Andy & Ari On3 - Matthew Golden will have you in TEARS before the draft

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

We’re excited to announce we’ll be hosting Andy & Ari On3 LIVE from the Draft in Green Bay on Thursday, April 24 and Friday, April 25! We’ll be set up right outside the famous Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field at the Culver’s Great Wisconsin Tailgate. Born in Wisconsin, Culver’s is the home of the legendary ButterBurger, Fresh Frozen Custard and Wisconsin Cheese Curds—there’s no better representation of America’s Dairyland than that. We’ll have some very special guests throughout the Draft that you won’t want to miss, so stay tuned for more details and get ready for a weekend of fun, made fresh with our friends at Culver’s: https://go.culvers.com/culvers/sAkHC (0:00-9:52) Intro(9:53-20:53) WR Matthew Golden from Texas joins the show(20:54-25:56) Recapping Matthew Golden(25:57-41:32) CB Maxwell Hairston from Kentucky joins(41:33-46:01) Recapping Maxwell(46:02-59:28) EDGE Mykel Williams from Georgia joins(59:29-1:01:09) Conclusion; See you tomorrow! Welcome to our show right outside Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin. We have a loaded show for you right before the draft gets underway. Listen to projected first round picks like Matthew Golden, Maxwell Hairston, and Mykel Williams here! Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey

Welcome to Andy and Ariane 3. We are here at the Culver's Great Wisconsin tailgate in Green Bay. Look at that. That's a frozen tundra. We got Packers fans. What do you want tonight? Maxwell Harrison. We got an interview with him on this show. Yeah. He's going to be a really good player. Maybe here. Maybe here. He was said it was down on this show. Yeah, he's going to be a really good player. Maybe here, maybe here. He was said it was down with Green Bay. Oh, he's definitely down with Green Bay. He's a Midwest guy.

He's a Midwestern guy. Yeah, and it's been really, really cool to be here. I want to say Andy that this is probably one of the most unique sports situations I've ever been like places I've ever been to in terms of like I knew all about it because I'm not from Mars I knew was in a residential area I knew kind of like the lore of it but to actually drive through and you're just driving in a neighborhood you turn the corner and then their Lambo Field is right there it's been really really it reminds me a lot of the the little SEC and Big Ten

towns that we go to a lot yeah except there's an NFL team in it yeah it's wild and and it is hotel situation is Just as miserable as it is in Bloomington, Indiana State College But we're staying in a 12,000 square foot lodge on the ocean or on the lake feels like the ocean. It's wonderful I really like it here and boys. I'm already talking to my wife about like scoping out like Wisconsin summer getaways Absolutely, you know, it's yourself a lake ass. Who do you boys? I'm already talking to my wife about like scoping out like Wisconsin summer getaways. Absolutely. You know, get yourself a lake ass.

Who do you want? Who do you all want? The Packers are better. Oh the Chiefs are better? Bears. Oh we got a bear. Well who do you want the Bears to get? Any old Lyman. Any old Lyman. I love it. This is a true Bears fan! Any ol' lineman!

Even though- even though the Bears have actually revamped their ol' lineman free agency. Yeah, supposedly really good and I think that's probably the reason why they might be in the running back pocket tonight. Listen, what's your name? What's your name? Vinny! How you liking that free custard? Good! Beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah, the chocolate bang's pretty good. It slaps. Yeah. Uh, yeah, we are giving away... Listen, if you want to win hearts and minds,

you have people free frozen custard. That's the way to go. And Merck? It was great on your show, it's on TV. Uh, it's on YouTube, which is the same as TV to your generation. Yeah. Bye! Bye!

Bye! Bye! Bye! Bye! Bye! Bye! Bye! Bye! It's on YouTube, which is the same as TV to your generation. Yeah. Bye. Bye. We got J.J. McCarthy back here. Look at this. Yeah, the Vikings gear in... Go blue, baby. That's right.

Vikings gear in Green Bay. You know, that's just a tough case. Hold on, no, that's Michigan gear. Oh, Michigan gear. Okay, sorry. I think that's the way you don't get punched in Green Bay. Yeah. You wear the Vikings quarterbackbacks Jersey as a Michigan player? I've eaten eaten enough cheese curds or I can't turn my head to the left because of intense pleasure my body's receptors

get out but Yeah, so I think that like this is Been very interesting day to kind of watch players go up and down the draft board Andy And I think that you know There are a few key spots here and a few key points in terms of the first round that I think are going to be interesting is what happens with with T-Mac yes what happens with Shidor Sanders obviously is another one and um just in terms of how what do the Patriots do it for because I think that's the tone for everything else because we think we know what happens one two three Cam Ward's

going to be the first pick of the Titans there's a lot of there's a lot I'm seeing on Twitter here that The Browns are considering trading back to so not take Travis hunter. It's Cleveland. I'll take Travis hunter I think everybody will take him Like I don't own an NFL team and I'm not a general manager But I would trade to get Travis hunter on three especially in a in a top heavy draft In terms of like explosive playmaking ability if you're a team that lacks that I think it's important So I I wouldn't do that if I were them, especially when there's not much

Quarterback help later like I don't know what the thought processes are, but apparently there's smoke coming from that camp But I but what happens if there's gonna be a trade? At five with Jacksonville and people trying to get up to get Gentie at five, six, if any movement's going to be there. But it kind of opens up a bigger discussion that we were attempting to have before we had technical difficulties, which is how do you view wide receivers? You said something of, I'm not sure if there's a wide receiver in the draft that's worthy of the top five pick. And I think that that's an interesting thing to dive into. Yeah. Because to me it's everything and I think that as sport is evolving both at the college and

the NFL level, a receiver that gets open and produces no matter what situation they're in helps drive your entire team forward and it makes quarterbacks better and I use this example with you earlier but it's like did Sam Darnold all of a sudden learn how to play football or did he have Justin Jefferson to throw it to? And it's just like to me to wrap it back around to our college expertise which is you know covering Trevor Lawrence from his Georgia days in high school all the way through Clemson he's one of the most generational college quarterbacks that we've seen in our time covering the sport. And I think that there's a large faction in the NFL community that's kind of

given up on his ability to be. Yeah. And it's like, well, if you would tip maybe T Higgins in a pre-injury, Justin Ross had had a lot of do that. Yeah. Well, so then what do you do? Yeah. Why don't you try to make Brian Thomas and, and you get somebody else.

Well, and the TMAC thing I've said it it and I said it on on this morning's show It's my Tyler Lockett theory if you are one of the only weapons on the offense Maybe the only weapon on the offense the defense is completely Here to stopping you and you still put up numbers You're gonna be successful Yeah and I think that there's a big a big discussion point about the running backs place in the NFL and what they're worthy of in terms of, you know, draft capital and where, in what capital you want to use in order to get them and how it's swinging back around to running

back heavy. Maybe that's partly because, you know, Ashton Gentry is a freak. I think that the receiver position is more important to modern-day offense than even a great running back is. It is. You have to have one. You have to. I don't even know if you go back and look at last year's playoffs and teams in the NFL, but didn't most of the teams that advanced pretty far have a dynamic receiving option?

They did. And then you can say, oh, but the team that won had Saquon Barkley, but the team that won also had AJ Brown and and davante smith and yeah yeah the team that one absolutely infinitely better including jalen hurts when a j brown came into the picture yeah like it's not rocket science here so

i think that both he and matthew golden who were gonna have on our show here today and it was really fun to interview both from a football perspective but also real life perspective. I thought it was a touching interview is also somebody who's been in those conversations with the first overall receiver coming off the board and I think that he's a name to watch as well. Yeah, I am really excited to see what happens with Matthew Golden because he blossomed at Texas.

He was good at Houston, but to get in that Texas offense and then show out like he did the incredible catch in the Arizona State game to Keep them alive so they could win that game. I When I were across the country when that moment happened, it was me wild freaked out simultaneous. Yes was insane I was in the press box at the Rose Bowl when that was going on And I missed the first Ten minutes of the Rose Bowl the Rose Bowl was over by the time you got done watching. By the time I got to my seat,

it was already 21 to seven, I think, and it was over. But wow, what a play that was. But also to a special, you know, pre-snap check from Quinn Ewers, who's another person that is an interesting dynamic. Well, we can probably talk about Quinn tomorrow, because he ain't going to happen tonight. The receiver thing is so fascinating to me though.

Well, and Matthew Golden, there is a chance he could be the first receiver taken. He's lightning fast, you know, he gets open. So it's possible he's wide receiver one, unless Travis Hunter is a wide receiver, which that's really up to the team that takes him because he's going before all of these guys. We just don't know if he's going to be a corner or a receiver. Who's a person that turns a broken play or a play? Where things don't seem to be going the right way and turns it into a 25 yard game because they're unstoppable Like I didn't there's so many different types of receivers like we've been drooling over Xavier Restrepo for the entire draft process Obviously he ran that terrible 40 and said that he was injured. I think he's in a drop potential

He's gonna get picked on Saturday or not picked at all But that's I still think he'll be good in the NFL. But people will be shocked that he catches fastest. But those types of players too, don't command top 10, top 15, top 20 positioning because it's all about trying to find the person who can most duplicate like something that Justin Jefferson does, which is everything. Down strong rangey great ball skills and I think TMAC

illustrates all those those Those characteristics and I think Matthew golden also. Yeah, we'll find out I'm very and very interested to see who goes first on the receiver the full-time receiver because with Travis Hunter is his own His own animal at this point. So Travis hunter too. Yeah for sure Let's let's hear from Matthew Golding. We have we have several interviews for you today. So we have Matthew Golden from Texas We have former Kentucky quarterback Maxwell Harrison, which that is an awesome interview as well. You're gonna love him guys and Georgia edge rusher Michael Williams who part of a really deep edge class where they're I mean There could be five six edge guys in the first round tonight

Yeah deepest position group and he has If you watch college football, you're watching the show you watch it, you know why? Oh, yeah. Yeah exactly All right. But first we got to talk with Matthew Golden This guy I'm telling you right now. You're gonna fall in love with him You're gonna want your team to draft him Texas fans already know but I think everybody else is gonna say you know what I love this guy cannot wait to see what he does next here is Matthew Golden we are here with Matthew Golden Texas wide receiver few hours away from a life-changing moment. When you think of how far you've come to be here,

I know you probably never imagined you'd be sitting on a couch in Green Bay, Wisconsin. With us. Not with us. But when you think back to when you were a kid, could you have ever imagined this? Yeah. I always had that vision in myself when i was younger man you know i was grew up watching football watching the NFL draft so to be in this position where you know what it took to get here it's truly a blessing and it's remarkable you know i can explain the

feeling right now i mean when you think about the amount of work that goes in people don't see all that they see the highlight tape and the touchdowns on sat Saturdays but to be here underneath that one of the most iconic stadiums in the country like do you even believe that it's this is this is real right now like I just him our normies that's what we call each other you know like not normal people out there but like we try to envision what it would be like to be you in this moment and we can't you can't even describe the feeling man that's how good it is.

It's just going back to thinking like how much work you put in to get here, the adversity that I face man, it's crazy how everything played out. For me, I always kept God first, I always stay committed to the process and now I'm here. I've heard you talking about your childhood and you said it was very tough. You and your mom struggled at times and they had to stay in hotels. And at one point just staying in front of a Walmart.

What would you say to that kid right now? No definitely definitely definitely a humble kid you know somebody that been through a lot you know growing up for him to be in this position now, looking back, you know, everything was for a reason. You know, that's what I always tell myself. It kind of made me who I am today. You know, that's why I got a chip on my shoulder wherever I do go, man.

It kind of keep me filled to, you know, never not want to be in that position again. I just want to wonder, because you're obviously, you've been in the NIL era, you've probably had some financial success already, you're about to have more, but does that feeling when you've lived through it ever go away? Yeah, it never goes away.

For me, that's something that really made me who I am. So I always look back at that, whatever situation I'm in, because that's what got me here. That's what kept me motivated to keep going when I was doubt people doubted me and didn't expect Me to get this far. So, you know, I definitely treated it's one of my good things about me, man It makes me who I am, you know the difference between now and in the past You know, I think players are always being paid to a certain But now that you guys are being paid what you're worth in college This is an important day, but it's not the first time you embark on wealth like maybe it was five years ago

What's the first thing with draft money that you want to buy? Oh, I definitely get my grandma a house, man We lost we lost our property a couple years ago. You know, that's somewhere I grew up when I was younger and You know, it'd be a blessing to be able to get that back from my family You know, that's where they all grew up. That's where I grew up. So, you know, that's always I always told myself I wanted to do that and now I'm in a position to do it. So if it's bound to happen, I'm gonna make it happen.

You're gonna go knock on the door? Yeah, I'm gonna kick the door down somewhere. I mean, it's a knock on the door. Hey, I'm in the NFL now. I would we used to live here. We'd like to buy it from you like it's literally for sale right now oh wow oh man so right now you know I go back and look at it every time I actually had a camp last week for some kids back at

home and I dropped down that road that's why I grew up at so it's actually the backstreet of my the high school that I went to uh-huh that my whole family lives on that back road man so you know a lot of people you know they started knocking stuff down and for me man It's always been giving back to my people so you know to be able to do that man. That'd be the biggest purchase for me I'm sorry. I'm getting anxious right now. Did you put an offer in? No, it's for sale. Yeah, it's for sale. Yeah, I'm definitely going you know once I get in there I'm definitely gonna make some calls man try to get that done for you You're gonna hand it the keys to grandma is that yeah? Yeah? I'm a surprising man I'm gonna get a blindfolded get her my mom blindfolded. They don't watch on Andy and Ari on three

You know I don't think they do No worries tell them this yeah, you tubers. Yeah, take them up there. I could not imagine the feeling because you know I Was given everything I haven't given anything in terms of like my parents and stuff and I couldn't imagine what it would be like to do that that's great man definitely appreciate you so we're not very far away from you going in the transfer portal you know you had a good career at Houston there's a coaching change there you decide you want to see something different when you entered the portal was this this a day that you had in mind?

Like thinking about being a first-round picker, was it just like where do I find where I can improve? I had this vision my freshman year. I actually I had this come, I just got off the phone with my position coach at Houston earlier today, and we was just talking about what my expectations were coming in. I told him I wanted to be through and done. And you know, truly you know he helped me get to that point too. You know he started me off at a young career but you know going to Texas man I benefited a lot from going there. Coach Sark, you know the coaching staff that they got up there man they did a tremendous job. I can't thank them guys enough to put me in a position and be successful. When you transfer in the middle of your career I

know Houston is from where you're from and you know kind of has that and then you have Texas, like when you look back fans always wonder like how do the players view what they are moving forward? Like are you a Longhorn? How do you view that? I'm definitely a Longhorn. I'm definitely a Longhorn. You know going there, that city, you know, they welcome me with open arms, man.

And that's something I really do appreciate. And all the fan base they got down there is true loyalty down there. And for Houston, man, that's home. You know, that's home for me. So I'm kind of 50-50, man. I can't really pick in between. So I feel like when you leave after a coaching change,

it's not the same thing. It's not like turning your back on a school. Like everything you got recruited to is different at that point. But when you went into the portal, how quick did everybody get on you? What was that like? I definitely had a lot of phone calls. But Texas was the first school that reached out to me.

And we actually played them early on that year. And I went for two touchdowns on them, about 100 plus yards. And I was just thinking back to what I could do in their offense, the way Coach Shark coaches and just being in that pro style offense, I knew it was gonna do a lot for me. How much did playing in that offense do you think help you for what you're about to do? Yeah, man, it definitely helped me elevate my game all around.

It was a lot of stuff I didn't know that I could do in an offense. When I got there and got around the coaches and everything and It was a lot of stuff I didn't know that I could do in an offense, you know. When I got there and got around the coaches and everything and the different things they showed me, man, it opened my eyes a lot more. What advice, because Sark's been in an FLOC, what advice did he give you as you went through this process? I was actually struggling with the offense when I got to Texas, man, and I reached out to him and I asked him if I could meet with him during the week.

We started meeting and it was one day we met and he simplified everything for me. You know, sat it down right in front of me. And that's all I needed. And once he did that, you know, it started to click for me. So you feel like whatever team picks you, whatever they throw at you now, you can handle that? They definitely prepared me for that, man. I'm really sorry to do this to you. Have to do it it. Yeah, you're probably gonna be annoyed by it. Oh boy Tell us about arch People are dying to know and you would know that's a true dog man

I'm excited to see what he gonna do this year, you know, the ball is in his court and you know, he gonna take over He's a leader on and off the field man And he's the same guy every day The sky is is the limit for him. I mean he could he could do whatever he wants to do if he put his mind to it So I'm really excited for him Did you have those same questions he was already there when you got there Yeah, did you wonder like oh, who is this guy the most high prospect of all time? Yeah, yeah, I asked him like I heard about him you know but once I got up there you know me

and Arst we talked a lot and I started to watch him at practice man and I knew he was special you know he don't act like a regular freshman you know he act like he's been in college for three years and for me you know that's that's somebody you could put your trust in it definitely and build behind so I feel like for him man it's gonna it's gonna be a your trust in it definitely and build behind so I feel like for him man It's gonna it's gonna be a ride for him. It's gonna be cool. So you're here with Maxwell Harrison Too fast is 40th combine right? Yeah Who's faster?

I couldn't say you know, I really couldn't say we both pretty fast So I guess we'll just have to line up and see who win. Well, y'all played this year too. So how'd that go? Yeah, no, it was a good matchup for sure. You know, going against a great DB and a good receiver. Who won the matchup? I'm going to say I won. I got to. Well, I think we know who won the game. We won the game. That's different. I can read the score as well as anybody.

I'm wondering, you know, as we're in the last few hours heading into this event, we're obsessed with mock drafts and reading. Do you read that yourself? Where do people think I'm going to go? Do you look at your like betting total of like positioning? Like how aware are you of like what people are saying? I don't pay attention to it, man. You know, it's a lot of people that's not in the facility. They don't know what's going on, man. So for me to pay lot of people that's not in the facility they don't

know what's going on man so for me to pay attention to somebody that's not in there it's not doing me no good you know you have no idea like where you're you could end up tonight no I don't you don't have the slightest cool his age is probably mentioned you don't know like position why go but that would stress me out though I'm with you like it would stress me out if I had a bunch of people I don't know trying to tell me where I'm with you like it would stress me out if I had a bunch of people I don't know trying to tell me where I'm going for my next job. It would stress me out a lot. The next job thing is crazy we get a lot of comments online and we read all those why wouldn't you if you were a player? Don't read the comments.

He said yeah don't read the comments. Yeah I read the comments. We're working on that with him. But like I it's like for me it was like if on three it's like you know what we're trading you and then there was some mass media coverage of where I was gonna go, I would read every word of it. Yeah, and you would drive yourself insane. Yeah, you definitely would. So how good. So just trying to get away from football sometimes and you know, just relax and you know, just just appreciate, you know, this moment, you know, and everything it took to get here. All right. So I cannot wait till, till that paperwork gets filed in Harris County, Texas. That's awesome. I'm like, I'm like, I feel like I'm a part of it.

When that deed gets stamped. I cannot wait to see that. Well, congratulations and good luck. Appreciate y'all, man. Thank you. That is so awesome. When he said what he was gonna do for his grandmother, because it's one thing to say I'm going to buy my grandma a house or I'm going to buy my mom a house, but to buy your grandma's old house

that they, yeah, buy it back. That's just, I don't know. It just gets right here. Yeah. You know, it's this guy right here. It's a, one of those deals of like, uh, yeah, I'm going to go buy a brand new 5,000 square foot building. This is the family home family territory That was lost and we don't know why it was lost But it was lost and the relatives all live on the same road might so I asked why I told Matthew and when we got Done is so my mom's family from Selma, Alabama similar situation where everybody lived

three four houses in a row on the same road and If one of those got lost it would be awful Yeah, I don't know that's a southern thing right Andy a lot of families like buy properties near each other Yeah, I don't know. It's it's really cool because people are just walking back and forth between houses and but it's I Just thought that was so cool because everybody's like oh, I'm gonna buy a mama house by grandma house Which I think that's amazing when you do that anyway, but to do it this way that was so cool because everybody's like oh, I'm gonna buy a mama house buy grandma house Which I think that's amazing when you do that anyway But to do it this way is just so cool and infer to be the goal that you have that

And to have already gotten to the point where you know, you've accomplished that's got to be something. So yeah totally Rooting for him and it's like so funny you watch these guys on you know Twitter clips and breakdowns and NFL network and you watch their route running ability on the stuff and then you actually talk to the humans. Yeah. Because like you separated when you watch T Mac as a player you watch Golden as a player you look at him as a player but then when you sit down and hear him as a human. Yeah. Like your perspective on the person. And Matthew Golden has talked about this so he had a tough upbringing where there

were times when he and his mom didn't have a place to go and so this means an awful lot i think it's so cool now we have another cool interview though because is a guy who covered matthew golden this past season in a game and and

was the other fastest forty time at the combine and that's max Harrison from Kentucky. And these guys, I mean, they're dogs. You know they're dogs. And they don't get in this position without being that way. But Maxwell Harrison, really interesting discussing his college career and how he planned it out

before he went to Kentucky. And I think a lot of people are gonna fall in love with it because there's a large portion of the college football community that's becoming disenamored think a lot of people are gonna fall in love with it because there's a large portion of the college football community that's becoming disenamored with the way that people are driven. And I think that that was highlighted in the last two weeks with our number one topic.

Yes. But to find somebody who kind of approached it in the, I hate to say it because it's not the old school way. Yeah. In the way that makes people feel connected to that person. But the thing is he didn't miss out on NIL like he still made NIL money and all that he just did it In the more traditional way because that is the way he thought he could be the most successful and I always knew that like as You get older you might be like oh back in my day

Or this is the way it used to be done And I hate being that person that tells the next generation what they're doing wrong. But I think in football specifically, and this isn't a Nico jab or anything because it doesn't apply to him, but I think that the number one thing that we're seeing missing in younger players that are going through the process in high school and freshman year is the lack of patience and the Rich Rod said the word and I don't want to be, I'm not, I'm not trying to be like old guy thinks young people are entitled.

Ari's yelling at clouds again. But, but it, well, there are a few up here. But like the entitlement factor is one thing, but I think the entitlement factor breathes into the more contagious thing and the more harmful thing, which is impatience. Yeah. And he, he went into it with a very patient attitude. It wasn't that long ago where-

Which most 17, 18 year olds don't have. The plan doesn't always get paid immediately before you get to college, get to college, play immediately, and then go pro in three years and then get paid there. And then go to another school if I don't play immediately. It used to be totally acceptable, reasonable, and normal for a five-star prospect to go to a place, know it's going to take two years to play and then be awesome

in year three. Like it's like now if you're not awesome immediately you feel like you stink and you've got to go to a place that will address you as a person. Like there are five or seven five-star prospects from the 2024 class that come to my head immediately of like You weren't even at your school long enough to know whether you're good before you're leaving. Yeah, and It's just a shame because I do think that in some cases people leave and they go to new places and they're better off For it, but I think at times people leave too early go to a new place and are worse off for it and it's a case-by-case basis the way that every kid's different but there is something to be said about patience and understanding that there's a plan and that everything in life is immediate. Exactly. And Maxwell Harrison had that figured out way earlier than most of us do. Here is Maxwell Harrison.

All right, we're here with Maxwell Harrison. So Mad Max, Kentucky cornerback, soon to be somebody else's cornerback. Ari asked this question of one of the guys that's seen your ball. Was it Mason Taylor again? I think it was everybody because it was unoriginal. I had never thought of it this way before though. So I have to ask you this, like in a couple hours, somebody's going to tell you where you're going to live. How weird is that?

Honestly, that's why I like I'm so anxious because it's like, where am I going? I it's like we're we're the family going to fly out to every week. Like, you know, where am I live? Where am I bring my dog? So it's like, man, I'm excited, but I'm so anxious. Kind of dog. Yeah, I got a Frenchy Frenchy. Oh, my gosh. Oh, it's a burning blue.

His name blue. He has the most like so much personality That's why I love the French. He's like he literally like a bad child. I Mean, I just like the thing about that though. That's so interesting is like you could be here Yeah, which is like kind of in the middle of nowhere, Wisconsin, but also the most charming city I've ever been in in my entire life or you could be like in LA like or a beach It's gonna be cold. Is it gonna be gonna be warm the water is real estate gonna be expensive is gonna be cheap things that I'd be concerned with yeah it is that all comes into play for sure I don't know if you have a girlfriend but it you

know she's got to like where you I want to get to playing all that stuff Yeah, what are we doing? So I yeah and here you've got every I know people Around here think the Packers may be going corner. So is it is a little weird thinking maybe Maybe hey, I've never seen this in person, but man, this is a humongous feel so I I would not be mad at that Well, this and you've played in the SEC. So like you've been to Neyland Stadium. You've been to the swamp You've been all these places this year. Yeah, I was crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I have to say Neyland on Halloween We played at Tennessee where I think three years ago now. They were all black say Yeah, I had had the flashlight like right on the middle with doing the corn toss

Then they turn the lights on you got shade orange black orange black little bit of blue That's the family It was overwhelming Yeah, I was at that game. I it was crazy. Unfortunately y'all were a little little over But that's okay So I I get asked we were talking about this before we started recording you didn't get into the portal Yeah, but you didn't you were a star right away at Kentucky You like you but you said you made it a point that you weren't gonna be the guy who gets into the portal

You were gonna try to figure out how to develop where you were. Yeah, when did you come up with that that philosophy? So honestly, you know that started in high school like even before I committed to Kentucky just thoroughly going through every scholarship opportunity that I had and making sure that I committed one time because I wanted that to be the first short school for me. And when I decided on Kentucky, you know, you committed to Kentucky. I signed the national letter of intent to Kentucky. So I went there to graduate as well as enter the draft from Kentucky.

And I told myself coming in like, okay, hey, you you a buck 50 you're not playing your freshman year so let's just go down here get adjusted get used to being away from the fam you know get used to being in the SEC and when it's your time it's your time so for then the first two years I'm just learning I'm being a sponge I'm I'm taking things that the guys who are before me you know what they did you know Carrington but he's on the Packers and I was behind him my uh was sophomore year so it's like just learning from those guys instead of looking at it as I'm not playing I'm never gonna play here woot-de-woot like not it kind of feels like you know giving up to me and I I don't want to do that at all I want to stay loyal to

one program build a legacy at one program. Well you're thousands of people who watch this you know are gonna love you because I think that there's just such general thought that like college football is just not the same anymore, that people bail too easily or they're not into it. But you were there the in like it was the NIL or the whole time you were there and you didn't. Yeah because and you know people look at it differently and NIL has drastically changed college football but I'm all about just like I wanted to build a legacy man. That was my big thing and I felt you can't really build a legacy if you're going from place to place and I just you know Kentucky's big on recruiting and develop and I just really bought into that. I trusted what they had for me,

I trusted the plan and it got me here. That's a pretty good sales pitch there from Mark Stoops right? Especially because like Kentucky has been a built program from where it was maybe 15 years ago because he relied on Michigan kids, Ohio kids, a lot of Ohio kids. Do you think like you're the poster boy of like Kentucky's just general plan as a program? I do. I think I represented everything that Kentucky wanted to do and that's literally Recruit and Develop and the coaches they really do bind to you there like Coach Stoops and Coach Mero and even coaches that aren't on staff like you know I got rock Oliver that just helps along with football

Just people I can talk to and resources that kind of keep me going and you know Even when times was frustrating when I thought I should be playing a little more Sophomore when I thought I could get out there and they just let me know like hey You know they have a plan for you and at the end of the day, it's already written So I just trust the process and committed to it. And Andy real quick too, the UK facility. Oh it's nice. Beautiful. I don't think people realize because I went out there for a story and I was with Vince Mero and I was with Coach Stoops. You know Vince. I was like walking around I was like I've been in a lot of college football

facilities this is like one of the best ones that must have been nice What's the food like in there? Oh, it was good. We had the chefs there every breakfast. You know, I get an omelet, I get some over medium as I switch it up every day and then lunch and dinner, they got to spread out and pick what you want. So, hey, no, no complaints about that. I went from one 50 to I'm one 90 now. So that tells you how the food went there. From two 20 to three 20. So you're growing up in suburban Detroit.

When Kentucky comes to you, what was the thought there? Because I mean, it's obviously it's far from home. I'm sure there were teams in the Midwest that were recruiting you. What was it that made you choose Kentucky? Honestly, just something that stuck with me was so in my high school, Ron Bellamy was our head coach and he would have showcases every year went on coach at Michigan. Yeah, and um My freshman year like he let everybody everyone's included freshmen sophomore junior senior and I was out there my freshman year and

it was a bunch of teams out there a bunch of colleges out there and all there's a lot of guys getting scholarships and stuff and Kentucky didn't offer me that day but they were the first school that I talked to. And like, that just stuck with me. And once, you know, the Michigan teams didn't do their job and Kentucky, you know, they was consistent from the start to the end. And I just felt like family.

And I was getting recruited during COVID, so I couldn't even visit. Oh wow. So you're going sight unseen. Wow. I'm FaceTiming with Coach Stubbs, Coach White, and we just built a strong connection. I'm talking to my dad because my dad was my agent before my agent, so he helped make that

decision as well. And he just like, I feel like this is home for you. I felt a genuine relationship with them even before I arrived on campus. How was your dad the agent? We've been talking a lot about dads the same thing for the last couple weeks. So before I had Ed Berry, which is that man. Oh, Ed Berry. Ed Berry works for CAA. One of the best agents in the business. Definitely. So I'm blessed to have Ed now. But before Ed, before I even got to college,

it was my pops. I'm going to like, Dad, what you think about this? Dad, you think I fit their scheme? Dad, is there too many corners on the roster? Like, you know what you think about this that is there too many corners on the roster like what you know what you think and man he was just like I go to my dad for everything he's been a hell I'm guessing by the way your career worked out he went about it a different way your dad didn't cuz this is this is what I worry about with my own kids like yeah I think they're perfect I think they're amazing yeah it sounds like your dad could take a pretty realistic view of sure you were and what you were as a player

How important was that it's so important like because my dad he's gonna he's gonna be honest with me Rather that's you know badder, you know, whether it's stuff I want to hear I don't want to hear it's gonna keep it real and not you know as I grow up I just learned to appreciate that more and more and because you can't You can't sugarcoat certain stuff because then you're setting me up to expect a handout or something from everybody else that I mean and that's just not how the world works so him keeping it real from the start like that just really drove me to have this mindset that I have now to just put my head down and work. You know we're not here doing

this live Andy but can you just feel the hive of Ad Max fans? Oh yeah what's it been like the last few months because I'm sure wherever you go people see you in the airport like max We need you on the Buccaneers. Yeah, we need you on the Falcons. Yeah, we need you on the Packers like and you're like I love Atlanta. I mean Tampa. I mean, how do you daddy handle it? Honestly I just hit him with, it's not my decision. I can go wherever I do go to. They're getting the hell of a ball player. So what do you do between when you're done here in the draft? Like, how do you prepare for this?

Get to get swaggy. That's my big thing. I get to throw the suit on, put the jewelry on. So that's what I'm looking forward to. We've seen these shoes. We've got footage of the shoes. So you signed your Adidas seal yesterday. Yesterday.

What's that like signing a shoe deal? Man, that's another thing coming true. That was something I always wanted to do growing up, signing with a shoe deal. Be the face of a shoe company. That's just crazy. And to be able to receive offers from all the big three brands was just, man, it was a blessing.

So we're going to get some Mad Max Ultra Boosts.. Hey hey. They're coming. That can be in the near future. So we're wearing cow print Adidas right I don't know if we could see them on camera. I got a B-roll. I got a B-roll. Don't you worry. So did you throw the cat like when did you get those and did you do it because we're in Wisconsin? So I actually got to so I met up with like Adidas and like my guy Matthew He's that's like my guy. So where you have a guy at it. Yeah, that's my guy Okay, he showed me these and I was like, yep I'm a size 11. I need those ASAP

So I knew when I put up to the factory to kind of suit some content and stuff I was like, yeah Matthew where my shoes at? But they're also like culturally appropriate Spotting America Yeah, but like they're also like culturally appropriate Think about it like that roof you can make cheese out of those bad boys Culver's I gotta ask you because you are a Midwestern guy, but Michigan in Wisconsin not not quite the same flavor of Midwest Yeah, have you eaten a cheese curd before I had okay, so we're cheese curd cheese curd fans You know what I love from Cul. Oh, it's a spicy chicken tenders. Oh Hands down. He's a fish sandwich guy

You big fish guy or I am I love everything so when he interviewed Mac Brown the North Carolina, Texas coach Yeah, they bonded over fish sandwich There's two types of people in here in this world. There's I love fried fish sandwiches and ignorant people. So there's no, you know what I mean? Yeah. And luckily, Matt Brown is an enlightened one. He's not ignorant. You are too. Yeah. Hey, well, this is I'm glad because I was wondering about that

because we got like we're talking to Mikel Williams He's from Georgia. Like I don't think he's I don't know if he's eaten cheese curd before so It might not have done that you you've already experienced the I'm already on base one. I grew up in the south and didn't have until much later in life And I was like, why what have I been missing my whole life? So telling you I love fish seafood Chicken burgers everything like well you that's, you experienced it all in the SEC and growing up in the Midwest definitely so Got a few hours teams making their final decisions What is the team that picks you?

Getting in Maxwell Harrison and they're getting one just a positive and a very energetic player That's gonna leave it all on the field like I'm An empty the tank even at practice and during games and ma'am just a feisty corner That's gonna get you the ball back feisty that that's the word I would use because there's two types of corners Definitely there's corners you want to cover and there's corners who? Understand that their job is to stop the person with the ball to sure and you are you are the one who comes up and run support for sure We did you were you like that even 150 pound guy listen so actually a funny story with that

School I was that I just want to cover yeah lying back as I handle the run I just want to cover but when I got to the SEC they let me know real quick Hey, if you don't want to tackle you're not playing so I was like go ahead get that just a cover corner thing I got to do everything that's the thing watching you against Texas like you know You're hitting tight end coming over the middle and I mean Gunnar Helm is a big big big dude Talk about big and you are just your shoulder pad right in his solar plexus and driving your feet and I mean he has like a hundred pounds That too like you know they talk about weight and all that stuff, but man, honestly, it's a mindset I have the mindset to wear I'm just not gonna

I'm not gonna let you bully me and you can think I'm small I don't got strength, but hey you can find out real quick that you gonna feel these shoulder pads with me So you know they think that's so crazy to me Is that like you're like the nicest sweetest guy and I mean that in the nice And I feel like I don't know how people switch it from being like very pleasant, nice and personal. We got some Culver's footballs, all handy one and he can tackle you.

I'm not doing this with him. I like our vibe, I'm not trying to mess it up. So yeah, that's where Mad Max comes into play. Yeah. Like when I'm on the field, it's all business. Like of course I'm having fun with my brothers when we make a plan stuff But you talk trash to though. Oh

Come on. Well, I don't most I don't press the corner done talk trash I don't know if you're gonna be if you're comfortable with this. I hope you are What's the most foul thing you said to somebody and this is there's no All I'm gonna say is all I'm gonna say is 20 23 against South Carolina was Spencer Rattler was there, when his face was completely red, just know I said something that was, I probably wouldn't, I wouldn't be happy

if my grandmother heard me say that. I'll just leave it up to that, but yeah. Soon as I make a play, or even if I start off just feeling good, I'm gonna get the chirping. I'm gonna get the chirping. Yeah, that's amazing. If the Saints pick you, you and Spencer might be really

No more bad blood when I was training the XOS and Phoenix he was down there against them Oh, we was able to kind of I remember you It's kind of like he walked in I seen him. He was it personally offensive. I Have to know face turned red. Are you what do you think? And I mean you can see it through the helmet so it's like it must have been something. Yeah okay well you're gonna tell me when we turn this off and I will relate to the audience. Alright for sure.

Maxwell, good luck. Thank you. Have fun tonight. Super excited for you man. Thank you. Can't wait to see you in the suit. Just go away. And like the thing I want to say before he goes, Andy, is I know we're here, this is a spectacle and all this stuff, but when you are a first round pick, like we're expecting you to be tonight and you did this your whole life and you did it the right way and you took it slow and you were patient the light like regardless of what happens here to get to this point is a accomplishment to come true congratulations on thank you on reaching your oh I gotta ask since we've already talked about bringing your pads.

How hard are you gonna hug Roger Goodell? Oh yeah, I might hug that man like that was my mom or something. I was already asking him early, I'm like are we gonna dab each other up or we shake hands? I gotta hug for you regardless. Give him a hug and hold that jersey up, but be proud of yourself too because it's not something a lot of people obviously can do. So that'd be great. Roger's getting wind knocked out of his face. I can that'd be great I was getting wind. I'm just Don't make his face red on that

Thank you Maxwell, thank you That is Mad Max Fresh off signing his adidas deal Yeah, if he gets picked by the Saints Mike, I guess it's not gonna be awkward with Mr. Reller now He's got it. They buried the hatchet. I know what he said, by the way, I guess it's not going to be awkward with Spinsereller now. They buried the hatchet. I know what he said, by the way. I can't tell you.

It's pretty foul. You know why. I know why he did not repeat that on air. But the thing that's interesting is that we went into that interview, me feeling like an old geezer yelling at a cloud, and then you replays that that that interview in your head and it's Just like oh, yeah, dude that that guy's legit like I don't know even if you're a new school guy And by the way, we are new school guys Like we're always proponent of max out your deal and yeah get what you can and do what I think he maxed out

His his deal in a different way. Whereas I'm sure he was paid very fairly at Kentucky But also he's going to be a first round draft pick Yeah, which is the ultimate maxing out and you know, you know my tendency on the show Andy where it's always just like Don't bring up old topics that you discuss don't bring a bold topic But like I have to like push down my Kentucky can be good takes Because he epitomizes everything that I think can happen there like Vince Vince Merrow and Mark Stoops and their their Roadways into Ohio. They just need to get a few more of that.

And that and getting him is hard. Like not everybody, you say we're going to recruit you and develop turns into a first round draft pick. That's not a, that's not an everyday thing, but I think that if you know the plan and you can continue to prove it, and it's been that way with multiple players, Lynn Bowden comes to mind. I know he didn't pan out in the league, but you know, he was a pretty high draft pick like guys like that, that were overlooked by the big time big 10 programs. And you know, they don't have room because Ohio state and Michigan are taking guys from

California and Florida. Excuse me. Sorry about that. Um, their scholarships are used on guys. Those scholarships are taken for the Midwestern kids don't have a spot, they've got to find it elsewhere. And like Kentucky has been a great home for that, especially because they can be like them. Like is Kentucky in the South, like geographically? It depends on where you're from.

Like is Lexington the South? If you're from as far South as I grew up, no. Lexington is really close to Ohio to me. But where does the South? No, it is. I mean, Kentucky's definitely in the South, very much in the, in the Southern footprint. Okay. But, but if you can drive to Lexington from Ohio and people don't understand how close Cincinnati is to Lexington, how close Columbus is to Lexington. Like it is a very easy drive.

Cleveland is an hour and a half north of that. Like, you can get like Lake Erie kids to feel like you're a local team when they didn't get the offers. Like he said in the interview that Michigan and Michigan State can do their job. Well even Detroit to Lexington is not that bad. No, I know. Anything that you can wake up at 6 in the morning and be there by noon is a doable thing. Yeah, so you saw exactly what they hoped to have. They probably need a little bit more of that now a school that Does keep getting guys like that lots of guys like that

They have a couple national titles in the last few years to show for it is Georgia Mikel Williams is the kind of guy that Georgia they just seem to have a factory Well, the funniest thing about Georgia is that they've been so good at recruiting nationally that they've even ignored players that are really good in their own state and it's not what happened here, but it almost did. It was another one of those deals where USC got kicked. I don't think they were ignoring him. No, no, no, I know.

He liked Clay Heldin at USC and then they fired Clay Heldin. Ignoring is the right word. Thank you for correcting it. But they haven't been as successful as you would think. Everybody goes, Georgia is one of the best jobs, if not the best job in college football, because it's so centrally located to Atlanta. But if you actually go look at the recruiting results from the past four or five years,

they haven't dominated the city of Atlanta the way you think they were. And Mikel's from Columbus, which is where you get some serious Auburn connection in there too as well. But he was going to USC. He was lock stock available in USC. And so for other Georgia prospects in the time since.

And then, yeah. But in his case, they fired Clay Hilt and he's like nah, I'm gonna reopen this thing. Yeah. And he winds up at Georgia and just in line as one of those great Georgia edge rushers that is a freak of nature. Probably doesn't put up the kind of numbers that he could have put up at another school because there's so many other freaks of nature. Yeah. But he's gonna be a first round draft pick. He's just the latest Georgia dog. That's exactly right. But it's probably too good to be the latest Georgia Philadelphia eagle.

Yes. Unless the eagles really want to trade up. Here is Mikel Williams. Joined now by Mikel Williams, Edge from Georgia. What is this like knowing you are hours away from a crazy phone call? Man, I'm just, I'm just excited to be this close to it and to get the call and just to feel the emotions that are gonna go through my body. But after I'd get the call and to be celebrating with my

family so I'm just excited and blessed to be in this position right now. So do you have to like make sure that you're just in a good place with good service? That's what I feel like with me I'd be like I just make sure the What if it calls it come? This is a problem yeah, we need to make sure you can hear us because then when the GM calls you You got to be able to hear them. Do you've worried about service and bars when you're watching it on TV or what? Now hopefully man, hopefully not I got two phone phone numbers that I gave them So if one of them don't work, hopefully the other one will. He's got two phones. This is smart.

I never even thought about that. Yeah, you have like one from one company and one for another company, just to make sure. Cause it's a GM call. So what is this last few days been like for you? Cause the haze in the barn, you've done your workouts, you've done all your running of the 40s. How does it work when you're just waiting?

Yeah, man, like you kind of said, the Hayes been in the barn theoretically, as you said. So I've just been unsustaining, shaping shape and count down the days to this moment. I really just trying to seize every day and get here in the best shape I can be and be ready to go play after my name get called. So that's really where I've been at these last couple days since I'm just waiting. What are you gonna do for the next few hours?

You just watching draft coverage? Yeah, it's on the TV right now. Like, yeah, I just got it rolling. And I'm gonna change in about an hour or so, two hours or so, and just get ready to bring it in with my people. So we were talking to Matthew Golden, the Texas receiver, and he was saying

he can't read mock drafts, he can't watch any of that stuff because it just makes him nervous. I was looking at your Twitter. You're like retweeting Baldi breakdowns like that doesn't bother you. No like I don't care like like I don't worry about this stuff cuz I'm not the decision maker at the end of the day like and then I really one thing I realize is the decision is gonna be the decision no matter what so like I like and then I retweeted the body because I'm a huge, he was fan of Barton. I love his breakdown.

I just felt honored that he did one of me and my game. So that's why I retweeted that one. But I, the ultimate honor for football play, right? Yeah, it is. It's gotta be nerve wracking to not know where you're moving. Right. Right. Well, it's like crazy to me. It's like, is it going to be mountains? Is it going to be ocean?

Is it going to be a cow country like we are right now? Or is it going to be the South? Like what kind of guy are you? Like in what way? Like what city do you think would be great to live in? I feel like every city had a pluses and their minuses, but you know me, I prefer to stay somewhere in the southeastern region or something. But you know, if that's not the case, it's just not the case.

I'm not tripping or anything. It's just not what I prefer. Well you grew up in Columbus, you played in Athens, but you were committed to USC for a minute, so you were prepared to go to LA. That's what I'm saying. See, like, yeah, like, I can't go and adapt to a new surrounding like LA. And I thought I was actually going out there for the longest until they fired my coaches that I was committed to.

So, like, I'm not really too caught up on the city. It's just like, I'm just ready to find out where. You strike me as somebody who would thrive in an ocean community, don't you? I think Mikel would thrive in any community that has quarterbacks that need to be sacked. Whatever guy put me on this earth man, that's what I deserve to be. What do you think the best part of your game is and what do you bring to whoever picks you?

Best part of your game is and what do you bring to whoever picks you? Uh, best part of my game. I feel like, I feel like the best part of my game is probably my run stop and ability, and then I say the energy that I play with and then, uh, yeah, I say those two things first thing kind of mine. It's interesting because guys who play your position a lot of time, they're, they're worried about sacks, they're worried about numbers. You set an edge better than just about anybody in this draft. How much pride do you take in that and how much work did it take to get to this point?

Yeah, it took a lot of work. I take a lot of pride in me. This is something I've been working on since I really started playing football, since I started playing the position really. And then, I mean, that's what it is really, just pride in my performance, pride in my craft. And that's why I go out there and I kind of play with the ears that I do.

I feel like it would be a very nerve-racking day, obviously, for the joking that we were doing about what city you're going to, where your next job is going to be, how are you going to adapt to the NFL, but how do you think playing at Georgia and seeing so many players go through that program and not only get drafted but thrive in the NFL, like does that ease your mind in terms of like your preparation to take that next step? Yeah, I definitely feel like I'm prepared. I definitely feel like George prepared me the right way. They kind of put us in every situation that they could to kind of prepare us in the right way and show us what it would be like in the next level.

Then I also got guys that I'm closer with, that I got relationships with just in the next level right now. They'll be able to reach back and tell me advice and tell me things to watch out for and things that I should do and stay away from and stuff like that. We saw Smile Mundan at the senior bowl, and we were joking with him. We were like, have you started looking for apartments in Philadelphia because they just say Georgia players.

But like they won the Super Bowl. They ain't getting you. So do you tell like Jalen Carter and those guys like, sorry, I'm not gonna get to see you. No, man, no, they kind of know what they sell. They just mute them. What is something about the draft process that people like me and Andy or people watching the show might not know? What did you go through that you didn't anticipate? It's long. Yeah, I did not know how long the process was and

like how intrinsic it was like and and how much you how much you actually had to do like it's nice it's not a bad thing but I made it through it but it just I realized how much went into it I was interested I was listening to one of your interviews I think it was on at pro day at Georgia and then you had another workout because you said you'd been doing a lot of straight ahead speed work and you were gonna come back and do another on field workout because you were gonna'd been doing a lot of straight ahead speed work and you were going to come back and do another on field workout because you were going to do some more lateral workouts before that. Like did you ever imagine when you were in high school that you'd have straight

ahead workouts and lateral workouts and that's how they're going to decide where they pick you. Right now. I know sir. I didn't. I didn't but they just the state we in right now and it's the times we in so I just gotta roll with the punches. When you're going through all the workouts about like how good you work out like does it like annoy you to know that the tape should speak to itself and and that you're just a good football player and they shouldn't pay too much attention to this like you know like we all have things that we have to do

in our jobs that we don't want to do or we think are stupid. Like as a player who's prepping for the NFL draft, do you like in the back of your head go like, what's the point of this? Great question. Nah, nah, I mean, cause it definitely has its purposes, but there are definitely moments,

and there are definitely moments where you feel like that. And there are definitely times where you be like, why don't we just go first to the tape or go look at what we've done on the football field versus looking at how fast a guy can run 40 yards or how fast a guy can touch this line and that line. But, you know, the decision makers, they know and they watch the tape and they know who who's a good football player so I just leave it

up to them. This is looked at as a really deep edge class and there could be a bunch of you guys going in the first round tonight. Are you kind of competitive with each other? Like is it important to be the first one or the next one or? Yeah, no, no. Yeah, it is. It is for sure. Like there's definitely a goal to be, even not the top guy, one of the top guys that comes from my position. But I necessarily don't put too much starter

to into competition with other guys. But I definitely will take note of a lot of some guys go in front of me, that's definitely be noted but Like we will you do the Amon Ross Saint Brown like list their names every day? No, it's not gonna be I'm gonna know who I'm gonna know who went in front of me What is the weirdest question somebody from the NFL asked you during the evaluation process? Weirdest question. I don't have a weird question, but I have like a strange interview.

Sure. Okay. The strangest interview I give to the Patriots. What were they asking? No, it was just the tempo of the meeting. It was just kind of strange. It was just like how they ran. It was kind of weird.

It was, it was different for me. Everybody else meet. That's why I get to him. That's why I get to him. Brave was very different. Now he's a player himself. So I don't know. He's very different. Well, that's what I'm wondering.

When the coach is a guy who is not just an NFL player, but a really good NFL player, how much does that change it? No, I mean, it necessarily don't change things because he's still your coach. Like your coach is your coach at the end of the day, no matter if he was Deion Sanders or a guy from the local high school that just worked his way up. Your coach is your coach and he's there for a reason, but it's just like, you do have a different sense of respect for him for what he say because he went out here and did it himself. And he can show you that he did it himself. So like, you do got a different type of respect for him because he played the game. Hisself.

I've always wondered about that with Kirby because Kirby is the only coach in the SEC who is an all SEC football player. Yes, like. Does he remind you guys or does anybody at Georgia remind you like Kirby was actually a dog back in the day? Right that's what he brings into our program like that dog mentality, that hard work mentality he came up with. So that's why I feel like Georgia was just so great and I feel like it's going to keep

turning in that direction in its leadership. When you guys lost your quarterback in the SEC Championship game last year it seemed like the entire team kind of rallied around Gunnar Stockton. Then obviously now we're all kind of curious about what UGA is going to be like next year and what kind of leader Gunnar is going to be. What can you tell us about him and what it was like watching him try to take that challenge head on, you know, playing in the playoff and what does the future look like for him? Yeah, man, I came in with Gunnar and just to say, man, I got complete faith in Gunnar.

The moment from the moment Carson was down and Gunnar had to step up, I came in with Gunnar and just to say, man, I got complete faith in Gunnar. From the moment Carson was down and Gunnar had to step up, I believe in his ability from that moment on all the way to now. And I probably never stopped believing in Gunnar, just because of the type of guy he is and how he works. He showed up every day to work with the workmen mentality with his lunch pill and his hard head and he goes and grinds and works on his craft. So I believe in Gunnar and I feel like he can take his team to new heights. So we got to let you go soon,

but how big is this party going to be in Atlanta? It's going to be pretty big. I'm celebrating with all my family, man. It's a really close people to me that I feel like help. They helped me get to where I am today. So it's going to be big. Who gets the first hug? Man, grandmas or little sisters, one of them.

Can I ask one question because I'm obsessed with this and I view it if I were in your position and what I would do. What's the first big thing you want to buy for yourself? For myself? Yeah like what do you want to do with it? And I probably I probably give myself like a nice house where wherever I go or something like that like well I might give myself like a nice watch or something like that Yeah He's wearing a Rolex right now. It's It's a bluesy Submariner. Okay, alright.

Alright. He's already got his eye on one. I can tell Mikel knows which one he's getting. I feel like every man should buy a watch because it's the one thing that they can have for the rest of their lives and pass down to future generations. Right. 100%. Wow. Don't 100%. Wow.

Don't look at me. I got the worst watch of this bunch right now. I was looking at you. It's like time for you to step your game up, bro. Yeah. Wow. Mikell, you show off what you got. I want to see posted on social media, whatever you end up getting.

And I will try to win the lottery and get one of those. Oh, man. You ain't got to win the lottery. It don't those. Oh man, you ain't gotta win the lottery. It don't cost too much, but I got to though. Appreciate you. Well, Mikell, thank you so much. That is Mikell Williams. He's probably gonna hear his name called.

There will be some hugging. I don't know, I don't know what his situation is. So I don't know if there's gonna be any sort of girlfriend box out going on. I love the girlfriend box. I love, there was one a couple years ago that just cracked me up because the girlfriend went it was it was a Will Levis it was somebody else in that draft it was it this was not in the green room this was in this was in a

house it was it was one of the at-home ones and the draft pick happens or the GM call happens and you see everybody start to stand and girlfriend starts to go for the hug and mom just boom, like perfect box out, like gets her butt up in there and just boom. Yeah, what's up? Andy's got groupies.

We got a guy in a Russell Wilson jersey. I don't know, who, we got fans in Seattle, Russell Wilson jersey. I don't know who say no who who we We got fans in Seattle in Green Bay very yeah, it's always good to hear You know people who listen of course you watch my I'm grinding on Ari Yeah, that wasn't the best look for me personally, but you know yeah, you know take some on the chin you move on but like the the girlfriend box out things hilarious and Yeah, I hope to see some big moments for girlfriends who think they got rich tonight And moms and mom who were like moms are gonna know me. I'm yeah, not tonight. Not tonight Enjoy the draft. We'll talk to you tomorrow