Andy & Ari On3 - Indiana ANNIHILATES Oregon in the Peach Bowl | Hoosiers advance to face Miami in the Natty

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 on tonight's instant reaction show presented by Madelo. It's not even over yet. It's the fourth quarter, but it is 42 to 15 Indiana right now. This has been a butt kicking from the beginning. The first play was a pick six. Indiana looks like an absolute wagon. And the Hoosiers, barring the greatest comeback of all time, are headed to the national championship game in Miami to face Miami.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Ari and I will break down Indiana's absolutely an utterly dominant performance in this game. And we will start to handicap an Indiana-Miamy national title game. And maybe Oregon has the greatest comeback of all time, but probably not. So let's talk about the Hoosiers and dominance right now on this Ande Narean 3 instant reaction show presented by Medello. Welcome to an instant reaction show from Andy and Orion 3 presented by Madelo. I am here at lovely Mercedes Ben Stadium. Ari, I am in the box that the NFL scouts occupied at the beginning of this game. You're not going to believe this. They left at halftime. I think they'd seen all they had needed to see. Even if it was a close game, they probably would have left. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:01:26 I don't know. I get the referee announcements in here. So he's going to occasionally pop in. It'll be good for effect. I think it's a good backdrop. You found the perfect spot. I'm surprised that you found a place so so perfectly situated where you can see the people behind you. But Andy, should we have seen this coming? Should we like, I feel stupid because I was watching this. I was like, they're just rolling. Like, I don't know. Like, should we have seen this coming better?
Starting point is 00:01:51 No, we shouldn't have seen this coming. I mean, Oregon played them very tough in a game in Eugene earlier this season. Oregon's been playing very well. I think the part we could have seen coming in the last two days was when you got the news that Jordan Davison was going to be out for Oregon because he broke his collarbone. That's their number two tailback. And then that Noah Whittington was going to be limited in this game and he has been very limited in this game, that there were going to be some problems protecting Dante more.
Starting point is 00:02:19 There were going to be some problems in terms of offensive playmaking. And the problems came home to Roots. I mean, you can't make mistakes against Indiana. You cannot make mistakes. And they made three critical mistakes in the first half in their own territory that, all resulted in touchdowns, including the first play, which was a, the Angelo Ponds picked six of more. Yeah, you know, I think catastrophic would probably be a better word.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Because two of those were basically touched. One was a touchdown and one was at the three yard line. But I got to say, Andy, I don't know if any running back would have saved Oregon from this. I think that like Indiana is a runaway train right now and whoever's ever on the tracks might just this might be their fate. And like I have been texting, you know, people from the athletic, you know, boys in the group chat, you and River. And like I feel like I've had a hard time contextualizing just how remarkable this is. Like it feels real now. Indiana making the playoff. Wow, that's great. Indiana beating Alabama. Well, they're not so good. Indiana blowing the doors off
Starting point is 00:03:27 of Oregon. They are four quarters away from winning a national championship in year two under Kurt Zanetti in Indiana. And I made a joke about this on Twitter during the game, but it's like if they win the national title in 10 days or whenever it is, like they need to dedicate an entire chapter to this build and history book in American high schools because like it is some of the most remarkable things I think I've ever seen in all of sports. Like knowing what I know.
Starting point is 00:03:51 No, if they win the national title, it is possibly the greatest turnaround in the history of American sports. Remember, they were three and nine the year before Kurt Dignetti took the job. Three and nine. Forget the year before. How about the hundred years before? Right. The year before is the least of my concerns.
Starting point is 00:04:11 You go to a place that is deemed hopeless, literally hopeless. And now you're so good that people are accusing you of cheating on the internet. Like it's unbelievable. Yeah, it's like it's so funny to me. Like the Mark Cuban talking about his donations and like, oh, you have a billionaire buying you a team. What the hell has Oregon had for the last year? 20 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 What's Phil Knight? Also, Andy, in, we haven't spoken about Mark Cuban on our show once. Is this like for next year or did he already donate a bunch of money that's I think he's been donating some and he went on Sirius XM before the game. And I was, I obviously wasn't listening because I was at the pregame walking around the field.
Starting point is 00:04:56 But Jacob Hester, who was one of the hosts, the former LSU tailback, or excuse me, former wrestling fullback. I don't want an insult him by calling a tailback, said, they asked him, why do you donate all the money? And what do you do it for? Do you want, you know, any special seats or do you want, you know, them to give you a call or them to hang out? And he's like, no, just win motherfuckers. Like, that's what he said, live on here. Yeah, here's the thing, Andy. They already have the movie Hoosiers. Like, it's already taken. So, like, I don't know what we're going to call this one. The difference between Hoosiers and this.
Starting point is 00:05:30 is Kurt Signetti is not bringing a tape measure to show you that the 10 yards for a first down in this stadium is the same as the 10 yards for a first down in their stadium. They're not some cute little story. They are an unholy bunch of ass kickers. They have a bunch of really good players who are going to be really good NFL players. But the difference is, and this is what I want to ask you about, because you are Mr. Stars Matter. this has been very challenging for your worldview. They did it in a different way. These guys who are going to be good NFL players came up a different way.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Elijah Surratt, perfect example. This is a 6-2-215-pound guy. They call him Waffle House because he's always open, and now he's in the hometown of Waffle House, and he's always open. And he's so sure-handed. I mean, just vice grip on the ball when you throw it to him. He's got breakaway speed.
Starting point is 00:06:27 He runs great routes. Ari, he didn't start at James Madison with Kurt Signetti. He started at St. Francis of Pennsylvania. And then went in the portal and got recruited by Kurt Signetti at James Madison. Like, this isn't supposed to happen. None of it. So your question to me is like, how am I, how am I, like, how was this landing to me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Well, Andy, I've had three or four years of watching the sport evolve before this happened. like if this Indiana team would have dropped in in 2017 out of nowhere and won a national title, I might not be alive right now. Like at least I've had like, you know, years to kind of see this happening because I was blown away by what Michigan and Washington did three years ago. Oh my God, they just blocked a punt. Oh, Indiana just blocked a punt. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:07:19 On the six-yard line. But let me ask you this, because like I'm having a hard time with this, this question. And a friend asked me this. in a chat tonight and I've been thinking about it. Like, Indiana is a wagon. They are beating the crap out of everybody. They've got really good NFL players on their team. They're awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Could this Indiana team hang on the same field as 2019 LSU? Or does this dominance only exist because the best teams on the sport aren't as good as they used to be? Like, I don't know. I think this team would be in the game with 2019 LSU, but no, I think, I don't know that you can create a 2019 LSU right now. Yeah. But here's the thing. We also said when the 12 team playoffs started,
Starting point is 00:08:07 we'd not see another undefeated team. If they win the national title, they're going to do it undefeated. They're going to be 16 and 0. Yeah. You know, and like, listen, you know, everybody likes to talk about Elijah Sarat, but like DeAngelo Pons is one of the best corners in the country.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Obviously, you saw the first play of the game. And I needed to do a hat tip to Roger Sherman because he's like, Oh my God, the greatest tweet of all time. Since the beginning of history, ducks have trusted pawns, but tonight they were forsaken. They were betrayed. But like he, maybe if he were a little bit taller, he would have been a higher prospect or whatever, but he's like an NFL corner. So like, there's many examples of that across their roster.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And I'm not trying to diminish how good Indiana is. But you know the thing that is most, you know, overlooked because we get so bogged down by, roster accumulation and, you know, talent development is that the way Indiana plays, they don't really make mistakes. They play with precision. They play with blood on their teeth. And they are like basically the embodiment of their coaches temporary. I think I can count up the mistakes so far in this game on one hand.
Starting point is 00:09:16 There was the one where Mendoza had it knocked out of his hand and actually picked it up. I thought he was going to throw it away and get an incompletion, but he ended up taking a sack. and then they had a hold that erased a very long run. Like, that's it. Those are the only mistakes they've made. Yeah. And like, I can't even remember any of like incomplete pass.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And I'm sure there have been. But if there have not been many that Indiana is doing, they're playing with precision. It's not just that they have good players. They're using their good players and they're executing at a high level. And, you know, and they're playing relentlessly too. I mean, if you look at it, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:54 If you're not new to college football, you know this about Kurtzignetti, but even they're up by, what, 35 points at halftime or whatever it was. 28, yeah. Going into the tunnel, like, what do you have to do in the second half? Like, he's, like, not happy. They got to tighten things up and play one. And it's like, they play like that all the time. So, like, I have a, I'm sure we'll talk about it tonight, Andy.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I don't know yet if I've, like, really started to grasp or get a grasp on how I feel about how the national championship game is going to go, but I don't know if you saw this, but the look-ahead line went from five and a half to seven and a half. Wow. I used our friend Parker Fleming's site earlier tonight, and it only showed an Indiana by three and a half line, but I have a feeling the vibes are going to take over the linemakers.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, exactly. All the ball things, by the way, with a great question. And I appreciate the way this question is phrased, because I love what a ball know or ask a question. Why is Mendoza one in? he didn't ask why is Mendoza in, which is what everybody asked when Alberto, Fernando's younger brother, their backup quarterback,
Starting point is 00:10:59 goes in because it freaks people out because they think the starter's still in. He realized Mendoza 1 is still in. Yeah. I don't know. They're in the playoff, dude. Like, you know, this is a lot of these guys who don't remember
Starting point is 00:11:13 for the rest of their lives. Let them play. I mean, I don't know. If they get injured, he'll get buried, if somebody gets injured, you get buried alive from that type of thing. But, like, that's the other thing, too, It's like I used to be a pool the guys out of the game early dude, especially when I was covering Ohio State, and they were up by 28 points in the first, second quarter.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And it's just like, well, these guys work their entire lives to play in these games. It's like, are you really going to pool the guy? Also, you may end up in a four-quarter game next week, and you do need to make sure that everybody's where they need to be. But I have a feeling we're not going to see much more. There's just 1141 to go in the game. Yeah, I mean, I also wouldn't be shocked if Kurt Signetti, like, has it in his head that there's still a chance that they could lose
Starting point is 00:11:51 because he never lets his foot off the gas. Well, they didn't score. Yeah, they haven't gotten it over 50 yet. So yeah, and they had a couple chances. But remarkable, remarkable job. And another thing I saw, and I can't remember, sometimes I do this and I feel like a thief, but whatever, it's the internet. I saw somebody tweeting about Indiana fan like arc. And I thought it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And this person said, and when I find it, I'll try to credit you in a show later. I can't remember who said it. But, you know, usually the fan. experience, you know, at least for people who fall in love of the sport or, you know, gain hope. It doesn't go this way. Like year one, Indiana was a Cinderella story. They make it to the playoff, despite the fact that everybody doubted them.
Starting point is 00:12:34 They played Notre Dame. They played a pretty competitive game, but not good enough to win. Ultimately, Notre Dame was much better. Notre Dame goes to the national championship game. And then Indiana, you know, kind of fades off into the abyss. But what that did was it gave Indiana fans, football fans, their first real. taste ever of being highly competitive and that gets you hooked and gets you on the cat string and then for most fans who like Arizona State fans for instance who haven't seen a run like
Starting point is 00:13:02 last year since 2000 or 97 like there are um Elijah Surrat touchdown by the way yeah Waffle house always open but it gets you hooked and it makes you want that again and again and at most places that you know frankly we're situated like Indiana was a year ago, that's not tenable. That's not realistic. And it gives you a taste of what it's like to be good, but you never get the ultimate taste. Like in year two, if Indiana goes and wins the national title, like winning the national title is really hard. Look how long Oregon's been investing in football and look how Oregon, how long Oregon has been trying to do this and how many times Oregon has gotten on the doorstep of doing it and still has never done it, right? Like for Indiana to get there
Starting point is 00:13:42 in year two and maybe win and be favored by more than a touchdown, you know, going into that, like is a is a fan arc that like really you can't really duplicate anywhere else well and the thing is about this is we need to reframe our conversation about Kurt Signetti we keep talking about he's the destroyer of excuses how come you can't do this if Kurt Signetti can do this we may be watching one of the greatest coaches of all time it just took till he was in his 60s to get the job where he could show it respectfully ask you what the fuck took so long to get hired like why did why did he have to wait until those 60s for anybody to notice. He just wasn't one of those hot guys.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Like he's an assistant in Alabama. He wants to be a head coach. He's not getting any looks to even be a coordinator. And so he's like, okay, I'm going to go be a head coach at Indiana University of Pennsylvania. This is a school that can't even be named after its own state has to be named after a different state. Like, think about that. Yeah. It just wild.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And then he goes to Elon and then James Madison. You know, it always makes you feel like, you know, You know, you hear these like, you know, odes about, you know, if Michael Jordan would have grown up in a different place or what about all the kids that were as good as Michael Jordan but didn't get the opportunities or didn't have the money to invest in it. Like how many of it? It's like Kurt Signetti is like, what if he never would have been discovered? Like you just got done saying that this and I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:15:04 He made it, he made himself be discovered. He basically gave them no choice but to give him a job in a power conference because he was so good. Like he was so good at Division II that he got a job in the FC. He was so good in the FCS that he got a better job in the FCS. That school moved up to FBS. He made them good immediately. And so a bigger FBS school took him. Like he gave them no other option but to give him a chance.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Like that's the most amazing thing about this is he really didn't get kind of leg up along the way, which is crazy because he is the son of a very like a Hall of Fame coach. Frank, Frank, Frank Signetti is a Hall of Fame coach who was inducted in the College Football Hall of Fame in 2000. So he's worked for really good coaches. Like he worked for Johnny Majors second time around at Pittsburgh after the Tennessee tenure. He worked for, you know, he was on the Chuck Amato staff at NC State. He was talking about how that was the first staff that ever got paid a total of $1 million. Like all the assistants together equaled $1 million.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So that's how long he's been toiling. Like when he was assistant on that, that NC State staff, There was a very young quarterback that they really liked named Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers is an old man now. He's a grandfather. And Kurt Signetti just got his first power conference. He was still playing. He was still playing as of two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yes. Yeah. Kurt Signetti just got his first power conference head coaching job a year and a half ago. Well, two years ago now. Maybe you can also make the case that like hiring like coaches from lower levels became popular once people saw what Kalin DeBoer did. And like maybe if that was more of a hiring strategy or thought process 20 years ago or sorry, 10 years ago or five years ago, it might have happened faster. Yeah. Kaelin DeBore, Lance Lipold. These are people who, who did it and probably helped pave the way for
Starting point is 00:17:02 Kurt Signetti to get that job for Indiana to say, you know what, we need to take a guy who just wins. Instead of hiring some hot coordinator or hiring somebody who is attached to a really good head coach or a really, you know, good program. We're going to hire somebody who goes and just wins wherever he is. And that was not a prevailing notion. It took, like Lance Leipold rescuing Kansas from the abyss. It took, who did we just say? What am I blanking on the other one that we just talked about?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Kaylon. The other coach. Kalen DeBoer. Kaelin DeBoer going from Division III. Yeah, you did say DeBoer and I forgot DeBore. But Kalin DeBoar going from Division III and winning National titles there, like Lance Lighthold had done at Wisconsin Whitewater, and then moving into the FBS and winning at Fresno State, then winning in Washington. That's not a common thing. That hasn't been a
Starting point is 00:17:59 common thing throughout that. I mean, we've seen it before. Like, Jim Tressel was a very good coach at Youngstown State, and that got in the Ohio State job. But I, like, that didn't happen for a while. That sort of move didn't happen for a long time. Yeah. Is Miami crapping their pants right now? I don't think they are. I think they probably have a healthy dose of respect for the team they're about to play. I don't think they're crapping their pants.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I think they're looking at this like we have a much better offensive line than Oregon does and we feel like we can block these guys. But I will tell you, the quarterback, who went to Mario Cristobals High School in Miami could be the difference in this game. Because you're going to take Fernando Mendova to over Carson Beck every time. Man, I'm still kind of just like,
Starting point is 00:18:56 all right, do you want to have the Oregon discussion now? Let's have it. I saw a lot of, when does Dan Landing start getting questioned stuff tonight? Oh, he's going to get a question tonight. He's going to get hammered tonight. Like, do you think that, I don't know, like I really like Dan Lannning. I think that he's done a really good job.
Starting point is 00:19:16 But do you think that like when people ask, where is the quality when that they have a right to ask that? Or that's a reasonable question right now? Well, let's go back. The trademark. Where is it? It's Ohio State in the regular season last year. It's beating Texas Tech in the Orange Bowl this year, which didn't have an offense. So those are the two big ones.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Those are the two biggest wins. You also have the two losses to Washington in the 2023 season. season. You have the loss to Ohio State last season. You have this loss and a loss to Indiana at home this year. So as good as he's been, they're not
Starting point is 00:19:52 the best. And they are paying for him to win national championships. Now, he is knocking on the door and he keeps knocking on it. But you can't get blown out every time you get close. You're forgetting one thing optically.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Mario Cristobal left and left him a program that's further along, left to a different place, rebuilt another place, and made it to the national title game before him somewhere else. That's true. Which I think is a thing people in Eugene
Starting point is 00:20:22 are thinking about. Right. And it's not like Mario Cristobal was going to stay in Eugene. He was leaving to go to his alma mater. So that wasn't like an option to keep him. But they thought they had won that trade. They thought that they were the ones that got the better end of the deal.
Starting point is 00:20:39 and it turns out Miami might have gotten a better end of the deal. Yeah. It's funny how context changes things because for the first three years, Oregon fans like to point at Miami and go, ha, ha, I told you so. And it's like, well, I don't know what you. That doesn't, this is not to say that Dan Laining's a bad coach. I'd still take Dan Laning over almost anybody to coach my team.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I feel pretty good about him. Like, I feel pretty good about the possibility of Dan Lending winning a national title in the next five years. I feel very good about that. I feel very confident that that is, something that likely will happen. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think that, like, you should be out on him.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But it's just a tough pill to be down by a million at halftime against the team that you played earlier in the year, two years in a row. Like they were down 34 to 8th last year and 347 this year. Is that the right? Yeah. And this one was a little bit more their mistakes than the other team just absolutely annihilating them. But the other team was also annihilating them tonight while they were making mistakes.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yes. Yeah. I think that they were going to be blown out tonight regardless. But they made sure it happened immediately. Like, you know, like it wasn't, it didn't start. Because even in the Alabama game, it took Indiana into the middle to the end of the second quarter for them to kind of start, you know, doing what they do. Really rolling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Indiana. I mean, the game was over, what, in the first quarter? I thought probably when Indiana respond So they get to pick six on the first play of the game Oregon then mounts a really nice drive goes down and scores When Indiana took it and immediately responded to that By marching down the field and scoring I was like yeah Indiana is going to win this game You want to know you want to know when I knew it was over
Starting point is 00:22:25 When they did the sideline And you macromade yourself a pair of jean shorts? Yes We should keep doing that when Kurt Signetti was complaining on the sideline during one of the interviews saying about how his team couldn't get lined up during that drive properly because there was an injury. And like, oh, you're not there.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You're watching. I didn't hear that. Yeah. But like, he was like, yeah. Oh, you know that nice Oregon drive that they just went down the field after being down seven nothing and made it a game again? Yeah, that was because we couldn't get lined up properly. It wasn't because they did anything that we couldn't do.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And then like that's the rest of the game was just like. I love how mad he gets at the slu. lightest imperfection in his team. It is amazing because he's very demanding. And he was talking about this in the press conference yesterday morning about, hey, the bar is where the bar is. And you have to be above the bar every day. And you either are or you aren't.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah. And maybe like Kurt Signetti is like the old school type of hard ass that college football needs still. You know, like you get used to all these transactions and, you know, flips and transfers and all this stuff. and you need a player's coach. Like Dan Lannin strikes me as a guy who you would love to play for, who's like one of your guys, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:41 And I was like, I think people love to play for Kurtzigetti. Yeah. People love to win. You know, at the risk of sounding old, I think that people respect and enjoy. And like, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:55 you, in this business, how many former players of hard-ass coaches have you spoken to? They all look back. Like, I talked to Jacob Hester. I mentioned Jacob Hester earlier, but the same conversation we were talking about him interviewing Mark Cuban,
Starting point is 00:24:08 he played for Nick Sabin at LSU. And he's like, I needed that. I needed to be coached that way. He's like, certain players need that. And if you have enough of them together, you get really special teams. And Jacob was on a national title team later in his career when Les Miles took over. He was on the 2007 national title team.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I believe he might have been redshirting on the 2003 national title team. So like, Yeah. He gets it. And these players get it. Like these Indiana players, you hear them. They love how demanding their coaching staff is. They love.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And it's funny because you and I have talked about this. Like everybody says, oh, this generation is so soft and blah, blah, blah. Every generation says the generation behind them is so much softer. There are people in every generation who want to be coached hard, who want to work hard, who want to have someone demand perfection from them or near perfection. And that's not changing. And you get enough of them together with the right coaching. And this Indiana team is what you get.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Do you know how many players I've interviewed in my life through my career who played for Woody Hayes? And when you think about like hard asses, this is a guy that would like kick you out of practice if you hopped off sides in practice, and we all know how his career ended. And none of them, not a single person ever had a negative thing to say about that,
Starting point is 00:25:37 that guy. And I do think that there is something to that. And I'm not, maybe I'm comparing Kurtzini to Woody Hayes. Obviously, it's not quite as, go watch some clips on YouTube of Woody Hayes in the way he used to coach. I don't think you can still do that now. But that, that type of personality, or that type of fear that you can instill in your players to be perfect and demand
Starting point is 00:26:03 in demand perfection. Maybe there is something to that in a world where everybody's trying to acquiesce to the needs and wants and desires of teenagers who can leave for a bigger bag at any moment. Yeah, because I don't think Kurtzignetti cares if you walk into his office and I'm like, coach, I want more money or I'm leaving. Wouldn't you be scared to? That's the thing. Like, of all the coaches of like, he's probably like you can go somewhere, but we'll beat you.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Christian in the chat with a really good point. Christian is an Oregon fan. To everyone crapping on Oregon right now, I would rather be relevant year after year than cling to a natty that my team won before I was born. See you in the championship game next year. That's the right attitude. And I feel like that's how the Oregon fans should feel.
Starting point is 00:26:48 They're in it every year. They're in the hunt every year. They're knocking on the door. So this sucked tonight. But they're in the right place. My question to you already is this. we've seen Kurtzignani do this now with this group. Can he do this again?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Like he's going to lose this core of veterans. They're going to go to the NFL. Do you think he just does this over again next year? Does this over again? Maybe not this. Maybe not this level of dominance. 50 Burger has been applied. I think the question is,
Starting point is 00:27:24 is Indiana a team that is in the top 10 without second guessing it in the preseason every year moving forward, right? Is that what you're asking me? That's what I'm asking you. Yes. Is this repeatable with different people? Yeah. I do.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah. Why wouldn't it be? I agree with you. I agree with you because he's done it with different people everywhere he's been. Like this is different to us because we were not paying attention to him earlier in his head coaching career. It's not different for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I mean, you're already. seeing how much of a factor they are in the portal. And now if they've got Cuban money behind them, I mean, why wouldn't? My expectation is that it will. You know, and listen, Andy, you could probably go find clips from our show this off season of me saying the portal's great,
Starting point is 00:28:15 but you better be recruiting top 15 classes year over year if you want to win a national type. That's wrong. Or maybe just the players, Kurt Signetti thinks are good. We should just make them five stars. because maybe he's better at evaluating than we are. Andy, they didn't, this isn't,
Starting point is 00:28:32 this isn't a result of, of hammering classes together for five years developing them. No, absolutely not. This is the result of taking, taking the core of what you thought was best about your team at James Madison, the guys that you thought could compete at a little bit higher level, and then adding pieces, like very important pieces like Fernando Mendoza,
Starting point is 00:28:51 like Pat Coogan. There's a great Pat Coogan block. I have a column coming out on three. I inserted the video of this Pat Coogan. block in the video in the in the in the column it's amazing so first of all Carter smith blocks two people on the same play this is the Roman himy 11 yard run around the corner in the first quarter near near the goal line Carter smith their left tackle blocks two guys on the same play pat cougan pulls around the edge and just throws this safety out of the club like it was nasty
Starting point is 00:29:21 it's exactly what you want to see and that's what matters like okay they were good last year They go to Ohio State and lose. They go to Notre Dame and lose. Well, Pat Coogan was the starting center on that Notre Dame team that beat them. Pat Coogan got caught in a numbers crunch at Notre Dame where they had just too many good offensive linemen. So he wasn't going to start at center. So he had to go find some other where else where he could start. And he goes to Indiana.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And he's one of the biggest differences. Notre Dame guy grew up too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he's from suburbs of Chicago, grew up Catholic. like he was Mr. Notre Dame, but now he's Mr. Indiana. It's got to be an emotional, an emotional year for him, for sure. And Andy, I don't know if River has this video, but, you know, the four quarter,
Starting point is 00:30:13 did he do give any four quarters of FU football speeches before his game? He gives some speeches before the game. I didn't see. We get kicked off the field at 45 minutes before kickoff. So we don't, we don't see them when they come out before the game. and I was not over there when the offensive line came out to warm up. I was trying to see where Noah Whittington was, you know, condition-wise. So I didn't see that, but that's, he's the one I'm going to see at Media Day.
Starting point is 00:30:42 We talked to him at National Championship Game Media Day last year when he's playing for Notre Dame. We're going to have him back on. We're going to go see him at Media Day because I think, I can't wait. And that, by the way, that interview is probably going to play. on our show that we do with the Modelo activation on Saturday of next week. That's right. We got a Modelo sponsored show on Saturday from Miami, not Saturday tomorrow, but Saturday next week before the national title game.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And I can't wait to see everybody there. If you're coming down, by the way, I'm sure Indiana fans have already started buying tickets. Miami fans, I warn you now, buy your tickets now. Like now, now. It may be too late. Indiana was 90-10 here in the Peach Bowl. It was 90% Indiana fans. Do not be outnumbered in your own home stadium, Miami fans.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm telling you that's a real danger because those guys are going on game time and getting all the tickets. But yes, crack of Medello, come see us. There will be there will be Medello there. So yeah, come see us on Saturday, two days before the national title game, January 17th. We will be down in Miami with Medello. It's going to be spectacular. Ari, I got to go interview some Indiana players and coaches. You do that, bud.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I can't wait to hear what they have to say about this. They are currently up 56 to 15. This game's still not over yet. But, you know, ESPN has to keep broadcasting it. We don't. We've said, I think all there is to say, and to quote a particularly notable IU donor. and because of that, I'm out.

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