane. All right, other side of that game. few this next two and a half weeks is going to be insane. Alright, other side of that game. Kailin D'Avore is now lost three games in his first season in Alabama. Two of those losses are like nothing you would have

ever seen from index saving team, nothing. Yeah, so do I feel differently about Kailin D'Avore now than I did earlier in the year? Is that what the question is? How do you feel about Kalen to bore was the question is very open ended. I think that it was going to be a tough year no matter what. And when you don't replace the legend, and it just be OK, like I think that that was like this assumption that you know,

Kaylin DeBoer led a team to a national title the year before that Alabama had a very talented and explosive roster and that things were just going to be like business as usual. That's clearly not the case. Nick Saban is not the coach anymore. And it's just evident that Alabama just is not as explosive on both sides of the ball as it's been in the case. Nick Saban is not the coach anymore. And it's just evident that Alabama just is not as explosive on both sides of the ball as it's been in the past. And you go through an entire four quarter game and it felt like every single thing they were doing offensively was a struggle. You know, even Jalen Milrow, it's like somebody texted me in the middle of the game, what does Jalen Milrow do good definitively? You know,

and it's just like, do you answer the question? He's a good scrambler and is explosive. Like, I don't know. Like, what do you even respond to that? Well, the answer is it depends on which game you're watching. Cause there are some games where he looks magic. And then there's games like today where nothing works. What's the one thing that you can take out of Jalen Milro's playbook and know that

you're going to have excellent production at an end game? He's going to be able to run the ball. Yeah. So, you know, that is, uh, you know, a kind of a tough situation. So, you know, in terms of a coach that you hired in 36 hours after your legendary coach goes, I think you had to understand and expect that we're going to be some growing pains. And you have to trust that he'll be able to recruit his way out of this.

And that's the reality of it. So if they don't. Do that, then he's not going to be there very long. Alabama doesn't stand for this. This isn't what Alabama is or what it's become accustomed to. And I can't imagine that there are a lot of Alabama fans that are going to be going to bed tonight, feeling pretty good about the way things have been going. Like they, they didn't score touchdown in this game on the road against a team that literally couldn't block anybody all year.

Like, I mean, it was a bad loss. I was, I would venture to say this was the worst loss of your year. This is the worst Alabama loss in since Louisiana Monroe. This is that I think years ago, it was 2007. I don't know. I'm not good at math, but it was a long time ago. 18. I just buzzed it.

Okay. Actually 17. It's not good at math, but it was a long time ago. 18. I just buzzed it. Okay, actually 17. It's not 18. Yeah. All right. Bad at math podcast. Sailor Joe has a question for us and I do think we should break this down before before we start breaking down more games. We should break this down. Which SEC teams would you consider to still be on the

Playoff bubble with tonight's upsets? So George is in because they're playing the SEC Championship be on the playoff bubble with tonight's upsets. So. George is in because they're playing the SEC Championship game. Well. Is Georgia in if they lose the SEC Championship game? Because they would have three losses. Is there a scenario to you where only one SEC team makes it? Let's just say Texas wins their next two games like it's a one bid league? No.

So then how would it be possible for them not to make it? That's true. They're probably in over Tennessee still. But Tennessee's probably in at this point, we think. Unless you reward the loser of the SEC championship game, even if they have more losses. But I don't know if that's what you do, especially if it's A&M.

Right. Texas feels pretty safe unless they it's A&M. Right, Texas feels pretty safe unless they lose to A&M. That's, if Texas loses to A&M, they'll only be a two-loss team, but the who have you beaten game is not kind to them. If they win and they go to the SEC Championship game, I think they're in regardless, whether they win or not.

I think that if Texas, if Indiana is into is. Unquestionably in now, I don't know that Texas loses the Who have you beaten game to anybody because we're still only a two lost team. Like that's OK, that's interesting. I think like Texas kind of has some breathing room now and I feel

like Texas was kind of on high alert for team I think if you were a Texas fan, you were rooting for Indiana to lose this morning because you don't want to get into debates with teams with better records that haven't also beat anybody. But now that the situation is all cleared out, it's like, Alabama is out definitively, right? Like there's no way Alabama is getting in. They're out. Tennessee is definitively in probably Georgia. They got to beat Vanderbilt. Tennessee loses to Vanderbilt, they're out.

At the moment, I'm just going by at the moment. Tennessee would be in. I think Tennessee is definitively in and Georgia is definitively in and Texas would be definitively in at the moment. And those are the only three. So that would leave the remainder. I think Ole Miss is out, right? Yeah, I think they're out. Alabama is out. South Carolina is out, even though they've been playing really well. And now you're left with A&M as a bubble team, but they probably can't be a bubble team because they either win their way in by winning the SEC or they're out.

Right, they have to play, they have to go 2-0 the next two weeks. They have to beat Texas and then beat Georgia in the SEC Championship game and then they would be in and then in the SEC champ and they'd be a top four seed. And I so I think what you're looking at here, Andy is that the SEC is a three bid league right now. And I don't know how they get to four in the three bids that they have. Instead of four now open up a secondary spot for a team like the loser of the ACC title game potentially. Right. Yes.

And I think the four Big 10 teams are definitively in right now. I think Ohio State and Oregon both clinched the playoff today. And I think that Penn State with a win next week will be in no matter what, and then Indiana will be safe. So that would be the four Big 10 teams. You'll have those three SEC teams in whatever order it turns out to be and then you have five spots left over for Boise, the Big 12 and the ACC. And like that's that's the whole picture right there. And I haven't done Bubble Watch. I'm not sure if you've started Bracketology yet, but I've started it. But I and I've got I will tell you Boise State's gonna be four they're gonna be the four seed in my practice news for you pal Boise ain't in yet well no they're not watching around no they're there they're

not in but right now if you keep winning they're gonna be the four seed but I watched the game has no game like Ashton Gentile was was hurt. They really I mean struggled with Wyoming in this game. So he only is bad this year. Yeah, Wyoming is not good. So if Ashton Gentile is now Ashton Gentile still put up great numbers, but he was hurt at the end of the game. If he's limited, there is a chance that they lose and then you and LV fans are sitting

in front of their TV right now, watching Fresno State being in Colorado State 14 to 7 in the second quarter. Yeah, if we lose this today, then you and LV is going to Boise and that ain't and you and LV is playing well so like Boise not playing that well with you and I mean yeah,

they played a five point game in the first meeting. I do think that you putting them in at the four is interesting because I'm not even sure those the team that's going to get in from the G5. So that's that's going to be. But if they if they go 12 and one, they're going to be the four. They're going to be ranked ahead of the big 12 champ. I'm telling you right now.

Yeah, well, I need you to help me with the big 12 race because I have to do bubble watch and I don't even know who's playing in the game next week. Is there on the state for sure playing in it? Nope, not for sure. Is state for sure playing in it? Nope, not for sure. Is anybody for sure playing in it? Nope. Nope, it is exactly what you wanted out of the big 12. All right, let's talk about BYU

and Arizona state right now. We had a premature field storming. Kenny Dillingham went berserk when he was told they were gonna have to put time back on the clock. I don't know why he was so surprised. Sam Levitt throws the ball with like four seconds left. It didn't hang in the air for four seconds. Like why was Kenny Dillingham surprised the clock didn't hit zero? Yeah. Yeah. That was like what a 15 minute delay there at the end

with like three seconds left. We were on the field for premature storming at Ole Miss, the Ole Miss Georgia game. And it was much more orderly. Anybody cleared the field as well as Kam Scadaboo did there at the end. You see him. He's like a bouncer. It was awesome. Yeah, he does everything. Do a quick aside. Yes.

Can you explain to me, anybody in plain English, why Arizona State doesn't wear these uniforms every week? I can't. The Sparky helmet is the best. I mean, Sparky logo is the best. So clean. And I'll be honest, as an Arizona grad, I was jealous of their color scheme my entire college

career. I think the maroon and gold is beautiful. Yeah, why Sparky ever left the helmet? I will never know. Why is Sparky not at midfield? Like is it like some sort of insensitive like 2023? Like we can't have a devil as a mascot thing. I don't understand what's going on here. Put it on the field. Duke's got a devil as a mascot doesn't seem bother them. So yeah, yeah, the pitchf thing is just not not not not doing it for me. But yeah, no, can't Kenny

Dillingham has his team playing really well. And it got dicey there because Arizona State, I think, jumped out to a 21 nothing lead in this game. And we're in a, you know, I guess the Jake Retzlaff pass was four yards further, they might have actually lost in the most awful way. Has anybody in that you can remember lost after a premature field storming? Yes. LSU or Kentucky to LSU. When Nick Saban was coaching there, I believe 2003. Maybe 2001. It was it was yeah, it happened, but it was.

Arizona State is the hottest team in the big 12 now, Colorado lost to Kansas. Well, Kansas is probably the hottest team in the big 12, but they are out of the title race. They just, but they spoiled it for Colorado, which loses most of the tiebreakers. Tubby doesn't have to run 3.1 miles. Nope, you sure don't. Yeah, I owe you a box of baseball card or uh excuse me lots of Panini football cards.

I've got the uh Donner's Elite 2024 box that goes to Ari. By the way, we are sponsored by Panini, the greatest maker of sports cards in the world. Visit Panini, Paniniamerica.net to collect all your favorite college and NFL stars. They've got NIL cards. They got DJ Lagway, Arch Manning. Grab yourself a box and start ripping some packs. PaniniAmerica.net, I-O-R-E. This box.

I also have to pay $20 to the Rebuild Ryan Field Fund at Northwestern. So I- It's not about the money either. People are like, why are you only doing 20 bucks? I don't care if it was a dollar. I just want your money in that pot. Yeah. Into the $850 million pot.

Yes. Yes. Colorado lost to Kansas could not tackle Devin Neal. No one can tackle Devin Neal right now. It was Kansas has figured everything out. Now, Colorado Andy, I was gonna say, I thought when Colorado scored at the beginning of the third quarter, we were gonna have a game and then Kansas shut that down quick. Yeah. Well, the thing here was that Colorado just could not stop them. Point blank period. Devin Neal was playing out of his mind and every single time I looked up at the iPad, he was running down the sideline and I think that I read a stat somewhere that Kansas

ran for more yards in the first half tonight than Colorado has given up in any game all year like it was just a complete shredding and I think it just goes to show you too that like the Big 12 has been so weird all year that you know kind of like this spot was dangerous for Colorado because you don't just make it through the big 12 unless you're up and away the best team without any weirdness happening and Kansas is playing so good like if you if you started the season three weeks ago Kansas would be like a top 15 team in America right now this is Kansas offense we expected to see all season this is yeah this is the one if you're playing the video game preseason and fell in love. This is what you want with Devin Neil and Jalen Daniels. Like this is what you thought you'd see in real life and this was the video game in real life today. Yeah and it has been for the last three weeks which is why we even made the bet to begin with and you know the thing that stinks about Colorado fans is that they're so transient right now because a

lot of them are just Deon fans and they are so loud in our chat when they're winning and they are just completely absent when they lose. And that's, and that's tough because I actually feel like real Colorado fans, people who have been there for a long time, who have had a very successful, you know, had a successful season and I feel good for them. And it's a shame that Colorado didn't get it done because it's been such an awesome story. But at the same time too, you know, there's no shortcuts in this game and Dion cut the line pretty far. You know what I mean?

Like he did as much as you could possibly do in a two-year period and he gets my flowers for that. But making the playoff and winning every game that they needed to win in the Big 12 or any other conference for that matter is a really difficult thing to do. So, you know, I don't know if that changes anything about who I'm gonna vote for the Heisman or how I view Deon.

I don't think there was any deep thought about this from me. I don't think it changed my mind on Travis Hunter being the best player in the country. He's still pretty freaking awesome today. But like I wrote a column, you know, 10 days ago saying I was wrong about Dion. I don't feel like I regret having written. Now, you know, this is still a great year for Colorado, given what he took over. Yeah. You know, going to the playoff would have been amazing

to have that story in that field. But, you know, at the same time, too, any rational person who understands how this sport works is blown away by the build. And I am blown away by the build. That doesn't change. I think they've had a really, really good two year run. In fact, Andy, I'm very encouraged by the notion

that he's gonna be there for a while. I'm very encouraged by the Julian Lewis flip and what he's gonna do. And I hope that in three years when you and I are live at 11 o'clock Central time, you know, in November that we're talking about a Deon team. And I think that's within the realm of possibility or frankly, if he keeps us up, probably at the probability. So, you know, congratulations to Colorado for a really good year. And if you are a Colorado fan who is in here in loud when they're winning and are here listening now when they're losing, congratulations to you for having a program and a product that you can be proud of,

independent of just Deion Sanders. It's a fun program to watch and I can't wait to see where they go. Radically Optimistic asks, can Colorado still make the conference title game. They lose most of the tiebreakers. I gotta check that that I gotta get back on the website and figure out if there are any scenarios where they can. Iowa State beating Utah closed a lot of things down. That game was very close.

Utah missed a field goal right at the end that would have sent it over time. But that closed a lot of stuff down. that game was very close. Utah missed a field goal right at the end that would have sent it over time, but that closed a lot of stuff down. A lot of a lot depends on the Kansas State Utah game. I'm sorry, the Kansas State Iowa State game. Farmageddon next week and then of course you have Arizona State playing Arizona.

You've got Houston and BYU, but it most of the scenarios are Arizona State BYU or Arizona State and Iowa State. So we will- Yeah, Arizona State is basically in. They just can't have BYU lose to Houston, right? Like that's the only, I think that's the only way they're not.

I believe that's it. I believe that's it. So- But then again, this is a Bad at Math podcast, and Andy and I don't have our Texas Instrument graphing calculators to figure this out right now. Well, the website's been crashing all night because everybody's freaking out and going and going to the website.

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You know, I was telling everybody before this, but my dad looked at me in the eyes when I was a kid and he said, Son, you can be anything you want to be. You just got to put your mind to it and work hard. And I said, I want to eat Wendy's on camera. I made it. Here I am. So I'm going to just get started. I'm going to grab some garlic parm. So you okay. I like the garlic parm is a very like full savory. The other like the the honey barbecue's got your sweet. Like this is your ultimate savory here. Buttery and savory.

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Which one was this one? It's a little bit hotter Parmesan garlic. Oh, this is spicy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's pretty damn good. See this I keep changing my favorite and I think that's the point of this exercise. Yes, that's my favorite one I can put down 32 ounces of coke zero and be like it will not where's the next 30? Yeah Well, and yeah, hey free refills In the restaurant so Wendy's new saucy nugs take the crispy and spicy nugs you love Yeah, they will. Well, and hey, we're pre-refills in the restaurant. So, Wendy's new

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I went to the swamp to watch Florida Will Miss. I saw Florida beat LSU last week and thought, okay, maybe if DJ Lagway is, is a little bit healthier, a little more mobile, they can possibly give Ole Miss a game. I did not expect this. I did not expect Florida to shut down Ole Miss's offense in the fourth quarter. And DJ Lagway was much more mobile than I thought he was going to be. Was completing passes with Ole Miss defenders draped on him. Florida wins Ole Miss is out. You know, as, cause this is going on as we're watching Ohio state beat Indiana

and everybody who's like, Oh, well if Indiana gets blown out by Ohio state, then how are they going to compete with these two loss sec teams? All of a sudden two loss sec, one two loss lost SEC team was gone because Ole Miss is gone. But the other weird part, and I wrote this in a column, I said, imagine, I had told a Florida fan, after they lost to Texas A&M, I said, you know, Lane Kiffin is going to show up to the swamp in a blue sport coat and sunglasses. And a few hours later, the Florida coach is going to give a press conference and everybody's going to be pumped up about Florida in 2025. The person in September would have been like, Oh, is that Lane's introductory press conference

in December as the new Florida coach? No, that was Billy Napier's press conference today after beating Lane Kiffin. Yeah, so I feel like a big idiot. So, you know, I don't know. So it's like, hey, what do you mean, how so? I sat here in the seat three days ago and told people of the best ticket for the SEC to win the national title. This year was Ole Miss and they go out in Florida and lose. You know, I don't. But that roster could win the national title this year was Ole Miss and they go out in Florida and lose. You know, I don't but that roster could win a national title but it also can lose to Kentucky

in Florida. That was just a bad look for me and I'm just gonna have to wear it Andy like and I appreciate you being a good partner here and trying to normalize the pick but you know shit man like come on. Well somebody that that says, Zach says, I don't even need to make funny RE for his Ole Miss pick. Everybody picked Ole Miss. They were a double digit favorite. I didn't just pick Ole Miss to win this game, Andy. I said, if I had to bet on an SECT to win the natural,

I'd play the loud drink Ole Miss. So, and I'm okay to wear it. It was a bad play on my part. And sorry about that guys. But at the same time, what the hell was that? Like honestly, what the hell was that? Like what are we doing here? Like Ole Miss is much better than that, whatever that was. Florida's a lot better than it was. And when DJ Lague is starting, Florida's a lot better still than that. So Florida can compete with your fringe playoff teams now.

They have improved that much, which I have never seen a team do this. Like never once have I seen a coach who started the season on the hot seat, had a disastrous early season, like turn it all around. And suddenly you are pumped about what he's gonna be the next year.

Like that never happens. You'll see coaches who start the season on the hot seat and then they have a good full year like Neil Brown last year started on the hot seat, won nine games, kept his job. Billy Napier was done in late September. He was done. The big money people were out. Everybody was out. The AD was preparing for coaching search. He was done. They never quit playing for him. It got better. He had to start freshman at QB. Turns out the freshmen at QB is spectacular. And now here they are wondering instead of who's the new coach gonna be, what recruits are they gonna flip

between now and National Signing Day, and then who are they gonna get out of the portal because everybody's gonna wanna come play with DJ Lagway. You know, I feel like too, yeah, like you can go into the off season and be excited, but we're gonna know very soon after the portal opens, whether we're on track here. You know what I mean?

Like if money is used the right way and they get the right players in with DJ, they protect him, they get him a weapon or two. Those young running backs are so good. Like they have the pieces, I think, to put together a really good team. The thing that is difficult for me with Florida is that as we get more context of what the SEC is this year, the fall to where they were and where they had to

climb back from becomes more inexcusable to me. So the good news is, is that we knew what was ailing Florida at the beginning of the year, which was they didn't do a good enough job in acquiring talent and situating this roster to compete at this level. But then on the other hand, you've seen a team fight for their coach. You've seen the emergence of a five-star quarterback

that Billy Napier took from Texas, and that guy's a star, and you can see the building blocks for the following year in a way in which you couldn't see them when we were in the swamp in September. So that to me is exciting, but on the other hand, it's like there's no reason why in year three it should have come to this when their schedule was daunting more so in logo in Maine than it actually was in

terms of production and who they played. Like losing five games is is just a tough look at Florida this far into a coaching tenure. Like there's no like I know everyone's feeling good right now. I'm not trying to Oh, but we said at the beginning of the season if he went seven and five, he's probably keeping his job. guess what he's probably gonna go seven and five Yeah, yeah, no, and that's a hell of a way to to close out the year There's no question, and I think that it's good for optimism

But the thing that absolutely has to happen Andy and you know this better than me is That the things that he failed at which was bringing really good players in to improve the roster simply cannot happen again. So I think that he's definitively proven that he can get a team to play for him and love him. And I think that's a, that's a big piece. Yeah. Now you need that saying you need to do what Ole Miss did. And what does a coach in 2024 in charge of more than anything, getting the

roster to a place where it needs to be. So I think that when you have young pieces, that makes it easier to go into one off season, but you gotta help those young pieces now. Now I also wrote a column saying this Ole Miss season was a failure. The process wasn't a failure. They did exactly what they should do

and they should try to do that again next year. But it was a failure. You had the roster to make the playoff. It's inexcusable that they lost to Kentucky and to Florida. Like that just should never have happened. The LSU game is probably inexcusable too. You only had to win one of those and you lost all three. Well, here's the thought that I had about Ole Miss

because I saw what you wrote. Ole Miss did what it did, I think, in large part, because it looked at the schedule and it didn't see Alabama. It saw two games at LSU and against Georgia that were really daunting, and they did what they could because of the window, right? But in a world where the SEC is what it is right now, I don't know that you need to play the window

game anymore. I think it's as simple as every year is your window if you're a team that's on the verge of doing something and you can do something special. The thing that sucks for Ole Miss is that they actually succeeded in putting together the roster, and they had more than an advantageous path to 10 and two this year. And it looked like they were finally gonna do it, and then they didn't do it. And that to me is the failure.

It's not what they did, it's how they failed after being successful in what they did to do the thing that only matters, which is win the games. You know, like, and that is this time, you know, last year at this time or, you know, 54 weeks ago when Ole Miss got its ass kicked against Georgia and someone asked Lane Kiffin in the press conference

after the game, what needs to change for Ole Miss to compete in these games? He rightfully said they have to acquire talent better because they weren't in the same galaxy from a talent perspective. A year later, they beat the crap out of Georgia at home. So what is the only thing left to point to? I guess you could say Trey Harris's injury to a certain extent, but coaching. Like that's the only thing left because they did have the pieces this year and it still wasn't enough. And that's got to be the most frustrating thing at all for Ole Miss because they really did do the pieces this year, then it still wasn't enough. And that's gotta be the most frustrating thing

at all for Ole Miss because they really did do the exact right thing you need to do to do it and their coaching failed them. Especially because they lost. Yeah. Josh asked the question, is Notre Dame hosting a playoff game? Let's talk about Notre Dame.

Because the Notre Dame Army game was really similar to the Notre Dame Navy game where service Kennedy comes in undefeated Notre Dame just annihilates them and this was you know we we didn't get a lot right this week. We did predict this one correctly. We you know Notre Dame was gonna lean on them. They're gonna out talent them. If there were mistakes, it was going to doom army quickly. That's exactly what happened. So there was a play and it was a non important play in this game.

And I was watching all of them at the same time. So, you know, keep up here. But Bryson Daly pulled the ball. And, you know, his pitch man was wide open, or like he had he had a ton of field, right. Right. Right. And Bryson Daley made the right read. He pulled the ball, he ran to the edge and he pitched the ball to a running back who looked like he had open field.

And if they were playing an AAC team, that might've been a 25 or 30 yard game. And this was in the second quarter, but then Notre Dame's linebacker who was out of position and five yards away from where he needed to be ran ran the running back down and tackled him for a two-yard gain. And that right there is all you need to know about that football game. Because even if Army does the right thing, physically they make the right read, they execute perfectly, you cannot overcome the simple fact that Notre Dame is bigger, stronger and faster. And that's why they run the option to begin with to try to fool teams like this into wins. And Notre Dame is a legitimate playoff team that wasn't going to be fooled has had some reps in a semi similar,

you know, offense. That to me is it. That's all you really need to know. Like there are certain plays that stick out to me. That's like a beautiful mind thing. I don't know. Like I don't know. But like the play that stuck out to me in the Ohio State, Indiana game was the Caleb Downs punt return. It's like that guy wasn't even sprinting. For me it was every time Curtis Rourke dropped back to pass and three Buckeyes hit him. Yeah. But there are certain plays that I think signify the entire game and that was just a non important play that probably most people watching were like, yeah, whatever was the two yard game.

No, but that definitely sums it up. You're exactly right. That is a play that would be very successful against American conference competition and it didn't work against Notre Dame. And Notre Dame, okay, so to answer Josh's question about will Notre Dame host a playoff game? So I think you're gonna have to be ranked six or higher in the committee rankings because you're gonna have two

lower ranked teams that jump up above and grab the auto bids and grab those top four seeds. So I think you're gonna have to finish number six. Do we think they will based on what we see? Cause I don't think Penn State's gonna drop that much. Indiana will drop. They're not going above Ohio State. So where do we got to going to

land in the rankings? So Notre Dame was already six last week in Indiana is going to fall. I think that you can. They're going to move up one. They're going to move up at least one. And then of course you have.

You know, the Ohio State Oregon game coming up potentially that could knock Ohio State to six and Notre Dame up into five if Ohio State were to lose. But you know, it's funny because the NIU loss like was a season defining loss. But when you kind of look at everything that's gone on in the sports since that happened, it's almost like, okay, that's it's old news now Notre Dame is one what is that nine in a row now or eight in a row? I think it's a nine

Yeah, so this was game 11. So they I think you're I think you're right. I think they're you're to five I don't think they'll go above Penn State because Penn State lost to Ohio State and Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois. So I do think they'll be five, which should make them safe as long as they beat USC. They should be feeling comfortable because that gives them one spot wiggle room if something weird happens and they have to drop. And the thing with Notre Dame is if you're not gonna play in a conference, you sign up for that understanding and knowing that your margin for error

is less than everybody else's, especially considering the fact that you'll never play in a conference championship game. So like for me, they are the beneficiary of some chaos this year. And like just simply making it after losing that game is enough. Like I don't care where it is.

Like I don't think they have any benefit of like hosting a home game too. Because even if they're but even if they don't it's like that's that's on you. Like they they yeah, but that's the best they can do because they can't get a buy. The best they can do is host a home game. So yeah, I mean it would be better to be five to the to be the five seed but they're probably not. Well, the question is, is can they play their way into the five seed because that's all that really matters here I don't think so because I think I think Ohio State is bound for that if they lose or organs bound for that if they Lose well, I got news for you and I don't know we haven't talked it. We talked about Indiana, but

Ohio State's gonna be my one seed tomorrow. Oh, oh you're gonna predict they can beat organ. That's fine They only lost to organ by one on the road, so I don't think that's outrageous. I've been kind of wanting to do this for a month. So, um, but then the Nebraska game happened and the offensive line injury happened. But like, I've been talking about Ohio State being the last of the super team, and I think they're a super team. So in that vein, I think it's really hard to beat the same team twice. And I think that Oregon is actually gonna benefit from losing to Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship game

by achieving an easier path and falling to the five seed. Like that's how I think it's gonna pet. Yeah. I can see that. I don't think that's outrageous at all. Ohio State gives up the touchdown drive to Indiana at the beginning, gets stuffed near the goal line. You're thinking, Oh man, what's

gonna happen here? This is gonna be a game. And then from that point forward, it was just Ohio State demonstrating its superior talent over and over and over and over again. And yes, a game against Oregon again, this time in a neutral site. There's no reason to think it won't be a close game, a good game. And there's certainly no reason to think that Ohio state wouldn't win it. Yeah. reason to think that Ohio State. Wouldn't win it. Yeah, I mean, I think we there's like with what Indiana had at stake going into that game, Andy, like obviously the

reaction and even when I wrote was going to be about what that means for Indiana and whether it's. You know, fair or whatever to, you know, drop Indiana out of the playoff as a result of what happened there, but I think that also makes you lose focus on what Ohio State is this year. And that is a team that has 25 NFL draft picks playing in games. And whether they be in the starting lineup or in rotation, they are literally the most talented team in college football.

And if they're playing well, that's literally what's supposed to happen. So I don't know that I learned anything about, I learned nothing other than Ohio State is really, really good. Let's address Need a Beat in the chat who's trying to well actually us. Andy and Ari, y'all forget the CFP agreed to Notre Dame getting the five seed in the home field advantage. So, none of you mentioned that. Notre Dame's athletic director participated in the creation of this format. We talk about it all the time. We were just explaining what the deal is. The best Notre Dame can do is host a home game. The five seat is the best they

can be. What was the well actually that we said that was I don't even know what you're talking like what she's talking about. I I have no idea like no idea. Like everybody's so confused about like people just don't get the Notre Dame thing. There was a comment in the chat earlier that said well Notre Dame can't be the five seed because the five highest ranked champs get the top five seeds. No, the four highest ranked conference champs get the top four seeds. The five highest ranked conference champs get in but the fifth highest ranked conference champ the five highest ranked conference champs get in. But the fifth highest ranked conference champ

could be number 12, could be number nine, could be number eight. They don't get a buy. They don't get artificially moved up unless they're below 12 and they get moved up to 12. So again, huge awareness gap as to how all this works. The good thing about Ohio State is they just have to keep winning and they'll be the one seat.

Yeah. Yeah, so I thought that like Indiana unfortunately didn't play as well as I thought they could have and I think Ohio State is really, really good. But of all the things that happened on Saturday, I thought that this was the least revealing game like I just like that. okay. I go into the following week kind of Feeling like I did already Yeah, I Laid the 10 don't forget like I I know I laid the 11 so I know we listen

I thought I need to replay himself from that. I was feeling very confident after the first series and then it just fell apart. But that's what you want with Ohio State. That's, so we talked about Ole Miss, and their season being a failure, because they spent all the money on this roster and it didn't get them to the playoff. Ohio State is still very much on track

to get everything that they paid for. Yep. You know, and it was nice to see their pass rush show up when they needed it. I think that there are still some concern about the secondary because I did think that Indiana, you know, has some chances to hit some deep shots there that didn't come to line. Oh, line played well, and I thought pretty well. I do think that the most funny. Take away from this game is that Ohio State got its second top five win in what three weeks and Ohio State fans won't count this. This isn't something that like changes their view I think of Ryan Day even though maybe

it should. They still have to like it's Michigan Week Andy like and I know that it just you know we're looking past that because Michigan hasn't been very good, but Ohio State's offensive line combined with Michigan's defense and defensive line and the fact that they just dropped 50, I know if they're playing really well, I don't wanna look past that

because when it's a mental thing and people tighten up and Ohio State's just not been in the best place against this program like it's a rivalry you're the one who says November brings weirdness like I don't know we have to give it its due time this week. We should okay we should we definitely will I think Ohio State is going to win it, but I will give it everybody does. But we will give it a proper respect. Yes, I agree. I'm with you because I was in this 1010 at halftime, Andy. I'm not shocked by that. Yeah.

Joshua in the chat asks, what is the website to see what needs to happen for a team to make their conference championship game? So at the risk of helping crash it more, I feel bad for these folks because they've been crashing all night. It's bball.notnothing.net and you go to football and there's power for and you can pick you pick the ACC big 10, big 12 or SEC and you basically say what you think is going to happen in each game and it will tell you what that looks like. it will tell you what. That looks like it will tell you who would play for the conference championship if all of those results happen.

And it's very, very handy. And it tells you why it tells you what tiebreaker each team would win. And in a lot of cases, you're getting the tiebreaker of best cumulative conference record. Of your conference opponents, so essentially who played the toughest conference schedule? That's where Georgia is is getting most of its tiebreak wins now in the SEC. That's why they're in.

Hey, some score updates Andy you and LV is sitting pretty right now because Fresno States beating Colorado State 287 at halftime and USC is beating UCLA early in the third quarter nine to three. Those are the things that are going on right now. But the Colorado State Fresno game has a huge implication potentially on who makes it the G five. So pay attention to that if you're so-

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So Ryan Williams, I went for more than 23 1⁄2, longest reception, got that. Omar Cooper did not have a good day for Indiana. So I did not get anything there. Kam Skadebo, I wanted him to catch some passes for a lot of yards. He did not. And then Will Howard, I had more than 13 and a half rush yards.

We talked about that all week and said, with the offensive line changes, probably gonna need some Will Howard with his feet. He actually did run for more than that, but then you back out sacks and he did not. So not my day are another L for me too, Andy, because that was my number one favorite price picks play of the week.

Yeah, well, Howard more than 13 and a half rushing yards and he had it in like the first quarter and I was like alright and then just they kept back he kept and they didn't have to run him very much. The rest of the game. It was a lot more of Judkins and Trevion Henderson.

So it happens. It happens. If it had been a closer game, you would have probably seen Will Howard have to take off more, but it is what it is. I'm gonna throw some prize picks plays out on Sunday during the NFL game. So I'm gonna get back. I got faith. I got faith.

Yeah, the only gambler that loses is the one that stops. So let's go. All right. Let's go to Austin, Texas, where it was close for a minute between Kentucky and Texas. But then the Longhorns mostly pulled away. But This is what you expected. You know, Texas the week before the Texas A&M game. They were not as sharp as they were when they destroyed Florida a few weeks ago. They did not struggle as much as they did against Arkansas last week. They were better. Now they're going into the game against the Aggies. If they win, they're in

the SEC Championship. If they lose, they're out, but they still might not be out of the playoff. Does that sound about right? I think that sounds about right. I think it is amusing to me that we came into the weekend talking about how Texas hasn't played anybody yet and how a loss to A&M would have them out of the playoff potentially, or at least in a discussion that would make them uncomfortable, to becoming the SEC's banner carrier. If Texas beats A&M and goes to the SEC Championship game as a one-loss team and wins the SEC champion, if it is Texas, at least emerges from that conference as a double-digit, one-loss team and a legit SEC champ.

Like, this is a big 12-team last year that everybody said couldn't handle the grind of the SEC schedule, and I think that Texas has probably handled it quite well, although they haven't played the grindiest games. So we'll see. The question that I have for you, Andy, is does going on the road and beating Texas A&M, even if it's by a point, change your perspective on this Longhorns team? Because I think we both were kind of on the same page of like, yeah, they're probably not going to win the SEC. It helps because you know that

that environment's going to be crazy. Texas A&M is good. They may not be making the playoff, but they also, I mean, shoot, if they beat Texas and then beat Georgia, they would make the playoff. So, I mean, they're a nine-win team. That's a good win on the road, even if they're not making the playoff. So, I definitely think that that helps the, like, for instance, isn't that also Notre Dame's best win? It is. Okay, so I don't think there's that much difference

between Texas and Notre Dame at that point. And then if Texas went lost to Georgia again, that definitively means that Texas is not as good as Georgia, but. And then I guess Georgia would be a two loss SEC champion and people would get excited about that. Well, yeah, yeah. And Georgia is probably still the SEC team would be a two loss SEC champion and people would get excited about that. Well, yeah, yeah.

And George is probably still the SEC team that most people who would see Georgia in the playoff would be most afraid of. Mm-hm. Yeah, so how with the A&M game though, Texas A&M is a nine and three team, but playing at home in that environment with what might be the loudest stadium in the history of the sport, how much better does that make A&M that day? Like that's the thing, like does A&M turn into an 11-1 team in that environment at home, or is it just a 9-3 team? Yeah, all the external factors surrounding this game, there's so much more to this than even just another really good rivalry game. Like Michigan, Ohio State's a great rivalry game, but they didn't stop playing for 11 years because

somebody went to another conference. And then the other team joined them at that conference by going behind their back to get into the conference and pissing them off. Like, there's so much here. There's so much hatred here, and there's so much big brother, little brother, liberal arts school, ag school, like all of that rolled into one in a game where the winner goes to the conference championship game. It is going to be spectacular. And yes, it is going to be a very tough environment for the road team.

It's kind of like the hype from last year's Ohio State Michigan game. Now, there's a little bit more depth to that one, I think, because. Yeah, those two teams were better probably, but but the Connor Stallions thing. But like in terms of like your hatred. Like, I don't know if there's any other rivalry in college football that matches like the actual hatred between the people. Like I go to gymnastics every Sunday morning with my daughter and I go with Texas fans and those Texas fans will say things like I'm not going to college station because I would never want to go there.

Like you know like like like you might catch a disease know, crossing the Brazos County line. Exactly like the Ryan Gosling like gif of him holding the pizza like. Like that's like how they feel, but like A&M feels like they're encroaching on their territory and that they're actually as good and that Texas hasn't done shit and all. But it's just like it's very and like

the thing that I've I've noticed is that like Texas A&M people. Don't love Texas people period like it's not just about football. It's just like they don't love Texas people period. Like it's not just about football. It's just like they don't mesh real well, you know? And it's like, I'm here, so I see it. My wife went to A&M, so I've, you know,

have a lot of her friends who are A&M, you know, grads as well and I, you know, I exist amongst these people and, you know, they are very, very passionate in not just their team, but their hatred for the other one like I feel like Texas fans hate A&M fans more than they hate OU fans. Oh I think you're right about that. I feel like there's you know dislike between Texas and Oklahoma fans but there's like some grudging respect. There's no respect whatsoever between Texas and Texas A&M fans. None. Yeah. None.

And the fact that this game gets to be played in Kyle Field, I think that like right now, my opinion is that the best environment that I've ever seen in college football is a Penn State whiteout against Ohio State. That's my personal pantheon of number one. I think it's gonna be number two on Sunday morning when I wake up.

It's, that's what I'm expecting. Yeah. Yeah. Ricky says, Michigan fan here, we definitely hate Ohio. We know you hate Ohio State. We know. It's- We know, but. It's usually the same with these teams,

but these teams haven't played since 2011 because they were pissing on each other in the boardroom. Like that's where this particular meeting makes it a little bit different, but I'm so excited. Ari, let's go back to the Big 10 though. We mentioned Penn State earlier, but I want to talk about Penn State Minnesota because James Franklin did something in this game that made me smile a little bit. Made me think, I actually kind of can't wait to watch Penn State in the

playoff if this is who they're going to be. James Franklin, up one, baked a punt up one fake to punt on fourth down to ice the game. He then went for fourth down again, twice to ice the game. He's playing a win now. And look, it was not their best game. There was very much in doubt, but I appreciate the way this game was called at the end because that is how you're going to have to call it when you get to the playoff.

See I take exception to you right now. Because last week you didn't love the play call that Dan Lanning had at the end where he did the was it a fake field goal or whatever in the side. Only because I would have rather Dylan Gabriel done it. I don't know that I would have rather drew Allard done this. I don't. This was a pretty good call. Penn State went for a fake punt up by one on the road. Also we got to our, we got to our doing it two more times on the drive. So we got to see all of it.

The fake punt was rather risky though, because they were up by one on the road with a few minutes left and they were in their own. It was. It wasn't risky because clearly they had watched Minnesota's punt coverage unit the entire time or punt return unit the entire time. And they knew that like if you watch the overhead view of that play, there was no way it was not working, so yeah, but I'm just saying like the nuts to call it in that moment,

like because if you don't get it, you lose. You know what I mean? Like that's where you're at. And I didn't love that PJ Fleck kicked a field goal on fourth and goal from inside the 10 on the previous possession. And I thought that the James Franklin quote after the game about wanting to win on our own terms when asked about going for that fake punt was almost I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but it felt like a dig to me because well, I texted you after the field goal. I was like, how do we feel about PJ kicking the field goal there?

Like, I didn't hate it because they were doing a pretty good job of it. I didn't like it. But it didn't like it didn't make me irate like some of them well if Penn State had done what Penn State usually does in those situations and that would have been just punt the ball on fourth and one Then PJs field goal try would have been the right move but James Franklin went against type and I'm glad he did. I was great to see because again, I want to see Penn State do this in the playoff. Yeah. Also, I thought Drew Aller played really well down the stretch. Yeah, I thought he did too. And this wasn't the sexiest win. And it was the game that you threw

out to show me that close games happened in the Big Ten. And it's just like, yeah, I mean, not the best win ever. I don't think that Penn State's won in the national title this year, but it's a one last team. And it's only loss was at home to Ohio State by a score. Like it's- Can I just tell you though, that I'm glad that this is going the way it's going,

where there's probably gonna be a Big 10 team at the five seed, and there's probably gonna be a big 10 team at the five seed and it's probably gonna be a big 10 team at the six seed. And then Notre Dame at six Notre Dame at six or seven a big 10 team at six or seven because we will definitively yet. We won't get an answer because it'll be a pretty small sample size, but we'll get what we've wanted to see all along. but we'll get what we've wanted to see all along. What a big 10 fans say, well, if the SEC teams had to come play in the cold weather, they wouldn't stand a chance.

And the SEC fans are like, we don't give a crap where we play, we'll play on the moon. Well, now you're gonna get your chance. We're gonna get to see that, at least in a couple of instances, I think. And it's going to be outstanding. Funny that like Tennessee, if it has to go north, we'll play a team from the Big 10 and be a four point favorite. Like I know what's coming. So it'll be interesting to see.

Also as a Floridian, Tennessee's cold too. Like it's all cold to me. Yeah. Yeah. Knoxville gets pretty cold doesn't it at this time of year? Yes, it gets very cold. So it's all cold to me. North of Orlando. Andy, the Thursday night football game between the Browns and the Steelers. The snow, yes. It was like a blizzard and everyone was like, huh, SEC is coming up there.

It's like, OK, guys, like they're kids and they're not all from the South and they've played in the cold. I think the cold thing is kind of overrated. And frankly speaking, I guess maybe Penn State would fare better in a blizzard against some of those teams down there with the speed that they have. It'd be a Real wide out.

But I actually just my favorite thing too is when teams play each you know, I think that I'm going to say something lame that annoys people Andy, which happens from time to time. I actually like the domes. Because I don't love when elements get in the way of good football. You're kind of briscoe. Yeah, I like when the best teams in the country. You know, get in the way of good football. Oh, you're got his Prisco. Oh, yeah. Like I like when,

when the best teams in the country play in a dome, there's no elements. And it's in a sterile carpeted environment, sterile carpeted environment, where the wind isn't the reason the team loses. And you just get two teams playing football. Like I hate, I hate the weather in the rain. Give me nature intervening. Yeah, it's just why should Mother Nature give a team a an advantage? I don't know. I just like that's why I like the domes. So anyway, that's just my take on that.

But I know people don't love that. Yeah, let's let's talk. It's annoying to watch a game in the rain where it's like these teams are slipping and it's just like. I stood in the rain for three and a half hours two weeks ago in Oxford, it was amazing. It was incredible. I hate watching teams who want to do things

have a hard time operating because the ball's wet. They should operate better than they should practice with a wet ball. They should have prepared for it. Let's talk a little ACC because if you only look the Miami Wake Force score and didn't actually watch the game like Miami just rolled. No Miami was in a game for three quarters and then the defense exploded. Go back.

Go back. Go Black 45. Hold on, go back, go back. Go black 45. Ari likes domes because he hates being inconvenienced. That is absolutely perfect. That is exactly right. That is why he doesn't want anyone to be inconvenienced by snow or rain or sleet or hail. When I get upset, I just go, why is nothing easy?

That's my number one. Like, why can't nothing in my life just be easy? I'm glad Jamis Winston doesn't think like you are. Well, Jamis Winston is a special guy. They wouldn't have beaten the Steelers otherwise. All right. Wake Forest Miami. Miami in a game with Wake Forest for three quarters, and the offense explodes, which is kind of what they had gotten into a rhythm of doing before

they lost to Georgia Tech. If they're back to this, you know, I think Miami, you know, wins the ACC, goes in the play. And Miami in the playoff, I feel like more so than any other ACC team, has a chance to do some damage. Yeah, I have SMU ranked higher because SMU has a better resume, but I think Miami is probably better than SMU. So we're going to get to see it. They're going to play, I think. But now, you know, they still have this offense when clicking is a very hard thing to stop. They have Cam Ward, who I believe is going to New York for the Heisman Trophy finals. As a finalist, you know, they have a lot of things to get excited about. Their defense scares the crap out of me,

and it was kind of nice to see them just get back to just beating the crap out of somebody and not being in a position where they could lose to a team that's not very good. Well, SMU is very good. Now, they've both got to win games next week. Miami has to beat Syracuse. That is not going to be an easy one to go up to the dome and win. And then SMU's got Cal. And if you didn't see Fernando Mendoza's post game speech after Cal beat Stanford, it was on the ESPN broadcast. It's pretty was just he was in his feelings.

He loves his boys. He loves his squad. That's who SMU has to beat next week. SMU pummeled Virginia. Kevin Jennings was awesome. They had an easy one for what felt like the first time in a while. Yeah, Kevin Jennings is somebody who hasn't been hopping up on the on three Heisman stuff much. I don't know if you've seen his name in the top 10, but I think I'm gonna throw him in my top 10. Oh, I think that's worthwhile. Yep.

of extensions announced for successful power conference coaches that are gonna be, they're not getting massive raises or anything, but it's, hey, we like what you're doing here. We're gonna give you another year on the deal because there are no jobs open. And we don't know if there are gonna be any jobs that open up because nobody wants to fire anybody because the calendar, because revenue sharing is coming.

There may be a couple power conference firings, but it's gonna be pretty minimal. So we'll see what happens. And Red Lashley was a name that popped up like when Florida rumors were popping around too, weren't there any? Yes, and he's a name that would pop up almost anywhere. But I think SMU, very happy with him obviously,

he's happy there. There's not anything, I don't think anything's gonna open that is going to intrigue him, but he's in. I hope Ari that Miami and SMU do win next week because I think a Miami SMU game with both of them, 11 and one in Charlotte is gonna be awesome. Now there is a chance they both get in the playoff. Just depends on what happens everywhere else. Yeah,

for sure. I mean, SMU hasn't lost an ACC game and if their first loss in the ACC is to Miami and an extra game that no one else has to play, then I think that that would. Like I think SMU has been grossly under ranked in the college football playoff rankings and I don't know why like they have Miami at eight and they're at 13 or whatever they are. It's like they are not the same. They're essentially the same. You've got SMU with a better resume. I think it's pretty equal, but they're certainly not five spots apart.

Yeah. I mean, I think SMU has better wins than Miami. I mean, their hallmark win, I guess is the same, but SMU, I think you could, anyway, you could at least make the case. Right, and BYU, which is a team SMU beat, still has a chance to win the Big 12 Championship. Yeah, and like SMU has a better loss, but it also, I think, you know, losses are part of the resume, but holy crap,

did you guys see what happened to Pitt today? I mean, woo! Yeah. That was once a quality win in the ACC, and they lost the former row now. We were worried the wheels were gonna fall off, and sure enough, the wheels fell off. I mean, that happens sometimes.

Speaking of, did you see what happened to? While all of that nonsense was going on in the early window, while we were going crazy watching Ohio State and Indiana and Florida and Ole Miss, the Illinois Rutgers game came down to Illinois thinking about attempting a 53 yard field goal, Greg Ciano calling a timeout to ice the kicker,

and then Illinois scoring a touchdown because Brett Beal was like, you know what? We probably can't make this kick, so we're just in the offense out. That was the most Big 10 West shit I've ever seen in my entire life. Honor honorary member honorary member.

Illinois. Was in the top 25 of the college football playoff rankings. I don't know how much this is going to matter now that the Big 10 seems pretty solidified in its CFP positioning, but getting that win and maintaining yet another ranked win for for Penn State and some of the teams that are in that mix is kind of an important thing, but definitely a grab ass finish.

If there was ever a grab ass finish Elsewhere in the big ten Some of you in the chat this week told me I was gonna be saying it's a curse on Saturday night It's not a curse Nebraska is bowl eligible after dominating Wisconsin and I think I think our You know our friend big cat Cat had some stuff to say to his Barstool coworker, Will Compton. Will Compton, obviously, former Nebraska player, played for a long time in the NFL.

And Big Cat was saying that Wisconsin was going to win this game. I believe JJ Watt was all over Will saying that Wisconsin was gonna win this game. Will had pretty much the perfect response to the haters and I wish I had the natural talent to pull this off. Oh, you're the better football team? Oh, you're gonna beat Nebraska this year for like

however many times in a row, you've beat us 12 last times in a row, what's that? You still got a streak going? Oh, you got something else to say, big cat? Nebraska is going bowling? Oh, what are you? Are you sad cat? That is spectacular. I wish I could fart on command like that. He farted on command five times, Ari, five times. How do you fart on command? How do you part? Well, I can build it up,

but I don't know how you parcel it out in the tank to serve it up five times in a row. How would you build it up? Do you suck air through your ass, Andy? Like, how do you do it? I mean, I know how to do it I'm not gonna tell you my secrets, but I know one way to do it Domino's cheesy bread

But not saucy nugs they will not You eat all the saucy nugs you want you play those Wendy's saucy nugs commercials that we did when we were there where you put the nugget sauce on my face and I'm down like 25 pounds from that video and I have been eating saucy nugs during this journey. They're lean. They're amazing. It's a great, it is my favorite thing to get at Wendy's because I don't, as much as I love fries now,

it's hard for me to eat fries because I know how many calories they are and I know what they're going to do to me in terms of, you know, making me hungry again pretty quick. But nugs don't do that. Nugs hit land, satisfy. Exactly. So, Jay Wall, how can Andy and Ari backtrack on Texas not playing anybody? They ignore common opponents, F.Y.I., Vandy, Florida, Michigan, Arkansas, UTSA, all bowl teams.

Texas doesn't play FCS schools like the rest of the SEC. Oh, give it time, dude. You'll add some FCS schools to the schedule. Congratulations on your wins against Vandy, Florida, Michigan, and Arkansas, and UTSA. Yeah, I think that the the Texas we haven't played anybody complex can just go away now like we said, they're going to make the playoff. I mean, I don't know what else you want.

It's like I feel like Texas fans. Texas fans feel slighted for some reason. They're like in the top three of the CFP poll and firmly control their own path. Like I don't know. I think they want to be worshiped at all times, which is probably why the A&M fans don't like them. It's just like, it's okay to just tell the truth.

It doesn't mean that we hate Texas or that you suck. It's just they haven't played anybody good really, and it's okay. They're the beneficiary of their schedule the same way that Indiana has been of theirs, and you're gonna have good years where you have the schedule and you have an opportunity to do this.

There are gonna be years where you have to play Georgia, Alabama, and four other teams that are really good. It's hard, but it's just the way it is in the city. And here's the thing, Ole Miss had an easy schedule draw too, and they lost three games. Yeah. Texas didn't. Texas only lost one.

And Texas was never like ever, even after losing to Georgia ranked at 13th, they've always been, I think, very fairly respected for what they are. Yeah. And their defense, their defense is awesome. Their offense is awesome. Yes. I don't think it's like commenting on a schedule and just being factual about

like what's occurred means that we think they suck or anything. I don't I actually don't think that there's been any Texas slander really on the podcast at all. John, I do enjoy this one. Just put Florida in as the 12th seed so we can crush one more team's dreams. That is Florida at this point. Like they are, they are the destroyer of dreams. Is there a path for South Carolina like at all? Is there a path for for Alabama that beats South Carolina or a path for Ole Miss that beats South Carolina? Probably not. That's why that's why there's probably not a path for South Carolina roadblocks hate to say yeah Yep, so

You lost to exactly the wrong teams Yeah so Ari what else do we need to touch on today? exactly the wrong teams. Yeah. So. Tough Brit. Ari, what else do we need to touch on today? I feel like we've, we've taken a journey through the sport and it has been spectacular.

Oh, Vandy LSU. Vandy LSU, that one, I believe they were a fire Kelly chance early in the night in the LSU student section But LSU beat Vanderbilt 2417 This was a much-needed piece of good news for LSU Because they lost to Florida then Bryce Underwood flipped to Michigan You were at the zoo when that happened, so I haven't got a chance to talk to you about that. Yeah, but that that's the Tigers real bad news.

Oh, yeah. But not like the the gas station tiger that the governor brought in for the Alabama game, right? No, it was a there was a piece of glass in between. I it was the bad it was the wrong time to be at the zoo, I'll be honest. I thought Thursday night usually is a pretty good time for us on our schedule to be there. And I saw the text come in and I was just holding my daughter on my shoulders and she's like,

"'Look daddy, a giraffe!' And I'm like, oh God. You're like, look, Lenny Bryce Underwood flipped a Michigan. This is the first of the century. I'm just doing my best to see my daughter once a week, and that hasn't happened, but I appreciate you. Ari is not a divorced dad on a visitation plan, by the way. That sentence just made it sound that way.

But honestly, it could be if I didn't go to the zoo with her on a Thursday night. So we're doing our best to have some family time. And we stayed in a hotel, the Drover in Fort Worth. I don't know if you know what that is. If it's a cowboy. I know what the Drover is in Omaha. I don't know what it is in Omaha.

It is? Whiskey ribeye, baby. Yeah, just a little family sleepover. We wore matching pajamas and watched the Santa Claus and fell asleep. It was cute. But yeah, so that's where I was on Thursday, but we'll hopefully not miss the next one.

That was a really important get. I don't know if this helps it at all. Like they beat Vanderbilt, congratulations, but like. Yeah, they just gotta hold on. We're gonna have to, it's not just LSU. We're gonna be watching everybody for flips because. It's flip Smith. It is.

It is Mary flips miss. They move signing day up two weeks like it is the Wednesday of Championship Week. I don't know how prepared everybody is for that either. Wednesday of Championship Week is signing day five days later. The transfer portal opens. Between then there are conference championship games and they

announce who's in the playoff. Just just a little bit to talk about a little little. Yeah. Well, I always do this at the end, Andy, but thanks so much for being here because it's discombobulated. Like I just feel like we're just drinking water out of a fire hose when we start. And I know it's kind of like all over the place and it's stream of consciousness and stuff. We are more on that. That's River's just sending because you don't get your texts on your computer.

I do. Rivers, any texts? Oh, our producer River is sending me texts constantly like move to this game, move to this game. Now this, now this, you're forgetting this. So if River didn't do that, everybody would just turn this off and be like, well, they forgot to talk about half the games. Yeah, but I think we did a pretty good job of, you know, the whole field here and we're going to be writing tonight and podcasting every day this week

So 13 9 UCLA going into the fourth quarter by the way electric beautiful uniform matchup I was I was perusing the we are SC comm message boards The other night just see where the where the USC folks were how are they were feeling after the Nebraska game? They've calmed down a little bit. They flipped an offensive lineman for North Carolina, so they were in a good mood. I don't think they'll be in a good mood if they don't win this game.

I think that will be another problem. Yeah, yeah, this is kinda how I thought it would go. We're on UCLA tonight, but yeah. Spurs, I mean, he looked up at that cheerleader. No, they weren't showing a cheerleader. This was a hit out of bounds where the USC return man was pushed out of bounds and then slammed into a UCLA player on the sideline who was just standing there, but it kind of knocked him out.

I guess it knocked them both out. So yeah, all right. This is a spectacular night. I mean, we started to show in overtime with Auburn and Texas A&M. I think we were going to go four overtimes? Yes. Four overtimes and then a European grab ass over time. I don't know if that counts as a full one or not.

No, no, there are two over times, then European grab ass over time. Yeah, European. So two over times and then two European grab ass over times. Yeah. Oh, go black 45 reminds us Mac Brown says he's coming back to UNC and gets blown out. That's also true.

Don't make... Well, I guess you can make definitive declarations because remember two weeks ago when everybody was parsing Scott Strickland, the Florida athletic director's statement about Billy Napier, like, well, he didn't say he's definitely coming back in 2025. And I think Billy Napier definitively said he's coming back in 2025 today. Yeah, that was a nice little statement. And I think that I'm gonna be on high alert for Florida in the talent accumulation month of December while everybody is in the playoffs.

Listen, you'll know the answer. You'll know whether you need to be excited or lackluster, probably by new year's Eve Ari, I got to do bracketology. You've got to do bubble watch. No one's going to agree with us, but we will be back on Sunday with bracketology and bubble watch videos. Last year we put our last week, we put those in the podcast feed. We're going to do that again this week, but we talk in bracketology and bubble watch videos last year we put there last week we put those in the podcast feed we're gonna do that again this week but we talk in bracket ology

and bubble watch at the on three sports YouTube channel we'll also be talking about a few different teams as they head into the week probably do a little do we want to do a little early Ohio State Michigan and Texas A&M Texas preview I think we need to do that I think we need to do that. Guys it's been a pleasure. This has been an incredible Saturday at college football. Alabama lost 24 to three to Oklahoma. I just, I don't even know if that's processed yet.

Let's go fill out some brackets. Sorry.