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Episode Date: November 7, 2024

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Welcome to Andy and Ari on free Happy Thursday. It is a dear Andy and Ari day. We actually got a great question right out of the box that even well this person asked it before this news came out, but it turned out to be a very prescient question because we got some interesting availability report news. So I'll start with this question from Pat, who is a Virginia Tech fan. Your old colleague Andy Bitter, who we used to work with at the athletic, great reporter covering Virginia Tech, remarked about injury reports or lack thereof creating multiple potential gambling related issues following Kyron drone surprise sit out against Syracuse. That's the quarterback for Virginia Tech. Remember, nobody knew he was out until like five minutes before kickoff.

Specifically, Pat writes, noting that player staff could become targets for information. What are the current rules regarding injury reports and is this a concern going for the NCAA or conferences going forward? It's absolutely a concern going forward. There are no blanket rules. Each conference has its own rules.

And we're gonna get into the ACC availability reports because there's some very interesting ones this week, including an Ole Miss availability report has 24 players on it, heading into the Georgia game. But the ACC is interesting, used to have these are like they used to have injury injury availability reports and the coaches were so bad about being honest on them they just gave up on The SEC is the only one of the power four that has really come up with a clearly defined. Here's the report. Now you see stuff like what we're going to talk about with Ole Miss where there's a million players on it, and we're not sure if it's a smoke screen or not.

That's it's actually what the Patriots used to do when Belichick was coaching, and they would put Brady on it every week Ari, but This is probably something that would Help if there was a blanket uniform policy Because that Virginia Tech thing was crazy like I remember I had I had put out a prize picks play that had Kyron drones on it Earlier that morning. And then it came out that he wasn't playing. Yeah, and it's like that is the exact purpose

from a gambling standpoint of why you would need one, right? I mean, the quarterback who is kind of the engine of that team not playing and no one knowing at five minutes before kickoff. And funny enough, Collin Schlee came into that game. That's a name that's been floating around on the portal. Kent State, UNLV. UCLA was the second one.

I mean UCLA, not UNLV. Kent State, then UCLA, yeah. But I had lost track of him. And when he came into the game on Saturday, I'm like, oh wow, I didn't even know he was on that team. Maybe I'm outing myself, but it is hard to keep track. And they actually were blowing the doors off of Syracuse.

They played Syracuse over the weekend, and then they gave up a bunch of points in the second half and ended up losing in overtime. But yeah, you know, the question is, What is the actual purpose of them? Who is it serving? Yeah, and the thing is, and this is what our pal Andy was talking about with the current drones case. It does make trainers, medical people, assistant coaches, analysts, you know, down the line type people who aren't making millions of dollars. It does make them potential targets. If someone wants to pay them for information, And you got to be careful with that because this sort of thing

can move quite a bit of money around, and there's an integrity of the game part of it, too. So if you have to say this person's hurt, then at least the books know to keep their, you know, adjust the lines, keep the names off the props. You know, that's the thing you gotta think about. Because obviously you're gonna take every Kyron Drones prop off the board when it comes out that he's out, but if he'd been on the injury report or the availability report, as what the SEC calls theirs, on Wednesday, then I don't think he would have been on any boards as a prop.

Yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And the funny thing about college football, Andy, and I think it's getting a little bit better. But the entire injury culture of the sport has just been to be secretive about it, right? Like, I mean, it's almost part of the game where it's like, if something happens or, you know, somebody gets injured and everybody in the stadium looks like there's no real updates. I mean, there've been coaches that have actually had, I'm not talking about injury policies, haven't there been? Oh, I mean, yeah. Kevin Sumlin, when he was at A&M, Chip Kelly at Oregon, and Chip Kelly always said, We don't, we don't talk about injuries. Like, it just wasn't a thing.

So you could, it's a nice pendulum swing back to, to the other side of it. But you have to find hard, fast rules that everybody has to be accountable for and follow if it's going to work. Because if you're not going to follow through on that, then what's the point of even having it to begin with? Yeah, and this is a, this is very interesting with this Ole Miss availability report that came out on Wednesday. So like Ole Miss and Georgia are playing each other. Georgia has six players listed on its availability report. The one everybody's wondering about is Smile Mund in the linebacker. He's listed as questionable. Ole Miss has 24 players listed. Now the player everybody was looking for

is Trey Harris, who in previous weeks has been listed as questionable. He's now listed as doubtful, but also listed as doubtful is Jordan Watkins, who blew up against Arkansas last week. And this is one that I, you know, I went on the OM spirit message boards and that right after this came out and everybody's like what what what they're trying to figure out what the heck's going on And you know a lot of people are saying oh lanes lanes just putting out a smoke screen. This is what

This is what you do And you know those those guys are probably gonna play like I thought this was gonna be where Trey Harris came back Because he's been out for a few games. He did show up in uniform right before kickoff of the Arkansas game, but they opted not to play him. But this is like, it's crazy how many guys are on this report. So JJ Piggies, the defensive tackle who they use occasionally on offense, he's listed as questionable. Jared Ivy, their great defensive end.

He's listed as questionable Jared Ivy. They're great defensive end. He's listed as questionable Prince Lee, man, me Ellen and Walter Nolan, Suntran Perkins. Those are all you know, Nolan's a D tackle. Perkins and Oman, me Ellen are edge rushers. They're listed as probable.

Uh, K Kaden Prescore, the tight end listed as probable. He missed the Arkansas game, so there's a lot going on with this thing, and I'm just I'm curious. how should we parse this? Sorry. Well, the question I have back to you, and I actually don't know the answer to this, you probably do, but are there, there's obviously rules that you have to put out this injury report. But what are the rules within the rule of being truthful or not gamesmanshipy about doubtful, probable,

questionable? I don't think they've got them hard and fast yet because this is the first year they're doing it. I think they're probably trying to figure out what works, what people do. Now, I will point out we are less than a week away from when Greg Sankey, the SEC Commissioner sent out a memo about teams faking injuries, which was very much aimed at Ole Miss memo basically said, knock this crap off. It was

basically the the Commissioner of a major sports league, saying, quit playing on my phone. And they're going to find coaches like if they determine that a player faked an injury to get a timeout, they're going to find coaches for it. So I'll be curious to see if that actually stops it. I don't remember seeing a lot of potentially faked injuries in SEC games last week right after that memo came out. in SEC games last week right after that memo came out. You know, Andy, too, we know how Lane is, right? And like, I can imagine why the message board would think that. But if there's no penalty for the distinction between doubtful, probable, and questionable, why wouldn't he just write doubtful next to these guys? But then at the same time too, you see like princely and Nolan on probable and preschooler as probable it's like, well, if, if those good players are

probable, then why are they doubtful if they're not injured or are they injured at all? Like it is an interesting look into like, this is the biggest game of his career. And they, what would you say? Five of their 10 best players are on this list somewhere? Like that's a pretty tough situation to be in with Georgia coming into town, and the hope is that he's being funny and messing around with the opponent. But really, like, I don't know what the distinction would be there,

and it's interesting to think about. It is, and it's a huge list. He's had a huge list earlier in the season and then they went back to a smaller list. The Trey Harris was the one we were watching week to week because they never did give any clarity on whether he was going to come back. I think where you where you get in trouble is if you got somebody who's clearly out and you've known they were going to be out and you don't put them on the list. I think that that'll get you in trouble. But remember they are guys on that list, right? There's almost 30 guys 24. So you have a quarter of your rosters is on this list. Yes, exactly. Now, it's interesting because like you go to the LSU Alabama list. Alabama has only listed two players. Keon Sab, the DB, Cole Adams, the wide receiver, they're out.

LSU has a bunch of players listed, but most of them are out. A lot of these are guys who, like Harold Perkins Jr., has been out for the season for a long time. John Emery tours ACL weeks and weeks ago, so he's been out. Garrett Dellinger, the offensive lineman, is out. The one you're really looking at probably is C.J. Daniels, the offensive lineman is out. The one you're really looking at probably is CJ Daniels, the receiver who is questionable. But that's not nearly the same thing as what Ole Miss did.

Now, one other name on an SEC availability report that I'm sure everybody's watching for was DJ Lagway on the Florida availability report. He's actually listed as questionable. Now remember, he got Carted off the field during the Georgia game with the apparent hamstring injury. Billy Napier said on Monday that he thinks that they got information.

The injury is not not as bad as it initially looked and that DJ may be able to play the questionable. Certainly makes you think maybe he can. I would. We were looking at this and saying, it's a hamstring, you know, I could see him playing against LSU, but hard to see him rushing it back against Texas.

But when you see him as questionable on the report, you're like, okay, maybe. Well, my thought with that one, Andy, is that if you have him as a backup in this game, or you feel like you could use him in a package for a few plays, or something, you have to at least leave the possibility that he could play open if you have any plans of him contributing, even for five plays, right?

So, like, you have to leave the door open for that. The thing that, of all these, that's most interesting to me is that we have information in two of the three games that I think we kind of knew already. The DJ Lagway thing is just kind of confirmation of what Billy Napier said earlier in the week. The Jordan Watkins thing makes me feel like we need to think differently about the entire game like that. Yes, like right.

Ray Harris and Watkins can't play or he's severely limited and Trey Harris isn't coming back either. What does that mean for Ole Miss is passing it? Yeah, and that I mean, that's a significant story heading into the weekend. So my hope is that both of those kids play because they're really, really good players and you want to see games like this with teams at full capacity, full strength, full speed. But that was kind of a shocker. And, you know, we're talking about the guy who, you know, proved that Ole Miss can throw the ball when Trey Harris doesn't play with the eight receptions for 254 yards and five, uh, man, five touchdowns against Arkansas. What a game. Like, and not to have that guy. You don't see five, five touchdown games very often in college football from a reception. He was the Walter Camp national player of the week for last week.

Yeah, I would, I can see why. So, you know, I hope that they're both okay and play. Yeah, I hope they are too. I really want to see as full strength as possible Ole Miss versus as full strength as possible Georgia, because I think this game could be awesome. We've talked about this a lot this week. You and I are actually going to this game. I just it's crazy to see that because it that these availability reports have added an entirely new dimension in the SEC this year like Wednesday night 8 PM Eastern time, you know, they're dropping and there's almost always something on one of them that you're like whoa.

Didn't see that coming. But I will say. It's better than whoa, didn't see that coming five minutes before kickoff with Tyron drones on Saturday. Do we even ever get any input on what happened there? I'm not entirely sure. Yeah. So it like because I remember I believe he actually warmed up some for the game and Brent Pryus said that he has a good

chance of playing this week. The quote is a good chance. So yeah, we'll see some of them for questionable. Yeah, they're playing Clemson. Clemson comes to Blacksburg. So yeah, if Kyron Jones plays against Clemson, we just saw Clemson lose to Louisville. That feels like a game Virginia Tech can win, possibly,

which that's a game Brent Pryne desperately needs. But yeah, so in the leagues that don't have the availability reports we're just guessing but I guess for at least one game in the league that does have the availability reports we'll also just be guessing so Ari when we get to we get to Vaught Hemingway Stadium on Saturday I guess we'll head out there and we'll see what Trey Harrison and Jordan Watkins and All of the 24 guys on the Ole Miss availability report are up to Yep

I'm excited to get there still hope to see the game at full speed Yeah, I don't think they're gonna tailgate before the game. I we might a little bit, but I don't think they are Ari This show is sponsored by betterhelp.com. This is a month to give thanks. I want to give a shout out to my guy, Dr. Matt, who's somebody I went to see a few years ago, and I was going through some stuff. And I feel like we need to talk about stuff like that. We need to be open with stuff like that. Because I think there's a lot of people who are afraid to say, Hey,

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But the Alabama LSU, I'm feeling very confident in, in terms of how we analyze this thing. Because I do think this is an interesting game. You know, a lot of times we do these prize picks previews and I say, well, this guy has to do more. If he's more than this in this stat category, then his team's going to win. I'm looking at Garrett Nussmeier's 288 and a half passing yards,

and I'm kind of thinking maybe it doesn't have to be more than that for them to win. LSU actually needs to be able to run the ball pretty well and not rely on Garrett Nussmeyer to completely throw them to a victory. And now this also will require LSU's defense to keep Jalen Milrow in check. But you know, we look at Aaron Anderson. The receiver, he's got a 54 and a half receiving yards number. Well, he's gone more than that for the last five games. Like I would feel pretty good about that, even if I don't feel

great about Garrett Nussmeyer going more than 288 passing yards. You know, it's funny, because you look back at Garrett Nussmeyer's performance in the second half of the Texas Tech A&M game, sorry, not Texas Tech, Texas A&M. And Andy, it was probably the worst half of football he's had as a starter. And then you look at the box score at the end of the game, and he threw for more than 400 yards and it was just like, there is a lot in the tank there for this kid. Like I really, really, really like his game.

And I just don't know that he's talked about nationally enough. And this is a pretty big opportunity for him to have a very good game in a big spot for his program, his team to potentially get back into the playoff discussion. Having Alabama in Tiger Stadium under the lights, I mean, what is better than that? And I just I feel like there is that second gear with him in this LSU offense that we have not really seen yet. Like I'm just waiting for them to explode one day. And like I don't agree with you. I think that he has to go more than that for them to win this game. I think they need to control the game. I the best they've played lately is that Arkansas game. They won 34 to 10. He threw for 233 yards. They ran 37 times for 158 yards. Now that's not a great per carry average. It's only 4.3 yards per carry, but it's good enough to keep control of the clock, not let tail and green get back out on the field and do much. And so I think

that's how you handle Jalen Milrow too. So it's not so much me thinking that Garrett Nesmeyer can't do this. I'm sure he can. Like if Alabama scoring a bunch of points, you cut Garrett Nesmyer loose and you let him throw for 400 yards. But the way to win this game might be to keep the ball out of Jalen Milrow's hands. Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm looking back at his game log here, Andy, and he threw for 285 yards, which would be below that number in the narrow wind of the South Carolina game.

And he threw for 233 yards and a pretty comfortable win at Arkansas, but he's been way more than in most of the games they've played this season. And I just, I know what you're saying about the rushing offense, but I feel like LSU is at its best when they're passing well. And I don't know if I would be like, Yeah, well, LSU has to just be something that they haven't been this year and just run all over. Like, I think they have to be. I don't think they're going to run all over them. I think they have to, they have to try to control the clock, keep the ball out of Melrose hands and not let him get comfortable because if there if there was a more than stat that I wanted to give you that would determine this game,

it's Jalen Milro more than forty four and a half rushing yards. If he goes more than forty four and a half rushing yards, LSU is in trouble. Like he did. He dominated LSU with his legs last year. We watched LSU. Like I just said handle Taylor Green against Arkansas, but then they go play Texas A&M.

They were doing fine when Connor Wegman was in the game and as soon as Marcel regot in the game, it looked like they had never played against a mobile quarterback before. And I realize they are practicing for a mobile quarterback this week, but this is the mobilist of quarterbacks.

This you know, Jalen Milrow is faster than a lot of wide receivers. Yeah, well, I would like to see Alabama work in a lot of designed quarterback runs into the offense. I think a lot of times when you see Jalen Milrow making those plays that you would see on Sports Center, He's escaping pressure and extending plays and kind of freelancing. But he is the, you know, he's really fast, but he's also like a well-built, thick kid that can, you know, get through contact. He's like defensive in size. I know. So, you know, in games like this, I think that that's kind of when you want to put your quarterback in a

position to, you know, make some plays. And I think I would not be surprised if Alabama had a pretty strong designed in quarterback run element in their game plan this weekend. One other number I like, and this is not necessarily predicting an outcome. I think Ryan Williams is more than 68 and a half receiving yards. No matter what happens because this guy, we don't have to mention his age, but he's a young guy. Uh, he just has a sense for the moment. I feel like Ari, like when it's a big game, he shows up.

Yeah. Somebody tweeted about this, about Ryan Williams during the election day. And he goes, you're telling me this kid can play in the sec, but he can't cast a vote. I thought that was really funny. Usually can go to war, but no sec was replaced there. I thought that was really funny. It's usually can go to war, but no, sec was replaced there. I thought that was really funny. And he is, he's just been spectacular and I'm excited to see him play. And I'm excited to see Garrett Nussmeyer play in a game of this magnitude with these stakes,

because like you said, Garrett Nussmeyer has not gotten a lot of the attention that a lot of the other quarterbacks have gotten, but he's been really good. This is a huge game. Prime time, massive stakes. The winner stays alive for the college football playoff. The loser is probably out. He doesn't get much better than that. Are you Andy? Who do you think the game is bigger for? It's equally big for both. They have to win. No, I'm not saying the teams. I mean the player. Like who do you think like the like between Milro and Garrett Nussmeyer,

like who do you think has to have? And I'm not even saying to win. I just mean for their personal aura persona. Like who do you think this is a bigger moment for? Well, Milro's had some moments where he like the SEC Championship game last year The Georgia game this year. He's had those moments. I don't think Nussmeyer's had that moment yet So I think he could he could use one So, I don't know if it's pressure on him to do that I think there's enough pressure on all all of the players in this game because their team Whichever team it, has to win it.

Yeah, OK, I could buy that. I just think that Nussmeyer could. He has more to gain from playing well, I think in terms of how people view him. Everyone's going to be watching. People have seen J. Lamille Rowe. Beat LSU before. Yeah, they saw it last year and it was a big

game and this but this is bigger. This is bigger because. The winner of this is still alive and it has a good chance of winning out and going to the playoff and the loser of this is probably out. Like if you look at some of these scenarios where how many how many different SEC teams could potentially finish 10 and two, like nine and three is not gonna cut it. You're gonna have to, you're gonna have to be 10 and two

or better. I don't want to torpedo the entire show, but who's, who's this bigger for coach wise? Oh, well, before we get to that, so if you want to play these squares on price picks, download app use the code staples play $5 get $50 instantly Do you think that it's more than for Nussmeyer for the passing yard? Do things more than for Milro or less than for Milro for the rushing yards? Go with your gut because I'm telling you right now. This is a very difficult game to predict

I don't think you can watch all the experts. I don't think there's gonna be anybody who who just nails it Go with your gut because I'm telling you right now, this is a very difficult game to predict. I don't think you can watch all the experts. I don't think there's going to be anybody who who just nails it. Download that price picks app code staples play $5 get $50 instantly. All right, before we get to our next dear Andy, dear Ari question, let us talk about which coach this game is bigger for. You know, I feel remember going into the Florida Miami game and we said it doesn't matter who wins or who loses the losing teams fan base is going to be ready to jettison the coach

and the winning teams fan base is going to elevate and exalt the coach. It's got some of that. Exactly. What's going to happen here? Yeah, you know, we've gone back and forth throughout the year, even starting with LSU's season opening loss against USC about Brian Kelly and the temperament of the fan base and their views toward him. And when we had T-Bob on the show, he

kind of assured me that it wasn't as bad as it might feel like. And, you know, that was before the second half of the A&M game and you know certainly before this so if they go nine and three this year and lose to USC and A&M and Alabama like that probably is not the track that you want to be on that said I don't know if the fire Brian Kelly pitchforks come out. Like I think that if Alabama loses, there's going to be a certain sect of people in Tuscaloosa that want to start over with a new coach already. Yeah, which is not going to happen. Not that they're going

to give, but they're going to give to bore more than that. But yes, it would be utter disaster. But I do think I do think there's an element of the LSU fan base that is like still not sure about Brian Kelly. Pretty frustrated that that great offense was wasted last year with that terrible defense and just wants LSU to be nationally relevant and and remember nationally relevant for LSU means competing for national titles because his three Predecessors won the freaking national title like there's no other coach in America who has to deal with that

Like the three dudes before you won a national title. Yeah look well easy. It is not easy You also got to take into account the way that he went there, too Like I mean he was already at a place that people thought was a destination legacy job. Yeah. And he went there to do that. So how many years? I mean, you're the one that loves to say in this era of college football, it doesn't take three years.

Like, what if we go into year four and it's just not going well? You know what I mean? Like that a certain point. Exactly. But I feel like if you're winning 910 a year, you're just a few players away and that's what he's going to say. Look at this recruiting class we got coming in. It's going to be fine. So but it's a lot easier to say that if you beat Bama and if you got a

chance to go to the playoff. Yeah, I mean, I think LSU is able to overcome the season opening loss to USC and make the playoff as a 10 and two team. I think that would be a successful year for them. I agree. I agree. And for Alabama, if they don't make the playoff, it's utter disaster. It's, you know, Paul, a lot of Paul, a lot of Paul, lot of Paul a lot of that like I will say fine bomb on Monday will be Epic if Alabama loses. Mm-hmm T Bob's postgame show on Saturday will be epic if LSU loses our friend T Bob and then T Bob Aver and Matt Mascana who do the whiskey and wine show where they're kind of hammered Occasionally after the games and they just go in on

On LSU after losses usually so We're gonna get it one way or the other It's just a matter of of which media outlet is going to get the the, or going to be the beneficiary of that loss. Yep. Because somebody's losing. There are no ties, not since 1996. So, oh boy, it's awesome. I love this. I love that it's zero sum essentially right now for this game. All I know is that on Saturday night when you and I are together in Memphis going live at 10 30 or 11 30 Eastern time, if nothing else happens in the day, those two games, the one that we go to

in the elevator, like that's the whole episode. So like we're exactly and something else will happen. Like there are other, there are a lot of other games that are gonna be really interesting. I we've talked about Colorado, Texas tech a bunch this week. I think that one's gonna be fascinating. I am just, this is going Indiana, Michigan could be really interesting.

Penn State, Washington could be really interesting. So this is gonna be quite a weekend, but yes. Those two. Could carry it if even nothing else happened. All right, all right, let us. Let's move to, uh, to a dear, dear, Andy, dear Ari question. This one comes from our friend Tyler. Could we see a scenario where the loser of the SEC or Big Ten Championship game is left out of the college

football playoff in favor of teams from their conferences that didn't play in the game? This is the first version of this question I've got, I feel like I've gotten a version of every other scenario question. This is the first one of these I've gotten. And I've got to tell you, I don't see it. I don't like,. I don't. At this point- Try though, try to come up with a scenario where it could happen.

Well, it would be somebody, it would be an SEC team. Well, okay. An SEC team that makes the championship game with two losses but has two conference losses but has a non-conference loss. So that would be Texas A&M or LSU. So it would take probably, I guess, because LSU probably has to beat Alabama here to make it, to get the tie break to make it, or to have a chance to have the tie break to make it.

But then maybe lose to Vandy. Because they do have any other schedule. I don't know. I still don't know. They may they would need lots of chaos to happen like they need Ole Miss to beat Ole Miss to beat Georgia, Tennessee to beat Georgia or Ole Miss to beat George and Georgia to beat Tennessee and then somebody else to beat somebody like maybe they need

Vandy to beat LSU in Tennessee at that point knock them out. I don't know. I'm looking at A&M because I think that you're on to something there with the non-conference loss and A&M has that loss. Yeah A&M could be that too and so it would mean you go into the SEC Championship game at nine and three because there was some some chaos elsewhere and you lose and you're nine and4. That's the only scenario I could see. That's not happening in the Big 10. Well, like if Notre Dame, or sorry, not Notre Dame, if Texas A&M were to go lose at Auburn on November 23rd, get them to 8-3, then beat Texas to get to 9-3, and then lose to Georgia, then would be 9-4. They would be out. They'd be out. Yeah, they'd be out. So there is, that's the scenario. It's not happening in the Big Ten because the

records are just gonna be too good going into the Big Ten. You've got a team, you've got two teams that are probably gonna have one loss that don't play in it when it's all over with. So it's gonna be hard for the team that makes the impossible for the team that makes the championship to be any worse off than them. So yeah, no, I don't think it's gonna happen. Yeah, at this point, I don't foresee any scenario where there's a participant in the Big 10 championship game that has more than one loss. Right? So they're in. But yeah, I think that that is a possible the A

and M when you just laid out, and I'm sure there's an LSU version of that if they beat Alabama this weekend, but then lose to Vandy. And they're probably something that you've got to have some other things happen too. But it's possible, but because of those non-conference losses.

So good question, Tyler. That wouldn't be, we have to be in a place where you do not get penalized for being better and making an extra game. Like, I just, it's stupid. I agree. I agree completely. That is my greatest fear is that,

remember, you can't be higher than five if you aren't a conference champ. But I would like to see 5 and 6 go to losers of Conference Championship games who earn their way to Conference Championship games and not see those teams get penalized and then drop below teams that didn't make that same Conference Championship game. Jim Collison I'm with you 100%. And I also love the concept of avenging a loss. If you lose to a team early in the year and then you beat them, I feel like your loss should go away. Well, I think there's probably people on the committee who feel that way too. So, like, for instance, if Ohio State were to play Oregon in the Big 10 Championship game, and it's 12-0 Oregon against 11-1 Ohio State, and

Ohio State wins, I think there's a very good chance Ohio State is the one seed in the playoff. Yeah. And I don't know that that's the best case scenario, because you're probably going to be talking about teams who were ranked 1-2 going into that game if they play again. But there have been instances in the past of teams that are on the cusp of making it who are not going to because they lost

to a team when they play that team again. And I think that like, if you are on the cusp of making it, who are not going to, because they lost to a team when they play that team again. And I think that like, if you are on the bubble, or you're a team that is... So UNLV? Yeah, but then again, if they were to beat Boise State in the Mountain West Championship game? Yeah, like, here's the thing, how about this? What if UNLV loses another game, still makes the... Well, they've already had Syracuse lost too. Yeah, but if they lose another game and they still get into the. Mountain West Championship go to Boise and beat Boise, I think that their

resume should be looked at as if they never lost the first one. Well, we'll see it's yeah yeah. And remember Colorado State is still hot day. Yeah. And remember Colorado State still undefeated in Mountain West play as well. So keep all that in mind. Ari, we are brought to you by Panini America, makers of the most collectible sports cards on the planet. We've been we've been ripping packs of the Luminance series with NIL autographed cards from players like Arch Manning, Quinn Uris, Cam Ward,

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a new to its conference team will win each big four conference. Oregon SMU, Colorado, and Texas. That is a very saucy take. I don't wanna take anything away from Dan, but I think I saw somebody at the beginning of the year predict this would happen. And it might've been Dan on another show or something, but that is there for the taking.

Like I- It is. Have been a believer in Miami since before the year started. I wrote columns saying, Don't make fun of them anymore. They're going to be awesome this year. Their lines are good. They've got great skill talent. Just trust the process. I feel like I can see SMU scoring like 45 points on Miami and beating them in the ACC Championship game. I think that that is on the table. That's it. And I take the over classic right there. And I think that like they were 10 or 15 to one before the year to win the ACC because their schedule, you know, frankly speaking, was pretty favorable for them to do this too. So yeah, the one that would be, which one do you think would be the most shocking? Not Texas.

I don't think Texas would be the most shocking, but I do think the sec is so rugged at the top. That it's very hard to say Texas will like definitively win it. I, you could, you could make a case for Georgia. You could make a case for Ole Miss if they beat Georgia, you could make a case for Tennessee, you make a case for Alabama or LSU, whoever wins that game, like there's a lot of cases to be made here. Yeah.

I mean, I think that honestly, if you would have said that SMU was going to win it without actually doing any schedule analysis, that would come off as pretty shocking. The crazy one. But Colorado winning the big 12 would be pretty shocking too, considering, you gotta put yourself back into what we thought

they were gonna be. Colorado's gotta beat Texas Tech and keep winning. They need somebody to beat Iowa State. So there's a lot, there's moving parts there too. Like SMU doesn't have as many moving parts. Colorado and Texas feel like they have the most moving parts of these. Yeah, yeah. But it's definitely doable. And it is a nice little saucy take there, Dan. Appreciate you joining us. Yeah, I like it. I like it. If you look, go over there. If any of you guys have saucy takes that you think can get the ghost pepper rating, send them in because we're doing this every week. And it's really fun to hear what you got. What your sick minds come up with. I love it. Exactly. Exactly. The minds at

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the reasonable Georgia fan. And we've had Nikhil ask a few questions before. This is a little long, but stick with it. We were led to believe logically that when loss and strength of schedule for playing in a tougher conference and schedule would be rewarded, the committee themselves overall seemed to relay that with their rankings

generally. When ranking Ohio State ahead of Georgia, they said both have quality wins, but Ohio State has the better quote-unquote quality loss. I guess we're still doing this, he says. But this makes sense to me, especially as how poor Beck and UGA have looked against lesser teams. But however,

how do they justify this is Notre Dame? Why are we as a country media general populace elevating Notre Dame after they lost to Northern Illinois? All caps not in not Illinois, not Indiana, not one of the best or even good group of five teams.

If Indiana replaced one of their non conferences with a loss to Northern Illinois, but still had their other strong wins and blowouts, the quote unquote, I test the committee claims they would not be ranked as high as Notre Dame right now. Based on the justification they gave about quality wins and losses, I see no reason why Notre Dame should be ranked

ahead of 6-2 Alabama, 8-1 SMU, or even LSU or Ole Miss. Basically a two loss team facing a much stronger schedule should not be ranked behind a team that lost two. Hold on, this is all caps again. Northern Illinois based on naming clout. Sorry, that's my rant. All this is safe, besides the deserving slash earning as a UGA fan, I would much rather play Notre Dame

in the playoff than Alabama. And so deep down, I'm not unhappy about it. That's pretty awesome. That's for the awesome. Here's my response to that. I like the circuitous pattern that Kiel took to like, well, they might play Georgia if they get in. Nikhil, can we run that? That was a good question.

I think it could have been a column. Yeah. You know where you're gonna see that show up? Fandy? Yeah. Is not in the rankings. You're gonna see it show up at the end. Like Notre Dame isn't going to probably get in with 2 losses. So you will be rewarded. It might not be showing up in the current rankings, but Notre Dame's tightrope that they have to walk in order to get to the field, like actually in it is a lot, a lot less

forgiving, right? Isn't that the answer to the question? I think so, but like we've talked about the possibility of an 11 and one Indiana not making it. An 11 and one Indiana has to get an over 11 and one Notre Dame, right? Well, this is the other part of the coin here too, because actually- Wait, unless the ones to Purdue? purdue no wait no because then they beat Ohio State Andy

This is what has me thinking a lot, okay because Notre Dame is ranked as high as it is Because of preconceived notions of who they are based on talent and program status, right? Like that's, if Notre Dame's resume was swapped with Indiana's, Indiana would probably be 17 or something, right? Like they wouldn't be anywhere near the top 8. So we have to acknowledge the fact that Notre Dame's ranking is in part due to the sum of its parts. That said, and this is an interesting thought exercise, but in the new era of college football, where we know less and less about how good these teams are actually going to be because of the sheer numbers of roster turnover on a year-to-year basis, basis. At what point does brand recognition, because Indiana is proving that entire concept

this year, which is Indiana's football brand is a nothing burger. No one knows it. There's nothing recognizable about Indiana's logo off of the hardwood. But if Indiana did a good enough job through the portal to assemble a great team, an Indiana team that I think would surely be competitive with Notre Dame on the field. When do we drop the preconceived notion brand correlation bullshit before we go into this? Because like you have to get like, the thing is, is that like Penn State took the brunt of my criticism. But in actuality, like you could have replaced Penn State with in actuality, like you could have replaced Penn State with Texas. You could have replaced Penn State with Notre Dame. We're talking about teams that have no clear, identifiable wins against quality opponents who are good because we think they're good. Well, Notre Dame does have a good win, which makes it a little bit different. But again,

It's a lovable count, right? I don't know. Yeah, so like that's the thing I struggle with. It's like, in the past, if Indiana was eight, no, based on the way the sport was set up, you knew, and I would even say beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Notre Dame was probably better than them, based on roster-for-roster comparisons of the recruiting rankings and the results of who they have on the roster.

But you don't know that now. I don't know that you know that now. Which is, this is like a good story. Like, like, we need to like, I need to, like, I might actually call in. I don't know if I'm ever going to be able to call in. I used to call into the teleconference, but now we're live. I can't. But I would love to ask a committee, committee chair, Ward Manuel, this question of, like,. Because if it doesn't, then what's the answer here? He's going to say it doesn't because they have to say it doesn't. They can't say it does. They can't say they can't give the stars matter answer that you actually would honestly give. But it would have been an acceptable answer to me two years ago. I don't think it's an acceptable answer anymore. It's definitely not. So definitely not. I think

I think Washington last year helped writing Michigan last year helped prove that. And like the thing that I got a lot on Twitter from Penn State fans, and I get that I upset them and it's fine. But everybody keeps saying, well, we know what would happen if Indiana had this schedule, or we know what would happen if Penn State played Indiana. And like the hypothetical bullshit is gone now. Like we do not know that. Like I, we do, we do not definitively know that Penn State or even Notre Dame is better than Indiana.

I am glad you brought this up Ari, because let's, let's roll into our next question from Jeffrey, because I think you're going to enjoy this one too Okay so Jeffrey Sends this tweet with a screenshot from a reddit thread and I actually saw this reddit thread if you're not hanging out on The CFB subreddit on reddit. I'm telling you if you guys love this show. That's a place. You'd love to hang out They're really cool people. Every once in a while we'll do an AMA on there.

So here's what Jeffrey, and now before I go on, Jeffrey is the one who tweeted at me in the summer that Indiana was gonna be nine and oh going into the Michigan. Jeffrey is a long suffering Indiana fan, drank the Coach Cigs Kool-Aid way before anybody else and said they're gonna be nine and oh going into the Michigan game. Jeffrey is a long suffering Indiana fan. Drank the coach SIG's Kool-Aid way before anybody else and said they're gonna be nine and oh going to the Michigan game. That's the only person that I have ever seen predict that. So

props to Jeffrey. Oh, producer River says we have something here. We have something. I don't know what we have but we have something. I don't know what we have, but we have something. There it is. I believe Indiana football can be a top 25 program. Of course, I'm 55 and it hasn't happened yet. Can coach Sigs do it? That's a question from right after he got hired from our guy Jeffrey. And then Jeffrey told me this summer 9 and 0 going to the Michigan game. Book it.

So let us look at these stats. So this is 2024 Indiana and 2023 Michigan after nine games. So bear in mind, this is when Michigan has yet to play Penn State or Ohio State last year. So Michigan 20, 2023 points per game, 41.9. Indiana, 2024 points per game, 46.6. Average margin of victory for Michigan, 35.2. For Indiana, 32.9. The, here's where it gets interesting. The opponent record for that Michigan team

at that, at this point in the season, 36 and 44. For Indiana at this point in the season 34 and 45 red zone efficiency Indiana's is actually better turnover margin they're dead even third down conversion rate they're dead even plays of 20 plus yards Indiana's team this year actually has five more than Michigan's team last year time of possession is almost a dead heat both are very lightly lightly penalized teams. They're very disciplined. Now through nine games last year, Michigan was number two in the AP poll and number three in the CFP rankings. Well, and highest. Yeah. The thing that he didn't have there was strength of

schedule, right? And like, no, he did. He did. Well, he had the records of the of the opponents. But yeah, but that's not the same thing. Like the Michigan strength of schedule last year was not great going into this week. No, it looks very similar. I'm actually looking at it was it was about to go because they were about to play Penn State. This was when they played Penn State. Here in Michigan played up to this point last year. East Carolina, UNLV, Bowling Green, Rutgers, Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan State and Purdue. UNLV might have been the best team out of that bunch. And like UNLV was.

Not who they will be played for the Mountain West Championship last year, yeah. We're not nearly as good as they are this year. I don't think right. That's still fair to say no, they were really good. They had Jade my Ava that now I actually I don't know if Jade my Ava had become their starter yet at that point because remember he replaced the injured starter. My Ava became their starter in week three.

After the Michigan game so. So. Those are very similar resumes. I wish I had that. Very similar. For the column last night. It's very compelling. But it's true, but it's true. You're right.

Now that Michigan team beat Penn State this week and like going to Penn State raised the strength schedule, made everything, but I will say, here's this, here's what that, this Indiana team can do to get looked at like that Michigan team, have the same regular season achievement that was their best regular season achievement, beat Ohio State.

The good news is I think this Indiana team gets into the playoff without beating Ohio State. But if they beat Ohio State, you got to put Indiana up at like No. 2, right? Jim Collison So here's the question, too, that I have to ask you, Andy. Do you buy, because like, listen, I got a lot of this yesterday, and I'm sure you did, too. I was like, Oh, who cares? That's gonna play out. Right? You get that a lot? Oh, who cares? Everything's gonna come together. I'm the one usually saying that. I don't think that in this particular case, because, yes, they do play Ohio State. But

we just showed you how differently they're being treated. The thing that I think is important, and I don't know if you think it's important, is that doesn't the starting, right? But like, I think that your odds of making it into the field if there is a debate are higher if you start higher. Like, I don't think that the, I don't think that, oh, who cares that Penn State's six and Indiana's eight, it's no big deal, it's only two spots. It's like those two spots could be the difference at the end of the year if things get weird, right? And it's harder to drop further when you're in that position. I think that the rankings are a message of what the committee thinks of you in that moment. So even though Indiana does have all the opportunity in the world to go to Ohio State and show everybody what they're about, I still think that the ranking should be fair, just and equitable for everybody right now. And like seeing that is actually disheartening. Because like you don't want to believe that it's true. You want to you want to believe that a smaller fan base is just insecure about their brand recognition. But when you see something like that, it's like very hard. And we all know in the back of our heads that that exists right to a certain extent these people who are doing it in the committee room are humans. That's that's just messed up to look at like it's just messed up to look at because it is is shocking how similar. They are the stats are the same yeah. And then like that that's not even cooked like that's cherry picked. Like Michigan had played nobody at this point.

Yeah, but nobody was saying well, that's not true. A lot of people were saying Michigan had played nobody. And then they stopped after they played Penn State because Penn State was good, but like Andy, I'm even guilty of it myself. I was guilty of singling out Penn State yesterday, because Penn State wasn't the only team that should have been singled out. No, they shouldn't do anything. Notre Dame should have been in that scenario, too. And I think you can make the case on an outside basis that Texas is in that same boat. And like we just I just assume that Texas is better than Penn State because

Texas has a better brand and a better recruiting resume. Read the Dear Andy written version tomorrow. There's a really interesting question about a scenario where a bunch of teams finished six and two in the SEC and ten and two overall. And you're going to be surprised when you get to the Texas section. Because that if Texas is stuck with a bunch of other ten and two SEC teams, it does not go well for Texas. So just bear that in mind like or it shouldn't if we're just rewarding the best resumes. But we'll see. We'll see what actually happens. But that is so the numbers are shocking and they're not cherry picked.

Like a lot of people would, you know, normally cherry picks the numbers and say, see, see, I showed you. No, no, that one actually showed us. You can actually make the case that Penn State should be ahead of Texas and Indiana should be ahead of both of them. You probably could. Because both now played one of the top three teams in the country and one back to the Rasskite team.

Texas has a runaway win against Michigan. I guess Indiana can have a runaway win against Michigan if it does it this weekend. I don't even know if it counts. See, that's the other thing too. Do we, do we use the same helmet bias that we're speaking out against to reward teams for quality wins that don't exist? But at least, at least that's a common data point. I know, but Michigan stinks. So like that's not a quality win. Like they have a, they have a quality helmet. It's not a quality.

It's the same, it's the same reason why Penn State doesn't get a bunch of credit for beating USC. USC stinks. They're a traditional program. They have a brand recognition, but that's not any different. They stink. So that's it, you know? And that's, that's the thing that irks me the most too. It's like, I had people saying like, well, going out on West Virginia and beating them in the road, that's a tough place. And psychologically, you get credit for that. It's like, what? What does that mean? Psychologically, you get credit because you think on paper that it's probably a harder place to play.

Yeah, West Virginia hasn't been good. They're not a good team this year. So like, I get it. going to Morgantown, that fan base was pumped up at the beginning of the year. Like, a lot of people had some pretty high hopes for West Virginia. But you don't get credit for beating bad teams because you think the concept of playing them

would be harder than others, just because it's a psychological thing. Yeah, that's a, they're a four and four team. So they lost to Penn State, but they've also lost three big 12 or they. Well, they lost a pit and then they've lost. In the big 12 as well, they've lost Iowa State in Kansas State. Yeah, and both of the Kansas State. They got blown out at home so. Yeah, I mean, if you want to say you're as good as Kansas State, go ahead. A Kansas State's not making the playoff.

So there you go. Alright Ari. This question comes from Chris. Based on Ari claiming to have never heard of Zombie, which is insane because that song plays in public all the time, is it possible to compile some sort of list of celebrities slash musicians slash song slash movies? He does not know. Thanks, Chris. P.S. They played that song at a wedding I went to in the summer

and the crowd loved it. This is this is a great project for the show. We need to keep a running list. So we have zombie by the cranberriesberries and every time one of these comes up we add it to the list. You can. The thing about it though is that this is kind of a rare thing for me because I think I'm pretty plugged in. I'm like oh yeah I've heard that song before. So I don't know if I just happened to miss this one. My struggle is if you're like. I don't see how it would be possible to have been alive in the 90s and missed that song. I know, but I was very young in the 90s. Like it wasn't like I was like aware enough yet.

I wasn't 11. It's a very distinctive song and it was everywhere. And it's also been used in a ton of movies between then and now. Yeah, or maybe I just don't, I didn't do a good enough job of retaining that for whatever reason. But my biggest issue is, is that like,

if you say an actor or actress's name, like I won't know who that is, but if I see them, I will recognize them. But if you can say, oh, that's that guy from, that's fine. Yes, I can do that. Like I don't think I'm like, I wouldn't say that I'm pop culture, music, movie, TV show, an act.

I just have no ability to retain names and faces when it comes to that stuff because I've just, like, cause like, you know what I don't understand? And I'll always, and I say this, I don't understand the normal person's obsession with personal lives of celebrities. Like I, like the entire point of like, celebrity gossip to me is such a foreign concept. Like why would you care who's dating who or who's getting divorced?

I don't think that's unusual at all because I don't really care about that stuff either. No, but I'm saying it's a huge internet traffic. It's a huge industry. There are a lot of people who care about it. Yeah. Like I can't fathom why somebody would give a shit about that stuff. I don't, and I would imagine that most of the people watching, listening to this show, that's not their thing either. Yeah, so we all have our things. Our thing is sports. Maybe that's their sports for the people who watch TMZ or follow all that stuff.

That's their sports. It's like, everybody got also fired up last year about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey dating. It's like I do not give a shit like at all. Like have fun. I'm happy that she's dating a nice football player. But like how is that entertainment for me? Well with Taylor Swift is entertainment because every time she breaks up with somebody some bangers get produced.

I understand the funny joke, but like I don't want to read a People magazine article about what they like to do in their free time. No, I want to hear that. Like knitting blankets. Yeah, I want to hear that. Yeah, like, I just, and I also the other one, Andy, and this might be offensive, if we have some overseas listeners, do not understand why anybody cares about the royal family at all. No, like, what's going on with that? We fought a war and I have to care about them. Like, what? Why are they important? I don't even understand why they're important. They're mascots. It's a mascot situation. They are they are Great Britains, the United Kingdom's mascots. Like they should put a giant head on King Charles. I was on a cruise with my family when I was 28 years

old. And this was peak of like skinny, arrogant Ari season with the tightest fade in America. Yeah, I was like a smoke show back then. But I got into it with these British people on the boat and I called the mascots and apparently was very offensive. Like, I should not have said that. And I asked them, like, are you cool with, like, your tax dollars funding mascots? Like, what's the point of this?

And like, I, I still to this day, is it like a respect thing? Like, why do these people like, why is Prince Harry a person that I should care about? He's not again, we fought a war, so you don't have to, but like, why do I even know who that is? You're bombarded with him because I guess some people care. And then we have to watch documentaries about his love life and- He's not the one who married the actress from Suits, right? That's his brother.

Wait, who's that one? I thought that's who I thought I was talking about. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. The redhead that's really rich and got to marry the really pretty girl from Suits and is just loaded and like his whole life story about why I left the royal family and how I can just be a millionaire. Oh, that is Prince. Yes. Okay. Yeah. William is the other one. Yeah, a millionaire in America. And I don't have to live by the guidelines of normal society because I was gifted all this tax dollar money from people that I'll never like give it back to like I don't understand. We haven't had to care since they surrendered to Yorktown. Like when Corey Wallace was like Uncle we don't have to care anymore. All right, but on this note Brian

Wants me to ask you about this song. Have you heard? By the crash test dummies Mm-mm-mm-mm by the crash test dummies. No recognition of the name of the band or the song. I will sing it for you. Okay. The first verse goes, once there was this kid who got into an accident and couldn't come to school.

But when he finally came back, his hair had turned from black into bright white. And then the chorus of this song is just the guy going, this was a major hit in the nineties. I don't think I've ever heard that song. You're missing out. Again. Add to the list, Producer River. Crash test. Oh, here it is. It's like the first thing that comes up. I'm gonna mute it so we don't get a copyright record. Just stand by for like 10 seconds, okay?

We're gonna watch Ari react to this song. You all know it. You've heard it. You're like me. You retain every song you hear, even the ones you don't like. I've heard this song. Still already gets to the second verse about the girl with the birthmarks all over her

body. I don't know the lyrics, but this song I've heard before and I think it might be in Dumb and Dumber. Oh, it is in Dumb and Dumber, yes! Which is a great soundtrack, by the way. Just a great soundtrack by the way Justin yeah, that's that's where soundtrack. That's where I've heard the song though Like the second I heard the chorus I that was like, okay had seen when producer river take it off the list Ari has heard It's kind of a sad song

Oh, excuse me, Mr. Perfect. I'm sorry to make a mistake. One more question and we got to go. And he said it was me an hour episode and I knew it was OK. Can he it's from Grandpa J. So we mentioned this earlier. We had to pre-record this episode because Ari has jury duty on Thursday morning. Grandpa J says, can Ari live tweet jury duty, please? Yeah, I hope it's not me just sitting in a room

for five hours, because I don't do well in that scenario. I hope that like there's some interactive. Your tweets will be increasingly unhinged if that happens, which would be great. Is that what you said your experience was? You went there and you had to sit there for five hours and like, all right, we don't need you.

Very glad I brought snacks. Yeah. Like I, I'm not a big, you've seen me in a line at a Walgreens before. Like that's not my, my situation. Now I need you. I need you to live tweet this. What snacks will you be bringing, by the way? What's the best way to get out of jury duty without being like an asshole? Just say I'm not feeling well, I might have COVID. That'll do it. Wear a mask.

I think I got COVID. Yeah. But I'm not sure. But I also am like kind of interested in the process. So like, I hope like I'm gonna go through it Write it out. Write it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah get get yourself in the box It's about time. I actually do something positive for like society, you know Hey, i'm just glad you've heard. Mm. That that restores my faith in humanity right there

Yeah Everybody it's been a wonderful week. These games are going to be awesome. The next time you see me and Ari, we will be together in Oxford, Mississippi, talking about the, well, we might be talking about a game that happened before the Georgia Ole Miss game, or we might be talking about the Georgia Ole Miss game

that just happened, and yeah, elimination game in Baton Rouge. It'll be a hell of a weekend. We'll talk to you again on Saturday.