Andy & Ari On3 - Is Texas SCARED to play Texas Tech? Joey McGuire says YES: Which blue blood will play Red Raiders?

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

As the Texas and Texas Tech verbal war continues, Joey McGuire made some comments at the San Antonio touchdown club on Wednesday, saying Texas is “scared” to play Texas Tech and the Red Raiders ar...e expecting to add a home and home for the 2027-2028 seasons. Will Texas and Texas Tech EVER schedule a non-conference regular season game? Watch here as Andy & Ari discuss the feud between the Longhorns and Red Raiders.   (0:00) On Today’s Episode (0:39) Presenting Sponsor (2:36) Intro: Joey McGuire says Texas is “scared” (8:19) Did Sarkisian say anything untrue? (14:23) Who would America cheer for? (20:13) Texas Tech’s top transfers (28:35) Mean Girls reference (31:06) Bryce Underwood & Eric Weddle comments (41:49) Bryce Underwood’s IG Story (44:42) Miami = kiss of death? (56:26) Dear Andy & Ari preview (57:48) Kentucky Basketball’s portal addition (59:30) Thanks for watching!   Once the guys wrap up the debate in Texas, the fellas turn their attention up north, where Eric Weddle made some pointed comments about Michigan QB Bryce Underwood. Entering his second full season as the Wolverines’ starting QB, Weddle said, “I don’t think he can throw or play quarterback.” Watch here as Andy & Ari break down his comments here.   Next up, the guys take a look to South Beach, where the Miami Hurricanes, according to On3’s J.D. PicKell, is the best team on paper ahead of the 2026 season. Did J.D. give the Hurricanes the kiss of death, or is he actually right about Mario Cristobal’s squad before the season?   To close, Andy & Ari dive into Kentucky’s newest addition out of the transfer portal. What should Milan Momcilovic’s nickname be in Lexington?     Thanks for watching! See you tomorrow!   Send your questions to: andystapleson3@gmail.com ari.wasserman@on3.com Our show is also presented by BetMGM!   If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works:   1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB. 2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game. 3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sure you use bonus code CFB when you sign up!   Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary.   See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. This promotional offer is not available in DC, Mississippi, New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or 1-800-MY-RESET (Available in the US) . 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only (if applicable). Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel   Watch our show on YouTube instead! https://youtu.be/DqZEaD4OoSQ   Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari Wasserman Producer: River Bailey   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's Andy Noreon 3, the war of words between Texas Tech and Texas continues. Texas Tech possibly on the verge of scheduling a major non-conference opponent, but not Texas because according to Joey McGuire, and I quote, Texas is scared. I'm not sure they're scared. We'll talk about that. Plus, one of Kyle Whittingham's best former players goes in on Michigan quarterback Bryce Underwood. does that mean and what happens next there? Talk about it all on today's Andy and Rion 3 presented by BetMGM. This show is brought to you by BetMGM. All the lines and totals we use
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Starting point is 00:02:39 Welcome to Andy and Ari on three presented by BetMGM R&A on location today. We have some fun stuff for you tomorrow. We will be at the EA Sports College Football 27 launch later today in Chicago. So we will have some goodies for you about the game probably as soon as we're allowed to. And definitely on tomorrow's show. Yeah, when I was checking into the hotel, I saw a bunch of IGN backpack. So we're home, Andy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah. We're home. We're probably the only people who actually cover college football here. So we're coming at it from a little different perspective than everybody else. And I also feel like we're here because we're cool and are like able to still be like one with the younger generation. Are we cool? I feel like Steve Buscemi on the Save by the Belskit. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Hello, young people. All right. I tell you what is cool. Coaches talking shit to one another repeatedly over and over. and over the texas texas tech thing we got into it last week because well we've we've gotten into it multiple times when steve sarkesian said what he said about there's a team in our state that plays a schedule that our twos and threes could beat everybody on the schedule and then that obviously texas tech and joey mcguire took offense to that they then offer to buy out abling christian
Starting point is 00:03:57 and texas state the both teams week one opponents to challenge texas to a game well now joy mcguire According to C.J. Vogel from on Texas football at the San Antonio QB club yesterday. Texas Tech expecting to very soon announce a major 2007 and 2008 home-and-home opponent. Joey McGuire quoted by C.J. Vogel, it won't be Texas because they're scared. Got to keep going. It's not going. So there's 19 different angles this goes, Andy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And I don't know which one you want to go to first. But I just want to say thank you, Steve. Sarkesian. I really appreciate that. And I was like workshopping this. Now, listen, I think that that comment, there was a response, and you highlighted this response on Twitter yesterday to me when I was like, wow, keep going, you know? And that was, wait a minute, did Steve Sarkesian win the interaction because he bullied Texas Tech into scheduling a hard non-conference game? And like, I think that scheduling is a little bit more intensive than that. I don't know. I will point out that the folks with the cacti next to their names on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:05:07 The Texas Tech fans have made very clear to us to remember that Mississippi State and NC State have bailed on Texas Tech in the last few years, that they're supposed to be playing. Like Mississippi State, SEC goes nine conference games. They canceled a series with Texas Tech. NC State, ACC's going nine conference games. They canceled the series of Texas Tech. So Texas Tech did have some Power 5 or Power 4 opponents, but now doesn't and is trying to find one. Matt Zinnitz from CBS said they reached out to Notre Dame and USC. Given what we saw USC do with Notre Dame, I'm assuming they don't want that smoke.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Notre Dame maybe. Yeah. I mean, Notre Dame might need it more. I know. So, but I'm not under the illusion that because the Sarkesian opened his mouth, the Texas Tech decided to start trying to schedule games like CJ just reported. Now, I don't know what big time means. Big time.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Does that mean like we're trying to get like a national championship contender? Big time is Joey McGuire's. words to the San Antonio quarterback club. But it's interesting because I don't know how many NC State, Mississippi state level schools want to play Texas Tech right now. Like there's a reason they pick that one to cancel. Yeah. And but I hope that big time isn't coach exaggeration.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I hope big time means literally big time. So Notre Dame is an interesting case because when we asked Christel Coney, the Texas athletic director about the Notre Dame series with Texas, which is scheduled. They scheduled it in 2024, and it is scheduled for 2008 and 29. It's a home and home. Chris Elconi used the word tentatively.
Starting point is 00:06:45 He said they are tentatively scheduled to play Notre Dame, which if I were Notre Dame and Pete Bavocke with their athletic director, I'd be like, what do you mean tentatively? Yeah. We got a contract, buddy. Yeah. I think that means the game is probably not going to play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 That's how I took it. So, but I wanted to ask because I'm not sure, who do you think needs these games more? Notre Dame or a big 12 team? The big 12 team. But I think Notre Dame needs them more now. As long as the CFP is in a place and schools are in a place where they feel like tough non-conference games hurt their chances of going to the CFP,
Starting point is 00:07:22 then Notre Dame suddenly needs as many good teams as we'll play them. Like the BYU thing was great for them. Replacing USC with BYU, that is the best replacement they could get on short notice. they need that. Yeah. And I saw the early lines of that game, by the way, yesterday. You want to take a stab at it? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Notre Dame by nine? 11 and a half, good guess. Okay. But Texas Tech would be a great candidate for this because Texas Tech is spending the same way Notre Dame is. It's spending the same way a top-level SEC or Big Ten team is. And so the roster should match up. And Texas Tech needs that because let's be real.
Starting point is 00:08:00 If Texas Tech had to play a team like Oregon in the regular season, They probably would have been a lot more ready to play Oregon when they played them in the Orange Bowl. They look like Texas Texas Tech's offense looked shocked by what they saw in Oregon's defense. So I want to do this right now with you because it's actually we have like we're a podcast that prides itself on being truthful. Yes. Did Steve Sarkeesian say anything untrue? No. So if Steve Sarkeesian did.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yeah, I will like I don't think you could play your twos and win the 12. It was hyperbolic. It's hyperbolic. But the thought is true. The sentiment is true. So that said, because Texas Tech is spending as much money as Big Ten and SEC teams to fill out their roster, you can almost assume that they're going to win that conference every year. If you're Steve Sarkisian, you're looking at them saying they're gaming the system,
Starting point is 00:08:49 to which you could say you could have just stayed in the Big 12 and you could have gained it. Right. But Texas Tech also isn't going to be hit with season crushing season ending losses. in the non-conference the way maybe an SEC team would by losing because they are up and away the best team in their conference. So they have that to gain. But Notre Dame or anybody that would be willing to play Texas Tech also will probably be able to say at the end of the year, we beat the Big 12 champion, which you could roll your eyes in the middle of the summer means something in November. We'll definitely mean something in November. So like I think that on both sides,
Starting point is 00:09:26 anybody from a Power 4 conference, that's not the Big 12 that wants to schedule Texas Tech in the non-conference has a lot to gain from that, including Notre Dame. So, you know, I don't see any downside, but I just like want the reason why I wanted to thank Steve Sarkesian is A, it gives us offseason football. Thank you. Which is always perfect. There's nothing that we love better, especially when we're bogged down by Congress every day. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:51 To talk about a football. We've been talking about rules so much and laws and bills and this is, this is a breath of fresh air. And the thing is like, you guys who take this seriously, you, you, you guys who take this seriously, Texas and Texas tech fans who are taking this seriously like his life and death. No, this is coaches talking trash to one another. It's great. Yes. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:10:10 They're enjoying this as much as you are. And like honestly, don't think that Joey McGuire or Steve Sarkish and hate one another. This is just football. So, like, I think that that's a good thing. But I also think, too, that creating debates like this actually sparks motivation for further investment from the teams and the programs. that are the victim of the shot. If I'm a BYU person or I'm in Arizona state person or whatever, because that's the funniest thing about this whole situation.
Starting point is 00:10:43 We're talking so much about Texas Tech. He didn't dump on Texas Tech. He was insulting their schedule. Yeah. So like if I were Arizona State person, and listen, I'm no billionaire, but if I was a huge Arizona State fan who had a few extra shekels laying around, I might want to donate $100 or $200 bucks of the collective. I might want to get involved because, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:01 USF has a huge alumni base. I'm looking at the teams over here, West Virginia, all these different places that, you know, have some maybe extra money. I might want to invest in a way. It kind of reminds me, and this is, save me for myself, Andy. I always say stupid things on the show. I think you meant UCF, by the way. What did I say?
Starting point is 00:11:17 USF? Yeah. UCF. Sorry, thank you for fixing that. But when Urban Meyer took over at Ohio State, he made a comment that was basically not quite as blunt as what Steve Sarkesian just said, but he made comments about how the Big Ten needed to catch up to the SEC when it came to recruiting.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And that was a huge deal back in 2012 when he said that. And I was in the room when he said it. And I remember how the rest of the conference reacted that day. But we have a gentleman's agreement. But what ultimately happened to the conference? It got better. And I wonder, like, maybe the Big 12. Now, there's always going to be the financial difference.
Starting point is 00:11:57 There's no making up the fact that the SEC schools just bring in more money than a big 12 school. Right. But in terms of taking pot shots, like, Brett, this is a great thing for the big 12. Like I, and I actually don't even think it's that big. I think that Joey McGuire played it perfectly back. He goes, if you want to play, we'll play. He's trying to make Texas look scared. He played it masterfully. Well, and it's so funny because all the Texas fans were like, you guys didn't even call Texas State about canceling it. Well, they can't cancel the game on Texas State. Texas would have to do that. Yeah. They're just saying, Cody Campbell's just saying he'll write you a check for it. He's, he's saying, he's trying to alleviate whatever
Starting point is 00:12:31 excuse you might come up with beforehand in order to do that. But I think that there are really no losers here because I don't think that anybody actually is under the illusion that Texas is afraid to play tech. No, they're playing Ohio State. They're not afraid to play Texas Tech. Texas also can't put itself in a position where it harms its chances of making the CFP, although I think that they would probably beat Tech and enhance those. But it's unrealistic to think they would they would do this and schedule a game, you know, too much. months before the game happens. But Joey, what does Joey McGuire want? Joey McGuire wants people to think about tech. He wants people to talk about Texas Tech. He wants Texas Tech to be viewed as a team that is a national
Starting point is 00:13:14 championship contender on an annual basis. And this works. I feel like everybody is getting exactly what they want here. Now, the fans don't ultimately get the perfect thing, which isn't a game. But if this results in more investment from the Big 12, if this results in more aggressive scheduling practices from Texas Tech itself, if this this brings Texas, Texas Tech back into the forefront of an in-state rivalry that may or may not ever be played again, although we always have the hope of the playoff. Steve Sartesian's a national hero. Absolutely. Now, you asked me a question before we went on the air, and it fascinated me. So let me lay out the scenario the way you asked it to me. Let's say Texas is the 10 seed and Texas Texas seven seed or flip those if you want. Either you could have Texas having to go to Lubbock
Starting point is 00:14:01 in the playoff or you could have Texas Tech having to go to Austin in the playoff. Who's America rooting for in that game? Because usually it would be the plucky underdog or the one that is not the traditional power school. But I think you pose a really good question. Galaxy brain, Ari. Yeah. Has America already turned on Texas Tech? So the question is at the very basis of it, not a Texas Tech, Texas Tech, Texas Discuss.
Starting point is 00:14:32 The question is, is there a hierarchy in college football with blue bloods, the haves, and the have-nots? And is there a vested interest from fans who root for the halves, which is, I would say, 80% of all college fans. But is that a fair? It's close. It's a big chunk. And it's actually a lot of what they were talking about in the Senate on Wednesday. And I feel like everybody in America and everybody in general has this illusion of everybody is equal and everybody gets a little piece of the pie. and everybody it's like this this viewpoint that everybody should be treated equally but i actually think
Starting point is 00:15:05 deep down if you're at the cool kids table you don't want anybody else there so i'm wondering if an alabama fan has a vested interest in texas tech not well i think historically people have fans of traditional powers have always disliked the idea of interlopers they they don't like new voreish programs coming in and throwing money there right yeah organ has experienced it for years now. Now, I think Oregon has done it long enough that they're part of the club now. But also, I think that a lot of people who root for Bama in Georgia and Ohio State and some of the teams that are in the club still take shots at Oregon that they wouldn't have otherwise gotten because they haven't gotten over the hump yet. Yeah. You still feel the remnants of that. Yeah, you're doing this because you have a rich benefactor. Well, guess what? You guys did this because you had rich benefactors.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yes. At them earlier. So the question to get back to the original point is, has Texas Tech become a villain in college football to the point where people are, upset about how much money they've infused in the roster. They're upset in their scheduling practices or the fact that they have an easier path. Because I think at the very root of Steve Sarkesian's comments aren't actually targeted at tech itself. I think it's a resentment stemming back from last year's schedule that they didn't get in that is manifesting in those comments. And his job is to promote the University of Texas and put them in the best place he can put them. from a Texas perspective, there's nothing wrong with anything he has said. He's just doing his job.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And Joe McGuire is doing his. But Texas on the surface, and we get this all the time because we have a lot of nice things to say about Texas is definitely in the top five of most hated teams just in general in college football, right? Yes. So if they play Texas Tech in the opener or in the playoff, do you think there would be a locked arms blue blood fanhood? Let's keep these guys out mentality from the public? Oh, I don't even think it's just that. I think there will be people who would root against Texas Tech just because they don't like the idea of new person coming in and buying a roster. Which is funny because if you're online at all talking about college football, the whole thing right now is how can we make it equal for everyone?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Right. Does anybody actually want that? And if you do want that, then why are you rooting against Texas Tech? Texas Tech should be the hero of every single middle major. But if I don't have my own oil billionaire who played offensive line for me, then I'm jealous of Texas Tech. Yeah, because they're doing the thing I want to do, but my program can't seem to figure out how to do it. Yeah, and then it gets back to how many people have billionaires or whatever. But I think that, like, is Texas, so Indiana's the lovable underdog that got the great coach and did it the right way.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And by the way, they're now the villain, too. The conspiracy theories about Indiana make me laugh. Like, you know, oh, they paid so much for their, we, no, they didn't. They paid kind of a middle amount for their awesome. Now they're paying a lot. they're not paying more than Texas is. No, absolutely not. But Indiana just, I don't know if you saw this,
Starting point is 00:18:03 got a recruit out of Columbus, Ohio, yesterday. And that kid had an offer now. My understanding is that they paid more than an Ohio state was willing to pay and that he might be a fat, or that could be Ohio State's bid. I don't know, but my point is, it's not like it was a five star. It was a high end three star. But I was on that beat for 10 years. I never saw Indiana going to Columbus, Ohio,
Starting point is 00:18:23 and he came with an Ohio state offer. Right. But Indiana is going to start doing it in the more traditional way. They don't have a single benefactor. Although, you know, I understand that Mark Cuban. I watched Shark Tank last night, by the way, very fun show. And for that reason, I'm out. Mark Cuban, by the way, is in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And like I've never seen him in public, but like a lot of people have interactions with him. Apparently is like one of the most wonderful human beings ever. I don't know if you've heard this or not. I have not, but we'll have to have him on the show. I would love to have him. He does talk to Pete Naco. Yeah, he does talk. But I don't think that people view Indecoecoecoe.
Starting point is 00:18:55 even though they're in a place that makes more money and have Mark Cuban in the fold and all those things, the same way they view tech. And I don't know why that's the case. Why is it different? Because one's in the big 10 and one isn't. Well, tech did it by just outspending. And Indiana didn't outspend. They out evaluated.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I think that's part of it. Yeah. But it shouldn't matter because Ohio State and Texas are basically trying to outspend. There's nothing wrong with them doing it. Oregon's trying to outspend. There's nothing wrong with them doing it. I would also be remiss. And you would too to not at least point out to that Texas Tech did an awesome job evaluating.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Like, they didn't just buy random people. I would argue they didn't do an awesome job on offense evaluating. Well, an awesome job on defense. I mean, I guess that's an interesting argument. I'm ready to have it with you. Zero points against Oregon says you didn't evaluate very well in offense. If you are supposed to, is it possible? Do you think like Texas Tech not scoring against Oregon was an evaluation issue or you can only fix so much in one year issue?
Starting point is 00:19:46 It's a good question. I don't know. I mean, if you've got an unlimited piggy bank and they don't, let's be real, nobody has an unlimited piggy bank. but they didn't do enough to make the offense good enough. I want to ask you a trivia question. Okay. I was reading this week we did a show and we had a series of top 100 players. And I looked at Om3's transfer rankings first and foremost.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But before we did the show, I wanted to look around a little bit. So I went to the athletic, our old employer. And I looked at their top 100 most impactful transfers to see if there was any major differences from their evaluations from ours. shockingly Andy there aren't but I did do something because I was curious of the 100 impact transfers on their list how many do you think are going to tech this year eight four okay that was going to be more than that I actually don't think that they are really outspending people the way that people view it it's just different because they're getting a few guys well they're doing it in high school too they're getting them at all which they never did before I mean getting fours a lot. Right. Exactly. But it's not like they're getting 14 and everyone else is getting three.
Starting point is 00:20:57 They have the number one player, Jalen Brewster, in the 20227 class committed to them as well. So they're doing it, they're doing it on both ends now, whereas before it was just in the transfer portal, now they're doing it in the transfer portal and in high school. I remember at the very beginning stages before NIL was even instituted, arguing with people in the Ohio State hallway when I was. I can imagine. Yeah, just about like what NIL would do.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And my thought was, well, what's to stop Northwestern from getting a ad on the side of a big building on Michigan Avenue and putting a recruit up there? And I remember coming at it from like a negative viewpoint. Like, why would you want that? Why would you want Northwestern to be able to spend all this money and use Chicago as a weapon? And then as I grew up, which is like six long years, I'm like, I think that's freaking awesome. Of course it is. Why would you want everything limited to just the same five schools? But I felt like maybe I had like that gatekeeper mentality too of like this is the way college football is.
Starting point is 00:21:55 You definitely did because you were in an Ohio State bubble for all those years. But at the same. Yeah. And it's just like Texas Tech is actually now it's not the same. They're not in a big city and they don't have a major corporation behind them. But I think you could make the case that oil is a major corporation. It is. You don't shop there. By the way. Which you do at gas stations every day. If you're SMU, if you're Baylor, if you're TCU, you also have some of that too.
Starting point is 00:22:18 You may not have it to the level of Cody Campbell or to the. the fervor of Cody Campbell, but you have it. Yeah, I watched. By the way, it's not an accident. SMU's been good since they've been in the, they're not even taking TV money from the ACC, and they're still one of the best programs in league. And by the way, sneaker ACCC championship contender this year,
Starting point is 00:22:35 SMU, that was sneaky about it. Like, they should have made the championship game last year. They lost a Cal on the last day of the season. So my, my understanding of oil is limited to scenes that I saw on Lamb Man. Like, I'm not a huge understanding. I'm so glad you admit this. But I'm not, I'm not like a huge economic,
Starting point is 00:22:51 understander of what goes on in the Permian Basin. Yes. But my understanding is that Cody Campbell's probably not the only billionaire that lives or came from there. No, he's not. So I think that if he's the only one they based the John Hamm character on and the Billy Bob Thornton's son character on. The John Hamm characters
Starting point is 00:23:09 was a TCU guy. So. Yeah. Well, that's what we asked Cody Campbell. It's like, how do you feel that being portrayed as a TCU guy? But I'm assuming there are TCU guys there. And the question that I've always had about tech, Andy. is this is texas tech the only one that can do this or are very rich tc u and baler fans that also have connections to the permian basin watching them as a guinea pig to see if it can be done yes i there are others who can do this and it's not just oil like illinois for example
Starting point is 00:23:38 has a couple billionaires that they've produced larry ellison being the biggest one now he's helping michigan because his wife is a michigan grad and huge fan and happy wife happy life By the way, I love... Shad Khan, who owns the Jacksonville Jaguars, also in Illinois grad. Like, there are other schools who have people like this. And isn't Shad Khan also like the most giving and crazy spender in the NFL, or is that just a rumor? No, he's not. I'm also not sure if you can do that as an NFL owner because of tampering rules with the NFL.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I don't know how much you can pay college football players. But... Yeah, that's right. The example, like, there are other schools. schools that have their own billionaires. But there's a microchip industry and there's an AI industry and I don't know what else is big industry. Florida has one of the co-founders of Indyatia and he has given to the engineering school. If you could activate him in football. Is he a nerd? He has to be right. What do you think? Do all know he was actually he's actually
Starting point is 00:24:38 a walk-on receiver for the gators? I don't know the Winkle Vy twins. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. The Winkle-Fi twins did play and I say Winkle-Vye. They rode right. They were rowers at They were rowers, I think, or lacrosse or something. Yeah, and they helped create one of the biggest social media brand. Well, their idea was stolen, right? They didn't help. We're not relitigating the social network. But I'm just saying nerds have ideas that like sports.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah. But yeah, but I do wonder sometimes if Texas Tech in Indiana, so like in investing, it investing, it's funny because we're talking about businesses and everybody is like really fired up about investing in AI right now. Yes. and I haven't really put much money into it. I noticed when I said Nvidia, your eyes just lit up. But I don't have a single share of Nvidia.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Right. Because you're not Jim Kramer. You don't have to declare it on the show. Yeah, no. But I'm just trying to say from an investing standpoint, when the dot-com bubble happened, and I read a little bit about this. And I promise you, I'll wrap it around,
Starting point is 00:25:39 that Pets.com had a huge valuation, like in the late 90s. I don't know if you remember this. I remember this because that dot-com bubble burst and coincided with me graduating from college. Yeah. And the amount of jobs just drying overnight. I graduated from college in 2009, brother. I'm with you. But
Starting point is 00:25:56 a lot of the places that spent the most money or earned the most money during that dot-com bubble are places that don't even exist anymore. Yeah. We don't know who's going to be the winner of AI, so I haven't given it. I will pick my AI company to invest in later when we figure out who won. We don't know who won yet.
Starting point is 00:26:13 That said, I kind of feel like that with college football a little bit, where, you know, we are still kind of at the beginning portions of new places, trying new things. But I think that we also don't know who ultimately could win this financial arms race if the system stays like this long term. Yeah. Indiana won a championship.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Again, more evaluation than financials. But I think the financials are probably going to catch up. Texas Tech is the big spender right now. I think financials will catch up, but event, but you're still going to always have to evaluate. I think there will be a line. There will be a line. And it's actually Sark.
Starting point is 00:26:47 who said this. There's a line where you've got to spend this much to compete, but then it becomes evaluation after that. And he estimated there's 25 schools that are above the line. But when I say financials will catch up, I mean Indiana might be able to operate on an annual basis the way Texas does moving forward. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Like they've been able to break into that. Yeah. But what if the teams that are actually the ones that win this financial arms race, and I don't know if the system's going to stay long enough for this to play out, or stay the same way long enough for this to play out, our teams were not even considering yet. I wasn't considering Texas Tech, four years ago.
Starting point is 00:27:18 New things happen, new people get interested, new money comes in from all different places. And what if the next biggest winner is another team that we don't talk about at all right now? What if the Spanx founder finally says, you know what, Forrestate, it's time it's time to dominate again?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah, does Timothy Shalamee have like a favorite college team because he knows ball? He's a Knicks fan, baby. I know, I watched him on TV rooting for Knicks, but he's got, what if he has that general money in three years? Listen, Timothy Shalamee, why do you think he knows that much, ball. See, you think he's on the apps? I don't know why he knows that much ball, but like,
Starting point is 00:27:52 I wish I was him. I know you do. But yes, you don't know who's going to get interested. You don't know who the next big benefactor is going to be. I think that that's fun because we have gate-kept, not we. The sport has done a bad job. A good job of gatekeeping and a bad job of getting everybody feeling like they can compete. And now you have other teams who can't. whether that is helpful or not. Like, I'm sure Texas Tech people are fine with them being the villain as long as they're in the mix. Yeah. I just didn't think you would be the villain this quickly.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I thought that, like, you, because Indiana was America's sweetheart last year. I think if we're all, here's the thing, let's go to mean girls. You know, Katie Heron getting invited to the, to their table. Like, her friends took offense to that. They did. Like when you're dorks together and all of a sudden the cool kids invite you, just you single you out, the other dorks get mad.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I still love crudgeon wieners, man. Of course you do. Yeah, you know this. You know ball. But yeah, the, yes. And I wonder how much of college football's evolution could be found with lessons from that movie. Like,
Starting point is 00:29:09 because like honestly, like is it not what's happening now? How mean girls predicted all of college football next on Annie and Arion 3? Because there are a lot of characters in college football, or I mean, in mean girls, you know that scene in mean girls where they're all like falling back and trusting the person? Yeah. Like I feel like there's this like underbelly of college football who wants everybody to succeed and everybody to be a part of the club. But then the mean girls who are the blue blood. But the second somebody gets out of the group that isn't in the club, who are catching them, they're mad at them.
Starting point is 00:29:36 How dare you leave us behind? It's like the two best friends who are 27 years old, two best friend females who love going shopping and getting drinks and brunch on the weekends. one gets a boyfriend. Do you think the other friend likes that? I don't think so. So Texas Texas gets a boyfriend. And Baylor, so they're like,
Starting point is 00:29:54 I thought we were friends, but like that's just kind of how it is. But it doesn't mean that Baylor won't get a boyfriend one day. That's right. And if I were Baylor, I would look at Baylor knows Chip and Joe. I just think that Texas Tech in Indiana should be the heroes for every team that's not a blue.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Can we get Chip and Joanna to fund Baylor? They're involved. they've been involved. I don't know how rich they are. I think they're pretty freaking rich now. Like, they weren't before, but I think they are now.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I mean, those food trucks at that little furniture store they have were pretty banging. I had some kettle corn while rich shopped around. What's that place called? Magnolia. Magnolia.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. They did a good thing by putting the food trucks back there for the men. Yeah, it is, it's pretty spectacular, the empire they've built.
Starting point is 00:30:37 So maybe they can be, they're not as rich as Cody Campbell. Let's, let's throw that out there. But they're pretty rich. And so, yeah, there may be those people that touch their school and say, you know what, it's time for you to level up. All right, let's shift and talk about a blue blood that is a blue blood. And actually, we were just talking about how certain players got funded when I said Larry Ellison's wife's a big Michigan fan.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So the player that Larry Ellison's wife helped Michigan grab, Bryce Underwood, number one all recruit in the class of 2020. probably forced into action a little earlier than Michigan wanted to because of everything that happened last year with Mikey Keene getting hurt before spring practice. Now going into a sophomore year, new coaching staff, everybody's decided they won nine games in spite of their coach last year, really not being as engaged as he probably should have been for reasons that we now all fully understand. And of course, Bryce Underwood goes into sophomore year, expected to lead Michigan to a playoff birth,
Starting point is 00:31:45 expected to help Michigan compete for a national title. So interesting comments on a Colorado-based podcast from Eric Weddell. Eric Weddell, former Utah great, played in the NFL for a long time. So he played for Kyle Whittingham, Michigan's current coach at Utah. And he's talking to Matt McChesney, one of the hosts. He's like an old line coach in Colorado. and Eric Weddle, whose son Gage is a recruit right now. So Eric Whittle was visiting practice.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Eric Weddle says, I don't think he can throw or play quarterback. Says that of Bryce Underwood, that the backup's going to play sooner rather than later, which would be Tommy Carr, because Eric Whittle says Bryce Underwood can't throw or play quarterback. I'm trying to think of insults that you could give to a quarterback, and I'm not sure there's one that's more painful than that's pretty nasty right there. It is bad.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And look, this is not just some guy. Eric Weddle was a very good safety in the NFL. He's like a multi, multi, multi, pro bowler. Yeah, known as being one of the smartest players in the league when he played, understood the offenses he was looking at, understood the quarterbacks he was looking at. So he does not say this coming from a place of, I'm just a dummy, I'm just a fan, I don't know. He knows the sport. Now, he has said since I was being a little hyperbolic.
Starting point is 00:33:17 But then he's like, I still stand by it. I still stand by it. Yeah. So if you are a safety who was one of, have you seen this website that is going around called 20 and 0 or 82 and O? Have you seen this? It is a wheel that spins. And it gives you a year or an era decade.
Starting point is 00:33:41 a team and you have to pick a player from that and try to make a roster in the NBA or the NFL I'll go undefeated. I drafted Eric Weddle in the NFL one yesterday or this morning and I got, and I want undefeated. I wanted to, he is one of the best players in NFL history. I want you to tell me how much do you think a player who plays a different position who had as much success in the defensive backfield of an NFL franchise as Eric Weddle does in terms of analyzing a quarterback's play by watching it like that? One practice though. I know, but this is, That's the other thing. The sample size is small.
Starting point is 00:34:13 So. But do you, do you take a safety's opinion of quarterback play with the quarterback son very seriously? No, his, his son's a safety. Or safety. Sorry. Yeah. So now, yes, I take it seriously.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Do I take it as the be all and all? No, I don't. But I do think it's interesting that he said that. And, you know, more interesting. So I went to the Wolverine, our Michigan cited on three. And I looked at the message boards to see the distance. discourse on this. And I found it interesting because there were a lot of posters on the message board saying, hey, we're getting our backs up here and we're defending our guy, but
Starting point is 00:34:50 some of this is stuff we've said amongst ourselves. And so, and look, Bryce Underwood, I think if we were having this conversation 10 years ago, we'd be very much in the defense of him. I don't think he would have even had played yet 10 years ago. Right. Yeah. But He is a pro athlete. He is a highly compensated pro athlete. Therefore, he's open to criticism here. Do you see any of that? I saw a quarterback who got thrown into a situation that was probably not great.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I don't think he was getting coached as well as he probably should have been getting coached, given everything we know about was going on behind the scenes at Michigan last year. So I'm not going to judge him yet. I want to see him play this season. I don't think it's fair to judge him on last season, getting thrown in the way he was. And by the way, they won nine games. They did win nine games. It was like a disaster of the season.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And yes, there were things you saw watching Bryce Underwood play where, okay, he bails out of the pocket probably sooner than he should. He needs to trust himself as a quarterback. He needs to trust his arm. And look, the can't throw thing is pure insanity. And I know Eric Weddle said he was being hyperbolic. He can absolutely throw. Now, maybe does he mean he? he can't throw accurately.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I don't know. He completed 60% of his passes last year. His catchable ball rate, if you go to the advanced stats, was fairly high. So the guy has a great arm. Now, whether he can layer throws as well as you want him to, we'll find out. Can't throw is completely bogus. Yeah. I think that Bryce Underwood has been criticized a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:38 and I think that comes with the territory as a result of your recruitment. And let's not forget to, Bryce Underwood was a flipper. Hey, flip for MLS year. Yep. For money, this is kind of what comes with the territory. But I do agree with you in that
Starting point is 00:36:52 I want to see him play, especially considering the fact that we know that this year's coaching staff is going to be a little bit more bought into the system than it was a year ago. And maybe we'll see a huge renaissance. But the thing that I do think is interesting, and I want to point out to my handsome, smart, and, you know, sometimes,
Starting point is 00:37:08 procrastinator of a podcast co-host is that there's been a no prognosticate oh okay sorry you don't I do procrastination I don't think you really do you take care of business a lot of really nice things said about Tommy Carr this offseason there were a lot of really nice things said about Tommy Carr this off season and when I saw Eric Weddell's comments my very cynical brain immediately decided that probably wasn't an accident yeah But it also just may be a lighting of the fire under the insanely talented, tools-heavy, number one recruit that you inherited.
Starting point is 00:37:49 It is very interesting because I know, and here's a scenario, because I don't know we've seen this a ton. We've seen it some, not a ton, of player that is on a team because the collective or the boosters backed up a Brinks truck. new coach hired to take over for said player that did not recruit him. What if Kyle Whittingham comes into Ann Arbor sees us and goes, this is the guy we're spending all this money on? Well, I think John Summerall did that at Florida because that happened. That went pretty quick because DJ Lagway probably wanted to say at Florida. And John Summer was like, eh, not at that price.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Now, I don't know. I can't remember the timeline. This was pre-Portal. right. This was pre-portal, yes, when Whittingham got hired, yeah. So he could have evaluated and been, hey. Yeah, if they had decided they didn't want Bryce Underwood, they would have cut him loose.
Starting point is 00:38:49 So I don't buy that. But this is a hypothetical. This isn't just Bryce Underwood and Kyle Whittingham. But what happens, what takes precedent? The finances of it, or the new coach's viewpoint? Like, if it came to a point where he thought Tommy Carr gave him a better chance to win, how much is Michigan
Starting point is 00:39:05 paying him going into the calculus of how to proceed in the situation. This is, this is a question that I don't think we know the answer to because this is such a new concept in college football. We know the answer to it in the NFL. Yeah. The Browns are playing to Sean Watson this year, aren't they? The answer is the person you're paying all this money to is going to play. But the difference is there's a hard salary cap in the NFL. Every dollar you pay to that person is a dollar you're not paying someone else. That's not the case in college football. So in college football, theoretically, you should say whatever wins works. And if we have a lot of that, you have to be a lot of, you have,
Starting point is 00:39:37 have to eat some costs on this guy that we're paying too much to. Oh, well, we'll cut him loose next. In the NFL, how much the Cleveland Browns are paying Deshawn Watson is more important than how much Michigan is playing. Yeah, it's influenced every decision they've made over the last three years. If I were a college football booster, I would view it as how much did we spend on this team? Right. I would never view it as how much do we spend on this point. The goal is to win, and it's not a zero-sum salary cap where every dollar you spend on Bryce Underwood means you didn't spend a dollar on somebody else. Conversely, if it ever got to a point, and I want to remove Bryce from this,
Starting point is 00:40:13 because I don't want it to make it seem like we're talking about Bryce. But if you did spend a ton of money on a quarterback that wasn't playing, and then you were still ultimately very good, I would be very frustrated by what that money could have spent. But even in the NFL, we've seen it. We've seen it. So remember the Seahawks signed Matt Flynn after he has a couple, it was a few good games as the Packers backup where he had to come in and start in place of Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:40:35 and they're like, okay, Matt Flynn, you can be starting quarterback in the NFL. And so Seattle pays him a lot of money as a free agent. The same year they draft Russell Wilson in the third round, fourth round. Pete Carroll made the right decision. He picked Russell Wilson, even though they were spending more money on Matt Flynn. I mean, I'm assuming last year that Ole Miss spent more money on Austin Simmons than Trinidad Chambers. Much more, yeah. So, I mean, like it does happen.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. But as you pointed out, and I think it's important. that you pointed out, Michigan could have alleviated that expense if they wanted to. Yes. Yeah. I mean, if we look at the timing of it, if Kyle Whittingham had come in there and said, I've looked at the film, I've talked to everybody about this. I don't think he's the right guy for us at the price for paying. Let's figure out a way. You could have figured out a way to get out of it because somebody would have taken Bryce Underwood. Like even if you've got him on a multi-year deal, you can buy your way out of it if you want to. Yeah. So there is, I don't buy that.
Starting point is 00:41:35 they would be trying to undermine Bryce Underwood. But Bryce Underwood is definitely hearing what people are saying. He put on his Instagram story the other day, Bryce, you know, taking the Joker mask from the Joker in the mirror. You don't watch comic book movies, I know. I don't understand what that means. I know what the Joker signifies, but what is the mask thing? Well, in that case, it is the person inside.
Starting point is 00:42:05 the other person's head who now is going to manifest himself physically. He's saying your your inner villain is going to come out here. Got it. Yeah. So he's handing him the mask. Yes. Yes. He's handing him the mask. He's like, you know, I'm going to come out of your head, and now we're going to manifest physically, and
Starting point is 00:42:25 we're going to scare everybody in the big tent. They expect one of us is a record, brother. You adopted the doctor. So I was born into it. I mean, it is a black and white picture. Yeah. I have heard that the penguin on HBO is very good. Fantastic. And then I would like it.
Starting point is 00:42:42 You never believe it's Colin Farrell and there's no, there's no supernatural, there's no anything. So I should watch it. Straight crime drama. It's fantastic. Okay, I'll watch it. That's your TV recommendation, but we'll get back to Bryce Underwood. And what, what should he do?
Starting point is 00:42:55 Go ball out. That's all you can do. You're a highly paid professional athlete. You got criticized by a guy who used to be a highly paid professional athlete. he's entitled to his opinion and all you can do is go shut him up by playing. LeBron James is one of the greatest basketball players, if not the greatest basketball player of all time.
Starting point is 00:43:13 He is picked on and criticized relentlessly. I think that this would have been out of bounds. The reason why you don't, like five years ago, the reason why you don't see this very often is because we used to view these guys as kids. But if they are professionals and Bryce Underwood is a millionaire now, this should also be part of it. So it doesn't mean that you suck.
Starting point is 00:43:33 It doesn't mean that nobody has. confidence in you. This is one man's opinion of you. And there will be others who have plenty of opinions of you. But I think that you have the opportunity to prove him wrong. And that's what sports is. So like I personally think that this is the beginning of a new trend, which is criticizing these players because at the end of the day, they're professional. They've always been criticized, but they'll be criticized much more publicly and not like this. Yeah. A guy who's been in college for one year can't throw or play quarterback. Yeah. We're going to find out if he can throw or play quarterback. He's going to get his chance and they've got a pretty tough schedule
Starting point is 00:44:07 this year. So week two, Oklahoma comes to stay in Arbor. Very confusing defense that Brent Bennebill's runs. They, they tend to tie opposing quarterbacks and knots. We'll see if he can play. You will, you will know, like, we'll, we'll find out if Eric Well is right or if Bryce Underwood's right very, very quickly. But it might not hurt to throw 10 bucks on Tommy Carr Heisman at 50 million to one. I don't even think that's on the board, Ari. Did you check that MGM? Is it on there? That was just already being funny.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Okay. But seriously, do it. All right. We need to talk about another potential college football playoff contender that may have gotten the kiss of death. And I want to apologize as part of the On3 family to the Miami Hurricanes because, well, let's just run the clip. Our friend J.D. Pekyll was on with Jake Crane. And while J.D. has made a bold proclamation. Here's J.D. This year is this the most balanced and the best team on paper?
Starting point is 00:45:18 I'll start there because we're sitting here in June that Mario Cristobal has ever had at Miami. 100%. Without question. It is the byproduct of because they kind of did it in some. I know there's a lot of conversation around how they attacked the point. portal on those pieces, but like, Cristobal has been stockpiling talent at the high school level here for some time. So it's been a steady build of, let's recruit the high school level, let's get our depth on our roster all the while. Now, let's build this culture up to a championship standard.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And you saw them be on the doorstep of winning the whole thing a season to go. Now you still have that depth. You still have that roster talent. You made some surgical moves in the portal. You went out and got a quarterback that I think is at the very least going to give you a better ball on that final. play against Indiana. Does it change the game? Who's to say? But I think it gives you a better chance to win that game on that final drive. It's all there. And so I think in modern college
Starting point is 00:46:10 football, we maybe oversimplify what it takes when a national championship. I do think there is an ingredient and formula to it, a recipe, if you will. And I think Miami checks those boxes. Be elite in the trenches, have a due-day quarterback that you trust to win three to four games, be great at the skill positions about running and throwing the football. Like, they're just they're an extremely complete team. And so, to answer your question, without a doubt, this is the best team Miami's had under Crystal Balls because he's gotten there. I agree with them, David.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I'm so sorry, Miami. Because if you look into JD's past last year, he said this about LSU. He did. He said LSU probably would win the national title. It definitely would make the playoff. Now, I don't know that our listeners know J.D the way that we know J.D. We love J.D.
Starting point is 00:46:57 J. is the type of person who walks into the room. and makes everybody feel better about themselves. You smile when he walks into the room. He's a very kind, spirited human. He doesn't really have negatives. He's not as mean as us is what are he's trying to say. So I think it's, so Andy made a joke before we started and it's true.
Starting point is 00:47:19 If J.D. is ever out on you, you're in trouble. Yeah. Like when J.D.'s like, I think this coach is not going to make it. He's getting fired within four minutes. So I have made a career in college football media of being wrong and I'm willing to do it again. But I think he's right, man.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I don't know. Like, okay, listen, you lose two very capable pass rushers to the NFL draft. You lose first rounders. Yeah. You lose Kianti Scott. You lose the first round offensive tackle. Kianti Scott was the heart and soul of your defense. But Kianti Scott at this time of year was not a huge.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah, he was a guy coming over from Auburn. So my point is, is I do believe that it should be viewed as fact that on paper Miami has one of the best offenses in college football. Like, that's not a hyperbolic thing. I would agree with that with Malachi, Tony, with Cooper Barcate. Mark Fletcher. Yeah, here's the part that I have a hard time with just declaring them as good or better than the team that made the national title game last year. It's not just that you lost three first round guys on the line of scrimmage because CC Mau I know is the other guy that they. loss. He was pretty good. He was awesome. So the problem is teams have different chemistry, teams
Starting point is 00:48:37 gel differently. Like in this case, we talked the other day about Damon Wilson coming in from Missouri coming off the edge. He's got to produce at least as well as he did at Missouri, if not better, to give you, you know, what Rubin Bain gave you. And then Akim Esedor also gave you, you know, almost as much on the other side. But they did, although I don't know. I don't know. It's really hard to say this defense could be as good as last years because last year's defense propelled them to the national title game. But they made the right moves in the portal to at least attempt to make up for some of that loss production. And offensively, I don't know if this is like offensive, but like last year's offense that went to the national championship game is probably going to be the third best of the last three years. Because the offense before it was better.
Starting point is 00:49:24 So like that. So I don't know if their defense will be as good. but I think their defense should be very good. It shouldn't, it don't be nothing like how terrible it was. I'm more worried about the J.D. Pichael kiss of death because look at what that did to LSU last year. The college football madden cover, Andy. It is because like LSU on paper looked unbelievable going into last season. And it all fell apart and they fired the coach.
Starting point is 00:49:48 That's not going to happen to Miami this year. Here's one thing I will, I will concede to you and J.D. I think, now maybe I'm being Harper Bollock here. You tell me. I think Mario Crist, ball's formula. And he's come on this show and described it to us. I think his formula for recruiting out of high school and balancing that with people you take from the transfer portal is the ideal one to be successful in this era of the sport. That's not that's a fact to me.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Right. Yeah. Because I think and it's interesting, Georgia and Ohio State still recruit better out of high school than everybody else. They've gotten some good portal additions, but maybe not enough. And maybe they don't have the sense of urgency in the portal. Like Miami coming off of the 2024 season knew it had to really revamp the defense. And they went in there and got guys that could really fix it right away. Would you rather be dominant in high school recruiting or dominant in portal acquisitions?
Starting point is 00:50:45 Both. But if you had to pick one. I would rather be better at the portal. But the thing is what Miami is great at, and we've talked about this a little bit with what Texas Tech's trying to do, what Miami is great at is they are, they are big in the trenches at a high school. They're not doing a lot of trench recruiting out of the portal. That's it.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You can make the case that Texas Tech is using Miami's blueprint. They are. Yeah, they've, they've swiped the formula. And so I think that's the most important thing. It's just understanding that there's fewer of those human beings. It's easier to develop than to buy them. But the other thing is, Miami also got Malachi Tony out of high school.
Starting point is 00:51:25 So Texas Tech did not. Yeah. It's not like you. are ignoring the skill guys too. They are doing a good job of the players they need to get out of high school, the kind of players that you probably can't. And remember, Miami had the chance to get that type of player out of high school before and just missed.
Starting point is 00:51:48 How many times have you done the hypothetical of what if Jeremiah Smith had picked Miami? They would have had Jeremiah Smith on last year's team. They won the national top. Yeah. Yeah. I think they would have been in the playoff. before too. Yeah. That's neither here nor there. I do. But it is, it's important to note that they're doing it right in high school recruiting, but they're really good at figuring out who they
Starting point is 00:52:12 need from the portal. Now, the question is, and like Cooper Barcate is awesome. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's probably the third or fourth most recognizable. We're looking at, we're looking at that as the throw in. Yeah. With Dary and Minson coming because he was Dary and Mince's favorite receiver of Duke last year. But that's not the case. So I do worry about whether their defense can produce the way last year's defense would. Anybody would worry about that. Their defense last year was awesome. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:52:38 That's all I'm trying to say is let's not crown them the best team in the Mario Cristobal era before they've played a game. Well, before we get out of here, I want to do provide our podcast audience what they expect from me, which is a hot take. Okay, go for it. Could Steve Sarke, to wrap it around? Okay. From the beginning of the show, let's wrap around. Because Steve Sarkesian's comments about tech also applied to Miami this year? If they didn't have Notre Dame on the schedule.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah. Well, that's not an ACC team. Yeah. Miami got a very gentle ACC draw, I think. Now, Clemson not being very good in Florida State not being very good. Obviously, Damp puts a damper on their ACC schedule. Duke won the league last year. Pittsburgh could be good.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Virginia Tech should be considerably better. I'm sorry, BC people. I don't have anything positive. I think you could make the case that Miami and Notre Dame who is also criticized for their schedule could be the Spider-Man meme when it comes to schedule jokes. They could be. So somebody win the game. I think both are going to the playoff this year because it doesn't matter who loses.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I think they're either being undefeated or a one lost team. But Miami has yet to make, okay, here's where I'll say, like, if I want to get on board with JD, here's what I need. You don't have the two random ACC losses this year. if they've now created a team that doesn't have the two random ACC losses, then they've done it. They've succeeded. Best, best Miami team in the Mario Cristobarer.
Starting point is 00:54:03 But if they lose to Virginia Tech or they lose, also I think that trying to figure out who the dark horse of the ACC this year is kind of like playing whack-a-mole at the arcade. Oh, yeah. I don't know which one. Like, I think there's a case that Wake Forest could be like a nine-win team this year. The G.O. Lopez revenge tour?
Starting point is 00:54:21 I mean, we've had Dicker on the show and, enough to kind of buy it. Oh, Dickert's a very good coach. And Cal could be very good. Cal has the quarterback. We don't know what Tosh LaPoy is as a coach yet from a game management standpoint, but we do know what Tosh LaPoy is from a talent accumulation standpoint. I've been reading a little bit about Cal the last few weeks.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Obviously, they just picked up a pretty important quarterback recruit. Don't sleep on Cal. I don't think losing at Clemson would be the most shocking thing in the world because Clemson still is Clemson. I mean, I think that if you do avoid those two. ACC losses. No SMU either. Yeah. No Louisville.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Their schedule stinks. Yeah. It's just like SMU and Louisville were the two that got them last year. We act like SMU and Louisville were bad teams. They were not bad teams last year. Well, SMU and Louisville, the equivalent, would be losing to Virginia Tech and Pitt. This year? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Or Duke in Virginia Tech? Well, SMU almost made, like SMU should have made the ACCC title game. They should not have lost the Cal. But, yeah, it's. it's hard to handicap. It really is. But the ACC is kind of a mixed bag of I don't know right now. But here's the thing. The one we do know is Miami. It's just that they have not proven over the years that they can not slip up somewhere in the middle there.
Starting point is 00:55:38 But they also had never proven that Mario Cristobal wouldn't lose the high profile games in last year. And now they did. So yeah, this may be where all of the narratives get erased. And look, on paper they're the best team of the league. it's not close is it the best miami team of the christabal era i i think it's got a little work to do before it overcomes last year's but but you want to talk about signs of healthy growth yes the fact that we're even talking about this a year after making the national championship game and being 40 yards away from winning the whole freaking thing shows that miami might be here to stay but
Starting point is 00:56:12 so if i'm a canes fan i'm like jd chill chill please please don't find another school to do this too because we don't want to be your LSU from last year. I think he's safer. It's probably safe. I think he's safer. Probably maybe. Get your questions in. Dear Andy,
Starting point is 00:56:31 dear Ari on Friday. Plus we got a draft. You and I drafting the top venues in college football. Notice I didn't say home stadiums because I want to see where you put the Rose Bowl because we had that argument the other day. Well, here's the deal. I don't know where I'm picking in this. that draft.
Starting point is 00:56:51 But you guys, even if I'm third, if you guys take the Rose Bowl, I'm going to freak out. Well, it's just you and me. Okay. So it's going to be interesting to see where you put it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I've got a strategy. And I think I keep losing these drafts because I come in with a strategy and help think
Starting point is 00:57:07 myself. So you are always, listen. The best player available. And I'm always what's Andy going to do? After the greatest, who am I that we're ever going to have? I've got to keep rolling. Like, I've, I've been. like tortured by that too because you're walking
Starting point is 00:57:22 around. I had to like help Andy get into this hotel room because his head couldn't fit through the front door. But, uh, you know, I'm going to try to win this draft best venues will be good. We also have a topic that I think I want to discuss that we were going to today, but we ran out of time. Yes. Who, what would the NBA finals matchup be in college football? Oh, that's a good one. I think we should at least 10 minutes on that. Dear Andy question from our friend Ari. Uh, I like that's my question. Yeah. But it would be fun to
Starting point is 00:57:45 kind of think about that. I like that. I like that. Uh, and also one more thing. I noticed this on the message boards from KSR. So Kentucky got a really good basketball transfer. Milan Monmchilovich from Iowa State. This is the best transfer probably of the of the Mark Pope era. We still don't know if he's going to put together a good complete team, but that's not the issue right now. Right now, the folks at KSR are trying to figure out what do we call this guy? Because Milan-Momchilovich is a lot to say. And so they want to have a nice nickname for him. apparently people are calling him mommy and the folks on the on the message were the fan base at kentucky not keen on calling him mommy so will you pronounce his name again malan mom chillovich
Starting point is 00:58:34 mom chilevich i mean mom chilevich chili is obviously the answer here right oh i like that mom chill mom chill just chili chili pee kind of like jesse pinkman's formula i i i i i i i i Mommy, Mommy sounds bad though. Mommy! Like when he hits a three, Mommy! I've seen Serbian sniper. I like that. Serbian snipers pretty dirty, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:58 That is good. That is good. But mommy, yeah, you can't do Mommy. You're going to have to do something better. So if you have any suggestions, hit us up. Milan, Mom, Chillovich. Mom, chill! Before we get out of this thing, I wanted to ask you, because this is actually approaching real life for me,
Starting point is 00:59:16 what do you think is the price threshold where you have no choice but to upgrade to first class if it's offered to you. Under $50. No, under $75. Okay. You're not doing it. I just don't know. Yeah, I did it on the way here for $88.
Starting point is 00:59:33 That's not bad. And I thought that it was very pleasant. And now I'm being offered $140 and I don't know what to do. It's not worth it. Okay. It was such a delightful flight, Andy. I'm sure it was. I'm sure it was.
Starting point is 00:59:44 My flight and coach was delightful because I was asleep the entire time. So we'll be back tomorrow. Probably has some goodies about the video game. Ari will ask his question. Who knows? Maybe we'll answer yours. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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