Andy & Ari On3 - College Football Playoff Week 14 Ranking LIVE reaction

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

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Special College Football Playoff Ranking Reveal Edition of Andy and Ariane, who we presented by Wendy's. Just go to the invisible redneck in the chat. Who says the CFP show is stupid. Not this show, the main show. That's right. We're the non-stupid show. Hi Ari.

Don't go to the monitors. To go to the correct microphone. Yes. That was me screaming at my television when there was a shot clock violation and the officials in the basketball game were like, no, let's take a look at the monitor and figure out if the ball hit the rim. No, it's a 10 point game. Just let it, let it run. Let's go. So we are now ready. Zero days since Ari's latest mic issue. Thank you for helping me out here.

But I'm happy to be here. Andy, we were saying before the show during the college basketball game that everybody wanted to finish that tonight could go off the rails. Do you think tonight can go off the rails? I do. I'll tell you what I'm very interested in. We had a conversation on the show this morning about South Carolina.

We had some South Carolina fans in the chat and they were asking, okay, what does South Carolina need to get in? And I said the problem for South Carolina is that they are kind of blocked, feels like, by Ole Miss and Alabama, who they lost to head to head, who also have three losses. This assumes that South Carolina win against Clemson. I don't know if it assumes Texas A&M winning the SEC, which is possible, and South Carolina has a win against Texas A&M, so that would be great for South Carolina. But then not because Texas A&M would be your classic bid thief. Because like we see in basketball where you have the conference tournament champion that wasn't going to be an

at-large that gets the automatic bid and that takes away an at large spot. So what I want to see Ari, it's not necessarily who's in the 1 through 12 because I think that those teams are feeling pretty good. It's where did Alabama and Ole Miss fall to? Where are they in relation to South Carolina? Because I'm assuming it's the head-to-head that would block them, but I realize I shouldn't be making any assumptions. They got to you, man. They were not taking no for an answer and here you are. They were after us all day on Twitter. What could I eat or shove up my rectum if they make it? Like I don't know like what they're not making the playoff. We don't need to get into that. I think that trend has died. Let's let it rest in peace.

Look at all those people in the committee room. They look really bored. The question I have for you as we're waiting for them to say whatever they're saying is, do you think there will be anybody in the top 12 tonight that did not appear in either of our top 12s, Bubble Watch watch and bracket ology on the weekend. I don't know who it would be because we had. We both had SMU. Do you think SMU is not in because we both had SMU in spots where they get it at large? Well, the thing is,

if SMU is not in, you have a grab ass team in front of it. Like there's no, like when we, the thing that I discovered when I was doing Bubble Watch was is that once you filled out the field, there were no other viable candidates from our understanding left. So like that's the thing. It's like if somebody's in the top 12 that isn't SMU,

then who the hell is it? Like that's the, so like I would anticipate that the answer is no, but I am very curious too because I had a friend of mine texting me today that he is like certain that Alabama would get taken over SMU if SMU loses the ACC Championship game and he was certain, it was just a buddy of mine talking, but certain that Alabama would be taken over Ole Miss too and I just thought that that was a very strange thought process, but then when you started to hear the rationale,

which is, you know, Alabama laid an egg on Saturday, there's no question about it, but Alabama and Ole Miss both hold wins over Georgia and Alabama didn't get blown off the field by the LSU team that blew Ole Miss off the field. So I think I wonder if there's- LSU didn't blow Ole Miss off the field, they beat Ole Miss in overtime. Alabama did however get blown off the field by the LSU team that blew Ole Miss off the field. So I think I wonder if there's a shooting blow Ole Miss off the field.

They beat Ole Miss in overtime. Alabama did however get blown off the field by Oklahoma and Oklahoma team that Ole Miss did blow off the field. Yeah, but I think that if you like cancel out the Georgia games. Alright, we got rankings. They're not wasting time.

They got another. Yeah, they got out of the ring. Duke Kansas game to get to Colorado number 25 Kansas State number 24. So nobody that's going to affect our bubble teams. Okay? And then like if Penn State took a second loss, that would maybe matter.

I don't think Penn State's gonna lose to Maryland. Firmly in now that that doesn't even matter. My rebels, baby, my rebels. UNLV, but you and I'll be just sitting there going, alright, let's beat Nevada. Let's go play Boise on the blue and see how this goes because that first UNLV Boise State game was really good. It was a five point game. It was really the first one. Ashton Gentie wasn't completely superhuman. Missouri 21, they're up two.

They're going to buoy some schedules here. So good for South Carolina and Texas A&M there. There's Texas A&M dropping five after losing to Auburn. Texas A&M, they're a win-and-end situation. They got to beat Texas and then they got to win the SEC Championship game. That is how they get in. I don't think there's any other way. BYU is 19th. Okay.

This is exciting. I love this stuff. With the other thing I was I was interested in is where are the big 12 contenders relative to Boise State? Because I've said if Boise State keeps winning, they'll be ranked ahead of the the Big 12 champ. You say no, the Big 12 champ will get will jump them. The committee will just find a reason to jump them. So they're pretty far behind right now. Yep, because Boise State's been at 12. Wow, that's interesting for Tulane. BYU, Iowa State, Arizona State's the only other one. Does the two-lane thing here make you think twice about the Mountain West champion if UNLV beats Boise?

No. Because two lanes, two lane lost to Kansas State and Oklahoma. I know, but they're ahead of UNLV, so if all of them, if both of them went out, would the American be taking over UNLV? If UNLV won out, maybe not, but if Boise State goes up. That's what I'm saying. They're set to say 16. So I'm telling you, Ari, if Boise State goes 12 and 1, they're your four seed. South Carolina's behind Ole Miss and Alabama still.

Okay. There's your answer on that one. Now, they do have a game against Clemson where they can look good. So I might bump up. With the Tulane thing, I think I might have made a mistake bymson where they can look good. So I might bump up with the Tulane thing. I think I might've made a mistake by putting UNLV in my field on Sunday. Maybe. Yeah. Cause Tulane, if they beat army in the American championship could conceivably be an over a mountain west champion UNLV. We had an interesting question.

Ole Miss is 14 Andy, which means that Alabama is ahead. Ole Miss, so they're right all clustered together. But South Carolina. Has the tougher game of the of the remaining game for the three teams and so South Carolina could be Clemson in this thing. Clemson's ranked above all of them, right? Yeah. Alabama is just sitting right there, waiting to I'm so happy I didn't leave them off.

Is this a tiger paw or is this an A? It's an A. OK. Which means the tiger is coming up. Which means what if Clemson beat South Carolina? Are they in line for an at large? Oh, my God. Possibly. Cause that seems a little odd.

Well, the thing that's interesting is that there is Georgia and then Clemson getting crushed by Georgia. There is a debate still of whether or not we feel comfortable at the ACC Championship loser would get in. I can't imagine that Clemson would get in if the ACC Championship game loser doesn't. So I think the't imagine that Clemson would get in if the ACC Championship game loser doesn't. So I think the only circumstance that Clemson gets in is if they're the second ACC team, right?

They can't have any of above these guys. You're going to get there's a world where there's going to be three ACC teams in the top 12 at the end of the year. If Clemson beats South Carolina, you're going to have to come up with a reason for Alabama or Ole Miss to jump them. So Clemson's on the doorstep there. Yeah boo! Now they're not in at 12 because remember all of the big 12 teams are ranked below so the big 12 champ will lollipip them. I'm just trying to figure out the math on the,

we're one upset away from somebody bowing out here. Like if Miami were to lose. But, but. I guess I would clear enough. South Carolina beating number 12 Clemson, or. Yeah. Cause Clemson's only gonna drop to like 16 if South Carolina beats him.

Does that allow South Carolina to vault up there? I'm telling you, you may be an iron bowl loss away from a Clemson or South Carolina winner going to the playoff. Okay, so Boise is 11. So they would be in anyway. Now obviously they need to keep winning because they lost lost they would just

drop. So I think that's now somebody in the chat asked a really interesting question before we started and they were referencing Florida State last year and what happened to Jordan Travis and it was. What happens? So here it is. Sloth whisper 81 Boise wins out but Gentie suffers an injury. Hopefully not. Obviously nobody wishes injury on anybody. But would the committee treat them as they treated Florida State last year? Well does Tulane win the American with their only two losses being out of state or out

of conference? I mean potentially. I mean. Potentially. I think that's okay. Indiana dropped 10. So now we know where they are. Hanging in. They're one spot in in terms of at large. SMU jumped Indiana.

Okay. Two bit ACC looking pretty good if SMU in Miami win this weekend. You've got me in a pretzel with three bit ACC though, Andy. I'm in a pretzel right now. Clemson thinks crazy because you got to, if they beat South Carolina, which is going to be a good win, I think ultimately the committee would jump them with Alabama or Ole Miss, but they got to make up a reason to do it because they got him ahead of him now.

Yeah. Tennessee moves up to 8. Alright, River got that one up there pretty quickly. I think he was he was ready to put that up. Yeah, he's moving fast on the old balls. So we think 7 is going to be. Yeah, he's moving fast on the old balls. So we think seven is going to be. Georgia. I would anticipate it being Georgia. Yeah, the Big 10 is going to dominate the top 5.

Yeah, I would say. Yeah, I would say that. You're a little ahead of me are there's Georgia OK and Georgia can go up by winning the SEC Championship or go down by losing it, but I don't think they come fall out of the field. Texas is it remember up there too. Texas is your highest ranked SEC team. They just have to beat Texas A&M to stay there. And if Texas beats Texas A&M, then both both teams in the SEC Championship game get in. Which we assumed all season, but now is not a safe assumption.

I'm like pondering right now whether I'm writing Miami 6, whether I'm writing at after we're done here that the Clemson South Carolina game is a play in game potentially for the playoff. Um it is unless the committee just decides to retcon a new reason to leave the the winner out. That's just crap. That's just that would just be crap. Well, they should have thought about that before they ranked in this way. But I'm saying like that's why I'm saying them ranking in this way has to mean they feel that way, right?

Yeah. They feel that way today. Doesn't mean they're going to feel like next week or the week after. Unless South Carolina wins and they don't think that's a good enough win to jump them but I don't see how it's. I mean, if you think Clemson's number twelve in South Carolina beats them, then they probably should move up, right? Yeah. Where do you move everybody up? Yeah. There's Notre Dame at five. So Notre Dame's hosting a hosting a game. Yeah, it's gonna be Notre Dame and

Indiana the first round and it's gonna be kind of funny. State Championship game, baby. You gotta love it. The Hoosier Bowl. Okay, so then it should be it the Hoosier Bowl. Okay so then it should be Penn State, Texas, Ohio State, Oregon right? That's what it should be yeah I think that makes the most sense. Yeah Penn State's four so that means three two one will be Texas, Ohio State, and Oregon. Alright so there you have it we have the top 25 The question now Really is in that that 12 through 15 cluster where you've got Clemson

Alabama Ole Miss South Carolina did I get that the right order is that the work? That's the order they have it in right? Yep First first team out right now is Clemson second team out have it in, right? Yep. First team out right now is Clemson, second team out is Bama. Right, and then you have Ole Miss and South Carolina right there. South Carolina and Clemson play on Saturday. It's at Clemson, Clemson is a two and a half point favorite

or was a two and a half point favorite when we picked the game. That's one I feel like everybody's been saying, that's when South Carolina is gonna win. Man. That so that as a secret cluster is such a diabolical situation. But there is like there is no winning that like I think that we're all on board to be like, yeah, go South Carolina, but

like it would make zero sense sense if they ended up going. But what if Clemson beat South Carolina? You're going to put them in over Alabama and Ole Miss? I think if Clemson beat South Carolina, does Clemson just block out the SEC's remaining cluster at that point? Well, what you're gonna get, the argument, I can tell you right now, Greg Sankey's gonna be on TV all week next week going, Alabama and Ole Miss both beat Georgia and Clemson got destroyed by Georgia. What are we even doing here? That is what Greg Sankey will say.

And then Jim Phillips, who I praised last week for understanding the assignment, is going to understand the assignment and he's going to politic for Clemson. Now here's here's the compromise. You ready for the compromise that nobody's going to like? ACC title game loser. Falls out Clemson and then one of those SEC teams gets in. I know but then if you take one of those SEC teams, you're

gonna have two that got screwed. It like makes no sense. Somebody's getting screwed no matter what Ari unless well we say that we say that we assumed that Alabama would beat Oklahoma last week and Alabama lost by three touchdowns to Oklahoma. So there's no reason that we should assume that Alabama will win the Iron Bowl, that Ole Miss will win the Egg Bowl. I think South Carolina Clemson is a contentious game. There's nobody assuming a winner in either direction on that one.

You know, whose resume I've spent zero time reading because I haven't thought about them at all is Clemson So let's look at it real quick Clemson strength of record is 18th. They are number 14 in FBI Their strength of schedule is 57 the remaining schedule 26 because they play South Carolina and their game control is 12 Give me give us Alabama and Ole Miss because South Carolina doesn't need to be involved in this one because South Carolina would not Clemson outlet just by beating them. Ole Miss is strength of record is 19th. Their FBI is six, which is eight spots ahead of Clemson. Their strength of schedule is 27, which is 30 spots ahead of Clemson in their game control. They're number one. Okay, and how about Alabama?

Okay, Alabama is number 11 in the strength of record, which is seven and six spots ahead of Clemson and Ole Miss. They are number four in FBI, their strength of schedule is 11 and their game control is five. Like Clemson telling you right now, if Clemson beats South Carolina, they're going to come up with a way to move Alabama or Ole Miss ahead of them. And there and Clemson people will rightfully go crazy. They'd be right. Yeah, I don't understand Clemson's ranking to begin with.

They have zero quality wins and they're only losses were against the two best teams on their schedule. Like there's like zero merit for them. And that's what I think I'm going to be writing about after this. It makes sense. And the thing is this is why people get mad at the committee because we can spot this from a mile away. we can spot this from a mile away. Like Clemson, if it beats South Carolina, is going to be like, wow, we're in now. Look at where we are.

We just beat the number 15 team. And maybe even somebody loses ahead of them. They're like, we're in. And then they won't put them in. Yeah. So here's the thing that I struggle with. And I've said it a million times, Andy, but I'm gonna waterboard you with it again.

Okay, so Clemson's resumes and help me we're workshopping what I think I'm gonna end up writing. Yeah Clemson doesn't have a single bullet point on its resume at this point Like the two best teams on its schedule this year are Louisville and Georgia and they got destroyed by Georgia and they lost to Louisville Everybody else is pretty badly to Louisville too. Yeah. Now they have one. You were lost by South Carolina. Win is a good win. So remember, I understand that

if they're playing where they are already, the argument we're going to have if Clemson is actually in the mix is because they beat South Carolina so don't don't throw that out. Yeah, and then we're getting neither is Indiana, but Indiana also only has lost once losing is part of your resume guys. So what's more impressive Clemson doing what it did against its

schedule losing by pretty hefty margins to the two good teams they've played. Or Alabama who beat Georgia, but also just gotten embarrassed on Saturday. Like I don't know which team I feel good about because I don't think, like we are not a show. You don't feel good about even one because they have warts, that's, listen. Alabama doesn't have a wart, they have a cyst.

That was disgusting. Like that's not a wart. What do you call the Clemson Georgia game, Ari? I call that, I don't know what's another word. Alabama beat your medical school. Yeah, but it's one shooter is all I'm saying. A goiter. Yeah, there's I don't want to live in a world where we forget

about losses. That's all like they have one less loss and that matters to me does it but what would Alabama's record be against Clemson schedule what would old miss's record be against Clemson so yeah yeah so i mean you could you could probably definitively say that they would have a better record against Clemson schedule than Clemson. Clemson's the most misranked. Ole Miss actually beat, oh wait, wait, wait. Ole Miss and Alabama also beat South Carolina. Yeah, they're the most misranked team on the schedule, or on the, do you agree with that?

Yes. Okay. And here's why I don't like it. Because they're gonna fix it either next week or the week after. And the week after is the one that counts. But they're gonna fix it. And it's gonna piss everybody off. And if they had just ranked them correctly this time, people wouldn't get mad at them next week when they fix it.

I just had to take a break to tweet. I'm going to tweet through it. You know, that's what I do. I tweet. Okay. Well, yeah, no, that's insane. Okay. So address of the show in there, please. The question is, what are they going to do with Clemson and that SEC cluster? Like, that's the number one remaining thing. Because I think we feel good about Indiana is going to be in. I don't know what we do with the loser of the ACC Championship game if Clemson beats South Carolina. That's how they're going to screw like they're going to screw somebody and they're either going to screw Clemson.

I don't know if it's even screwing Clemson. It's they've gotten Clemson's hopes up now. And they're going to pull the rug out from under him probably But they also could maybe not pull the rug out from under Clemson, but pull the rug out from under the ACC runner-up So somebody just tweeted this and I don't know who this human is but it's interesting if Clemson beats, South Carolina Are we getting ready for a debate between Clemson beats South Carolina, are we getting ready for a debate between Clemson and Indiana? Where Clemson has one extra loss,

Indiana got blown out by Ohio State the same way that they did against the top 15 men that Indiana doesn't have. Had not even thought about that. It's possible. Because Clemson's schedule stinks, but their strength of schedule, I believe, is higher than Indiana's. Let's go check that out. I believe it is. Indiana jumped into the 50s this week. Let's not forget.

Yeah, thanks. Thank you, Ohio State. Yeah. But that also is a 57 on the oh they're below Indiana on strength schedule on ESPN yeah I mean they're both booied by blowout losses so I mean it's like like their strength of schedule means nothing to me because they're they're bumped up by teams that blew them out but Indiana finishing without a single quality win and we know the committee cares about quality wins more than losses, like beating South Carolina might be a better bullet point than Indiana has left, but Indiana has one fewer loss. So what matters more to you, the extra win in the ACC or Indiana with one loss in the Big Ten? I take the, I want the quality wins. I want to know you could actually compete if you get in the playoff And what tells me you can compete in the playoff is if you've beaten a team that could be in the playoff Which is why I would go with somebody who's actually beaten a team in the playoff which is neither of those teams

But who do you take between Clemson and Indiana? Who's your team? Who's your horse? Yes, Indiana. I don't feel great about either one. But see, okay, this is part of it though. Everybody down here has problems. If they didn't have problems, they wouldn't be down here. That's the point.

We have to get ready to debate like all these teams are after thoughts. Last year, we were debating or debating. Like twenty two, twenty two teams capable of making the playoff. There are twenty two teams capable of making the playoff. There are 22 teams capable of making the playoff you did the list your list even it didn't even occur to me though that Clemson could be an at large till right now. Well, guess what we watched their their TV show and now we're gonna watch their TV show next week. Yeah. Electric.

You know, that's my word. That's electric. So you watch their TV show next week. Yeah. Electric. That's my word. That's electric. So you watch our TV show. Well, you could put it on your TV. You can cast it to your TV. Tomorrow, 930 AM Eastern time, we'll talk more about this. We've got our Wendy's Sausiest Takes of the Week. We're also going to do James Franklin on Thanksgiving food. Speaking of electric,

we're going to talk about Ari's Mac Brown column because Mac Brown got fired at the end of our show today. We have a lot to talk about Time. We'll sleep on this. I'm up, even saws here.