Andy & Ari On3 - Is your transfer QB a TRUCK or a TRAILER? Transfer Portal Whiparound
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Welcome to Andy and Ari on we need merry Christmas.
I love Christmas.
Didn't grow up celebrating it,
but love it.
Big day for big day for everyone.
It's great.
I like it's strange because as
you guys know, Ari is Jewish and you walk into Ari's great. It's strange because as you guys know Ari is Jewish and
you walk into Ari's house and there's a Christmas tree.
Because we're festive. The thing you have to know about my wife is that it is a Hanukkah
bush. That's how we put it. It's the Hanukkah hairy bush. We're festive people. During Halloween
we got the pumpkins and the ghosts. During Thanksgiving We've got the what's the basket of fruit
that's cornucopia. And we have a cornucopia. Never heard that
word before in my life. But yeah, you know, and
you've never heard that word added to the list. Add it to the
list. I just knew it was on my boxers growing up. But you know,
the it's that yeah, we just like the vibes.
It's vibe city in my house.
And yeah, we're pretty good about it.
So looking forward to it.
We got the eight gifts per person in my family for the eight nights of Hanukkah.
And then we put it underneath the Hanukkah bush.
There you go.
Very nice.
Well, yeah, we got obviously Christmas Eve Christmas coming up.
My kids aren't little anymore,
so I don't have to stay awake till three in the morning
and put together bicycles or possibly run out
in the middle of the night on Christmas Eve
because one of the bike parts isn't working.
You might have to buy a different bike.
Yeah, that happened once, but no.
It's a shame the TaskRabbit didn't exist
back in the day when your kids were young,
so you could have somebody come put together
the bikes for you.
Yeah, you would do that, but no, put together my own kids' damn bike.
Uh, but after this is over, I'm firing up Christmas vacation.
I'm going, I'm going for the Jelly of the Month club.
Cousin Eddie's coming over.
We're gonna get the lights going.
Before we get the star on the show,
is Cody Blair's here.
Can't wait to see his perfect face.
I saw somebody tweet,
does anybody have a recipe for a dairy vegan eggnog?
And the first response was,
I think you might have to just sit this one out dog.
And that was the funniest thing I've ever seen.
So.
Non-dairy vegan eggnog. Yeah. So no egg and no nog. What does that make it? You might
just have to sit this one out dog. Yes. Eggless and noggles eggnog does not compute, but you
know it does. Cody Blair.
On three national scout,
how we doing Cody?
I'm doing excellent.
Just the thought of someone typing
that in as a recommendation in Google,
not immediately just blocking their
IP from existence really just bothers me.
Yeah, I I mean AI has come a long way,
but I can't figure out that that person
just needs to be told. Correct. Don't put this out in public, please.
Yeah. Maybe just keep that one to yourself.
I need Google to recommend that.
Hey, just keep that opinion to you.
You don't have to tell anybody that when we were driving through the night
on Friday night after the Notre Dame game and Andy was trying
not to fall asleep at the wheel.
I was just reading him all the things I think are funny on Instagram. And I've come to the realization
guys, that like standup comedians are geniuses and their works of
art. Nobody can do that. But the funniest place on the internet
is comment sections. Like it is just like the craziness of even
asking what the recipe for that eggnog isn't the funny part.
It's just how people say things and react to them that I get a lot of enjoyment out of but and
It to me like, you know, the internet is you know as people that are online and it's sort of a disgusting place at times
There's a lot of negativity yada yada yada
But I tell you what one meme will get me to be like, you know what?
The internet was actually a really good thing.
You know, like this was worth it, I think.
Yeah.
I think it was worth it.
You totally redeemed yourself.
Exactly.
99.9% toxicity, 0.1% hilarity.
Correct.
We'll take it.
Yeah, so if I can get something to save into my phone,
it was completely worth it.
So I'm here for it.
It's sort of like the transfer portal, which is what we're going to talk about today because we're talking about the guys coming out
of the transfer portal and what they mean for the teams that they're going to. Cody, you've
scouted these folks coming out of high school. You've watched them play in college. You are
essentially both parts of our personnel department, which is what the schools are.
We've been watching with Bill Belichick,
and everybody's acting like Bill Belichick was going
to be the first to bring an NFL-style personnel
department to college football.
You worked in multiple ones that five years ago resembled
NFL personnel departments.
Right.
I think that's just something that personnel departments
have been steadily trying
to mirror for a few years now.
And it's sort of becoming the mainstay amongst personnel departments across the country,
which it needs to.
I would say even when the transfer portal was just getting going a few years ago, you
only had a couple of departments that were actually prepared for it.
So those departments were having a general manager,
a director of player personnel, and they had a separate,
really, I mean, a few years ago, you only had like one guy
or maybe two guys that actually evaluated transfer portal prospects.
Now you have full-fledged departments of people that are doing it.
And honestly, if you want to be able to hang across the country, you have to.
That is not a one job.
So more and more personnel departments are getting
acclimated to changes across the NCA and across the portal.
So it's only a good thing.
And more and more people are getting jobs.
So that's exciting.
And so we're going to talk about some of the,
we've got one or two that have not decided yet, but for the most part, we're going to talk about guys who have already picked where they're going to talk about some of the we've got one or two that have not decided yet.
But for the most part, we're going to talk about guys who have already picked where they're going to go.
And we told you before the portal opened, like this will happen quick.
It won't take long till we have a very good idea of where some of the more impactful people are going.
And let's just start with the quarterbacks, Cody, because that's what everybody wants to talk about.
And Ari and I talked a lot about John Matier at Washington
State when he went to the portal. He's going to Oklahoma following Ben Arbuckle, the offensive
coordinator who's only 29 years old, who was at Washington State with Matier. Cody, what is it
about this? He's a Texas guy. So like, I know you worked in the state of Texas, you worked at Texas
Tech. What was this guy coming out of high and and how did he wind up at Washington State?
right, I think it's an issue of
And I say I think this is a quarterback issue across the board with college programs
Signing kids out of high school is that this kid was a late bloomer in terms of high school starter
And what happens is a lot of these blue blood programs
fill up on quarterbacks before these guys even start.
Some of them before they even play their junior year
of high school.
And for someone like John Matier
who didn't necessarily go to a lot of camps,
you know, make his face,
show his face at a lot of these events
or anything in the off season,
John Matier was just playing ball and he had a solid senior season. He ran the at a lot of these events or anything in the offseason John material is just playing ball and he had a solid senior season
He ran the ball a lot a lot of what you see on Saturdays is the same guy you saw on Fridays
It's not like he oh, yeah, he was 5'8 160 and
This is not a challenge situation where you know, it's yeah
it's really not and I just think it's a matter of teams filling up at the position before he could
you know even get his eyes on tape and
That's unfortunately a lot of people's issues when they played Washington State this year's they had to deal with this guy
And he is a flat-out gamer Andy
I mean this dude is fun to watch I don't know how many folks turned on the CW to check out Washington State this year
But if they did not they missed out on a treat
on the CW to check out Washington State this year, but if they did not, they missed out on a treat.
Yeah, it is.
And I think it's really fascinating to Cody because like when that happens in teams take
players at the quarterback position, when they're sophomores, one, you have a higher
likelihood, I think sometimes of like burnout rate, because if a player is who they are
as a sophomore and you're expecting them to get better
their junior and senior year and then they don't,
then that might be a higher miss rate.
I do miss the days of like play well your senior year,
get an offer type of a deal.
But then at the same time too,
there's players who weaponize that, right?
Like there's three teams or four teams
that are in a spot where they need a quarterback.
There aren't that many available
because everyone's committed.
You know, like Jackson Dart did it right.
Like Jackson Dart at the end of his tenure, like, or at the end of his recruitment,
had no offers yet.
And then he, he blew up and then could basically pick where he wanted to go,
where he might not have been able to do that.
Gabriel did that too.
Yeah.
Right.
But yeah, I go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
Quarterback recruiting is just bizarre to me because I've seen people take
freshman commitments and I've seen people take senior commitments.
And I wonder what the actual hit rate would be from people who wait longer
in high school careers. It's tough, man, because like you said,
the other part of it, I think that's brutal and it's sort of difficult to project,
which is what makes taking sophomore players,
these all American kids that are sophomores
or freshmen in high school, it's a dice roll.
You don't know how that kid's gonna physically develop
if you're taking a high school commitment at 14, 15 years old.
That's a lot of change to a human being
throughout their high school career.
And ultimately what happens is these programs
have to take a risk, you know,
and they have to get their quarterback in the boat
because having a quarterback in the boat
makes life a lot easier
when you're recruiting other positions,
specifically skilled positions,
because you know, hey, it's really nice to be able to say,
hey, we got this top three ranked quarterback
in the country in 2027
or whatever high school class that is now.
And you should be able to play with them.
You don't you want to play with one of the top signal callers in the country and it helps make your life easier and recruiting, but does it necessarily equate getting a dude when the time comes after his senior season?
I don't know if it's that one to one of a ratio.
Do you think it's going to slow down because of the portal?
This is like the the emphasis of like I need to have somebody
locked up four years in advance goes away when you can just
get John Matier to Oklahoma. Like think about how much
brain power was in on the Jackson Arnold recruitment and
like how it all turned out. It's like I wonder if there's
going to be a regression back to the mean when it comes to
when do you evaluate kids like because like I always thought it was weird. Like you're evaluating a person
who hasn't gone through puberty yet. Right. Yeah. I think it's, I think to your, to your
question Ari, it's a matter of if you got the funds to do that by all means, take your
time because if your goal is like, Hey, we're gonna money whip somebody when they enter
the portal, then by all means, if you got the funds, go for it. But I do think ultimately
having that guy out of high school allows you to recruit other positions more efficiently.
And it gives you more solidity towards your future in terms of saying, hey, we have a guy in the wings.
We know what we have. Now, now granted you can mess that up.
If that kid enters the portal
or you bring in another name and you know,
it can make things dicey but ultimately
you gotta play both sides.
So Jackson Arnold.
Jackson Arnold now at Auburn,
Matier comes in at Oklahoma.
What is Oklahoma getting in Matier
and how does it change Oklahoma's offense? Yeah, I think he's
dynamic as hell and really he's the modern quarterback that I
think more and more teams are starting to rely upon and
finding success with at this level because he's extremely
accurate. He takes care of the football. He does an excellent
job of manipulating the pocket and escaping pressure, but
he's truly a dual threat guy.
You can scheme him up in the run game.
He has the ability to score every time he touches the football.
And of course you match him up with his coordinator this past
season, right?
Ben Arbuckle, which you mentioned and I think Oklahoma will
see a completely different offense than they did this past year.
Yes, because material and our buckle will help with that.
But ultimately they have to fix the line and
they have to get these receivers healthy. However, having a
proving gamer like a guy like john mature only helps the
offense moving forward.
I actually did watch the CW by the way they show old episodes
of Unsolved Mysteries that shows electric. I don't know if you
ever watched that growing up.
I used to scare the shit out of me.
He doesn't love Robert Stack.
Yeah, it's like the Arnold's mature thing is just so fascinating to me.
Like we got to ask him about actually like Arnold's upside to right.
Like, well, yeah.
Okay, Cody, you know, about Jackson Jackson Arnold who we got to see at Oklahoma.
I'm not sure we got to properly evaluate him because of the line he's playing
behind and the injuries at receiver.
But what is Auburn getting in this deal?
Yeah, I think it's funny.
We have grown as a football community to essentially decide on what these kids careers are
after taking maybe like three or four snaps of college ball. We got to remember that Jackson
Arnold essentially was starting his first season right with Oklahoma. He played a couple games as
a freshman, but this was really his first go round at the position and I think we need to
pump the brakes and relax on our you know, there's people
calling him a bus. There's people saying he's not it and
why would Auburn spend so much money for a guy that clearly
struggled last year guys?
Jackson Arnold had to deal with. I don't know 50 different
offensive line units up front. He had his top six receiver options all hurt at some point in the year to write
the book on Jackson Arnold, I think is absolute disrespect to the player that
he really was, especially coming out of high school.
I mean, this was a five-star prospect coming out of high school.
He's an efficient passer.
He's he gets the ball out quick.
He's relatively mobile. I think
Auburn's getting someone who's ceiling could be something that
they haven't seen for a couple years, especially under a guy
like Peyton Thorne not no disrespect, but I think it's
about being able to move the chains officially and take care
of the football. Yes, Jackson Arnold threw a lot of picks
last year, there was turnover issues.
I don't think that was necessarily a Jackson Arnold issue.
I think with bringing in a top transfer tackle
that we might talk about later in the show,
it helps that out.
They brought in Eric Singleton as of this morning.
The receiver unit at Auburn is a monster.
So if you just give this guy time to rock and fire,
I think we're gonna see a Jackson Arnold that,
unfortunately for Oklahoma fans,
they never got to see last year.
Andy, start the Auburn train right now for me.
Okay.
I mean, well, I mean, if Arnold hits.
Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga.
Singleton and Coleman.
They're gonna run the ball hard.
Their offensive line's gonna be fine.
They're gonna drop some ball plays.
They're gonna be awesome next year.
Am I nuts?
We think, we think.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not mad at it.
I'm not mad at that thought process at all.
Ari, ultimately, I will say, I mean, as much as I say, yeah,
the supporting cast helps. And, you know, they got some more people out there to support Jackson
Arnold. It is going to be on his shoulders. Don't get me wrong. The quarterback is going to lead
the charge there. But Auburn found itself in a lot of games last year. I know they didn't finish
with the record that they wanted, but they were in it for a lot of ball games last year. If you don't turn the ball over, you have a chance. That's all this cat has to do.
Like you said, get the ball to the game, uh, to the playmakers and just let them go to work.
I don't hate that thought process at all. And also too, like you evaluated Jackson Arnold,
I remember the discourse about him when he was in high school, he was supposed to be the best
quarterback in his class. There was a lot of good quarterbacks in his class.
Right, he can spread around.
If he even comes close to like even looking at the ceiling.
Exactly, and I think that's what that place
did not have last year.
When you can't methodically move the chains,
or for instance, even if you do methodically move the chains,
you get in the red zone, you throw a pick, you can't win.
The turnover margin decides so many football games. and if you can even slightly improve that if you're
that Auburn team last year, you're a completely different
team at the end of the season. So we're going to talk about a
quarterback going to play for Hugh Frees. And the quarterback
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All right, we talked about a quarterback going to play
for Hugh Freeze, That's Jackson Arnold.
Kate Salter once played for Hugh Frees at Liberty.
He then played for Jamie Chadwell for two more years at Liberty.
He still has eligibility.
He is now headed to Colorado and Cody, I don't know about you.
This feels to me like this is the he's going to be the old guy, the starter. And that allows Julian Lewis to come in,
the, you know, hot shot out of high school recruit
to come in and break in gradually
and does not have to jump in and be the starter right away.
I think that's exactly right, Andy.
I think that's how you have to play this.
Ultimately, Colorado's bringing in a signal caller
in Kayden Salter that's played in over 30 games as a collegiate starter.
There's inherent value to that, but I think it also benefits a guy like Salter who has proven to be a dominant player at the G5 level with Liberty.
And this allows him to prove to NFL scouts that he can do the same things that he was doing at Liberty, even with a jump in competition level competing in the Big 12.
Ultimately, I think Colorado will have
a less talented supporting cast around
Salter than they had this past season
around should door Sanders,
but Salter gives them another option
in the run game with his legs that
I think the buffs did not have with
should door behind center that I think
can mask some of those deficiencies out wide.
I think this is the good long term choice for the buffs in leaning Kayden Salter and not forcing a
guy like Julian Lewis, who by the way, not only was he a highly rated 2025 prospect, he reclassified.
So he's younger for the cycle. Give him a year to develop, give him a year to sit and learn under a
guy like Kayden Salter who has plenty of experience. And I think that could pay dividends for the cycle. Give him a year to develop, give him a year to sit and learn under a guy like Caden Salter, who has plenty of
experience. And I think that could pay dividends for the
buffaloes down the line.
Love that long term thought process, Andy for Colorado. I
thought that the whole I mean, just for wrong, we thought we
thought Deion was was piecing out, you know, when this season
started, but it does seem like he's in this to build something.
Yeah also too I thought like the number one selling point for Colorado you know was coming
in play so I'm excited to see that that might not be the case and Salter's a really good player
you know I know it didn't go real well for him at Liberty and things didn't seem to you know work
but I think that they could work at Colorado with the right
coaching.
Well, they didn't work this year.
They were great at first few years.
Yeah.
That's what I was, I mean, yeah, this past season, it wasn't
exactly the same cadence alter that we saw a year ago.
I mean, a year ago, he was thrown for nearly 4,000 yards and
had, was essentially scorching opposing defenses.
But I think, you know, changes scenery benefits some guys. And I think ultimately with what
Colorado's doing, I think this is really a perfect marriage for what Colorado wants to do and what Kayden Salter wants to prove to the NFL community.
Cody, I want to talk to you about what I thought is a very strange situation, because we go back to the end of this season, Duke's had a great year in its first season under Manny Diaz.
Malik Murphy has thrown for a bunch of touchdown passes.
And you see Malik Murphy under the portal.
And the first thought is, oh, Malik Murphy's
just trying to cash in.
He's had a great year.
But then you start to hear some stuff about, no,
maybe it's not quite like that.
And then you see Darian Mensah from Tulane who universally was regarded as this.
This guy goes in the portal.
A lot of teams are going to want him and he very quickly chooses Duke.
What's going on there?
Like what, what is Darien Mensah bringing to Duke?
Because Malik Murphy had a good year, but Derry Mensah had a better year.
Right, and I think if you look at this, right,
Derry Mensah, 6'3", 200 pounds, threw for over 2,500 yards,
20 plus touchdowns for the Green Wave,
getting them to nine wins, vying for a playoff spot
for a good stretch of the year.
And I tell you what, guys, this one is super exciting to me
because Duke, like you mentioned,
they went on a tear this year and that defense was strong as well as the offense. And I believe they
finished what top five in the country in sacks and top 25 and turnover margin, despite Malik Murphy
throwing 12 interceptions. And I think that's where Mensa can tighten things up and change things for
this offense. It's a lot of RPO action guys.
It's a lot of quick timing throws that fits much more to Mensah's
game than Malik Murphy's.
I think Malik Murphy's, you know, one of the most fantastic minds that we have
working at on three Clark Brooks, sec stack cat, he does an awesome job in
the analytical game.
He was telling me that I think Malik Murphy, a quarter of his
drop backs, his targets were slants. That's limiting an offense. And so I think Mensa allows
you to spread things out a little bit more, more efficient with quick timing throws, but he's still
talented enough and physically gifted enough to push the ball vertically. So I think he just
adds more layers to the offense.
Well, and I think this helps explain why Malik Murphy winds
up at Oregon State.
Because I think the assumption when Malik Murphy went in was
he's going to wind up at some major power conference program
because he helped Duke win nine games. But what you just
said clears a lot of that up.
Right. I think it's about maximizing opportunity.
And I think when Duke looked back at looked back at it,
I think they realized that Malik Murphy.
Yes, he played well at times.
And yes, the results on the field were solid.
I think there's there was a little bit left on the bone for
Duke. And I think they wanted to max that up,
maximize that opportunity by bringing in a guy like Darien Mensa,
who I think runs the offense a little more efficiently.
And ultimately that could lead to 10 wins, maybe 11 wins for the,
for the blue devils.
Cody, I'm upset. I'm obsessed with Malik Murphy though,
because of his physical development. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
yeah. Well, I mean, you and I have been to camps together over the years and I saw him at the Elite 11, what, three years ago
now. And then I saw him again the following off season, just in the bleachers at the next Elite
11. And I think you and I were at that one together and he walked by me and I was like, who the hell is that? And they're like, yeah, Malik Murphy.
I'm like, what?
Like, I mean, Matt says he's built like a Greek God, dude.
I mean, he's beautiful.
Like he's all of six four plus all of like 225 and it's not
a lot of fat.
So he is pretty and as we know about football, not just
college football, people are willing to go and look past some of the deficiencies because of the potential, right?
Like, I mean, Anthony Richardson got drafted in the top, what, 15 top 10 this year?
Four. He was the fourth.
And why do they do that? Because he's pretty, right?
Like, are you surprised that Malik Murphy didn't just get another opportunity at a place
that was at least on par with Duke of coach saying, Hey, we can develop this guy.
We can fix whatever the issues are with his intangibles, with his, his physicality.
Um, it just has ability to do things from a strength and stature standpoint that you
just can't teach.
Right.
I just, I feel like, I mean, I was so excited to watch him at Duke this year. I don't know why I can't get past that part of it.
No, yeah, and I don't think you're necessarily wrong.
And I think that's what Oregon State is doing.
They took a guy like DJ you last year, and
I think that's something that they have told themselves like, yes,
what we want to do with our offense is we want to push the ball vertically.
That is what DJ you like to do.
That's how he was as a prospect out of high school.
He has phenomenal arm talent.
I think Malik Murphy fits what Oregon State
has been looking for more than what Duke
has been looking for.
And ironically, I think it's actually going to end up
being the best choice for both programs.
I think for Malik, it allows him to get guaranteed
playing time at a school like Oregon State.
And for Duke, it allows them to have a quarterback that actually fits the offense they want to
run.
So I really do think this is a good marriage for both parties.
Another situation of the marriages that I want to talk about is Miller Moss, because
we were talking after the LSU game this year when Miller Moss, you know, starts for USC and is getting the ball out on time.
Looks like he understands Lincoln Riley's offense really well.
We're like, wow, this is great.
You know, we had some crazy commenter asks, could he actually be better than Caleb Williams?
No, he's not better than Caleb Williams.
But it looked like a nice marriage there.
But then as the season went on, it became clear that actually USC's run game,
maybe a little better than its past game.
And Miller Moss is not necessarily the next great Lincoln Riley quarterback.
He goes to Louisville where Jeff Brom is as much of a quarterback whispers Lincoln Riley.
Now he doesn't have the Heisman winners, but he's done some really good things with his
quarterbacks
through the years.
He took Purdue to a big 10 championship game.
He's already taken Louisville to an ACC championship game.
Can Miller Moss resurrect himself under Jeff Brom?
I think there's a world in which it is possible.
Am I the one that might hammer that bet long term? Not me personally. I think
when you look at Miller Moss and his ability as a passer and what I think he's capable
of in our industry, we talk about quarterbacks that are trucks and quarterbacks that are
trailers, right? Quarterbacks that are trucks or players that carry the team on their backs,
right? These guys are wherever the Diego Pabla with them.
Yes, exactly.
These kinds of guys make things happen and they move the ball downfield,
regardless of their supporting cast.
Trailers are guys that need some help in order to get moving.
Trailers need to be carried along and supported in order to reach the
destination and for really talented programs, I think you can make a trailer
work. You can make a national championship. You can make the playoff. However, I don't know if
Louisville is necessarily built like that to make something like that happen, but they can make a
run for a strong nine or 10 win season. And in this era of the playoff that could be enough to squeak in.
I just think ultimately Miller Moss is talented enough for you to win the games
you should win at Louisville.
I just don't know if he's talented enough to help you win the games that you should
not win if you're Louisville, if that makes sense.
Is Quinn yours a trailer or a truck?
Personally, I know that you were not talking about that,
but like that's all I was thinking about the entire time.
Hey, he qualifies.
He has been in the transfer portal.
So he qualifies.
And we had Quinn Ewers on campus at Tech.
I mean, we had him there in the building.
But like in high school we
thought he was a truck. He was a raptor. Now he is a trailer with like a
cool interior where you can sit down and watch games at a tailgate.
I want to know from a... you view the game in a more amazing and deep way than I
think I might be capable of because you
see it more purely in terms of talent. Well, I see trailer. I see trailer. What do you see?
I don't I don't necessarily disagree with you. And I think a lot of that was put on display
this year, unfortunately, for Quinn yours. And there are a lot of sexy aspects to his game. He has always had a piss rocket of an arm.
That still exists.
Can't push the ball vertically.
That is his game.
He can do that.
He is relatively mobile.
He can escape the pocket.
The thing that I think has shown
Quinn Hewer's limitations this year is the processing, right?
Some mistakes.
He's got moments where he's late on a read or he doesn't go through the progression efficiently and the other thing that I think
to your point Ari is
What we talked about early in the show physical development. I think when yours has lost weight once he got into college
there's
There's a lot of concern from the NFL side and some guys that I talked to that say, hey, man, I don't know
if this guy's physically capable of standing in there and taking
shots at the next level. And I think ultimately, especially now
with, you know, a lot of the injuries happening across the
NFL, especially guys like Tua and some of these other guys
that get banged up pretty consistently. Guys, I don't know
if Quinn yours is 200 pounds right now.
I don't know if he's two Oh five.
And that is a big red flag to me.
So I think there's aspects of his game that you can say Ari that say, Hey man,
I mean, he's got physical gifts.
He can throw it vertically.
He can do all this.
You can push the ball downfield, but you know, you got to help him out.
And that's where the ground game has really, really helped
the Texas offense, the ground game, even with the injuries,
they've been able to sort of mask some of those deficiencies.
I gotta tell you, I gotta find a business like the NFL
where they allowed you for gaining weight.
They don't always.
I'm right there with you, dude.
My friend Desmond Watson at Florida
is not gonna be praised, but no, he will
in my heart.
Every once in a while you get to get a chance.
All right.
Free.
I'm glad you've you've introduced the concept of truck or trailer because I want to kind
of go back through a little bit with who we were talking about before.
John Matier truck, correct?
Completely 100% because he makes the offense move regardless of who's around him.
Yeah, yeah, Daring Mets a truck completely.
He carried two lane team nine wins.
Absolutely.
So I think that's that's the Jackson Arnold.
That's a tough one.
I think that's a toss up right now.
At this point.
I think it's undecided and I think that's you know, not to. At this point, I think it's undecided.
And I think that's, you know,
not to stand up on my soap box too much.
We don't have to decide right now
if Jackson Arnold is a truck or a trailer.
Let him prove it first.
Give him a little bit of help.
But you do decide it when you assign five stars.
You don't get, there's no five star trailer, right?
That's fair.
I don't disagree with that thought process.
That's a valid point.
But you can be wrong with five stars too, because Malachi
Nelson is the backup at Boise State now, and he was a five-star quarterback.
I mean, you guys rank them so well. Like, I'm in awe of how you do it. I don't even know how
it's possible with how many players. But then I'm not saying that if you rank
somebody two years ago something that you have to continue to think that I
mean players, uh, become trucks that are trailers and some players are trucks.
I mean, I, I get it.
I get some ones, but I think that not being able to decide that as a complete
illustration of the situation that he's in, if you don't know what he is yet,
then that makes me excited about the, you know, I'm a gambler.
I'll roll the dice on this kid who's played what six games behind a team that
didn't give him a supporting cast at Auburn and then throw them with two
Ferraris. Right.
What was the, the red Ferrari that the hot chick from a national Lampoon's was
driving?
Kirsty Brinkley. Yeah. I don't know what she looks like now, but back in the day,
whoo, 16 year old Ari was like,
I would run my car off the side of the road at that woman.
What year did that movie come out?
1983.
1983?
I wasn't even thought of for 10 years later.
So yeah, I was the only one of us alive when that movie came out. I was, I was worshiping Christie Brinkley long before you guys were when she was
Billy Joel's wife. Just Googled her. She's doing great. She's amazing. Yeah. Just incredible.
So, all right. We got to talk about non-quarterbacks because there's some very
important players moving
between schools that don't throw the ball.
But before we do that, let's talk about some saucy nugs.
Ari, your official welcome to On 3.
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You've been training for this your entire life.
You know, I was telling everybody before this, but my dad looked at me in the eyes when I
was a kid and he said, son, you can be anything you want to be.
You just got to put your mind to it and work hard.
And I said, I want to eat Wendy's on camera.
I made it.
Here I am.
So I'm going to just get started.
I'm going to grab some garlic parm. So, okay. I like the the
garlic parm is a very like full
savory. The other like the the
honey barbecue's got your sweet.
Like this is your ultimate savory
here. Buttery and savory.
Nothing better than washing it
down with a crisp zero too, you
know what I mean? Oh yeah, a
little Coke Zero action. Mmm.
Now, that's a spicy buffalo
That's tremendous, I think that's kind of the perfect
That might be my favorite. This is the parmesan garlic and this one I haven't tried yet. Which one it's a little bit hotter
Parmesan garlic. Oh, this is spicy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's pretty damn good. See this
I keep changing my favorite and I think that's the point of this exercise. Yes. That's my favorite one. I
Can put down 32 ounces of Coke zero and be like it will not. Where's the next 30?
Zero and yeah, hey refills in the restaurant
So Wendy's new saucy nugs take the crispy and spicy nugs you love and turn them up to 11 choose between flavors like buffalo
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That's seven delicious ways to try the nugs you already love.
Pick a flavor, grab some extra napkins, and prepare to nug. I've never nugged before.
Andy. Now I'm hungry.
Andy. Now I'm hungry. That could be a national campaign. Like we put our hearts should be that. And I want to tell you guys this too, as like a Jared from subway. Oh, no, not that
guy. Oh God. What are you doing? Trying to get winning the higher some more. Lost 30
pounds and I've eaten Wendy's saucy nuggets pretty regularly along the way because
that video I'm like a I'm a heifer in that video and like I'm still a heifer but like we need to
reshoot we need to reshoot because you you are significantly slimmer now so we definitely need
to reshoot all the pictures of my face that they put on the graphics that on three puts out it's
just like blimp face I need to like get a clean shave in because like I'm working at it you know
and Wendy's did not knock me off the path is what I'm saying.
It's a, it's a healthy alternatives protein, lightly battered protein.
Can I please,
can I please tag in to the next Wendy's campaign? I mean, I was,
I am unbelievably jealous as a, as a fast food connoisseur myself,
I'm violently jealous as a as a
fast food connoisseur myself.
I'm violently jealous that you
guys had to have that campaign.
I want Andy to rub a hot mango
habanero sauce on your face.
He'll do it for you.
That's all I want.
That's all I think it was.
I believe that was garlic parm.
Yeah, that on your face.
I was curious if that got some
eye burnage or eye tears come
with the non spicy version of
it. Mm hmm. Because Ari Ari has done the one chip challenge and then
put his finger in his eye.
So we got to be careful there. You're better than that.
Actually, if you get the saucy nugs and you can't finish
them off for some weird reason or you're a weirdo skin
moisturizer, my pores got cleared up nicely from that.
So the FDA has not evaluated this statement.
Please don't sue us.
I've got great skin.
What can I say?
There are people who've come out of the transfer portal who are not quarterbacks,
who are also very, very important.
Cody, one guy who I remember being a little surprised.
He didn't go in and after his freshman year year just because of the program he was on how great he was as a freshman in the league he was in Dylan Thieneman from Purdue.
He is now headed to Oregon. This feels like a very, very impactful move. Right. This is this was one of the few bright spots for the one and eleven Purdue
Boilermakers this past season. He was a former freshman All-American. And Andy, if you remember,
he was one of my draft picks for Cody Bel Air University in our ultimate draft for the
season. And he did not disappoint. You know, this is a guy that totaled more than 100 tackles
for the second year in a row, as well as collecting four and a half tackles for loss and six pass breakups.
And he didn't have an interception this year compared to his six as a true freshman last year.
But it's tough to come down with picks when the opposing team is running the clock out against the 11 times of the year.
But it is what it is.
And the Oregon Ducks will be looking to replace their starting safeties next season.
Ty Sheen Johnson's out, Kobe Savage out.
So adding a player like the Inamon to fill their shoes
next season is beyond an elite addition for the Ducks.
Getting a three dimensional player that also has a high
NFL ceiling.
Dan Lanning is just doing what he wants out there on the
West Coast.
Yeah, I mean, I know we're breaking down individual players here and
we'll continue to do so, but pretty electric out there, huh?
Like, has he, has he been the most efficient in terms of not only finding
the guys that you think can be impact players, but also plugging holes and stuff?
Like, who do you think if it's not him as the portal king,
this cycle?
Yeah, I think Ole Miss has had a really good track record
of that and they do a great job as a staff.
They're probably one of the early adopters
of the NFL model, right?
That came over from Austin Thomas,
who was my mentor at LSU.
And that's somebody that emphasized this portal
as soon as it got going.
And I would say Ole Miss has historically been in that world,
but this year, man, it's the Red Raiders at Texas Tech.
And I know I'm so glad you brought them up because the next guy I was going to ask you about
is Cole Wysniewski from North Dakota State.
But we can talk about all of the guys that are coming to Texas Tech and also the guys
that may not be going there, but they got to at least come visit and look at it. Like, sure. What are Joey McGuire company doing right now?
Right. And I mean, it's, it starts with Cody Campbell, which I know is a person that if
you're familiar with the, with the city of Lubbock and in Texas tech university, Cody Campbell is,
that's the guy that's funding everything over there. Double Eagle.
So they got somebody that's a former player at Texas Tech who's gone on to do some great things
in the oil and gas industry and he's been really successful and that's someone that is willing to
put his money where his mouth is and he's trying to and you know that's that's the world we live
in now in college football especially in in the portal. You gotta have
some money to back things up and the other side of that is
you know, we look at Florida State this past year. They
brought in a ton of transfer, but it doesn't necessarily
translate to wins and I think you gotta give kudos in that
Texas Tech building to the guys that are evaluating.
And that's James Blanchard.
That's Brian Nance.
That's Sean Kenny.
They got a bunch of guys in that personnel office that know what it means to be a Red Raider and what those guys look like.
And I think that's the difference, right?
Is being able to put your money where your mouth is, but also bringing in guys that you know can make an impact and actually fit
into the team. And so I think Cole Wisniewski is one of those guys, Texas Tech's losing CJ
Baskerville to the NFL who played that star role that you see a lot of teams have now on defense,
which is basically like a heavy safety or a big nickel defender. And Wisniewski fits the physical
and athletic profile to a T.
So I think the folks in Lubbock will be hearing his name over that loud speaker
a ton of times at 2025.
Do you guys see the threads on the internet of people or message boards
saying, I'm going to get an electric car if the oil and gas guy is going to make
Texas tech.
Yeah, that's, and ironically, of course,, is my my wife, my now wife is,
you know, works for Tesla. And so it's funny to be like, uh, Nat, our friends over in Lubbock
are doing some pretty good things with that oil money out there. I hope things are okay.
Cool it on the Teslas for a minute. Stop selling so much. But relax guys. Let's talk about
Cole was new see that that who's coming from the by Z and this was a guy that a lot of people in
the FBS wanted when the name went into the portal. What is Texas that getting? Yeah, this is a we
talked about Dylan Tiananmen, right? And that's someone who I think the NFL community and
college community would call a three dimensional safety. And
when you talk about three dimensional safeties, that's
guys that can function in three levels of the position, you're
being asked to play run support, you're being asked to play man
coverage, and you're being asked to play zone coverage. I think
Cole Wisniewski is very similar in that aspect to Dylan
Tiananmen. The issue is, Wisniewski is coming off a foot injury in 2024,
right? Didn't play the entire year. And you compare that to his 2023 season.
This is a guy that was a consensus FCS All-American. And the fun
wrinkle to that, to me, guys, that was his consensus FCS all American and the fun wrinkle to that to me guys, that
was his first year playing safety in college was when he was an FCS all American. So this
is the type of player that Texas tech is saying, Hey, if that foot's healed, this is the type
of prospect that could be coming to the back half of our defense. And I wouldn't be shocked
if that's the case from what I've heard that foot's good to go. So I wouldn't be shocked if was new skis making plays in the backfield
and in the back end.
Hmm.
Oh, you can play guys. Travis Travis Hunter as a has inspired people. Oh goodness.
We use so many river clip this and say Belair thinks Cole is the next Travis Hunter
and just like run that as a promo?
Book it.
Well, hey, you've been clicking your own or sellers and you were right about that.
That one worked out.
That one was pretty good.
Didn't make it to New York, but he had a pretty good little year, I think.
Yeah. year I think. Yeah the Texas technique is amazing because they are that team
this portal cycle it doesn't matter unless you cash it in turn it into wins
so we'll see what they do with it but they certainly do seem to be upgrading
the talent. You mentioned Ole Miss as a team that has done this all along and
one thing I thought I think they've done well
is taken the guys with a lot of eligibility remaining
and then kind of developed them as Ole Miss players,
not necessarily as, because like Jackson Dart,
you don't think of as a guy who went to USC, Jared Ivy,
you don't think of as a guy who went to Georgia Tech.
Like a lot of those guys were transfers,
but they were Ole Miss players for a lot longer
and essentially had a whole college career at Ole Miss.
Caleb Odom is an interesting one to me.
Now played high school football in Georgia,
I believe with Julian Lewis,
was his high school teammate.
He was a freshman at Alabama this year.
I was in Tuscaloosa in the spring
and ran into Jalen Milrow
and he was so excited to talk about Caleb Odom.
But Caleb Odom did not have a huge impact on the tie in the
offense this year.
This is a large wide receiver.
If we want to get into labels, you can call him a tight end.
You can call him like a flex tight end.
It doesn't really matter.
He's a pass catching target who happens to be huge.
Can Ole Miss unlock something in him that Alabama didn't this year?
Yeah, I think it's going to come with opportunity.
There's a lot of good pass catchers on that Alabama offense.
Not to say Ole Miss doesn't have talented pass catchers in their room as well,
but this is a guy at Alabama this past year that only caught seven passes on the year.
But to your point, this is one of the freakier athletes to come out of that
2024 cycle last year. Six five, 220 plus pounds, which is why you have that conversation of is he
a tight end? Is he a receiver? But this guy's a hooper. I mean, he had college basketball offers
coming out of high school and he could jump out the gym, but he's also got the hip fluidity and
all that good stuff to break in and out of his routes.
So I think with guys like Trey Harris and juice Wells and Jordan Watkins,
they're all moving on to the next level,
which means there's a ton of targets up for grabs and I am willing to put money
that Lane Kiffin is going to do whatever he needs to do in order to make sure a
freak show like Caleb Odom sees his fair share of targets in that Ole Miss offense next season, no matter who's throwing the football.
I mean, what a sales pitch to that would be, right?
You know, there's a lot of balls going up in the air there and
a lot of receivers going on to the next level.
And it's always interesting to me when guys who are freaky enough to take that
Alabama offer, move on and go somewhere else where they don't have to worry about
other people that are freaks at the same level that they do in Alabama, right?
Sure. Yeah. And I think it's just one of those deals too, where I think a lot of us are getting
caught up as well in the freshman receiver production. This year is abnormal. This is
not normal to have this many freshmen wide outs making this big of an impact in the passing game
this year. I mean, we got guys like Cam Coleman, Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams, TJ Moore. You
watched TJ Moore last night. TJ Moore's balling out. Guys, that's not normal for freshmen
to be doing this at this level in particular. So there's going to be some guys like Caleb
Odom and there's some other white outs in the 24 cycle that are changing scenery and
That might be what's best for them down the line
It's okay to take a little bit of time to develop
But what we're seeing out of the freshman position right now that receiver is is insane
But to your point Ari, I think change the scenery might just be what's best for him here
So staying in the SEC we did mention Jackson Arnold going to Auburn,
but another guy that you like going to Auburn
is Xavier Chaplin, offensive tackle coming from Virginia Tech
going to Auburn.
And I thought Auburn's offensive line was not bad this year.
It's interesting, cause that's been the unit,
throughout the Gus years, the Brian Harsin years,
they could never seem to get that one
where they wanted it,
but it feels like there's there's close to
as close as they've been in a long
time to getting it where they want it.
How much does this guy help?
Yeah, I think this is a big
pickup in two big ways for Auburn.
I think the impact not only comes from
being the top rank tackle out of the
portal right because according to
on threes transfer rankings,
that's where he sits right now.
But you also give your new starting quarterback some peace of mind when he
drops back.
And I think that's where the value really comes because as we mentioned, Jackson
Arnold was seeing ghosts last year and there's a sense of security that a guy
like Xavier Chaplin brings to the roster in order for Jackson Arnold
to feel a lot more comfortable in the pocket than he did this past season.
And it allows for this Auburn offense to open up the passing game a bit more in
order for what Ari mentioned earlier, those receivers, man,
get those guys the football, let them do what they do best.
Let them get vertical, let them have the ball in their hands.
They just landed one of the top white outs in the portal this morning and
Eric Singleton from Georgia Tech. So you know they want to get wide
receivers to football and Chaplin is a terrific pass protector. He's so technically sound.
I think guys, to be honest, this might be arguably the most impactful transfer
in the entire cycle on the offensive side of the ball outside of the quarterback position.
I was gonna say, what, what, John,
but here we should have that outside of the QB position.
This guy could single-handedly determine what Auburn success is as an offense,
because if, if Jackson Arnold gets hit in the back, first game twice,
you have no clue where you're going to get for the rest of the year.
So if you can keep Jackson Arnold protected in this guy is the pillar for his blind side
It could change the entire scope of your offense. I'm I'm buying Auburn stock
Ari was already in on our before you said all that so
Well, this is part of the equation. Yeah, you got it Yeah, take notes from the master class ad that we had earlier. Are you just got to take notes? That's everything
they said in the master class ad are things that I've struggled
with. So I need to I need to get the class number one bet within
your means.
Cody, let's, let's do one more before we go. And this is a
really interesting one to me, because I'm always fascinated
by the ones that are that are massive recruits
They don't necessarily make a big splash right away
But then they move somewhere right away and this guy is going to a place where they need people in his position and
They get very excited about people with lots of stars next to their name. So Williams Noire
Stayed home went to Missouri. He was the number one D lineman in his class. He went the portal after
this season, which was not a huge season for him when the
portal he's now at Nebraska, where Tony White goes to
Florida says defensive coordinator, they have a mass
Exodus off their D line of the guys who could have come back
and of course, Nash Hutmaker and Ty Robinson
are going to the NFL.
So they are very deficient at D-line right now.
They need some people who can make an impact right away.
Can Williams and Wary do that?
Yeah, I think that's the big question, Andy.
And not to make Ari start salivating necessarily,
we know he loves the pretty football players
But when we talk about guys that are pretty as all get out when walking off the bus
I mean, this is the guy you draw up in your mind. We're talking
6 6 plus
260 pounds he's got over 36 inch arms and he's got over a 7 foot wingspan
That is not normal.
This dude is a total albatross coming off the edge and you know,
he played less than 50 snaps from a zoo last season.
He's still scratching the surface as to what he could become in the future.
But I tell you what, if you're Nebraska, this is ideally,
this is not a long-term project because Nebraska lost a ton of edge defenders and they did not take Williams and Neri to sit on the bench or rotate in.
This is a team that, like you mentioned, Andy, they lost multiple defenders along that defensive line to the portal this cycle.
So they need Neri to grow up in a hurry in order to put a bandaid over that wound.
So I think he has the physical and athletic ability
in the world, he's got all of it.
That's all there.
And that's why he was so thought of,
he was thought of so highly out of high school,
but he has to be able to put it together on all three downs.
This is not a situation where you're coming in
as just a situational pass rusher.
He has to become an integral piece of that front seven
and he has to be a three down player. He has to be able to run support,
has to be able to set the edge,
but he is a lot more comfortable coming off the edges of past rusher and able to
pin his ears back for being such a young buck,
but he's got to develop that other side of his game in order to make a real
impact for the corn huskers.
Just love five star talent going to new places.
It's like it's like opening a
present on Christmas Day because.
The the the promise is all still there.
It hasn't changed, it's it's just.
You don't know.
You don't know how much
you're going to enjoy playing with this.
But the promise is there. It's it's that
thing you saw all the commercials for. But the Cody's
point like the expiration date on whether or not they can
still play like a five star has to be past their first year.
But you can't you can't go well. They didn't become a Heisman
finalist in year one that I mean, because I know that you
know, correct me if I'm wrong, but the way that you guys rank
isn't always about
who's ready to step in right away, right? It's always about
all ceiling and tangibles and stuff, too. So it's
correlated draft projection. Yeah, that's how we do it. If
you take a five star player who hasn't played much, you
basically just got to insert a player who's grown another year
since you thought he had the physical tools to be that. So I think it's a really
exciting situation and good for Nebraska.
No doubt. Well, we got a Nebraska in a bowl game coming up, by the way.
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Cody, I did want to, I thought we were done,
but there's one more coming out of the portal
that has not picked a destination yet
that fits into the conversation we were just having
about Williams and Wright.
Now there's a bigger sample size with this guy,
but he was an elite, elite recruit
showed flashes of it when he played, but did not always live up to it.
So I speak of course of Zachariah branch, the receiver who just left USC.
We do not know where he's going yet.
What will he potentially bring to a team and how, if you are the coach
taking Zach branch, how do you are the coach taking Zach Branch,
how do you get out of him a more consistent version
of those flashes we saw?
Yeah, this one is probably the most intriguing,
I think out of them all,
because it's not like Zachariah Branch
didn't have opportunity at USC, right?
Like this is a guy.
Put this all on Lincoln Riley. I don't think. Yeah. And I don't think you can put it on Miller
Moss either. Right. Like, or Jayden, my avat, like it's not like the issue was targets.
He led the team and targets at receiver. So I think this is ultimately a decision where he knew
he's going to be highly sought after in the portal. And I think he just wants a fresh
start. And it's is maybe the thought process here that he
wants to just play for a winner. Because everything you would ask
for when in terms of prospects entering the portal is give me
the especially the receiver position, it's feed me the ball,
who's throwing it to me. I think USC one prove that they feed him the ball
in two
Miller Moss goes to Louisville. And so yeah, sure. Maybe that's a question mark
But guys when my oba took over he had 13 targets in three games. It's not like he wasn't getting looked at so
I think if you're the head coach at the next destination for Zachariah branch
You know, the guy is electric with the ball in his hands.
That's the game plan, right?
He was a freshman all-American as a return man.
And you know, that's how he changes the game.
It's when the ball is in his hands.
He didn't have a receiving touchdown this entire year
until what?
Week 10, week 11.
So I think if your goal to get the most
out of Zachariah branch it's about scheming Zachariah branch up for touches
whether you do that on reverses whether you have them line up in the backfield
whether you feed him screens whether you feed him tunnel bubbles all that good
stuff you have to put the ball in the most electric playmakers hands and
however you can do that that's what you got to do to make him successful.
And I think ultimately Zachariah Branch has to do his part on his end as well.
You're not just a gadget guy.
You got to prove you're more than just a gadget.
You got to prove you're a route runner.
You got to prove you can win contest to catches because that's what's going to
separate him from other white outs in the game. So he is extremely intriguing because it's not like
opportunity wasn't there. So we'll see how it goes at the next spot. I'm really curious how that pans out.
So one more, one more, and this is a guy I know Ari loves. It's sort of the opposite of Zach Branch
because this is a guy who's a three-star recruit
Who proved in his time at his first school that he's very good
And that's Casey's conception who's leaving NC State and headed to we're not entirely sure yet, but
Now you've got a guy who has demonstrated
He's magic with the ball in his hands. He's been very productive at a high level.
Is this the more sure thing?
And where do you, you know,
how do you think he gets used in his next school?
Great job, Andy.
I'd say ding, ding, ding on that.
I think you absolutely nailed it.
The deal with Casey Concepcion is that he's one of the more
highly sought after guys this cycle at receiver for a reason.
He, you know, this is a guy that was a former freshman, all American that had
amazing production. He caught over 70 passes over 800 yards, 10 touchdowns.
He carries the ball onto side runs and all that good stuff. And yes,
he does play a factor in the return game as well.
So the player is very similar to Zachariah branch,
but he's a terrific offensive weapon that has been proven that you can scheme up touches for him in order to get production out of.
Hey, you know, this isn't a guy that I think you throw outside and tell yourself, hey, if we need a first down or a score in the red zone,
we'll just look his way and he's probably open or he'll make a play even if he's covered.
That's not his game. He's someone that has to work primarily in the slot or in the backfield to maximize his ability. I think this could be a player that a team
is quote unquote overpaying for due to knowing exactly what they're going to get by adding
them to the roster. And that's exactly to your point, Andy. He's more of a surefire
bet than arguably any other receiver in this class because you know exactly what is
entering your receiver room when he walks in it. Ari's ready to sign him right now. Ari's throwing cash.
Ari, BMW, I like both. I think that whenever you can add somebody who makes exciting plays on SportsCenter, that adds
to the intrigue of it, but also at the same time too, you need somebody you can count
on. And it's the third and eight catches and the red zone first down receptions and traffic
that might not be on SportsCenter's top 10 that actually win you football games too.
And I'm very curious which and it's the knowing what you're gonna get game after game after game and not necessarily
There's gonna be one great game and then four were not much happens. I think there's
Consistency by guys who don't go in the portal and then find their place in two hours
Like I like guys that like it makes it more fun to follow
because it's like these guys have both been in
for over a week.
Okay. I know.
I know why I was saying this.
Cause if this were Ari, he'd want to go to every visit.
He'd want all those.
He didn't want to get wine and dined.
Like he, he's not going with the do not contact tag.
Yeah.
No, I never did even in dating.
Even if Ari was
tampered with, let's say, right, like he's like, No, I'm gonna
milk these. I'm like, you call me. Correct. You call me. Tell
me how great I am. Tell me how pretty I am.
I tell you what, that was like, easily the most frustrating
part is when you're dealing with a kid that's been in college
for I don't know, three years already. And they're like, yes,
or when are we doing the photo shoot on the tour?
And you're like, God, I can't believe we're doing this.
You are 23 years old.
Some of these guys are like, can we stop with the photo shoot?
We're good. Yeah.
I want a scepter and a throne.
That's what I'm saying.
We should have already contributed to Social Security.
Can we just cut the shit and just sign the papers?
You aren't even on your parents insurance anymore.
Please let it go.
Yeah, it's oh gentlemen.
This has been wonderful, but we need to we need to let you guys
cry.
Look Cody.
He's a new husband.
He's got to get to his bride.
Lucky woman.
That's right Ari.
You got your family.
You got you got eight eight magical crazy nights.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got a fire up Christmas vacation.
I got to see Margo and Todd.
Everybody.
Thank you so much.
We love you.
Merry Christmas.
Happy Hanukkah.
And we will talk to you again on Thursday.