Andy & Ari On3 - Is the BCS Formula a BETTER way to determine the College Football Playoff field?

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

As the College Football Playoff and its format has been a major discussion topic of the off-season, Andy presents a question: Would the BCS Formula be a better way to determine the College Football Playoff field? As Tennessee AD Danny White made the suggestion, Andy & Ari dive into what would really go behind that decision. Do you think the BCS formula would be a better alternative to what we have now?   (0:00) On Today’s Episode (1:11) Presenting Sponsor (3:07) Intro: BCS Formula (17:30) Why Danny White suggested the BCS formula (27:00) CFP Schedule revealed (31:14) Could the Rose Bowl be at night? (40:49) Tuesday Night Ranking Shows? (43:17) NFF reveals Hall of Fame ballot: Mike Leach (47:26) Other names on the list (57:26) EA Sports unveils the next CFB video game cover (1:03:01) Conclusion: See you tomorrow! After the guys close out the BCS formula discussion, Andy & Ari turn to more substantial news regarding the College Football Playoff. On Monday, the CFP announced the upcoming schedule for the 2026-2027 season. As a number of games on January 1st have yet to announce a start time, could the Rose Bowl be a night game? Andy & Ari debate.   The NFF College Football Hall of Fame has unveiled its 2027 ballot list, and it’s packed with many notable names throughout the history of college football. What names are a lock to make the list? Who will get in?       Thanks for watching! See you tomorrow!   Send your questions to: [e-mail] [e-mail]   Our show is also presented by BetMGM!   If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works:   1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB. 2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game. 3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sure you use bonus code CFB when you sign up!   Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary.   See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. This promotional offer is not available in DC, Mississippi, New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or 1-800-MY-RESET (Available in the US) . 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only (if applicable). Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel   Join On3 today! https://www.on3.com/join   Watch our show on YouTube! https://youtu.be/yPZ5SjCIuOA   Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari Wasserman Producer: River Bailey   Interested in partnering with the show? Email [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today is Andy and Ari on 3 presented by BetMGM. Would the BCS formula or something like it be a better way to pick the teams for the college football playoff, no matter the size of the CFP field? We ask that question today and examine what the CFP would look like the last 12 years using the BCS formula. Plus, the actual schedule for the college football playoff following the 2016 season is out. We know when games will be played almost all of the games when they'll be played. We'll talk about that. Talk about the possibility of a Knight Rose Bowl. And Ari's, he might shed some tears over that.

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week and Tennessee athletic director Danny White said something. really interesting, I found really interesting. He said, why not have something more similar to the BCS standings to pick the college football playoff teams where you could have humans involved, but also some computer rankings that people understand. Isn't it funny? And you were in the business during the BCS era longer than I was. But it is funny because during the BCS era, my memory at least serves, and you correct me if I'm wrong here, Andy, was that computers can't differentiate ball the way people can and they hated the computers. And now that we have people, they long for the computers because they think that there's bias involved and blah, blah, and around and around

we go. And like, I don't know what you found. I read your story a few days ago when it, when it posted. But aren't the results of who would have gotten in, by and large, mostly the same, most of the time? Well, that's what I found is so interesting. When I tweeted the story, there were so many people say, this is what I've been begging for. We got to do this. Get those biased humans out of it. First of all, they don't remember that the computers were only a third of it. Yeah.

And probably wouldn't be much more than that if you did this again. Maybe you make them half. I don't know. But the computers and the humans, because the humans in these polls were, they were just using the AP poll and the coaches poll. So those people were worse than bias. people were unaware. Thanks to Asher Feldman at BCS Knowhow.com, who has simulated this every single year

since the BCS died. And what Asher did is use the AP poll instead of the Harris poll, which was the other human poll that was used at the end of the BCS. Because remember, the AP poll pulled out of it because voters in the AP poll were like, hey, I can't vote in this thing if it's going to actually decide who makes the championship game. And so they created a Harris poll so that people who had no objection to being part of the newsmaking process could vote. The point of all this is the people, whether they're poll voters or committee members, and the computer rankings pick almost exactly the same teams. Yeah.

What we trust them more is the question if we added some computers. So I think that it's easy to say that we might trust them more, Andy, because with computers, they're just going on raw data. There's no human emotion to it. But a human created the formula and decided what the computer thought was important. Yeah. You can't change that once the season starts. Correct. So like that's the thing that, like, that's how we're doing it.

That's how we're doing it. But that's what it is. And I think that from that standpoint, like if there is somebody, the one thing that I can't get around, and I know that it's true in both basketball and football and it's something that happens is that there are people that serve on the committee, Andy, who have inherent bias and affiliations with the places that are being discussed currently. And I know that there are recusals and I understand that people aren't allowed to be in the room and, you know, yada, yada, yada. But I don't know why we can't form a committee. And maybe it's impossible. Maybe you think that it's just too many old people and there needs to be more, you know,

unbiased younger people in the room, how we can't form a committee where it isn't of athletic directors who serve at programs that are going to be in the mix. Like, like, I thought that. Let me stop you right there. Let me stop you right there. There are no unbiased people. There aren't. Everyone can try to be unbiased.

And I firmly believe the people who serve on the committee do their best to put their biases aside. I just think everybody has a life experience and everybody processes information based on their life experience. So two retorts to that. Two retorts to that. One, I might like the Cleveland Browns. So if I were reporting on the Cleveland Browns, I would have inherent bias. Would you say that you could ramp up the intensity of the bias if I got 100 grand every time they won? Correct.

I think that current affiliation with a place leads to more intense bias based on personal interests that don't exist. I think there are levels to bias that exist. And if you take the current ADs out of the room, maybe you don't have to kick people out of the room when you're voting as often. Secondly, from an optic standpoint, what happened with North Carolina's basketball? basketball team two tournaments ago is just, and I'm not accusing anybody of doing anything wrong. I just think optically it was terrible. Right. Yeah, Bob Cunningham, not even in the room when they're talking about North Carolina,

but he's the chair of the committee and they're the last team in. And yeah, it's going to look like that. It just looks like that, whether it is or not. And I'm with you, Andy, I actually believe that the people who athletic directors for the most part, right, don't take this much success in life and get these positions without being successful, like reasonable people, right? Like so from that standpoint, like I really do at my core believe that the selection process is uncompromised and people are doing it in good faith. I really truly believe that.

And, you know, I almost resent the fact that everything in life has to get whittled down to some conspiracy theory bias bullshit. And like most of the time, that's not true. That said, I understand when people get upset and they see something they don't like and then they start doing the parallels and they go, well, that person is actually affiliated with the team right now. It's like, why can't we come up with a committee where that doesn't exist, which may be harder, maybe harder than it seems. No, you can very easily do it where the people are not getting paid by that athletic department. In the moment.

Now, like, that to me would be my own. But here's the other thing about this, Andy, that I'm like just, just amused by generally on an annual basis, which is, you know, I think that we make a lot of, of, of hey every single year, me and you, and everybody else in college football media discussing why the playoff committee is doing what they're doing on a week-to-week basis during the show. I also think that there is controversy

a lot of times throughout the year that, you know, frankly, doesn't end up being all that important in the final rankings. But the fact of the matter is, is my personal belief when it comes to this, whether it's a computer or a committee, is that every time, maybe this year was a little bit different.

Maybe the Florida State situation a few years ago was a little bit different. But most of the time, if not every time, they've just put in the teams that everybody would put in. That's the point. That's the part people miss. Like everybody who thinks there's going to be this vast difference, there's not. There will be some key differences, though. Let's look at some individual situations. So I went back and using BCS Knowhow.com, I looked at the last 12 seasons.

So all of the seasons of the college football playoff, the beauty of it is we can pretend there was a 12 team playoff from 2014 to 23 because we have the rankings. We know what the committee ranked everybody at the end of the season. Now, you and I have talked about they might tweet things if they know it's 12, but generally works fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seven of the 12 years, the BCS computers and the committee would have produced the same 12-team field.

like seating might have been a little different. So somebody else, you know, somebody has to play somebody different in round one, but the same 12. So that's most of the time. And you know what? It's funny that you say that because it sounds like most of the time.

It's actually fewer times than I would have guessed off the top of my head. Well, but here's the thing. Do you know how many times there were more than two different teams in the field out of the 12-year sample? More than two different teams. Zero, I would guess. Zero.

Right. And the five times the field was different. It was by one team every time. So this past season, and this is really interesting, because this gets into the meat of the debate. We start pulling, then we start pulling scabs off now. Oh, yeah. So this past year, Notre Dame would have made it in over Miami.

And in fact, Notre Dame would have been ranked ahead of Alabama using the BCS formula. Notre Dame would have been the number nine team, Alabama number 10. And remember, there were two automatic qualifiers. getting pulled up. So 11 and 12 get knocked out. So Notre Dame would have been knocked out in this situation. Uh, excuse me, Miami would have been knocked out in this situation as the number 11 team, BYU as the number 12 team would have been knocked out. The more interesting piece of this is not that because I think, you know, the humans, most of the humans probably had Notre Dame one behind Miami. So they were right next to the same.

to each other so the computers could flip it. The computers, if we go back to the week of the first committee ranking, what did you and I say? The original sin of all this was the human beings ranking Miami eight spots behind Notre Dame when they had an identical record in Miami had beaten Notre Dame head. And the ironic part about that, Andy, is that the humans are supposed to be on the committee to fix nonsensical errors at a computer. right.

And they created one. The humans and the, and the computers that do the BCS formula, also had Miami eight spots behind Notre Dame, despite Miami having an identical record and a head-to-head went. So computers are just as dumb as humans in that aspect. And the humans exist in that room to fix that computer problem. And they didn't.

Like, they didn't do it this year. So here's the other thing that I just like I don't know because like you said, it wasn't the full, it wasn't just a computer and then they just, that's what they said or that's what they did with the, you know, the computer was only a portion of it. If the computer and the committee both existed in this past year and they split out the different results, which were Notre Dame's placement in the poll, who wins the tiebreaker? I don't know. And if it's humans, then what did the computer do? Right. Well, and producer River asked a really good question. This is something that also I don't think the average person is considering. River asked, do you think there are humans and they're using the computer formula when considering rankings? Absolutely. There are humans in the committee room, all of them being presented with different rankings. They're being presented with Sagrin, with Anderson, with Billingsley, SP Plus, which is not part of the BCS formula, but is a, is a, a response.

ranking. These are more predictive rankings. And they also, by the way, are formulated in different ways by their creators, depending on what you want. Like the version of Sagrin and the BCS formula, I believe, is the ELL chess version that is not the purely predictive one. And there's a different version of Sagrin. So you can make this, it's not you can make it say what you want. It is a lot of the humans are being informed. by rankings that are similar to the computer rankings that were used to be a which is the funniest part of this entire discussion Andy the computers are still involved even if they're not involved in the actual decision making but like but if you make them

explicitly involved does it make people trusted more I okay here's my thinking on this what is the what is the if we take the world outside of sports we talk about the grand wider world what concept is the most controversial concept in the world right now. Am I supposed to know the answer to this? Artificial intelligence. Oh, okay. Yeah. Got it. I'm like, you're asking the wrong guy here.

Yes. No, it's AI. The biggest debate in the world is over how, what do we let AI do? You just like we just had a state, the state of Florida, sue open AI. Like, everybody's worried about AI. So I don't think people would generally trust. if you just turned it all over to a computer formula

or to a series of an average of multiple computer formulas. I think you would want to mix the human element and the computer element. The question is, what's the mix? Because the VCS was two-thirds,

human one-third computer. Do you want to do that? Do you want to do half and half? Because I do think people don't trust the humans. People really don't trust the computers by themselves. but would they trust the mix?

Here's the actual reality to it, Andy. It doesn't matter what the formula is if there's going to be loud people at the end of every year yelling about it if they're upset, right? Like if you don't like the result of the thing, you will find fault in the thing rather than recognizing your team probably wasn't very good. So like, let me ask you this because I wasn't there

and I'm curious. What was Danny White's premise? Why did he say that and what was he getting at? It was interesting. he said it's because of basketball. Because he knows in basketball that he will be rewarded for scheduling a hard schedule. He understands the way the committee works. He understands what the committee values.

While most people probably couldn't tell you how the net ranking is calculated, they know exactly what a quad one win is and what it means. Yeah. And basketball's found a way to make that digestible to everybody, to make it understandable. And my contention is there's a lot more data points in basketball. It's a lot easier to do. But theoretically, that could work.

Because I think that's the fear. And I think these ADs are looking at it a couple of ways. One, I want to get my team into the college football playoff, but two, I want to sell tickets. I want my league to have good games on TV so we make more money next time in our next contract. And so somebody asked Danny White, about the nine-game SEC schedule, thinking he was going to say, well, this is the worst thing ever we've been Hoodwinkton. He's like, this is the best home schedule in Tennessee history,

and I'm really excited because people want to buy tickets for that. Yeah, well, what are the things that college basketball present in the committee projection stage of March madness, the beginning, the month leading into March, that makes it more digestible to fans than it does in football? And what's the difference between, understanding what a quad one win is and what a top 10 win is. Like, it's just different verbiage, but I think that well, college football fan. Quad one is actually a better metric because it is also an arbitrary cutoff line, but you also have quad two and quad three and quad four that you can kind of,

you'll have them all. So you have to draw lines at some point, but top 10 and top 25 are very arbitrary lines. Like, at least it's a percentage with the quads. And they'll wait road games and home games a little bit differently. But typically a quad one win means a win against a team in the top 25% of division. But from a digestibility standpoint, though, don't you think that college football is still pretty straightforward and who you beat and how tough of a win that was?

But they're not, you don't see them doing that. Like, I would love a breakout. Hell, use a quad system. Yeah, what's the stop football from doing the quad system? Nothing. I'm a bad at math guy. Maybe there's a math element to this, then I'm not understanding. But you have to decide what ranking you're using to cut the line, you know, draw the lines.

Yeah. Like I don't, like, for example, we love our friend Bill Connolly. SP Plus is a great ranking. Bill works for ESPN though. Like if I'm the Big Ten, I don't want anybody who works for ESPN having a ranking that that's, that's that powerful. Yeah. So I would want to go independent. And, but you can find somebody.

like if you want to use Sagan, if you want to use a Sagram E-L-O chess and say, here's the line for the 25% mark, the 50% mark, the 75% mark. We'll create quad one through four. And everybody's record can be tallied each week. And so when Alabama wants to make the argument of we played a grind of a schedule

and you see that they are five and one or five, they're five and two in quad one games and 3 and 0 in Quad 2 games. And then some other team is 1 in Quad 1 games and 8 and 1 in Quad 2 games. Well, I feel like that's a pretty interesting differentiator. But this also gets back to the core of the issue in college football, which is A, there's not enough data points.

And B, there's very, like, especially now that people are canceling a bunch of non-conference games. Right. if you siloed to really know because I think you don't exactly you're getting rid of the data points that would actually help you yeah and that's this is this is a problem this is the snake eating its own tail is these guys aren't going to schedule better games until they are proven to matter to the committee which makes me upset because I think they already are they are but if you go 12 and oh you're in so schedule the easiest schedule you can make yeah I still think that it's beyond the shadow of a doubt true that having quality wins in the non-conference aid you in being successful in the I agree.

The biggest win last year, the biggest win last year was Miami beating Notre Dame. It makes me upset that we have to like continue to have this conversation because it's not true. But, you know, I also understand too that if you have the easiest schedule ever and go 12. know you're probably going to get in, but the fact of the matter is in the SEC, like the extra hard games in the non-conference should be viewed as like a bonus because you're going to have a hard schedule according to them anyway, no matter what. But it's not viewed as a bonus. It's viewed as a detriment.

And that's the problem. We need them to think that these are a bonus and they don't. And so that's what we're waiting on right now is can somebody figure out a way to incentivize hard scheduling because again, the field size does not matter. You want to protect the regular season? Give people reasons to schedule good games. That is how you protect the regular season. Now, you're seeing leagues potentially take this into their own hands.

The Big 12 is talking about this. They talked about this at their meeting last week, a 10-game conference schedule. If their teams won't schedule good games, they will schedule better games for them. Yeah, and that's just hope we get to a point where people don't have the ability to misunderstand how the system works on purpose to make a point. Because my entire theory about that is, is everybody who's playing dumb about the importance of non-conference games are just doing it in a way to throw a hissy fit about what happened and didn't go their way the year before. And the thing is, it's never going to go away. If you think somebody's just to be like, well, we tried, we gave it the good honest effort. We just came up a little short.

No one's ever going to say that. Yeah. They're going to bitch and moan. if they get left out. They're going to bitch and moan, and then we have to digest nonsensical, untrue talking points. Welcome to the discourse in 2026. But it's just like that's the hardest part about the differentiating between the two.

But in terms of whether the computer would be a better way, my actual opinion is it would probably be the same exact way. And people would just get mad about it in a different way. And I don't really know that there's a major problem. Like everybody is always constantly trying to solve the problem of how we put the teams in the playoff. And the thing is like there may not be an actual problem. It just may be that you didn't get what you wanted this time. That's what I'm trying to say.

We're trying so hard every year to examine the problem with the college football playoff committee, the show, the selection process, and no one stops to think, hey, they're doing a pretty good job. Like, it's all like, it's not a, not everything needs to be fixed. Like, I feel like in college football, the offseason is reserved for six months. I'll teach you something about the world. in this modern era. If I don't get everything I want, you've got to fix it. It's basically everyone's a toddler.

Yeah. That's what it is. My kids were three. That's how they acted. We've been on beats. We are from places. We went to college. Like you said, everybody has worldviews that are shaped by their human experience.

I think we pride ourselves very much so on being an unbiased and real show, trying to discuss things without any allegiance. And I think that you and I can both agree that the committee has done a pretty good job, right? I would be fine either way. If you wanted to do the committee from now on, that's fine. If you wanted to do two-thirds committee, one-third average of computer rings,

or even half and half, it would not bother me because I know the results are going to be generally the same. Exactly. 100%. I'm with you. But if it makes you feel better about it, didn't do it. You know that it, like, it is funny, though.

If they did somehow decide to go back to the computers, like the exact same discourse would happen the following off season about, did we make a mistake going to the computers? Like, there's no- 100%. If there are 12 teams in the playoff, the last team that got left out of the at-large pool will bitch and moan. If there are 24 teams in the playoff, the last team that got left out of the at-large pool,

will bitch and moan. They will do that. That is how the world works. But we both also agree that the committee didn't mess up last year during the process. I think that they didn't. What's crazy is the computers also did. Yeah. So even the number one problem that you think you're solving with the computers wouldn't have been solved.

Like, I'm just happy. I would much rather than mess up during the process and get it right at the end than mess it up or do it right during the process and mess it up at the end. So I still think they get a passing grade for last year. But the committee's execution of the ranking show and how they rank the team's leading into the final was this was the worst version of it in the entire history of the playoff, right? Yeah, I agree. All right, let's talk about, we'll move away from hypothetical college football playoffs

to real high, real college football playoffs. We have a schedule for the college football playoff that will follow this coming season. So we know now that first round games, obviously, we don't even know where they are yet, that we don't find that out until Selection Sunday. it's the same schedule as last year where there is an 8 p.m. primetime game. This was the Alabama Oklahoma game last year on campus, on Friday night, on Saturday, December 19th, noon game on ESPN.

That's going to be the best game of that day. That was the Miami, Texas A&M game last year. So whatever the people in charge think is going to be the most interesting game, they're going to put them in those two spots. the ones they've sold off to T&T, you can also watch them on HBO Max, 3.30 p.m. Eastern Time on the 19th, 7.30 p.m. Eastern time on the 19th. Those are the ones that are going to have to compete with NFL games. So those will be the games that they don't think are that good. I kind of hope we get a good one in there. I want to see a barn burner of a college football playoff game and see how that works against an NFL game.

Yeah. I mean, I hope they're all good, obviously. So do you. But there's, we already talked about this. I don't care how long the season goes. I think people are upset that there are 52 days, I believe, since the end of the regular season and the national championship game. Yeah. Yeah, this does not need,

this stretches out as long as it does because of where January 1st falls in the calendar and also where the next, you know, Thursday, Friday. That's why it's happening this way. So let's get to the quarterfinals because this is the part that's interesting. interesting. The Fiesta Bowl will be on December 30th, not New Year's Eve because that's a, that's an NFL night. But the Fiesta Bowl will be December 30th. It'll be 7.30 p.m. Eastern Time. It'll be on T&T,

True TV, HBO, Max. So they've sold that. They've also sold the semi-final in the Orange Bowl to T&T. So ESPN trying to get some cash here licensing these games out. Let us move to January 1st. The noon game will be on T&T. The middle time, 4 p.m. Eastern time, that is the traditional Rose Bowl slot. It'll be on ABC and ESPN. The plan, based on what I'm seeing, this is the one that is simulcast on ABC and ESPN in this round. The plan is for that to be the Rose Bowl.

But if they get a better storyline in the Sugar Bowl, it'll be the Sugar Bowl. So it probably will be the Rose Bowl, but depending on what the matchups are and how the bracket plays out for that round, there is a chance that the second option for the night game will be chosen to be the Rose Bowl, which means this will be the first time that the Rose Bowl kicks off at night since Vince Young. Excuse me. I said Sugar Bowl. I meant Cotton Bowl. Either way. That's not that. Or the Peach Bowl.

One of those, one of those, yeah. But so let me ask you this. I think we've talked about this in the past. I can't remember who I argue with. I get in so many arguments about college football, Andy, I can't remember who the aggressor on the other side is. But I'm very precious about the Rose Bowl. You know this.

Yeah, I mean, you're a little tenor. Like, those, which I don't understand. You grew up with good weather. Like, why do you care? Like, I grew up with good weather. I don't care about having good weather in January. Like, you don't have to make that a life goal or the goal of your entire season to get good weather in January. Some of us choose to live in it.

Let me ask you this. I know that you live in beautiful weather all around, although I'll make the case that Florida isn't perfect all the time. I think, No, no, our weather in the summer sucks, but our weather in January is pretty freaking awesome. There's nothing to leave in January. Yeah, but let me ask you,

you've covered many Rose Bowls. In fact, you covered the last time the Rose Bowl was at night, which is the young USC game, which is 20 years ago now, 20 plus years ago. in the time in all the Rose Bowl's that you've covered, do you think there's something special about that setting, that location, that sunset, that game, or do you think that it blends in with all the other postseason games?

Oh, it's special. It's more interesting than all the other settings in the antiseptic NFL stadiums. But also, that Texas USC game is one of the best games I've ever seen in my life. and it was awesome at the Rose Bowl, and I'm glad it was at the Rose Bowl. I don't give a crap when it kicked off.

It's still better than any other game that's been played at the Rose Bowl. Yeah. I actually think that I am being pretty good in my life about not caring about tradition. I understand that everything is about money and television slots and all these different things and that teams have to put, you know, jersey ads

or whatever they have to do on the field, rename, wear alternate uniforms, whatever they have to do to satisfy whatever company is going to write the biggest check in order to keep up. But I do, so I don't find myself to be much of a traditionalist, Annie, but I do think that, like, there is some stuff that is just worth protecting. And I think that the Rose Bowl is one of them. I think that the Rose Bowl sunset, the Rose Bowl noon situation, everything about that.

No, there's no noon situation at the Rose Bowl. What do you mean? Well, they kick off at one, I guess. Yeah, yeah, I just mean like middle of the day, you know. Yeah. So the second half starts. during sunset. I think that that is the way that it should always be. And it's unfortunate, but this is yet another casualty of more. Like, it's like, it's one thing if you wanted to change

the time period. Ari, if there had been a cool sunset in the fourth quarter of the Vince Young, Matt Liner, Reggie Bush game. It would have been better to me. I would have not cared one bit. I was not watching the freaking sun or the lights or the mountains. I was watching this. I was watching Vince Young. But here's the thing that I resent about it. And maybe this is just me being me. But I understand changing the calendar. I understand doing all these different things that don't jive with the history of college football for the sake of making things work. It bothers me that even if you don't care about the sunset or even if you don't think the Rose Bowl is special, that people who do like me don't get that this year because we need to satisfy television greed more.

Like it's the reason we're moving it that bothers me. It's like how many things can television greed take from college football before someone's like, enough's enough. Like, and that, and that's kind of like the core of the issue here. If the game, Rose Bowl held the sport hostage for too long anyway.

I don't really care. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that like the Rose Bowl has maybe acted irrationally in the past, certainly. But I also think that when you think of college football, I mean,

one of the five first things that come into my head are the Rose Bowl. So, um, you know, for me, it should be the national championship championship game every year. But, you know,

when that would start 8 p.m. Eastern time, 5 p.m. local. If you actually agree with that or you believe that, if you think it should be the national championship game every year, then that means that you do kind of view it in the same vein that I do. Doesn't it kind of suck? I do, but I don't care about the sunset. I know, but I live in the Keys as a kid. Every sunset, every sunset, every night was better than that sunset. I grew up in Phoenix. Oh, what? I grew up in Phoenix and Phoenix has elite sunsets every night. The

Rose Bowl sunset has changes colors that I've never seen before. I didn't even know they were on the, on the, on the, what is it? What's the chart of color? Spectrum. Spectrum, yeah. So, you know, I guess, like, again, it's not even just the sunset. It's the time in which the game is played. It's a day game. It's beautiful outside.

It's just a wonderful setting. And just one more thing that we don't get to experience because television needs to line their pockets. Again, I was there when Vince Young went to the pylon. The enjoyment of that moment was not one bit affected by the time of day. You know that by the time Vince Young went to the pylon, he would have it would have been dark out anyway that's how it works okay then you really wasn't affected at all who cares they warmed up with the sunset it was awesome it was beautiful watching them warm up Ari beautiful wasn't it yeah California is unlike any other place dude and I don't care what you

say I know the keys are great I as you know about me I'm a California sucker and maybe part of that is like you don't understand I grew up on the West Coast you don't actually live there you just pine for it You just want to pay them all that money to live there and then pay them all that money in taxes. I will do that eventually. You're because you're a sucker. I am a sucker. But I think that you and I at least agree on this one thing. Can't college football keep anything or is just college football the personal piggy bank of television deals?

If they would turn down the money and say we would like this to be at this time, ESPN would say, okay cool we'll give you less for it all they have to say is okay cool we'll take less for it the first the next time they do that will be the first so don't blame tv for this blame the people making the deals with tv if me you and river did a draft and maybe this will be a good thing a good idea and i don't know how we would quantify but if we did a draft of college football games of just not teams or a specific game but setting or locations or great bowls or championship or whatever do you think the rose bowl would be the number one overall pick for all three of us are you talking about you're talking about venues for college football games yeah it sure as

hell wouldn't for me river pop up what's up you're an SEC guy yeah grow up in beautiful rogersville tennessee mm-hmm are you present about the Rose Bowl at all. Well, I have no memories with the Rose Bowl personally. Tennessee is not doing a lot of Rose Bowl. Yeah. I mean, it's cool. Should have won that SEC championship game in 2001,

then they would have gotten the player. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's cool. So do you think that my background in where I'm from and who I covered professionally has an impact on this? Yes. Probably. Because people in the Midwest grew up pining for the Rose Bowl.

The ultimate prize was to go get a week of nice way. whether in January, it's like those people didn't realize you can just move to that. But I loved the Rose Bowl. You never heard of him. You could just live in it all the time. The Rose Bowl before I moved to Columbus though, so maybe I'm just weird. What is there a Pact 10 school? Yeah.

I did go to a Pact 10 school. Andy, do you think there's a New Year 6 bowl that SEC fans are precious about? Uh, that traditionally the Sugar Bowl, but they don't care. Like every, every home venue in the SEC is better than the Superdome. And that's someone got kind of replaced by the SEC champion. championship game for a few decades too, right? Like, wasn't that the place? I guess, but again,

every SEC venue is better than Mercedes Ben Stadium in Atlanta. Or the Superdome in New Orleans. That's the thing. If we're having a draft of venues, I might have the Rose Bowl on my big board, but LSU's

number one. LSU's 1-1. It's not close. Yeah. I think that I just view it differently. I don't like, because I don't think that I would sit here and tell you that like and I've never been to a game at Tiger Stadium at night which I hopefully will fix here in the next year or so but like I'm under no illusions that the atmosphere in a big time SEC night game is louder and more intense but but what's would you take a white out over the Rose Bowl because I probably would I wouldn't take anything over the Rose Bowl

yeah I I take almost all of those campus sites over it yeah would you rather cover a game in Pasadena when mountains turn purple or it be louder Like, I think I would take the mountains. No. Give me Kyle Field. Give me the swamp. Give me the horseshoe. Give me Michigan Stadium.

Give me Austin. I'll take them all. Yeah. But I think that there's a lesson here, whether you agree with me or not. And that lesson is nothing is sacred. Everything's for sale. Well, again, the next time they take less money to get the thing they want or to protect a tradition, well, it won't be the first time because they did spend a whole

lot of time taking less money to protect the Rose Bowl tradition, which is why we didn't get a playoff until 2014. Yeah, so screw the roll. It's probably also part of my anti-Rose Bowl stance. Yeah. Because a bunch of people who are super precious about a sunset. Like me, yeah. Kept the sport from choosing a national champion in a more common sense way. Let me, let me throw out in all the branch to you. If it meant no, if I had to like say no playoff, To preserve the road bowl or playoff to remove the Rose Bowl from existence, I would still choose the playoff.

Okay, good to hear. Yeah. Because my thing was always, it's a stadium. It's in a nice place, but it's just a stadium. There's nothing truly special about it. The thing we're a track of a ball. The plate is where it is and when it is. Sure.

Yeah. But it's not that special. It's not any more special than Tiger Stadium on a Saturday night. It's not any more special than Beaver Stadium in a White House. out, it's not. I should have been wearing a resort hat while we were doing this segment. You should have. You should have. Producer River keeps asking us, by the way, did we hear anything about the Tuesday night shows? We didn't hear anything about the Tuesday night shows. Nothing changed, no. Nothing has changed. I don't think anything is changed. They said at the CFP.

I was talking to people involved in the show at the CFP meeting out here in Dallas last month about whether there will be changes to the actual show. They are discussing that internally about ways of changing it. But like we've had this discussion before. Like I don't know what there is the change. But what I do know for sure is that there still will be a show. Yeah. And I talk to some people at the spring meetings I've been to. And there is, they're kicking around some things, like maybe doing the interview a little bit differently. But I think that that's all really, really, really stupid because at the same time, like the only thing that really matters is what are the rankings and when are they released? Like, it doesn't matter how you present them. If the

rankings are wrong after the presentation. The problem isn't going to be with the interview or what time the game. It's always about when is it released and what does it say? Like they could remove the ranking show. Like last year, if you removed the ranking show from existence and every Tuesday night they just sent out an email with a PDF of the top 25, the same issue would have happened. Like the show did nothing to exasperate. A hundred percent.

Exasperate Notre Dame situation. The creating more grist for the content mill, which is the point of the show, show. If you just have that PDF, there's plenty of grist. You know, I've gotten, I've gotten into arguments with people, most notably of Dan, you know, text message argument with Dan Rubenstein from the solid verbal. And he's one of these weirdos that's like, let's just go. I'm going on their Sark Tank episode next week. Oh, you are? Oh, yeah. I'm kind of bitter that I wasn't asked to do it, to be honest. Yeah. I text Dan all the time about life and stuff. So I don't know why they would choose you. Maybe it's because you're handsome. Because I put on a suit for them.

You do? So I can be one of the, one of the sarks. Yeah. The sark tank thing is hilarious, but he's one of the people that wants to go through the season without any update, which I think is insane. But, you know, I agree. I think there's more, I do think there are more of those people than you believe. I don't think it's most people, but I think there's a lot bigger chunk of people that feel that way than you do. There are a lot of people in prison for murder, Andy. It doesn't make it normal. Not that many. From a percentage standpoint, minuscule percentage compared to the one I'm talking about. So, all right, we will find out more about the Tuesday night ranking shows as we get closer to the season. Ari, other news this week, the National Football

Foundation has revealed the ballot for the 2007 College Football Hall of Fame class. This has been a ballot has been pretty eagerly waited because this is the first one since they changed the criteria for coaches to get in and it allows Mike Leach to be on the ballot. So before they had a pretty strict win percentage, career win percentage. And the argument from the folks who would like to see Mike Leach and shrine in the Hall Fame is here's this guy who changed football at every level. The three teams he was a head coach for are places where it's traditionally hard to win. and you're not going to have the highest all-time win percentage if you worked at places where it's

traditionally harder to win. So they changed rules. Mike Leach is on the ballot. I am betting Mike Leach gets in this year. But Ari, I look down this ballot. The people with the National Football Foundation who ultimately decide, the jury who ultimately decides who gets into the Hall of Fame, they, have an almost impossible task. Yeah, it kind of feels like this every year because don't they put like 200 names on the list and they've got to like get 10%.

To whittle it down. Yeah, 22 people were enshrined last year. You know, so the you're looking at about, you know, 20 or so people, maybe a little more that would get enshrined. But let me just. Do you want to have 30 second leech discussion real quick? Yeah, absolutely. It's just like I think it's important because the there are some people I've seen online that are like, like why are we changing the rules? And I guess those people are the worst people. A guy like Mike Leach should not be left. If you don't have Mike Leach in the college football Hall of Fame, you don't, you shouldn't have a Hall of Fame. Like this is a man who affected the sport at every level.

The offense he created, well, he and Hal Mummy created, but he sort of perfected it, became the most run offense in high school in America. Concepts from this offense are now part of every NFL team's playbook. They're part of almost every college football teams play. Basically everybody but the triple option teams. He just, he had that big of an effect on the sport.

And he turned three places that aren't easy to win at. He definitely won bigger than anybody at Texas Tech, won as big as anybody at Washington State. We don't know what would have happened at Mississippi State because unfortunately he passed away. Yeah. It would have been really interesting to see how he would have. You ever think about Mike Leach in the NIL era, like in this, in like this year? Yeah, I'm not entirely sure he would have thrived because it's interesting because he was one of the first people to say publicly,

you should collectively bargain with the players. Yeah. Do a CBA. But he was very old school as a coach. Yeah, for sure. You smoke pot. I'm kicking you off the team kind of old school. Yeah. And I don't know how well he would have adjusted to the era.

The professionalization of amateurs would have been a struggle for him, I think. Yeah, because within his own team, he kind of ruled with an iron fist. Right. And a lot of the goofy quotes and all that stuff, you didn't see that side of it. But on a day-to-day basis, he's a very old. coach. Yeah. But I think that he's unequivocally belonging, deserving of belonging.

And I know that there might be some people who think, well, if he passed, he passed away, and then they started the rules. Like, that's just a terrible way to look at it. And I just wanted to say that. But like this long list here, Andy, there's a lot of names here. And let me just give you some of these. And I'm, this isn't by no means the complete list. We don't have time for that.

But I want to, I want to just put Ari's brain in a pretzel with some of these people. people. And I just want you guys to think about this. And oh, by the way, we do have who am I coming up on Wednesday. So maybe I'm trying to give myself a little help because maybe I'll, I'll intercept Ari. It'll help me remember who it is. But Flozel, the Motel Adams from Michigan State. Tavon Austin, Ari, you know this. because you live through this producer river pop up please you remember taybaud austin not vividly but i've seen the youtube video highlights enough to understand people producer river rivers age and younger right at your homework assignment after the show is just type taevan austin's name into youtube

and thank us later great guy that went viral when i was in college on youtube because he would go to frat parties using like hit on girls and like his pickup line was watch this highlight tape with me and it was Tavon Austin. The next name under Tavon Austin are who am I from last week, Brad Banks. Yes. Iowa quarterback. Kenyon Barner, Oregon running back. Alex Brown, Florida defensive lineman.

Producer River was about to turn one when Alex Brown had five sacks of T. Martin in one game in 1999 in Swamp. Rocky Calma, Oklahoma linebacker, Antonio Bryant, Pittsburgh receiver. Chris Carter, Ohio State receiver. And Kevin,

Hunter, Florida defensive end. Good God, we're in the seas. As Andy is going through this list, I'm looking at it too. And he is skipping over and necessarily just to get through it. Some freaking studs like Adrian Clayburn and Randall.

Yeah, I was about to say Adrian Clayburn's name Adrian Clymer was an Iowa defensive end was dominant, like the play against Penn State in the Whiteout. Maybe the best play of visiting player has made a whiteout. Yeah. Golly. Randall Cobb from Kentucky.

He was freaking awesome. Yeah. David DeCastro, probably the best offensive lineman of that Jim Harbaugh, David Shaw, Stanford era. God, Ken Dorsey, another who am I? Elvis Doberville from Louisville. Good Lord.

Have you looked at this list and started to feel a little bit older as a result? Oh, my God. Yeah. And there's a lot of names some guys going on right here now, but it's, it's good to appreciate this. So Alan Fannick is on this list. And I've told this story on the show before when I was asked to play Alan Fannica on the scout team. Alan Fannick was a guard at LSU.

He's, I believe he's already in NFL Hall of Famer. He played for the Steelers and was just a phenomenal offensive lineman for the Steelers. The things he had to do in LSU's offense, no offensive linemen should be capable of. Yeah. The level of athlete this man was, was off the charts. So yeah, he should be in the college football Hall of Fame. But he's also, he's up against Tony Gonzalez, Cal tight end. Melvin Gordon.

Unbelievable dominant running back at Wisconsin. Tennessee safety, Dionne Grant. RG3. RG3 is on the list. Kevin Hardy. Illinois linebacker. We're in the freaking H's. Oh, we're still in the HAs.

Percy Harvin. Like, as someone who watched Percy Harvin play, pretty much every game of consequence he played at Florida. That's another one. I feel like you may as well not have a Hall of Fame if he's not in it. He's in it right now, right?

Like that's like, and you go through the list and you could, like, there's nobody on the list. I don't know because the next name's A.J. Hawk. How's A.J. Hawke already in it. My, you know my opinion about Percy Harvin. I think he's one of the five best players has ever played the game. Yeah.

So, you know. Hey, Barrett Jones, his real, really good example. Barrett Jones, not a big example. NFL career. Barrett Jones was an incredible offensive lineman at Alabama, four-year starter, won the Allen Trophy, played three different positions for Alabama, won three national titles. Like, that's the epitome of a college football hall of fame. By the way, also great student at Alabama, got incredible grades. He won the Campbell Trophy in 2012, which is basically the academic heisman. Like, that's the kind of guy who should be in the college football Hall of Fame,

no-brainer because like he's not going to be in the pro football hall of fame. Alan Fanica, okay, he's getting the yellow jacket, the gold jacket. Do you think that's not going to happen for Barrett Jones, but he was out, he was an all-time great college player. Do you think that like not being an all-time NFL player should help your, your chances of college football Hall of Fame inclusion? Or do you think it should just not? No, I don't think you should help or hurt.

I think everybody should sort of be evaluated on their own, but I don't think it should hurt you. I don't think because you didn't have a successful NFL career, that it should diminish what you did in college. But like it kind of reminds me of like the draft that we did last week. Now I understood why you took Patrick Mahomes in your... But Patrick Mahomes had played with a terrible defense in a bad offensive line. If you put Patrick Mahones on the teams of the player, the other guys we picked,

we had James Winston, right? Imagine Patrick Mahomes playing with the players James Winston played with at Florida State. But if Patrick Mahomes would have tore his ACL so bad he could never play football again at the combine before the NFL draft, would he have been on your list? That's a good question. So that's the thing. It's like, is Patrick Mahomes a college football hall of famer? Probably not, right? Like, in comparison.

He might be. Because I don't know. His numbers are as good as a lot of the quarterbacks in there. Yeah, I'm not saying he was bad. good teams. But it's just I do think that like Josh Hype. Yeah. Like you can you can argue that Patrick Mahomes should have made Texas Tech better if he was that great. But I would argue that we've seen him do it in the NFL.

It was probably coaching malpractice by Cliff Kingsbury that they weren't good. Yeah. Or maybe they would have been a two-win team without them. Like you don't know how much they were elevated. Yeah. Colt McCoy, Tyler Maddochievich, Marshaun Lynch, Ari. These names are Kellyn Moore. All time winning us quarterback in college football. Now currently the head coach of the Orleans Saints. Bruce Matthews.

Russell O'Koong, Patrick Peterson. Patrick Peterson was a dog at LSU. A dog. Oh, here's another just classic great college football player who did have a good time in the NFL. Antoine Randall L. Yeah. Indiana quarterback. But much better in college than the NFL, right?

Yeah. Well, here's one that we know better probably as an NFL person, D'Amico Ryans, who had a decent NFL career, but it is turning out to be a pretty good NFL head coach. D'emico Ryans was incredible as an Alabama lineback. Yeah. Incredible. Yeah. There are ones that, like, are on the list, though, that are just, like, automatic in, like Cam Newton. Like, he's just automatically in, right? Like, there's an...

I hope so. He better be. Manteo's on here. Terrell Suggs. Sammy Watkins, Jonathan Vilma. Like, I know this has like been a name to the guys segment, but I don't care. I'm fine with that. The fact that, and this tells you about the sport, and this also tells you again about how hard this decision will be for the people who have to make it,

that I just smile when I say Sammy Watkins. Yeah. Because I'm remembering Sammy Watkins at Clemson. When I say Jonathan Vilma, I'm remembering Jonathan Vilma at Miami. Like, the fact that, you. you say the name and it makes you smile, tells you how awesome all of this is. Like all of these guys were.

Yeah. I don't know. Maybe we could do a written story together or it's like, here would be R20. I don't know if you would even want to do that. Is that too insulting? Yeah. I think it's worth it.

I think it's worth it. And the coaches are interesting too because you got Ralph Rijian who won the ACC in Maryland. You've got Mike Leach. You got Dennis Franchione, who was in multiple places. You got Jackie Sherrill who won in multiple places. You've got Tommy Tuberville who, you know, it's him being a senator has overshadowed everything.

But this is also a man who beat Alabama five times in a row as Auburn's coach. Yeah. Like that happened. So it's crazy. It really is amazing the level of choices that have to be made. So yeah, maybe you and I do it. Maybe you and I become the Hall of Fame jury an attempt to. When do they announce?

who gets in? Like, is that, that's not for a while, right? It's going to be in a few months. They, they, you know, they name them, and then they will honor them in December in Las Vegas at the ceremony. Well, maybe we'll get together, grab a drink or something if we see each other this week and iron it out. Yeah, yeah. We might see each other. And it might have something to do with, uh, with this. A little bit of news that dropped. Now, Pete Nacos told you who was going to be on the cover on Monday, but on Tuesday, EA Sports unveiled the actual cover of the college football 27 video game.

So your cover athletes are Ole Miss running by Kiwan Lacey, Miami receiver, well, they'll line him out of the backfield sometimes too, Malachi Tony, and Oregon quarterback Dante Moore, which I like that trio. That's a pretty representative trio of dudes we are really excited to see in 2026. Yeah, I asked this on. So when I was on vacation last week, I was walking with a buddy in the morning to go get bagels with our wives. And we were, you know, two paces behind as they were gabbing about girl stuff. We were behind them.

And we were brainstorming who could be on the video game cover this year. Just because I think that even if you don't play the game, there is a source of pride in that. I think people get wound up about it. Are there any players that were not on the list that should have been on, or not on the cover that you think were, if you would have had to guess, would have been. on the cover or could have been on the cover. Jeremiah Smith was on it last year, so I don't think they would do it again. I'm a little surprised

they didn't go with another quarterback, either Julian Sane or C.J. Carr. Yeah, C.J. Carr could have been on there. Yeah, both those guys, really good quarterbacks, both those uniforms pop. You know, the Ohio State uniform or the Notre Dame uniform pops off the cover. So I do think either one of those would have been a logical and suitable

choice, but I don't have any arguments with who they picked. The one cool thing that I will always say about this game, and, you know, whether you play it or not, the one thing I will tell you about it is that it is made by college football fans who understand the game. And if you wanted to just go get the most famous people that might not have been these three. But what they do is they go get a representation of college football from multiple places. And if you look, it's, you know, you've got somebody in Florida. You've got South.

You've got West Coast. But like, Key One Lacey being on the cover might not have been a popular guess for most people. But I think that it is certainly appropriate and well representative of like the spirit of college football. And so I like what they do. And I like that they're, I don't know. Like, sometimes I feel like I want to have just one dude. Like it's an honor kind of like it is with Madden where just like one guy earned that. but I think that they did a pretty good job with these choices Andy

I would agree with that we got the deluxe cover too Kurt Signetti Love it On the center And like that's a layup right Yeah Oh he is he is

And of course he's making a Kurt Signetti face Oh yeah Well I think you have to right Yeah But you know I'm excited to play the game I'm excited to, you know, get a closer look at it. And it's going to be a, it's always a nice summer pastime. When the game releases, it makes you feel like college footballers around the corner.

And by the time it comes out in July or early August, depending on when it is, I don't know the top of my head. It just feels like you're a few weeks away and you are. Well, on that deluxe cover, you've got Malachi, Tony, and Dante Moore and Keywon Lacey, but you've also got Jaden Maiava from USC. You've got Linder Moore from Notre Dame. I'd say that, Notre Dame uniform pops. And Leonard Moore, you know, we've got.

We said C.J. Carr, but Leonard Moore is probably, you know, Notre Dame's best overall player. And certainly their highest draft stock type player right now. Yeah, without question. Got a few mascots back there, too. You can't leave that. Yeah, Mike the Tiger and Big Red. Yeah. Big Red from Western Kentucky.

College football guys, I told you. Like, that's who makes this. Exactly. Exactly. They, if you know, you know. Yeah. But Malachi, Tony, being front and center on the regular cover. I love that because I think he was the breakout star of last year,

someone who no one knew outside of South Florida and recruit Nix until he broke on the scene for Miami. Now everybody knows who he is and everybody can't wait to see what he does next. Like that, that's the ideal person. The coolest thing about it, Andy, was that he broke out in week one against Notre Dame and we were watching it together and we're like, holy crap, this kid's amazing. And then, like, as the weeks went on, like, the entire country caught up and it got to a point where he was making those plays on the largest stages.

Like, I thought it was a really cool ascension into stardom. And honestly speaking, in terms of people who have made electric plays in the highest of high leverage moments and the biggest of big moments, like who is more deserving than Malikai Tony to be front center like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now, there's not really been a curse with college football. And part of it is because when the game existed before, you couldn't be on the cover until after you were done playing college football. Right. But I think a madden curse has kind of been broken, too, because the Hart was won a Super Bowl the year he was on the cover.

Yeah, people were trying to say that Ryan Williams had a rough year after last year. But Jeremiah Smith didn't. Yeah. No curse. Yeah. Just pure honor, Andy. That's right. That's right.

So who knows? Maybe we'll have a little more on the game as the week goes. on tomorrow. Ari and I are each going to pick five transfers that we can't wait to see. These are not necessarily the biggest name transfers, but the ones we think could shake up college football this year. We'll talk to you tomorrow.