Andy & Ari On3 - Jaden Rashada SETTLES with Ex-Florida Coach Billy Napier: A look at the worst deal of the NIL era | Arizona State-Texas not happening? UCLA's Mick Cronin at Michigan State

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

As the NIL era continues to evolve in the world of college football, one of the more notable stories in past years involves Florida and Jaden Rashada. As Rashada signed a lucrative NIL contract with Florida back in 2022, things fell through. Watch here as Andy & Ari breakdown this bizarre scenario and how much things have changed in recent years. (0:00) On Today’s Episode(1:36) Presenting Sponsor(3:23) Intro: Rashada Settles with Florida(15:22) Being in Rashada’s shoes(22:00) “Ari Wasserman, my white a**”(31:02) Texas backing out of Arizona State series?(44:13) Sherrone Moore’s Evidentiary Hearing(48:04) Do Tennessee fans WANT Joey Aguilar back?(51:54) Aguilar going to combine(53:33) Mick Cronin at Michigan State last night(1:02:42) Andy & Ari, going to war?(1:07:15) Conclusion: Thanks for watching! It's a Megaboard Wednesday episode, and we have some great threads to go through today. After the Jaden Rashada discussion, Andy & Ari dive into the list that our boss Shannon Terry put out yesterday on X. It sparked some major discussion with our friends over at Barstool. Next up, there's another non-conference series currently scheduled that may not happen. Reported from Chris Karpman, Texas has asked to bail on the Arizona State-Texas series in 2032 and 2033. Is this the wrong move? Andy & Ari sure think it is. Continuing, Andy & Ari have an update in the Sherrone Moore case. Do Tennessee fans even want Joey Aguilar back in Knoxville? Andy & Ari discuss the latest in the QB fighting for one more year of eligibility on Rocky Top. To close, the fellas head to East Lansing, where UCLA and Michigan State played on Tuesday night, and Bruins head coach Mick Cronin was fired up. Watch here as the guys break down Cronin's move to eject his own player and to give kudos to the worst question he's ever been asked. Our show is also presented by BetMGM! If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code ON3 and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works: 1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code ON3.2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game.3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sureyou use bonus code ON3 when you sign up! Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary. See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US). Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Watch our show for free on YouTube! https://youtu.be/MIzpM4aaKoE Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Interested in partnering with the show? Email [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today is Andy Nari on three. It is a mega board Wednesday, and the boards are popping. There's all kinds of news to talk about. On Gators Online, our Florida message boarded on three. They are talking about the end of the Jaden Rashada saga. Yes, Jaden Rashada, who never played quarterback at Florida, Billy Napier, who's no longer coached at Florida. They have settled a lawsuit over possibly the dumbest.

contract in the history of the NIL era, which is saying a lot. We will look back. Plus, Ari Wasserman made a list, and that made some people really mad. We talk about that. Also, Alabama fans think we're piling on because Alabama might be trying to get out of the Ohio State Series. We are not, because we're going to pile on Texas today for bailing on Arizona State. That's one of the inside Texas message board threads. And there's another series they want to get rid of too.

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GM, or perhaps the dumbest chapter in the history of NIL has finally closed. Jaden Roshada, who committed to Miami, signed to Florida, left Florida, went to Arizona State, sued Florida, went to Georgia, went to Sacramento State, and now at Mississippi State. He has settled his lawsuit with former Gators coach Billy Napier and with donor Hugh Hathcock and with their former NILA.

guy, Marcus Castro Walker, and it's over. The $13.85 million contract that Jaden Roshada signed, some money probably changed hands. We don't know how much. I don't think it was anything close to that amount, but some money has changed hands. Do you think he made a million? I don't know. I really have, I struggle with guessing at this because I don't have any inside information. none of the parties will admit to what was paid. And I really don't know where they would have landed on this. Again, it was all so dumb. It was so dumb.

It was a four-year $13.85 million contract. I know this because I'm the one who published the contract. And I remember when I got it, just reading it going, How in the world did anyone with any access to that kind of money read this and think that was going to work? Yeah, it's a pretty wild experience. And I remember Andy, and you can tell a story or two if you want about you guys reporting that while we were at the Athletic. But that was one of the most influential stories that you wrote there because it was like the beginning of a new time. It wasn't necessarily just about Jaden Rashada.

It was about what programs and collectives and people involved in NIL were willing and ready to potentially offer unproven assets in the high school ranks. And in the years since this has happened, what's it been three years now, over three years? So, you know, we are pretty far advanced now, although still in the infancy of the NIL era, but advanced from the first. And it kind of reminds me like a beta test when you download a beta or a new software and it doesn't work or, you know, you buy something that. just got released in the 80 year to bring out the kinks. Like, I think that this is one of those deals. And like, I wonder because Nico I amaliava had a deal that wasn't, if I recall, worth as much over the term, but it was a part of that phase where it's like, are we now

no longer going to engage in insanely high, multi-year deals for high school quarterbacks? And at least Nico Imaliaba is a starting power conference quarterback. Like, he was the starting quarterback on a playoff team. And then he's obviously been the starter at UCLA for the past year. Jaden Roshada didn't even win the starting job at Sacramento State last year. Yeah. Well, and this is the thing that has really kind of been confusing to me about the Jaden Roshada saga. And I believe, you know, like Malachi Nelson was also in that same class or the year after.

But like, if you are going to offer somebody that much freaking money, which is a ton of money, I know that evaluations aren't perfect. I know that some players hit and some don't. But to land on a offer that large for a player that couldn't start at SACC state is such a miscarriage of authority and such a misfire on evaluations. And that's the thing that it should have been the biggest red flag on Billy Napier from the get-go. that should have been like and the thing is it wasn't all billy napier like a lot of this i think was the people who were running the collective the the donor who promised the money they wanted to get him away from miami they wanted to beat miami and he was committed to

miami i think miami was perfectly happy to let him walk i think they were laughing at florida If I recall correctly, because I interviewed Jaden Roshada at the Elite 11, like, wow, the group happening or shortly before it happened. It was before it happened because I think you guys included some of those quotes in the... Yeah, it was in the story. Yeah. But he wanted to go to Miami, too, from what I remember. Like, he, like, that's where his heart was.

And the offer at Florida was so big that, like, his family was like, you have to go to Florida. And it is so insane to me because there are two questions. to move the conversation along, Andy. One is if you knew or there was a generational-type quarterback prospect out there, and I don't know if we can even be certain of this anymore, but if a Cam Newton-type player comes out of nowhere. Newton who didn't start his first years of college? That's right.

But I feel like you'd have to have alien-like traits to even be considered for it. So that's why I landed on Newton. Yeah, I'm trying to think of the last, like, Trevor Lawrence, coming out of high school. Trevor Lawrence is probably the last thing I can remember like this. Yeah. Would Trevor Lawrence coming out of high school?

Like let's say Trevor Lawrence was in the 2026 class. And you knew you were going to get Trevor Lawrence. I actually think that the deal that Rashad assigned might actually be within today's money like a worthy contract. But is that ever going to be? I don't think Jared Curtis. This is a good example. I don't think Jared Curtis's annualized.

deal. So Jared Curtis is the number one quarterback recruiting class 26. He flipped from Georgia to Vanderbilt. He's going to play at Vanderbilt. He's probably going to be the Vanderbilt starter as a freshman. I don't think he's making as much per year as this contract promised to pay. Now, the market is obviously corrected because of how much people are commanding for proven assets later in the portal. Like it's a misguided venture to pay a freshman quarterback who has never played it down $5 million annually, when you can get, from what I understand, the market for an elite level proven asset

at the quarterback position in this past portal cycle is between $4 and $6 million, right? Right. So you're already almost on that. These are good, like, they have been good at the power conference level. So that in itself is going to be the thing that brings down the high school market. But the other thing that I wanted to take into account here,

which is something that you alluded to earlier with Florida, Andy, you have to put yourself back in 2021 brain. In 2021, everybody's still obsessed over high school rankings. In 2021, the blue chip ratio was important. I'm off the year. This is 2022 going into 2023. Even so. Yeah.

Back at that time when he was in high school. I also think that there was a sense of, and I think Tennessee to a certain extent, kind of fell victim to this. I think A&M before NIO was even a thing with their 2021 class that was off the charts felt victim to this, where there was a sense of gain or a sense of pride in signing the number one player out of position or the number one class out of high school because that helped you from a perception standpoint grow. And I don't think that that exists anymore either. Like you might be paying.

You're not just paying for the player. You're paying for the aura that comes with it too. Well, and it's Megaboard Wednesday, and we're going to have a discussion later about Tennessee. and its quarterback situation. And I think we're going to get into some of a similar conversation. But I want you to think about this contract. How many sets of eyes would this contract have to go through now? Think about the contracts we've talked about this offseason,

like the DeMond Williams contract at Washington, where he decides he's going to go in the portal and everybody looks at the contract. He's like, you sure you want to do that? Yeah. Like this, that contract was written by the big 10, like by the conference. There was nobody in charge of any of this stuff. And this was only four years ago.

This was less than four years ago. This was like three and a half years ago. No one was in charge of anything. And, you know, I remember calling Florida's athletic director, Scott Strickland, when we were going to write the story about all this stuff. And you realize at that point how little the school has. had to do with any of it. Now, the coaching staff did, and then they had an NIL guy who was actually party to the lawsuit. He was one of the defendants, but you weren't allowed to go to the school

with it. Now, I think schools looked at these things, but according to the NCAA rules, you weren't supposed to go to the school with it and like have it approved or anything. So, because this is the sort of thing, I would think if it came across a grown-ups desk, like an athletic director's desk, they look at it and go, what? We're doing what? Andy, I have a friend who has a business that's not in media. And this friend called me yesterday to ask me what I thought an appearance of a semi-famous NFL player would be like at his business.

And I threw out a number, but I was kind of guessing, right? based on some of the things that people have asked for in the past for appearances on shows that we've done. But I feel like when you pay a player for his name, image, and likeness, who's in the pros to come make an appearance at your business, that's kind of whatever they're willing to do. And I don't know if there's like a market for that, right? There is a market for it. We just don't know it because we don't routinely hire people for it. But I also think that that was what was happening with quarterbacks to a certain extent.

It's like, well, there's a new market. It's never happened before. We don't have any past contracts to sit through. We're just going to throw numbers out there, what we're willing to pay. And I think that a large part of what Tennessee did with Nico and certainly a large part of what Florida did with Jaden Rashada was buying a player that was going to make the public not only excited to watch, but make the public maybe view their program differently. They were buying a recruiting win as much as they were buying a player. Does that make sense? Yes, 100%.

I believe that. And it was especially in the Rashada case because they, it was a recruiting quote unquote win against Miami, even though Miami's coaching staff was probably laughing at them. Because they probably evaled this guy and like, uh-oh, we don't need to have this guy committed anyway. Yeah. And I mean, Miami was also offering him, right? And they were offering you money and all that. It wasn't nearly as much money as Florida offered.

But they probably realized that was a mistake. Well, the other question that I also have, and I don't know if this is fair because I don't know Jaden Roshada personally. I've interviewed him in person a few times and we don't have a relationship. But how much of this shit show during his recruitment actually impeded in his ability to be successful in college? It may have. I mean, like Kenny Dillingham was very complimentary of Jaden Rishish. and the one year that Rashada played at Arizona State.

Yeah. And liked them a lot. And so it may have had a lot to do with it. I mean, and I try to think to myself too, like, because we lose sight of these people because they're quasi-famous and they're getting offered a bunch of money. But like, I try to think back at myself in my senior year of high school, the things that used to stress me out or the things that used to feel bigger than they actually were. You know, adolescence has a way of, you know, making small issues feel large.

I cannot imagine. And again, me and my high school experience and Jaden Rashada's high school experience couldn't be more different. I'm trying to imagine the stress and the feeling of a kid who has not gotten out of high school dealing with a public dispute about finances that much that may or may not have even been an issue. Well, how about this part of it, Ari? You are 18 years old.

You just turned 18. someone has offered you a contract that's going to pay you more than $3 million a year. They have sent you the contract with the line that says sign here. They have countersigned it. They have sent you back a fully executed agreement. And you think you've set your family up forever. And within a few days, because there was a first payment that got missed. and that's when everything started to unravel.

But within a few weeks of signing this contract, it's like, oh, just kidding, we were just kidding. We're not really going to do that. Yeah. We're going to give you nothing. Lord knows what purchases were made in that three-week period, too, which could also cause a secondary kind of threat. Okay, we talked about it the other day.

They announced it. I just signed a contract. Like, I signed the contract on Monday morning. It starts the first of next month. And he's, just been spending like a madman everyone. I know it's coming because at least like I've been being paid by this company for three years already. But imagine if somebody's like, nope, just kidding.

If somebody gave me that much money at that age, I can't even imagine what I would have done. I would have been, I would have been just, I would have lost it completely. If I thought I had set my family up for life and then the rug got pulled out from under me, several weeks later. Like, I do not know how I would react to that now as a 40-something year old. As an 18-year-old, I would have been completely lost. And now you understand the magic of slot machines. But like the thing, too, though, is when you are in high school, even when you were a high school prospect in 2000 or 2005, like getting recruited was the first major hurdle and taking an offer and going to a school was a

first major hurdle, but your work had really just started because you hadn't reached the financial pinnacle of what your talent could reach. But if you're a high school kid who feels like the emotions that you just described and then you get it pulled from you, imagine what it would be like to try to recalibrate your brain to go into college and approach things the right way and not be distracted by all the things that are going off the field in like the crucial summer that it is between your your senior year of high school and your freshman year of college, like all the things that an athlete might have done 10 years ago that maybe he wasn't able to do because he was distracted by this.

Like I actually, and like the thing that I understand and you reported on it, you're closer to it, is that I feel like a lot of the things and the levers that were pulled during this process weren't even his decision. They weren't. And that's, like I feel for the guy. And I, you know, I'm glad he got some money out of it. I am glad. He should have not had to deal with this in the first place because nobody should have ever

offered him that contract in the first place. But his career's not over. He did go from SAC State to Mississippi State. But the fact that he didn't start at Sacramento State, probably a sign that he's not going to wind up playing much at Mississippi State either. Yeah. But he's still a college football player at an SEC school. So, I mean, it wasn't a complete dumpster fire.

But he's on his fourth school in four years. So, you know, it's not the way he dreamed. It's not what he envisioned. but this is it just also shows you how much this all has evolved in a very short time. And this was less than four years ago. It should also be a reminder of how different things are going to look four years from now. Yeah, yeah. This was less than four years ago and feels like prehistoric times.

It feels like the case in days. Yeah. And, you know, every single day that goes by where contracts are exchanged and disputes are had and you learn from those things and the system becomes more refined. And like that was the most tumultuous time of this. And I feel like even though numbers are kind of crazy and, you know, the transfer portal is off the rails and all the things that we talk to, I do feel like the system is starting to move more functionally of here's the market for a player. Here's what that person is going to get paid and here's how the contracts are written. You know, like we have Demand Williams and we've had, you know, some more disputes.

Derry Mensa, what happened with Dary and Mensa made sense. Even though there are really still no rules, the market is, has begun to. dictate how to regulate itself a little bit. So, but that is a reminder of how quickly this has changed in just a few years. Like that's, I had not thought about the J.D. Rashada thing a long time. That news popped yesterday. And I thought, oh, my God, we have to look back on this because it's crazy that this happened in, this is late 2022 when all this happened. It's not very long ago. Kind of crazy to think that if Florida would have allocated the money that it did agree, although that money was never paid,

but if they would have allocated that money in NIL and transfer portal over the course of the four-year period that Jaden Roshada was supposed to be in college, they could have had a better team, which just goes to show you. Billy Napier might still be employed by Florida. But I think the fact that he was all in on signing him and willing to, you know, again, he didn't approve the contract necessarily because it's not, it wasn't how things worked back then. But the fact that he's like, that's our guy, do whatever it takes to get him. Giant red flag. And the funniest thing about it is through this whole time, like DJ Lagway was committed and then ultimately signed. So that was a five-star player from Texas, which means that, you know, they had to have ironed that out and, you know, figured it out.

And I'm sure DJ Lagway made quite a lot of money in Gainesville for the past year. He did. You know, you live and you learn, but there's a new staff there now for a reason. That's exactly right. Exactly right. Ari, you made the news a little bit yesterday. We don't have a megaboard thread on this one because this all took place on X. You know, we used to call it Twitter. X is the everything app. So our boss, Sanitary, made a list of some of the most influential college sports people on the platform X. And what it was meant to highlight is how. powerful the on three brand has become. Obviously, our on three X account, the official on three X account does, I believe billions of

impressions or, or hundreds, yeah, no, billions. You and I are in the hundred millions individually. Yeah. And, you know, we have Joe Tipton and Hayes Fawcett who do massive, massive numbers. And so it's meant to show that. Shannon, who has since put out a new tweet, kind of cherry-picked it a little bit at first. And I don't think realized how much he was cherry-picking it.

And then certain people who probably should have been on the list who got left off saw the list and got a little upset. Now, you were on the initial list. You and J.D. Pekyll were on the initial list. And, well, our friend Brandon Walker from Barstool, he was on his show mostly sports and his co-host mark titus was having a lot of fun with him not being on this list but it's something brandon said during that process that i think will endure for a long time on this show roll that clip what is this what am i looking at top 20 college sports influencers of 20 25 on x according to

get social prof this just isn't this doesn't look no it's not accurate at all this doesn't look. This just didn't look into certain people's impressions because this is, this is, this is, this is, okay, so this is, Brooks Austin, J.D. Pickle, he's just, he's a blonde doing a Josh Pate impression. Taylor LeWan, Matt Zinitz, Ross Delinger. You got to think McAfee should have been in there. Hmm. Wait, wait, this isn't right. I, I have more, I'm more impressions than half these people. We got to get your numbers, and we got to go to war. We got to go to war.

We got to go to war. Damn. What's James going to have to say about this? That's where my mind goes. Poor, poor James. The hell is Joe Tipton? James stuck his neck out for you. He's the college basketball guy that was doing the graphics about the guy reaching out to

colleges that wasn't actually reaching. He does all the graphics for every recruit, seemingly. For college basketball. For college basketball. It's a college basketball guy in the college football. All right. Five star has his top six. All right, Wasserman, my white ass.

Joe Tipton puts the, puts the graphic. How do you check? What was this based on? How many motherfucking? Tate should have been on this list, according to Tate. Tate? Yes. That's pretty good.

That's a good number. That's just him following Mincey around. He went. What, Connor? Do a college football game. Ari Wasserman, my white. That is your name from now on. Get the T-shirt press going.

I will now refer to you as Ari Wasserman, my white ass whenever I refer to you. I will give Brandon credit. He is an incredibly funny person. And you know him a little bit better than I do. I have had an interaction with him online, but you've actually interacted with him in person. I love Brandon.

He's one of my favorites. That's not an act. He's just a really funny thing. No, that's how he is. That's perfect. Like, he's from Mississippi. me his or she. Ari Wasserman, Ari Waserman my white ass. And when I saw the clip, I watched it last night and he got to me like I laughed out loud. Like that was funny. So anyway, I had fun with it.

A lot of my friends have been saying Ari Wasterman, my white ass for the last 24 hours. So I appreciate that. And like it turns out that he was right because I got clipped from the most recently. Yeah, Shannon did a new list today. And apparently I was just below the cut line on the all list. We're nowhere near it on this list. I think the Biggog showed up. You have to realize, though, how powerful the avalanches are when they happen. And they happen to me quite a bit, you know, when an entire fan base hates you for a week, how many impressions, like, actually rank, like ramp up.

And Barstool does a lot of really good stuff on social. And I think that, you know, RG3 pointed this out on Twitter this morning. I don't know if you saw it, Andy. I did. On three has done a really good job of emulating that culture. It's not accidental. Like Barstool is really good at creating its stuff and then kind of making its own gravy with it. Like they make more stuff out of that stuff.

And all their people interact and it creates more engagement. And we've intentionally tried to copy that on three. Yeah. Because it works. Well, and the other thing, too, as I'm sure is the case that Barstool is, I feel like I'm genuinely friends with the people we work with. So, like, these are people that I would be interacting with organically. So I want to interact with J.D.

I want to interact with bitch Nacos. I want to interact with you. Everybody's getting a nickname. We got bitchnacos. We got R. R.R.R. Watson of my white ass. Are we calling J.D. the blonde Josh Pade impersonator? Is that?

Because that was pretty funny. Yeah, that was funny. But also, like, if he wants to go to war, like, that's what I, are real war? But it's funny, the guy who said that Liam Bluntman, we also came to find out later. Liam's ahead of Brandon in Impressions and actually ahead of almost everybody. Like Liam, Liam was killing it in Impressions last college football season. So. Yeah.

And I feel like if you started tweeting compulsively, like I do at times with your follower list, you could get to the top. Like, I'm still trying to build my followers. Yeah, I have purposely avoided it. Like my wife threatened to divorce me essentially. over me getting into fights with random people on Twitter. So I've tried to dial that back. Now that I realize it's a function of my employment, I can make, honey, this is going to affect my paycheck.

So I am going to. Well, I did. Here's what I did. I did. You do your arguing mostly during the day. And then I have a no phone or a phone rarely policy between the hours of five and seven during the times of which my daughter comes home from school. And we put her down.

And I look at it periodically to make sure that news isn't breaking or that we need to go live or something. But for the most part, I try my best to be as present with my family when their home is possible. But you still got to do it. Like, for instance, and this is probably a good segue to the next topic here. Oh, yeah. Alabama. I was steering us that way. Don't worry.

You know, when you are on an avalanche, like Alabama fans, for whatever reason feel personally victimized by me this week. And you get a lot of people. Well, that's because you've called them soft because Alabama might, well, we don't even know. Paul Feinbaum says Alabama might bail on the series with Ohio State, but they haven't bailed yet. But when you make comments like that, like for instance, like last year when Nebraska, by the way, the premise of the article was the exact same about Nebraska a year ago. You know, people share your things and they come after you.

So I guess there's a silver lining. It's like every single time I'm in a flood of negativity, like that's also ramping up my numbers for next year. So I do want to grow my follower base and maybe doing so needs to be less off, like I authentically like controversial or that's not even the right word. I don't think you're being that controversial. But I do think you're about to piss off a new fan base. So let's do it.

Let's get to it. I'm very combative though. You are. And the thing that bothers me more than anything is, is like when people call me like a crazy, what are they called rage bait or farming. These are my actual opinions? Like, are my opinions that insane that, like, people would accuse me of that? Like, I don't think I'm that insane. But let's get to the next thing.

I just think you have one of those faces. Yeah. All right, Wasserman, my white ass. You have one of those asses, too. I have a flat ass, unfortunately. You go straight from back to leg. It's called a flat back. It's called a noacetal.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a disease. I think I have it. It's tall. Yeah. Ari, let's have you piss off another fan base now. Because I have you're going to do it. Texas is soft. We're going to the inside Texas message board report.

This is from Joe Cook, our guy inside Texas. Report. Texas asks out of future series with Arizona State. So Chris Cartman, who covers Arizona State. for CBS reports yesterday that Texas is trying to get out of a series in the 2030s with Arizona State. This, of course, hits the Texas message boards. The first reply, Ari, because I know you're mad about this, and I know you're going to call Texas Soft for bailing on Arizona State. Texas is soft. This is the part I'm more worried about just for people in general, because I don't

think consumers should ever advocate for a crappier product, yet certain college football fan bases like Nebraska last year, like Alabama right now, like Texas here, seemed to be perfectly fine with someone shoveling more crap their way instead of the good thing they were going to get. So the first response on this thread about Texas potentially bailing on Arizona State in the 2030s. Notre Dame next. Please and thank you. That's Turnbow 828.

So Turnbow 828, a Texas fan, would prefer that Texas play a crap game instead of playing Notre Dame. Instead of Notre Dame coming to Austin and Texas going to South Bend. They would rather see Texas play, I don't know, Sam Houston State. That is the stupidest thing ever.

That is the stupidest way, think ever. Please give me a crappier product. You were going to give me something cool, but please don't do that. It's disgusting. Like, I want them to make Goodwill hunting too, but I don't want Matt Damon in it. I don't want Ben Affleck. I get it that your favorite conference commissioner has told you that this is how the playoff gets chosen and this will make it easier for your team. Don't buy it. Don't fall for it. Don't be stupid. Don't be a sheep.

It is a lie. And I think that people only have the capacity to look back at what just happened and think that's the only thing that ever has happened. Alabama fans arguing for

a weaker schedule when they have been perhaps the greatest beneficiary of a hard schedule for more than a decade blows my mind. Texas last year, let's call it what it is. It was unfortunate. They had a very good resume, and if they would have played a crappier team outside of Ohio State and week one, they likely would have gotten in the playoff. It's a fact.

I know that. You know that. But Texas, two years ago, didn't have a big time game, and they got a crappy draw in the SEC. They still made the playoff, but they were the beneficiary of their not being other teams with a resume that was better or they could have been left out. I also think that in the context of this conversation, that the only thing that is focused on, which is, by the way, Andy, the softest of soft of this part, what happens if we lose. Why is all of the Texas fan base that believes this not considering what it does for you when you win?

I don't know. Texas should consider what it does for them when they win. Remember when they beat Alabama in 2023? And we are only... We're only a year removed. That was a non-conference game. then, by the way, they were in the Big 12. Also, maybe one of the most iconic nights of Steve Sarkeesan's entire tenure there.

We shouldn't have played that. Like what, our best memories. Well, let's not play that. But I want to, Texas fans, Alabama fans, Nebraska fans last year, Indiana fans, because we always, we always bash your non-conference scheduling, too, because it sucks. Texas Tech fans, your non-conference scheduling sucks. Indiana, your non-conference schedule sucks. People think that we're defending Indiana.

we're not. It sucks. I would love to see Indiana now play. Schedule better. You know who else does it? Your fans deserve it. Penn State's non-conference schedule is intentionally shitty. That sucks. Like everybody who does it, the opinion is the same. It sucks. You suck. You suck. You're soft. All of you. And I do hope. And I do, like, I don't know. Like, I'm not a vindictive person. But I do hope. And I'm not going to even isolate a single team. I'm just going to isolate a program. that schedules softer intentionally. I hope you go 10 and 2 and get left out. From the bottom of my soul, I hope that happens to you.

And when it does, and you have your six-month meltdown, as a result of it, don't, don't, don't, people will forget what they're arguing for today. Notre Dame wishes they played one more top 10 team last year. And I know that they don't play in a conference and don't have the same limitations that others do. And I know that the SEC has to play nine conference games and maybe a 10th power four opponent. But it all maps out the same.

Losses matter. At least Texas is still playing Ohio State this year. So before we bash Texas too much, they are playing Ohio State this year. They played Ohio State last year. Thank you for not bailing on that one. And try to imagine for a split second if Texas beats Ohio State at home, which I think is a distinct possibility, maybe if not the favorite. what that does for the program, what that does for the team, what that does for Arch Manning, what that does for their positioning in the playoff in the coming year, the mulligan that they will now have in SEC play.

And I think that the thing that most people lose track of is that even against crappy schedules, teams slip. Teams lose to teams that they shouldn't lose to all the time. And when you play a tough non-conference game and you win that non-conference game, dare to dream guys. Dare to dream that Alabama could beat Ohio State or the Texas could beat Ohio State or even Arizona State in 2030. Hat tipped to Kenny Dillingham, by the way. Your program is a scary program now. So scary that they're canceling it years out. Now here's another.

Years away. Yeah. And by the way, making wholesale plans about what you plan to do six years from now is crazy as well. Cancel it in three years. You don't know how this stuff's going to play out. We are one year removed from a 10 and 2 SEC team not making it. And that SEC team also played a Power 5 non-conference schedule or opponent on their schedule. And like that team just wasn't very good in Virginia Tech.

But if that was a top of Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt was amazing. Yeah. They would have made it. So there are a lot of ways to miss the playoff. You know what the best way to make the playoff is? Beat good teams. You can come up with a million ways on how to miss it.

Why did Miami make the playoff this year, Ari? I think because they had a non-conference win that, held the test of time despite the fact that it was in week one. Huh. Wow, right? Crazy. But here's the one thing that... If your team is bailing on good games, it's soft.

If you are advocating for your team bailing on good games, you're a sucker. You're the consumer. And you're scared. No, you're a sucker. You're not even being scared. You are a sucker. You're a moron. Like, you are arguing for a consumer.

for a crappier product for you, the end consumer. I got an Alabama fan who was arguing with you come at me. Like, it's just you media members want these games. I'm like, no, no. I didn't pay to say it either way. There's always a conspiracy. You are a sucker if you are saying, I want worse games. We think about how stupid that is.

Think about how walking into a Ruth's Chris and saying, I would like a worse steak, please, and charge me the same. Yeah, give me the Applebee surloin, but charge me the same. Yeah, Applebee's caught astray there. Just step back, if you're about to yell at Ari on Twitter, step back and remember how stupid you sound. But that- To yourself out loud and you'll see how stupid you sound. Yeah.

I think being stupid, the hardest part about it is that when you are, you don't realize how inconvenient it is for the people that you're dealing with. I don't know. Again, go ahead. Schedule soft, have a worse product, slip up against Mississippi State like you almost did last year and miss the playoff. Go ahead. And by the way, the entire point of being a fan

and watching this show and caring what we say and what we think is because you want your program to be excellent and viewed in a high regard nationally. And the best way to do that is by beating other really good teams. Think about the memories that you create as a fan. Think about that non-conference game against Alabama on the road. I was there. Quinn Ewers has passed just piercing. I think it was the worthy, right? That long, beautiful pass that he had that pierced through the Tuscaloosa air for a touchdown.

It was like a 50-yard touchdown pass. One of the most beautiful passes I've ever seen. Erase that from the record books in your memory. Willingly do that. Go ahead. Go ahead. And we'll just, we'll just write about you. And by the way, you played Sam Houston State last year and it freaking sucked. And it was a terrible game for you. And I think that part of the reason why your perception in the rankings was what it was is because you had a dog shit game against the team that you didn't belong on the same field with. So, you know, there are negatives to playing bad teams too because when you play bad teams or lower level teams and you play poorly against them, you're still benefit. You don't realize that has an impact on you. Just be good.

That's the t-shirt after we make the Ari Wasserman of my white-ass t-shirts, but just be good. Just be good. Don't worry about what if we might lose. Think about what if you win. Go schedule the best, the best product you can and go win. It's the entire point of competition in sports. That's literally it. So anyway, we're going to get yelled at by these guys.

And don't worry, Texas fans. We'll be on to somebody else next week because somebody else is going to bail on somebody next week. It's an SEC talking point that has poisoned the world. And they're like, well, why don't you just learn from India? But it's not an SEC. Like, again, it was Nebraska fans. last year. It is an SEC talking point that has poisoned the world.

This talking point began in the SEC because of Indiana's schedule last year. This is where it began. That's the genesis of the... The Nebraska thing, they backed out on Tennessee. I know. This became a mainstream talking point when Greg Sankey said it in... What's the town

where SEC media? Destin. This is when it started. Like, as a mainstream talking point, I'm not saying nobody else did it. Again, like I said, and this is... This applies to whether your commissioner wants a 2014 playoff or whether your commissioner wants you to schedule crappier games.

Don't buy it. Just because your commissioner said it doesn't make it right. Don't buy it. But the conspiracy theories are more fun, but we probably just hate your favorite team. It's true. It's true. Ari Wasserman of my white ass.

Oh, by the way. Really, when you yell at Ari, please start with Ari Wasserman, my white ass. Ari Wasserman, my white ass. And Texas fans, before you come at me on Twitter, although I kind of want you to now to get my impressions up. I did make an appearance on Inside Texas,

and we talked for 25 minutes about my outlook on Arch Manning in their upcoming season. So before you accuse me of hating your team, watch that. You just love your quarterback. I do. You know, I've been kind of a Texas homer for a while. It was on our show three years ago where I picked him to make the playoff for the first time, and everyone thought I was insane, and they made it.

You were right. That was right. Why did they make the playoff in part? Who do they beat? They want a tough non-conference game? What was the game? Oh, was that the Bamma game? Alabama.

Yeah. Yeah. Tough non-conference wins. Do a lot for you. Okay. On to the next. Our entire talking point this past year was how many big wins they got. Okay.

All right. We go to the Wolverine. Colonel Kilgore says, just saw a judge granted a hearing to find out additional info about the more investigation. So Sharon Moore was in court yesterday. And he scored a legal win yesterday. So the judge is granting an evidentiary hearing. Basically, they were going to look into whether his arrest warrant was valid. The judge was not pleased that it was not pointed out on the request for the warrant that he was the supervisor at work of the person involved. And that

might be the reason he sent a bunch of text messages. Now, we've not seen the text messages, so I think we'd probably be able to figure out pretty quickly by reading them, whether they were germane to work or not. But I'd like to learn more about this, because I think everybody ran with the arrest story, everybody ran with what's on the police report. And I think we would probably all benefit from having the full story. And then we can make our decisions about whatever happened. Michigan has made their decision. So obviously there was some sort of misconduct to some degree.

Right. And then I'm not arguing about the firing or anything else, but this became a tabloid story. This became a complete side show. And this could be the difference between whether this man ever works again in his chosen field. Now, if it was exactly the way it was portrayed, he probably will never work again.

But it's important to point out that he is pleading not guilty. So whatever his defense is or what we discover during this process, I think we owe the man. Well, and that's how the justice system works. And it's tough. Like, in our jobs, you get information. It's on a police report. like, here's the police report.

And that's kind of what everybody runs with. And it's interesting because a lot of times, like, I remember, you know, being a beat writer, if you got a police report, you call, like, your responsibilities to call the accused and give them a chance. And usually they don't want to talk because usually it happened exactly the way it happened on the police report. But sometimes it didn't. And so it isn't, it is critical to at least give the other person.

a chance to tell their side of the story. So I am curious to see what we find out. Because if you're Sharon Moore at this point, you are probably fighting for whatever is left of your career. Yeah. Because if it all went down the way it was portrayed on the police report, your career is probably over, at least as a major coach of any kind in the NFL or college. Yes, but we will track it and we will give you updates.

as we see fit. So, you know, he's not at Michigan anymore. There's a, there's a new regime there. And I'm going to turn the page on this. But if we find or it becomes clear that some of the details were misrepresented or exaggerated or, or just wrong, we owe that to him to at least make you aware of that. And it very may well be true. If any of us were ever accused of anything, we want the same thing. So we would want a chance to tell our side. So again, I don't know if we're going to find out anything different, but I think this will give us a chance to learn a little bit more about that. One more on the megaboard, Ari. This is from the ValQuest board. And that's, Ball Quest is our Tennessee site. It is

one of the best team sites anywhere. Big Easy Ball says this. The insanity has to stop somewhere, and this is not going to go the direction that you might think it's going to go. This is about Joey Aguilar, the Tennessee quarterback who's fighting for another year of eligibility. He says, I'm for Joey not getting a favorable

ruling. Heck, seven to eight years playing a college sport. Just not what it should be. Let's roll with GMAC. That's George McIntyre and Phazon. Faison brand. And these are the two quarterbacks, the Tennessee he signed the past two cycles and let the chips fall where they may. And it's interesting because if you go through this thread, it is a pretty even argument. There are people who side with Joey Aguilar who say the junior college years shouldn't count at all, which, by the way,

if junior college years don't count, there's a lot of people suing. And there's multiple Tennessee fans who say, don't give them the other year. Let's see what happens. with these guys we've signed. If Chucco years don't start, then there should never be another person redshirting at a power level ever again. Yeah, you just go to Juko for two years and then you start your NCAA clock if that was the case.

Yeah, because then you get seven years to potentially play college. Yeah, seven to play six. Pretty good deal. So I find it interesting, though, because this is the argument we've had a few times on this show because I said, you know, why are you going to sign high-profile and Brandon is a big-time recruit? George McIntyre was a big-time recruit.

Like, why are you going to sign these guys if all you're going to do is just put the old, you know, try to recycle the old quarterback? I also think that part of college sports, Andy, has always been turning the page. Like, we have been programmed for the most elite players to get a year or two out of them and then you turn the page to the next person. Like, as much as we want, continuity in the rosters from year to year based on, you know, the transfer portal and how

out of whack it can get, I do think that they still want there to be a relatively short overall clock individual players can remain on your team because that's the fabric of it. Three years, you get familiar with a guy, you fall in love with a recruit, that recruit comes in, they get a few years, they move on and it's a never-ending, you know, more of people coming in going. Like I just, you know, Joey Aguilar, I think, had a good year. I think Tennessee was much better than we thought they were going to be in March, obviously, and I think he should be congratulated, and he was certainly compensated for that.

But if I'm a Tennessee fan, I'm probably ready to turn the page on a homegrown player that has been in the program for multiple years that may offer something that he can't offer. So, you know, that's it. And one of those players is a five-star freak of nature. So, like, I understand, like, the sentiment. On the other hand, you want the system to do right by Joey Aguilar, in this specific instance, Andy, I just don't think he was wronged it anyway. Yeah, that's my thing, too, is you had your time.

And everybody else who's played Juko, the years you were in Juko counted. The only time it didn't count was Diego Pavia sued for 2020 to not count. Well, 2020 didn't count for anybody in the NCAA either. All he was asking is for equal treatment there. This is different. Did they play Juko that year? I don't know if anybody, some people cancel, like where Joey Aguilar was, they canceled the season. Yeah.

So it depends on the place, I think, but I think most of them canceled. Interestingly enough, are Chris Lowe and on three reported last night that Joey Aguilar is planning on going to the NFL combine as this is up in the air. The judge, remember, they had the hearing on Friday. The judge could rule any day now on this thing. And so I think Joey Agar probably had to decide whether he's going to do the conference. combine or not. And so just in case the ruling doesn't go his way, he's planning on going to combine. When's the combine again? Next week. Next week. Yeah. You might have a decision before then, but you know, you accept the invitation and then if you... Well, that's the thing. I'm wondering if you

have to accept the invitation by a certain date or they give it to somebody, the spot to somebody else. It means nothing by declining the invitation. It makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see what happens. but I would assume if the judge rules in his favor that maybe he just doesn't have to go to the combine at that point. But if the judge does not rule in his favor, then he needs to be at the combine. So he can take Trinidad Chamblis's reps at the combine. Yeah.

I don't know, do people view this as a player that's going to be in the NFL? Like, I don't know, but you go out and you work out. I don't think he's being viewed as a very big time NFL prospect. Although I will say, but the way he played last year, I could see him making roster. he was good in that offense last year. And he did really well with a deep ball for sure. So, and you never know.

I can't evaluate who's going to be good in the league anymore than anyone else can at that position anyway. Yeah. New Miles Garrett was going to be good. I think there are certain players that you can evaluate easier. Quarterback is a labyrinth that's like watching Shutter Island. I don't know who's going to. It's hard. It's so hard.

Okay. Okay, one more thing. So it is Mega Board Wednesday. We do not have a UCLA site at On 3 right now. But we will have one as of March 1st. And I can't wait. Because I can't wait to read some of the threads because there's always something going on with Mick Cronin.

Mick Cronin's the UCLA men's basketball coach. He's always saying something crazy or doing something wild. Last night, at Michigan State, he ejected his own player. He had a player called for a flagrant foul. And the officials didn't eject him. Mick Cronin's like, no, you're going to the locker room. I don't think I've, I'm sure it's happened, but I don't think I've ever seen it before.

Is that good coaching? You know, you have standards that you, you know, You have to uphold. Oh, yeah, I don't have a problem with it. I just thought it was funny. And it was, it was interesting because it's Stephen Jamerson, who, interestingly enough, was a student at Michigan State before he went to UCLA. It was a 610 student at Michigan State.

Tom Isso had this quote the other day about if I don't know, he was, if I had seen a 610 guy in our facility, I think I would have let him walk on. But yeah, it's, it's such a strange, such a strange situation. And then he got into it. Yeah. Look, Cronin's reason for ejecting him perfectly, perfectly valid. Like, he's like, if you want to be a tough guy, do it fouling hard in the context of the game,

not fouling too hard on a breakaway layup where it looks like you're just trying to hurt somebody. Yeah. And it's a legitimate reason to throw him out. And somehow, the perfect segue to end the show, Andy, is we went from my white ass. to a rat's ass What was your thought to the student section

Channing Booker's name? I could give a rat's ass about the other team's student section. I just bet the overall the way that you turn. I would like to give you a kudos for the worst question I've never been asked.

Did you like you should take it? Do you really think I care about the other two of students section? No, I don't think you care about the other students. Are you raising your voice at me? No, I'm just. Yeah, you are. Yeah you are. Come on, dude.

No reason. Come on. But yes, you are. Everybody's standing here listening to you. Everybody, this is on camera. They can hear you. I answered the question. I could give a rat's ass about the other team's student section.

I coach UCLA. I don't care about Michigan State students. I mean, who cares? And who knows for the worst question I've ever been asked? Yeah, I want, when our UCLA site pops on March 1st, I want all the message board threads on whatever Mick Cronin says. Again, he says something like this once every two weeks. Andy, that interaction happens in my house.

And it scared me because everyone's laughing. But Britt, and I don't know how your wife, my wife is diabolical in arguments. She will say something irrational or calmly under her voice because the one thing that is scary about my wife is that she does not ever. yell or scream when she fights, she's surgical, calm, and tight-lipped and quiet and cold, which is hard because I'm a, let's get this gloves on, let's fight. We've seen you on Twitter. We've seen your white ass on Twitter. I like, I like if there's a conflict resolving the conflict with conflict and then moving on.

I'm not a internalize the conflict, stew for it for 24 hours, come back to it. I want it squashed then. And so we fight differently. But she'll say something out of line or under her breath or sarcastic or whatever. And then I will emphatically respond. And then the argument becomes, why are you raising your voice? And now we're not on point anymore. So that, like raising the voice isn't like yelling.

You guarantee to be wrong. No matter what she says, how offensive what she said was. The fact that you raise your voice is now the problem. I, ooh, that is, that is beautiful. Because I go, what do you talk? That's how I'll say. Like, what do you? Like, you know how I emote when we're arguing.

Like, what do we? And it's not a yell. I never yell, call her names, disrespecter, anything like that. But I do get passionate. What, why would you? What do you? And then I'm raising my voice. And then we are no longer on the point, which is why would you say what you said?

And then I lose every time. And then I say, sorry for emoting. That, that happens. You know, you know what? That is. That's just. better scheme. Because I don't know who the reporter is, but I'm on the reporter's team here.

You insulted me. I'm reacting to the insult. Why are you worrying about how I reacted? Why aren't we worrying about the insult? Because the question wasn't, what do you think of the student section? I'm sure the question was about what did this message that the student section was sharing impact your team. I understand where the reporter was probably coming from. And he hit, Cronin hit that guy with Brits playbook so perfect.

I like, pringed when I. I saw it. I don't think I'm capable of that level of rhetorical expertise. I just, I'm just not. Because he laid it out perfectly. Like calmly, kudos for the worst question I've ever been asked. If you're calm and collected.

And you know when you say that, you're going to get a response. It's say something to get a reaction, get that reaction. Whoa, whoa, whoa, where's that reaction? from. First ballot Hall of Fame arguing. But I will say this. My wife, I love her very much. And when we argue, she's typically rational, especially after we take that 24-hour buffer period and come back calmly and discuss it. But she is a masterclass in conflict. Because if you fly off the rails, you lose. So I'm working really hard on meeting her at her speed when we have those. And thankfully, they're very few and far between. But when we do have them, I don't react. I'm a very reactionary person.

We need to study this. This is fascinating. How does your wife go about it? Is she a gloves off? He's a silent treatment is the worst because I am so loud and boisterous. And while the silent treatment is happening, there is a calculation and a method being done internally so that when we do come back 24 hours later, she hits me with shit. I'm not considering while I'm stewing.

And then I'm like on the ropes right off. Like I can't win it on you. I've learned to let the silent treatment pass. And then it's usually a fairly rational discussion after that. When the silent treatment, how do you, my daughter now uses the silent treatment naturally. Like nobody taught her to do this.

And you know who's driven most crazy by when my daughter does the silent treatment? The one who taught her. Uh-huh. The one she genetically inherited it from. Who do you act or how do you act while you're getting? the silent treatment. I used to be like a little child. I used to freak out. Now I just let it pass. But do you like try to hurt? Like if you walk, if you're getting in the middle of the silent treatment and you're walking by each other in the kitchen or you're in existing in the same space,

do you remain silent too? Yes. Okay. Because like I try to like grab her butt or like do stuff like to try to like that's that's not that's not you're just gonna make a matter i know i just i try to break through the silent treatment with an axe instead of letting it melt all right was on my white ass but like you know you're more you're more matured in your marriage like i'm still learning how to like i'm much better now 25 years that that was not how it worked in years one through five yeah ice melting is the way to go i try to break the ice and it's bad but i'm also like that at work now too. I used to be very combative at work and I'd fire off the email to the whole group and all that. I never do that anymore. Never. Look at that personal growth. No, it's killing my engagement.

I need to argue more as we learned. Yeah, you need to fight back. And then when your response, because like no matter what, like this is the other thing about fighting back on Twitter. No matter how rational or smart or right or correct or thought out your responses, they will always. always find a way to make it wrong. And then your responses go viral. So like that, that's, engagement 101. So, yeah, so I, I, I, we played that, that clip for mostly sports. And Liam said we got to go to war. I'm kind of glad we're not at war. You know there are shows producer, Katie. You know her, right? Great. Produces necessary, unnecessary, uh, unnecessary roughness, the college football show. So I am currently in the great news, North Carolina grad. Currently in the midst of

meta hell because I'm locked out of my Instagram account from the last 10 years and I had to create a new one. That one's verified. I'm having a terrible time with the customer service and the lack thereof and I think I'm completely locked out forever. Katie, the unnecessary roughness producer has been helping me or attempting to help me behind the scenes with my personal Instagram account and I want to say thank you to her on the show. I've been very, very nice and courteous behind the scenes. And I did tell her, though, if Brandon Walker wants war, I'll paint my face and I'll go to war. I don't think Casey Smith also was on that show.

I don't like Casey wants to go to war with us either. I don't really actually want to go to war with anybody. I am curious of, you know, the listeners, the viewers, if we went to war, if we did go to war, who should we go to war with? I like all those people, so it's hard. That's the problem. I feel like in college football, like the NFL, the people really hate each other.

You know that situation where Jordan Schultz and Ian Rappaport were John at the Starbucks. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. I'm team Ian Rappaport, by team Rapsheet. I don't remember what the conflict was, but I remember the actions, yeah. But we don't do that.

We're not big, like in the college sports space, we all kind of get along, mostly because we've all worked together at some point. Like, and we all worry we're going to get laid off someday and then our friends we used to work with are going to help us get a new job. So we tend not to go to war. Back in the days when I was a beat writer, Andy, I would ask a question in the news conference because when you're in big, on big beats like individual access is harder. So sometimes you would have to ask questions very detailed for your story in a public setting. And what would happen is I would have a seven-source, 2,000-word story I'm working on.

I would ask a question that I needed for that story. The answer would be good. And then there would be five blog posts in the Ohio State sphere about my question, which would then kind of undercut the story that was coming out back in the old newspaper days, like a day or two later. And I would like freak out at those people who would do that. So like that was like my conflict of like, don't steal my ideas type of deal. I think I learned that from Dougway Maurice, but like now I understand that people all have jobs.

He carries a sword on his podcast. He's a highly contentious person if you get on the wrong side of it. Yeah, he would go to war with us, I think, if I said the wrong thing, not with you, because obviously he's going to war with me. But my very first meeting with him, I was at the plane dealer at the McDonald's on, on Olin-Tangeloader at the McDonald's on Olin-Tangie River Road. It was the week I got hired by the, the plane dealer. And I was still a very young journalist. I was like 23. I didn't know anything. And we went to McDonald's before the news conference every day because it was right next to it. And there was Wi-Fi there. And he was like, all right, guys, what are we working on? And I said,

I'm just going to see what happens in the news conference and we'll go from there. And he goes, what the hell are you talking? Like, he freaked out at me. He goes, we don't go to news conferences and react to what happens. We make what happens in the news conference happen. We ask the questions that dictate what the news comes. And that is like that is a good beat writer strategy. Like you have to you have such limited access to these people. You have to go with a plan. So I've been on the very like a lot of the things that I've been yelled at by Doug Le Mauree,

I've carried through my career. And he's had a large impact on me. But it wasn't like soft parenting. It was like belt to ass parenting. And belt to Ari Wasserman, my white ass. Yeah. And that's a good place to wrap, I think. Now, look, if you guys want us to go to war with somebody, we'll go to war with somebody.

You get some suggestions. I might like too many people. Yeah, not Katie. Not Katie's show. No, no, no. I absolutely not. And I like Brandon. I think Brandon's funny as hell.

So, and I, I had DMed him yesterday. I said, thank you for this gift to our show. Well, lastly, Andy, he also was right. So. That's true. That's the other thing. Mathematically correct. Like, if you're correct and you have a gripe over being left off of the list that you rightfully should be on, like I would be the same way.

So it's like hard to get mad at him before it. Like I don't, I get mad at people who act irrationally, and I don't think that that was irrational. I thought it was funny. That's right. So what have we learned today? Ari Wasserman, my white ass. That's what we've learned today. If you want us to go to war with somebody, just hit us with some suggestions.

We'll get some face paint for Ari. My ass is very white. I thought you didn't have an ass. Well, my flat ass is white. We'll talk to you tomorrow. All right. I was her on my white ass.