Andy & Ari On3 - Are we SURE Bill Belichick will be good at North Carolina? | Which portal QB should Auburn take?

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

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at Participating US Wendy's. ["Wendy's Theme Song"] Welcome to Andy and Ariane by Wendy's. It is a dear Andy, dear Ari day and we have a lot of incredible questions. In fact, we walked into a question that Jeff left in the chat this

morning. That's pretty much perfect. That's basically what we wanted to start off talking about anyway. So I feel like we should answer this. Jeff says, dear Andy, dear Ari, how much will Bill Belichick help the perception of the ACC overall? It doesn't hurt to have more eyes on your product and the ACC was a one bid CFP league this year

until Clemson stole a spot. Ari, what do we think about the star power of Bill Belichick in the ACC? You know, it's nuts. Um, and like, and like, I understand the notion after what happened to Florida state last year that the ACC doesn't get any respect, but they did get an at large this year and what have gotten to if Miami hadn't lost to Syracuse? Yeah.

And like, or what it would've gotten two spots anyway, had Miami not lost Syracuse. So, so here's the thing when it comes to perception and we'll get into Bill Belichick and we've got plenty to talk about with that. Yeah. But is it a perception? And I think this might upset people or is it a fact that the SEC schedule is probably harder?

Like, I think it's probably closer to just being a fact, right? Like it's a fact that the SEC schedule is probably harder? Like I think it's probably closer to just being a fact, right? Like even, and I've been a pretty, I've been pretty critical of the SEC this year because it's not, I think as top heavy as it's been in terms of just like elite, elite, elite. But I think it's probably a fact that having to play, you know, Georgia, Texas, LSU, even

on down years, you know, Florida on down years, like these teams are just built different. And maybe that'll change in the next five, six years. But if we accept that as a fact, then you navigate your schedule in the ACC having to be one game better than the SEC in terms of wins and losses, right? And I think that there were, there were two teams that had an opportunity to do that as an large outside of Clemson and one team did it. And also on top of that, the ACC perception piece, you could probably make the case that SMU is probably fighting

that battle even more than the typical ACC team because it's their first year in the league and they were able to do it. So from my perspective, and I know that a lot of people like to talk about the bias of the of the college football playoff committee or that they're just gonna like, you know, how many comments you see if Alabama can get in they're gonna get in like it's not true like and I think that this year was an illustration of that. So to answer the question, I think that it absolutely will bring more eyeballs to the league, and if he's really good, you know, which I think we have to reserve the the potential of, like that's what changes the perception more than anything. Brands

don't, winning does. So from that perspective, I think it does. But at the same time, like if you're an ACC fan and you think that the college football playoff committee is out to get you or that your league stinks and nobody believes that it's good or that's the perception of it, like I don't know even if that's true if it has any material impact on the way that the sport pans out in the end, right? Like because it's still not where it needed to be. So it might be harder on Twitter, you know, it might be harder when you're talking to an SEC fan, but you know, as it pertains to whether you got in or not, like you got two teams, you're not the big 12, you know, like, are you with me on this? I am.

I know. I think you're right. The ACC got two teams in this year, would have gotten two teams in had Miami not lost Syracuse. Like if Miami beat Syracuse and it's Miami SMU in the ACC Championship game, they were both gonna get in. So I don't really think there's a problem in terms of perception.

I think the wounds of what happened to Florida State are still fresh and I understand that. But if they got two in, I don't think there's a perception problem. If there had been a perception problem, Alabama would be in and SMU would be out. We would be talking about the Alabama Penn State game and not the SMU Penn State game. We weren't together last year, Andy, so we never got a chance to actually talk through the Florida State thing. But is it your belief that if the same exact thing happened to Florida State last year but they played in the SEC that they would have gotten in still?

Oh, they definitely got 100 percent. So then that's the heart of the issue for people, right? Yeah, that's the thing of like if they if they were the SEC, I guess if they were the SEC champion, that would just be different because there's no. Well, they would they would have. Yeah, it would have been a more difficult road. And the SEC title game would have been a more difficult game with Brock Glenn starting it. But it's like I don't know that I believe that Florida State was left out last year because they're in the ACC.

I believe that they were left out because there was another really good option and they looked terrible in the eight quarters of football they played since his injury. Like I think that like if I don't come out. Yeah, I don't think it was an ACC, SEC thing. I think it was a, the committee doesn't think Florida State's that good without Jordan Travis. And is there somebody else you could put it in instead? But it's still sucked. And the wrong decision I think.

I'm not saying that it was right or wrong. What I'm trying to get to the heart of is why is there an inferiority complex from ACC fans? That there always has been that I know, but I don't think that it should stem or be inflamed by what happened last year. I think what happened last year with Florida State was just a terrible circumstance, where they had five viable options and only four spots. And that was the first time that it happened in, you know, 10 years. So like, it was just a, it was an unwinnable situation. So, I mean, I wrote a story that ran on the front, it's on frame to my, on the front page

of the New York Times, it said that, you know, it's a beauty contest because if you can't, if you're going to leave a undefeated team out, then the system is broken. Like I'm with you on that. But like if Alabama would have gotten in this year over SMU, then I think that would have been like a, well, what, because like to me, then it would have been like, well,

then why is the ACC even exist? Like if a team can go undefeated in their, in their regular season, even if their schedule is easier, but be excellent to not lose a regular season game, they're just going to put in a, a, a, like cause like the Alabama option wasn't a great one either, you know? No, it's not like there was a two loss Alabama team that's lost on a fluke and was beating the crap out of everybody. They look flawed all year. So like to me, the perception piece of it is just like, I don't know that anybody's perception is is altering whether they can get into the playoff or not. I think there are hard schedules and I

think there are easy schedules. I think there's data to back up. And there are hard schedules within conferences and easy schedules within conferences. Like, like Indiana, Louisville got a really hard ACC schedule. Like if you compare Louisville schedule to the rest of the ACC, it's brutal. And like, it's super possible that if Miami played Louisville schedule instead of its own schedule, you know, and had Notre Dame on there and stuff and they would have finished 10 and two that it would have been a completely

different discussion. So it's not always just like you said, and that's a good point. Andy, it's not just the conference that you're in. It's also the draw that you get Indiana and Ohio State playing the same conference. Nobody is making fun of Ohio State schedule. Indiana just got a good draw this year, and I think that's also part of like the sport. Now if you're going to have 1816 team Superleagues, there are going to be years where you get a great draw and there are gonna be years where you get,

you know, a really hard draw and the rules are the rules. And just remember this moving forward, it doesn't matter what the committee might think of your conference, it doesn't matter what you think Twitter thinks of your conference. You have a strength of schedule metric and you have a quality win metric and there is a hard line formula to get in based on that.

So if you have an easy strength of schedule, but you win your quality games, you're probably going to get in with a good record. If you have a hard schedule, you were afforded an extra loss. That is forgiven in exchange for quality wins. And like, that's the formula and it's the same for everybody. Regardless, your path might be different, but it's not a conference thing. It's just a schedule draw thing. It would have worked the same for Texas had they lost.

It worked that way for Miami. It doesn't matter what conference you're in. It's a matter of how hard your schedule is, what the data says and what you do with it. Yeah. All right, let's concentrate more on the Belichick piece of this because Marcus had a great question in our chat yesterday

when we did a video right as he was getting hired. I missed this one, and I'm glad we're getting a chance to come back to it. If Nick Saban left college football because of some new frustrations that are associated with college football and how it has evolved, why do we automatically assume that Coach Belichick will succeed?

One, I don't think we're automatically assuming it. Yeah. Two, a lot of the frustrations that Nick Saban was feeling were the sport changing into something that Bill Belichick is already familiar with. Yeah, I want to push back on the notion that we're assuming he's going to be good because I've seen a lot like I'm going to write something about it today because I haven't written

anything. I was in a hell yesterday waiting in a vacant house for eight hours from a gas guy to come turn it on and I just didn't have the internet. I'm still working through how I feel about it, but like the general reaction I think I would seen from like college football people is that it's not gonna go well. I think people are-

More skepticism from college football people than from people who covered him in the NFL for sure. And you wanna know why? Because there seems to be and I don't know if you ever feel this, but like I know that college football fans are NFL fans, right? For the most part, it does seem to be a hard line in the sand of like if you're listening to the show, you're one of us. You know what I mean?

Like if you are if you are a college football head who would rather play NCAA than Madden, who would rather watch LSU Alabama than the biggest NFL matchup, like you're one of us. And I think that there is this thought process that if you are successful in the NFL, then going down to college football is child's play. And then like, oh, if he's successful in the NFL,

then there's no possible way that he can't be successful. Like, and I think that's like a viewership from like NFL people. And it's like, if you think that it's just going to be an automatic, this is easy for him, like you have no idea what you're talking about. Like I think this is going to be incredibly difficult. And the thing that you also have to imagine, or at least, you know, illustrate here is that he's at a second-tier coaching job, and he's in a conference that's not the SEC, which we just got done talking about, and he's not in the typical blue blood situation where recruiting is going to be easy.

And I know that the sport has changed, and I know that, you know, the curve has been flattened in terms of the balance of the talent. But this sport will and always will be is and always will be about how well you accumulate talent, Andy. And like that is a thing that is a complete departure. He knows how to, you know, mess with numbers and do salary cap and try to find diamonds in the rough. But has he ever had to put together a like convince people to come and be a part of it? It's a completely different thing. So like I just push back. I think that there's a chance that this can be good. But A, I don't find anything that he is going to bring to the table without reading the 400 page Bible to be

all that innovative, even though it sounds great. And he's also going to a place that I think has already demonstrated NIL situation issues. So like for NFL people to just assume that he's gonna come into the ACC and just beat the crap out of everybody because he won a Super Bowl in New England, I think is a very flawed way of thinking. Well, I've been reading a lot of stuff. Seth Wickersham at ESPN,

who's one of the great chroniclers of Bill Belichick, had a really interesting story. And it talked to sources close to Belichick about the thinking here. And a lot of the reason is, it was kind of dressed up, but he wasn't going to get an NFL job. And it was sort of dressed up as he's sick of the NFL and doesn't like the way that the layers of management in the NFL and Mike Lombardi, who's going to be his GM at

North Carolina, who has been doing what we do for the last few years. Now he's been an NFL GM and worked in NFL personnel offices for years, but he's been working at Beeson a couple of weeks ago. He was on his own show talking about this potential situation. This is before everything happened before he got hired. Obviously I'm sure he was in discussions with Belichick if Belichick got the job. But he mentioned, yeah, in the NFL, you got situations like the owner's son runs the analytics department. That is a direct reference to the Jacksonville Jaguars,

where Tony Khan runs the analytics department. That's Shad Khan's son. department that's Shad Khan's son. Like guys, if you think you're getting away from the bullshit by going from the NFL to college football, boy, howdy, have we got news for you. There's so much more bullshit in college football, so much more in the best possible way for us. But like if somebody writes a five million dollar check You've got to have like a weekend with them This is this is not the same thing like you if you're worried about layers of management There's layers of stupid management all over college football and oh by the way It's a power struggle at North Carolina that got Bill Belichick hired in the first place

Yeah struggle at North Carolina that got Bill Belichick hired in the first place. Yeah. Also too, uh, nepotism is rampant in college football too. So most of the bell check is on his way, probably the chapel hill. So, and I find that to be considering the situation that Bill Belichick's going to be in, but, um, yeah. Okay. Uh, so I read, uh, I, I haven't read the story yet, but I saw an advertisement from a story in the athletic That just says he burned every bridge he had in the NFL So I don't know if like that also concerns you I'd have to go read the story. I haven't read it yet

like I said, but Too long didn't read very very what'd you say too long didn't read? Sorry that happened to you. Or congratulations. The whole thing with college football is that there's two different types of people. There's on camera Belichick and there's behind closed doors Belichick. I don't know behind closed doors Belichick, but on camera and everything I know about Belichick is that he's an asshole. And seeing that he burned a bunch of bridges in the NFL, I think would make me worry a little bit about like the relationship aspect of it.

Because in college football, it really is, you know, buddy, buddy, what can you do for me? What, you know, how can we be friends? You know, all that sort of thing. And in the NFL, it's just dollars and cents and checks. So checks are a major part of college football. But you know what, you know, you have to acknowledge Andy, every single time somebody goes on the portal, like our

three hour long show on Monday, who did he coach by who recruited him out of high school, you know, there's still a very relationship dependent web people in college, Bill Belichick is now in that today, like, Bill Belichick is now in that today. Like Bill Belichick is talking to portal guys today. He has three weeks to shape his roster. Three weeks. And like this is a good point too. Like he was an asshole in the same way that urban Meyer was and being an asshole doesn't mean that you're not good at your job. Yeah. So yeah, you

know, I don't know, like I, having covered urban personally, and you too, like, I don't know if his coaching style or personality would fit well with today's culture. That would be really entertaining to watch. But yeah, I mean, I don't think that I'm saying that he can't recruit. I'm just saying like, you have to maintain and harbor and water your relationships because they're important in the sport Yeah, and and this is this is the part that be interesting because like you said talent accumulation is what matters the most

He has been in this situation where he's had to fit it into a budget Which is what he's gonna have to do this year, which is good that that Experience will help and to to Marcus's original question, like the guys coming back and asking for more money or some recruit saying I'm going to need this much. Bill Belichick has heard that before. He's heard that from I'm sure like Rodney Harrison's agent or whoever's agent saying, well, you've got to decide. Do you want to pay my guy or you let, or let him walk? And so that's not a new conversation to him. I don't think that's going to bother him in the least.

You know, what's going to be a new conversation, Andy, what's that? Uh, cause we've said this on the show a few times the last three days, but it's like, okay, yeah, well he has a salary cap and he has money, right? And he gets to allocate his money based on that. He's good at that, right? I wonder how he's going to handle it when he comes up against teams that have nine times the budget that he does. That's going to be the, that's going to be the problem because in the NFL you don't have that. But nobody has nine times the budget anymore with rev share. Somebody's going to

have twice the budget of somebody, but that's gonna be it. Maybe nine was a little dramatic, but I didn't go to Warton. JC in the chat, who was the last NFL head coach to go to college? Bill O'Brien this year. He actually did pretty well at Boston College. Andy, I didn't go to Warton Business School.

Warton, it's got a T. Warton, Warton. And now you know why. But the thing I still do not get from an economic standpoint is that when revenue share comes, does that eliminate the ability to earn money through NIL? No, it does not. NIL is still gonna be a thing that supplements it,

but it's not gonna be unlimited because- It won't be unlimited, and I'm assuming that people who donate through NIL is still going to be a thing that supplements it, but it's not going to be unlimited because It won't be unlimited and I'm assuming that people who donate through NIL will find alternate ways to get the money through clearer channels than the revenue sharing era. But if revenue share is, you know, X. Oh, sorry. I don't mean it. And actually this this feeds into our next question, but we'll get to that. I don't mean it's not unlimited because of the rules. The rules are not going to be able to be enforced. It's not unlimited because there's a finite amount of money that people are going to give. But if you get, if North Carolina is X based on income through revenue share, and Georgia is 1.2X.

So just a little bit more through revenue share. North Carolina has already illustrated to me an inability to compete at a high level in NIL. So if Georgia is giving you 1.2 X and you're giving them one X through just school revenue share, and then Georgia comes in with the car deals and all the other stuff through NIL that you're still getting smoked. So like I feel like I am still kind of skeptical of like how the revenue sharing thing is going to be some great equalizer because guess what we know about money and everybody wants more.

It makes it where you have the Royals and the Yankees as opposed to a single A school a single a team in the Yankees. That's that's the only difference and if you play in the Yankees. That's the only difference. And if you play for the Yankees, you're probably more likely to get bigger advertisers or interest in ads. Is that a fair, like your marketability is better? But when you have some versus having none,

then if you're a good evaluator and a good developer, you can take on people who have all. And that's the difference. But that's not what he did with New England. No, with New England, it was, you have this, everybody else has the same capabilities as you. Right. And you fit it together.

You're right. He was not in that position of, cause you can say, oh, the Cowboys, you're gonna get better endorsement deals if you're the, the Cowboys, you're going to get better. You know endorsement deals. If you're the Cowboys, no, you're not. If you're in it, if you're a good NFL player,

you're a star no matter where you are. Like Green Bay in a big media market and Aaron Rodgers was on every commercial when he was the Packers quarterback. Who was the in your opinion, the best quarterback of the last six years in college football? Would you say Trevor Lawrence?

Uh, I think that'd be fair. Okay. Joe burrow. So yeah, Joe burrow, let's go with that. Joe burrow in his final year at LSU was the Patriots quarterback for over 10 years. So, you know, like he's going to be playing Joe burrow. I don't know if he's going to have him. You're exactly right. You're exactly right. And that's the question. And River sent us a good question in our group text. Like, who's the transfer portal quarterback that Bill Belichick gets?

Because right now, you know, I think Maxson's getting another year because he got hurt in the first game and and so he could come back but like who's who's in the portal who who bill belichick should go get i mean whoever it is what if he took malik murphy what if he took duke's quarterback and duke by the way, just took Darien Mensah from Tulane. So how crazy would that be? Yeah, if he like ignited the UNC Duke football rivalry, that'd be funny. I don't know. Like there's no. Justin Fields laying around that's going to come in and transform your program. So like, it's going to be like be like, who's, who is it?

I don't know who it's gonna be. Devin Brown in the chat. We got Ratchet says Devin Brown, Goatdog says Michael Van Buren from Mississippi State. Nick in the chat, General Booty. That's right, he's got one more year. Let's go. And here like, I think money controls it all

here in the chat. I think I upset him. Drake may was a scrub. No, I think Drake may was awesome. Drake may also lost to Georgia Tech in Virginia. No, I know but Drake may also like had family lineage go through North Carolina too like right. I mean Sam Howe might have been a I mean unless like Joe Montana's grandson's North Carolina fan like I don't know if that's a there's a lot of comparisons between those two. Yeah. Drake, if Drake May's father didn't play

for North Carolina and brother wasn't a superstar basketball player at North Carolina, does he go to North Carolina? Cause he was committed to Alabama first. He almost didn't go there even with that. So I don't know, but like Drake May is, and I'm not saying it's impossible that North Carolina will get a good quarterback.

Again, not what I'm saying. They had the greatest quarterback of all time through the majority, if not all of his entire Patriots tenure. Then he's going to be at a talent disadvantage, both financially and location and conference and all the things that, you know, are playing against North Carolina. And it's a different job is all I'm saying. Jason, Cam rising almost as old as bill. Did you see the camera rising graphic yesterday? Like side by side, Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, cause they're the same recruiting class, recruiting class. And like he's coming back for another year.

And like Trevor's going into his fourth year in the NFL next year, fifth year, fifth year, dude, is it really his fifth year? That can't be his fourth. Yeah, it's his fifth. It's not his fifth. They're in the 2021 class. Yeah. Bad at math podcast.

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Thank you so much for joining us. My question for Deary Andie and Dear Ari is related to revenue sharing. I know it's coming next year, but I'm still unclear on the finer details. Is it required? How will the payment amounts be determined? I assume it's coming from media money,

which is TV contracts and whatnot. Any insights you two can share on how it will work will be greatly appreciated. All right, this is good because I think this is probably something that's confusing for a lot of people. And I see people in our business that have some kind of confusion about this. You know, there was a college football reporter yesterday who tweeted, well, North Carolina's NIL budget is going from 4 million to 20 million. And I was like, huh, is it? Because, I mean, if you just add the rev share, yeah, that's exactly what's happening. But Wake Forest is going from like $2 million to $18 million in that case. And I do think there's

some confusion. Well, I think it's because people use NIL and rev share interchangeably as terms, and they're not the same thing. They're not the same thing. So let's explain the revenue sharing part. It's based on the House versus the NCAA case. It's a federal court case, a class action suit that was filed against the NCAA in the conferences. It was settled.

The settlement has not been fully approved yet, so we are assuming it's going to be approved. It has been preliminarily approved. So we're going based on the assumption that this will get approved and this will all start kind of in the middle of the calendar next year. So sometime in the summer. And basically what it says is schools are allowed to share revenue with their players up to basically up to 20% of the average that a Power Conference school brings in. So this year, that's about $22.5 million. Now, the way the settlement is written,

$2.5 million of that has to go toward new scholarships. So we're basically talking about $20 million that the schools can share with their players. Where does the money come from? It's the TV deals, it's ticket sales, it's booster donations, all of it. It's basically athletic department revenue. So you're allowed to share that with the players. And how's it split up? It's not split up evenly unless you want it to be. split up. It's not split up evenly unless you want it to be. You don't have to do it. The number is the cap,

which it's not necessarily a salary cap because you can use NIL money to supplement it, but the number is the most you can spend according to the terms of the settlement. You can spend as little as you want. You can spend zero. Or you can go according to the terms of the settlement. You can spend as little as you want. You can spend zero. Or you can go up to that number. You can split it up among the sports however you want. Are we assume that most of the big power conference schools are going to do about Oh, put the graphic up. I sneezed and hit mute and then forgot to hit on mute. I'm sorry.

I just didn't want people to hear at least it wasn't a technological problem. This was a operator error. I appreciate that. I'm happy that I'm finding new ways to make sure that graphic is no matter what you do, there's no amount of construction or mic purchases or anything that you can do to stop that from happening. But it's kind of good for the show. I worked with a person on the Ohio State beat years ago named

Nathan Baird and he works with the Indy star now and he covers Purdue and he called me for an interview last week to ask me like my perception of like how good the Purdue job is. And I thought that that was like an interesting 20 minute discussion about like how good is that job. And basically to sum it up Andy it's well I guess it's as good as Purdue wants it to be. How much money is Purdue going to you know dedicate to this situation? How much are they going to max out their revenue share? Or are they going to be weird about it?

Are you going to pay the players commensurate to what your opponents are playing? This is all, and the fact that it's at the discretion of each individual athletic department is going to correlate with how aggressive and how important winning is to them. And you wanna know what's so ironic about this whole thing to me is that like,

this has kind of always been the case. The programs that are elite are the ones that have invested the most or have had the highest temperament to spend. So I'm wondering if like the, we're gonna find out and maybe this is just a weird like tinfoil hat theory, but if revenue share is actually going to just tilt the scales back to where it was, which is the programs that care the most about winning are going

to win the most because they're going to spend the most and the programs that just haven't traditionally wanted to invest in their football programs at the same clip are going to fall back behind again, like because like your your assumption and you know, I guess you have to at this point is that Wake Forests is going to jump from you know, two to 18. It's like maybe it doesn't like I don't know if it will or not. know, I guess you have to at this point is that Wake Forests is going to jump from, you know, two to 18. And it's like, maybe it doesn't like, I don't know if it will or not. Yeah, I basically what I've been told, like, you know, I think John Curry, the AD is trying to fund it as much as humanly possible.

And. I think, see, I don't think it's going to make the the part at the top like it's not going to separate Georgia, Ohio State, and Alabama again the way they were separated before because everybody else can pay now too. And people just aren't going- But why were they separated before the first time? Why did they ever become separated? Well, because the rules allow them to stockpile. You're just not going to be able to have those backups as good as you. You're still going to have the, your first 22 are still still gonna be better than everybody else's. What is the why do you think they were able to stockpile to begin with though. Because they produce more NFL players they in some cases paid more.

There you go so. But I invested more. No no no, no. I'm talking about just paid more, paid the players more. I don't care. I don't care how the look. I know they played, they paid more across the board for everything. But that was when your, your locker room waterfalls actually meant something.

They don't now. So I'm telling you, but Alabama's backups are not going to be better. Than a top 10 teams backups. like they were at one point. Perfect thing. And for some of the stars, this is fun. I love this. I love theorizing about the future. If you had a waterfall to begin with.

And you didn't then the team that had the waterfall to begin with is probably going to spend more right? Is that fair? But but I'm telling you we, we have Major League Baseball to show us a system like this, where you can spend as much as you want, or you can spend as little as you want, but everybody can spend some.

And you have a situation where the teams that spend as much as they want win sometimes, but don't always win. Like in the old college football system, the ones that spend as much as they wanted one all the time, but they weren't giving the money to the players directly. Now they are. So I, I think the wake forest of the world who had no chance now have some chance.

But i don't think it means that that alabama and ohio state and georgia are going to separate. Again the way they were separated before they're still gonna be better. Is it still are better now. What is the terms of the other question to and i guess we probably didn't we found the answer to this to a certain extent but I wonder if we're gonna get to an era where Georgia pays its left string left guard or its second string left guard as much as the starting left guard somewhere else or a little bit more and people will at that point Be okay with making more and playing less like I wonder if we'll ever get to that point where it's like, I don't know that we ever will. Guaranteed playing time.

I don't know that we ever will, because you still have to play to make it to the NFL. And NFL money is still quite a bit bigger than this. And NFL money is always going to be bigger than this. Yeah. So that's that's the thing. If you can't get on the field, you can't go to the NFL. So you could try to pay a backup more than a start. And also don't think I don't think Georgia is going to be able to pay its backup left guard more than Arkansas pays a starting left guard. Yeah, that's probably fair. That's true. Yeah. So I I mean that that's that's why it's gonna be harder for them because your tape is your separating really like you need tape Yeah

Exactly. So I think if the if the dollar amounts are equal you'll go where you can play I don't think economically anybody's gonna spend more on a backup Then then another conference team will spend on a starter because you have to spend that money on your starters because you gotta outbid them for your starters. So it's gonna be very interesting though. Like the way the dynamics change here.

Cause I think everybody has gotten, now it's funny because even up to last year nobody it felt like not many people understood how this system worked now I think people have gotten their heads wrapped around this one and it's gonna change again yeah and now they're gonna work in conjunction too it's not one or the other. It's together. No. Mm hmm. Yeah. So, and, and this is, this is something that Bill Belichick has to think about, like, you know, I'm assuming that because he took the job, North Carolina has, has told him, we're going to fund your rev share as high as

possible that we're going to fund rev share for football the same way Clemson's doing it. I don't think he takes a job any other way. But we don't have any guarantee of that yet. Andy, the other question that I had to is that. Or that I think we need to discuss is if these players are participating in revenue share next year and are being compensated directly from the schools, do you think that there is a change coming in terms of your ability to move as easily as you can right now from school to school? If they are willing to make them employees, which so far they haven't been, if they continue to refuse to make them employees, continue to refuse to negotiate

with them, then they're not going to be able to create any player movement rules that actually stick. What's the distinction between revenue sharing and employment? You're asking the wrong person. They're the ones saying that they don't want employment. Because of insurance? Now this is actually being determined in the courts now. Okay. And by the National Labor Relations Board. So all of that is being determined now. Yeah, I just like, I feel like if you're sharing the revenue, that's like literally just what it means.

They're still pretending it's not for football. Like they're pretending they're not paying them for being good at sports. Would you say that like Shannon Terry is sharing revenue with us? Like that's what we do. He is, yes. Revenue from on three is used to pay our salaries. Yeah.

I'm his employee, so I don't know. It's a... It's dumb. It's just verbal semantic bullshit. That's the situation. I can't wrap my mind around, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's incredibly stupid. And anybody with a brain in their head

understands that they're being paid because they're good at sports. They're essentially employees. But the schools are fighting it as hard as they can, while also preparing to pay them like they're paying employees. It's wild. It's nonsense. Yeah. Alright, let us help the revenue sharing at On3 a little more by talking about our friends at Panini because this show is brought to you by Panini America, makers of the most collectible sports cards on the planet. Visit PaniniAmerica.net. Start collecting your favorite college and NFL stars.

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going to put you in a blender. Are you ready? This is from a kosh. Who is the ideal transfer quarterback for Auburn? I think I'd prefer Malik Murphy over Jackson Arnold, but it's hard to evaluate Jackson This is from a cosh. Who is the ideal transfer quarterback for Auburn? I think I'd prefer Malik Murphy over Jackson Arnold, but it's hard to evaluate Jackson Arnold given Oklahoma's wide receiver and offensive line situation. This season Ari Malik Murphy visiting Auburn Jackson Arnold is scheduled to visit later this week. They've already they're taking Ashton Daniels, the Stanford quarterback,

so they're going to bring in two and that's would assume the competition and also you got Deuce Knight coming in as a freshman. Who you got Jackson Arnold or Malik Murphy? Because I know these are two guys that fascinate you. They're both very fascinating. The thing that is difficult for me with Auburn and the first thing I thought of is that like, what was the number one criticism of Jackson Arnold's play this year? I, I feel like it was all related to the situation more than he turned the ball over a ton.

That's true. That's true. He turned the ball over on and what is Auburn's biggest issue with their quarter turning the ball over a ton or quarterback who turned the ball over a ton. And what is Auburn's biggest issue with their quarterback? Turning the ball over a ton or quarterback who turned the ball over a ton. Now, we'll let the people who are cutting the checks and cashing the big ones for coaching decide whether or not those turnovers were a ailment that's going to travel or if they were a byproduct of. Terrible skill position offensive line play around him, right?

I like I would look at Arnold's more of more as I got nothing. I gotta make something happen, or nobody blocked anybody and they strip sack me. Like I don't look at it the same way I looked at the Peyton Thorn interceptions this year. OK, because I mean he also did have unforced turnovers, so I'm not just going to blame Oklahoma, but also very young. So if you believe that Arnold's issues are very solvable through development

of a good quarterback coach, then like I'm all in on doing it. Now, the thing that is difficult for me when it comes to Auburn is. You might make a case and I don't even know if I want to, but because I think that Malik Murphy ceiling is to the moon. Oh, by the way, Malik Murphy also had 12 interceptions this season to 26 touchdowns. But his ceiling as a physical specimen is massive. Like, could he be like Anthony Richardson with accuracy when this is all said and done? I don't know if he runs as well,

but he's a big bodied freak who can throw the ball a mile. And this is what you know, how people fall in love with this stuff. Yes. But if Jackson Arnold cuts the turnovers and reaches the potential of being the five star, then they both have very high ceilings, I think. And I'm always Panini America.

Like I'm always looking for the highest ceilings and the best buys and the, and the highest value that said, like, I don't know if Auburn is in a position right now where they want to gamble on quarterback, uh, ceiling slash development. Don't you think that Auburn should be going out and getting the most bonafide, you know, what you're getting type of guy. And I think that this specific conversation that Malik Murphy is probably more solidified in who he is than Jackson Arnold.

And if you think that Malik Murphy as he played this past year, and guys Duke went nine and three, like he had a really good year. Not great numbers. He only averages like seven yards per attempt. So he's not the most efficient. He's a 60% completion percentage, which in today's day and age, that's just okay.

So who do I think should fit better? I mean, I think that both would be electric and one of the biggest stories of the off season. But I sometimes think to myself when it comes to Auburn, you just need to go get somebody who's pretty good. Well, that's the thing. If Cam Coleman is as good as we think he's gonna be, if some of these skill guys that Auburn is bringing in are as good as we think they're gonna be, then I think there's a chance that

the quarterback is gonna be made better by the skill guys. Now, you mentioned Malik Murphy. Jackson Arnold is the more, probably the better runner scrambler here. Yeah, right, right. Malik Murphy had negative 79 rushing yards, and remember, sacks are included here. But that's a guy who is there to throw.

He ain't there to run. So you just decide that. I think that that rule is stupid, by the way. I can't stand that rule. Well, also let's not, the thing I liked what Auburn's doing is is that they're like, okay, guys, we're going to have a competition, right?

Like they're not just guaranteeing a spot. And like, what if we get to the end of the road next year in the fall and like, deuce night's just the best one, like, or, or, or Ashton Daniels. Right. And I think that may help solve your problem there. It may make your decision for you because one person may say, I'm only going where I can start or where I know I'm going to start. And another person may say, I'm happy to compete. I guarantee you want the person who's happy to compete.

I guarantee you that person has a better chance of success than the one who says, I want the guaranteed starting job. I'm not saying I'm not putting that on Malik Murphy or Jackson Arnold, I'm just saying that's usually how these situations work. And so if you've got someone who understands that they're coming in and Ashton Daniel's gonna be there and Deuce Knight's gonna be there and they wanna play quarterback for Auburn next year too,

and they think they're the best person to play out quarterback for Auburn next year, then, and you're willing to compete with them I think that's a good thing for Auburn. Andy, Dan Mullen just took the UNLV job I don't know if you that's right that's right yeah he was he was rumored to be in well everybody was reporting that he was working through a deal last night and and now sounds like he's he's in so I think that's a good hire for you and all of the cause I think Dan Mullen at that level. Is gonna be a really good coach when when he's not expected to bring in top five recruiting classes like he was at Florida.

Then I don't think there's a problem at all. Maybe you want to be too cause we we kept saying that Dan Mullen would probably be a very like under the radar savvy higher in the rev share era. I wonder if like you and LV got in on the ground floor of somebody who's going to be very coveted again in two years. I would think so, because I said when North Carolina opened that that would be the perfect spot for him, because you know, you look at what he did in Mississippi State. He's the best coach Mississippi State's

ever had and if you're at a place where they're not expecting national titles and they're not expecting a that that level of recruiting class every year. Then he's fine. He just he does not want to be involved in that, which maybe that doesn't even exist anymore. But I think it still does. I think when you're recruiting classes, or you're not your recruiting class, your roster is constantly being compared to Kirby smarts roster. You better have that in you to try to go get those guys. But he doesn't he doesn't have to worry about that now. Now his roster is going to be compared to

Spencer Danielsons roster at Boise State. How well can he compete with that? Yep, and he probably will be able to. And he gets to live in Vegas. What a guy. What a lucky guy. Exactly. You think he's going to go get some nice sick house in Seven Hills and just have like a infinity pool that overlooks the strip and all that and just like live the American dream? I don't't know through there and overlook the strip kind of family. I think they're probably out in the burbs a little bit

Yeah, well, I mean the overlooking the strip is in the burbs there because you're on the side of the mountain I forgot there's mountains the view goes for a long way You're right. I don't know if you guys do this. I do this I watch YouTube videos of like really insanely expensive houses and just envision one day what it would be like to have one. And like the architecture of the new bills in the Las Vegas Hills, like in Summerlin and Henderson are insane. Like they have like water that goes inside and outside. I got to send you this video. Like I was like watching it for 40 minutes last night before bed and I was just like, this is the most insane thing I've ever

seen. And my wife's grandmother lives in Summerlin and they've got a really awesome, you restaurants out there and like I would legitimately live in Summerlin if it were up to me. Well, it's your wife's hometown. So she refuses to move back. And it bothers me because it has semi-reasonable cost of living, the best restaurant scene in America because every best restaurant from other cities came to it.

You're four hours away from the ocean. There's outdoor activities. The climate's amazing. It's beautiful. There are mountains. Like, what are we doing? You can gamble in gas stations. Like, what are we doing here?

She goes, I don't think it's a really great place to raise our daughter. And I said, you grew up there and you're fine. You didn't turn into an ax murderer. Come on. She's great. Like, I mean, I think she saw some stuff that maybe most kids haven't seen, you know, growing up when your prom is in the MGM grand. I think your, your, your upbringing is a little bit different, but at the same time too, she also went to

A&M and it evened her out a little bit. So you're just going to send it, just make sure you send your daughter to a large state school somewhere else. We're going to, we're going to, uh, we're going to raise our daughter in Vegas. Her prom is going to be in the encore and then she's going to Wisconsin. Okay. And then we'll be good. Perfect. It's just balance her out. I love it. Yeah. All right. We have more questions to answer before we do. Let's tell everybody about prize picks the best daily fantasy

game in America. Download the app, use the code staples, play $55 get $50 instantly. The army Navy game is this weekend We got squares on the army Navy game Bryson Daly army quarterback one of the more fun guys to watch this year This is really you you asking yourself How you think this game is gonna go because if army is playing as well as they played against two lane in the American Championship last week There's a chance Bryson Daly ain't throwing When army's got it cooking, they don't have to throw. He only threw through twice in the

American Championship game. It was for 17 yards. His price pick square right now is 63 and a half passing yards. If you think he's going to have to throw for more than that, then that is a vote for Navy. To be very much in this game,

and I think this game is going to be a lot of fun Ari because this is as good as both of those teams have been in a long time. And I can't wait. I'm a little disappointed that it's going to be clear skies. It's not going to be snowing for this game, but it's going to be a fun one to watch. And that Bryson Daly passing number really

is you decide how you think this game is going to go. 127 and 1 half rushing yards. I think no matter what, it's got to be more than that if Army's going to win. Andy, I have a stupid question. Go for it. I think I know the answer to it, but I don't know. Because Bryson Daly is slippery, man.

Oh yeah. He's really good. No, he's not a batter. He can be a battering ram if he wants to like he squats an insane amount but he's got some wiggle to him too. Now we haven't really seen it arm talent wise but if he wanted the transfer he can't right? Like when you go to the Naval Academy you sign up. You can transfer out, you just can't transfer in. Yeah, I mean, he likes to be. Could he be the go be the quarterback at UNLV and then opt out of being in the Navy? Or is it too late?

You mean the Army or the Army? Sorry, yeah, I that that I don't know how that works because like Paul Skeens is the most famous transfer from a service Academy. He he finished it. I believe he finished at Air Force Academy and then went to LSU for the last year of his college baseball career. And now doesn't have to be in the Air

Force. I don't know about that. I don't know how that works. I don't know if he got it. He might be better for the Navy if you're a pirate but like part of your agreement when you agree to go to a service Academy is that you will serve in that branch of the military for a certain number of years. My cousin went to the United States Naval Academy and like has been in the Navy for 20 years and she's like my age and like I think is retiring in five years with full pension. She's got a really good life. Yeah. That's the way that you do it

because first of all you got to be a badass to get into one of those schools academically. And so you go, you get trained there. If you decide you want to have a longer military career, you can go 20, 25 years, retire, and then you're still kind of in your prime earning phase. And there's a lot of corporate America that wants to hire retired military officers. So you get the retirement money and your salary. Because she's a meteorologist. And I don't want to like air out her laundry on a podcast,

but like she's my age, like we're the same age. And I think she's four or five years away from being done. And I think she could live the rest of her life without working. Except she will be sought after for high paying jobs by a lot of people. Rich and like, but also she's had to spend six months at a time on a naval ship in the middle of her life. So I don't know. It's a choice. It's a choice people make and God bless them for making it too. I'm glad they do. But Bryson, Bryson Daley is so much fun to watch. Can't wait

to see him in the Army Navy game on Saturday. How you think about that passing number? We'll find out also this weekend. You got a Patrick Mahomes on prize picks. 99% off square. If he throws for at yard, you win that square. So download the app, use the code staples, play $5, get $50 instantly on price picks. All right. Here's the answer. And it's just so people know. I think this is right. Skeen's left the United States Air Force Academy after two years. So you have no obligation. I think it's once you

get to through the first two. I don't know. I don't know where Bryson Daly is. I think he's past that that mark, but I believe he is can't opt out of going to the army and deciding to live in Vegas now, which is if you want to know what the type of American I am, like I'm in Vegas. Like that's what I'm doing. So I don't know. There are Bryson Daly's out there. Yeah, me too. Me too. I mean, I'm thankful for them. I'm just soft. Okay, like, I don't know what you

want. Like you think I'm hard? Like I can. Yep. So Eric in the chat is a Naval Academy grad and is throwing it throwing spitting facts at us. So yeah, that's why I put it up there. Thanks for being here. Yep. All right. This question is from Zack. This is a fun one. rank the coaches of the top six ranked teams, not seeded, but ranked teams, in the college football playoff in order of pressure

to at least make the semi-finals from most to least. So, I'm not ranking them right now, I'm naming them. Oregon's Dan Lanning, George's Kirby Smart, Texas' Steve Sarkeesian, Penn State's James Franklin, Notre Dame's Marcus Freeman, Ohio States, Ryan day, uh, number one, Ari, I think is pretty easy, but go for it. Yeah. I mean, there's only number one and then there's everyone else.

Like Ryan day could be coaching for his job. So, uh, and by the way, very, very weird dynamic because there's not usually a person who's went out or you're in when you make the playoff. Like usually this is the destination. Right, and Zach's question is about the semis. Ryan Day doesn't just have to make the semis, he has to win the whole thing. And Ross Bjork went on 97.1, the fan in Columbus, I believe this morning and said, hey, we're our relationships. Fine. We get along great. I'm not and this is what you have to say. But also if I'm Ross, I'm like, wait, you want me to fire this guy?

Look at his record. Like this is this strange situation. But the and I ultimately don't think they will. I don't either. Although whether they should, I think is a very interesting discussion because I'm very curious about that from your perspective. You know, like as somebody who didn't live. I don't think they should. I think I think I think you're tempting the football gods if you fire somebody with that.

That kind of what point do you fire somebody for not being able to beat their rival at Ohio State? Like how many years if you lose Michigan next year, I don't care. Like that's it. Okay, well next year they're on the road and Michigan's going to be a lot better and Ohio State is going to be a lot worse. So I think- Okay, you're Ohio State. You're always supposed to be better than Michigan. No, I know, but I'm saying like it's going to be harder next year than it was this year. Much harder. Okay. That's fine. But I'm saying if you think that he has a Michigan problem and that they're going gonna be either underdogs or even to win on the road next year,

it's probably not that much more expensive to just do it now, is what I'm saying. I also think if he were to lose to Tennessee in the first round of the playoff, I think the outside pressure would be so great that he might just say to hell with this and go find another job, because there are people who would hire him to coach. I just say to hell with this and go find another job because there are people who would hire him to coach.

I just don't think he's built that way. Like I think that that's like a thing that people are floating out of like he should voluntarily leave. He'd want to stay and fix it. I mean it can't get worse now. You're playing with house money. You might as well try one more time instead of going out like and being viewed as a loser for the rest of your life.

Why would you do that? I don't think he's built that way. I know that people think he's soft and that he can't compete and stuff and you know, maybe he's earned some of that. But I don't think that that's how he is as a man. So we'll see how it goes. But you know, he's definitely number one. And then James Franklin, I would say is number two, definitively. I would agree with that. It's kind of everybody else, right? James Franklin, because of the draw more than anything else, because they're going to be favored. If they're, they're, they're favored against SMU. If they beat SMU, they'll be favored against Boise state. They have the most favorable draw of anyone. And I think Ari, if they didn't have best straw, let's say they, let's say that they flip places with Ohio state and they had Tennessee

coming to state college, I think Penn State fans would be mad if they lost that first round game, but it's not like they'd be like, this is terrible. We can never win a big game, blah, blah, blah. Like they would understand that that's kind of a coin flip. This doesn't feel like a coin flip. So it feels like James Franklin has to win this game. And can you put the choices back up on the screen again? Sorry, just a river. Can you just do it?

Because I forgot I can talk. Okay, we're good. Okay, so I think the person who's at the bottom of the list, let's go to number six would be Kurt Signetti, right? Like he has zero pressure. Well, he's not on the list. He's not one of the top six ranked ones. I think the smart is the number last. list. He's not. He's not one of the top six ranked ones. I think Kirby Smart is the is the number six

on this list. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I thought he's delivered you two national titles in the past three seasons like he's done everything he said he would do. He has you in a position to be competing for the national championship every single year like he's far and away the one that's furthest away from being fired obviously yeah right and it's not even fired it's like yeah georgia fans will browse a little bit if they don't win the national title because they expect national titles every year but

we know that kirby will have in a position to compete for the national title again next year too. Like that's not changing. The person I had number three in this one is actually Sark, but only because of the draw. Because I think Sark has done what he's supposed to do at Texas. He's got, he's made them nationally relevant. They're in the mix for, you know, the national title. And I think it certainly looks like they're set up for future success that they're going to keep coming back to this thing, or they're going to be in the mix for this most years. The only reason I say this year he's under more pressure to make semis is because he drew Clemson and then Arizona state, if they beat Clemson, if he had

a harder draw, I'd have them further down the list. Well, now, I mean, now we're're in the naked, tender version of pressure, because it's like these guys, Dan Lanning's on the list. Yeah, they love Sark, they love Dan Lanning. Yeah. So Sark, and then would it be Lanning, because he still, he beat Ohio State this year, but he still has the Washington thing going over his head a little bit, or he took them a

few years to, I don't know. No, I think Lanning's fine. I also think Marcus Freeman's fine. Like he's he's gotten them here. You look at their their situation. I think they're probably going to be back here. Most, you know, a lot of years. I mean, I would put Freeman. I would put Freeman number three ahead of Sarkin. Would you? OK. Because of who they're playing.

Yeah, I think they're playing an in-state opponent. has to win some of these but I think it's it's weird I tell me if this makes sense or not There's more pressure on the position of Notre Dame head coach than on Marcus Freeman himself Because Notre Dame just has not won any of these games in so long like they didn't win a single BCS bowl. They didn't win a single New Year's 6 bowl or college football playoff game like they have not won any of these games, whether it's you know, Brian Kelly Marcus Freeman,

Charlie Weiss like they just haven't won any of these games. So. But I'm like they got to win one eventually. From the revolt factor here. And it's like, I don't think anything could happen to Texas or Georgia for the revolting. Like we are only two and a half months or two months removed from like Notre Dame fans hating Marcus Freeman. And he did a really good job of bouncing back and getting them to the playoff. And this year was playoff or bust.

They made the playoff. And this year was playoff or bust, they made the playoff. But I do think that playing an in-state team like Indiana at home on Friday night with the entire country watching, if he coaches poorly or they lose that game, I think that like from a uncomfortability standpoint, like he would be unquestionably number, because I don't think Sark is like, oh, winner you're fired. You know what I mean?

I can buy that. I just think Day and Franklin are in a different league than everybody else. They're the only ones that actually, I think are facing. I mean, I don't even know if James Franklin is because he's contractually shielded from it, but like Ryan Day is contractually shielded in the same way.

It's just that I don't think I don't know. I don't know. You know what James Franklin's buyout is. Wouldn't James Franklin's buyout be in the over 50 mil? I don't think it's the daises Ryan Dazis 37 that 37 millions a lot of money if you know I know You'll spend 37 you'll spend 50 I Think James Franklin might be more like cuz he had a 10-year hundred million dollar contract 90 million dollar contract that he signed three years

ago, so do the math Probably be over 60 million dollars at this point, wouldn't it? I believe that's about where it is. So it's almost double. If you'd spend $37, you'd spend $60. Yes. I mean, I didn't go to Warden. Warden.

Good Lord. Fun question. I would love to rank these coaches another time based on who you just thinks the best coach. Oh but we can do that. We have a whole summer month. Yeah, that sounds like a great great topic for next week. I I'd say you just you just wrote next Tuesday's show Ari. Speaking of which we will see you again on Monday. Picks show for the first round of the college football playoff.

Also little news before we go. Rich Rod has been announced as West Virginia's old new head coach. He's back. You know another game? What's that? We're getting all the reunions like Rich Rod back at West Virginia and Scott Frost back at UCF.

Let's go around and come up with the coach that you would like to see return to a program, like Brett Bielema at Wisconsin, for instance. Like who do you wanna bring back to a place that they've already been? I mean, Steve Spurrier has an office in the stadium. Steve Spurrier, head coach at Florida. Like, I don't know, I'd love to see what Jim Trestle at the but like it's more

fun when it's an active coach like who could you bring back to a place that's gone off and coach somewhere else like Dan Mullen back to Mississippi State like who would you bring back? I think Dan Mullen would do fine at Mississippi State. I think that'd be a good one. Producer River Lane Kiffin at Tennessee. Alright, Lane Kiffin at Tennessee. All right. Lane Kiffin at USC. Oh yeah, cause that would be an upgrade. Like I don't think Tennessee fans would trade Josh Hyple for Lane Kiffin right now, but I guarantee you, USC fans would instantly trade Lincoln Riley

for Lane Kiffin. Run it back, dude. Let's do it. I might write that. Do it. Do it. We'll talk about it next week on the show. Guys, enjoy your weekends. Enjoy Army Navy. Enjoy

watching. Well, we think we know is you know, the Heisman and we'll talk to you on Monday.