Andy & Ari On3 - Is the future NOW for QB Bryce Underwood at Michigan

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

We’re excited to announce we’ll be hosting Andy & Ari On3 LIVE from the Draft in Green Bay on Thursday, April 24 and Friday, April 25! We’ll be set up right outside the famous Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field at the Culver’s Great Wisconsin Tailgate. Born in Wisconsin, Culver’s is the home of the legendary ButterBurger, Fresh Frozen Custard and Wisconsin Cheese Curds—there’s no better representation of America’s Dairyland than that. We’ll have some very special guests throughout the Draft that you won’t want to miss, so stay tuned for more details and get ready for a weekend of fun, made fresh with our friends at Culver’s: https://go.culvers.com/culvers/sAkHC Thank you to Gametime for sponsoring today's episode! Planning your college football travel for this season? Want to go to a concert tonight? Gametime has tickets to every game. (And every concert and comedy show.) Download the Gametime App and enter code: STAPLES for $20 off your first purchase, terms apply. Last Minute Tickets, Lowest Prices, Guaranteed.(0:00-2:48) Intro: Culver's show from Green Bay Thursday & Friday(2:49-12:13) Recapping Michigan's Spring Game(12:14-28:29) How good will Bryce Underwood, Michigan be?(28:30-29:23) Culver's(29:24-31:00) Wrapping up Michigan Discussion(31:01-33:19) Gametime(33:20-35:02) IATA(35:03-44:28) Colorado's Brotherhood(44:29-52:42) Deion Sanders Discussion, How our show is laid out(52:43-57:45) Wrapping up Nico to UCLA talk(57:46-1:00:24) Steve Angeli visiting Syracuse(1:00:25-1:05:46) Oklahoma's Stock Rising?(1:05:47-1:06:10) Conclusion The most sought-after recruit in the class of 2025 made his longest public appearance so far, and it appears Bryce Underwood is probably going to start at Michigan as a freshman. Is he ready? Do we know anything based on what we’ve seen? Colorado offensive tackle Jordan Seaton voiced his frustration last week with the transfer portal after the Buffaloes lost their starting center. Ari thinks someone playing for Colorado doesn’t need to complain about the portal. Andy thinks Seaton has every right. Plus, Nico Iamaleava officially transfers to UCLA. Watch our show on YouTube LIVE, M-F at 9:30 am et! https://youtube.com/live/PH8mI9xMdLs Want to partner with the show? E-mail [e-mail]

Welcome to Andy and Ari on three presented by Culver's. It is draft week. We are headed to Green Bay courtesy of Culver's. We'll be at the great Wisconsin tailgate Thursday and Friday. We'll have shows from just outside the frozen Tundra Blambo field. And it's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing.

We'll talk some draft this week because quarterbacks seem to be moving around the board, although that is sort of the thing that people do already before the draft. The draft is the one situation where nobody has to tell the truth, so you never know who's lying. Yeah, and also too, like, and I think I saw somebody make this point somewhere. I don't know who it was, so sorry for my giving the credit, but like, why is it draft? Not just in March. Like I feel like where,

because the NFL is smarter about how it spaces things out than college football is. Yeah. But college football is like, let's have our playoff and our free agency all at the same time. No, I feel like we, the, the draft process is three weeks too long though. Like we, we, we know who's good. We know who's not good. Like three weeks too long though. Like we know who's good, we know who's not good, like three weeks ago. You could have- They're not gonna stick it in the middle of March madness.

So they're not doing that. That's true. Now, if you could, if you, I think there's a needle to thread. If you could get the NBA and the NHL to move the start of their playoffs back a week. So you could go between the Masters and the beginning of the NBA and

NHL playoffs would be perfect. It'd be perfect. Yeah, because it's just like we get to a point and listen, it's fine where it is. Who cares? It's not a hot button issue, but like the the thing that happens in pre-draft uh analysis is is that you get to the end of the road uh and then there's still a month to go before the event actually happens. So people start you know overthinking, you know, trying to get creative, trying to, you know, be interesting.

And, you know, I think that this is a very typical thing, but like, what is the biggest domino that you've seen change in the draft order? It's, it's, it's Shadour Sanders allegedly sliding, but it's one of those things like he may not actually be sliding. He still may be the second quarterback off the board. He still may be a top 10 pick like it. There are reasons if you if you were a team that wanted to draft Shader Sanders, you would spread nasty things about him because you want him

to be there when you pick. Him not going to the draft might not mean anything. I think people are reading way much way too much into that. Like he might be I don't know that I might want to have the might not mean anything. I think people are reading way too much into that. Like he might be- I don't know that. I might want to have the party at my house. I kind of like that idea. Oh, yeah. If you look at the sweet house, I'm sure Shador has a sweet house.

Grab at Central would be like, what would your perfect draft party be? Okay, I tell you what, we're gonna talk about that on Wednesday show. That is a topic for Wednesday show. We have to talk about college football right now, though. We I was the Dave Chappelle character on Saturday with the like every time a clip of Bryce Underwood got posted during the Michigan Spring.

Yeah, listen, enough of this crap with the not broadcasting the spring games. Stop it. Nobody's going to steal your players because they saw the not broadcasting the spring games. Stop it. Nobody's gonna steal your players because they saw two reps in a spring game. They already know which players of yours they wanna steal. So put them on fricking TV. Like I felt like an addict just scrolling Twitter like Bryce Underwood video search.

Like, oh, incompletion. Oh, through an interception. Oh, like put it on TV. Come on. Was the attendance higher? I mean, I know Michigan always has a great attendance, but like were attendance is across the board higher for spring games this year now that you couldn't watch

a lot of them. No, they were lower. They were? Yeah, that has been hilariously debunked. That's why they didn't use to put games on TV because they're like, it'll kill attendance. No, it actually turns out to be a great advertisement for what you're trying to do. Yeah, I just didn't know because like you're going to write

a list or talk about a list of quarterbacks that you haven't really seen much of who I can't see more of. Yes, catching your neck to see more of and like you used to be able to watch him play on TV. Now that you can't like if you're in the area, if you're within a three hour radius of Ann Arbor and you're a Michigan fan, uh, you might go to the game if you don't like going to games even just to see this kid. Well, so even if the game had been on TV, I still wouldn't have much sample size of Bryce Underwood because it's not like their pub, their practices are public. You haven't seen other than a couple of videos

that they've sent out from spring practice. But we saw this and look, I don't think this was the plan. Here's the trick play at the end of the spring game. This is the 88 yard touchdown. Beautiful little razzmatazz, tight end wheel, kind of left it short, but he caught it and outran the defense touchdown Michigan. He was under 100 yards passing before that.

Yeah, and like the thing too is just like. We talked about this, but like how much do you actually take from sloppy spring games anyway? Like he's not supposed to look like John Elway out there. And also coaches can show you whatever they want to show you in a spring game by deciding what they will and won't let the

defense do. But did you see all the people that were breaking down whether that was a good throw? Yes, right. Like, like, it's like, I don't know, was it the perfect throw? But it's all we got, Ari. It wasn't the perfect throw. but I think that when you go back and I think the stat is true that their longest pass play of the entire season last year was 36 yards, I think, or 37 yards. It was brutal. Yes.

The fourth pass was the fourth concept to the Michigan Wolverines last year. If you're a Michigan fan, this is a celebratory day. You have your guy. And it might not mean that you're going to the playoff this year, but it's year one. And save for any weird NIL negotiation tactics at the end. And I don't know if this is gonna sound mean, but I feel like Michigan's probably gonna have it more buttoned up behind the scenes than Tennessee does

in terms of how they're gonna deal with this. I think they'll be in a pretty good spot. So like, I don't know, Tennessee were pros at this too. It was more- I feel like you're trying to make one of those the Michigan man would never jokes. And look, the kids just signed- No, I wasn't making a joke.

I was just, I feel like Michigan's not as out there. Like, let me ask you this. And I don't want to hijack this topic. It's an important topic, but do you think that Tennessee was at all reckless at the beginning? Or do you think they were the smartest and best? Oh, they were, they were on the bleeding edge. Like Michigan was waiting to see what everybody else did

and then jumped in. Michigan is the beta model. Michigan with Underwood did the kind of 3.0 version of what Tennessee did with Nico when they signed him out of high school. Is this a good way to put it? Tennessee was the beta model for NIL and had bugs and quirks and now that it's gone through it, having been the most aggressive one, they'll probably be more apt to deal with these situations

moving forward with what they've learned. Michigan was slower, they developed their software a little bit longer. They didn't come out into the public with it. And now they're probably more efficient. I love that you're saying it this way, you're using this analogy when it is literally a software developer

who underrope by such a wood. But also too at the same time, that doesn't mean that Tennessee software isn't completely great and up to speed now too, but like the peril that they faced with with Nico was probably a result of a bug. Right. And there's probably some stuff in the Bryce Underwood deal that was done last winter that is that was not in the Nico deal that he was operating under at Tennessee that was done in December of 2022. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

That makes absolute perfect sense. And I was thinking about this too, because I was gonna call him the $10 million man, Bryce Underwood, we probably shouldn't do that because people get confused when you do that. They think that means that's what he's getting paid per year. It's not, that's the total deal over the length of the deal. Yeah, and people got confused with that with Nico too,

but let's back to Bryce Underwood though. He's gonna start this year, right? Well, I think the original plan was to bring in Mikey Keene who'd played in that offense before, who'd played a ton of snaps and that he would start. And if Bryce Underwood was ready, then he would kind of, actually, I bet the plan was kind of similar to what Florida did with Graham Mertz and DJ Lagway last year that had no choice but to go to Lagway when Mertz tours ACL. But Mikey Keene got hurt before spring practice. We're not entirely sure when he's going to be back. The thought is he'll be back at some point during the season, but.

It sure seems now like Bryce Underwood's got to be the guy day one. Yeah. Here's the thing. And I don't know how extensive, uh, Mikey Keene's injury is, but once Bryce starts, it doesn't matter what the circumstance of that start is. Once he starts, unless it's an absolute abject failure, which I doubt it will be because he's an extremely talented and gifted player. There's no ripping. There's no

like putting the what is it putting the toothpaste back in the tube. I think that like once the toothpaste is out of the tube, you know, and also to I don't think Michigan would want that. I think Michigan fans are amped up and excited and rightfully so. This is the biggest recruiting win that they've probably had as a program since JJ McCarthy and you saw how that turned out.

So, and I'm all for it too. Like the thing with Michigan is like, what are they supposed to be this year and what are expectations? I think it's a very interesting discussion and we've talked about it a little bit, but not all the way. But even if it's a team that's supposed to go out and win eight or nine games this year, which I think is a reasonable expectation, against that schedule they could win more. But if they win nine or ten games this year, maybe flirt with the playoff in November,

that's a successful season in year one of the Underwood experience, in my opinion. So let him go out there, let him get his experience, let the world see him, use him as a recruiting tool and then come back in 2026 feeling like you could go win the whole damn thing. I mean to me that's the way to go. So, okay, I've seen enough with my, with my, you know, addict, looking at every, every little snippet of video that I could find. I've already seen enough to know that he has a better arm than every single person that threw a pass for Michigan last year. So it can't get worse than it was last year in terms of the passing game. It will only get better. Arm than those guys. No, but and neither do I. We're not going to do that.

We're not playing that game, but he does. He absolutely does. Dude, that that ball was just a duck though. That that trick. I'm kidding. Yes it was fine and that's that's what's interesting. There's a couple other throws like there's some some pretty basic slants

where he's just firing them in there that nobody could have done at Michigan. Last year, yeah, that you're you a couple other throws like there's some some pretty basic slants where he's just firing them in there that nobody could have done at Michigan last year. Yeah. Like that you're you add that into the offense and suddenly it's a very different offense. Yeah and like here's the thing like if Michigan there is a world out there where Michigan doesn't come close to winning 10 games too right. Like the thing that I am that that I struggle with with Michigan, and I want you to help walk me through this, but Michigan won a national championship two years ago when I thought it was impossible for a team that was built that way to actually go all the way and win it, right?

Michigan captured what I thought was lightning in the bottle in terms of not recruiting top 10 classes on an annual basis, but evaluating and portaling its way to having 20 draftable players on their team. If you look at their current team right now, I don't think that they have got 20 draftable players on they have probably. As many future NFL players as most of the other. Contenders were talking about just spread out over over the whole roster, so if they are, if you if you believe that that's who they are, then 10 games I think is a rational expectation. The question that I have and will continue to have with

Michigan until they're good again, which maybe this year is whether or not two years ago was all the stars aligning perfectly for a magical run, and if they're gonna like dip back to being more what they were for the majority of the Jim Harbaugh era, which is a tough team, a nine-win team, that's really good, but not great or good enough to beat the elite of the elite,

or if they're gonna get back to contending for a national championship Again, like what is your take on that? I don't think Sharon Moore is gonna recruit like Jim Harbaugh did entirely I think there will be some DNA there But I do think that Sharon Moore is going to go after more of the top-end Telling look Jim Harbaugh got some top-end talent JJ McCarthy, Will Johnson Donovan Edwards, those are five-star guys. So I think you're gonna see about got some top end talent, JJ McCarthy, Will Johnson, Donovan Edwards, those are five star guys. So I think you're going to see Sharon Moore go after more of those guys. And if he's getting

them, and look, we saw with Bryce Underwood that they are willing to pay when they need to pay, then they should be in line with all of the other national title contender type programs that we always talk about. Then here's the question because this we know what that reminds me of and I know it's completely different time period and like here's the thing. I don't even know if like going back in time and using things

that happened in 2015 1617. We can learn much from them now because the sport is so different. But remember when Michigan State kind of did. I knew you're gonna bring this up. I'm serious. You know, it's not the same thing though. And I'll tell you why. Because what you were talking about, you're talking about when when Dantonio when they had the they had decided I'm going to go chase stars. I don't think one, I think everybody at Michigan, cause like Sharon wasn't at Michigan yet, but he was in the state.

Like everybody saw that happen and understands you can't completely get away from what you do. And that's what that Michigan state was completely abandoning its previous philosophy. I don't think Sharon Moore has to completely abandon this philosophy to get some five stars. Remember, she was already getting some five stars. So you can keep recruiting the way you were recruiting, keep evaluating the way you were evaluating, just chase a few more that you might not

have been able to get before. Come with me now. Come with me on this. Is Bryce Underwood a departure from how Michigan gets its Michigan men? Yes. So how many don't do it typically do last minute flips like JJ McCarthy wasn't a last minute flip. We've always you wrote a bunch of stories about the kid like he would have gone to Ohio State. They wanted common court. So now how many departures can Michigan take in on an annual basis from the Michigan man pursuit and maintain who it was two years ago? Two, three. And guess what? If it's two or three five stars a year, that's all you really need. And if it's at the most important position then you're good with that.

Yeah I'm absolutely good that because because I still want them developing and recruiting offensive linemen the same way they always did but every once in a while let's let's throw someone who's an absolute super freak of nature in there too. By the way if you're watching on Twitter right now come join us on YouTube you watch the whole rest of the show on YouTube I promise it'll be more fun because you can jump in the chat and yell at us in the chat, which that's usually the most fun part of things.

Ari, Bryce Underwood, you mentioned the departure, but where is he, what is he, how different is he? And I think Michael asked an interesting question. This is a good one. Where does Bryce Underwood compare to DJ Lagway coming out of high school? In terms of skillset, in terms of readiness. I think it's interesting because DJ Lagway's

high school career was more of a slow burn than Bryce Underwood's. DJ Lagway started getting a lot of buzz at the end of his junior year and actually continued into his senior year and he got better during his senior year, but he was already committed to Florida at that point. Bryce Underwood was well known as the top QB in this class. I guess a sophomore in high school.

Yeah, the thing that I I'm not sure, and like I sat with DJ Lagway when DJ was in high school. And when you were in the same room as this kid, you could tell that he was a freak of nature. I've never been in the same room as Bryce and I know that Bryce is actually younger by comparison entering Michigan then than DJ was when he got there too right like I think Bryce is seven he's still 17 yeah so if he's still 17 like from a physical standpoint like I think that the comparison might be a little bit different

because I think DJ was further along physically um I think Bryce is no slouch this game we actually I'm glad you brought that up because we have to talk about that. We have to talk about Bryce Underwood, the specimen, because this picture was floating around the internet last week and not that picture, Producer River, that picture, yes. And boy, that launched a lot of takes. You know what that looks like to me? As somebody who's had, you know, to consider what my belly looks like in every single article of clothing I've worn for the last decade.

It looks like he's just wearing shorts and underwear that's too small. Well, that as someone who has had Dunlop disease most of my life, I think you're correct there. Also this photo is, it's a still shot from a video. For those listening to podcast form, it's a picture of Bryce Underwood that circulated on the internet last week. You probably saw it. He's got his practice jersey pulled up Zeke Elliott style, but he's not showing a Zeke Elliott type six pack, but it also could be he's in the

middle of exhaling and, but man, did this thing take off and every, cause I mentioned Bryce Underwood last week when, when Sharon Moore went on JD Bichel show and I retweeted a clip and said something about Underwood and everything I got was was about this. We're not going to belly shame on this show. God forbid us belly. We have no right to belly shame any human being alive. Glass out. Well, not you anymore. You're like, aren't you working on a six pack over there?

Is not like, oh, OK, I have loose skin. I I earned the loose skin. It's my fault. It's my reminder that I could have done this earlier in life and didn't and chose not to. You're for a while there. You're like, my goal is to have a six pack. Like that one. Yeah, it's not gonna happen. Like that will never occur to me.

Like I just want to wear a large shirt comfortably. But like, this is like to me a bad frame. and I think that people love to run away with stuff but like didn't he? Let's show the one Bryce posted on his Instagram story. He has a six pack. I'm not concerned. Also I have not stopped with the defamation. I'm glad that he had fun with it.

Look if I had a six pack, I could have fun with that too because I just be posting six pack pictures all the time. Also too, Andy, one time my wife and I were in Malibu and on vacation and I ate lobster quesadillas because that sounds incredible, doesn't it? Like who wouldn't want lobster stuffed quesadillas? And I walked in there Like who would of course, or stuffed quesadillas. And I walked in there, one size, and I don't know if there was an ingredient or something in these quesadillas that my body did not agree with.

But I had a level of bloat when I walked out of that restaurant that like my shirt was too tight now. Like I felt, and I didn't eat that much. Like I just, it hit me the wrong way for some reason and I'll never Forget it and my wife's secret ingredient was butter Ari Yeah, but like I got my but I don't like bloat like that I'm just like I don't my body does sure producer river show show the six-pack underwood picture again

Look at that. Yeah Yeah, okay. I you know people on the internet, you know, my favorite thing too is, is just like, 90% of the people probably who are calling them fat were like just like, no, they're disgusting. Absolute pigs. I guarantee it. Yeah, all other people's wives ugly, I'm sure are like, you know, married to absolute dimes behind the scenes. But like, I don't think that the man's got an overweight problem. So, you know, no, no. And Brian in the chat points out Bryce took off on a scramble spring game. The belly is not a problem. No, it is not.

He can move. Now look, I know quarterbacks aren't live. He's fast. You could tell it was a bad picture or he had some bad lobster quesadillas. That's true. All right, put the picture away, River. We don't need that picture. There you go.

But like, here's the thing, too. And somebody in the chat said this, like, Julian Sain looks like a middle schooler. Like, it doesn't mean anything. Let's play this game, because you and I are fortunate enough to be in the same room as a lot of like really good players like every weekend during the season. Like what is the best player that you've seen in person that looks like they are just a normal. Jared Lorenzen. May he rest in peace.

He was he was over. Lorenzen was amazing. Amazing. And he weighed 300 pounds. You know which one comes to mind? If you would be at the mall and knew nothing about college football and you just saw Quinn Ubers at PacSun, would you think he was like a potential Heisman candidate? Like he's- Colt McCoy.

Colt McCoy. Like it doesn't matter- Colt McCoy plays in NFL games. You never know. And like I just think that people appreciate a lot of times what people actually look like but you want to know who the actual opposite of that was was like just a regular looking dude on TV and you've been around him I think quite a bit is Alex Smith and then you see Alex Smith in person. Alex Smith looks like a Greek god in person like it doesn't always uh it doesn't always jive back and forth, but like I think that from the picture that Bryce posted, I'm very comfortably, you could question

a lot of things about him. I don't think his physical makeup is on that list. Not worried about it. Not worried about it. I am excited to see him play. I'm excited to see Michigan's offense because I'm not worried about Michigan's defense. We actually got that good chance to see what this year's version of the Michigan defense would look like in the bowl game last year because they had a lot of opt-outs. Alabama had a lot of guys healthy and playing, and you got to see the guys who were probably going to start for Michigan this year against some pretty good players for Alabama, and they looked great. Those Michigan players look like they belong. And so not worried about the defense. The offense adds just the same speaking of Alabama

players but who also is really, really good in the video game, by the way, people who run Alabama online just like smoke you with same. So if the passing game get how much better does the passing game have to get for Michigan to be a nine ten win tight team does it have to get 50% better because I think there's a possibility that can get like 200% better because it was freaking terrible last year. Andy it was about as bad as a passing game could be in college football let's just call it what it is. And then here's the thing though, like the more I think about this and we are in what's

it April 21st right now, we're in thinking season in the more time that goes back by from last year. And now that we're not in the midst of it anymore, the more impressed I am with Sharon Moore's ability to navigate that team with such a deficiency, Like they were handicapped. They were kneecapped. Yes. And that's what I was saying at the end of the year, like the what they ended up doing from a season standpoint with that ailment is remarkable. It's I mean, the fact that they were like, I know Alabama was what it was. And I don't know exactly what Alabama's effort level was in the bowl game. I don't know if they're alive, but like the fact that Michigan,

like beat USC beat Ohio State beat Alabama. Like how did they beat Ohio State? Like they did. And like that was a terrible, terrible offense. Now I know that Mason Graham's not walking through that door again, right? Like I know there's some, some, but they still have very good play. Like they have NFL bound players on their defense. This is a long way of answering your question of like if it's like 70% better, which I think

is probably a bona fide like certainty, right? Like there's no way it can't be at least 70% better. They're going to be a really good team and they're over. They're over under win total this year's eight and a half as River and let me point out. This is not us saying that we think Bryce Underwood is going to win the Heisman and average 350 passing yards a game. This is us insulting last year's Michigan passing game like

70% better is probably average compared to most offenses. So if you can get slightly above average, you're talking about a potential playoff team. Like if their longest passing play was 36 yards, like we're not, you don't have to put, you know, Joe Montana and his prime out there. 70% improvement is guaranteed. And I think it's possible that it's 200% improvement

and that they're a 10 win team, especially against their schedule. Like I think you could, but like at the same time too, 10 and two or nine and three against that schedule doesn't mean that they're gonna go out and beat Georgia. Right? But like the Michigan teams that Jim Harbaugh was being criticized for

before they won the national championship, I think should be the goal this year. A 10 and two team. Also the Michigan teams under Jim Harbaugh, they got criticized, are probably capable of competing with the national title contenders of now because it's going to be really hard. We talked about this to have another 2021 Georgia, 2022 Georgia. And you don't look at that schedule and say there's a game on it that they cannot win.

Agreed agreed because they beat Ohio State with the passing game they had last year. Right, so if they can beat them with that passing game, they got a shot with what they're going to have this year. So I'm excited to see it. If there was an unsolved mysteries now, which by the way, that show used to bang. I don't know.

You know, like you watched that. Robert Stack, baby. It was scary. It used to scare me when I was a kid, but I was really into it. They should bring that back. Then they try to bring it back and it didn't hit right. Like unexplainable things that happen

are so fascinating to me. Like unexplainable things that happen are so fascinating to me. Like that one, uh, like field out in Asia somewhere where like their suicide rate is like 9000% higher than it is everywhere else in the world. Like, I don't know why that happens, but I need to know why. Um, the thing with Michigan is they are a eight and 14 with the worst schedule or nine and three, whatever they went last year with the worst offense I've ever seen. Um, they beat Ohio state. If there was an unsolved mysteries, they should put that on the show. And if the answer to the mystery was they had Mason Graham, uh, and

Kenneth back there, then like those guys should be first round picks. And I think they will be so like that as a, like Mason Graham is maybe the most underappreciated player in totality from the last three years. Because JJ McCarthy gets a lot of shine from that run. And so does Donovan Edwards and some of the guys that helped them win. But Mason Graham was the engine that made them run.

And I'm sure he is in Michigan lore and Michigan history, like the commensurate Michigan man. And he's about to get handsomely rewarded because he's going to be drafted very high. I think personally when we go to the Culver's Great Wisconsin tailgate and broadcast from there on Thursday, I think Thursday night we will see Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant come off the board. I think both of those Michigan defensive tackles will be first round picks. And whoever doesn't take whoever passes like like Kenneth Grant falls the second round. May God have mercy on your souls. Like I hope whoever gets him wins eight Super Bowls. I love Kenneth Grant.

Do you imagine if Zane's team who gets Mason Graham got Kenneth Grant too? That would be unfair. That's the type of situation that a really well-run NFL organization would figure out a way to do and then for the next seven years we'll be talking about how did they let this happen? Well, the Rams did it. They got Jared Virst and Braden Fisk from Florida State. They're like, oh, look at that. They played really well together.

How about that? Yeah. But yeah, Michigan, I think is a very interesting team. And the last thing I'm gonna say about them before we move on is since they went to the Jordan brand, Michigan is in the top three without question in uniforms, right? Like they are so, so clean. They already were. And no, no, the Jordan brand changed much

in the same uniforms helmets were always great Everybody loves the helmets. There's no question about that But when they were those Adidas jerseys, they were awful like Adidas like ruined them And then they're just like now they're just classic and clean and beautiful and like I love their uniforms well How will they look with Bryce Underwood throwing at 19 The number 19 on a quarterback. What do you think? I'm okay with it. It's different, isn't it? It's not the Doug Flutie 22. Yeah, you're usually like because you saw

it now Peyton Manning had 18 in the pros and usually you don't go much higher than 18 but there's only other one quarterback that I can remember being 19. Is that Bernie Kozar? He wore 19, right? Yeah. Pretty good quarterback. So yeah. And very comparable talent wise to Bryce Underwood in terms of where he could move. So Bernie, like Bernie won a national championship at Miami and then I know, but wasn't Bernie was a good quarterback. Like helplessly immobile. No, Bernie Kozark could move a little bit, but I thought in the pros Bernie Kozark's

biggest problem was they kept running into John Elway in the playoffs. And that he played for the Cleveland Browns that that too that too, which also talk about our friends at Game Time Ari Game Time is the best place to get last minute tickets. I am very mad because we have already scheduled a trip

out of town this weekend. I just found out I can get Parker McCollum tickets in Gainesville at the O'Connell Center for $30. Parker McCollum, one of the best country artists going right now, 30 bucks. On Saturday, I'm mad, but also found out bare naked ladies coming to St. Augustine next month. I have seen them in concert. They are awesome. You can get in there. I believe 58 bucks is the get in price on

game time. Ari, if you wanted to go get some last minute tickets on game time, Kendrick Lamar and SZA at Jerry World on Saturday. You know you want to see Kendrick. You don't want to hear him say a minor in person. My wife bought tickets on game time to the Post Malone concert like a month ago. Nice. Post Malone concert on May 9th and we didn't know it was my dad's birthday.

Happy birthday dad, love you. But then we found out that our daughter's dance recital is the same day and like her show starts at 6.30 PM and she's the 10th act, which by the way. And those dance recitals, they go fast. So you'll get to post. I hope, I hope post is doing the country album. And also I hope your wife used the code staples when she bought those tickets

because your first purchase on the game time app is the code staples $20 off terms apply, of course. So download the app use code staples $20 off. Hopefully Ari will make it to the Post Malone show hopefully he will play Guy for that hopefully he will play uh Devil I've Been great song off that country album and I'm sure he'll play Candy Paint and some of the other there's uh White Iverson the classics on on the Post Malone country album called yours and Oh, thanks. My wife I every time and like I like rock my daughter to sleep to that song. And it's like really emotional but the

In the latest edition of a MIA Please take the advertisers logo off the screen at that point when Ari asks if Ari is the a-hole. What are we doing with dance recitals for three-year-olds starting at 6.30 p.m. on a Friday? Like, I mean, like, what are we doing? Because she's the best ass. As someone who's very experienced with this from age three to now, as she's about to turn 14.

Yeah, help me out with this. It's when they can get the theater. That's pretty much it. Just get the theater on Saturday during the day. They're three, they go to bed at eight o'clock. Well see, like my daughter's old studio, they had the theater Friday night, and then they had two shows Saturday,

or maybe even three shows on Saturday. So that's what it is, is you may not have gotten that show. Like her class is going at that time. There may be another show that has some of the other classes on Saturday. And all of her too. And I'm sure you're exposed to this as well, but dance shoes?

No idea how expensive these things were for a three-year-old. Ari, you have no clue. Because your daughter's three. My daughter's on point. Yeah, that's what I'm'm saying aren't those like point shoes last like three weeks and they cost like 100 bucks. So actually, yeah, that's it's it's if you if you see me selling fruit on the side of the road, while also doing this job, it's

because I'm trying to pay for point you. How are her toes holding up? She good? Oh, she she is proud of all of the uh various deformities that that it creates. So, she's like she her brother comes in with his football bruises and she's like, oh yeah, look at this and pulls out her foot and it's like, okay, you win. So, that's terrifying. There you go. Alright, we gotta talk about Colorado. We do. Very interesting. I don't, we're we're done with the the retired jerse right. We got to talk about Colorado.

We do. Very interesting. I don't, we're done with the retired jerseys. We talked about the retired jerseys last week. Dion said we wouldn't even be talking about should we get his jersey retired if his name last name wasn't Sanders and Dion was right, but not in the way he thought because yeah, Travis Hunter's Jersey gets retired. No problem.

Should or his Jersey? I don't know, but that's not what retired. No problem. Chudor's Jersey, I don't know. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about what Jordan Seton, the offensive tackle from Colorado said last week when Colorado's starting center went into the transfer portal, Jordan Seton tweeted, can't even build a true brotherhood anymore. Too much I and me. Ari sent this to me immediately. You have takes.

I do. But I didn't think they were that hot and then people were freaked out. Well, and I have, I wanted to argue with you too. So I'm going to let you go and then I'm going to, I'm going to counterpunch. Yeah. So here's the thing before I tell you what my take is on this. Jordan Seton is a five-star player who came to Colorado out of high school and is going to be a multi-year starter. So this may not even apply to him specifically because he is a person that kind of did it the old-fashioned way. Now I don't know if he would have ended up at Colorado, you know, in any other regime, obviously, because Deion Sanders is the draw there. But how can you be worried about brotherhood and creating something that lasts in relationships when you also opted to play for a program that's maybe amongst the most transient in college football.

Like it's like and I'm not even saying that he doesn't have a right to crave that or want that. But at the same time, you have your, you know, YouTube channel. You have, you know, your social media handles on the back of your jerseys for practice. Their number one selling point as a program is to come build your personal brand. They act, you know, 80% of their roster when he got there and have been very, you know, and I think the churn is slowing down as the build is getting more advanced, but they do turn their roster quite a bit. And you have players coming to Colorado

for specific reasons that aren't go play with your brothers on Saturday. Now that might be less true everywhere because I do think that NIL and branding and all those things are important to everybody as we just got done talking about Michigan, which was supposedly the poster child for brotherhood, having a $10 million quarterback over the contract.

But like at the same time, it just like every single Colorado graphic, every single visit graphic has prime time written all over it. Like their coach is the most Joey and most me person there is. So it just, I thought it was kind of a bizarre thing to hear from somebody at Colorado because you picked Colorado for your own personal interest, maybe more than any other program in college football. And I didn't think that that was crazy.

Am I nuts? I'm gonna push back on you because Jordan Seton didn't. Yeah. Jordan Seton is like the one person who can make this stay. Like he's the one person there who can make this statement because he did sign out of high school. But Jordan Seton making this statement is me buying a minivan and saying, God damn it. Why doesn't the convertible top come down?

You know, I mean, like, I'm not saying he can't say it, but like you're saying that Colorado didn't go crazy, that Colorado went Colorado. But I'm saying if that's something that you're concerned with, then that's something that you should have considered when you were making your decision. You can't make a decision based on brotherhood

and teammates and building a bond while also opting for the place that less accentuates that. Well, here's the thing. He's actually playing for a fairly normal team. On that front in terms of movement now. Yeah, definitely not normal. The previous two years. What do you think?

Yeah, I went and looked up the numbers because I was I was like, OK, are they still doing the kind of churn they were doing? Because if they are, then he really shouldn't say anything. There's no way that they could continue the pace that they were in year one. No, but they are, but they have gone back to the pack much quicker than I thought they would.

So transfers in this off season 21, transfers out 27. That's not that different from most programs in the power conferences. There's a few, I always say Clemson's gonna be different, but that's not that different than most programs. But it, to understand how different it is for Colorado, they had, hold on, it's coming up, it's a big number. They had 43 in and 45 out last year.

And then the year before Deon's first year, they had 50 in and 55 out. So they have actually moved back to the pack a lot faster than I thought they would. They are trying. Is that the 2020 thing? Is that where most teams are? It's where most Power Conference teams are. Okay, because 20 seemed like a lot still.

Nope, it's not. Yeah. So yeah, it is fairly normal. It's maybe kind of high side and normal, but it's not that different. I'll give you an example. Texas Tech, who we have as the number one transfer portal class, they have 18 in and 25 out. But if I was 20 and 27, if Texas Tech had a player a year from now who came in as part

of this transfer class now that the oil money's in, but he didn't let Jordan Seton to come as a transfer. OK. But Jordan Seton came in when the program was if a freshman who signed with Texas Tech this year out of high school complained about transient nature of the sport when he chose a program that operated that way. I like this. I'm sorry. I like this. I think Jordan Seton is the one person who's qualified to say this at Colorado Then why isn't he at Clemson right now? He was a five. So I like that This matters to him at Colorado because how does Colorado become what you keep saying it can become is

You have people like this who establish something there That's how that's how it becomes what you keep saying. Well, Dion does this and Dion recruits this way. If Dion, okay. Well, guess what? That's what they're doing. Don't drag me into the pits of hell because I can't go on that rant again.

You're more concerned with this comment being the thing that brings you to the brotherhood part than the thing that they should be doing, which is getting a bunch of Jordan Seidens, don't make me do this again, please. I love when you do it though. I know it drives you crazy, I just like pushing the Ari,

yells about Dion not going on high school visits button. But you don't say two weeks ago when I'm screaming about recruiting high school that they don't have to do it that way anymore, and then take the side of brotherhood is awesome at Colorado because that's exactly what I've been saying. Yeah, you're right. If this statement means that they're going to go try to get seven Jordan Seaton's a year, then I'm all for it. But like if you're Jordan

Seaton and you epitomize what building out a high school represents, then don't be upset when your teammates that came to Colorado for very different reasons aren't aren't seeing eye to eye with that. And also to like say what you want about like Deon Sanders, the guy's a genius. He's a very showy flashy me individual, is he not? That's how Colorado is in the position that it is to begin with. Well, as producer River pointed out, Jordan Seaton committed on undisputed. So not your typical.

But again, I don't care. He signed out of high school. He wants to build something there like Jordan Seaton, I'm sure, has had opportunities to go elsewhere. He's really good. Jordan Seaton went to Hawaii on vacation and complained about how you can't ski. No. Listen, he's a 20 year old. Okay. And I don't mind this. Like you think it's dumb that he's saying it. I don't mind this. I think he's a very good. It only helps Colorado to have

someone who's really good, who came out of high school, who believes this way. You kind of need those people if you ever want to build anything. That's how you build something is you get people like that who believe in what you're doing, who love it, who don't understand why everybody else doesn't want to be there. And then if Jordan Seaton's ideologies of life are contagious, and it has a lasting impact on Colorado, what's step two of that build? Keep building. How? You get more of those guys. Oh, I know. Okay.

How? You get more of those guys. Oh, yeah. OK, how? Offer them out of high school. You don't have to go to their high school. I agree with you that, yes, he would recruit better if he did the home visits. He's not going to do it no matter how many times you

yelled at him about it. Get over it. Or Jim Carrey is just like going. He's not going to about it. Get over it. Or Jim Carrey is like just like going. He's not going to do it now. You know what else you know what else he has not going to do? He was on the We Got Time podcast. Yeah, he got asked about something else.

Hold on. It's coming or not. Producer River has that clip. Maybe. Let me. I don't know if we have the clip. Do we have the clip or not? I think what Producer River is trying to do is trying to like save me from losing my job right now. No, I'm gonna. Listen, I'm dragging you into the pits of hell one way or the other. He's got an unserious podcast right now, by the way What what what is going on here?

We agreed a prior to the show we were running this clip I feel like producer rivers is trying to help re in ways. He doesn't know that I'm trying to okay Here well, I am trying to help but it was processing took a while. It's ready. Okay, do we want to play it? Oh Yeah, we do. Here we go Since you don't watch it would be in your head when you pleasure yourself I've never never in my life pleasure in your life You're lying! You're lying! The God is my witness! I'm so confused. I'm confused. I'm confused. I'm confused.

He's about to strike you down! He's about to strike you down! Hey, I'm telling you this. I'm telling you the truth. Why do I really believe them though? Okay, now see, my next statement is going to sound arrogant. What is it? I never had to.

Hey! There you go! I never had to! See, he was just setting up a punchline, Ari. Oh, hey, there you go. Look at that. See, he was just setting up a punch line, Ari. I mean, that is that is the best way, like, and the ultimate Dion response to that. Like, I never had to. He set it up perfectly.

Do I believe him? No, not not not in the least. I'm trying my best here. Should I just stop? Should we just go to the next thing? Like, Deon probably doesn't have to for a long period of time in your life, but puberty happens when you're very young. Can we have a segment?

Chat, you tell me. Do we need a recurring segment where I push buttons on Ari that I know will cause him to go insane and say things that will get him fired and just watch him try to exercise self-control? Because we've done it twice now with me suggesting that Dion is building something at Colorado and then Ari gets mad because he's not doing home visits.

And then it's not even no, it's not you always miss God. Go to the school. Don't go to the school. It's just prioritize that as part of your program. Bill. Ari is trying to go back to that because he does not want to talk about the other clip. The other clip is, I cannot think, I don't think that's possible for a human male, for that to be true. That's all I'm going to say. Because you weren't in the NFL when you were 13 and 12 or whatever, whatever age you found yourself. It's not, I can already have swag. I got

your madder stood pro bowler and Hall of Famer might not have to when they're older. Um, that cannot be true. That's all I'm gonna say. It's just not true. Like, I'm like, okay. Yeah, it's like, how dare you? I feel like a battery operated toy having water pouring on it right now. I don't know what. We talk about this behind the scenes. The thing that you guys need to know about this is that we try really, really hard

and discuss how we can be as a show. And I think there are other very successful podcast shows and shows that are more forthcoming and more out there with what they talk about. We have journalism backgrounds where we came from the New York Times and like they had to like change. I said the word crazy in a story and they took it out because it was offensive to people with mental illness. So like we are like in the spectrum of like where how far can we go and how me can I.? Well, and also people come here to hear talk, let's talk about college football.

And it's a pretty hard record scratch if some of our off air conversations were to make it onto there. But like, if you had to estimate how, what percentage of me the audience sees, what would you say? I think they are only getting the tip of the iceberg. I think they're getting 5% of Ari.

Right. And how much? The other 95% is depraved. And if you- Depraved. What if they got 80 or 20% of Ari? Like how far can you go before the show, we can't do it? Like that's the thing. We can do it, but we're doing it on our own. You're not

collecting a salary. Make the listener and I actually feel like the people who listen to us in their car are like part of our like podcast family. Like I view that. That's not some corny thing that like I and I hate corniness. I actually hate the word brotherhood when it comes to college football. Like it's like, I don't want to hear all the same. You really hate Duke basketball then, right? Iron sharpening iron and all that stuff. Like it's like I hate cliche. But I do actually want our podcast to feel like you're at a bar with your friends, right? That's the, like the mission statement for me of what this is.

If I talked about what you just showed at the bar with my friends, that would be a very rampant and healthy discussion. And I can't have that with you right now because we're in this position and I don't know how much of that I'm allowed to have. Like, I don't, I think we should have like an off season meeting with Shannon to talk about that. How far can I push this conversation?

Because I have given you 1% of what I feel about it. And I think I'm going to stop at 1%. GoatDog and Snap saying, our friend T-Bob, Zach and GoatDog saying, our friend T-Bob on his show, Snaps, does not worry about that. Blows right through the line. So let's see we need like how much quorum do we need? It's a good question. It is a legitimate question because I do think we have a significant number of people who probably listen with their kids in the car and we would have like, I feel like we would have to seriously warn them because

like, you know, like I go on pardon my take and big cats come on here. They're very clear about what they are as a show. You know what you're getting. So if you're listening to that with your six year old in the car, like that's your fault, not their fault, but we don't put the E on it because we don't cross that much. But the same time though, pardon my take is the most successful college sports podcast on earth. Well, it's not a college sports podcast. It's just the most successful college sports podcast on earth.

Well, it's not a college sports podcast. It's just a sports podcast on earth. And like people manage to listen to it without their children in the car. So like I don't know. And it's like, and I'm not even saying that should be the show all the time. But like we get off topic. And like this is a very funny thing. Like, say what you want about that clip because it's widely inappropriate. It's hilarious.

Like the thing that is funny and he set it up so well, and I don't know. Like I want to know going before it started to did the host of the show tell him they were going to bring that up or did he did he manufacture because the setup punch line of that if he did that on the fly the setup punchline of that, if he did that on the fly with no prep, not knowing that question was coming

was pretty spectacular. Yeah. I just don't think it's physically possible. Oh. From an anatomy standpoint. Listen, most of our listenership is male. I think most people are just nodding and agreeing. Yeah, nodding and agreeing, nodding and agreeing.

All right. One more thing before we go. And if you're wondering why the hell haven't these guys talk about this, it's because we had a whole show on it last night. I left Easter dinner early to record this. Nico Imauliava is now at UCLA. If you want to hear more in-depth thoughts on it, we did a whole emergency show. It's on the podcast feed. It's also on the On3Sports YouTube channel. And we talked about all the different things.

The thing that we got to at the end, Ari, that I keep coming back to, I think is really interesting, is I think we really are going to talk more about UCLA this year. There's no question. That's not a how could you Nico is might be a weekly segment. But we've seen players go to schools and then just disappear. But I this is why I'll say this. Tell me if I'm wrong here about Nico. And this is now that the news is settled and all this, we can, we can really autopsy this

entire situation. Is it just me or is Nico part of that club of certain people? Dion Sanders being one of them, like Tim Tebow was one of them, where if you talk about them, people will listen. People will watch kind of no matter what you say. People they just trigger people. I don't know if Nico himself trigger triggers people like him as a human like is like if you ever watched him talk or

been around him. He's like a nice he's very quiet and unassuming. Yeah, I'm assuming exactly. People are very fired up about the direction in which college football is headed. Some people think the game is being ruined. Whether you agree with that's not important, but a lot of people think that NIL is the bane of their audience.

And he epitomizes what people, a large portion of our audience and college football fans believe, which is being greedy and money hungry and NIL driven is the enemy of college football. And now whether he likes it or not, he epitomizes that. And by epitomizing it, your story now is intertwined with how people feel like it's going to play out. So people are gonna watch him on Saturdays or are going to pay attention to him on Saturdays

as a cautionary tale or an interested party to see what NIL hungry people do. And there might be Schadenfreude involved, which is people are rooting against him and want to show the world that being this way is the wrong way to be. And there might be people who root for him because they believe that he was worth more than he was being paid. Maybe that's a smaller percentage of people, but there are people out there that think he deserved to try to use his leverage and they're going to see how it plays out. But I think that like the Nico story wasn't just where is he going to end up. The Nico story now is, is the bad business practices of his

team going to play out. The season might have ended of the television show, but season two is coming out, and season two is coming out in October and September, and people are going to be paying attention to it. So this isn't like Narcos after Pablo Escobar died. Like this is, we're still very much into the meat of the story here, and I think that Niko, like River River come on up here for a second. Are you going to pay attention to Nico next year?

And maybe you're the wrong. Oh every me and every Tennessee fan around will Nico watch they do to Butch Jones. I mean they'll do it to anybody that's been. Yeah, maybe I don't think they watch Arkansas State games that close. That they'll be watching will be more. Yeah, severe.

Yeah. Yeah. And like are you rooting against him? No, no, I'm not. I hope he performs well, to be quite honest. I hope he performs to what we think he is capable to perform. I think that's an atypical response that you'll get from a Tennessee fan, by the way. Yeah, you're generally very nice person. Well, thank you. I mean, I'm not going to Yeah, you're generally very nice person. Well, thank you. I mean, I'm not gonna pray on his downfall or anything I mean his situation was messed up and Hopefully he the grass is greener for him. Yeah, the grass is the Rose Bowl Grass of Neyland Stadium is pretty green. So I don't know

I don't know how it's gonna play out. But like when you say are we going to talk about UCLA? Yeah. And also to the thing that we haven't spent enough time talking about, which is what if it works? Like everybody's like, oh, he went to UCLA. The team's terrible. He's making less money and he's going to get his ass kicked by Ohio State next year. But like, what if they're nine and three and he has a great year? Like that could happen, right? I don't know. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then and then

the thing he wanted, which is a high draft position, big money in the NFL that that's that happens for you. If you elevate them to that level that happens for you. So it's going to be an interesting story one way or the other. And I think you're right. I think I think you're gonna have a lot of Tennessee fans hate watching and not just since he fans, because there are a lot of people like you said, who look at NIL as the downfall of college football and him as example of all the worst aspects of it. So I do think that there's gonna be quite an audience for it. All right, let's

talk about another quarterback in the portal. Steve Angelli, so Pete Nacos called me this morning and said that he and Steve Wilt Fong were trying to figure out where Steve Angelli was visiting. Because they heard he was visiting a power conference school trying to figure out where he was visiting. They enlisted me to call one school to check and see if it was that school.

It was not that school and Steve Wiltfong has solved the mystery. Former Notre Dame quarterback Steve Angelli is visiting Syracuse. Now, we know Fran Brown won't be giving anybody two million dollars. He made that abundantly clear last week. I thought that Syracuse might have been a potential landing spot for Niko.

I don't think they were going to pay for that. Yeah. Now they have already named a starter at Syracuse. They have already named the starter, the LSU transfer Ricky Collins. So whether this means that that job is now an open competition again, or they're bringing in Steve Angeli and be like, look, we've already named our starter. If you'd like to come here, you can come here. But I, and I, I don't know about you, Ari. I'm assuming negotiations with Fran Brown are just

a little bit different than with everybody else. Cause he doesn't, like, he just doesn't little bit different than with everybody else because he doesn't like he just doesn't seem to put up with the same kind of BS or throw out some of the same BS that these other coaches do. My understanding is that Steve Angelli goes to Syracuse with the understanding that he's going to be the starter. Like I don't think that he's going to transfer somewhere where he has to ride the bench because he would ride the bench at Notre Dame. He loved Notre Dame. He wanted to be there. Why would he go be a backup at Q's? Because maybe there's not a place you can be a starter right now. Then I would have assumed if. So you think that it's possible he went into the portal thought he

was going to find a starting spot and is going to find that he's can't be a starter anywhere and is going to well, it's sort of like I'm assuming Nico went into the portal thinking 30 schools will be bidding for him and it didn't turn out that way. Like the market for quarterbacks in April is not robust. Yeah. That it's not the same as a defensive tackle like a defensive tackle go into the portal and have four schools bidding on him immediately.

Yeah. But that's just not how it works at quarterback because you invest in your quarterback early. You want that person in for spring practice. So I, I don't know what the, what the real story here is. We'll find out. I mean, he's visiting. It doesn't mean he's going there. Yeah. But obviously Syracuse did really well with Kyle McCord last year. So we'll see what happens. Another piece of news. We've got Oklahoma defense tackle David Stone went into the portal. Now is out of the portal. He's staying at Oklahoma. So I was not a sooner bread and when I die, I'll be sooner dead.

There you go. Five star recruit was a freshman last season played some. They were hoping that he was going to take the next step in his evolution this year. So he will continue to play for Oklahoma, which you are very excited about. You think it's going to be one of the more interesting teams in the country this season. The sec is fascinating this year and I'm a, I'm just a little tenor,

but like I'm excited. Uh, I'm excited for a lot of the teams in the sec this year to see, you know, what they turn into. And like Oklahoma is a program that has a long storied history of being consistently good. And I think that the notion that they're going to stink this year because they weren't very good last year is a fool's errand. I don't know that that means they're going to be great or against that schedule if they're going to go win 11 games, but I think they're going to be much better than they were last

year and potentially a pain in the ass for everybody on their schedule. Like an eight and four or nine and three Oklahoma is a problem for somebody who might be making the playoff. If they go eight and four or nine and three against that schedule, I think that they belong on the same field as just about anybody in the sport. So here's the thing.

I am very, very, like if John Matier would have gone to Miami, I would be like all in on Miami right now. Like where John Mattier went was going to move the needle for me because I watched a lot of him and I've watched a lot of him since. I don't think people appreciate

how good he is yet. Right, right. He's very good. They add Jade not. They're better on the offensive line because a lot of the offensive line with Oklahoma was they had guys that they had signed out of high school who probably weren't quite ready yet, who are probably more ready now.

And they messed up early in NIL. So their classes are 21 and 22. So when Texas was loading up on really good offensive linemen out of high school. Oklahoma was not handling NIL properly. They were not making the kind of offers you need to make to get those guys. And so they basically punted on two classes of offensive linemen. Offensive linemen are not microwavable ready products.

Jordan Seaton came in and started at Colorado right away. Most of them can't. So you've got to develop them. I do think they're going to be better. I think they've had some time now for the 23 classes and the 24 classes to develop. And then we'll save receiver. It sucks that Giovanni Gibson got hurt. Oklahoma quarterbacks last year, Michael Hawkins Jr. and Jackson Arnold only threw for more than 200 yards twice in a football game all year. As we talk about Michigan's offense being fractured,

Oklahoma's offense was pretty fractured maybe for different reasons, because I don't know that it was completely incompetent quarterback play, but I think it was obviously a rash of injuries, but also weak offensive line play. And the two games they threw for more than 200 yards were against Maine, which doesn't count. And then the other one was against South Carolina and they lost 35 to nine. Yeah, they threw for 200 yards because South Carolina had a huge lead and was just sitting on it the whole game. Right. So and then here's the thing though.

They only were in were not in three games this year that they played. They were in every game that they played and one was the Texas. One was to South Carolina and the other one was to LSU which were fairly good to great teams. So, um, if they were a complete dumpster fire last year, which is, you know, losing, you know, what was it?

Seven games last year. Um, I think that they could lose three or four be much improved and beat teams that people don't anticipate Oklahoma could beat this year. So I am they are much better from a personnel standpoint than they were last year. I thought they were competitive in most games that they played despite the fact they were completely killed by injury. They are a team that I would buy into. So and I don't I think Brent Venables is a good coach. I know people think he stinks right now and like everybody thinks that what happened last year is true forever But like I don't think he's a bad coach. So, um, not a I'm not a Oklahoma truth

Or but I think that they they have a shot to do something this year that people aren't that aren't on anyone's radar right now Well, and that's the thing There's a lot of that in the SEC and then there's a lot of Teams that we're assuming are gonna be playoff teams and it's gonna get some of them will be bad. Like, I mean, between Florida, Oklahoma, Alabama, burn, Auburn, like some of these teams are going to be bad, but some of them are going to and some of them are gonna be surprisingly good. You and I have said we think Auburn could be very good

this year. And, and maybe Auburn will be terrible and Oklahoma will be good or Oklahoma will be terrible and Auburn will be really good. But like they're not all going to just stink again. Correct. Exactly. There will be some changes. And that's the fun part. All right, tomorrow. 10 quarterbacks that we haven't gotten much of a taste of yet that I am very, very excited to see. Plus, I'm gonna talk some draft. Also, later in the week, Ari, I wanna talk about the guys

that we're gonna be talking about for the draft next year. Like, who's gonna have a huge year in college football this year so that we're talking about them as first-rounders next year? Hey, we'll talk about all of that this week. We'll talk to you tomorrow.