Andy & Ari On3 - College Football Week 13 INSTANT REACTION: Missouri-Oklahoma, USC-Oregon, Tennessee-Florida, Pitt-GT
Episode Date: November 23, 2025Join Andy & Ari LIVE following all of the action on Saturday night to recap the entirety of the Week 13 slate of College Football. A jam packed Saturday to unpack, and Andy & Ari have you covered righ...t here. Games include.... (0:00) On Tonight's Instant Reaction(1:06) Presenting Sponsor(2:51) Intro: Week 13 Instant Reaction(4:00) #7 Oregon 42, #15 USC 27(13:10) Dan Lanning amidst coaching carousel(21:32) Examining USC after loss to Oregon(25:31) Pittsburgh 42, #16 Georgia Tech 28(28:43) SMU 38, Louisville 6(30:26) #8 Oklahoma 17, Missouri 6(32:47) Notre Dame 70, Syracuse 7(35:08) #13 Miami 34, Virginia Tech 17(36:44) #12 Utah 51, Kansas State 47(38:17) #11 BYU 26, Cincinnati 14(38:51) How will the last at-large spots of the CFP shake out?(41:54) #14 Vanderbilt 45, Kentucky 17(42:36) #20 Tennessee 31, Florida 11(44:19) James Madison 24, Washington St 20(45:27) #18 Michigan 45, Maryland 20(47:27) CFP Scenarios(49:33) Iowa 20, Michigan St 17(49:59) NC State 21, Florida State 11(50:20) Wisconsin 27, #21 Illinois 10(51:24) Modelo(52:40) Northwestern 38, Minnesota 35(52:50) #1 Ohio State 42, Rutgers 9(55:55) Black Friday's Slate(58:19) #17 Texas 52, Arkansas 37(58:44) #25 Arizona State 42, Colorado 17(1:01:08) Week 14: Saturday Games(1:03:41) Iron Bowl Preview(1:05:55) Weather Reports(1:06:25) Closing Out A huge show you don't wanna miss! Our show is presented by BetMGM! If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works: 1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB.2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game.3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sureyou use bonus code CFB when you sign up! Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary. See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US). Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This show is sponsored by Modelo! Some things in life are just made for each other. Peanut Butter and jelly. Macaroni and cheese. Modelo and college football. If you’re watching this, it means you live and breathe football. All season long. You know what that makes you? A Full-Time Fan. Which means you deserve a Modelo. Because football wouldn’t be the same without you. Modelo is the official beer sponsor of The College Football Playoff. Drink responsibly. Beer imported by Crown Imports, Chicago, IL Watch our show on YouTube! https://youtube.com/live/snZUCfM3MLg Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Interested in partnering with the show? Email advertise@on3.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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On tonight's instant reaction edition of Andy and Ari on three presented by BetMGM.
A huge win for Oregon in Eugene against USC.
Dan Lanning moves on.
They did not schedule Chattanooga State today, as Dan Lanning said.
Big win for the Ducks solidifies their playoff position.
USC, well, maybe next year.
Also, Oklahoma beats me.
Missouri. Utah has a wild comeback against Kansas State to keep itself barely alive in the
college football playoff race. BYU is currently just finishing a win against Cincinnati, and they
move one step closer to playing for the Big 12 championship. We'll talk about all those results,
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Welcome to Andy and Ari on 3, presented by a bet-in-law.
MGM, we are finished with a day of college.
We're not finished.
We're not finished because Washington and UCLA are still playing, R.
But we're never finished.
It's never over.
It's never over.
But Oregon has beaten USC.
Oklahoma keeps moving along.
Pitt goes to Atlanta, races to a huge lead against Georgia Tech,
and then holds on for dear life.
Utah has that incredible comeback.
Vandy thrashes Kentucky.
Not in the playoff race, but Tennessee crushes Florida and Penn State crushes Nebraska.
Back in the playoff race, BYU goes to Cincinnati and gets a big win.
SMU stays alive with a hammering of Louisville.
There are a lot of interesting results.
There's no earth-shattering one, Ari.
The biggest game to talk about.
is Oregon and USC.
So let's talk about that one.
Let's talk about Oregon 42, USC 27.
Andy, I spent all day, like, waiting for something crazy to happen.
Like, I watched football all day, and I was, like, waiting,
what's going to be the game this week that completely shakes up Tuesday?
And I don't think that that happened.
So, which might make Tuesday even more interesting,
because now we're getting down to the nitty-gritty of having to make some tough decisions.
and, of course, starting where you want to start is the appropriate place.
So let's get into it.
All right.
Let's start, Eugene.
Oregon plays a complete game.
Great defensively, really shut down USC's run game.
I believe it was 1.9 yards to carry for USC.
And while USC did gain yards through the air, Oregon picked off Jade Maiava twice.
They had the long punt return for a touchdown.
Basically, they won in all three phases.
It was a great complete team win for Oregon.
And it solidifies their place, I think, because I think the committee told us,
and we got to listen to what the committee tells us.
I know you think that they're going to change things up,
especially with regard to Notre Dame and Miami.
But I do think we need to pay attention to what they're trying to tell us.
They had Oregon at seven this week.
I don't think they're dropping Oregon for winning this game.
I think Sevens is as low as they go, and as long as Oregon beats Washington next week, which I have an interesting stat for you, Ari.
Let's hear it.
So Dan Lanning has lost six games since he's been the head coach at Oregon.
Do you know how many of those are two teams outside the top 10?
Zero.
One.
Okay.
We lost to number 17 Oregon State his first year.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
So it wasn't like a bad team.
They lost to a ranked team at the end of the season.
And the other...
Like a wagon when they were kicking the crap out of people,
weren't they, if I remember correctly?
Yeah, they were really good.
It was Jonathan Smith had a great year.
I believe they won 10 or 11 games.
They beat Florida and the Las Vegas Bowl that year.
The...
But the other five losses all two teams in the top 10.
And not only teams that were in the top 10 when they played,
but teams that finished that season in the top 10.
I was thinking of three of them,
I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
the two times he lost to Washington a few years ago.
They were both in the top five when those games happened.
Correct.
And they lost eventual national champ, Georgia, his first year.
Yeah, the opener was a rough go of it.
You know, the very first gaming play, they lost by 100.
Yeah, they lost to eventual national champ, Ohio State,
and the Rose Bowl last year.
That was our only loss.
So they're in a good spot here.
And, you know, I think if Oregon plays the way to did it.
And remember, they still have a bunch of banged up receivers.
Like, Kenny and Sadeek with his two touchdowns was the main receiving threat.
And my God, I mean, we met him at Big Ten Media Days.
You stand next to that guy in person.
It's just like, how is he this?
Like, he's a tight end, but they've been playing him at receiver.
He's like one of those athletes.
He's, you know, maybe Kyle Pitts light to a certain extent or maybe Kyle Pitts fully.
I don't know.
You're more familiar with Kyle Pitts in college, but he was an alien too.
So, you know, very hard person to guard, tough mismatch, all that stuff.
Andy, I just want to ask you, because every single time USC has played a team this year that, you know, we perceive as a potential national champion or at least the contender to win the national championship.
The game kind of looks like that.
Like, I felt like I was watching the Notre Dame game all over again.
I don't know if you had that feeling, but they were kind of there and maybe if they scored one more time, they might be in it, but they weren't really in it.
Well, there are special teams were awful in this game.
Yeah.
Like truly awful.
played good special teams that might have been a touchdown game. I'm not saying they
would have won, but that one, that one penalty where someone jumped over the center for
a personal foul on a field goal attempt that turned into a touchdown drive, punt return for
a touchdown. Like this game was won and lost in that area. But I just want to ask you,
before we go to USC, I want to focus on Oregon, feel any certain type of confirmation, or
is it something that you wanted to see?
How did you feel about Oregon coming into the weekend and how do you feel about them now?
I just wanted to see them play well against a good team, and that's exactly what they did.
So I think they're hitting their stride at the right time.
They belong in the playoff.
And I'm excited to see them in the playoff because I think last year was such a weird set of circumstances where they had a dominant regular season.
then they have the buy
and then they happen to hit the buzz saw
that is Ohio State in the playoff.
And I don't think they're going to have
to deal with that this time.
I mean, I don't, one, they're not going to get a buy.
And two,
I don't think they're going to run into Ohio State
right away.
So if they run into Ohio State,
they'll have played a game
and it'll help a little bit.
Now, do I think they would beat Ohio State?
Not really.
Do I think they could beat anybody else?
Absolutely.
Yeah, you know, and Ohio State is really good.
Ohio State legitimately hasn't played an interesting opponent in like two and a half months.
I'll be very interested to see what they look like.
You know, obviously we get next weekend where we'll be in Detroit and Ann Arbor at both the MGM casino downtown and at the game.
And, you know, maybe we'll get a look at it.
And I saw some of the videos of Ohio State's receivers who didn't play today before the game and they didn't look like they were walking very comfortably.
So we'll see what the health status of Carnell Tate and Jeremiah Smith are.
But, like, I do believe that Oregon can play with anybody.
And, you know, Dante Moore is kind of an interesting person because I feel like he's been floating around, like, six and ten range in all the Heisman, like, projections, but also, like, is not somebody who has commanded a ton of the conversation.
He throws an unbelievably beautiful ball.
And I find him to be very consistent.
I think he's having a very good year.
Kenyon Sadiq is awesome.
Like, I just have a lot of really good players, Andy.
I'm a big Noah Whittington fan.
Yeah, Wittington runs really, really hard.
Like, they just have players on every level of both sides of the ball, which is what you want when you're talking about a team in this position right now.
And remember, they did this a lot with a banged up offensive line.
Like, Isaiah World was hurt.
Yeah.
They thought about putting him in.
They had at one point their fourth tackle was in the game.
So they're not doing this at full power.
It may be that by the playoff, they are back at full strength.
And it's interesting because we keep talking about whether you want to play in the championship game or not, the conference championship game.
I think they'd be all for Ohio State just going ahead and winning against Michigan so they can get healthy.
Because if Michigan beats Ohio State, it's Oregon and Indiana in the championship game.
Yeah.
And I don't know if you saw it.
chat maybe at the backhand half of the show we can get into like you know scenarios or
you know people are debating whether a 10 and two michigan's a lock to make it uh we can maybe
talk about it at the end but i yeah i'm with you and you know i really do think and i and i really
think this more now than i ever have that teams that are ranked in between 12 and 22 are all very
similar. And I think that USC is firmly in that group. Like, USC is a solid team. It's a team
with a good offense. I think you would have liked to see a little bit of a better defense,
but not a putrid defense. And a team that I think it can sit that could, you know, exist and
compete against any of those teams in that range. But what I think I saw today, Andy, and maybe
we needed to see it because we hadn't seen it at all this year from Oregon was that separator of
what does a solid team look like when it plays an elite one.
And I think that's what we saw today.
And I guess if you're a USC fan, you might say, well, if we didn't do this, this and this,
we didn't jump over the center.
We didn't give up some stupid special teams.
It would have been a game.
You're right.
But anybody who watched that game, that beautiful, colorful Pac-12 championship of a game,
saw what they're plain eyes who the better team was in that one.
And I think that's what I wanted to see out of Oregon.
I think I knew we knew it was in there.
I think the country knew it was in there.
but like the way that it's been flying under the radar since it lost to Indiana,
not taking up very much oxygen or time in the airwaves.
And maybe part of that, too, is a byproduct of the schedule that they played.
You know, Ohio State played a similar schedule, but they're Ohio State.
They have some stars on their team.
They're always in the conversation.
I think Oregon was a very under-discussed team that could make a run.
So, yeah, I was very impressed by them.
And, you know, I thought that they looked like the clear better team.
And I think that's what you needed to see.
Yep. And Dan Lanning, again, being the opposite of every other coach, because we're not even putting his name on lists this year. You notice that. Like the first two years or first three years he was there, jobs would come up and like, oh, Texas A&M's open. Would Dan Lanham want that? Alabama's open. Would Dan Landing want that? Nope, not anymore. LSU's open, Florida's open, Penn State's open. We're like, we didn't put Dan Landing on any list. And somebody,
actually asked Laning about that after the game.
The quote in this press conference that's getting all the traction is that Chattanooga State quote
that we didn't schedule Chattanooga State quote.
I don't care about that.
Like Oregon is ahead of Alabama.
The committee's already spoken on that.
And also the S.219 conference game, so we're not going to have to deal with that next year.
And it's also just like the same thing.
Someone says it every year.
It's like, okay.
Who cares?
You can't say it here.
But so maybe he was just getting out of a system.
But the more interesting quote from that press conference,
was this answer to this question.
When you look around the college football landscape,
do you ever wonder why more people can't appreciate where they are?
You know, start with one.
I don't mind the question,
but I guess ultimately people realize at this point
that I'm not at risk in being anywhere else.
Like I've said for a long time,
as long as I win, I get the opportunity to be here.
That's on me, right?
So this is where I'll be as long as I do that.
What I can speak to is that my situation is so good
that I feel really comfortable saying that.
I love this place.
And more than that,
I love the commitment that they've given to me, right?
Somebody gave me this opportunity, not everybody gets that.
I can't speak for anybody else's situation, you know, when it comes to that.
So it probably tells you how special organ is, right?
And certainly how special I feel getting to be here and getting to coach here.
What a privilege that is for me.
That's something I'll never take for granted and want to be able to see it through.
So I think because of the way Willie Taggart left and Mario Cristobal left,
which were fairly unique circumstances,
we all started viewing Oregon as a stepping stone job.
We need to look at Oregon the job like we look at Ohio State the job
and Georgia the job and Alabama the job and Michigan the job.
And so much so much has changed in such a short amount of time because you're right.
You could not have said that four years ago with some of the jobs that are open right now.
Like it's just different.
Oregon's going to give you all the resources you need to succeed.
You're in the conference you want to be in.
There's nothing that you can get anywhere else that's better than what you can get at Oregon.
And with Dan Landing, I believe it's the knock on the door thing.
You keep knocking eventually you're going to get in.
Yeah.
You know, Oregon's a really interesting place, much like Texas A&M.
Like if you think about how many teams or programs exist in college football right now that have the resource.
and the ability to do something but haven't really done it ever like is it Oregon and
Texas A&M like are those the only two now A&M I think but Oregon is a relatively recent one
because it's you know it's really since the mid 90s it's kind of rich Brooks and then Mike
Volati right and then it really got supercharged under Chip Kelly so it's one of the newer
to the party ones I think that that's what
makes this so fascinating to me. It's that like they've made it to the national championship
game a few times. They've won the PAC 12 before. It's not like they're like new to success at
the moment. But my perception of Oregon is that it doesn't exist in the same psychopathic
plane as some of the other big jobs in terms of their fans, their expectations. Of course they
want to win championships and they believe that they deserve that and they demand it. But I feel
like once Oregon breaks through and I think it's a matter of time. Like if I,
had to, if my life depended on it and I had to say, will Oregon win the national title between now
and the next seven years? I would probably like say yes, right? But at the same time, if they
missed the playoff one year or, you know, they aren't the best team in college football one year,
like the fan base isn't going to turn on you. So I think that's kind of a nice sweet spot for
somebody's like just quality of life. And like the ability to be appreciated on that level and the way
that you just brought up their last two coaches leaving.
Like, you know how do you went over a fan base?
You want to know how bad Ole Miss wishes they could hear the words
come out of their mouth that Dan Lanning said in the news conference today.
And Dan Lanning isn't just saying it.
He's saying it emphatically.
He's saying it to the point because you know,
he's not like I'll tell you next week.
I'll announce it next week.
But like he's so sincere in those comments that, like you said,
he's not even on coach hotboards.
And I think that's cool.
And I think there should be a wider conversation, honestly,
about whether or not more coaches should take that mindset or if the transient corporate ladder climbing
instinct that consume so many coaches is actually working to their detriment.
Like if you get the Ole Miss job and you're really good in it, like why should you go?
Like why is everybody so eager to always go?
And I wonder if more Dan landings are going to pop up in the next five to seven years now that the lines
between great job and good job are muddied in a way that they weren't five years ago.
I think it might be possible.
I think it might be possible.
If you want to read about that,
I wrote a column about the whole situation,
the comparison between Lane Kiffin and Dan Lannning.
And I just think it's a very interesting juxtaposition.
I do not begrudge Lane Kiffin what he's doing.
My God, he's feeding our families, Ari.
Like, Lane Kiffin is literally feeding our family.
So I will not complain about that, but it's different.
candy. I'm not feeling my best right now. Yeah. I don't know if you can tell that based on
oh yeah, you know, the tea that I'm drinking right now like an annual woman. It really gives it
away. What's that? It's the high energy that's really gave me away. Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm ready to rock, you know, uh, I'll say something high energy here. Um, I think that Dan Lannning is
worthy of the attention and the money that Lane Kiffin is getting and is going to get.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, if you think about, if you think about the comparisons between the two, like if I,
it was starting a program and I had to spend all this money and I knew that I had to hit a
home run like who would you feel more comfortable hiring right now lane kiffin or dan landing like
that's what's even crazy to me about the situation it's like we're all on like lane kiffin watch
like it's groundhogs day and we're all waiting to see if the freaking skunk or whatever groundhog
will look at the his shadow to figure out whether or not it's winter it's called groundhogs
day don't correct me I made a mistake um and it's like
Like, is he really one of the top 10 coaches in college football worthy of all this?
And maybe he is.
He's been highly successful at Ole Miss.
And, you know, he has grown a lot and evolved a lot as a coach over the course of the past 10 years.
He's been, you know, his experience is, I don't want to say this in a way that is like saying, I think he stinks or something.
But like when you think about some of the coaches that I actually would go through all this for, I mean, if you think about the reports of what LSU is offering that man and how much it's going to cost to buy out Brian Kelly and how much it's going to.
the cost to hire the staff and the NIL expenses.
They are going to sink in over $150 million into this guy.
And it's like, how many are you going to feel comfortable doing that for?
And like, maybe you are.
Maybe Lane Kiffin's a slam dunk.
But like, I would do it for Dan Lannning.
And like, I think it's crazy that we've gotten to a point so, so quickly into this new era of college football where like LSU isn't just a no doubt about it at her job than Oregon.
But maybe it's not.
I think if you ask coaches, because it's like what Nick Saban said,
what's the best set up for your player payroll, for everything else.
I think most coaches would say, I want what Oregon's doing.
I want to do it the way Oregon's doing it.
And they're doing it in a way where they're transcending geography, too,
in a way that we didn't know, could you ever get this drastic?
Yeah, exactly.
So fascinating situation.
We got to talk about some of these other games, though.
I want to talk about.
Well, do you want to talk about USC for a minute?
yes actually we should talk about USC because i was reading actually before we came on i was reading
pat 40s column on USC at sports illustrated and he was comparing lincoln riley to clay helton
which you know the record's not that different i mean you are your record andy um
i'm just going to flat out ask you bro successful year for usc or not i i would say yes relative
the expectations going into the year is it
If you went back in time and showed the last four years of results to someone the day Lincoln Riley was hired, they'd say it's a complete failure.
But I feel like saying it that way is like grading on a curve though, because it's like should the expectations have been that low this far into his tenure?
Like I think that like that's part of the problem.
They shouldn't have, but they were.
So this is better than was expected at the beginning of the year.
They've got the number one recruiting class in the nation.
they have gotten better.
So I'm actually okay with the job he's doing.
And I think as long as they get better next year, it's fine.
And they should, right?
They should.
I would think so.
They were better than I thought they would be, period.
But then I was also like reading some of the, you know,
posts from our old colleague, Antonio Morales,
who's covered the team for a long time.
And then you start talking about the defense isn't good enough.
The special team's mistakes are inexcusable.
and it's like, why is this stuff still happening?
Like, even if you, like, think about relative to the expectations of, like, what USC was supposed to be coming into the year,
if you actually just go back and watch that game, it's like, why is somebody jumping over the center's head when everybody on Earth knows that's a penalty?
Right.
And that, like, blows the game open, you know, they held them and it turned into a touchdown.
It's like, why in the most important game of the year, in the game that could keep your CFP hopes alive, are you doing that?
And, like, that, to me, is the stuff that I can't figure out with him.
And it's like, that's not a roster thing.
That's a coaching thing.
That's a discipline thing.
That's a, that's a, what's your personality?
Is your team going to play smart?
And I don't think that, I think USC played sloppy as hell today.
And actually, you know, on one hand, you know, you could say, hey, you know, you played a two possession game with a team that we believe could win a national title.
On the other hand, it's like, why did you just do, like, why did you play that poorly on that stage in that moment?
Right.
And that's, that's discouraging to me.
Yeah.
I mean, you were hired to win these games.
that's the whole point.
Lincoln Riley was hired to win these games
and win championships
and he's not doing it.
And if you're ahead of schedule,
don't play your worst game
or one of your worst games of the year in that moment.
Like that's the other thing.
Like I feel like USC's better than what we saw today.
No, I think this is what they were.
This is what they've been all season.
Every time they run up against a team that's like Notre Dame
or Oregon,
this is what we saw.
Illinois, which, by the way,
lost to Wisconsin tonight, they beat USC.
So they're better than they were.
Like the Michigan game, the Iowa game is proof they're better than they were.
They would have lost those games last year.
The question is, do they take another step?
And they're not going to fire him.
They can't afford to fire him.
They'd love if he left.
Like, his agent's been pushing him all over the place.
That's why you see his name popping up on all these message boards for all these various
searches.
USC would love if he left.
And they, because this is not the AD that hired him.
Mm-hmm.
But he's not leaving and they can't afford to fire.
Or they're not going to pay to fire and they may be able to afford it,
but they're not going to pay the money.
Because it's not a dire situation like some of these other ones.
Yeah.
But I think that you can go into the offseason in a better mood than last offseason,
which I think is good.
I think you can to.
Don't lose to UCLA.
But yes, don't lose to UCLA.
Can we talk about Pat and Arduzzi?
Yes, please.
Plenty game cared about.
Pitt, Georgia Tech.
Pittsburgh takes a 28-0 lead.
Tries really hard to let Georgia Tech back in the game,
but then puts it away with a great run up the middle.
Hey, he told us they don't care about the Notre Dame game,
but they care about this game,
and they are still alive for the ACC Championship
and the college football playoff, are you?
That was kind of a banana,
Banana Land game, wasn't it? It was because they were, well, it was like simultaneous
watching Pittsburgh and Tennessee race out to these giant leads. And then you see Georgia Tech
starting to come back and you're like, oh, Georgia Tech's going to try here in Florida's not.
Yeah. I actually was convinced for two and a half quarters up until that final run that
Pitt was going to lose. Do you want to talk for a second about that insane fake punt?
because I was sure after the fake punt
that Georgia Tech was going to find a way to win.
They were, for those who didn't watch the game, here's the context.
Pitt was up by 14 points with seven minutes left in the game.
They had like a fourth and four or five, something like that around.
They're on their own 45-yard line.
Yeah.
And Marduzzi ran a fake punt.
It was a direct snap to a back in the backfield who tripped over himself,
turf monster and fell short, gave Georgia Tech first and 10 with literally seven minutes left
down to that instantly scored instantly four plays later. And I was like, oh my God. And then you
thought, then on the ensuing possession, Pitt got to a third and long. And you're like,
okay, well, they're probably going to punt. Now I had my tweet ready to go of like, if it was forked
down, fake it again, Narduzi, they'll never see it coming. And then they hit for a 14-yard gain. And then
the next play, they ran up the gut for a 60-yard touchdown or something and won the game.
But, you know, I think that this is very interesting because, you know, I'm going to rely on
you because you're Mr. ACC or All-Power Conference tiebreaker man.
Like, what's going on?
Who's like, I don't even know who's in control of their own destiny right now.
Do you know, will you break it down for us?
Virginia is in control of its own destiny.
Okay.
And SMU is in control of its own destiny.
That's, it's Virginia and SMU because of tiebreakers.
Pitt can still be
7 and 1 in ACC play, but they need help.
Yeah.
Which sets up a massive game.
They have to beat Miami.
Yeah.
And Miami needs to beat them very badly.
Yes.
And I know that there are a few scenarios that get Miami into the championship game as well.
And I don't know what the scenarios are.
I'm sure it's easier for Pitt to get there because they're only a one lost team.
but if Cal beats SMU next week
and Wake Forest beats Duke next week
and then Miami beats Pitt
then Miami's in so like it's not that far off there either so
but if Virginia and SMU win next week
it's over it's Virginia and SMU
they would have the tiebreakers over Pitt
so it wouldn't matter if Pitt won.
Right. Right.
Shut out because those two beat Louisville and Pitt didn't
yeah and SMU is coming off of a huge win
They'd beat the crap out of Louisville on Saturday, 38 to 6.
And Kevin Jennings was it, 350 yards and four tuttees in this game?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And SMU's defense was awesome.
Like, they've been the strength of this team for a lot of the year.
You've got to see them both kind of at their full power of the offense and the defense today.
And Ari, I'm trying to figure out, because I'm doing brackatology after the show, like, who do I pick to,
be the the ac c champ i think i might pick sm u i mean i would probably just try to figure out who
you think would be favored in uh in their games next week and but i think smu is going to be favored
against cow yeah i mean like favor is going to be favored against virginia tech
yeah i i didn't say that right i just who do you think will be favored when smu plays
virginia if they both play like i i the way smu is playing right now i think smu would be yeah i i mean
The way that SMU played on Saturday probably is worthy of that.
So, you know, you're doing the best you can.
You're not Ms. Clio.
I think SMU is a rational pick there.
Now, I don't know what the bottom half you're going to really go together.
Yeah.
No, it's a, it's a.
Every conference, but the Big Ten has been insane this year, right?
Yes.
The SEC.
Yeah, I mean, has the SEC, is Texas A&M being undefeated the insane part?
Because we're just not used to that.
Yeah.
Oklahoma being a dead man walking team three weeks ago or four weeks ago to like
That's probably the under the undertaker yeah, but like yeah they they popped right back up
They beat Bama and they beat Missouri I watched that whole game and I think there is some
You know questions about whether excuse me Oklahoma's offense is good enough
But their defense is really nasty they play tough you know for a while there I was like oh Alabama hangover
a quarter and a half in, you know,
Missou had a chance at the back door cover there
at the end of the game, but it never really felt like
Missouri was going to win. So I'm, and
I thought the ball for eight
minutes and only came in with a field goal in that first
drive, I was like, I think Oklahoma's going to be
okay. Yeah.
There was
a pass to Coleman late
in the game on a fourth down. It was fourth
they were down 17 to 6
and they went forward on fourth down
like deep inside. I think they were inside
the Oklahoma 25 and Perbuella
put a nice little pass up into the end zone and it bounced off of Coleman's fingertips that
would have brought them within, you know, three. Instead, it remained a two possession game and
that was when it was over. But like Oklahoma's offense, you know, it might come back to bite
them, but their defense can win the many game they play, I think. So did you watch any of the LSU
Western Kentucky game? I mean, I popped in on it. You know, I'm already not feeling well. I didn't
want to throw up, but I'm just saying, what are the chances that LSU scores a point against
Oklahoma next week? Yeah, no, that's a team that's, you know, I think LSU and Florida fans can
just hold hands and just be like, let's just wait until after the Egg Bowl, right? Like, is that
the mode we're in right now? Please let me just tell us what's going to happen. We could get on with our
lives. You know, you got married young and you were like, I don't even know, like what texting was like
back when you met your wife didn't exist like you know right so like you never had those moments
where it's like I really like a girl I don't know if she likes me or you're going through
something and like you're sitting next to your phone and you're just waiting for it to light up
and it be her you know dude you know you know what I'm talking about like is that not florida
and lSU just waiting for lane kiffin to just be like hey babe what are you free this weekend
sup you you up yeah that you yeah I don't know about the you up text but just any text or any
sort of like. Oh, come on. It's Lane. It's got to be a you uptext. I guess it is a you up text for
Lane given. All right. Before we, while we're talking playoff picture, before we get into the
non-playoff teams that were just injured. Well, we got a few more playoff picture ones, but
Notre Dame. Notre Dame could have scored a million points against Syracuse. This was a
bloodbath from the get-go. Have you seen a team jump out to a 21-nothing lead without touching the
ball on offense before i was trying to think of like the last time i saw something like that yeah
usf jumped to a 14 nothing lead the other night against utsa without touching the ball
on offense but but not 21 yeah um i think they were up 35 to nothing with five offensive
plays 70 to seven Notre Dame wins this game and it was not as close as the score would
indicate you know it was yeah it came into tonight andy really not wanting to litigate
the Miami Notre Dame debate but like for the Notre Dame people here I want you to know
that if Notre Dame and Miami played on Saturday next week I would think Notre Dame would
win like I like I'm watching the same games that you're watching and that's why the
committee's got them where they are and that's why they're going to get in yeah
Yeah, they're really good.
Jeremiah Love is a beast.
I think CJ Carr is playing.
I mean, like, listen,
somebody texted me.
He's like, was producer river playing quarterback for Syracuse tonight?
I was like, I mean, basically.
But, you know, I think that like if you're Notre Dame and you were playing with a chip on your shoulder,
like this is a score that, you know, it's kind of hard to drop somebody who, you know,
beat a team 70 to 7, right?
like well that's not going to be and they weren't and the thing is they really weren't trying to do style points
they just kept scoring and it didn't feel like they were trying like overdoing it they were up 35 to
nothing i think with like five seconds off the clock in the second quarter so you know that wasn't
style points that was just dominance at home against the team that is just not very good and you know
Speaking of style points, Andy, I think that's a nice segue to the team that we've been directly comparing them to, which was another game.
Yes, the Miami Hurricanes.
Yes.
I don't know where you were when this was going on, but Miami did go for style points.
Miami was winning by 27-17.
Yeah, they were winning by 10.
Virginia Tech was calling timeouts at the end of the game, and there was like 20 seconds left.
And then Mario Cristobal, you know, Carson Beck threw a 25-yard pass or 20-yard pass to Malachi Tony.
in the end zone who caught it.
Obviously, making the
score look more aesthetically pleasing to
Obviously covering the spread, Ari, the 16.
And a half point spread.
Actually, wasn't it 17 and a half?
It was 16 and a half when we picked it last Monday.
It might have been 17 and a half when the game went off.
Well, that's good.
I need that.
It was important for a lot of people.
Yeah, great teams cover.
But I mean, I watched this game.
And like there was this graphic that was floating around
of like an ESPN.
like lower third from like their show saying like Miami survives a scare and I was like there
was no scare like let me be clear they were they dominated the entire game Virginia Tech scored
a late touchdown to like make the score look closer than the game was and then they popped
on that extra touchdown at the end but you if you were Miami and you were a Miami family family
family you got to be honest with yourselves like you wanted Miami to put up a 70 to 7 today right
like Notre Dame putting up the 70 to 7 and that's why I don't think they're going to get any
closer? Because I don't think there were any results that are going to make them get closer.
And that's the thing.
If Utah had lost, if YYU had lost, can we go to Utah? Let's go, let's go to the Utah.
Yeah. Kansas State game. Because Kansas State jumps out to a huge lead on Utah. They're
averaging like 15 yards of carry through the first quarter. It was insane. Utah comes
back. Kansas State then builds a lead again. And then Utah comes back. Devin Dampier was awesome
down the stretch.
Yeah.
That was a really thrilling game.
Utah gave up 472 yards, I believe,
and they won at the last second.
It was really fun.
Utah gave up 574 yards.
They gave up 472 passing.
Rushing.
Rushing. Sorry, yeah, rushing.
Yeah.
Yeah. That would have been wild if it was passing with Habri Johnson.
But, yeah, no, he only threw for 102 yards.
They got shredded.
But, you know, I don't know what a score like this or a game like this does,
especially because Kansas State, I believe, is under 500.
What does that do for you?
Because, like, I feel like the thing that's been bolstering Utah's presence or ranking in the CFP rankings has been the computer love.
But, like, if you, like, look at, you know, the placement of their, of where they are in comparison to who they've beaten and their record, you know, I think that they, I would be hard pressed to explain why they're ahead of Miami, too.
and I wonder if a game like this is the reason or the catalyst that causes Miami to jump them on Tuesday.
Maybe, but they're not going to jump.
I don't think they'll jump BYU, which has to win against Utah and then went Cincinnati and won.
In BYU, I thought, you know, they beat Cincinnati had a bunch of crazy.
There was like an unforced fumble when a guy, a receiver just dropped the ball when he was tearing up or like rolling over on his ankle.
The game was closer than the final score was, although BYU did win the game.
But here's the thing that is just going to stand out to me.
The committee members said it, or, you know, themselves last week, you know, Notre Dame and Miami are not in the same pool right now.
And I don't know that a lot of our listeners understand how they vote.
They vote in pods.
And I think it's pods of three, right, Andy?
Yeah, it's usually groups of three.
So what they're saying is when they're comparing Notre Dame with what they consider to be like teams, they don't consider Miami one of those teams.
They consider Miami to be kind of a tier below.
But if Miami gets jumps Utah or gets closer to Notre Dame and then enters Notre Dame's pod,
then that's when the head-to-head would come into play because you're getting directly compared to them when you're not right now.
It sounds confusing.
That's how they do it.
So like if I'm Miami, I'm pretty bummed because there was a chance that both of the teams in front of you directly could have lost tonight.
And they didn't.
And that keeps you, that keeps buffer teams between you and Notre Dame because like you're,
number one goal if you're a hurricane is you want to be as closely ranked to
Notre Dame as possible. So when selection Sunday comes, you are being directly compared
to them. That that's a possibility, you know, I do. So
what were you going to look at the Pittsburgh weather for next Saturday? Oh,
boy. I don't think we're going to have this debate anymore. I don't think the
debate's going to last. The high is 36, the low is 25.
the game's at pit right yeah the game is that pit yeah i wonder what the spread of that's going to be
i mean we've been calling that they might lose a pit for a month so um you know we'll see and you know
what listen Notre Dame to me is a really good team and i think Notre Dame could literally beat
anybody they play so if Miami loses then the debate is over and then we lovingly usher
Notre Dame into the playoff where they belong so like I'm not you know it's almost like you get so
married to making a point over the course of a six week period and maybe it's like I'm aired on
this you know being vulnerable of like I've thought this for six weeks and I've been explaining it to
people and battling with people about the way that the process works and then at the end of the road
it might it might push comes a shove we might not even see it play out yeah but if it does
it'll be interesting to see how it is but if Miami makes the I mean if Notre Dame makes the
and then you and I are asked to do our brackets of like how far remember like you know at the
beginning of every year we fill up the whole bracket like I will have Notre Dame advancing like
my Miami opinion isn't of the notion that I don't think that Notre Dame is good or that I'm
blind when I watch them play I'm watching the same games that you guys are all but the only thing
that I have a hard time with is if you look at my record against the spread this year
and how I've picked games even though I agree with Notre Dame fans
that Notre Dame looks good or looks more improved.
I can't, like, think that what I think will happen take precedent over the results that we have.
And that's been my point from the beginning.
So, yeah, Notre Dame is really good.
And I don't know if people needed to hear that, but it's like saying, like, I need air to breathe.
It's pretty obvious at this point.
All right.
We got one more team that we haven't talked about that is still in the mix for the playoff.
Vanderbilt beat the crap out of Kentucky.
This is one of those games.
Like, when you're talking about Vanderbilt being in the playoff mix, you're like, okay, but they're going to drop one.
They're not supposed to.
There's no way Vanderbilt's just a roll into the final weekend of the season.
One win away from the playoff or from potentially making the playoff.
I don't know if they will.
But they crushed Kentucky, 45 to 17.
It was never close.
It was 24 to 3 at halftime.
at the beginning of the fourth quarter, it was 45 to 3.
So Vandy destroys Kentucky.
Meanwhile, the team Vandy plays next week.
Tennessee goes to Florida, goes up 31-0,
ends up winning 31-11.
So Florida is not getting shut out streak.
I don't know, I don't know of an efficient way to say that.
Florida has not been shut out since 1988.
That streak remains alive.
Is that why everybody was cheering, like when they kicked that
field goal? Yes. They kicked a sad. It's funny, this is the second time we've mentioned the
Florida, Oregon State, Las Vegas Bowl from a few years ago on this show, but they kicked a sad
field goal on that one to keep the streak alive as well. Okay. So they're like, I was like,
why are they kicking a field goal here? And then I thought the fans were cheering like sarcastically
of like, oh, big three we got there, 31 to 3 now. And like they were. No, they were cheering because
the longest streak in college football. The longest not getting shut out.
streak in college football history so that's cool that is why but Tennessee broke a streak of
its own because they had not won in the swamp since 2003 and whatever voodoo is that they just
obliterated it by scoring immediately and then holding florida to one you totally yard in the
first quarter yeah i do think we have to point out this irony about this game too andy
Urban Meyer, I believe, was inducted into the Ring of Honor at Florida.
And Urban Meyer was the person who said in the offseason
that Tennessee was screwed when Nico left.
So he got a front row seat to seeing how screwed they were on Saturday.
Not screwed.
And Tennessee can now knock Vanderbilt out of playoff contention
if they can win this game next week.
Oh, one more potential playoff team forgot.
Jonathan in the chat.
How about the JMU Dukes today?
they're not going to make the playoff because the American champ's going to make it.
But they almost lost to Washington State.
Congratulations.
You didn't lose to Washington State.
But you almost did.
Yeah, they're good.
I'm going to eliminate them, I think, from the playoff piece I do on Tuesday.
Like, we're far enough along now.
Well, you mean, like, the team that lost to Louisville probably shouldn't be compared to SMU that beat Louisville 38 to 6 today?
I don't know how those two things equate, sorry.
Although Miami lost a little bit too, so we can.
Yeah, I think, like, I just don't think that they're going to get in over.
Like, I was reserving the possibility that American would just explode and that everybody would lose a bunch.
But I think that the-
East Carolina did lose to UTSA, very strange loss to UTSA for East Carolina.
But I think it's going to be Tulane or North Texas.
So, or Navy.
um yeah so like i those are the playoff teams did anybody else play a you know we have to talk about
michigan they didn't blow it today oh yeah we do michigan crushed maryland today um yeah and i don't
know if i want to drag you and we were 45 minutes in and i kind of just like you know i want
to drag you into the pits of hell here okay okay go go for well first of all round of applause
to michigan for not ruining our weekend next weekend i want to thank you personally
from the bottom of my heart for taking care of business
and not only taking care of business
but like that year would played really well.
Like in this game, I believe he started off
9 for 11 for over 150 yards
or whatever on a few touchdowns.
Like he played one of his better games.
They looked more efficient offensively.
And that sets up, of course,
what we believe to be a play-in game
with Ohio State at home next weekend.
If they win, my presumption is that they would be in at 10 and 2.
And people have been asking,
because now we're at that point of the year where you have to start looking ahead, Andy.
If Michigan beats Ohio State, are they locked to be in?
I think yes, because they'll have the best win in the country.
I agree with you, but there's a lot of people out there that think that they would still have a hard time getting in.
And their losses would be to USC, which is probably going to be 9 and 3, and to Oklahoma,
which we think will be 10 and 2 in a playoff team,
on the road.
But here's where it gets tricky.
Texas would be compared to them directly.
And then Texas will have beaten the team that beat them.
But at the same time, they haven't beat Ohio State.
Michigan will have beaten the team that beat Texas.
I just don't know how it's possible for them not to get in.
So I do think that we should be.
If they beat Ohio State, they're getting in.
Yeah.
and I don't mean to put the crosshairs back on Notre Dame,
but if you, like, compare the two resumes,
like Michigan would be superior in that regard.
So, like, I mean, it just, I don't see how.
I don't know it would come down to that.
I do think a 10 and 2 Vandy probably gets left out in that scenario.
Well, 10 and 2 Vandy is eliminated in my mind.
They're not getting in at all.
Like, are they getting in?
How are they getting in?
Depends on what happens.
What scenario is going to present itself where they get it?
I, I, Oklahoma loses to LSU.
Ole Miss loses to Mississippi.
state.
Yeah.
With Tennessee,
I mean, nothing's going on with Ole Miss that would cause him to be distracted.
Yeah, that's true.
That's a weird game, too.
Maybe somebody will, like, do a dog-pissing celebration.
No, I think, I think Ole Miss would still be fine, at least with regard to Vanderbilt,
because of the win against Oklahoma, because that road winning against Oklahoma would keep
them up.
And the winning in Tulane's actually going to help them a lot, too.
Yeah. The big 12 placement of 11 and 12, BYU and Utah is an interesting buffer because they would have to hop over Miami. They would have to hop over Utah and BYU at the end. And I don't know if Tennessee win would do that because Tennessee, if they lose next week, will probably drop out of the top 25. And then they will be left with no top 25 wins, right?
Right.
The Vanderbilt beat somebody on this list that I'm forgetting about? I don't think so, right?
no
or they beat Missouri
which Missouri should be
falling out
anyway
they're on their way out
yeah
yeah
so yeah
maybe not
but but the
with with Vandy
but the Michigan
10 and 2
yeah I think they'd be in
yeah
it does set up a
golly
we got the game
we wanted
yeah
you know
let's be honest
wasn't the best slate today.
Okay.
We know that.
But fuck if it didn't set up an amazing weekend next weekend, dude.
It's going to be great.
And before we talk about that amazing weekend, I do want to give some love.
Well, I'm sorry, Michigan State.
I do want to say I'm sorry to Michigan State.
You were right there.
I thought you were going to win that first Big Ten game.
you're right there.
I don't know what happens with Jonathan Smith at Michigan State.
I really don't.
It seemed like he was getting some momentum to get brought back.
We haven't talked about Mike Norvell at all at Florida State.
That game on Friday night with NC State felt like the end.
But Mike Norvel is still employed as of midnight Sunday.
So maybe he's going to be.
Maybe they don't have the money.
But yeah, sorry, I'm sorry, Michigan State.
I'm just sorry.
Wisconsin, on the other hand, has turned into a wagon now that they've decided to keep Luke Fickle.
They beat Brett Bilema.
Remember, Brett Bilema beating Wisconsin, out Wisconsin-in-Wisconsin
was what caused them to fire Paul Chris and hire Luke Fickle.
Well, 27 to 10, Wisconsin just thumps Illinois.
and grinds it out on the ground.
Averages 5.3 yards of carry.
That's just the power of everybody,
rubbing everybody, man.
Like, that's the power of that.
You know, he got the locker room back.
Everyone's, you know, just vibes are high.
Yes.
I do, I have been thinking about, like,
how Big Cat's doing, though.
Big Cat had to, they have a, so we,
we are obviously Medello podcast.
They have their own sponsor of, of,
with a similar drink.
uh and big cat sent sent cases and cases of that drink to state street brots which is a place
i took you when we were madison incredible by the way yeah yeah and uh but yeah no we we are a medello
show so you grab yourself a medello stay game day ready all season long the medello will be
flowing in michigan this week because that is going to be spectacular but yes you got the especial
are we getting af for it on friday oh we may have to what what are the vibes on friday like
are the vibes like watching ball and drinking with your boys or vibes or is that it maybe i mean
we we we we had to check with the bosses like hey we're doing a thing here but if we have
some medellos is that going to be okay yeah like if already has 11 medellos and is slurring his
words at the end of the night like is that okay like i mean i we've never done it before
i think we enjoy medello in moderation but yeah no but like yeah i just want to feel
really good, you know, and that's what it does. Absolutely. So I think we, I think we do enjoy a
couple of medellas on Friday. I think we need to. I mean, like the day is like jam packed, dude.
Yeah. I mean, when you think about the games that are being played and then the drama that's
happening on top of it, Friday night's going to be quite the banger. So yeah. Yeah. So congratulations
to the badgers. Congratulations to Northwestern, bowl eligible Northwestern.
138.35 against Minnesota.
Hell of a job, David Braun.
All right, let's talk about next week.
Let's talk about next week because we mentioned Michigan and Ohio State,
which this is what should happen.
It should mean something.
It should be for something.
And it is for something for everybody because obviously Ohio State would clinch a spot
in the Big Ten championship game.
Ohio State's not getting knocked out of the playoff if they lose.
But the psychic damage of another loss.
to Michigan, incalculable, incalculable.
Did you watch any of the Ohio State game on Saturday?
Very little of it.
Okay, I watched a lot of it.
It was because it was one of the few games that was on in the morning.
Very bizarre game.
Like, Ohio State was doing some weird stuff.
They didn't have their top two receivers.
And, like, Ryan Day was subbing in Lincoln Keenholz,
and they were, like, throwing the ball and running the ball a bunch of weird ways.
Also, it was the Michigan game plan from last year.
Yeah, I don't know.
Was the Michigan game plan last year running a bunch of grab-ass players
with your backup quarterback when the game's in question in the first half?
Like, I don't know what that was.
But Ohio State looked completely disinterested in playing today,
especially in the first half.
And then they still won by, you know, 42 to 9.
And they kind of woke up.
But like there were not, like, I feel like there was only like one catch or one big play
from a receiver in the entire first half, some of their younger receivers.
Mylan Graham and, you know, a few of the other guys weren't playing for some reason.
And then they came into the second half.
It was just a bizarre game.
But then afterward, like they asked Ryan Day what it was like to be like Michigan Week.
And he didn't say anything interesting because Ryan Day is going to being buttoned up.
But like his his demeanor, if you're an Ohio state fan, it probably felt pretty good to see it.
Like he doesn't look like it's, I think that what they call it in Columbus, Ohio is sphincter mode.
like it didn't like like well i'm going to write about this you know probably so he seems unbothered
is what you're saying yeah like it didn't seem like oh god it's michigan week it's like yeah we're
ready to play kind of a deal um and i i really do believe and listen i've thought that ohio state
was going to win the last four so like i don't know what my opinion is but like it does
seem like ohio states in a pretty good position at least emotionally um going into the week and
obviously you know every single you know piece of intent
you can get in terms of like where they are mentally is going to be important this week.
But let's feel good.
But yeah.
Let's do the rest of this chronologically.
At noon on Black Friday, noon Eastern time, Black Friday, the Egg Bowl.
Ole Miss Mississippi State.
Look, Ole Miss is going to be heavily favored in this game.
But we're all going to be watching because what the hell is going to happen?
Is word of where Elaine Kiffin is going or what he's doing going to leak?
Or do we have to wait until Saturday?
Will he say something after the game?
All of that.
So we'll be on Lane Kiffin Watch.
And then, of course, if Mississippi State happens to pull the upset, oh, my God, it's, everything goes crazy.
So you got that one.
3.30 p.m. on Black Friday, you've got Georgia and Georgia Tech from Mercedes-Benz Stadium.
Had the Pitt Georgia Tech game not happened, I might be a little bit more optimistic about Georgia Tech's chances in this game.
I realized it was a very good game last year,
eight overtimes in Sanford Stadium.
I don't think it's going to be like that this year.
But if it is, that'll be very exciting.
And then there will be questions about lots of things.
But Georgia Tech is probably not making the ACC championship game.
Loses most of the tiebreakers.
So I don't know if it matters.
Indiana Purdue, the old Oak and Barrel, Indiana is going to crush Purdue.
Oil her up.
Boob.
Indiana is going to be 12.0.
At 7.30 p.m. Eastern time on Black Friday, Texas A&M goes to Austin.
Texas A&M can't get knocked out of the playoff. They're 11 and O.
But this is sort of like Ohio State and Michigan, where it's just important for A&M to win this one.
It just matters a lot.
yeah it's putting the stake through the heart of the creature that has tormented you yeah
yeah all that totally you know you want to you know you're going to the playoff no matter what
but you know if texas an m loses then they aren't in the c c championship game right and that's
something that i you know in all the discourse that you know we have about whether georgia
would prefer to go to the c championship game or not like it actually it should really
matter to A&M people.
They really wants to go.
Yeah, they want to go.
They want to win it.
That's a source of pride.
They also don't want Texas in the thing.
So, like, and that's like the other thing, too,
is that we were talking about Vanderbilt going and 10 and 2.
It's like, okay, you know, if Texas wins, they're eliminated, if they're not already, right?
Like, there's no way they could send Vandy over them, considering the head-to-head
and the quality win that Texas would have that Vanderbilt doesn't.
Right.
They don't want Texas in the tournament.
like they don't want Texas to have anything this year because so many times in the history of this rivalry, Texas has everything and A&M has nothing.
Like A&M doesn't want to go into their postseason run losing your rival on the road.
So that said, Arch Manning also put up a bunch of yards and they played really well and it was won't be the worst defense in the SEC,
but they beat Arkansas 52 to 37 on Saturday.
And I think it was statistically, I don't know if this is off the top of my head, but I think it was Arch Manning's best game statistically.
So they are, you know, I don't know.
It's not going to be easy.
You know that's not going to be an easy game.
I don't know what the spread.
A&M's not going to just blow them out.
Yeah.
So that's going to be fun.
By the way, while we are doing probably our live reaction show on Friday night,
the Territorial Cup, your alma mater, Arizona, playing Arizona State,
the battle of two, eight and three teams that, well, Arizona State, we thought might be eight and three.
We had no idea Arizona would be.
Arizona State, when Sam and Levin went down for the season, we assumed there's no shot.
Arizona State is actually still mathematically alive in the Big 12, excuse me, in the Big 12 race, but...
I don't want to put you on the spot, but do you have the scenario there in front of you?
It requires Utah to win
BYU to lose to TCU
and Texas Tech to win, I believe.
And then Arizona State would win the tiebreaker.
Let me run that real quick, but I think that's the one.
Let me talk about this.
Arizona State was in kind of a battle with Colorado on Saturday, Andy,
and then they dropped 21 straight points in the fourth quarter
to make this game look lopsided.
Now, one was an 88-yard run,
and there was a turnover, I believe.
But, like, that is, you know, Jeff Sims,
11 for 24, two touchdowns, 206 yards,
throwing it, and then Relique Brown,
the USC transfer running pack,
had 255 yards rushing in this game.
So, yeah, and, you know.
Okay, so they would, yeah,
Arizona State needs BYU to lose to UCF.
That's the out of, out of the,
out of the left field result you need.
Yeah, the, uh,
that's not going to happen UCF's done this year so I wouldn't worry about that don't
don't doubt nitro um I'm gonna do that they beat Oklahoma State 17 14 there you're not
yeah I'm gonna say like did you watch today at all well I mean no one did but it it was
not pretty so but yeah like that's a I mean Arizona's eight and three man Brent Brennan
big bounce back I know we talked about that a little bit on the show this
week, Andy. But, you know, that's a rivalry game that means a lot to the people of Arizona.
And, you know, U of A is in a pretty advantageous position for them, considering where they
were a year ago. So, yeah, who knows? All right. So we move on to Saturday where the Lane
Kiffin extravaganza may overtake everything. We're supposed to get word on Saturday, whatever
that's going to be. So at some point Saturday, Lane Kippen will say something. I don't know when
I don't know if he'll do
an episode of the decision
like they fly in Jim Gray
and he's like
I'm taking my talents to wherever
do you think that
when we find out
and I'm sure it'll probably be a leak
but like
what do you think the vagus odds are
on like traditional
leak report
whatever or like
no way he gets to his announcement
without it leaking first
okay but there is a
probably an underdog there
which is Lane Kiffin Antics.
Like he goes on game day or he just tweets it?
Or he like rips his shirt off or says something in the post game news conference or I don't know.
Friday night?
Or Friday after the game.
I don't know or as his team's running.
Yeah, we'll be Friday afternoon.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe he runs out onto the tunnel and during the pregame interview he goes, my team's fired up.
I just told him I'm coming back.
I don't know.
Anything that would not be typical.
You have to keep in mind there.
But yeah, like drama and game is really the best, you know,
cross-section of that situation.
So I'm excited about that.
So Saturday, we don't have game times for everything yet.
Some of the leagues have not set kickoff times yet.
So I don't know exactly when some of these are kicking off.
Texas Tech plays at West Virginia.
We don't think that's going to be a problem for Texas Tech.
Oregon plays at Washington, big rivalry, tough place to play Husky Stadium.
but we talked about this.
This is not the type of team Dan Lending loses to.
UCF, BYU.
We just talked about that.
Miami, Pittsburgh, 35 degrees for the high.
We don't have a kickoff time yet, but 26 for the low.
Virginia Tech, Virginia, if Virginia wins, they're in the ACC championship game.
It's that simple for them.
Charlotte Tulane, Tulane's got a win to stay in the American championship game.
Obviously, Ohio State, Michigan.
about that. LSU, Oklahoma, we've talked about that. I'm not sure LSU's going to score.
Vanderbilt, Tennessee. Who boy, that's going to be spicy, even if it doesn't matter.
Even if the playoff is already set, even if Vandy's out, they're still going to be fighting over it.
7.30 p.m. Eastern Time. The Iron Bowl, Ari. This one could get weird.
Chance of grab ass, 60%.
Oh, my God.
Did you see what Deuce Knight did to Mercer?
He did.
He had like six carries for four touchdowns on 175 yards in the second quarter of that game.
Yeah, I did see that.
And, you know, I think we got, you were mentioning this earlier, but like, we were like,
oh, Deuce Knight's going to go off against Mercer and he's going to go, he's not going to play
against Alabama, right?
I don't think.
I think this was to allow Ashton Daniels to redshirt still.
Okay.
So he can start against Alabama and still redshirt.
Mercer came into the game 9-1, by the way.
Yes.
But, yeah, that was fun.
So this game's adjourned here.
Auburn, of course, playing for bowl eligibility.
Alabama playing for its playoff life.
What will Kail and DeBoer wear first?
I don't know.
Did you check the weather?
I have not checked the weather.
Okay.
Well, I checked the weather for the first time ever, and I want to tell you something.
Did you peep the weather in Ann Arbor next weekend?
I didn't.
It's 32 degrees with a low of 25 and like there's a chance of snow.
Yeah, give me some snow.
Let's go.
Which means that you and I are going to be pulled over on the side of the road in Plymouth, Michigan,
doing our Lane Kippen live video on the way to the wind up there.
Probably.
Pack a puffer.
Do you have a puffer?
I have a ski job.
jacket. I can get one if I need to. I'm sure everybody here knows my travel plans, but I'm flying to Vegas on Wednesday, doing Thanksgiving in Las Vegas with my wife's family and her grandmother and my parents are coming up. And then I'm flying in the opposite direction. Like, how does a human being pack for a one, two, like, leg trip like that? Well, the clothing you need for Vegas doesn't take a much space. So it'll be fine. Yeah. I don't know what to do. I almost would rather freeze than pack a puffer jacket. Like, what am I going to do with that?
thing for two days.
Freeze.
Your Auburn weather forecast.
High 57, low 39,
mostly cloudy.
It's a 7.30 p.m. kick,
so we're thinking probably in the 40s.
Beautiful night.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun night.
Jordan Harris Stadium will be rocking.
We'll be rocking.
Yeah.
next weekend's slate is like supercharged um we got a we got a super chat here andy if you want to
keep this party going yeah we've had a fight between the oklahoma fans and the nter dame fans in
the chat for like reasons what were they fighting gonna make it if you went out so stop complaining
but uh oh you fan here wanted texas or usc and the cfp but they can't win so i'll be satisfied
with exposing fraudulent notre dame uh maybe
I don't think you're going to play right away.
I think you both have to win some to get there.
But I appreciate the chat because we do have to mourn the loss of Lincoln Riley's
return to Norman.
That's true.
That is sad.
That would have been so much fun.
What is the juiciest storyline we could get?
What if Notre Dame and Miami wound up eight and nine and played again?
That would be the best.
I don't think that's going to happen, and the story doesn't make sense anymore.
I think that the story is interesting because of the threat that somebody could be left out.
Yeah.
I think that an Ohio State-Michigan rematch would be juicy in terms of, like, juicy things that could happen.
You know what else could happen, theoretically?
A&M Texas rematch, theoretically could happen.
Theoretically, you are much higher on the chances of a nine and three Texas getting in than I am.
Yeah, I'm just, we had a two-minute discussion about Vanderbilt getting in.
So if you're going to have that discussion, then we have to have that other one.
Okay.
Trying to think here.
I mean, anything that Texas Tech touches is juicy,
but I don't know about like,
we're talking about like sexy like us weekly,
U.S. weekly or us weekly storylines, right?
Yeah.
I mean, we don't know what's going to have with Ole Miss yet.
Because we don't know what Lane's going to say.
I mean, you might have interim head coach for Ole Miss,
but there's no like intersection of like coaches that were at a place.
or anything like that that I can see looking at this.
This is going to be so much fun, Ari.
We'll get you ready for the week.
We've got Bracketology coming on Sunday,
plus early previews of the biggest games.
I think, you know what those are going to be.
It's going to be Michigan, Ohio State,
and it's going to be the Iron Bowl.
Or is it going to be Texas A&M Texas?
Who knows?
I don't know.
It's going to be amazing.
That's all I know.
We're going to have a huge week for you.
Don't worry.
I know it's a holiday.
We'll have shows for you.
You're traveling.
I get it.
But don't worry.
We'll be there for you.
And we are going to have so much fun in the next week.
I can't even stand it.
I'm so excited.
Ari.
Let's go.
One more thing.
Always trample on your clothes.
One person in the chat mentioned that there is a possibility that Mario Cristobal
would have to play Oregon.
That would be one.
Oh, I'll take it.
Let's go.
So, yeah, go ahead.
Sorry, get out of here.
Bye, everybody.
We'll talk to you soon.
