Andy & Ari On3 - Ole Miss QB Jaxson Dart is helping the Rebs get HOT | Indiana-Ohio State preview

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Andy and Ari on three presented by Wendy's and those saucy nugs. We got a saucy guest for you today. Ole Miss quarterback Jackson Dart. Ari, this guy's living the dream. I'm wearing salmon today just because it kind of felt like a pastel type color that would have like that Lane Kiffin Jackson Dart vibe, you know, that like so Kyle cool or on a boat somewhere in the Bahamas. It was really cool to have him on and at a really great time to any because Ole Miss I think is is primed to do something here
Starting point is 00:00:35 pretty special. So it was really great to hear from him and you know, glad that he spared some time for us. Well, and the Ole Miss availability report came out last night and a very interesting piece of information on it. Trey Harris, their leading receiver, is probable for this week's game at Florida. And they've been without Trey Harris for about three and a half games. Now Lane Kiffin kind of teased this on Monday
Starting point is 00:00:59 in his press conference and said basically, there's a real good chance that Trey Harris can be able to play. And I think though that they've actually kind of figured out a lot of what their offense could and should be without him. And now they get him back and we kind of get to see what that looks like too. Yeah. It's like, there was this notion that Ole Miss unlocked its offense.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Cause I figured out how to play without Trey Harris. Now you put him back in and you have that threat while also having confidence in some of your other guys and guys who stepped up Andy, like while he was out Ole Miss receivers were producing and getting open. We saw it firsthand in Mississippi. So, um, super excited to see what, what Ole Miss can do this week. And if you've been listening to the show, you know, that like, if I'm taking any long shot odds right now on any sec team, like Ole Miss is the this week. And if you've been listening to the show, you know that like, if I'm taking any long shot odds
Starting point is 00:01:46 right now on any SEC team, like Ole Miss is the most attractive bet to me. Well, it's interesting because them for the national title, they have the longest odds of a team with a roster capable of winning a national title. If that makes sense. And arguably are playing their best at the right time. like other teams in that same SEC two loss cluster. You know, you have some questions about Texas offensively right now.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I don't know if those are rational or not, but Texas hasn't played an opponent as well as Georgia or as good as Georgia. Well, all year Alabama, you know, it has its warts that we're not sure they've gotten over. Georgia is coming off of a loss at Ole Miss a few weeks ago, like, who do you feel more confident in the way that they're playing right now? Tennessee lost to Georgia on Saturday, like, Ole Miss is really, really good. And the thing that I like about them the most Andy, and I've said this is,
Starting point is 00:02:38 if you look at the most important position groups on a team, like they don't have question marks at those positions, right? Like their defensive line is nasty. The running back is super, super effective. Uh, their wide receiver core is much better. Even now with Trey Harris coming back than I thought it was. And they, of course, they've got Jackson Dart who came on the show today. So like, I, I mean, 11 to one just seems like a really tasty number. Yeah. And again, you just have to look at it. Who has a roster? That can win the title. Let's right before we talk to Jackson,
Starting point is 00:03:11 let's play that game. Let's play the who has the roster. Capable winning a national time. I'll name a team. You tell me if their roster to you is capable of going through the gauntlet of winning three or four games in the college football playoffs. So, okay, Oregon. Yes. Texas. Yes. Miami. It's a tricky one, right? Yes. But yes. Okay. All right. Their defense state. No. Okay. Ohio State. Yes. Penn State. No. OK. Ohio State. Yes. Penn State. No. OK. Indiana. No. Notre Dame. No. Really? Okay. I would have them on the borderline. Yeah. Like, I mean, they are good enough to beat anybody. I don't know if they could beat Alabama, Oregon and Georgia or Ole Miss in a row. Okay. Like that's what we're doing here, right? Yes. What we're doing.
Starting point is 00:04:21 That's exactly right. Alabama. Yes. Georgia. Yes. Tennessee. I don't know. We already said we think Ole Miss does. Anybody I didn't mention that has a roster you think could do it. I don't think so. No. You know what? Uh actually there's one that's might be kind of weird that would be on the fence for me. South Carolina, South Carolina. Yeah, I knew you're going to say that. Yeah and they have three losses. So yeah and like it's going to sound disrespectful and you know what? Maybe we'll be proven wrong last year if
Starting point is 00:05:03 you would have asked me in July if Michigan had a had a roster going to have to win the national title, I would have said no definitively. So you know what, maybe we'll be proven wrong last year. If you would've asked me in July, if Michigan had a, had a roster good enough to win the national title, I would've said no definitively. So, you know, I'm not saying that you're eliminated, but, and I'm not even saying like when I hesitated with, with Notre Dame and Miami and even Tennessee. Like maybe total talent you would think might be okay, but there are certain aspects of those teams that make me wonder if they would be able to beat elite teams three times in a row. So, um, you know, at a certain point, I thought Tennessee was, was really,
Starting point is 00:05:33 really good, but that was when I was under the impression that they hadn't unlocked their offense yet. And I think this is just what their offense is. So like that, that makes it tough for me. Yeah. Yeah. He beat anybody in the country. I just don't know if you could get by in those grinded out games that they would have to like if they were would have beaten Georgia that would have taken every ounce of energy to
Starting point is 00:05:56 do that and I don't know if you can do that three times in a row just mathematically. And that's the thing. That's where this is tricky, because we've never seen this before. We've never seen it and we don't know what everybody's path is going to be. So there is a lot of now too like we have to acknowledge that it's harder now to do it than it used to be. It's easier to get in, but it's harder to win it all. Well, and nobody has as deep a roster as some of the teams at the top used to
Starting point is 00:06:22 have. That's the weirdest part, the most ironic part, I guess, about all this is they create a thing that would have given a prohibitive advantage to the Alabamas and the Georges of the previous era. But now I don't think they have the same advantage because nobody's as deep. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm in the process of writing a column for tomorrow on On Three about Ohio State's lack of depth
Starting point is 00:06:48 on the offensive line and how we got here. And it's just like, this is a team that was supposed to be one of the last remaining super teams of the sport in this setup. And even they can't field an offensive line without a major question mark after sustaining two or three injuries. So, you know, the depth aspect of this, the depth piece of it is so much different than it used to be.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And, you know, like Notre Dame has been playing really well, but Notre Dame lost two really important pieces on their offensive line before the year. What does that look like when they play George? And they've lost some defensive starters for the season too. Okay, I got a little game for you because we're going to talk to Jackson Dart, who plays for a team that we say has this kind of roster.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I want to play a little blind resume game. One of our listeners named Greg sent this in for us. And it is fascinating. OK, you got team A and team B. Team A has scored 224 points in conference play and allowed 177 points. Their scoring margin in conference play is plus 47. Their record versus the common opponents with team B is one and two and their scoring margin versus common opponents is minus 24.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Team B total points scored in conference play 233, allowed in conference play 162, scoring margin in league play plus 71 one and two against common opponents scoring margin versus common opponents negative one who is team A and who is team B with no clues of what league we're talking about. I'll give you the league. I'm happy to give you the league. It's the SEC who's team A and who's team B? Oh, man. This is difficult because I don't have Greg's a genius for
Starting point is 00:08:33 this. This is amazing. But I think that because I brought up South Carolina, one of them is South Carolina, which I think team B is South Carolina. Okay, who's Team A? Alabama. Nope, Blake Hicks in the chat nailed it. Oh. Team A is Georgia and Team B is South Carolina. Yeah. How did he do that?
Starting point is 00:08:58 That was impressive, Blake. He's a South Carolina fan, so he was looking and trying to understand. I think it's like some credit for picking South Carolina because I kind of got a guess of like I saw that the record was one and two against common opponents which means it was probably one of the teams that was either in the cluster in the SEC what you told me but like to be able to get that was pretty impressive congratulations. Here's the thing and Greg in his in his letter was very understanding.
Starting point is 00:09:27 He's like, I get why South Carolina is out. And if you're comparing South Carolina to Georgia, you say, okay, this is very interesting, but you're basically trading a South Carolina line of loss to LSU at home for Georgia winning against Texas on the road, which is why Georgia is in the place it's in and South Carolina is in the place it's in. home for Georgia winning against Texas on the road. Which is why George is in the place it's in and the South Carolina is in the place it's in. But Greg makes the point that they shouldn't be eight spots
Starting point is 00:09:52 apart in the rankings, which is what they are. Yeah, you know, the thing that's just interesting about this whole thing with common opponents is, is that we at home or we on the road. Was it at night? Was it at noon? Like, what was the, like, I know that we always try and it's the only data that we have to kind of like draw a straight line between team a and team B because one team beat that team by a million to the other one, one by five.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And it's just like, you know how it goes. Like there's some words where you just don't play well or the other team, you know, hits a turnover in the beginning of the game. And it's just like, the thing that is difficult about South Carolina is, is that all the interesting data points that you just put up, you don't need them. You know what you need your eyes. Like if you've watched South Carolina play in the last month, like, you know, I think the South Carolina would be in a game with Georgia.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Like, is that a weird thing to say? Like, I think that South Carolina would be in a game with Georgia. Like, is that a weird thing to say? Like, I think that they could beat Georgia. I think they could beat just about anybody on the top 50 right now. Which was the point of this exercise because they're the one team that's out definitively that if they got in, you'd be like, yeah, I can see them making a run.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And it's like, on one hand, I do want to feel bad because South Carolina only had to win one of the two games they had all but one that they've lost, right? Like the games that they lost. Alabama or LSU, either one of them. They were both in position to win those games. And if they would have won one of them, they would be in that cluster
Starting point is 00:11:22 and the team that they beat would be out. Could you imagine if South Carolina would have beaten LSU with the mess we'd be in that cluster and the team that they beat would be out. Could you imagine if South Carolina would have beaten LSU with the mess we'd be in right now? It'd be a lot of fun, but you know who definitively beat South Carolina? Ole Miss. Yeah. Ole Miss led by a quarterback named Jackson Dart, a guy who grew up in Utah, who went to USC first, then came to Ole Miss, and has had a wonderful career there,
Starting point is 00:11:46 and he joins the show right now. I gotta start with this, a guy growing up in Utah, like could you have ever imagined being the king of Oxford, Mississippi? Like if you go back to your 12 year old self and explain what your life is now, what would he have said? Well, I probably wouldn't have found myself in Mississippi, I think going into it.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I remember getting into the transfer program when I was getting recruited here, like I had to look up where Mississippi was on the map. But no, it's been a wonderful experience. And I've always wanted to play big time football. So I think just me having the dreams and aspirations of playing against the best competition just landed me in the best possible place that I feel like I could be in, playing in the SEC with a great team, with a great coaching staff. And I think just as a little kid, you know, you dreamed of playing on the big stage in
Starting point is 00:12:41 big moments. So I think that I'm just really grateful to to be a part of, you know, what we got going on here. Jackson, I don't know if you remember me, but we talked on the phone on October 19th of 2020. And this was How's he supposed to remember that? Well, I'm just like, I'm a pretty awesome person to remember. But I remember I was writing a recruiting column about you because you committed late in the process or you had remained uncommitted late in the process of your high school recruitment. And as a result, your offer list exploded and you were pretty fast riser before ultimately ending up at USC. But during
Starting point is 00:13:16 your recruitment, and now looking at the way that things turned out now, what did you learn about Ole Miss and the second time through it that you might not have known when you were, you know, a high schooler? And then what would your advice be to high school quarterbacks trying to find a destination that you might not have known at the beginning? Yeah, well, the recruiting process, I mean, as you can expect, is completely different from what it was when I was in high school, just the ability to transfer and whatnot. But I think the biggest thing that I learned is just trying to really just put yourself in the best situation to be developed.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And it's not even as much, I think a lot of times in high school, you don't obviously you're gonna have the dreams aspirations of, I want to start as a freshman. But I feel like the most important thing is development. And from a coaching standpoint, from just making sure that you have the pieces around you, I think especially as a quarterback, like you have to have guys around you.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I mean, that's just what makes you successful. And so I think like the biggest thing that I took away is the development piece of it. And at the same time, you gotta, you got to set aside your comfort. You know, moving across the country is a hard thing to do when you're moving away from family. But if it's the best place for you, that's going to help, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:34 exceed and excel you in the direction that you want to go. That's ultimately what's the most important. What was your first exposure to Lane Kiffin? Did he recruit you at all out of high school? Because he would have been at FAU during the later part of your high school career, so probably wasn't heading out there. But was it during the transfer process that you first came into contact with him, or did you have that before? No, me and Coach Kiff met for the first time when I was in the portal. I think a big piece of it for
Starting point is 00:15:04 me was that, or for him, was that he had just gotten done coaching Matt Corral, who was a West Coast kid. And, you know, when I first got here, I was the only West Coast kid on our whole team. So I think that made the interaction a little bit easier, plus with him having experience on the West Coast and coaching at USC and living out there whatnot. But our first interaction was was through the transfer portal. And I think the very first time that we ever talked,
Starting point is 00:15:29 he was on a boat fishing in the Bahamas. So I was like, do you kind of feel like you guys have similar vibes? You got the blonde hair, the sun kissed skin, just like the surfer mentality. I heard the golf down there is pretty nice. Andy tries to sell me on Biloxi all the time. Do you guys do you feel like you guys are like the same ilk? Like you're going to be on a boat in the Bahamas one day? Geez, I hope or in like Monaco or something. That'd be cool.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Monaco. Okay, you're more like me then. No, I think me coach, you know, our personalities just just mesh well. Well, he's a lot of fun, you know, on and off the field. And, um, I think from a competitive standpoint, you know, really all he cares about is winning, and I think that's something as a player, you can really respect and really buy into. So, uh, I think just the more and more time that we've spent together, our relationships got stronger and he's super passionate at what he does.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And, um, I've loved playing playing with him So let's let's go to that Georgia game and he said after the game He thought when you got hurt on the first series these words you're not coming back You said after that game you were always coming back so when you're in there and the trainers are working on you and And you know Austin's running that one drive. What's going through your mind? I never had a doubt that I was going to come back in the game. There's a few precaution things that you have to take care of when you have a little injury like that.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So just had to get that wrapped up and then take a little Advil and then I'm ready to go. Um, and then, you know, take a little Advil and then I'm, I'm ready to go. Jackson, we, Andy and I were at the, uh, at the Georgia game and we were standing on the sidelines at the end there, um, before the players rust the field. But there was a moment that I was just looking up at the video board and it was as you guys were, were kneeling at the clock and you were walking off the field and all the kids and the fans were on the side of the fence ready to jump over. They were on the sidelines and it zoomed in on you on the screen. I don't even know if you saw it yourself, but you were screaming and yelling, like, this is our house. I don't know
Starting point is 00:17:35 what you were saying, probably not so eloquently as that, but the emotion of that win of Ole Miss has been waiting years and years and years to not just get to a point where they beat Georgia, but are in a national championship race and discussion. Like, what was that moment like for you to screen, let out all that, you know, maybe excitement, you know, frustration from things that didn't go in the past? Like, take me into that moment. Yeah, I think there's just a lot going through my mind. We had put ourselves in a pretty adverse situation with losing the two games that we did, especially in the fashion that we did. We felt that we just completely let those games go and we felt like we had control of them until the very end. So going into the game, we were just in our backdoor against the ball.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And that's how we feel like we're playing a playoff game each and every week because we understand, you know, if we lose, we're out. So, you know, just the emotions of going into that game are really high, and we knew that, you know, what was at stake for us. And, you know, as you said, like, this was a big game for Ole Miss just as a program, and winning it was huge. So, you know, ultimately, like, this is why a lot of us came back. This is why a lot of guys from different schools who are some of the best players in the country
Starting point is 00:18:51 transferred in here was to compete and win these types of games. So it was just a special moment to see the team like rally behind one another through all the adversity that we faced so far this regular season and really just be resilient. How did that group like you and Jared Ivy and the older leaders of this team rally everybody after the LSU game? What did you say to everybody?
Starting point is 00:19:17 I think it was nice that we had a bye after that. So guys could really just you, have their emotions and thoughts to themselves and just have a little bit of time to really just reflect on everything. And I think the main message that we had with one another was, you know, there's a purpose that we all came here together. There's a purpose of how everything has shaken out the way that he that it has. And we just had to keep holding faith and I think you know when you're in a situation like that you can go two different ways you can just fold and just give up or you can buck up and I think that we have a lot of guys who who have that mindset of just you know we're gonna buck up and regardless
Starting point is 00:20:01 of what we've gone through you know what people have to say about us and, you know, just try to stack days. And I think that once we're able to have that second half against Oklahoma and then have the game against Arkansas, like, it really just gave us a ton of confidence. Jackson, so you guys won 10 games, 11 games, right, last year. And you got, you said that you had a bunch of people who wanted to come back to be in the position that you're in right now. But as the quarterback and leader of the team and program right now, what was it like seeing guys like Walter Nolan come in, Juce Wells come in? Like, in the moment, we all know that Ole Miss is, you know, boosters. Everybody has gone all in on this season. But as the quarterback, was it exciting? Did you feel a responsibility to deliver? I mean, what was it like being the quarterback on a team that really was pushing their chips all in
Starting point is 00:20:48 to have a big year this year? Yeah, it was super neat to kind of see how it all unfolded. Just, you know, Ole Miss' history, like you don't really consistently get those types of recruits and players to Ole Miss, especially before, you know, the system that we're in nowadays. So just seeing guys like that from all over the country, I mean, even like Princeley who came from Florida, like it was just, I think that they really saw the momentum
Starting point is 00:21:19 that was going on with this program. They see the excitement that we have, especially with the head coach, like Coach Kiffin. And there's just a lot of juices flowing. And it's a lot of fun to be an Ole Miss Rebel right now. And I think that ultimately our product showed on the field last year, and it just turned into something where people just really wanted to be a part of it. And it was awesome building relationships with those guys. And, you know, we were in competition with other schools to get them, but, you know, they saw the vision of this program. Well, and now like, Prince Lee's going back to Gainesville this week. Cause you've had a couple of those juice,
Starting point is 00:21:56 juice goes back to Columbia, Prince Lee goes back to Gainesville. What is that like for guys? And do your teammates, do you make fun of them during the week? Do you say anything or are you just you know mining them for information? Yeah, we're definitely getting information off of them from their experience. But at the same time, you know, I think that they do all that they can to try to treat it like it's another game, which is, you know, we're human. So you're going to have a little bit more emotions going into the week, and I'm sure, you know, running out into the stadium,
Starting point is 00:22:28 you know, you're going to feel a type of way, and it might feel a little bit awkward, but at the same time, you know, I think that those guys are just super blessed and happy to be here at Ole Miss, and they want to do all that they can to win each and every game, regardless of who we're playing. And I think just as players and guys on the team, we do all we can to just support
Starting point is 00:22:51 them and ultimately just try to get the victory especially for them. Jackson, I know that you guys have a backs against the wall, win every game mentality like you said, right? Every game is a playoff game. That used to just be called the regular season, but here we are. I was just wondering, Andy, I did that for you. Appreciate it. When you beat a team like Georgia, it's not just another win. It is a statement in terms of where you guys are at physically as a roster, what you guys are able to do, because they are viewed as the standard, right? Does something shift in your brain? I know you're
Starting point is 00:23:26 working, you're building, you're confident in yourselves at all times. But when you accomplish that win, does something change in your brains? Or it's like, boys, we could actually do this. Like, we could win a national title. Yeah, I think so. You have those thoughts. But you know, the best thing that you can do is honestly just have the mindset of just trying to go one and 0 each and every week. Especially with the 12th team playoff, I think that honestly got us hurt in the regular season of losing those two games. Like, I think that the games that we lost, like our focus wasn't solely on that one team. And at times we wrapped our head around too much of the playoff and what the season could be. And I think it really just grounded us and really humbled us losing those games. And I think the momentum that we have after winning a game like that,
Starting point is 00:24:18 like when you take down what we viewed as the top team in the whole country, it definitely gives your team some hope and confidence moving forward. So you mentioned earlier, boat in Bahamas is fine, boat in Monaco might be better. You've got a private jet NIL deal already. Like how close are we to getting the yacht deal? Geez, that would be sweet, huh? That would be sweet.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I've always talked about how I've always wanted a yacht in Monaco. So, I mean, hey. Jackson, I've got to ask you though, when you have an NIL deal with a jet situation, how does that manifest in your life? Like, can you abuse this privilege? Like, can we bring, like, I mean, what do we do with it? Let's go get dinner in LA tonight. Wait, what do you do with it? Seriously, can you like, do you have use of this jet? And have you done anything with it? Yeah, honestly, I've only used the jet
Starting point is 00:25:12 for me and my teammates. You know, if we need to go get, you know, treatment in a place or just get, you know, some type of work to, you know, whether it's in the off season of, you know, getting one-on-one reps or things like that. I haven't used any of it for myself.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I've always used it for my teammates and things like that because I would never even got that without them. So I do all I can to really show those privileges. After the season, I'm gonna come to Oxford, me and you, and take this jet to Vegas. Come on, let's get some people on this jet. He's a Utah guy. He's going to take all these southern dudes to Park City
Starting point is 00:25:55 and show them what it's like. Get them on Main Street Park City right before Sundance. Let's go. You're trying to mess up my Vegas trip with Jackson Dart? I love that. You need a Park City trip in your life and you'll forget Vegas. I've been to Park City.
Starting point is 00:26:08 There's no casinos there. Okay. Okay. Jackson, thank you so much. Good luck in Gainesville this weekend. Awesome. Thanks for having me. Thanks buddy.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Thanks for having me. I think you're getting that casino trip, Ari. Pre-draft sometime. I think you're getting that casino trip Ari. Pre-draft sometime. Put up the sign Producer River. Zero days since Ari's last mic issue. If you're listening in podcast form, I'm sure what Ari said was hilarious,
Starting point is 00:26:39 but we don't know what it was. Come on Ari. Nope,. Come on, Ari. Nope, nope, nope, nope. Still can't hear you. This is great. I love this. This is so great. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I don't know if we're gonna get Ari for the rest of the show, so I actually may be answering mailbag questions by myself. And you guys can't see this. Oh, okay, producer is gonna let you see it now. We're gonna watch Ari struggle. All right, I'm actually gonna talk to you a little bit
Starting point is 00:27:14 about what else we got to talk about today. If Ari gets his mic back, then we'll be in good shape. But we do have to talk about the Indiana Ohio State game. And it's the biggest game of the week. Just as we all predicted this time last year that this would be the biggest game in the country. Indiana at Ohio State. Well that's where we are.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Undefeated Indiana. One lost Ohio State. Ari slapping the mic. I hear it. Yeah, buddy. What you got? That wasn't my Yeah, buddy. What you got? That wasn't my fault, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I just had to leave the studio and come back in, but no settings changed. Like that was- Listen, you, I feel you. I feel you. It's not your fault. Do you know what I said when you couldn't hear me?
Starting point is 00:28:01 No, I don't read lips like that guy read Brian Kelly's lips at the Florida game. By the way, that's exactly what he was saying. He nailed it. Like there's no other way. Why are you jumping and then broke down like how many times he has jumped prematurely this season. It was pretty great. What I said into the mic when you couldn't hear me was, yay, my mic works. Oh, Alanis, that is the definition of irony. All right, we do need to talk about Indiana and Ohio State. Ari, this game will tell us a lot
Starting point is 00:28:37 because all of these arguments about Indiana are completely hypothetical until we know what happens in this game. I think the assumption is Indiana is going to lose. And the assumption is Indiana, you know, that Indiana is going to lose by like 10 points. Well, what if they don't? What if they win? What if they lose by 30?
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like all of these things are on the table. Let's take a look at some of the potential numbers in this game from our friends at PrizePix. You know what PrizePix is? The best daily fantasy game in America. Download the app, use the code staples, play $5, get $50 instantly, and I'm gonna go straight to a number that I think is really really important. That is the Will Howard rushing yards total. Indiana allows two and a half yards of carry to opponents. Their rush defense is awesome. Will Howard, though the numbers are not huge,
Starting point is 00:29:39 in the Penn State game, used his feet in a way that allowed them to keep moving moving the ball keep drives alive and I think it was very critical even though he only wound up with 24 rushing yards now there were some sacks there too his rushing number on prize picks is 13 and a half yards. That's that's probably assuming a few sacks. If it's more than. I think Ohio State's winning this game. I think it's going to be more than Andy because I don't you think that they're going to do more rollout stuff more more things that get him out into space to
Starting point is 00:30:21 try to make up for maybe some of the things they might be facing up front with this injury. Like what's the best way as a, as an offense to design plays that help you mitigate offensive line issues. Like isn't roll aren't rollouts. Yeah. Rollouts, rollouts, move the pocket. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And I think Ohio state found during the Penn State game that they can do a lot of damage with design runs and things like that. And also too, what do design runs with the quarterback do? Essentially gives you an extra blocker, right? Because if you hand the ball off to a running back, then there's nobody in the play to block. So I think that that is a low number. I think that's really low. Spoken like a man who went to a lot of Urban Meyer press conferences. I went to a lot of those, uh, those coaching camps in the summertime. Cause plus some, plus some with the quarterback run.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I agree. Let's look at a couple other key numbers here. Let's pull up Omar Cooper. Omar Cooper is the second leading receiver for Indiana. Oh good, we've got Omar Cooper, Elijah Sarat, Justice Ellison and Curtis Rourke all in one block here if you're looking at it on the screen. So Omar Cooper's receiving yards number is 28 and a half.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Omar Cooper averages 22 yards of catch. So we're basically saying, Omar Cooper, is Omar Cooper gonna catch two passes? More or less less and I think that's interesting I think the folks at prize picks think that Ohio State's defense is going to severely limit Indiana's passing game because they've got Omar Cooper 28 and a half Elijah's rot at 52 and a half Curtis work at 221 and a half I'm telling half. Curtis work at 221 and a half.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I'm telling you, if Curtis gets to 221, Omar and Elijah are gonna have more than that. Just saying. Well, if these numbers aren't hit from Indiana, they're gonna lose and maybe lose big. Like those are pretty low receiving totals. And I get that they're lower because you gotta kind of pick which receiver
Starting point is 00:32:22 you think might actually be the one that has a huge game. But if Indiana wins, I think the over has to hit like I think they need to win in a game that was like the Oregon game. Like I don't know that there's going to be any any clock ball control type stuff here. I think that they need to go out and score and be aggressive and you know, show off like what's the rod is like because I you know, like people know Indiana is good. But like, I don't think people know who Elijah Serrat is, like, I don't think they like I watched the games to know how good that
Starting point is 00:32:51 kid is. And what you pointed out about the Oregon game, that was the one game we've seen this season where Ohio State's DBs to get burned. And Oregon is interesting because Oregon throws a lot of passes near the line of scrimmage. They went deep on Ohio State. They tried to go over the top on Ohio State and it worked and it was kind of going against going against trend going as type. Well, Indiana can go deep on you.
Starting point is 00:33:17 They've seen somebody do it to Ohio State. The question is, can they do it to Ohio State? Ohio State cornerback Denzel Burke is supposed to be a first round draft pick, you know, coming back this year and he hasn't had a great year. And also to Oregon has Evan Stewart and Evan Stewart showed up and had the best game of his career in that game. And. Evan Stewart is really, really, really fast and really good.
Starting point is 00:33:42 So like Indiana, like that's the thing too. It's just like you go back and you look at the Ohio state loss at Oregon and you break it down. The box scores were the same. And then Oregon had really good players making really good plays. Like that's what, that's what having good players is. And Indiana has really good players, but Indiana's really good players have not been tested at this level yet. So there is kind of this wild card of like, well, Elijah Surratt is really good. But is he going to be able to beat Denzel Burke, whoever is covering him over the top three times in a game? Like that is a different proposition than doing it against Purdue or Indiana or Amina or, you know, one of the other teams in the in the league that they beat by a hundred doing it against Nebraska, whoever they just beat. Like it's, it's just a different ball game, especially on the road. Can he do it? Absolutely. But we don't know for sure that it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah, I, I'm looking at the receiving numbers here. And one thing I will point out, because you want to do a comparison, you're gonna look look at Elijah Surratt and Omar Cooper's yards per reception. They're, they're off the charts. Elijah Surratt's like 18 yards of catch. Omar Cooper's like 22. If you go and look at Tess Johnson and, and Evan Stewart's at Oregon, they're, they're actually much lower. Don't be fooled by that. That's a lot of, a lot of that's a function of the way Oregon's offense works.
Starting point is 00:35:01 You put the, you put those two in Indiana's offense. They would have incredible yards per per catch numbers too. But nobody's going to sit here and act like Indiana's receivers are as good as Oregon's right? Like we're not going to play this game. Well, if they do the same thing to Ohio State, they're in the conversation. So we'll find out. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not there yet. So Buckeye kill us. This Indian has never played in an environment like this. Even with Ohio State's O-line issues. I think they get yet. So, uh, Indiana has never played in an environment like this, even with Ohio States,
Starting point is 00:35:26 Oh line issues. I think they get rolled. Listen, Nebraska didn't get rolled. Nebraska is way worse than Indiana. So I'm just telling you, if the old line issues are real, if it's not a seamless transition as they replace Seth McLaughlin, it's going to be a close game. And Justice Ellison is another interesting number in this game. If we're looking at prize picks numbers, 41 and a half rush yards, he's gotta go more than that for them to win. Got to.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Like that's Indiana wins games by controlling games by controlling tempo. Justice Ellison is how they how they definitely control tempo. Yeah, so he's got to do more than that, but that is what you need to watch for any in Ohio State noon Eastern on Saturday. Biggest game of the week. Never thought we'd be saying that, but here we are. Love it. Love it art. Let's talk about our friends at Panini. The most collectible sports cars in America. I knew this would excite you. Visit paniniamerica.net
Starting point is 00:36:35 to collect your favorite college and NFL stars. I have one more pack of the Luminance series. So the Luminance series is the one that has the NIL autograph series that has guys like Arch Manning, DJ Lagway. It's very exciting. Now, we've only gotten one of the NIL series ones out of here. We got an Aranda Gadsden, the second autograph. We've gotten some really cool cards. We got this Michael Vick autograph. We got a really cool Jersey swatch from Blake Corum.
Starting point is 00:37:11 So we've had some fun with this. But I'm still excited. Am I gonna get one of these big time NIL cards? So let's open this pack. We are ripping this pack. Let's take a look at what we got. Joe Burrow, never heard of him. He's pretty good. Will Anderson Jr. also very good, but we're in base card territory. Matthew Stafford, Mike Evans. Now, we've got the engaged series. Jesse
Starting point is 00:37:52 Bates there. We've got oh little AOC numbered for you Purdue fans out there. Aiden O'Connell numbered to 300 autograph card. Numbered a nice Smith rookie card for your Texas A and M fans. Can I have that? No, I'm keeping it. Jamari Thrash,
Starting point is 00:38:16 Michael Pinnix Jr. in his Washington uniform. Quinion Mitchell in his Toledo uniform, baby. The Rockets making it onto the card. Alright, I wanted to show some of my recent hits that I've gotten. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see. Getting prepared for PSA who grades them.
Starting point is 00:38:31 This is a gold club level Bijon numbered to 10, which is kind of like the Bijon-Robinson equivalent of the Puka card you hit. Exactly. And the best part about this is that it's numbered seven out of 10 and of like the B John Robinson equivalent of the puka card you hit. Exactly. And the best part about this is that it's numbered seven out of 10 and people like the fact
Starting point is 00:38:48 that the number matches the actual jersey. See my puka is number one out of 10. And that also first on the print is good and jersey matches. Here's a Jackson Smith and Jigba tie dye out of the select product. That one's going to PSA. I've got another Jackson Smith and Jigba that's out of the Asian obsidian.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And that's like a gold, uh, number to six gold flood that you can only get in the, in the product that they release in Asia, but you can find it online if you really want it. I did, um, Zay flowers, Donrus optic blue to one 99. We have CJ Stroud out of score. This is something that Panini sent me. I pulled this out of the Panini product out to 35. It's a rookie card.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Love that. Who better plug? What's it off? He can have it. All right. Can I have that please? Maybe it depends on what that is. I got the Rashid Rice out of contenders optic rookie auto here.
Starting point is 00:39:42 That's pretty sexy. And Quinton Johnston, green pulsar to 35. Rashid Rice out of Contenders Optic, Rookie Otto here. That's pretty sexy. And Quinton Johnston, Green Pulsar to 35, rookie card out of Contenders Optic. You had a great game the other night. Bryce Young here out of Select, that's the tricolor. And then like, I've just got stacks and stacks of cards I'm going through and these are the ones I'm gonna send to PSA.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I actually have not given up on Bryce Young yet. I think it's a goodbye right now. Hold and, uh, you know, hope for the best. And I also, you know what I did? I just want to let you know, I didn't buy it directly from Panini, but I bought it on eBay. Uh, was the Will Levis, Donrus optic blue crack dice to 15 rookie card. That's a monster card.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I got it for like 150 bucks. And if we'll Levis turns out to be really good, that could be like a values to 15 rookie card. That's a monster card. I got it for like 150 bucks. And if we'll have this turns out to be really good, that could be like a $3,000 card. So yeah, I won't get any mayonnaise on it, but if I wish I could pick up my camera and show you my entire, what's that an arm law?
Starting point is 00:40:38 Like there's, it's a little, it's just filled with card singles and it drives my wife crazy, but I can't get enough of this stuff. Well, visit me at Meri.net to get started with your collection and you might be Ari someday. They should make cards of me. Listen, if we cultivate this relationship with Panini and they really like working with us. We might get our own limited edition like imagine pulling an Ari. Gold Rush. Autographed heavy numbers to 10 heavy heads with a burger
Starting point is 00:41:14 holding the burger Andy. Do you think that there's a chance that will love us is ever a really good NFL quarterback or did I waste my money? I don't like your chances are OK. Producer River says that what we're going to do is we're going to have the ARI Salmon hoodie card. That's the premium product. The black T-shirt will be the base card.
Starting point is 00:41:37 This hoodie is super comfortable and it's like I put it on this morning to go get my wife a coffee and I was just having a cute fall Dallas morning and I brought it on this morning to go get my wife a coffee. And I was just like having a cute fall Dallas morning and I brought it back and here I am. I'm kind of like these types of colors. And I'm like trying now that I'm not a blimp anymore, I'm just a smaller blimp to wear something other than just black t-shirts that hide your weight.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'm trying to like bring color in and look cute. Like it's a year in the brand. Our friends at Roeback have pretty much every color in the performance hoodie. I'm wearing one today. R-H-O-B-A-C-K code ANDY for 20% off your first purchase. And that's Andy and Ari squeezing every advertisement into it. Well, also, you always say during the Roeback ad, Andy, that your people steal it. The Roeback hoodies that they sent me, my wife has taken took gone. Yeah, I can't even wear that. Like
Starting point is 00:42:30 they're like somewhere in her underwear drawer. Like she hides them from me. So like, I've been worried that I'm I can't find them. And it's funny because she's like 411 and 103 pounds. So when she puts on my double XL Roeback hoodie, like it goes down to her ankles and it's like a dress but she loves it. So when she puts on my double XL row back hoodie, like it goes down to her ankles and it's like a dress, but she loves it. So yeah, it's the fit they want. Like my daughter is 13. That's all the girls want like the double XL men sweatshirt that they want it to look like a dress. So you're you're unfortunately you're
Starting point is 00:43:02 going to have two of them like in 10 years you'll have two of them stealing your row back goodies. Yes. Yeah, but the material is really great. It really is. Oh yeah. So time for the mailbag. Dear Andy, dear Ari. Love starting the mailbag 43 minutes and love it. We got some great questions. Well, we'll start with Johnny in Texas Dear Andy with a recent injury of Seth McLaughlin at Ohio State It made me wonder if for example Dylan Gabriel goes down for the rest of season with the CFP Choosily the ducks out of the playoff citing precedents from Florida State last year now We don't want to predict injury for anybody obviously and but this is it This is an interesting thought exercise because that was the excuse that was given for leaving Florida State out.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Jordan Travis's injury. Now look, since Jordan Travis has not been the Florida State's quarterback, I actually kind of think it was less of an excuse than a legitimate concern, but in the 12 team era, an undefeated team is not getting left out because the quarterback got hurt. That's not happening. But will injuries play into it? Like, for example,
Starting point is 00:44:15 we talked about South Carolina earlier. If Lenora Sellers doesn't go down at halftime of the LSU game, South Carolina wins a game, right? Yeah, well, here's what we have what we have to break down. Okay. First of all, there's no such thing as precedent when it comes to the committee. They don't look at decisions that were made in the past and adhere to those things, right? That's the definition of precedent. It happened before, so we have to use that as a guideline on what to do now. Isn't that how the law works, Andy? I was on jury duty, but they didn't call me.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I don't know for sure, but it's like this happened in 1977, which is precedent for how it's supposed to go now. Correct. That's not how it works. That changes as society changes, but yes, correct. But that's not how the college football playoff committee works. They don't even have precedent on things
Starting point is 00:45:00 that they did the week before, half the time. Right. So they do what they think is best in the moment, and then the next week when there's a new moment,. So they do what they think is best in the moment. And then the next week when there's a new moment, they try to do what they think is best in that moment. Second of all, last year's season was an absolute dumpster fire in terms of having five teams to choose from
Starting point is 00:45:16 and only four spots. Like even if Florida State would have gone, Alabama would have felt slighted. And I think that the reason why Florida State, it would have been the first year, no matter what Andy, that we, that we felt like it was an impossible decision. Like somebody would have felt slighted and that would have been the first time since even 14 that that happened to anybody.
Starting point is 00:45:37 But we also had sample size of what post Jordan Travis Florida State looked like. Right. The Florida game and the ACC championship game. They had two games of it. Yeah. So like, I understand, though I thought the decision was wrong, that you have to reward the team
Starting point is 00:45:56 that kept winning. I don't think that Florida state was a better football team than Alabama at the time the decision was made. So that is how we got there. That said, now there are more spots, right? So if Oregon's an undefeated team or a one loss team and like their quarterback gets injured in the big 10 championship game with a month to prepare and how many slots are left, you still like, you have, there's more margin for error
Starting point is 00:46:22 of like putting them down at the bottom of the bracket, but still in, right? Like you, right. Last year, there were no spots. So there was no risk that can be made. But like now, a team that you're unsure of, like Florida State, if this happened last year, like Florida State could have easily been the nine or eight seed, right? And it wouldn't have been a problem. So also, Oregon has Dante Moore on its team, a player who has started in the Pac-12 in the past. I don't know that I believe that Oregon's offense would be as dysfunctional as Florida State's became after Jordan Travis got injured last year. So it's kind of an amalgamation of a lot of things. Yeah. And the other thing with Florida State, that was a weird situation because Tate Rodemacher played against Florida, got hurt, and then couldn't play against Louisville in the ACC championship game. So they were they were down to the third stringer Brock
Starting point is 00:47:08 Glenn at that point and so it was it was a weird situation but I don't think so the Seth McLaughlin injury you know it's funny because we talk about this in terms of quarterback injuries not funny but we talked about in terms of quarterback injuries I would argue that if Ohio State were to lose this game because of Seth McLaughlin's injury and then figure out their offensive line for the Michigan game, that you probably would take that into account. Maybe. But I don't think they're thinking about it. I think they wanted a reason to leave out Florida State and they left out Florida State. And taking into account Seth McLaughlin's injury, if it cost him the Indiana game, the math will equal the same result, right? Like whether he got injured or not, because if they lose to Indiana, they're probably
Starting point is 00:47:51 still in. So like that bottom of the bracket instead of the top. Yeah. Fully healthy Ohio State with a loss to Indiana is still probably in the in the field. So also, also because of all the deliberate miss seeding. I'm not sure being the 11 seed is really all that different from you know, it depends on how it all breaks out. Like the 11 seed might wind up with an easier path depending on who the three seed is. Look at your bracket Andy, would you
Starting point is 00:48:17 rather be the 11 or the seven? I'd rather be the 11. Much rather be the 11. Much rather be the 11. Would you rather be the the 11 or the 7 is funny because the 7 has an unequivocally harder path and like also to the seating. I think we're going to come find come to find out is not it's going to be complete nonsense when we finally get to
Starting point is 00:48:39 the end. They're going to change this in 2026 because it's going to see it like when you actually see it and it's real and that's how they have to play the games They're gonna be like this is so stupid. We have to fix this. They're gonna change it in 2026 I'm telling you right now the the what's the only they'll maybe have the auto bids for the conference champs But it's gonna be that gets you in it doesn't get you Seated in the wrong place. What's the repair? I don't even know how to fix it because you can't reseed because they need to know their opponents in advance.
Starting point is 00:49:09 No, you just say you just you don't give because remember that they're going to go to 14. So there's going to be two buys and you just don't do the automatic bias for conference champs. You just say you rank them one through 14 the top five conference champs get in. So if the fifth highest ranked conference champ is ranked number 16, well, they'll get in as the 14 seed and the 14 number 14 falls out and doesn't get the at large. But you just go one, two, three, four or five with the, with the first seeds. Yeah. Can I ask you just a, this is the R-E-Mail bag question.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Cause I just saw on the comments here that they would rather have the seven seed than the 11 cause they get a home game. Would you rather play a home game against a team that might win the national championship or would you rather play an away game against a team that you're unequivocally better than? Choice B.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I wanna play against a team I'm better than. People- People don't think people look and don't think the home game. Like that's okay. Would you rather play the Patriots at home or your little brother on the road? Like it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, no, I, I, and for, for those listening in podcast form, the way the brackets set we were using the the committee's rankings from this week so it would be Georgia at 11 playing at Penn State in the first round or Indiana at 7 hosting Ole Miss the Georgia Penn State winner plays Miami the Ole Miss Indiana winner plays, Texas. I Would rather be Georgia in that situation. I would also rather be Penn State in that situation.
Starting point is 00:50:46 So like yeah, 11 is better than seven in that situation. So all right, next question. Dear Andy and Ari, first thing, I was at the Florida game on Saturday for my first one in the swamp and upset didn't run into you. Sorry, sorry about this Colin. This is Colin who's asking the question. I did run into Brandon Spikes randomly and that is a large man. Yes former Florida linebacker Brandon spikes will make you wonder how? Huge people like that ever played linebacker, but he did and played it really well Anyways, you have recruiting is bouncing back after that electric win versus LSU and Florida players may single-handedly get Napier back in good Graces do either of you recall a single win for a program that changed the trajectory upward for a university
Starting point is 00:51:27 even during a losing or 500 season? Thanks, and by the way, Ari, congrats on the weight loss journey. I am currently on the same journey. So Colin, now I don't know that the LSU game for Florida reversed that much. I do think it certainly helped. I think DJ Lagway the
Starting point is 00:51:46 quarterback the entity is what is saving Billy Napier this season But I do think that helped and now Florida is is trying to flip Let's let's put up that that graphic of the Florida flip targets because there's there's quite a few of them Name offered the the five-starplus corner who's committed to Ohio State. They're trying to get Solomon Thomas, the offensive lineman committed to Florida State. Dallas Wilson, the receiver committed to Oregon. Dallas Wilson is a Tampa guy.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Jamie French is a receiver from Jacksonville, committed to Texas. Defensive lineman Myron Charles is committed to Texas. Tavares Dice, who's a DT, or I'm sorry, an OT, who's committed to Auburn. That's who they're trying to get. They're trying to flip some of those guys. They might get one or two, and if they do, that's great. Trying to think of a game. Actually, there's a Florida game that comes to mind, and it's the 2005 Tennessee game. Now, it wasn't during an under 500 or even a 500 season, but it's funny
Starting point is 00:52:45 cause that this is how much the standards have changed at Florida. That was urban Myers first year. He ended up winning eight games that season. Uh, I think they won nine games with the bowl game, but eight games that regular season and everybody thought that was a failure and just like Ron's looks last season and you know, we're a little down, but the recruiting was up. And so that Tennessee game was one where they had Tim Tebow, Percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes in the house.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I believe all those guys came back for the Florida State game, but the Tennessee game was early in the season. It was kind of when they got together and realized, all right, if we all come and we're all together, this could be a pretty interesting situation. Ari, I'm trying to think of some other situations where a team was not having that great of a year, but you could tell by the end of the season the trajectory was right and they had
Starting point is 00:53:36 a good recruiting class coming. Yeah, I'm trying to think of just coaches that were once really much, like, what was like, are there any Michigan games that stand out? Like before Arbaugh took off that make you feel like, oh, that because like, who are the coaches that were on the hot seat that turned around in like one big later? Like, I don't even know if I it was hard, Bob, but that you know, that was because the 2020 season that was just, you know, that doesn't really count. And then he was great in 2021. They didn't have a win in 2020 that made you be like, okay. And he was already towards the end of his tenure. At that point, I'm trying to think of something
Starting point is 00:54:12 that's similar, something's coming to mind right now. Yeah, that Urban Meyer one, and again, it's not the same thing, cause this Florida team is very different record wise and a very different place in terms of where it is in the SEC than the 05 and 04 Florida teams were. But at the time, the Florida fans considered that to be disastrous and unacceptable. And so that was the class that really did turn it around and bring them back to national title contention that 2006 class. So it was those guys getting together I'd say in the in the 05 Tennessee game that that really did it. And that was a trouncing of Tennessee by Florida in the swamp. All right, another question from Ty. This is
Starting point is 00:54:56 different Tyler than the first question. If Army beats Notre Dame, would Army and Boise State get in pushing out the Big 12 or the ACC champ? This is a really interesting question. Given the rankings as they are, the answer is yes. If the rankings were to stay similar to what they are, if every Army beats Notre Dame and then beats Tulane for the American Championship and beat, well, I don't even think they have to be UTSA in between, but they probably would. So let's say Army's undefeated beats Tulane for the American Championship. And let's say that Boise State continues to win, plays UNLV again in the Mountain West
Starting point is 00:55:36 Championship, wins that 12 and one. And then your big 12 champs going to be a one loss BYU, a two loss Colorado, two loss Arizona State gonna be a one loss BYU, a two loss Colorado, two loss Arizona State, could be a two loss BYU. Actually, I don't think it could. Could be a two loss Iowa State though. They're still in it. Right now, the closest team to Boise State is BYU and they're two spots away.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I think if BYU were to win out Ari, because they'd have to beat Arizona State this weekend, they'd probably have to beat Colorado in the Big 12 Championship game. I think they might have a chance of getting in over Boise State. Would Colorado or Arizona State though? Like Arizona State's way back there.
Starting point is 00:56:24 There is no scenario where two group of five teams are gonna make it at the expense of a power conference champion, in my opinion. If you say so. Now, Notre Dame has to beat Ohio state, or sorry, Notre Dame has to beat arm. If Notre Dame beats army, that's it. So. Well, here's has to be an army. If Notre Dame beats Army, that's it. So, uh, well, here's the yeah. Yeah. You know, Tulane still exists too.
Starting point is 00:56:52 So I don't know that if it's just Army beats Notre Dame, they got to go win their conference still. Oh, exactly. Yeah. That was like very hard. But I'm saying if Notre Dame beats Army, this is not even a concern. This is right. Yeah. Uh, Andy, before you go to the next question, I'm just wanted to point out that the Julian Lewis, the five star quarterback will announce his decision on Pat McAfee at 1210 Eastern time, which is around when we might be live. We'll be finishing up in a hard count. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Julian Lewis recruit from Carrollton, Georgia quarterback recruit had been committed to USC, decommitted from USC. Who's he gonna commit to Ari?
Starting point is 00:57:28 Who knows? It's Colorado. He's gonna commit to Colorado. That's the answer. It's electric. Wouldn't it be crazy if he went on there and everybody thought it was Colorado and it was just IU going into the Ohio State game?
Starting point is 00:57:40 Oh my God, that'd be electric. That would be unbelievable, Coach Sig. Like they bring on, well, coach six could just drive over from Bloomington because that's where he's sitting in Indianapolis. Put a cigarette in his ear when he comes on. I don't think he wants to. He wants to be a good. Good example for the kids. No, he's going to Colorado because like.
Starting point is 00:58:05 So I noticed on Get Up, multiple Dion Sanders segments, mentions of Julian Lewis on Get Up. They don't talk recruiting on shows like this. So Dion's pressing the buttons right now. Sigs has some buttons to press, but I don't think he has those buttons. That's electric. God, I cannot believe this. If you would have told me in September that we would be on the show November 21st talking about Colorado making the playoff and Julian Lewis coming in there, I would have shit my pants. So good on Dion. Exactly, exactly. And we'll talk about it more because we've got
Starting point is 00:58:51 it, we're gonna do a probably a dedicated Julian Lewis to Colorado video when he does commit. But I think there's a there's something that Dion can offer in terms of NIL and that sort of thing, even though they don't have as much money necessarily Colorado some of these other schools. Like, Deon gets you into a KFC commercial. Is there a coach does rules for the coach who is in every other commercial during the Super Bowl getting his players in commercials with his gotten his players into commercials? No, I know. But like, there's no gray area. There's no gray area there. The company can say that's who we hired. That the coach had nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 00:59:30 We just hired Julian Lewis in an Aflac commercial. And hit make up the difference of what they lack in NIL. I mean, theoretically, look at that. That synergy right there. The question is, what will Nick Saban say about that? I mean, theoretically. Look at that. That's synergy right there. The question is, what will Nick Saban say about that? That would be the best part. Like Nick Saban coaching up Julie and Lewis in some regard. I don't write commercials,
Starting point is 00:59:55 but they could come up with something funny. You just wrote one. You just wrote one. And here's my take on commercials, Andy. They should always be funny. Every one of them. There should never be a serious commercial no no all right this question comes from Joe not so much a question just observation on a lot of
Starting point is 01:00:15 things well he's got one question but the rest of it's amazing and and I I want to meet Jonah's daughter like driving to ballet, listening to our show, because I would never be able to get my daughter, who's the same age, who I also often drive to ballet, to listen to our show. So I appreciate that Joe's daughter is cool. So, from Joe, my Longhorns haven't beaten any one of note, yet they are a great win for Georgia.
Starting point is 01:00:40 This is a circular argument, how can both views be accurate at the same time? Also, the Dawgs defense kicked our ass in the first half only their offense had four scoring drives that averaged 20 yards. Clearly better than my team, but not an ass whipping to as my Longhorns prove their worth on the field. What would excite the Aggies most beating us and missing the playoff or losing to us and making the playoff? Don't do the middle math to determine if these scenarios are possible. Musings with my 13 year old daughter to and from ballet.
Starting point is 01:01:09 You're so stressed out for Halloween as Andy and Ari. I love the niche, love the niche costume. I will be the lumberjack with the plunger below and you can wear one of your princess costumes and be Ari, do his penchant for bidets. I sent my daughter your tweet about Ari and his slurpee. Her response was, Oh, Andy should be so embarrassed. I said it was Ari. Her response was, Oh, that makes more sense. I love this girl. That's a real, they know.
Starting point is 01:01:38 They know. Um, yeah. And you know what? I'm happy to be the guy that does that. I'm happy to be. People get it. Dads get it. They do. When they get, when they get, when they get those days. So I actually think Joe's right about the circular logic. Like if you're going to think Texas,
Starting point is 01:01:58 like if you're going to be one of those people that says Texas doesn't have a good win, they're not, they're not proven, then you can't give Jordan credit for beating them either. Yeah. It is always interesting that way, um, that we perceive Texas to be good, but where they're ranked, but here's the thing. It counts for Georgia now because the value of a win only is as good
Starting point is 01:02:24 as where a team is ranked. Right. It counts for Georgia now because the value of a win only is as good as where a team is ranked. Right. So if, and it's back in the chain being it's booing Georgia. Yeah. But if Texas were to go get their butts kicked in college station, they would probably fall to around the 1112 range and on the bubble, thus would be a less valuable asset for Georgia to sell to the committee later on.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Now, that said, I don't think that teams get penalized ever or all that much when their best win goes down in quality. Like you don't see a team fall in the polls after a win because the team that was always bolstering up their resume lost, right? Yeah. So it is true. Exactly in the chat. Texas has a great defense? Yes, they're actually number one in the country in yards per play allowed. So yes, they have a very good defense. Yeah. The other question, which would be more important to Texas A&M fans,
Starting point is 01:03:20 beating Texas and missing the playoff or losing to Texas and making the playoff, there's no scenario where they lose to Texas and make the playoff. So that's out. But the beating Texas and missing the playoff or losing to Texas and making the playoff. There's no scenario where they lose to Texas and make the playoff. So that's that's out. But the beating Texas, it would rather which one do you think they would covet more? I think they want to make the playoff. I don't know. I think it's both like, but yes, they can beat them and miss the playoff because they lose to Auburn this weekend, they'll miss the playoff, because if they lose to Auburn this weekend,
Starting point is 01:03:45 they'll miss the playoff. But then they could beat Texas and potentially knock them out too. I think that beating Texas would be a more valuable thing for them than than making the playoff and not advancing to the semifinal. In terms of fan coveted memory. True, and bragging rights for a year. If you knew if you do,
Starting point is 01:04:07 if the SEC screws up schedule, if you knew going into it, how the playoff run would end. Like I think that they would take the playoff lottery ticket up front, but if you knew the playoff would end in one or two games and you would not make the semis, I think they would
Starting point is 01:04:22 take the Texas game. I think you're right about that. I think you're right about that. I think you're right about that. This is a really good one from Dylan. I was looking back at an episode from a couple of weeks ago and did my best to try to extend the Mason-Dixon line to Provo. This is when we had Doug Laymore, Eson,
Starting point is 01:04:38 and I was trying to get BYU in the south. Provo is further north in the original Mason-Dixon line between Pennsylvania and Maryland. But when the lines extended throughout the 19th century,-Dixon line between Pennsylvania and Maryland, but when the lines extended throughout the 19th century, it ended up running between Missouri and Iowa. The Missouri-Iowa state line is further north than Provo. I would have to guess that if it had continued, Kansas and Colorado would have been above it, so that would have put Provo in the north.
Starting point is 01:04:58 If it had extended straight above Kansas and Colorado, Provo would be in the south. So after spending a whole 15 minutes on this, I'm about as clueless as I was before, so it seems the debate can continue on the show. Hope this helps. Hey, I'm going to tell you something, Dylan. I didn't know there were, there was an original Mason-Dixon line. Like I didn't even. I mean, there is a Mason-Dixon line, so there had to be an original one. I didn't know it changed. I just thought the Mason Dixon line was just the Mason Dixon line. I didn't know if they altered where it was on the map. I always just thought it was the line between North and South,
Starting point is 01:05:34 and that's where it's always been. Yeah, as the country expanded West, they expanded a little bit, but didn't didn't expand it all the way. So we'll never know. I like more West. Why would they expand up or down? I think they just expanded it to match state lines as opposed to having part of a state above and part of a state below. I feel like Ari just explained the equator
Starting point is 01:06:06 next on the show, the prime meridian. All right, one more, one more. And it's from JT. Two things. Ari, buddy, if I can take my wheelchair out and wheel four miles in an hour, five to six days a week, you can do a 5k. I'm actually rooting for that scenario to happen so that you find out you can actually do it and it won't be a bad time. I'm serious though.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I think I could do it. It's and it won't be a bad time. I'm serious though. I think I could do it. It's not going to not be a bad time though. You're in so much better shape than you think you actually, it would be, I think it would be fairly, cause you do these high intensity interval workouts that are hard. I know they are. I know I've seen what you do after a minute. Like you, it's a terrible minute, but then you can read, but you don't like
Starting point is 01:06:43 it, stop with running a steady state run. You don't get to terrible. You just stay steady. So like you wouldn't be feeling terrible. You don't you wouldn't need the rest because you're already in good enough shape. I'm telling the hit training will have you ready for this because you're going to lose. Colorado is going to win my more than a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:07:01 You are going to do a 5K. I am in a live stream. That will be our pregame show. But from JT on a serious note, you both inspired me over the years I've been living disabled now for 13 years in a wheelchair now for 10 years. Long story short, I was in rough shape. I would try to work out but I saw no real progress but I felt better. So I kept using my seated elliptical but I was barely burning
Starting point is 01:07:21 anything off. Over the years I've been listening to you guys that your former employer and I followed you both of your weight loss journeys. I had a picture of me taking out of Florida baseball game this past spring and I looked at it and said, who is this person and what happened? So I decided it was time to follow your guys lead because I said to myself, if those two assholes can do it,
Starting point is 01:07:37 so can I. I was in Gainesville this past weekend and I had a picture taken of me and it's night and day. Andy, you turned me on to intermittent fasting. I followed as regularly as possible, maybe missing five days over the past three months. I'm from Gainesville this past weekend and I had a picture taken of me and it's night and day. Andy, you turned me on to intermittent fasting. I followed as regularly as possible, maybe missing five days over the past three months. Ari, I followed your lead and took my manual wheelchair out
Starting point is 01:07:52 and started rolling along. Now I can go about four miles in an hour. Some days not so good, some days better than others. I strive to go five to six days during a week. I work in football, so time is limited. In the off season, I try to hit six to seven days a week. Thanks guys, you helped me through COVID and you're helping me now.
Starting point is 01:08:07 More than you could ever know. JT, that was awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you for listening and keep working. I mean, you're inspiring us. We're not doing anything. The fact that you can get out and do this, trust me, when I say I don't wanna go to the gym today
Starting point is 01:08:26 or I don't wanna think about what I eat today, that that will inspire me a lot more than we've inspired you, I promise. So, and it- Congratulations on the weight loss too. I mean, it's not easy. Yeah. Don't get slowly delivered to your house. It's a big detriment.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Exactly. You know how much weight I gained from Sunday to Monday. How much? I was seven pounds heavier on Monday than I was on Sunday and I didn't eat as much you eat well normally and when you eat poorly for a day after eating well normally it's usually there's so much salt that you retain a lot of water. Yeah, and there's a lot of really seven dominoes, cheesy bread. But at the I, but I wanted to report that I weigh less
Starting point is 01:09:12 this morning than I did when I woke up on Sunday, which means that I had a terrible eating day and then I was able to bounce back and eat clean for three days. And then now not only did that not matter, but I'm even a little bit lighter than before so we're humming yeah and I just like I couldn't be on a show where my face was a beach ball and I was like going next to you who's like lost a hundred pounds like you're like tiny now and that was it for
Starting point is 01:09:38 me so it was 2020 the intermittent fasting part I don't do intermittent fasting as strictly as I used to anymore but but I still, like most days I do. I'll kind of decide, hey, today's a breakfast day, and then figure out the rest of the day. But for me, it was a, we went on a family trip in January of 2020, so this is before the pandemic, and I looked like Charlie Brown.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Like my head looked like Charlie, it was perfectly round. Like it was a winter trip, so I'm in like a big, like my head looked like Charlie, it was perfectly round. Like it was a winter trip, so I'm in like a big bulky coat. And it looked like there was just a beach ball sitting on top of my body. And I was like, I can't do this anymore. I can't be this person anymore. And so if you wanna do it, you can.
Starting point is 01:10:20 It's frustrating, it's hard. If you wanna do it, you can. And there's actually, you know, there's medication now that can help too. Like don't feel like it's impossible because it is. Sometimes it's just a matter of getting out moving. Sometimes it's a matter of this one bag of chips I'm not going to open.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Like you can start it that way and get into it gradually, but you can do it. Andy, can I ask just one quick diet question? Mm-hmm. Because I've never understood this because I don't intermittent fast and I see a bunch of people are talking about intermittent fasting in the chat.
Starting point is 01:10:57 If you ate the same things for a seven day period in scenario A and scenario B, the same total same total calories the same foods the same types of foods Everything's identical But in scenario a you only ate those foods in total calories between 12 and 8 or 12 and 7 or whatever Window is and in scenario B you ate it whenever you want after doing that for a month Same in same out same workouts. Everything else is the same. The only difference is when you eat. Are you going to be lighter in scenario A or is just a way to
Starting point is 01:11:32 make you not eat more? I think it's a good way to make you not eat more. At first, you'll probably lose some weight because of the way your body reacts to being in a fasted state. But I will tell you, having done it for about four, well over four years now, your body gets used to everything. So if you were eating the same amount of calories,
Starting point is 01:11:54 like you would level off and you just stay at the same weight. Cause like my understanding is that just, there's so many diet books of South Beach diet and Atkins and all that. And it's just like, there's only one calories a day and, I wanna make a diet book it's not that hard this is the diet book I want to make the greatest diet book in the history of the world every so like your your odd numbers page number pages are on the right in a book and your even number
Starting point is 01:12:18 pages are on the left every even numbered page says eat less. Every odd numbered page says exercise more. And it's like 200 pages of that. But it should just be, and I guess it depends on your height and age and sex. But my diet plan has just been eat 2000 calories or less a day and walk 10,000 steps. And then I get my workouts in, but like-
Starting point is 01:12:45 Right, and you're, so you are running, cause you're running a deficit. Like you are running a calorie deficit every single day and that's why you're losing weight. And I eat carbs and I eat potato chips and I eat, but all within the 2000 calorie window. There you go. And there's a difference-
Starting point is 01:13:02 And Andy and I have gotten after it on the road. Like when we went out to... The cinnamon roll at the machine shed? Yeah, when we were driving to the Midwest, we went to the Cracker Barrel, and I think the both of us put down like 30 biscuits between the two of us. So like we are, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:18 you can still have days where you're not doing great, but it's just about the consistency. Like I used to just like drink a bunch of regular soda and eat crap for every meal every day. One thing I've found, especially with the exercise, like some people, if you're like me, like I feel like I got to do like a hard workout, like a, you know, what are the, what are these, the college players do? Like that's, that's a real workout. Anything else, anything less is not enough. One thing, as I've gotten older, I've realized some days you just need to get out and do something. Go for a long walk. Do some elliptical. Do you know, just move a little bit. And then tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:13:58 if you have some time and the desire, do the hard workout. But you don't have to every day. Like everybody's got their own kind of weird mental quirks about this stuff. And so you just gotta, you gotta forgive yourself sometimes because it's never gonna be exactly what you want it to be. It's never gonna be perfect. The scale's not gonna always say what you want it to say and you just forgive yourself and you keep moving. And if you are really overweight, like I was over 300 bills when I started, okay?
Starting point is 01:14:26 Three bills. Walking is really, really good for you. Like it's very underrated. Like if you walk, it's not something that kills you. Like I would just go to the mall and walk around in circles with my earbuds in. And maybe I was an 80 year old Jewish man in Boca Raton, but I did it.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And it's just like walking around. You will be you will be someday Ari. So it's just yeah, we want to look at the double date last night. And I brought up the SL 500 everybody at dinner. And I think Brit wanted to strangle me. Of course, of course she does. That's OK. It's not going to be your daily driver. Everybody love your questions.
Starting point is 01:15:02 We actually have more of your questions to answer because we are filling in for JD one more day are in the hard count. So why don't you join us in 14 minutes on the on three sports YouTube channel 11 a.m. Eastern Time. We talked a little Julian Lewis. We talked a little Jim Phillips defending the honor of the ACC finally. Politic and before it counts. We'll talk about that on the hard count.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Otherwise, we'll see you on Saturday.

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