Andy & Ari On3 - Paul Finebaum said WHAT about Florida and Billy Napier in 2025?

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

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Welcome to Annie and Ariane 3. You see a very Gator centric thumbnail there because Paul Finebaum, we visited with our friend Paul and holy crap, we're going to get to what Paul said really quickly. We're going to get to the interview with Paul pretty quick because there's a moment where we're talking about Florida and you can literally hear the record scratch in my head when Paul says what he says. Yeah. I was like, what?

I was like, what? And then I, and then I pushed back on it and then he doubled down. So we can't say I didn't mean that. Uh, that's the best part. Oh, it's, it's incredible. And here's the thing. We also talk Alabama, we talk Auburn, we talk a little SEC hoops. He says some pretty crazy stuff about all that too. Yeah.

I mean, actually, I think I planted the most controversial seed in his brain, and I was expecting pushback. I was expecting him to be like, no, that's insane. And he was like, actually, you're probably right. Which means, going into the interview, I think you need to know that the prevailing notion is that SEC football fans have been soft this offseason. So like let's just go into that.

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Gators. We're talking about Crimson Tide, the Auburn Tigers. We're talking about SEC hoops too. But he's gonna say something about the Gators and you're just gonna go, what? We are joined by one of my favorite people, the man who proved you can go from being a newspaper columnist to being rich. Paul Feinbaum. Thank you, uh, Andy. I miss those newspaper days very much. Uh thank you very much. Well, I mean, that's what you know,

there'd be an Auburn coach in trouble. Maybe his pants would show up on the golf course and you know, you you have something to opine about for 800 words but now you get to host debates between Ari Wasserman and Brad for making

so I mean, it's just proof you've actually made it. Need to correct you on something. It's not Ari Wasserman, it's Ari Wazerman. That little red mustache. When I was in college and I was coming out my senior year looking for jobs, I like sent letters and emails to about 500 journalists. Hey, can you give me advice how to do this? I want to be mentored. You know, let's try my best to like get out into the community. After the show, can you stick around and help me on the next part

of my career, which is how to go from journalists to rich? Like, I don't know like what you do. But that you have the blueprint that I think both Andy and I are trying to follow. I didn't want to talk about football. I just want to talk about where you invested. Well, look, I appreciate the kudos, but Andy knows my situation very well because he's recounted it. But it's hard to go wrong when your job is covering Alabama and Auburn for a newspaper and radio during a time when almost everything did go wrong and then it went right with Nick Saban. So I think I got a little bit of a booster shot Andy, would you not agree? I would agree and actually I kind

of want to start there because we'll talk about the SEC and basketball and 17s in the Sweet 16. But let's be honest, this is the South. We talk about football. Who is under more pressure this year? Hugh Freeze or Kalen DeBoer? I think in some ways, it's really Kalen DeBoer because Hugh Freeze, for whatever reason, it's still very well liked by his constituency. And I think he has people believing in him in spite of a fairly underwhelming two years where Kaelin DeBoer, by the way, one more thing, and this is the most important thing, Hugh Freeze succeeded Brian Harson. Do I need to finish the next sentence with K one before?

Okay. That does make sense. Yeah. Uh, yeah. And also to like being, having a good year at Auburn and having a good year at Alabama are two very different things too. Right? Yeah. If you freeze it, one nine games, uh, he'd have a contract extension. K-1 De'Bora won nine games and it's the worst season since 2007. It's a disaster. By the way, he understands that. I give him credit for not trying to act like some coaches. Do you realize what I inherited?

Hugh Freeze has done a very masterful job of painting the picture of what he picked up on from Brian Harson. DeVore knows he can't do that. So what would represent success for Alabama this year, Paul? Hey, uh, playoff, the playoff at the bare minimum would be success. And I can't tell you beyond that because the playoff is a rather quirky adventure as we just found out, but without going to the playoffs, uh, I think he is going to find himself in.

In suffocation, uh, in a world of suffocation because, uh, I mean, he'll survive that schedule, uh, in terms of his job, but not by much. You know, I think it's interesting that you brought that up. And it's like, I think about this a lot because Alabama theoretically could be the same exact team that they were last year and then make the playoff. Like they weren't that far out given how it went. If there were a few teams from other conferences who lose a few extra like if Indiana was not in the Tennessee game, which was close. Yeah, but I'm saying,

but that's the point like making the playoff is not the same thing as showing improvement. Like it just circumstances can change and you can still be the same team. And I think that when people in Tuscaloosa, even with a playoff berth, they were like nine and three solid, but not great, you know, lost in the first round, just see the same team that they saw last year. Or do you think that making the playoff like forgives everything for a year? Well, no, I think it's a bare minimum. I mean, this is the same program I've walked out as you guys have a national championship games under Nick Saban. And it felt like a disastrous

season because they didn't win at all. But Alabama fans are spoiled rotten. And they should be. They've had the greatest run that anybody's had in a very, very long time. So it's understandable. And I just think that the playoff now kind of dumbs down the system. And when you're in the SEC and three teams go and you don't, it feels like a mess. And you're right, Ari. Uh, I don't, I mean, the schedule is probably a little bit trickier than last year, um, in that, uh, I mean, I have no idea what Florida state is. I really don't.

Um, Wisconsin has to be better than last year. Uh, going to Missouri and South Carolina, to me, sounds dangerous. I would agree with that. That's the tricky part. I have so many Alabama fans who come at me saying, oh no, I say it's not all Jalen Milrow's fault. And they're like, no, no, Jalen Milrow was the problem.

And my thing is, well, if he was the problem, you've got two guys on your roster now who are competing for the job, who were there last year, who they could have replaced Jalen Milrow with and they didn't. So are we to expect better quarterback play? And will that make the difference or is it something else? I was in Alabama recently

and the one thing Alabama fans are holding onto that rope with is Ryan Grubb. They are convinced that Ryan Grubb on the third attempt at Alabama, Saban tried to hire him, DeVore did and then lost him three weeks later and now what they finally got him is the key. But I don't think that's really going to solve the quarterback issue. Jalen Milrow was a really good quarterback who made some critical mistakes and became the fall guy. Um, are you telling me that any of these three combatants are better than Jalen Milrow? That's the question. That's that's the part with Ty Simpson and Austin Mack who were there. Maybe Keelan Russell is. He's a freshman, so we don't know. But

that's that's my question to everybody. Who are the worst quarterbacks of the Saban era? Um probably you go back to Blake Sims in uh 14 who got them to the playoff and they actually accomplished less. Jake Coker won a national title and he might be the answer. Yeah, Coker is the worst but national title and he might be the answer. Yeah, Coker is the worst but you know one game in the desert uh absolved him of all sins. But that's the thing that I'm trying trying to get to it's like if Jalen Milrow is the problem Alabama hasn't had the best quarterback on the planet all these years they accomplished less with a quarterback who was probably I mean you could probably say with a straight face that Jalen Milrow is better than Blake Sims and they made it 14 playoff and they'll meet Ohio State that year. Easily. He's better than Coker, but and

He's probably probably if I say this very Softly probably better than Greg McElroy, too. Oh, how dare you? Greg's supposed to come on the show next week. He's on spring break this week. He may not be coming now, but that's okay. That's okay. Can I ask a question and I'm going to do it and I'm going to duck. Was Matt Jones

that good? No. Um but he uh he had the best wide receiver known to man. He also had uh I'm trying to remember. He had Najee. Jaylen Waddle. He had yeah. He had a bunch of great drivers. He's backfield had two Heisman finalists. I mean, I know that's happened before but you know, Devontae Smith and Najee Harris that one year were bad. Yeah. I think that is interesting is that like Jaylen Monroe also had like Ryan Williams who might be the next one in line. Yeah, and I mean like it wasn't like an abject failure.

I don't like the way that we view the season isn't what happened in my opinion. Well, he here the Oklahoma game will never be forgiven. And the Michigan game the scene of him just throwing a terrible pass at the end of that is the final memory. And Alabama fan loves to, they love to remember what's wrong. And he will, he will become the worst quarterback in Alabama history as time marches on. Which is crazy because right now, everybody's trying to gin him up the draft board. So we'll see what happens. But Paul, I want you to settle an argument that Ari and I had on yesterday's show.

Ari thinks that Billy Napier is under the most pressure of all the coaches in the SEC this year. I think it's Brent Venables. Who's right? Going into the season, it's Brent Venables for this reason, because we in the media fall into a lot of trap doors. And the trap door that we have fallen into now is that Billy Napier is safe, there's no issues, there are no problems. And then DJ Lague is the next TiBo. And by the way, Lague may very well be, except the schedule is worse than it was last year.

It's very dangerous, especially early on. But knowing, and I don't need to educate you Andy, you live down there, but I was on a show the other day in Gainesville. I've talked to other friends. Whether they believe it or not, the media that covers that team does not want to address the Billy Napier issue right now. Yeah, it's one of those things where I think it's cut and dried. Like, if they are bad or even mediocre, he's going to be fired. There's no question about it.

Like, everybody knows it. And then it's a question of, okay, are they better? And if they're better how much better so if they're I I've said they don't have to make the playoff if they're nine and three billion apiers probably fine too but if it's the same season as last year or worse yeah he knows what's up it's over at that point I don't know how he sure I mean I say this rhetorically I don't know how he survives that first half of the season I mean, I say this rhetorically, but I don't know how he survived that first half of the season. I mean, you're talking about LSU on the road, Miami, Texas, and A&M, and that's before you get to Georgia. And, you know, I mean, I would pick them to beat Tennessee right now, but that's right

now. You're either, the first half you mentioned, because their games three through four are this. At LSU, at Miami, Texas at home, at Texas A&M. You are either dead coach walking or a national title contender at the end of that. I mean, by the way, not even a big statement to say he should lose all four. Wow. Really? I mean,

well, I think I've been drinking a little Kool-Aid locally here, but I was at the LSU and Ole Miss games. That's not right, Paul. They should lose all four. You mean they should lose to A&M in Miami? I don't know if I would go that far. No, I'm just saying, I'm not, I'm just saying they, they, they, I really don't think that's a big statement to make. Interesting. Interesting. Cause that happens. That'll be a game.

Are they, they're not going to be a dog in that game. And, you know, I guess like, you know, A and M on the road, but other than that, like in terms of the rosters right now, you probably take Florida's over eight ends, right? But listen, uh, I mean, I, you know, who do you want in that coaching matchup? Yeah, but listen, uh I mean I. You know who do you want that coaching matchup? Yeah, I tell you what that Florida LSU game Paul. You talk about fodder for your show and our show the week before and the week after that it doesn't matter who wins.

It is it's Defcon one for whoever loses. I mean, Brian Kelly drops the Clemson game, which not really a stretch to predict. Uh, that's going to be one of the bigger atmosphere, by the way, I want to make it clear. I'm not, I'm not predicting. I'm just, I just said that, uh, Ari, I might go against my, my buddy, Brad from making an amendment. I mean, that maybe they should lose three of the four, but they're

definitely not a favor to, to, to do, do any better than splitting those four games. Yeah. No, that's just a much different thing. Um, Paul, the thing that I think is interesting though, and the reason why I picked Billy is, is that Florida has already overtly expressed a desire to fire. This man, like already done that. Like I know Andy and I agree with you, if they go six and and six and Norman that Brent and Venables would be most likely fired. But the

reason why I think Billy is under the most pressure is is that like, yeah, all things are good. It's sunny in Gainesville. Andy's driving his golf cart around to get pizza in his neighborhood. I get it. But like the second that Florida loses a game next year, their first game, you are right back to where it started. Whereas with Oklahoma, they could lose a game or even two at the beginning of the year. And he still has a chance to coaches. I think Brent Venables is what Billy Napier was last year. And like Billy Napier is, is like now, like either you do it,

there's no excuses or you're gone. And like to me, that's just an unwinnable scenario outside of doing what you are doubting they can do, which is go three and one in that four game stretch at the beginning of the year. And Ari, the thing that you're a hundred percent right about is that last year Napier, how did he survive? He said he exceeded expectations. As Andy told us a couple of weeks ago, Ron Zook would have been fired with that

season, but Billy Napier was heralded as a, as a hero. And I think some of it is the coziness with the AD. He exceeded expectations. He became everybody's favorite pet rock at the end of the year. That won't happen this year if it goes haywire early on. And even if he, let's say he loses three of those four, which I frankly don't think would be bad for him because of the difficulty of the schedule. He's not beating Texas, okay? I don't think he's beating LSU so it

really comes down to can he win at Miami? Yeah. Also Billy Napier probably could be fired by mid-October and I don't think Brenton Venables is getting fired in the middle of the year. So like in terms of like the pressure, like there's a chance that Billy Napier doesn't make it to November, right? I mean, they won't make it to last year. You're talking me into this, Ari. You're talking me into it.

But Paul, let's talk Venables because I actually think Oklahoma's schedule is as bad as Florida's and at the end worse. This is the worst seven game closing stretch I think I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, I tend to agree. I mean, he's got some, he's got a little bit of momentum, but the biggest surprise I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, I tend to agree. I mean, he's got some he's got a little bit of momentum, but the biggest surprise I heard some of this

is anecdotal. But if you if you go back two or three years, and say who's who is who do you consider to be the best athletic director of the country? A lot of people would have said Joe Castiglione. But you knowione, but the basketball hire has not set the world on fire. The hiring of Venables has so far been extremely questionable, and he's losing some of that glow that he has always had. So I think as much as I don't think Joe Castiglione wants to get rid of Venables, he will if he has to, but only if he has to.

And the standard at Oklahoma amazingly has been lowered so much that I think eight or nine wins is enough for him while you and I both know that's not, that's not good enough in Gainesville. And the fruit shall set you free. Okay. You, okay. You might've been right, Ari, you might have been right. I'm willing to, unlike Bradford making, I'm willing to admit every once in a while that

you make a point. Not bad for a Yankee Ari. Your thought process about Billy Napier making it past with a 9-3 season I think is wrong, but you would know better than me. I don't want to push back on that. I'm telling both of you guys, I probably drank the Kool-Aid and I've been probably overly negative about Florida

over the last four or five years. I think Lagway is good enough to pull them up and save everybody. You know, that's where I'm at on that. And I know that you guys just like made a few Brad jokes and I really wanted to ask you this Paul, cause I saw, I was told a few days later after our debate on your show

that you changed your mind on who won. And I was just wondering from your standpoint, how could you possibly choose in a debate between a person and another person, the winner if one of the people in the debate didn't use a single identifiable correct fact. Well, first of all, I don't want to be the bespeckled principal to correct you, but I was not part of the team that declared you the winner.

That was the backroom boys. And I felt Brad exceeded expectations. I graded Brad on the Billy Napier curve. That's what it sounds like. He thought he was going to get torched and then because he kept saying the same thing over and over again in different ways he was good. I thought the mustache line was so good that I gave it to him. And besides, it's no secret, I am for my callers, not some Yankee, heart-thagging, Ohio State loving sports writer.

Little tenor. It's funny because I will give him credit, like going on the show must be intimidating for most people, like going to have a debate on ESPN or SEC. You do this for a living, Ari. He held his ground, but like he didn't make any points. Like there was nothing that he said that was a fire. I need to make this very important point to you though. Yeah. And Andy will start laughing as soon

as I say this. It's the finebob show. It's not substance. It's the sizzle. Can you make? Can you make a lot of noise? Can you? I'll remember that next time. It's it's politics. It's the sizzle. Can you make a lot of noise? Can you? Okay, I'll remember that next time. It's politics, Paul. It's not about the issues. It's about how the candidate makes you feel. Yeah. And that made people feel good.

He did. For Matt's end, he probably won because he made the people in the South feel really good. And that's the point of the show. It's not about to make a bunch of Yankees from Boston feel better about themselves. And I think the fact that you live in Dallas is a negative. It's not even really the south. It's Texas. I guess it's a country now. So Dallas is Dallas. Just like what is the plan? People who live in the actual South always. It's a, it's the country of Dallas. It's true. Paul, I do have to ask you this though, because seven sec teams in the sweet

16 now it's the most ever it's not the highest percentage ever because the ACC got six of seven in as he got seven to 14, but do you take the victory lap? Do you bring Greg Sankey on to take the victory lap? Or do you wait and see what happens and make sure somebody's going to the final four? I think it's significant for this reason. Two games in particular. Saturday, Arkansas versus St. John's. Listen, I mean, I pay a lot of attention to the New York Cowboys.

I don't know why because I just do. But as you know, Rick Pitino and St. John's have been the toast of New York Cowboys. I don't know why because I just do. But as you know, Rick Patino and St. John's have been the toast of New York City, which is the mecca of college basketball. Arkansas, one of the worst teams in the SEC won that one. The second one was so significant. Florida, not your traditional basketball school, although we know they're better than they get credit, beating Yukon. That resonates so much up and down the East Coast. So I think the cost of those two, a lot of the snobs that stick their nose up in the air and don't think the South does play basketball even now, got their comeuppance. Now, having laid all that out, I still believe the SEC needs to win the championship for

this to be the season that we down here have believed it is so far. I think losing to Duke or to anyone else is not going to be enough. You have to eventually win. 2012, the last time the SEC won, is too long ago. not going to be enough to be. I mean, you have to eventually win 2012. Last time the SEC won is too long ago. Uh, I have to ask the handy because I've been thinking about this a lot and I'm, I'm going to maybe have a sound bite for our show too here. Uh, I want to ask you in theory here, Paul, real quick. Do you think if the SEC didn't have a bad football season that

people would be this excited about their their dominance in basketball. So far this year, I'm just I've always just maybe they would I don't know. But like, or do you think that this is like like just hearing you say the SEC needs to win the championship in basketball like why like what because their football teams weren't good last year. Like what are we talking about?

I feel like the SEC celebration of basketball this year is like soft like just wallow in your football failure for the off season. Let's not we're not no one cares about basketball. This is a football show like basketball is not going to mend your broken heart. Brad. Okay, it's it's not am I off on this like are we using basketball with a crutch to help us get through a terrible off season? We are using basketball as a crutch to get through a terrible off season. We are using basketball as a crutch to get through a terrible off season.

That's how it feels to me, the Yankee and Texas. I don't know why, I just think no one cares. I covered Alabama basketball when Wim Sanderson was there in the eighties. And when the football team sucked, they had Bill Curry as the coach, basketball suddenly became important. Now we all know basketball is far more important and I'll spare you the platitudes, the SEC.

Everyone's already talked about that, but it does feel a little bit that if Georgia had won or if Texas had won or Alabama, it doesn't feel like we would be as invested in this as we are. I agree. I agree with you. And it's like, I don't think you would say the SEC has to win it. I don't think that anybody would the SEC has to win it. I don't think that anybody would care if Georgia was the champion. Before I let you go, I have to tap into the spirit of the Fine Bomb Show because I, I think I know where your head's at on this, Paul, but I want to know how psychologically damaging is it to Big Blue Nation if Coach Cal goes farther in this tournament than Kentucky does?

Yeah, it's already been, I think, a colossal disaster for Big Blue Nation because they didn't want Cal to even get in the tournament, let alone get where they are. But winning Sunday for Mark Pope was significant, but there's a lot going on there. And I know Schadenfreude is a big word, but this is boomeranged on them because in mid-January, Cal had no chance of making the field and Kentucky was feeling pretty good. And then he goes up there and wins that game. I haven't looked that far into the bracket because I know it's a virtual impossibility, but I wonder if they could meet in the final four.

I believe in this. It'd be a semi-final if I'm, if I'm not mistaken. Uh, but it would be boy. And like, again, coming as a football person, I don't know, but like coach Cal had all the best recruits and they had great players, but people questioned whether he was a good basketball coach and now he's like taking a place that doesn't traditionally kill it in basketball and is like now on a run,

that shows he's a great coach. Like, isn't that the exact opposite of what they thought about him? Or am I wrong? He still has really good players. Where do they get their players this year? Ari, I hate to be critical of the media, but we tend to come up with the most convenient narrative as opposed to maybe the most substantive.

So, Cal is getting a pass right now. He's already beaten the bank. I mean, this has been his basketball off-season, post-season. All that Tyson Chicken money is paying off. Paul, thank you so much. I can't wait until you are that. You're getting there. You're almost Tyson Chicken level. I don't know if it's all going to your alma mater, University of Tennessee. We'll see but you've inspired us all and thank you. I need and I need a southern gentleman to help me with my with my uh my finances. So, at any moment in time, you're ready to have that call. Just give me a call. Okay.

Let me know after you as soon as you shave that little red mustache or washing. Thank you. That is Paul fine. I'll correct myself. If Arkansas and Kentucky were to play in the NCAA tournament, it would be in the national title game. So that would be incredible national title game. If that were to happen. Now we're talking about Arkansas and Tyson chicken, just so our listeners know, Tyson kills

37 million chickens a week. And they are delicious. They are. Yeah, no, I know. Are you the person on road trips that I talk about how many chickens have to die for me to live? You you do say that and I I do absorb that that information, but it doesn't really change anything for me. So I'm not trying to change anything. I'm just thinking when you think

about how many chickens there are in America or the world that have to die for us to eat, that's a lot of chickens. I got three in my fridge right now. Three full birds? That's pretty electric. Yeah. All right.

All right. We got to talk about what Paul said about Florida because we talked about it with him, but I've had time to marinate on it. I've written a column about it on three like it is. The idea of them losing those four games and I realized that I have been. Probably more positive than most people regarding Florida this offseason. I was probably more negative than most people regarding Florida last offseason.

I think they're going to be pretty good. Do I think they're going to be pretty good. Do I think they're going to go for it? Oh, in that stretch we talked about? No. But do I think they're gonna go oh, and four? I also don't think that like the absolute nests of Paul's proclamation shook me up a little bit Ari. And it's not I look, I pause wrong just as often as I am about this stuff. But it may I'm not sure what the question shook me up a little bit Ari and it's not look I pause wrong just

as often as I am about this stuff but. It may think of this whole year wait what you're not saying though that's important. It's not I don't think Paul predicted that they will lose four games I think he's saying at this moment right now

that Florida should lose those four, which is a completely different statement and that I disagree with. Like do you believe that Florida as we understand it right now should be perceived as an underdog in those games? And I think that I don't think I don't think Florida will be underdogs in all four of those games. I think Florida will be an underdog in the Texas game for sure. I think this is gonna be the national championship favorite. Yeah, depending on what happens the first couple of weeks of the season, Florida could be favored in the other three. We have no idea at this point. Yeah, so like that like the thing is that's more

important than trying to project how a team is going to do during a four game stretch and and I said this to you after the show, but like there's no guarantee that A&M is gonna be good or Georgia is gonna be good. Like you're, we're trying to come up with hard schedules and stuff and it's very difficult because a lot of that has to do with reputation and what we think is on the roster

and not so much whether or not the team turns out to be functionally good. There could be pockets on that schedule right now that look impossible that ended up turning out to be pretty easy. And like to me, how you view Florida, I think we need to frame like what the reasonable expectations are like we know that Billy Napier needs to go win 10 games probably to keep his job.

But that's a fact, right? But like, no, I think he can, he can go nine and three and still keep his job and change what I was going to say from 10 to 9. I don't think eight and four though. But we know that Billy Napier has to perform to some degree. I don't know, me and you disagree on what it has to look like. Nine and three. They have to be better than they were last year, for sure.

What, so like that is separate though, from what do you think Florida actually is, and is going nine and three next year going to be beating the odds because that's what Paul saying you think that Florida actually not going eight and four and being better than that being better than last year is is more likely or less likely than just the norm like that's that's the discussion. I, I, it probably is beating the odds. I don't think those odds are that long though. I think there's, there's probably like a 45% chance that they can do that. But Florida's total for the year is seven and a half. Right.

So it would be for Billy Napier to keep his job, he would have to greatly exceed the expectation in Vegas right now. Which he did last year. Yeah, and like that's the thing though. So like I feel like what he is and what he's supposed to do are very different things. And like Paul saying, they should go 0 and 4, I disagree with pretty sternly. But at the same time, I'm having a hard time, you know, having a real projection or coming up with a realistic projection for what Florida actually is.

Cause a lot of it's like, let's hear what Paul said again. Let's, let's play it one more time. Games three through four are this at LSU at Miami, Texas at home at Texas A&M, you are either dead coach walking or a national title contender. At the end of that. I mean, by the way, not even a big statement to say he should lose all four. Wow. Really? I think I've been drinking a little Kool-Aid locally here, but I was at the LSU in Ole Miss games. No, that's not right, Paul. They should lose all four. You mean they should lose to A&M in Miami? I don at the LSU in Ole Miss games.

That's not right, Paul. They should lose all four. You mean they should lose to A&M and Miami? I don't know if I would go that far. No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying they, I really don't

think that's a big statement to me. So. I think it's a pretty big statement. Yeah. And I think that what he's trying to say is that he doesn't have high expectations for Florida. Okay, exactly. Exactly. That's what it is. So the question is,

because we both do. And then a lot of this gets caught up though, with quarterback hype. I think both you and I are enamored with DJ Lagway. Yes. It's confusing to me when people aren't. Because, With DJ Lagway. It's confusing to me when people aren't. Because, you know, like to me, watching what he did last year from a physical standpoint is legitimate proof that he has a very high ceiling. Will he reach it? I guess we don't know. But I'm wondering, from a roster standpoint,

from top to bottom, if the SEC is the same exact conference that it was last year. Is Florida a top four team in the SEC from your understanding from top to bottom? They can be. They can be, but look OK decision making has to has to happen too like things some decisions were made in the Tennessee game. That are the difference between Florida being a 7-5 and 8-4 team last year. So that's got to improve. What I think Paul's statement did for me, because I came back around and said, you know what, you may be right. Billy Napier may be under more pressure.

I think the way I was looking at it was that because Billy Napier had survived last season at it was that because Billy Napier had survived last season and survived, essentially being fired. I mean, let's be real here. He was done after the Texas A&M game. I think I was looking at it like, okay, he knows he thinks he's playing with house money. He's not worried about any of this anymore. He's already done this. He's already been through it. So he's not going to feel the pressure. The more I think about it, I'm like now he probably is going to feel the pressure like he

still has to win these games. They're still very hard. It's still a very hard schedule and. Having lived through it probably doesn't help as much as I think it does, so I think that's where I'm at on this now is fear the thing. You know if you go to the thing. You know, if you

go to the doctor and you're in, you're afraid of a bad prognosis because you're, you have a family history that getting a clear bill of health that day doesn't alleviate you from the, from the anxiety and fear that that could come again in the future. So like, I just, I feel like, you know, if your number one fear in life is failing And you have to look that in the eye if you knew he survived you still have to do it again And the reason why and I think that the point that got you over the top is is that there's a realistic chance that Billy Napier Couldn't make it through the season let alone. You know getting to November Yeah, like you know like I think like that is like going into a year or two where you have no Like last year he was given the benefit of

the doubt and he was allowed to navigate a bad season and they actually turned it into a positive ending. I don't think this year he's going to have the ability to stay on. Yeah, I think if they're five and one coming out of that stretch, if they finished the first half of the season five and one, there's a really good chance they're making the playoff. There's really a chance that they are exactly what he's been promising all along. If they are three and three coming out of that stretch, it's

probably not gonna end well. Yeah, I mean, if there's five and one, that means that they have victories over Miami, LSU, and A&M probably. Cuz I think it's okay. Probably not Texas, but yeah. Although Texas at home, you never know. It could be a good game. And four and two coming out of that stretch still gives you a chance.

Now you've got it. You probably got to beat Georgia if you want to make college football playoff, but you got a chance. Yeah, but what if by the time of the season, Georgia is also four and two. Like, I mean, like that's also possible. So like, I think that that like looking at the schedule,

the last four games, I think they could conceivably win all of those, right? So like at the end of the year, if you're able to get through the first half of the season and you're in four and two land, then you have a chance to have a really special season still. That said, they're gonna have to win some tough games that they might be underdogs in

or might be a two point favorite in, you're going to have to coach well. You're going to have to have your team prepared. And as you said earlier on in the show, you're going to have to make the correct decisions and critical moments in those games. And maybe, you know, house money, or having lived through those types of things will already give him like the, the calm, maybe learning. I mean, cause he's still a relatively young coach at this level, right? Like,

it's not like he's, you know, I think you got to work through some of this stuff. I mean, because he's still a relatively young coach at this level, right? Like, it's not like, you know, I think you got to work through some of this stuff. So like, you know, I don't know. But like, the thing that I think we need to program our brains are is like, what, like, you're like, he, when he said those things, you're like, I think I've been drinking the Florida Kool-Aid. I mean, I can read that. Like sentiment on Florida as a football program is pretty down, like across the board.

It's still overwhelmingly negative and that's where I realized that that I'm a little off and I was the exact opposite last year. But you also let you have to acknowledge too that you live in the community. You see people all the time that like ask you about it and they're in a good mood. So you're going to be in a good mood. Like I'm sure that impacts you. No, locally they were in a good mood last year and I was telling everybody, like everybody's getting mad at me last year around here.

Yeah. Cause they're like, well, they're gonna be better. I'm like, how are they gonna be better? Give me names, like explain to me how they're gonna be better. And then I'm feeling pretty self satisfied after they lose to Miami and A&M. Like, hey, I told you so.

Yeah, I actually think too that like, we talk a lot about DJ Lagway and we talk about his development and his ceiling, but like they've got some freshmen receivers are gonna need some production out of their lines are gonna have to play as well as they did at the second half of the season. Correct.

And they're gonna have to show that they made the correct decisions in terms of the transfer portal on the D line. And I'm not talking about who they took because they didn't really have to take anybody. They were stacked at the edge rusher position and they had to let some of those guys go because they couldn't afford to keep them all. And so like TJ Searcy is at Texas A&M, Jack Pibern is at LSU. The thought is that they kept the ones they wanted to keep,

but you still have to make the correct choices on those because the players they lost are decent players too. So we'll see how those do. And like, if Jack Pyburn has three sacks for LSU, you know what it's gonna sound like. Like, and LSU wins that game, you know what that's gonna sound like. So.

I mean, that's like the interesting thing about the transfer portal in general is like just like the highest stake transfers because they don't just go to like the pack 12 anymore. Like you know like a lot of times they're on your schedule on multiple stops and you're going to have to face them and you're going to have to come out on top. It kind of reminds me of the Cal, you know, conversation we had with Paul at the end there, of like, you know, breaking up with your, with your, you know, former partner and then having to see them all the time, which is terrible. So, yeah.

Yeah, no, I'm excited about the season though. And I am drinking, I think we both said that we would take the team win total over, right? Oh yeah. I feel like we're, so. But if they go 0-4, like Paul said, in that stretch, it's going to get that. I hit that.

They're not going over it. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's really, it's really fascinating. And so, but I think I want to say Andy, their season started on such a low point. Like that was such a terrible way to start the season. I wonder too, like what the way that Billy Napier's team gained momentum last year, if like starting the season with a few gimmies, just to like work some kinks

out and to kind of get a bearings for who you are and stuff is going to be a good thing for this team. Like being two and O going into LSU rather than having to play them in the opener, the way they had to play a really good Miami team in the opener last year, I think might be good for them. It just sucks that they're going to have to go to Death Valley in Miami back to back weeks. But, you know, you want DJ Lagway to see some throws go through some defenders' hands and into the into the end zone and into his hands. You want to feel his confidence. He wants to feel healthy, like all these things that are important to Florida's growth, especially

considering the fact that we've seen what they look like when they start getting confident. But gaining some confidence earlier in the year, I think might be a nice little bonus for them that they didn't have the ability to have last year. Agreed, agreed. Now let's let's flip this a little bit because I think we talked about them going to Death Valley and then going to Miami. LSU and Miami are in similar situations here, where they've gotta show that they can take this next step.

And I think both of those games are gonna be, what we talked about with Florida Miami last year, like it does not matter who wins, the opposing fan base is gonna completely melt down and freak out. The losing fan base in both of those games is going to freak out whether it's Florida versus LSU or LSU whether it's Miami or Florida. LSU we talked about this we did a whole show on this like what represents success at LSU. I think they're in the same boat as Florida now it's not show on this, like what represents success at LSU. I think they're in the same boat as Florida. Now, it's not this or firing Brian Kelly. Like they're not firing Brian Kelly. His seasons have been too

good. They would owe him too much money. Like I don't think they're firing Brian Kelly, at least not for, you know, football reasons. So if there was something else, that's, that's different, but that's right now, looking at it, he has had too good of a tenure there already, even if it's not satisfactory to LSU. But if they were to lose to Clemson and then lose to Florida, that's a just dire situation down there.

It's dire. Especially because the Florida games at home. Yeah, and like the thing too, you know, LSU, I think they did a really good job on the portal and I was talking to Cody Blair and he was saying he anticipates that LSU is going to be awesome this year. And I'm excited to see that and you know, I think that LSU being awesome is always fun for college football. The one that, you know, it sticks out in my brain

with Florida schedule is like last year after they lost to Miami. Do you remember Mario Cristobal, you know, bang the podium and said, Oh yeah, in the state can see the trajectory of the programs in the state, right? Or whatever he said. Correct. Here's my feeling on it. In terms of trajectory right now, like my anticipation is that Florida will be better than last year, that Miami will be considerably worse.

Like in terms of trajectory, like that was a really nice win for them and they were really good. But like I don't think Miami is going to be that good this year. Like I was really high on Miami. That's the question. And Miami doesn't have a really great. Set up for this because they've got to play Notre Dame right out of the gate. And I mean, that's a hard game.

I have lost their basically their entire offensive firepower like and I know that like you know, Cam War doesn't just you know, fall out of the sky and you know, I know Carson Beck came in, but like I've never been that high on Carson Beck and like I feel like Carson Beck needs players to lift him up and they lost their running back. Like they lost some some guys so they have a really good offensive lineman. I think they're excited about the young receivers though. It sounds like they're pretty excited about about those young guys. So like I don't know that they're going to be a team that scores 50 a game like they did last year. And if they're not as good or dominant and I think they probably would even have the advantage maybe with Florida in the trenches Although I thought Florida's defensive line played really well down the stretch of last year

Like that to me like Miami doesn't scare me the way it did last year now It's on the road, but I don't even know what that means. I'm sure half the stadium will be Florida fans Anyway, the LSD game is in my opinion, and I know that this is an in-state rivalry too, and those in-state rivalries in Florida mean a lot, but... No, the LSU game is much bigger because it's an SEC game. Four games of the year, I think, would be that LSU game, and you're going on the road too, which is tough. But Miami, I think, is a very fascinating team to, to discuss. And we probably should have a Miami episode at some point because, you know,

looking at like Mario crystal ball and what you thought this was going to be. We always talk about where is the team in year four and five, like in year three, it was really good last year, but it was, I mean, it kind of reminded me of USC two years ago, um, this, they lost a ton of players. And I want to go on like a little mini Xavier Restrepo rant. I'm going to call after this, a NFL agent, I mean, sorry, an NFL scout that I know, and just talk through like what running like

that terrible flip 40 does. Let's have the Xavier Restrepo conversation. Miami fans, I'm sorry if you're mad at Ari for what he just said. He's gonna make up for it now because I saw that yesterday and the best tweet I saw off of Xavier Restrepo's 40 time was some guy, just in quotation marks goes,

I can't believe a six rounder could do this. NFL media in October. Like, I don't care what Xavier Restrepo ran yesterday. Do not care. He's a great football player. He's going to catch passes in the NFL. He's going to be a productive

receiver in the NFL. Just go watch and play football. Yeah, the question that I have about it, because I want to write about this after the show. I'm interested in this because I love the March breakdown of the NFL draft. Xavier Restrepo is 5'10", 209 pounds and he ran a 4.8340. Okay, for context, offensive tackle Tristan Wirfs ran a 4'85 and he is 320 pounds and 6 foot 5. So if he's running like a. Kind of exact same 40 time as an offensive lineman,

like why would he even run like? Why would you run to begin with? That's what I don't understand. Don't don't run at all. So Jordan Davis Jordan Davis ran a 478 at 341 pounds, by the way. Yeah, and by the way, if you ever want to like if you're a parent out there who wants to know if your kid is going to play power five, like probably not.

Is that like people like are not people like that's not. You know, I've had discussions with my friends at times in the past about whether or not they believe aliens are amongst us. And I know that we use the word alien to describe athletes, but when you actually think about the inventions that we've come up with, you have to think on a plane that is so beyond, I mean like listen I'm struggling hanging curtains up here and now we can like FaceTime people in the Middle East and just talk to them on the phone. Like when you think about all that coming from the earth like these people who have who like have helped these inventions can't be working with a human brain. Right. Like there's got to be like aliens amongst us. Right? There are people who are super powered in many different ways.

So you're saying that, you know, mentally super powered and obviously in what we do. Tesla was not a human being, right? Probably not. But he probably was with a superior brain function. And Yannis Antoni Koumpo has superior physical function to almost every other human being on the planet. Yeah, I wonder like if superior brain function is like a fun way of saying that person's not from earth

and he just looks like us. I don't know. It's like a 340 pound D tackle running a 4740. It's the brain version of that. Like even, you know, like in the movie, Good Will Hunting, when he solves the equation on the chalkboard, it's like, yeah, okay, those people know how to solve math problems really in a way that the human brain can't. They're like, normally can't. They're human calculators. But when you

think about the actual depth it takes to invent the fax machine or the light bulb or anything, and you're just using things that you found on the ground, that is a level of thinking that you cannot comprehend. And then there's the physical manifestation of. Like that is like a level of thinking that you cannot comprehend. And then there's the physical manifestation of that, which is like Tristan Orff's, you know? And like that to me is- But the thing is like, you don't have to be, you do, and this is the question with Xavier Estrepo.

The NFL has guys that are outliers, that don't run fast. Like Jarvis Landry ran in the four sevens and was a good NFL receiver. But the fact that we remember that is because he's kind of the only one who did. And. That's good to know. I didn't know that.

I'm gonna write that down. The question, now I think Landry was hurt when he ran it too. Oh, well, he used everything. The question though is, is there a threshold? Like, will Xavier Strepo get to the NFL and the corners are so fast compared to what he played in college? Whatever he did to get himself open. I looked at his short shuttle time and it was an average shorter shuttle time. And I'm telling you right now for a guy who isn't a, an outside

wide receiver, who's going to play in the slot, you don't have to be the most blazing fast person. You have to change direction quickly. If you can change direction quickly. That gets you open the jobs to get open so. I am very confident and I think there's going to be at least one or two NFL GM's are like great. Now I can get Xavier Strepo in 6 round. And that's going to be a steal for me because the the tape is immaculate. The tape is incredible because it's not like he was working with the vast.

Speed advantage in college. He was probably slower than everybody on the field in college too, and he was right. He was playing its guys who are going to play in the NFL in college and cooking them cooking them, and he had one year with Cam Ward. He was very productive no matter who was playing

quarterback with him like the guys awesome. So I do not care what Xavier strepo ran don't care Did they do this to DK Metcalf to didn't he run like a shuttle time that was like Tom Brady ish Yes, yes They make fun of like it's along as DK's running a straight line as long as he doesn't DK Metcalf turned into a very good NFL receiver now as long as he doesn't. DK Metcalf turned into a very good NFL receiver. Now, DK Metcalf had an elite 40 time. The thing is, we love the 40 time.

We don't notice the change of direction times as much unless they're really bad. Like, I'll give you one, Hunter Renfro had a fairly below average 40 time, had an elite three cone drill, elite change of direction speed. And I remember talking to guys who played at Clemson with Hunter Renfro, DBs who had to cover him every day elite three cone drill, elite change of direction speed. And I remember talking to guys who played at Clemson

with Hunter Renfro, DBS who had to cover him every day in practice, and they said, even when Hunter Renfro was like 140 pound walk on, it didn't matter. You could not cover him because he would stick his foot in the ground and change directions. And no matter how fast you were and how much faster you were than him, he was getting that split second on you and he was open. The question that I have seen that

the NFL to Renfro is a good NFL receiver. It's like the context of a 40 time difference because the the 40 time a good speed is in the four threes right in a terrible speeds in the four sevens. But on a football field, if you have two yards of cushion, is the person going to catch you if you're if you're two yards ahead? Like what's the like how does it actually physically manifest on a football field? Right. And the way you get open, yes, Tyreek Hill can outrun most

people and get open on a goal route, but most people can't. Most NFL receivers to get open have to do something precise with their route running. They have to be able to change direction very quickly, they have to do it very precisely. It has to be in time with the quarterback. And these are all things that Xavier Strepo does precisely, it has to be in time with the quarterback. And these are all things that Xavier Strepo does very, very well. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I just think that like, we get so bogged down on it's like, I don't care. I don't care what he ran. And I don't know if that's wrong. I think the NFL people would say, we have upper boundaries. We have upper limits. And that's where they're gonna come in on this one.

And maybe they're right. We'll see. But I would happily, like if you let him drop to the fifth or sixth round and I was a GM, I would happily take him and I would feel very confident that he's gonna be a productive NFL receiver. Because he just take him

so the Titans can get him later on. Oh my God, how how? Cause Kim Ward's gonna be a Titan. So like how happy would Kim Ward be? I have a buddy. Xavier Streffel shows up day one and and a huge Titans fan and I'm hoping for him.

I I think I think you'd be a lot of fun. I. I've. I'm to the point where I think it's obvious who the number one pick in the draft is now. Like I don't think there's any question. It's cam Ward. Yeah, didn't like the Titans send their entire organization to watch him work out yesterday. Well, yeah, but they'll probably do the same thing for Chidor. Secretary went to like the security people from the

football building went like I think the entire like everyone was there. I don't know. I'm sure they will too, but. to like the security people from the football building went like I think the entire like everyone was there I don't know I'm sure they will too but um yeah I think that like Cam Ward is going to be a Titan right like is that a fair I think so I and we're going to do a lot more NFL draft stuff here in the next few weeks because we've got well we've got some surprises for you but also I just think it's fun to talk about. I think it's fun to look at look at the guys leaving college through the lens of the NFL and say, hey, maybe we looked at this guy wrong. I'm going on on Kevin Clark's show, This is Football this week, and that's more of

an NFL show. And he's going to ask me about a bunch of draft stuff. So I think it's a it's a fun conversation to have. And stuff like this, like as soon as I saw Restrepo's 40 time RE, I was like, oh, this is gonna be a college people versus NFL people shouting match. Yeah, I just like, I always have thought that people don't watch tape.

Or that they do watch tape, but they don't, they don't, I think that like, shouldn't it be 70% tape, 30% testing. And sometimes I feel like it's 70%. I think it should be 90% tape. Are you good at football or not? Well, okay. If you play in a, in a, in a good conference and you play against good competition, which Restrepo qualifies, like if you, yeah, if you're coming from the FCS or, or you're coming from the group of five, then it's a, it's a bigger question. Like Khalil Mack was you're coming from the FCS or you're coming from the Group of Five, then it's a bigger question.

Khalil Mack was obvious, even coming from the Group of Five, because every time he played against a Power Five team, he dominated. Ohio State didn't know what to do with him. Tennessee didn't know what to do with him. Everybody knows, okay, Khalil Mack's really good. But when you played in a big conference and you played good competition week to week and you dominated it, I don't really have any issues. Now there are still guys that do that that get to the NFL and are not

good. So I could be wrong on a strepo, but I feel very Oh, he's gone. He's gone River. Can I ask you a question now that you're up here? What do you think my actual 40 time would be like? Do you think it'd be like an 8 second? Like I'm trying to like figure out like what like how much faster he is than like a normal person.

There he is. I had the technical issue today. I don't know what happened. It just boom, gone. But I- You're 40 times- By the way, two things. One, it's been a, I'm on a longer streak of no technical difficulties than Andy,

but I want that on record. That's true. And then two, like, what do you think my actual 40 time would be, Andy, if like you, if you like did it? And I'm not, and don't do, we time would be, Andy, if you did it? And don't do, we're gonna taste it. I'm not doing it because I'm not tearing my hands right over. Damn it.

I mean, I know mine would be slow. Mine would be in the fives. I read a stat where, that's not slow, that's a pretty strong, if you sprinted. But I read a stat that like 97% of humans like will never sprint again after their childhood Like for the rest of their lives true guys. That is true. You're out sprinted. When's the last time you fool us? yesterday in a Peloton workout Nice. I mean I've been to these fitness classes where you have to like run Like you do a lift and then you run to the end of something and back like there's running involved, but I've never like full out like sprinted like a dog was chasing me or something.

Yeah, no, I think probably seven seconds. I'd agree. I'd say you sub your sub eight sub eight seconds. I think you get the sixes. 40 yards is not that far. Like if I like did like a fast jog, what do you think the time would be? A fast jog on a 40 yard dash, probably like eight something.

Yeah, that's also the square root of 69. Nice. Think about that. Nice. Yes, it is between eight and nine, so that's true. But this is a bad at math podcast. I'm amazed we both got that joke. There's a verbal pun in there,

but I'll let you break that down after the show. I know, I know, I know. I'm there. I'm trying to keep us out of the gutter, Ari. Before we go, I wanna talk about something that happened yesterday. You're not following Joe Tipton from On3 and his college basketball transfer portal work. I mean, you're not doing it right. Joe's the man.

And so there's a guy who he now he said he was entering the portal a while back but Joe had massive update on him yesterday with all the schools that were interested huge list of schools that were interested in this guy. Valparaiso guard all right. First name all, ALL, last name WRIGHT. All is actually his middle or one of his two middle names but it is on his birth certificate. So All Right, now I went down a little rabbit hole after this. All Right has a brother, Ari, who also plays college basketball. His name is always right and he plays for Rhode Island. His name is always right.

Ari. I just. This is one of the most amazing sports names I've ever seen, and unfortunately when the poor guy gets married, he has to change his last name. Yeah, I never understood the parents who are like, yeah, I'm gonna make my son's name a pun. Well, his dad's name is Joe. He played basketball at Kansas State.

Yeah, well, I've never wondered why they would do that to them. Well, I think that's, isn't that why I wondered why they would do that to them. Well, I think that's, isn't that why Equinemius and Amon Ra and Osiris St. Brown's father named them, because he had a fairly common name and he so he changed the family last name was Brown. He changed it to St. Brown and then gave them.

He changed it to St. Brown? Yeah. That's electric. Equinemius. gave them. He changed it to St. Brown? Yeah. That's electric. Equinemius. One more thing before we go. You know that Oman Ra means the sun god? He's on my fantasy team. Or as I yell the sun god. I do that. I do know that. Osiris is also an Egyptian god. That's electric. Equinemius is I think a little more made up. But one more thing before we go. We obviously talked a lot about what Equinemius is I think a little more made up but. One more thing before we go.

We obviously talked a lot about what Paul Finebombs said about Billy Napier. Billy Napier is unbothered. What was Billy Napier doing on on Monday night? He was at Florida softball Stadium hit bombs. Let it boom. Is that a baseball or softball? That is the softball stadium. That's definitely not the baseball stadium. Well, baseball infield, not all dirt.

Did he wreck that thing? Huh? Yeah, he did. That's still, it's out on a rope. It's still going up when it crossed the fence. I don't believe that you're done. Kid, Paul Finebob thinks. I don't think that I could ever hit Paul Finebob thinks I don't think that I could ever hit a home run.

Out of the softball stadium, I think you probably could. I was in a softball league when I was in the best shape of my life when I was like 27 years old and it was a bunch of sports writers and I don't think I gotta hit the entire year. Ari, I didn't even reach base

and I was in great shape. We're gonna have to have the the the on three combine. Yeah, I know. I mean maybe maybe in the JD's gonna cook us in everything. You know that right? Yeah, that's okay. I mean like I did the one thing that I never thought I would do on camera which is bench 225 with you. Like I did that right? So like Well we lost the video cause the microphone didn't work, but-

They never showed the video? We never showed them? We never showed the video. It's there somewhere. We'll find it. We'll find it. Who needs audio? Just play like some like awesome song behind it.

Make me look bad ass. Like it's like an east town. We'll play some Creed. We'll play some arms wide open. With arms wide open. So yes. what is that? Because that's the Instagram post is, only 2% of the population convince for us 225.

That's true. I don't know how true that is, but. I'm gonna lose. I'm an athlete, yeah. That's right, that's right. Ari, we're gonna have a bet at some point and you're gonna have to run a 40 if you lose it That's right. That's right. Ari. We're going to have a bet at some point and you're going to have to run a 40 if you lose it, because now you're just getting the order though. I would care my like hamstring. Like I don't

think that like I could sufficiently stretch enough to not have these these hit workouts you're doing now where they when they make you run just progressively go a little faster each time and you'll be up to a sprint in no time. Yeah, I just yeah like I just the one thing I will say and I think I'm going to take up golf this summer because I want to have an activity out right is that like as you get to an older age if you haven't exerted a muscle the way that you would need to

to sprint there's a high likelihood that you will become injured and I'm not going to be the asshole who blows his Achilles playing pickleball. Like, I'm just not going to do it. So like, I don't know what needs to be done in order to stop that. But like, you know, these people who are like, I'm in a walking boot.

Yeah, what happened? I tripped on my porch. It's like that, if that happens, that happens. But it's not going to be like I was playing flag football and I tore my rotator cuff and I've got to be out you know six weeks from being a dad you know like I don't know maybe that's the wrong way to look at it but like I have a friend who quit playing hockey he was in a hockey league and I was like why are you not playing hockey anymore he goes because I'm not interested in tearing my ACL

as a middle-aged man like and I was like that's the most thing you've ever said, yeah. I think we need to get you in a softball league. I feel like you'd be a very good rec softball player. I was always the pitcher because I would talk trash while pitching and it always got in people's heads. Yeah, yeah, you're the ultimate vibes guy. Yeah, I'm the blue guy of the group, yeah. All right, everybody. Sched scheduled to be joined tomorrow by Seth Davis of CBS. It's a little sweet 16 preview because these matchups are freaking awesome in the sweet

16. That's that's when you get a chalky first weekend, which we got. You do tend to get some bangers in Sweet 16. Set the whole break him down and I'm going to tell you this on the show when we do this, but the day I met my wife. Was the day I met Seth Davis for him

to help me pitch me to go to the athletic. It was the same. Had two celebrities at once. That's incredible. I met Seth Davis in the morning, and then that night I met my wife. He's good luck for you. We're gonna give you some setting.

We'll talk to you tomorrow.