Andy & Ari On3 - Notre Dame BATTLES BACK vs Penn State in CFP | Irish headed to title after a CLASSIC Orange Bowl

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

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Welcome to an Andy and Ari on three instant reaction presented by Wendy's. I'm here at the Orange Bowl. Ari watched it all. And oh my God, Notre Dame is playing for the national title after one of the craziest finishes you will ever see because it looked like Penn State had a chance to win this game or at least just sit on the ball until overtime. And then one of the worst interceptions you will ever see, which if you didn't agree with a previous

pass interference penalty, Ari, you're calling it ball don't lie. But it sets up Notre Dame for an easy field goal to go to the national title game. And Notre Dame is going to play the winner of the Ohio State Texas game for the national title game and Notre Dame is going to play the winner of the Ohio State Texas game for the national title. Ari, we got to work on your mic here. Put the sign up.

I'm in the stadium. I just found this spot like two minutes ago. How's now? There we are. Sorry. You still can't get it going. Mute button when you move it. I'm saying it's a week of shows to unpack what just happened there. Both it might from like a Notre Dame perspective and what this means for them to advance the national championship game. But do you want to start on the end there first? Who do you put that on?

I don't even know who, is that a Franklin thing or is that just a bad throw? It's a Drew Aller thing, that's a bad throw. It's interesting because what was our knock on Drew Aller last year was he's too risk averse. He never threw the ball into danger. Tonight, he threw the ball into danger several times. Now, the first Notre Dame interception that got wiped off the board for defensive holding, that was a legit call. That was absolutely defensive holding. They dropped the flag before the ball was even thrown. The second Notre Dame interception in the end zone that got wiped off the board was for pass interference on one of my pet peeves.

When the quarterback throws in a double or triple coverage and under throws and a DB who's just trying to occupy the space he's allowed to occupy gets flagged because the receiver can't fight his way back five yards through for an under thrown ball. Like, so that's why I'm saying that interception, if you wanna call it ball don't lie, the last one, the third one, then you can.

But if he was under pressure and he just did not pay attention to where he was throwing it, I don't think he had any idea where he was throwing it when he let that ball go. Yeah, yeah. I'm kinda happy that the 20 minute reaction that we're doing right now

wasn't just whether that should be PI or not. I think we both agreed that the under thrown ball played it so much. It is so much. Yeah. But like I feel like both quarterbacks had moments of wow, that was really good in this game. And and both quarterbacks had wow moments of really bad. Like you're not going to talk about the Riley Leonard pick that he threw, you know, in the tie game. It was terrible. Terrible throw too. So yeah, there's a great play like that. That one, Danny Dennis Sutton made a pretty incredible play on the ball, but it was a terrible throw. Like neither quarterback covered himself in glory. But so I'm trying to pay I was scrambling around at the very end the pitchy woo-woo play at the end did that start with a pass to a

receiver was that Penn State's first completion to a receiver all night no no they had a pass on the touchdown drive the go right down drive you're right you're right that's right I think you're right and I believe the pitchy woo-woo was Tyler Warren but it is kind of, you know, I don't know if it's funny or however, I guess, depending on what who you're rooting for, but like Aller through the ball last and it sailed out of bounds. It's like the accurate the accuracy of the throw that could have extended the game, not that they would have scored on that. But it just kind of seemed poetic to end that way. But I know that's exactly what I thought, too, is like, oh, he, he's just sorry He's just throwing it out of bounds. He he's not even completing this and

It's it's crazy because we talked Quite a bit and we weren't the only ones the the NFL draft industrial complex was talking about this If drew aller were to ball out tonight and they were to win and they were to go to the national title game And he would have a great game there like he could be the number one pick in the draft That's why he's coming back to Penn State Everything draft. That's why he's coming back to Penn State. Everything you saw tonight is why he's coming back to Penn State. Yeah.

You know, and I think he knew better than we did. Like, I just like, I know that they have really good running backs and tight ends, and I'm not like excusing Jor-Aller's performance, 11 to 22 for 139 yards and an interception the interception that cost him the game. You just don't have any receivers that can open either.

Like there's no no no separation whatsoever. I turned to the assembled hacks in the press box during the game and I said imagine tomorrow night when we're watching receivers get separation because both teams have receivers tomorrow night who can get separation. Neither team it felt like for a while tonight had anybody who could get separation out. Jaden Greathouse decided to be the MVP of the game in the second half. Yeah. He's just going off. Jaden Greathouse would be the best defense team run defense team coach Jordan Faison,

right? Correct. Yes, they either one. I just think that you know, but Tyler Warren is so good. We undersold a few things about Penn State this week. We didn't or you didn't. I do. I underestimated how good Tyler Warren was. And I don't think that we gave enough credit to how good

Abdul Carter was like between Tyler Warren and Abdul Carter and then denied Dennis Sutton to like Penn State had the ingredients to win that game. And I think that's probably what's most frustrating for Penn State right now because they really did beat the crap out of Notre Dame for the entire half first half. And then they played a pretty 5050 game with them the second half that should have equated to a win. And I don't know if you want to go down the road of James Franklin chokes or whatever. I don't think I want to do that. I think I don't think we need to I think they They played the game they needed to play they didn't make the plays they needed to make to win the game

I do want to point out one thing I don't know who this who made this play and I apologize for that But the Notre Dame offensive lineman that wrestled the ball away on the fumble that Steve Angelli had right after he got in the game. How that's the biggest play of the game. If he doesn't get that back, they lose. Yeah, no, there's no question. I still like don't even know. I haven't even seen the replay that I don't know how they didn't go back. Okay. Notre Dame lost Riley Leonard and Rocco Spindler, their right guard, on the same play.

They lost their left tackle earlier in the night. The true freshman who'd been playing since Charles Jagasaw heard his, I think he tore his peck in the preseason. Charles Jagasaw is back now. He came in at right guard for Spindler, had the key block on that first touchdown that Notre Dame scored. Like, Notre Dame has overcome so much in terms of injuries. Like, they had two more starters go down tonight, two offensive line starters.

They had their quarterback go out for a period, their backup quarterback came in and played an incredible series and got them a field goal. Like, it's amazing that this team is here, that they're going to play for the national title with what they've dealt with. Yeah, you know, I tweeted in the first half when NAP went out that they've had the worst injury luck in the country and I think I made a lot of Oklahoma fans upset and you know if Oklahoma's number one in Notre Dame is two that was there wasn't the point the point is that. Competition. Yeah, I don't know like you don't get a trophy for having the worst, the worst injury luck but you know Notre Dame has overcome quite a bit. And you know when you think about the defensive line that Penn State possesses to lose your left tackle, somebody that has been playing really, really well that early in the game with

the way that Penn State's defensive line was getting after it was like, how did they win? It's like, how did they win that football game? And you know, I think that when you really look at the reason for it, there are 10 different players who stepped up to make big time plays in that game, whether it be the recovery of a fumble that you should have lost to a 60 yard touchdown reception where you make someone miss in the, in the defensive backfield and run a beautiful route to get people out of position to score Riley Leonard getting first down after first down with his legs and in crucial moments. And you know, frankly speaking,

not giving up when Penn State had the ball and looked like they were going down to win the game. Like Notre Dame could have quit so many times in this game alone. And you know what really stood out to me, and I'm sure you probably didn't see this being in the press box and at the game, Andy, but like every single time they interviewed Marcus Freeman, I think it was two or three times during the game in very high tense moments, like right before half and I think heading into the 4th quarter, that dude was not even 1% shook. Like we talk about like, not enough men on the field against Ohio State last year, that was the lead to your column. Like when you think about how much this man has grown as a coach in a 1-year period, it's

pretty remarkable. Like, like I, you could sense that Notre Dame wasn't going to crap its pants because the moment was too big under his leadership. And like, if you had any questions about Marcus Freeman and his ability to move forward as the steward of that program, after what you watched tonight, like a team that could have lost for 10 different reasons and won for 10 different, different reasons,

like it's, it's an unbelievable testament to their coach and their leadership because any any other team could have folded in that in that environment and like in the middle of the second quarter I thought they were cooked. They were cooked and they weren't. So it looks like we lost Andy here. And I think the reason for that is that he's in the press box and the news conference is starting here pretty soon. So, you know, it is just an unbelievable achievement, I think from the Notre Dame situation. Okay, he's back.

Sorry about that. I knocked my own cord out of the computer, the cord that goes from the camera to the computer because I was scooting, so we didn't accidentally put a live television broadcast on our YouTube feed because we respect everybody's copyright here. So, yeah. We're not trying to get sued.

No, but I am with you, Ari. There were times, multiple times, when it looked like Notre Dame was completely dead. Now, I saw in the chat, as I was fiddling with the computer, somebody asked, why didn't Penn State just run the ball? I do not have a problem with them trying to win the game there. I really don't.

Like I get it, it's probably safer to just run the ball and then go to overtime, but you're gonna have to try to throw it in overtime. You're gonna have to try to win the game at some point. I do not have a problem with him trying to win the game. Obviously it was a terrible throw that drew Alarm made He should not have thrown that ball. He was under tremendous pressure He did not look like he knew where he was throwing it because it was nowhere near the receiver You know, it was interesting too before that play Andy When Notre Dame had the ball in the previous drive and it looked

like they were going down to try the game winning field goal attempt, there was a moment where they zoomed in on the broadcast at Riley Leonard third and one conversion and they showed Aller on the TV and like he like put his head back like in like frustration and it just like looked like he was just not. In the mindset of like let's get the ball back and let's go win this thing. And I don't wanna be that dude who watches on TV

and draws too many conclusions based on body language while watching the game. But like I was a blown away by Marcus Freeman's body language during his brief moments. But I also was kind of appalled by the body language that I saw from Aller and what turned out to be the defensive possession that Penn State had, or the defensive situation

that Penn State had before they got the ball back and he ultimately threw that interception. So it is, you know, such- Well, Freeman's ability to be calm during interviews is amazing to me because the Jeremiah Love touchdown, the run he made, the two yard run where the first tackler comes at his legs and should have chopped him down and he jumps it. And then he sidesteps and then he gets hammered and fights his way through it for the touchdown.

Marcus Freeman looked like he wanted to run on the field and make a block on that play. Like I don't know how he goes from that level to when he's, was he talking to Chris Budden or Taylor McGregor? I can't remember, but when, and he's like, yeah, we just need to make plays. And when they're there for us, I don't know how he does that.

Yeah. And continued to be aggressive. And I thought that like too for a while there, it seemed like Notre Dame was trying to set up for a 50 yard field goal at the end to try to win 27-24. And he drew up a really beautiful play with the game on the line in a high-level moment. Mike Denbrock, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, to be on, and obviously what Denbrock's done at Notre Dame, at previous stops, you know, it goes. And obviously what then Brock's done at Notre Dame in previous stops, you know, it goes without saying that he's a veteran offensive coordinator that knows how to do that. But like I just was really, really blown away. And I think that your column echoed this earlier in the week of just like how much that staff and then Brock wasn't there, but to bring him in and the leadership that they have at Notre Dame like, know I don't know this was probably be a Friday night or Saturday conversation between the two of us in terms of how we view the national championship matchup for Notre Dame to even be in this position with the injuries that

they've sustained and the leadership that they had in a game where frankly speaking Andy Penn State beat the shit out of them in the first half in every aspect. Like I have no idea. Yeah. Penn State looked like the vastly superior team on the line of scrimmage in the first half. And we know that Notre Dame is a good team on the line of scrimmage. Like it looked like Penn State was utterly dominant throughout most of the first half. It took it took that Steve Angele drive to really wake Notre Dame up to to wake up the

echoes if you will, it was finally things started to go right for them and that first series of the second half, the the Mike Denbrock script, I'm assuming it's a scripted series, the first series of the second half, was just brilliant and it was they finally started to see the fruits of their labor, like they finally started to see the fruits of their labor. Like they finally started to open some holes. They started to gain a little bit in the run game. It allowed Riley Leonard to get confident,

you know, to have some time to throw and not get heated up every time. It's a big deal. And you know, think about some other people involved here. You mentioned Mike Denbrock coming from LSU and obviously he's worked at Notre Dame before. Al Golden, the defensive coordinator. I watched Al Golden fired in this stadium when he was the head coach at Miami. Like think about that. He's gone to the NFL, he's come back, he's reinvented himself as this dominant defensive

coordinator and they didn't play their best defensive game tonight. No. But they stood up when they needed to. You know what I always marvel at Andy and Matt Hitehouse here put this in the cut in the comments and Paid four bucks for it. So I just wanted to throw it up here. It's Freeman now a top five coach Maybe even top three will probably discuss that on episodes this great question to make a case for that. You know what I I Marvel at Andy in the game of football because it's so physical, right? Like the nature of the game is so physical. I always marvel when a team is beating the crap out of another team's lines

on both sides of the ball for two full quarters. Like it didn't even look like Notre Dame had a shot to block them. And then for Notre Dame, how do you flip it though? Like, it's like, how do you I don't know, because like Notre Dame flipped it, right? Well, and if we asked Marcus Freeman, if you lost Anthony Knapp, your left tackle and Rocco Spindle or your right guard, like, if you lost them for the game, and you were losing badly, when they went out, would you have a chance? Yeah.

But Tosh Baker, who's a fifth year senior, who has been a backup at Tackle, has started a couple games over the years, he came in at left tackle, he did a good job. Early on, he struggled a little bit. Like Danny, there's a play where Danny did a sudden, like points at him, like, I'm coming right over your ass, and then he does, and you're like, uh-oh

This thing will work but he got better as the game went on and then Spindler goes down same play that Riley Leonard went out and Jagasaw comes in and he looked awesome like you understand why they wanted him to replace Joe alts at left tackle and I just like I marvel at that because I Also know that like Notre Dame's offensive line next year is going to be spectacular. But the thing is, they're going to play for the national title with this one this year. Yes. And the hope is that guys will be able to come back because it didn't look like anything

with nap. And you know, you have what? 10 days to kind of try to get things right there. But you know I thought that there were a lot of players in this game Andy that came out of nowhere and played well whether it be backup offensive lineman or Nick Singleton had what the best game of his career or one of them in that game. I thought that Abdul Carter was a menace and you felt his presence on every play. Denied Dennis Sutton, huge gatehouse for Notre Dame. There's a lot of dudes that showed up in big moments tonight. So I know that Penn State is probably pretty bummed right now and rightfully so because it felt like for at least half of that game that they were gonna advance

the national championship. And if you have the ball with with two minutes left you know you in a tie game you you have an ability to go win and then you lose like that it's painful but like i thought they had a great season you know and it's a shame that somebody had to lose that game but it was a tremendous game and i thought a very evenly matched game in terms of like they could play again tomorrow and i wouldn't know who's gonna win um james franklin just started his press conference by the way so i can i can hear that in my ears and he's't know who's gonna win. James Franklin just started his press conference, by the way, so I can hear that in my ears. And he's giving credit to Notre Dame. I'll be curious to hear what some of his responses to questions are.

But while we're talking about James Franklin, while we're talking about Penn State, Ari, I'm with you. They had a great season. They made it to the Final Four, which is something they could not do in the 14 playoff era. I don't think there's any reason to hang your head about the way this season went, like come back next year, get back here and do it again. There's no reason they can't like they recruit well enough consistently. They, I think Andy, Andy Coddle, Nikki was the right hired offensive coordinator. I thought he did a great job on the game too.

Didn't you? I thought they called it great. Yes. They need to get better receivers too, didn't you? Yeah, they called it great. Yes, they need to get better receivers, which they needed to last year and they didn't. You need to go do that. Go get better receivers, either develop them or go find somebody in the portal, but go get better receivers.

It's not complicated because that is what's holding you back. It's like the thing too is that we came into this game knowing that both of these teams were somewhat deficient in that category. And, you know, like for as good as Tyler Warren has been and I think even tremendous as an understatement. You know, at the end of the day, your weaknesses, personnel wise, have a funny way of showing up in these games. You want to know why? Because the other team that's really, really good is going to expose you and put you in a position to have to rely on those things and eventually it comes back around to haunt you. And like that's what it is. I feel like if Penn State would have had one really really good receiver they would

have won. You know and it's funny we were talking about big 10 West and how the big 10 will rise again, watching this game and stuff. And it's like, how do you get to the fourth quarter of a game that sent you to the national championship? I don't care how good your tight end and running backs are, not completing a pass to a wide receiver. Like how do you get that far? That's the answer. You don't, you don't do it. And they didn't. It's, you know, I say ball don't lie on that last interception because of the call

that erased the other potential interception for Notre Dame. Ross, it's also a ball. It's also ball don't lie because you don't have receivers who can get separation. Like your passing game struggled all night because of that. We can pin some of that on Drew Aller. We can pin the throw on Drew Aller, the one that ultimately doomed them

But we can't pin everything on drew a la because you're our doesn't recruit the receivers Yeah Yeah, so you know what? Yeah, like I know people are gonna be down on drew a la he had a pretty rough game out there And you know in the first half to he missed a lot of you know passes down the sideline to people who were open And yeah, why there's a they had to settle for a field goal when they had a wide open wide open touchdown on a quick route from the two yard line, you know, um, two picks in the red zone or basically in the end zone that were pulled off the board because of a penalty, you know, it wasn't a great showing from him,

but I don't know that I hang my head down as a Penn State fan and go, well, this guy sucks. We can't be good or get back here next year. No, he can come back and he can get better. And the whole point, like I said, he knew better than us. When he said, I'm coming back, he knew better than us. Like the whole point of him coming back is to get better. And so that he's ready when he goes to the NFL,

but also maybe so that he can lead Penn State to a different place, because you have to have these experiences. If you don't have these experiences, sometimes they work out the first time, but a lot of times you need to be there and then learn from them. Like Quinn Uris talked all week about

getting to the playoff last year, losing to Washington, how much it drove him. Like we hear those stories every year. That's true. Our next year. It's hard to envision in the minute after the game ends, but you know, Penn State's going to have a pretty veteran team and you know, they're losing some guys, you know, some of their best players, but they also have an opportunity, you know, having showcased their ability to win postseason games to hopefully go out and get some guys that can make a difference next year on an already loaded team.

So, you know, it's, I just like, I don't know that I come away from that game feeling like, oh, Penn State choked or they blew it or whatever. And I think that's going to be, I thought that they played a tough game. I'm more impressed by Notre Dame's ability to work through their issues that are also apparent. And by the way, you know, remember, when we're breaking down this game, whoever they're playing, Texas or Ohio State next week, like I'm probably picking the other team.

And I've been on Notre Dame all year, but it's just the same roster deficiencies that came around to bite Penn State exist for them to a certain degree. Especially compared to those other two rosters. Yeah, right. So, you know, you know, I think that I feel pretty good about the bracket that I put together. And I don't know what it's going to look like here, you know, come tomorrow night, but it is a testament to Marcus Freeman and his team for getting here. Like I'm blown away by by the job that they did tonight.

Yeah, what they overcame in this game, because when their most critical injuries happened, they were getting their asses kicked. Like I don't think we can undersell that enough. Like they were getting destroyed in the first half and in the darkest moment like when they lost the quarterback in the right guard on the same play that's when the light came on that's when they started playing and maybe well maybe that wasn't it maybe it was when I and again I am so sorry I'm not giving proper credit to the offensive lineman who stole the fumble back because he he made the play of the

game because right after that is when everything got better That's when everything got better. It was the first drive of the third quarter Because no no this was that was the last drive of the first half No, I know but I'm saying in my opinion the game change I didn't know yeah half time thinking that Notre Dame's back like saying in my opinion, the game change. I didn't know. Yeah. I'm thinking that Notre Dame's back. Like I thought it was. It went from Penn State is kicking. Yeah, it went from Penn State is kicking Notre Dame's ass to oh no, these two

teams actually do match up up front. Yeah. Um and I saw some people tweeting out. Uh I think Notre Dame like led the nation in point differential in the middle eight. Um this year and the sugar bowl middle eight was about as about as dominant in middle eight as you'll ever see a team have exactly and then this one here. I think they they outscored Penn State 10 nothing to to you know get back into the game and and that those are critical moments of you know and credit to

Angelli for coming in and you know delivering a good ball personally speaking. I know people thought that he might have been the guy to stay in if he would have stayed in he would have gotten his head knocked off. I think that Riley Leonard's ability to evade pressure was a pretty remarkable thing tonight. I don't know how much we're gonna talk about it because he didn't have any explosive run plays,

but the consistency to just use him as a battering ram. He kept so many negative plays from happening. Yeah, I think how many times that he's just stepped out of the pocket. Those are hidden yards. If you turn a negative eight into a zero or one, because you either scrambled out and gained a yard you scrambled out and through through the ball away. Like that's, that's a gain of eight to me or gain of nine to me. And he had, I want to say like, six or seven of those tonight. I wanna say like six or seven of those tonight. Yeah. How many sacks that he evaded and, you know, turned into first downs.

That's a good point about Angelli because I remember looking at Twitter at the start of the second half when Riley Leonard comes back in, like I tweet, I see him come out, I start, he starts throwing warmup passes and I tweet, Riley Leonard's throwing warmup passes. And it, everybody who responds is like,

they should just leave Angelli in. No, if they'd left Angelli in, he would have gotten annihilated. Yeah. And like Leonard's mobility is what allowed them to continue running their offense. And the reason why Angelli wouldn't have been able to survive already happened on the final drive

of the first half. They just were fortunate enough to get that fumble back. That would have been the entire second half. So it is funny to read perceptions of how people believe the game is going while it's happening. And I fall victim to this too a lot of just prisoner of the moment stuff. But again, the thing that I think I will take away from this game more than anything, more than the injuries, more than the coaching poise, more than the

calls, more than the feelable, more than Aller's pick is the fact that Notre Dame went down players, was able to revert the vibe and the feel of the first half, which was every single time they snapped the ball, Penn State was beating the crap out of them. Yeah. Turning it into a fair fight in the trenches in the second half and making it, you know, a game where you didn't know who was going to win the rep and the, you know, on the line of scrimmage. Cause like to me, I felt like the entire first half was defined by Penn State,

just eating them alive. And you know, it's not easy to flip that script in this game. Maybe it's death, maybe it's, it's being in better shape. Maybe it's all mental. I don't know what it is, but they flipped the script from a physical standpoint, the second half of that football game. Ari, the national championship game is either going to be Notre Dame, Ohio State or Notre Dame, Texas. That's going to be something that's going to be it's going to be great. Cannot wait. And I'm, my hope is that you, uh, are able to take off in the morning and can watch this game with me tomorrow in person because it's going to be unbelievable. I am very much looking forward to it and super excited to continue to break down Notre Dame and Penn State and you know listen Andy we have a lot to talk about I mean that there's a lot to unpack there and you know talking about we didn't talk about James Franklin I think we need to have a

Franklin discussion I'm seeing a lot of fire in the chat. A Frank James Franklin discussion? Franklin discussion. I'm seeing a lot of fire in the chat Frank James Franklin discussion. He's Franklin discussion Yeah, he's he's answering questions now and You know, I don't think there's anything earth-shattering people giving him a person there. Have you heard anybody not really? He's yeah He's just he's just trying to get through this I think tonight is it? yeah, this has got to be killing him because he was this close to he was right there and You don't know as a coach or a player, if you're ever going to get back to this, it's like, you know, Dan camel with the lion said that to his team after they lost the NFC championship game last year, like this is going to hurt guys. Cause we may never get back.

And I think that's the feeling probably James Franklin is feeling right now. But the thing is, if he keeps doing what he's been doing, just go get some better receivers, you can be back. You can do this again, and you can win it next time. Yeah. And you know, the 12 team field, you know, affords you the opportunity to get hot the way that they did, or to get an advantageous path the way that they did, or to win your way in the hard way. You know, like there's a lot of different ways a team can do it. And I think that we found that you can lose to NIU and still make it this far. You can lose to your only tough game of the year and still make it this far. You can get an advantageous draw and make it this far. You can have a really hard draw and make it this far. There's a

lot of different ways to do it. Penn State has certainly shown they're capable of doing it at least one way. doing it at least one way. Ari, I'm gonna go talk to the Notre Dame players and coaches. Lovefield ground crew, I'm rooting for you in the morning. I'd like you to do a good job and I'd like to see you guys and then then I'll see Ari and then I'll see the Buckeyes and the Longhorns. Ari and I will do a show together tomorrow night from Jerry World. I have been tracking the weather, Randy, and it looks like it's gonna snow between 1 and 3 a.m. so hopefully the four or five hours in the morning once the rain stops allows them to clear this thing up and get some planes to land here so I'm pulling for you and just keep me posted in the morning and if not we'll do a show I'll be that's right you won't

but we're still going to have a show so we're looking forward to it guys this game was beautiful I mean it's fun gold Gold helmets, striped helmets, Penn State crowd and white Notre Dame crowd, green. Like it was everything you could have possibly imagined. If you weren't, if you're watching on TV and thinking that looks as intensive of a game as I've ever seen, it was. It was. It absolutely was.

It was tremendous. So this is, this is fun. This is what we wanted this tournament to be. And as it comes down to its conclusion, it feels like the games are getting better. So Notre Dame is going to the playoff. The final, the national championship game. James Franklin just said the sun is gonna come up tomorrow,

but it probably doesn't feel like that right now. So Ari, when the sun comes up tomorrow, hopefully I will be in the air about to see you. So we'll talk to you guys tomorrow.