Andy & Ari On3 - College Football Week 14 PICKS: Ohio State-Michigan, Alabama-Auburn, Texas A&M-Texas, Miami-Pitt

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

As the final weekend of the regular season in college football is on the horizon, it's time to pick this week's biggest rivalries on the slate. As every game Andy & Ari select has a home underdog, wil...l the road favorites prevail? Watch here as Andy & Ari pick this LOADED slate to close out the regular season in College Football. (0:00) On Today’s Episode(0:46) Presenting Sponsor(2:30) Intro: Week 14 Slate(10:00) Lane Kiffin Watch(11:24) Florida State retaining Mike Norvell(16:55) Cal Fires Justin Wilcox(19:08) Gametime(20:10) Records vs Spread(21:44) Ole Miss at Mississippi State (+7.5)(32:11) Iowa at Nebraska (+5.5)(39:37) Huel(41:07) Georgia vs Georgia Tech (+13)(47:08) Texas A&M at Texas (+2.5)(57:10) Arizona at Arizona State (+1.5)(1:01:24) PaniniAmerica.net(1:04:54) Ohio State at Michigan (+10)(1:17:03) Miami at Pitt (+6.5)(1:23:07) Alabama at Auburn (+5.5)(1:37:13) Closing Out Our show is presented by BetMGM! If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works: 1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB.2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game.3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sureyou use bonus code CFB when you sign up! Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary. See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US). Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This show is also brought to you by Gametime! Take the guesswork out of buying college football tickets with Gametime.Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code STAPLES for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Swipe. Tap. Ticket. Go. Download the Gametime app today! Visit Gametime.co. We’re also brought to you by Panini! Panini delivers the most collectible sports cards and memorabilia on the planet. Check out the new exclusive Arch Manning collection or the Panini Prizm Draft Picks College Football series. Visit PaniniAmerica.net to start your collection today.  Get Huel today with this exclusive offer for New Customers of 15% OFF with code STAPLES15 at https://huel.com/STAPLES15 (Minimum $75 purchase) Watch our show on YouTube! https://youtu.be/2keeR6KZowQ Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Interested in partnering with the show? Email advertise@on3.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of Andy Nari on three presented by BetMGM, it is a pick show and it is a wild pick show. We pick nine games in which the home team is the underdog in every single one. We're talking about, of course, the Egg Bowl. Can't imagine why anybody want to watch that. Texas A&M at Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, the Iron Bowl, and more. that have playoff implications, games that have conference title implications, all of them, all of them with home underdogs, plus an update on the coaching carousel today on Andy and Ari on 3, presented by BetMGM. We are presented by BedMGM. We use BedMGM lines and totals. And you can join us by joining BedMGM. If you have not signed up for BedMGM yet, use the bonus code CFB. as in college football, CFB,
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Starting point is 00:02:22 Don't forget, if you haven't signed up for bed MGM yet, use the bonus code CFB and get your $1,500 first bet offer today. Welcome to Andy and Ari on 3 presented by BetMGM. We have an incredible pick show for you today. Nine games. The home team is the underdog in all of them. I'm counting Georgia Tech as a home team here, Ari. I know they're playing at Mercedes-Benz Stadium, but it's two miles from their home stadium.
Starting point is 00:02:52 And let's be real, there were going to be a bunch of Georgia fans there anyway. Looking at the slate of games, looking at what we have coming up, this weekend requires a fridge. You're cracking a medello? It's a fridge cigarette. You know, Andy, I think you should crack your medello. I crack the D.C.
Starting point is 00:03:11 because it's a little early in the morning, but I think that if there's ever an appropriate time to go by a rack of Modelo, I think this is the week. With that theme, I think that there is a, you know, you like checking the weather and you keep doing that. Hold on, I got to check the Pittsburgh weather again.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Go ahead. There's a high probability of, carnage this weekend, I think. I don't know what it's going to be. I don't know who it's going to be, but I feel like on Saturday at 11.30 p.m. Eastern time, we are going to be fried in the most beautiful way. And I think we're going to have a really good content week, you know, talking about the rankings on Tuesday. We're going into Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I hope everybody has a wonderful holiday. But like my sneaky suspicion based on the lines in the games that we're going to predict today means that next week on Tuesday, I think we're going to be having very different discussions about things that haven't been pertinent yet based on the results of that screen you have up there right now. Yeah, our live show reacting to this week's college football playoff rankings, I don't think is going to be real eventful. No. I'm not saying that because I don't want you to watch.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I just don't think the ranks are going to change very much. Yeah. You know, because this week and didn't have a great slate of games that, like, you know, feature two teams that. impacted things and there were no major upsets. So there was only one team that was still in contention for the CFP last week that almost lost, and that was Utah who won in a thrilling game over Kansas State at home, 5147.
Starting point is 00:04:46 But other than that, everybody won. So I don't know how much is going to change from that standpoint. And frankly, I'm kind of tired of talking about Miami and Notre Dame. So we've got to come up with a new angle. But we're going to talk about Miami because the forecast is Pittsburgh, temperature keeps dropping high 31 low 24 that's a noon kickoff in Pittsburgh I believe it's a new kickoff hold I don't wait wait wait I got to check the time on the game this is but I it is a noon kickoff I am just excited about this we are headed to Detroit by the way bed MGM hosting us at
Starting point is 00:05:20 the MGM Grand Casino in Detroit we will be there Friday and Saturday so Saturday morning early afternoon, we'll be gone because we'll be in Ann Arbor covering the Ohio State Michigan game. But all of the Black Friday games will be there in the sports book watching and then doing shows, live reaction shows, and our nightly wrap-up show on Friday night. Saturday, we'll be back in time for the end of the afternoon, the mid-afternoon games. We'll be there for the night games. So we'll be doing our normal post-game wrap-up show from the sportsbook at the MGM Grand in Detroit. Come join us. If you're around, Detroit come see us come hang because we want to hang we want to get to know people we want to put faces to names when we were in Columbus for our Modello activation earlier this year it was really cool to meet some people who listened to the show Andy I was walking in to get my daughter some frozen yogurt last night in Dallas and I was all I was walking in there was a person sitting on the bench who was just like hey love the show and I was like this is great like I love meeting people out into the one of my favorite things at the gym is when people
Starting point is 00:06:25 will come up to me and just show me their phone that they are listening to us in the gym. And frankly, I don't know how well I, you know, like our voices perform or help you in the squat rack, but I'll take it. I'm sure I could rile somebody up to get that last rep in. You know, if you're a Notre Dame plan, go to the gym. Andy, it has been, you know, happening more and more frequently where I'll be, because like when you and I are on planes, we're flying two places that funnel into the to the games. Right. It's a self-selecting sample. People are going to the games on those planes.
Starting point is 00:06:59 So we do see a lot of folks on the planes, yeah. So when we do see people on the planes, like if you're taking a trip to Atlanta from Dallas when Texas is playing at Georgia, there's a high likelihood that a lot of people are going to the game. But I have been sitting next to people on the plane quite frequently to and from games that are listening to our show that I'm seeing it. And I don't know if they have put it. Some have put it together and some haven't who they're sitting next to.
Starting point is 00:07:21 But it's such a humbling and an amazing experience. And I got to say, every single time I meet one of you in public, it makes my day. Every single time I see somebody reading or, you know, consuming what we do. It's amazing. And frankly, it's November 24th right now. I don't not know how we got to rivalry week so quickly. This season flew by. Yeah, I feel like we were just in Clemson watching LSU Clemson thinking we were watching two good teams.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah. So I wonder how many games we will watch this weekend of teams that we thought were good. I don't know if the game it's too late to change your mind on some of those. But every single game here is either a rivalry game or a game that impacts CFP implications or both. Yeah. And so there's one game we're not picking today. We pick nine every week. And I didn't leave this one out on purpose.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I just picked the nine I thought had the most import, you know, immediate. But this one does have playoff implications. I'm leaving it out because it messes up our theme and that's Vanderbilt Tennessee because the home team is favored in the Vandy Tennessee game that's the only difference
Starting point is 00:08:33 we're going to pick that game on Tuesday show because it also deserves to be picked Tennessee looked amazing against Florida Vandy looked great against Kentucky Tennessee's trying to spoil Vandy's potential playoff run I don't know if it'll get Vandy in if they go 10 and 2 but Tennessee would love to make sure both teams are 9 and 3
Starting point is 00:08:48 I am so fired up right now And like, if you are a person who was kind of like, last weekend, Slate was kind of boring. There weren't a lot of high leverage. Buddy, do I have news for you? And by the way, hot take, you know, every year we do like Thanksgiving side drafts and stuff. Like, you know what we've never done a random ranking of? What's that in the year?
Starting point is 00:09:09 Like, weeks in the year. Like, what are the best weeks in the year? Like, I think this is the best week in the year because it's football and food, the two Fs. And if you're lucky, the third F, I don't know, you know, what you have going on in your life, but for me, it's two F and, uh, you know, it's going to be a good time. I can't wait to. Your three S are way better than my three S's. So I have, I have two Fs, um, food and football, but yeah, no, it's going to be a really, really great week and, you know, Christmas week and Hanukkah week and all the, you know, holiday weeks are great.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But this is the best week on the calendar for me personally. So I can't wait to get that for it. And looking at these slate of games are all going to live up to the potential and Andy. I don't even care if I suck at picking games. I'm just excited to do it. Well, we're going to get to your record shortly. We're going to get to your record shortly, but not yet. It's not time yet.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah. We've got to talk a little coaching carousel news because we had some news on Sunday. And we also had some news on Friday. If you're wondering, hey, guys, why aren't you talking about Lane Kiffin right now? Wasn't there a big news on Friday? We did a reaction show immediately after the Lane Kiffin news came out. After Keith Carter, the Ole Miss AD dropped the news that Lane Kiffin was going to coach the Egg Bowl. and was going to reveal something about his future on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So, and if you're new to the show, like the one feature I think that we have as a show that hopefully will draw people in if you're new here is that like if something big happens, like you do not have to wait if it happens on a Friday night to get it. Like we are constantly. We don't have lives. We, we, we, there's something to react to. We're going to give it to you when you want it. So if you are three days removed from a major news event and you're listening to the show wondering why aren't we talking about this, just know that every single time that already exists on the internet somewhere. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:00 So you can go to the On Three Sports YouTube page or check in your podcast feed and you can hear exactly what we said about the whole Lane Kiffin situation. We're going to talk about that more as the week goes on because there's obviously a lot to unpack there. But we don't know what he's going to do yet. I know all the LSU people think he's going there. about nine days ago, all the Florida people thought he was going there. We'll see what happens. We don't know what's going to happen with him yet. Other coaching news on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Florida State said it's keeping Mike Norville. And I don't think they said it confidently. I think they said it in a way that suggests he's a lame duck. And I wrote a column today because I got really sick of people saying, oh, they saved $58 million by not firing Mike Norville. they most certainly did not save $58 million. If they have to fire Mike Norville next season, they're going to owe him like $48 million.
Starting point is 00:11:53 $49 million, I think. So you're just kicking the can down the road. You're still going to have to pay a bunch of money. Now, their board chair said they're going to make significant structural changes. I take that to mean they're going to hire a new front office, and this would be a front office that is more of an NFL-style one that would probably outlast the current coaching administration, if that makes sense, that would be one setting up for a post-Norvel future if that's necessary.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I still don't think this is going to save them any money. And it's kind of the NFL argument because in the NFL, they're like, okay, do you keep your GM and fire your coach, or do you fire your GM and keep your coach, or do you get rid of them both and then bring in people who might have synergy at the same time? I think this is Florida State saying we don't have a lot of cash right now and we don't want to be in this market where LSU, Florida, and Penn State are all looking for coaches. Yeah, I think there's a difference between saving money and kicking the can down the road to when you're going to have to pay it.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And I also think that there is a difference between sunken cost and dead money and money spent. So I think by keeping Norbel, if something happens in the offseason with a new structure or new players or whatever, where they have a bounce back year, and they win 10 games, which, you know, he's had a bad two years, but we can't say that's impossible. He's already gone undefeated in the regular season. He has, but, but I mean, what's the anomaly, the 13 and 0 season or the other seasons? No, no, I personally don't think that he has done enough to keep his job. Like, I'm not here trying to say that they did the right thing. What I'm here to say is that if there is a bounce back, which you cannot say as impossible because it's literally already happened.
Starting point is 00:13:49 No, it's not impossible. And the thing is, if they do bounce back, you're right. It's no longer, we'll save money. Like, that's it. Like, you're paying into something that you won't have to. It's like, you know, so I understand that process. And also, if they were to fire him, it's a $54 million buyout, but the actual bill when you think about like coaching buyouts and all those things for assistance too is in the upwards of
Starting point is 00:14:11 75 so by the way they're probably going to have to do some of that now anyway yeah but anyway like the whole total package of what it would cost to fire him is obscenely expensive and you're also entering in or would be entering in one of the most expensive carousels maybe the single most expensive carousel in the history of the sport because lane kiffin's contract is probably going to buoy other contracts up as well and other coaches are going to get raises and that aren't even in coaching changes. So, like, it's, it's not the right time if you, you know, and I know Florida State fans are probably upset about it, right?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Like, if you're Florida State, you want a new change. You don't want to feel like, okay, well, we know the answer to something. We want to keep getting the same result. Like, I get it. But from a financial standpoint, if they have a bounce back year, Florida State is much healthier on a balance sheet standpoint than they would be if they were to pay that $75 billion now. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Now, we'll find out if it works. I think the Florida State fans are pretty I don't even know if they're mad anymore I think the thing I worry about is you risk apathy here and apathy is probably what you're going to get at least for an off season is I want to say the blue blood
Starting point is 00:15:20 I don't think they qualified on the one I did okay but they're like it was very close if they're not blue blood they're blue blood adjacent yeah wins the last one of blue blood a fan base or a team that has that type of tradition and fan buyin reached apathy i mean Nebraska i think did at some point
Starting point is 00:15:42 i know but Nebraska hasn't had a winning season in 20 years or like a competitive national championship type season in 20 years yeah 25 years 30 years this is coming two years after a year where they won the league like people might be optimistic right now but like trust me when they have their opener next year that's place is going to be filled like it's florida state So, they're openers at Alabama and oh, oh boy. Yeah, we should have a segment on schedules for next year because somebody said this one of for you. Florida State's ACC draw is harder next year than it was this year. And yeah, what Ari's talking about is USC because, you know, we've been saying acceptable progress.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Lincoln Riley's doing okay. USC schedules much harder next year. And so that is something you have to keep in mind. They have Penn State, Ohio State, Oregon, Washington, Notre Dame next year, and Indiana. Half their games are against teams that could conceivably win the national title next year. Yep. So it's going to be a, it's going to be very interesting. All right. One more bit of coaching carousel news. Cal has fired Justin Wilcox that came after a loss to Stanford.
Starting point is 00:17:03 R. Pete Nacos has a story up about potential. candidates to replace Justin Wilcox. The one name I would focus in on if I were everybody is Tosh Lopoy, the defensive coordinator at Oregon, who is a Cal grad, former Cal assistant. I think it is very likely that Tosh Lepoy will be the nice head coach at Cal. Yeah. And he's been around and he's been in a lot of high leverage recruiting moments. I don't know if the rebuild that Cal looks the same thing as a rebuild would look at,
Starting point is 00:17:31 I don't know, let's say Florida, but you know, you want somebody who knows what it looks like. And I think that would be a nice fit. So, you know, I don't know how much Cal moves the needle, but, you know, they weren't nearly as good as they were supposed to be this year. And at times, the beginning of the year, it looked like they were going to be sensational and just didn't materialize. Well, the question is, do they keep Jaron Kiave, Saga, Politelli, their quarterback? And remember, I want to point out, if Tosh Lepoy is the higher,
Starting point is 00:17:57 where was JKS committed? Where did he actually sign Oregon? And, yeah, he went to Oregon, and then left. left to go to Cal because there was immediate playing time available there and Dante Moore was at Oregon. If Tosh LaPoy gets hired, I'd say that probably will
Starting point is 00:18:15 help them keep JKS. Yeah. Yeah, because if they don't, you could also make the case that keeping your quarterback when firing a coach is a harder thing to do. But my understanding... Half the SEC and the Big Ten are going to reach out to JKS. I can tell you that right now.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I would say that gambling odds of them retaining him regardless of who they hire are fairly bad. There will be intense competition. Is he like the next year's Indiana quarterback? Like I don't know. But, well, Indiana stole their last one from Cal. I know. It worked out quite well.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It did work out quite well. Yeah, we'll see what happens. But there will be a lot of teams in the JKS sweepstakes. Though I will say if Cal hires Tosh LaPoy, Cal is going to be one of those teams. They're going to have a chance to keep him. all right ari it's time to pick some games but first do you want to go to some of these games some of these games this week are absolutely incredible we'll be at ohio state michigan in ann arbor in the big house if you'd like to join us download the game time app redeem the
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Starting point is 00:20:05 Use the code Staples, $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Game time, swipe, tap, ticket, go. All right, Ari. It is now time for us to go to our picks. Last week, I was 5 and 4. You were 3 and 6. My record this year is 65, 52, and 3 against the spread.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Your record against the spread is 45, 73, and 2. Good time to sneeze for me. Okay. All right. We'll let you handle that sneeze. But this week will be a very challenging week to pick because, again, nine games that we're picking, the home team is the underdog in everyone. You are going to have to pick some underdogs to cover probably in at least half these games. And it's just a matter of which ones you get in right. Because weird things happen. Let's see. How many of these are. like blood feud rivalry games.
Starting point is 00:21:05 The Egg Bowl is, clean old-fashioned hate is, Texas A&M, Texas is, Territorial Cup is, Ohio State, Michigan is, Oregon, Washington is, and Alabama, Auburn is. So seven of the ones we're picking are blood feud rivalries. Iowa and Nebraska is a good rivalry, and Miami Pittsburgh has conference title implications. Yeah. I don't even know where we're going to start. Are we going to go into Juiciest first or what?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Like, what are you thinking? We're going chronological. It's like that that actually gets us, gets us into the juicy, like, it's a good juice level all the way through. It stays moist. Let's put it that way. So let us start on Friday in Starkville, Mississippi. Ole Miss is at Mississippi State. We know Lane Kiffin will be coaching this game because athletic director Keith Carter told us he'd be coaching this game.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Mississippi State is a seven and a half point home underdog. and that's the best thing about all these games too and he's like that most of them are like single digit spreads yes only two double digit spreads of this out of the nine so here's the question does all of this lane kiff and stuff affect all miss because the the argument going back two years is that when he was flirting with auburn it did affect the result of the 2002 egg bowl how much do you think the team is distracted that's we're not picking the game we're picking that right yes i think that's true and and the other question is how bad do they have to win it i think they're in the playoff either way thanks to the winning against oklahoma but
Starting point is 00:22:51 if they want to make absolutely sure they just win this game and they're definitely in the playoff yeah um i don't know man i'm going to let you go first i don't know I think two years ago, things were a little bit different. I think Ole Miss, from a talent standpoint, is considerably better here. I get the Mississippi State will be motivated. I know Jeff Levy has had them playing tough against teams that had higher talent levels pretty much all year. But I still think Ole Miss gets this done. I think the atmosphere that they've created, one, Lane Kippen,
Starting point is 00:23:33 is pretty much a circus year round. So I don't think this is really changing much for those guys. Yeah. And I think Ole Miss is going to cover here. And the distraction bowl is the Florida Bowl game, right? I mean, they beat the crap out. Yes, which they did struggle in. I meant like Florida beat them crap out of them at times, like physically, is what I meant.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I'm taking Mississippi State here. Isn't the Egg Bowl? Carter to win. uh to cover i'm not gonna okay i'm not a psychopath um the egg bowl's weird though always isn't it like it's not like a it is even if this wasn't happening it'd be a weird game i i mean this this is a game that has turned on penalties for someone pretending to pee on the goalpost like a dog yeah let that sink in i'm gonna say it one more time this is a game that has turned on people who are penalized for pretending to pee on the goalposts
Starting point is 00:24:33 like a dog. I just don't think he should have been penalized for that, Elijah Moore. Come on. Like, that's not like it. Well, it was an homage because D.K. did it first.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah. I don't think you should have been penalized. That's messed up. And a great celebration, dude. Like, why is that any different than any dance? I don't understand why.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Like, we don't have to relitigate it, but I just. Celebration. Probably because you're pretending you urinate like a dog. I, listen, I love this robbery so much.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Mississippi State is an okay team. Like, they're not going to play a team that's a disaster. And I think that's a nice, a nice step in the right direction for Levy in the boys. I don't know how much this is going to impact them. The game is on the road. It's not on Saturday. Clangha, clangha, clangha, clangha, clangha, clangue, clang, clang, clang, clang.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I'm sure you've covered a Mississippi State game before, right? I have. Is it much louder because of those? Like, I can't, I've never been. Yes, it is. Cowbells are insanely loud. And people get, like, mad that it's, like, almost not fair. Like, it's artificial crowd noise, right?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Well, it is artificial crowd noise, but there are rules. They must ring responsibly during SEC games. They are not allowed to ring while the opposing offense is calling signals. Okay. Got it. Yeah, I'm going to just go for, I'm going to, we're starting off a pretty insane weekend. I'm going to go for grab ass right out of the gate. I'm going to take Mississippi State here.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I know that Ole Miss is a better team. I think Ole Miss is a team that can make a nice run in the CFP, but I'm going to go for chaos here with what's going on off the field. So what you're saying is at some point, it is likely that someone will attempt to recreate peeing on the goalposts like a dog. Hey, tinfoil hat Monday. Yes. If you believe that Ole Miss's separation from Lane Kiffin is imminent and you believe that he is not going to be coaching this team during the playoff run, could you make the case that losing this game would be better for Ole Miss because it makes the cut between the two easier and might galvanize the new coach to say he wasn't fully bought in, I'm here for you, let's go ride.
Starting point is 00:26:59 No. No. This is where Herm Edwards comes in and says, you play to win the games. I'm not saying that they're not going to try to win or that they don't want to win. It's like hold my hands up still. I'm not saying that they don't want to win.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I'm not saying it's not a rivalry. What I'm saying is could it be like the Ohio State Michigan thing last year where like something happened that was terrible and then that thing helped navigating the future. Would ignite them in the playoff? The problem is, can I put my hands down? You can. The problem is.
Starting point is 00:27:30 you you get into danger if there's some bid thieves if you lose so you got to just win okay i think i think oldness is in if they lose but you're just sure they're in if they win it's easier to tell your coach to kick rocks if you lose a game you're not supposed to lose because you're distracted we didn't want you anyway is all i'm saying if you win the game if they go out and beat the crap out of them which they can and then lane was told to go kick rocks that optically is a lot harder thing to understand than it would be of like, hey, this isn't working right now. What if he
Starting point is 00:28:05 What if he stands up after the game and he's like, I ain't leaving? I ain't leaving. I mean, I think you could file that undergrabass too with how much of a circus this has become. And I would actually want to know and I don't realize, I don't remember if we talked about this, but I do think we should take 30 seconds because I want to know your opinion on this. Like, who do you think is to blame, the calendar or Lane Kiffin for this?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Wayne Kiffin. Okay, I agree. Nick Sabin wants to fix the calendar. Here's the thing. The main problem with the calendar is the semester system in college in America, which is based on when Christmas is. So unless you're planning to move Christmas, Nick Saban, I don't think you're going to fix anything.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I mean, maybe I'm not the person to be the vessel of this message, considering my Judaism. But I would be okay moving Christmas if it meant fixing the college football calendar. I'm not even going to give out the email address. Just, I'm saying, like, how would you do it? Where would you even move Christmas, too? You'd have to put everybody on the quarter.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Because you just can't have the natural semester break right there. You need the natural semester break to be after the college football playoff. You need it to be sometime in the spring when the NFL does all its coaching moves and personnel moves. That's because they keep saying, well, it needs to be like the NFL. The NFL makes sense. Right, because the NFL doesn't have semesters. Yeah. Or you could start the semester a month early.
Starting point is 00:29:36 You don't have to move Christmas, move college. Agreed. But college is there because of Christmas. So you don't have to move Christmas. You could move college. But I'm just saying most people want that break right then. So unless you can figure out how to change that. that. It is a very natural break in life. Yeah. If they could just say, we're moving this
Starting point is 00:30:03 to February 1st. The new semester starts February 1st in every school in America, then by all means, do it. If they started the semester at the beginning of July and then just made a longer break. What if they move the start of every semester, the start of the spring semester at every campus in America to the first Wednesday in February? yeah you know what the first wednesday in february like it hasn't been that long right you still remember what that is national signing day there you go yeah i'm aware yeah yeah yeah the nick sabin uh diatribe about the calendar uh who wrote that his agent Nick Saban probably
Starting point is 00:30:50 I mean Jimmy Sexton is Nick Saban's agent and Lane Kiffin is Jimmy Sexton's client as well but I'm not going to throw everything on Jimmy Not everything college football is Jimmy's fault Jimmy's just trying to make money for his clients Yeah and he's good at People who spend the money need to spend it more smartly And Jimmy if you ever want anybody
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Starting point is 00:31:28 I watched entourage. I know how that stuff works. And my name's-R-R-I-D? Well, at least Lloyd got paid. I want to be Lloyd and then I want to be R.E. Gold. Yeah. That show saved my life, by the way. I don't know if you know that.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Everybody called me Erie. Then Entourage came out and nobody ever got my name wrong again. Lloyd! Good job, Jeremy Piven. I still think your best role was in PCU. Yeah, I'm with you. Oh, wait. Or his cameo that he made in Rush Hour.
Starting point is 00:31:57 That was a pretty good one, too. Or when he played the Evil Dean in old school, which was a nod to his role in PCU. Very good role. Very underrated role. Ari, let us move to Lincoln, Nebraska. Iowa at Nebraska. and, boy, everything changed.
Starting point is 00:32:18 We had that question from our friend, our friend Tyler last week. What if T.J. Lateef's just awesome. What happens then at Nebraska? Okay, can we can set that to the side now? Like, Nebraska went to Penn State and got clowned. And now they're in a situation where it kind of feels like the end of last year, where how much you've improved this season may hinge on what the result is. result of this game is.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah. That was a rough look, Andy. That was a rough look. Now, I know Ralph Russo, our friend who listens to the show, works at the athletic, tweeted, teams that are better than their record in like Penn State was the first one that he, and it's like, yeah, Penn State is better than the record. But, you would have that much better than Nebraska, like 3710?
Starting point is 00:33:13 Nebraska didn't even put a fight. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. That optically was a bad look. And it makes you wonder if like Nebraska's limping into the off season. And Iowa was a 17 point favorite over Michigan State over the weekend and they did not cover the spread, come even close. I mean, they almost, they had to come back to win the game. They almost lost the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Kind of a tricky, tricky spread here. I'll go first and she went first last time. I think that Nebraska is limping into the off season. I like Iowa's defense against the quarterback that may not be the person who takes Dylan Raola's job away. And I just think, like, vibes-wise, Iowa's in a better place. Yeah, so Nebraska is a five-and-a-half point underdog at home. More important, I feel like we're back to this bit. A total on this game is 39 and a half.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Under. I'll take the under. Yeah. It's probably going to be a slot. topy big 10 West type game. Now, if you think that's the case, then maybe taking the points as an attractive thing, but I think like Iowa is going to win like 20 to 10 or something.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Just checking the weather for. Yeah, go ahead. We need a weather. We need a weather. High 32, low 27. Oh, it's cold in the Midwest and December? Who would have thought? 11 a.m. local kickoff.
Starting point is 00:34:40 It's still November. 11 a.m. local kickoff on Friday. Yeah. Okay. What to do with this? I think something that plays out similar to the Michigan State Iowa game, which was a competitive, which is actually basically the Nebraska Iowa game from last year. Competitive, Iowa comes back, kicks a field goal to win. Like, I can see that. I can definitely see that. So I can see Iowa, but then you got to pick Nebraska to cover. yeah say it out loud yeah because the under feels very safe but well i mean we need to have like a legitimate conversation at some point into the future about like whether this was a successful season for Nebraska but like i think they absolutely have to try to win this one just to feel some sort of positivity heading into the off season and i feel like after last week like i saw like i follow a lot of Nebraska people online now because of our summer together um and being the number
Starting point is 00:35:44 one hated, number one hated person in Nebraska. Well, let me, let me ask you this, because obviously this game will factor into this. If I told you at the beginning of the season, Nebraska finished the season eight and four, how would you have felt about that? Fine. Okay. I agree. If I told you the beginning of season, Nebraska finished seven and five, how would you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:36:06 Oh, no. Mm-hmm. Okay. And now, part of this is the way they lost to Penn State. part of this is that they just gave Matt Ruhl more money to keep him from going to Penn State and he just showed in State College that Penn State probably wasn't going to hire him anyway.
Starting point is 00:36:25 So they just gave him that money for nothing. So that's going to be the question. But if you're 8 and 4 and you're coming off winning against Iowa and then you got a bowl game and perhaps you get some more optimism out of the bowl game, I still think you're okay. I think Nebraska's going to put up a fight here. I think we saw it after they put up no fight against Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:36:52 They did bounce back to competitiveness. They've had two games where they've just been absolutely shellacked. You just don't understand. And Northwestern and Iowa, that's the team they beat after that Minnesota game. Northwestern and Iowa are not that different. keep talking yourself into it dude you're the you're the you're the cover let's go here you're the picker here you're the one who's get a cover um yeah we'd never play this game in a million years with real money by the way
Starting point is 00:37:27 like with real american currency maybe bitcoin with the way it's falling right now i don't know but like it uh it'll be a good game it'll be a fun game and i think it's a pure game it's it's the corn game i love it and i can't wait to watch it I think that there is a larger conversation about extensions and Matt Rule. And, you know, I just think that, like, Nebraska fans crave college football playoff contention. They crave getting back to glory. And I don't know if regardless of what happens in this game, if you saw anything this year that makes you think they're that much closer to it than they were a year ago, which is sad. Because for a minute, it kind of felt like they were headed in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:38:10 We're very down because of the way. they lost Saturday. I'm telling you if they beat Iowa on Friday that it doesn't all go away, but some of it goes away. Yeah. Meanwhile,
Starting point is 00:38:24 if Iowa wins this thing, it was a really good year for them. Yeah, it was. Not what they wanted because they did come up short against Indiana, Oregon, and USC, and were right in those games.
Starting point is 00:38:38 But given their talent level, given some of the injuries they've had to deal with, I actually think this would be a great season for them if they win this game. And I just think, like, if they would have, because their offense isn't great, let's be honest. Like, I know, like, no, Grinowski, Grinowski's ability to run gives them a different dimension than some of their previous quarterbacks did. I do try to think really make it dynamic. If Kirk Farron's would have gone and out gotten somebody like Ronowski three years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Like, well, and fired Ryan. Yeah, and like, married this offense with some of the defenses that they've had there. recent past, this would have probably been a playoff team. So, like, I mean, I think that, like, if you're an Iowa fan who has grown impatient with Kirk Farrants, I think that, like, he earns some welfare in terms of, like, hey, we can get our defense
Starting point is 00:39:23 back to where it was a few years ago. And now I know offensively what we can do to at least be functional. And I think that's the product of what we got out of them this year. And I think that's a step in the right connection. So Ari's taking Iowa to cover. I am taking Nebraska to cover. Before we head to the ATL,
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Starting point is 00:41:23 brawl the wild montana montana state maybe yeah but clean old fashion hates a a close second georgia is a 13 point favorite this is not a road game for georgia i think we probably would assume that about at least half the crowd's going to be Georgia fans, maybe even a little more. This was a classic last year, eight overtime game, Haynes King, battling. Carson Beck was still Georgia's quarterback at the time.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I just, I have a hard time watching Georgia Tech these past few weeks and thinking that we're going to get something similar to that. Do people who go to Georgia Tech route for Georgia? No, not really. Ever? Like, you know, like sometimes you'll have like, oh, I went to the Mac school.
Starting point is 00:42:08 in Ohio but I'm an Ohio State fan like is there any of that in this? It's not really the same thing although if you are going to Georgia Tech you might be going to get an engineering degree and you may have grown up a Georgia fan so there's probably a few of those but I think generally they are Georgia Tech fans do you think Georgia Tech has anything left in the tank to push them like
Starting point is 00:42:28 they did last year after what we saw on Saturday I mean the only the only reason you can give is it's a rivalry game that's it because the team we saw against Pittsburgh, the team we saw against Boston College, the team we saw against NC State is going to get just creamed by this Georgia team. Unless the Georgia team just doesn't show up.
Starting point is 00:42:49 And Georgia is still very much familiar with what happened last year. Like, it's not like they're going to get stung. Oh, yeah. You get it. It hasn't changed. You get that. Yeah. So, yeah, I thought that there was a, you know, there was a streak in the middle of the year, Andy,
Starting point is 00:43:06 where I thought that Georgia was susceptible. the Bulls are losing games and I thought, you know, hey, they need to be put on notice here. Their resurgence or their surge, I should say, in conjunction with the way that Georgia Tech has been playing in the last month makes it really hard to pick against the Bulldogs in this game. I'm going to lay the points and I'm going to go Georgia here. Yeah, Georgia is a 13 point favorite. That's a big, big number. This is the biggest number of any of the games we're dealing with today.
Starting point is 00:43:32 But the way they played against Texas, that looks like a team that can. win the national title. Not just a team that can be competitive against Ohio State like that looked like a team that can win the national title. And if Georgia is moving, you know, clicking into a higher gear as it approaches the college football playoff, then I think that's a big deal. Now, none of the other stuff really matters to Georgia. They may or may not wake up Sunday morning and find out they're in the SEC championship game. It depends on what happens with Texas, Texas A&M on Friday night. It happens to have any impact on either team.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Not really. No, because Georgia's in the playoff if they lose. And Georgia Tech just has to wait and see what happens with the rest of the ACC to find out if it's in the ACC championship game, but it probably isn't because it loses most of the tiebreakers. Yeah, and their only path to the playoff is winning the ACC, so this has no bearing on that. So, like, even if they win this game, I don't know that's going to matter.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Yeah. I mean, it might help. I don't know. It's just crowded. I mean, they'd be 10 and 2 with winning against Georgia. It'd be the same argument as not the same argument because their schedule is different than like the Miami, Notre Dame is a little closer comparison in schedule strength. Georgia Georgia Tech schedule strength comparison is not as close.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Right, because they didn't play in the, well, there's no SEC team on in that discussion. But yeah, no, I guess they're not dead. They certainly would have had a great case regardless of what happened. happened. I mean, they would have been in the ACC if they didn't lose on Saturday. And by the way, I spent the entire game after they got down 28 nothing convinced they were going to win. I don't know why. I thought they were going to win the game. Because at one point, they were down 35, 28. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And you thought they were going to win when they were down 28. Nothing. Like I was like, I have a ticket. I can show you it's a losing ticket of them plus 1,100. Like, I thought they were going to come back and win. And I was close. But, yeah, they're just not. trending in the right direction. I think George is trending in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And the thing that you can unequivocally say about Kirby Smart and the onside kick that he kicked against Texas is the perfect, you know, personification of that is that he wants to murder you. He doesn't want to beat you. He wants to humiliate you. He wants to put his hands around your throat and suffocate you until your life leaves your body while he smirks. And I think they're kind of in that mode right now. No? I would agree with that. I would agree that. And that's a, I'll go a shark tank for you. And for that reason, I'm out. I take Georgia cover the spread.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah, so we're on the same side of this one. But you know what? If it goes 12 overtimes, that'd be great too. Andy, last year's game and made me nervously pee like nine times. Like, you know, I went. We were at Ari's house because we were covering Texas and Texas A and the next day in college station.
Starting point is 00:46:27 So we're at Ari's house in Dallas watching this game. And I am, Ari's, Ari learns what I'm like if I'm at home watching a competitive game. I just pace. I can't sit down. I just pace back and forth by the TV. And then Ari just kept running back and forth to the bathroom. It was pathetic.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah, I just, it's a diuretic, really, for me. And I had no, not a single shekel on that game. It was just so exciting. Like, I hope we get that again. And if it's not this game, I'm sure we'll get it in another few on this. Join us at the MGM Grand because we'll be there watching all these Black Friday games,
Starting point is 00:47:04 including this one where I, I'm taking Georgia to cover, and Ari is taking Georgia to cover. And including this next one, Austin, Texas, Texas A&M at Texas. We didn't play guess the spread on this one. I think if we had, we'd have both been wrong. A&M is a two and a half point favorite in Austin. I thought it'd be a little higher than that, Ari. I have to pee.
Starting point is 00:47:35 it's already making you nervous i love this i watched sunday red zone yesterday with two of my good buddies in texas two of my best friends here one's an a and m fan and one's a texas fan and i sat and watched them go back and forth buddy this is the this is like walter white pure college football right here like this is like you think college football is a drug they have come up with a biological formula to synthesize it down to its purest form in what came out it's not blue it's maroon and orange like that like it is okay so breakdown football wise i think that a and m's a better football team breakdown um emotional wise if a and m loses this game that is the most a and m thing that you could even imagine and i have spent all year talking about how bad it
Starting point is 00:48:35 Maggie syndrome is dead and that Mike Elko sifts through the bullshit. He gets his team ready. They're not going to lose dumbass games the way that they used to. And like by and large, they've done it. If you go to Austin as the better team as a two and a half point favorite, lose to Texas on the road, does that like you want to talk like, you spent all this time last year talking about how losing to Michigan for Ohio state put a a asterisk or a bitter taste in their mouth of a national title run.
Starting point is 00:49:03 can you celebrate this season the way that you would just go take it you have to go to austin and take it you need to kill their playoff discussion as little as you may think it is right now kill it take the SEC championship game invite away the way that they took it away from you grab it and just finish your undefeated season in the right way because the last thing that a and m needs is a loss on the road to texas to finish the special year heading into the playoff And the last thing they need, you know, God forbid for them is for Texas to win this game and use that as their platform to get into the playoff because then this season is even yours anymore. It's theirs. And like that's not the way it's supposed to go. I think it's fine. Look, it's it's fine if they lose and I'm still getting into the playoff. Not. Will it burn? Yeah. Well, Texas get in if it wins, probably not. But spot a brand new sports car. And you've wanted this your whole life. And you finally you finally got enough money
Starting point is 00:50:05 or you finally got to a position where you're comfortable buying it and you scratch the shit out of it. It still drives. It's still fast. But that scratch is going to leave you laying in your bed wondering what the hell happened here
Starting point is 00:50:18 until you fix it. Like that's all that. Or until you go through the playoff win the national title. But I agree with you. I agree with you. It would be better for A&M if they just went ahead and won this thing.
Starting point is 00:50:32 For Texas, meanwhile, they've had some some angst this season and look it's a failure if they don't make the playoff this was the team that was supposed to compete for the national title they have to give themselves
Starting point is 00:50:48 a chance going to selection Sunday and the only way to do that is win this game yeah this is going to be a compelling case I don't know if it'll be good enough to get in they will have a compelling case, if they beat them with a win over Oklahoma, that would be two
Starting point is 00:51:07 playoff wins. And their third loss being the closest game anybody played to the, you know, I don't know how Ohio State Michigan's going to go. We'll pick that later. But to the, to date, the closest loss on the road to Ohio State is a compelling resume. Now, I don't know if getting blown out by Georgia is something you can't come back from. We debated that when we were there. I don't know. The odds of them getting in are quite low. They are not eliminated by any stretch of the imagination, I didn't say they were, but I said they're probably not going to get in.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah. No, I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to those who thought they, who think they are eliminated. They're not. Talking to the world. All right. What do we think's going to happen? I've been writing the agons all year, man.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I'm going to, I don't want to give in to that like, I've been telling you to bury your BAS all year, game by game by game. And like, I'm with you. like it is probably ringing off the charts at the moment. A&M is a better team. They are laying less than a field goal. I'm going to go with the better team laying again. And I'm going to go with Elko. You win.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You're quitting the longhorns? I'm not quitting the longhorns. I think you're quitting the longhorns. I just think A&M is better. Quitting the longhorns. You've ditched one of your side teams for the other one of your side teams. There's no. I've got two helmets in my office, just so you guys know.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Oh, boy. Here it comes. Just wait for it. The dramatic pause. Nine and three wildcats. Loving. Yep. Go get them.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Eggs. Go get them. That's not something they say. Why did you invent this go get a mags thing? It's kind of what they say like in their sheer practice for their yellow. yell practice. Yeah, they go, whoop. Hey, eggs, I got a story to tell you.
Starting point is 00:53:07 It's kind of like, that's my. So you, so you think O'Rock the Good Ag is going to walk into Austin, punch those hippies in the face. That's a good bull right there, what you're just saying. And come back with a trip to the SEC championship game. I do. I don't know if I believe it, but I am too pot committed at this point to, to change court.
Starting point is 00:53:28 How much of a freaking hippocamp? crit what I'd be if I pick Texas today. Come on. I don't know because you, again, you've been very, well, there was a time you said Texas stunk. But then you were right back on and picking him against Georgia. Yeah. You picked Texas to win straight up against Georgia. I'm in a toxic relationship with Texas that have been for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And that we'll come back from it. Like, even if I turn my back on them, like, they'll know. I'll be there because you want to know why, Arch Manning is Kyle Pitts. He's just never going to give up on him. Arch Manning is going to be a Heisman favorite this offseason no matter what happens. Am I wrong? He did just enough this year against a bad offensive line to show you a win. Did you just make a declarative statement about Arch Manning and the Heisman for 2026?
Starting point is 00:54:20 Didn't you learn anything for 2025? I'm saying that he will be one of that that's not a, that isn't a hot take. He will be one of the statistical favorites to win it in July. Okay, that's probably not. that's not like it's not like what you said he can't not go to new york did he not do enough this year to own the off season again uh i don't know oh just i'm gonna let you keep walking into bear traps this is like i'm not even saying anything controversial like you're trying to pretend like it is texas fans are just dreaming of the day that he has a clean pocket that's all
Starting point is 00:54:54 he makes some throws man i i can see the vision i think he's gonna still be good this is like this the episode of the simpson with sideshow bob and the rakes where no matter where he turns, there's another rake. Whipsch! That's you right now with Archmanning in Texas. Let's see what you have, then.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Oh, give me A&M to cover. They're better. Yeah. Now if they lose. I can see them, like, there's certainly a plausible scenario where they lose this game. I mean, you watch the first out of the South Carolina game.
Starting point is 00:55:30 If they play like that, Texas will not let them come back and win. So this is also the most important thing that they've played in two and a half months. But I think I think this plays out a lot like last year's game played out, where the team that was supposed to win one, Texas came in, had an awesome defense. Texas A&M's offense was suspect. And Texas's offense tried to give the ball to A&M.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And Texas's defense just wouldn't let him do anything. So it was exactly what was supposed to happen. Horns off. Sa varsity's horns off. I got to say this one thing, though. It is absolutely psychotic that A&M fight song is around another team. Rent free. A lot of rent free going on there.
Starting point is 00:56:23 It's psychotic. And it's beautiful. Of course, we just talked about Georgia and Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech's fight song is about Georgia. How does theirs go? I don't know that. It says to hell with Georgia in the song. Okay. So it's not limited to Texas A&M.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Yeah, ours is just and I said ours because I'm an Aggie right now. O God. Ours is just reserved for animal abuse. You married an Aggie. You are not an Aggie. You have no Aggie ring. You did not dunk your Aggie ring. I married an Aggie ring and I procreated with one.
Starting point is 00:57:01 That's as close to becoming an Aggie as you is going to school there, right? I'm just going to leave that one right there. We both pick Texas A&M to cover two and a half points. We'll see what happens. Let's talk about your actual alma mater now, Ari. Arizona. Brent Brennan, comeback coach of the year. Noah Fafita.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Comeback player of the year? Arizona has been awesome this year, especially given preseason expectations. Meanwhile, they are playing an Arizona state team that is still statistically alive, still mathematically alive, to make the Big 12 championship game. And if you said that when Sam Levitt got hurt, I would have said you're insane. But Kenny Dillingham is winning games with Jeff Simpson quarterback. Arizona is a one and a half point favorite at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe. already's going to have the helmet on the entire time.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Hopefully he won't move his head too much because he's going to drop it if he does. They can't keep getting away with this, right? Arizona State. Like, I know Kenny Dillian. Like, are they going to keep? It might be able to get away with it one more time. They can't keep getting away with this.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Kenny Dillingham is coaching out of his mind. And he is rightfully a candidate for some pretty big jobs because he has earned the right to do so. Personnel-wise, which quarterback are we taken here? Which team is hotter? Which team is feeling good? Where are the vibes? One team has a potential Big 12 championship game path.
Starting point is 00:58:45 One doesn't. But I'm going with my wildcats on this one. I don't think they can keep getting away with it. What if Arizona's been getting away with it? Hey, listen, blood's thicker than water. What do you want me to do? Like, I'm a Arizona tumor. I am consumed by your own.
Starting point is 00:59:06 So I don't think Relique Brown is going to run for 255 yards and average 11.6 yards of carry the way he did against Colorado. That's pretty good, yeah. But I do think if Arizona State runs a ball, not like that because it's really hard to run the ball like that, but runs the ball reasonably well. they're going to win this game. So give me the sun devils,
Starting point is 00:59:31 especially because you're giving me a point in half. Yeah, Colorado is an absolute mess, and I know they scored like 500 points unanswered in the fourth quarter to blow them out, but like they were struggling for three quarters. They're not looking at your humming on all cylinders right now. And obviously when you run the ball the way they did, you're going to win it.
Starting point is 00:59:49 That's why. And who do you think wants to win this one more? I know they both want to win it a lot, but like Arizona is desperate to finish the season on a high note. And I think Arizona State is still in the mix. This is a Friday night game. They will not know what has happened with BYU and Texas Tech. Just for our podcast audience, can you break down their narrow path again to what needs to happen for Arizona State to make it?
Starting point is 01:00:16 They need to win. You need to lose to UCF or Texas Tech needs to lose to West Virginia. And they need to win. What was the first one? That's it. BYU needs to lose to UCF. or Texas Tech needs to lose to West Virginia. The BYU lost to UCF is more likely, though not very likely.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah, so we're not going to Dallas is what you're saying. Probably not, but they got to win because if they don't win, they have no chance. But Kenny Dillingham also sold his soul to the devil. See what I did there? I'm like on a pun. Are you saying he sold it to Sparky? He sold it to somebody. I don't know. He can't keep getting away with this.
Starting point is 01:00:58 He can't keep getting away with this. Maybe he will. Maybe they'll go to the Big 12 champion. I mean, he's literally on Sparky's payroll. Yeah. Arizona won four games in a row. Their loss to start the streak was a three-point loss. Houston, they played BYU close. I think they're a highly functional team, and I think that Arizona State has some personnel warts
Starting point is 01:01:17 that are going to be hard to overcome. I think that like all Homer jokes aside, Arizona's in a better spot right now. All right. Give me the sun devils to break your heart. Let us go where we are headed on Saturday. But first, I'm going to talk about our friends at Panini. The makers of the most collectible sports cards on the planet.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Go to Paniniamerica.net to collect your favorite college and NFL stars. If you're an Ohio State fan, we're about to talk about the Buckeyes. You've got these Ohio State blaster boxes with multiple packs. So it's six packs of four of Ohio State cards, which include different Ohio State athletes. Oh, boy. I'm liking this one a lot. Okay, so we've got James Hong, who's a hockey player.
Starting point is 01:02:07 We've got a legendary contenders, Troy Smith, Heism Trophy winner in 2006. We've got Tanner Creech who plays soccer. But look at this, Ari. School colors, N-I-L, Julian Sayan. Is that thing numbered? It is not. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:27 I'm going to open another pack, though. I mean, I do think that you need a into a sleeve, though. I got some, I know, I'm putting every Julian saying I get in a sleeve. Yeah. So let me, I got blonde of my fangs, though. So I'm going to open this other pack. No, isn't it hard to stop? Well, I mean, the thing is, there's some big, there's some big ones in these.
Starting point is 01:02:47 All right. So we got a Garrett Stover. Campus Legends, Eddie. George, legendary contenders Ted Ginn, Jr. And college ticket, Colin White, on their basketball team. So, yeah, that Julian Sayans, the best of that bunch. Are you got a bunch on your desk? What you got?
Starting point is 01:03:06 I've got like 15. I'm selling, I don't know, people are getting ahead of their Christmas shopping, but I've got like 500, like, packages of cards that are going out. What do I do with this? This is a Justin Fields, 2021, Donorous Optic Blue Ice. is one of Justin Fields biggest cards on the face of the earth I bought a ton of Justin Fields
Starting point is 01:03:28 because when I first got into the hobby like I covered him and I thought he was going to be really good in the pros is this is there any chance this thing ever becomes anything in your mind or is it just cooked it's done but all of your Jackson Smith and Jigba stuff yeah
Starting point is 01:03:46 he's about to shatter the single season receiving record and he's done it like it's not a it's not a oh they're now playing 17 regular season games thing like his per game's going to be better than calvin johnson probably he already broke the single season receiving record held by dk metcalf for the seahawks which by the way means all of steve large and single season records too yeah um i have some of i've got this big ass briefcase over here on the floor now's not the time to open it but i've got some jackson smith and jigba cards and that are probably
Starting point is 01:04:21 worth like mid four figures at this point because I bought some pretty big ones and I was like part of like my collection strategy is like collect people that I covered and like wrote recruiting profiles about so a lot of these are Ohio state guys that like I got to know when they were 16 years old that one turned out to work out pretty well so we'll see how how it goes but JSN I think might be one of the one of the best receivers if that a fact is the best receiver in the NFL or one of the three best he might be over Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase quite yet but he's doing that he's doing those. types of, of season. So go to pinidiaamerica.net to start your collection today. Let us talk about Ohio State receivers as we discuss the game that we were attending in Ann Arbor. Ohio State at Michigan, Michigan is a 10-point home dog. I will point out that last year, Michigan won this game as a 20 and a half point road underdog.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I mentioned we're going to talk about Ohio State receivers, Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate, Ohio State's two best receivers, possibly the two best receivers in America, did not play last week against Rutgers. Ryan Day said their day-to-day. Presumably, they were resting them against Rutgers so they can play against Michigan. This is going to be an incredible scene, Ari, because Ohio State is trying to break the streak. They've lost four in a row to Michigan. Michigan is trying to make the playoff and extend the streak. oh my god i can't believe we're going on i can't wait i can't wait uh i went to like 11 years in a row to this and uh this will be my first one back i believe right um after a five or four
Starting point is 01:06:02 year break i haven't been to any of the games that they've lost so maybe i'm the missing key for them i don't know ask me what my record doesn't help your buckeye homer reputation by that's true i don't even care about it anymore i'm a i'm a homer um They used to bother me, Andy. Now I'm just going to wear it. You know, actually for our podcast, if I came out as like a major Ohio State fan, that would actually be better for us because people like to see how people act when things don't go their way. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Yeah. I actually thought about that. It's like if you just like went full Florida homer and I went full Ohio State Homer, if that would be good for us. Yeah. So we could be like, we could be like Brandon Walker and Mississippi State lose. Yeah. And it's just be funny. And everybody's like, oh my God, Mississippi State loss in a heartbreaking fashion.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Let's rack up millions of views of us fake crime. on the phone. You know, like, I don't like, I don't know. I think Brandon was making it. I think that was real. I think that there were very, there were a few, I'm sure he was upset about it. I'm assuming that some of that like,
Starting point is 01:06:58 FaceTime with Dave Portnoy where he was making fun of him was clearly staged. But I asked me what my record is, just to lean into the Ohio State homerism a little bit, picking the Ohio State Michigan game since COVID. What is your record picking the Ohio State? Oh, and four. Hmm. Did you not?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Say you would, you would give your house to someone if I told Michigan won three in a row that I would give them my entire. I was talking to Scott Docterman on the athletics. I think it was Stars Matter. We were talking about recruiting. And it was 2020. And I think it was like during the COVID year. I don't remember what it was. But it was before Michigan had one one.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And I said, we were talking about Michigan and how they were recruiting. And, you know, if you go back in time to my takes about the Ohio State Michigan game. that you like to like that i get thrown in my face a lot now it's funny because that was before nil that was before the transfer portal and no team that wasn't recruiting at a certain level was winning championships right and somebody said on the show that michigan has is built to win four out of 10 or five out of 10 against ohio state and i said i will give you my entire net worth in my home if you want to bet that that won't happen and they have won four in a row since so as you know my declarations of things that
Starting point is 01:08:18 won't happen. One of my toxic traits and it happens in my friendships too is that I say things that aren't fact in a declarative way that makes it feel like it's fact. Like that was very wrong, but at the same time also coincided with information that I didn't have when making that
Starting point is 01:08:34 prediction. Right. Like, you know, the entire thing has changed. But at the same time, last year's all right. None of that explains last year. None of it. Last year like so yeah Ohio State's a much better team Ohio State has much better players they're laying 10 points on the road against the team that I think should have a hard time scoring they've got a freshman quarterback and Bryce Underwood who has shown flashes of
Starting point is 01:09:02 greatness but also still has shown that he is a ways to go they don't have Kenneth Grant and Mason Graham in the middle anymore those guys are gone their receivers although coming along aren't elite. Why am I, like, if you pick Michigan, you are picking Ohio State as a Michigan problem, and they do. Are you, are you worried that Ohio State hasn't really seen anyone of Michigan's talent level in a while? Yes. I am worried, if I'm an Ohio State person, I'm worried about that. I'm worried about making the game too big and it overcoming you emotionally.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I'm worried about how are they going to call this game? I'm worried about Michigan's because this game before at times was closer than it should have been even before the flip because of the intense rivalry. I'm worried that it's on the road.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I'm worried that it doesn't matter if they lose. I mean, there's a lot of things that would worry me if I were an Ohio State fan but like if we're picking football teams if this was if this was Florida versus USC and the rosters were the same, who would you pick?
Starting point is 01:10:16 I mean, like, that's the thing that you struggle with. Do you pick the team or do you pick the circumstance? You've always told me pick the spot, don't pick the team. I'm very excited to see what you're going to pick here. I'm going to lay the points because I'm just going to pick the better team. And listen, just so everybody knows, how many times have the Buffalo Bills lost to the Chiefs in the playoffs or in a high leverage game the last, like, it's been like four or five times, right?
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah. I've bet on the bills in every one of those games and lost all of them, including last year's game where Dalton Kincaid dropped that pass that would have given them the cover. And I'm talking like pretty hefty wagers. If the bills play the chiefs in a high leverage game or bills play the chiefs in it,
Starting point is 01:10:55 I'm betting the bills because I'm not going to not win when I'm right eventually. So I'm going to lay the point here because I think they're the better team. I think Ohio State is up and away the best team in college football this year. And I think that winning 34 to 24 to 24 is a cover or 34 to 21.
Starting point is 01:11:11 It doesn't have to be a blowout. It can be a close competitive game. But are they not 10 points better? And I actually believe that Ryan Day has broken the hex. Okay, this is where I am with you. I do not think Ryan Day is going to try to win this game in a certain fashion. I think that was the problem last year. They tried to win it the way Michigan would have won it.
Starting point is 01:11:35 But who cares? You have better players. Use your better players. Now, a couple of your better players are hurt. are you going to get the production out of Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate that you would expect? I think probably so. I think that's probably why they held them out last week. So this is hard because I do think with a 10-point spread, I'd be pretty comfortable taking Michigan. But I'm going to say the same thing I said last year and was wrong.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I think Ohio State just unloads all of it. I mean, eventually it's going to turn back. The thing is, the question is, does it turn back in a close, hard-fought win? Or does it turn back? Like, remember that game, I think it was 2018, is the one where Michigan was favored. And Ohio State just annihilated them.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Urban Myers' last version of it? Yeah. Where Harbaugh did the, it was this short? yeah the years get mixed up in my head no 2016 was the the how much yeah that was the carter samuel game where he scored at the end the j t barrett but his butt got no i'm talking about 2018 when michigan was favored in ohio state won by like 40 yeah so yeah um so what are you leaning like what do you think it 62 39 by the way was a final at 2018 game yeah I can see that happening.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I can see it rolling downhill and Michigan not being built to come back. Yeah. Michigan's got to keep it close and then's got to force some mistakes, which we've seen. We've seen mistakes. We saw it last year. That's how Michigan stayed in the game. That's how Michigan won.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Here's where Michigan's going to win if they do. Ohio State is out of sync in their passing attack. It's cold. Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate are not fully healthy. They're not fully themselves. And Michigan turns this into a game where Ohio State needs to wind on the ground and they won't be able to do that. Like, I don't think, because like Ohio State's weakness against everybody has been pounding the ball.
Starting point is 01:14:00 But I don't know that Michigan is going to be able to pound the ball against Ohio State. That's the thing that, and it was true last year too. Like my thing about this game is how is. Michigan going to score enough? But if that's your analysis, they scored enough last year and they didn't even have functional offense. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I know. Like, really, this is a personnel versus vibes spot. I always pick, right, I tend to pick in this game personnel because I had a front row seat to what personnel and the differences in this game do. They'd never lost when I was on the beat because there was such a drastic gap
Starting point is 01:14:39 between what one team had and what one did. Now, Michigan, during this streak at times, has closed that gap. They won the national title one of the years. Last year's game was really the only pants shitting one. So, like, do you think that's going to be a trend? I don't because I think they winning the national championship took the pressure off of Ryan Day where he could. Right, I think it broke him of the habit of thinking he has to be.
Starting point is 01:15:09 beat Michigan in a particular way. Beat Michigan the way you beat Michigan. Beat Michigan the way you play. You didn't take the terms of the game. He possesses equity now that he didn't possess a year ago. Yep. So that's why I'm picking Ohio State to cover here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Yeah. We both picked them to cover last year. We were both wrong. Yeah. And if they don't win this one, I don't even know what to say. Then it's something supernatural. Or you have a coach who I think you could make the case that if they don't win this year,
Starting point is 01:15:50 then Ryan Day has, he already has a Michigan problem. I don't know how, what's the next statement past that? A Michigan syndrome. Now the question. The actual question can become because like we're not going to get back into should he be fired again because that was last year. but can Ohio State's head coach exist when everything in the program works so well
Starting point is 01:16:13 so well that you can win a national championship but you give up your rival? Can that happen? I think what we're learning is John Cooper probably would have still had a job if there was a 12-team playoff when John Cooper coached. I think that's fair. I mean, if you go back and look at the 90s teams
Starting point is 01:16:32 that lost the Michigan, the 90s, the talent they had in the 90s, they were like they were loaded before this was even a thing so like it's and they never wanted a championship under him so yeah but can you in 2025 can ohio state fans be happy love their coach and love their program if they can't beat michigan would be the would be the talk um but i'll give him one more one more shot at this if they lose five in a row that would just be otherworldly it it would be but we're both picking ohio state to cover we'll be there we'll see what happens. Let us go now to Pittsburgh. Miami and Pitt, both still alive
Starting point is 01:17:13 for the ACC championship. Must win to stay alive. Still need help from other situations. Ari's putting his hood up because he knows I'm about to check the weather. Miami is a six and a half point favorite on the road. I feel like this is that doll. It's not that Dolphins Chiefs game in the playoffs for a few years ago where the wind chill was like negative 27. This is not that. But looking at the forecast, mostly cloudy, high 31, low 24, noon kickoff. Ari, Miami has the superior athletes. But Pittsburgh is playing very well since switching to Mason Heinzsche as the starting quarterback, six and one since making the switch. The losses to Notre Dame, which Pat Narduzzi told us he didn't care about.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I already know what's going to happen. Okay. I can just see it. I've been seeing it for a month. Miami's going to lose, and then everybody is going to give me shit for my position on Miami, even though that's not the point.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Yes, agreed. I know that's going to happen. I mean, they're going to do it to me, too, because we've both had the same argument about the head-to-head with Notre Dame. What the Notre Dame fans don't understand is we would have it if it was two other teams too we don't care but then they're also what the teams are how could you have ever thought
Starting point is 01:18:40 that Miami should be ranked ahead of Notre Dame they can't even be Pitt and that's not the point at all like I'm already like ahead of it but it will solve the argument I think it would be it would solve the argument and that would be great for the college football playoff committee but never never was the point I actually acknowledge that I think that I would pick Notre Dame if they played Miami on Saturday now river if you could pop up here for a second, can you tell everybody what my record is
Starting point is 01:19:08 against the spread this year? Yes, your record, hold on a second, is 4573 and 2. So who gives a shit what I think would happen? Who cares what I think would happen?
Starting point is 01:19:25 Who cares what you think? Who cares what the committee thinks? We're not projecting forward. We're projecting on the results that we have and what we think should never take precedent over the results.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I'm riding with Miami. because I am pot committed. But I know deep down in my plums what's going to happen. Your plums are notoriously unreliable. Your plums picked Texas a couple of weekends ago. My plums also are very reliable when it comes to me being delivered a shit sandwich. I know what's going to happen. But I'm going to go with Miami because I am also morbidly curious more than anything.
Starting point is 01:20:05 thing like I want I want the committee to have to choose between them and I want them when push comes to shove to pick Notre Dame because I want to see what they'll what how they'll explain that like I'm like if you're a person who roots for chaos because there are a lot of people that are like I don't know what's going to happen or how it's going to happen but what I do want is a mess at the end of the year that we can't possibly clean up and the committee for a decade has been fortunate to only have been delivered a one unsolvable mess, which was Florida State, Alabama. If they are delivered a mess, and A&M loses to Texas and they have all these teams in there, that might actually make it easier.
Starting point is 01:20:45 So it's not down to just Miami and Notre Dame. I just want to see how the committee will deliberate under that circumstance. I'm going to take Notre Dame, I'm going to take Pittsburgh to cover, but Miami to win. Oh, there you go. A little hedge there. Is that a good hedge? It is a good hedge. I'm also going to take Pittsburgh to cover because I'm looking at the weather and it's going to be cold and you're giving me almost a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:21:10 I'm going to watch this spread. If it goes up, I'm going to take the mulligan and take more points. Just give me all the points you're going to give me for this because. I'm changing my mind. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I think people think Miami stinks. They do not stink.
Starting point is 01:21:27 They've got a lot of things. They do not stink, but they are a bunch of Florida guys going into the cold against a team that is, not bad you want to know what's really funny like i am getting accused of being a miami homer like 30 times a day i've never covered a miami home game i've been on miami's campus once because that's where they practiced uh for the orange bowl when i was covering it one year i have no affiliation whatsoever to miami other than i have a friend who's a miami fan uh i think miami's got a really good front seven i think if carson beck plays well like what is pit some sort of masterpiece okay it's going to be cold out half their roster's
Starting point is 01:22:07 from florida i'm going to lay the point miami's a better team than them they're going to win by a touchdown right right right give me pittsburgh to cover baby drop temperature drop give me pittsburg to cover you have a short uh 31 degrees at kickoff and cloudy you have a short memory because picking pit to cover games used to be the bane of your existence and maybe it'll be it's too legit to pit i I remember, I remember, it was a Pitt, NC State game, actually, that I picked. It was the mayonnaise. Yeah, they caused me to have to eat the mayonnaise. They used to be the bane of your existence, and now they're going to be the Ruben bane of your existence.
Starting point is 01:22:44 You're saving that one up. I don't know. I know what's going to happen. I'm just looking at the weather, baby. Yeah, yeah. And this is also historically the spot that Miami fails in. Forget like the Notre Dame stuff. Just like this is Syracuse last year all over.
Starting point is 01:23:00 again. We'll find out Miami at Pitt, noon Eastern on. Let the record show I have Miami minus six and a half. There you go. And I have Pitt plus six and a half. Got to pick some of these home dogs this week. Got to pick them. Got to. The question is, will you pick Washington as a home underdog? Big rivalry game, Washington, Oregon. Oregon is probably in the playoff. Probably does not need to win this game, but it certainly wouldn't hurt. It's very much like old miss where if they lose and there's some bit thieves it gets a little murky but as long as they win they're comfortably in organ is a seven point favorite on the road this is a big rivalry game so let's talk washington because washington is eight and three this year i think jed fish
Starting point is 01:23:50 probably looking this as an audition to potentially try to get the job at his alma mater Florida if Lane Kiffin does not choose Florida. I don't know that Jed would be the only candidate. I think there would be other candidates that they would also consider if Lane doesn't pick Florida, but I think Jed is one that they would consider. It would be quite the case if he were to beat Oregon. Now, Washington fans don't want to hear that because they just lost Kalin DeBoer to Alabama. If their coaches making progress and wins nine games, they don't want to lose him.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I will point out also, Jed has a $10 million buyout if some other school wants to hire it. So it's possible people look at the price tag and say, nah, we're good. But if he has a winning against Oregon and they finish his season 9 and 3,
Starting point is 01:24:40 that is a big, big jump. Yeah. Are we back on Oregon's badass yet? Or like, are we still like behind on that? I think we are back on Oregon's badass. And here I want to, I want to, can I read you the games that Washington has won? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Colorado State, UC Davis, Washington State, Maryland, Rutgers, Illinois, Purdue, UCLA. Any of those tickle you in the plums? They don't, no. Okay. Illinois is probably the best win of that, but Illinois just lost to Wisconsin. Just like, oh, I don't know, Washington lost Wisconsin a few weeks ago. So this is a long way of me saying they are an eight and three. team had the big 10 schedule been different they probably wouldn't be yeah the um the team that i
Starting point is 01:25:38 watched on saturday play usc is a team i think can win playoff games um i'm not sure i know it's a rivalry game i know it's on the road i think organ is it's possible that we're going to get the inverse of last year or last year they spent all year in the sunshine beating the crap out of everybody beat Ohio State in the regular season, won the Big Ten, and they were the apple of everyone's eye, the unquestionable number one team in the country, and then they got their doors blown off in the playoff. This year, they lost a regular season game at home to Indiana, have flown under the radar all season, but are also very good, has not been part of the conversation at all, and then rises up at the end and shocks people in the postseason. So I think Oregon's
Starting point is 01:26:17 going to make a move starting on Saturday into the national conversation in a way that it hasn't been in the in the last few months and i think that if we were to fill out a bracket right now we don't know what their draws would be or who they would have to play or if they're going to be faced with ohio state in the second round again i don't know but oregon to me is a team that i feel pretty comfortable like moving pretty deep into that bracket um so i'm going to take them to cover the game i think they're a really good team to playing well really good players i don't know what washington brings at the table in this matchup to to keep it close i mean Washington does have some very good players.
Starting point is 01:26:50 This is, because we like DeMond Williams, who depends on the game, but we love Jonah Coleman. We love Denzel Boston. Like they got some, some ultra-talented player. They have some premium players, but I think Oregon just has, Oregon just has more. Yeah. And every level on both sides of the ball. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And you saw that against USC. You saw them with a very complete team win. that, you know, they did it on offense, they did it on defense, they did it on special teams. They really, really stuffed the run against USC. And USC's been a pretty good running team for a lot of the year. So the only other team that stuffed USC that way was Notre Dame. Yeah. So I think you're looking at a very good Oregon team.
Starting point is 01:27:43 This is a Washington team that is getting better. and assuming Jetfish stays, I think they're due to be contenders in the Big Ten in the coming years, especially as DeMond Williams rose into his talent. But I think Oregon's better right now. I think Oregon will cover the spread and cruise on into the college football playoff
Starting point is 01:28:04 and we'll see because they will already know what happened in the Ohio State Michigan game. So they'll know if they're playing for a spot in the Big Ten championship game or not. Yeah. So? All right. One more.
Starting point is 01:28:20 One more. We go now to the loveliest village on the plains. Alabama at Auburn. Alabama is a five and a half point favorite. If Alabama wins, they are in the college football playoff. They are in the SEC championship game. If Alabama loses, they are probably out of the college football playoff. They are definitely out of the college football playoff.
Starting point is 01:28:46 SEC championship game. Auburn is playing with an interim coach. Auburn has two quarterbacks, both of whom are going to redshirt this year. And that's why one of them started last week. But that looked completely different than the one who started most of the year. This is going to get nuts. Yeah. This is a high likelihood of grab-ass game.
Starting point is 01:29:16 but also in all the games that we've gone through today is one team so superior to the other that like it's unbelievable that it's a single digit spread less than a score like Alabama is so much better than Auburn, right? No. Talk me through this. They're not from a talent standpoint? From a roster standpoint, they're so much better.
Starting point is 01:29:40 I think so, yeah. How? I know that Auburn has some guys on the defensive line. maybe roster standpoint isn't the way to put it if you're going to if you're going to like push me on like the star difference would you take cam coleman or would you take cam colman or any of alabama's receivers you're dirty germany and bernard ryan williams over cam colman if you're picking a team you are a bad man for asking me that question because you know i'm obsessed with cam colman that's that is purpose that's leading the witness like you know the answer yes but would i take cam coleman as an absolute as an actual player um yes i would probably take Cam Coleman over just about anybody you're going to ask me. You'd rather have Ty Simpson throwing and passes though. But I'm saying like, but the Cam Coleman in the application in which he's used
Starting point is 01:30:23 probably not. Like, I don't know. They throw him the ball that much. Or they don't have a functional enough offense to unlock his potential. So like, yeah, I guess in theory, sure, I would take him over a lot of players. I would take him over players on Ohio State's team too. Like, it's not, that's not fair. Keep going, though. There's two other
Starting point is 01:30:43 players on Auburn's roster that you can do that with and then it falls apart. Caldric Falk? Yeah. I mean, he's really good. Like, I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying that Auburn has no good players. Is Alabama's offensive line that good?
Starting point is 01:30:54 I mean, they don't run the ball very well. Alabama's, you see where I'm getting at. This is not as, as cut and dried from a talent standpoint as you seem to think it is. I do think Alabama is better and more talent.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Let me just ask you it this way without going player for player. There are 22 teams, uh, There are 44 players that start for both, like in total, for 40, for the two teams. Yep. If you had to just take a stab at it without, like, actually, we'd have to do a live breakdown of, like, every single player of every position. How many of the 44 players do you think that Alabama would have an advantage in? I'd say.
Starting point is 01:31:36 You'd have a guess. More than half. Would you say in the 30s, probably? I don't know if I'd say that. my guess my stab at it without doing an in-depth breakdown would be 30 to 32 that would be my now marry that with the functionality of the two teams they've got an advantage in talent but I've also got an advantage in function like I'm laying the points here and I know that it's Auburn and I know that things get wonky and I'm aware that two of the four most iconic
Starting point is 01:32:10 rivalry plays in the history of college football like reside in this game i cannot in good faith pick auburn plus five and a half because i think things could get weird high probability of grab us can i uh can i regale you with what has happened the last three times this game has been played in jordan hair stadium yeah okay let's go back to 2019 to a tongue of iloa is injured Mac Jones is replacing him as a starting quarterback. Mac Jones throws two pick sixes including a hundred-yard pick-six.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Alabama loses. We move on to 2021. Bryce Young got become a Heisman trophy winner. Part of his Heisman, maybe his Heisman moment was getting the ball down 17-10,
Starting point is 01:33:09 excuse me, down 10-3, with one minute and 35 seconds to go on the Alabama three-yard line. He then led Alabama on a 12-play 97-yard drive for a touchdown. 28-yard passage of Corey Brooks of 24 seconds left. Would you say the odds of
Starting point is 01:33:33 scoring from your own three-yard? line with a minute 35 to go, we're pretty high? No, no, I wouldn't. They end up winning in overtime. 2003. Fourth and goal from the 31. Jalen Mill Road, Isaiah Bond, touchdown.
Starting point is 01:34:01 This game defines Scrabass. this game when played in Jordan Hare Stadium is nothing but grab ass mm-hmm Mm-hmm Ari it's a five and a half-point spread
Starting point is 01:34:23 I'm going to lay the points thank you for the review do you know that's what makes grab-ass fun you're not supposed to see Do you know if when the last time the winning team covered a five and a half point spread in this game was
Starting point is 01:34:40 when it was played in Jurdonair Stadium? No. Do you know? I'm looking. I hadn't found it yet. Okay. Well, let me know when you find it. I would say it's 2017 that when Auburn won the West beat the two teams that played for the national title and then Alabama went on to win the national title.
Starting point is 01:34:57 But I was at that game. I just can't remember the final score. Yeah, 2614. So that was the last time an Auburn, Alabama game at Jurdon Hare Stadium ended with a margin of victory higher than five and a half. Ari, history, vibes, the spot, everything tells me. Auburn's covering here. I don't know if they're winning.
Starting point is 01:35:22 They may get punched so hard in the nuts that it'll feel like they can never recover. Because that happens. That was fourth and goal from the 31. That is what they did to Alabama at the kick six. That's what happens when they play this game in this stadium. Your whole diatribe here reminds me of you picking Oklahoma in the Texas game last year. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:35:50 By the way. Okay. Auburn's stanks this year. Okay. Who's better at picking games against the spread this season? You. But you do make some really stupid picks. except most of them win and most of yours don't you picked florida on saturday like that was dumb
Starting point is 01:36:09 i did that was one of the four that lost and i picked five that won but i'm not saying i'm just saying like it's like you're better at it but like you're also not give me auburn to cover war damn cover war damn cover if that happens by the way and auburn wins like this year is a absolute I'm trying not to be profane but like if Auburn ends up winning the game yeah thank you for doing it for me
Starting point is 01:36:39 like wow but listen are you want to hear a stat you know how I know you're going to have a terrible week huh producer river has been updating me throughout the show
Starting point is 01:36:52 on your picks okay you've picked eight of nine road favorites you're going to have an awful week oh boy you are going to have a terrible week yeah i'm going to have an awful week but you know he's going to have a great week i actually hope i do
Starting point is 01:37:14 because it's more fun that way you know who's going to have a great week all of us because this is what it comes down to this is why we do it this is the greatest week of the year i cannot wait and we will talk to you again on Tuesday.

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