Andy & Ari On3 - John Mateer and Oklahoma THUMP Michigan | USF SHOCKS Florida | Iowa State OUTLASTS Iowa

Episode Date: September 7, 2025

Andy and Ari break down all the action from Saturday, including ... Oklahoma's win against Michigan USF stunning Florida Iowa State beating Iowa Missouri winning a shootout against Kansas and much, much more! (0:00-0:38) Intro(0:39-2:44) BetMGM(2:45-20:49) Intro: Oklahoma 24, Michigan 13(20:50-34:07) USF 18, Florida 16(34:08-37:59) Mississippi State 24, Arizona State 20(38:00-42:41) Missouri 42, Kansas 31(42:42-44:49) SEC's BEST Team?(44:50-46:05) Clemson 27, Troy 16(46:06-49:30) Oregon 69, Oklahoma State 3(49:31-54:55) Other games in Week 2 - WHY?(54:56-59:09) Iowa State 16, Iowa 13(59:10-1:02:46) Illinois 45, Duke 19(1:02:47-1:07:33) Ole Miss 30, Kentucky 23, Ari's Rollercoaster(1:07:34-1:10:44) Baylor 48, SMU 45 (2OT)(1:10:45-1:11:36) Week 3 Preview(1:11:37-1:15:26) Vanderbilt 44, Virginia Tech 20(1:15:2701:16:56) Closing out on Week 2  Our show is presented by BetMGM! If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works: 1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB.2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game.3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sureyou use bonus code CFB when you sign up! Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary. See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US). Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel.   Join On3 today and get one full year of access to The Athletic included! https://www.on3.com/subscribe/C Watch our show on YouTube! https://youtube.com/live/BQdPPIntMeg Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Interested in partnering with the show? Email [e-mail]

On an instant reaction edition of Andy and Ari, we talk Oklahoma beating Michigan. John Mateer for Heisman, we talk USF, shocking Florida, Mississippi State in a crazy, crazy win against Arizona State. We go all the way back to the beginning of the day. Iowa State beating Iowa. It was a wild, wild day. I didn't even mention Missouri and Kansas and the legend who could have made money. He's kicking a field goal and said he just said FKU. What a day in college football.

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In a day that punctured a lot of our off-season narratives, John Mateer came through in a big, big way. You know, in fairness to us, I think we did a pretty decent job of putting ourselves out there, you know, and you're not going to be right all the time in this business. And we don't care about that. Let's talk about John Mateer. Let's talk about Oklahoma.

Oklahoma with a competent offense beating Michigan. Do you want to talk about how I've been saying Oklahoma will beat Michigan for three months? Is that what we've done? We can talk about that. Yeah. No, that game went exactly the way I thought it would. And in so many instances on Saturday. Wait, didn't you pick Michigan to cover this game?

Didn't I pick Oklahoma to cover? Yeah, yeah. I thought it would be like, you know. Then didn't it go exactly like I thought it would? You know, a really, really good defensive effort, low scoring game. The under hit hit that in real life, too. six and a half points felt like a lot took the points

but this is the type of game that I thought you were going to get a really good defensive performance from Oklahoma not a high scoring, high flying offensive affair you know I thought the game would be something like 20 to 14 or something like that so I guess from the spread standpoint you were

correct and I wasn't but you know I think that this is exactly what you wanted to get out of Oklahoma if you're an Oklahoma fan a defensive performance a quarterback that flashed you know, you didn't need to score 40, but you need to control the game. I thought Oklahoma controlled the game from start to finish. And I thought that, you know, coming out of this,

we talked about how big of a game this was for Brett Venables, you know, just kind of showing that Oklahoma will be able to compete. I think you go into SEC play now. Maybe not knowing all the answers that you, to the questions that you had because we're not sure what Michigan's going to be this year. But I think that that was maybe, I don't know, not Prisoner of the Moment stuff, but certainly one of the two most important wins of his tenure so far

because they did beat Texas in his tenure season. And I don't know if we're going to ever be able to answer tonight, whether or not Brent Venables redeemed himself. I think that that story is still to be told. But Oklahoma, after a long year last year, a year decimated by injuries, a year of bad luck, a year of infuriating offensive ineptitude, a year of an inability to block people.

I mean, all the things that crushed them last year, I thought, were tremendously better in this game. And I think that's all you can ask for your coach and your program is they're trying to rebuild something. They spent a lot of money. They spent a lot of time and they spent a lot of juice to revamp the team. And I thought that the benefits of that revamp were pretty apparent on Saturday night against Michigan. Yeah, competent online play. The quarterback was outstanding. Obviously, Ben Arbuckle, the offensive coordinator who came with John Mateer, or John Mateer came with Ben Arbuckle,

however you want to say it, it was fun watching them with the competent offense because we knew they were going to have a good defense. And they've had a solid defense since year two. The first year of the Venables era, obviously the defense was not where it needed to be personnel-wise. But when you put that defense with a competent offense, all of a sudden everything seems possible. So yeah, Michigan's very limited right now. I think Michigan's going to get better as the season goes on. I mean, it's clear, Bryce Underwood's a freshman. You shouldn't be putting a true freshman

to that situation, but that's the situation they're in. I saw somebody in the chat said if Underwood had gone to LSU would be on the bench. Of course he would, because Garrett Nussmeyer is at LSU. Michigan didn't want to start him this year either. It went and got Mikey Keene and then he got hurt.

Yeah. I don't know. If Mikey Keen wouldn't have gotten hurt, I don't know if he'd be playing still. I don't know. Maybe I'm at 10. I don't know. I mean, it depends on if he gave them a better chance to win than Bryce Underwood in this particular part of his career. You know, I think Bryce Underwood will get better, but he looked like a freshman out there. He did. He did. I mean, I think there's probably a huge discussion to have about if you want to win now, what the best way of allocating money is. Do you allocate that type of money to a freshman quarterback or are we going to see diminishing returns on that?

not that Bryce Underwood can't be really, really good down the liner that he won't be. I'm sure that he will be because he's got a really live arm and seems to be like a lightning rod for his team. But Michigan came into the season with the hopes of turning around their misfortune from last year and competing for a Big Ten championship. And I'm not sure that, you know, a freshman quarterback is the person that gets you there unless they're truly unbelievably remarkable. No, I mean, the way you spend the money if you're a team with as much money as Michigan is you should. buy the freshman quarterback and have a veteran quarterback who can play while the freshman quarterback learns.

You shouldn't expect the freshman to just jump in and be great right away. That's asking an awful lot. So Michigan goes into the Sharon Moore suspension. And that's an interesting part of this too. Now, they got Central Michigan next week, which is the funniest way to start that suspension, since that's where Conor Stallion showed up on the sideline. But then Central Michigan's actually kind of good. I don't know if you have been paying it.

But they can be pretty bad by Pittsburgh today. They're the type of team that if you show up lolly gagging can surprise you. They will hurt you if you're not careful. It's not a grambling state is what I'm saying. No. Nebraska, on the other hand, which is where they've got to go on the road with Zerone more also suspended and he can't coach at all that week, that is going to be a tricky game for them.

Yeah. I don't know if this makes sense. Let's workshop it. It's a reaction show. we're all fired up. I feel like Michigan is like last year's Oklahoma a little bit, not in how it's going to play out, because hopefully nobody gets hurt the way they did. But it's kind of like important, pivotal year. You had it down year the year before. Your coach is still fairly new. You have hope in them.

It was a really young quarterback who hasn't played that everyone's excited about and like a lot has thrown on him. A lot of Michigan's analysis, you know, around that team was, was their offense was awful last year. They couldn't throw a forward pass. They still managed to beat Ohio State and Alabama in the bowl game. Their offense is going to just by default be better than it was a year ago, and they're going to win 10 games. And it's like, I don't know that I prescribe to that notion.

So, you know, I felt like. You don't subscribe to it. I don't prescribe. I don't subscribe. What's the word? Well, you prescribe drugs. You subscribe to a magazine or to a notion. I don't. So what, what should I say? Help me. Subscribe.

Isn't that what I said? You said prescribe. Like you prescribed. You said prescribed. We can go to the tape. I don't. We can check tape afterward. River, what did I say? I meant to say subscribe, whether I said that or not. I don't, I don't know that I buy into that notion anymore. I don't know that I bought into it before, to be honest. I've always, you can go check some more tape and watch our shows from the off season. And anytime we got into it. discussion about Michigan winning 10 games. I kind of drag my feet on that. Yeah, you were not on board with that at all at any point. You know, and also, you know, Dylan Raylo is out there, you know, slinging it. Their coach is going to be suspended.

I don't know if this is a two and two or a three and two team going on the road to USC who also is slinging the ball around the field. Jaden Maiava, I think, threw for 500 yards on Saturday. Like, they don't have an easy go of it. And I don't know if being average on offense and, you know, a slightly above average on defense gets you to take you to. 10 wins against that schedule. So, you know, I know we're focusing kind of a lot on Michigan right now because the

We need some Oklahoma, too, a lot of times is a lot. It's fascinating, but I'm very curious because one of my bold predictions in the offseason was that Oklahoma would make the playoff. I don't know if I watched that game and felt like, hell, yeah, brother, I'm right. But I feel like they have a fighting chance in just about every game that they play, especially because I don't know, they have the hardest schedule on the face of the earth. We've discussed that over and over again. But as I'm sitting here right now, after the games on September 6th, do you see any team in the SEC that cannot be beaten by a Oklahoma team that we watch tonight on a good night?

I don't. I think Oklahoma has a chance to beat everybody. And I think what Kirk Herbstree said toward the end of the game is probably true that they're going to have to develop a little more of a running game with their backs and not just mature. But I thought that last drive, they did do it. good job with the backs and not just Mathier. And so, and Matur mentioned that after the game. But that, that part can evolve because it's, it's still pretty early. You know, the idea of Matur running that much with the schedule they have to play,

specifically the last seven games like during that stretch, I think it will be hard for him to stay healthy if he has to run that much. So, you know, they do need to probably spread the run game out. a little bit more. But other than that, hey, it looked great. He looks so comfortable. And the thing is, and this is what everybody who went and got a quarterback in the portal wants, but only a few places probably actually got, is a guy who looks like he's been doing this forever.

And I know he was only a starter for a year. But I think about the play, think about the play where he, he ducks a sack, duck's another guy lost it to the tight end over the middle and like the announcers are like why are you throwing that and you can clearly see he knew exactly what he was doing you put it exactly where it needed to be

it was beautiful yeah there was a play late in the game or at the end of the third quarter I lose track of what time things happen I need to take better notes where he was sacked I think Michigan sent an edge blitz and it looked like he was sacked

he shook off the edge blitzer then rolled out kept his eyes downfield and hit Cetania for that 46-yard game. And it's like that the right sideline, yeah. Down the sideline, yeah. That looks like that's like a polished player. A player that, you know, has been through it a little bit isn't, you know, overcome by the importance of the moment. And that was a pivotal play in the game that ended up helping Oklahoma win.

So we hyped up a lot of players this off season. We hyped up Arch. We hyped up DJ Lagway. Those are also probably topics later on in the show. but we also hyped up John Mateer and you take your L's and you take your Ws. I think that this one is a clear W. And, you know, Oklahoma, you know,

from an odds perspective, dealt with things last year that would be mathematically almost impossible. I can't think of another time that a team has lost their five best players at a single position ever. And they lived through that.

And they lived terribly through it. And now like Dionne Burks is a good player, Cetania's, is a quick player who's getting open. I am a little bit confused about Jaden Ott. Like that was a transfer that we were really excited about coming into the offseason. And from what I remember, I think he carried the ball like four times for less than 10 yards. Not sure what's going on there.

I think they do need to get their running backs going a little bit more, just for the sake, too, of just protecting the tear. But the defensive performance, and, you know, still early in the season, we don't have full context of what that's going to be or how well that's going to age. maybe Michigan will struggle offensively and that'll make more sense. But I thought that they were playing quick. They were playing fast. They were arriving at the football. They were hitting hard. They were playing like a team that was tired of being told they suck for an entire year.

And I think that that's the attitude that you want from your team when your coach is fighting for his life, right? Like we didn't get that in Gainesville. We're going to get to that. Nope. We'll talk about that later. You know, you want, that's what you want, right? Your coach is on the hot seat. your coach is dying for a win, a signature win like that.

He needs your team to fight and show that they are alive. They're not on the mat. And I thought that's what we got from Oklahoma. And after a tough year, if I'm a Sooners fan, I'm riding pretty high right now. I would agree with that. And two weeks, Auburn comes to town. Jackson-Arno comes back to Norman. That's going to be a lot of fun.

Auburn is 2-0. And this is going to be a huge game for both teams. is this, you know, Brent Venables will go from one got to have it game to another within two weeks. But this was a big test. And we talked about this on Thursday show, George Storia from Sooner's Group wrote that great column about this. This was Brent Venable's biggest game so far at Oklahoma. And it was a test that he passed. And, you know, it's interesting because we're going to talk about Florida in a little bit.

But both guys in year four, both guys on the. ropes. One's team looked like it had the same problems it's always had, and one's team looked like it had fixed the problems it had. And I think that is all the difference right now. That's the biggest difference. Earlier in the week, Brent was asked about how proud he was, or at least how excited he was to have a game like this on their campus against a legitimate contender or at least a good helmet game to get their fans excited and you hear coaches all the time and he's saying like we don't care what anybody says outside of the building the only thing that matters to me is what happens with my team in practice in the film rooms and in you know workouts

and breton venables i thought had a really interesting quote about how much he values the fans their engagement giving them something to cheer for and frankly their opinion and i thought that was something a little bit different than what you typically hear from a coach in a news conference, especially a coach that's going into a game with his ass on fire. And Brent leaned into it and said we want to give people a reason to celebrate. You want to have an opportunity to do that. That's something that we've always took pride in as opposed to the mindset of not worrying about how everybody outside the building feels.

That's not the same to me. You know that the opportunity you have and you want to show up for it. So like I thought, you know, that mindset alone was kind of a cool thing to read. And the fact that he was able to deliver it after a pretty tough year, he should go have an ice cold medello and unwinds and he earned it. No doubt. Yeah. No doubt. Yeah, the spirit of a fighter for Brent Venables there. And also, you know, Gingin in the chat pointing out that Kevin Wilson is back on staff at Oklahoma.

And then he was the coordinator of some very good offenses at Oklahoma. It's true. They've really improved. You've got Ben Arbuckle, who's kind of the wonderkin. He's very young. I believe he was 29 when he was hired. But Kevin Wilson, the ultimate veteran as far as offensive coordinators go. So they have a really good setup right now. It's just a matter of can they get through that gauntlet that they have coming up at the end of the season. Well, in the middle of the season that goes all the way to the end of the season.

Yeah, their last seven games is we don't, do we have to read it off? I'll read it off just so people can hear it. I like when people discover it again for the first time every time. Texas, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Bama, Missouri, and LSU all in a row. At least they get Kent there in a little bit. Like, Kent might be the worst team in college football this year, right? So they get...

I think, yeah, they're probably the worst team in the FBS, so that one should go fairly well. Does it balance out anything? I guess if you could, like, flip Kent with one of those seven teams, just so there was like a open week in the middle of that gauntlet that you might want to do that. But, you know, I think it might be... too early to open up

SEC wounds. And I don't want to be that guy every year that's like, oh, he hates the SEC. And I clearly don't. But, you know, I watched Georgia play today. I watched LSU struggle with Louisiana Tech. I don't know if that was just a hangover game. We don't want to read too much into it.

Georgia's... Well, LSU had their center and tight end go down with injuries, too. And that was not promising. Yeah. Georgia played the snooze fest against where they scored a single touchdown in every quarter and then just wasn't it delayed a while too?

There was lightning in the area. In this struggle with Kentucky Texas was already lost this year. I just like I don't know that there's a single team in this league that makes me feel like they're going to go wire to wire with this thing. And that's not saying

that Oklahoma is going to go beat Georgia and LSU and all these teams that they're I don't even know who they're playing anymore. I blacked out when we read the schedule for the thousandth time. But I think that you have to feel good, too, of knowing that you don't have to have a tremendously flawless team in order to navigate this schedule with wins. And I feel much better about the proposition of Brent Venables being the coach in Norman in 2026. And I did a week ago, and you're talking to somebody who was pretty high on their ability to achieve something this year. So, you know, don't want to go too far ahead and start talking CFP and all that stuff.

But I think it's important to acknowledge that this was a huge test for him. And I think the best way to really gauge a coach in their ability and their position, you know, outside the obvious, which is, you know, wins and losses in recruiting acumen is how your team plays for you. And I thought that Oklahoma's team played for him tonight in a way that instills some confidence that they know the score and that they're going to try to set it straight. So we now go from Brent Venables to the other guy whose name we always mentioned in the same sentence in the offseason, and that's Billy Napier at Florida. Because both of them kind of ride that razor's edge of good roster, but things could go horribly wrong.

Well, guess what? Things went horribly wrong in Gainesville. They lost 18 to 16 to USF. They have a four-game stretch coming up that is absolutely brutal. Next week they play at LSU, then they're at Miami, then Texas comes to Gainesville after an open date, then Florida goes to Texas A&M. I was saying before the season, they'd need to finish two and two in that stretch.

That was assuming a win against USF. With a loss against USF, it's even worse. And the problem is all of the things that Florida has done during the Billy Napier era that drive people crazy about Billy Napier, they did them all against USF, pretty much all them. They didn't put 10 people on the field goal block team. They didn't have two guys running the same number, but it was pretty close. they had a guy spit on somebody when USF was driving and trying to kick a game-winning field goal. So free 15 yards because apparently is the one person on earth who didn't see Jalen Carter on Thursday night.

I got to say that a lot of times, and I know that discipline trickles down from the coach, I try to give the coach a pass whenever one of his players does something stupid like that. I got to say in that moment when that happened, that has got to be one of the dumbest mistakes I've ever seen. I said it might be, I wrote a column about the whole situation, not just the spitting, isn't it? But I said that might be the dumbest penalty in Florida football history, which is saying something because Marco Wilson threw a shoe against LSU in 2020. Like, that's saying a lot. So, yeah, it's just a moment. It's not even that.

Like, they milked 27 seconds off the clock when they had the ball up one with 252 remaining. They had the ball with 252 first and 10. They used 27 seconds before they punt. They threw twice on that drive. Now, the first one, I do realize that DJ Lagway had the option to check out of the play and throw if he saw a loaded box. And if they ran into the loaded box, they might not gain any errors. but you know what they would have done also they would have run the clock so either your quarterback needs to be trained to be situationly aware in that situation or as the coach

and the primary play caller which is a major source of agita in gainsville billy napier is still the primary play caller you don't give him that option you call a handoff that will run 40 seconds off the clock or force them to take a time out yeah and i just remember too early in the game we were talking, it's like, I think Jade and Bob might have 60 carries in this game. It's like the fact that they just couldn't impose their will on the lines and in the running game at all, let alone in that moment was kind of alarming to me. Oh, USF controlled the line of scrimmage in this game. And I think that is the most shocking thing, especially when you're about to go play LSU and you're about to go play Miami,

because, and obviously Texas and Texas A&M, too, if you can't control the line of scrimmage against USF, you have very little hope of controlling the line of scrimmage. against all of those. Yeah. And then Lagway, you know, mostly offseason, not throwing with his teammates, various nagging injuries.

So it may be that he's still not knocked the rust off yet. I don't know. But this is not going to work like this. They cannot keep being that sloppy. And they're going to have to be almost perfect in the next few weeks. Like they probably need to go three and one in this stretch

to have any hope of having a good season. And I don't think they're going to do that. And so Billy Napier should be feeling quite a bit different than Brent Venables because like I said earlier, Brent Venables identified the problems in his program and it appears they fixed them. Billy Napier was told what some of the problems were like, hey, maybe you need to hire a play calling coordinator. In fact, that was one of the conditions of him returning this year as coach. But then he beats LSU, he beats Ole Miss, they beat Florida State, they beat Tulane, and all of a sudden, he's got some juice, and he's like, you know what, I'm not going to do any of that. I'm going to ride the way

I ride, and we'll just see what happens. Well, we saw what happened. So now Florida's probably going to have to figure something out, but it also may just be a tough season. Speaking of tough seasons, Ari, while I was soliloquying there, Nico, Eam Aliaba and UCLA were trying to come back against UNLV. They had gone way down. They were down 30 to 23. They were trying to march down the field and tie the game. Ball got tipped into the air by a UNLV linebacker, intercepted by a UNLV safety.

UNLV is now in victory formation. Dan Mullen has beaten Nico. Enjoy that, Tennessee fans. Oh, yeah. I know that we think that Utah is very good. And, you know, they won't big again. I think it was very apparent last week that this was going to be a rough year for them in Westwood. Going back to Florida for one second, I just wanted to make one point that I didn't get to make.

You can analyze that situation until you're blue in the face. Penalties or, you know, throwing in bad situations and, you know, all the things that you just said. And I think they're all valid and true. The thing that I can't get past and, you know, you're more of, uh, a football mind and I'm more of a feelings guy, although you do like feelings too, right? I love feelings. Is that Billy Napier

saved his job because a team that was left for dead fought like hell last year. For him. For him to resurrect their season. And then they come in to a home game against USF

and there's no fire. It was just a, snooze fest thousand yard stare laxadaisical lackadaisical whatever however you pronounce that word don't check me on it please um day and it's just like sometimes teams play like that when they're already arrived or when they're not they're too good to show up or you know they're coming off of a big win or there's a reason to feel good about yourself and i would have really if i'm a florida fan more than anything, would have liked to see the team play with a fire that you saw Oklahoma play with. And I don't know, uh, or that you saw Mississippi State play with or that you saw, like,

there were a lot of teams that came out fired up tonight and like we don't know. Alabama came out fired up after they got whipped by Florida State. They went out and killed Louisiana Monroe. We don't have any context on how good USF is this year for all we know this could be the 12 seed in the playoff at the end of the year. Or higher. This loss or higher, this loss could age well. But I think I could say with a straight face pretty confidently that if Florida

played with a passion that they did not play with if they would have won, you know, they almost won the way they were playing. If they would have just played like they gave a shit. Like, I don't know. Do you ever get that feeling when you're watching a team and it's like, does anybody care what's going on right now?

I'm not sure. I do think Florida cared. I just don't, I think they were surprised that USF was, was challenging them up front and that Byron Brown was as good as he was, which you should have been able to see on film. I mean, if you watch the, the Boise State game, it was readily apparent how good he is. Now, let's talk USF for a second, because they're playing Miami this week. I don't think they have to beat Miami to put themselves in a position to be in the playoff. I think if they just win the American after this, they could be fine.

That said, they might be able to beat Miami, too. Who knows? Well, you're the one that, you didn't even mention this in the instant reaction video, but you're the one that came up with the USF dream scenario where they sweep all their games against in-state teams and just fly into the playoff, no problem, right? Like that, you're 50% of the way there, and I didn't think you were going to get 50% of the way there.

When you said it, I was like, do play at they play at memphis and at navy in conference play so it's it's not like they can just walk through the american but and obviously toulain is also there probably waiting on the other side in the championship game if they get through that gauntlet but i mean they they don't have to beat my and of course they become the biggest boise state fans in the world they want to see boise state win the mountain west but i think they're in great shape i think alex golish has done a good job It's funny because I put Alice Golish on one of those lists of group of five head coaches who I think might get power five looks. And people were like, why would you put him on the list?

He hadn't been all that good. I'm like, no, no, no. He's been seven and six both years at USF. Do you know how hard it is to go seven and six at USF? I don't know why. I feel like I have 2005 recruiting brain. but I just am like, oh, they're in Florida. They should be okay.

It's just not that hard, right? It's significantly hard. It's very difficult to ask Jeff Scott. Ask Charlie Strong. It was hard. Yeah, I think he might have just coached himself into a job. I mean, that's how you do it, right? He's got to do it in conference play and go through the whole season.

But I do think he will pop up on some lists and not just the one I wrote. But I'm excited to see what USF does. does the rest of the way. Byron Brown, when he's healthy, because I think people forgot because he was hurt a lot of last year. If you go back to the end of 2023, they were humming. And Alice Golish, for those who don't remember, was the OC at Tennessee when Hinden Hooker was there. He worked with Josh Heppel. So you know what that offense looks like when it really gets humming. And, you know, I think with the talent, you know, and Florida's talent on defense, it was going to be hard for them to just slice and dice them. There are,

going to be games where they slice and dice people. I mean, you saw that against Boise State. Yeah. I'm on high alert. I wonder, you know, I still think Miami is, from what we saw, is really, really good. I wonder if we're going to get a game next week in Coral Gables or in Miami Gardens. I don't know if I'm getting ahead of myself, but it would be very interesting to see how that game goes to provide context to this one. But somebody said this in the chat, and it's true, Andy. I don't care how good USF is. their best or their, their version of very good or their version of even playoff contender

good, you still shouldn't be beating Florida at this juncture in Billy Napier's tenure. Exactly. Billy Napier is in year four. There are no more excuses in year four. It is whatever happens is on you. And go read his column, guys, because it was good. You did a good job with your column. I thought it was measured and, you know, well-reasoned it.

So I basically had him fired after the A&M game last year. and then he proved me wrong. I mean, look, they rallied. So I wasn't going to say he's getting fired. And he's not getting fired on Sunday or Monday. That's not going to happen. But if they're sitting at one in five, I wouldn't be shocked. Andy, I was with you when Florida lost to A&M last year.

We were in Wisconsin together. And I saw your cell phone. Just, you know, you don't have to tell. who was texting you or what they were saying, but is your battery dead? It hasn't been like that tonight, and I think it's because it's this early. There's been some, but that was, and that was why I wrote what I wrote, because it was, people were just coming out of the woodwork, and that tends to be what happens when you get into a dead coach walking situation.

And I suspect if they lose a couple more, that's what it's going to be like. That's interesting, though. I'm fascinated to hear that it wasn't like that, because this, one on the surface is either that or people just feel like it is such a foregone conclusion now that there's no sense in even talking about it yeah it does strike me as funny and you can walk me through this but i think that it is inexcusable that college football in it of itself is a entertainment product and somehow we ended up with a week two uh with only one ranked match up. I don't know how that's even possible. But I will tell you, week two was so much better

than week one. We said it. You said it because I was like, I don't know about this. And you said this is, it always shows us something. So let me, let me take you to, well, let's do two, two other games that involved SEC teams that were just ridiculously fun. I'll start and start Bill, where Mississippi State goes through a horrific season last year. They're 0 and 8 in the SEC. They're just terrible. And if you haven't read Chris Lowe's story on Mississippi State that came out this week, you should because it'll help you understand and contextualize a little bit what's been going on.

They were way, way behind in terms of NIL. The roster last year really had no business playing the SEC. Obviously revenue shares helped them, but they also have been able to raise more money. So this roster should be somewhat more competitive. And I think we learn that tonight when they jump out to a 17-0-0-0 lead against the defending Big 12 champs. And it's like, people are tweeting at me saying, oh, you saying Sam Levitt's the number one QB in the Big 12,

that's aging badly. I'm like, he won the Big 12 last year. Like, no, he's still a good quarterback. It's just Mississippi State isn't bad. And, but of course, they, Build a 17-0-0-0 lead, and then proceed to let Arizona State chip away at it. And Arizona State was running right through them for a lot of the game. Arizona State kicks a field goal late in the game to go up 20 to 17.

With a minute 38 left, and Mississippi State gets the ball, and Blake Schapen throws an absolute seed. That was a beautiful throw. 30 seconds to go. Brennan Thompson catches it, 58 yards, and it was just magical. Watching, like, hearing all the cowbells clanging and just watching those fans celebrate

because they've been waiting for something like this for so long. This program has been really down since Mike Leach died, and that was at the end of 2022. And it was one of those situations where it's, you know, most programs have coaching changes but not because the guy died and it threw them into a really tough cycle this is the type of thing that gets you out of that yeah uh and maybe chapter one page one of last year isn't this year yes you know uh and we're not gonna i don't know that i have any other input about the season other than this is a tremendous win for a program

starving for something um you know this year's not last year maybe for arizona state and this year's not last year for mississippi state and uh it was really really cool to see and that was like a five place 77 yard drive that like took a minute they took they took the goalpost down i mean it was it was awesome it felt like they were cooked when they were down 2017 and you know they done nothing for for a whole half and then to do that what they did that late in the game it's going to be a long drive back for Kenny Dillingham and his team because the closest hotel according to him is an hour and a half away that is in a casino did you see that well I mean they're just going to fly

home but yeah oh I thought that he was saying yeah they'll probably just fly home now but last night but yeah I don't know maybe they forgot their laptop charger in their hotel room like me I have no idea but yeah it was a it was a great win it's It's fun to see it when a team has struggled and they finally break through. It is really satisfying to see it. So definitely enjoyed that. Another game I thoroughly enjoyed was Kansas, Missouri. First installment of a once great rivalry since Missouri left the Big 12th.

So the last time they played, this was 2011. Please don't go that long again. This was awesome. This was a shootout. Missouri tacked on a touchdown at the end when Kansas was trying desperately to get back in it. But we had multiple lead changes, great, you know, great quarterback play between Jalen Daniels and Boer Buella. This was so much fun. Yeah, another instance of the bad beat scenario here, seven point dog, Kansas was in position to potentially win this game late and then they lose by 11.

And it was a really, really good game. And I know we have a clip to show people to kind of set the stage for how insane this rivalry. Do we have that clip, producer? Do we have the clip or do we just talk about it? Oh, here it is. Here it is. So this guy is, you can't tell. He actually has a prosthetic leg.

So he's an amputee. He is down on the field and he is supposed to kick a field goal. If he makes the field goal, he wins $25,000. But instead of doing that, he lifts his shirt up and just said and written on his chest and stomach is FKU. And so he shows both sides of the stadium, the FKU turns and then kicks the ball at the Kansas sideline. This guy will never pay for a beer again in Columbia, Missouri in his life. It was amazing. I wish he would have gone to the 20 and then turned around and like really gave like gave some effort to get the ball over there.

I thought that it was well executed, though. Very, very funny. And I think if you're going to try to go for 25 Gs, if you don't feel like you're going to make it, or even if you do, maybe this moment is worth more to you than the money. This is something that people will remember. It was hilarious and truly the type of insane of thing

that could ever happen in the NFL. Like, this is that is like the sport of college football right there. Some lunatic. Yeah, there's no Ravens fan that's going to have like F the Browns written on his chest. This stuff doesn't happen. Well, there's just so many games and so many, like, opportunities for things to go off the rails. But, like, it is just so funny.

And for Missou to come out and actually win, look, they were on ropes early. Like, they scored first, and then Kansas scored three in a row, and you got up pretty big. Yeah. And then Missou kind of took control of the game, and Kansas's offense is good. I know we were talking a little bit about, you know, underestimating them. This is a tough loss for them, but I still think this is a team that has a shot to win the Big 12. and I don't know if that sounds crazy, you know, to say coming off. I don't think it's crazy at all.

I think Missouri has a chance to be very good. So losing in this way to Missouri at Missouri is, there's no shame in that. And I know it says two possessions on the scoreboard, but it really was back and forth affair of the entire game. Kansas was in the same time. Kansas had a chance to win in the final minutes. There's no, there's no if stands or butts about that. Like they played a great game and Missouri was just better.

So I think that's going to be very interesting to watch because I do think Kansas can be very competitive in the Big 12. I think Missouri could be competitive in the SEC though. I'm not resigned in the fact because remember Missouri has maybe the easiest draw. It's either Missouri or Texas has the easiest draw of SEC schedules. It's still not super easy, but it's easier than what we talk about with Oklahoma. You know, although Oklahoma is part of it, and that's not easy. we always talk about how the big 12 is a bat shit crazy conference and we have a three and a half point minted coin for how the spreads of all their games because we never know who's going to win and you know maybe a team that we thought would finish last will like Arizona State last year will go out and win it and that doesn't necessarily happen much in the SEC like Vanderbilt did throw people for a loop last year in Mississippi State you know not so much but

the teams that are picked to finish the bottom of the SEC typically don't have a shot to win it. And I want to speak this into existence, Andy, because we have a big 12 SEC matchup. Like last year, the SEC in a less charming way was kind of the same insane conference of the Big 12 was, right? I mean, there was like a six-way tie at the top there at the end of the season for a while.

And it's like I am wondering if I, again, speak this into existence right now. And I'm looking at these 16 glorious. teams. If we are going to get a season out of the SEC this year where the best team in the conference fluctuates every week. Like last week everybody was all about LSU, man. Like LSU should be ranked number one. I saw a lot of their win at Clemson on the road was more impressive than Ohio State's home win against Texas. Texas was the bell of the ball coming into the season. Then LSU stole a show. You know, Alabama loses. Georgia plays a weird game today. It's like,

who do we think is the favorite to win the, like, who's the favorite to win the SEC? Georgia based on helmet alone. Right, but if we went to the message boards right now, the Georgia fans are melting down. Like, they're scared of their offense is going to shut down against Tennessee that they're not going to be able to score because they didn't feel like they played very well against Austin P. And ESPN game day is going there next week.

You know Tennessee is going to be fired up. You got Joey Aguilar throwing bombs that Mike Matthews down the field. You know Tennessee is going to show up for that game. they're going to have blood on their fangs. And I don't know if you, do you buy into this, this notion of like, I don't know who the best team in the SEC is. And I think the thing that separates the SEC, obviously, from the Big 12 is that you have more teams or just teams in general

that could conceivably win the national title. But, you know, after what I saw from Alabama today, they played with a, you know, a passion that, I don't know, you play a team that you can't beat you. It's Louisiana in a row. We don't know. I don't want to put too much. But Alabama looked really good on Saturday, unstoppable.

A lot of people took the points thinking that they were just going to melt down and they were winning by 35, I think, at halftime. But I don't know, 4 is a 42 nothing at halftime? Andy, gun at your head right now, like, who wins the conference? And if it's a hard question to answer, then we're. I have no idea. I have no idea. Because it's crazy.

You can talk me out of any of these teams. You can't. LSU looked great last week at Clemson. but then, like, LSU didn't look great against Louisiana Tech. I just mentioned they lost two starters. We don't know for how long, but they probably won't be playing next week. And then Clemson was like losing to Troy. And Clemson was losing to Troy.

Exactly now. They ended up beating them. But holy crap, it was for a minute there, it was wild. It was a 16 to nothing, Troy, at one point. Crazy pick six on the deflection that was caught and just kind of barreled into the end zone from the three yard line. You know, Clemson scored a touchdown on their next possession, I believe, and then it was called back, and they had to settle for three. Like, it was just kind of like a, you know,

Clemson dominated the second half. I'm not going to pretend like Troy had a shot to win this game. But for a while there, you know, when Clemson was minus 180, you kind of think, hey, maybe, you know, you put a bunch of money on this and try to get some good value here. I did that last year when Alabama was playing Vanderbilt, and it didn't work out and was too afraid to do it again, and I didn't.

But maybe Clemson has some issues that maybe the LSU win is starting to look a little bit weird. I don't know. All I know for sure is that we have plenty of time to see what happens. In the Big Ten, there are three clear leaders, and one of those three teams will win the Big Ten, period. Oregon, Ohio State, and Penn State. That's it. It's simple in the Big Ten. Which that brings up Joshua's question in the chat.

Did Oregon's win solidify that they were a top considerer in the Big Ten? One, they didn't need to win today, or they didn't need to show us that. We already knew that. But Oregon beat Oklahoma State 69 to 3. They played ACDC's money talks after the game ended. Because Mike Gundy kept talking about how much they spent on their roster. Oregon made Oklahoma State look like an FCS buy game team. I don't think that goes.

very well for Mike Gundy. I think it's kind of funny that Mike Gundy could just be like, see, I told you. Well, he could see I told you his way to a buyout if he keeps saying, see, I told you. It is kind of funny, though. It's just like, yeah, they pay a lot of money for their players

and we can't compete with them. And then when you get your ass kicked, it's kind of just like, yeah. But we did joke about this in the beginning of the week. And here's the actual takeaway from this. It was a two-pronged approach. One, I think that he was trying to politely set the expectation for his own fans going into this game. Correct.

It was a 27.5 point spread, and I think there were a lot of people out there that, you know, thought that 27 and a half was a lot of points for a big 12 team going on the road. But then secondly, maybe, too, it's to light a fire under his spenders' asses to try to get them to, you know, get to a place where they can compete. But I don't know that he's going to get that chance because I don't know that he's going to be coaching next year to those people to spend. where we're at with the Gundy situation. I know that there was some salary restructuring and all that stuff that went on last year. The salary, which in turn cut is buyout.

So it's $15 million if they want to fire him. But like Oregon to me is kind of like coming out and saying like, yeah, you know, you don't, you saw what Dante Moore said. I presume if you didn't, I can tell you. He basically said if you come out and talk about our coach and our program like that, it feels like you're insulting my dad. and we're going to come out and try to break the scoreboard, you know, because they love their coach and they love their program. And, you know, as we outlined earlier in the week, it's like, you're not insulting Oregon by saying they're trying harder to win. And I also think that it is just amusing to me that, like, Oregon ran it up to prove a point that Gundy already made himself verbally earlier in the week. Right, exactly.

It's just like, you didn't prove a point. I mean, you just reinforced it. but I think that in general, Oregon is the most underappreciated team in the country in relation to how they're viewed to what they can accomplish. I will argue they just haven't played anybody good yet. We're not paying attention to them yet. Sure. And guess what?

They're the big noon game next week. They're playing Northwestern. What are we even doing, Fox? Like, you had a lot better options, I'm sure. But they don't, like the Ohio State not playing somebody next weekend. Do they have an open week? Usually just tossing Ohio State there. Do you see the big noon thing is actually working?

Ohio State's big noon game against Texas, I think, was like a 17 million. Oh, yeah, 16.6.5 or something, yeah. It works. I'd love to look at the Ohio State schedule and see who they're playing. I'm surprised that it's Northwestern Oregon, but, you know, spread the love around a little bit, I guess. They're playing Ohio U, which knocked off West Virginia. That's electric. It's on Peacock at 6 p.m.

You guys can go check it out. The fighting Pete Nacos is knocked off West Virginia. Andy, let's transition to Ohio State for one second because I had a thought and I wanted to apologize to you about something today. Oh, well, sure. We got into a discussion, a really stupid one from my standpoint earlier in the summer,

about the pros and cons of scheduling only power games and better games. And I kind of came up with the presence, the premise of, well, if everybody plays everybody, then it'll be harder to, you know, sift through the debris at the end of the year

and come up with a clean slate to get the playoff. And you were like ragging on me. I got to say, gambling. It didn't do much for you. There is a line somewhere. And I know we joked about the band

first the band thing earlier in the week. The spread was 55. Everybody knew what they were getting with this game. And there's no analysis about football here. Here's my analysis. Can I use the F word? Sure. We're 50 minutes in.

Who's going to know? Why the fuck are we playing these games? Like, listen. Like, this isn't like, this isn't like a group of five teams. It's not like USF or Ohio or even a Mac school. like you're playing against a team where an inner squad scrimmage is twice as there was no push at all it's like there's no all you're doing it's a health risk right there has to be maybe and i don't know what the financial ramifications are and i don't want to be on reddit tomorrow but there's got to be a way where we can draw a line in the sand of like this team's level does not play this there's there's a way to do that you you say FBS, can't schedule FCS. It's just, it's, I don't understand the, I don't even understand the point in playing.

Now, I will say, if we, if we, if we did that, you would lose things like Long Island going to Eastern Michigan and winning. Long Island, the team that got, that had four total first downs against Florida, or one first down, I don't know, it was, it was not much. They did, they beat Eastern Michigan. I understand too, like HBCUs aren't really important. piece of college football history and that you want to do your best of finance but I know but like I'm sure this game

made for a large portion of their financial budget you know moving forward and like it's important I guess to some to support smaller schools particularly the HBCUs and I can understand and appreciate the value in that I don't think that games should be played where if you simulate

the game five million times that they won't at least win one like there isn't there isn't a point to me it's not just that it's boring it's just a waste of time to me right you just write a check it'd be easier just give them the money yeah and then play somebody else i don't know i don't know if i sound crazy but it i mean minnesota who did they beat minnesota oh did i tell you this i took for the first time in my entire life I took a football spread of plus 80 and a half. What?

It was live. I took it. I saw it and I'm like, I'm going down in history. I don't care if it wins or loses. I don't know anything. You just wanted to be plus 80 and a half in a football game. Just for the screenshot alone.

Minnesota was winning 59 to nothing at halftime. Yeah, it's Northwestern State. And they were plus 80 and a half at halftime. And I just like, I mean, you know what, I'm doing it. If they win 88 to nothing, then I will just go down like a sweet muffin. They won 66 to nothing, Minnesota did. They only scored once. They showed some mercy.

But again, another instance of games that probably should not be played. If Northwestern State can't not give up 60 to Minnesota and a half, there were a lot of these games today. And I think when you have a lot of these games, you're spinning the white ball on the roulette wheel and you don't want to be the team that it lands on. Florida was the team today, you know. But we had a lot of really good games, but we had a lot of like,

why are we playing this game to begin with games? And I think that we would be better off as a community, a society, and maybe even a country. If we just, we don't get a lot of fall Saturdays. They're very fleeting. Summers are long. Offseason suck. It's a shame.

And I mean this for Minnesota fans. I mean this for Ohio State fans or any other game that featured a 60 point spread. There isn't even a point to it. It isn't even competition. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a charade, the whole thing. There you go. Are you on a soapbox.

All right, let's talk about a game that should be played every year. I do. I've said it. I, I, I think they should get to their level and play 12 games against teams at their level. Play good teams. Play good games. It's an entertainment product. All right.

Let's talk about a game that should be played in state rivals. They rarely score against each other, and they didn't let us down today. Iowa and Iowa stayed in Ames. It went exactly as we thought it would. Mark Grinowski, I've backed off that take during the week. I'm glad I backed off that take. he did look more comfortable when they kind of let him

run around a little bit. For half of that game, I thought we were getting two years ago, Iowa offense back. Really, I truthfully thought. The first half, and then the second half, they kind of, it felt like they figured some things out that he likes to do. Warren Regerio, the longtime Wake Forest, offensive coordinator is a consultant or an analyst at Iowa. So they were running some slow mesh with him that actually worked a little

it. And so it got better. But what I said during the week, what I said we made predictions. Now, I did get the prediction wrong because Ari correctly pointed out, even when Iowa State wins, they never win by more than three. And I had Iowa State minus three and a half. But that Rocco becked because he's the more experienced guy, because he's shown he can do this at this level, is going to win this game. And he did. So Iowa State's kicker Conrardi is awesome. He has 63 yarder last week

and this week he just he drills of what it was a, what was it, a 503 yarder to win the game? The thing I love about the SciHawk is that they played this game a million times and I can't differentiate the games from one another because they all look the same and it is just Iowa and football through and through. I think that what you said about Grinowski was correct as the game went on. He seemed to

settle down a little bit and I think that he'll probably get better as the year goes on. I thought Iowa's offense had a chance this year to be something other than what it is and I don't know that I believe that anymore but I think that they can still be semi-functional. I thought they were semi-functional in the second half of this game. And, you know, there was one sequence in this game, Andy, where I thought you were cooked for good. And this was when Iowa State punted in Iowa's return, man, his name is escaping me, forgive me, allowed the ball to bounce past him.

And then he went back and fielded the ball and ran backwards. And then on top of it, there was a holding penalty that pinned Iowa. deep in their own territory down to like their five and it was probably i would venture to say kirk ferrence's worst nightmare as a human in life not just in football like that was just the epitome of special teams play yes all about penalty makes it worse pinned back deep and then iowa went down the field like 80 yards for a field goal and like two years ago iowa would have been cooked and would have been punting three plays later and i thought that that was a nice if you're an iowa fan you can cling on to that drive and be like you know what you know we're going to be

be in some Big Ten West games this year, but they're still, their offense is nowhere near as good as what I thought it could be. And maybe, maybe they'll turn that around. I don't know, but, you know, the comment that you just highlighted with Kenneth Love, you can put it back up, it relates to this. It's the same thing. And, you know, you need certain playmakers to lift up your quarterback as well. And I think that one of the mistakes that I'm, I've made, and I think we've made, and I'll remember this next June, is that analyzing a player's receivers and what they have around them

is every bit as important as analyzing who that player is at the quarterback position. I agree with that, Kenneth. Thank you for the comment. No, it is a good point. It actually transitions as well to the next game because he was talking about Darian Mensa at Duke. Yeah.

And Illinois goes down to Duke. This was a nip-and-tuck game for a half. Like, if you just looked at the score, you have no idea how this game went because this was very competitive for a lot of this game. And it looked like two pretty well-coached teams going at each other. And then Illinois finally just broke them down. And I think a lot of it was Luke Altmire just was him for a lot of that game. Because he had guys in his face.

Duke's D-Line was dominant in the first half and just was terrorizing Luke Altmire. But he usually found a way out of it in a way to get rid of the ball. ball. And I just, I was really impressed with him. And then Illinois run game picked up and then they just dominated in the second half. You know, we have a co-worker who's a big Illinois guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I was texting him during the game. And he was not fired up by what he was seeing, especially in the first half. And he was nitpicking certain things that I think were rational, like Iowa, Illinois's secondary, which is supposed to be a veteran group or turned everybody, you know, had some holes, some lapses in judgment, some, you know, some blown coverages.

The defensive line wasn't getting as much push as you would have expected from Illinois, I think at times. Luke Altmire, though, very good. I thought it was off the radar a little bit, off the mark with accuracy on a few plays. And I think that the takeaway from that is Illinois played a game in which you probably wouldn't feel like they dominated or they played their best football and they still beat a very good team on the road. And like, that's what football is if you want to be a real contender. And I have to tell you this. I don't know if people care about my gambling plays.

They probably don't, but we talk about it a lot on the show. No, we're going to talk about one of yours in particular after we talk about this game. Yeah, but I got my ass kick today, Andy. You know, some of the, some days you just show up and it's just not your day. And I had Duke in this one because I thought it was the right play. And Duke, part of my French, shit their pants like five times in this game in like really, really bad ways. they turned the ball over four times two of which were deep in Illinois territory at critical points of the game and I think that they kind of just you know the the string or came unraveled and they just kind of went off the cliff a little bit but I came away from this game there was a certain point at the end of it and you have 19 games when you're at home watching it's kind of hard to see everything but when the final minute of this game was happening they zoomed in on Brett Bilema his headset was off

and he gave you that patented Bilema smirk. And like, he has that smirk a lot and it's often for very different reasons. This one was, I knew it. I knew we were going to be good. Like, I knew that this was going to happen. Because you know, we talk a lot about reading coaches, reading between the lines of what they're saying. Beelamow was very outspoken about how good his team was this offseason. And I think that if they're winning a game 45 to 19 against the team that won nine games and has a

really exciting quarterback on the road, then maybe you should stop rolling your eyes every time we say Illinois, it's a chance to compete for a playoff spot. Yeah, and we'll see. I mean, like, they've got Indiana in two weeks. Two weeks? And that'll help us learn some things. And at Western Michigan, they go Indiana and then USC in consecutive weeks. That's going to be a great weekend.

I already see a lot of these big games popping up on 920. Mm-hmm. We're going to learn a lot. We're going to learn a lot. So you learned some things today about yourself. You mentioned you had a bad, bad day. It was a bad day. It was a great day.

Stoos made your day much worse. Yeah, he sure did. Mark Stubbs made a lot of people's day much worse. So not through any fault of his own. He's just trying to win a game. But I'll set the scene. Ole Miss, depending on when you got it, could have been anywhere from a nine and a half point favorite

to a 10 and a half point favorite. But probably if you took it later in the week, you had Ole Miss minus nine and a half. Also, the total in this game was 50.5 when the game started. So, Ole Miss was winning 30 to 20. Ariel, let's you take it from here. Oh, just so you know, I had nine and a half. I didn't touch the total, so that didn't impact me, but it did.

So the entire game I'm texting you in River. Like, I'm not going to survive this. I'm not going to, I'm never going to financially recover from this. I didn't hammer Ole Miss pregame more than a unit. I just did the same amount as every other game. But what did happen was I had a terrible morning. I had Virginia plus three. Remember how that one ended?

Oh, NC State, by the way, wins a shootout against Virginia. Shout out to CJ Bailey and company because it looked like they were on the ropes too. And they came back in the second half and won that game. I'm going to put a pin in NC State right. right now. Just put a pin in them right now. Andy, this is all going to wrap around to me closing this, but I want people to understand my mindset. So Virginia

plus three, they turned the ball over on three consecutive or they got deep into the territory three consecutive times to end the game, down three, missed a field goal, turned it over, and then they were at the five yard line with a chance to win the game and they throw a pick to a linebacker and they lost by four. So that was terrible.

I had SMU minus three. They were up by 14 with six minutes left and then lost in overtime. I had Duke plus three. These are all things that were happening in the beginning. Every bad break a human being could get was happening to me. So then I see an early situation where Ole Miss is down by 10. And I'm like, okay, I came into the week convinced that Ole Miss was going to run through this team. I thought that Ole Miss was was going to win comfortably. I thought 10 was the wrong spread. And I told people on the show and in a content item on On 3 to go bet this.

So I nuked it on tilt, full on tilt, Ole Miss money line just to win the game. And it was like five units in comparison to everything that I had. And then we're at the end of this game, Andy, and Ole Miss is clinging to a seven point lead. Their quarterback, Austin Simmons, was out of the game because he got injured. And then Ole Miss drives down the field with Chambleau's, their backup quarterback and they kick

a field goal. Now granted, if you were watching this game closely, when they kicked a field goal, there was a flag on that field goal. Do you remember this? And if it was a roughing the kicker flag, it would have extended the drive and just taken knees and one by seven, but instead it was running into the

kicker. The field goal was good and they went up by 10. So half the country that bet on Ole Miss is feeling really, really good about being up by 10 with a minute and a half left. Finally, after that long, disaster of a football game you got to the promise land

Kentucky goes all the way down the field and grab ass time kicks a senseless field goal I think with like 10 seconds left to try to get within one possession well it wasn't since right right I mean it wasn't a field goal and then they try an onside kick it's the right thing to do for a football standpoint and the game was basically over

it was the right decision from a coaching standpoint it was an infuriating one for people who bet on it and then on top of that that field goal not only cut the deficit it from 10 to 7, which blew the spread if you're on Ole Miss, it also made the score 30 to 23, which was two and a half points higher than the 50 points. It was that below the hook at the 50 and a half.

So that field goal screwed a lot of people, including myself. It was a rough. You know, this is what happens. And I don't know what it is in gambling. And I get the sense, too, even in casinos. Sometimes when you show up in a casino, if you put 50 bucks in a slot, you hit. you hit on 15 four times in a shoe and you get six five fours and you're just it's just sometimes

it's your day and it's just like no matter what you do whatever you touch is going to hit and sometimes you just show up and you get your ass kicked and today I got my ass kicked I'm still getting my ass kicked I was on the over the Stanford game I don't know they got in a first down in like 28 minutes so yeah Stanford BYU's doing fine Stanford's not you did point out the SMU Baylor game we probably should talk about that SMU was up, two touchdowns, six minutes to go. Baylor comes back, wins it in double overtime. A huge double overtime win for them, and they needed that.

Because after they lost Auburn, I think if they go 0 and 2, then you're starting to wonder. And I don't honestly, because you look at, we think Auburn is going to be pretty good. We think SMU is going to be pretty good. I don't think this changes my opinion of what Baylor can be in the Big 12. I still think they can be a good team in the Big 12. And so if they lost today, I'd still think they could be a good team. team in the big 12. But I think from a psychological standpoint, having this huge win now is very beneficial.

Yeah. Makes me feel a little bit better about Auburn, too, you know, as we put context clues back together. Auburn had another. Yeah, because we were like, we're like, hey, Auburn can't stop Baylor's tight end. What's that mean about Auburn's defense? Well, maybe nobody can stop Baylor's passing game because Soror Robertson was, was slinging it today.

Yeah, yeah. And I don't know if SMU is the epitome of elite level defense. You know, we'll find that out again as we move forward. But, you know, SMU had the game won on their home field. And there's a lot of like grab-ass type stuff that happened in this game. You know, remember when Kevin Jennings dropped back and tripped over the ref and fell over. And then on the ensuing punt, they punted the ball away. And, you know, there was a controversial call where, uh,

You know, someone got thrown into a return man and hit the return man. The ball hit them and SMU recovered it and there was a review of it and everybody was losing their minds. That crazy targeting call that was reviewed at the end of the game that could have put SMU in field goal range. They made the right call on that one. It was just kind of like a prototypical rivalry game that went off the rails. It was super entertaining, super painful for some, super exciting for others. But it was a really, really good game. and, you know, SMU was a team that, you know, if they would have won this game and gone 2 and O,

you might have been like, hey, maybe SMU's back off to the races and Baylor, you know, saved, I think, themselves from maybe a little bit of a free fall situation. Now SMU is going to have to figure out a way to pull themselves up off the mat. They've got a game Baylor does against Arizona State in two weeks, and SMU is going into the ACCC here pretty soon. So I've got the TCU game, the SMUTCU game on the road at TCU on September 20th, circled is another you know another game you have circle on september 20th it's a big day how are you going to handle that day with your daughter's birthday party i know i know keep i just it's a

i just like to mess with ari about this yeah it's just like i don't know i'll figure it out we're getting TVs brought in and the party is going to listen here's the one thing i do know andy i don't know how it's going to happen but you know i'm going to show up and i'm going to be ready to go. Of course you are. You never let us down, are you? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, we will be having some internal conversations in the Wasserman

household about this stuff moving forward. Well, so I did make fun of Big Noon for doing Oregon Northwestern, but there are some interesting games next week. So Central Michigan, Michigan is interesting just because it's the first game of the suspension. Wisconsin, Alabama, of course. Oklahoma is going to Temple. That's a, that's, I'm sure that's a cheese steak play by outgoing Oklahoma athletic director, Joe, who's still been known.

But Castiglione, I just, it's late. I'm sorry. Georgia, Tennessee, of course, is the, is the featured game. That's the one everybody's excited about. USC opens Big Ten play against Purdue. You got the backyard brawl, although with West Virginia coming off the lost Ohio, you, it doesn't seem as, great. U.S.F. Miami. Ooh, boy. Oh, Ari. I can't believe.

So much happened on Saturday night. And again, we talked about week too not being a great week. But we two turned out to be a fantastic week. The Vandy Virginia Tech game was wild. Wildly entertaining game for a weekend for ball lovers. And I made this comment earlier on in the day but everybody can get excited for Ohio State, Texas and LSU Clemson, right? Everybody gets

fired up for those games. The casual fans love it, but if you are fired up to watch Baylor SMU, if you are fired up to watch Illinois Duke, if you're watching the show right now, this is a very entertaining game from day from start to finish

man, because the football was entertaining. There were a lot of blowouts. There were some Well, Virginia Tech goes up on on Vanderbilt, and it felt like, okay, they are going to bounce back from that loss to South Carolina. And then they played South Carolina well, like they played them tough for most of that game. And so you thought, oh, okay, this is good. This is what we saw from Virginia Tech last week, and they built on it.

And they're up 20 to 10 in halftime. Vanderbilt beat the living hell out of them in the second half. I don't know what changed, what Clark Lee said in the locker room. But Vanderbilt, like, every time I looked up, there was either a Vanderbilt back or Diego Pavia just running through Virginia Tech's defense. Every time Virginia, I mean, sorry, Vanderbilt is losing, I constantly have this tick. It might be like Tourette's related, I think, where I'm thinking, good luck winning the championship now. Good luck winning the national title now. You came back to win the national title.

I always think about Diego Pavia talking about how he's at Vanderbio. built to win a national title. And I don't mean it in a flattering way. Like, there's something wrong with me. And they keep winning games. And they're really fun to watch. And they're really good. And I'm not saying they're going to go win the national title. But this isn't your old school Vandy team, man. They're tough. And the one thing that you and I both can agree upon is after watching Virginia Tech physically in person a week ago against South Carolina, like they're a tough team like physically like to go in there and on the road and beat the crap out of them the way that they did in the second half like bandy's a team man they're a team virginia tech's in a bad spot now

brent pry we we figured this was it for brent pry i don't know how much longer it lasts in terms of real time i don't know when the when the plug gets pulled but when vandy scored to go up 3720 and lane stadium was basically emptying out and and remember at that point point, you're about 25 football minutes from a point where Virginia Tech was actually winning the game, and the fans had just abandoned the place, it's not good. It does not look like it's going to go well. I just, I don't know, but we'll see. You know, enough doom and gloom.

We started with the Billy Napier doom and gloom, now we're with the Brent Pride doom and gloom that'll all take care of itself here doom and gloom is a feature of weekends like this oh yeah oh yeah this is when doom and gloom thrives i was talking about games next week bandy south carolina's next week good game that's gonna be fun that suckers in columbia william rice stadium sandstorm we're playing uh joseph ramirez in the chat says y'all can have your florida versus LSU, which is another game next week, which I don't think the Florida people are all that excited about. I think the LSU people are way more excited than they were. But he says, give me Tulane and Dary and Mentsa's return any day of the week. That's right. Duke goes to

Tulane, Dary and Mensa, who left Tulane will come back as Duke's quarterback. Also, Ari, probably the biggest game of the weekend, Texas A&M at Notre Dame. Notre Dame, I don't know if it's a must win. I guess they can go 10 and 2 to make the playoff, but they probably need to win this one. I think we could go on a limb and say it's a must win. Yeah, I think so too. So great weekend, great Saturday. Like Ari said, even better for the ball lovers. Next week's going to be so much fun.

We will be back Sunday afternoon on the On3 Sports YouTube channel, early previews of some of the biggest games for week three. And then Monday's show is the pick show. Get ready. I think I'm making a comeback on Ari. I don't know. haven't tallyed the totals, but I'm pretty sure I'm making a comeback. Yeah, I mean, if you can't get points

this week, I got killed. Then what are we doing? I'm sure you did well, because we were on the opposite side of a lot of things. I am very bad at this stuff. That was a fun, fun Saturday. It doesn't have to be a sexy prime time filled top 25 matchup type weekend for us to get

what we want, and we did. So thanks for being here, and Andy, it was awesome. You never know when the bomb's going to drop? In New New New New New next week. Thank you.