Andy & Ari On3 - College Football Week 9 INSTANT REACTION | Ole Miss-Oklahoma, Texas A&M-LSU, Michigan-Michigan State

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

After an action packed Saturday slate, it's time to instantly react to all the action from today. Join Andy Staples and Ari Wasserman at 11:30 PM ET LIVE as the guys recap a loaded day of a games here: (0:00) On Tonight's Instant Reaction(0:47) BetMGM(2:30) Intro: #3 Texas A&M 49, #20 LSU 25(17:12) Brian Kelly at LSU(22:55) #22 Texas 45, Mississippi St 38 (OT)(32:34) Modelo(33:05) Memphis 34, #18 USF 31(35:37) #11 BYU 41, Iowa State 27(37:32) #14 Texas Tech 42, Oklahoma State 0(38:33) #21 Cincinnati 41, Baylor 20(40:42) #2 Indiana 56, UCLA 6(42:46) #6 Oregon 21, Wisconsin 7(44:07) #9 Miami 42, Stanford 7(45:03) Iowa 41, Minnesota 3(49:00) Ari and Goldfish(50:10) #25 Michigan 31, Michigan State 20(53:31) Nebraska 28, Northwestern 21(57:35) #8 Ole Miss 34, #13 Oklahoma 26(59:58) #4 Alabama 29, South Carolina 22(1:03:27) How to view Alabama?(1:10:07) Auburn 33, Arkansas 24(1:12:34) #17 Tennessee 56, Kentucky 34(1:17:20) Houston 24, #24 Arizona State 16(1:18:06) Big 12 Race, CFP Scenarios(1:20:05) #10 Vanderbilt 17, #15 Missouri 10(1:22:23) Wake Forest 13, SMU 12(1:23:22) #16 Virginia 17, North Carolina 16 (OT)(1:24:54) #7 Georgia Tech 41, Syracuse 16(1:26:16) Washington 42, #23 Illinois 25(1:28:05) Conclusion: Thanks for watching!   A huge show you won't want to miss! Our show is presented by BetMGM! If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works: 1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB.2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game.3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sureyou use bonus code CFB when you sign up! Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary. See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US). Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. This show is also sponsored by Modelo! Some things in life are just made for each other. Peanut Butter and jelly. Macaroni andcheese. Modelo and college football. If you’re watching this, it means you live and breathe football. All season long. You know what that makes you? A Full-Time Fan. Which means you deserve a Modelo. Because football wouldn’t be the same without you. Modelo is the official beer sponsor of The College Football Playoff. Join On3 today and get one full year of access to The Athletic included! https://www.on3.com/subscribe/C Watch our show on YouTube! https://youtube.com/live/8auWIH325jk Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Interested in partnering with the show? Email [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On tonight's Andy and our instant reaction show presented by BetMGM. Texas A&M goes to Baton Rouge and throttles LSU. Michigan beats Michigan State in East Lansing. A little backdoor cover action on that game. Also, Ole Miss beats Oklahoma earlier in the day. Maybe cementing an Ole Miss spot in the playoff. Texas comes back and survives. in Starkville.

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Don't forget, if you haven't signed up for bed at MGM yet, use the bonus code CFB and get your $1,500 first bet offer today. Welcome to an instant reaction edition of Andy and Ari on three presented by BetMGM. And Ari, we have a lot to talk about. I think we need to start in Baton Rouge. Do you want me to just get the numbers out of the way that I think everybody wants me to inform them of? Is it 5.3.5 million? Is that the number you're talking about?

53.8 million as of December 1st. If it's on December 1st of this year, it would be a little more if it's earlier than that. That would be Ryan Kelly's buyout. I don't think LSU's there yet. I don't think they're going to have to do that quite yet. I would not be shocked if there are staff moves as early as tomorrow with a biweek coming up and then Alabama. Texas A&M throttled LSU. LSU was winning this game at halftime, R.

Now, A&M had made some mistakes. You heard Mike Elko sounding very confident coming off the field at halftime, and you thought, okay, if they correct their mistakes, they're probably going to win this game. But the level of dominance in the second half, I did not see coming. It was just belt to ass, right? That's what people say, belt to ass. I would like to start by taking complete credit for cheering battered Aggie syndrome by myself.

Andy, A&M was 7 and 0. I think there was some question about, you know, whether it was kind of the other shoe was going to fall, that A&M was going to turn back into the pumpkin that everybody expects them to be. I was watching that game and like, it's just, they're legitimately awesome. Now, I don't know what that means in the SEC race. I don't know if that means they're going to go undefeated or if they're even going to make it to Atlanta.

They control their own destiny. I do know they're probably going to make the playoff. It almost seems like a certainty they're going to make it at this point. And I think they would be dangerous. Like the thing that really stands out to me about this team more than anything is the explosiveness and the athleticism they have offensively. And it can come from one of five different people. Marcel Reed is coming into his own.

They play with swagger. Their defense is very good. I don't know if it's elite elite, but it's good enough to keep them in a game. And the best thing about this team, you know, in this game, if you're an A&M fan that you take away from it is, is that, you know, there are so many different things that happen and have happened in Aggie's games this year that remind you of the way

things would have gone off the rails in the past, and it doesn't. That second quarter was really, really bad. And they were about to go up 21-9. They throw a pick in the end zone, LSU scores. And it's like, oh, my God, how are they down? They were just about to be up two possessions, and then five minutes later they were down. And, you know, you're on the road. It's a tough environment.

Everybody knows that Kelly came into the game. game 20 and one in that stadium in night atmospheres. Like you can, you know, you were expecting it to be a close bruising game that mistakes kill you in. And then they, they came out in the second half, cleaned everything up and then just beat the crap out of them. It felt like last year, but when last year's game happened, I don't know if I felt like the ceiling was as high for the team that I do this year.

Like, I just think everything just feels different. And I don't know how that's going to manifest in terms of results. But doesn't this team just feel different than past A&M teams? Like, it's starting to feel like actually real. out. Well, what's the phrase we keep using with these guys, relentless competence? And it was interesting because we saw a little bit of incompetence. We saw some mistakes in the second quarter. They were immediately fixed. They did not make those mistakes because they realized how well they were running the ball against LSU. And I think that they just, they established

the run early. Then you had LSU kept punting to Casey Concepcion and that didn't work out very well. The shots of Brian Kelly and his special teams coach on the sideline were priceless because it's like, but why? After the second one, it's like, why did you, why do you keep kicking to him? Why? So it's, but I go back to that Mike Elko half-time interview with Holly Row. Swanky. I said, yeah, what, what do you need to do to stop LSU? They're gashing you in the run game. He goes, the unblocked guys need to tackle. And that's it. It sounds like an Andy Staples podcast proclamation.

Whenever I say something, you just go, yeah, the unblock guys just need to tackle. That's it. The way you want to talk about something and I don't know how to say it, but I'm going to say it. Like, Elko gets a lot of crap. I feel like, you know, just in terms of just like his appearance and the way that he came into the situation from Duke. And like, I just, I don't know if people realize how. how swaggy the man is.

Like, he's like legitimately. I think people in the business do. I think the football people all do. They were, it was interesting because you talked to football people when he got hired at A&M, they're like, uh-oh, they're going to be a problem. And then because it's A&M, you're like, I got to see it first. Yeah. And then last year, they, you know, they started off well, but they didn't quite finish

that strong. This year, they have really shored up any deficiency. they had last year. Yeah, he gives me, like, want to play my heart out for that guy vibes, but also scared shitless of disappointing him type of a deal. Like, he feels like a hard ass, but also, like, knows how to, like, be the hard ass that cares about you. I feel like I can understand why this team is fighting together.

I think I can understand why this team has a high ceiling. And I think that obviously it goes without saying, too, that the people that they went out and got in the portal are major upgrades. I mean, Casey Concepcion is a guy who, you know, returns a punt and flips the game completely on its head. And that guy's not on the team last year. So that they're hitting in the portal. Right. Marcel Reed is developing in front of our eyes. Like, even those post game interview.

I mean, you saw the scene in Tiger Stadium at the end of the game, right? Like, I don't know. Oh, it's wild. Empty. The entire stadium was empty. And like A&M fans took out the entire student section bowl area, did the alma mater. And they were all singing and enjoying themselves. And it felt like it just, it feels like the team is finding.

itself. The program, I should say, is finding itself. And like something that you said earlier, I want to make a distinction, too, because the thing that we have always talked about with Mike Elko, and I think to a certain extent, Matt Rule, and the way that he has kind of helped turn around Nebraska from getting out of its own way is those relentless competence thing. And I feel like, you know, in the second half, I mean, in the second quarter, when they were outscored 11, nothing when they were making those mistakes and the roughing, early, the unnecessary roughness penalty and the pick in the end zone and all that stuff. that, like, those are just mistakes that are going to happen to everybody all the time in football.

And I think there's a line between mistakes and incompetence. And, like, at times in the past with A&M, it, like, it felt more like incompetence than it did just a mistake. And, like, now when they make the mistakes, it doesn't feel like it's going to happen over and over again. It feels like, okay, well, that happened, you've got to deal with it. How are we going to get better on the next possession, the next play, the next drive, whatever? And they do, they do. The interception in the end zone was a mistake. that the second interception was a tip ball, like, it wasn't that big of it.

It wasn't a bad throw. Like, Marceli didn't make a bad throw there. But those types of things could compound and lose you a game on the road, especially in Tiger State. Yeah. Like, even when LSU wasn't very good. Well, A&M kept its composure completely came out and just wrecked shop in the second half. And that's a dangerous team because they, look, LSU is not that good.

I think we know that now. But this is still a very athletic defense. They have a lot of good players to do what they did to that team in that short amount of time. Because it really, it all unfolded over the first, maybe the third quarter and the first few minutes of the fourth quarter. That was incredible. That's hard to do to anybody in a conference game. It's really hard to do it to a team that has as many good players at LSU.

And A&O's defense was playing like the score, like the only announcers were saying it, but like they were playing it like the score was zero zero in the fourth quarter. The whole time. The whole game they were hitting and they were arriving at the football. They were trying to punish people. Like it feels like a team that is on a mission. And like I don't know what the ceiling is.

Like I know sometimes they get like carried away and I just get excited. And like I just watch something on TV and I'm like a five year old and I run to the computer and just speaking to a microphone. So I don't like want to oversell. But like I do think this is a team that can win games into January. And I don't know where that, that, if it will happen or, you know, teams losing the playoffs all the time in the first round, even if they're very good. But I don't know if there is, let me ask you this, because I've been curious about this. So I think Ohio State and Indiana have probably earned the right to be one and two. Yep, you know, without question.

Do you put A&M, like, is there a line between Ohio State, Indiana, then A&M or does A&M jump that line and take over where Miami was going into last weekend, do you? they already were so they're already there for you okay i i have i have i have a and m in the projected playoff that that'll come out in the morning i have a and m number three i mean i just mean like in your mind oh in the echelons yeah yeah i don't really need because it's hard to distinguish between ohio state and indiana it is because indiana's best win is probably better in ohio state's best win they're both pretty dominant and i will say the indiana to win at Iowa keeps looking better and better. Yeah, Iowa's like pulling people out all of a sudden.

I don't know what's going on over there. But I saw the score is like 31-0-0 over Minnesota in the second quarter. No, no, we have to talk about that later. Like, could Iowa be a playoff team? Because I'm not, I'm not convinced that they aren't. Like, they have to be to Oregon to do it, but they might be able to do it. I mean, Halloween is right around the corner. We can talk about all sorts of crazy, scary things.

Like, I'm happy about that. But how about this, though? We talked a lot about A&M. Do you want to do a few minutes on LSU? Yes, we do need to talk about LSU because LSU is in big trouble right now. So this was the second loss of the Brian Kelly era at night at Tiger Stadium. The other loss was last year against Alabama. Circumstances are identical.

LSU comes in with two losses, needing a win to stay alive in the playoff race. They play a team with really good players, led by a. a mobile quarterback and they get their doors blown off. Same thing happened. I don't think it's going to get any better for them. You know, they had the all-state predictor, whatever, whatever for the rest of their games. And they had like a 22% chance to beat Alabama and a 38% chance to beat Oklahoma. Ari, I'm not sure. I mean, they might have trouble with Arkansas too. So they are staring down the barrel of seven and five right now, and that's not what they're paying for. I was sort of kidding when I mentioned Brian Kelly's buyout off the top because it's huge.

But look, if we've seen James Franklin get bought out, and by the way, Brian Kelly's buyout does include mitigation. So if he were to get another job, that comes off the bill for LSU. So this is not an impossible buyout. We viewed it as one going into the season. This is not an impossible buyout. He's not going to win a national title in year four. Nick Sabin, Les Miles, and Ed Orr's run, all won national titles by year four. He's not going to make the college football playoff in four years.

The best team he's had at LSU was the one that included the most players he inherited from Edorjorn when he won the SEC West in 2022. His teams have gotten worse. seemingly every year. So it's not a great situation in there for Brian Kelly. Friend of the program, Teabobre, former LSU offensive lineman and most hilarious guests I think we've ever had, was kind of tweeting through it tonight,

and I was following it. And I didn't realize this, but do you know what Brian Kelly's record is against ranked teams during his time at LSU? I'm ready for a bad number here. Five and 11. And here's what Teabob tweeted. And I think that like he's a pretty reasonable voice for LSU people, you know,

having been a player and, you know, kind of a rational but rational fan. Kelly's tenure hasn't been an absolute disaster, but the consistent failure on the biggest stages has made it feel truly awful. And I think that there is something to that. Like, you know, we joked at the beginning of the show about Kelly's buyout. You know, we have provided context. Pete Nicos wrote a story for us out on three. tonight about the details financially of what it would take to move on from him.

And I do wonder, too, at times, Andy, we get so caught up in, you know, what the results of games are individually from a week to week standpoint, but sometimes we lose sight of the bigger picture. And I think that the bigger picture at LSU is that it hasn't been a complete and utter disaster. Like, it hasn't been what they're paying for, but it hasn't been a disaster. But when you have a game like this, that's on national television. television, you're at home, you're a few point dog, and then you let it get away from you.

I wonder if, like, coming into the weekend, the power brokers of LSU aren't nowhere near, you know, in a position to want to talk about how it would, you know, what it would take to raise the money and get to a point where they were willing to pay the buyout, and then a game goes so poorly, so publicly with everybody watching that you get shoved into a realm that you didn't know you were ready to be shoved into. I think that's exactly what happened with James Franklin. I don't think the power broker that Penn State wanted to go into that two-game stretch against Northwestern and UCLA having to question what would have to happen to get to that point that they got, and then they acted quickly. Like, I just don't know if, like, something like that makes the timeline speed up on something like this.

Yeah, and they have an open date, which is, it seems to be a logistical convenience for these sorts of things. I want to point out a comment from Adam in the chat. I don't think any coach would have done better with the talent Kelly had. Adam, whose job is it to acquire the talent? It's Brian Kelly's job. So that's also his fault. I feel like I'm back doing the Oklahoma Ole Miss video that we did earlier. Yeah. It's also his fault. I feel like there's like this weird separation from fans today about. Do fans not understand what the job of a head college football coaches like i actually think that not having the talent to compete in games like this is a bigger problem than losing the game like right because it's a longer term problem it's

not something to be fixed next week it's not like oh we had our heads up our ass for four quarters and we lost to n iu like it's like we have a fundamental talent problem in our program like adam was it kelly's fault that underwood got bought out by michigan yes also bryce underwood would not be lSU starter this year so it wouldn't change anything this year But yes, it was his fault. So here's the fans at LSU, by the way, tonight. Fire Kelly! Yeah, so that's bad.

Did you see the sign that was being held up throughout the broadcast? It said, Kelly's got to go, G-A-U-X. Yes. I saw the Tex-Ags tweet of that in front of all the Aggies singing the Warham. Yeah, they were really enjoying themselves singing that. Adam again, Adam's going to die on this hill. Michigan gave him millions. LSU didn't match it talking about Bryce Underwood.

Yes, LSU's fault. It's a choice, but it's their fault. Dude, you know what the final score of the game would be if Bryce Underwood was on the team right now? 49 to 25. Yes. Or worse. I think it might have been the same exact thing because he wouldn't have played. Well, actually, it might have been the same

because the backup quarterback came in and let a touchdown drive. So Bryce might have been in that position to do that at the end. It might have been, it might have like finished 49 to 25. Yeah. Yeah. The price underwear things irrelevant to this conversation because he was not going to play at LSU this year. Yeah.

I don't know why we're even entertaining that. I just, I think that like, this is not what you pay for. This is not what you paid for. And I don't know, like, even if you zoom out and try to regroup and, you know, you have a good portal class, I think they're excited about the recruiting class. Like, is next year better? You're breaking in a new quarterback next year, right? Like, you were excited about this year.

Yeah. It's LSU. You're supposed to be able to fall ass backward into championships. Yeah. So, like, that's the thing. At some point, you kind of are which are. Now, I will say, if Brian Kelly was a little more likable guy. would we be having this conversation this quickly?

I think because it's LSU, probably yes. Another school, maybe not. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, likeability is also, you know, a factor with this sort of thing. I don't know. I mean, we knew coming into, it's like, this is the thing, too.

It's like we spent all week talking about how LSU isn't good enough. And then they show everybody that they're not good enough. And it's like, really know how much there is to add to that. It's like they're not there, period. Like, you know, our guy, Cody Belair, our national scouted on three, he asked us this in the chat. Who would you two have at the top of LSU's wish list for head coaches and is the correct answer to the current Notre Dame head coach? Listen, Marcus Freeman would be on everybody's wish list. Yeah, I saw somebody tweet how many coaches can lay campaign coach at the same time next

year. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's certainly, well, we're going to talk about, and we already have a video on the Ole Miss Oklahoma game, but we're going to talk about what happens next in that situation because, listen, Ole Miss being in the position they're in right now is going to make it hard for Florida to get Lane Kiffin. If LSU were to open too, like, God bless, Lane Kiffin is going to have so much money from somebody. I think this works well with Cody's comment here in the super chat. What's worse for Brian Kelly? Is that Notre Dame after he leaves Marcus Freeman? It's significantly better Notre Dame in a shorter amount of time. Could you imagine if he replace him at LSU and then won a national title in year two? Just did it did it to him at two places. Yeah.

Oh, my God. It would just be incredible. Yeah. All right. So we'll see what happens. I would not be shocked at their staff changes in Baton Rouge tomorrow. I'm not thinking it's Brian Kelly getting fired. I think he's going to have more chance to turn it around.

I don't think they want to fire him. I think they want him to be their coach still. There was one specific instance of a disagreement with the staff member that was like publicly shown on the broadcast in the second quarter when they had no timeouts down in the red zone and they threw into the flat. And Joe Sloan was up in the box and they showed like Kelly yelling into the microphone. You can't throw the ball there with no timeouts. What are you doing, Joe? and, like, it was just, like, all over television. So, you know, that's also not a good look, too, when you,

when you have an opportunity to see. Well, a lot of LSU fans have been saying, what are you doing, Joe, referring to Joe Sloane, the offensive coordinator. So I think that is going to be an issue in the coming days, and we'll figure that out. Let's go to a coach who started the day dealing with rumors about his job. Perfect segue.

I have been refuted. fell behind, and everybody thought this team was dead. But Texas came back, rose from the ashes like a phoenix, and won in overtime in Sarkville, and poor Mississippi State. They were allergic to winning. They just don't know how to close a game out. We saw it against Florida last week. We saw it against Texas this week.

Heartbreaking gut-wrenching loss for the Bulldogs. Obviously, the Mississippi State angle is far less interesting than in Texas. angle, which we'll spend most of the time on. But Jeff Leby, we need to have a conversation about some of these late game decisions that he's been, I mean, like they blew it today. Like Texas won the game, but Mississippi State mismanaged, I think, three or four different situations down the structure of that game that cost him. But anyway, yeah, Texas started the day in an interesting place.

Yeah, let's start with that. Go ahead. Yeah. So Diana Rossini of the Athletic posts a tweet story saying, saying that Steve Sarkesian is seeking an NFL job, essentially. And what we don't normally see is a coach's agent just directly refuting something like this. And very quickly, Jimmy Sexton and Ed Moronowitz, the agents at CIA who represent Steve Sarkisian, were like, no, that didn't happen. It's false.

They put out a statement. And again, it's very unusual for agents. to do that. That does not normally happen. And Steve Sarkesian was very fired up after the game about that situation. Here is Steve Sarkesian talking about that rumor. Yeah, I'd love to touch on this. So bear with me for a second because it really pisses me off that one person can make a report that in turn the entire media sports world runs with as factual to the point of my agency and my agents have to put a statement out that they never have done historically c a jimmy sexton and ed manowitz have never did do that but i had to do that to protect my locker room and my team

and i thought it was absolutely ridiculous i thought it was completely unprofessional of that person to put that report out and the fact that everybody ran with it is borderline embarrassing for the media and i respect what you guys do i really do and everybody else but the fact that everybody ran that as truth is really embarrassing okay so i've got a small circle when i make decisions on what i do and what i don't do and nobody would speak on my behalf without me knowing and so where that report came from i'd love to talk to that person because it's absolutely ridiculous so on three didn't by the way our connected reporters did say hold off on this so just throwing that out there not everybody Well, yeah, like the thing that, I don't know how much inside baseball we want to do with like how reporting works and where things typically come from and who's in what league, but like Diana's an NFL reporter.

Yeah. So a lot of times when you see college news breaking from the NFL, like there's like back channels that, I mean, it's not usually where it comes from. It would probably be coming from somebody that's more connected in the college realm. And then also I think that there's this misunderstanding and I think I saw some in the chat too, Andy, of like, If the agency is denying it, then they're the ones who did it type of a deal. And like, oh, no, no, no, no, if they're the ones who did it, they're normally like, hmm, no, nothing to see here. Don't, don't, don't call me, don't ask me anything. Watching it happen.

Yeah, like, you don't. Yeah. So, because, like, they would have nothing to gain. I mean, think about it from a business standpoint. What would the agency that's trying to max the person? They actually would want you to think that Steve Sarkesian wants an NFL job and some NFL team wants to hire him because he's, he's going to make more money that way and they're going to make more money in commission that way.

Yeah, everybody wins. You make more money. You extract value and that's what people do all the time. I mean, you made a joke about Dan Mullen trying it. Like, that's not what happened. I did. I did. The reason I think that was possibly his agent is because he went to Schefter with it.

Yeah. So anyway, obviously, I believe Steve here. I don't know that that was a, I mean, I don't know that what his desire is or whether he would ever entertain a Titans job or any other NFL head coaching job. I think every head coach in college football would probably entertain an opportunity to be a head coach in the NFL. But I don't think that he woke up this morning or at any point this week, like with a burning desire to pursue that publicly. So, you know, I don't know how much of an impact you think that that had on the game today or if it was just, more instance of Texas having some issues up front on their offensive line, but Arch did set a career high in passing yardage today. Now, at the end of the game, he was not the quarterback

in the game and overtime that helped. Yeah, he got hurt. He got hurt and didn't come back into the game. So I think that that's something to monitor, but like for four quarters of football, four quarters of a game that we talk about. You know, we were talking about how Texas is broken, how Steve Sargesian had to deal with these rumors, and like the way the game ended, like, they won, congratulations,

but like it wasn't a great day for Texas, I don't think. No, and Steve Sarkeesian after the game said, we'll know more when we get back to Austin with regard to Arch. That's not a promising sign. Oh, by the way, they get Vanderbilt next. They do. They get them at home. I think that's a really pivotal game for them for obvious reasons.

You know, I think Vanderbilt comes in. We'll be a top 10 team. I'm sure I wonder what the spread will be. We'll probably talk about that on some videos on Sunday. If I had to guess, that'll probably be one of our review videos. But, you know, I just like, I feel like it's interesting because Texas is still only a one-lost team in the SEC. And Texas still has a lot of pretty good players, but it just does not feel to me like they are going to be competitive. played vandy georgia in texas a and i have zero confidence that they're going to run the table yeah

zero i i mean with i'm with you you know i don't know if you have the clip river uh that we were going to run on our video but like i made my my thoughts pretty clear on what i felt about texas this week um and those came to fruition i think texas ended up winning the thing that bothers me more than anything and you guys are going to see it on monday but like i took the points here and like i'm going to be wrong on monday Andy covered, I'm wrong. And it's like, but I mean, it's the same thing with Michigan and Michigan State.

We'll talk about that later. I know, but I just like, I need to get a good record on the books here and I can't do it. I just, that was unbelievable. Yeah, so like Texas is got, has personnel issues that you cannot fix within the season.

Mm-hmm. And that's just going to be a problem that plagues them through the end of the year. Now, they're crazy. They're fun. They have a pretty famous quarterback that I hope is healthy enough to play next weekend. But as it pertains to any expectation that they're going to be competing for anything, conference title or beyond. I was out on that notion last week and nothing happened on Saturday to change my mind about that.

I think that's a fair analysis of that. And I just don't think they're going to be able to run the table. I think the rest of the schedule is too hard. they're going to run into somebody they can't handle. It may be Vanderbilt next week. It could be Georgia on November 15th, or it could be A&M, or it could be all of those. But Kyle, this is a really good way of putting it.

Texas is a deeply fought team with a great defense and some heart. I would push back on great defense based on what we saw today. Well, it is kind of funny because the narrative about Texas' team all year has been, not the narrative, the output, has been fractured offense, terrible offensive line, young quarterback getting his head beaten in and Texas' defense keeping them in games. And today, Texas gave up 38 points in regulation. So, you know, Texas' offense actually had a pretty good day. They scored 38 in regulation two, Archmanning through 346 yards.

Leading Russia was Wisner with 41, and then Ryan Wingo had one of his best days in college with 184 yards receiving. I think 60-yard reception, like, on one of the first few plays of the game, you know, if you score 38 points in regulation against Mississippi State, that should be an easier win than it was. But, you know, credit to them, too, because they could have, they could have just tapped out. I mean, they were down by 17 points and 10 minutes left in the game. So, so Vance in the chat says, do they stick with Arch or maybe look around? I don't think that's a question for now. Like, that's a much later on question. question. But since it's Vance and Vance is a Memphis alum, I want to move to that game next

because Vance should be very, very happy today. I want to hand out a Madello to Ryan Silverfield and the Memphis Tigers. Well, many medellas for all of you who are over 21. Grab yourself Medello, stay game day ready all season long. They were maybe not game day ready at first, but they were game day ready in the fourth quarter. Incredible comeback for the Memphis tiger. So kickoff means it's time for Medello. Medela is the official beer of the college football playoff, and Memphis might be in the college football playoff after beating USF.

It was one of the steps along the way that needed to happen because the American is still a meat grinder. This is one of the toughest games Memphis had on the schedule, and they were down 3117 in the fourth quarter, came back to win 3431. Huge, huge win for Memphis. Yeah. And another competitive conference that's crazy in the results, you know, one week it's one thing, the next week it's another. And yeah, but we knew coming into this game that this was going to be one of the most important results in the G5 race for that final or only playoff spot.

And Memphis really needed that. Now, I don't know, you know, schedule-wise, like it seems to me that there's a pretty good chance that these two will. play again. But it's not guaranteed, right? Yeah, there's, I mean, Tulane's still in the mix. Navy's still in the mix. So there's a lot less. And Memphis, by the way, has to play Tulane and Navy. They get them both at home, but it's going to be a tough November for the Tiger. So they're going to have to strap it up and come hard. Now, with the win against USF, that helps to have in their pocket. But remember, Memphis has that loss to UAB. which is going to look worse and worse as time goes on.

So USF, they are at Navy. That's the toughest one left. They're at UAB, which is where Memphis fell, but that's probably not going to happen again. Yeah, Navy beat FAU 42 to 32 today, and they're 5 in the American. I think they're the only team. Navy's a problem.

Navy's tough. And also, you know, on Friday night, while we're, you know, watching the games, North Texas dropped 54 points in Mestamaker, their quarterback through for 600. and eight yards and four touchdowns. And that's a team that didn't look competitively or athletically equipped to compete with USF.

So like to kind of put a bow on the Memphis game, like that was a really big win for Ryan Silverfield in the squad. Yeah. We got to give him a call, see if he wants to come on the show and talk about that because that, I would love to know what was said on the sidelines as the players were coming off throughout that fourth quarter. Memphis outscored USF 17 to nothing in the fourth quarter. And USF controlled the game the entire first three quarters and then Memphis took over in the end.

Yep. So we will probably delve into that more during the week. Let's talk about another big game that probably had some conference championship ramifications. BYU at Iowa State. And this is one where I kind of somewhat similar to Texas A&M LSU, where the road team, team struggles a little bit early, makes some mistakes early, falls behind, and then just blast them in the second half. Now, BYU had the pick six that really shut things down, but BYU was having to fight tooth and nail in this game, and then finally it breaks

open in the second half. Yeah, I mean, I think this is the game where BYU has to start taking a larger foothold on the national conversation. Like we haven't spoken, not we, like we collectively as the national media have not been giving BYU as due. Last year, I thought that they were more of a national conversation fixture at 8-0 than they are now. They're 8-0. And if you go on the road and beat Iowa State convincingly, now it looks convincingly,

4127, but they, I think they outscored them 24 to 3 in the second half, like you mentioned the pick six, but it was just another instance of BYW. you finding a way to win a game. And like now there's an open week for them and we're opening up to what might be the most important game of the day on November 8th, which is BYU at Texas Tech in Lubbock. So that is something to track. And I think that those two might be the top two teams to potentially win the conference and they're going to be playing on the road.

So it's going to be a good time. And Texas Tech went and beat Oklahoma. State, which we expected, they lost Will Hammond, who's their backup quarterback. So Baron Morton, the starting quarterback, was not dressed for the first half. Will Hammond injures his knee in a non-contact injury. He's out. They bring in Mitch Griffiths, the Wake Forest Transfer, who's the third string quarterback. Baron Morton gets dressed out at halftime. He's not ready to play yet, probably, but he was the emergency guy. So he gets dressed out. They didn't have to play him but that's that's a situation to monitor for texas tech as they go forward

but i mean you wonder how much it would have been had this final score not been 42 to nothing but there was never any real right it's oklahs state so uh but yeah my understanding was that baron morton is pretty close to playing so that will hammond's injury like isn't going to be that detrimental because by the time but like i saw joey maguire said that he has to have an MRI so it might be a serious deal right we don't know if hammond will be back but but but Morton should be back because, again, if Morton had to go in, he would have gone in. But, yeah. So that, keep in mind that one and the other Big 12 team that you really need to be watching.

By the way, this is another one that BYU has to play on the road later in the year. Cincinnati beats Baylor 41 to 20. Brendan Sorsby is freaking awesome. Do you see a break to do's ankles? Yeah, how much of this game did you catch? I watched it. I watched the whole game. Yeah, yeah, he's awesome.

he's slippery so this is this is really interesting because we watched Cincinnati you know they lose a close one against Nebraska in the season opener and they've been really good in Big 12 play like they've not

these games have not been that close so I'm excited to see what they look like going for because again they may have the best quarterback of all of these teams that we're talking about in the Big 12 and that's no you know no slight on Bear Bachmeyer

who's really good as a true freshman. But Sorosby's a veteran, and he plays like a veteran. He plays with such command of the offense. Like you never doubt. There was a play where he got, he gets hit so freaking hard on one play where he'd gotten a first down.

They were kind of near the goal line. And he just pops up and does that. Like, yeah, you never worried about him. I mean, every single time I watched Cincinnati play, I just like go back to when you were in town

for Big 12 Media Day and we were talking to Scott Satterfield. And he was like really gassing. up when we were off camera like he was like really excited about him and it's like yeah he wasn't full of shit when he was telling us that uh yeah and like the number one thing that ailed cincinnati last year was like uh lack of playmakers at receiver it seems like they've kind of remedied that issue and they can take you over the top now and obviously your quarterback uh playing that well kind of open some things up but you know they play their next games on the road at utah and i don't know if you've been scoreboard watching this afternoon but yeah they are

beating Colorado right now 40 to nothing in the second quarter so um yeah you know Utah is not going to be an easy place to travel to obviously so yeah yeah 12 is just being insane like it always is and uh what a fun ride it's going to be but i kind of feel like every conference is like that the SEC is insane agree americans insane the big 12 is insane the aces is one that's not there's one that's not there's one that's not the big 10 can we talk about indiana sure let's do but oh my god they're so freaking good god dude i hated that i hated like you know during the predictions like this is the one that i nailed it was like every disney movie has an ending this turned this wasn't a disney movie this turned into like saw like this is a schaesaw massacre right

from the beginning good lord i'd like to play a game first of the game neko drops back and aiden fisher picks it off and takes it to the end zone and that set the tone for the rest of the day I like Kurtzignetti we just I'm never I got to stop picking instant because I picked UCLA to cover the 24 and a half point spread I was like I know they're not going to win but they'll at least get within four touchdowns no they didn't yeah they could have laid 49 it would have been good uh still little lost yeah you know the difference between uh this year and last year with Indiana is like now when they blow people out by 50 it's not just like thrown aside

because they just haven't played anybody. It's like now that you have that win over Oregon. And like this is the thing I want to point out. I want to do my Big Ten brethren a solid here. And like I don't know. We'll get to the Alabama game. I'm assuming here shortly. Oh yeah.

But like the thing that is so fascinating to me and I don't know why it feels this way. And maybe I'm, you can put me and tell me you think I'm full of shit if I am. But like Indiana goes out and beats the crap out of Oregon. and by beats the crap out of i mean wins by 10 on the road and then like Oregon now is kind of viewed as like a second class citizen as a result of that right it may just be that Indiana is on ohio states level yeah yeah

but like losing games in the big 10 you don't get the same benefit of the doubt that you do when you lose an SEC game like when you lose an SEC game it's like well it's like it's a gauntlet everybody's good and it's like why is Oregon like not even interesting anymore because they lost by 10 to a team that's blowing everybody else out by 50. Well, also, look fickle, maybe their kryptonite, maybe Oregon's kryptonite. I don't know. Like, for whatever reason, they can't score on Wisconsin.

Yeah. But they beat them 21-7. I mean, yeah, they were up 21-0 and I think it was like zero-zero at the end of the first quarter and it was kind of one of those like, yeah, Wisconsin, because that was the game that they almost lost last year, right? Correct. Yeah. There's some sort of voodoo going on there.

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe the keying to beating Oregon, I mean, unless you're Ohio State, you can just thump them by 40. But like if you are a team that's like not as talented, maybe you just try to drag them into an old style Big Ten West game and then they're like chips malfunction or something. I don't have any idea. Maybe Dan Lanning felt the, you're just the Grateful Dead jerseys. They're just too full of peace and love. Did you see the, did you see the Nike Air Maxes that they released, the Grateful Dead Oregon ones? I did. I saw the whole, the whole line of Grateful Dead merchandise. yeah i don't know much about the rachel bed's music or like anything from that era really but like i understand their vibe and the tie-dye numbers and the swag that they give like dude organ's just cool man um i didn't like the numbers i thought that was a bit that was true

yeah i liked the numbers because it was like a understated way of like keeping the theme like if they would have been full-on tie-dye that would have been obnoxious i mean you want to talk about like disgusting uniforms like i don't know if we're talking about the miami game but like they were wearing camo. Did you see all the memes of people making fun of Miami's uniforms today? Yes, because it looked like they were blending into the field. It's like, you know, and people were making jokes. We'll go to Miami now. Miami was like losing to Stanford in the middle to late second quarter, 7-0. And it was just kind of like, oh my God, it's happening again. And then of course you had all the easy jokes that you could make as a result

of that happening, which is maybe Carson Beck can't see his receivers or is that just a Carson Beck problem. like, you know, all the things that you would get with camouflage jokes, and then Miami turned it on and just blew them out in the second half, 42 to 7, which I think amplifies how embarrassing what happened with Florida State was last weekend, again, because like even when you're in a close game

with Stanford, you can still win 42 to 7. Right, if you're good enough. And Miami just turned it on and was good enough. Let's go to a similar score. I want to go back to the Big 10. Okay. Iowa, Minnesota. I looked up, and this game was 31 to nothing.

It ended at 41 to 3. This is the Minnesota team that clobbered Nebraska last week. Yeah. Clobbered them. We have to kind of figure out what Iowa is. And look, we're going to find out. We're going to find out because Iowa plays Oregon in Iowa City next week. If I had told you three months ago that on the day that,

Penn State visits Ohio State, the most important game in the Big Ten would be the Ducks visiting Iowa City. What would you have said? Must be for second place. It kind of is, maybe for third. It's for third. Yeah, Iowa does not control its own destiny. There are one lost team in the Big Ten,

but they do have to play Oregon, USC, Michigan State, and Nebraska. So I think your premise is if they split, well, they are a two lost team because they lost the Iowa State in the beginning of the year. Right. So they have to run the table probably to make the playoff. But if they run the table, they beat Oregon and USC, Michigan State, and Nebraska, they're probably in. But, like, I'm not there yet with are they going to the playoff?

No, no, they're in if they run the table. I don't know if they can run the table. So they're off next week. Sorry, I got it right. I got my dates mixed up. They're off next week. The Iowa Oregon game is on November 8th. So.

Right. Iowa has played one wagon this year and they played Indiana to five points at home. They get Oregon at home. And like honestly, if Wisconsin is Oregon's kryptonite, then like maybe a good version of Wisconsin. It's super Wisconsin.

Super Wisconsin might get it. Mega Wisconsin. But yeah. Hey, I'm happy to talk about, I mean, we've talked about as much any team that we've talked about on our show since since its inception and like thrown up a scorebug of 41 to 3 and it being 31 nothing in the second quarter hey stand up iowa city take out take a bow yeah i mean that that's the thing this the way they're beating now they didn't

beat pen state that badly but they beat pen state which is a really talented team it's so funny to me is they drop 41 points dude and like mark ronowski threw for 135 yards and they're I know. How did you get to 41 with like 12 yards of offense? I'm going to look at the team stats here. Well, Grinowski, after the game, after the game, Grunowski is, that's just great complimentary football. It's like the ultimate complimentary football.

It most certainly is. And of course, Iowa scored on defense because of course they did. They scored in the punt game because of course they did. You know, how do you get to 41 points with no offensive production? It's by having a pick. and returning a punt for a touchdown. Like that certainly helps you. And you want to talk about,

that's what we always talked about when Iowa was like, had historically one of the worst offenses in the history of college football two years ago and they were in the playoff or, I mean, the big 10 race to the end of the year. And I was like, could you imagine if their offense was even semi-functional to go along with this defense and special teams unit? Like, it's like their defense isn't nearly as good this year as it was two years ago.

Still pretty good. Minnesota's a functional team. Can I give you a stat? Yeah. At one point, in the first half, this is in the second quarter, Iowa had out gained Minnesota 166 yards to one. One.

Pretty good. It's pretty good. It's like when Diet Coke was just one calorie, just one yard. Yeah, was it actually one calorie? I've always wondered that. Like, I don't think so. I think that was marketing. Yeah, it's like, how do you even get it to the?

Because aren't most labels like 20% estimates, like within the 20% range anyway? Yeah. Like, if you go eat a pack of goldfish, which I have. had like 12 of today um there's 110 calories on the back of the label but it's like actually might be like 137 and they just can't narrow it down all the way you know you're five years away from never eating another goldfish in your life you know what the sick part is is I'm even really like them like they're fine but I would never buy you kids are little they're just always there I never bought goldfish before I had a daughter and I'll never buy them once she's too

old for them but when they're and she'll get tired of them at like eight or nine she'll move on but like what is it about goldfish that it's like they're not very good but i can't stop eating them like that's a really good business model hell yeah and also how do was gold was goldfish from the beginning the ultimate children's snack or did goldfish just annex the children's market by marketing to them because i don't remember like when goldfish first came out like that wasn't just for like toddlers but now like every toddler in america is addicted to him Producer River just texted both of us, the snack that smiles back.

That's exactly right. Let us smile back on the world of college football. Not a sponsor, which we got really, really derailed there. Let's go, stay in the Big Ten. I want to go to East Lansing. This was not a pretty game by any stretch for Michigan. They did expand their lead.

It looked, you know, it looked like they were going to cover there with that long touchdown run at the end. but Michigan State made them fight for it quite a bit, especially through the first half. And that was kind of what I was looking for for Michigan State is that level of fight. Michigan handled it.

It wasn't the prettiest thing, but they were very much in control the entire way I felt. I am the biggest Michigan fan on the face of the earth right now. I don't want nine and two. Michigan versus undefeated Ohio State at the end of the year. Yeah. I need it. Like, I need it like air. Yeah.

Like, so every, I'm just, I'm peeping Michigan scores. I'm like, all right, just get these wins. I don't care if it's by one or by 30. I need you to be a win over Ohio State away from the college football playoff in November, November 29th is the day. I need to be with Andy in Detroit on November 28th at the all you can eat

buffet at the wonderful bed MGM casino. Yeah, at the end of June, Grand in Detroit. We got to make this happen. I got to tell you. We got to make this happen. I'm going to close that place. Black Friday buffet watching Black Friday football at the MGM Grand.

And then we drive over to Ann Arbor on Saturday for a game with one playoff berth on the line. The other team is going to have a playoff berth already. But psychological damage will be on the line as well. You know damn well with how that day is going to go. I'm going to overeat on Thursday because it's Thanksgiving. And that's like America's pastime. I will probably fall asleep at some point around 8.30 or 9 o'clock from a food coma. Not even finish the egg bowl.

I understand. Yeah. Which, by the way, the egg bowl is always on. And if it's a good game, I make it through. If it's not, I let the carbs take over. But I will wake up the following morning feeling nauseous or borderline disgusted with myself because I... Oh, Egg Bowl's Black Friday this year. Yeah.

Oh, good. So that won't happen. Andy, then I won't eat breakfast because I'll be so full and disgusted from the night before. I will go to the airport and fly to Detroit with nothing in my system. I will land in Detroit and I will get and by the time I get to the casino, I will be completely famished because I haven't eaten. in 18 hours, and then I will smash that buffet and recreate the same gluttonous carb-filled coma that I put myself in 24 hours later. Like, I already know, like, that's exactly what's going to happen, and it's going to be great.

Any place you can get egg rolls, pizza, and, you know, chicken parm on the same plate, it's a friend of mine. So your inter raccoon is going to come straight out. Yeah, I'm so excited about this. But, hey, there are other teams that still have two losses. before we head to back to the SEC, I do want to mention one more Big Ten game. Nebraska was in trouble for a minute.

They were. Against Northwestern. They were. And the Cornhuskers have a very timely turnover, or force a very timely turnover. And they score. And they hold on. It felt like they were going down like a sweet muffin there for a minute.

Yeah, this is the kind of win they need to have, and it's a good way to bounce back, because you add this to the absolute shalacking at Minnesota last week. If they'd lost this one, it would have been just devastating. Yeah. So this is much better in the chat. It says Northwestern point plus seven and a half was a lock. Tyler Shoemaker was one of his best bets this week.

He hit that. I think he went two and one on the best bets that he gave us. Yeah, I made this point on Twitter, and I think it's true. Like, I think that like Nebraska fans have probably, moved on from like the pipe dream of a deep playoff run or a playoff run this year and like now they've just graduated and rightfully so to like trying to get to nine wins and in winning the games that you would have lost in the past and I think that they've done that and this is like the right step in that direction I think that like two years ago this was an L because

Dylan Rayola threw a pick and a tie game like around midfield and the Northwestern moved the ball like into field will range very shortly after and then they came up with an interception on their side and stopped Northwestern scoring, went down the field, scored, and won the game. Like, that's not the way it would have gone in the past. So I think there is something to be said and something to glean from this of like, you know, hey, we maybe were not quite as advanced as we thought we were going to be this year. But at least we're not letting our season go off the rails because of what happened against Minnesota.

I don't know if I think they're going to get to nine wins or not. But what I do know is that every win here on out, I think this is the earliest since the 90. No, I don't know if it's the 90s. I saw a stat. It's the first, or it's the earliest, I think, since 2016 that Nebraska has become bowl eligible on the calendar. I think it's the first time it became bowl eligible in October. And we're not celebrating it. We're not even treating it as a real moment because, of course, they were to make a bowl game, mister. Remember two years ago we had that bit where they had five wins and, like, there were three games left. And it was like, we had like, Nebraska bowl eligible clock countdown of like, are they, are we on Nebraska

watch and then it felt like they were going to lose out and they weren't going to make it. And then they didn't. They did lose out and they didn't make it. Now they did it and it's not really moving the needle. We're talking about it. But I think that like given everything that's been going on with the rumors about Matt Ruhl and Penn State and, you know, losing the way they did against Minnesota

to, you know, obviously Nebraska wants them to win that game more comfortably. But the fact that we're able to win it is good. Can I beef up? our paradise weekend in Detroit. You ready? You ready? Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you're going to beat. So Nebraska plays USC at UCLA at Penn State.

Getting to 9 and 2 by the end of the season is going to be difficult. But it's not impossible. If this were to happen, Ari, that would mean at noon Eastern time on Black Friday, You and I could be at the buffet watching Nebraska and Iowa play for a spot in the college football playoff. Nine and two Nebraska versus nine and two Iowa. Winner goes to the playoff. Who says no? Yeah, the greatest thing about the invention of the iPad and tablets and even your cell phones is that like now you don't have to worry about the television situation in the buffet.

Like you can just bring your tablet in there and set it on the table. Yeah. I think that seems more fairy taleish than some of the other likelihoods of that weekend. But, hey, if that happens, buddy, I'm all for it. All right. Let's go back to the SEC. And Brooks in the chat says, have they already talked about Ole Miss and Oklahoma? Yes, we actually did a whole video on Ole Miss and Oklahoma earlier in the day.

So if you want a little deeper conversation about the Ole Miss Oklahoma game, what it means for Ole Miss, what it means for Oklahoma, then five, find that video on the On Three Sports YouTube page. It's also on all your podcast platforms. It includes a rant by me about not making excuses about Oklahoma. The one that he went on earlier in the show about LSU if you were here. Yes. Yes.

It's still your fault, essentially. But I do want to reiterate, though. This is huge for Ole Miss. This is the first of the Lane Kiffin Air, the first road win against the ranked SEC. team. So that's a huge deal. They were aggressive, made some mistakes. Lane Kiffin made some mistakes, which he admitted to, but they were mistakes of aggression. And it all came out fine. I like that

Ole Miss has a vibe that that's how they play. They're going to go forward on fourth down, sometimes when they don't need to be. And I think Oklahoma just could not handle that. go ahead go ahead we both wrote we both did a column off this game after our video and you know for the sake of ease here i think that your premise of your column was they're in the playoff basically which is true go look at their schedule if they don't make the playoff that means like a meteor hit i had i had so many people pushing back on that they're like they're like how do you know they're going to make the play look at the schedule and they can lose one of them like they have to go three and one

against this schedule, which is South Carolina, the Citadel, Florida, all at home, and then at Mississippi State, they're going to go at least three and one against that schedule. I'm sorry if that disappoints you, but they are. So, and I know it disappoints the Florida fans, because the Florida fans are all like, well, what does that mean? We're trying to hire Lane Kiffin away. And if you're a Florida fan, then you know your team can go take it from them. Go win the game.

They can't take it from him because they're probably going to win the other one. Well, maybe if South Carolina beats them Because South Carolina almost beat Alabama today Almost, of course, only cast in horseshoes and hand grenades Ari, I say this as someone who grew up a South Carolina fan That was some chicken curse stuff right there Like you knew There was this, I'm trying to figure out when I knew

When did I know? They were going to lose? Yeah When they tied it When Alabama was down by eight Yeah Nine or ten minutes left And then they went on a 14 play drive

That ended with a touchdown Jeremy Bernard scored a touchdown And then And then Ty Simpson hit the two point conversion To Quavis the tight end Where you just threaded the needle with that ball Yeah

That was it I thought that was good And of course The way it happened was more I thought they were going to go to OT But the fact that like South Carolina Like Lenora Sellers put the ball in the ground or out midfield.

It was like he basically gift-wrapped at him the win and handed it over. I will point this out to fellow betters. You know, Jeremy Bernard taking that last touchdown into the end zone was a total breaker. And you probably should have just like fallen down and kicked the field goal as time expired to preserve the under for people who were astute enough to take that bet. But like it was a interesting result. Now, I've been kind of saving this.

for the show. I haven't been that spicy tonight. Can I be spicy? Be spicy. So I think I alluded to this earlier on in the week when we were previewing the games, but I went on Bill and Doug show. So you know where I'm going with it. Yep. And the premise of their show was list out all the teams left in college football that you believe could theoretically win the national title this year. I had Alabama on my list, obviously. Bill had Alabama on his list. Obviously, Doug did not. And Doug went on a diatribe about how Alabama has not looked like a team that could win against top tier conversation week in and week out. See, here's where I disagree with Doug. Alabama's great against top tier competition. It's when they don't play top tier competition that you worry. That's the problem with back on is that they did beat Georgia, Vanderbilt, Missouri, and Tennessee all in a row. But if you actually zoom out a little bit, And here's what his point was.

It's like now that they are, they're seven and one. Of the last five games in a row, they could have won, or that they won, they could have lost three of them. Like, they could have, and it's going to be hard for them to win three or four games in a row. It's going to be hard for anybody to win three or four games in a row. But the thing I want to know from your standpoint is the way we frame this is important. And I think that we have two different types of fans listening to this. You have the Big Ten fan, which is, oh, well, they went on the road in the SEC,

so we're just going to have to hear about how gutsy they are. And then on the other hand, you have the SEC. It ain't where I'm going with that. Yeah, you have the SEC fan that is, it is harder to win in the SEC going on the road and beating South Carolina, a team that's going against this team. We saw the Oklahoma game last week. So, like, I have a hard time with this because I feel like we're in the same exact matrix that we were last year with the SEC, which is all these teams are ranked in the top 20.

A lot of the teams in the northern part of the country are in the Big Ten that have similar records are unranked. And I'm starting to wonder if like our rankings are flawed. And as a result of it, the results of these games are insisting upon themselves and we're giving who's unranked that deserves to be ranked and two. Iowa needs to be ranked. I mean, it's like, is the difference between going on the road? Is there a difference between going on the road and beating South Carolina and going on the road and beating Washington? Do you think Texas will be ranked if they lose to Vandy? They won't be ranked anymore.

That's the thing like Texas and Tennessee. That'll be their third loss. LSU, like they're all, but they're all going to drop. And the teams that you think are deserving the Big Ten are going to be the ones that replace them. Yeah. And I think that it all bears out at the end. But like I do wonder if like Ole Miss, the credit that Ole Miss absorbs absorbs from being. beating Oklahoma today is more than it deserves to absorb because the rankings are wrong.

Well, but Oklahoma won't. If Oklahoma loses to Alabama and loses to LSU, Oklahoma will not even be ranked at the end of the season. So everybody thinks it matters where they're ranked now. And the committee doesn't give a crap where they're ranked now. My point is going to look at them at the end of the season and go, oh, they beat a five-lossed Oklahoma team if that's what Oklahoma ends up being

and that's how they'll judge it or they beat a three-loss Oklahoma team if that's what Oklahoma winds up being and that's how they'll judge that. But I think me and you are always on the same page with like the committee once all the context is available they'll make the right decision.

I don't bring this up as I fear like we're not going to put the right teams in the play. Yeah, I think it'll all come out and wash. I think it's interesting though and the reason why I bring it up is like from a perception standpoint and how we frame the sport. I think that the credit that you, like, it's the same thing I brought up with Oregon and Indiana.

You know, it's like Oregon is a team that lost to Indiana, who might be literally the number two team in the country or is the number two team in the country. The thing is the big team needs some more teams at the bottom that can beat the teams at the top, that can give good games to the teams at the top. What if the reason that's not happening? Which they will, it'll be the same.

But I wonder if that's not happening this year because the teams at the top are much better than the teams at the top of the SEC right now. Like that's like that's where it starts getting. It's like, okay, well, you know, you have South Carolina who is good enough to push Bama. Well, what if Bama is like a 12 point dog against Indiana? I still think you're missing the point with Alabama. Like, you know what Alabama needs a top five opponent? Because then you're going to get the best version of Alabama. The best thing that's going to happen in Alabama in the college football

playoff is they don't let any five and seven teams in. That's who I'd worry about. Yeah. So we did talk about this to bring it back to Bama about are you past wondering or worrying that the Kalin DeBoer M.O. is going to pop up again. Oh, no, I'm very worried about it again after today. So they won, and I think it's important as, Dan and Tyeth, that's all a verbal, love to say, win your clunkers.

I thought that was a clunker. That was definitely a clunker. Do you, but now moving forward on Alabama's schedule, are you on high, are your antennas up for another spot where they could get dropped by a team? Like, LSU and Oklahoma are those teams. Auburn, they'll get up for Auburn. Yeah. So do you think that there's a, like you are more worried that they could lose one of those two games now

than you would have been yesterday? Yeah, because they just did it again. they didn't show up for three quarters of this game. And remember, their offense was really struggling because they got a touchdown early from a pick six. Their offense was struggling mightily for a lot of the game. Now, it got better and they overcame it. And that's, I'm less worried than I was, you know, start of the fourth quarter on Saturday.

But the fact that it was against this team and not the other. four teams they just beat, which I realize the Georgia game was close and the Vandy game was close and the Missouri game was close. But those are good teams. This is not. Like that's the fact that they got pushed harder by Alabama than they did by Vanderbilt or they did by, really they did, I mean, Georgia had a drop pass that would have won the game. But the fact that it looked harder to win at Alabama, at South Carolina than it looked to win at Georgia for Alabama, that it is troubling but here's i actually do think this though um first of all tie simpson's awesome yeah that that's like he's like germy bernard is awesome jeremy bernard is awesome ryan williams had a bad drop but he's

awesome Alabama also just got done playing four ranked teams in a row and they went on a road against a team is there a cumulative effect somebody into that stadium as you point out somebody goes to columbia and gets clipped every year like i in and they ended up winning the game like you can take that away too like depending on how i i think that like a team that just went through the gauntlet that that they did deserve some benefit of the and that's why i'm not as worried that's why i'm joking that they're lucky you know five and seven teams are going to make the playoff because i still think i'm going to make the playoff their aliens played great today so like except lenore sellers which by the way not really big fan of

piling it on the players but like when you think about the amount of shit that dj lagway and Arch Manning have taken from the public this year for underperforming and not meeting their expectations. Like Lenora's Sellers is like kind of like walking around whistling and hoping no one notices that he's not. Oh, he's gotten it heavy locally, but yeah, not nationally. Yeah, nationally, I don't think people have gotten up to. And like, I still think he's probably going to be a first round pick because he's a freak

of nature and like measurables are always going to like drive people crazy. But I was anticipating so much more production out of him this year than we've gotten. Now, a lot of it is the same stuff we're talking about with Arch Manning where the lines not great. Yeah. So they've had to deal with that. But yeah, it's, it's not been anywhere near what anyone envisioned for Lenora Sellers this year.

I do think it's cool as hell that he gets to throw to his brother, though. Like, whenever they make a big play, I think to myself, like, they made that play on a playground somewhere like 15 years ago. Oh, yeah. I think that's badass. Yeah, now they're doing it in front of 85,000 people. Let's move to the other side of the Iron Bowl because Auburn played a really interesting game today, too.

They did. this was over this was the end of the Hugh Freeze era into the first half Jackson Arnold pulls the Peyton Thorne throws the pick six Arkansas goes up and you're like that's it because remember Auburn jumped out to a 10-0-0 lead and then Arkansas came back and took the lead Arkansas that's it done quarter 21-0 nothing it was a pick six in there and everything yep but then Hugh freeze finally changes quarterbacks Ashton Daniels, the Sanford transfer, comes in. And lo and behold, the offense starts moving the ball.

And Auburn survives this game. And if we look at the rest of the schedule, Bandy and Alabama are pretty tough. But Auburn, if it plays good defense, may have a chance. The other games seem winnable. Kentucky and Mercer are certainly winnable. So maybe maybe there's a way out for Hugh Freeze.

Maybe. The way out is going three and O in their next three, right? Yes. Yeah, I don't think he has to win the Iron Bowl, but yeah, it would be going three out in the next three. Three and a no. The offense moved more functionally in the second half. Hugh Freeze just messes up his quarterbacks, man.

And I don't mean like messes them up like from, a developmental standpoint. Like he didn't pick the right one, maybe. He didn't used to do that. That's what I don't understand. Again, it's a half of football. Maybe you play Ashton Daniels. Well, that's the other thing is perhaps when you have no film on Ashton Daniels

and you don't know what the offense will look like with him, it may be that now that there's a half of film out there on him, that Kentucky just, you know, Brad White, the D.C. at Kentucky just create something to shut it down. We don't know that. We'll see. But Jackson's not the starter next week, right? Like that's done. Can't be.

Can't be. Right. So congratulations. Hugh Freeze. You survived. And I think there's a path out, which I wasn't sure there was going into the weekend. Let's go to Lexington, Ari. Tennessee goes to Kentucky, wins 56 and 34.

I don't think anybody's surprised at this result. This comes after Kentucky, pushed Texas to overtime, but ultimately lost. Where are we with Mark Stoops right now? Where are we? Where are they? Well, that's what I mean. The over-under of the game was 55,

and Tennessee covered it by itself. Yeah, yeah. So a week after the defense looks much better against Texas than it had, this happens. And I just, so they've got Auburn next week, Florida the following week, and we don't, we have no idea what the hell Florida is going to be. Then they got Vanderbilt, Louisville. Like, this is, this could go real bad for us the way. Anything with their coach, does this strike you as a mid-season thing potentially?

Or does this strike you as a regroup in the offseason and try to figure a way out of this? I think you can, you can let this go the whole season if you want. I don't think it's going to change anything. Yeah, like we're not like going to wake up tomorrow and be on Mark Stoops alert, are we? I don't know. We talked to Matt Jones a few weeks ago from Kentucky Sports Radio, and he said they would be willing to do the buyout, which again, we talk about buyouts a lot. I always say the way the buyout is structured matters more than the dollar amount. This is the most school unfriendly buyout in America.

he is owed $37 million within 30 days in a lump sum it is not payable over the length of the contract it is due right frigging now and that makes it very difficult to pay because you know who has that pile of cash on hand so that's why I find it very hard to imagine they would do it mid-season but if you're going to do it i mean if you'd ask me before we talked to matt jones two weeks ago are i said there's no way they do it at all so i don't know that that my opinion on this is going to be right because if you're going to do something if you're willing to do something like that as long as you've got the money it doesn't matter when you do it i mean mad jones also made an important point which is that like they're like doing a lot of investing in like infrastructure

and buildings around campus and basketball and all that stuff and it's like not it's not a great time uh for them at the moment too so like waking up on october 26 i mean like we're done with this is i don't think that that's going to happen so uh and i don't know if he'll be the head coach there next year but maybe this is an off season let's see if we can come to an agreement type scenario but if i were mark stoop's i'd be like here's the agreement i'm either coaching next year or i'm getting my money like that's that's exactly Exactly. There's no reason to negotiate at this point. You get your money.

Yeah. So, I mean, at least they scored 34 points. It wasn't like, I mean, this doesn't jump off the page as badly as the LSU result does. But, you know, it was a good win for Tennessee to, you know, just keep piling up some wins and seeing where the chips fall in the SEC. Maybe the Tennessee volunteers can play a big game at the end of the year here. well so we have an elimination game next week involving tennessee Oklahoma goes to knoxville losers out both two lost teams

the elimination games kind of kick in and earnest now LSU's out they lost Texas A&M but man I feel like the season just started like last week how are we already this far into the season but like Tennessee's only two losses are to Georgia and Bama, which you can

accept, and their final four games are against Oklahoma, New Mexico, State, Florida and Vanderbilt. Like, I think that it's conceivable that they could go four and oh in that stretch. I don't think that's a crazy thing to, like, say is possible. No, it's not inconceivable, but it's very difficult. It's one of those where

like Oklahoma and Vandy, being honest, now at least they get those at home. But it's very difficult to run the table against that. So, they're going to and they get more fun to watch the more the longer they stay alive so but oklahoma's in the same boat now oklahoma's also got a very very difficult rest of the schedule so

winner's still alive next week between oklahoma and tennessee also elimination games cincinnati at utahs got two losses cincinnati's only got one cincinnati can survive utah probably can't uh now obviously the big 12 is a little bit different because you still may have to win the conference title. But I don't know. I'm wondering, Ari, if, like, Cincinnati keeps playing really well, BYU plays really well, Texas Tech plays really well, is it possible that we have, oh, Houston, by the way, also playing really well.

They beat Arizona State. Arizona State is the most confusing team in the entire country. Yeah, no Jordan Tyson this week for them, so that's always tough. But could we have two teams at the top of the big 12? that can both get in like do both teams that make the Big 12 championship game get

and I think there's a there's a universe where that happens well here's how I look at that Andy I want to say this before you move on to the next game okay let's call it the Notre Dame test is there a chance

is there that's how I would look at it like is there a chance that the second best team in the Big 12 will have a better resume than Notre Dame at the end of the year right yeah do you have because it's conceivable because Texas Tech and Sincey don't play.

Is that right? I'm remembering that correctly, right? Yeah, I think in order for the Big 12, the second place, Big 12 team to have a better resume than Notre Dame, I think it'd be very difficult. You need Texas Tech and Sensi to play each other as 11 and 1 teams in the championship game. Yeah, but I also think quality wins are going to, I think in order to beat out Notre Dame,

you're going to have to have a quality win that they don't have. And I wonder, too, you know. But some of these conference games are going to be quality. Like Texas, to have that scenario happen, Texas Second Cincinnati would both have to beat BYU. BYU could be a 10 and 2 team in that scenario. Well, here's the thing that's actually kind of unfolding that, you know, might come up to help Notre Dame.

USC is playing Oregon at the end of the year, which might turn out to be a pretty big banger of a game because USC still only has one loss in Big Ten play. And I think you can make the case that U.S.C. is playing. USC has one of the five best offenses in college football. If USC goes on a run, beats Nebraska, Northwestern in Iowa in the next three weeks, and then goes into that Oregon game in late November as a lot of team, that would be very helpful to Notre Dame, but also could be a situation where USC could still back door their way into the playoffs somehow.

So, you know, we'll see, you know, how that goes. But, like, from the Big 12 standpoint, the reason why I have a hard time believing it is is that a team that has two losses in the Big 12 and doesn't have a sexy win is not going to get in, I don't think. Like the 10 and two second place team is probably not going to get in. So another game that could be an elimination game is Vandy at Texas. Texas has survived by the skin of its teeth the last two weeks. Now they're going to play a team that's a lot better than the Kentucky and Mississippi State teams that push them to overtime. Yeah. And they may not have Archmanning. Yeah. Vanderbilt got a good win

today against Missou. That's one of those like you, that's like one of those big ten talking point games. Like is getting a win over Missouri a big game? Like I don't know how to categorize. I'll find out. I mean, Missouri plays Texas A&M.

We're going to need, we'll get more data on that. We can't get some of the showro. If you doesn't end up beating any of the truly good teams on the schedule, that's a telling thing. Missouri lost Booper Buell today to what could be a season ending injury. Yeah, it looked bad. Look bad.

They put them in, like you pointed out into an aircast pretty quickly and he had to get carted off the field. obviously did not return I guess we'll hear what that's all about that stinks for Mizzou because they were having a pretty at least fun season I don't know how good they are but it was a fun season they could have beaten Alabama with

Beau Pribula they might have to now move forward without him this year Vanderbilt won the game 1710 and I think like Diego Pavia completed 10 passes in the entire game so like a different type of way to win Vanderbilt's a very functional team a diverse team that can win in multiple ways

you know, they can get after the quarterback. I don't know if Vanderbilt has, like does Vanderbilt have the defensive line that can terrorize whoever is playing quarterback in Texas next week? I mean, we'll break that down this week as we go into that game, but like I think Vanderbilt will probably be favored

going into it, right? Maybe. I think it's going to be an interesting test for the linemakers, I think, because I would make Vandy probably like a two and a half point favorite. Yeah, like Texas won today, but I don't know, again, if I would be comfortable laying a bunch of points against Vanderbilt.

But, you know, that'll be an important game. What else, Andy, for next week? South Carolina will miss. I mean, the South Carolina have anything left. That's one I worry about South Carolina after losing that one, that they just like, nah, yeah, we're done here. Miami SMU could be fun. SMU lost to Wake Forest.

We mentioned that a little bit early on the, on the reaction show to Oregon, excuse me, to Ole Miss and Oklahoma. But what a win for Wake Forest. Their defense played great all day. It was 12, 10 for much of the game. Wake Forest had the ball inside the five-yard line, came away with zero points, and you're like, well, they're going to lose. And then on the last possession, they throw it, get the ball sort of in field goal range.

It was a long field goal. They spike it. They kick the field goal as time expires, and Wake Forest wins. So Wake Forest went over the Bed-MGM season total of four and a half. They've now won five. They should have won the Georgia Tech game because that guy was off sides. But huge win for Jake Dicker, Wakeforce. They are going to Florida State next week.

Mike Norville has his hands full because that's a tough team to have to play when everybody's mad at you. But SMU plays Miami in Dallas. That's a dangerous SMU team to have to deal with after. after they lost. Yeah, Virginia played, we haven't gotten to this game yet, but Virginia, North Carolina,

yeah, to overtime and North Carolina had a chance to win. They went for two in OT and didn't get it. So we're still in that. North Carolina's defense has come around. Like between the Virginia game and the Cal game last week, like North Carolina's defense is getting better.

Their offense is not. So they have a manageable schedule. Like they play Syracuse next week. They should be able, like maybe they, maybe they finally break through in an ACC game. next week. Yeah, but the important part two here is that Virginia Tech won and they're still unbeaten in the ACC.

And then Virginia plays Cal, which is kind of a spunky team who played a really entertaining overtime game on Friday night. They lost. Yeah, they lost that Virginia Tech. Yeah. I don't think Cal's that good, Ari. I think JKS is fun to watch. Yeah, not with a good tight end. But I don't think Cal's that great.

Well, not, if you run the read option at all, they're not very spunky. like everybody knew they were going to run read option and kairn drones was going to keep every play in the fourth quarter and they never stopped it it was like they had never practiced against the read option at all i'm trying to make games good and you're killing me oh i listen north carolina syracuse is on friday night that's going to be that's going to be a fun one just because it's like bill bell check on friday night it's fun Like, because people hate watch it. There's a lot going on.

Your guy, Fran Brown, you guy, Fran Brown's got to get off the Schneide. He's three and five, one and four in the SEC, or in the ACC. Whatever happens. It's clobbered by Georgia Tech. Whatever happens for North Carolina for the rest of the year, they'll always have that opening drive against TCU, though.

That's right. That's right. Georgia Tech, meanwhile, wagon. Wagon. Wagon. Wagon, eight, no. Are we, are you ready for good, good, clean old, fashion hate

clean old fashioned hate that's all it is clean old fashion hate with an 11 and 0 Georgia Tech in that game it's it's maybe possible yeah I think the big 12 getting two teams is like impossible because I think that the ACC is going to get to I can't imagine that the big 12 and ACC will both get to

we'll find out so Georgia Tech NC State at NC State next week NC State got obliterated by Pitt Mason Heinschel by the way that's one of the best moves of the year is Pitt moving to Winston Hinchel as their starting quarterback,

but they're at NC State, at BC. The Pitt Georgia Tech game is probably Georgia Tech's only chance at an ACC loss. Yeah. Man, yeah, Georgia Tech might be undefeated going into the Georgia game. What a world. What a world.

Just like we all drew it up at the beginning of the season. All right. I'm glad we. wrong about everything because I really enjoy watching it all unfold. We're potentially going to have some moves tomorrow. I don't think, I don't think we're due for a head coach firing tomorrow, unlike last weekend. So that's, that's probably good. We might see some tweaks to the LSU staff, but it's getting, it's getting dark in a few places. It's dark in a few places. it's dark in a few places where the coach isn't getting fired oh yeah that's true it's light in a lot of places though too

it's been a pretty crazy season and i love that we're all over the place and i love that every conference race is going to come down to a tiebreaker because that means that everybody's kind of in the mix still and you know have these recap shows as we move forward we're going to get more and more uh interesting because we're starting to get to like what is it the rubber meets the road time i mean what what are we two weeks away from the first playoff reveal we we are it is not this coming tuesday but the following tuesday so i believe right after we change our clocks uh one more one more game that we failed to mention in the big ten washington with a big win against illinois a big bounce back win after that lost to michigan so the huskies still kicking

not done yet huskies are kind of get so a little bit they're frisky one week or 42 points on the board and previous week they had seven. I know they were playing Michigan, but they probably should have been able to score a little bit more than seven, like two weeks ago. But yeah, we've got a six and two team who's lost to Ohio State in Michigan. I think that there are worst resumes out there. Yeah, so we'll see what happens with them the rest of the way,

but they are looking plucky again, and that's good. All right, we will preview the week's best games on Sunday. Thank you for watching. Be sure to subscribe to the on three. YouTube page. Be sure to subscribe to our podcast feed wherever you get your podcast in case you want to hear us but not have to look at us, which I understand completely. What are we previewing on Sunday? On the On Three Sports YouTube page, we'll be, we'll be hitting you with some preview videos for week 10. That is super depressing to say that it is

week 10, but it is indeed week 10 next week. I say Vanderbilt, Tennessee, for sure, Vanderbilt, Texas, for sure. Yeah, Oklahoma, Tennessee. Oklahoma, Tennessee. And I don't know, maybe just because we're going. Ohio State, Penn State, Ohio State, yeah. I know that it's not what it was supposed to be, but we will be there. Cocktail party?

That's a weird one. We'll see. Maybe not the cocktail party tomorrow. maybe the cocktail party later in the week. Yeah, yeah. We're going to have to, whatever it's going to be, it'll be interesting. We're going to have to figure that out,

but there's some stuff next week that we're going to get to. But I feel like we're going to be in one of the places to be next week. It might not be the game that it's supposed to be. Oh, producer river, dynamite drop in, USC Nebraska. Maybe that's it. Maybe that's it. Oh, yeah. I think that's it.

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