Andy & Ari On3 - Texas beats Texas A&M | What it means for the Longhorns, Aggies, Georgia and Ole Miss

Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to an instant reaction edition of Andy and Orion 3, presented by BetMGM. We are live at the MGM brand Detroit in the sports book. We watched some guy yell two Heismans for Arch Manning when he ran for that touchdown. And you know what? I think that's on the Texas fan field night. I was kind of right. Maybe one for Arch and one for Colin Simmons. I was kind of right.

Starting point is 00:00:24 Kind of right about what? Heisman stuff. No, I'm kidding. Okay. Andy, nine different directions. going. I'm going to let you steer the ship here. Where do you want to start? Well, let's just start with how big this is for Texas. You took something away from Aggie. You're not taking away their playoff appearance, but you did take away their first chance

Starting point is 00:00:41 to go to the SEC championship game. You still can claim ownership of the state, unless you lose to Texas Tech in the playoff, I guess. But we don't know if Texas is going to get the play of the playoff. I guess that's the question we should ask. Does Texas now reinsert itself in the playoff conversation? Yeah, I mean, I guess we can start the conversation. now, why did Texas play Ohio State if that game's going to keep them out? You know, that's going to be what we hear. Can I ask another question, though? Can I ask another one?

Starting point is 00:01:08 Why did Texas lose to Florida? I mean, that's the rebuttal. And that's the only rebuttal because I'm with you. And you told me this. When Texas started to cook a little bit, you said, I'm going to ask you on the show, why did Texas play Ohio State? And I do not want the playoff committee to punish teams for scheduling difficult out-of-conference games.

Starting point is 00:01:28 I don't. The problem for Texas is they, of all the teams that are going to be in the mix for this, because we've talked about Alabama having the worst loss, Texas will now have the worst loss. The Florida loss will be the worst. They're either going to be three in nine or four and eight, so it'll be the worst loss. Here's the difficult thing, Andy, because you're right, if they don't make the playoff, I think I saw the ESPN graphics said that even with the win, they're 8% to get in. Yeah. But even if they, they're not going to get in, but with the floor, Florida lost, the question becomes if Texas did not win or did not play against Ohio State and

Starting point is 00:02:05 beat Rice instead, would they be in the playoff? Yeah. And I think the answer to that question is yes. So regardless of what they're penalizing, the question is going to be, is there more to lose from playing a game like that than there is to gain? And I wonder if that's going to change any schedule. We're going to hear a lot of rhetoric if they don't make it in. Now, I think there's some scenarios where maybe it won't matter, but Yoni Morales in the chat says, well, we'll be Texas A&M versus Georgia because Bama about to lose to the bottom feet of the SEC. Yanni, that's not what would happen. If Alabama loses to Auburn, yes, Georgia's in the SEC championship game.

Starting point is 00:02:40 So all that conversation we had about do they want to play in it or doesn't matter. They're playing in it. If Alabama beats or excuse me, if Alabama beats Auburn, Alabama's in it. If Auburn beats Alabama, Ole Miss would play Georgia in the SEC championship game. and think about that guys think about what that means if lane kiffin does not choose to stay if he says i'm off i'm going to ls u they got a game next week well the question is that happens did the result of the texas an m texas game uh delay the timeline of that at all of when we expect to hear the news i don't i think old miss now really needs an answer fast yeah but do you think at lane kiffin

Starting point is 00:03:25 we'll wait around to see whether he's going to the SEC championship game or if we're going to find it out before that game kicks off. That's not a night. That's a night game, Andy. Right. I think the decision was, was meant to be announced before that. Yeah, that's wild. So that is, it's funny. We've done three of these and they've all come back to Lane Kiffin because everything does come back to Lane Kiffin. So what's happening right now. Lane Kiffin is the entire sport. That's what everyone's minds are on. But Andy, I want to go back to the NM Texas game for a minute. Yes. Do you want to contextualize A&M season? because I feel like it's very easy to, you know, watch a game. They're losing, they're down to the dumps.

Starting point is 00:04:00 They lost a heartbreaker. I wrote a column earlier in the week saying that they had to win this game because in the state, obviously, that this reigns supreme and you don't want your special season to get taken away from Texas. And it kind of did tonight. Let's be honest. It did. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:16 But the way that A&M will be ultimately remembered by the rest of the country, maybe not in Texas, but the rest of the country will be defined by what happens from this point on. So if you're an Aggie, you should be upset. That stunk. You were winning at halftime. It felt like there was even a chance that you were going to be able to take control that game and you didn't.

Starting point is 00:04:34 Marcel Reed had a few tough turnovers down there, the second half, which means that his likelihood of winning the Heisman trophy went from unlikely to impossible probably. Yeah. But you still have a lot to play for this year, and I still wanted to congratulate Mike Elko in Texas A&M on a really good season. So Ken in the chat, is Texas A&M still a playoff team? Honest question.

Starting point is 00:04:53 Honest answer, yes. They're going to make the playoffs. There will be no debate about that. The made-up ESPN math was if they win, they're in 99.9% which I don't know how the, I don't know how that would. Yeah, I think they were 100% in if they won. And if they lost, they were 99%. So they lost 0.9%.

Starting point is 00:05:08 You're a one-lost team in the SEC and, you know, they're going to have to face some questions, Andy. They're going to face some questions about the schedule that they played and how it played out for them and all those things. And, you know, the only way that they're going to be able to answer those questions without being called the fraud, which they'll hear for a lot of the next month, right just to go win a playoff game there's only one way out and that's winning well question is now what do you do with texas and i think a lot of that is dependent on what happens tomorrow

Starting point is 00:05:37 yeah so if ohio state beats michigan if tennessee beats vanderbilt if does texas want auburn to beat alabama or not want auburn to be alabama how does that matter that doesn't matter okay uh the thing that you should be asking is the Vanderbilt effectively get eliminated tonight. Yeah, they're going to have a hard time because even at 10 and 2, they have a head-to-head loss to Texas and Texas is going to play that we played Ohio State card. And you know what? If Texas had played Virginia Tech, they'd be 10 and 2-2.

Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah. So bad loss, I mean, the committee is considering bad losses now in a way that they haven't in the past. Maybe that plays into it. But, you know, seven-point margin of defeat to Ohio State, I think will be probably a positive for their resume um you know but hey far from eliminated well we'll see what happens with that game because i still i still want to know what the committee's going to do how they're going to because if if andy's 10 and 2 i'll be very curious to see how they rank those two like whether or not

Starting point is 00:06:42 michigan because i think if michigan beats ohio state this is all a moot point they're going to get that spot yeah um because like you're going to start seeing a collection or a conglomerate of 10 and 2 and nine and three teams are towards the bottom. Or we're going to have to parse through all that. You want to hear an easier way out of it for the committee? Let's say BYU beats UCF tomorrow and they go lose to Texas Tech and they're 11 and 2 with two losses to Texas Tech that the committee's going to have with a buy, by the way, at that point.

Starting point is 00:07:10 They just put BYU in. Yeah, I don't know if they want to escape the way out of what. They'd be happy to put Texas in if that was a better option. I mean, I guess the question's going to be. Who would you put in, though, Texas or BYU? it's difficult I don't you hadn't thought about that one had you

Starting point is 00:07:28 I hadn't really thought about BYU but BYU in the same regard too it's like on one hand they've been kind of disrespected by the committee but on the other hand it's like do you have to take a account but they haven't really been

Starting point is 00:07:38 disrespected by the committee they're right there yeah I don't know if you play a playoff team twice and you lose twice I don't know maybe it's a matchup thing I mean I think they probably have to play them a little closer than they played the first time

Starting point is 00:07:51 the thing with BYU is they don't have anything else booing the resume. They have the Utah win, and the committee loves Utah. Yeah, they do. Utah ended up winning today, right? They did. Yeah. So that's still help. Remember, BYU started the week five spots ahead of Texas. Yeah. So does that, does Texas getting one of the better wins of the year overcome that? I mean, it's kind of hard to predict because I used to think that that was the supreme thing. You have a top five win. That means more to the committee than anything. That's not how it works anymore. Yeah. Who you beat isn't carrying the, carrying the shipping. the way it used to. So that's that's the interesting question. We are trying to predict what a group of

Starting point is 00:08:29 people who've been largely unpredictable all year are going to do. Because they've got one of the best wins, but they've got one of the worst losses. Well, Texas has the worst loss. And right now, according to the rankings, they have the best win. Now, perhaps that shifts to Alabama because Georgia might be ranked higher than Texas A&M. But at the moment, they have the best win. But at the moment, they have the best win and the worst loss. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, kind of had a feeling that this could happen and we're here. And like, let me ask you this, though, because Texas by and large for most of the year kind of looked like crap. Let's be honest. Yeah. A lot of their season, they didn't look like.

Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah. Did you watch the game, the Mississippi State game, obviously the Florida game. Watching this game tonight, watching the way that Arge performed in the second half, do you have confidence that Texas could perform in the playoff after that? Like, well, the committee If they play like that, they can beat a lot of teams in the playoff. Yeah. So they're back in it. They're back in it. They are back in it.

Starting point is 00:09:32 So, all right, what does that mean for everybody else? You think that's it for Vanderbilt? I do. Okay. What about Michigan? Can they get in with a winning in its Ohio State? Yeah. I mean, we have to, like, take out a sheet of paper and do that, like, it's always

Starting point is 00:09:46 sunny in Philadelphia, like crime charts. It's hard to figure that out. The question's going to be, if. If Michigan does beat Ohio State, Ohio State stays in the field, and then, you know, who gets knocked out? Right. Who has the most, like, to me, I would take Michigan over Texas in that situation, because Michigan would have. That's what I think. I think Texas is out if Michigan wins.

Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah. Because we're looking at this. Okay, Texas A&M is not being knocked out of the field. The only one that could potentially be knocked out of the field is Alabama. And then you're going to have the Alabama Texas head to head. at 9 and 3, and potentially Vanderbilt at 10 and 2, and BYU, potentially, at 11 and 2. Yeah. So here's two curveballs.

Starting point is 00:10:33 If BYU beats Texas Tech in the Big 12 championship game, they're both in. Here's a curveball for you, Andy. Okay. We've been fixating a lot on the Notre Dame by Miami. Oh, okay. Is this, there we go. I don't want to have that. I can't do it again.

Starting point is 00:10:48 I'll pass out. But what I want to know is if Michigan is 10 and 2 in Notre name is 10 and 2 and you scrutinize those resumes together who wins that also what about if it's Notre Dame Miami and Michigan they're going to pick Michigan if Michigan beats Ohio State they're going to pick Michigan because Michigan have you put Texas into that

Starting point is 00:11:09 pot I think it's still going to be Michigan yeah but you have two you have three four teams for two spots well okay so Texas and Michigan you'll have Okay. Texas would have an A&M win and a Vandy win would be their two best. And Texas would have the horrific loss. Michigan would not have a horrific loss. No. Michigan's two losses would be Oklahoma, playoff team, USC, which we think is going to finish nine and three. Yes.

Starting point is 00:11:35 So I would put Michigan in that scenario. Yeah. So, you know, you have. Right now we're talking about one spot. Potentially Notre Dame's spot is in danger. Yeah. I mean, like Notre Dame doesn't want any more bid thieves to get into the picture anymore than Texas does. Notre Dame, Texas, Notre Dame, Alabama, all those people really do not want BYU to win tomorrow and then win next Saturday against Texas Tech. Well, what would be interesting is if BYU does win and then we start scrutinizing Texas Tech's resume, you know, there's a lot of different avenues this can go down. I think if I'm Notre Dame, you know, Notre Dame is just living under this reality that they're in no matter what.

Starting point is 00:12:14 And so far, you know, in their defense, the committee has given us no reason to think that they're not going to just put them in. Well, they have them above Alabama right now, which I don't... Makes no sense. But I don't see them changing that. Unless Alabama wins the SEC, which they could. Yes, that's true. If Alabama beats Georgia, then absolutely... Well, not only that, Alabama's in automatically if that...

Starting point is 00:12:35 Because Alabama, we want to the five highest ranked conference champs. So... Hot Lanham Man says, as a UGA fan, if the SEC championship game ends up UGA Bama, I don't want to go, nothing to gain and everything to lose. Am I insane? and you're absolutely not. We talked about this earlier. Georgia lost the starting center in the Georgia Tech game.

Starting point is 00:12:57 I would bet they were not thrilled with the result of the A&M Texas game. They wanted to not play in that game probably because they needed to get healthy. By the way, Jeff Sims just threw an interception. It is still 10-7 Arizona in the Territorial Cup. Can I read a quote to the question from Kirby Smart? You may. we schedule them the ones that want to leave we schedule them we try to get them on the schedule because when they leave they're not physical it means they're probably going to a place that's not

Starting point is 00:13:25 physical we like those places we like to play them we prefer to play them actually he's not talking about wanting to play a physical game or not it's one of those deals where you don't run from hard in life you run from hard you'll find more hard they're not running from it they're hoping the system would let them avoid it okay if you're if you're a georgia fan just read that quote tried really hard to win the SEC next week. Yeah. Well, they're in now, right? Yeah, they're in. There's no choice. You can't deny it like it's a bowl bid.

Starting point is 00:13:52 It's not like the outback ball where you can say no thank you. But yeah, that's going to be a fun game. After a long winding year of SEC football, we just line back at Georgia, Alabama. Caleb says, what should the committee weigh more a close loss at Ohio State or a bad loss of Florida? I think they're going to weigh the bad loss

Starting point is 00:14:08 at Florida more. I think that is going to weigh more. If you're reading the tea leaves on how the committee has reacted to, everything so far this year, you would think that. Maybe they'll average the two together. I don't know. Yeah. Because Notre Dame's doing a lot of floating around with quality losses of tough teams. So, you know, Texas on one hand has that. Does this loss

Starting point is 00:14:26 hurt Notre Dame's resume? One of their quality losses took a loss. I don't know. I don't know. Because they're still going to be a top 10 team. So, you know, I don't know how much of a difference that makes. Well, again, the committee putting them above Alabama, I think, tells us

Starting point is 00:14:41 something. So, So the Iron Bowl is obviously, we're all going to have eyes on the Iron Bowl for many, many reasons. One, Jordan Harris Stadium's haunted. Two, the games are just crazy. Three, if Alabama loses, maybe they're out. Does DJ Durkin get the job at Auburn if Auburn wins? But also, we need to be watching BYUCF. Yeah, I think that you might be right.

Starting point is 00:15:11 I don't know what they're going to do. the two big 12 thing seems a little far-fetched to me. It does not if BYU wins tomorrow and then beats Texas Tech. They're not going to just drop Texas Tech out of the bracket. Like Texas Tech is going to be four or better going into the Big 12 championship game. Yeah. They're going to drop them to 11. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:32 Also, I don't think that's going to happen. So you never know. It's college football, but I would be surprised after what I saw the first time those two teams played if the result was different. What else we got here? I mean, it's just, so I listed the teams in the tweet, and I didn't list BYU, and I got to apologize because I feel like we've just ignoring them all year, but we can't ignore them. They're very much in the mix for this thing. They are number 11.

Starting point is 00:16:04 You need to be number 10 to get in. That's it. You need to be number 10 to get in. Yeah, they're right there. They're right there. So I guess Steve Sarkesian said that Texas has three wins better than Notre Dame's best win. Notre Dame is USC. Texas A&M is better.

Starting point is 00:16:24 Banderbilt is better. What's the other one? I don't remember the other one. It ain't Kentucky. It ain't Mississippi State. It's hard to remember everybody's resume at the top of our head, guys. So give us a second. Oklahoma.

Starting point is 00:16:38 Oh, Oklahoma. We're so stupid. It's midnight, Troy. So Texas has two wins against playoff teams. And a dominant winning against Oklahoma. Yes, they do. Again, it doesn't seem to matter. Should matter.

Starting point is 00:16:54 Should matter. I can't, I can't, you don't put me on the spot on that one again. But the Florida loss is a terrible loss. And that's the other piece of that. Yeah. Like if you didn't lose to Florida, a team that might only finish with three wins, but at best can finish with four. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:10 Well, here's another. They were not even having an argument. Another curveball on this, too, is that the committee seems pretty keen on the eye test. And I've got to be honest, Texas failed the eye test 80% of the time this year. Right. They passed it tonight, but not every night. Yeah. So I don't know.

Starting point is 00:17:26 The committee's thought process is like a big southern stew. I don't know what we're going to put in there, but we'll see what we get out on Tuesday. Well, this is going to be a wild day tomorrow because, like we said, everything all always comes back to Lane Kiffin. As of now, Ole Miss is now in the mix for a birth in the SEC title game if Alabama loses the Iron Bowl.

Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah. Does that change, delay? I don't think it delays anything because old miss is like not Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss. Ole Miss, the administration wants a decision right now. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:07 So, they got to get started prepping for a game in a week if Alabama loses. Tomorrow is Lane Kiffen Watch on top of rivalry Saturday. On top of Ohio State, Michigan, on top of the Iron Bowl, on top of all of these games that could affect Vanderbilt, Tennessee. BYU, they play UCF, but they got to win. Texas Tech plays West Virginia.

Starting point is 00:18:29 They don't have to win, but it would certainly not hurt. Yeah. Yeah, we are, we are, I brought my puff for everyone. So we're probably going to go live on the side of a highway somewhere in Romulus, Michigan, Yeah, maybe we get all the way to Yipsilani. I don't know, but I can feel it in my plums. It's going to come out of nowhere and it's going to come fast. So we'll be prepared, though.

Starting point is 00:18:49 Oregon, Washington's tomorrow, too. That's another good game. Good Lord. It is going to be wild. Miami Pittsburgh, 33 degrees of kickoff, everybody. 33 degrees of kickoff in Miami, Pittsburgh. It's going to be a day. Oh, and the chat is all in the third team here ain't played nobody.

Starting point is 00:19:09 Well, no one's played anybody. Nobody's played anybody. we also started it tomorrow already that I didn't even think about because we keep harping on Lane Kiffin watch what if we find out

Starting point is 00:19:22 who Florida is hiring as a coach who Auburn's hiring as a coach who Penn State is hiring as a coach all that could happen in the next two days as well it's a good day for me to be out of town we're going to be hacking away and talking away and it's going to be great

Starting point is 00:19:38 I hope everything happens tomorrow it's going to be spectacular When next you see us, we will hopefully be at the big house. But again, if news pops super early, we may be in Yipzalani. We don't know. What a day. Thank you to the MGM grant in Detroit. Unbelievable host.

Starting point is 00:19:57 We had a great time in the sports book. If you've never done a great college football day in a sports book, so we did Black Friday. After Michigan, Ohio State, we're coming back at the sports book here. We're going to watch the afternoon games. We're going to watch the Iron Bowl. If you've never done a big college football day in a sports book, I highly recommend it. If you can get to this one here, MGM Grand Detroit, it is spectacular.

Starting point is 00:20:22 Great slice of pizza, too. Ari, let's get some sleep. Everybody, get some sleep. It's going to be a big day tomorrow. We'll see you then.

Andy & Ari On3 - Texas beats Texas A&M | What it means for the Longhorns, Aggies, Georgia and Ole Miss

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