Andy & Ari On3 - How many QBs are getting picked in the first round? Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders? Jaxson Dart?

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

We’re excited to announce we’ll be hosting Andy & Ari On3 LIVE from the Draft in Green Bay on Thursday, April 24 and Friday, April 25! We’ll be set up right outside the famous Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field at the Culver’s Great Wisconsin Tailgate. Born in Wisconsin, Culver’s is the home of the legendary ButterBurger, Fresh Frozen Custard and Wisconsin Cheese Curds—there’s no better representation of America’s Dairyland than that. We’ll have some very special guests throughout the Draft that you won’t want to miss, so stay tuned for more details and get ready for a weekend of fun, made fresh with our friends at Culver’s: https://go.culvers.com/culvers/sAkHC(0:00-3:48) Intro: LIVE from Green Bay(3:49-6:17) Previewing the draft tonight(6:18-14:00) How many QBs get drafted tonight?(14:01-16:55) Thank you to Culver's(16:56-19:33) Tetairoa McMillan's Draft Stock(19:34-26:59) Where will Travis Hunter go?(27:00-36:55) Ashton Jeanty's Draft Stock, Scene in Green Bay(36:56-43:42) Arkansas Collective seeking ~$200K(43:33-55:37) House v NCAA settlement update(55:38-1:02:26) Conclusion It’s Draft day, and Andy and Ari are live in Green Bay! We know who is going first (Miami QB Cam Ward) and we’re pretty sure who is going second (Colorado WR/CB Travis Hunter), but what happens after that is anyone’s guess. How many QBs will go in the first round? The sports books have set the total at 2.5. Does that mean Ward, Shedeur Sanders and someone else? Could Louisville’s Tyler Shough sneak in? Plus, Andy has some advice for the teams considering receivers: Don’t overthink it. Arizona’s Tetairoa McMillan was the only weapon on a bad team and still put up huge numbers. We also have quite a bit of college football news to discuss. The collective at Arkansas wants to collect a reported $200,000 from Madden Iamaleava after the freshman quarterback left last week to join his older brother Nico at UCLA. Meanwhile, the federal judge overseeing the House v. NCAA case issued an order Wednesday saying she’d blow up the proposed settlement if the NCAA doesn’t phase in roster caps to keep athletes from getting cut from their teams because of the settlement.  Want to watch the show instead? Join us LIVE, M-F at 9:30 am et: https://youtube.com/live/Tx5rErtRQhc Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Want to partner with the show? E-mail [e-mail]

Welcome to Andy and Ariane three. We are here in green bed Thursday morning. The draft is tonight. It's happening right back there. The Culver's great Wisconsin tailgate is happening right back here. This is going to be behind us is basically going to be a mini Culver's restaurant. There will be butterburgers, there will be frozen custard, there will be cheese curds.

And when those burgers arrive, I will not be sitting here. So yeah, we're going to be doing some crowd work at that point. We have to be live, but we're going to make produce the river. Just follow us around with a camera. And by crowd work, you mean just like me eating everything pretty much, pretty much. Thanks. He says, I'm very disappointed in your decision. takes me and PD says. I'm very disappointed in your decision Oreos and Skittle.

We can always have both. This is a poll I put up on Twitter about what frozen custard I should get. And he's right. I couldn't have both. Well, I am pretty fired up to be here. The draft is an annual thing that everybody looks forward to. I love to see how the players that we covered in high school turned out I like to see the sleepers like we're gonna talk about all that stuff But like being here is my first time in Green Bay It is pretty magical place. Honestly. Oh, yeah, it's pretty cool

So so humbled and grateful to be here you and was on three and let's have a show man. Let's do it. Let's do it. I got a tweet that I was tagged on this morning and it's a great place for us to start today because we're going to talk about quarterbacks anyway. But we're On3, we rank recruit. That's what we do. And every draft you get this. And it's especially poignant this draft because of who the number one pick's gonna be. We already know Cam Ward's gonna be the number one pick. So I got tagged in a tweet about how Cam Ward was the zero star recruit in the class of 2020

who went to incarnate Ward coming out of a wing tee offense and DJ Uehangla was a five star. Everybody wanted him, he went to Thompson and he's gonna be undrafted and it's the tweet is basically this is your annual reminder to run your own race blah blah and i want to be like that's cool but like two-thirds of the guys to get tonight were going to be four or five star recruits yeah i think it's the annual thing that bothers me as the Yeah, I think it's the annual thing that bothers me as the are still current Mr. Stars Matter. Yeah. Is that if you look at how many players five stars are drafted or even players in the top

100 who are drafted on an annual basis, that's a hundred people. The rest of the draft is the world. You know, like, there's going to be, you know, a lot of players who aren't in the top 100 taken just because of just how math works. And I'm a bad at math person. I would think if you have every human being that plays football on one end of the spectrum and players that we rated highly on the other half and the, the, and that's only a hundred people.

And there are a lot of those hundred players being taken. There's a direct correlation. And like the thing that I just don't understand, Andy, is like, you know, I know that the world of college football has changed and the team started to put like, how is recruiting and recruiting rankings just not an infallible fact to people at this point? Like, why are we still debating? Like it happened. Every five star doesn't pan out. Every first round drafted kick doesn't pan out because life happens. But on the in the aggregate, recruiting rankings are pretty accurate. And honestly, too, like recruiting rankings are often predicated on who the biggest, strongest, fastest freaks are. It's like, why do I have to explain or do you have to explain to people that being a big, fast freak is more advantageous to football.

People want that story. People want to think that everybody can do it. And the fact is not everybody can't like him ward was more of the victim of circumstance, I would say than anything else. He played in a wing. He evaluated, right? They don't run away anymore. Nobody does in Texas.

Texas runs a bunch of spread offenses. You evaluate right they don't run knowing me anymore Nobody does in Texas Texas runs a bunch of irritates me more than anything is Like Kim Ward story is amazing Like why can't we just talk about how amazing Kim Ward story is why does it have to be in the same sentence as somebody? Flamed out right Kim Ward can be incredible and inspiring and awesome in his own story without it being a black mark against recruiting ranking. Like it doesn't it doesn't because he had a great one or a great journey. Doesn't mean that recruiting rankings aren't important or don't work like both

can be true, you know, so it's just like every year. I used to run this story every year. I don't know if there's somebody on three will do it where I would like add up the stars of the first round draft picks and unequivocally, it's like 35% of the first round are highly rated Rocknecks, which is a pretty good conversion rate when you think about the hundred versus thousands. There's like, there's over 2500 new players in the FPS every year. And like Ken Ward wasn't and The other 2000 people are lower than half. Some of which may have late growth spurts, some of which may have gone to small high schools in rural areas and go to camps, some of which might have been mis-evaluated.

There's a lot of different reasons why players, sometimes the players that get ranked the highest two are the ones that are most exposed. It's not an infallible system. And when you think about the millions that play high school, there are absolutely going to be players who slip through the cracks, much like there are players who slip through the draft cracks. Oh yeah. Like there are players that are on draft. I mean, a starting quarterback in the NFL... Was Mr. Irrelevant.

...in the Super Bowl was Mr. Irrelevant. So like, you know, I don't think that there's ever going to be a system that's able to identify which human beings are going to be the best football players, but the ones that are six, five are on four, three forties and do things that other human beings can't do as a pretty good starting point. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Now the quarterback situation is so interesting to me. I was going through the different sports book apps this morning and looking at the odds right now they've set the total for for quarterbacks draft in the first round at two and a half and you can actually get it minus odds on the over you know the shocks me over is the favorite there that shocks me and I don't know who they're going to be but I do think that

Chidor Sanders is draft positioning now at 21 and a half is very interesting. But the thing that I think is most interesting and the thing that we talked about a little bit this morning and I've kind of been in the highlight reel Twitter rabbit hole is Tyler Shook's rise. Because this is a person that's been around college football for a long time. I don't think that when he entered college football

I hadn't started podcasting yet. And, and he was Justin Herbert's backup at Oregon as a freshman and same recruiting classes. You said as Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence who were going into what year four they're in their second contract. Um, so, but at the same time, like has had injuries throughout his career, I think one full healthy season, this one, um, and it was year, it was a pretty good year, but like Louisville wasn't that great. We didn't talk about him that much. And now he might sneak into the first round.

And I think that, you know, Jalen Milrow too, to that same extent is the star player that we talked about every week because he played in Alabama and was playing in important dramatic games, might also find a way to sneak in. So I don't know, it'll be one or the other. I don't think it'll be both.

No, I think you're missing one. I think you're missing one who might sneak into the first round. Jackson Dart. OK, if it's three, my guess is it's Cam Ward. Chador Sanders and Jackson Dart, and obviously I don't know what order Chador and Jackson Dart go in. Interesting. That's what I think. But shook is a possibility, too, if it's if it's I don't think it's gonna be more than that.

But I think those would be the three but Tyler shook thing is fascinating to me because it is possible that he's better in the NFL than he was in college because you know, usually when people have a checkered injury history, it's the same injury happening over and over again for the same knee ligaments same type of three bone breaks, two of our collarbone, but three bone breaks to collarbone and one I believe fibula so broken leg. Those cost him entire seasons. And like one of them was game one of one of those seasons in the Texas Tech. So like we didn't get to see a full season of him as a starter until this past year. Yeah.

So I don't know. The injuries not scares the crap out of me. Yeah. But then I also don't know like what's more concerning from an NFL standpoint. Somebody who's had multiple ligament tears or somebody's had multiple bone breaks. I think the ligament tears are more scary because the bone break seems random. Like I didn't go to medical school, as you know, but also to there seems to be this thing with certain players where they are just more injury prone.

And I don't know if it's because their bodies just aren't made up to be hit that way, the way others are, but like if you have bone breaks consistently, too, does that mean that you're more likely to break your bone again or they just? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, that's the crazy part. So we'll see with him Jackson dart. I feel like we haven't really talked about that much. Yeah. He had a great career at Ole Miss. I think the Florida game left such a bad taste in some people's mouths at the end. Cause I thought was this team should have been in the playoff. He had a horrific fourth quarter of that floor again.

Yeah. And I remember as I was at that game, we into the interview room afterwards, seeing Jackson Dyer and he was devastated. Well, the thing that was that sticks out to me about that game and even more than the play was the demeanor on the sideline of the game. Yeah. Because you could tell he was devastated before the game was over. He was devastated on the bench.

But he had to go out there. Yeah. Cause you could tell he was devastated before the game was over. He was devastated on the bench. Yeah. So like, you know, but again, I don't have, I actually don't have a problem with that. Cause I, I, I'm fine if you care, like caring is okay. It's not about, it's not about not caring and caring. It's about whether or not you take yourself out of the game emotionally before it's over. That I thought was interesting. But like, you know, Jackson Dardspin on the show. He's a good kid. He had a great career, very productive passer. But like, as we always talk about on the show to Andy, it's like, how do you properly evaluate a quarterback and why is everybody constantly wrong? It's like, the thing that is interesting is that Jackson Darden, Tyler shook and the

door and all these guys are going to go but like the odds are that maybe only one of them is going to be a good NFL player. That's how it usually pans out. And the Jackson guard discussion is interesting because we have not gotten into this. We got into it last week with the Nico discussion with Nico going to UCLA and Nico's camp saying, hey, it wasn't about the money. It was about the office that Tennessee runs. Well, Jackson guard runs an offense fairly similar to that.

There are the Ole Miss offense that Lane Kiffin runs has a lot of the same roots as the Baylor or Riles offense that all the NFL people are crapping all over. So can somebody from that offense get in the NFL and be successful because somebody's got to open the door for all the other TVs in that offense. Yeah, but when you talk about quarterbacks, Andy, it's got to open the door for all the TVs and that often. Yeah. But when you talk about quarterbacks, Andy, it's like, what do you think's the most important thing? Arm strength, accuracy, intangibles, makeup. Yeah. Experience like all these processing and accuracy for me. Those are the two most important things. Which is why I'm not so low on Chador. Like I thinkidor should be first round quarterback.

I don't know. So I, you know, I saw that tweet that went viral yesterday about how he has a terrible interviewer or whatever, but it's just like the guy was pretty productive and they, and an offense that didn't have a great offensive line. I thought he did really well under pressure. A lot of things to like about him, but like now it's like, there's a chance he might slip out of the first round entirely tonight. Yeah. a lot of things that like about him, but like now it's like there's a chance he might slip out of the first round entirely tonight. Yeah, and and I think a lot of it is people just like talking about your and Dion and we do too. We're guilty of this

Yeah, I mean his drop positionings 21 and a half like if you would have said that like if you would have taken that a month ago, oh, yeah, he was supposed to be a top five Yeah, but You know, I, and I've said, I, other than Kim war, I wouldn't be particularly comfortable taking anybody in the first round bottom of the first round. I am a little more comfortable because that person doesn't necessarily have to come in and start. Yeah. I feel like we had taken the first half of the first round. The way it works now is they're going to throw it

in there. They're going to make you go with panic last year, but it's the same thing in the NFL and is it in college players are more apt to play as freshmen. More experienced perhaps in our better. Yeah. And it's funny because I think back to some of the conversations we've had this off season about freshmen quarterbacks, like the Bryce Underwood plan at Michigan was, and it's probably not going to go this way, he's probably gonna have to start week one. But the plan was Mikey Keene starts until Bryce Underwood's ready to start.

Not necessarily start all this all season. Yeah, that's kind of what the Falcons did last year with Kirk Cousins and Michael Pettix. Yeah, there's not a lot of sitting and marinating anymore. So that's just kind of the way it goes. Yeah, I am really interested though, because if it does get the three QBs drafted in this first round, I will be pretty shocked. And I'm surprised that's the favorite. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know that it'll be shocked. I'd be shocked because I think that if Chidor Sanders is still sitting there because in some of these mock drafts, I'm looking Chidor is not a first round pick. And it's like if Chidor is sitting there at 29, someone's going to probably trade up. Trade up again. That's the thing, like all these mock drafts can't accurately project who's going to do what. And if people viewed him as a top five pick at one, I'm assuming the teams are going to find him to be a tremendous value in the late 20s. Especially if he's not the second quarterback taking off the board. Yeah. Yeah.

Ari, we are here in Green Bay. The great Wisconsin tailgate is going to be happening behind us. We got the giant corn hole set up. We got breaking it down. Oh yeah. It was good. Culver's kitchen is going to be here. We're going to have Butterburgers, cheese curds, frozen custard, and as it turns out, the best thing, Andy, we are in the frozen country. It is freezing here. I don't know, but when these it's not that bad. But the one thing that I think warms the soul a little bit. Yeah, frozen custard, right? Like that one of yours, because what it does is it tests your internal organs with extreme cool and then your body has to adapt

to it and then it warms up naturally. Exactly, now I am, Culver's is down where I live now where it's very hot and the frozen custard on a hot day you cannot beat. But I like some cheese curds on a cool day. And I've had the pleasure of that today. And I'll take this this I'll buy on this this hill Forever I live in the fast food the best fast food city in America and like there are a bunch of culvers where I live

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This is amazing over on a playdate with a buddy last week and we were talking So you're going to Green Bay for the draft and I was like, yeah, I was like Culver's the sponsor of the show So they're gonna bring us out. He was what's Culver's I was like what? You gotta learn so he went he went in Dallas after I told him to go and he told me it was all it was electric You know, it is it is a very very Expansive menu very good and very underrated. Well, we're gonna have Basically a Culver's mini restaurant here behind us. And so if you are in Green Bay for the draft, come on by, we're gonna be here all afternoon. And you can use what's right behind us as like a land.

Yeah, if you wanna know where we are, we're right there. There's some of the points of emphasis. So like you can just like look right across the street or over here and I think our truck is gated in here. So we're gonna be here for the duration of the day. I'm excited. Yeah, all right, can I go on my rant now? Yes, please, I've been waiting 24 hours.

You went on it already with me. Yeah, I want the people to see it now. All right. I have been somewhat exhausted this past week listening to the course around Tedra McMillan, the Tedra McMillan, he met to his friends. This is I think this is how you can tell these NFL draft people are calling him tech, they're calling him Ted. And I I was like I've never heard anybody call him TEMAC it's TEMAC yeah and it's like well yeah I saw McShay had him at number 50 on his

big board there's some people who think that's the best receiver in the draft and there are other people who think that he's, he's, you know, second round talent guys, the Arizona offense stunk last year, stunk. No Fafita took a step back. The offense was not good. T-Max still caught 84 passes for 1319 yards and eight touchdowns. He was the only threat they had and every defense we played knew it. And he still put up those numbers. I'm telling you right now if you

put him on an NFL team, where the talent around him is going to be better than when he was around at Arizona, relative to the competition, he's going to ball out. This is not complicated. Andy, this isn't the rant that I thought you were going to go on. But there's another rant. But that's OK. That's my Tyler Lockett rule. I made this rule up when Tyler Lockett played at Kansas State because those Kansas State teams did not have a lot of offensive web. Tyler Lockett was the main threat.

He was it. And he put up numbers every freaking week, despite the fact that every defense was geared to stop him Same thing with teaming. You know what my rule is. What do your eyes say? Never watched him play football Like I just feel like so much of this this pre draft analysis is over analysis. What is it paralysis by? Look at the guy. I mean this look my favorite is he makes it look too easy Cuz he makes it look easy It's a good thing my three-year-old daughter was watching an Arizona game this week this past week on our YouTube and she goes

He's gonna be a first rounder. Those were first words It was pretty easy for her to figure it out. I don't know I'm looking at a bunch of mocks here on our screen, which is great. And like, I see him falling pretty far in this one. So you know, I know it is not. I don't know. The draft discourse has not been kind to team act. It has not.

Yeah. And then maybe the NFL people see something that we don't know the question I have. I see a guy that every defense is geared up to stop who catches a bunch of passes for a bunch of yards for draft positioning bets there's a lot of them we use we use the prop bets guys so I can help guide our view of it is Travis Hunter or receiver or a corner like if it's his first receiver taken like McMillan was was a pretty heavy favor for that. But like Travis Hunter's probably gonna go to the Browns.

Yeah, and we don't know if he's playing receiver playing corner. Daniel Jeremiah is interesting the other day where he said he thinks the Browns are going to take Travis Hunter primarily as a receiver, not primarily as a corner, which is what the conventional wisdom has been. So that's the thing that's interesting to me is that Travis Hunter, I'm going to say this. I'm going to make some waves here. Travis Hunter is not the best receiver of the draft, is he?

He might be. He might have the best natural tools at receiver. I think everybody's making fun of his routes on pro day. Whatever. I have no problem. Like and I read something that I wish I could remember who wrote it, but. I read something where they interviewed an NFL coach. I think it was Bruce Feldman.

It was Bruce Feldman who wrote this. And he had talked to an NFL coach. He said basically he's good at all the things you can't teach and all the things that he needs work on are teachable things. And he seems like a very teachable player. So I think that that made sense to me. Yeah. If somebody like just put you in a life or death situation and said, you have to pick the receiver you want on your team

for the next 10 years in the NFL receiver only. Oh, just receiver. Yeah, because the Travis Hunter thing is different. Travis Hunter is the best player in college football last year. If you watched our show for even a minute, you know that we think that. But I don't know if I would take him as a receiver first with TMAC in this draft.

If that was, if that's, if you want him just as a receiver, you just want him as a receiver. But the thing is you're not taking Travis Hunter just as a receiver. So it's harder to make the argument. It's harder to have the argument. Like, and is he a better corner in college? I don't even know what, what, what was he better at? I mean, he put a lot of numbers in his, he might have been a better receiver. I don't know know what was he better at? I mean, he put a lot of numbers in better receiver. I don't know. But John T. Wester was pretty productive in that offense. Yeah. You know, like the thing is like, now you're arguing, are you already T Mac versus Matthew Golden? I feel like there's a different kind of receivers. So yeah, I guess also too, it's like there's a bunch

of receivers in the strap. That's like, what flavor do you want? You can go up and get it with her. Do you want somebody who's going to be a theater? First downs and move the chains. And I mean, I don't even know how it kind of a combination of that. Right. I think that's why you would consider making him a full time receiver part time corner rather than the other way around.

Well, the question too is how much does Travis Hunter actually he's not going to Colorado. He's going to NFL team. How much is he like? corner rather than the other way around. Well, the question, too, is how much does Travis Hunter actually? He's not going to Colorado, he's going to an NFL team. But how much is he like, you know, people make fun of him during the Heisman race for being like the best working out being the best in Panama, the best in Samina. That's what we had. We had somebody in our cat. He was the best stamina.

Yeah, which is a great skill to have, by the way. But how much is that do you think utilizing the league in terms of how many snaps a game he plays on Sundays? Like is that completely well, they're gonna be fewer steps in NFL game because they're being percentage Well, the game goes best. Yeah percentage wise in a game You think he'll play 80% of the total snaps or you think it'll be like 50% of the total snaps I'm thinking like 65

I'm thinking you like if you even use somebody as a situational quarterback? Like on Thursday as a nickel guy, you put somebody in. But the thing is, it depends on the offense you're playing, because you may have a corner on the field at all times. But I guess I'm taking somebody in the first round who can impact both sides of the football. That's a great thing. But I also do wonder, it's like if it's third down and sticks and

Justin Jefferson's on the other sideline, it's Travis Hunter locking down Justin Jefferson while also playing receiver in the same game. The answer to that question. Yes. I don't know that Travis Hunter is necessarily that. I don't, I think you want him roaming a little more as a corner. Yeah.

To use those ball skills to try to, to get turnover. Right. Cause if you've got somebody on Justin Jefferson, ideally you're going to put the person who makes it where they're not gonna throw it Justin Jefferson Yeah, so it's it's it's a tough one because you do want to use like I think with Travis Hunter You're like I have all these things I can do with this guy but in the NFL, I don't know that you can do What he did at Colorado. I just don't know if he lost even physically. Yeah

But we didn't believe he could do it and call. We did it. Yeah. We're like, oh, I guess I mean, you know, I don't think that people appreciate how good a shape you have to be to do that. It's it's incredible. There's no breaks. No. And the thing is, like, every once in a while, you'll have a run play where you don't have to run the full route as a receiver or something like that, but still might have to block. Yeah, it's not even just like the running aspect of it. It's the wear and tear in terms of hits and conflict that that would wear on you. Yeah, it's going to be I like and the thing is, like, we assume the Browns are going to

take him. Are we going to find out tonight? Like are the Browns brain trust the you know, the fancy Get up and say here's how we're gonna use them. Are they gonna leave that? Mysterious until they get him in the OTA. I'll tell you what a picture Browns. It'll be the most dysfunctional way possible You know, I'm excited. I strained a muscle in my neck sleeping last night So I'm excited to see him play 80% of NFL's perhaps in the game the the Here's the would you rather would you rather take a million dollars? Or would you rather get one carry in an NFL game? And if you get five yards, you get a million. Would you take the money?

I think I take a million because I think people are like, yeah, one five yard carry. But it's like you would just throw it. I take. Yeah, I think the man obviously been in a lot of college football games, but I've been at some NFL games too. And like when you're on the sideline in an NFL game, you you will see the hole open up. And it's a hole that in a college game,

you're like, that's a 20 yard game. It's a two yard game in the NFL. Like they are so freakishly fast. The D linemen and the linemen are so fast. Like a normal person like you or me, even if the play is perfectly blocked, it's never getting five yards because it would take us two seconds longer to get the point and somebody would catch you exactly.

Even if it was perfectly blocked play like I will take that million dollars every time. I don't think that we could do anything to gain a yard in the league. I think if the blocking was good enough, you might get a yard, but it's more on the offensive line than on you. So, yeah. But that is a great, would you rather though? Cause I do wonder how, how people. Cause I remember the pros versus Joe show where guys just get laid out by

I would professional football players. And I think we cut off from Twitter, right? So why don't we, we did, we did. Okay. I didn't know if we wanted to tell people, but they're not. Well, they know, they know there's a link below it. If you're watching on Twitter and it cuts off on you, there's a link just below there, you can click and join us on YouTube.

But yeah, so we are talking about normal people versus Travis Hunter, because this is not even close to the same thing. Normal people versus anybody in this dress. But I guess Ash and Gent is going to talk about on that front. Though what would you. What would you gain as an arm like Ash and Gentie does not go down on first contact, no, he breaks, that's what I love about so many freaking tackles. Where do you think he's going to go?

Because I feel like there's not as many super premium players at the super premium positions. So I think that leaves an opening for a great running back to go much higher than they normally would in a draft. Well, the thing about Ashton Gentry is this. How much of Derek Henry can he be? I don't know if Derek Henry is just a one of one person. I think he is the type of person that's so much bigger. Yeah. But if you want a running back in the top six and the top five,

I talked about how I loved how the NFL was going back, regressing to the mean in terms of how the importance they place on that position. But at the same time to wear and tear the way that Ashton ran the ball at Boise. Like how many years of Ashton Gentile do you get in the top five? There's always the question. Maybe he is also a cyborg. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, Eric Henry is just big. I think he's probably bigger and way bigger than faster, not that a faster,

but durable than most of the people. He's more durable than most human beings. So we like we were talking about with Tyler Schwick, like it is are certain people not capable of being healthy throughout the season. Like Derek Henry is the opposite of that. He's the most capable of taking hits and saying, Oh, Derek Henry's like diet too. Like,'s the most capable of taking hits and staying healthy. You ever see like Derek Henry's diet too? Oh, his diet and workouts are insane.

But you know, that to me is like Ashton Gentry, I think will be a productive running back in the NFL. The question that I always have with running backs is, how many years do you need to be worth it? And how durable and how hard is it to replace if you don't have him? I feel like there are two running backs in the NFL right now. And then Derek Henry's towards the end of his career that you would say that about. Right.

Take one and there have been guys that were taking like Leonard Fournette was taken with that expectation. Leonard Fournette was number four overall at the Jaguars. Right. And look, he was good. Like he was on that Tampa Bay team that won the three for Baltimore. It's been great. the start relying on running backs in a way where that feels more common or a Saquon Parkley an alien. I think he's an alien, but I think he may be an alien as well. So I'm excited to see it because and I just hope I know I said this yesterday on the show too. I'll say it every year this time of year.

Do not take a running back number one unless you already have a good offensive line for it. Yeah. It is not complicated. Like you, you, if you have a choice, you don't think your offensive line is very good and you have, you know, the eighth pick in the draft, take the tackle, get the offensive line good and then draft the running back once you have a good offensive line. I wonder also too, and maybe it's not this way because you need a quarterback. You just have just absolutely but like sometimes I feel like if you don't have your offensive line, you know that yeah That's who's better Trevion Henderson or Ashton Gentry

Ashton Gentry is that yeah, that's not even a question. I yeah, I don't think it's a question Now look, there are a lot of good running back and like Omarion Hampton Trevion Henderson quench on Judgen There's so many running backs draft who could be good productive NFL players. There's a lot of depth. Yeah, the thing that I think is interesting about Trey Henderson is that he was such a home run threat. It was like I felt like in his career, it was either a yard gain or two yard

loss or an 80 yard touchdown. Yeah. And like I just and also to like his durability. He was injured a few times in college, not a very big kid, super fast and explosive, but I don't know that I would view him as a first round Okay. Yeah, I don't think he is. Yeah, he's a different animal like just gente can break those tackles He has incredible balance. He has breakaway speed like you saw it against Morgan He was breaking away from Morgan defensive backs like he's got all of it and not many guys Also, only profession pass testers. Yes. So well, I mean he was a he was a receiver in high school up until his senior year Yeah, right again that goes back to the recruiting thing like

watch senior film guys I Leave some spots open in your recruiting class speed your film because I I'm telling you right now, if Baylor or Texas Tech or TCU had not filled up their classes so early, they might have gotten Ash and Gentry. Kansas ID, Ash and Gentry in camp before his senior year, and we're like, Oh my God, this guy's amazing. But they had just gotten there as Lance Lightbulb staff had just gotten there. And Kansas was awful. So Gentie had committed to Boise State and was like, hey,

Boise State's a better place than Kansas right now. So but like if that had happened this year or Kansas had some success. Yeah, he might have been a big 12. Maybe he does it. Yeah. And hopefully in the future would have remained one. Yeah, that's great. And kind of telling about Lance Lightful's. By the way, we're in prime last life of country here.

He's a Wisconsin guy. Wisconsin Whitewater, one of those national titles, I believe. One of his buddies owns the land that we're sitting on right now. Yeah, I wish I owned the land that we're sitting on right now. This is beautiful. This is like prime land. Vincent Barty coached back there. Bart's star.

That's crazy. Don Macowski. This is going to be one of the most unique sporting venues areas in the entire country. It's so cool. Just residential houses right there. Like, oh, yeah. And I know people know this Mount Lambo, but when you see it, it's interesting. Oh, my God. I'm assuming because.

You know, everything is is commoditized now that these are just Airbnb, a lot of these houses, but I'm sure there's a lot of people just live here and Love the Packers and probably walk over which is amazing It's pretty cool to if you like got married to somebody who loved football as much as you do Which I think is a very rare thing in this world Like you just sound like another packer fan who was obsessed with them the way you were You thought like a cool the 800 square foot house with a basement and you just made it all Packard stuff. Sorry, I don't know.

I don't know if producer River can turn one of our cameras around to see this guy. So we're early in the morning. Like this stuff's not getting kicked off here. Which draft itself doesn't start for another 10 hours. And now he's disappeared. But you know, the guy who goes to media days, the Alabama fan who has the championship ring hat and he wears this guy's a chiefs fan. He has a bigger Super Bowl ring hat than that Alabama fan has. He's just walking around wearing

hat. It's, it's incredible. I don't think it's chiefs. I don't think he got out of jail. That guy wears a wolf costume. He's still in prison. I'm pretty sure he robbed a lot of banks. Well, I really imagine if he used the wolf head to rob the bank. I think he did, didn't he? That would be that's a dead. This is one of those true crime. I guess you listen to all the time.

I mean, I'm surprised. I mean, there's one out there. Send it to me because I'm into it. I like it is pretty insane to be that. I want this. I'm going to find this. He's disappeared down to a tent like he's got to know he's the holic, right?

Yeah, we did, you know, what did you know? I don't know if you know this about me, but I was a bank teller in high school. Oh, that's right. I'll tell you the location or the type of bank, because this would be weird. A mob bank. You absolutely could rob that place. Oh, thanks. Like if I having worked there, I'm like, this is exactly because this would be weird. Is it a mob bank? You absolutely could have robbed that place. Oh, thanks. Like if I, having worked there, I'm like, this is exactly how I would do it.

Oh, he's back. Oh yeah. Producer, is there any way we can turn the camera to get a shot? I don't know if we can. I don't know if our lenses are long enough, but this is, this is amazing. Like this, I got to talk to our friend at STC media days with the Alabama championship ring hat because he is getting upstaged right now seriously upstaged

And of course this guy's wearing shorts, of course, yeah, I don't know if we can get the camera But it's about to walk behind us. I don't know it now. He's going the other way. Shoot away. We're gonna find him. We're gonna find him and have him on this afternoon. We're gonna be on this afternoon too. So we're gonna find him and talk to him because that is incredible. I do need to know if he knows he's calling. Yeah, I'm sure he does. It's a small world in Kansas City. But yeah, if you want to get a detailed diagram of how to rob the bank I used to work at just it's a hundred grand And it's all on you, but no, it's uh, that's a crazy story Yes, it is and NFL Super fans. You're not much

He was doing he was doing it to buy the tickets. I don't think it was because he loved his team that I think he just wanted the money But he was using the money to be in the front row of every chiefs game. I mean, that's an expensive. This is where it is, where we we came from college football. It's called a true college football fan would never rob banks. They do it for pure love. Or if they did, the local government would figure out a way to pardon him.

Exactly. Exactly. If an Alabama fan was robbing banks to go to the Bama games, wouldn't people be like, oh, I get it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's no problem. This is hard. Now, it just means more. All right. So we do have to talk about the bank. And of course, we are primarily a college football show.

So we do need to talk about a little college football. And what story have we not been able to stop talking about? There's been a lot of them but Nico's the one that comes in line. Yeah, Nico Yeah, Mali Abba now. This is not Entirely an eco story though. Nico did touched off some of the dominoes that led to this event. He was the domino He was here. He's the lead domino was the lead domino. Okay, so Was the domino he was the domino was the lead domino, okay, so We Pre-recorded our show for yesterday. So we need to talk about this yesterday and because we were on plane yesterday when we normally air

Arkansas the collective there is trying to call back $200,000 Reportedly from front of front office sports reporter this law back, call back, call back America. You said it, it's the of Walmart's. It is their sad face. I don't know if you guys remember. Basically, here's a bill you owe us $200,000 to get out of your your NIL deal that you had with us and we are Happening more often now, it's not

Madden's not the only person it's even happening to at Arkansas. They're reportedly going after another athlete who's transferred out and then I was I was told there was a basketball player who left Georgia, and Georgia got some some money back. It is an inevitability of something that has to happen. Andy. Oh, yeah, you have to because the deal is in your you're the expert on that receivables aspect of this is you can't take money go somewhere, play be there for a few months. Yeah. And you can't say money, go somewhere, play, be there for a few months.

Yeah, and you can't say it's for football because it's an incredibly stupid system where they're still pretending they're not paying for football. But they are putting liquidated damages clause in the contract, which liquidated damage, by the way, is the same title of the clause. When you fire a coach without cause and pay him his buyout, you're paying the liquidated damages clause. The only difference with this is you cannot prevent the other person from going to the other place. You still can expect your money back. And guess what? If you go after that person in court, you likely will get a civil judgment saying they must pay you. Yeah. I mean, if not, then I'm going'm gonna start like, I'm gonna start a car wash

and I'm gonna come to your house and I'm gonna have the pubs and soap and everything. I'm not gonna wash it. I'm just gonna leave. Is that not what he met and I think Emily Abaddon? Basically, basically, you set up, you got the soap, maybe a speedo. I don't know. basically So maybe a speedo

And they were apparently happy with him they were pretty excited they thought he had a great arm and You know and I can win tail and green goes off the NFL which Haley Green's probably gonna be this the next year like That he might be the guy Yeah that he might be the guy. Yeah. But the bigger picture here, not even just in this aspect of like what it means for Madden himself is what does it mean in the grand scheme of themes that people who leave prematurely from places

that they've had a great. I do think even if they don't get them to employee status, which I think they're probably headed that way, but even if they don't, if you can put some teeth in some of these contracts where it's a fairly significant amount of money you have to pay back, you leave, it will slow down the movement. Unless the movement is desired by the school. Yeah, it's predicated by the deep desire from the other school that's willing to write that check for you or help you compensate back.

But also to the hope is that Madden still has that money. I mean like it hasn't been that long, right? So, uh in that in that deal that he's going to take at ucla is he's equally or more lucrative than the one he's giving up Yeah, what's going to be in case 90 percent of the time any people are going to leave if the deal they're going for is more lucrative Well, they are now there's just a lot of a lot of guys are moving to move. And some of that is there are people who are moving to

move to make less money, not to make less money, but to make not much more. Yeah. Well, they just want to change the names. It's also like these clawbacks are hopefully going to be measures that

help or make people think twice before willy nilly doing it. Yes. Yeah. And that's the thing. Like it doesn't need to be so easy. If you're going to pay people like professionals, you should be able to. We're not talking about five grand here. Right. We should be able to enforce them. of the you have a lemonade stand out here like you're making life-changing money to most Americans and there's a certain responsibility that comes with making that type of money yeah and you have to either live up to your end of the deal or you're gonna have to pay it back and that's the way it works that's the way the world works no one's handing out money for free ever ever well unless they're vegans sometimes they hand it out for free yeah but they keep building those uh hotels higher so i'm guessing they don't end up. Sometimes there's free money,

but that doesn't mean that rent's not due at the end of the day. I was gonna say. I'm guessing they take yours more often than you take theirs. So, not today. Every day is a new day. You've seen that meme of the two people underground with an axe pick,

and there's one walking in the opposite direction with dirt and diamonds behind him and There's one that keeps going keep hacking the longer you go than the diamonds will fall. What are we on today Ari? We're not on anything, but we also have hours in between this show and when we're live again So we come on we come on the afternoon. It's gonna be five to seven Eastern time I'm thinking I'm gonna have the I like Tyler shirt, really one gift from pick. I think that's an interesting one. I've got some things. Okay, all right. That's good. Talk a little more about the situation in college reports, the payments, the callbacks, the rollbacks, the contracts. So one of the things everybody's waiting for, to kind of get some more certain certain theory at least just figure out what's next is

This house first of the incident lay settlement So judge plenty of welcome. Who's the federal judge for signing over the case? This was the rant. I was wait. Oh this one Oh, you're right. I'm talking here. Okay, good. I'm Yeah, I'm gonna put my mic down and let you cook. Well, we got to set this up first because I'm going to put my mic down and let you cook. Well, we got to set this up first because this case has been going on for a while. The settlement has been proposed for a while. The settlement is supposed to set up a structure where it allows schools to pay the athletes directly up to twenty point five million dollars a year.

They're supposed that's supposed to be a cap. We don't think it'll actually be a cap, but we don't think that this enforcement arm that they're creating is going to work. But. But first the settlement has to be approved because the settlement isn't approved this case just goes to trial and we already know the NCAA is going to get its ass kicked in trial. Otherwise they wouldn't be trying so hard to settle it. But here's the deal. They had a hearing a few weeks ago and Judge Wilkin in the hearing a

lot of the people who came to object to the settlement were people who played on teams where their roster spots are going to get cut because one of the things in the settlement is they have these hard roster limits for all these different sports. So for football be 105 because right now you have 85 football scholarships but you can take as many walk-ons as you want. So if you wanted to carry 140 players on your roster, you could. Well, once the settlements approved, that goes down to 105. A lot of people logically, understandably said, wait a second, so I'm just gonna lose my spot?

Why? Like, how is that fair? And so they objected to Judge Wilkin, and Judge Wilkin in the hearing is like, you know what, it's not fair. You guys have roster spots now, you're in college, we don't want them to have to make you get up and find another college.

Like, or just stop playing altogether. Or just stop playing a sport. Like, so, and she's talking to the lawyers from the NCAA and from the players, and she says, hey guys, just rework the settlement so you phase it in. So the people who are in college now get to keep their spots. Which is rational and easy. Easy, rational, common sense, common sense. And great, by the way. Right, right,

because you're not taking spots away from walk-ons. Yeah, the lack of future spots is a sad story, but it's not quite as sad as taking someone's spot You're not booting somebody off the track team who wasn't even getting a scholarship anyway Like yeah, and you're letting them which is the entire point of competitive sports at most levels, right? Which is to engage in an activity that you know, so it enriches your life and their thing is You know the judge is saying okay it's not gonna hurt anybody because it's just the people who are already there once they're phasing out then you can have the hard cap you want

you'll never guess what the NCAA did sigh given the opportunity for once to not be the asshole in a situation, the NCAA once again chose to be the asshole. This could be done. Because they could have said, yep, we'll phase in those caps, no problem. But no, they didn't. And so Judge Wilkin has to enter as to issue this order yesterday It says I'm not approving this settlement unless you phase in the roster caps

so you now have one more chance because Basically, it's an extinction event for the NCAA if this trade if this case goes to trial you have one more chance To not be the asshole. So just don't. And then also too, like you would be like, you would think in their position, they would be like, okay, no problem. Like you're not in a great position right now in terms of like bargaining. We have gotten beaten up and down in court, like over and over again. It's like if you were putting your house up for sale and you were foreclosing on it, or your house was being foreclosed on,

and if it doesn't close in the next week, you lose it anyway. And then someone's like, can you mow the lawn? And you're like, no! It's like, wait, like, has that not even happened? That's where I draw the line. It's like you mow the lawn, sell your house, and get out of this.

So doing the common sense thing that would be the also kind thing, like is the one thing they choose not to do. Your entire point, whether it's a farce or not, is to be a governing body to enrich the lives of student athletes. It's like, that's the lie you've sold for the last hundred years.

We pretend to give a shit for five seconds. Yeah, we know that your entire existence and all your rules were to keep them from money. That's what you were really doing. But you did pretend that you cared. I guess I could actually care for five minutes now. Now they're getting money. We don't actually care about these people, their lives, or what they're doing, you know, in college. But, God, it is really, honestly, the only word I can think about for that, Andy, is moronic. I mean, it's moronic. I just don't understand. And I said, who loses? Like, what's the pro- like, why do you think they said no?

Like, that's the thing. Because they're worried somebody's going to use the phase-in part to cheat or to have one more good player than everybody else has like yeah It's always something stupid like that And if you cheat because you have one more good to walk on then hey, you know what you deserve If only there were a way to find out if the walk-ons were there last year. Yeah also to like What would the cheating look like it wouldn't look like anything? It wouldn't help anybody. Yeah.

It's ridiculous. It's a phase that keeps the walk-ons that you already had on your team there. It's not the addition of walk-ons, right? Right. So if they were already there and they were really good, they would have played. Right.

And when they graduate, that roster spot goes away. Yeah. It's just, ah. It's not that hard. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Let's not do this. And it would have solved so many of their problems over the years. Yeah. And it's like, I also feel like the NCAA has been such an asshole for so long that a lot of times it takes the rap for things in which it's actually not the asshole. Right. And that's annoying.

This one is just bona fide grade A stereotypical asshole. Brought to you by the people who banned cream cheese. There's a federal judge saying that she will approve a settlement that will allow your organization to live because if it goes to trial It might not and all you have to do is let a a 19 year old kid who's not very good at football Hey, hey, hey, oh, that's why I said walk-ons are people too. They're people. I'm fighting for them Some of them are very good. That's on three's Grant Ferking, former Tennessee walk-on receiver. Yeah. But what Ari means is, and I say this with love, as a former walk-on who was definitely not very good compared to his teammates. They're actually in the top 1% of football

players on earth. But they're pretty good. They're just not as good as their teammates yeah yeah who are the aliens of the world right yeah but you get it it doesn't make any sense and i don't even understand you would think that with your life on the line the concessions that you would be like pounding your fist on the table forward actually matter and this actually matters in a way that like helps people it doesn't make any sense i bet they do it i bet they do the phase in because they're gonna gonna have you have to but Why did it have to come to this? Why couldn't you've just done this? two weeks ago Like she said it very clearly in the hearing. I would like you to do this and I'll probably approve it You had to do this just one more time this is is like is this the like the last dying gas the NCAA's like

We just have to be assholes one more time. We can't quit it. It's kind of like You know, I don't know if this is true or not But when you die, I hear you get seven minutes of memory your brain stays active seven minutes after you dive You heard this before? No So like in like you like think about your, you know, first time you, you know, had fun, the first, you know, your marriage. First time I had frozen custard from Culver's.

First time I had cheese curds. Okay. And I wonder if like, this is like part of the seven minutes for the NCAA, is I want to remember being an asshole one more time. I want to remember keeping a lock on from playing. Yeah, I want to remember keeping a lock on from playing like Yeah, I don't know if that's true though. That would be cool If you could like really what seven minutes you get your I know what my seven minutes would be

Are you sure this is somebody just made this up because of the the game seven minutes in heaven? I don't know How you could ever possibly know that yes, how could you prove or disprove this? Maybe the brain remains active or something like hair grows or something. I don't know. I didn't go to medical school. But yeah, is that but listen, and here's the thing. There are lots of good people who work for the NCAA, who are nice people, who are trying to do the right thing. But for whatever reason, whenever these things get kicked up the chain, and the group thing starts happening, or their lawyers get involved, and and their lawyers like I don't know how much they've paid them but they've wasted their money like you could have just hired a couple of guys fresh out of law school to get their

ass kicked like this but I don't know why they arrive at the decisions like how do you arrive at that two weeks ago do you arrive at that? Two weeks ago, all you had to do was say, wow, this is an incredibly sensible and kind thing to do. Now, one of the arguments is, some of the schools have already started to cut the walk-ons. They actually started last December. And that would be unfair to them.

Didn't let the people come back. Yes. You know their names. It's not like you're not going to bring in a ringer yeah like George is gonna say like I said Mike L Williams is gonna get picked in the first round here tonight George is gonna be like hey Mike hell we're gonna pay you more than NFL team I want you to wear a mustache and back and be a walk-on and tell him you're a walk-on from Tacoma, Georgia Who just happened to get a spot taken away? Yeah, I think they get it. It makes no sense makes no sense Oh, sorry rant over

On the show anymore, but I couldn't help it assholes not a cuss It isn't anymore. I guess but yeah, you can say I think NYPD blue made it safe for the rest of us Yeah, it's a it's a it's a really good word and it can be used in multiple ways. I just feel like with the NCAA, stop steering into the stereotype. Like just stop. Yeah. You don't have to do it anymore.

And the thing about it too is that every single coach in college football that's spoken out about walk-ons has been vehemently against losing them. Right. Like coaches don't want it, like who does it benefit? And I can tell you right now, I was of no help to the University of Florida football team. Maybe you were. I was useless. I can tell you right now. But they liked having people like me around and they were very nice to us. Like treated us really well, and I think a lot of programs are like that too and You know I just I don't understand Why there would be a single shred of resistance? But that that is the NCAA

Throughout the course of its history in a nutshell you have a chance to do something that is common sense and kind and You have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do it. Ladies and gentlemen, the NCAA. Alright, I'm done. That was good. That was long. But good. Was it over eight minutes? I don't know. I think so.

Was it over eight minutes, River? If you know, you know. The YouTubers know yeah we got to feed the algorithm so all right Ari we'll be back later today you got to get deep into your bag to figure out how to figure something out what your picks are gonna be not not your team's picks but what your picks are going to be. Yeah. I got under two and a half quarterbacks. I feel very comfortable about under two and a half quarterbacks. You feel very comfortable? I feel very comfortable about it. Okay well have fun laying minus 140 on that. Very comfortable. Okay I'll just take it for an obscene amount of money. All right let me throw another one at you.

First offensive tackle off the board. I mean, I think the best one is Elvin Banks, right? But he's not- Is it not Will Campbell? I don't know. You're an offensive line guru. Will Campbell is one of the great mysteries of the draft because his arm length changed between the Combine and Pro Day? It was just mismeasured probably.

Well, I think there's an issue with some measurements. Like arm length was measured differently in a couple different places this year, and it's really kind of messing up everybody's feng shui. So, Will Campbell's pretty damn good at blocking. So, I... Yeah, I mean It's over six and a half. That's his position Arm in Arm in Minbu is really good and the fact that nobody seems to care if you played right tackle or left tackle

Anymore it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter which is smart I think I think that is a good evolution from the NFL that they've figured that out like yeah Having a good right tackle is also extremely important. So, but so Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks, Armand Mimbu. I'm gonna go Will Campbell. I mean, those are all really good players. So, and they're all, are they all top 15 picks, right? I would think so. So, you know, do we get,

is there a Larry Meats Hun Hunsell gas mask bong coming? I think that that was in the history of things I've been shocked to see on television I've almost said something very insensitive and I'm not but that was probably one of the most I Just remember we were doing a live show at Sports Illustrated. So I was in their studio in New York. And so this was before the draft broadcast had started and it drops. And obviously it was somebody had one of his old iPads and they had been, I don't know if they'd been trying to blackmail them or something, but they released it and it was like, what is, what is this? Oh my god, and we got it confirmed very quickly Because I just checked with some people at Ole Miss like is that him like yeah, it's him TV was very cautious on that one

You didn't it took a while because because you remember it was like it was still during the time when Twitter was active So like we were all watching the draft with the computers on and we were all looking at this and like the draft went I think 45 minutes without saying anything and then they finally showed the trip on they showed at that point He probably would have been picked Right and he ends up going I think he fell he fell with the Dolphins at like I want to say 18 Yeah, we're on there. He's been a productive player. He's been a very good player in the NFL But that that was just why he's talked about it now since then. Can you imagine though, like it's the best 90 year

life because OK, that's not even a crime in most states anymore. So I think that part of it too wasn't just the fact that he was smoking weed. It was the gas mask. Which it was being smoked. But think about this. It's not like you didn't commit a violent crime.

It's not something like that. So you are going into what you think is going to be the best night of your life. You're about to become a very rich person. Because this is pre-NIL. So like, Ernie Tunsell now would already make high six figures, low seven figures. But you're going, you know, into a different income bracket. Everything is about to change for you. It's supposed to be the biggest party ever. All you have to do is go shake Roger Goodell's hand, give him a hug. It's going to be a great night for you.

And that drops. Can you even imagine? Yeah, no, it's insane. And it just like, I remember at the time too, it was just how shocking it was. That it was like of all the times for this to come out. Because it came out during the draft. Yes. It wasn't like the day over the day before. Minutes before. It was like as it's starting.

Strategically leaked because the teams don't have time at that point. Because you've got what? You know, five minutes between picks. They don't have time to do their homework on how important. Yeah. Yeah, five minutes. They don't have time to like do their homework. Yeah, how important? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, you you just you don't have time to stock then he's like fall like ten or fifteen spots lower than he was Yeah, he did and which is is millions and millions of dollars. Yeah, so just remember kids never get anybody the keys your your cloud and

Do you think that was like a really effective way to smoke weed? Or was it just like for the video? I mean it seemed... I don't know the smoke was coming... I thought the whole point of the gas mask was to stop you from having them in the... Well I would think... There's a gas mask! Maybe the gas mask wasn't very effective as a gas mask because there was so much smoke coming out of it. The thing that I think is interesting is that the entire application of a gas mask is to stop the smoke from going in But you would think it would also keep it from going out so that you could get a larger

A larger volume in and one like clam banking. I don't know. I'm not a big ganja guy As you can tell we have never smoked out of a gas mask before so but Yeah, it's just candy most expensive. Yeah, right. It would have been a gummy bear or a brownie Which by the way? If I had to pick a way to smoke marijuana, it probably would be through eating carbs Well, listen, if you if you if you want to drug me put in a gummy bear, that's probably your best bet. So yeah Well poor Laramie, I feel bad for Laramie. I still feel bad for Laramie.

He's doing okay. Let's hope nobody gets anything dropped on him five minutes before the draft tonight. Unless it's a cheese curd. Or some frozen custard. We'll be back later today. Great Wisconsin tailgate here from Green Bay. Come see us.

Come see us, yeah. We got the cheese heads. I've seen multiple cheese heads go by. We're gonna find some super fans. We're gonna ask that Chiefs fan if he knows Chief's a holic. And Ari's gonna have... A lot.

I'm starving right now. A lot. I don't know what we're gonna do. A lot. We are locked in here, so. We'll talk to you then.