Andy & Ari On3 - College Football Week 10 INSTANT REACTION | Oklahoma-Tennessee, USC-Nebraska, SMU-Miami, Vandy-Texas

Episode Date: November 2, 2025

After an action packed Saturday slate in week 10, it's time to instantly react to all the action from today. Join Andy Staples and Ari Wasserman at 11:30 PM ET LIVE as the guys recap a loaded day of a games here:(0:00) On Tonight's Instant Reaction(1:05) BetMGM(2:55) Intro: CFB Week 10 Instant Reaction(3:46) #18 Oklahoma 33, #14 Tennessee 27(9:17) Perception of Big Ten vs SEC(11:33) #23 USC 21, Nebraska 17(19:10) Thank you to Modelo!(21:08) #1 Ohio State 38, Penn State 14(22:30) Kentucky 10, Auburn 3(27:09) #5 Georgia 24, Florida 20(33:30) #20 Texas 34, #9 Vanderbilt 31(39:51) The mess in the ACC, CFP Discussion(48:10) #12 Notre Dame 25, Boston College 10(53:33) SMU 26, #10 Miami 20 (OT)(54:50) Playoff Locks: Ohio State, Indiana, Ole Miss(55:40) Top playoff contenders(59:35) Modelo(1:00:14) What Andy & Ari saw in Penn State-Ohio State(1:03:27) Minnesota 23, Michigan State 20 (OT)(1:04:40) Nitpicking the Top 10(1:12:00) Thanks for watching! A huge show you won't want to miss! Our show is presented by BetMGM! If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works: 1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB.2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game.3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sureyou use bonus code CFB when you sign up! Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary. See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US). Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This show is also sponsored by Modelo! Some things in life are just made for each other. Peanut Butter and jelly. Macaroni andcheese. Modelo and college football. If you’re watching this, it means you live and breathe football. All season long. You know what that makes you? A Full-Time Fan. Which means you deserve a Modelo. Because football wouldn’t be the same without you. Modelo is the official beer sponsor of The College Football Playoff. Watch our show on YouTube! https://youtube.com/live/Sg_aYj7gwIQ Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Interested in partnering with the show? Email [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On tonight's instant reaction show presented by BetMGM, we talk about Oklahoma winning an elimination game. Auburn losing a loser-leaves town match, USC winning on the road at Nebraska, Georgia Tech getting his first loss at NC State, Georgia surviving Florida. What else we got, Ari? I don't know what else do we have I'm terrible at this uh we have vandy vandy losing at texas bandy didn't beat texas vandy losing at texas uh yeah no we we have a lot of stuff so uh it was a i thought it was a revelatory day and we're going to have a lot of philosophical discussions that i'm going to drag you into tonight um oh boy the crap out of another team i don't know if i'm fired up for the big ten i've been firing my people on uh on twitter today so

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Don't forget, if you haven't signed up for Bed-MGM yet, use the bonus code CFB and get your $1,500 first bet offer today. presented by BetMGM, and I might have spoken prematurely, Ari, when I said Oklahoma won an elimination game in Knoxville, because when I said it, it hadn't happened yet. Tennessee scored a grab-ass touchdown, onside kicked. Now Oklahoma has recovered the onside kick, so they will win an elimination game in Knoxville. I just want to apologize to you and the audience for that rough start on my part. That was not my best moment. That was tremendous. Yeah. We are jam-packed. tonight. I don't know if we came into the weekend, Andy, feeling like there were a ton of major matchups, but I thought we learned a lot about the entire context of the sport today. So I'm super excited to get in it. Do you want to just start right where we just left off here in Knoxville?

Yes, let's do that. Mike in the chat says today feels like college football's version of moving day in golf. And that's exactly right. So it feels like a Saturday where basically whoever's going to make their move to make the playoff is making their move. And you see that. And then the ones who maybe aren't going to factor in, they fall to the wayside. Like, oh, I didn't mention this in the preview, Miami losing to SMU. Right. Like that's maybe a fall to the wayside, although we have to talk about Notre Dame's Miami problem. Yeah.

Because that's another really interesting subplot to today's games. But let us start in Knoxville, where Oklahoma, that's a huge win for the seniors. That really wasn't. You know, the way the thing started already, it felt like Tennessee was dominating offensively. Oklahoma gets the strip sack, the R. Mason Thomas touchdown. If they don't get that, I think that game probably goes differently

and gets away from them. You know, there was a certain point in the first half where I think Oklahoma was outgained by like 200 yards. It was like 250 or 240 to 36, and they were only losing by three. Yeah. And it kind of, you got the feeling there that, you know, Tennessee wasn't able to pull away

and that Oklahoma was going to hang around and hang around. and then Oklahoma started punching, you know, because you're not going to have 70 total yards of offense. You're going to finally figure it out, and Oklahoma did that. And Tennessee shot itself in the foot a few times. They left the door open. They could have slammed it shut, you know, on that scoop and score. They were, you know, flirting with the red zone there.

They were about to go up by two scores, and all of a sudden it's a tie game and the snap of a finger. Like, you can't win games like that in conference that's this, that's close together. So, like, I wrote during the week, Andy, that this was an elimination game. I think that's only partially true because, if Oklahoma would have lost, they still, I think, would have had a chance. I don't think they're getting at nine. At nine and three.

I mean, I just like, when I say elimination, though, I like to be like, you're out. Like Tennessee, like, it doesn't matter now because Oklahoma ended up winning the game. They're certainly still alive. Tennessee, I believe, is now out. They don't have really the quality wins on the schedule to, to have any shot at a nine and three getting in the playoffs. So they're out. Xavier Robinson for Oklahoma, 16 carries 115 yards, one TD. Oklahoma, did they find a run game?

Yeah, absolutely. You know, I thought that they looked really good, you know, physically in this game. I thought that they were balanced. They were the team that did. Now, John Meteer threw a pretty bad interception when they were up nine late to leave the door open a little bit for Tennessee to try to come back in the game. But for the most part, I don't really recall Oklahoma really making any backbreaking mistakes the way that. No, and the interception was a deflection and there's not much you can do about that. It wasn't a terrible throw.

So this was, this was a. a really great game by Oklahoma because they took the punch they took the first punch and they kept punching back and they didn't quit and that was a tough environment I mean what Tennessee did for that dark mode night

the overhead shot of parting of the tea like it was incredible dark mode and then like literally go dark like their team like put their fans in a dark place that night they did put their fans in a dark place and the thing is you know Joey Aguilar we we knew

coming out of Appalachian State that there were gunslinger tendencies and there were gunslinger tendencies that are good and that are bad and two very bad ones two very bad interceptions in this game where he ignored a safety through it into what was basically double coverage and was picked off Andy a subplot of this game that you know I think is important to at least mentioned did Brent Venables he's back next year or not right like that was is that enough I would think so I mean okay if they go O in three the rest of the way, maybe not. But I would assume he's fine.

They have Alabama, Missou and LSU. They're going to win at least one more, and he's going to be fine. But the question is, are they going to be able to win all of them? And if they play the way they play tonight, they have a chance.

Yeah. So I know that we thought that nine and three wouldn't get them in. And I think that you're probably right because if you look at their schedule, you know, the best wins at nine and three would have been, you know, Tennessee, really, in Michigan.

This assumes a loss to Alabama. Yeah, right. I'm just saying, but they are probably a win next weekend away from punching their ticket. Like, that's how quickly that, right? If they beat Bama when they play? No, they still have to beat Missouri and LSU. And this Oklahoma team has not shown us that they can definitely do that.

Yeah, it can do that. You know, I feel like if they beat Alabama, the odds of them losing to both of the next two games are probably pretty low. OU's off next week. Then they play at Bama. Bama will have just played LSU. So it's going to be really interesting to watch Oklahoma the rest of the way. Because that version we saw tonight, if that run game is real,

if it's something that they can. Now, Tennessee's defensive line got depleted. It might have been that that was just what they could do to them and not necessarily what they could do to everybody. But we're going to find out against Alabama. If they're running the ball effectively against Alabama, then there's a good chance they can do that against just about anybody. Yeah. I mean, I think that we're finding out, too, that you can.

And, like, we'll get through this throughout the week leading up to this, Andy. But, like, I think you're going to figure out, I've caught onto this that, like, there was nobody in the SEC that's just going to completely shut everybody down. Like, there's nobody rising above the rest of them, in my opinion, outside of A&M and maybe Alabama. And we'll find out, I guess, how Oklahoma stands up. But I want to segue to the other game that was tonight, which is the USC Nebraska game. And before we start talking about that game, I want to ask you a specific question. Okay. I've been thinking about this all night.

I got into an argument with our editor about it over text while we were watching the games. Okay. What is the fundamental difference between the USC Nebraska game in the way that it's viewed between two six and two teams, one of which is ranked in the other game between six and two that had the entire country's attention tonight? The Oklahoma Tennessee game has more future NFL players on the field. Okay. So you think that we're still in this world where like Oklahoma would facing USC would be. like a Oklahoma automatic win? Absolutely not.

Okay, do you think that Tennessee playing USC would be an automatic thing? Absolutely not. Do you think that either of those teams playing Nebraska would be an automatic win? Nope. So, like, that's the point I'm making you.

Like, there's more, I just, I feel like there is this thought process. Like, listen, the SEC might very well be deeper and better than the Big Ten. I don't know. If you haven't paid attention, I've been really shitty at picking games this year.

I had another awful day on Saturday. You actually, you're awful. Terrible this week. Are you sure? the pitch show i lost every you're going to be over you're going to be over 500 what i think you are really yeah i lost the south carolina game at the end i lost oh you oh did you did you south carolina that's an owl oh what a dummy yeah so i know it's not good never mind so like i don't want to play like listen like i feel like i have kind of become like this like mouthpiece of s c doubt

and i don't want to be that person like i don't know be whatever you want but i'm saying but i don't i don't want to go on record saying that the cc is worse than the big ten what i want to the point as is I think that they're very similar in that. Oh, no shit, Sherlock. We've got eyes. But that's the thing. It doesn't have to be one or the other. You don't have to be like, the Big Ten's better than the SEC. See the SEC propaganda machine? You can say, but I don't think the SEC ain't that great at the top. The Big Ten's way better at the top. And that's how this year's playing out. But I just like, I want, I'm happy that we're talking

about Nebraska and USC this high up on the show because I want the rest of the country to take the same credence that they do in the result. It's the same game. Like they're both six and two. We agree that. Yeah, USC is still in the hunt. Nebraska's not. That was an elimination game for both of them. And it was a great, it was a very close game. Nebraska played a lot better than I thought they were going to play in that game. And USC probably played a little worse. But Nebraska was playing defensively the way you have to play to beat USC. They just couldn't make enough plays offensively, probably after Dylan R. L. got hurt. Yeah. It was the issue. And now we're, And if people weren't watching the game, like, he might be done for the year, right?

Like, that was a, I don't want to speculate. I'm not, I'm not the TV doctor. Yeah, I'm not the TV doctor either, and I'm pretty bad at doing that, too. But he rolled up on the back of his knee pretty bad, and he didn't come back in the game. So, like, you know, the fact is that Nebraska was probably pretty emotionally deflated by losing their leader very early in the second half there. But, like, USC now is in a position where they're going to be playing Oregon in a really important game for the Big Ten and how that all shape. shapes up. So, yeah, you're skipping over the USC Iowa game that is going to be very, very important.

Iowa plays Oregon next week, by the way. This is not going to be an easy road for USC by any stretch. They have two games against potential playoff teams that they would have to win. So if they were to do it, they would make the playoff for sure if they went out. Yeah. And I guess assuming USC would beat Iowa's a bad mistake. Why would you assume that? I just said it was a mistake.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, Northwest. in Iowa, assuming that they were going to beat Iowa. But I've been kind of having my evil eyes on this USC Oregon game for a month now. So I don't know. Yeah, you need to put the, you need to adjust them to the USC Iowa game. Yeah.

I wonder what the spread of that game is going to be. I guess we'll talk about that tomorrow. No, we won't. They don't play it next week. Man, if you correct me one more time, I'm going upstairs. Seriously. Well, stop getting stuff wrong. Okay.

It rivers up there. I'm going to go hang out with my other friend. You know, it's just like, you know what I mean. So, okay. All right. So. Do we think USC can do this? Nothing I saw tonight gives me confidence that they can.

Nothing that you saw tonight gives you confidence that they can. That they can win out. Oh, really? Okay. I don't think they can. Let's dive into that a little bit more. What was it that stood up? They're just not going to be able.

If they can't score, if that's what they can do against Nebraska offensively, they're going to really struggle against Iowa and Oregon. Yeah, for sure. It was crazy because, like, I feel like half of what you said came true. like they were running the ball really, really well in that game. But they kept shooting themselves in the foot. Yeah. Because I was like, I was with you on that.

Like, you and I picked the same side in this game. And I thought that USC was going to have a much more potent aerial attack to complement the way they were running the ball. They ran the ball really well, but it didn't really feel like the entire game they were able to get. Yeah, it's interesting because they would get the, you know, they'd have these gash runs that they would get first downs on. And then they would just get these awful down in distance.

They just couldn't string them together. And they strung them together. enough to win the game and that deserves to be commended it just against a better defense which iwas is probably going to be a just a better fundamentally sound defense and organ's going to be a more athletic defense you're going to have to you're going to have to do better than that yeah yeah iowa's last three games were pretty impressive um and they have iowa's reward for getting back into the playoff discussion is back-to-back games against oregon u.s exactly let me go on record right now technically was certainly wrong the way you pointed out that you know that would be

an automatic win i'm basically willing to bet whatever you want to bet that they're not going to and oh in the next stretch so we'll see probably if they do Kirk farrens is back in the biggest possible way like the to think about the bean bag on that guy if he pulls that off but exactly um no i i feel like USC should be safe when they play northwestern on november 17 they get an open week like you said they play northwestern if they're able to beat that iowa team they're hosting them, which I think is a big distinction in that, in that game. Right. If they were going to Iowa, I'd be a little bit more scared.

I still think that USC, like, their offense, I'm not completely off board with. I still think that they're a very potent offense. I don't know what it was. Nebraska, too, you know, they had the blackout thing going. They're wearing the black shirt stuff. They had the black balloons. Maybe there was something in the crowd that Tennessee lacked. I don't know what it was.

Their offense just didn't seem to be clicking this evening, but I haven't given up that their offense is we're going to be able to score. on Iowa. Now, Iowa, they're a wagon all of a sudden. They figured out how to score too. But, you know, USC should be really excited about its placement. And I think that they are much better, obviously, than I gave them credit for coming into the year. And I should be hesitant to go all the way back into them because they will probably break my heart. But they're, they're a really pretty good team. I'm curious for the Nebraska fans in the chat, because I wondered how they'd feel about the Matt Rule extension if they lost this game. But I don't feel like this was

a bad loss. I mean, they were in the game. They lost their starting quarterback. It didn't seem like it was, they were outclassed. No. You know, I, it wouldn't bother me at all. Do you know how I view it? If you were to take Nebraska fans and show them the tape of this game a week after he was hired and just say, this is going to be year three, this is what it's going to look like. Now, they lose their quarterback. I know that you obviously would want to see a win in year three looking forward, but didn't that look like a pretty tough, competent team? And like the other thing that, you know, we discussed too is that we felt that Nebraska wasn't really up to playing a physical game. I thought they played very physically in this.

Yeah. So like, again, the Matt Rule thing is going to be litigated and then relitigated for quite some time now because the extension came right before a loss for sure. But I still look at the rest of their schedule. And I think that UCLA and Penn State is manageable. It's tough, but manageable. I think if they get to nine and three, that's a profound success. If they get to eight and four, I think it's takeable. Yes. Because you've still improved every year under Matt Rule. And I thought the team that

was on the field tonight was a really solid team. Was about the best I've seen the defense looked this year. I agree. Like, I don't feel like you go to bed tonight in Lincoln, upset. Now, obviously, moral victories are only going to get you so far in this world. And in year four, we might be, like, if this is year four, then we're having a different discussion.

but in terms of like real tangible improvement on what you're getting from your program, not your team, not an individual game, maybe not even the year, but your program, I think, is much healthier now than it was a few years ago. And if you do really well in the portal and bring some guys in that can make a difference next year and Dylan Rayola hopefully is okay, you know, hopefully is okay within the next few weeks, let alone next year has a big off season. You can come in next year and actually anticipate maybe potentially competing for a playoff spot.

And I think that's healthy. Let's say they finish eight and four. that's the trajectory they'd be on because they took, you know, incremental improvement. Didn't make a bowl. They won five games, didn't make a bowl the first year. Yeah. Made a bowl the second year.

I think perspective and the ability to zoom out is really important. I think like we always get so interested in like the macro or the micro results of an individual season. We look at games. We look at certain quarters and we go, oh my God. Yeah. But if you zoom out and you just try to maintain like rational perspective, like I think a Nebraska fan should feel comfortable.

with the way they're going. Now, the extension, maybe we'll look back in three years and go, well, Penn State wasn't going to hire them. I don't know how it's going to turn out. Things go off the rails all the time in the sport, but based on when they sign the contract and where they are right now, I go to bed feeling pretty good about it. No longer the man in the chat says Julian State is the best QB Ohio State has ever had paired with the greatest wide receivers to ever play and no one is talking about it. Okay. No one's talking. There's a lot wrong with that. But I want to point no longer to the man to a video we did earlier in the day, and it's also in the podcast feed, we were at the Ohio State Nebraska game. We were in the morning. We did a show at the Medello

activation. Which felt like yesterday, by the way, but yeah. Yeah, I mean, well, in 11 minutes, it will have been yesterday. But we did talk all about how good Julian saying is, how good Jeremy Smith is, how good Cornell Tate is. So if you want a deeper discussion of that game and where Ohio State is and how good Julian Say it is, then I would point. point you to that video after this one. I would watch the rest of this one. Yeah, this one's the one right now. But I also want to thank the folks at Modelo for having us out.

We had a blast with all the full-time fans of Ohio State. And it was so much fun. We had people come by and say hi. And we had a couple. And she's a doctor and he's a lawyer. Yeah. They were going to a wedding, actually. Yeah.

Somebody scheduled a wedding in Columbus on the day that Penn State. Ohio State game. But they had to go because this couple met at their wedding. So you had to do it. We were joking because the groom and bride of their wedding were so relieved when James Franklin got fired because they were off the hook for scheduling their wedding

on the worst weekend in the fall Saturday in Columbus. But that is what Madelo does. It brings people together, gives you a chance to crack a beer and talk and have fun and just enjoy each other. And I really had a great time meeting folks today. Really nice build out. Really good

really good setup. They had the beer. It was great. And we're doing it again in a few weeks. Yeah, we'll be doing it at the Texas, Georgia game. So before the Texas Georgia game in Athens, we don't know what kickoff time is for that game yet, but we'll be there before the game, and we'll be at the Modelo activation. And they have these activations at their various schools that they work with. And so they do one before every home game in Ohio State. And it's so cool. So if you get a chance, head to the Medello activation, but also when you're at the store, grab yourself in a Della State game. ready all season long and yes if you want to hear about the greatness of julian saying no longer

the man in the chat then we have that video for you because three quick things on that comment one go for it get out of here with my overreactions that's my bit not yours the greatest quarterback they've ever had that's insane maybe one day we'll have that conversation we're not having it today yeah they have two of the best receivers in the sport that they've ever had that's true but three no one's talking about it everybody's talking they're number one in the country for a reason yeah i think every we're talking about it and it was a pretty pretty big press box that was filled it was it was an it was an impressive show because every time penn state even breathed a breath of hope julian saying found either carnell tate or jeremiah smith and stuck a dagger in their

hearts yeah i guess there was this bit that was happening with mina kimes last week where another person who breaks down NFL tape said it's impossible to break quarters defense with a single player. And then Jeremiah Smith did it and it like made its way into. They're like, see, it is possible for a single player to break quarters defense. Look, he did it. And I don't know if that's like making the point or showing you how big of an alien. He counts his four players. Yeah, I don't know.

But yeah, there's a lot on Ohio State, longer video. We both, or I wrote something. I think Chris Lowe wrote something. Andy will probably be writing something here in the future. Go check it out plenty of coverage from that game today. do we want to go to the bad news sure i love bad news let's go to the bad news jordan harris stadium oh boy oberton alabama oh boy kentucky beat auburn 10 to 3 in a game that hugh free's had to have this was a loser leaves town match now what would have caused mark

stoop's to have to leave town i'm not entire i think it would have to be a complete blowout it would have had to been that yeah playing a close game when you're a 10 and a half point underdog i don't think would have done the trick but it certainly the worst thing that could have possibly happened to Hugh Freeze is he changes quarterbacks twice, he doesn't score a touchdown, and he loses to a team that had not won an SEC play since last September. Do you watch HBO's high quality Sunday night programming? Yes, we're going to talk about task. No, are we going to talk, we're going to talk about Chernobyl. Have you seen that? I have not seen that. Was it not on TV tonight? I don't know. I don't know.

you were watching that was a that was something like what's the word is disaster strong enough a disaster piece that was a disaster piece yeah that was like what that has to be the word disaster piece has to be the word for doing the worst possible thing at the worst possible time in the most beautiful way let me just put it this way if my four-year-old daughter were in the room i would have taken her upstairs like i would not want her exposed to that starting ashton daniels was fine he won you a game last week yeah but then replacing him with jackson arnold then pulling Jackson Arnold for Ashton Daniels again. Jake is like, why are we talking about Auburn, Kentucky?

Because a high profile SEC coach might get fired. Yeah. That's an important. Yeah, that's a pretty big deal. I don't know what you're hoping for, but that's one of the bigger stories of the day, I think. So, you know, and I don't know if that's happening tomorrow, but I want to review this very minute.

It could be happening at this moment. I don't know what he's doing. I'm not there. But, Andy, we talked about this week and we said, you know, this was a loser. go home game for sure, right? But we also spoke about how Hugh Freeze had so much more to lose by losing this game than Mark Stoops.

Mark Stoops could have lost this game. I don't think that his like life just got incrementally better in Lexington, but like the the optics of losing this game at home for Hugh Freeze is infinitely worse than it would have been had the score been flip. And that way he lost. I mean, you can't lose that way when you're the offensive guru and your, offense hasn't worked in pretty much the entire time you've been there because he was a good offensive coach at liberty no miss his offense has worked but now i'm like i'm actually starting

to wonder if the quarterback's ever even been the problem at this point like you know i know that they had issues last year that were personnel based but based on the options that they had coming into the year we're absolving patent thorne we're absolving yeah absolving jackson arnold and absolving Ashton Daniels now. I mean, I don't know about Peyton Thorne and the guys last year. Obviously, you know, the number one critique of what he did wrong a year ago was not being more aggressive in upgrading the personnel. But now he spent a lot of time and Auburn spent a lot of money bringing in three options. Now we've exhausted two. The third one, obviously, being Deuce Knight, who was a high school signee. I don't know how ready if at all he's to play.

I would guess not. Like, if he were, I think we would have seen him by now. But, like, last year's offenses were inept and they turned the ball over a lot. I watched a lot of Auburn football last year. I don't remember it ever looking as bad as it did tonight. Because they were close in games and they would make a terrible mistake. This was terrible. Yeah. Now, it's actually kind of similar to the Vanderbilt game that they lost at home last year

where they just couldn't score. I think they only scored six points in that game. I think of taking away their crown though, like their crown of being the best bad. Oh, they are not the best bad. They're bad. There's so many more good bad teams than Auburn. I don't know what's happening there. But like, so do you think this is it?

Was that it for him? It's got to be, right? I just don't see, I don't see any path forward at this point. There's, there's no way forward. There's nothing he can do. He's completely lost faith of the fan base. Like, is Cam Coleman on the team next year? Well, it depends on who they hire.

I mean, I guess. They get 34 yards receiving. I'm looking at the statistics, 241. They actually outgained Kentucky by. one yard funny enough um but yeah 123 yards passing ashton daniels 13 to 28 interception 108 passing yards at home let's go to jacksonville let's do it because i have a feeling we're going to talk about arbor a significant amount on sunday yeah so let's go to jacksonville now we can argue about whether it was a catch or not but i think more important is florida showed

Science of Life under an interim staff. Georgia still figured out a way to win. Can Georgia keep doing this? Our friend Seth Emerson at the Athletic, that's the story he wrote. Can they keep doing it? As good as this was and as happy as they are to have been able to figure out how to win a other game. This has a shelf life, does it not? Okay, well, I think you could probably make the case that they've already gotten through the most difficult portion of their SEC schedule.

Right. What they have left here is Mississippi State. They're playing at home against Texas and what could be an elimination game. Certainly. And we'll talk about Texas in a minute. Charlotte, that shouldn't be a problem. And then Georgia Tech looks a lot less difficult now than it did when we woke up this morning. Still going to be a difficult game. I think Georgia Tech will be up and ready for that game.

Everybody has bad games. They were undefeated. They lost their first game. They gave 50, though. Oh, yeah. To NC State. Yeah, State dropped the 50 burger on them. But you know how Georgia Tech's going to come out in that game.

It's not going to be an easy game. One, they don't have to keep doing this. I think Georgia can lose again and be fine. Yes. And two, that's the interesting thing about the conference in general, because you play three consecutive games, Auburn, you would agree that they could have lost. They could have been down 17, nothing,

had a ref made a different call. Correct. They still shut down Auburn for an entire half of football, but still could have lost. The Ole Miss game, they gave up five touchdowns drives on five possessions for Ole Miss. they ended up winning that game offense looked great scored 43 points but still you know conceivably could have lost that game yep and then of course tonight against florida they could have lost it if i mean if the j michael sturdivant thing is ruled a catch it doesn't automatically mean georgia would have lost the game a really high point of contention and i think we should spend 30 seconds sure yeah yeah but j michael sturdivant laid out for a ball that was underthrown right right and he his arms were extended and the rule of on the field wasn't in complete pass.

Yes. But it did appear in the video evidence that he did get his arms underneath. Right. The ball just hit his arms and it looked like it didn't hit the ground. Now, there are still images that make it look like the ball is bouncing off the ground. There are still images that can make it look like however you want to make it look. Yeah. The point is, is that I think if I had to guess that it was probably a catch, I think that you would probably agree. That was my first instinct watching it.

But with the way that the rule is. set up, you have to understand that the call on the field was an incomplete pass. If you're looking at the video evidence, it has to be indisputable in order to overturn it. Now, you might think he caught it. You might be pretty sure that he caught it, but nobody knows through the video evidence that it was 100% not because his arms were spread open. The tip of the ball could have conceivably through your low pixeled picture hit the ground. So I think that the refs actually made the correct call, although it's a frustrating one.

Well, they were going to uphold whatever they called on the field. Whether they called it a catch or not a catch, they were going to uphold it. And the reason why the rule is built that way, Andy, obviously, is because you have to give credence to what the refs saw right in front of his face, too. Like, it's not like just the video evidence with poor angles. It felt like this is a brooder film. Like, we are, we have to, like, at least respect what the ref saw live, too. So, you know, like, I agree 100%. If it would have been ruled a catch on the field, I think it would remain to catch.

Yeah. There was nothing in the video evidence that unequivocally showed one way or the other, whether it was or wasn't, which is why it didn't get overturned. Now, as for Zombie, Florida, coached by Billy Gonzalez, Ryan O'Hara calling plays, I think they did a good job. They simplified things for the offense. They weren't doing as many shifts in motions. It looked like they made it a little bit easier for DJ Lagway to operate the offense. Yeah. And they were playing against a good team.

This is a team, remember, that played poorly enough to fire its coach, that had four losses coming into the game. And there were still some head scratching, like, oh, come on, don't be Florida moments at the end. And it looked like for a while they were going to win the game and they didn't, which I think has been the hallmark of the frustration. Like, I think that it felt kind of similar. That was a, like, Florida's a good team when they're playing well. Right. They're just not ever playing well for four quarters. Right.

I would be worried if I were Ole Miss, if I had lost another game. But I'm not sure Ole Miss is going to have fewer or more than one lost when they play. Yeah, and Florida has a pretty tough schedule. Obviously, we've referenced it a lot. I want to look at who they have left. Kentucky, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida State. Now, it doesn't really matter anymore because Texas is out.

Oh, congratulations to Florida State. Whip it up on Wake Forest. Yeah, big way. They're back in a big way. If I were Ole Miss, I would be a little nervous, but as you pointed out, that won't be an elimination game for them. They've only lost once. But I do think Florida's going to at least win one more of these.

Maybe two of them. If you count Florida State as a win, I don't know. that might just be a well in Kentucky they get next week Kentucky's coming off the win I don't know if Kentucky uses that as a as a momentum thing as a springboard kind of thing or if they get fat and happy and oh we we want a game it's great let's celebrate I we'll find out we'll find out it does make Florida though does feel like with the right coach and this absolute roster that they could be much better than they are they just don't play yes they don't play sound good functional football for

quarters ever even to make producer river the volfer life uh is is mentioning that the tennessee most likely will lose in the swamp to florida i can't imagine how he arrived at that opinion right now he's a little down right now he's he's working his way through it he's producing through it but those happy tissues or sad tissues they're sad ones tonight we'll point out that yes tennessee is not one in the swamp since 2003 uh ranzook was involved all right that let's stay in the SEC Ron Zook was involved would be a great band name

yes yes going to see Ron Zook was involved I used to see Ron Zook was involved when they played coffee shops now they're playing arenas all right Yanni in the chat says talk about how overrated Pavia lost to a bad Texas team

well let's talk about the Texas okay Vanderbilt game good segue Texas looked amazing for three quarters and then almost blew it Andy I'm gonna ask you a good I'm a good faith question. Yes, okay.

By the way, we have kind of a banger of a World Series game that's going on right now. Is it cheating to be kind of paying attention to that while we're talking about? No. No, championships being decided right now. We're in extra innings, and this one might go 18. We'll see. Texas, good faith question. I'm not trying to antagonize you.

By the way. Well, the one thing that I did write this week was my emergency flip-flop pick, my Mulligan. Yeah, good choice. Vanderbilt in Texas. By the way, almost found a way to not cover that one, too. It was three and a half at the beginning of the week. I pushed it. Yeah, I pushed the three. So, that's me and his money. Training schedule after a bye week is at Georgia, Arkansas, in Texas, A&M. They only have one loss in SEC play. Do you think, and I dare to dream, I dare to ask you, and I know the chat's probably going to buzz when I ask you this, that they can backdoor their way into the SEC.

title game. No. You don't think so. No, I think they're going to lose to Georgia and or A&M. Okay, because if you are in the, now, okay, I'm looking at the last four wins. They've assembled. It's sandwiched by a win over Oklahoma, which looks much bad now. That looked great, yep. And a win over

Vanderbilt, which I think we have a ton of respect. That looks good to. The middle of the sand. It's a shit sandwich. Like, there's no way to code. It's Kentucky and Mississippi State. So, that would not be a high quality sub of a sandwich, but like they've won four in a row. Like they've won four in a row.

And while they were at the lowest of lows, they have at least figured out a way to win. And they could have lost the Kentucky and they could have lost the Mississippi State. And they are dangerous. And I do think there's a really good chance they win one of the Georgia or Texas A&M. They scored 34 points. Archmanning went 25 of 33 for 328 yards and three touchdowns. They gave up 21 unanswered points in the fourth quarter while we were in the press conference of the news.

Like we went downstairs. It was 34 to 10. And then all of a sudden, I'm watching an onside kick that I didn't. So they kind of folded there at the end. I think they probably got fat and happy, thought they won the game and tried to get out of there. Obviously, Vanderbilt and Pavia are kind of, you know, they're plucky. Yeah. But they just beat a top 10 team at home.

They've won games against two teams that were ranked in the top 10 at the time of which that they were playing. And, like, Oklahoma might still be a top 15 team. And they beat the crap out of them. Like, do you have any faith? Because listen. They still have a lot of good players, too, that Sarkesian figured something out today. Yeah. And that they are hot at the right time.

They get a week off to think about some things. And they go on the road to what's going to be an electric SEC game in two weeks that we're going to be lovingly able to go to. It's going to be a lot of fun. I can't wait. But like the spread might be three and a half or something, right? Like that's not going to be. I don't think it's going to be three. I think it's probably going to be Georgia by six because it is on the road.

And remember, this is the same. Texas seen the loss of Florida. That hasn't changed. The Dodgers just hit a home run on the top of the 11th. Here we go. Will Smith who made the final out in the night.

I didn't see it. I just saw him running the bat. We won't do that again. I know this is a college football show, but we're excited. Also, there is college football going on right now. Utah's up 24-7 on Cincinnati at halftime. We'll get back to the Texas thing in a second,

But watching this Utah thing, we'll see what Utah does. If Utah pulls a Texas and since he comes back, it's different. But if Utah continues this. But if Texas beats Georgia on the road, man, we are fully back in like Texas could win the national title mode, right? Which I think is crazy because it goes against everything that I think. Right. If they can win at Georgia, they can beat A&M at home.

Georgia is good. They're 7 and 1. Their offense is good. they've won four in a row since losing a close game against Alabama. Georgia also was single-handedly propping up Tennessee and Ole Miss's resumes. Like you're playing Georgia, if you win or play them close, that makes you look good. I do not think that Georgia is good enough to prop up anyone's resume, but it will be interesting the way that if Texas goes out and wins that game,

because Georgia's good, not great. If Texas plays a great game, they can absolutely win that game. if they win that game the perception of who Texas is right or wrong i think it's wrong because i don't believe that georgia should be powerful enough to do that for you but it does it still does until proven otherwise texas will be right back in the top 10 if they win that game right they will yes at that point they will be in the top 10 because so many other teams will have hit two losses or will have not had any quality wins so yes they will and by the way this little stat line that we're just probably going to overlook

because he's played poorly this year, 25 for 33 for three touchdowns and 328 yards passing. I guess the top 10 team at home was what I thought was going to get him in New York at the beginning of the year. Well, can we also talk about Texas gave up 365 passing yards to Diego Pavia? We sure can. Gunner Stockton is going to

light them up. I was getting a little tired of Diego Pavia talking about how he deserved the Heisman after throwing for 109 yards. And then he comes out and throws for 365 and he had a pretty good game today. And a lot of that was in the fourth quarter while they're playing catch up but um yeah like texas defense is the thing that i thought the reason why i i switched my bet i thought that the game was going to be like 17 to 10 or something i didn't think that they

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I certainly can't make one person happy, let alone all of you. So. All right. Let's go to the ACC because the ACC is comment. The ACC is a mess. Yeah, it is. On Saturday night, we watched NC State clobber Georgia Tech. Did you look this up? Do you know who's leading it right now?

Virginia. Okay. So you knew that. I wouldn't have known that. Which has lost to NC State, but in a game that does not count in the ACC standings because they scheduled as an out-of-conference game so they could play each other. That is the ACC in a nutshell right there. College football in a nutshell right there. The only loss from the team that is leading the ACC is to another ACC team, but it is not an ACC loss. There are six teams in the ACC at the moment that have one or fewer losses in conference play in Miami is not one of them. Yes. So that's where we're at. Yes. Miami went to

SMU, which had just lost at Wake Forest. Uh-huh. And Miami lost in overtime. Now, you can complain about the officiating. You can complain about the late hit call after the whistle, after the timeout that kept that SMU drive alive. But... You also have to admit that Carson Beck threw a crippling interception at the worst possible time. And that was something that the Georgia people warned you about. Yeah. So there's that. But then you've got Georgia Tech that came into the game undefeated.

They had lived dangerously. Georgia Tech probably should have lost to Wake Forest. So they come into the NC State game. NC State has a good quarterback in C.J. Bailey. But Hollywood Smothers was out. Justin Jolie was out. It didn't look good for NC State coming in. of the game and you know i had dave doran on my hot seat rankings during the week because

they've they've slid a little bit they're not where they should be yeah but they looked awesome they looked great jaden scott the freshman 24 carries for 196 yards in a touchdown yeah they they went through them like goat shit through a tin horn we don't know what that means but nix haven said it so we're going to say it too do me a favor if you're out there will you Google or explain to me, email me, whatever, however you want to get in touch with me, what a tin horn is and how it's used? Isn't it the 10 horn like the thing you put in the old times instead of a hearing aid, they'd put it in their ears so they could hear stuff?

I don't know what that means. It sounds like something from the Wizard of Oz. That's the 10 man. I know, but he had a pretty big horn too. I haven't watched Wicked in a while, so I don't know. But like here's the deal with the ACC, Andy. Virginia, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, Louisville, SMU, all with one or fewer losses.

I don't even know who these teams play. A lot of them don't play each other. So, like, this is going to be a tiebreaker. Yeah, Pittsburgh is just hanging out there. Mason Heinzschel came in as the starting quarterback five games ago. Five games ago, yes, they're now five and oh with him starting. Pitt has two ACC games left. Do you know who they are?

Okay. This is fun. You're not supposed to know. Miami? Yeah, that's one. I knew they played Miami. Yeah. Virginia Tech

Georgia Tech So they played too Okay all right Maybe there is going to be some cleaning up Yeah But like I guess the question here is do you think that the like coming into today And this is a good segue to your Notre Dame discussion Coming into the day it felt like Miami was going to win out

Or they at least controlled their own destiny to the college football playoffs But not to the ACC Yeah So you you would thought that the ACC had a damn good shot of maybe getting two or even potentially three teams in if the committee approaches championship weekend the way that it did last year, which is rewarding the participants even if they lost. Now that that clears up the Miami discussion, because in Miami, they're not out by any stretch of the imagination, but they're not in a pretty good position right now.

How many teams does it feel like the ACC is going to get in? Is this muck good for their chances of getting more than two in or more than one in? Or do you think that this is going to clear itself up and are going to be left with one standing? Because it looks like some could knock each other off here toward the end. Virginia's lived fairly dangerously. Yeah. They've played a lot of close games. It'll probably clean itself up, right?

But here, okay, so there's a Notre Dame piece of this discussion, but there's also a Big 12 piece of this discussion. Okay. Because the top of the Big 12, I think, is better than the top of the ACC. And if somebody's going to get two in, it should probably be the Big 12 over the ACC. So do you think that we collectively as a country have spoken? too little like for instance last year when b yu got off to an eight no start i thought that was a pretty big story we're not really like b yu cracked my top 10 tonight for the first time um and they

have a really tough schedule coming down the stretch here like their hardest games are still ahead of well they're they're still undefeated they've beaten utah and texx beat in utah and utah looks like wagon they're beating cincinnati which was previously undefeated in big 12 play do we have to live in a world where we at least acknowledge that the big 12 might have a team or two that could win a game or two in the postseason? Yes. Oh, I look at it now because, like I said, Texas Tech is beaten Utah and BYU is beaten Utah.

But based on what we've seen so far from Texas Tech and from BYU and from Utah, I would feel very comfortable if you told me any of those teams won a game in the playoff. Okay. So this top of the big 12 standings don't look anything as. And Houston lost today, by the way. Yes. So they lost to West Virginia. So Texas Tech and BYU are maybe the biggest game of next weekend.

College Game Day is going to Lubbock for the Texas Tech hosting of the BYU Cougars. But if you look at the Big 12 standings, there's only three teams that have one or fewer losses and everybody else is kind of jangled in the middle there somewhere. Those two teams play each other, which might leave. And Cincinnati is losing right now. Right. So Cincinnati, if this keeps up, Cincinnati and Texas Tech will have an identical conference record. By the end of the next weekend, you're going to have one team standing above the rest at the top of the Big 12.

standings and then a group of six teams that might be fighting to get into the final spot like last year which as you did ended up winning the conference but then i still don't know that i see a path for two teams here i don't know i think i do because i think the cc teams are knock each other off i unless michigan or u sc or i will win out i don't know that the big ten's going to have that other team in there so and i don't and i don't know and i don't know the SEC's going to have like five you mean the fourth team yeah yeah it feels like a pretty unpredictable sport just based on feelings right now it feels like they are a lock to at least have Oregon Ohio state and Indiana in but I don't know if they get anybody else so that'll be

up to to USC or Iowa and you know the top 25 here up on the screen if you're watching to just pay attention to it like I don't know there's no other big 10 team outside of Michigan and SC. But here's what gets really interesting is if Michigan does something with Ohio State at the end of the year beats them at home. Ohio State then I don't even know, because Michigan's only lost once and I don't even know if Ohio

State would go to India if that happened. I don't think they would. So then Michigan and Indiana would play, then you would have Ohio State and Oregon on the outs looking in. Like there's one result right there that could completely get the four teams in. Yes. So like it's like that to me, I think it's a relative certainty. If Michigan, Iowa or

or, excuse me, Michigan, Iowa, USC went out, they will get at least four in. Right. So it seems, I actually think that if there was like a BetMGM line. Actually, that's not true.

That would be the favorite. That's not true. Iowa, it's theoretically possible that Iowa beats USC and they both be Oregon. So that one maybe, but I think Oregon would still get in. I think if I, if my life depended on it right now and I had to choose,

will they get four in or not? I think four is a relative lock. I would, I don't know how it's going to play out, but I think it's going to happen. I see, I think there's a chance as three because I think it might, it might be that those teams don't all, none of those teams went out. So you've got that. And then there's the Notre Dame thing. I keep bringing this up. Yeah, we've got to explain it.

So Notre Dame has a big Miami problem. Notre Dame beat Boston College. Ugly first half. Boston College is really bad. Notre Dame was struggling with them. They ended up pulling away 2510. But Notre Dame has a big. big, big, big problem, they need Miami to lose another game because if Miami has an identical

record to Notre Dame at the end of the season, if Miami finishes the season 10 and 2 and has a win head-to-head against Notre Dame, Miami will get into the playoff before Notre Dame will. And I don't know that Miami will get into the playoff at 10-and-2, but Miami will have a better chance than Notre Dame because, as I said, head-to-head win, but also Miami will have one quality win, Notre Dame, and Notre Dame will have maybe zero, maybe one, depending on what USC does. So you know how the college football playoff committee seems to alter like the way it deliberates at the end of the year? The people change, the thought process changes. Last year was the first time in committee history that they favored or rewarded the conference championship game losers.

Correct. And my theory has always been that because there are 12 teams instead of four, they were able to do that in a way that they weren't able to in the past i would agree with that so if they do that again then that puts notre dame in a tough spot because like notre dame is only in a tough spot if there's only one spot left and it's between them in miami like that they would lose that head to head i'm a hundred percent in agreement with you as they should but i'm not even sure Miami's going to be there at ten and two so if you're unsure that miami is going to be there at ten and two then Notre Dame certainly cannot be. So I think that, like, Miami probably feels pretty good about its chances of getting

in attendance too. Well, unless Miami loses again, which seems highly impossible. Yeah, which I don't know what happened to them. They looked so good. And I don't even feel bad for buying the hype. They have a lot of good players. Something's just not clicking there for whatever reason. But I feel like it's higher likelihood that Notre Dame and Miami go.

Or on November 15th, Notre Dame just loses to pit. That could end that too. Yeah, and who knows? I don't know. Like USC, if they keep winning, there's a lot of games that still need to be played, that maybe that game ages better. USC was in the top 25 already on Saturday. I'm sure they'll probably move up a little bit after some of the losses that happened.

Tony in the chat, Miami lost to an unranked team. Notre Dame did not, yes, but Notre Dame lost to Miami. So, Notre Dame cannot have a better resume than Miami if they have the same record. Do you want the games to matter or not? Yeah. We have to draw a line in the sand right now. Do you want the results of the games that we play to matter? Yeah, and it's not like Notre Dame's other games

or against teams that won their conferences. It's not who they're playing. No, I don't know how it would play out if Notre Dame had three top 15 wins. Yes, that might be different. It might be different because the head-to-head technically is the tiebreaker between two teams that are identical. Yeah, and that would be fairly identical. But Notre Dame doesn't bring anything to the table from a strength of schedule

standpoint where it would not be anything about a time. USC is Notre Dame's best win. USC probably will be Notre Dame's best win. We'll see about Pitt. Yeah. It'll be the Dodgers won the World Series, by the way. Yeah, they did. Congratulations to the team that spent the most money. I hit them three and a half to one in the top of the ninth inning because

Otani was coming up. And I just was like, this was worth it. And I just won. Look at you. I had a really bad day. You said it. No, but it's a good day now. It ended well. I started this podcast in a pretty bad mood. Things weren't going my way today. It's coming back around. It's coming up already now. You know, never give up. That's right.

So we will, maybe that Notre Dame Miami thing, because we're talking about it now, because it all happened today because Miami lost SMU, it may take care of itself. If Miami were to lose another game and Notre Dame kept winning, especially if Miami loses to Pitt and Notre Dame beats Pitt, which seems like the most likely way that happens, then it'd be fine. Notre Dame can get in over them, no big deal. And that's... The truth is, as we sit here right now,

Notre Dame is unequivocally a top 10 team. So the only way that they're in a pickle, I think, is if the committee, again, rewards the teams that lose their conference championship games and whoever those teams are, it could get kind of dicey. But right now, they seem to be, when you do your thing,

projecting the playoff, I'm assuming Notre Dame will be easily in the morning, right? No. I'm just trying to think I'd have to put Miami in and I don't think Miami's going to make it Yeah So no they're not going to be in

Interesting Interesting I can't wait I'm having a hard way I think it's possible Texas Tech and BYU you were in I mean BYU is already in But Texas Tech is the What if Texas Tech Let's say Texas Tech

Wins the Big 12 BYU loses the championship game They both get in Yeah I mean it's possible So, no, we'll find out because, again, they play each other. So we will find out. That's the thing, too. It's like you're going to put two teams in that haven't played yet,

which will then change a week from now. Yeah. But the one thing I'll say is Notre Dame is firmly a top 10 team right now. That should play well in their favor. We'll see how it plays out. I don't know what's going to happen to Miami. They should be rooting for Miami for the longest time. Now you should be rooting against them.

Hardily and lustily against Mike. And do you have a 30 second discussion about Carson Beck in that throw he threw in overtime? It was bad. It's a second game that they've lost because of his interception problem. Yes. Which is. Again, that is what the Georgia people said might be a problem.

It was a terrible pick. And he looked great in the beginning of the season, and it's come back, and it's bitten him in the butt. But also congratulations to SMU, which played really well. Scott Simon's defense was awesome. And you do like when you see a coach who signed an extension a few days ago. Yeah, right. Lashley, we didn't get a chance to talk about that on the show. Yeah.

Because it happened after a Thursday show. Red Lashley signed an extension. He's staying at SMU, which, look, he's from Springdale, Arkansas. So obviously, Arkansas is home for him. Auburn is probably going to open. It's a best place he worked before. We think Florida State still might open, even though I don't know. Maybe not.

Maybe Florida State's back. Yeah, I don't know. Back is relative. Yeah. They played a great game Saturday. They played a, yeah, they played a game Saturday. They beat Wake Forest 42 to 7. Wake Forest beat SMU last week.

I know. You're right. They're back. Okay. Let's talk about the playoff locks. We saw one today. Okay. We saw one here in Columbus.

Ohio State is a playoff lock. Indiana is a playoff lock. Indiana went to Maryland. Maryland went up 10 to 3, and Indiana then proceeded to absolutely obliterate. Yeah. So other playoff lock, are we doing? listing playoff locks right now is that we're doing i think there's only one other one is that

old miss i think it's old miss okay because now i guess they could lose to florida and to mississippi state but i don't think they will do that yeah we're giving you locks we're not giving you clinched those are different yeah so i think that that's a lock um i'm trying to think of anybody else that may or okay because i would think organ might be but organ has a pretty tough games to go yeah i don't want to put them in that category yet either so um i think that's it Yeah. I mean, Alabama plays LSU, Oklahoma, Eastern Illinois, and Auburn. So like, you know, Auburn's probably not going to lose more than one of those. Yeah. And even if they lose, yeah, they can lose one.

Let me ask you this, because we talked all year about Oklahoma could be nine and three and still get in. I think Alabama at nine and three gets in. I would put them in as a lot. But they're not going to. They're not going to be nine and three. So then put them in as a lock. Yeah. Okay, Alabama's a lock. All right, Alabama's a lock. Because even at nine and three, they would still have wins. over Georgia, Vanderbilt, Missouri, Tennessee, and that would be four ranked wins. So that would be...

Well, we'll see. I mean, we don't know if Tennessee's going to be ranked by the end of here. Yeah, after that, yeah. They got to play Florida and Vandy still. But, but yes, I'm fine with putting Alabama in as a lock. Like, it would take a pretty, pretty bad tumble for Alabama to not make it in. Yeah, no, I don't think they're going to go two and two down the stretch, especially with one of the games being Eastern Illinois and the other...

We're not, we're not ready to call Texas. San Am a lock yet, are we? I think I might be. Hold on. Let me look at their schedule. They got Missouri and Texas coming up. South Carolina also. So I am ready to call them a lock because if they lose to Missouri and Texas and beat Sanford

and South Carolina, they would be 10 and 2, and I think 10 and 2 in the SEC gets you in. And they had the win against Notre Dame. And the win over Notre Dame would be nice. Yeah, they're a lock. Thank you for bringing that up. I would have missed them. Okay. How many locks do we have?

Is that six? It's Ohio State, Indiana, Texas, A&M, Alabama, and Alabama and Oleman. Yes, that's five. Okay, so five. We have not filled half the field yet. That's a good column for this week. We think the American champ gets in. Memphis crushed rice on Friday night.

Tulane looked not great in a bad loss at UTSA. So they're going to play. Yeah, and there are certain teams that, like as River just pointed out, that can make a run still. Well, Virginia can't, isn't a make a run team. Virginia can win the ACC or they won't make the playoff. Michigan's a make a run. Michigan's a make a run team.

Iowa's a make-a-run team. And Michigan's currently in the midst of making a run, although they messed around with Purdue on Saturday. USC is a make-a-run team. Oklahoma's a make-a-run team. Texas is a make-a-run team. Yeah, a lot of make-a-run teams. Yeah.

I think the entire sport that's not a lock is a make-a-run team. Well, it hasn't been eliminated yet. Yeah, right. Yeah. So there are quite a few of those. But this is going to be a fun next few weeks. Like, that Texas Tech, BYU game is going to be awesome. Yeah.

How about the game day going to a Big 12 game two weeks in a row? I think Lubbock's a really cool place to go. Lubbock isn't very cool. I've never been there. Oh, I have. It is, it is fun. Yeah, but it wasn't a very jam-packed top 25 matchup. Utah is just beating the crap out of Cincinnati right now, by the way. I would be very shocked if we woke up to Cincinnati having won this game. And I think we covered everything else from a ranked standpoint. Georgia Tech lost their first game. We discussed that.

Notre Dame had a really ugly win over Boston College. Texas Tech beat Kansas State. in a game that they pulled away right there at the end. There was a couple turnovers at the end. Virginia was in a tight game at Cal for most of the game. They did score late to go up 10. Louisville survived because Louisville's not out of this thing yet either. That's another one that we needed to mention in the ACC.

Do you want to congratulate Bill Belichick on his first win? We congratulate Billaichick on his first win in the ACC and in the power conference. We congratulate Jeff Leby. Yeah, his first SEC win in Mississippi State. Yeah. And they've been knocking on the door the last few weeks to get it. And they finally got it. So congratulations for them.

Yeah, they beat Arkansas. So Bob Petrino still waiting for his first win as the Arkansas interim coach. Yeah. Congratulations to Rich Rod and the boys for beating Houston. That's a huge win. Absolutely. So, yeah, quite a week. And we can't thank Medello enough for bringing us to Columbus, letting us hang this morning.

It was a beautiful morning. We were there at the DJ booth. Here's some of the folks that we met up with. We did the show from the DJ booth, so high up in the sky. It was a lot of fun. We had people pointing out, who are those people? What are they doing? But we had a good time.

And we cannot wait to do this again in a couple of weeks in Athens, Georgia. And that game is going to be bananas. Spicy. Yes. It's really spicy today. Yep. And I like that we're going to a spicy. Because, like, when we came to Columbus, when we first knew we were coming,

it was like, oh, yeah, this is going to be great. And then we got there. It was still a great day, awesome time at the Modelo, you know, station area. Game, not so much. Game, not so much. Although, again, I found it very instructive to get to see Julian saying in person. Yeah, do you want to take, like, a 30 seconds to, like, talk about that Jeremiah Smith deflection touchdown catch where the ball, where we were like a five-hour.

I think River has. of it do you have river i don't know if he has it ready okay but i know he has the oh we can hey we can we can tweet it tonight um we can reference it on a tweet yeah okay awesome well so uh he's not crying that's good yeah no the ball's lost it's a tough night for river but no he also has great video of the carnell tate double move over the top touchdown that one was pretty spectacular too yeah that's the one remember penn state scores and you're like, okay, maybe they're going to make a game for this, and Ohio State just immediately runs right back down the field, and Cornell Tate beats the entire secondary of Penn State.

For half of football, it did feel like a vintage Ohio State Penn State game. I don't know. It felt to me, like, it was a three-point game at the half that felt like a three-touchdown game at the half. There's the Cornell Tate double move. Yeah, that's just like last year's game. They were, it felt like a three-touchdown game last year, and it was only a, you know, Penn State didn't have a pick six

early on and that kind of altered the scoreboard last year, last year. But like, I feel like Ohio State always. And then Penn State got the Ohio State fumble deep in Ohio State territory this year. Which was basically last year's pick six. You're like, okay, well, Ohio State's been out playing them. They've been moving the ball up and down the field

and it's a three point game at halftime. That's exactly what Ohio State Penn State typically is. This time, Ohio State beat the crap out of them and then the scoreboard reflected it. Yeah, my favorite Julian San play was the one where he is on a third down he ducks two sacks

he escapes he runs for the first down and then that was when he went to Jeremiah Smith yeah and it was a incredible I think it was Cornell Tate it was another Tate touchdown yeah so so in like here I see this

this is a thing this isn't just an Ohio State thing this is just whoever this was Indiana last year it's whoever people want to doubt yeah what's the best team the best team Ohio State has beaten. Texas is the best team Ohio State's schedule has not gone the way we thought it would before the year started. Now that's obviously through no fault of their own. But let me just ask for people who doubt that they're a team that at least should be considered the favorite to win the national title. If you're doubting their poll position in the national championship race, I would challenge you to explain to me who is and why. Yeah. And then

secondly, why is context clues of beating the crap out of everybody that they play and also having five potential first-round draft picks and their starting lineup, like, not enough for you. Like, what needs to happen? Oh, and then Tony goes, Indiana is just as weak. Indiana won at Oregon. Tony's one of those people who's like, hey, nobody played nobody.

And it's like, I get it. But there is more. Oh, one more Big Ten game. Sure, we didn't talk about. Let's get to it. The Minnesota Michigan State game. You were locked in on that game. We talked about Jonathan Smith and how tough

his situation is there, they were going to win. They changed quarterbacks. Their new quarterback, whose name I'm not going to butcher right now, had an incredible game. And unfortunately, they let Minnesota march down the field in one minute to score a touchdown and then went to overtime. And I realized there was a non, I believe it was a pass interference non-call that the Michigan state fans are very up in arms about and I understand.

but you cannot let them march down the field in a minute and score a touchdown. Like, you had that game. You had it. Now, I don't think that means Jonathan Smith needs to be fired because he lost an overtime game at Minnesota. But they do have that kind of allergic to winning situation going on there. Yeah, for sure. And that's not the number one thing that scares me about that. Oh, touchdown Cincinnati, by the way.

We're back, right as I just said. It was 88-yard touchdown, too. okay, we're back. I said that there's no way that they could end up winning the game and of course I'll be wrong because that's all I am this year. But yeah,

I love playing this game of who did you play or they only beat Texas by seven and Texas turned out to stink and it's like, okay, well, if you're making this comment, we don't know that Texas stinks yet. But that's what he's asserting. So if that's what you're asserting,

who should be number one in your mind and do you want to play that game with them? Because I would love to. If Ohio states win against Texas wasn't sexy enough for you, who would you like to, to be number one, and let's nitpick them the same way you're nitpicking Ohio State. Yeah, because who are you going to say?

Bama? Well, he's not going to do that game. Yeah, Bama lost to Florida State, and Florida State's bad. Let's go down the top. There you go. Let's go down the top 10 and nitpick everybody. Yeah, let's do it. We need to make this a regular segment where you just nitpick. Ohio State only beat Texas by seven at home.

Ain't played nobody, Paul. They played nobody and the team that Archmining stinks, and they only beat them by seven. Indiana is 9-0. The only good team they beat his Oregon. The only good team that they have beaten his Oregon, we're unsure about Oregon, and their opener against, who was their opener against?

Old Dominion. Can you believe that they only beat Old Dominion by like 11? They stink, okay? Texas A&M, let's like, barely beat Notre Dame. Barely beat Notre Dame and Notre Dame has two losses. They were holding at the end of the Notre Dame game, too. I don't know if you noticed that,

but the refs blew it and Notre Dame got screwed. This is fun. We should do this every one. week. I'm kind of, it kind of feels like cathartic to me. Um, but and then A&M also played really close game with Auburn and Auburn stinks, dude. They only beat them by six. They only beat Arkansas by three. Texas A&M blows, dude. Okay. Alabama got their doors blown off by a team that had lost to Stanford. They lost to Stanford. Thank you for bringing me closer to you. I wanted to be closer. I know you did. Let's do out. Okay, let's do Georgia. Georgia lost to Alabama. Can you

believe it? Alabama lost to Florida State. They suck. Georgia almost lost to Tennessee. Yeah. oh miss lost to georgia who lost to alabama who lost to florida state who lost to stanford they stink oregon oh my god wait wait we're gonna keep going do it again do it again do it wait oh miss almost to georgia who lost to alabama who lost to florida state who lost to stanford who lost to hawaii and hawaii is just a wonderful place that we would all like to visit okay um let's do this we're doing this every week by the way yeah um Oregon sucks because they lost to indiana and Indiana is a freaking basketball school. How could you lose to a basketball school at home when you have a top five NIL budget?

You suck. BYU. Are you kidding me? You lost your quarterback in the off season. How are we complaining about BYU? The quarterback where's number 47? I was going to say something else. I don't know.

I don't want to offend people. Let's go to BYU and I'll figure out a way to make fun of them. Hold on. You don't think I can do it. I don't know if you can do it. What? You don't think I'll do it? I'll get offensive.

You can do it. Please don't. Please don't get it's canceled. BYU is undefeated, but they got, they went undefeated last year and they play in the crappy Big 12 and they played Colorado or a three-point game. Colorado just got their doors blown off by Arizona who gave like 55 points into the third quarter. Colorado's not even a team and you only beat them by three. You suck.

And guess what? Last year you got to 8 and 02 and then you shit on yourself and then you ended up not being very good. You suck. Okay. I can do it to anybody. Notre Dame. You started the season 0 and 2. That should automatically disqualify you from being in the national champion.

You lost the team that lost SMU today. You lost your 0 and 2 to start the season. Get the hell out of here. Why are we even talking about Notre Dame? You don't get to be in any conversations of value if you start 0 and 2, period. Texas Tech. You have an oil billionaire putting out Buku dollars in a way that nobody in your conference can even conceive of. And you lose to Arizona State on the road.

What did all that money get spent on? You stink. Okay. Who did I miss? That's the whole top 10. Who did I miss? That's the top 10, the whole thing. The next time you say that a team stinks because of something that happened a month

and a half ago, and it wasn't good enough to your standard. Just remember that segment. Zach says, oh, that's what your best win was, and you're crying. No, Zach, we answered your question. Ohio State's best one is Texas. And then we said, and then we made fun of you. Yeah. And I'm sorry that that hurt your feelings, but do we need to have, we need to have that

be the segment every week. We will. That's fun. And it might be the same because, like, teams will just beat teams. We won't pick the big 10 every week. NYU is tough, though. So maybe that's a segment or that's a point that maybe I think we can go with Bear Bot by wearing 47.

I think that's good enough right now. I just try to like picture. What would somebody say in my Twitter mentions while also leaving out the context of the thing they're arguing for? That's what they do. They'll say X argument. And then when you ask them to bring up their argument, like it's the same exact holes that you can pick in the one in the argument that they made.

I mean, the thing is like Ohio State, we said this on the on the video from Ohio Stadium today. They're not invincible. Yeah, and I don't remember either of us saying that they're going to win the national title. I think that they should be considered the favorite today. Obviously, context changed. Last year, Ohio State was undefeated. And when they lost to Michigan, I was like, I was out.

I picked them to lose to Tennessee in the first game. But they are very good. I don't know not to Tennessee. The two best defensive players in the country, maybe the two best receivers in the country. One of the two best quarterbacks in the country, maybe. And teams are living brief. organisms with people who are getting better, who people who are practicing, who are working at it.

You are not defined only by what happened in the opener. You're not defined by what happened last weekend. You're not even defined by what happened today. You're defined by your totality of your resume at the end of the year and where that resume stacks up with the rest of your peers. But I promise you, I can also do it to Ohio State. Ohio State doesn't play anybody. Penn State stinks.

Texas isn't very good. Archmanning is the most overrated prospect to ever walk through it. And they only beat them by seven at home in their opener. hundred and five thousand people rooting for you you can't even win by more than seven you stink everybody and if you have your own preconceived notions about who's good and who's not that's great that's what

the sport's all about but you cannot do that in good faith and then like not pop up how miserable is the life of the person who just thinks everybody stinks and like people still say Indiana hasn't played anybody because they can't remember that this year happened and they beat Oregon

oh here we go where to go Moby. Indiana still hasn't played anyone, so until they do their trash, they've beaten Oregon. Do we think Oregon's not? Or did Oregon become no one when Indiana beat them? Yeah. Indiana is just mauling people, dude.

Yeah. 55 to 10, I think. Indiana being dominant with that eight of their starter say yes. So they went 55 to 10. Yeah. 55 to 10. Yeah. No, I think things are going on.

And Maryland's not a terrible team either. Maryland, they're not great. They're not great. They're not a quality win, but beating at Maryland 55 to 10 is what you would expect the national. Those are the scores that Ohio State and Michigan were putting up when they won the national titles out of the Big Ten. So that's what you want to see out of them.

Yeah. So anyway, can we do that every week? We could absolutely do that every week. We can even pick, like, we don't even have to do the top 10. We could just move further down the top 25 if you want some fresh meat. Yeah, I kind of want, I want to do it right now, but I won't give into it. Or he's like, okay, who's number 11? Let's go.

Yeah, who is number 11? You're going down like a sweet muffin right now. Save it, save it for next week. Thank you for watching. We will have early previews of the biggest games of next week. Who knows, we may have to go live in an emergency sense on Sunday. I suspect we will. We'll find out.

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We're on the road, Rivers upstairs crying. Ari was going to punch me at the beginning of the show. No, I was, I took out some frustration about something else on you. But, you know, hey, it happens. Next week's going to be a better week. You know, have you seen that meme where, you know, there are two. gamblers one that's underground tunnel and they're picking and there's one that's beneath them that's picking and one of them is walking in the opposite direction with the pick giving up and the

other one with the diamonds right behind it and the other one that kept hitting becomes rich you never lose in gambling until you stop that just summed are you up in a nutshell right there i'm i thought that today was awesome i had a great day thanks again to the people who showed up to medello thanks for patronizing this channel being here and thank you even to the people who chat and hate us like honestly the show is growing i feel it growing i feel the momentum of it and i'm really thankful to everybody who's here right now already ain't played nobody we'll talk to you soon