Andy & Ari On3 - The 2025 College Football QB Fantasy Draft

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

Less than 5 weeks away from college football, Andy & Ari have made their quarterback big board ahead of the season, and now, it's time to draft their top signal callers before week one. Whose list is better? Did Andy or Ari get it right? Will Producer River's team have a chance when he drafts? Watch here to find out who the best quarterbacks are ahead of the season. (0:00-2:50) Intro: QB Draft Day(2:51-5:25) American Conference News(5:26-10:08) Rules of the QB Draft(10:09-14:58) Round 1(14:59-19:01) Round 2(19:02-22:08) Round 3(22:09-26:19) Round 4(26:20-30:10) Round 5(30:11-33:14) Round 6(33:15-38:55) Round 7(38:56-40:39) Round 8(40:40-45:15) Round 9 - Ari's Sexy Pick?(45:16-47:20) Round 10(47:21-49:59) Previewing Producer River's potential team(50:00-52:17) Review of Andy & Ari's teams(52:18-55:57) Week 1's GREAT Matchups(55:58-57:28) Conclusion: River's team tomorrowWatch our show LIVE on YouTube, M-F at 9:30 am et! https://www.youtube.com/@On3sportsHosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River BaileyInterested in partnering with the show? Email [e-mail]

Welcome to Annie and Ari on we happy Monday big week coming up. We got big 10 meaty days Ari and I will be in Las Vegas. We got ACC meaty days. We've got the American meaty days and we'll explain why I said it just like that in a minute. But today our annual quarterback fantasy draft. This is Ari's first time competing in the quarterback fantasy draft. We gotta guard Jamie Cornwit on Twitter who keeps score.

Ari, I was looking through my board or I was making my board for this draft. Can I make a media prediction for this year? Sure. In the first week of October, there are gonna a so many stories about how all the defenses stink. I think there's so many better quarterbacks than going into this

time last year. Yeah, and defenses for the most part are still at a disadvantage from a rule standpoint. Then you add in a lot of really, really good talent and you know, on top of it too, Andy, it's a very good wide receiver year, which also makes it more difficult.

So you know, we think about the sophomores that are going to be here and some of the big teams I think that like guys like Trevor Pena get overlooked. But there's a lot of very effective wide outs that are going to make things Trevor Pena probably makes

drew Allers numbers go up right? So I'm super excited about doing this quarterback draft because you know people who listen to the show are probably going to hear some of the same names that you know we've gone through in the past, but you know maybe some new ones too. It's a new way to I mean, this is a we're basically measuring projected production, not just who's the best with their eyes, right? Yeah, and there's some gambling involved here because you're going to have to pick guys that you think are going to be the starter but that might not, or some young guys that are going to be first-time starters that maybe they get benched. We just don't know, and obviously,

nobody wants anybody to get hurt, but there will be injuries, so you have to worry about that as well. It's a great exercise, though, to get you ready for the season. And it gets me even more excited for the season when I look through all of the projected starting quarterbacks for this year,

because I just feel like there's so many guys that could put up huge numbers. There's more experience this year than last year, it seems like, or more experienced guys in places where you know they're gonna produce than last last year where there was a lot more unknown. But the flip side of that is the best rosters for the most part, the teams we think are going to be national title competitors. Weirdly, almost all of them have new quarterbacks.

Yeah. So why don't you go through the rules? Because I think the rules are going to help shape how we go about this. And before we get to the rules, a little, little bit of news this Monday morning, the the American conference rebranding, I didn't notice I didn't say. American athletic conference, it's not that anymore, it's American conference or the American and that's it. And they got a mascot now sore the eagle

Look, that's a tough looking mascot. I like that. I think that this branding goes quite well with like the vibe of the country right now Oh, yeah America basketball player with the tights under the shorts. Yeah source got some swag He's got the jerk. He's got the one one sleeve on one arm That's so here's what I'm hoping for Sore the Eagle, because I believe this is the first mascot for a conference. Because I don't think the SEC, the ACC don't have one.

The Big Ten would never have one. I really hope, because I was looking at Blooper, the Atlanta Braves mascot mm-hmm blooper is very sassy on social media like can we get sassy sore on social media I think that would that would help the conference so the Eagles knew right the Eagles knew they never had a man nobody's ever had a mascot for a conference that I can think of do you know what is good about good branding is when you unveil

something and it seems like natural or like that might have already existed somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. Oh wait. didn't already have this. Yeah. This is not this actually fits. This is not one of those where you see it and you're like why did you do this or you spent this much money and you all you did was change the font a little bit like no this this makes sense and also so. Like that people would call the American Athletic Conference, the AAC.

I don't think most people know what that is in the American sounds government agency to me, didn't it? Yeah, the American sounds good so now it's up to them. They like they need to put a team in the playoff. They need to put one of their champion in the playoff. They they need to put one of their their champion in the playoff like this like Tulane Memphis Navy Army like one of those teams needs to make the playoff but that. Will help reinforce all of this new branding if that can happen. Yeah, I mean what we two or three years removed from it

being the strongest deepest G5 conference in the country. You know and I know that know, realignment kind of changes the landscape on those those things a little bit, but like, you know, they do have some squads in there that are in the picture. Tulane is very much in the picture. So Memphis, I think, is a team that, you know, you could get excited about going into this year. They've got some squads. Well, one of their quarterbacks, maybe it depends,

might wind up on our QB fantasy team because, let's go over the rules. At least one D5 quarterback out of your 10, that is a rule. The scoring system, you get one point for every passing yard, one point for every rushing yard, six points for every passing touchdown and six points for every passing yard. One point for every rushing yard. Six points for every passing touchdown and six points for every passing, every rushing TD. So touchdowns are very important. Dual threat guys who can score on the ground

are very important. And it'll be interesting to know too, Andy, when you go, cause like that's the reason why fantasy college football's never really caught on, And it'll be interesting to know too, Andy when you go. Because like that's the reason why fantasy college football is never really caught on, I think, because the point system in the NFL. You know, throwing or rushing for

touchdowns is equally hard every week, whereas in college football you can, you know, start somebody who's playing in a game where their teams of 58 point favorite and they're going to score a bunch more than a team that has a harder schedule like the schedules and the competition aren't equitable in college football so it's kind of like you know when you want to put together a list because like listen

you know we want to win we want to win the competition right but you also want to put out the sexiest list that makes the graphic on Twitter so it looks like you want immediately and there's like a balance between those things because if you post this later on and who won the fantasy draft in November or December people don't get as fired up as you know going into it. So like you want you want a solid looking list but you're like the team the person that loses could like win in a blowout you know like it so I'm trying to hopefully our guy Jamie, corn wit on Twitter, it

wants to keep score again this year, because that's been awesome the last couple years, great spreadsheets, they're beautiful. And so I'm hoping that Jamie wants to do this again. If not, we can keep score ourselves. It's no problem. But the way this is going to work is Ari and I are each going to pick a team today. So we'll go back and forth. Ari is going to get the first pick. We'll, we'll pick 10 guys each and people will yell at us on the internet when we unveil the picks because they won't understand the concept.

And they'll be like, I can't believe. Andy doesn't think Arch Manning is one of the top 10 quarterbacks in the country. And they won't understand that I just couldn't take him. Like, that's why he's not on the list. I think that makes the graphic needs to write draft in it to help us out. We do, but it still doesn't help. I mean, when I put out my top big 12 quarterbacks,

I had a Miami fan mad because he thought it was a nationalist. Yeah. Like noted, they're all in the big 12. How could you say that this is the best 10 in the country? So this is what we're dealing with. But after we do ours, so on in on Tuesday show Producer River will then get to pick 10 quarterbacks from everyone who's

left last year. He didn't stand a chance. I think this year he could win this year. Yeah. Yeah, and I appreciate you giving me the first pick because there there's a thread to be, you know, needled here, which is you're not necessarily going for the person you think is going to be the overall best. Um, in fact, I think I might have to pass on the person who I think is going to be

the overall best player to try to find the player that's most productive. Um, and that's, that's, you know, when do you pick your G five guy? He would think that, oh, automatically you're going to pick your G five guy at the end, but it's like, no, if you're playing, if you have a G five player who's playing, uh, for instance, like Liberty's quarterback, if they play an easy schedule and they're, they're up and away more talented than everybody, and they're going to be a 30 point favorite every week, then obviously touchdowns for the quarterback come a

little bit easier than they would for DJ lagway. You know, like, you know, you could even make the case for the G five quarterback if you go for him, not saying any names as we go into the draft could be the number one overall pick if you're trying to win. So like that's yeah, right. Because there could be a G five quarterback who puts up just absurd numbers. I do want to point out, I don't know if this guy's going to get picked, but Western Kentucky's quarterbacks name is Maverick McIver. Yeah. Maverick McIver. Um, that also sounds like he was born to play QB.

Uh, does that sound like an 80s sitcom? Maverick McIver. Yeah, I don't know. No, that's not an 80s sitcom. That's an 80s hour long drama. Well, it's MacGyver. Maverick MacGyver would be the quarterback who can create a touchdown out of a piece of string and baking powder. Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny. Okay. Are you ready to go? I'm ready. So II have I intentionally gave you the first pick because I think this is really hard like breaking the seal on this thing is difficult and I didn't know where to go. So I want you to kind of lead me here. OK, I'm going to throw you for a loop.

OK, my first picks Kate club Nick. Dang it. I don't know where you were going here, but club Nick is the touchdowns. Pat the past is going to put up big numbers because he's going to he's going to throw him and run for him. That it's that's a good Clemson's going to be in a. Lot of games that they're winning comfortably, but he threw for a lot of touchdowns last year in a season in which people

thought he didn't play very well at times or that he didn't reach his his pure pure potential and also he unlocked the running aspect because the running aspect of the huge deal here. And I know the scoring system isn't gonna take total yards into account, right? It's just-

Oh, it is. You get one point per passing yard and one point per rushing yard. I misspoke. I meant to say it's going to take total yards into account. Not, I misspoke. And that's a huge deal for this because he might break off an 80 yard run. I mean we saw him do it you know 4050. 43

touchdowns total for Kate Clubnick last year. He threw for 36. He ran for seven. Right and that was and we're expecting a better uh more efficient version of him this year against the schedule that I think is quite manageable. So yeah you know was hoping I could sneak Cade Klubnik in as my first or second round pick. Okay, so I get it. It's a good start. Yeah, yeah, that is a that is a great start and look you're gonna get yelled at on social media for that pick. I know I've seen a lot of rankings this year where Cade Klobnik is number one. And I mean, it's a production draft.

So that's where I'm at with it. And I don't know if you would have taken him right here in this spot if I didn't. But I didn't want to leave that up because now I'm playing this. I think I know who the next two or three quarterbacks off the bar are, and I'm still going to be able to get one of the two. So I'm going to take a risk here. Okay. I'm going to take a risk on health. Because I need this guy to be healthy. Actually, I need this guy to be healthy and his coach needs this guy to be healthy.

I know. I didn't just lose this thing if he's not healthy. His coach might get fired if he's not healthy. Yeah. I'm going with DJ Lagway at number one. Yeah, so I I'm happy about my pick then Andy because I wasn't going to take lag way number one because of health. Which means that the other option for my first pick is still available. So I kind of this also feels good to me because I'm going to I'm going to get somebody I really want in the second round knowing this, but here's the thing about lag way if he is healthy

He's gonna throw for a bunch of touchdowns, but he's 240 pounds. He's gonna be useful on the goal line For sure and like a Florida unlock some of that that big body Tim Tebow goal line package stuff You're gonna you're gonna get some point now, Although if he's fragile, they're not gonna do that. They're gonna hand it off to somebody. So I just like, maybe this is a good opportunity to talk about this. Is it fair to view DJ Lagway as fragile

going into the 2025 season? Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, okay. Here's the thing. Cause we, when we, we equate fragile with not being tough, I don't think he's not tough. I think he's very tough. He played on one leg against LSU last year. Like you go watch that game. He was clearly limited and played really well. So it's not a matter of toughness. It's just a matter of will his body do what

he needs it to do. Yeah. No, no, no toughness and fragility is are very different. You know, you can be very tough, but if your body doesn't hold up, your body doesn't hold up. And we've seen a lot of good players over the years. I mean, even in basketball where they're incredibly talented, it's like, you know, Greg Oden was a very good football basketball player, but his body just couldn't handle the the. Yeah. So with DJ Lagway,

you've had multiple instances this off season where he's had to kind of rest, shut things down for soft tissue stuff. So that's your fear. That's your fear there. But also you have what you saw at the end of last season where every game he started and finished, they won. And they were playing

LSU Ole Miss at the end of the season and he raised their level of play so much so I I think he can put up big numbers he's got to stay healthy. Ari your number two pick. Arch Manning. All right I knew you were going here and I'm so happy you did because now that gives me great options with my number two pick. But I think Arch Manning is made should have maybe been the number one pick, but I in a productions draft, like there is virtually 0% chance he's not productive in some way. Like I mean, the fact that he has the running aspect too, he is going to produce a lot.

He's gonna produce a lot. They've got really good receivers. Quinn Ubers last year through for more than 30 touchdowns, and I think he missed three games. You add in the running aspect to this, like he's gonna put up numbers, dude. Like I feel very comfortable with this. And I feel like-

I actually had Quinn Ubers on my team last year. He was one of the least productive quarterbacks I had. Oh, really? From a statistical standpoint? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. That scares me a little bit, but also too,

he missed some time. So I don't know. He did. He missed a couple of games. So that's part of it. But I feel you took a major risk at number one and yours is a boomer bust, right? Like, I mean, you're going major risk at number one, and yours is a boomer bust, right? Like, I mean, yours is gonna be like,

well, if you're right, if we're right, because we both love him, you're gonna look great. But I think that- And now I'm gonna go into the lane of let's get some guaranteed production. Okay. I can't wait to hear who you're who the person is that you asked absolutely had to have.

My number two. It's not because I was there. There are two or three guys I'd be very happy with right here. I'm taking Garrett Nussmeyer from LSU. Garrett Nussmeyer is going to throw for a million touchdowns this year. Man, that's insane. I, he is, he's going to have a great year. I cannot believe that that's, you went though, right here.

You thought I was going to go Lenora Sellers, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you why Lenora didn't throw for that many TDs last year and actually didn't run for as many as you think. So Nussmeyer is just going to be a volume shooter. Like that offense and maybe Joe Sloan will change their OC. But that offense tended to abandon the run last year at any sign of any close game and just chuck it like crazy. So Garrett, that's not going to reason why that's the reason why I wouldn't have gone here because I think LSU is going to power through that by learning from what they bailed on last year.

I said, but he's still going to throw, but even if they, even if they learn to balance the offense better, he's still going to throw for a bunch of touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like that's the thing too. It's like Lenora sellers is a more exciting player, but will he be a more productive player? Like I think that that's, I'm just imagining Garrett and us Meyer just back there throwing BBs, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. That's, that's, I'm hope. Now he had, he had 29 TD passes last year. I'm hoping he's into the thirties this year. Yeah. Um, I don't hate it.

I think that he, the LSU is probably going to make the playoff this year, if I had to guess. So if they do, it's going to be because he goes insane. Now I'm, you let me in. Well, and also I'm not convinced. I think their defense is going to be the playoff this year if I had to guess. So if they do, it's going to be because he goes insane. Now I'm, you know, And also I'm not convinced. I think their defense is going to be better this year. I think they did a really good job in the portal. We're going to see what they do with Perkins, but it looks like they've got Perkins doing the thing that he does best now. So I think he's not going to have to like, I don't think Nussmeyer is going to get roped into as many shootouts. It's not maybe not as bad as Jaden Daniels in 23 because

Jaden Daniels in 23 there was no choice but for him to just blow up by the way, he was on my team in 23 and but that defense was so awful. I think this LSU defense will be better. It will not for scared Nussmeyer to have to throw for 500 yards a game. But I think there will be some situations where he probably does have to do that. My next pick, Andy, um, I feel like I have to do something because I want to play

defense, but there's another player that I want more than this person. So I'm going to take a person that we already mentioned, okay. And then or a sellers. Yeah. And then I'm going to hope that you don we already mentioned. Okay, Lenora Sellers. Yeah, and then I'm going to hope that you don't go for the person that I want with your next pick because I feel like if I like if I leave Lenora Sellers out there, you'll take him next. Lenora Sellers is is a tempting one, especially in this

format because while he only ran for seven touchdowns last year, I could easily see him running for 15 touchdowns and improving his passing touchdown number. Yeah. And he was injured too, at times last year. So, you know, we, we need to make sure that, but, uh, I think that DJ lagway and Lenora sellers are very similar in where they're headed in this year. You took lag way in the first round. I got sellers in the third, like I got Sellers in the third.

Like I can live with that. Yeah. But I think it's a risk too, because I'm not sure that, I mean, they play a tough schedule. Going with SEC quarterbacks at the top of this could end up barring you. Because it's a very competitive, deep physical conference.

And I feel like you could, you know, go for somebody in the big 10 who puts up a bunch of numbers on a crappy team, which may be foreshadowing giving your facial expression. But what if I chose someone on a Big 10 good team? There are two options there. And I was going to let you make the first pick of that. And then I was going to get the second one.

So, yeah, I will take Julian saying from Ohio State. I will take the guy who gets to throw to Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate. Good for you. Yeah. It'll be good. I don't know that he runs at all. Um, so not worried about the running at this point. Jeremiah Smith, he's got a lot of things to throw to. 17 touchdowns this year. Um, so that's a, that's a pretty good layup pick, but I'm so happy that you didn't take the person that I wanted. Really? Oh, this is good. I wanted I wouldn't have taken Julian saying, well, let's talk about saying because saying is a bit of a risk. He is a first time starting quarterback. Any of these first time starting quarterbacks, you have to worry about the possibility they just get benched. Yeah, like they don't perform as well as they're supposed to.

Right. I don't know that I would worry about Ohio state benching their court. I, when's the last time Ohio state benched their quarterback in the middle of the year? I guess Kyle McCord in the first, in the third game, but I don't know. I thought he was injured. Uh, no, he wasn't really benched because he came, he came back. Yeah.

I mean, you, you'd have to go back to 2015 where we're urban Meyer couldn't pick between JT Barrett and Cardinal Jones. Yeah. So we're, we're talking about a decade ago and that was the most poorly managed and also two both played in a national championship run the year before, so I don't know that I see, I wouldn't worry about that. Um, in fact, I think that this is a also, I also think Ryan Day would have gone and gotten somebody

if he wasn't confident that Julian Sayen was his dude. The question I have is whether or not that should have been the first big 10 player off the board at the quarterback, because there is another one. Okay, but you're my dude. And like, listen, as we get down into the draft and we start drafting players from similar conferences, we can go back and talk about Julian saying and why you

picked him first and why I wouldn't have. But I'm taking John Matier with my fourth pick. Um, I think that you, you are the one who said, careful taking all these SEC quarterbacks. And here you go with a third SEC quarterback. Andy, I watched his highlight tape like four or five days ago. Oklahoma's offense used to be really, really good. I know there's been a coaching regime change, but what was Oklahoma's entire calling card? My entire adult life was insane offensive video game numbers. I think there's going to be an improved offensive line, an offensive coordinator at the helm that knows how to call an offense,

and one of the most electrifying quarterbacks in the country. I think from a statistical standpoint, even if Oklahoma's not very good, they're going to have to be in games where they score. I think he's going to run. He's going to extend plays. I think he's going to have very good statistics. You know, and I've actually thought that Oklahoma might be a pretty good team overall, but I think that I'm pretty comfortable with his production potential here. You may know this off the top of your head. I just looked it up. So I'm curious if you know

how many total touchdowns that John Mettier account for Washington State last year. I know he threw for 30 touchdowns, right? I don't know how many he ran. He's through for 29. He ran for 50, so 44. Yeah, I'm sorry he ran. Well, it was 44 total. I'm we're bad at math podcasts. But yes, yeah, 29 and 15.

If he does that, you're going to kick my ass. I think in the fourth round, that's a pretty good value pick. Yeah, I don't know that he'll he'll account for 44, but I think he'll account for 35. Yeah, that's is I think he pretty good number. He's the one who I feel like can truly blow up. In terms of touchdown production. And we'll see how it goes because he's going to

play some really good defenses. That's the thing. I just don't't know given the defenses he's got to play if he can come close to those numbers. It's the hardest schedule in the country so yeah you know I understand that there's a risk there but you took a risk with your first pick. I did. I took a major risk with my fourth. Yeah and that's the thing like if either one of those hits we should be feeling really good. Also you like I don't think we want to have potential Heisman finalists off of our lists you know like I just I you know you gotta you gotta like I'm also very vain and I want

people to think I won so going into it like I want to put together a list that makes you look bad immediately like that's also part of my goal. I hope you know that. Like I'm trying to do the same thing to you. And listen, it's all politics or local. Basically, whichever one of us picks somebody's favorite quarterback, we're going to be the genius and the other person is going to be the idiot. So that's, that's just how this is going to go.

My next pick. First big 12 quarterback off the board, Sam Levitt from Arizona state. Cam Scataboo leaving opens more rushing touchdowns for Levitt, who is a good runner. He only ran for five last year. He threw for 24 and ran for five. I think he runs for more this year. And I actually probably think he throws for more this year and I actually probably think he throws for more this year, too Yeah, I think that that is a oversight on my part

I think that you could have taken Levitt in with either of the last two spots The only thing that I fear is a regression to the mean for Arizona State this year And that's the number one thing that Kenny Dillingham Has been trying to combat in terms of this off season of like, yeah, we did a good job last year, but we don't want to be in a position where we just return back to the pack and people forget about us. Um, and I hear with a target on their back that Arizona State might be in danger of doing that. So, but, but I think that Sam Levitt, um, is unquestionably the best quarterback in the

big 12 and that's an offensive numbers conference, and I really like where your head's at. Yeah, so Cam Scavoo ran for 21 touchdowns last year. I think Sam Levitt's gonna assume a few of those. So I've got one that's kind of similar to this. I'm veering away from the SEC, and this is to be where people think I'm off the deep end a little bit. But this is a statistical I'm going to amass some stats here. And I'm going to go Kevin Jennings from SMU. That's a

player. That's a player that we don't talk about. Oh, you know what? I said you had all SEC. I forgot you had club Nick first. Like, yeah, you didn't do all SEC. Yeah, SEC yeah right no but the reason why clubbing was my first pick is because he was productive and not in the SEC but then like also too I've got three players in the SEC who I think could conceivably be Heisman finalists but Kevin Jennings would not be I think one of my top 10 picks for overall best quarterback in the country I think that from a statistical standpoint in the ACC,

he's gonna run all over the place. He did it last year. He's a year more comfortable. He learned from the play. I think he's gonna be in a position to have a highly productive season and he's a dual threat. So I'm trying to amass stats and this seems to be like a layup pick for that

in the fifth round. Well, and he's one that we, I think we remember probably too much about his last two games and not enough about his first 12 games. I think, yeah, the first half of the ACC championship was terrible for him, although he was awesome in the second half.

And then the playoff game against Penn State was a complete meltdown. So I think we're probably overvaluing that aspect of it and undervaluing what he's gonna be like week to week. And I think you made a good choice here. I do think this is a very good pick because he's gonna put up big numbers. Now, it's interesting, he only ran for five touchdowns

last year, threw for 23, ran for five, but we'll see how much that changes this year. But if you get that, that's great at this pick. And you also have to try to project a little bit on second year starter jumps too, right? Like it's not just about last year. Like what if Kevin Jennings? He didn't have an off season as the starter.

I mean, he supplanted Preston Stone early in the season. So it wasn't like they spent the whole, you know, last year didn't spend the whole off season designing the offense around Kevin Jennings like he did this year. And there's a lot of players I think I would take to lead my team over him at this point. I'm looking around at my board and I'm not necessarily seeing people that I know are going

to be highly, highly, highly productive. Guaranteed. I think this is a guarantee that he'll be productive, at the very least. So I am going to dip back into the realm of first year starters at this, at their teams this year who I think because of the talent around them are going to be very productive. I'm going to go with Oregon's Dante Moore. Yeah. This offense you're almost guaranteed Monday and Andy's been he's he's rolling the dice a little today, huh? That's right. That's right. That's right and I'm fine with that because I trust Will Stein, the offensive coordinator, if he thinks Dante Moore's his guy.

Because, again, Oregon's never been afraid to go get somebody if they need somebody. They were doing that before the transfer portal existed. So I think they would have done that if they didn't think Dante Moore was the guy. And I think the talent around him, even with Evan Stewart Hurt, I think he's got enough talent around him to put up incredibly big numbers. Yeah. OK. You got it. Oh, by the way, I'll point out. So Dylan Gabriel, who's probably not as good of an athlete

as Dante Moore, he was a pretty good athlete. Like, he was supposed to be an option quarterback before UCF signed him. But Dylan Gabriel had 30 passing TDs and seven rushing TDs last year. I think we could see Dante Moore put up that level of number. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm happy you took him because I'm going to go ahead and take the sleeper of the Big Ten. I'm going Drew Aller here. Drew Aller. The sleeper? Yeah. Well, I'm just saying like the most experienced quarterback on potentially the best team, the sleeper. So you're adding, um, a receiver into the mix for the first time with, for a quarterback that threw for 25 touchdowns each of the last two years or 24 and 25. And he also rushed for 300 yards and five touchdowns a year ago.

Yeah, he's a big dude. He's a really big dude. And you want to talk about some of that goal line stuff. Like Penn State also always seems to, you know, kick the crap out of the teams. They should beat the crap out of. And he has some, like, there's some games where Penn State's up 42 to 10 and people like, just forget about that.

Like this is a tier one quarterback. This could be the first quarterback taken off the board. And if you want to talk about production. Now that Trevor Pena is in the mix, they got the kid from USC coming in. They've got Luke Reynolds at tight end like they have some you know, and I know that this might be a little bit of a tricky pick because of the

running back duo, but Drew Aller is going to put up numbers this year, dude. Like I think people think he stinks for some reason. He does not stink. And I will gladly take him as the third quarterback off the board of the Big 10. I'm gonna take the fourth quarterback off the board of the Big 10. I know who it is.

I know who it is. You're taking Mendoza. Fernando Mendoza, baby. God damn it. That was gonna be my next pick. So if you stayed up late last year watching Cal, Fernando Mendoza did not have a lot of help. Was pretty good QB at Cal.

He goes into an offense where Curtis Rourke threw for a bunch of touchdowns last year. He threw for 29 touchdowns. Elijah Sarat is back, their best receiver. They have a lot of talent on this team. They have a lot of good, they have some good offensive linemen coming back. Fernando Mendoza wound up have a lot of good. They have some good offensive lineman coming back for an end of Mendoza wound up in a really good situation. The schedule is probably harder for Indiana this year, but it's not insurmountable.

And so if their offense is as good and remember same same coordinator Mike Shanahan, not that one is still the coordinator at Indiana. Tino Sincere left. He was the QB's coach. He left and he's now running the UCLA offense. not that one is still the coordinator at Indiana. Tino Sincere left. He was the QB's coach. He left and he's now running the UCLA offense, but they still have most of the same. Coaching staff lot of same players. I that's I love the way this works. I think Mendoza comes in there and lights it up. Yeah, I think that that's a pretty good pick. And like the fact that Indiana just like ran up the score a bunch last year. Um, and they, they

have an easy, one of the easier non-conference schedules, which I think you need to take into account. I think you're going to have a, that's probably even a better pick than Aller. I think I might've made a mistake there. Kurt, Kurt Signetti likes to make a point and Fernando Mendoza may help him make some points this year. Yes I think that that's fair and Curtis Rourke was injured and still had those numbers. So right okay so I'm gonna so there is somebody I'm obsessed with from a video game number standpoint I'm not

gonna take because injury scares the crap out of me, but I am going to take somebody from the big 12. Who was it? OK, is Jalen Daniels the one you're not taking? Yeah, yeah, OK. Jalen Daniels. What? Who are you taking? I'm trying to figure out whether I should go for a layup here of guaranteed production or if I should go for sexiness speculative. I'm going Devon Dampier. I don't want him on my team. Devon Dampier is somebody that we don't know quite enough about. I think this is going to be the type. I'm picking a player with my seventh pick that I think at the end of the year you're going to go,

holy shit, he got him in the seventh round. I was so hoping you would go somebody else because Devin Dampear was my next one. Okay. Well, I'll trade you damn peer for Mendoza. Nope. Devin Dampear is somebody I think has a chance to be really good and I almost went somebody else here. I think my next two picks might be from this conference. I don't know why I'm telling you my board ideas, but I was very, there are players in this conference that you will get guaranteed production from that you know you can feel good about. I'm going with the sexy speculative pick. And I think that I have going with the sexy speculative pick.

And I think that I have a chance to be really, really right or really, really wrong. But on my Twitter board on Monday, when this is up, I think I'm gonna be happy he's on it. Devon Dampier is the potential, and he's in New Mexico transfer for those who don't know. The potential here is for a ton of rushing touchdowns. The ideal comparison,

what you would want out of this Utah season, taking Devon Dampier, you want Nick Marshall at Auburn essentially. That level of running ability, that scary in the run game so that there's nine men in the box and he's throwing the wide open receivers. That's that's what I mean. Nick Marshall played corner in the NFL was a very effective college quarterback who took his team to a national title game. So that's that's the hope for Devon damp here who is not that great of a thrower. But if he's throwing to wide open people, you're feeling pretty good about it.

He threw at New Mexico last year, he ran for 19 touchdowns. He threw for 12. You'll take 31 touchdowns at any, at any rate. But if this guy, what does it be? What if he runs for 20 and throws for 20? It's a, it's a major, it's a major risk with the passing and I understand that.

But this is a much better offensive line than he played behind last year and I realize the competition level goes up but he's got two potential first round tackles in front of him. Like this is a good pick. I'm very mad. There are three other quarterbacks in the big 12 who are legitimately like NFL prospects that I have not taken that you know for sure will will put up 28. Well, it's a gamble. And so it's a gamble here. Yeah. Okay.

So I'm going to roll the dice on another big 12 quarterback. Okay. River show that graphic of the starters in the big 12. So right now, here's my issue. I have to decide who's going to compile the most touchdowns between Avery Johnson from Kansas State, Sawyer Robertson from Baylor, Josh Hoover from TCU, Rocco Beck from Iowa State, Baron Morton from Texas Tech. All of those guys could potentially put up big numbers this year. Do you want me to tell you who I almost took just now? Because I'm probably not going to take him

now. I almost took Josh Hoover. Go look at his numbers from last year. His numbers are great. Yeah, you know whose numbers were equally good or maybe even better. The guy I'm going to take Sawyer Robertson from Baylor. Yeah, well also too, and I don't know if part of the reason why, but the most productive passing offense last year in the Big 12 was Colorado. So you also have a speculative play there too. Right. But the problem, my problem with Colorado is Deion Sanders bringing Julian Lewis to media days made me go, could Julian Lewis take over as a starter at some point

this season from Kate and Salter? And if that's. And if that's going to happen, then I don't want to pick a guy who might not be playing the whole season. Sawyer Robertson should be Baylor's quarterback all season if he's healthy. And he put up really good numbers last year, and especially the second half of last year. And remember, he was not originally supposed to be the starting quarterback at Baylor. Daquan Finn was. And so Baylor really took off when Sawyer Robertson got comfortable. And remember, it was Jake Spavettal's first year as OC. This is his second year. So now they had the whole off season to work together. I think this could be really good. Sawyer Robertson, 28 passing touchdowns, 8.3 yards for attempt.

He threw for 3000 yards. Like he's, he's going to put up big numbers in this offense. If all goes well, he had four rushing touchdowns too. So like I would take that. If he just gives me that 32 touchdowns, I'll take it. But if he gets better, we got, we got some cooking. Yeah, I like that pick. And I think I'm going to veer away from the big 12 and give you another big 12 guy with your next pick and just let you be the big 12 King. But I'm going to go to Mon Williams from Washington. Oh, that's a good choice. Pick. That's a good

choice. I think that he's going to be highly productive this year. He's a good runner, very explosive player. Very we don't have stats to fall back on. Didn't play much last year, but in the glimpses that we showed, I think like the Devon Dam Pier, D'mon Williams, one two gambles. I think one of them is going to hit. So my next one might sound like a little bit of a gamble, but I kind of I want to just trust in

in this coach because he seems like he he knows what he's doing here. I'm gonna go back to the ACC. Okay. And I'm gonna take Darian Mensah from Duke. Because this is a guy who put up great numbers at Tulane last year. He's going to a team where Malik Murphy threw for 26 touchdowns last year and then was immediately in the portal. And we figured out why like three days later when Darian Menson said he was going to do they are clearly upgrading a quarterback here. This is going to be very interesting because they were they were very good

last year like should have beaten SMU. One nine games I think Duke could be in for a big year and. Like they went out and got the quarterback they wanted. Darien Mensah slightly behind John Matier, but probably the second most desirable QB in the portal this year.

Yeah, don't hate that. I actually kind of love it, but also I'm thankful. Oh, by the way, we each have two picks left and one of them has to be G5 player. I know. I'm doing the thing that I said I wasn't going gonna do, but my... This is a podcast and I'm like struggling between trying to win the draft, but also trying to be sexy. And I don't know what to do. I'm really struggling. You may have to be a little sexy to win the draft, but that also includes the risk of you could lose

because you try to be sexy. Yeah. You know what I'm gonna do? What are you gonna do? I'm just going to take the sex, I'm taking Bryce Underwood. That's a good pick. Because except we know what that offense looks like.

They had a first round draft pick when they won the national championship and he didn't have to put up big numbers. the We know what that offense looks like. They had a first round draft pick when they won the national championship and they didn't. He didn't have to put up big numbers. I want to don't need to in that offense is working. I want him on my

list. I don't know if I'm going to lose people to say that guy knows ball. Yeah. I I'm I I you're right about the McCarthy stuff. But. Who knows though they might need it more. They might need the passing game more. With Bryce Underwood. They certainly can't be any worse throwing the ball than they were last year. So you do that little hook and ladder and he can pick up a few 80 yard touchdown passes. I don't know that little trick play. I mean listen, I could have taken Josh Hoover. I could have

taken Kayden Salter. This is where River may kick our ass by the way. Like River's going to go in here and just like go pick up like all these players that are going to be guaranteed production and like he's not going to worry about like all the different names. There's a lot of names that could have that you could have taken here. Um, you know, Gio Lopez is somebody who stood out to me. I thought about it. You know, Miller Moss is somebody who stands out. Um, thought about that one too. Even though all the, all the little fans are mad.

Cause I left Miller Moss off of my top 10 ACC QBs and, and they may be right. Like he may be awesome this year. I just thought it was red flag that you were the starter for Lincoln Riley and you didn't have a great year. Yeah, cause you're gonna tell me Jeff Brahm is a QB whisperer, well Lincoln Riley's a more accomplished QB whisperer and it didn't work with him. So that's my issue.

But the Bryce Underwood thing, they have to be able to throw the ball better. So we'll see. I just, I don't know that he has the receivers that he needs right now. That's the part that concerns me more than anything. And philosophically, if they're doing what they want, he's not putting up massive numbers through the air. Here's my thought process on it.

he's not putting up massive numbers through the air. Here's my thought process on it. We anticipate that Michigan's offense is going to be much better this year. Right? Yep. Why? Because of Bryce Underwood. Bingo. How it looks.

How it looks. That's why we flicker. Why it looks that way. I don't know how it's going to play out. I just want him on my list and I'm going to let it go. I want to be a part of the Bryce Underwood like hive. Yeah, I can understand that. Yeah, I'm going to go to that like we only have one more P5 quarterback to take. So like it's kind of like also just kind of like a sexiness factor to it.

I don't know. Maybe it's a of like also just kind of like a sexiness factor to it. I don't know maybe it's a bad pick. This is this is like you picking the Heisman trophy winner based on story as opposed to the best player. I am going to make my group of five pick now. Navy's Blake Horvath and I realize I just got through saying philosophically I worry about Bryce. He threw pretty successfully for a triple option quarterback last year, didn't he? Blake Horvath ran for 17 TDs, which is the number you'd expect for a good option quarterback. He threw for 13 though. I will take 30 touchdowns. 30 touchdowns will work for me. How many did he throw for 13? That's a really good pick that 4444 touchdowns could have been

the first pick in the trash. So he threw for he no he had 30 total he ran for 17 through for. I thought you said he ran for 30. No, no I with with my but with my ninth round pick. I'll take 30 times if I get 30 touchdowns out of my ninth round pick. I thought you said he ran for 30. No, no, I with with my but with my ninth round pick, I'll take 30 touch. If I get 30 touchdowns out of my ninth round pick, I'm I'm winning. Yeah. Uh, I think I like I like your pick. You know, I'm taking kind of an off the radar one. And I didn't know what much about

him other than I think Southern Miss is just gonna kick people's asses on it all year. I'm just gonna take Braylon Braxton because like the entire- The entire- Good choice. Do you see what I'm- The whole Marshall team basically went to Southern Miss to play for Troussuff. I think Braylon Braxton's gonna have a really productive year

in an unexpected way. So that's my G5 layup. I didn't think I was in danger of losing him. That's why I waited till the 10th round. I like that. That's a great pick. I like that a lot because that like we've talked about this on the show. We talked about when we had Colin Wilson on the show like the Southern Miss in the Sunbelt is such an interesting situation because Marshall won the Sunbelt last year. They were not going to renew Charles Huff. He goes to Southern Miss.

A lot of the players from Marshall followed him to Southern Miss. So they're going to they're going to already know what they're doing. Right off the bat. It'll it'll depend on what he put around them, but that's a that's a very good pick. Yeah, I don't know. You've got one more. Yeah um and I don't know you've got one more I

can't wait to see who you've got. I do have one more and I'm just trying to figure out where to go with this thing because I'm trying to find somebody who could put up just absurd numbers. Know what I'm gonna go with my just the guy I like the best. The guy who has the most aura. The guy who just makes his team better. Is this your beat Diego? Diego Pavia, baby. Give me Diego Pavia. I just want him on my team.

Okay, I'm happy that we both have. I just want him on my team person. Your Bryce Underwood pick. Yeah, I don't know. I think the Bryce Underwood pick might end up losing me this thing, but Diego Pavia is he runs it. Diego Pavia threw for 20 and ran for eight last year. Yeah. His offense is slightly better. He could, you know, do a little bit better. I can live with that. Yeah. So to set it up. River gets to do his list with the benefit of time and not having to react to other people. Right. I think River can beat us. Let's talk about who's available to River.

That's what I wanted to do. So here are the players that stand out to me that I could have drafted and didn't. Deshaun Purdy at Wake Forest, I think, is a good speculative pick. Cartman Beck, Gio Lopez. CJ Carr. CJ Carr was not taken. Kayden Salter was not taken. Rocco Beck was not taken. Josh Hoover was not taken.

Jalen Daniels and Avery Johnson both were not taken. He could go get anything. Gunnar Schockton, Austin Simmons. I should have taken Austin Simmons somewhere. Yeah, Austin Simmons should have been taken. Mark Rynowski should have been taken. Dylan Raola was not taken. Taylor Green like him or not was not taken.

He's a player Marcel Reed was not taken. Nico was not taken, but I don't think we were going to take Niko. Maddox Madsen from Boise State was not taken in the G5. Malik Murphy wasn't taken. He's got some dudes to choose from. Owen McLean at UTSA is one to watch. Also, Jaden Maiava might be a productive statistical player this year. That was somebody that we could have taken. Jaden Maiava was, my fear on. Was what if who saw on Longstreet?

Comes in and is the guy and takes over. Luke Altmeyer was not taken. I was so my that's another big one. I just with Luke Altmeyer, it's it's a case of they're still going to probably try to run the ball a lot I don't and I don't know that he's going to be the one running in the touchdowns. So he had four rushing

touchdowns last year. Yeah. I mean, I think you get five just by being a default, uh, big 10, right? If you're a big dude, like, yeah, not if you're super tiny, but like Luke Altmeyer is a big dude. If you're a big dude and. You're going to occasionally. Either sneak it in or bootleg it in. Yeah, you're right about that. This is this was probably a huge. I think we made a mistake with Austin Simmonds Luke Altmeyer and Austin

Simmons. I think are two biggest omissions. Yeah, I wish I could go back in time and change my Bryce Underwood picked Austin Simmons to be honest, but. I live, I'll live with this. I think that I'm happy with my list. I think you scared me out of the SEC by pointing out that you know the grind and the defenses and I was like, I don't want to go too SEC heavy because I might

lose some of these guys. I scared myself. Austin Simmons thing. That's a that's a big mistake on my part. Yeah. So do you want to review ours before we get out of here? I'm going to go. Yeah, let's do it. For people listening in audio form, I got Club Nick Manning, Sellers, Mattier, Kevin Jennings, Drew Aller, Devin Dampier, Daman Williams, Bryce Underwood, and Brailen Braxton from Southern Miss.

I probably should have been keeping track more. I can send you the lists. Yes. Yes. Please send me mine because I can send you the lists. Yes, yes, please send me mine because I've been reacting so much. And that's the problem, like I didn't pick first. So every pick of mine was a reaction to one of yours, which is how I make mistakes.

Hi, River. Andy, I can read off your list for you real quick. Yes, thank you. You got DJ Ligway from Florida, Garrett Nussmeyer from LSU, Julian Sayen from Ohio State, Sam Levitt from Arizona State, Dante Moore from Oregon, Fernando Mendoza from Indiana, Sawyer Robertson from Baylor, Darian Mensah from Duke, Blake Horvath from Navy, and Diego Pavia from Van... I'm kicking your asses! You got more... I gambled more than you. I am kicking your asses. I know it.

Actually, I I I am. I am very worried about you gambling correctly or about River just we left too much on the table for River because River River is going to have Austin Simmons going to have CJ car. He's going to have Luke Altmeyer. I know this is you know what this is.

I play fantasy baseball. I don't know if you know that about me. And I'm in a league that's very expensive. You do something that involves a game of chance. Yeah skill. And money and gambling. Yeah, no. And.

The boring team wins every year. It's the team that has everybody hitting 275 with 20 home runs and 80 RB. It's not people that's gonna be Rivers team. It's not the people that have the sexy names. It's the people who have them. It's the most consistent team top to bottom that has players who show up every day and play well, you know, so the best the best question though is what will River take Joey Aguilar? Because his heart tells him to Yeah, he River take Joey Aguilar because his heart tells him to? Yeah, he might take Joey Aguilar, might take Nico, I don't know. He's not gonna take Nico, we know that. If he takes Nico, he can you know bet with his you know you know hedge his heart, you know. If he has a great year then he looks good and if he has a bad year then at least he

had a bad year. I don't know but that was was fun. I enjoyed going. I suspect especially our podcast listeners that there were there was lots of yelling at your radio in your car during the show. Oh, yeah. And we left a lot of really good players from from teams that should be very good off the board. And I the one that I really do regret is Austin Simmons that guy to taken his I remember looking at it before we went in saying make sure you The one that I really do regret is Austin Simmons. That guy should have taken. Me too. Cause I remember looking at it before we went in saying, make sure you take Austin Simmons.

Yeah. And I got lost in the sauce. Yeah. Let the games play. We're starting in a month, baby. We'll see how it goes. That's the thing. If anything, the fact that we did this and that river can pick a team that

probably can beat ours tells you how many fun quarterbacks there are in the country this year. Like, Hey river, you got that, that week one graphic, he's going to put up this list of week one games. I know I did this the other day. I know I read it off, but I want to do it again. This is it again. It excites me. It's it's so much fun and we're like we're five weeks away from football.

Four weeks away from week zero, right? Or a month away. Farm again, the greatest import in the in the history of imports. Yeah. Week one. I'm not going to go down the list as it's as it's written, I'm going to go down chronologically. So Georgia Tech, Colorado, I believe that's a, is that a Thursday game?

I think that's a Thursday game. I think that's a Thursday game. Auburn Baylor's a Friday game for sure. And then on Saturday, Texas, Ohio state, Alabama, Florida state, LSU Clemson on Tennessee and Syracuse on Sunday, Virginia tech in South Carolina on Sunday night, Notre Dame at Miami. Holy crap. Holy crap. So if we're going to quarterbacks Arch Manning versus Julian saying Ty Simpson, who we didn't pick river. insane. Ty Simpson, who he didn't pick, River. Ty Simpson. Now the curious thing with Ty Simpson is, does he wind up being the quarterback all year? Does Keelan Russell come in? But

Ty Simpson could put up huge numbers. So Ty Simpson versus Thomas Castellanos, Garrett Nesmire versus Kate Klobnik, CJ CJ Carr versus Carson Beck Joey Aguilar versus we think Steve Angeli maybe Ricky Collins Jackson Arnold versus Sawyer Robertson Haynes King get Haynes King Haynes King didn't have a very productive year last year but he missed time right he missed time yeah you run so much that that's a problem. That's possibly a problem. That's why I didn't take him. I went and looked at his numbers because I wanted to get him late and I looked at his numbers and they were they were not as good as I would have. So Haynes King against we think Caden Salter, we think. And then Kyron Drones versus Lenora Sellers and also want to go to Monday night. TCU and Josh Hoover against

Geo Lopez in North Carolina. And oh, by the way, North Carolina is coached by Bill Belichick. Holy crap, Bill Belichick is coaching in college football in the one the one thing that I want to tell River. Even though you're not drafting against anybody, still list them in order in

which you would want them. Because I want I don't just like. Right, you want his list to still reflect, like, the next, the best next 10, like, just because you can do it out of order doesn't mean you should. So, yeah, I'm excited. We'll break his list down on Tuesday. Yeah, well tomorrow's show, River will reveal his team,

and then you guys can decide whose team you think's gonna win, which I don't know. I knew last year I was winning. This year, I don't know that. I think this is going to be a lot of fun. I think we're going to know a month into the season who's winning. But yeah, I wanted to put up a good fight for you. And part of me wanted to just do the boring thing and just take Josh Hoover

1210 times. But I went with the exciting podcast list and we'll see what happens if I if I can go back in time, I would have taken Bryce off and put Austin Simmons on. But you know what? Who knows? We'll see what happens. I'm part of the Bryce Underwood sweepstakes, one of the most compelling storylines in the country. And I get to, you know to have a little skin in the game.

So I'm always up for that. This is going to be very exciting. So tomorrow's show, River reveals his team. We will preview Big Ten media days, which we will be at in Las Vegas. In fact, Ari and I will be in Vegas for tomorrow's show. And then we also have ACC Media Days running simultaneously. So you got Clemson, got North Carolina, got Louisville, which should be a better team that has an easier

schedule than last year. Got SMU. A lot to talk about this week. Going to be fun. We'll talk to you tomorrow.