Andy & Ari On3 - LIVE reaction to the penultimate College Football Playoff ranking | Will the committee get it right?

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Andy and Ari on three presented by Wendy's. It is time to find out what the penultimate college football playoff ranking will be penultimate Ari one of my favorite words because why not have a nice elegant one words way of saying next to last. Thank you for defining it for me because I wasn't sure what that meant. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I was gonna let you I was gonna let you go like Pollyanna the other day. So tonight what we find out is as close to finding out who's gonna be in the playoff as possible, right? I think so. I think so. Barring some sort of weird like we just decided to change some things, but I just don't think they're gonna do that. I think for the most part. to change some things, but I just don't think they're going to do that. I think for the most part. One thing that can change and it is squarely on South Carolina and that is if their win over Clemson turns into an ACC champ win, that's the only circumstance that can change from the teams that are still being in the mix, right?
Starting point is 00:01:00 UNLV can beat Boise State and that that may change the seeding of certain champions. Oh I'm not even thinking about that. I'm only thinking about the big debate between the four. You're just talking about who gets in at the very you know who's the last at large. Yes. But the thing is there's so much more than that. There is. You have Army and UNLV and Boise that that's undecided yet at this point although and UNLV and Boise, that's undecided yet at this point, although one result of a game can clear that up pretty quickly. And of course, SMU and Clemson are gonna teach us
Starting point is 00:01:31 or show us how off the rails we get this weekend. So either way we're going to, but. They're going right into this Ari because they have a basketball game at 730. I love being on the beginning side of the basketball game. This is not, yeah, this show never needs to be an hour, by the way. Never 15 minutes would do. It really would. So we have 22. Yeah. Memphis is 25 army at 24, Colorado, 23, not pay attention to these because we do know the committee will use their rankings and say,
Starting point is 00:02:05 well, this team beat this many of our ranked teams. Syracuse at 22. Now Ari, a question I've gotten from a lot of people, and it's a great question. How do they know who they've ranked if they start from the top and go to the bottom? And there is an actual answer to that, which I'm sure you also learn doing the mock selection.
Starting point is 00:02:26 They do scrub through like they'll go right teams and then they'll go back and rank them all again. So they'll have a pretty good idea who's in their top 25 as they're going back through. I mean, when I did it and those three years ago now, but we did pod voting where you voted only through five teams at a time. And I remember doing it from the back to the front. So I don't know how you did it. When we did it from the front to the back in sets of three in pods of three.
Starting point is 00:02:52 And then, and then we had to go all the way back through and do it again. It kind of feels like you're like taking a, uh, a test or something like, where they're like of the three choices here, who do you think's the best? But when I, when I did the mock basketball selection, you had to scrub the whole bracket. Like you had to redo it all over again to make sure you hadn't missed something. I like how we're at 17 and like what we haven't learned yet is Clemson at 17. They fell to 17. So 18, 18 BYU 19 Missouri 20
Starting point is 00:03:23 UNLV. Yeah. And I, I was state 16 and like we are now on the verge, So 18 BYU 19 Missouri 20 UNLV. Yeah, and I was state 16 and like we are now on the verge, Andy of knowing who is likely to get it. I'm excited about that. Iowa State, remember has a chance to win the big 12. So they're at 16. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Do we think if they win the big 12 or Arizona, cause we wanna see where Arizona State ends up cause Arizona State was, okay. So we think, you still think if Boise State wins, that they're going to jump over him? I'm not sure of that anymore. Okay. I still think there's a possibility,
Starting point is 00:03:59 but I don't feel passionate about it one way or the other. No, I feel like if Boise State wins, they're probably your forcing. Because it really helps Boise would be beating another ranked team. I would think there was a better opportunity to do so if UNLV wasn't in the top 25, but they are. So South Carolina is 14th. Okay. So and we knew going into this that they were out. Wait, did they? What was South Carolina last week? I thought they were 15. Wait, did they? What was South Carolina last week?
Starting point is 00:04:27 I thought they were 15th last week. Okay, so they went up one after beating what the committee had as the number 12 team. They were 15th last week, yeah. Yeah, okay. So they moved up. They didn't hop over anybody, which was the hope for South Carolina fans. Right, so they're behind Ole Miss and Alabama. So here's where it gets juicy here.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Miami, Ole Miss, and Alabama are gonna be the next three teams we see, I bet, and I don't know what order they're in. Ole Miss and Alabama. So here's where it gets juicy here. Miami, Ole Miss and Alabama are going to be the next three teams we see, I bet. And I don't know what order they're in. There it is. Alabama is going to play off. Well, no, it might be Miami. We haven't seen Miami yet either. Oh my God. I've just, I love watching. I hope everybody's watching. I know some of you are are going to be listening in
Starting point is 00:05:09 podcast form, but Ari's got his hands over his eyes like I can't watch. I can't watch. I had Miami out of the field and now they're number twelve. So that means Alabama is going to go. It means Alabama is well. Unless Miami unless SMU loses right. Right that's the question would SMU just sub in ahead of Alabama or would SMU fall behind Alabama? That would be the question. I cannot believe this. They have a real line of demarcation between Alabama and Ole Miss now.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So there's no grab ass between who gets in and who doesn't like Ole Miss is out. Right? They're out. I would think so. They're not playing another game. And it did Miami. Bre breaks up that SEC block. So I'm assuming yeah, Alabama's number 11. So they just did it. That's well everybody's politicking hard. But I think they'll keep politicking through Sunday. There's Alabama at 11.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So Ole Miss, South Carolina and Ole Miss, or Miami, Ole Miss and South Carolina are out. We think? No, they're out. What do you mean we think? What could change? They have another ranking. They use a clean sheet of paper every time, Ari.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm with you. I think this is probably what they've decided. Boise number 10. So now we're going to get to see me versus fall Twitter here in a minute. I'm excited about that. But Boise's number 10. So what do you think of this Miami Ole Miss Alabama ranking in the way that they've done it. I think it makes sense that they do it to just break it up and be like, ah, we don't want to have three SEC teams in a row. Like there's no good way to decide this.
Starting point is 00:07:14 You know how I feel about this. If my personal preference, I think I'd pick Ole Miss of that bunch, but it doesn't matter. Like they're all flawed. You can make it. I can, I can make you a case. I can make the little graphic that everybody's making for every one of those teams and make you think that's the one they should pick. But I can also take all the negatives about everyone and say that's the one you definitely shouldn't pick.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Indiana's nine. If Clemson beats SMU, that's the only way that we're going to not know going into Sunday who's the 11th seed outside of, or who the 12th seed is outside of the G5 stuff. If SMU beats Clemson, there's no debate. We just go into it knowing what happens. Right, because that doesn't push anybody else down. SMU goes artificially up as the third seed or the fourth seed or whatever it is. So Indiana's nine and SMU is eight and now we're getting into Tennessee, Ohio state land. Yeah, SMU is eight and this is the big one coming up here with Tennessee and Ohio state because this is home game or not right now. This is the home road division By the way ball. Yeah has joined us. I see all the insults in the chat. Are they insulting me? Of course they're
Starting point is 00:08:37 Well, thank you for being here. It's uh, I actually really do appreciate you coming in these issues of engagement farming were made like yeah I actually really do appreciate you coming in. Accusations of engagement farming were made. Like, yeah. A lot of insults being hurled. I for one am shocked to see that Tennessee is ranked behind Ohio State. I don't know who could have seen that coming. But you know, it's crazy. Like, who would have thought?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Why do you vote for Tiger? Why? I just don't know like, how you could have... I just don't know why I can just say something that is just the way it works and then get so much pushback it's just so obvious have you been watching the way they do this for the last 10 years I mean it's just obvious so to be fair Tennessee fans have not been watching this because they have not been really close to ever making the playoff until now so other than two years ago when they were pretty good,
Starting point is 00:09:27 and then they lost to South Carolina, and that was the end of that. They haven't really looked at this. So no, they may not know how this works. There's Ohio State at number six, so they dropped from two to six. So Ohio State will be hosting a playoff game, and they'll likely be playing Tennessee at home. Interestingly enough. So let's see how this other parts of it shakes out because I think there's a really good chance everybody if this
Starting point is 00:09:56 all holds up, you're going to get your SEC teams going north or a big 10 team coming south like you're not going to get the SEC on SEC rematches. Georgia's five. They could either be seated two or seated. Six probably. Yeah, I want to be clear too about something. This debate was never about whether Tennessee is better than Ohio State. The debate is where they were going to be seated. And that's the end of it. So if Tennessee beats the crap out of Ohio State in a month or three weeks,
Starting point is 00:10:33 don't come back here telling me that I'm an asshole. The debate is over. They will absolutely come back here and tell you you're an asshole. I don't know who's going to win the game. I don't know who's going to win. I was just trying to explain to these people how it was going to to win the game. I don't know who's going to win. I was just trying to explain to these people how it was going to work in the rankings. It worked that way. Let the game happen. I think Tennessee is really good. I think they have a chance to
Starting point is 00:10:53 make a run deep into this thing. If they put things together, Ohio State's a dumpster fire. They could go win. I'm just saying, we know how this works. And we do this for a living. We know how this works. and I just wish that people would listen sometimes I just wish oh Ari it's not enough to you or your fan base it's not enough front to you or your fan base I made a bracket because I have a keen understanding of how this works that's why I get paid to do it poor sweet sweet naive Ari. I love you. I'm so glad for our show that you're doing this, that you're putting yourself out there like this.
Starting point is 00:11:30 But go ahead. I mean, what? Whatever, dude, like it's it's fine. Just tell me to go f myself and continue acting. No, I this is I'm not saying you I'm just saying that I'm just go ahead, call my wife ugly, do what you do.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And, you know, your wife is not ugly. I've met her. We all. She's not so it doesn't hurt my feelings. She's very attractive. Uh, are we gonna queen? I will let's talk about potential backups here. So this is basically the bracket I put out. Right? This is the bracket I put out for bracket ology, isn't it? Did I get anything wrong? I think I got it pretty much dead nuts on. Well, your bracket is right right now.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Right, yeah, and it'll be different. Yeah. The real test of whether your bracket is right is if SMU loses and Alabama is still in. That's the correct. That's the I predicted SMU to win. Yeah, I predicted SMU to win. If SMU and Boise State win, this is what the bracket will look like. I think so you would have Georgia and Georgia hosting Indiana. You'd have Ohio State hosting Tennessee, you'd have Penn State hosting the Big 12 champ, whoever that is, and you'd have Notre Dame hosting Alabama.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Your Notre Dame, Alabama, and Ohio State, Tennessee things would be your ratings monsters. One of those is Friday night to be like, look at the playoff. They're all gonna be ratings monsters, I hope. I hope, like that's the whole thing. And more football, you know, that's... There's no distinction on where the game is played.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I think Georgia and Indiana is electric. I'm excited about that too. Cause that's one of those like, you can criticize Indiana all you want. They have a chance to go prove themselves. If they don't prove themselves, okay, then Georgia will go play Texas. Or you flip Georgia in Texas, depending on who wins that game. And Georgia's sitting at the Sugar Bowl, and Indiana goes to Austin.
Starting point is 00:13:35 That'd be fine. I can live with either one of those. That's the other part where that might not be this bracket is Georgia could beat Texas. Also, remember, Penn State could beat Oregon. That's not a huge spread. Now, let me ask you this. Do you think that there are any results, not in terms of who's in or out, but
Starting point is 00:13:54 results of conference championship games that can change the way this is seated? Like for instance, if Georgia beats the crap out of Texas, does Alabama have a better chance of getting in over SMU at the end if it comes to that? If Oregon beats the crap out of Penn State, does that change where Penn State is in comparison to Ohio State or does it hurt either team's resume enough to change the seating? Or do you think that the seating is basically set in stone at this point because the teams are like, for instance, like what's going to happen to Penn State? Like if Penn State loses that. I think Penn State and, and, or Penn State and Texas are in kind of similar situations
Starting point is 00:14:35 in that they lost to the best team on their schedule at home. Now they have a chance to like Texas has a chance to actually avenge that loss. Penn State not avenge it, but play a team that is considered better than the team they lost to in the conference championship game. So I think in both cases, if they play close games, they will probably be right like you'll just you would see Texas and Georgia flip. If it's a close game, if Penn State loses to Oregon by seven. Do they fall behind Ohio State?
Starting point is 00:15:07 I don't think so. Cause you're not going to penalize like you penalize them for playing in the championship game from a seating standpoint. I don't I don't think so, and especially if Penn State plays. Oregon similar to the way Ohio State played Oregon, I don't.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I don't think they're gonna. I don't think they're really changed much. Yeah. Yeah. What game on this bracket would you be most excited about? Because I know mine like mine would be. Well, that game would probably be the best most high level game. I mean Notre Dame Alabama could be pretty good, but like Georgia, Indiana is like literally the answer. It's the
Starting point is 00:15:44 key to the crypt of everything we've been arguing about is the SEC great is Indiana overrated. Like I think Georgia would probably win the game right now. But like what if Indiana beat Georgia? Like, could you imagine? And that's why you play these games. And that's the thing everybody's been saying all along is we just want to see him play the games. And so now we're going to get a chance to see it. And like the thing is like Tennessee fans can be mad if Tennessee has to go up to Ohio State, but Tennessee could also go up to Ohio State and win. Like what if the big 10 fans go win? Yeah. What are the
Starting point is 00:16:19 big 10 fans been saying? All the SEC teams are scared to come up playing to Cole. Like what if an SEC team goes, it's 29 degrees and the SEC team wins. Is the climate in Knoxville that different than Columbus from a weather standpoint? Oh, it's pretty cold in Knoxville once you get to November, December. So it's the, like, here's the thing. And I'll say this, it's not a,
Starting point is 00:16:40 Ohio State habitually does not play up to its potential. Habitually. I'm not going to... Habitually. Yeah, we just saw it Saturday. And it wasn't just the first time Saturday. It's a four-year trend. They don't win games that they're supposed to win or win games in this stage very often.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Ryan Day has beaten Penn State in Indiana this year, and Tennessee fans rightfully are upset that they don't think those are quality wins. And I get that if you don't think those are like that's irrational. But what is important is where they're ranked by the committee and how they're viewed. Now that doesn't mean that Tennessee can't go to the semis. We've seen Tennessee multiple times. There's a lot to love about that team. Their defensive line is nasty. Nico is somebody who I think has a huge ceiling, and they've got the best running back or one of the three best running backs in college football.
Starting point is 00:17:29 That's a pretty good, it's a hell of a lot better than what just beat Ohio State on Saturday. Indeed, indeed. Ari, you're getting a little saucy. So I say we tell everybody about our friends at Wendy's and the saucy nugs, and we'll come back and break this down a little more. Ari, your official welcome to On3.
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Starting point is 00:19:25 to try the nugs you already love. Pick a flavor, grab some extra napkins, and prepare to nug, I've never nugged before. Big Black Vols, one of my favorite commenter names ever. You know what's crazy? Wait, the media is sabotaging the Vols again? That's what Big Black Vol says. The media. You know what I'm saying? When I think about the Tennessee situation because I, for some reason they haven't even talked about Ole Miss. They're
Starting point is 00:19:56 the ones that should be the most aggrieved team here. But Tennessee like three weeks ago was out. Like you're in the playoff rejoice like am I crazy about that they're rejoicing, but they still want to yell at you. It's okay, but what about Ole Miss? Okay, let's talk about Ole Miss. Let's talk about Ole Miss. Let's do it. How angry on a scale from one to ten. Good Ole Miss be about Alabama. What you know what? Let's let's Let's table the Ole Miss one for a second. I'm going to ask you a secondary question.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Well, can I answer the question first? Ole Miss should be angry that they lost to Florida and Kentucky. That's what they should be angry about because that is what cost them this. Because if they are 10 and 2 and have beaten Florida or Kentucky, not both, just one, not both but one, they'd be in the playoff right now comfortably in the playoff. Okay, so the second question I was going to ask you is how upset, because there's going to be a lot of people who are upset and I think I know what you're going to say, but Alabama find a way at the moment to weasel back into this thing.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I actually still think I just to the core of my being and I think I might be wrong on this. I'm not passionate about it. You beat the sense into me on Sunday morning. I think if SMU loses, they will take SMU. I really do. I really to my core really do believe. I think Alabama needs them to win. So I looked at the, I was looking at the composition of the committee. And it's a lot of, you know, old school
Starting point is 00:21:32 coaches, Mike Riley, Jim Grove. And you look at the ADs, Ward-Manuel, the Michigan athletic directors, the chair, you got Mac Rhodes from Baylor. You know, It's a group that I do think probably will, the more I think about it, the more you might be right on that because of the idea that all of these people worked in an era where conference championship games mean a lot or they're part of a conference that stages a conference championship game
Starting point is 00:22:04 and they want them to mean a lot. And so, I do think you might be right that they go out of their way to not punish a loser of a conference championship game. I went to bed on Saturday night thinking Alabama was definitively out of this thing and then you convinced me otherwise on Sunday that they're not. And now it's a debate. And I'm not even sure if it's actually gonna be a debate in the committee room. I don't think we're debating it. I'm sure they debated it.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And then they landed on having Alabama where they have them right now. And so I don't- We've learned nothing about what that means in relation to a two loss SMU team. Right, exactly. So if SMU, and I think you just mentioned, you just asked me, could the results of the Big Ten Championship game change the seedings? Could the and we're
Starting point is 00:22:51 talking about margin of victory, how it goes. Could the SEC margin of victory change it? I do think how the ACC Championship game goes down also probably has an effect. Like if Clemson beats SMU in nine over times, and the game turns on a controversial call, then they're probably going to keep SMU they're probably gonna put SMU in. If SMU lost by five touchdowns, which I do not see happening having watched them play all year. Yeah, if they did, then they might be out.
Starting point is 00:23:24 see happening having watched them play all year. Yeah, if they did, then they might be out. Yeah, no, I'm with you. Um, that would be really funny to see. Did you see Davao today? Uh, saying, Oh, I wish I could do the impression. We're the first to win 15. It was actually a hard impression. I know I can't. I don't think he's not butt head. He's not going to, huh? No, no, I know. I'm trying my best here, but he does go like he said we were the first team. We went 15 and Owen win a national title. Maybe we could you know be the first nine and three team that doesn't I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Was that was that more like George Bush? I don't know what that was. I don't I don't know. You talk about like Dana Carvey is George Bush the not get dead wouldn't be pregnant at this juncture. You're talking about HW Bush or George W? George W is what I was thinking. Okay, okay. It's the twitching, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 So I think this is gonna be, so the ACC Championship game takes on a lot. And that's one thing that I think is really interesting about this. And why they're going to 14 as soon as they possibly can. Because Ari, what are the two least interesting conference championship games right now? The two least important ones are the Big Ten and the SEC. That's correct. They mean nothing other than seeding, which is meaningful to the fans of the
Starting point is 00:24:47 teams, but if you're worried about is that, is my team going to get in? Is it nobody cares? So mountain West definitely means something. American could mean something, depending on the mountain West. The big 12 definitely means something. And the ACC absolutely means something and everybody's going to be watching the ACC because like every Alabama fan is going to be tuned into the ACC title game.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. And like they're going to be important fun games and like the thing is, is that I do wish that we could do something to make the Big 10 in the in the SEC Championship mean something because they're going to by adding two spots to the field. Yeah, because like the thing is, is that they're the two best conferences in college football, right? Like you want the champion of that to mean something. You want that banner in those facilities to mean something. You don't think I'll tell you what the Big 10 Championship game absolutely means something to Oregon and Penn State. They haven't won it.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I mean, this is first year for Oregon and Penn State hasn't won it since 2016. So you know, it doesn't mean anything for the playoff, but I think it means a lot to those fan bases. So you know, and I think that'll be the case with a lot of scenarios here in the future. But I do think that like being a Big Ten champion or an SEC champion should mean in the future, but I do think that like being a big 10 champion or an SEC champion should mean in the future a more advantageous path. In reality, not just in concept, right to the national championship. Yeah, and while they I don't think they would officially reserve the bias for those two because
Starting point is 00:26:19 it would only if you go to 14, there's only two bias and we should they should I don't think I don't think they would I from what I gather Greg Sankey has some antitrust concerns about Just earmarking for certain conferences, even if one of them is his but In practice most years Your big ten champ and your SEC champ would get the top two seeds and would get the two buys. So you would get the excitement of those games being for the only buys and you play one less game
Starting point is 00:26:52 and then everybody else is playing for spots. What's interesting is this debate that we're having now would just move down to another spot in the ranking. We'd be around where South Carolina and Ole Miss are. Yeah, yeah. And again, you know, the thing that I got into a fight with Nicole, a fight, an argument, and Mike Golick Jr. I followed along. It was so awesome.
Starting point is 00:27:23 You and Nicole Auerbach and Mike Golick Jr. Nicole, we're friends, we used to work together. We worked together for almost a decade. I love the woman, but we were arguing. And it is interesting, because Golick hit me over the head with it, but it's like, if you have no sympathy for the teams, because I have zero sympathy for Ole Miss,
Starting point is 00:27:43 I think it's bullshit, but I have zero sympathy for them because they, again, they lost to teams they shouldn't have lost to. But there has to be a way to at least acknowledge that it is a little just kind of sideways the way they arrived at this. Right. Like I just, to me, it's like, you don't have, you don't have to feel bad for the team to feel bad about the circumstance, you know, because I mean, really, I really don't think that's been happening to
Starting point is 00:28:09 somebody for as long as college football has existed. So I mean, I think that it happened twice in the 14th field. No, there was always somebody pissed off. Oh, maybe you were somebody always was being pissed off or being unjustly left out or different. In my opinion, I don't think that being unjustly left out, I'm saying they had their opportunities. Yeah, like if you're all this,
Starting point is 00:28:40 you should have beaten Kentucky or Florida. Could we at least address the elephant in the room here? Alabama. Alabama mascot. Alabama is the elephant in the room. Funny enough, is a piss poor candidate for this. Like it is like an ugly reality that this is what it has come to to me. Like they are not a team that should be playing for the national championship at all. Like, and it's not just- And that's the thing that bothers you the most is that it's Alabama. If this was Miami, it wouldn't bother you.
Starting point is 00:29:11 If it's Ole Miss, it wouldn't bother you. If it's South Carolina, it wouldn't bother you. It would never be Miami. That's the thing. Miami got out and they have a fewer loss than them. It's never gonna be Miami. It's always going to be Alabama. Let's say Alabama lost a fourth game
Starting point is 00:29:23 and this wasn't Alabama, this was Auburn. And Auburn was nine and three and had the same resume. Yeah, I think I would be less annoyed by it, honestly. Yeah, you're only like, but see that's also stupid that it's because it's Alabama, it annoys you. Like it doesn't matter who it is. It's like, yeah, but and I think like I actually can and if it were Georgia instead of Alabama, so Alabama fans don't think it's just a it's personal. If it were Ohio State, if or Alabama, if it were Clemson, if or any team that has gotten
Starting point is 00:29:52 the benefit of the doubt repeatedly over the course of the past decade that was an epic, it's not an anti Alabama thing. Right. I think those types of superpowers that have been built and have continually gotten the benefit of the doubt in the 14 era now taking an opportunity away from a team that thought it had a better chance to get in because there's 12 that's what annoys me and maybe that's not rational but like can I also like Ole Miss has a huge gripe and also too and I want to ask you this,
Starting point is 00:30:26 and I might write about this tomorrow. Go for it. To me, do you agree that the difference between Alabama and Ole Miss is marginal? Negligible. In fact, I told you, I've told you on the show multiple times, personal preference, I would put Ole Miss in,
Starting point is 00:30:40 because I think they have the higher ceiling this season. So if Miami gets by, or I mean, if Alabama gets by, by its bootstraps, did I use that right? You said licking the bootstraps the other night and I'm still kind of stuck on that. If it gets by, by a hair, Yeah, yeah. on the Ole Miss, which we agree they did.
Starting point is 00:31:02 You're telling me that Miami can fit in that small sliver of space between those two? Like, how do you get, if Miami is better than Ole Miss, then why is Miami not a better candidate than Alabama? It makes no sense. Either put Miami in front of both or behind both. I'm sure Ward-Manuel will have a very thorough explanation for you on the teleconference that's starting right now.
Starting point is 00:31:24 You see what I'm saying though? Like if you're gonna put a Miami somewhere, put them behind both or in front of both, not in the middle. Ari. What are we doing? Ari, I'm gonna tell you what I've been telling you for the last three days.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I know, you don't have to tell me, I know. They have to pick someone. There are four that are kinda similar and only one of them has a spot. I know, but Alabama and Ole Miss are the same. They're the same. I don't know what the strength of schedule is or the FBI or if it's close. They're all close.
Starting point is 00:31:55 The stats are close. They're negligible. But if you think Miami played in a crappy conference and has no wins, then how are you saying they're better than Ole Miss but not as good as Alabama when I have questions about whether Ole Miss is better than Alabama? This is insane. It's absolute lunacy. I love how high your voice gets. Am I wrong? You know what it is? I feel like I'm going through puberty again because I lost my voice on Saturday night and now it's coming back. So now I sound like Pee Wee Herman, but hopefully by tomorrow morning show,
Starting point is 00:32:27 I'll start. Will you feel better if Clemson wins and SMU takes that spot instead of Alabama? I will have no gripes. So you have to hope that Clemson doesn't win because we want to be already to be fired up on Sunday because like if you if you go into it, you fired up about something no matter what but if you go into Sunday, if you go into Sunday with Clemson as the three seed or the four seed and then SMU sneaks in at 12 then the team that
Starting point is 00:32:54 SMU was afforded the opportunity that the 12 team playoff was supposed to give to these teams all the teams that didn't do a good enough like not scoring an offensive touchdown at Oklahoma or losing to Kentucky in Florida or do a good enough like not scoring an offensive touchdown at Oklahoma or losing to Kentucky in Florida or losing to Georgia Tech are out and rightfully so and you have a team that didn't lose in their regular season conference schedule that's rewarded for that and I think that that would be fair. Ratchet to one with uh with this this will get you fired up. I want to see Ari's reaction when Clemson wins and SMU gets left out. I mean go watch the video that we we did on Sunday because that was just me having to come to terms with that for 30 minutes with Andy screaming at me and where were
Starting point is 00:33:27 we? Waco. Waco. That's right. Ryan says, are you stop hating on Bama? They have a top 12 resume with wins over Georgia, South Carolina, Missouri and LSU. You know what I wish I could do? I think this is Greg Burns burner. I wish I could take my credit card out and pay $5 to say something and put it on the screen and what I would say. I'm not hating on Alabama. I'm not. It's the same thing with Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Just because somebody says something about your favorite team that you don't like does not mean we hate you. I don't hate you. I love this one from Gerald. Are you are such a Bama hater and SEC bias? Which one is which is it? Which is it Gerald? Is it possible to be a Bama hater but an SEC supremacy bias toward the rest of the SEC?
Starting point is 00:34:21 Is that is that even possible? Oh I don't know. Everybody in the SEC is great but Bama sucks. That's my new platform. See that's the thing. They just want you to, they want to be mad about something. Everybody wants to be mad about something. I don't feel bad for the teams that got screwed. I feel like I just got done eating a healthy meal. I'm full, but I'm not satisfied. Is that a good way to put it? You don't win friends with salad.
Starting point is 00:34:57 You win them with Wendy's Saucy Nugs. Tomorrow is a Wendy's Sauciest Take Wednesday. It is also National Signing Day. We will break down the bracket and the rankings a little more. I'm sure by the time we go on the air at 930 AM Eastern time, there will have been some shenanigans involving signing day. There will be flips. By the way, more guys going in the transfer portal, more coaching drama.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Michigan fired itself. It's a coordinator today. Yeah, it's it. Listen, it is all happening. Everything in the world is happening right now. What a reward for beating Ohio State. Yeah, well, it's a softer landing, I suppose. Ari, this has been a pleasure. Folks in the chat, thank you for lighting it up out here today. This argument will continue. As you can see, it's not over. Everybody's got their opinion and it's going to be like this through Sunday, even if the
Starting point is 00:35:54 rankings are not going to change that much. I can't wait. We'll talk to you again tomorrow morning.

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