Andy & Ari On3 - D.J. Lagway? Arch Manning? Jeremiah Smith? Whose card do you want to pull in 2025?

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This show is brought to you by Panini America makers, the most collectible sports cards on the planet. You're to see how collectible because cold Kubrick from ESPN is joining us a very, very avid pack ripper, just like Ari. And we're going to go over the guys that you most want to pull from a pack this season in 2025. So it's a little bit of a 2025 preview of players that we're excited about for next year. Get into it with Cole, who I think I think he sees the game better than almost anybody that you're going to see on TV. And we're going to ask him about what he thinks about DJ Lagway and about arch manning and some of these guys that are coming into 2025 with huge expectations and of course, huge expectations if you pull their card out of a pack of Panini cards because
Starting point is 00:00:52 they do have NIL deals with Panini as well as Dylan Raiola. They had Luther Burden last year, they had Cam Ward last year, they've got another group of people coming. They just signed Tavian St. Clair who's a freshman quarterback at Ohio State. They have Julian Sayen, who is we. We think will be the Ohio State QB one this year. I actually pulled a Julian saying card out of a pack a couple of months ago, so lots of fun options for you with Panini America. That prism draft pick set has guys that just got out of college and just got into of college and just got
Starting point is 00:01:25 into the NFL and also stars who are in college right now. So go to paniniamerica.net to start your collection today and you can start making a little cheat sheet for what you want your collection to look like off of this show today. Welcome to Annie and Ari on 3 presented by Wendy's. Ari will be along momentarily. Vomopanther asked in the chat, are panini packs flowers for men? Yes, they are. Yes, they are. Vomopanther, that is brilliant. That's right. Now Valentine's Day is over, but if your significant other forgot Valentine's Day, if you're a dude and your significant other is like, oh, it's, it's, you're supposed to get me something,
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Starting point is 00:02:37 out of those Panini packs, we gotta talk a little bit of basketball, but there's a little football flavor to it because I don't know about you guys. I laughed on Saturday when the incidentally selection committee released the preliminary seed. So basically what they've started to do the last few years, and I really appreciate the committee doing this because it helps get you a jumpstart on the bracket ology season helps you understand and contextualize where everybody is in the college basketball season because let's be perfectly honest.
Starting point is 00:03:08 There's a lot of football fans who really don't tune in till after the Super Bowl. So the Super Bowl ended and I think there's probably this past weekend a lot of brand-new college basketball fans that were watching say Auburn, Alabama number one versus number two game that that had big implications for for seeding. Now, before that game started is when the NCAA selection committee released its preliminary top 16 seed seeds. So this is the you know, the first four seed lines.
Starting point is 00:03:42 This is what we would put together like Ari and I used to do the the Andy Staples show, computer laptop, something when Nexus, it's spelled ass clown, I'm trying to remember, I can't even remember what the words were, but we made sure it's spelled as clown. And we would do these in, in the off season. And we were basically, they the off season. And basically they were designed to piss the most people off. This is what we would have done
Starting point is 00:04:10 in the ASCLown football rankings, except this is real and it's basketball, which makes it utterly bizarre. Number one Auburn, number two Alabama, number three Duke, number four Florida. So those are your four number one seeds. So three SEC teams on the one seed line. You go to the two seed line. Number five, Tennessee. Number six, Texas A&M. Seven, Purdue. Eight, Houston. So five of the top six seeds are from the SEC. Your three seed line,
Starting point is 00:04:43 nine Iowa State, 10 Kentucky, 11 Wisconsin, 12 Arizona. Now it's starting to filter out a little bit. And the four seed line, 13 Texas Tech, 14 Michigan, 15 Kansas, and 16 Rick Pitino's St. John's team. So there you go. That's your top 16 seeds if the season ended Saturday morning, obviously there's some movement that could happen. If your team is in this bunch, I think you can safely assume they're getting it at large, even if they lose every game for the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:05:16 But I just find it fascinating that the SEC utterly dominating this thing. And it's actually earned that, you know, a lot of times with football, we don't have the data points to say, well, I didn't do it in the non-conference. The SEC did great in the non-conference. And part of it is, they made a concerted effort to improve their non-conference scheduling, because basically, a few years ago, the SEC teams were not getting as many at large as in the tournament as they wanted. They didn't feel like, the committee didn't feel like the schedule strength was there in the non-conference. And so the SEC brought in Mike Tranghese, the former Big East commissioner, to come in and kind of yell at the basketball coaches and say, look, this is all your fault. You could fix this. Now a lot of
Starting point is 00:06:05 it is the coaching turnover and you get Nate Oates at Alabama, Bruce Pearl at Auburn. You get people who are taking basketball very seriously. Todd Golden has done a good job at Florida and all of a sudden you have a league that is very, very competitive at the top. Despite we played the Carl Ravage clip last week. We know you guys get the 500 conference play joke. I'm not sure everybody does, but the SEC was really good in the non conference, and that's why. You have so many SEC teams seated so high and And also the folks who actually do the bracketology,
Starting point is 00:06:46 like James Fletcher, the third at our place at on three, they're looking at it in terms of the net ranking, which is what the committee is using to help it guide how they see the teams. They do the quad system, quad one wins, quad two wins, quad three wins, quad four wins. Because the SEC was so good in the non-conference, basically every SEC game is a quad one game. So the good teams in the SEC are just burnishing the resume every time they play, every time
Starting point is 00:07:14 they win in conference. And I think it's interesting to see the ACC, you see Duke in there at number two, and then you don't see any other ACC teams It's just been it's been a very tough year for the ACC for example Clemson May the second or third best team in the ACC Lost to South Carolina the non-conference South Carolina has won a conference game yet in SEC play. So That's where they're at
Starting point is 00:07:43 But you've also got the the Big 12 kind of creeping up in there and we knew the Big 12 when they added Houston when they added Arizona was going to be an even better basketball League Saint Johns. They're one of the stories of the year. You can't not being there. Also one of the stories of the year
Starting point is 00:08:01 that they've kind of fallen falling back to the pack, but oh, smash the numbers Ferris, but the SEC is only 500 in conference play. That's right. Now, we can say that about everybody. But there are some challenge situations coming up. I believe you get an ACC big 10 challenge situation coming up, believe next weekend. So the the since January 4, stats are going to change a little bit, but I just found it hilarious Looking at this this is from the actual NCAA men's basketball tournament committee
Starting point is 00:08:32 And it basically looks like the offseason football rankings we would do to piss people off like Even the way they did it like having Auburn ahead of Alabama now granted Auburn's been ahead of Alabama most the season Auburn did just beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa, but we would do it, the way we would do it is if Alabama had just beaten Auburn in the Iron Bowl, we would put Auburn ahead of Alabama just to piss people off.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So congratulations, tournament committee. You would make excellent internet trolls in the college football world, but I understand you are actually just going by the numbers in the basketball world. Speaking of numbers, these numbers right here matter quite a bit. 35 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals.
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Starting point is 00:10:30 on Wednesday, this week, they're going to talk about playoff format, there is a chance that they're going to talk about going to 14 going to 16 starting in 2026. And basically, they're in charge of this thing. They're taking this to everybody else. This is not for next year. this is for two years from now. And the 14 one is the one I would keep my eye on because I think it still keeps their conference championship games lucrative.
Starting point is 00:10:56 So the 14 team one would be four Big 10 teams, four SEC teams, two ACC teams, two Big 12 teams, one group of five team. I'm bad at math, but I believe that leaves one at large, which could be Notre Dame, could be somebody else. So that would be one potential outcome. A 16 team playoff that doesn't have any buys would be another one. I don't think that's the one they would go for. Also, something the SEC and Big 10 eighties, if you read what I wrote in October, I said, the Big 10 can help the SEC get more money from ESPN and get the SEC to add the ninth conference game, which is what the Big 10
Starting point is 00:11:36 has wondered, which actually is what a lot of the SEC wants, including Greg Sankey, by saying we will do a scheduling agreement with you, we will do a regular season challenge or regular just regular season games more of them featuring Big Ten and SEC teams. If you go to nine conference games, that is something the SEC can take the ESPN and say, hey, would you like Michigan and Ohio State to be on your air a little more regularly?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Well, this is how you can do it, but it's going to cost you. Other news in the world of college football. regularly. Well, this is how you can do it, but it's going to cost you. Other news in the world of college football. Philip Montgomery is being targeted by Virginia Tech for its offensive coordinate position according to ESPN's Pete Thamel. Philip Montgomery, of course, the longtime OC at Baylor under Art Briles was the Tulsa head coach and then didn't work out at Auburn that first year with you, Freeze, but that would be a little more. I'm going to give you a little more to fuel your day presented by Hewell. That would be a pretty radical shift in offense for Virginia Tech. So I would be interested to see what that looks like, because it would be the old Baylor offense, which is what you see Ole Miss run, which Mississippi
Starting point is 00:12:43 State runs it. You've seen it kind of proliferate when Dino Babers was Syracuse, he ran it. So you've seen it around now. It's hard to transition to that right away. So we'll see how Virginia Tech does with that. Kevin Wilson heading to Oklahoma as an offensive analyst, former Tulsa coach Kevin Wilson, but also from Oklahoma offensive coordinator was the offensive coordinator in the late aughts when Oklahoma had some of the best offenses in college football. Also, Kevin Wilson, one of the architects of the original great spread offenses, he worked with Randy Walker at Northwestern at the turn of
Starting point is 00:13:21 the century. He was on the ground floor of basically every offense you see today, there are seeds of that Northwestern offense that Randy Walker and Kevin Wilson ran. So Kevin Wilson helping out with Ben Arbuckle at Oklahoma, the new OC. Ben Arbuckle is 29 years old. He didn't turn 30 till week three. That's a nice little sounding board right there.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Also, one more piece of news. UConn went down to Columbia and beat South Carolina in women's hoops. I believe that is a 71 game winning streak at home, snap for the Gamecocks. So we'll see what happens the rest of this season, but I don't know if it's necessarily gonna be South Carolina just marching to the title again. Looks like there will be some resistance along the way.
Starting point is 00:14:10 No resistance, though, when it comes to RIP in Packs on this show, we are, of course, presented by Wendy's, but we also love our friends at Panini America because it is so much fun to open a pack, find a beautiful new card, and especially now that you can get the college players because that was one of the things that I couldn't do growing up. You know, I collected the baseball cards,
Starting point is 00:14:36 I collected the football cards, I collected the basketball cards, but it was all pro guys. I lived in Florida. My mom was from Alabama. My dad is from South Carolina. All we cared about most days was SEC football, but we couldn't get SEC football players in those packs. Well, now you can. And that's freaking awesome. So
Starting point is 00:15:01 let's rip some packs. Here's Cole. We welcome the great Cole Kubilic. You see him on ESPN. You hear him on the cube show. You also hear him on McElroy and Kubilic, Kubilic and McElroy on WJOX 104.5 in Birmingham, 94.5. Getting my call letters and numbers mixed up. But Cole, welcome. What's up fellas? How are we doing?
Starting point is 00:15:29 We have not had you on since the Pop Tarts Bowl. Oh. I have to ask. Basically is your life now you go to the grocery store, you go to wherever with your kids and people are like, Oh my God, it's the Pop Tarts Bowl guy. There were especially the first few days afterwards, it was a year the guy from the Pop Tarts Bowl.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And there are a couple of funny stories that go along with that. We had a sweet old lady at church, the first Sunday that I was back. And you can imagine that's probably the first Sunday that I'm at church in 20 weeks or so. Uh, and my wife runs our Sunday school class. So she manages all that by herself and she comes up to me and she says,
Starting point is 00:16:13 just want you to know pop tart from my go-to breakfast. Uh, I love unfrosted blueberry. They don't make them anymore. And I, I had just been on the website to try and familiarize myself with all the different flavors before the game in case we got into the conversation. I said, now hold on a second. I'm pretty sure they have those I can might be able to help you. And the director of marketing had just reached out about sending something to me and I said, if
Starting point is 00:16:37 you could throw in a couple unfrosted blueberry, please, for the sweet old lady at church, and we ended up taking her like 10 of the super sized packs of unf. And we ended up taking her like 10 of the super-sized packs of unfrosted blueberries. So I think she's set for the next two years on PopCharts. But yeah, it's like my kids were bummed out that I got my kids got like the gab watches. Andy, yours are probably past that.
Starting point is 00:16:58 R, yours are a little too young for that. They can text you and talk to you on their watch. We're like a year behind, but we wanted to wait. And so my son will just send me rows of emojis. Just, I mean, just like whatever ones he can type. And I get a voice message from him at halftime. I was like, I'm gonna go listen to that. And he's like, daddy, are you bringing that costume home?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Or are they gonna make it in that pack? And I was like, the important questions that we have at halftime of a competitive Pop Tarts bowl and so I did not think to play dad is Kim Ward gonna play in the second half? No, he didn't care. He's am I bringing that that costume home and I actually told that guy that my kids do not know that this is here but there it is right there. Oh II have that one as well in my house. My my daughter will occasionally just
Starting point is 00:17:43 grab it and and pop out in the pot. Like if friends are over, she will. She will emerge in the Pop Tarts costume because she thinks that makes her be coolest kid in school. We got like sunglasses. We got Pop Tarts towels like I mean we are living the Pop Tarts life here like this. Yeah, you're basically locked in. I think to like 10 years of Halloween costumes right there. I am waiting for the sickos uh at the Pop Tarts company to go like full Oreo. Have you seen uh those memes
Starting point is 00:18:12 of people are like, yeah, head into the grocery store now to see what those crazy psychopaths who make Oreos came up with this week. They have so many weird flavors. I think you could do that with with Pop Tarts too. Uh yeah and unfortunately for my waistline I'm a massive Oreo fan and I have not tried the Post Malone Oreos, which don't look great I did try like they're crumbled up or cookies inside the frosting during the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:18:36 Which were about an eight and a half out of ten. They were solid So I'm sure I'll be I'll be doing that at some point, but you're right are they don't go with like the crazy flavors Just yet. It's uh, yeah, yeah like they had pumpkin pie. We tried during the game Didn't think that was gonna be good. It was actually pretty good cookies and cream was a little bit too much It was a little heavy didn't I was Jordan liked it I wasn't a huge fan of it, but not that it was bad I'll just take wild berry and I'm good to go. That's all I need. Yeah, the one that blue frosted blueberry guy Okay, I like the the brown cinnamon sugar one That's all I need. Yeah. The one that blue frosted blueberry guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I like the brown cinnamon sugar one. That's also good. Now the key of us are going to be the non frosted crazies that are out there. Also. No. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like buying shirts?
Starting point is 00:19:16 Probably look through the depression or something and like frostings just too much. Yeah. I, uh, I like the wheels to come on the car when I buy it. I don't know what you know why you would do that. But yeah, the Sour Patch Oreo is something that I would be interested in. That was one of the weirder combinations that I've seen. Can I offer an unpopular opinion? I don't like hard cookies of any kind. I realize this may be hurting us with potential advertisers.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Hard cookies? Don't like hard cookies. Like even like Girl Scout cookies? I realize this may be hurting us with potential advertisers. Hard? Don't like hard cookies. Like even like Girl Scout cookies? Crunchy cookies. So you're saying you like oatmeal raisin, like the soft cookies. Like soft, but we're soft chocolate chip. Yeah, yeah. You're not a thin mint guy?
Starting point is 00:19:55 I do like thin mints out of the freezer. That's probably the one exception. Out of the freezer's way to go. Can you open a sleeve and not finish said sleeve is the question. No, not possible. The Girl Scouts were set up outside the house or like two houses down the other day. We drove by my daughter's like, oh, I'm going to go get something. I'm like, please don't because you know what's going to happen. So we have to before we get into football have a re fat admission here. So like what I would do,
Starting point is 00:20:27 yeah, what I would do with the Oreos would be, and I would eat a whole sleeve of Oreos back in my heyday. I would take a big cup of milk and then I would take half the sleeve of Oreos and just put it into the milk, let it sit for like five or six minutes and then eat it with a spoon. Andy, you should try that. See if
Starting point is 00:20:45 you can come around on the. Maybe I will. It's not real nice, but it's delicious. It's called Oreo. Producer River says, are you at this? You're out on Chips Ahoy? It's like, yes. Keibler soft batch back in the day. Those were. That's real legit. Keibler, pretty legit. Ari, I actually, somebody snuck me that we had a little challenge on the radio show a couple of years ago. Somebody said, could you eat a pack of Oreos in under five minutes? And I just laughed and said, five. Uh, I think I could get it done in under three.
Starting point is 00:21:16 And the person kind of DME he goes, Hey, here's your trick. Just pour the milk in the tray and you'll eat it so fast. They won't necessarily dissolve before you get going. So like a third of the Oreo. It just stays in the tray really nice for you right there and you just pull it out. Half of it is already soft and you go to town. I think I knocked him out in like a minute ten. Yeah. So you're talking about one sleeve, not the whole box, not the whole. No, the whole pack.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I ate the whole pack. The whole pack in a minute 10? Yeah. Yeah, it's unfortunate. Do you have video of this? It's out there somewhere. Yeah, I don't even want it for the show. This is one of my personal collection. Yeah, this is where Periscope was a real thing. So, I don't know if Periscope videos are alive anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Kind of like whatever the other thing we used to watch short videos on. I forget what that platform was called. It first came out. Vine. Vine. Vine. That's it. Yeah. I forget what that platform was called. It first came out. Fine.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Fine. Fine, that's it. Yeah. Ari does not comprehend the O-line stunt eating that can happen. Because Ari's not a vast quantity eater. No, but there is a part of me that can relate to this. And when I was in high school,
Starting point is 00:22:23 my friends thought it was a great idea to enter me in pizza eating contests and we wouldn't win. And my response to it always was guys, I like this. I would like to enjoy this. I don't need to jam it in as fast as I can. I want to savor this moment. Anytime I get good pizza, why would we rush through that? Now Oreos just happened to be something along the
Starting point is 00:22:45 lines of Krispy Kremes and a few other delicatess out there that I just happen to be able to knock down pretty fast. So when it was laid up in front of me as a challenge, I knew I probably did it pretty quickly anyway. So I was like, you know what, I could probably hit the gas and get down with that pretty quick. With Oreos, you're like that guy on the man show who could open his throat and just drop a beer in one gulp. Yeah, it's just one after another. It reminds me of those people who buy the Krispy Kreme donuts and stack them up
Starting point is 00:23:12 and then push them down with their body weight and then eat it like a burger. It's like 10 donuts at once. But the milk thing, you take a scoop of that. You put the whole sleeve into the cup. And then it was one of those remember like Harkins movie theaters or AMC when they used to give you those big plastic cups that would be for the it's like a
Starting point is 00:23:31 bus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is the vessel for the milk and the Oreos. And then you pour the Oreos in you let them the milk settle and then at the end when you're done eating the Oreos the milk is delicious. Oh, I'm just throwing two scoops of ice cream in there and hitting the. Yeah, that's a pay button. That sounds like a tremendous shake. All right. You'd have been proud Super
Starting point is 00:23:49 Bowl party at my house, which consisted of only my four other family members because I don't like to watch football with people. We had two different pizza orders in the house and wife wasn't feeling good. Usually she'll make it so she
Starting point is 00:24:03 don't want to make it. So we go to two different places and my daughter now wants the handmade pan or the deep whatever pan from Domino's. And so, I got cheesy bread and I said, have you just curious? Have you guys ever because I usually eat it all. I said, have you guys tried the cheesy bread before? No, no. So, seven-year-old, nine-year-old both get their first flavor, first taste of cheesy bread. Both thought it was amazing. Didn't want any more pizza, just wanted cheesy bread. And I was like, there you go, see?
Starting point is 00:24:29 You're a real veteran when you don't even get the pizza and you just order the cheese bread. That is where we're heading in our house, by the way. Because my daughter is on the cheesy bread train. I'm on the cheesy bread train. My son is the last holdout, but he's also trying to gain weight. So he's eating the pizza and the cheese. Never forget Ari. That man right there called you crazy for that. That guy
Starting point is 00:24:52 right there. I have apologized. He was right. This, this is the last take about cheesy bread, but it was the original take Cole. And it is, if you were to take that cheesy bread, but it was the original take-hole. And it is, if you were to take that cheesy bread, remove it from the packaging, like a fresh batch that's still warm and soft, put it on a tray, cut it up nicely, and put a toothpick in it, or do something to dress it up, and you put it on the table at a five-star restaurant,
Starting point is 00:25:17 it would be, people would say it's the best appetizer they've ever had, but because it comes in a Domino's box, people just go into it with the preconceived notion that it's not delicious. And it bothers me It's like a bear when he I don't know if you guys have seen the show at all Yeah, he gives him the little bitty Pequod's pizzas, which Pequod's pizza on pleasure
Starting point is 00:25:33 Oh, yeah, very good It's just like same thing if you were to give Pequod's to people at a fancy restaurant and say well This is from a pizza joint. They would say no, but if they just ate it They would say it's the most amazing thing they've ever had I agree well And that's like when you go to a barbecue joint in Texas and you get beef rib.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Now, beef rib is super expensive now because beef's just expensive. But back in the day when you could get the whole beef rib for like 20 bucks, you would cut that into 10 different pieces at a fancy restaurant and charge 49 bucks a plate for it. And then call it something obscure that it isn't like beef. Beef, come on, you know. We just call it like, well, you can. We'll call it short rib and yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Braised groin or something, I don't know. We just throw it out there. Braised groin. You know, whatever it is. The longer the name, the more expensive it is. But yeah, I am totally into the, that should be a good random ranking. Like foods that are cheap, that actually are underrated and delicious, and the only reason why is because of what
Starting point is 00:26:30 they come in their packaging. Fried chicken is the ultimate of that. Yeah, right. The ultimate. Like a bucket of Popeyes is some of the best food you can have. A bucket of Publix fried chicken, for those of you in Publix territory. Some of the best food period that you can buy, but because it's 9.99 for an eight pack, you know, we look down upon it. There are people out there that say, I don't like Domino's.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Those poor people. They say it like, like that's like, like that's like a normal thing to say and I know it's not the best pizza in the world. It's not like gourmet pizza, but like if you don't think it gets the job done and the cheesy bread scratches that that that itch then I don't there's no hope for you guys. Okay, that's a them problem. It's not exactly exactly. Alright, so we brought Cole in because Cole and Ari have bonded over their
Starting point is 00:27:25 love of sports cards, Rippin Packs. We did the Panini ads and we were ripping packs on the air. Cole was like, how do I get involved in this? And I thought about, oh, Ari's got cards. Ari's got lots of cards. So I thought, I thought, why don't we bring Cole on and as a way to get everybody excited about the 2025 season and also kind of help educate people on the players that are going to help define the 2025 season, we're going to imagine that we're ripping a pack. What do we want to get out of that?
Starting point is 00:28:06 Like what do we want to pull the most? Who's card do we want to pull? Now, I changed the rules a little bit because for those who don't know the card companies on in football only go with the skill guys but not always. We're we're getting a
Starting point is 00:28:22 little we're getting a little bit better guys getting in there. He is completely and utterly addicted like me and so much so that Cole, I've seen you. I'm already, I've seen you while I've been with you go on
Starting point is 00:28:36 streams watching Cole rep packs to emotionally support Cole. Yeah, I was uh that was at the National Title game and I want to do it more. But he is actually ripping packs and breaking. Yeah, because he's famous. So not only does he get to enjoy the hobby, but he gets to do what I would love to do one day, which is to be around, you
Starting point is 00:28:54 know, just to open the boxes and have people buy spots and and rip away. But like I mean, this is available for Ari. Andy, I told you he can come down to the principles in Birmingham anytime he wants. They'll give us a whole day to just rip a bunch of stuff and we'll have it to ourselves. So the invitations out there, all he's got to do is show up and I've been buying
Starting point is 00:29:14 uh, cards of national treasures of, of games that I covered or you know, people I covered and I just got this one here. This is Justin Fields. It's an only an eight and a half. I don't know if you could see it, but that's a national championship game patch number two there and that's the five like so we have
Starting point is 00:29:31 we have some some collegiate stuff over here to the national treasures from Panini is amazing. So but yeah, it's I think it's a really cool concept because in the card world, who you want to pull a lot of times is just based on who's worked the most, which is just quarterbacks. But like, I'm very curious because you and I have kind of been on the same page a lot of the way here on like trying to figure out who the best players returning are. And I did a list on Wednesday of 10 breakout candidates here that, and it's
Starting point is 00:30:01 like, who, who would you be excited to? Because you, you actually texted me the other day. i don't remember what we were texting about but you brought up deon burks as somebody that you thought could have a really big year and i went out and i bought a bunch of his big because they're cheap right now um and again it got me thinking like who are guys that you would maybe want to buy cheap uh that could be really expensive a year from now and that's somebody who came to mind so yeah yeah because we pulled, um, not this past week, but the week before we got
Starting point is 00:30:27 two Dion Burks to tens that we pulled. One was autographs. One was it. And the guys that got them weren't really excited. And I was like, folks, I'm just telling you like go watch Oklahoma spring game from last year. This kid wasn't healthy this year. He gets John Matier in there, a new offensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He's got a chance to completely blow it up this year because they'll hand in the ball. He'll get the jet sweeps going. They'll screen him. He can take it deep over the top. Maybe even some of the return game. Uh, I just think he's got a chance to have a massive season. Uh, and then I showed you a cake that I got and you brought up to Ari that like
Starting point is 00:31:00 he's kind of low right now with what people are looking at and how you can go get him. I don't know what it is. Like sometimes that's what was kind of unfortunate right now with what people are looking at and how you can go get him I don't know what it is like sometimes That's what was kind of unfortunate about being sports fans in general But specifically college football fans like we get these built-in perceptions The guys just aren't good or aren't gonna be good go look at club next numbers last year He was incredible last season legs. He's got a Williams back. The defense is gonna be good. Yep, you have weapons I think he's gonna have a massive year next year, too
Starting point is 00:31:26 So the big names you put up there like if you get anything that says Manning Specifically arts you're gonna be excited about that you get a Ryan Williams a Dylan Stewart a Jeremiah Smith I think you're excited about that. But yeah, I think it's cool to look at like Colin Simmons Yeah, I think Trey Moore is another guy that I've seen some people pull I think Trey Moore could lead the sec in sacks partially because he's got Colin Simmons on the other side of it. Like that's what Dylan Stewart might not have this year is no Kyle can art on the other side.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So Colin Simmons, Trey Moore, one of those guys could go completely bananas because they do have the other guy on the other side. And then I like to look at it too. So we all think Ryan Williams is incredible. We all think Jeremiah Smith is incredible, but who else has to be good if they're going to be good? Whoever's playing quarterback. So is it going to be Ty Simpson? Maybe that's a guy you could everybody's sleeping on right now that all of a sudden goes out here dirt cheap right now too. Yeah, Ty Simpson cards are dirt cheap. So, you know, you look at Ohio State's quarterback
Starting point is 00:32:23 situation, Julian saying you can grab some of his stuff. Not a lot of people talking about him. He could be somebody that you get now. And then obviously the value goes way up. So I think there's a couple of guys out there that the obvious ones, of course, are going to be valuable now and probably go up. But then there's a few that I think you could get that you look at all right, hold down for next year because that one could be big time. Andy, there's a quick story I wanted to tell you about Cole real quick though. Okay, you go to
Starting point is 00:32:47 your point, but he pulled an Abu sama super fractor, which is just like a gold vinyl, one of one player card out of a box. Right, Cole, you got it out of a box. Yeah, like that's a player who has a ton of potential. you know could have a breakout year and then that card becomes worth four maybe five figures depending on how good he gets. And it's like the Iowa State running back for this. Yeah right that's right and like how much time have we spent talking about him on the show probably not that much but like to have that card and to have that that piece of stock in that player like Cole you've got to be a big Sama fan
Starting point is 00:33:24 going into next year. Like that's a huge, you hope he rushes for 1500 yards. They bring Rocco Beck back, but those two receivers are gone. Higgins and Noel are gone. So Sama's probably going to have to be a very critical piece of that offense. Right. I don't think there's any doubt.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And you're going to have a pretty good offensive line. I think that group will be solid. Rocco Beck, I think, is better at managing the offense. I know there's negative connotation with that. So I'll say operating the offense than he is just throwing the ball around. Not that he's not good at that, but having them in the bowl game and hear Matt talk about him, the mental side is where he's best, which is advantage Abu Sama. You get the run looks that you want, he's going to get you to the right direction. He's going to get the right numbers to that side. So another reason I
Starting point is 00:34:10 think that he could have a big year next year. So I want to get back to the Birks thing because I find that really interesting. So I'm assuming there's some John Matier cards out there from Washington State. And now they're gonna get some from Oklahoma. But like Cole said with Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams, if Berks is good, Matias got to be pretty good too. Are we not looking at Oklahoma correctly? Because I feel like everything that happened last year
Starting point is 00:34:44 is sort of in a bottle. Like it's gone. It's it doesn't resemble what's going to happen this next year because they've changed everything offensively but I don't think that means all problems are automatically solved. I think maybe you have a better chance of solving said problems. The offensive line I don't think has been just solidified quite yet. You still want to wait to see how that's going to work, even though you'll be better at quarterback, more experienced at quarterback with a new system.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I think running back is going to be fine. Receiver is going to be fine, but you had a tight end that really came along last year that's now going to be playing at LSU that gave you the ability to move him. He was a bit of a matchup problem. Physicality got better throughout the course of the year and they were in games largely in part to their him. He was a bit of a matchup problem. Physicality got better throughout the course of the year and they were in games largely in part to their defense. Well, the two big leaders on defense are going to be gone at safety and linebacker. So, you know, Billy Bowman, Danny Stutzman not going to be there.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I think the defensive line, especially the interior could be pretty good, but you lose Ethan Downs and some of those guys off the edge. So there are other question marks, but I think some of those massive questions, concerns, or just flat out problems they had last year, one, injuries, receiver, offensive line, maybe you can overcome that. And then two, just not being able to move the football with quarterbacks that were capable of running all of your offense. If that goes away, Oklahoma's got a pretty good shot.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Plus I don't think anybody would be mad at Venables now calling the plays defensively. No, no. And you kind of knew that's where it was headed. I'm gonna throw one that I think in the town where I live, if I pull one of these, and I know there's autos of this guy floating around, there are not many, but if I pulled one, I would be the king of this town. DJ Lague. Yep. Cole, I haven't talked to you about him.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I feel like I've gone from being overly negative about Florida to maybe overly positive just because I watched this guy in person a bunch last year and I don't like it, it just feels different when he's out there. I'll steal this from Roman Harper. Uh, cause I don't mind giving him credit. We talked about him a lot, middle to late in the season last year, obviously, when he became the full-time starter and did some things that were beyond impressive, Roman said, I played with a guy that raised the level of everybody around them.
Starting point is 00:37:00 He said, I played with Drew Brees and drew was great, but drew was great at doing what he needed to do. And he said, now cam Newton, everybody played them. He said, I played with Drew Brees and Drew was great, but Drew was great at doing what he needed to do. And he said, now Cam Newton, everybody played better just whether they were all struck by what he was doing physically or wanted to try to keep up with him or just motivated about what he was doing. He just had that energy. Like he had that wife blood of everyone else is going to raise the level of their play. And he said watching DJ Lagway, I get that same kind of feeling. And like you said, Andy, when he's in the game, it's different and
Starting point is 00:37:32 it feels different on both sides of the ball. They're just not a lot of guys that I think we can describe that way. And there are some good quarterbacks coming back in college football next year. I don't know if I would step out on that limb for the majority of those guys. And you, you could also roll the conversation to if flagways having a good year, who's going to have a good year around him. Um, like I think Trayvon ball is a guy that I'm excited to watch on that Florida offense, 235 pounds that when he runs the football, it looks like
Starting point is 00:37:59 he weighs 205 pounds, so he'll be able to hand the ball off to him and that's going to offset some of the load. But whether it's the submarine sidearm throws off balance, off platform fadeaways, he's got the touch. That's one thing young quarterbacks that have played as little college football as he has do not have a feel for. And that's how to float the ball over a defensive lineman on a screen or float the ball down the sideline. Everything's a fastball because they want to prove how hard they can throw the ball. By the way, doesn't do that. He gets, okay, this is a crosser.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Take a little bit off. Give your receiver a chance to catch it. Let him go run and make a play. I love the kid. I do. I'm excited to watch him play this year. Um, you can say schedule, you can say some of the pieces around him. He's going to raise a lot of what's around him.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And therefore I think make Florida much more viable than a lot of people are talking about right now That's good to hear cuz Andy and I bought a lot of stock in them and we might go out of business if Florida loses four games Like Greg and I've been talking about this a lot for the last week on our show if I asked you guys right now You had the opportunity to push all your chips to the table for one team to win a national title, even make a deep playoff run. How
Starting point is 00:39:10 many of those teams would there be? There's, there's not one that just sticks out. We want to answer my question with your response there. Because normally it's like, well, Ohio State, Bama, Georgia, Clemson, Texas A&M, USC, whoever the players, Michigan. Okay. Oh, UNC is going to be really good this year. I'll throw them in there.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Okay. Maybe Miami. I, it almost feels like maybe none. Penn State, Penn State's a heavy, maybe for me. Clemson's a heavy, maybe for me. And then we get to real question marks. So everybody's talking about Florida schedule. Oh, it's so tough.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It's so difficult. Well, those teams on Florida schedule had the same questions that everybody else does. There's just, there's not a ton of overall confidence with anybody right this second. So therefore like LSU lost both tackles. They lost a bunch of receivers. All of a sudden, Harold Perkins is an every down player. We haven't really seen it yet. I, I, they lost pieces up front on the defensive line. They lost a guard. They haven't been
Starting point is 00:40:07 great at running back the last few years. I mean, who else do you want to pick on the schedule? Like there's, there's question marks everywhere. So I just think that these teams that were looking at their schedule saying, I don't know if they can get past that. All those teams have questions. It's just the same way. So I have to ask you this. I have to ask you though, is there a team that you would push her? Because there's a team that I would push all my chips in to be in the Final Four. If you're telling me to pick one right now, it would be Clemson. If you're making me do it for a different team, it would
Starting point is 00:40:35 probably be Penn State. And Penn State, I think, has less talent concerns or player concerns as they do maybe coaching concerns, big game concerns, if you will. So they're not even all about, you know, how many offensive linemen do you have, or do you have good receivers? Some of it is just what we believe that team's truly capable of or program's truly capable of. So those would be the ones right now that I would look at. I think there's a lot to like about Oregon, a lot to like about Texas, but I could also talk myself out of those teams in a heartbeat. lots like about Texas, but I could also talk myself out of those teams in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And what's yours? Who's yours? Well, Texas is one of them for me. Oregon would be another one. I like Notre Dame just because I think they're going to have the best offensive line in the country. And I think it, that's where everything starts anyway, but they have to replace some good players on defense. Now look, they had to replace those. A lot of those players during the season last year and did it capably.
Starting point is 00:41:30 So I feel pretty good about Notre Dame, but, but Texas and Oregon, probably like I do, like there's it factors. Sometimes Riley Leonard, it factor, uh, you know, Jack Kaiser, it factor Howard cross it factor Xavier Watts, it factor. And it's not to say that they don't have other good players, but third and two, how do you manage the pocket and find a way to get three yards? Uh, you're in coverage on third and five. Do you know when to come off and come tackle the running back out of the
Starting point is 00:41:59 backfield and let your man go? Like Xavier Watts knew how to do those things. And I talked to Al Golden at the sugar bowl. He's like, Hey man, we don't coach him to do all that stuff. He's just good enough to do it on his own sometimes. So now they're going to be more twitchy off the edge. Yes. As good or deep inside without Riley Mills and Howard cross, those two guys played,
Starting point is 00:42:17 but I don't know if they'll be as good. Jeremiah loves incredible. Like I'll take him over maybe any back in college football right now. But, and then we got to see the quarterback like in jelly came in in the orange was throwing darts. Here, my love's incredible. Like I'll take him over maybe any back in college football right now, but, and then we got to see the quarterback. Like in jelly came in and the orange was throwing darts. I talked to him after the game. It was super impressive. It's just sometimes you don't replace it guys with talent and it guys just can't
Starting point is 00:42:37 be replaced because they know situational football and they know how to get things done at a certain time and they want that on them and not every kid wants that moment on them. I'm every kid wants that moment on them. I'm glad you brought that up because Ohio State obviously has two it guys. Like if you're ripping a pack and you're pulling cards and you pull a Jeremiah Smith and a Caleb downs, you are so happy because it's possibly the best defensive player returning in college football and definitely the best offensive player returning in college football.
Starting point is 00:43:03 But the it guys conversation we just had Cole, like how many it guys did they lose in JTT and Jack Sawyer and Donovan Jackson and I think Will Howard might have been an it guy. Now, Quinshaw Judkins maybe. Yeah. I mean, look how and Trevion next to him, how they offset one another. How Will Howard sometimes leaned on his legs later in the season. Yeah, I mean look how and Trevion next to him how they offset one another how will Howard? Sometimes leaned on his legs later in the season Yeah, I think that maybe maybe even if you didn't categorize those guys as it guys
Starting point is 00:43:34 They would be for like a basketball perspective role players if you will Leadership guys glue guys. It's one of the I mean my son's seven So he doesn't really get this but like that's why I talk to him all the time about like run the floor, rebound, hustle, back people up in baseball. Like all those hard hat glue guy things are the stuff that nobody wants to do. So if you can go out there and do those things, you're going to put yourself way ahead of the curve if your ability is not on par with everybody else's. And that's what kind of some of those guys were also, I don't think it hurts
Starting point is 00:44:04 that they were inside the program for four and five years, um, and that's going to be what's so hard moving forward for teams like Ohio state is okay, cool. You got a bunch of five stars, but they need a year or two. Ohio state's guys mostly stayed and waited it out, developed within the program. Inherently. It means more inherently, you know more about the guy next to you. Inherently, you know more about the staff and the system and the scheme, and
Starting point is 00:44:27 you want to play harder for the guys next to you. All of those things show up in big games in big moments. And that's probably where I discounted Ohio state most and was most wrong about going into the playoffs is when you need to auto correct something, who do you want to have to be able to do that? It's not true freshmen all the time. It's not guys that just transferred in. I want guys who've lived it and breathed it.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I want guys who like Seth McLaughlin on my podcast told me about the Buckeye trees out there. I didn't know that it's one of the coolest traditions I've ever heard of now that I know about it. Like I want the guys who want a damn Buckeye tree out there. Like those are the guys that are going to be able to go fix it on their own and get it right on their own. Cause they're going to hold everybody else accountable and they're going to
Starting point is 00:45:10 give you everything that they have to be able to get that done also. And I don't know the exact term or phrase for those guys. Veterans is the only thing I can think of, but you're going to need some of those too, if you're going to be able to get it right and Notre Dame had veterans last year, I think they have talent. There's no doubt they have ability. It's just to win where we are now to get there and then to do what Ohio State just did, you kind of have to have all of, and I don't know, I don't know what the, if
Starting point is 00:45:35 we slice the pie up, which percentage you need more of, but you got to have some MFers that can just play better than everybody. You got to have some glue guys. You got to have some vets, you know, some, some heart guys, some meaningful guys that just can sort of paint the picture for everybody else of what it means and what it's going to mean the rest of your life that gives you some extra want to. You got to have some role players. Like you got to have a little bit of all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:57 If you're going to do it, Ohio State just did. And that's how the game has changed guys. Like if this conversation was happening five years ago in hearing what you were saying Cole like my eyes would have rolled all the way to the back of my head because to me it was always like how many good players do you have but it's like now the Notre Dame's of the world you're absolutely right it's a mixture of both and when the teams are more evenly situated from a talent perspective it's the team that has the safety that knows exactly how to make a play that turns the game. Yep. And Notre Dame probably used to be all glue guys and no super talents. Now they've got super talents and glue guys, because they're super talented, five star prospects played into their fourth year in the program.
Starting point is 00:46:47 And that's not something you've even seen at Ohio State, not just even before last year ever. Like it was like, wow, I used to think when I was covering them that if you made it to year four, you stunk. If you're not in the NFL after three years and you didn't do your job. It's like the old like we were in John Chavis when he was LSU's defensive coordinator back in the Les Miles era. And he says after a game, he he's like we recruit you to be here for three years like I think he'll say the same thing. I want to call him like in 2015 of like Ohio State should never redshirt anybody again because if anyone's on the team for four years it's a waste of a roster spot. That was urban's attitude. I mean my freaking said that he
Starting point is 00:47:24 said that when he took the Florida job, he's like we're not redshirting anyone anymore. If you've redshirted, it's because something went wrong like you got hurt or something because we want you to play and be gone in three years. Yeah, so you know, and like it turns out. Like that's wrong. I mean, what is now with an IL where there's a possibility.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Jack Sawyer could have existed during the Urban Meyer era and had the same exact career arc and he played by far his best football in the last four games of his career after four years. Like that's not a very typical thing. You don't usually see players come out and play their best at the end because when it took that long for the light to turn on. And I feel like that happened with a few of Ohio State players this year. But Jack Sawyer was at Ohio State because Ohio State could make it financially somewhat close to what Jack would have made as a rookie in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:48:17 He might have left. You're right. Like five years ago, he probably would have left. And that's the difference. After the third year. So but yeah, that is the difference. what about that for the third year? So, but yeah, that is the difference. So, Cole, I, I get the sense from hearing you talk about Clemson, that you think they may be one of those veteran heavy teams. I am very high in Clemson as well. I have been preaching since, well, since the house settlement, like, OK, if they're doing revenue share, Dabo is going to have money now. Watch out because this is going to get, they're going to get real good again. But it's also because you still have to be able to recruit while out of high school and develop. Yep. And they never got away from that. Like they still do that better than almost anybody. people say that it's dipped the last couple, I don't follow recruiting enough to be an expert on this. So the people in the comments want to correct me. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I'm not up to speed on it really, but people have told me that, Oh, they've been outside the top 10 the last couple of years, or they had a class outside the top 15, so they haven't been the same, but even if the last two classes were that the proven commodities that are coming back are on par with anybody in college football, The defensive lineman, the receivers, the running backs, the quarterback, that's on par with just about anybody anywhere. So when I see those high level guys and know what they're gonna bring with some depth, I feel pretty confident about what they're gonna be able to do,
Starting point is 00:49:38 especially in that conference. And then on top of that, you've gone to the portal now to get a couple of guys. And I realized the response to that will be, well, that's not a frontline starter. That's not an all-American candidate. Where we have seen the portal be almost more beneficial is being able to get you through two quarters of football or two series of football or two weeks of football and not have this massive drop off like Alabama did when Jayden Roberts got hurt or Georgia did when Tate Ratledge went down. I mean, we're seeing more teams when one guy goes down, all of a sudden just completely change who you are.
Starting point is 00:50:13 That's where I think the portal can be as, or more beneficial than just going to get in this frontline starter. Cause not everybody's going to be able to get those because that's a bidding war. Not everybody has the money to go get those guys, but if you can bring someone in who all of a sudden, okay, plug player B in, he's played a ton of football. He's not going to go the wrong direction. He's not going to drop the pass because he understands what it takes to be able
Starting point is 00:50:34 to make that happen. He's not going to blow the coverage in our secondary. And you survive that two either series or two game stretch because you have a veteran in there. That's where I think it can help. And if Davos just going that route, maybe that's beneficial enough to put them into the playoff again and make a little bit more of a run. And then you've got a go to receiver, a quarterback
Starting point is 00:50:54 that's a gamer that can go out and win it for you, a takeover defensive lineman that maybe can be enough for Clemson to find a way to win a national title. Yeah, it's an club, Nick, which you talked about before. I think he has, I don't know if it's he's blossomed that Garrett Riley figured out how to unlock him last year. I didn't realize he was as talented with his legs as he is. I would imagine the coaching staff knew that, but maybe didn't want to turn it loose because they were about getting hurt But he's so effective when he can run the ball because it makes him a better thrower There's no doubt and just think about what that does to defense
Starting point is 00:51:34 The guys that we saw in the playoffs We mentioned Will Howard how he turned it on late and all of a sudden it felt like they waited until the championship game And just said you know what screw it if he gets banged up He gets banged up like we got to run him because of the looks we're getting. Uh, you think about what Riley Leonard was able to do. Uh, when Gunnar Stockton came in for Georgia, be at the SEC championship game, a couple of massive runs now got knocked out in one of them, but he made those plays with his legs where you're going to either keep a drive
Starting point is 00:51:59 alive or you're going to go get a first down or you're going to get points and not give the other ball of the team, the football and make things happen. And plus the, the numbers game that people have to adjust to for that being a part of what you do is always going to be dangerous enough to give you those advantages. Let me look at Philadelphia and the Superbowl. I mean, Jalen hurts his legs were massive on design runs and him just leaving the pocket.
Starting point is 00:52:20 So very, very hard for him Like he's dangerous with his legs. Like he can, he can break a defense now. Yeah. So the card companies don't do the offensive lineman Cole. I know that this is a little bit better. I think we got a couple, a couple. The one I would want to pull this year is Spencer Faneu from Utah. He's going to be a junior this year. He's their right tackle number 55, 6'6", 300 pounds. This is a guy who, his brother plays for Utah. His brother's an edge rusher for Utah. Everybody wanted Spencer. He ended up staying home and playing for Utah. And he's just like, it's fun watching him. Because, Colette, I don't know how you feel about when you're watching
Starting point is 00:53:09 offensive lineman. I love the ones that look like they're just an athlete, or like a, you know, like a linebacker that you just you had the printer and you moved it up to like 150% size. That's what that that's what he is. Like he's just a he's just an athlete moving gracefully at 300 pounds and then mauling people. It doesn't happen a lot. Um although I'm gonna probably go Charles Jaggesaw at Notre Dame. Uh what position? It doesn't matter. That's what I love about him. That's why I want him. We can plug him in a guard and he's gonna pull out there and knock people on their rear ends. Or if he needs to go at tackle, he'll be fine out there at tackle.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Not to mention interviewed him at the Orange Bowl after the game and dropped an F-bomb on SiriusXM. So that just fits right into what we need as our offensive lineman. But he just got that nasty about him. The finisher inside of him that you love to see, wants to try and make somebody pay on every snap. That would probably be the offensive lineman that I would go for this. If it was last year, it'd be Will Campbell or Tyler Booker, one of those two, LSU Alabama. But going into this year,
Starting point is 00:54:15 I think Jaguishah will probably be the old lineman that I would chase. Yeah, the play where he pulls from right guard, which remember, he was supposed to be the starting left tackle. Yep. He came back and was playing some guard because that's where he felt like he get on the field of fastest. He comes in the game because their right guard got hurt. Rocco Spindler got hurt the, the pole and he hits, I want to say DDS and, and start celebrating before Riley Leonard crosses the goal line. It was incredible.
Starting point is 00:54:46 It was like hitting a home run. You know how that feels. Like you know what a good block feels like right away. So you can you can give it a little bit of a walk off if you need to. But yeah, he's I mean, I didn't realize he was as massive as he was either. Seeing him getting up next to him after the game, just a huge kid. And I saw him at the Sugar Bowl. And I always walk down to watch the offensive lineman warm up.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And all of a sudden I see because they had their names on the back of the jerseys in the bowl games. It's like Jackie saw the hell's he doing out here and I had to like sprint to the SID and ask her I said is he playing she's like well available but emergency situation and then the way I saw him in warm-ups when they won that game. I was thinking all right, maybe he'll be able to a little bit and then obviously was a massive help.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah. Yeah. I'm so excited about that offensive line. Like when you have the starting center and the starting right guard from the national championship game hit the portal because they might not have jobs next year, you got some talent. It is interesting too, Andy, because it's like my team, Texas, like their, their offensive line is replacing a ton of talent, you know, like it's like, do you go with the team that has the ready-made offensive line that's ready to go or do you go with the team that has a bunch of awesome skill players that has a bunch of linemen to replace?
Starting point is 00:55:52 Well, let's talk about this because my feeling on Texas in the offensive line is that Texas has been a program that if they have what they feel as a whole, they go fill it in the portal. Yep. They did not aggressively go after offensive linemen in the portal, which tells me they like what they got. I think they do because if you looked at the majority of the guys, some of the guys that started on this offensive line, like Jake majors was there when Sark got there, then you go get a DJ Campbell, you go get a Kelvin banks and those next two classes, I believe it's 22 20, 22 and the 23 class. Yeah. They, they said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:28 We we've got to load up and Sarks told me before, like we knew we were going to the sec, we knew we had to recruit the trenches in a little bit of a different way. Um, and it was just, it was an emphasis point and something that they had to do. Uh, I've talked to Taylor Searles about it, who's their director of recruiting. And she's like, we knew where we were going. And it was an, it was an obvious emphasis point to get bigger and stronger. And Sarko tell you, like, we like big humans around here.
Starting point is 00:56:49 So I think they do like some of their young guys that they've got. And you got a Cole Hudson coming back. That's played a lot. It's a veteran, even though he hasn't been a full-time starter, a guy that'll get after it, they can be very physical. So I, but I do think that that's the biggest question mark along with tight in because Gunnar Helm was massive for that team last year. Good blocking, catching the ball, run after the catches where he got better and
Starting point is 00:57:12 Sark moved him a ton also. So tight end is something that I think Texas has to find here before the regular season begins as well. This guy's just an encyclopedia of college football knowledge, isn't he? And he. Throw it out, boom. No, we should test Cole, just like have him name the starting five offensive linemen for every SEC school because he could like easily. I don't know about right now. That portal will get you. Yeah, I'll let you wait until after spring practice till the two deep settle down. Yeah
Starting point is 00:57:50 Once the season starts I could give it to you but now okay, but let me ask you this This has been a popular topic of conversation on the show Ari Ari let let us know that his civic knowledge wasn't necessarily up to what? up snuff So here's a question that we asked him the other day on the show. He did not answer correctly. Do you know the three branches of the federal government? Plus, we're gonna go military there. And I felt really good about that.
Starting point is 00:58:18 You would have forgotten the Space Force. That's a real thing. Now forgot about that. It is. It is not a Netflix show. Federal, state. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that Cole and I are like, we were separated at birth. We were in the womb together. Here's the thing, like, you don't, well, Cole, Cole got all the good nutrients, I think. But- He did, yeah. I got the card. You don't have to know this stuff to be a functional adult.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And I think that's what Ari's point has been all along. Like, you can be a functional adult in society. Successful adult. Exactly. He's proven it.. I don't need to know so It's like the other day my my wife usually helps with homework for obvious reasons. My wife was graduated with honors from Auburn and was top of her class out of high school and Things that I'll never be able to say about myself and my daughter's doing fractions she's in fourth grade and she's
Starting point is 00:59:28 like I'm gonna need you to help her with the homework I gotta go do this and this I'm like okay cool let's get this out here and the problem states that they are they are disintegrating fractions and yeah I was like, well, wait, wait, like I've watched enough, like 60 minutes and Dateline to know, oh no, it's decomposing. I'm sorry. Oh, decomposing fractions. And I was like, yeah, I've, I've listened to enough murder podcasts to know that decomposition and math are not the same. I can tell you how a body decomposes because I've got the body farm up there in Knoxville and I've
Starting point is 01:00:07 heard Tom Hart tell us about that during a game. I was gonna say anytime there's a blowout in Tennessee, you have to mention the body farm. Well, there's our words were off. I don't know if you're the one telling me this in an Uber once Andy, but I was having a conversation that apparently they're just teaching kids math differently than they taught us like the process of solving the problems is completely different than what we grew up learning. So like as an adult, when you start trying to help your kids with homework, it's like a completely
Starting point is 01:00:32 foreign thing to you that doesn't have any muscle memory because it's different. It seems to go away as they get older. There may only be like one way to teach the higher up math, but yeah, the basics. So when my kids were in elementary school, I remember like at one point I just stood up from the counter and threw my hands up like, I don't care how your teacher taught you to do it. I got mad the other day at how they, they're, they do handwriting because you're going to have to, you're not the picture. This is kind of hard.
Starting point is 01:01:03 My daughter wrote a G and she started from the bottom of the loop and did the hook up and then did the G on the top and I was like, wait, what are we doing? That's sick. What are you talking about? And I said, it can be one motion. You do the circle and you come down. Why are we making this hard?
Starting point is 01:01:20 This is not hard. I said, because if you do the A the exact same way, except you just don't bring the fish hook down, like, yeah, a is the same as the G that comes down like some consultant that justified their their salary and their existence. Like I know we're gonna have a new way to write the G. Yeah, no, like somebody somebody made $157,000 in a year off of that. Like somebody somebody made a hundred fifty seven thousand dollars in a year off of that Somebody also let Chandler Cox take snaps on offense a lot of times and do somebody said let's start the baton bouta against Florida
Starting point is 01:01:59 One of the people involved in that decision is now the head coach of Dallas Cowboys. All right Cole it's been wonderful. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate you guys having this fun conversation. So, always, always love talking cards and I always love talking to you guys, talking some football. Well, we
Starting point is 01:02:16 got, is that your biggest hit recently? That's uh I've had this one for a while. That's a one on one Garrett Wilson uh shield gold vinyl. Okay, I've gotta go. Yeah, I do. I I got Trevor Lawrence right here. I got a lot of I got what's your biggest goal recently. I have been very cold recently, unfortunately. I've just been like, yeah, but yeah, it's great having you on as always.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Cole. I appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Rocha Common Core math math, laugh out loud. This was Singapore method that I was railing against, but Common Core say pretty much the same problem. But that was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. So Panini America back on board with us. We're ripping packs.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I've got some prison packs that we're going to rip this week. Thanks to Cole. That was awesome. I do love talking football with Cole. We're going to have some fun shows this week. So, Ralph Russo from the Athletic will be joining us later. I am declaring him the ombudsman for our show because he listens regularly and is frequently texting to argue with me and Ari about shows that happened three days earlier that we've completely forgotten. So we're gonna let him come in
Starting point is 01:03:27 and evaluate our first season. So that'll be later in the week. Tomorrow, Ari and I are gonna talk about what is the playoff gonna look like because the SEC and the Big Ten getting together in New Orleans on Wednesday, the ADs will be hashing things out because of the timing of everything.
Starting point is 01:03:44 They gotta make some decisions here. And so we will see what things might look like. I had a column come out on three where you could ask one key question to determine how things might look in the future. No offseason, no offseason, folks. It never stops. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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