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we gotta talk a little bit of basketball,
but there's a little football flavor to it
because I don't know about you guys. I laughed on Saturday when the incidentally selection committee released
the preliminary seed. So basically what they've started to do the last few years, and I really
appreciate the committee doing this because it helps get you a jumpstart on the bracket
ology season helps you understand and contextualize where everybody is in the college basketball season
because let's be perfectly honest.
There's a lot of football fans who really don't tune in till
after the Super Bowl.
So the Super Bowl ended and I think there's probably this
past weekend a lot of brand-new college basketball fans that
were watching say Auburn, Alabama number one versus number
two game that that had big implications for
for seeding. Now, before that game started is when the NCAA selection committee released
its preliminary top 16 seed seeds. So this is the you know, the first four seed lines.
This is what we would put together like Ari and I used to
do the the Andy Staples show, computer laptop, something when
Nexus, it's spelled ass clown, I'm trying to remember, I can't
even remember what the words were, but we made sure it's
spelled as clown. And we would do these in, in the off season.
And we were basically, they the off season. And basically they were designed
to piss the most people off.
This is what we would have done
in the ASCLown football rankings,
except this is real and it's basketball,
which makes it utterly bizarre.
Number one Auburn, number two Alabama,
number three Duke, number four Florida.
So those are your four number one seeds.
So three SEC teams on the one seed line. You go to the two seed line. Number five, Tennessee. Number six, Texas A&M.
Seven, Purdue. Eight, Houston. So five of the top six seeds are from the SEC. Your three seed line,
nine Iowa State, 10 Kentucky, 11 Wisconsin, 12 Arizona.
Now it's starting to filter out a little bit. And the four seed line, 13 Texas Tech, 14
Michigan, 15 Kansas, and 16 Rick Pitino's St. John's team. So there you go. That's your
top 16 seeds if the season ended Saturday morning,
obviously there's some movement that could happen.
If your team is in this bunch,
I think you can safely assume they're getting it at large,
even if they lose every game for the rest of the way.
But I just find it fascinating that the SEC
utterly dominating this thing.
And it's actually earned that, you know, a lot of times with football, we don't have the data points to say, well, I didn't do it in the non-conference. The SEC did great in the non-conference. And part of it is, they made a concerted effort to improve their non-conference scheduling, because basically, a few years ago, the SEC teams were not getting as many at large as in the
tournament as they wanted. They didn't feel like, the committee didn't feel
like the schedule strength was there in the non-conference. And so the SEC brought
in Mike Tranghese, the former Big East commissioner, to come in and kind of
yell at the basketball coaches and say, look, this is all your fault. You could
fix this. Now a lot of
it is the coaching turnover and you get Nate Oates at Alabama,
Bruce Pearl at Auburn. You get people who are taking basketball
very seriously. Todd Golden has done a good job at Florida and
all of a sudden you have a league that is very, very
competitive at the top. Despite we played the Carl Ravage clip last week.
We know you guys get the 500 conference play joke.
I'm not sure everybody does, but the SEC was really good in the non conference, and that's why.
You have so many SEC teams seated so high and And also the folks who actually do the bracketology,
like James Fletcher, the third at our place at on three,
they're looking at it in terms of the net ranking,
which is what the committee is using to help it guide
how they see the teams.
They do the quad system, quad one wins, quad two wins,
quad three wins, quad four wins.
Because the SEC was so good in the non-conference, basically every SEC game is a quad one game.
So the good teams in the SEC are just burnishing the resume every time they play, every time
they win in conference.
And I think it's interesting to see the ACC, you see Duke in there at number two, and then
you don't see any other ACC teams
It's just been it's been a very tough year for the ACC for example
Clemson
May the second or third best team in the ACC
Lost to South Carolina the non-conference South Carolina has won a conference game yet in SEC play. So
That's where they're at
But you've also got the the Big 12 kind
of creeping up in there and we knew the
Big 12 when they added Houston when they
added Arizona was going to be an even
better basketball League Saint Johns.
They're one of the stories of the year.
You can't not being there.
Also one of the stories of the year
that they've kind of fallen falling
back to the pack, but oh, smash the numbers Ferris, but the SEC
is only 500 in conference play. That's right. Now, we can say
that about everybody. But there are some challenge situations
coming up. I believe you get an ACC big 10 challenge situation
coming up, believe next weekend. So the the since January 4,
stats are going to change a little bit, but I just found it hilarious
Looking at this this is from the actual NCAA men's basketball tournament committee
And it basically looks like the offseason football rankings we would do to piss people off
like
Even the way they did it like having Auburn ahead of Alabama now granted
Auburn's been ahead of Alabama most the season Auburn did just beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa,
but we would do it, the way we would do it is
if Alabama had just beaten Auburn in the Iron Bowl,
we would put Auburn ahead of Alabama
just to piss people off.
So congratulations, tournament committee.
You would make excellent internet trolls
in the college football world,
but I understand you are actually just going by the numbers
in the basketball world.
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Okay, we're rolling all right Ross Dillinger from Yahoo reporting
that when the SEC and big 10, a DS get together in New Orleans
on Wednesday, this week, they're going to talk about playoff
format, there is a chance that they're going to talk about
going to 14 going to 16 starting in 2026. And basically, they're
in charge of this thing. They're taking this to everybody else.
This is not for next year. this is for two years from now.
And the 14 one is the one I would keep my eye on
because I think it still keeps
their conference championship games lucrative.
So the 14 team one would be four Big 10 teams,
four SEC teams, two ACC teams, two Big 12 teams,
one group of five team. I'm bad at math, but I
believe that leaves one at large, which could be Notre Dame, could be somebody else. So
that would be one potential outcome. A 16 team playoff that doesn't have any buys would
be another one. I don't think that's the one they would go for. Also, something the SEC and Big 10 eighties, if you read what I wrote in October, I said,
the Big 10 can help the SEC get more money from ESPN and get the
SEC to add the ninth conference game, which is what the Big 10
has wondered, which actually is what a lot of the SEC wants,
including Greg Sankey, by saying we will do a scheduling
agreement with you, we will do a regular season challenge or regular just
regular season games more of them featuring Big Ten and
SEC teams.
If you go to nine conference games, that is something the
SEC can take the ESPN and say, hey, would you like Michigan
and Ohio State to be on your air a little more regularly?
Well, this is how you can do it, but it's going to cost you.
Other news in the world of college football. regularly. Well, this is how you can do it, but it's going to cost you.
Other news in the world of college football. Philip Montgomery is being targeted by Virginia Tech for its offensive coordinate position according to ESPN's Pete Thamel. Philip Montgomery, of course,
the longtime OC at Baylor under Art Briles was the Tulsa head coach and then didn't work out at Auburn
that first year with you, Freeze, but that would be a little more. I'm
going to give you a little more to fuel your day presented by Hewell. That would be a pretty
radical shift in offense for Virginia Tech. So I would be interested to see what that looks like,
because it would be the old Baylor offense, which is what you see Ole Miss run, which Mississippi
State runs it. You've seen it kind of
proliferate when Dino Babers was Syracuse, he ran it. So you've
seen it around now. It's hard to transition to that right away.
So we'll see how Virginia Tech does with that. Kevin Wilson
heading to Oklahoma as an offensive analyst, former Tulsa
coach Kevin Wilson, but also from Oklahoma offensive coordinator was the offensive coordinator in the late aughts when
Oklahoma had some of the best offenses in college football. Also, Kevin Wilson, one of the architects
of the original great spread offenses, he worked with Randy Walker at Northwestern at the turn of
the century. He was on the ground floor of basically every offense you see
today, there are seeds of that Northwestern offense
that Randy Walker and Kevin Wilson ran.
So Kevin Wilson helping out with Ben Arbuckle at Oklahoma,
the new OC.
Ben Arbuckle is 29 years old.
He didn't turn 30 till week three.
That's a nice little sounding board right there.
Also, one more piece of news. UConn went down to Columbia
and beat South Carolina in women's hoops.
I believe that is a 71 game winning streak at home,
snap for the Gamecocks.
So we'll see what happens the rest of this season,
but I don't know if it's necessarily gonna be
South Carolina just marching to the title again.
Looks like there will be some resistance along the way.
No resistance, though, when it comes to RIP in Packs on this show, we are, of course,
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We welcome the great Cole Kubilic. You see him on ESPN.
You hear him on the cube show.
You also hear him on McElroy and Kubilic, Kubilic and McElroy on
WJOX 104.5 in Birmingham, 94.5.
Getting my call letters and numbers mixed up. But Cole, welcome.
What's up fellas?
How are we doing?
We have not had you on since the Pop Tarts Bowl.
Oh.
I have to ask.
Basically is your life now you go to the grocery store,
you go to wherever with your kids
and people are like, Oh my God, it's the Pop Tarts Bowl guy.
There were especially the first few days afterwards,
it was a year the guy from the Pop Tarts Bowl.
And there are a couple of funny stories
that go along with that.
We had a sweet old lady at church,
the first Sunday that I was back.
And you can imagine that's probably the first Sunday
that I'm at church in 20 weeks or so.
Uh, and my wife runs our Sunday school class.
So she manages all that by herself and she comes up to me and she says,
just want you to know pop tart from my go-to breakfast.
Uh, I love unfrosted blueberry.
They don't make them anymore.
And I, I had just been on the website to try and familiarize myself with all the different flavors before the
game in case we got into the conversation. I said, now hold
on a second. I'm pretty sure they have those I can might be
able to help you. And the director of marketing had just
reached out about sending something to me and I said, if
you could throw in a couple unfrosted blueberry, please, for
the sweet old lady at church, and we ended up taking her like
10 of the super sized packs of unf. And we ended up taking her like 10 of the super-sized packs
of unfrosted blueberries.
So I think she's set for the next two years on PopCharts.
But yeah, it's like my kids were bummed out
that I got my kids got like the gab watches.
Andy, yours are probably past that.
R, yours are a little too young for that.
They can text you and talk to you on their watch.
We're like a year behind, but we wanted to wait.
And so my son will just send me rows of emojis.
Just, I mean, just like whatever ones he can type.
And I get a voice message from him at halftime.
I was like, I'm gonna go listen to that.
And he's like, daddy, are you bringing that costume home?
Or are they gonna make it in that pack?
And I was like, the important questions
that we have at halftime of a competitive Pop Tarts bowl and so I did not
think to play dad is Kim Ward gonna play in the second half?
No, he didn't care. He's am I bringing that that costume home
and I actually told that guy that my kids do not know that
this is here but there it is right there. Oh II have that
one as well in my house. My my daughter will occasionally just
grab it and and pop out in
the pot. Like if friends are over, she will. She will emerge
in the Pop Tarts costume because she thinks that makes her be
coolest kid in school. We got like sunglasses. We got Pop
Tarts towels like I mean we are living the Pop Tarts life
here like this. Yeah, you're basically locked in. I think to
like 10 years of Halloween costumes right there. I am waiting for the sickos uh at the Pop Tarts
company to go like full Oreo. Have you seen uh those memes
of people are like, yeah, head into the grocery store now to
see what those crazy psychopaths who make Oreos came
up with this week. They have so many weird flavors. I think
you could do that with with Pop Tarts too. Uh yeah and
unfortunately for my waistline
I'm a massive Oreo fan and I have not tried the
Post Malone Oreos, which don't look great
I did try like they're crumbled up or cookies inside the frosting during the Super Bowl
Which were about an eight and a half out of ten. They were solid
So I'm sure I'll be I'll be doing that at some point, but you're right are they don't go with like the crazy flavors
Just yet. It's uh, yeah, yeah like they had pumpkin pie. We tried during the game
Didn't think that was gonna be good. It was actually pretty good cookies and cream was a little bit too much
It was a little heavy didn't I was Jordan liked it
I wasn't a huge fan of it, but not that it was bad
I'll just take wild berry and I'm good to go. That's all I need. Yeah, the one that blue frosted blueberry guy
Okay, I like the the brown cinnamon sugar one That's all I need. Yeah. The one that blue frosted blueberry guy. Okay.
I like the brown cinnamon sugar one.
That's also good.
Now the key of us are going to be the non frosted crazies that are out there.
Also.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you like buying shirts?
Probably look through the depression or something and like frostings just too much.
Yeah.
I, uh, I like the wheels to come on the car when I buy it.
I don't know what you know why you would do that.
But yeah, the Sour Patch Oreo is something that I would be interested in.
That was one of the weirder combinations that I've seen.
Can I offer an unpopular opinion? I don't like hard cookies of any kind.
I realize this may be hurting us with potential advertisers.
Hard cookies? Don't like hard cookies. Like even like Girl Scout cookies? I realize this may be hurting us with potential advertisers. Hard?
Don't like hard cookies.
Like even like Girl Scout cookies?
Crunchy cookies.
So you're saying you like oatmeal raisin, like the soft cookies.
Like soft, but we're soft chocolate chip.
Yeah, yeah.
You're not a thin mint guy?
I do like thin mints out of the freezer.
That's probably the one exception.
Out of the freezer's way to go.
Can you open a sleeve and not finish said sleeve is the question. No, not possible. The Girl Scouts were set up outside the house or like two houses down
the other day. We drove by my daughter's like, oh, I'm going to go get something.
I'm like, please don't because you know what's going to happen.
So we have to before we get into football have a re fat admission here.
So like what I would do,
yeah, what I would do with the Oreos would be,
and I would eat a whole sleeve of Oreos back in my heyday.
I would take a big cup of milk
and then I would take half the sleeve of Oreos
and just put it into the milk,
let it sit for like five or six minutes
and then eat it with a spoon.
Andy, you should try that. See if
you can come around on the. Maybe I will. It's not real nice, but it's delicious. It's called Oreo.
Producer River says, are you at this? You're out on Chips Ahoy? It's like, yes. Keibler soft
batch back in the day. Those were. That's real legit. Keibler, pretty legit. Ari, I actually,
somebody snuck me that we had a little challenge on the
radio show a couple of years ago.
Somebody said, could you eat a pack of Oreos in under five minutes?
And I just laughed and said, five.
Uh, I think I could get it done in under three.
And the person kind of DME he goes, Hey, here's your trick.
Just pour the milk in the tray and you'll eat it so fast.
They won't necessarily dissolve before you get going.
So like a third of the Oreo. It just stays in the tray really
nice for you right there and you just pull it out. Half of it
is already soft and you go to town. I think I knocked him
out in like a minute ten. Yeah. So you're talking about one
sleeve, not the whole box, not the whole. No, the whole pack.
I ate the whole pack. The whole pack in a minute 10? Yeah.
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Do you have video of this?
It's out there somewhere.
Yeah, I don't even want it for the show.
This is one of my personal collection.
Yeah, this is where Periscope was a real thing.
So, I don't know if Periscope videos are alive anymore.
Kind of like whatever the other thing we used to watch short videos on.
I forget what that platform was called.
It first came out.
Vine.
Vine.
Vine. That's it. Yeah.
I forget what that platform was called. It first came out.
Fine.
Fine.
Fine, that's it.
Yeah.
Ari does not comprehend the O-line stunt eating
that can happen.
Because Ari's not a vast quantity eater.
No, but there is a part of me that can relate to this.
And when I was in high school,
my friends thought it was a great idea to enter me in pizza eating contests and
we wouldn't win.
And my response to it always was guys, I like this.
I would like to enjoy this.
I don't need to jam it in as fast as I can.
I want to savor this moment.
Anytime I get good pizza, why would we rush through that?
Now Oreos just happened to be something along the
lines of Krispy Kremes and a few other delicatess out there that I just happen to be able to
knock down pretty fast. So when it was laid up in front of me as a challenge, I knew I
probably did it pretty quickly anyway. So I was like, you know what, I could probably
hit the gas and get down with that pretty quick.
With Oreos, you're like that guy on the man show who could open his throat and just drop a beer in one gulp.
Yeah, it's just one after another.
It reminds me of those people who
buy the Krispy Kreme donuts and stack them up
and then push them down with their body weight
and then eat it like a burger.
It's like 10 donuts at once.
But the milk thing, you take a scoop of that.
You put the whole sleeve into the cup.
And then it was one of those remember
like Harkins movie theaters or AMC when they used to give you
those big plastic cups that would be for the it's like a
bus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is the vessel for the milk and the
Oreos. And then you pour the Oreos in you let them the milk
settle and then at the end when you're done eating the Oreos
the milk is delicious. Oh, I'm just throwing two scoops of ice
cream in there and hitting the. Yeah, that's a pay
button. That sounds like a
tremendous shake. All right.
You'd have been proud Super
Bowl party at my house, which
consisted of only my four other
family members because I don't
like to watch football with
people. We had two different
pizza orders in the house and
wife wasn't feeling good.
Usually she'll make it so she
don't want to make it. So we go
to two different places and my daughter now wants the handmade pan or the deep whatever pan
from Domino's. And so, I got cheesy bread and I said, have you just curious? Have you guys ever
because I usually eat it all. I said, have you guys tried the cheesy bread before? No, no. So,
seven-year-old, nine-year-old both get their first flavor, first taste of cheesy bread.
Both thought it was amazing.
Didn't want any more pizza, just wanted cheesy bread.
And I was like, there you go, see?
You're a real veteran when you don't even get the pizza
and you just order the cheese bread.
That is where we're heading in our house, by the way.
Because my daughter is on the cheesy bread train.
I'm on the cheesy bread train.
My son is the last holdout,
but he's also trying to gain weight. So he's eating the
pizza and the cheese. Never forget Ari. That man right there called you crazy for that. That guy
right there. I have apologized. He was right. This, this is the last take about cheesy bread,
but it was the original take Cole. And it is, if you were to take that cheesy bread, but it was the original take-hole. And it is, if you were to take that cheesy bread,
remove it from the packaging,
like a fresh batch that's still warm and soft,
put it on a tray, cut it up nicely,
and put a toothpick in it,
or do something to dress it up,
and you put it on the table at a five-star restaurant,
it would be, people would say it's the best appetizer
they've ever had,
but because it comes in a Domino's box,
people just go into it with the preconceived notion
that it's not delicious.
And it bothers me
It's like a bear when he I don't know if you guys have seen the show at all
Yeah, he gives him the little bitty Pequod's pizzas, which Pequod's pizza on pleasure
Oh, yeah, very good
It's just like same thing if you were to give Pequod's to people at a fancy restaurant and say well
This is from a pizza joint. They would say no, but if they just ate it
They would say it's the most amazing thing they've ever had
I agree
well
And that's like when you go to a barbecue joint in Texas
and you get beef rib.
Now, beef rib is super expensive now because beef's just expensive.
But back in the day when you could get the whole beef rib for like 20 bucks,
you would cut that into 10 different pieces at a fancy restaurant
and charge 49 bucks a plate for it.
And then call it something obscure that it isn't like beef.
Beef, come on, you know.
We just call it like, well, you can.
We'll call it short rib and yeah.
Braised groin or something, I don't know.
We just throw it out there. Braised groin.
You know, whatever it is.
The longer the name, the more expensive it is.
But yeah, I am totally into the,
that should be a good random ranking.
Like foods that are cheap,
that actually are underrated and delicious, and the only reason why is because of what
they come in their packaging.
Fried chicken is the ultimate of that.
Yeah, right.
The ultimate.
Like a bucket of Popeyes is some of the best food you can have.
A bucket of Publix fried chicken, for those of you in Publix territory.
Some of the best food period that you can buy, but because it's 9.99 for an eight pack, you know, we look down upon it.
There are people out there that say, I don't like Domino's.
Those poor people.
They say it like, like that's like, like that's like a normal thing to say and I know it's not the
best pizza in the world. It's not like gourmet pizza, but
like if you don't think it gets the job done and the cheesy
bread scratches that that that itch then I don't there's no
hope for you guys. Okay, that's a them problem. It's not exactly
exactly. Alright, so we brought Cole in because Cole and Ari
have bonded over their
love of sports cards, Rippin Packs. We did the Panini ads and we were ripping packs on
the air. Cole was like, how do I get involved in this? And I thought about, oh, Ari's got
cards. Ari's got lots of cards. So I thought,
I thought, why don't we bring Cole on and as a way to get everybody excited about the 2025 season and also kind of help educate people on the players
that are going to help define the 2025 season,
we're going to imagine that we're ripping a pack.
What do
we want to get out of that?
Like what do we want to pull
the most? Who's card do we want
to pull? Now, I changed the
rules a little bit because for
those who don't know the card
companies on in football only
go with the skill guys but not
always. We're we're getting a
little we're getting a little
bit better guys getting in
there. He
is completely and utterly
addicted like me and so much so
that Cole, I've seen you. I'm
already, I've seen you while
I've been with you go on
streams watching Cole rep packs
to emotionally support Cole.
Yeah, I was uh that was at the
National Title game and I want
to do it more. But he is actually
ripping packs and breaking. Yeah, because he's famous. So
not only does he get to enjoy the hobby, but he gets to do
what I would love to do one day, which is to be around, you
know, just to open the boxes and have people buy spots and and
rip away. But like I mean, this is available for Ari. Andy, I
told you he can come down to the principles in Birmingham
anytime he wants. They'll give us a whole day to just rip a bunch of
stuff and we'll have it to
ourselves. So the invitations
out there, all he's got to do is
show up and I've been buying
uh, cards of national treasures
of, of games that I covered or
you know, people I covered and I
just got this one here. This is
Justin Fields. It's an only an
eight and a half. I don't know if you
could see it, but that's a national championship game
patch number two there and that's the five like so we have
we have some some collegiate stuff over here to the national
treasures from Panini is amazing. So but yeah, it's I
think it's a really cool concept because in the card world, who
you want to pull a lot of times is just based on who's worked the most, which is just quarterbacks.
But like, I'm very curious because you and I have kind of been on the same page
a lot of the way here on like trying to figure out who the best players
returning are.
And I did a list on Wednesday of 10 breakout candidates here that, and it's
like, who, who would you be excited to?
Because you, you actually texted me the other day. i don't remember what we were texting about but you brought
up deon burks as somebody that you thought could have a really big year and
i went out and i bought a bunch of his big because they're cheap
right now um and again it got me thinking like who
are guys that you would maybe want to buy cheap
uh that could be really expensive a year from now and that's somebody who came to
mind so yeah yeah because we pulled, um, not this past week, but the week before we got
two Dion Burks to tens that we pulled.
One was autographs.
One was it.
And the guys that got them weren't really excited.
And I was like, folks, I'm just telling you like go watch Oklahoma
spring game from last year.
This kid wasn't healthy this year.
He gets John Matier in there, a new offensive coordinator.
He's got a chance to completely blow it up this year because they'll hand in the
ball.
He'll get the jet sweeps going.
They'll screen him.
He can take it deep over the top.
Maybe even some of the return game.
Uh, I just think he's got a chance to have a massive season.
Uh, and then I showed you a cake that I got and you brought up to Ari that like
he's kind of low right now with what people are looking at and how you can go
get him.
I don't know what it is. Like sometimes that's what was kind of unfortunate right now with what people are looking at and how you can go get him I don't know what it is like sometimes
That's what was kind of unfortunate about being sports fans in general
But specifically college football fans like we get these built-in perceptions
The guys just aren't good or aren't gonna be good go look at club next numbers last year
He was incredible last season legs. He's got a Williams back. The defense is gonna be good. Yep, you have weapons
I think he's gonna have a massive year next year, too
So the big names you put up there like if you get anything that says Manning
Specifically arts you're gonna be excited about that you get a Ryan Williams a Dylan Stewart a Jeremiah Smith
I think you're excited about that. But yeah, I think it's cool to look at like Colin Simmons
Yeah, I think Trey Moore is another guy that I've seen some people pull
I think Trey Moore could lead the sec in sacks partially because he's got
Colin Simmons on the other side of it.
Like that's what Dylan Stewart might not have this year is no
Kyle can art on the other side.
So Colin Simmons, Trey Moore, one of those guys could go completely
bananas because they do have the other guy on the other side.
And then I like to look at it too.
So we all think Ryan Williams is incredible.
We all think Jeremiah Smith is incredible, but who else has to be good if they're going to be good?
Whoever's playing quarterback. So is it going to be Ty Simpson? Maybe that's a guy you could
everybody's sleeping on right now that all of a sudden goes out here dirt cheap right now too.
Yeah, Ty Simpson cards are dirt cheap. So, you know, you look at Ohio State's quarterback
situation, Julian saying you can grab some of his stuff. Not a
lot of people talking about him. He could be somebody that you
get now. And then obviously the value goes way up. So I think
there's a couple of guys out there that the obvious ones, of
course, are going to be valuable now and probably go up. But
then there's a few that I think you could get that you look at
all right, hold down for next year because that one could be
big time. Andy, there's a quick story I wanted to tell you about Cole real quick though. Okay, you go to
your point, but he pulled an Abu sama super fractor, which is
just like a gold vinyl, one of one player card out of a box.
Right, Cole, you got it out of a box. Yeah, like that's a player
who has a ton of potential. you know could have a breakout year
and then that card becomes worth four maybe five figures depending on how good he gets.
And it's like the Iowa State running back for this. Yeah right that's right and like how much time
have we spent talking about him on the show probably not that much but like to have that card
and to have that that piece of stock in that player like Cole you've got to be a big Sama fan
going into next year.
Like that's a huge, you hope he rushes for 1500 yards.
They bring Rocco Beck back, but those two receivers are gone.
Higgins and Noel are gone.
So Sama's probably going to have to be
a very critical piece of that offense.
Right.
I don't think there's any doubt.
And you're going to have a pretty good offensive line.
I think that group will be solid.
Rocco Beck, I think, is better at managing the offense.
I know there's negative connotation with that.
So I'll say operating the offense than he is just throwing the ball around.
Not that he's not good at that, but having them in the bowl game and hear Matt talk about him,
the mental side is where he's best, which is advantage Abu Sama. You get the run looks that you want, he's going to get you to the right
direction. He's going to get the right numbers to that side. So another reason I
think that he could have a big year next year. So I want to get back to the
Birks thing because I find that really interesting. So I'm assuming there's
some John Matier cards out there from Washington State. And now they're gonna get some from Oklahoma.
But like Cole said with Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams,
if Berks is good,
Matias got to be pretty good too.
Are we not looking at Oklahoma correctly?
Because I feel like everything that happened last year
is sort of in a bottle.
Like it's gone.
It's it doesn't resemble what's going to happen this next year because they've changed everything
offensively but I don't think that means all problems are automatically solved.
I think maybe you have a better chance of solving said problems.
The offensive line I don't think has been just solidified quite yet.
You still want to wait to see how that's going to work, even though you'll be
better at quarterback, more experienced at quarterback with a new system.
I think running back is going to be fine.
Receiver is going to be fine, but you had a tight end that really came along
last year that's now going to be playing at LSU that gave you the ability to move him.
He was a bit of a matchup problem.
Physicality got better throughout the course of the year and they were in games largely in part to their him. He was a bit of a matchup problem. Physicality got better throughout the course of the year and they were in
games largely in part to their defense.
Well, the two big leaders on defense are going to be gone at safety and linebacker.
So, you know, Billy Bowman, Danny Stutzman not going to be there.
I think the defensive line, especially the interior could be pretty good, but
you lose Ethan Downs and some of those guys off the edge.
So there are other question marks, but I think some of those massive questions,
concerns, or just flat out problems they had last year, one, injuries,
receiver, offensive line, maybe you can overcome that.
And then two, just not being able to move the football with
quarterbacks that were capable of running all of your offense.
If that goes away, Oklahoma's got a pretty good shot.
Plus I don't think anybody would be mad at Venables now calling the plays defensively.
No, no. And you kind of knew that's where it was headed.
I'm gonna throw one that I think in the town where I live,
if I pull one of these, and I know there's autos of this guy floating around,
there are not many, but if I pulled one, I would be the king of this town.
DJ Lague.
Yep.
Cole, I haven't talked to you about him.
I feel like I've gone from being overly negative about Florida to
maybe overly positive just because I watched this guy in person a bunch last
year and I don't like it, it just feels different when he's out there.
I'll steal this from Roman Harper. Uh, cause I don't mind giving him credit.
We talked about him a lot, middle to late in the season last year, obviously,
when he became the full-time starter and did some things that were beyond
impressive, Roman said, I played with a guy that raised the level of
everybody around them.
He said, I played with Drew Brees and drew was great, but drew was great
at doing what he needed to do. And he said, now cam Newton, everybody played them. He said, I played with Drew Brees and Drew was great, but Drew was great at doing what he needed to do. And he said, now Cam Newton,
everybody played better just whether they were all struck by what he was doing
physically or wanted to try to keep up with him or just motivated about what he
was doing. He just had that energy. Like he had that wife blood of everyone else
is going to raise the level of their play.
And he said watching DJ Lagway, I get that same kind of feeling.
And like you said, Andy, when he's in the game, it's different and
it feels different on both sides of the ball.
They're just not a lot of guys that I think we can describe that way.
And there are some good quarterbacks coming back in college football next year.
I don't know if I would step out on that limb for the majority of those guys.
And you, you could also roll the conversation to if flagways having a
good year, who's going to have a good year around him.
Um, like I think Trayvon ball is a guy that I'm excited to watch on that
Florida offense, 235 pounds that when he runs the football, it looks like
he weighs 205 pounds, so he'll be able to hand the ball off to him and that's
going to offset some of the load.
But whether it's the submarine sidearm throws off balance, off platform fadeaways, he's got the touch.
That's one thing young quarterbacks that have played as little college football as he has do not have a feel for.
And that's how to float the ball over a defensive lineman on a screen or float the ball down the sideline.
Everything's a fastball because they want to prove how hard they can throw the ball.
By the way, doesn't do that.
He gets, okay, this is a crosser.
Take a little bit off.
Give your receiver a chance to catch it.
Let him go run and make a play.
I love the kid.
I do.
I'm excited to watch him play this year.
Um, you can say schedule, you can say some of the pieces around him.
He's going to raise a lot of what's around him.
And therefore I think make Florida much more viable than a lot of people
are talking about right now
That's good to hear cuz Andy and I bought a lot of stock in them and we might go out of business if Florida loses
four games
Like Greg and I've been talking about this a lot for the last week on our show if I asked you guys right now
You had the
opportunity to push all your chips to the table for one team
to win a national title, even make a deep playoff run. How
many of those teams would there be?
There's, there's not one that just sticks out.
We want to answer my question with your response there.
Because normally it's like, well, Ohio State, Bama, Georgia,
Clemson, Texas A&M, USC, whoever the players, Michigan.
Okay.
Oh, UNC is going to be really good this year.
I'll throw them in there.
Okay.
Maybe Miami.
I, it almost feels like maybe none.
Penn State, Penn State's a heavy, maybe for me.
Clemson's a heavy, maybe for me.
And then we get to real question marks.
So everybody's talking about Florida schedule.
Oh, it's so tough.
It's so difficult.
Well, those teams on Florida schedule had the same questions that everybody else does.
There's just, there's not a ton of overall confidence with anybody right this second.
So therefore like LSU lost both tackles.
They lost a bunch of receivers.
All of a sudden, Harold Perkins is an every down player.
We haven't really seen it yet.
I, I, they lost pieces up front on the defensive line. They lost a guard. They haven't been
great at running back the last few years. I mean, who else do you want to pick on the
schedule? Like there's, there's question marks everywhere. So I just think that these teams
that were looking at their schedule saying, I don't know if they can get past that. All
those teams have questions. It's just the same way. So I have to ask you this. I have
to ask you though, is there a team that you would push her? Because there's
a team that I would push all my chips in to be in the Final Four.
If you're telling me to pick one right now, it would be Clemson.
If you're making me do it for a different team, it would
probably be Penn State. And Penn State, I think, has less
talent concerns or player concerns as they do maybe
coaching concerns, big game concerns, if you will. So they're not even all
about, you know, how many offensive linemen do you have, or do you have good receivers? Some of it is just what we
believe that team's truly capable of or program's truly capable of. So those would be the ones right now that I would
look at. I think there's a lot to like about Oregon, a lot to like about Texas, but I could also talk myself out of
those teams in a heartbeat.
lots like about Texas, but I could also talk myself out of those teams in a heartbeat.
And what's yours? Who's yours?
Well, Texas is one of them for me.
Oregon would be another one.
I like Notre Dame just because I think they're going to have the best
offensive line in the country.
And I think it, that's where everything starts anyway, but they have to
replace some good players on defense. Now look, they had to replace those.
A lot of those players during the season last year and did it capably.
So I feel pretty good about Notre Dame, but, but Texas and Oregon,
probably like I do, like there's it factors.
Sometimes Riley Leonard, it factor, uh, you know, Jack Kaiser,
it factor Howard cross it factor Xavier Watts, it factor.
And it's not to say that they don't have other good players, but third and two,
how do you manage the pocket and find a way to get three yards?
Uh, you're in coverage on third and five.
Do you know when to come off and come tackle the running back out of the
backfield and let your man go?
Like Xavier Watts knew how to do those things.
And I talked to Al Golden at the sugar bowl.
He's like, Hey man, we don't coach him to do all that stuff.
He's just good enough to do it on his own sometimes.
So now they're going to be more twitchy off the edge.
Yes.
As good or deep inside without Riley Mills and Howard cross, those two guys played,
but I don't know if they'll be as good.
Jeremiah loves incredible.
Like I'll take him over maybe any back in college football right now.
But, and then we got to see the quarterback like in jelly came in in the orange was throwing darts. Here, my love's incredible. Like I'll take him over maybe any back in college football right now, but,
and then we got to see the quarterback.
Like in jelly came in and the orange was throwing darts. I talked to him after the game.
It was super impressive.
It's just sometimes you don't replace it guys with talent and it guys just can't
be replaced because they know situational football and they know how to get things
done at a certain time and they want that on them and not every kid wants
that moment on them. I'm every kid wants that moment on them.
I'm glad you brought that up because Ohio State obviously has two it guys.
Like if you're ripping a pack and you're pulling cards and you pull a Jeremiah
Smith and a Caleb downs, you are so happy because it's possibly the best
defensive player returning in college football and definitely the best
offensive player returning in college football.
But the it guys conversation we just had Cole, like how many it guys did they lose in JTT and
Jack Sawyer and Donovan Jackson and I think Will Howard might have been an it guy.
Now, Quinshaw Judkins maybe.
Yeah.
I mean, look how and Trevion next to him, how they offset one another.
How Will Howard sometimes leaned on his legs later in the season. Yeah, I mean look how and Trevion next to him how they offset one another how will Howard?
Sometimes leaned on his legs later in the season
Yeah, I think that maybe maybe even if you didn't categorize those guys as it guys
They would be for like a basketball perspective role players if you will
Leadership guys glue guys. It's one of the I mean my son's seven
So he doesn't really get this but like that's why I talk to him all the time about like run the floor,
rebound, hustle, back people up in baseball.
Like all those hard hat glue guy things are the stuff that nobody wants to do.
So if you can go out there and do those things, you're going to put yourself way
ahead of the curve if your ability is not on par with everybody else's.
And that's what kind of some of those guys were also, I don't think it hurts
that they were inside the program for four and five
years, um, and that's going to be what's so hard moving forward for teams like
Ohio state is okay, cool.
You got a bunch of five stars, but they need a year or two.
Ohio state's guys mostly stayed and waited it out, developed within the program.
Inherently.
It means more inherently, you know more about the guy next to you.
Inherently, you know more about the staff and the system and the scheme, and
you want to play harder for the guys next to you.
All of those things show up in big games in big moments.
And that's probably where I discounted Ohio state most and was most wrong about
going into the playoffs is when you need to auto correct something, who do you
want to have to be able to do that?
It's not true freshmen all the time.
It's not guys that just transferred in.
I want guys who've lived it and breathed it.
I want guys who like Seth McLaughlin on my podcast told me about the
Buckeye trees out there.
I didn't know that it's one of the coolest traditions I've ever heard
of now that I know about it.
Like I want the guys who want a damn Buckeye tree out there.
Like those are the guys that are going to be able to go fix it on their own and
get it right on their own.
Cause they're going to hold everybody else accountable and they're going to
give you everything that they have to be able to get that done also.
And I don't know the exact term or phrase for those guys.
Veterans is the only thing I can think of, but you're going to need some of
those too, if you're going to be able to get it right and Notre Dame had
veterans last year, I think they have talent.
There's no doubt they have ability.
It's just to win where we are now to get there and then to do what Ohio State just
did, you kind of have to have all of, and I don't know, I don't know what the, if
we slice the pie up, which percentage you need more of, but you got to have some
MFers that can just play better than everybody.
You got to have some glue guys.
You got to have some vets, you know, some, some heart guys, some meaningful guys
that just can sort of paint the picture for everybody else of what it means and
what it's going to mean the rest of your life that gives you some extra want to.
You got to have some role players.
Like you got to have a little bit of all that stuff.
If you're going to do it, Ohio State just did.
And that's how the game has changed guys.
Like if this conversation was happening five years ago in hearing what you
were saying Cole like my eyes would have rolled all the way to the back of my head because to me
it was always like how many good players do you have but it's like now the Notre Dame's of the
world you're absolutely right it's a mixture of both and when the teams are more evenly situated
from a talent perspective it's the team that has the safety that knows exactly how to make a play that turns the game.
Yep. And Notre Dame probably used to be all glue guys and no super talents. Now they've got super talents and glue guys, because they're super talented, five star prospects played into their fourth year in the program.
And that's not something you've even seen at Ohio State, not just even before last year ever.
Like it was like, wow, I used to think when I was covering them that if you made it to year four,
you stunk. If you're not in the NFL after three years and you didn't do your job.
It's like the old like we were in John Chavis when he was LSU's defensive coordinator back in the
Les Miles era. And he says after a game, he he's like we recruit you to be here for three years
like I think he'll say the same thing. I want to call him like in 2015 of like Ohio State
should never redshirt anybody again because if anyone's on the team for four years it's
a waste of a roster spot. That was urban's attitude. I mean my freaking said that he
said that when he took the Florida job,
he's like we're not redshirting anyone anymore.
If you've redshirted,
it's because something went wrong like you got hurt or something
because we want you to play and be gone in three years.
Yeah, so you know, and like it turns out.
Like that's wrong.
I mean, what is now with an IL where there's a possibility.
Jack Sawyer could have existed during the Urban Meyer era and had the same exact career arc
and he played by far his best football in the last four games of his career after four years.
Like that's not a very typical thing.
You don't usually see players come out and play their best at the end
because when it took that long for the light to turn on.
And I feel like that happened with a few of Ohio State players this year.
But Jack Sawyer was at Ohio State because Ohio State could make it financially
somewhat close to what Jack would have made as a rookie in the NFL.
He might have left. You're right. Like five years ago, he probably would have left.
And that's the difference.
After the third year. So but yeah, that is the difference.
what about that for the third year? So, but yeah, that is the difference.
So, Cole, I, I get the sense from hearing you talk about Clemson, that you think they may be one of those veteran heavy teams. I am very high in Clemson as well. I have been preaching since, well, since the house
settlement, like, OK, if they're doing revenue share, Dabo is going to have money now. Watch out because this is going to get, they're going to get real good again. But it's also because you still have to be able to recruit while out of high school and develop.
Yep. And they never got away from that. Like they still do that better than almost anybody. people say that it's dipped the last couple, I don't follow recruiting enough to be an expert on this. So the people in the comments want to correct me.
That's fine.
I'm not up to speed on it really, but people have told me that, Oh, they've
been outside the top 10 the last couple of years, or they had a class
outside the top 15, so they haven't been the same, but even if the last two
classes were that the proven commodities that are coming back are on
par with anybody in college football, The defensive lineman, the receivers, the running backs, the quarterback,
that's on par with just about anybody anywhere.
So when I see those high level guys and know what they're gonna bring with some
depth, I feel pretty confident about what they're gonna be able to do,
especially in that conference.
And then on top of that, you've gone to the portal now to get a couple of guys.
And I realized the response to that will be, well, that's not a frontline
starter. That's not an all-American candidate. Where we have seen the portal be almost more beneficial is being able to get you
through two quarters of football or two series of football or two weeks of football and not have this massive drop off like Alabama
did when Jayden Roberts got hurt or Georgia did when Tate Ratledge went down.
I mean, we're seeing more teams when one guy goes down, all of a sudden just
completely change who you are.
That's where I think the portal can be as, or more beneficial than just going to
get in this frontline starter.
Cause not everybody's going to be able to get those because that's a bidding war.
Not everybody has the money to go get those guys, but if you can bring someone
in who all of a sudden, okay, plug player B in,
he's played a ton of football.
He's not going to go the wrong direction.
He's not going to drop the pass because he understands what it takes to be able
to make that happen.
He's not going to blow the coverage in our secondary.
And you survive that two either series or two game stretch because you have a
veteran in there.
That's where I think it can help.
And if Davos just going that route, maybe that's beneficial enough
to put them into the playoff again and make a little bit more of a run.
And then you've got a go to receiver, a quarterback
that's a gamer that can go out and win it for you, a takeover defensive lineman
that maybe can be enough for Clemson to find a way to win a national title.
Yeah, it's an club, Nick, which you talked about before.
I think he has, I don't know if it's he's blossomed that Garrett Riley figured out how to
unlock him last year. I didn't realize he was as talented with his legs as he is. I would imagine
the coaching staff knew that, but maybe didn't want to turn it loose because they were about getting hurt
But he's so effective when he can run the ball because it makes him a better thrower
There's no doubt and just think about what that does to defense
The guys that we saw in the playoffs
We mentioned Will Howard how he turned it on late and all of a sudden it felt like they waited until the championship game
And just said you know what screw it if he gets banged up
He gets banged up like we got to run him because of the looks we're getting.
Uh, you think about what Riley Leonard was able to do.
Uh, when Gunnar Stockton came in for Georgia, be at the SEC championship
game, a couple of massive runs now got knocked out in one of them, but he
made those plays with his legs where you're going to either keep a drive
alive or you're going to go get a first down or you're going to get points and
not give the other ball of the team, the football and make things happen.
And plus the, the numbers game that people have to adjust to for that being
a part of what you do is always going to be dangerous enough to give you those
advantages.
Let me look at Philadelphia and the Superbowl.
I mean, Jalen hurts his legs were massive on design runs and
him just leaving the pocket.
So very, very hard for him Like he's dangerous with his legs.
Like he can, he can break a defense now. Yeah. So the card companies don't do the offensive lineman
Cole. I know that this is a little bit better. I think we got a couple, a couple. The one I would
want to pull this year is Spencer Faneu from Utah. He's going to be
a junior this year. He's their right tackle number 55, 6'6", 300 pounds. This is a guy who,
his brother plays for Utah. His brother's an edge rusher for Utah. Everybody wanted Spencer.
He ended up staying home and playing for Utah. And he's just like, it's fun watching him. Because,
Colette, I don't know how you feel about when you're watching
offensive lineman. I love the ones that look like they're just
an athlete, or like a, you know, like a linebacker that you just
you had the printer and you moved it up to like 150% size.
That's what that that's what he is.
Like he's just a he's just an athlete moving gracefully at 300 pounds and then mauling people. It doesn't happen a lot. Um although I'm gonna probably go Charles Jaggesaw at Notre Dame.
Uh what position? It doesn't matter. That's what I love about him. That's why I want him. We can
plug him in a guard and he's gonna pull out there and knock people on their rear ends.
Or if he needs to go at tackle, he'll be fine out there at tackle.
Not to mention interviewed him at the Orange Bowl after the game and dropped an F-bomb on SiriusXM.
So that just fits right into what we need as our offensive lineman.
But he just got that nasty about him. The finisher inside of him that you love to see,
wants to try and make somebody pay on every snap.
That would probably be the offensive lineman that I would go for this.
If it was last year, it'd be Will Campbell or Tyler Booker,
one of those two, LSU Alabama.
But going into this year,
I think Jaguishah will probably be the old lineman that I would chase.
Yeah, the play where he pulls from right guard, which remember,
he was supposed to be the starting left tackle. Yep. He came back and was playing
some guard because that's where he felt like he get on the
field of fastest. He comes in the game because their right
guard got hurt. Rocco Spindler got hurt the, the pole and he
hits, I want to say DDS and, and start celebrating before Riley
Leonard crosses the goal line. It was incredible.
It was like hitting a home run.
You know how that feels.
Like you know what a good block feels like right away.
So you can you can give it a little bit of a walk off if you need to.
But yeah, he's I mean, I didn't realize he was as massive as he was either.
Seeing him getting up next to him after the game, just a huge kid.
And I saw him at the Sugar Bowl.
And I always walk down to watch the offensive lineman warm up.
And all of a sudden I see because they had
their names on the back of the jerseys in the bowl games.
It's like Jackie saw the hell's he doing out here and I had
to like sprint to the SID and ask her I said is he playing
she's like well available but emergency situation and then
the way I saw him in warm-ups when they won that game.
I was thinking all right, maybe he'll be able to a little bit
and then obviously was a massive help.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'm so excited about that offensive line.
Like when you have the starting center and the starting right guard from the
national championship game hit the portal because they might not have jobs next
year, you got some talent.
It is interesting too, Andy, because it's like my team, Texas, like their, their
offensive line is replacing a ton of talent, you know, like it's like, do you
go with the team that has the ready-made offensive line that's ready to go or do you go with the team that has a bunch of awesome skill players that has a bunch of linemen to replace?
Well, let's talk about this because my feeling on Texas in the offensive line is that Texas has been a program that if they have what they feel as a whole, they go fill it in the portal. Yep. They did not aggressively go after offensive linemen in the portal, which
tells me they like what they got.
I think they do because if you looked at the majority of the guys, some of the
guys that started on this offensive line, like Jake majors was there when Sark got
there, then you go get a DJ Campbell, you go get a Kelvin banks and those next two
classes, I believe it's 22 20, 22 and the 23 class.
Yeah.
They, they said, you know what?
We we've got to load up and Sarks told me before, like we knew we were going to
the sec, we knew we had to recruit the trenches in a little bit of a different
way.
Um, and it was just, it was an emphasis point and something that they had to do.
Uh, I've talked to Taylor Searles about it, who's their director of recruiting.
And she's like, we knew where we were going.
And it was an, it was an obvious emphasis point to get bigger and stronger.
And Sarko tell you, like, we like big humans around here.
So I think they do like some of their young guys that they've got.
And you got a Cole Hudson coming back.
That's played a lot.
It's a veteran, even though he hasn't been a full-time starter, a guy that'll
get after it, they can be very physical.
So I, but I do think that that's the biggest question mark along with tight in because
Gunnar Helm was massive for that team last year. Good blocking,
catching the ball, run after the catches where he got better and
Sark moved him a ton also. So tight end is something that I
think Texas has to find here before the regular season begins
as well.
This guy's just an encyclopedia of college football knowledge,
isn't he? And he. Throw it out, boom. No, we should test Cole, just like have him
name the starting five offensive linemen for every SEC school because he could
like easily. I don't know about right now. That portal will get you. Yeah, I'll let you wait until
after spring practice till the two deep settle down. Yeah
Once the season starts I could give it to you but now okay, but let me ask you this
This has been a popular topic of conversation on the show Ari
Ari let let us know that his civic knowledge wasn't necessarily up to what?
up snuff
So here's a question that we asked him the other day on the show. He did not answer correctly. Do you
know the three branches of the federal government?
Plus, we're gonna go military there. And I felt really good
about that.
You would have forgotten the Space Force.
That's a real thing. Now forgot about that. It is. It is not a Netflix show.
Federal, state. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that Cole and I are like, we were separated at birth. We were in the womb together.
Here's the thing, like, you don't, well, Cole,
Cole got all the good nutrients, I think.
But- He did, yeah.
I got the card.
You don't have to know this stuff to be a functional adult.
And I think that's what Ari's point has been all along.
Like, you can be a functional adult in society.
Successful adult.
Exactly. He's proven it.. I don't need to know so
It's like the other day my my wife usually helps with homework for obvious reasons. My wife was
graduated with honors from Auburn and
was top of her class out of high school and
Things that I'll never be able to say about myself and my daughter's doing fractions she's in fourth grade and she's
like I'm gonna need you to help her with the homework I gotta go do this and this
I'm like okay cool let's get this out here and the problem states that they
are they are disintegrating fractions and yeah I was like, well, wait, wait, like I've
watched enough, like 60 minutes and Dateline to know, oh no,
it's decomposing. I'm sorry. Oh, decomposing fractions. And I
was like, yeah, I've, I've listened to enough murder
podcasts to know that decomposition and math are not
the same. I can tell you how a body decomposes because I've got the body farm up there in Knoxville and I've
heard Tom Hart tell us about that during a game. I was gonna
say anytime there's a blowout in Tennessee, you have to
mention the body farm. Well, there's our words were off. I
don't know if you're the one telling me this in an Uber once
Andy, but I was having a conversation that apparently
they're just teaching kids math differently than they taught
us like the process of solving the problems is completely different than what we grew up learning.
So like as an adult, when you start trying to help your kids with homework, it's like a completely
foreign thing to you that doesn't have any muscle memory because it's different. It seems to go away
as they get older. There may only be like one way to teach the higher up math, but yeah, the basics.
So when my kids were in elementary school, I remember like at
one point I just stood up from the counter and threw my hands up like, I
don't care how your teacher taught you to do it.
I got mad the other day at how they, they're, they do handwriting because
you're going to have to, you're not the picture.
This is kind of hard.
My daughter wrote a G and she started from the bottom
of the loop and did the hook up and then did the G
on the top and I was like, wait, what are we doing?
That's sick.
What are you talking about?
And I said, it can be one motion.
You do the circle and you come down.
Why are we making this hard?
This is not hard.
I said, because if you do the A the exact same way, except you just don't bring the fish hook down,
like, yeah, a is the same as the G that comes down like some
consultant that justified their their salary and their existence.
Like I know we're gonna have a new way to write the G. Yeah, no,
like somebody somebody made $157,000 in a year off of that.
Like somebody somebody made a hundred fifty seven thousand dollars in a year off of that
Somebody also let Chandler Cox take snaps on offense a lot of times and do somebody said let's start the baton bouta against Florida
One of the people involved in that decision is now the head coach of Dallas Cowboys. All right
Cole it's been wonderful. Thank you. I
appreciate it. I appreciate you
guys having this fun
conversation. So, always, always
love talking cards and I always
love talking to you guys,
talking some football. Well, we
got, is that your biggest hit
recently? That's uh I've had
this one for a while. That's a
one on one Garrett Wilson uh
shield gold vinyl. Okay, I've
gotta go. Yeah, I do. I I got Trevor Lawrence right here. I got a lot of I got what's your biggest goal recently.
I have been very cold recently, unfortunately.
I've just been like, yeah, but yeah, it's great having you on as always.
Cole. I appreciate it. Thanks, guys.
Rocha Common Core math math, laugh out loud.
This was Singapore method that I was railing against, but Common Core say pretty much the
same problem.
But that was a lot of fun.
That was a lot of fun.
So Panini America back on board with us.
We're ripping packs.
I've got some prison packs that we're going to rip this week. Thanks to Cole. That was
awesome. I do love talking football with Cole. We're going
to have some fun shows this week. So, Ralph Russo from the
Athletic will be joining us later. I am declaring him the
ombudsman for our show because he listens regularly and is
frequently texting to argue with me and Ari about shows that
happened three days earlier that we've completely forgotten.
So we're gonna let him come in
and evaluate our first season.
So that'll be later in the week.
Tomorrow, Ari and I are gonna talk about
what is the playoff gonna look like
because the SEC and the Big Ten
getting together in New Orleans on Wednesday,
the ADs will be hashing things out
because of the timing of everything.
They gotta make some decisions here.
And so we will see what things might look like.
I had a column come out on three where you could ask one key question
to determine how things might look in the future.
No offseason, no offseason, folks.
It never stops. We'll talk to you tomorrow.