Andy & Ari On3 - Lane Kiffin STIRS IT UP at SEC Media Days

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

The best version of Lane Kiffin is the one who is funny without even trying to be, and that Kiffin showed up in Atlanta for SEC media days.(0:00-1:27) Intro: SEC Media Days, Day 1(1:28-20:02) What all Lane Kiffin said at SEC Media Days(20:03-30:11) Would Nick Saban come back to College Football?(30:12-40:43) Will LSU knock off Clemson week 1?(40:44-44:30) Best Tailgate Foods(44:31-49:36) Ari and the new video game(49:37-1:01:38) Netflix releases new trailer for SEC documentary(1:01:39-1:11:54) Andy's Top 10 Big Ten QBs(1:11:55-1:14:22) Sneaky Week 1 Matchups(1:14:23-1:20:00) Ari and Ticketmaster(1:20:01-1:21:00) Conclusion: See you tomorrow! The Ole Miss coach complimented Auburn coach Hugh Freeze’s golf game and stoked the fire of the idea of a Nick Saban return to coaching. Meanwhile, LSU coach Brian Kelly talked about the pressure on the Tigers to win at Clemson in week one. Andy released his top 10 Big Ten QBs, and Ari has some critiques of the list. Plus, Netflix is releasing a documentary series on SEC football, and we're in it!

Welcome to Annie and Ariane on day one of SEC Media Days in the books day two beginning. Got two threes and Kirby Smart this morning. Kirby Smart will be going on as we're on the air Ari. I don't know if he's going to stay. He's not the typical drop any bombshells at Media Days kind of guy. So I don't know if we're going to get too much yet. Kirby Smart is the coach that will say something interesting and it takes like five minutes to break down. But when you finally get the answer to it, he means something very deep, but not exactly what he said. Is that right?

That actually sounds good. Yes. But he's, he's delivers messages, but they're also delivered in a package where like, if you know, you know, and if you don't, you'd never get it. Right. He will occasionally speak in code. That is for sure. One who never speaks in code is Lane Kiffin, who was there yesterday. And I don't think Lane was trying to make any waves.

Like the headline, I made the headline of this video, Lane Kiffin stirs it up at SEC Media Days, which he did in multiple ways without even meaning to. And that's the part I love about Lane Kippen. Like he is a gift from the content gods and the fact that he's got a good team that's relevant makes it even better. Yeah. Um, yeah, stirs it up is interesting because like the conversation topics that he was hitting are very significant, but at the same time too, I don't

think he said anything crazy. Uh, I don't know about you, but you know, let's get him. He got, he got rolled into some of these, like that. Well, we'll start where everybody wants to start because you and I have talked about that's on the show, like the sending all the fish pictures to Hugh Freeze. So somebody finally asks what's up with the fish pictures to Hugh Freeze? What are you doing? It seemed like in the past week you've had a few tweets tagging or directing at you.

Freeze was curious what the message or thought behind some of those posts were. Well, someone said that coming in here to me, I like coach freeze, so I think they think that that was something to do with like I was fishing and it was golfing. That really wasn't that. I have a thing with him going back a few years ago and he like posted a picture like in response to me of like some two-pound bass or something like that. So I've kind of always posted bigger fish pictures back towards him so I had nothing to do with his golf game which sounds like he's doing amazing at that. So that's great for him. The best comedy is when the comedian takes it so seriously

that you're not sure if they're joking or not. Like the best movie comedies are when the actor commits completely. Yeah. They are playing it as if the character takes all of this stuff seriously, even though they're in these absurd situations. That was the last two sentences of that lane kiffin answer right there. It's not about his golf

game, which is fantastic. I hear so good for him. Yeah, I'm not confused. He was definitely jabbing him. There's no other way to take that. Like, you know, he played the bit well. And if you want to stop the answer of like, yeah, we've you know, he played the bit well and if you would have stopped the answer of like, yeah, we've been doing this for a few years and if you go back and verify whether or not that's actually true or whatever, but like he knows exactly what he's doing and he like did it again at the podium. Like there's no

question about it. Like that last golf part was a complete and utter jab and there's no other way to take that. I Wish they played this year. I Mean, maybe they will maybe maybe they both make the SEC Championship game or they both make the playoff and they play They're not scheduled to play this year. But wow that Lane Lane's utterly fascinating to me because I Think he knows he's got a pretty good team. I think he knows he's got a very good quarterback because we had Austin Simmons on the show.

Obviously, very impressive young man, but you can come off impressively in an interview and not be a great quarterback. What correlation do you think there is between those two things? I don't think there's any. I've met people who are fantastic on the mic, who in any social situation they can handle it, who are great with their teammates,

and then they just don't get it done on the field. And then there are guys who get it done on the field who are socially awkward and who aren't good at interviews or not necessarily great talking to their teammates, but just as soon as the lights come on, they're awesome. I think usually at quarterback, there needs to be leadership skills. There needs to be some sort of minimum level of communication. We were at big 12 and Devin Tamper was being really funny. Oh my God. And you're like Devin

Dan, here's going to win the Heisman. It's like, you know, he might be like really funny in this room, but I don't know if there's a correlation between, you know, being really funny and engaging and, you know. Well, didn't I say the same thing like when we recorded with Austin Simmons a few months ago, what did I say when he signed off? I was like, that kid's winning the Heisman. You know what this means more than anything? It means that at the end of the year, we should award the media Heisman Trophy. We should. Diego Pabbie is the leader in the clubhouse.

Yeah. The Heisman Trophy for the best personality or the best gift to the media in the sport. I mean, Lane Kiffin. Player wise, you can't give it to him. Okay. I was gonna say, cause Lane Kiffin might get the lifetime achievement award. Yeah. Because he was on a roll yesterday without even trying. That's the best part. The thing about Lane Kiffin that like kind of gets me is he's funny, his Twitter is good, he's like a youthful minded coach in the sense that he understands how to engage and, you know,

make the best out of social media because I don't think most coaches like know how to like exist in that cesspool of a website. And he does the thing. It's just like, I wish one day his team was actually the best because you imagine like if he would behave this way while also having a team that was like, I am glad you asked that because someone asked Lane Kiffin about his social media strategy and he said it has evolved as his team has changed.

You know, Chris Lowe asked me before, he's like, man, you seem really like quiet today, like, you know, no kind of like lines that you're giving people and stuff and I said you know some of that a lot of that was by design you know that I think that when you take a job and you're at a place where maybe it's been down a little bit and how kids are today like you've got to get out there you got to do things to be creative, to get your brand out there that are non-traditional.

Versus just, well, play really well. Well, yeah, okay, well, that takes a while to play really well and have the performance on the field. So it brings attention to your program. Recruits see it, parents see it. I get all the time with parents, whether I'm going there or whether they're coming to me, and like, I feel like I already know you because of your social media, like, we love it. I get all the time with parents, whether I'm going there or whether they're coming to me, and they're like, I feel like I already know you

because of your social media, like we love it. So there's a lot in there because of that kind of the stir in the pot stuff and things like that. And then I think you don't do quite as much once your program has got to a point where you are able, you do have national attention for your brand. I think where we are now compared to where we were five years ago.

But then there's still some little stuff in there that's just, I feel like I look at social media on a daily basis if I do things, just as a normal person. Like, hey, that's funny, so I retweet that. Just kind of like normal people do. And so, that part there's not a whole lot of thought into. Like, you know, somebody said, you know, like they put things on like phones,

like the silver thing where you got to blow in, like, you know, for your car keys and stuff. Like, you put that on your phone for social media, like just from a standpoint of like, hey, you have to wait five minutes. Like when you write a post, before you post it, you gotta wait five minutes, before you actually push send.

Because a lot of times I just, people send me stuff and I just hit the button and like retweet it, you know, because it's not that big a deal. I think there was a part of my life where I could have used the social media interlock device. That's interlock, I think that's the device, if you've got a DUI that they put in your car where you have to blow into to prove you're sober to actually use your car.

I could have used some of that on Twitter at times with responding to people. The one thing, oh man, Lane Kiffin is funnier on Twitter than he is in real life. Bingo. If you watched the nine minute Lane Kiffin, Paul Feinbaum interview yesterday, which is floating around on the internet because everybody loved it. If you watched it, it was really interesting because here's the thing,

I don't know Lane as well as I know Paul, but I've been around Lane a few times and have talked to enough people who know Lane. Lane and Paul Feinbaum are the same person. They are very much introverts who have very forward-facing jobs and have to perform in very public places. But Paul is also very-

That's why they get each other so well. Paul is very dry funny. Like I don't think people realize that about him. Like if you, and he says things in passing that most people probably miss that are quite funny if you like unpack it. I actually think that Paul Feinbaum is funny. And I don't know if anybody- He's hilarious. Had that before. I mean, or people Feinbaum is funny. And I don't know if anybody's ever said that before.

I mean, or people recognize him for being funny. And I think that there is a gift. Like I think that I am funny, but I think that I'm funny like off the cuff while talking. I couldn't go do standup. There's very different like fun ways. Like I think Lane Kiffin is very clever online. I don't know if I would consider him a funny person.

They had this whole spiel on the show about the odd couple. Paul was trying to explain the concept of the odd couple to Lane, who probably never watched it because he was busy playing football when he was growing up. But I don't know which one of them is Walter Mathau and which one is Jack Lemon. I guess Paul is Walter Mathow, but Paul is not a slob. Yeah, and if you go back to the genesis of it, because I didn't watch this whole clip, Andy,

but like Lane Kiffin, you know, went on a Paul Feinbaum appearance like six months ago or a year ago and like thanked him for his life because like Paul got him fired at Tennessee or USC, right? Yeah, exactly. The guy sucks and all that stuff and they've kind of like formed a friendship over it. But like, yeah, I like that. I have a really hard time with Lane Kiffin in deciding how great of a coach he is. It's a legitimate question. And I think he's gotten much better. I think there's been an evolution of Lane Kiffin because think about this.

He gets the Tennessee job. That's after the Raiders job. He was the Raiders head coach at, I want to say, 34 years old, which should not have happened. A young 34 too. Yeah. Yeah. He'll old, which should not have happened. A young for me. Yeah. Yeah. He'll tell you it shouldn't have happened. And then he gets fired. Like Al Davis had the overhead projector out and this is putting

transparencies on the overhead projector to explain why Lane Kiffin was fired and why all of a sudden, why Al Davis now thinks Lane Kiffin is a terrible coach. He did it's a Tennessee job. I actually think he did a few good things at Tennessee. He just obviously didn't stay to see it through because USC opened up and that's the job he really wanted. The Lane Kiffin who emerged from the Nick Saban rehabilitation program as FAU's head coach and then Ole Miss' head coach is a much better head coach than the Lane Kiffin who coached USC in Tennessee. Most ironic part about it is that I feel like 37 year old Lane would have been more successful if he got his first job now rather than in the era that he got it too, I think younger coaches are more prone or more happy. That's a good point.

Uh, in this era of college football, especially with like somewhat like the roster accumulation and in Recruiting is kind of somewhat out of their hands at you know some degree now If you go to the right place with some money who's willing to get you guys Like I think that Lane kiffin's personality and and desire to you know kind of stir it up You know to honor the name of the episode I think would play better now Taking the Tennessee job when he took it was an incredibly hard job. Taking the USC job when he took it was a pretty hard job.

You know, he was following Pete Carroll at USC. But that's like following, you know, following Urban Meyer at Ohio State, following Steve Spurrier at Florida, following, you know, name your legendary coach. But now I feel like he would be awesome at USC, which is funny because like the new lane, the edgy lane that is combined with a new mature Saban rehab lane, I think would do really well there. Um, and it kind of maybe as a bonus podcast, because this is, this podcast is a, is a living organism.

We never know where it's going to go. But if you had to build a football program or you had a football program that was B tier, like a team between 25 and 18, like Ole Miss has typically been and USC has been, starting today, which coach would you take? Lincoln Riley or Lane Kiffin? Lane Kiffin. Without even close. Right? Yeah. So, you know, and when you think about like how that's all kind of played out, if you would have asked this question six years ago, it would have been Lincoln Riley, no question.

And I don't know if that's just a rough spat for Lincoln Riley at USC or if Lane Kiffin is coming into his own. But on one hand, I have a heck of a lot of respect for what he just said at the podium, which is Ole Miss is a different place now than it was five years ago. But at the other hand, too, it's just like Lane Kiffin has also repeatedly lost all the big games. And he finally broke through.

Well, no, he won the Georgia game, but then- Yeah, last year he broke through and then he lost the game. The Florida game and the Kentucky game were the not big games that they lost. Now they got to fix that part of it. So do you think that Ole Miss's season last year was a epic failure or the next step in a progression that leads to greatness? Like I don't know, I have a hard time. They're both.

This is the SEC, Ari. Like when you didn't reach the goal you were supposed to reach, you failed. We don't grade on a curve here. But it also can be like like I'll give an example. Was was Georgia losing the 2018 and 2019 SEC Championship games and epic failure? Yes. Did it help Georgia get where it needed to go ultimately and win those

two national titles down the road? Yes, it had to happen to teach Kirby smart the lessons. Yeah, that got taught. You know, but you're still talking about SEC title and not making it there. Like I, last year, I think was a more of a failure on Ole Miss's part than those Georgia games.

Last year was a massive failure because the Kentucky game, there's no excuse for it. The Florida game, there's really no excuse for it because you, he would club Georgia. You had an open date. Like you had a week off while Florida was playing LSU. Like you should have won that game. There's no excuse for that.

Firmly believe this. And I don't know if this is going to make Ole Miss fans happy or sad. But if Ole Miss was playing peak football last year, like the Georgia game that we saw, and I think too that we were a little bit blinded by how thorough butt kicking that was because Georgia might not have been as good as, you know, our perceptions led us to believe at that time

on the calendar that Ole Miss could have won the national title last year. Like I think they were good enough. Like they had the roster, like peak Ole Miss against peak Ohio State would have been a fun game. Would have been really fun. Yeah, if Ohio State played Peak Ole Miss against peak Ohio State would have been a fun game. It would have been a really fun game. If Ohio State played the Ole Miss that showed up in that Georgia game that day, that would

have been a game. So I have a hard time with it, but also too, brand rehabilitation, and you and I, I think, differ on this, but brand rehabilitation and building and like wins that don't necessarily mean on the field, I think are just as important at times. Like Ole Miss is a different place than it was. So even in the face of the epic failure of last season, like Ole Miss is still better off now than when he found it, right?

And like I think you deserve a lot of credit for that. So like for me, I'm an ultra critical person at times. You know, if you've ever read a single column I've wrote, like I get after it sometimes, but I don't know, like if I were to give him a letter grade on his whole existence at Ole Miss, how I would grade that. It's confusing to me. I'd give him a B plus because he didn't make the playoff when he had the roster to make the playoff.

But the thing is sometimes the things don't happen in the year they're supposed to happen. Maybe this is one of those situations where it's gotta be the year after. Especially true for teams that have really good rosters year over year, but I don't think that we can live under the illusion that Ole Miss is just as good as they were last year from a talent perspective. They're not, right? I don't know that. Here's, and I'm glad you said that because this is what I wanted to get into.

Has Lane Kiffin not given us an indication that he's going to year over year, keep their talent level high? Like they went into the portal hard this year. The names were not as sexy as last year. And really Walter Nolan was the sexiest name last year. But I have a feeling that they are going to be one of the top third of the SEC in terms of talent. I'm not worried terms of talent. I'm not worried about their talent.

Like Deshaun Stribling was Oklahoma State's best receiver last year. He's at Ole Miss now. They got Arkansas's best tight end. Like they went and got some people that will help them. Yeah. A lot obviously on the quarterback, but I trust that they'll be OK. You look at the. The too deep and I think the difference

between last year and this year is, like you said, it's not as like overtly sexy like in the sense that they went out won the portal. Chris Paul when they got him from Arkansas. Yeah, it doesn't everybody like, oh my god, they got Chris Paul. They weren't, but he was incredible for them. I agree with you.

No, I'm with you. I think that the reason why we are somewhat not as because like Ole Miss was the topic of last offseason. If you remember, like we talked like Texas Tech this year. Yes, Texas Tech. The Ole Miss was Texas Tech last year. And Ole Miss also returned a lot of good players too, on top of what they brought in.

So, but I do also buy, and I think we've even had segments on the show talking about it, like what teams did really well in the portal or what teams are gonna be very good that aren't like getting the sexy headlines. And I think that Ole Miss would probably fall under that category because, you know, I think that Ole Miss would probably fall under that category because I think that we've also with the portal,

it's so exciting and it's so awe-inspiring of content that a lot of times it's like, oh, they just picked up the best tight end from Arkansas, but no one it's not a sexy five-star name. You lose track of it. But if they're a very productive player, the number of highly productive players that you need to be highly successful in this sport has gone down dramatically. Yeah, and if you've got five of those guys out of the portal, You've got five highly successful, productive players out of the portal and your quarterback is awesome. You have a chance to make the playoff anywhere.

And I think that's where Ole Miss is. Let's talk about one more thing Lane Kiffin said, because it goes with something we talked about yesterday. If you missed the emergency show yesterday, uh, you can find it on the on three YouTube page. You should be subscribed to that. So that whenever we go live, you get the push notification, but subscribe to the on three YouTube page, because when things happen, like Greg McElroy saying, I've heard that Nick Saban might be interested in coming back to coach. Well, we start talking about that.

Lane Kiffin got asked about that and he certainly did not pooh-pooh it. Cause like Greg, who was the one who kind of started all this, he said, I'm not sure this is going to happen. I don't think he's actually coming back to, to coach. And, and Paul Finebaum was like, I don't think he's actually coming back to coach. And Paul Finebaum's like, I don't think he's actually coming back to coach. Here's Lane. Way 31 reports today that Nick Saban might be interested in coming back to coaching. What would be your reaction if Nick Saban returned to the field?

I wouldn't be surprised. I kind of always thought that was gonna happen. I kind of always thought that was going to happen. I kind of thought it would happen after one year. But I say that just because even seeing recent stuff with him and talking to him on the phone, at first I have no knowledge that he's coming back. I don't think anybody does that. I just, he's so sharp still. I almost feel like it's a waste that he's not no disrespect to the media and what you guys do, but his ability to coach players and

Change lives in that and he's so good at it I just think he'll be back where that's NFL or college. I Lovely Just like let's throw some gasoline on the fire.O.R. Prolige. I love Lee. Just like, let's throw some gasoline on the fire. It's great. Yeah, I know gasoline. The thing that, you know, I love about that is that it's so true. With Nick Saban specifically, Andy. It's not like he's like Joe Paterno at the end of it.

You know what I mean? Like, he's not like a guy that doesn't have it anymore. Or Bobby, Bobby Bowden at the end. Yeah. Guys who maybe stayed in college four years too long. You know what I mean? Um, the thing that hurts is that greatness left at the peak of greatness. Maybe not the peak cause they hadn't won a national title,

but still had it in them. Whole three years. I know, but for him that was so bad. That was so bad for him. Yeah. You know the one stat that blows me away, and like, you know all the, like there was like an entire chapter

in the college football history books of like insane saving stats. Yeah. Every single player that he signed at Alabama who came in and stayed at least three years won a national title. It's amazing. I mean, do you think about that?

Man. And I don't think that there's anybody under the thought that he could not do it again. And so when he said it was a waste, that kind of hit me because it's like, I mean, I don't know, I wasn't old enough to realize this, but it almost felt like Jordan going to baseball. It's like, maybe not the same time arc,

because Jordan was in the middle of his career and Saban isn't, but like also too, somebody leaves their craft at a time in which they're still doing it at a high level. It's hard. Like a broad. Let me ask you, because I'm glad you brought the Jordan comparison because we can work with that. I think if Saban comes back, it's more of a Jordan wizards situation. Do you think a second time around the bull situation? No, because when he was with the Wizards and I'm not a NBA historian, so correct me if I'm wrong. There was when he was with the Wizards, and I'm not a NBA historian, so correct me if I'm wrong,

when he went to the Wizards, were people like, they're gonna win an NBA finals now? No, but he was a good player with the Wizards. Like, it wasn't Air Jordan, it was Fadeaway Jordan, and he was still good. Because I don't know if I buy that. I think that if Nick Saban took a job, especially in the SEC, that people,

the expectation would be that they would win the national title. So the Wizards thing is kind of like a, you know, what's the, an encore. You know? We talked about this yesterday, cause you fantasize like him going, you know, to a West Virginia or to a Toledo or something.

That I think is the fantasy. I don't think Nick Saban would actually do that. No, it would just be what I would want. Like if I could like create one adventure, I would put him somewhere atypical to see what the magic of his of his greatness could accomplish in a place that we otherwise have deemed as a non permanent non national championship contender, like Rich Rodriguez. By the way,

he's really funny. I really like him. We got to speak with him last week for. Yeah, you hadn't had a lot of a lot of casual time around. I haven't been around Rich Rod at all. He's hilarious aspect. He was really funny. I was like, wow, this guy's got it. We're under no illusion or delusion, I guess would be the better word

that he's going to win national title there. Right? Like there are no there are like how many of the power jobs are there? Like this is entertaining. We're going to talk about it, but you're never winning at all. Like 80%. Most of them. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. There isn't a single job in the power conferences of those 80% that are hopeless right now in terms of winning at all, that Saban wouldn't automatically turn into the 20% that could do it. Saltycock in the chat. Great name, by the way. Saban needs to stay on ESPN so they have someone who actually knows football.

Again, selfishly I do want him to stay on ESPN because he makes that show so much fun. And I actually like the dynamic between Saban and McAfee. I know there's a lot of people don't like McAfee. I enjoy McAfee. I understand what the assignment is for him and he does the assignment perfectly. Saban though is so sharp and understands the game so well. And what Saban does, and this is, I'm sure,

one of his superpowers is a coach. He takes what should be a fairly complicated concept that it would take a normal human being 10 minutes to explain to someone who didn't know anything about it. And he can distill it down and explain it to you in 30 seconds so that you understand it. I love that about him on TV. And I guarantee you that is what made him such a reason.

He was such a great coach. The reason why they work is because Saban is a person that when he opens his mouth about football, everybody automatically listens and believes it. And it's true because he's a great one. And like, I don't think people take Pat McAfee serious. I think he's kind of like the clown of the show, right? Like, is that fair? Which he understands and he's happy to play that role.

Yeah. So, he's there to bring the energy, he's there to have fun, he's there to antagonize the fans that are on site. Like, that's the job. He's the heir apparent to Lee, right? Like, that's the new Lee Corso? I think so. And we really haven't, I think we talked about it the day that they announced Corso's retirement, but yeah, I, cause we always said, you know, are they going to get another coat, former coach or somebody who's going to do something wacky, like put the heads on.

I think they have, they have the former coach in Saban. He's not going to do anything wacky. They have McAfee for the wacky parts. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. So I, I like me and you are so different. I also so in our in our view of Pat McAfee, you know, I think we both agree that he's very good at what he does, right? Like, you don't get to this point by not being good at what you do.

I think that Pat McAfee, if he never been a punter at West Virginia or in the NFL, still would have had a great, would have wound up with a show on TV and been really good at it. Yeah. I don't know if I enjoy him all that much. That's fine.

You don't need to. But don't we say that about our own show? Like there are people who we know are college football fans who consume tons of college football content that don't like our show because it's just not their thing. And then there are people who love our show who don't like other shows for the same reason. And I'm, I'm the first to admit that I'm not for everyone, you know? So, yeah, you know, and that's okay.

And I think that you can simultaneously respect somebody and what they've done while also like, I don't like listen to his show. I'll give you a good example. I was, when I was in college, I had a guy work with at the school newspaper, loved Jim Rome, like listen to Jim Rome religiously every day. I don't think he was ever a Jim Rome caller, but would have been a perfect Jim Rome caller. And the show as constructed at the time was not for me. I ended up doing Jim Rome's show a few times and I still do it to this day. Jim Rome is the most professional, prepared, like he is first class all the way.

And you understand when you get around him how he built this media empire that he has. Even if the show is not necessarily in your wheelhouse, you can appreciate that somebody gets it and does a great job. And I think that's what McAfee's done. You and I do a YouTube show every day. We can see how many people are watching on YouTube right now. It ain't as many as Pat McAfee gets.

He has like 50,000 watching at a time. Do you know how much money that's worth? It's insane. No, I'm aware. Yeah. No. And it's a, it's a, it's a dream. Uh, and I hope that one day we, we, we reached levels that are even half of that.

But. You know, back to Sabin. I think he's where he should be right now, but I do agree with Lane in that it feels like to use his word a waste that he's not still doing it. Land in the chat. Are you all going to talk about LSU or not? Yes, we are going to talk about LSU because Brian Kelly and Garrett Nussmeyer and company Whit Weeks, they were at SEC media days yesterday and. And Kelly seems like he's in a good place. I think he's very excited about this team. I think he's very happy with this

roster. I think he understands they have a major challenge in front of them. Game one and. I was fascinated to hear him talk about that game against Clemson. A great deal of respect for Clemson. I think that that is a given because of my background playing Clemson as an ACC team. So I have great respect for Dabo and what he's built in the championships. But at the end of the day, our feeling

is this is a goal of ours. This is one of our tangible goals that we have put out in front that we want to start the season one and oh, it's important to us. And so our offseason training is been about that. It's about going one one and oh and playing a great program. And we're excited about the challenge. It's going to be difficult, but look, I don't think you set realistic goals unless they're difficult.

This will be a difficult challenge for us, but one that we're excited about and one that we're focused on with great intent. This is perfect because it's your first game. So you can always say that. Yeah, he's no, no. Listen, we might get the fist on the table if they lose to Clemson,

but you can say all that stuff when it's your first game because you're not violating the rules of coach speak. It is the next game in front of you, but it's such a psychologically heavier thing at LSU because they've lost the last five like, and the losing streak predates Brian Kelly, like it's not his fault. They've lost the last five. He was the coach for the last three. So those are his fault. But this would be the most understandable season opening

loss that they've had during the stretch. Like 100% out it like all the games that they lost, unless I'm forgetting one Andy, did they play a team that was a legitimate top five team at any point during that five game losing streak? Florida State, the year that Florida State went 13-0. Okay, that's right.

And that was a good game, right? That was a really good game for my team. LSU was in it for a half and then Florida State sort of turned on the afterburners in the second half. Yeah, in the second half. But no, LSU was winning in the first half, if I recall. Yeah.

Jared, Jared verse really wrecked LSU that day. You know, the, um, this is the quintessential whoever loses freakout game for sure. I think. Agreed. Also, I think that while whoever wins this game is gonna have a nice playoff feather in their cap, I think both teams are gonna be in the national conversation for the playoff in November, regardless of what happens.

So like the Brian Kelly thing is also interesting in the same way that the Lane Kiffin thing is, in that like he has been one of the most consistently winning coaches in college football for you know 15 years. But I don't think people view him like from a like fan perspective if you did like a poll as one of the 10 best coaches in college football and I don't know I think Marcus Freeman has had something to do with that too, because Brian, like it's all interconnected. Brian Kelly leaves Notre Dame and his stated goal for leaving Notre Dame is, is.

I can go to LSU and actually win national titles. And we, we looked at that and we said, okay, you've been doing great at Notre Dame, you did better than anybody in Notre Dame since Lou Holtz. When you got at that level with Notre Dame, you guys didn't have the rosters to compete. Well, we saw Marcus Freeman get to that level and he did have a roster capable of competing. Like Notre Dame beating Georgia in the Sugar Bowl told you all you need to know. And those Notre Dame fans are like, I don't know if we could have done that in the Brian Kelly era. So now Brian Kelly at LSU with the access

to talent has to do that. It's the easiest thing to say that I don't know if we could have done under Brian Kelly, but like the context of that too is deeper than he said they couldn't do it and then they did it. Like the sport also evolved. The sport changed too. But there's still no excuse to not do it at LSU. Right. That's the thing. It's like, I think that Brian Kelly did a phenomenal job at Notre Dame. And I don't think that Notre Dame's recent success takes away from what he did there. I think in the era in which he coached there, they did quite well. In fact, I made it two times. Like, what do you, I know that they, but they didn't beat peak Bama. Oh, God. I'm telling you right now, if you're an LSU fan and he hasn't

taken you to the playoff yet, but this is Freeman took Notre Dame to the national title game that bugs you know, and it should but it bugs you because LSU is LSU. It doesn't diminish what he did at Notre Dame. That's my only point like I think that like diminishing the past because of recent. Oh, I'm not. Yeah, no, I'm not criticizing anything he did at Notre Dame. I am saying if you're an LSU fan, you're looking at that and going, wait, wait, wait, wait, you came here to do that.

We have a better setup to do that than anybody. We won three national titles this century. Buddy, if he would have won three national titles this century. Buddy, if he would have won three national titles at Notre Dame, this is unacceptable. You know, like this. Cause it's LSU. Yeah, this is LSU.

Cause you're supposed to win national titles at LSU. The last three coaches at LSU have won national titles. Andy, I was the one starting the bus up on the hot seat talk a year ago until you told me that his buyout was too expensive. It's true. His buyout is enormous. It doesn't really matter what he does this year, but I will tell you, if he goes eight and four this year, the LSU fans are going to go crazy.

So they need more than that. But I think he's, he's feeling good about this team. He's feeling good about this roster. I think it starts with the quarterback. They get their Garrett Nussmeyer back. Here's BK on Garrett Nussmeyer and I think you'll see why one reason why he's so comfortable with his roster. He represents LSU. He represents the state of Louisiana. I mean, he is our guy. I mean, he's waited for this opportunity. He loves LSU. And so you you want to follow a

guy like that because he's got all the things that you're looking for in a player, committed, passionate, focused. He's got leadership ability and he can whip the ball around the yard when you need to. Now the thing that he brings to the table, as I said, in many of these settings, experience is the best teacher and he's got experience and he's got some adversity that he had to overcome along the way. I will take that kind of

quarterback anytime in the SEC because when you go on the road when you start with Death Valley, you bring a freshman in Death Valley, you better you better be ready for the backup to get in there too. That's my point is that experience and a guy that has the traits that represent LSU is our starting quarterback. How cool is that? Yeah, he's pretty excited.

Absolutely excited. And I don't blame him because well, first of all, the last two quarterbacks who've gone from year one to year two as the starter LSU won the Heisman in year two. It's kind of up to BK about what talent did he put around Garrett Nesmeyer because with Jaden Daniels, he also had two first round receivers that year. But I feel like this is the best roster Kelly's had since that first year at LSU. I think he inherited a pretty nice roster from Edward's run. I know everybody's like, ah, the numbers were down. The players were very good. And then they went and got Jayden Daniels. Yeah, this is a, this is a roster that can compete for sure.

And I look at this schedule and I think it's actually quite favorable in comparison to some of the other ones. Yeah, the one. Okay, so we agree on the Clemson game. Everybody's going to freak out about the result. Fact of the matter is the team that loses that game is not out of anything, but that LSU Florida game is going to be massive for both teams.

But you would rather be three and one heading into Ole Miss with a loss to Clemson than three and one heading into Ole Miss with a loss to Florida. Correct, correct. Because Ole Miss in South Carolina back to back is no easy feat. So you gotta go to Ole Miss, South Carolina comes to you. Like, yeah, you wanna have one and O in the SEC

next to your name when you go to Oxford. Yeah. Because if you go O and two, you drop to O and two in the SEC at that point, which is possible given what we've seen with Ole Miss, you got a problem. You have a massive, massive problem. Then South Carolina, Texas A&M, Alabama,

like all become must-wins. Yeah. I think a lot in the SEC is, we talked about this, but I think the SEC is going to be, a lot of things are gonna be determined in this conference by how good South Carolina and A&M actually are. Because they land in very critical places that, and you've made this point about A&M, but I think the point also stands with South Carolina. We've been talking all year about how it's a big game on everyone's schedule. If it turns out that it's not, I don't know why it would, but if it turns out that they're just like normal South Carolina or you know, six and six South Carolina then that changes

That the dynamic for a lot of different coaches and even Florida game is gonna be at night It is at night It's already scheduled. So it's a night. I'm just like selfishly trying to finagle my way to Tigers To bat Rouge to death valley. I mean you you get there. It's easy. I know it's a drive there. I want to drive there. Yeah, I just I've never been to a game and I would want it. My first one to be at night so if they beat Clemson. Even if they don't be Clemson,

but if they do be Clemson, that game is going to be. Off the hook, it is going to be a wild atmosphere. Going into the game. I think we should try to go to that. Okay. I know that you don't love going to Florida road games because there's right down the street from you,

but like it's awesome. Well, I love going to Baton Rouge at any time. And I got some tailgaters that I can hook you up with. Chimes. Have you been there? I've been to the chimes. Yes. Yeah. They've got a lot of my fit on the menu. We're going to go, we're going to go to the Chimes, yes. Yeah, they've got a lot of my fit on the menu. We're going to go to the tail.

Zach, Raul and his tailgating crew. We're going to call them up. Yeah, I don't know. There's no restaurant that competes with the spread they put out. I would love what is on the spread. Is that a curiosity? It varies by week and varies by opponent. Is it like themed based on where their opponents from or something? Sometimes, sometimes Zach just wants to do a different theme. He wants

to mix things up. Can you tell me some of the themes like you're like teasing him? He'll do your traditional Louisiana favorites sometimes. He'll do you know jambalaya, red beans and rice, that sort of thing. But he'll do, he does pull pork a lot. He will do, he'll do different themes based on what different games. And it's funny, we've been on a football podcast for five years now, and I've never asked you this, Andy. What is your preferred tailgate food? Oh, I don't have a preferred one. I'll take anything. Like, what do you think hits the best? I think something you can actually stuff you have to eat off a plate is hard when you're standing up. So I do like something you can make into a sandwich.

So pulled pork is a great tailgate food because you can you can put that into a sandwich and so as a tailgate main course pull port might be my I think my number one I think mine is just a a really good brat yeah that's a northern thing I like brats too they don't do they don't do brats in the south of tailgates they do but they they'd rather do barbecue they'd rather do barbecue. They'd rather do. Yeah, there's some, there's some dudes that make some great wings. Yeah. At tailgate. Good bird. And also a pretty good.

Yeah. You got to grill and get some fresh burgers with a potato bun. Oh, talk dirty to me. Yeah. So we will. And if we didn't have going to that game, there will be plenty of people cooking gator. So you'll get your fill of gator tail.

I've never eaten Gator before. You're not missing much. What does it taste like chicken? Yeah. Most of the restaurants in Gainesville have Gator on the menu. Like a lot of the just, you know, wide array of menu options, restaurants, they have Gator as an appetizer. It's fine. There is nothing better than, and like maybe it doesn't, it does get chilly in the south in the winter, but like there's nothing better than, and like maybe it doesn't, it does get chilly in the south in the winter, but like there's nothing better than a fresh broth off the grill when it's freezing outside. Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't know how that feels because I live where it's warm. I know, but you've been in the cold before. No. I know where you live, but you've been in the cold. I'm just rubbing it in because I don't ever have to deal with that.

But like it's just, it's the perfect thing to hold in your hand. And like a good grilled brat is like maybe one of my five favorite foods in general. Where are you there? Ice pulled pork sandwich. That's all I need. I'll take, I'll take a rare dub. Where'd we go? I don't know what happened. I'll take a rare dub. Where'd we go?

I don't know what happened. We left for a minute. We disappeared in the transfer portal. It's like, hey Ari, don't press buttons while live that you don't know what they do. You know, I don't know what the next segment is, Andy. Do you still have more Brian Kelly? Don't you? Well, I think Brian Kelly brings us to our next topic. Okay,

before we get the next topic, I want to tell you something that I can't stop thinking about. Go for it. It's not the ticket master. We'll do that at the end if we have time. Okay, I played a game of NCAA football online yesterday. And I was in the you know, I always look at the screen names of my opponents because I'm like fascinated by some people's are funny. Like one would show me your TDs. I thought that was funny. But I played against a guy named King of Condoms.

And I'm thinking to myself, and I thought to myself, and I try to ask him like over the mic and he didn't have his mic on. But like, how does one become the King of Condoms? Like you're not the King of Sex. You're the King of Condoms. And I just like, does he sell them as like, because there's a there's a chain of stores that they put them in vacation towns called sock city where they sell a lot of different kinds of socks. Like, does the king of condoms sell a variety of condoms?

Like, like the only thing that would be acceptable to me is if he like is an investor or a works at like a condom company or like is like produces latex or something. But like I just like I for whatever reason do you have things that like you see during the day that just stick in your brain for whatever reason? All the time. Yeah like it's like I've been thinking about this for 24 hours. Yeah because you want to know how that nickname came into existence. It's not a flex to be a king of condoms. He's not Abe Froman, the sausage king of Chicago. But then again,

maybe he is. But like if you are like a king of like ladies or a ladies man or whatever it is that you're into, and you get a lot of ass, you would be the king of ass. Like being the king of condom. Yes, man, like in Seinfeld. I don't like I've been a proctologist. I feel like I would just love to know why that okay, we can go on to the next thing. But the king of condoms is a very strange name to me. Well, maybe maybe King of condoms watches the show. Maybe maybe we can get an explanation

of condoms. And like if you're playing NCAA online, there's a like, there's a good chance. Listen to the show and I did play another person. I don't remember their screen name, but this guy absolutely cooked me and like I'm like 29 and five online, but this guy beat the ever-loving crap out of me and he was picking apart my office, my defense and he was explaining why my defense was wrong. And I'm like, what are you like some sort of failed college football player? And he goes, uh, I'm actually a current one.

And, uh, he gets, he played some DT. I found them on Twitter. Uh, and we follow each other now. Like that guy was really good. Uh, so if you're listening, what conference is he playing? I'm trying to remember what I'll figure it out. He plays at Louisiana. He plays in Louisiana somewhere.

So like an FCS school Louisiana, like Nicholls State or Southeast Louisiana or something. Let me find it. I'm sorry. Louisiana. What's LCU? It's in the AI AI.

Oh, well, it's a AI AI. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. All right. Got it. All right. All right.

All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. What's LCU? It's in the AIAI. Oh, well, AIA, LCU. In AIA, okay, okay. Gotcha. All right, got it. All right, Ari. Louisiana Christian.

That's what I was guessing. Yeah. It's usually what the C means. Cooked me, okay. Louisiana Cooking Ari University. He was LSU. And I was like, well, by the end of the game,

because I was kind of like felt bad calling him a failed college player. Because there are a lot of like college players you might be a very successful college player there are a lot of college players or former college players that play NCAA who are very good because they understand like coverages in a way that we don't we just look at the bubble and it's like oh there's supposed to be somebody in that area they like know how to part that based on like watching film um being good at NCAA football, if you played college football, even if you were a bad player, like that helps. But like, I say mean things to people on the mic because I'm that guy. I try to get in their heads and like make them feel bad. And I like actually

felt bad because I said, what are you a failed college player? And then he said, no, I'm actually a current college player. And I said, where do you play? Because I like thought, well, what if I'm playing somebody from like Georgia or something? Like, I don't know who I'm actually a current college player. And I said, where do you play? Because I thought, well, what if I'm playing somebody from Georgia or something? I don't know who I'm playing. It's possible. You could be playing Ryan Williams. But Ryan Williams would have been talking smack to you

constantly. But then he said, I'm not even going to tell you because it's not in the video game, and you're going to make fun of me. And I felt bad about that. And I was like, I'm not going to make fun of you. And I said, if you are good enough to play college football anywhere,

you're one of the best college players, or you're one of the best football players in the world. I'm not gonna make fun of you. And then we became friends. But like I felt bad because like I didn't want to make like the minute it's funny after I took my son to his first couple camps. I was like, you're never gonna let your friends say some

college player stinks. Again, are you? He's like, nope. No, nobody stinks. Yeah, he's like, nope. He's like, cuz I realize now I see how good you have to be to even get on any of these rosters. Like, nope.

And I like, now I'm following him on Twitter and like maybe he'll be able to, you know, get it in the transfer portable. He was using LSU and I thought that was kind of like a cool way of like, hey, this is his dream maybe to go to LSU. And now we're talking about LSU and this is what made me think about the game. So, all right, let's back to Brian Kelly briefly. Brian Kelly is going to probably get some new fans

in the next month or so, because he's going to be one of the breakout stars of this Netflix SEC show. So the trailer dropped yesterday. Let's just show the trailer, River. Now, there's a little boy. Teachers would ask, what do you want to be when you grow up? I'd say college football player. The SEC is the greatest place in the world to play college football.

The SEC teams are winning the national championship. There's such small towns. Maybe there's 30,000. But then you pull up to the stadium, and there's 30,000. But then you pull up to the stadium and there's 90,000 people. If you play Linnissi, you will walk into the line. Every kid in this state grew up dreaming of playing for one of the universities. Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, all these teams are wrapped in the fabric of those communities. I have my life, mortgage, and everything associated with these 18 to 21 year olds.

What am I, crazy? Each game feels like a SuperWolf for these things. It's a brotherhood here. You pitch your ass off and finish! Finish! Take what you want. How crazy was that event? My first Florida game. It's a real moment. There's been a lot of expectations.

Garrett Nussmeyer is gonna have a draft decision to make. I don't really know what the future is. The way Diego approaches his work inspired me. The only place in the SEC that's not hard to play is Vanderbilt. I heard that. That fuels me. Whenever something feels bad, I can either feel sorry for myself or I can embrace it, attack it. I still got a job to do. This is the biggest game in a generation. One huge win can change your life. This is my last chance and I won't be denied.

So there was a very handsome voice in that that trailer Ari. Yeah, Paul Paul Finebaum has a good voice too. He's a lovely voice. Yeah, that's not what we're talking about. What do you mean? You didn't you didn't notice anybody familiar in the trailer? Oh, your voice. Oh, yeah, there it is. I think you're going to be in it too though. I'm not. It's okay. No, I

actually have a very good idea of maybe some clips from this show that might have made the show. When you say clips from the show that made the show, how long are the clips you think? Like I don't know that part. I don't know, but I do know that we gave our friends at Box2Box, which is the company that's, that's making this series, we gave them access to our entire Google drive of all of our shows to take whatever they needed. So yeah, that's what everybody always says.

I'm writing your coattails to success. And as I am, I grabbed on real tight to the back of your coat. This is going to be a fun show because they did get some really good access. I, I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to say, I, they, they, they showed the full first episode to some of the media members in Atlanta last night. So I got a little bit of a sense of how it's going to work. I'm in it a little bit. I did shoot for it a few times.

So it's not just the voiceover, but it's very interesting who's in it and who comes off really good. I think Brian Kelly is going to come off great. I think people are going to love Diego Pavia. I think people are going to love Diego Pavia. I think people are going to love Shane Beamer. Yeah, the thing that I've noticed in this job more than anything is that when you meet these people in person, it's like it's

very rare that I've met a coach that I like. I hate that guy or that guy's an asshole. Like I think that like the online press conference, you know, post game interview persona of certain people, most of the time doesn't match their actual aura as a human. Like I think Dabo Sweeney is the perfect example of that. Like everybody loves to hate Dabo. But like I feel like everybody who hates him, if they spent 20 minutes with him would like like him as a human. I would love it. Yeah.

Well, and I think this will be interesting because it does take you behind the curtain that they've got some great inside access for some of the bigger games from last season. And so I can't wait to see because I don't know exactly what order it's going to go in. I don't know exactly what they chose to use, but it's going to be a lot of fun. It's gonna be fun to watch. So I do remember, because the Netflix thing changes things. Like my wife sent the trailer out to her whole family because I told her don't tell anybody about any of this because they're pretty secretive.

And so the trailer drops yesterday, my wife sends it out to the whole family. And like, they're all like, oh my, these are people who, they don't care at all what I do day to day. But if you're on something on Netflix, like it's, that's- You're in, yeah. No, you've won.

You've made it, Mandy. Don't let anybody ever tell you that you've won. But it was funny, because I remember talking to one of the guys and I said, what's the dress code for this? Like, do you need to wear a suit? Is it casual? Said, kind of what you'd wear on your show.

Just, you know, remember that 50 million people may see it. And I was like, okay, all right. What'd you go with? I went with a Buck Mason Navy Cardigan, which- Oh, the one that I encourage you to buy. Yes, the one you made me buy, yes. And the day I did it, it was January and it was weather appropriate, but I

ended up having to shoot two more times and you have to wear the same thing. So two weeks ago, it was not weather appropriate, but I did have to wear it two weeks ago. That's funny. Uh, I would have worn this. He was gone. Air Jordan hoodie. And I just, yeah.

Well, they said it, what you wear on the show. It's like what black t-shirt or a hoodie of some sort. It was really cold in our house last night. I don't know why I'm wearing a hoodie cause it's summertime, but I'm happy for you and I can't wait to watch it. Well, it's gonna be fun. I'm interested to see how people react to this

because it's the same company that made the Formula One show, Drive to Survive and the full swing golf show. People love those. People love those. People love those shows. And it's weird because we do this with the Untold documentaries. I remember reviewing the Connor Stallions one.

The Untold is a different company. But I remember reviewing that one and thinking, I don't know how much of, they're telling me that I don't already know. But my wife was watching the same time I was and she was fascinated. She's asking me all these questions and like, oh, oh, oh, I'm not the audience. She's the audience. Right. Which is why I think I've not liked most of the untold. Like, watch the, is the Favre one they've put out an untold.

I haven't watched that one. I will say non-sports division. I watched the, the one on Rob Ford, the mayor of Toronto, the, that one, I think they call it train wreck is the series and they had the one on the poop cruise and all that cruise one. I'm sure if I covered politics in Canada that I would not, I'd find holes to pick in the Rob Ford one, but I was sucked into that one completely. I was like, this is amazing. I just feel like with the untold ones, for the most part they don't tell anything

that hasn't been told already, which bothers me. It's like, but like untold maybe to people who don't know anything about it, but like I watched the Brett Favre one. It's like, but like untold maybe to people who don't know anything about it. But like I watched the Brett Favre one. It's like, oh yeah, he's just come back. I knew all this and then it was over. Right. We knew all that stuff, but I don't think the average person knows all of that stuff. And so the untold person, the Florida one remained untold. The one that the one that actually had a lot of the story that people were interested in, who like know about college football,

were like hoping that Florida would like blow the cover off and like all the crazy stuff that happened in Gainesville during Urban Myers reign. It's like, oh, okay, well, they didn't even mention some of the most interesting people in the entire. I can tell you right now, someone who's heard all those rumors and tried to track them down,

very hard to prove anything. Yeah, yeah. And maybe they're not true. I don't know. But like, Florida's Untold was just a review of like what we knew about Florida. You know, I thought that was annoying. If you weren't really watching college football at that time, or you're just more of a casual fan, that stuff was all new to you. It was really interesting. I will say, like knowing some of what the Netflix folks got the, for the SEC show, there's a lot of stuff

or even if you watch the game, you didn't see, you haven't seen this stuff yet. Yeah. So I'm gonna watch it cover to cover as you know. Is that the way? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're dropping it at the perfect time. August 5th is the perfect time. August 5 is the perfect time because people are

dying for football stuff at that point. Dying. I'm gonna watch it with my wife. So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna tell her there's a really special person in this. And it's you. No, it won't be me. It will be you. I'll promise. It's okay. There will be clips of this show. You but you're in it. It will be you. I'll promise, it's okay. There will be clips of this show.

And you're in it. But you are, you're the guy. Let's not lose track of that. Well, I think we had next year, you know, if they run it back, maybe we just demand to be done. I mean, like, truthfully speaking, like, it's an SEC show. Like, you live in the South

and know more about the SEC than anybody. Like, I'm not an SEC. And you're a big tenor. Yes, like, if you're a big tenor. Yes. Like if you're a big ten one, maybe I could be on it. I think I'm sure we just demand we just demand that we're interviewed in tandem. I'm just curious from from a from my perspective, and I don't know if the listeners care to know the answer to this, but I do.

So you're going to come along for the ride. Okay. Did they ask you anything that I couldn't have answered? I think you would have been fine with all of it. Okay, so they didn't like get into the nitty gritty of like. There was some nitty gritty stuff, like the Florida stuff, obviously we went deep into what happened last year.

And a lot of that stuff I had to write stories about and report on. So, you know, I happened to have a pretty deep, you know, a much deeper well of knowledge on that than some of the other stuff. But I don't think you would have had any problem with any of it. Yeah, if they would have asked me about Florida,

I'd have been like, yeah, I was in Madison, Wisconsin for the Alabama, Wisconsin thing. Watching Andy right in the back saying, you're just gonna get fired. Which turned out to be wrong. Watching Andy running around. You're going to get fired. Napier getting fired. Yeah, yeah, I remember that like it was yesterday, but I wasn't the you know, I think they got the appropriate person from the show to talk about the SEC. Well, I think this is going to be really interesting to see how I want to see how

it lands. I want to see if it lands like the F1 show and the golf show. Because the F1 show is probably their biggest hit, but I think what's interesting about that is it did really well in America, and F1 is not obscene and popular. Yeah, I actually think too that if you're serving an audience, because I don't know anything about F1,

and I've thought about watching it just because I thought it would be interesting. Oh, it's a great show, because I think it'd be interesting. Oh, it's, it's a great show. Cause I think that the, like the people, the drivers and the, the team principles they're called, which is basically the coach, like they are bitchy, like they are sniping at each other. I don't, I don't think like, I would love it. And if you've had a college football show where all the coaches really gave you

unfiltered sniping on the record, but they're not going to do that. We're just never going to get that. Yeah. So, but we got one more topic today. We talked SEC quarterbacks yesterday. My list of top 10 big 10 quarterbacks dropped today. So this was a different.

So this show's gonna be an hour and a half then. Yeah, we don't, I mean, we talked about it a little bit yesterday. We don't need to, we won't need to do a whole half hour on it, but we do need to talk about this. And also it doesn't need to be all SEC this week. Like there are other leagues, so. We've been accused of being a SEC show.

And this week that should be appropriate because it's SEC media days. And the next week will be a big 10 show. And we did a lot of. We're gonna be very big 10 heavy next week. We were very big 12 heavy last week. Like, yeah. We're making the rounds here,

but I do appreciate a little big 10 flavor to end the show. So let's get into it. Well, this was a much different kind of list because the big 10 this year is kind of where the SEC was last year, where there's a lot of unproven quarterbacks and you don't really know what they're going to be. So this would be like trying to rank Lenora Sellers going into his year last year going, you know, DJ Lagway going to his year last year, even though he wasn't the starter. So we don't know where and Ari's looking at the list and now he's

just like, yeah, yeah. Cause I haven't looked at the list yet. I wanted to be surprised by it on the show and I'm like percolating right now. Like I have, I have a lot of, okay. For the, for the folks on the podcast that don't have the visual number one is Drew Aller from Penn State. Number two is Luke Altmeyer from Illinois. Number three.

I'm sure this is one that caught Ari's eye Fernando Mendoza from Indiana. No, it didn't. Number four, Nico Iamali Abba from UCLA. Number five, Dante Moore from Oregon. Number six, Dylan Raiola from Nebraska. Here's, here's where I think Ari is going to get a little saucy. Number seven, Julian saying from Ohio state number eight, Bryce Underwood from Michigan.

Number nine, Lamon Williams, Jr. From Washington and number 10, Mark Renovsky from Iowa. All right, Ari go. Okay. First of all, has anybody talked shit to you about the Ohio state Michigan situation here? Cause of course. Okay.

Are they freaking out? Explain, I'm going to break this to you, but everybody on the internet thinks the list is wrong. No, I know, but explain the calculus between those two unproven guys at rival schools. One is throwing to Jeremiah Smith and one's not. Okay. And one is a year older.

Yeah. Yep. The thing that I am loving about this list is that like when you did the SEC list, I was like, okay. Yeah. I mean, I think they're all generally in the right places. Like this has a high likelihood of just being completely wrong at the end of the year. Of course, because like if Bryce Underwood is as amazing as we thought, but we've

not seen him play a snap, then he might be number one by the end of this. I think that it's conceivable that seven, eight, nine or 10 could be one by the end of the year. Entirely possible. Which I'm not sure was the case in the SEC. So that'd be Julian Sain, Bryce Underwood, Daman Williams Jr., Mark Grunowski. Like what if Mark Grunowski is just completely electric at Iowa? Like I think that that is on the table. They're on the, and that's the thing. If, so Mark Grunowski, for those who don't know, came to Iowa from South Dakota State. He's the 2023 Walter Payton award winner. So basically the FCS Heisman.

He played another year at South Dakota State, even though there's a ton of interest in getting him into the FBS. He was banged up in this spring. So we don't really know what he's going to be yet, but he's a dual threat guy. Very possible. This is the most competent quarterback play Iowa has had in a long time. What about electric Iowa play? Could you imagine like dropping a player like Johnny

Menzel into Iowa city? Well, like Brad banks. Yeah. But like, yeah. So like modern day, Iowa is what I mean. Yeah. They're a playoff team. If that happens, they're a playoff team. Yeah, this list is

right. I think right now. But nobody would get it right. Right because we don't know. We don't know how good Dante Moore is going to be. We don't know how what kind of jump Dylan Raiola might take. We do not know what Julian saying is and we don't know what Bryce Underwood is yet. With Julian saying- You know what the Mon Williams is yet? I got a pretty good idea if there's last two games.

Well, I'm saying like if that's who the last two games are him, then nine is absurdly low. Well, they still lost those last two games too. I know, so like they're gonna be much better as a team, I think. This is a very good quarterback season. Like this season, I think this is the highest. This might be the most star studded or most exciting quarterback season of my career.

Well, and what's interesting about it is the Big 10 does not have the established ones. The SEC and the big 12 have a lot of established ones. The ACC has some. Drew Aller is the most established guy in the big 10. Luke Altmeyer, I get people who love him. I get people who hate him. Ariel Jarrell, this list doesn't

even include Jayden Mayaba. No, because. I'm not sure Jade mom is going to wind up starting at USC by the end of the season. Because who's on Long Street might be that guy who would have been who would have thought? That at this point in the Lincoln

Riley era at USC that you would do a list of top 10 quarterbacks in the big 10 and that his quarterback wouldn't be anywhere on the list, but you would have representatives from Nebraska, Indiana, Illinois, and Iowa on it. It's crazy, but it's also that Lincoln Riley has a freshman who might be the dude and we don't know. We don't know if he's going to be conceivable that a player that's not on the list or even set the start could be

on this list by the end of the year. Yeah, yeah. So Fernando Mendoza is one that the sickos who are diehards for this show know all about Fernando Mendoza because you watched Cal games last year. He was great. His teammates around him, like the supporting cast was not good. Jay not was hurt a lot of the year. Like Fernando Mendoza is a really good quarterback and he got put with a bunch of talent around him. Indiana brings back

a lot. And he could have been a quarterback at a power school, like a, like not a power conference school, but like an elite Georgia wanted him. Yeah. So, yeah, this is a, this is an insane list and a, just a reminder or a reinforcement of how deep the quarterback position is. Like, I don't even know what you're doing. The big 12 and the ACC, but the big 12 is going to be a nightmare for you. The big 12 is really tough because there's, there's so many experienced starters coming back.

ACC is, is a little bit easier, but I think the big 10 is the hardest one because you don't really know what you're going to get out of Moore and Saen and Under. Like Saen, I feel very confident. If Saen is adequate, their offense is good because Jeremiah Smith and Colonel Taylor are there. I put Nico in the spring and my top 10 quarterbacks in the country. I know. Right River? I know. Yeah. I remember that I didn't and I remember some Tennessee fans being really mad one day and then suddenly the next day, not so mad.

Rivers the perfect case study for the fan psyche because he was like, hell yeah Ari and like now it's like, okay. Here's the thing about Nico though. Nico was, was good, but not great as Tennessee starting quarterback last year. If he'd been able to hit deep balls, they're much better team. His stats are much better. Like he had, he had pretty decent stats. He took care of the ball.

He only threw five interceptions to 19 touchdowns, but I'm going to say you average 7.9 yards per attempt. Like you want that number to be closer to nine. I have 10 would be even better, but if he hits some deep balls, then it does get up there. And I, and I think the nitpick though. Yeah. Nitpick.

What did it pick your list? Cause like, as we're talking about it, there are certain things that are, are standing out now. Sure. And like, maybe this was just like me being overly nitpicky, but if you ranked Julian sand ahead of Bryce Underwood because of players around him and like the fact that he will be just productive by default no matter what Then do you nag Nico a little bit more than you did for being a team that doesn't have much star power?

Well, but that's I'm nagging Bryce Underwood Because they don't have the receiving core that that a lot of these other teams do I know but UCLA doesn't either So you just so you're making a statement that you think Nico could be pretty good, because Nico's not going to have to play as many good defenses as he played. He'll have to play some, but it won't be as bad of a schedule as he played last year. Do you think it's possible that Nico is a Heisman candidate in the end of October?

I'm not sure about that. Look at the schedule. Utah is a tough opener. Utah is going to be tough. But it's pretty manageable till you get to Indiana. How does that happen? The schedule is brutal. That's a sneaky good game on a day that has a ton of good games.

Wait, no, is that is the 30th of the Saturday or is 30th of Friday? It's the Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. That's a sneaky good game and a sea of really good games. Yeah, that's a great like let's let's throw the three sneaky. Great first weekend games out. It's UCLA, Utah.

It's Auburn Baylor on Friday night. And it's Colorado Georgia Tech, which I think maybe Thursday. Yeah. Is Virginia Tech South Carolina anything to Sunday? That's Sunday afternoon. It's Sunday, OK, it's our preview for Notre Dame. Remember Notre Dame, Miami Sunday night. Tennessee cues. You don't don't fist pump River because you're not going to like what I said.

Tennessee cues might be one of the more interesting games of the day when the day is over because Tennessee is on the ropes like at some point like is it and we don't know what Tennessee's gonna look like at all we also are kind of confused about what Syracuse is gonna look like yeah yeah like because remember remember at first Fran Brown said oh we've named our quarterback and then Steve Angelli is supportive like oh we and then Steve Angelli has supported like, oh, I'll take Steve Angelli, sure.

Yeah, I don't know that I'm like buying the Steve Angelli hype to the sense that he's gonna like turn into like Kyle McCord or I mean, I don't know if he's gonna start. I just, I just know they, they took him after they said we've got our guy. Do you imagine if Tennessee drops that game? I can imagine it. No, but like, like the fans there, I hope they don't. I mean, I don't know. Vol Twitter will turn on you

just because they want to be mad at somebody. They'll be mad and I'll take it out on me maybe. But like I, but yeah, Ricky Collins is the guy that, that the LSU transfer that Fran Brown said is going to be the QB. And then they take Steve Angele and you're like, OK, maybe not. 13 and a half. A lot of points, it feels like. That's a lot of points. 13 and a half is a whole lot of points. That's a lot because the game's not in Knoxville, right?

Like the game is it's in Atlanta. It'll be a mostly Tennessee crowd. Oh, I know, but it's indoors and like it's a climate control. I don't know. Maybe, maybe Tennessee, if Tennessee covers that spread, then I think that like my viewpoint of what they are changes a little bit too. Cause Tennessee for as confusing as Nico is at UCLA,

I think that Tennessee is also equally as confusing in terms of what they're gonna be like. What if Joey Aguilar is awesome? Like what? Right, exactly. We have no idea. Just like with Nico, we really don't know what that's gonna look like.

And I think with all of these, like this big 10 list, let me tell you who just based on how the coaches handled the portal, like Dante Moore and Julian Sayen, you feel really good about, because those are programs that have shown us in the past, if they feel like they need somebody they'll go get them.

And neither one felt like they needed anybody. Yeah. Yeah, and they've got good players around them. Exactly, very good. Julian Sain has the best football player in the country playing on his offense. Yep. And quite the hack in the video game, by the way. As well, he should be. Yeah.

Like Nick Harbor was that last year, but Nick Harbor is not that in real life. Jeremiah Smith is that in real life. Okay. We are now in 15. Can I do my ticket? All right, go, go. It's bothering me.

Go for it. So for Mother's Day, go go out. It's bothering me. Go for it. So for Mother's Day, I bought four tickets to the Backstreet Boys in the sphere in Vegas for my wife to go with her friends from high school. So you you you wanted it that way. I wanted it that way. Yeah. I'm not going. I bought it for her and her friends as like a you know, hey, go to Vegas for you know, you're a mom You know, it's a nice gesture. So anyway, I've said as long as you love me you'll go to this concert

So I go into the ticketmaster app And this isn't really as much of a ticketmaster rant is about like why are we making things harder than they need to be ramped? but ticketmaster In order to transfer tickets to somebody, my wife or one of her friends, so they have the tickets on their phone and they can get into the venue, you have to type it, you hit transfer.

But in order to transfer, you need to get sent a phone, a code to your phone that you have to like type in the code. You know, like the, the two factor authentication. Yeah, whatever. So anyway, the phone number on the account is wrong. I think it's an old number and you cannot send them without confirming your phone.

There's no secondary way of getting that code. You can't email it. You can't do anything. there's no secondary way of getting that code. You can't email it. You can't do anything. So I go into the Ticketmaster help area to change the number to my current phone number. And when you change the phone number

to your current phone number, it sends a code to the other number that doesn't exist anymore. There's no other way to change your phone number on it. So I call. Did you call? Yeah, of course I called. And I said, hey, can you change the phone number

on my account? It's a phone number that doesn't exist anymore and I don't have access to, so I can't use it as the code mechanism for changing it. So basically you said, quit playing games with my tickets. I'm just saying like, why don't you have a secondary code option to go to the email that I use to log into my account or my password or something?

Yeah. Google has like seven different options. They're like, do you want to use your indicator app? Do you want to use another device? Like if the phone number doesn't exist anymore, then we can't use the phone number as the mechanism to change your phone number. It's it's insane. So I call and they say, this is

going to take four to five business days and the concert is on Friday. Because I didn't think to transfer it three weeks ago, I was like, okay, we've got three days, I'll transfer the tickets now they have it. So now I'm like in a holding pattern waiting for ticketmaster to call me back to change my phone number and what should have taken your calling, you're calling Britain and everybody else who's supposed to go to the show and you're saying everybody kind of.

Yeah. What's the second part? Yeah. Yeah. But like, like what, what, I just don't understand why things in life that should take three minutes could take three days. Like what are we doing as a society? We, we've think about what we've done

from a technological advance. I can FaceTime people in the Middle East and talk to them face to face. It takes five days potentially for Ticketmaster to change my phone number without giving me the option on the website to just do it myself. So they're gonna show you the meaning of being lonely for those five days.

Andy, but like, am I the asshole here? Like what's going on? Like what are we doing? They're just trying to protect you from getting hacked and someone stealing your tickets because there's another person on the other end of this who's just as mad if they put another option down there because their email address is on the dark web or something

where somebody did hack their Ticketmaster account and stole their tickets. But in order to do that, you would have to hack multiple things. You'd have to, you'd have to hack the web's a mysterious place. Are they, they got a lot of stuff there. Why go to Ticketmaster? If I had those capabilities, I'd be hacking chase bank.

Like, what are we doing? Like you and Eddie better need to get together. You know that chase bank in order to like wire money or to pay credit card bills or to take out cash has less of a security protocol firewall than Ticketmaster. I'm not sure that's a good thing. I just think that like if people want to change their phone number on their account, there's a high likelihood that it's because the phone phone number is no longer there.

It needs to be a secondary way for you to verify that in every way. Yes, I'm agree. I am with you. You are not. But like I want to change the segment to am I the a hole to like, what are we doing? Like, like, what are we doing? And it's like frustrating because like, I'm getting anxious now that like, they're gonna have a problem getting into the show and that you know, can you, that was a $1,200. I, it was expensive. And apparently they put on a hell of a show. My wife and her sisters went when they played Tampa a few years ago. Yeah. And they're apparently tremendous in concert. So like she's going, she went to high school in Vegas and she's going with all

of her Vegas high school friends to the sphere for the first time. It's apparently the coolest concert venue on earth. You know, and I was like, this is a home run. You know, if you, if, if you get this figured out and they get in, you know what that makes you? Larger than life. I am larger than life. Also too.

Points for things that we do for our spouses. My birthday is Sunday and she's flying back on Sunday. Like I even let her go on my birthday weekend. Let her. Or I promoted her going on my birthday. That is what you want. I love you Ari. Hey, Hugh Freezes at SEC Media Days today. I guarantee you he's gonna say something interesting. Uh he's probably gonna get some golf questions. Actually, before we go, we do have one more Brian Kelly clip.

Brian Kelly understands the assignment. That's, this is the part that we're learning. Here is the great Jacques Doucet, Baton Rouge TV legend asking Brian Kelly about golf. Front row. Jacques Doucet, WAF B in Baton Rouge coach? Is it Jacques? Jacques.

How you doing Jacques? Good. How are you? I'm doing great. How's the handicap? You know what? I had other things to do in the month of June. In July, it goes quickly. Brian Kelly gets it. You were worried the family thing maybe doesn't get the SEC.

Nope, he gets it. Talk about who frees tomorrow.