Andy & Ari On3 - DEBATING the top 100 Players in College Football entering 2025

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

As we are a few months out from the start of the regular season, it's time to rank our top 100 players entering this year. Our resident "Stat Cat" AKA Clark Brooks joins us to go through and breakdown some highlights on his list? We even go through Clark's methodology for compiling this list. Who did he leave off? Is his top ten right? Let us know in the chat (0:00-1:11) Intro(1:12-4:18) Clark Brooks joins(4:19-7:24) Clark's Methodology(7:25-9:11) #1 WR Jeremiah Smith, Ohio State(9:12-13:24) #2 EDGE Dylan Stewart, South Carolina(13:25-19:03) Quarterbacks: #5 Sam Leavitt, Arizona State(19:04-25:05) #10 QB Arch Manning, Texas(25:06-27:36) #8 QB Lanorris Sellers, South Carolina(27:37-32:04) #33 QB Cade Klubnik, Clemson(32:05-34:48) Clemson's Overall Outlook(34:49-38:19) #36 WR Cam Coleman, Auburn(38:20-41:53) #45 WR Ryan Wingo, Texas(41:54-44:53) #16 OT Spencer Fano, Utah(44:54-51:29) Which teams have the most on this list?(51:30-1:01:18) #83 QB Nico Iamaleava, UCLA(1:01:19-1:02:46) Conclusion Watch us LIVE, M-F at 9:30 am et! https://www.youtube.com/@On3sports Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Interested in partnering with the show? Email [e-mail] 

Welcome to Andy and Ari on three big day today. My favorite people joining us. Clark Brooks from on three joins us to talk about his top 100 players for the 2025 College football season list. And this is not just these are players. I kind of like because I watched a game or two last week. Clark has been diving deep into the stats deep into the scheme. He charts every game last week. Clark has been diving deep into the stats, deep into the scheme. He charts every game every week.

This is a guy who knows who makes an impact and why they make an impact. And I think some of the names on this list were surprising to me and I cannot wait to hear Clark break them down and explain. And also, I think I may need to go back through my way too early top 25. Now that I've looked at Clark's list and he sent me the the one that has a whole top 300 and decide what I got wrong.

I'm really excited that Clark is here today because as you know, my mantra in sports a lot of times is stats are stupid and then he comes in and is like actually really smart and uses stats in a way that is actually not deceptive because I hate when he doesn't use stupid stats. That's it. Let's get Clark here. Yeah, can we get up here Clark? It's good to see you guys. Good morning.

Good morning. Yeah, I mean some stats are stupid. Total tackles are stupid. They don't tell you what's You can make a tackle 30 y guess what? The team you'r set up for a scoring oppo means nothing. It means t

a tackle for a loss. So ye stupid, but I like to put and the things I look at. I do like to have a little for the SEC. I chart every offensive snap every single week and it really does help me put some context to these statistical things. But I agree not all stats are that stupid. There are some people though that use stats to show their point when their point is wrong. Yeah, I mean numbers can lie. It's a famous saying. I don't disagree. They absolutely

can be very disingenuous, particularly in the off season as a lot of people are trying to bolster their team's resumes entering this fall. Well, and also, it's just, it's which numbers you use. Like, if someone is spouting total defense at me, I already know I'm shutting down because this is a non-vulnerable I'm talking to. So total defense doesn't tell you anything. Exactly. It's like the tackles example earlier. It does not put the proper context into things. You could be playing a team that likes to milk the clock and hence you have a lot less opportunities to defend. So naturally your total volume is going to be a

lot less than someone who plays a lot more snap So yeah, the total defense stuff the total compiling counting stats very rarely Would you see me cite that type of things just because yeah, they can be very disingenuous Context is important in life and I appreciate you being here Clark and I'm appreciate you not disrespecting the math By using them in a disingenuous way. I can't stand it and a lot of times you see it during like college football playoff discourse of like these are the numbers and it's like well you're using those four numbers because they I mean it's it happened for everything it happens in all walks of life. So and I think I don't know if that's just a defense mechanism because I'm terrible at math to begin with. But yeah like I'm seeing a lot of statistics about the economy right now. And I feel like a lot of the statistics about the economy are like lacking proper context.

So, yeah, yeah. Let's break down the economy. No, no. Okay, Clark, we're going to talk about your top 100 list. If you want to read Clark's top 100 list, it is at on three. You've probably seen the top 10 graphic because it was floating around social media all of last week, making people very angry because people on social media don't usually like context. They just like to be mad about the thing they want to be mad about.

But yeah, the quarterbacks, like Sam Levin is the highest ranked quarterback and we don't get to him till number five. The next highest ranked quarterback is a guy who's a lightning rod. Man named Arch Manning. So why don't we start at quarterbacks most important position. Oh no, Annie, have them explain the, sorry.

I'm not trying to undercut you but. Methodology, let's go methodology first. Okay, right. So more some positions matter more than others like you guys hinted on some guys are younger than some returners. So they have a lot more value to give their teams and a lot more potential upside to take advantage just because of that. So if you are very keen, I you'll notice a lot of true sophomores are littered in our top seven.

Five of our top seven are true sophomores. Dynamo's, it's a fantastic class. So we really like the upside compared to some of these other guys returning. Like, Garrett Nutsmatter, nothing against him. He's probably going to be a first round pick. But he's in the middle of the pack there. And a lot of people say he's going to be a top five pick.

So it's just saying some of these young guys, they just play a little bit more impactful positions. And they're younger. And they have a little bit he's gonna be a top five pick. So it's just saying, some of these young guys, they just play a little bit more impactful positions, and they're younger, and they have a little bit more to offer over a longer period. Oh, so how much they have left in their career arc goes into it. It's not how much you feel their impact in a game on Saturday, it's what they are, their impact is on their program for the long term as well.

It's a little bit of column A and B there already. So yeah, it's your total high end ceiling, what you can give, how impactful you are today, and what are the odds you can reach that? Because we're using some of these statistics I could use. Traits that translate, metrics that matter. That's my little mantra that I like to go in week in, week out, and trying to see that matters. Because obviously you can't teach size, you can't teach speed. That stuff really does matter and really does drive a lot of next level scouts decision making, particularly at the top end of the draft. So like Chamar Stewart this past season,

he was a Titan built, but he wasn't necessarily the most efficient, impactful guy in a week in, week out basis, despite his very, very burly build. So- You mean because there was a more impactful guy at the same position on his team and export and on his team in his conference.

Landon Jackson and he was in my I was a princely guy like princely had one of the best princely man the Ellen yeah yeah yeah huh I'm talking about impactful guy but he just plays on such a talented defensive line it was easy you know to focus on Walter Nolan or Perkins getting his impact plays himself as an undersized dynamo. So like he's a perfect example. He's only six, one, two, 10. So Kerry- You're talking about Suntory and Perkins

who is on your list this year coming back. He's in the top 100, but a lot of people are prepping for the round one. I'm like, at that size? I'm not so certain no matter how impactful you are. I mean, we kind of had this discussion with Herb Perkins a few years ago. Well, he's a little bit more of an undersized dynamo.

Of course, he's gonna be moved to another position that hopefully finally clicks this season where he can be that red hot motor type of force off the edge there as an undersized threat. But yeah, you're trying to use a lot of different data points, how big they are, what does the eye test say? Well, do the eyes meet the metrics

and do those metrics actually matter? Because like I mentioned, is it just raw tackles? Is it just raw compiling statures? They efficient on a per snap basis where you can really bank on depending on who you're playing. Well, so before we get to the quarterbacks, then I think maybe the easiest way to illustrate this

is number one, because he's probably the easiest in terms of the eye test plus the the the advanced numbers. Jeremiah Smith, Ohio statewide receiver, there's no one who has watched Jeremiah Smith play who wouldn't say that's the best receiver on the field, that's the best receiver in the country. But Clark, explain exactly why he's an alien. Well, you don't see that in blend of size and speed often. Of course he's 6'3", 2'15". A lot of people in our industry, when being very optimistic,

are copying him to a baby Terrell Owens, but he's as big as Mike Williams. He's as big as Michael Thomas. He's got two inches on AJ Brown, who is a very burly playmaker at the next level. He's only 10 pounds lighter than DK Metcalf. And let's remind you, he's from the state of Florida that produces a lot of good athletes,

and he's a state champion in the 110 meter and 400 hurdles, proving he's got that burst, he's got that size, he's got that size. He's got that. So when you put all that stuff together, let's then go to the stats. He's the only power five returning receiver to have over a 3.0 yards per route run. So that is pure efficiency. How many yards are you getting on a per pass play basis? He's the only guy returning with a, a point three clip. Like I mentioned, so it just screams he's efficient. It screams he's an alien in terms of being a physical specimen

and just producing because you can look up the counting stats. Spoiler alert, they're very good. I love when you have the math to break down the same thing of like, yeah, I just watched him play for one set. But not everybody's that easy. That's the thing. Like, yeah, that just watched him play for one snap. But not everybody's that easy. That's the thing. Like, yeah, that's right. That's right. Because because I would say that Dylan Stewart, your number two, the edge from South Carolina is kind of the same thing. Like you watch him play a series and

you're like, Yep, that guy's really good. That's gonna be a first round draft pick. Uh huh. I mean, we're talking about the size thing. So a lot only. Okay, let's just put it this way of the Top 15 impact edges that I have today in the middle of March. So or excuse me middle of May gosh Where's my head? um Only five of them are at least six five

So that's excluding people like Colin Simmons like Perkins like we mentioned earlier Our Mason Thomas David Bailey all these guys are being excluded. Not this guy, he's 6'6, 250. He has the third best returning pass rush grade against true pass set. So that's excluding quick game, it's excluding RPOs, it's looking at the good, nice, meaty, true drop back pack patterns that you know.

Pass rush. Let me translate true drop back patterns that you know. Let me translate true pass set for the lay person. So true pass set is like what you'd see in 90s NFL when the quarterback drops back and you see that cup form around him when the offensive linemen are either in a two point stance or they're popping up and then they're shuffling backward essentially. What you're talking about with quick game or with an RPO is they're going

to fire out like they're running a run play to simulate to the defense that they're running a run play. So this is I know that you're coming. I'm going to do the best I can to stop you from coming using the best techniques I can use to stop you. And either they're not very good at stopping. No, third best grade of all the returners is insane. So you like to think of the first game, the old dominion game where the offense, South Carolina's offense was not necessarily, let's just say clicking. And the defense made some plays that really altered that ball game. And of course, that gave them a lot of momentum and

a lot of confidence having the Kentucky. And it got their season going sideways immediately wrecking them. I mean, if you go back and watch that game, Brock Vandergrift hardly had any time to operate and UK basically had to go five yard runs. And then that was a wrap because they could not keep up with the explosiveness of South Carolina, but he can alter ball games. Of course, we just watched the Super Bowl and we saw how a four man rush was able to alter that ball game. When you can win with that advantage and having a guys in coverage, it makes a quarterback's day hell. So you match that excellent production with the impact rate of 14.7.

So an impact rate. Sorry for the metrics that matter, but let's define them real quick. Impact plays, that is a total combination of havoc plays, which are basically all negative things that can go wrong for an offense. So those are pressures, sacks, force fumbles, tackles for a loss, batted balls, interceptions, stuff like that.

And then you add in defensive stops, which are basically a tackle where the offense situationally does not gain an advantage. So these are short yards gains, stopping, preventing your opponent from getting manageable downs and distances. 14.7 impact play, it's one of the top 30 returning ones. And by volume, he's in the top 30 as well. So he is doing it efficiently.

He's doing it by volume and in terms of total pressures, which is part of that impact calculation, third most of returners, which really does reflect that true pass rush win grade that PFF has for him. So truly impactful. He's got the size and yeah, we're going to have at least two more years of him dominating the SEC. When Clark tells you all the reasons why somebody's ranked in the top 10, will you just put the picture of Dylan Stewart

like flexing up again? And I'll give you my formula. Okay. I mean, look at that. Look at that man. He has the greatest aesthetics. Look at that guy's arms. His arms are probably longer than my thighs. And the crazy part of that is or is by probably his junior year, he's playing at 265 270 in the NFL. He's playing at 265 270. It's only 250 last year. So, yeah, he's going to keep putting on mass to that

excellent frame of this. Yeah. Yeah, it's a scary, scary thought. All right, let's talk QBs because you got Sam Levitt as your highest ranked QB at number five overall. You got Arch as the next highest at 10th, which I think you know, you mentioned. Lenora Sellers is there too. Don't forget. Oh, I'm sorry. Lenora Sellers is uh, oh, how can I, Lenora Sellers is number eight. Especially if you're talking about a game cock, Andy, come on.

I well, and, and this is another thing. Like I, I texted you about this. I started going through and seeing how many of these guys are on how I'm on on which teams, like, you know, what are the biggest concentrations of them? I'm probably gonna write a column re-examining my post-spring top 25 through this lens because I think I made some mistakes so But you but sure but the reason I have South Carolina as high as I do is Because they have players like Dylan Stewart Lenora Sellers, but let's talk QB's Sam Levitt Took Arizona State to the the Big 12 title last year took him to the playoff and nearly beat Texas in the Peach Bowl

What is it about him that puts him above the other QBs in the country? Well, I'll cut to the chase. I'm a sucker for quarterbacks who are very accurate downfield, and homeboy with very accurate downfield. So, in my impact study, where I do it every summer, and it really does help me cut through the clutter and really determine who's a really good passer or who's a really good operator

in their scheme. I chart all the top returning quarterbacks against their six or seven hardest opponents from the previous season. Again, we're cutting out the cupcakes for not looking at any of the snaps against the poop states. They can really skew the statistics and really create some of this deception and the disingenuousness that we just hate Ari, you know, we don't like that type of stuff influencing our decisions, especially with the most important position. So in those games against his hardest opponents, which was a top 10 hardest slate, he had one, he was one of two quarterbacks with an above average downfield accuracy percentage. So a perfectly placed pass beyond 10 yards downfield

with an above average makeup targeting those areas of the field. So it's him and Dari Mensah, end of list. They're the only people with that above makeup and downfield accuracy. So when you're breaking that out against his hardest opponents, when you're adding other things that people might like, well,

it's kind of in the modern desire of a quarterback to be a little bit of a creator, a scramble threat. Well, he averaged almost 10 yards per scramble on a 69, very nice, success rate in those instances against his hardest opponent. So, and when he, when he erased twice as many sacks as those he's taken, he was the only quarterback in my impact sample to be top three in raw accuracy percentage, depth adjusted accuracy percentage, and interceptable pass rate. He avoids mistakes, he offers potency, and he's got some juice with his legs.

The only thing against him, he's not 6'4". He's only an average of about 6'2". But guess what? Aaron Rodgers was 6'2", and he's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen in my life. So Charles Powers, he mocks him to a Bo Nix+, which, you know, that can create some negative connotations because some people think Bo Nix

and get that, you know that can create some negative consultations because some people think Bo Nix and get that you know. Listen if you can get Bo Nix last year at Oregon production nobody's complaining right? Bo Nix year one in the NFL he was pretty good last year. Yes throwing short and taking with the defense Gibson that was not Sam Levin in my eyes I think he was a little bit I mean he was downfield. He's really productive off of play action. Almost a quarter of his, in these impact samples games, were 20 yards or more, and he didn't have a single interceptable pass in that context. And this wasn't just flash play action that you see some

from some schemes, like Colorado, where you're in the shotgun and you're just, you know, keeping your eyes up and doing a little flesh smash. You're turning your back to the defense, you have to locate your guy and drive the ball downfield. He was so good at doing that. It wasn't just that awesome run game that got them to the playoffs.

His arm was very close. I was gonna ask though, like, so he's not putting it into Kam Skataboo's belly on those play actions anymore. Does the fact that the defense is not having to worry about Cam Scataboos much maybe change things for Sam? There is some gravity argument, but they are bringing in a very, I think a very notable transfer from army who could potentially be that. Oh gosh, we got to stop this type of guy, particularly if you're an offense

that likes to establish it. It's just naturally going to have to be something for the defense to take away from the beginning of the game, and let, I wouldn't necessarily say lean them in as the game goes along, progressive men as the game goes along. Cause to me, he is that type of guy who can be that tractor, driving the bus for this

offense and getting them back where they were last year as a top four seat. When we were we talked about Sam Levitt and we show certain Arizona State uniform combinations, I get angry. Because it's just like, what are we doing? So can I just put Sparky on the helmet, like weird off orange maroon gold type blend? Like, what are we doing we doing like it might look nice on like a European car but it's not your uniform. Yeah, that shade of red that purple

magenta. It just looks odd especially when people start to sweat through it. It just gets a really maroon and gold guys. Let's not overthink it. Right. Andy I got to cut through it. I mean we made it 19 minutes into this podcast and I haven't been able to say his name. I got into cut through it. I mean, we made it 19 minutes into this podcast and I haven't been able to say his name. Um, I got into a pretty spirited debate online and on this podcast about how we should be viewing Arch Manning. Um, he's played limited, but I think there's a sample size there of some starts in SEC play. What is the actual realistic, non-hype view of who he is as a player?

He's got traits that translate. He can layer throws. He's very calm in the pocket. Yes, he did take some sacks last year. I think that's a sign of inexperience, but he's got that down-to-it accuracy that I crave. He's not throwing the ball in the harm's way. He can make stuff happen with his legs. Like, all these things you would kind of want with how the quarterback position is going, unlike his uncles, he's not having to be, you know,

anchored in the pocket and just be a pure on time decision maker. He can create, he can add some potency to an already scary offense with a high ceiling. So I saw JD Pickell, you know, he said yesterday, all he has to be is like a third slide guy in a group project. You don't really have to ask him that much.

I disagree because Texas had that situation each of the last two years and they did not get where they wanted to go with that title. So he actually has that capability to get them to that next echelon with his playmaking, with his accuracy, and he doesn't just fall to crap when he's pressured. How concerned are you with limited sample size here?

Oh yeah that's definitely something to hammer him on. That's one of the reasons I was kind of lower on Connor Wegman this time last year. He didn't play anybody in the top 35 each of his first few years at A&M and while Arch's slate is a little bit more difficult, yeah, it's only 90 snaps. And in those 90 snaps though, Andy, he's top four in the SEC in accuracy, turnover worthy play rate, explosive pass rate,

first down touchdown rate. Only one other returner has a better adjusted net passing yards per attempt that takes him to sacks and scrambles and throwing the ball into harm's way. So defender breakup rate. So those are the types of things that, you know, it's never good to put the ball near defenders and he's already good at that.

So he's just basically really molded well. And yes, he could all go wrong. Don't get me, don't question me. We're definitely being optimistic on what he has shown us. But because of how he plays for one of the best play college in the game, he's gonna be surrounded by a lot of good talent. I just think he has the goods.

I just really do. I just really do. Even if his last name was not Manning, I would be really optimistic. What he brought to this office this upcoming season, cause that really gets lost in the shuffle. If his name, if his last name was Manning, half of these people would not be, you know, on their knees. Well, that's what Ari sent Ari.

One of our friends tweeted at him the other day and it was very funny And it said basically if his last name wasn't Manning he'd still be a 6-4 tank with sprinter speed Yes, sir. Yeah by really good teammates coached by a really good play call I think that he's hurt by his last name being Manning. That's my take. I'm gonna die on that hill. I think that name I think I think so. I think that the fact that his last name is Manning? That's my take. I'm gonna die on that Hill. I think that's the name. I think I think so. I think that the fact that the last name is Manning makes people angry at the hype and they are more easily able to discount how good he is

because then they can just brush it off as hype. I mean, name your example. I mean, of course, Ronnie James being the most recent, but like there's just a stigma to being a great one's relative son, you know, and he just has that going against him. But I really do think that if his last name is not Manning, he would be right where he would be today in our top. But Brawny James does not have better measurables than LeBron.

And I would argue that Arch has better measurables than either uncle at this stage of his career. Just because of the running ability that Peyton and Eli didn't have. We don't know yet if he has the processing and the accuracy and all of that. If he does, then we're talking about something pretty special. Yeah. And of course, that's an intangible thing that we just can't... Someone like me, I just cannot measure. I'm not in those weekly meetings. So I just have to go with what I see on the on-field decision making the tape where he

chooses to place passes, how he chooses to place passes, you know, it's not just a one speed throw or throwing fastballs every single time. Not that that doesn't work for some people, but you know, he has a very wide range array of passes to deliver balls and I'm just super excited to see what he can do this fall. Because these players are all in the top 10 for the most part are very young. Yeah. There is a misconception probably from people who are mad at you that like you're not also measuring how good he's going to be for Texas this coming year. You're measuring his impact on the program in his and the following year if he returns and things like that. The age. Absolutely. What if he comes back? No, what if he comes back and he's the number one

overall player? We're well positioned for that to happen, by the way. So yeah, he's not going to have to jump a hundred spots just because he decides to return. Like we recognize it's a lot with these young guys. We recognize that they're going to be future first round picks. We're not going to mess around, F around and find out. We're just gonna go ahead and do it. There's no point waiting, because like we can just see it guys. Like these, it's a very, very special class. And particularly with all these young guys,

we're just now coming out of the COVID era where we had all of these six year guys hang around. Dylan Gabriel, God bless. He was almost gonna pass for more yards than anyone in college football history, just because he kept hanging around. So that's not gonna be the case anymore moving forward. It's gonna be a youth movement and we're not gonna wait

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That's what we're here for. So we'll see you on YouTube. Now, Clark, we talked about Arch, what he can do. Couple spots ahead of him, you got Lenora Sellers, who also more of an athletic freak. Bigger sample size, also in the SEC, plays a similar schedule. How do these two compare?

Because I think these, we've talked about these two as potential Heisman candidates, but how do those two compare? Well, I think Lenore Sellers is still a little more prudent of a passer, and what do I mean by that? He is not gonna necessarily target a throw unless he is very sure he can complete it. So yes, that does help his raw accuracy

and his downfield stuff shine, his catchability shine, because he's not making these risky throws because he knows he can complete them. But at the same time, holding the ball and extra beat or so invites pressure. And he took a lot of sacks and he erased a lot of sacks, and he erased a lot of sacks. But he still moved backward quite often. I still believe, if my memory is still not too foggy,

that South Carolina was one of the best offenses in the SEC moving backwards last year. And that has been a consistent trait under Shane Beamer, no matter who has been calling plays. So that stuff needs to be rectified. But when you're looking at everything else, yeah, the decision making is pretty good. Again, he's not throwing the ball in the harm's way.

He can erase sacks. He can add a lot of juice with his legs. I mean, just think of the Clemson game and that game winning play. Oh my gosh, you can bottle that game up into an ether. I would sniff that every morning to get out of bed. Boy, that just gets me going. It's just insane.

These are things you cannot teach. You can teach him to be a little bit more on time passer. You can teach him maybe okay, in this certain leverage situation, maybe place the ball here for a little bit more of a maximal output, what have you, that stuff can be corrected. You cannot teach his high end athleticism, his strength. And of course, if he's gonna keep I don't know if he's gonna be be back to rexpect, but for the brand, I hope he does because that's the type of stuff that like, college football just has this flavor that NFL doesn't. And I just really like that color, that energy,

that passion that he can bring from a neutral observer like me for a South Carolina game cock. I mean, it's just really special stuff. So I really like all of his physical traits. I think he's in a good position despite not necessarily being surrounded by the best supporting cast. And that really does help his case for the next level, but maybe not, let's just say for South Carolina's chances for making the playoff this year, despite, you know,

I want to bring this, this QB conversation full, full circle. Cause we were talking about Arch Manning in Austin and we're talking about Lenora Sellers in Columbia. So let's talk about a guy from Austin who plays in South Carolina and that's Cade Kluvnik who you are not as big of a believer in as I am. I am Mr. Cade Kluvnik bandwagon jumper. I may be driving the Cade Kluv Van Wagon, but you've got him down at number 33. So what, what am I missing here? For the unobserved 33, that is one spot outside of our impact five stars, meaning I don't think he's going to be a first round quarterback. And while I may have whispered that part, I'm going to scream this one. Second straight impact study.

He has had a negative interstable to explosive pass ratio. That matters. He throws into harm's way a lot. Now some of that is because of Clemson's offense. It is very short oriented, slant spots, short passing game staples. That's gonna really invite the defense to play closer to the line of scrimmage and reduce the space your guys have to operate. So when you're constantly doing that, again, he's a 6'2 guy. He's not immune from batted balls that constantly can be intercepted, whether his fault or his own.

It's just a side effect to his operation. And while he may have been targeting deep downfield more than the average passer, again, he was not delivering the explosives that you want. And yeah, you can say, yeah, he has good fluidity, he was not delivering the explosives that you want. And yeah, you can say, yeah, he has good fluidity, he has good mechanics, he throws a catchable ball, he's poised versus pressure against his hardest opponents.

He only had a 3.7 yards for attempt as a design rusher with a higher negative run rate than explosive run rate. So that runs over 10 yards downfield. And he took 15 sacks compared to erasing 14. That's, uh, that's just not, that's a no for me, dog. Hey, they just figured out how that he can run. Get either race in more sacks this year. Just wait. Promise. All right. All right. All right. I mean, the things that he does have into it, he played one of the hardest samples last year.

So yeah, he wasn't beating up bad defenses. He was tested plenty. And of course the main driver, I could be eating a big old pie, a big old slice of wrong pie, if I could say that correctly, was that second half against Texas. That's as impressive as a performance

as any passer had last season. If he does that, yeah, he's a top five pick. I just have seen a lot more examples of him being disappointing than him being dominant. Sorry, not sorry. Yeah, I think that it's interesting and the most difficult thing that I think would probably go into what you do is how much do you weigh games later in the season as in relation to the games at the beginning of the year

and do you buy into the fact that somebody can unlock a portion of their game or gain a confidence or do something better, longer that carries over into the season that doesn't necessarily weigh as much as maybe their opener because they played a good opener last year. Absolutely. And of course, like not every schedule is the same.

Some people have a very front loaded schedule where they get all those hard opponents when it's nice and sunny outside and they don't have to play them in the muck and vice versa. Well, I would like to say that there's a nice, you know, clear cut operation there. It's just not every sample is the same. And you kind of have to guess me because, you know, not every bowl game is the same, especially in this day and age. Some guys are sitting key starters or playing underclassmen. So their overall rating at the end of the season

isn't quite reflective of the team they're actually playing. And of course, K Clubnik last year, I mean, if you want to talk about someone who did not necessarily end the season well, he threw a lot of sats, he threw a lot, he took a lot of sacks, he threw a lot of interceptables in those last two games against SEC people who didn't necessarily Qualify for his impact study last year. So yeah, there's this isn't a perfect science by any means You know someone could have to have an absolute dud against a really bad defense that you know

It's just not taking into account because they didn't I don't do them as a worthwhile game to study So yeah, not every exact not everyone slate is cookie cutter. you can't apply it all the same. So it's you just have to take in a lot of factors. Okay, did they have a key starter available? What was the weather like? How was the team playing? Was there a key injury stuff like that? But yeah, ideally in a perfect world, you would put more weight into those more recent games, because they were the most recent thing we seen, of course, that's going to be more predictive than something

that was, you know, so the most recent thing that we saw with him, and that's kind of what's driven me. Andy and I, I think we're both kind of driving the Club Nick bus this off season of like, that second half of the Texas game is kind of like the last taste of going into the off season of like, if that's who he is. I mean, like, I actually think that I mean, I just put Clemson in my national title game. So you're scaring me. It's Club Nick versus Arch in Ari's national title game. Let's go. Clemson's loaded and it doesn't have to be, they don't have to get that far without,

if him, it's a little bit of a disappointment. That defensive line, probably one of the best in college football, two really good linebackers. The secondary is really set up for success. So Tyler's about, I mean, I bet Tyler's been eating a lot of wrong pie the last couple of years, as far as dabba was concerned. But yeah, club Nick, I mean, if he is that version of himself, Clemson going undefeated Clemson's probably winning the national title if that happens. That's the version of 20 to one everybody there 20 to one to win. Yeah.

If you're as optimistic as Andy and Ari that second half, smash that sucker today before the odds go down. My mine wasn't nine and a half over under most of the books like Hey, easy over. He Okay, I hate to cut with you know, a wide brush here paint with a wide wide brush here. But usually in my offseason impact studies, as I've mentioned the ACC quarterbacks, thank God it's so frickin easy, man. Um, I don't think it's, it's really understood generally speaking club. Nick is the exception, how tissue

paper tissue papery consistently the ACC secondaries are of course, quarterback play is very correlated to success. I mean, you think last year at Pittsburgh, Eli Holstein had terrible accuracy stats, but it didn't matter because he was playing against only two top 35 defenses in his seven game sample. I mean, it's easy to beat expectation when that's the case week in and week out. So knowing Kluvnik and knowing, you know, I'm kind of being small on him, but let's not forget he's still a top 35 player in college football. It's not like I think he sucks. It's just I just don't like him as much compared to other people. So I think Clemson over nine

and a half is a major buy. Even if they have a harder than average ACC slate, they're just super talented. And again, that defensive line that that defense I mean no one in the conference is gonna have something close to that and of course that's gonna be one of the best units nationally Yeah, I just think that I'm very optimistic in Clemson even if I'm not the you know, the biggest lover of their quarterback Hey club Nick, by the way plus plus nine hundred to win the Heisman. Because like Clark said, not good enough. It doesn't matter how much Clark loves him. If he's playing it's easy competition,

he's gonna compile some massive stats. And we all know that the Heisman electorate not known for its deep dives into the advanced stats. So just put that right there. I mean, it's only plus, it's only like, I think like arch is. Plus 700 for arch right now. Yeah, so it's like the discrepancy there because you get the last name boost with him too.

Andy, can I ask him some about some guys that I thought were lower now that we're all kind of on that that are we still sticking with? Yeah, no, no, go for it. There's one player that I am obsessed with and two players I'm obsessed with And they're right next to each other in the rankings. D'Angelo Pons, the corner from Indiana is one of them, but I understand why, because he's small. I don't even need to go down that road. But Cam Coleman to me is a freak of nature. And part of-

Auburn receiver Cam Coleman for those who don't know. Yeah, Auburn receiver Cam Coleman. And part of the reason why I'm drinking Auburn Kool-Aid right now. I'm obsessed with him and I kind of feel like this year he's going to come out of the relative obscurity of being an Auburn receiver with terrible quarterback play and like join Ryan Williams and Jeremiah Smith on the mantle of true sophomore receivers are going to be awesome and I was a little bit surprised to see that he was 36th on your list. Is that

I mean it's probably it's still pretty good ranking in top thirty-six, but I just I think he's going to be a stud. I don't know. Am I off? Um it's just some of the environment you mentioned. I'm not the biggest supporter of Jackson Arnold. He's one of the worst and least desirable quarterback to target beyond ten yards downfield in the SEC last year. Where does Kim Coleman do a lot of his damage along the left sideline deep down field? That's the part is part.

It's just like, I don't know. There's a chicken egg garment he had here about Jackson Arnold. Oh my gosh, what if I said even in clean drop backs without play actions inside the pocket, he was one of the least accurate passers throwing down field within the SEC. Did he have any clean drop?

Yeah, he did. He did. He did? He did, he did. But you also have to recognize he brought on some pressures by not getting rid of the ball fast enough. He was not someone who was a quick decision maker to say the least. So I feel like you, it's like you putting me into the ring with Mike Tyson and saying,

I didn't get my gloves up fast enough. It's like, what do you want? Oh, I don't think it was that extreme. I don't think it was actually, even though yes, it was opposite line. Yeah. That is one of the poster trials to be very wary of building your offensive line in the portal through one year stop gaps. Be very wary of that. That is a position you really need people to gel

and get some time to work together. And obviously they had injuries. You throw that on top of everything. Oh gosh. But yeah, I'm not. That was a thing like who did he have to throw to with the five best receivers hurt most of the season. That's what I'm curious about when he has Cam

Coleman and Eric Singleton Jr. And a solid say Auburn's offensive line is great, but I'd say it's it's pretty it's decent, which is for Auburn better than what we're used to. It is better, but this is still a very high RPO offense. It is still an offense that, you know, I would not say has the most sophisticated drop back passing game, true passing game, but he is someone who can do damage one-on-one

along that side of the left sideline. He is their true ex receiver. Yes, he had a pretty, there was a sizable drought across his freshman profile, but he really did come on at the end of the year. Shout out Ari. Yeah, more weight at the end of the year. He's trending upward. And yeah, that is one of the reasons why I'm high on him. There's a lot of opportunities to move up in this wide receiver rankings. It's just Auburn's

offense. I'm not the biggest fan schematically. I'm not the biggest fan of the quarterback, despite his own individual ability to be impactful. Because if he keeps, you know, being targeted in the past is uncatchable. It doesn't matter how impactful it is doesn't matter how athletic he is. He's just being undercut by his own team. And unfortunately, that's why I have him a little bit lower and just outside that five star range right now.

And then another one, another one. One more Andy, then I'll let you go. Go for it. I got one too. Ryan Wingo is yeah, that's lower. And he's somebody I'm going to do a story and I just realized this by looking at your list and I'm going to like steal your stuff because that's what I do. I'm a leech of 10 players I'm excited to watch that nobody's talking

about for whatever reason. And like I don't know if you think I'm off base on this but there are like Ryan Wingo is like just in relative obscurity when I actually think he's going to be a badass when he's teamed with Arch this year. Like I think the Texas is gonna win the national title this year. And part of the reason why Ari is the biggest fan of the the class of 2024 receivers, the class of 2024 receivers, I think in 10 years, we'll look back and say that's the most ridiculous class of receivers

I've ever seen. And I think part of the reason why is because the greatest receiver like, I feel like if God himself were to make a receiver for the NFL, he couldn't have done a better job than Jeremiah Smith. Like, I don't know. So he's going to carry the load on that. But when you think about like the guys who came up with him, Ryan Williams, cam Coleman, Ryan Wingo.

Yeah. It, but, but to, to, to Ari's point, I do feel like Wingo does not get a lot of discussion even when we're talking about what Texas brings back. And I do find that a little curious. I really do. Texas has been in the spotlight. They're getting a lot of buzz. I mean, particularly the offense, it always gets buzz. I mean, even last off season, they brought in three really good transfers in Bond, Bolden, and Golden, almost the blazer laser thing, like from Dodgeball, with their receivers. I mean, it's amazing how they could have pulled that off with their names and that they were all very good impactful receivers.

And Wingo, as a true freshman, sees targets from them. And I just really am a little, you know, I wouldn't say perturbed. I'm not all the way there. I'm not all the way disturbed, but I am a little annoyed why people aren't talking about him more. Yes, he left some plays on the field.

I just think that's some inexperienced stuff, but you're talking about his play color, it's gonna know how to get him open. He's gonna have a very accurate passer getting him the ball. He's not necessarily gonna have to do a whole lot of heavy lifting. We're like, okay, we've got to take away Wingo the entire game. No, he's going to find his wins.

He's going to find his openings because he's going to be flanked by some more other talented pass catchers. Of course, Zach Jack injuries, another impact guy who just came to this spring portal period at tight end. So he's going to take some safety's attention off of him, you know, and dredging towards more middle of the field where he can be a dynamo on the outside the numbers. But yeah, I'm just as shocked as you are while he's not talked about more because he has all the makings

of a playmaker. And again, like a lot of these guys, we have at least two more years of him. So I want to go to the guys who there are no counting stats for the offensive lineman. Your top rated offensive lineman. Yeah, sacks allowed. Yeah, I know. I know. The sat sacks allowed you know, it's always the quarterback quarterback staff, quarterback staff. Exactly. So there are there's a say there are some competitors in the football college football space that send out sacks aloud when they do the offensive line stuff. And every time I think to myself, that's a quarterback step. That's a quarterback step. Yeah, you don't know the blocking scheme. You don't know how the protection got adjusted. You don't know who messed up. You don't know.

I didn't miss a block. You didn't know that. I walked into it. Quinn Ubers held the ball for five seconds and stripped of his own feet. That's a sack on me, what? I mean, come on. I mean, Kelvin Banks, that happened to Kelvin Banks last year, by the way.

That wasn't just a random example. Poor Kelvin Banks. But he still got picked in the first round. I don't think the- Spencer Fadot, Utah right tackle. He is your highest ranked offensive tackle. Yeah. I am very high on Utah this year

because I like Devin Dampier but more importantly, I feel like Utah was recruited to win the Pac-12 in the trenches. They now play in an easier league than the Pac-12 but with Pac-12 champion quality trench play and Spencer Frenneau is probably the prime example of that. Okay, we talked talked about like aliens archetypes, you know, whatever you want to write tackle mauler. You got one here, man. He's the top returning PFF run blocker by three points and he's top 10 and clean percentage. So disallowing pressures per pass opportunity among powerful tackles. He just checks boxes.

If he played left tackle, I think there would be a lot more consensus on him being OT1. Of course, we just had a lot of very talented tackles get drafted. So the debate is wide open on who you want to consider as OT1. But talk about an aesthetically pleasing guy. He's a mauler. He just takes guys to the ground. He's a very nice anchor. He's well-rounded. He's got that size.

I just think he just, uh, I think he's the more trustable, um, type of option at this point in time. Now, a lot of people want to point to Proctor or Maialga, former five star tackles playing for prestigious, um, programs, but I just think the way he played last year, end of the season strong, trending up, he's going to be a big part of why Utah is my big 12 runner-up this season to Arizona State. Now, they very well could run right through Arizona State because of this offensive line, but they're going to be right there into the discussion in a wide open conference. Then like four teams had the same over under

like eight and a half, like it's anyone's conference. So if you're gonna bank on any team, lean offensive line. There are four eight and a halfs and five seven and a halfs in the big 12. Wide open, wide open. So why not bank on a great offensive line, very fun guy with the ball in his hands in Devon Dampier. Might not be the best passer, or played the hardest opponents last year.

So there is some skepticism from my end, but he's going to be behind some behemoths that can open up some space for him to do a lot of damage. And Spencer Frineau, it's interesting because you mentioned, you know, like Kaden Crocker, who was a blue chip recruit. But Spencer Frineno was also a very highly rated recruit. Everybody wanted him. He stayed home and played with his brother. His brother was already playing for Utah. So there's a little bit more to it.

He's probably a lot of the same raw material as those other guys in terms of quality. So I am fascinated by this dynamic, like you just said and I'm I don't know about you Clark. I'm a good offensive lines travel. I'm high on Notre Dame this year because when you have two offensive linemen who started the national championship game who cannot start next year because you're that deep. That's probably good and you're very good despite your starting

center leaving town. I mean, Pat Coogan's a really good center. Their starting center got hurt last year. Oh, but yes. Pat Coogan replaced him and now he's back. But yes, but I'm telling you, as far as a starter last year, Pat Coogan was a, in our interest, he finishes as a top 15

interior office of Lyman. He's now leaving town and you're not even sweating it. Nothing, not even blanking, who cares? Like that, I mean, not a lot of places could deal with that, Andy. That's why I'm saying that. Now, Ashton Craig coming back is the reason Pat Coogan had to leave.

And then, like, it's so crazy, because Anthony Knapp took over at left tackle after Sharps, Jagasaw got hurt Jagasaw is obviously healthy now They also have to figure out where they're gonna play Gwerby Lambert and so like Anthony Knapp's probably a guard That's probably why Rocco Spindler is at at Nebraska now. So like it is It's wild, but I love that and I want to ask about that You know that when we get these numbers of impact players,

because I did sort them, your list by team. And I thought it was interesting because like there's five Indiana players in the top 100. There's six Florida players in the top 100. There's only two Georgia players in the top 100. And that I'm trying to figure out, is that a sign of we've got some teams underrated and overrated or like with the Georgia players, I'm curious, is it a sign of

there's some studs who really haven't got a chance to play yet. So we just don't know. Yeah, it's a lot more uncertainty with Georgia. They lost a lot of people. Indiana, they are the remnants, you the remnants of having a very good portal class in their first season, bringing a lot of people from James Madison. Elijah Sarat, Mikhail Kamara, and Ponds, we mentioned earlier, all came over. They're all going to be top 10 players at their position.

So they are really well positioned to have a front loaded top heavy roster. You bring in Fernando Mendoza from Cal, who Nate Tice particularly enjoys this time of season, he's one of these six four fluid guys, accurate decision maker. And who plays in a very, let's say quarterback friendly scheme where he should be a very risk adverse and set up to maximize what is presented him. So when you have all that things going your in your corner, it's really, uh, they're really easy dark horse to overlook because, you know,

there's a lot of good teams in the big 10, you know, Oregon, Ohio state, they're going to drive the bus. Penn state is going to be right there. Uh, Nebraska is seeing what they're going to do and Matt rules third year. If Minnesota is going to be a little sneaky, can Michigan state get out of the, thatmire of mediocrity now that Aiden Childs looks to have some chops as a true pocket passion this past season? So it's going to be harder for them for sure, but in terms of like true decision, true impact players at these positions, they just simply have them and you can't deny them. Even though it might be a little bit higher on their offensive lineman than some others. I just really do like how they have I mean look a corner receiver edge rusher quarterback these are where these guys play they're not this all interior offensive lineman or linebackers or

positions like that like these are positions that can kill drives determine ball games and get you W's which is what it's all about. Andy, I don't mean to put you on the spot here, but do you have the numbers that you compiled, you know, in front of you? I would just like to know some of the... You mean when I resorted Clark's spreadsheet? Yes, I did, when I sorted by school.

Alabama has five. Clemson has one, two, three, four, five. Florida has six. As I said, Indiana has five. Ohio State has three, which I think that, Clark, that is the question I mentioned about Georgia earlier, because Georgia has two. Like Georgia and Ohio State, obviously,

the two best recruiting programs in the country over the past five years, how much of that is there's young guys who were great recruits who we just haven't seen on the field yet? Hey, I am very much a wait and see type of person when it comes to putting these blue chips into these impact ratings. So again, that should really speak to the volume why I have five in the top seven because they were that good as true freshmen. If a true freshman can come in and be that impactful, I don't have any qualms pushing them up. But until I see it, until I can make a good argument for it, I'm in no hurry.

There's a lot of good football players out there that need some recognition. So yeah, you may be a four star, you might be in prime position to produce and make a name of yourself. But for an off season list, come on now we're all about, I'm trying to figure out, should I be worried about whether George is going to be good again this year? I would not, I would not spend it too much, particularly if it's just the top 100 again, these are, it's,

it's a meritocracy thing. We haven't seen a lot of what George's new pass rush is going to look like, that new D line. How I know we got Christian Miller on there and he's gonna be a very key cog. But what's the rest of the unit gonna look like? Is Daylen Everett gonna live up to that pedigree he had this time last year? How is that offensive line going to address? Ernest Green did not have the smooth this fall last year.

Is he gonna rebound and potentially be, you know, a second late first round pick with his size and ability to block on the blind side? It all remains to be seen. But based on what we saw this past season, sorry, Georgia, only two sorry Ohio State, only three. You guys just lost so much. I mean, you guys want to say had two of the top three on the list. So that's probably okay. I think that's fine. But if you want to complain or if you want to boast about the number of draft picks you have every April, be prepared to maybe not have as many top 100 returners for the upcoming fall every single year. It's so high. It would have been loaded in this Ohio State would have been loaded in this last year. Oh, they were loaded in this last year. They had the most players.

I can tell you that off top of my head. I knew they were. I knew they had the most. And this year, Texas has seven. They have the most. Oh, what are you trying to say, Andy? What I did on the show yesterday. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

All right, before we let you go, Clark, there's one guy we got gotta talk about on your list because let's face it. Is it Arch Manning again? Well, as much as Arch Manning does numbers, nobody does numbers like this guy. This guy has carried us through the off season. But a lot of it has been talk about him off the field

and talk about the big picture with him, what it all means. I'm less interested in what it all means with Nico Iamaleava than I am with. Can he play? What does Nico bring to UCLA? Was Tennessee wise to let him walk? What are the numbers and the film study? Because you take a deep dive on quarterbacks

every off season as well. So you've already studied him very closely. What does that tell you about Nico? Well, it's going to be a nuanced take. Sorry. I know I've been kind of fiery today. This one's going to be a little bit more ride in the fence. But I do believe he has a top 10 arm talent.

In a vacuum, you give a top 10 arm talent $4 million to play football for you. If Texas Tech is going to give their starting basketball center that much money, I think the starting SEC quarterback with top 10 arm talent merits that. That said, there's a lot of tangential things that worries, that kind of sours his output. There's a little bit of concern statistically. Of course, our eyes told us he was not an accurate downfield passer last year. He had the SEC's highest uncageable pass rate on targets beyond 20 yards downfield, and he targeted downfield more often than the average passer.

So those throws just mattered more to Tennessee's operation. Of course, Tennessee's offense, Andy, we have talked about this a lot. It does not do the best job setting up that quarterback for success down to down or year to year, because it is so post snap reliant on receivers choice routes. So you're not really going through a set progression. You're not really going from sideline to sideline or reading your triangle or going high to low. You're basically saying, okay, hold, hold, hold, okay, he's got a step or hold, hold, hold. They hooked up. Let's throw to space. It doesn't ask a whole lot of quarterbacks mentally in my, in my point of view. But of course, it does put them in avenues to succeed. So when you're leaning into that aggressive style play and you're leaving plays on the field and you're already Slowing his next level, you know development I could easily see if you're in Nicos camp

Let's get the heck out of here cut, you know Cut our losses and let's find somewhere else to play you still lay on the other hand. I don't know Look, I don't know where his real market was, but going there tells me it probably was not as vast as I anticipated or he anticipated. He is going to have some transfer guys that have some potential to make them an average offense, but I have a hard time believing

that this is gonna be a above average offense, particularly in the Big 10. Even though he is going to be a little bit of a gem in terms of arm talent, I don't know, let's just say, in terms of counting stats, where like that would get people's attention, you know, he's throwing for 3,000 yards and 35 touchdowns. I don't think he's going to have that sexy type of output where people are going to say, oh, that was a good move for both sides. Same time, Tennessee, be careful what you wish for, because Joey Aguilar has been a turnover machine

playing against, let's say, less than seller competition. So while Nico was throwing airmails, he wasn't throwing them to defenders, and that is the exact opposite of Joey Aguilar. So what can Nico do better? And look, so I will, this is where I will bring maybe the first nice thing I've said about Nico's camp. They did bring up concerns about the offense. Now, they didn't bring them up when they should have they brought them up after

everybody was mad at them. But could this offense which is Tino Sanseri coming from Indiana, presumably bringing Indiana's offense even though he didn't call it last year for Indiana, could that help Nico develop? Well, again, the Viren shoot, it's a very high scheme in RPOs. Indiana ran a lot of RPOs last year. So in theory, yeah, that aspect, making him a distributor, you know, getting the ball out fast. Like I mentioned, the Viren shoot shoot when it's running drop back stuff It's it's vertical choice type of stuff. It can buffer and lead to mistakes So I think more true quick game stuff whether it is slants whether it is spot whether it is stick whether it is

These tried-and-true West Coast staples to truly, you know make him a point guard and getting the ball out into playmaker space and just matriculate down the field as Honk Strom used to like to say. I think that could be very well and help his development because like we mentioned earlier that cerebral aspect is a very nice desirable thing but it's intangible. It's really hard for people on the outside to gaze that type of thing. But if he can master an offense, understand checks and

progressions and get the ball out and continue to not log a lot of mistakes, absolutely he can help himself. As far as playmaking and plays outside of structure, I think he absolutely can be better in that regard. Of course, you don't wanna lean on backyard ball, but you also don't want to be a complete negative in that aspect as well. So erasing sacks, offering a little bit more potency with his legs, I think will absolutely do him favors.

But in terms of the immediate thing, just being a risk adverse point guard decision maker, an offensive executive if you will, because there's no better way to one, get easy completions and get easy yardage, hitting yardage than just being an RPO facilitator in that aspect. That was a lot of information, Andy. That was, but it's good because

I feel like the NECO discourse has devolved into just, are you a Tennessee fan and you're mad at him or are you a person who doesn't like Tennessee and you want to see him succeed because you want Tennessee to feel bad about letting him walk? Like it's, it's so much more emotional than anything else. But the fact of the matter is he was a fairly controversial quarterback. Because even before. Yes. Yeah. If he were still at Tennessee, I think we'd still be having some similar discussions about, okay, how good is he really? And I think Clark's right.

You know, Clark, when we talk about the Viren shoot is the offense that Tennessee runs. It is based on the old Art Riles Baylor offense. And it is, like we've yet to see an NFL quarterback come from the Viren shoot. Now, the same thing used to be said about the air raid and then Pat Mahomes came from the air raid and now everybody's fine with air raid quarterbacks in the NFL.

But this one is, it's different. It's different. Like quarterbacks count in a box every play. If it's a light box, it's handing off. If it's a heavy box, you mentioned the choice routes that the receivers are running. Like it's fairly simplistic. When it works, it really works.

But that's the question about Nico is like, why were the deep balls not catchable? You know, because that was the frustrating thing about watching him at Tennessee is that there were open receivers that he just missed sometimes. So is that the offensive's fault? Or is that his fault? Um, yeah, it's his fault. But I mean, he is 6'6". So let's not

forget that release point is very high. If you're thrown to a 5'10 receiver, like we had this discussion with Will Howard last year, when he was, it was kind of like the opposite where, you know, he, he's six, five, and he, he had zero receivers or he had like one catch career before going to Ohio State with a guy over 511 or something like that, which is like unheard of. But yeah, when you're six, six, and you're throwing to shorter guys, that can matter, particularly on deep balls. It's like a golf shot. If you're just a fraction you're throwing to shorter guys that can matter particularly on deep balls It's like a golf shot If you're just a fraction off and the further it goes that fraction keeps exponentially growing

I mean if you're just missing six inches high and it goes I was I was told there would be no physics In in my football podcasting career. Um, it's a bad at math podcast. It's certainly about Do I need to call mr. DeSanto from Lake Mary. Hi, I'm explain this to me. Well, I got this whiteboard behind me. So anyway, no, but yeah, I just think it's a little bit of bad circumstance. Some of his physical shortcoming, I would say it's shortcoming, but it's just something to deal with. But I think it's just going to be have be something with more reps get used to that.

Because if I see that again, I'm writing them off and I'm not going to forgive them. You can't be a consistently bad downfield passer in my eyes. I mentioned this at the top. But how about Sam Levin? Immediately got my attention because he was an accurate downfield passer, as did did Drake may as did CJ Stroud as Jaden Daniels and other and other guys in my previous impact samples that just really thrived in that context

That's how you're gonna separate yourself. So if he can if he does what he did last year Yeah, we write him off and we can just do whatever just because of the ease of access the velocity You know just you can't teach that type of stuff And we can just do whatever just because of the ease of access, the velocity. You know, just you can't teach that type of stuff. I'd like to think that you can maybe hone in that accuracy. We saw Josh Allen in the next level. He used to be one of these alien atelier years. He was just so inaccurate at college, but figured it out. That's not going to happen for every person.

I, you know, that might be Nico's case. He might be that type of arm talent down the line, but in terms of the short term, just for what UCLA wants, what he wants as a brand, and potentially getting a next big payday, he can't afford to be that inaccurate again. So he better shore that up. He better. I'm so excited to see these guys actually play.

I was just thinking about like that, the UCLA Utah season opener. Like what we've talked about today makes me even more excited about that season opener. Clark, I cannot thank you enough. We gotta have you back. We gotta do some more pre-season. We'll drill down on some of these position groups.

Like this is awesome. So Clark, thank you so much. Andy, Ari, it was a pleasure. Thanks for being here, bud. Appreciate you. That is the great Clark Brooks. Those are the hundred most impactful players in college football.

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