Andy & Ari On3 - Opting out (or not) for dummies | Oklahoma fans hate Ari | How to handle a QB

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

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who basically said that Oklahoma is going to lose by a thousand. Yeah. I picked the team that everyone expects to win by a lot to win by a lot. Yeah. Super controversial stuff. Yeah, I know. But Ari,

you're a guy who like, you understand all this Vegas stuff and i know but are you're a guy like you understand all this vegas stuff and you know you you follow point spreads in history and like do you do you actually know what the record of the favorite in this game is in the last 15 meetings but you looked that up because i'd like to know yeah i did look it up yes i did so because i was wondering because you know i've been to a couple of these, been to a few of these Red River games, and they've always seemed kind of weird. Like there's a weird energy in the stadium.

It's very cool, 50-50 split. It's different because I know this is an SEC game for the first time, so people are like, oh, it's just like Georgia and Florida playing in Jacksonville. It doesn't feel the same. Like when Florida and Georgia play in Jacksonville, usually the best team wins like 2014 when the, the public's bag boy scored on the fake field goal and they save will must champ shop for two weeks. Like that was one of the ones that were, they didn't, the best team didn't necessarily win, but usually the best team wins. In this game in Red River, it's wild.

Okay, so last 15 meetings, the favorite is 6-8-1 against the spread. Now, that doesn't mean they necessarily lost the game outright, but they've not covered eight times. There was a push in 2009. Texas was a three-point favorite in one by three. So it is a strange game. And Oklahoma had a run of just couldn't cover the spread situations. So 2013 is the one I always come back to. That's Mac's last game in this rivalry as the Texas coach. And Oklahoma was a 14.5 point favorite.

Texas won 36-20. It was like Oklahoma couldn't do anything in that game. It was wild. But there was a lot of that. Basically that entire stretch where Oklahoma was better than Texas and Vegas thought them to Oklahoma was better than Texas and Vegas thought them to be significantly better than Texas, but in this game could not,

couldn't really blow them out. So that's when you look that up, when you look that up, did you, did they show you the spreads of the games too, or just the record? Yes, I have the spreads of all of them.

Okay. How many of them were three scores? Uh, let's see. 2014, Oklahoma was a 14 and5-point favorite. Oklahoma won 31-26. 2013, Oklahoma was a 14.5-point favorite.

Texas won 36-20. Not three scores, but 2016 was 13.5 Oklahoma was favored, and Oklahoma won by five. 2015, Oklahoma was a 13.5-point favorite, and Texas won by seven. So, Oklahoma was a 13.5 point favorite. And Texas won by seven. So pretty much all of them, the favorite did not cover the spread. All of those big ones. So let's go.

Let's put up a big bag on this and go Texas. Go Moneyline too. Listen, I know that the game is weird. I watch it on TV. This is going to be my first time going, but I i watch it on tv this is gonna be my first time going but i've watched it on tv since i can remember every year because it's one of the coolest things in the sport i know that things go off the rails um i just didn't pick for things to go off the rails but if they do i'm not gonna be surprised it's happened so frequently, but I'm just glad that Oklahoma fans are on you because they, they,

they do not like when you insinuate, they might lose a football game. They get very angry. If you insinuate that they, their team might not win a particular football game. Like, yeah, I said all summer,

watch out for that Tennessee game. And they're like, are you kidding kidding don't you know we're oklahoma don't you know we win every game and like you win most games but you don't win all of them and maybe you won't win this one and guess what they didn't i also said the auburn game might be a problem they won won that game. It was a problem, but we should come up with the thing that you think could go most haywire on Saturday.

Would Jackson Arnold having to come into the game and leading Oklahoma to a win be the most haywire thing? Or maybe something with Arch Manning, but if this game... Arch Manning's story would be the most haywire thing or maybe something with arch manning but like if this game an arch manning story would be the most haywire um so we're going to talk about all of this and we can we can actually talk about it now there's a ton of stuff to talk about today we can we can put it in any order but

the most haywire thing i think oklahoma defense, because this is where you said yesterday, this is another thing that pissed the Oklahoma fans off, is you made it sound like every position group at Texas is better than every position group at Oklahoma. I don't necessarily think that's true. I think it's true for most of the position groups, but Oklahoma's defense is pretty good at forcing turnovers. I am curious if Oklahoma's defense can force some early turnovers, create some short

fields, you know, maybe that causes this game to turn. Now, let me ask you this, Ari. I'm curious about this because we actually were set up to talk about this. You and I talked about this off air yesterday. We talked about how marvelously Steve Sarkeesian has handled his quarterback situation in terms of making sure everybody knows Quinn Ewers is the starter. When Quinn Ewers is back healthy, he'll be the starter, and that'll be this week. But what if Danny Stutzman and the crew force some turnovers? They force an interception, or they're stripping Quinn Ewers. If you're Sark, what do you do on that? Yeah, I think that the way that Steve Sarkeesian has

handled this quarterback situation has been, like you said yesterday, a master class in terms of not making it bigger than it is, maintaining who the starting quarterback is going to be, letting Arch Manning go out there, operate, maybe even starting him a game longer than he would have had he been nervous about people getting antsy about who the starting quarterback is. And we're not really questioning it. It's three weeks or four weeks after this happened, Arch Manning has played three full games, basically,

and has looked really good in those games, and we're not questioning it. So the thing that I think Steve Sarkeesian does, if he even thinks about putting Arch Manning in, is all of the goodwill and all of the work that he's done over the course of the past month in terms of harboring this discussion and not making up controversy out of it goes out the window. The second you rely on Arch Manning to do something that Quinn Ewers can't do is the second you open the conversation for whether or not the starting quarterback of the team is correct. Do you see what I'm saying? Arch Manning was playing because the starting quarterback was unable to play physically. But if you put Arch Manning into the game and the game is in question

because the starting quarterback is failing, then you are basically saying to the world, I'm not sure who the best player is for the team right now. And then that is when things would go crazy. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, we always go back to Herm Edwards here, but you play to win the games. And at that point, you have to do what you have to do to win the games.

Tanner asked the chat, handled it great. Everything seems pretty straightforward. Why does Sark deserve credit? Tanner, have you watched how other college football coaches handle quarterback situations? Like, watch what Mike Gundy's doing right now

with Alan Bowman and Garrett Rangel. You may not find out until they kick off against BYU in like, I'm bad at math, 12 days, 11 days, who actually is their starting quarterback at Oklahoma State right now. Like, it's the Cam Rising discourse. Like, Kyle Whittingham has okie-dokke this on Cam Rising so many times at this point. Like this is actually very refreshing because Sark's like, hey, Quinn's a starting quarterback.

Arch has been great. Quinn's a starting quarterback. And I think a lot of that is because Arch's situation is unique. The Manning family understands this. He doesn't have a dad who's saying, if my kid doesn't start, we're going to shut this down in red shirt. They don't have that situation. They understand Arch only needs one good year

as the starter at Texas, and he can go to the NFL and fulfill his destiny. Like they don't have to put any pressure on anybody. And I think that's one thing that makes us different. But I will point out, Ari, and I think we've talked about this a little bit already. I think Brent Venables handled his quarterback situation about as well as he could have as well. Because in the Tennessee game, he brings in Michael Hawkins to replace Jackson Arnold.

Very quickly, the following Monday of the Auburn week, he's like, Michael Hawkins is the guy. He's starting. He didn't stretch it out. He didn't make... It's not even the external thing where he told all of us. It's more the internal thing where they made it very clear quickly and didn't draw that out either so that everybody kind of knew where they stood.

Yeah. And the second you make a decision that is contradictory to the actions and behavior and words that you use is when things go off the rails. So if there is a scenario where Oklahoma is failing on offense on Saturday and they go to Jackson Arnold, then it's a discussion point every single day until there's a starter named again. So I don't know that that's going to happen, but you like to point out that this game goes crazy. I think that him coming into the game, Arnold that is,

would be a crazy, unforeseen twist in a game that always seems to illustrate those. Well, and that's the thing. It's interesting because in the last 20 years or so, there's only been one situation where you had a quarterback come in. You'd think it would actually happen a little more often but it was it was caleb williams coming in for spencer rattler in 2021 right and that was pretty obvious move to make now in hindsight looking back at it like yeah of course

he came in yeah i mean that and that was a crazy game that was you know xavier worthy on the first play of the game goes deep as a true freshman and you know in his firsty on the first play of the game goes deep as a, as a true freshman. And, you know, in his first play in the red river game, like you think about all the talent that was on the field that day, it was pretty fun, but this is, this is going to be a fun game. And as history says, it does tend to go off the rails. It does at least tend to not go by the, what, what Vegas necessarily thinks is going to happen which i think is what makes it so much fun i also love that oklahoma fans just despise ari it really it goes back to a tweet that you've since disavowed anyway but you said basically that michael hawkins couldn't throw which not true um. I think what the Oklahoma fans don't understand,

but I understand because I know you, is this is just a case of five-star brain. You're just like, oh, he's the four-star quarterback. He can't possibly be as good as the five-star quarterback. But as we all know, it's not like five-star safeties which are a pretty high hit rate five-star quarterbacks are still like a 50-50 proposition i think that what i do in ralph russo who listens to our show at the athletic will be the first person to tell you is is that a lot of times when i am thinking something or I'm in the moment, like I will use harsh language.

It's something that actually happens in my marriage too, of just like when I am having a discussion or an argument or a thought, like I don't sugarcoat it. I don't like to say soft things, but sometimes I say harsh things that are too harsh. And saying he can't throw was not the right thing to say. But the thing that irritates me about the entire discourse of it is, is that that tweet went completely unnoticed for two hours

until after he threw those single pass of the game that you've shown me and they show me over and over and over again. And then we dismissed the entire game as if, as if Oklahoma was throwing the ball. I tweeted it at a time where they couldn't get a first down and every single throw that the man attempted to make was an incomplete pass. Some were missed targets. Some, no one was open. I understand the offensive line stinks. I also understand that they're receiving Corwin, but if it turns out that he is not a really good passer and by that I mean right now because he's young Ari who has a higher completion percentage this year no I understand Michael

Hopkins Jackson Arnold yeah who who has who has a higher completion percentage yeah Michael Hawkins so who's better at throwing the ball I think he's throwing the ball half as much though too right I've got a number but yeah, actually a third as much, but he's actually way more efficient at it. Okay. So I'm just saying like that's more. That's you watch the Auburn game. And did you think that that was a very proficient game passing?

Did you, did you think that you saw that? You're like, I see a great passing situation here. Is that what you saw? I'm going i'm gonna i'm gonna look at the numbers i saw a quarterback average 10.7 yards per pass attempt do you know what 10.7 yards per pass attempt can get you in some cases in some what are you saying i don't know i don't know i can get you the heisman trophy i mean like 10.7 yards per pass attempt is extremely efficient and how many very good day passing ball hmm what when he i'm saying after he threw that pick or not i'm sorry not that pick that long

touchdown which is a tremendous throw and a game winningwinning play. I'm not diminishing it. He was 10 of 15. You're telling me he had a bad day of passing the ball when he was 10 of 15 for 161 yards. That is an incredibly efficient day throwing the football. That is incredibly good. All right. the football that is incredibly good all right if you saw that's what you want and you saw a really good passing situation then i was wrong but i didn't see that when i was watching the game and you can use 10.7 yards per attempt is every coach will take that how long was the

touchdown throw it wasn't like 65 yards though, so that was 40% of his entire passing output on the day? 10.7 per attempt. Shall we look at the national leaders in yards per attempt? Jackson Dart is leading the country at 12.1. There's actually only five that average 10.7 or more now. Michael Hawkins Jr. has not attempted enough passes to get onto this list. Really? So we'll see.

It's a small sample size. But you're telling me it was a bad performance, and I'm telling you it wasn't because the numbers tell us it wasn't. I'm not saying that. Now, perhaps it was an anomaly, but the data we have is pretty good. So let me name you the quarterbacks who aver average 10.7 or more yards per attempt. Drew Aller, Curtis Rourke, the Maple Missile, Arch Manning, Jalen Milrow, and Jackson Dart. That's the list. Okay, well, you feel pretty good.

Like, listen, if the guy comes out and throws for 10.7 yards at an attempt and they're moving the football through the air then i was wrong but i i don't know the thing that i feel like is happening here is i have a thought in the second quarter or the early third quarter of a game that thought was largely appropriate given nobody reacted to it for two hours and then three hours later or two hours later when he makes the big the lone big play of the game then all of a sudden we circle back to the thing that you probably agreed with at the time and then i'm an asshole for it and i can can't stand that. Ari, I have a rule. Never tweet in the first quarter.

Probably never tweet in the second quarter or the third quarter either. I think it was like the late second quarter where Oklahoma was not moving the football at all. And obviously that changes, right? Because a team gets better. But, yeah. I just like, I would have preferred to tweet something when i tweet something

and if it is crazy when i tweet it get the reaction immediately i don't like it's in dude it doesn't go away so when the circumstances change time and then it becomes wrong or somebody does something that they weren't doing later that's why you don't tweet in the second quarter. That's why you don't do it. I love tweeting. I love tweeting. But you know what? Listen, listen.

The one thing I have to say, and they are right about, is that you can't say things like can't throw right because that that is a blanket statement that the man can't like is unable to do it and for somebody who was as young in his career and through as well as he did in high school that was an unfair thing to say so like that is uh that's what i think that said i don't feel particularly bad about the premise that i was making which is they moved on from a quarterback that was supposed to be the future after three starts, and yes, very poor starts, to go to a person who through the first half of the Auburn game

was struggling to get a first down, which is when I wrote it. Things got marginally better in the second half, and Oklahoma was fortunate enough that Auburn threw a touchdown pass to their defense. Sooner Magic says, I'm the guy on Twitter who insults Ari. I'm sorry for upsetting you yesterday. I'll try to say nicer things to you. I appreciate you being here.

And thanks for actually coming in and listening to the show. And the thing that bothers me too, Andy, is I don't even sit here in this chair and pretend like I'm always right. I'm a human. I make mistakes. I say things I shouldn't say. And it's like not coming from a hateful place. You know what I mean? And like, I am super excited to watch the Texas game. I don't think I'm crazy for thinking that tech, that Texas is going to win the game. I believe that Texas is one of the three teams in college football that has the best chance to win the national title, and Oklahoma's going through some shit right now. I don't think it's that crazy to think,

but the way that people treat people when they're wrong or if they say something that's wrong is just infuriating to me, especially considering the fact that the circumstances of the tweet are misrepresented two weeks later as if that's what i said after the game was over or that what i said at the time wasn't correct that's all yeah people are mean online just get used to it all my takes are anti-ou oh producer river's doing some math on us if that bomb falls incomplete at auburn his stat line would have been 9 of 15 for 101 yards 6.7 yards per attempt oh really really that's why they yeah but you know what it was a perfect throw it was a perfect

throw it was a perfect throw it was complete and And he gets those as part of his stats. That said, that was the lone play of the entire game of Hawkins as a passer. That was a amazing play or a proficient. And guess what? Ari, 6.7 yards per attempt would still be better than Jackson Arnold on this season. Yeah, yeah. And Jackson Arnold has been bad. So maybe part of the reason why people have, you know, a hard time with me thinking this is that I am too attached to what Jackson Arnold was supposed to be. Which I could own up to. And not just because of the rating, but because of what was sold to us from people in the program.'s the other part i love is when they get mad at us that on three it's like you guys didn't rate the guy correctly you had him rated too low and they're like you

guys had hawkins as a three star we actually did not we had michael hawkins as a four star it was one of those other companies that had another three-star. So if you can't remember who you're actually mad at, maybe don't paint with a broad brush. Hey, Andy, can I ask you just a general question too? Yeah, sure. Because like Sooner Magic here, who was nice enough to come listen to the show and post. Oh, Sooner Magic listens every day.

And I'm happy he's here. But just between you and me, just us girls here, is Oklahoma having a good season? At the moment, they're having an okay season. If they beat Texas, I will say they are overachieving. But would you say that so far with the way that things happen at Tennessee and the way that the game looked for the majority of the Auburn game, that they're happy?

They're having the season I expected them to have right now. It's not a good season for Oklahoma standards. Can we say that so far? I can tell you definitively after the Texas game whether it's going to feel like a good season or not. Andy, so far this season is Oklahoma having a good season. It can change. I'll let Sooner Magic answer the question.

Okay, there he is in the chat says we are sucking ass not happy about it thank you sooner magic so when i am negative about the team it's not okay right because i'm a hater and all my takes are anti-ou and whatever but when you say it it's okay because you're an Oklahoma fan. And that's the thing that – Are you new to this? No, no, I know, but that's – it's like because I didn't go to OU or because I'm not an Oklahoma fan, if I say the thing that you think, I'm a hater, but you think it too.

And it's so – when does it become an observation? Ari, nobody is more critical of their own team than the fans of that team. But why are they upset when other people are critical of it? It's like with my kids. It's like with my kids, okay? My son will say all sorts of terrible things about his sister over and over and over again. But if somebody at school says something bad about her,

they're going to have a problem with him because she's family. You can say whatever you want about family, but somebody outside the family can't say anything about your family. Same thing, same concept. I know. Also, the complete miscategorization of things,

like people who come in and say things that you said that you didn't say, and then also forget the 25 minutes that we spent after the Oklahoma-Tennessee game talking about how awesome their defense played. All that stuff stops to exist. It's just you put something in your brain, you hear one thing, you think one thing, you accuse and insult, and all I'm doing is saying the thing that you probably think. But maybe I can be nicer about it maybe i can soften the language you just can't say it like you're outside the family i'm outside the family i can't say it well if you're looking for uh

somebody who just says nice things only and there's no critical analysis even don't worry there's other shows for that. There's other shows where they will pump so much sunshine up your butt all offseason, all during the season. We're not one of those shows. But also, too, saying something that you think also that turns out to be wrong is also part of what we're doing here, right? You're supposed to put yourself out

there, make predictions. Our job was never supposed to be the prognosticators of the future. And somehow in the last five years, that's what it's become. But that's what we're doing. If we're critical or see something, it doesn't mean that we hate your favorite team or that we go to bed every night plotting with the world that on three to figure out how to hate oklahoma the sooner scoop people are the best people i've ever met in my entire life i love those people like it's just unbelievable um the ari i would want to speak for all of us i hate your favorite team. Despise them. And you know who I love?

Your rival. Greatest team ever. Bunch of angels. Your team, bunch of criminals. Your rival, angels. They're all going to be doctors and lawyers someday. It'd be great. I hate your team.

Ari doesn't hate your team, but I hate your team. We actually do go once a month to Kansas City. Me, Andy, and the people who rank the players at On3, we wear masks with longhorns on it, and we go underneath wearing robes into the basement, and we plot ways to come up with things on the show to hate your favorite team. That's true. Yeah, it's some sort of we yeah it's it's a it's

some sort of illuminati secret level stuff hey and my favorite thing is is on three has a texas site so they're clearly anti-oklahoma we also have an oklahoma site a very good one uh hey you know what you know what i'm gonna do here um have you had this yet? This Oreo thing? I have. I have had the Oreo flavored Coke Zero. This is going to be my first sip of it because I haven't had it before. And I just my wife brought me home one. And I'm very curious. So this is a taste test of Coca-Cola Zero Oreo.

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Use the code Andy, 20% off your first purchase. Ari, how do we feel about the Oreo Coke Zero? You know what? Not for me. That was exactly the feeling I had. My daughter bought some at the gas station the other day. I was like, that's interesting. I took one sip.

I'm like, never again. This isn't true, is it? What's not true? Just that zero sugar drinks cause the same insulin spike. No, it's it's it's it depends on the fake sweetener in use. So true for my insulin spike when I drink diet, Dr. Pepper. I believe so. I believe that is one of the fake sugars that does that.

Stevia is the one that doesn't do that. Andy, Producer River said, and then we're going to go on to the next segment, but I want to get a rant that's not about football, but kind of in the same vein off for a second. And I don't know if it's because I'm not a dog person, but I'm probably going gonna make people upset but river said in the chat he said in the chat when you insult or criticize a football player or team it's like insulting someone's dog um and i gotta say i think dogs are cute i think they're all very cute and like you know having them i'm

assuming if you have one is a joy but everybody has a dog and they're all cute like i can't really there's no distinction between them to me it's like if you have a golden retriever it looks like every other golden retriever that's cute that everyone has yeah this is like your mexican food take just stop you're not gonna not going to win with this one. By the way, there was a Mexican food hive on my side on Twitter last night. People were like, yeah, that guy's on to something.

Even if I'm wrong on that, at least I'm not alone. You know what I mean? There are people out there that think the earth is flat, but there's other people that think that the earth is flat. You're not going to win with your dog take's not going to win with anybody. Cause like, I love my dog. Like I don't, I'm not, I'm not a dogs always win kind of person.

Like I don't like it when people take their dogs on planes because they're such narcissists that they can't get away from them. And I realized there are people who legitimately need a service animal. Yeah. There is that is an emotional support animal. That is not most of the people with dogs on the plane. Most of those people are narcissists who cannot leave their dog. They think they're doing it for their dog, but they're actually doing it for themselves. But no, if you do anything with my dog, we're going to have a problem.

Well, I mean, I'm not doing anything with your dog i think i was nice to your dog um but everybody were very nice to my dog but everyone loved my dog she's adorable i know but i understand some people aren't dog people i just you know if you're not a dog person you're probably not an andy person either so no i'm not i didn't say i wasn't a dog person i'm just saying i know i know i have seen you with your mother-in-law's dog i know you you can tell people really don't like dogs people really don't like dogs like get away immediately like they shrink from even like the cutest little puppy coming at them and those i mean that's that's bizarre but i don't understand the people who see dogs in public and like will seek out the owner of the dog to ask him about the breed, their name, and where they were born.

I don't understand. What information are you looking for here? It's like it's 11 years old. It's a golden retriever, and it had sex with a poodle nine years ago. It's like, I don't like what. It's a cute dog. I don't need to know its origin story. I don't even ask people what their names are.

I don't need to know its origin story. I don't even ask people what their names are. I don't know. I like dogs, and I think that they're cool, but I think the responsibility that comes with owning one outweighs the enjoyment. A poodle and a Bernese Mountain Dog fell in love when they have special feelings for each other. Okay. All right. What emotional attachments do you actually have?

My wife, my kid, and my family that those and gambling and fast food wife kid family gambling and fast food that's i love the way the list just goes completely off the rails it's perfect okay all right we got to talk about opting out because we had some news on that. I have a column up at on three right now about when should you opt out mid season? And I'm going to preface this by saying, preferably never like you are a literate, you are quitting on your team. Let's make no bones about that. If you opt out mid season, you're quitting on your team. You will be known by at least some people as a quitter for the rest of your life so that you have to understand that but we saw it with a couple different people yesterday with

well three three high profile ones yesterday Jaheim Otis the defensive tackle at Alabama Caleb Brown the receiver at Iowa LaShawn Williams, the running back at Iowa. And different situations. These are different situations. So basically, I wrote a breakdown of when you should do this or at least consider it and when you should not consider it. So Ari, the guys at Iowa, both of them, Caleb Brown, for example, started his career as a receiver at Ohio State. Obviously could not climb the depth chart there. Goes to Iowa, has an okay season last year, is not doing much this season, has an arrest. He's transferring.

He's salvaging a year of eligibility. That's why he's leaving now. Like, I get that because based on his performance so far, he's probably not going to play in the NFL. So you try to create as many earning years as you can in college where you can make NIL money. The Jaheim Otis one is confusing to me. Jaheim Otis is in his third year as a college football player. So he has one more year of eligibility to use next year if he wants to use it.

And then he's taking the red shirt so that he can also play in 2026. Jaheim Otis is a 325-pound nose guard who at times has been pretty good. Like he started three games last year for Alabama. He was hurt some of that. So a lot of it wasn't necessarily his fault why he didn't start all last season. But he was not playing as much as he wanted to this season. I don't understand that already. Like if you're a 330 pound defensive tackle who can move, somebody is going to give you a shot in an NFL camp at some point.

So why do you need to worry about playing in 2026? Like if you ball out next year, wherever you go, you're going to the NFL in 2026. You're not going to be playing in college anyway. So why not stick out these next two months? Because what happens if these next two months somebody in front of you got hurt? You came in and balled out. Then you could be in the NFL next year.

Yeah. It is just an interesting thought because we do fully support. I think I speak for both of us here, It is just an interesting thought because we do fully support. I think I speak for both of us here, but we do fully support the player's ability to use this leverage and to use this power when appropriate. Right. But that does not necessarily mean that we support everybody's decision to do it.

It doesn't make it the right choice every time. Not always the right choice. And I do think that people who do it in very early stages of their career are probably making a mistake people who have two or three more years of eligibility anyway um and if you are in a position where you're probably a body type or a caliber of player um who's going to get a shot at the NFL regardless based on upside measurables and traits that quote-unquote quitting on your team when you are playing some could play more could practice better and improve your situation through hard work then while also having the opportunity to

transfer after the year and play another season if you need one seems like an interesting decision to me because you're also like it or not and the thing that you cannot change andy is that if you do this you will have a little bullet point on your resume somewhere that calls you or insinuates that you're quitting right and if you do that you better make damn sure that whatever the gain is especially if you're an nfl future kid is bigger than putting yourself in a position where somebody has the goal to question your character i don't think that everybody who leaves a team or everybody who opts out a bad person or isn't a good teammate i think that sometimes they aren't but i think every time you do it,

you are put into the same bucket of personality, right? And when you do that, you have to wring value out of the move that outweighs being in that bucket. And the thing is, Jaheim Otis, like going somewhere next year, he's going to get a bit of an NIL bag. SEC scout guy says,

maybe they can milk a tad more NIL money from another program. Yeah, they can, but they can't leave for the next program until after this season anyway. So why not play out this season? Let me ask you this. Go ahead. Just mind-melding here. Yeah. But if you are a player who somebody wants to spend money on

if you have two years of eligibility instead of one year of eligibility can you milk more out of the value of that bag will somebody overspend because you have an extra year that's the question but here's the here's the other part of that. And again, this applies to a guy like Jaheim Otis, Bear Alexander, who just left USC. Now Bear Alexander, we're not as surprised by that he's going to his third college because he went to four. He actually, I believe, went to five different high schools. He played for four different high schools. So he's had somebody advising him all along. It's like move, move, move, move. And it's not the story won't end great usually in that situation. But Jaheim Otis is not in that situation.

That wasn't his experience in high school. This is the real money is in the second NFL contract. That's the life-changing money. That's the eight-figure signing bonus. That's where, because honestly, some of these defensive tackles in college are going to make more their last year of college than they make their first year in the NFL, depending on where they get drafted. So I understand that. But if you are playing the longer game, if you want to make the most money, you want to get to the NFL as quickly as possible and get to the second contract as quickly as possible. You don't

extend your college career unless you don't think you're going to make it in the NFL. Yeah. And that's why, like Matthew Sluka, we mentioned him. We talked a lot about him. The guy was at UNLV said they didn't didn't pay him what they were supposed to pay him. So he left after three games. Matthew Sluka is not he would, and he'll go somewhere else next year. Now, the market for him may be slightly depressed since the guy who came in for him, Haj Malik Williams, is better than him. So I don't know. But I'm 100% on board with I'm never playing in the NFL. I'm going to use time that I have left to make a move that's going to maximize my potential.

Well, that's when you should do it. If you're sure you're not going to be an NFL player, but Jaheim Otis should not be sure of that. Jaheim Otis is a 330 pound guy who can move. Like there is a potential future in the NFL for him. So don't depress your first NFL salary and potentially extend the countdown to NFL contract number two. Like if you're trying to make the best financial decision and part, part of it with the Gmail Otis thing was like the, the Pete Thamel tweet storm that, that announced that he was doing this, like had two agents names in it. Like when you have two agents names in your tweet announcing your move, it's like,

okay, you see what's going on here. And it's, it's little, it's little Wayne's agency. And like I said, in the column, if you listen a little Wayne,

you, you, you know, this saying like NIL money's a goon. The second NFL contracts, a goblin, like you want's a goon. The second NFL contract's a goblin. Like, you want to get to that. And if you're Jaheim Otis, that should still be out there for you. And getting to the second NFL contract is an inherently very hard thing to do.

Getting to the NFL is hard enough. Getting that eight-figure second salary signing bonus is only for the elite of the elite. That said, when you are somebody that size who moves like that, your odds of doing that are higher than someone else. Exactly. That's why I'm not killing Caleb Brown or LaShawn Williams or Matthew Sluka because their college careers tell us they're probably not going to be productive NFL players.

But Jaheim Otis could still be. Like, Quinnen Williams is a good example of this. He didn't blow up at Alabama until year three. So if Jaheim Otis goes to another school next season, blows up, he could still be a very high NFL draft pick, but I bet he's lower than he would have been because of, because of this.

Like if he just plays out this season, moves on to another team and then goes, he's going to be a really high NFL draft pick. And nobody has to ask that question like they're gonna ask why were you scared to compete for two more months that's what they're gonna ask now there is a solution here and i'm not blaming like you know how i love to get blame the schools for everything i'm not blaming them for this you know how I love to blame the schools for everything. I'm not blaming them for this one. This is sort of an unintended consequences thing.

Like when they passed the four-game redshirt rule, they were trying to increase depth for teams, especially with opt-outs from bowl games. That's something the coaches wanted. They wanted the four-game redshirt rule to increase their depth. Coaches have also wanted for much longer five years to play five rather than five years to play four if you make it five years to play five and don't have this artificial four game marker in there then you take away that leverage point and i don't think

people would leave a mid-season i think they just play out the year and then they move yeah well and there's nothing to gain from it like when you leave after the four games or play four, you feel like you're getting four games of tape while never expending anything. But if you're expending the year regardless, then you've got nothing to gain from it. Yeah, exactly. I love that every NCAA rule that we have to keep making

is to stop people from not playing. You know, like we think, well, opting out bowls and opting out of seasons and all that stuff. It's like just make rules that make sense financially. Well, they can't because they're not employees and you can't hold them. No, but I'm saying we're going to get to the point where you're just paid for what you do and there are rules in place that – and that's it. Why don't you mention that, Ari?

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That is prize picks. All right, Ari, you mentioned they'll eventually get to a point in college football where they'll just pay for something sensible and reasonable. I think they are headed that way. And a couple things that feels like the steps are being taken now. So the house settlement preliminarily approved by judge Claudia Wilkin yesterday. So what that means is this is the house versus the NCAA case back pay for, uh, athletes that did not get NIL because it was against the rules. So the $2.4 billion in back pay will be spread out among the athletes. And then for the next 10 years, schools will be allowed to pay directly to the players. The number that a school can pay will

start at about $22.5 million a year. That will go up every year. You can also get NIL deals. The issue with this is the schools still want to police the NIL deals. And they say, oh, you can't have a booster make an NIL deal. We're going to invest it. We're going to create this investigative arm. And if it's more than $600, I'm telling you right now, they're not going to be able to pull that off. So they're going to pay the players directly. The players will get more through NIL. The world won't end, but the schools are going to pay the players directly starting next year if this settlement does go all the way through. Yeah, and then I think there's probably going to be less reason, unfortunately, for emergency podcasts, because once things start living in a world of order and reason and rules and restrictions and things that are well within the guidelines of a bargaining agreement

then that's when all the stuff that goes off the rails in the middle of the week on Tuesday October 8th probably aren't going to happen quite as often so maybe you'll start seeing holdouts and stuff I don't know what the next thing is going to be yeah there's always something around the corner there's always uh everything comes back around in the morning. But, like, it is just kind of, I mean, like you said, this is the charm of the sport. It's almost like when they start just treating them like professionals that it's not going to go as haywire as often. But there's a lot of stuff. It still does, though. Like, you have situations.

Like, right now, what's the NFL story everybody's following? It's Devontae Adams. Right. right now what's the nfl story everybody's following it's davante adams right he has a contract and they have a cba but there's still a story there so and hassan reddick is still a story so you'll see something traded which i don't think is ever going to happen in college unless you can trade somebody to someone else's medical school. That'd be cool. That would be amazing. Can you imagine Northwestern traded for a Miami defensive tackle, and then all of a sudden he just gets to have a degree from a better university? Yeah.

The Miami BT is like, wait, I'm in journalism school at Northwestern now? What? I'm going to be a Medill grad? And then he can bring up Medill in conversation at dinner for the rest of his life. Oh, my God. It is amazing. But so one of the reasons the schools want to do this is the ADs are really sick of begging their donors to cover the collective. Because there are times and there hasn't been a massive widespread, like it's not happening everywhere,

but there have been some situations where donors have had to write a check or send a wire transfer to cover payroll for the collective like that week. And disaster has been averted a few times. They don't want to deal with that anymore, right? They want it to be a budget line. Here's what we're paying. And for the most part, that's going to cover what they're paying. There will be some outside deals that make up for some of that, but they're going to use this to cover what they're paying to the players. And I think it should make more sense. Now, there are still plans in place because look, there are going to be lawsuits about this too. It doesn't mean it's going to solve everything.

There are still plans in place to potentially do some other stuff. And one of those came out in public on Tuesday. Ross Dellinger from Yahoo wrote about Project Rudy. You know who Rudy is. It's a group of investors. They're former Disney executives. It's called Smash Capital is the equity group.

They basically want to take the power for conferences, pay them to sell their media rights as one, to work together, and they would have a tiered revenue system, which is the only way you could maybe get the Big Ten and the SEC in on this thing because they'd have to be able to make more.

Otherwise, they're not going to do it. But it also would have a relegation aspect to it. It's very pie in the sky, but it's one of those things. You saw the College Sports Tomorrow group did this last week, Ari, where they had their suggestion. This one's a little more realistic because it acknowledges that the SEC and the Big Ten are going to want to keep that revenue gap that they've already created. But Project Rudy is a hilarious name because it's named after

Daniel Rudy Ruediger, the Notre Dame walk-on who was offsides, who also was indicted by the SEC and not that SEC, but the other SEC for a pump and dump scheme. You've named your project for a fraudster. It's the most terrible thing ever. How inspiring

your story as a college football player was. If you can pump and dump you're gonna pump and dump okay yeah but it is interesting because so chris bevel aqua who's the the tv consultant he's actually involved in that college sports tomorrow group he actually sat me down i want to say it's like 2010 and explained how everything works. And, and the thing that always stuck with me is that he said, is he said,

if the conferences will ever work together to sell their TV rights, they'll be able to make maybe not as much as the NFL, but they'll get a lot closer to the NFL than they are now. And the reason is because they'd be the only ones selling premium college football. Whereas now, if you want premium college football, you can buy some from the SEC or you can buy some from the big 10. It's a different tier, but it's still something people want to watch if you buy it from the big 12 or the ACC. So that's where this comes in, is basically this Project Rudy thing is the private equity people would infuse them with a bunch of capital, which they want a bunch of money now because they don't know how they're going to pay the players.

And they would still get to be the conferences. Now, here's the thing. They would have to work together because this ultimately has a world where when all of the current current media rights deals run out they would all sell it as one so the sec big 10 big 12 acc would all sell their rights as one so you have to get them to work together now we already have the sec and the big 10 working together the acc and the big 12 would love to work together with those two but right now they're they're not in the club so we'll see if that happens, Ari, but it would be interesting because also then you'd have a company,

you'd essentially be creating a company that could then pay the players as employees, which I think most of the people in college sports are coming around on. It's probably going to have to happen. Either the courts are going to force them into it or just from a practical standpoint there's not going to be any other way yeah um that is a really highly complex situation i think that i have mixed feelings about private equity being the engine of college football. Of course. I used to work for a newspaper. I can tell you what they do.

They're going to make money, and they're going to make you run as efficiently as possible, and they do not care if you wind up as a viable business by the end of things, as long as they get their money out of you. Yeah, right. But then on the other hand, getting everybody on the same page playing by the same rules and all making money and everything going justly is a nice warm feeling inside too um a little too perfect you know yeah a little too perfect well i mean it isn't perfect i mean half the sport's gonna get cut out of this thing so like i mean like there is that aspect of it it's perfect. I mean, half the sport's going to get cut out of this thing. There is that aspect

of it. I hate to be the one that has to bring it up because of my reputation as being a person who only cares about big-time programs, but that would suck for a lot of places. And I understand there's a relegation aspect to it, but the second this happens, and I'm not saying this, Project Rudy,

I mean, just in general, because we are going to arrive at a place where there are 50 to 70 college teams that are grouped together and everybody else gets left off to the side like it is going to happen that's going to suck there's a shitty in the chat you'd have to divide the pie by 70 plus instead of 16 18 if you're the sec the big 10 what's the incentive well the incentive in this particular one is they would give you more. So they would keep that revenue gap the same according to them now. And then how you succeed or fail once all that starts playing out, you would then move up or down based on your success on the field. And like in English soccer, like if you get relegated out of the Premier League, someone else gets promoted into the Premier League. So they start making that share of money.

You start making the Champions League share of money. That's the theory behind it. Again, and I understand where Chitty's coming from, and I think Chitty's right. Like if you're the SEC in the Big Ten, you've worked really hard to create this gap. And this was, I was trying to explain to somebody last week with that other one where they basically said, Oh no, the other one was like, here, we're just going to have these, these 80 something schools, and we're going to split it all evenly, but everybody's going to make more than they make now. And that's why the sec and the big 10 are going to be into it. Well, no, they won't be into it because they worked really hard to create this gap and people like power as much as they like

money and the gap is power so i need you to explain something to me like i'm five okay um so you were the one who told me to read the relegation european football book right was that you yeah i haven't read it yet i need to i need to read that because i have no foundational knowledge whatsoever yeah it's about the creation of the premier league and you'll be shocked at how similar it sounds to college football right now so can i ask this question just out of pure ignorance don't judge me because i'm not a soccer person yep yep the thing i don't understand about relegation and the notion of relegation in college football is is that if you go look at the teams that are competing for a

national championship in the current landscape of our sport those are the teams, 99.9%, that earn the most money and spend the most money. The divide in the sport isn't only, well, it's based on conferences, but those conferences bring in more money in television deals, which then get distributed to teams, and they can now have better facilities, hire more robust coaching staffs and recruiting budgets and all those things, and those matriculate into more passion, more results, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. So the thing I don't understand, and I don't know if this is the case

in European football, but are all the soccer teams in Europe who are being relegated down and up, whatever, on the same relative financial playing field or are the teams at the top of the premier league making a hell of a lot more money than the teams that are at the bottom the teams at the top are making a hell of a lot more money like so manchester united is never getting relegated so does manchester united manchester united is ohio state but is manchester united's roster like are they the Yankees? Yes.

And paying them way more so that they can never get relegated? Yes. Because the thing that I think is interesting about relegation is that you're wanting teams who are left out of the picture to still have hope that they can be in the picture. But the reason why they're not in the picture is because they don't make enough money to be in the picture. So how could they get into the picture without the money? And then once they're in the picture is because they don't make enough money to be in the picture. So how could they get into the picture without the money?

And then once they're in the picture, they still don't have the money because they're not getting Big Ten SEC money. And eventually they're just going to get their ass kicked by teams who have better players because they spent more money. I feel like there's a divide there from a financial standpoint. You're only thinking of Alabama and Ohio State and Michigan and Georgia as the SEC and the Big Ten. We also need to consider Indiana and Mississippi State because if you are Utah – But all those teams are in this project.

Yeah, they are. I'm thinking more like TCU and Louisiana. So you're – No, TCU and Louisiana. No, TCU's in this too, sorry. Louisiana's out. I'm trying to think of who would be in and out at the bottom. Who's in and out at the bottom? Well, no, no.

Louisiana. The promotion and relegation would not be happening from the Sun Belt and the American. In Project Rudy, the way the promotion and relegation would work is you're in the SEC Big Ten tier of money or you're in the Big 12 ACC tier of money. And you play your way up into a different tier of money or play your way down into a lower tier of money. But I'll give you an example. For English soccer, have you heard of Nottingham Forest, Luton Town, Burnley, or Sheffield United? Do you know any of those teams? I mean, I've heard of Tottenham because isn't that one of the teams that people wake up for at 6am?

I said Nottingham Forest. No, I've never heard of Nottingham. They had a Sheriff, Robin Hood. It sounds like a brand of jelly to me. Okay. You've heard of Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal. That's your Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia,

USC, Oregon. That's those guys. These guys are your Mississippi State, Indiana, and then at the top of the championship division, like Leicester City, which actually won randomly. Actually, Leicester City is TCU that made the national championship game, basically.

Did they win the national title? And then got relegated. But Leicester City could be promoted. But Leicester City also beat Georgia, right? Didn't they win at the end? They did beat Georgia. So that's where it falls apart a little bit. But that's ideally what they're talking about.

Again. Okay, but relegation is within the 70. We're not talking about relegation from Team 71 coming yeah they're not they're not gonna they're not gonna open it up that much they're just not i don't which makes it way less fascinating really right i don't think they're gonna even do this because i think the big 10 and the sec are gonna protect the gap i think i think that's part of their goal is to protect the gap along with making more money. But this plan here, if it were to come to fruition, is just slicing off the bottom half of the country. They're not playing the same sport anymore.

The Louisiana's, the Liberty's, those types of teams are no longer in the picture at all yes they they would be they would have to decide do we want to be a different division above fcs or do we want to be part of the fcs and would they even play them these teams connor fact checking me and i'm glad you did connor because i i my my english football knowledge is not great. Chelsea almost got relegated like 10 years ago. So it is possible to highly- What, did they have a bad season or what? Yeah. Yeah, real bad.

So that, but that's what we're talking about. So it is not ideal by any stretch. That one, what the Project Rudy thing of the things that have come down the pipe makes the most sense in terms of could it realistically happen but i still don't think you could get and maybe i'm wrong and maybe it'll happen over the next few years but i don't think all these conferences will work together well i mean like i don't want to make this a playoff discussion but if you are a person

who loves the 12 team field because you love the inclusion of everybody the sam cons of the world right then you must hate this right because it okay like if you're an if you love the ncaa basketball tournament you should hate this like the thing that makes the ncaa basketball tournament great would not exist here and it's funny because they they like the power conference been trying to make the ncaa basketball tournament more like what we're talking about where they want some you know sec or big 10 team that was below 500 in conference play to get an at-large bid rather than some low you know smaller conference champion get an automatic bid. So that's...

But I got to go on record here and say that no matter what this looks like at the end of the road, Andy, I hope that the UNLVs and the Louisianas of the world are still somewhat included. I don't want there to be a world where it's completely cut off. I don't either.

I'm not sure it's possible to do what, what's going to have to happen without doing that though. Yeah. That's the part. I just don't know. Scott in the chat says, Andy, the point about money getting control is key here.

This will be why conferences will not work together. Like the pack seven in the mountain West, not merging exactly right. Like hundreds of years of years, or hundreds, more than 100 years of history tells us these people don't work together. Now, maybe they'll prove me wrong, but they have not proven that so far.

They have not played well together so far. But Ari and I always play well together, and we're going to keep playing well. You did upset me earlier, though. You did. How did I upset you? but Ari and I always play well together and we're going to keep playing. Well, let's, you did upset me earlier though. You did. How did I upset you? Because like we're,

we're supposed to be a team and you're on this Oklahoma bandwagon and I'm upset with you about it. Ari, we're a team because the better the show does, the better we do. And when we stoke the fires of Oklahoma fans hating you, it's good for the show. Okay,

good. Okay. You make more money this way. Hey, somebody in the chat earlier, Andy, said that I am the biggest Texas apologist they've ever seen outside of the local media, which is insane because I married an Aggie. Did you see that? I did see that. I just want you to see what's on my desk. There you go. But the oklahoma fans don't that doesn't make him feel any better that's just another conference rival now no i'm not saying that it would make them feel better but like i cannot be the biggest texas apologist that this person has ever seen no you you were at one time

but then you abandoned texas like. I was there when you abandoned Texas. I came back. I came back before last year. Yeah, you came back, but you abandoned them. You left them for dead. It kept embarrassing me every weekend. I'm tired of looking at a three-and-a-half-point Big 12 spread, and Texas is in the game, and then they're losing to Iowa State or TCU.

Is there anybody in the listenership the viewership that that runs a mint we need to get that big 12 coin minted can we get the big 12 official picking coin that has plus three and a half on one side and minus three and a half on the other side minted we're gonna make that happen there's a company that does it you can just do it oh josh says you should have abandoned us during the strong and herman years yeah but like i'm not an apologist of texas i noticed that they have better players than the other teams and then would probably win and make the playoff last year and then they did that and now they have better players than most of the teams that they play and they're probably going to be pretty good again i mean it's like it just it's you know i used to be a notre dame hater now i'm a notre dame lover it's all

cyclical okay let's go to the last thing sorry i got some notes for the rest of the week um i am in a place that's about to get hit by another hurricane. So our Thursday show, well, I may be getting hit by the hurricane when the Thursday show is happening. So we are going to pre-record Dear Andy. I'm just throwing it out there. We're going to pre-record Dear Andy on Wednesday. So please send your questions for Dear Andy and Ari and also for the Dear Andy and Dear Ari mailbag columns. You know how to find us. I'm Andy underscore Staples on Twitter and Instagram. Ari is at Ari Wasserman on Twitter and Instagram.

You can also email me at andystapleson3 at gmail.com. Love your questions. We love your crazy twisted minds. And we would like you to help drive the show. So send us those questions. I've already seen a couple pop in this morning, so happy that everybody's up and thinking, but send those along. I'm going to send out a message to the folks on the West Coast of Florida. Get the hell out. If you haven't already, get the hell out. Just to be safe. Get the hell out like if you haven't already get the hell out like it just just to be safe it's get the hell out that's all there is to it and uh ari let's talk about this tomorrow sounds good well you

know i got some takes to come up with three saucy takes from me yeah wendy's sauciest take of the week it is my turn uh if anybody's got any saucy take suggestions, hit me up. I got a few ideas percolating, though. I got some hot garlic parm percolating right now. I think you should put Michael Hawkins in your Heisman ballot discussion. I think that should be one of your takes. I mean, if he comes out and lights up Texas. Well, here's the thing. If he comes out, lights up Texas.

He's an Oklahomalahoma legend forever no matter what he is the rest of his career yeah so yeah yeah so andy stay safe you you're coming here this weekend your entire family can come with you you can stay with us i love your family he's got the nicest like nicest family ever come on out you're here we'll be good. I think we'll be fine. Goat Dog wants Diego Pavia for Heisman. I'm tempted. Sorely tempted there. I do think that there's a world that he could probably play his way into the discussion, yeah? There absolutely is.

There's no question about it. So, yeah, keep the fiery takes coming. I need some hot honey barbecue, but I need at least one spicy ghost pepper. And we will have our Wendy's Saucy Steak of the Week tomorrow.